Q3 2023 Profire Energy Inc Earnings Call

Good morning, everyone and thank you for participating in today's conference call to discuss profile and the juice quarterly operating and financial performance for the period ended September 30 plenty twenty-three.

I will now turn the call over to Steven Hooser Investor Relations to get the call started please go ahead.

Thank you operator with me on today's call is co CEO and CFO of profile energy, Ryan Obs and co CEO Cameron did yes.

Yesterday after the market closed the company filed its Form 10-Q.

D C and discussed the quarter's highlights in a press release has always both of those documents are available on the investors section of the company's web site transfer.

A transcript of this call posted in the coming days.

Before we begin today's call I would like to take a moment to read the company's safe Harbor statements.

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Capex investments.

M&A opportunities supply chain availability and the company's future financial performance.

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Readers should not place undue reliance on these forward looking statements I would like to write I would also like to remind everyone that this call is being recorded and will be available for replay through November 23rd 2023, starting later today.

It will be accessible via a link provided in yesterday's press release as well as the company's website at Www Dot profile energy Doug Col.

Following the remarks made by Mr Elliott and Tidball.

We will open up the call for your questions now I'd like to turn the call over to co CEO and CFO of coal fired energy Mr. Ryan.

Ryan.

Thank you Steven and welcome to all of you who are joining us on the call today.

We are pleased to report our fifth consecutive quarter of revenue in excess of $12 million and our best nine month revenue net income and EBITDA performance.

Our 21 year company history.

This quarters performance was driven through a combination of the ongoing strength of our core legacy business.

As well as solid results from our diversification efforts.

The legacy business continues to benefit from consistent Capex spend for E&P operators in response to steady and robust oil and natural gas prices.

Our diversification revenue covering critical energy infrastructure in new industries.

Just over 16% of total revenue in the quarter, which represents another best for profile here.

We are excited about the traction we're gaining in this space.

For the nine month year to date period, our total revenue is $43 8 million.

Total revenue for fiscal 2022 was $45 9 million.

We are on track to record the highest annual revenue in our company's history.

We believe our strong performance over the past 12 months has put us in a great position to drive further strategic growth in 2024 and beyond.

Our business continues to benefit from the overall demand for hydrocarbons.

The IEA is projecting a global oil demand increase of roughly 900000 barrels per day in 2024.

Opex forecast is more bullish anticipating daily demand to increase by more than $2 2 million barrel.

Currently there are nine liquefied natural gas projects under construction across North America that will double export capacity in the next five years, including five projects in the U S representing nearly 10 billion cubic feet of capacity.

We believe North America will have a large role to play over this horizon to help provide the feedstock of oil and natural gas to meet the world's energy demand.

North American producers are in the best position to supply these products in a clean safe and reliable manner to improve environmental conditions worldwide.

So long as the U S and Canadian governments don't block hinder or prevent these investments by North American producers.

This increased LNG demand will require significant capital spend by the oil and gas industry for many years to come.

[noise] profile stands to benefit greatly from these ongoing multiyear capex investments.

In recent weeks, many articles have come out covering the significant challenges facing the electric vehicle industry by both auto manufacturers and government organizations.

Key among these difficulties is that consumers remain hesitant regarding full adoption of electric vehicles due to concerns on pricing range limitations and lack of available charging stations.

The EIA recently projected that Evs will only represent one in five vehicles purchased by 2035 through 2015, and even under a scenario where oil prices could reach $190 a barrel in today's dollars Evs will still only represent roughly a third of vehicle sales.

Moreover, the charging stations used by these movies source their electricity largely from coal and natural gas power plants.

Increasing electricity demand will only increase the need for fossil fuel based energy production, which again is good for profile product demand.

Oil prices have mostly stayed north of $80 per barrel in recent months.

Current events in the middle East have not yet impacted supply, but a broader conflict in the region could have a meaningful impact on global oil and gas supply.

Any further restrictions on global supply will likely increase prices and increased pressure on north American production.

Overall, we remain very optimistic about profiles medium and long term prospects. We are on track to record the best full year topline revenue performance in company history.

Our strong financial position allows for additional investments and acquisition opportunities going forward as more focus is placed on efficiency and environmental initiatives.

With that let me turn my remarks to <unk> financial results for the third quarter of 2023.

During the third quarter, we recognized approximately $14 8 million in revenue our second largest quarterly revenue in company history compared to $14 4 million in the second quarter and $12 8 million in the prior year quarter.

The 16% year over year increase was primarily driven by ongoing customer demand pricing initiatives supply chain improvements and continued progress across our strategic diversification efforts.

Gross profit for the third quarter was $7 5 million compared to $7 4 million in the prior quarter and $6 1 million in the third quarter of 2022.

Gross margin was 54% of revenues compared to 51, 3% in the prior quarter and 47, 7% in the third quarter of 2022.

The sequential decrease is primarily related to product mix, while the year over year increase was the result of product mix greater fixed cost coverage from the higher revenue base price increases as well as typical fluctuations in inventory and warranty reserves.

Total operating expenses for the third quarter were approximately $4 9 million compared to $4 2 million in the second quarter and $4 million in the year ago quarter. The.

The second quarter of this year and third quarter of 2022. Each included the recognition of a $760000 employee retention tax credit available through the cares Act.

Excluding the credit operating expenses were roughly flat on a sequential basis and up 13% year over year.

The increase year over year is primarily due to ongoing inflation pressures on our business and head count growth to support increased business activity.

Net income for the third quarter was approximately $2 million or <unk> <unk> per diluted share. This compares to net income of $2 9 million or <unk> <unk> per diluted share in the second quarter of 2023, and net income of $1 2 million or <unk> <unk> per diluted share in the third quarter of last year.

Cash flow from operations in the third quarter was approximately 886000 compared to cash use of approximately $1 8 million in the prior year quarter.

Our inventory balance at the end of the quarter was approximately $13 5 million compared to $13 million at the end of the second quarter.

We continue to work with our suppliers to source the needed components to avoid potential shortages and shipment delays heading into 2024.

We ended the quarter was $17 4 million in cash and liquid investments and remained debt free.

We repurchased approximately 193000 shares of our stock in the quarter at an average price of $1 46 per share and have roughly $1 $7 million remaining for additional purchases under our current authorization.

I will now turn the call over to Cam to provide an overview of our business.

Thank you Ryan.

Our Q3 performance represented our top quarter for the last trailing 12 months in terms of topline revenue and as mentioned by Ryan ranks amongst our best results in company history.

Date, our 2023 fiscal year performance stands out as our best in five years.

The profile team delivers technology products and solutions to industries that are focused on lowering their GHT emissions, ensuring workplace safety and optimizing operations and efficiencies up.

Their thermal processes and appliances.

Our strategic pillars remain intact our.

Our customer centric team continues to focus on growing our traditional legacy upstream business, coupled with deliberate efforts to increase market share in the downstream utility space critical energy infrastructure, and various non oil and gas and industrial markets.

In Q3, we were able to achieve our strongest diversification results year to date is approximately 16% of our total topline revenue was achieved through diversified industries, including critical energy infrastructure, biogas, and landfill wastewater and construction and infrastructure.

For the fiscal year, we are trending closer towards meeting our 2023 goal of 10% of our revenue derived from our diversification focus.

We attribute this significant year over year progress to the unique abilities and proficiency of our team coupled with over 400 combined years of expertise as a leader in combustion and burner management technology.

As a whole this has enabled profile to enter new industries, leveraging our existing products and to develop and grow our robust pipeline of opportunities, which we believe will lead to continued growth.

Before we discuss some of the diversification highlights let's.

Let's review our traditional legacy business.

As expected, we continue to see significant consolidation in the energy industry.

A wave of high profile mergers and acquisitions demonstrate signs of a bullish energy sector.

Of note, we have witnessed a sharp increase in M&A activity in the Permian basin with over 25 transactions announced in 2023, so far as operators look to boost reserves and proven acreage.

We believe that this activity is positive for pro fire as the requirements for automation standardization and lowering the carbon intensity of each barrel produced will continue to be a focus.

This activity as well as the overall stability in commodity prices has not yet resulted in an increase in drilling and completion activity thus far.

However, we believe that it is a foreshadow of increased activity for the future.

In the third quarter, we continued to work with U S and Canadian oil majors and each of the major shale plays to support their initiatives related to emissions control and reduction and increased thermal and operational efficiency.

Our product solutions and technical support continue to earn new and repeat business from best in class operators, including EQT Chevron Conoco Civitas Continental Sto, Devon energy CNR rail synovus, and many others either directly or through our numerous valley.

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The worlds demand for energy is growing rapidly how this demand will be met depends on government policy technological advancement adoption and the price consuming consumers are willing enable to pay.

With expectations for the demand of useful energy predicted to increase by 50% between 2023 and 2050.

We reaffirmed that North American produced hydrocarbons have the potential to be the cleanest and most reliable and affordable means to meet this growth.

North American produced natural gas and LNG remains the lowest cost and quickest method to replacing inefficient global coal, which some estimate represents 40% of the world's cotwo emissions.

Although considered part of our legacy business, we continue to gain momentum and traction with natural gas utilities across North America as they focus on improving automation, increasing efficiency reliability and safety of legacy and new assets.

This is achieved through retrofit programs as well as specifying profile technology and solutions on new construction projects, which supports natural gas transmission infrastructure that enables our communities and businesses to operate with clean reliable and affordable energy.

Our customer base is supported by profile directly as well as through several trusted partners.

We continue to invest in growing our sales and support network to serve our existing and growing customer base.

As mentioned Q3 represented our strongest quarter of the year with respect to diversification revenue.

As part of our diversification strategy, we continued to grow and develop our customer base and critical energy infrastructure.

Space includes operators, such as Kinder Morgan DCP midstream MPLX Alpha gas Williams enterprise products, Tc energy and energy transfer partners.

We completed several projects in the quarter and continued to grow our pipeline and backlog as well as began the bidding process for projects expected for 2024.

Our direct end user relationships as well as support of specialized Oems who serve this market is paramount to our growth strategy and future targets in this space.

Turning to our diversification progress in non oil and gas and industrials. The third quarter represented our best quarter in 2023 in terms of revenue recognized new orders brought in as well as bid activity on new projects.

We remain committed to our strategy to take profile products and solutions to new industries, where our technology and expertise can be leveraged and provide value.

We are excited about the traction and growth we are seeing as well as the future opportunities we have in this space.

In the quarter, we completed projects related to landfill biogas renewable natural gas production water treatment agricultural biogas emissions destruction heat treating mining agricultural grain drying and biofuel production.

Revenue in the quarter was nearly all from repeat customers.

We continue to gain interest from Oems and other firms who are supporting renewable natural gas production projects.

In collaboration with landfill operators, they develop solutions to take landfill biogas and process it into pipeline quality RMG.

We believe this market will continue to grow and contribute to our overall diversification goals.

In the quarter, we received a purchase order to collaborate with our systems integrator and an innovator who is developing technology and an advanced manufacturing process that can convert coal into various high demand carbon based products, including activated carbon carbon fiber and hydrogen we.

We expect to deliver on this project in the next six months and are looking forward to the success of this innovative and green use of this natural resource.

We also received orders to support a specialized OEM, who is developing thermal equipment for use with a major provider and distributor of electricity currently our sales pipeline in support of power generation is the highest it has ever been and we expect to execute on the orders we have received over the next two quarters.

Our research and development process and associated investment remains critical to the future of profile are we.

We plan to continue developing new products to support our legacy in traditional markets as well as our diversification efforts. This will continue to follow our balanced approach to short mid and long term product development and research.

Before we turn to questions.

Brian and I. Thank you for your interest in and support of profile to all of our team members. Thank you for all you do to support our customers our shareholders and each other.

Operator would you please provide the appropriate instructions. So we can get the Q&A started.

Certainly we will now begin the question and answer session.

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The first question comes from Rob Brown from Lake Street Capital markets. Please go ahead.

Hi, good morning, good morning, Rob.

Hey, Rob Thanks for all the color on some of the projects Youre working on on the diversification efforts.

Could you give us an update on kind of the pipeline of projects.

How would you characterize that and how is it sort of setting up for next year.

In terms of quotes Youre doing an activity.

Great question, Kevin do you want to take that one.

Yeah, you bet as we mentioned in our remarks.

Our Q3 was our best quarter, so far for the year not only in terms of diversification revenue.

But the bidding of new projects.

New projects brought in that we've received sales order. So overall on the commentary on how the pipeline slash backlog looks never been stronger for profile in terms of our diversification business.

These are as we've talked about previously on previous calls.

They are longer term projects. They take more time from an engineering perspective from the approval of drawings designs controls schematics back and forth between either the end user or many times. There is an OEM or a systems integrator in the middle of the project that we're working with them and the end user.

So they take a longer time, but Q3 was very strong we look at the overall pipeline and the estimate and bid activity that we have out there and it's what gives us a lot of optimism and confidence for the future that we're making great grounds in these diversification diversified spaces. So overall.

All very healthy.

Okay, great. Thank you and then.

About really good energy demand environment.

Seeing that continue.

How how do you sort of is it improvements in.

Drilling activity that you're seeing kind of continue or or what are you hearing from customers in terms of their capex needs for next year, just some sort of.

Color on how sustainable this debate environment.

Well I'll continue on with it and then Brian will have comments.

As we always in the fourth quarter, we work with are E&ps, the oil and gas majors to kind of come up with what is what is your drill program look like for next year. What are you going to do for retrofits. So that's in progress and it's something we work towards really through the middle of December.

Obviously, that's all intertwined with the holiday season, as well as on depending on some years.

Getting a lot of spend in and some companies not getting their spending in all kind of balances, but overall when we look at just the overall demand for energy, we don't see a decreasing we don't see renewables being able to.

Ouster kick out this wonderful natural resources of hydrocarbons that we have for many years in fact, we look even out into 2015 will the world use less oil.

Probably will it be dramatic.

We think probably not and on the natural gas side, we think it could be as much as double of what we use today.

And so all of those things are really good for profile the gas business profile, we never really break it out between oil and gas because there's so much overlap very challenging for us, but more and more we're seeing the applications. We're doing they're all about.

Natural gas and this is a great thing for profile as we see it growing so we will we will continue to work with our customers as we do every year, we do it quarterly and then we do it annually as well as to try to figure out what we're going to need to have them on the shelf of product.

Well, our service needs need to be for our customers and as well as preparing our partners for those four.

That demand so that's yet to be seen it's not completed but we'll continue to work on it throughout the rest of the quarter here.

Yeah, and I'll, just add a little bit there.

We talked in our prepared remarks, there's a lot happening in the micro environment or macro environment.

For the longer term prospects.

Even those who are forecasting peak oil in 2030 or 2035.

Interesting thing is if you look at their charts beyond that it only slightly decreases through 2050.

So we certainly don't think that its peak oil in that short horizon of 2030 or 2035, but even then it's as Cam mentioned very flat steady environment. After that it's not like it drops off of a cliff.

So we certainly see good times for oil and gas for quite a while.

When you look at the shorter horizons within our quarters, we think that there will be some fluctuations potentially up and down on a quarterly basis because of short term macro environment things that will happen from quarter to quarter, but year over year, we continue to see good prospects for profile.

Good strength for our profile right now we're still in that interesting environment, where despite steady strong oil prices.

Rig count really has gone down for the last 12 months to 15 months.

We think it's kind of stabilizing at the moment and likely for this next year to either remain flat or will probably go up just to maintain production. We think it's going to have to go.

So oil is not responding necessarily like it would have five or six years ago. At these price levels. We're drilling with just going Crazy every time oil would go up drilling would go up in response, we're not necessarily seeing that we're seeing much more discipline from the e&ps here in North America and we.

Think that thats likely to continue even though they are we'll continue to invest.

In the coming years.

Okay. Thank you I'll turn it over.

Thanks, Rob.

The next question comes from James Mccanless from Dawson James. Please go ahead.

Thank you and good morning, guys.

Good morning.

So the bullishness that you have on the natural gas production.

Production and demand.

I'm trying to understand how that effects.

Your.

Let me, let me put it differently I'm trying to understand how you position yourselves in order to take advantage of that do you have to build up new offices in different geographies do you have to.

Come up with different <unk>.

Product designs do you.

Is there a difference in that.

And the take rate of your burner management systems with gas versus oil so I'm just trying to understand.

The impact on your business and how you position yourselves in order to benefit from that.

From from that increased demand that youre looking at.

Yes, great question.

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But overall, we've talked a lot about the growth in the demand for liquefied natural gas.

And those plants are being built.

Around the U S and even globally.

And they're going to require a lot of natural gas fee to come to those we think the U S is very well positioned to be able to supply that and even the supply a large portion of what the world is going to need and to your question. The specifics how does that benefit profile. Our systems are used equally on natural gas wells.

As much as on oil.

And even in certain geographies have a larger uptake of the number of our systems per well and infrastructure in <unk>.

And the infrastructure is also a key part of that as they build out more pipelines to supply. These LNG facilities, those named heaters in various stages and processes as well.

The infrastructure plus the ongoing well supply and demand is all where our products are utilized we also see.

We see some opportunity to bring additional product to market in that type of environment and to continue to support that as well or profile.

Kim do you want to add anything.

Yes.

I guess add to one of your questions, we don't really need to add new products per se except for of course the evolution.

As we update controllers and things like that that being said, we do look at new products that we could either build ourselves or.

Obtained through acquisition that we think would be of value to the natural gas markets.

The great thing about natural gas production globally really is that one is the natural gas well and if it's a shale well, which most of it comes from the decline curves on shell.

They happen or they are getting a little better yes, but overall the decline in there for the output of those wells decreases which drives the need for more drilling completion more heaters as Bryan talked about as we get into the spaces where.

We feed these LNG terminals, we feel that whole feedstock youre going to need more natural gas if you need more electricity youre going to need more natural gas and natural gas ratio to heaters.

Overall for example in the northeast of the United States and some shale plays in Canada. The BMS two well ratio is higher than say that a traditional conventional or even shale oil wells in places like the Permian that being said, we know that the Permian is getting.

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And the term gas year.

We use and the industry is getting more and more gas is going to come out of the Permian.

And so we look for opportunities where how can profile spend.

Exposure in the permits strong territory for us, but we think that it can be even stronger for us so that might be a place that we look for whether it's adding a small or a larger presence more product offerings specialize to that area.

Kind of looking at all the things above, but overall kind of Ryan mentioned.

That gas that feedstock that we're going to need for the future for energy.

North America has the best opportunity to fill those needs and we're positioned well without a lot of expansion to capitalize on it.

Okay. Thank you that's helpful and Brian I know you talked about the working capital.

Early in the call, but I'm, just I'm still struggling with.

With what's going on here is it.

Is it something that we should expect for there to be.

I'm going to call it permanent or semi permanent.

Levels of inventories.

That are higher than what we've seen pre COVID-19 is that just I should just get used to it.

Yes, good question.

Inventory is something that I think we struggled with at times as well and certainly the pre Covid post Covid has had an impact on our business and I think many other businesses to were.

Gone are the days of just in time inventory and.

We were even in the days of just in time inventory, we have we're always accused of having too much inventory.

We certainly don't believe that we have too much inventory now.

Now nor did we backend of pre Covid days, either but with the supply chain challenges the uncertainty economic and political.

That we find ourselves in the landscape these days globally.

We probably are going to carry higher levels of inventory. We are also still in a period of transition from our older legacy system, the 'twenty, 102% to 2200.

And still waiting on full stabilization of the supply chain for that transition. So we have built more inventory through 2200, <unk> got more of it on on hand.

We're still we're getting close.

We're doing better in the fact that that supply chain for the 2200 seems to be stabilizing more.

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Quality of the product coming in for that system.

Which has allowed us to build.

Product and get more product on the shelf and now we can start to transition customers over to that product. The key challenge that we have kind of in our business, which maybe is unique to us a little bit is.

It's not good for us to constantly switch, which system, we're selling to an individual customer they don't want us to sell.

A bunch of 'twenty 200 for them. This month in the next month, so a bunch of 'twenty, one hundreds to them they want to be able to shift to the newer product when they can continue to get that product. So that's part of that transition for us where we're building the quantities on hand.

And we're firming up the supply chain and having enough confidence that through 2024, we will be able to continue to produce that product reliably and have enough of it that we can start to fully transition customers over so I think thats, probably the biggest thing that we're seeing right now as to why inventory Hasnt just.

Dropped back down to say, the $9 million or $10 million that we had pre COVID-19.

So that's going to take a little while longer but like I said, we are seeing sizable improvements in that <unk>.

<unk> thousand 200 supply chain environment, and we are looking forward to through Q1, and even throughout 2024 of being able to transition more customers over to that and decrease the quantities of the 'twenty 100.

That are being produced again, we still have to.

See how the supply chain handles that in what other.

Curve balls, we may get in that timeframe, but thats one of the bigger things and as we do that I'm optimistic that we can bring the inventory levels back down.

Lower than than where they are today.

But hopefully if we continue to see growth in activity and demand.

We may have to still have higher these levels of inventory, but that as a percentage of total revenue on an annual basis. It would hopefully come down a little bit.

Okay, great. Thanks, a lot guys. That's it for me.

Thanks, Tim.

There are no further questions in the queue.

I'd like to hand, the call back to management for closing remarks.

Thanks, everyone for joining us on our call today and thank you for all your continued support as always we're available for any discussions or questions. You may have also to mention we will be participating at three part advisors ideas conference ideas conference in Dallas next week on November <unk>.

And look forward to seeing many of you there.

Thank you and have great day.

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