Q3 2023 Cardlytics Inc Earnings Call
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Nick Linton, Chief legal and privacy Officer, Nick Please go ahead.
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Good evening and welcome to the <unk> third quarter 2023 financial results call before we begin let me remind everyone that today's discussion will contain forward looking statements based on our current assumptions expectations and beliefs, including expectations about our future.
<unk> financial performance and results, including for the fourth quarter and full year 2023.
Adding new partners to the network, our partner's transition when you add server and user experience the growth of triple improvement to our operations our platform in our UK.
International expansion, but bridge earn out payments and our liquidity.
For a discussion of the specific risk factors that could cause our actual results could differ materially from today's discussion. Please refer to the risk factors section of the Companys 10-Q for the quarter ended September 32023, which has been filed with the SEC.
Also during this call we will discuss non-GAAP measures of our performance.
GAAP financial reconciliations and supplemental financial information are provided in the press release issued today and the eight.
That had been filed with the SEC.
Today's call is available via webcast and a replay will be available for one week.
You can find the information I've just described in the Investor Relations section of the <unk> website.
Please note that a supplemental presentation to our third quarter results has also been posted on our Investor Relations website.
Joining us on the call today is our CEO Karim <unk> and our CFO electric DCNR <unk> following their prepared remarks, we'll open the call to your questions with that said, let me turn the call over to Craig.
Good evening and thank you for joining our Q3 2023 earnings call.
To start the call I'd like.
To provide some context to this quarter.
I've spent a year in the business.
When I arrived last year.
Finances needed to improve.
Before I started our Q2 2022, adjusted EBITDA annual run rate was worse than negative $55 million.
And adding to the difficulty of teams we're facing.
My immediate priority was to right size, our cost structure and reinvest in building the foundations of our business.
Starting with our financial institution relationships.
While we have much left to accomplish I am proud of the work our teams have done so far.
Onshore foundations of our business is stronger.
In our banking relationships are in a much better place.
We cannot think longer term about our growth prospects.
Our results this quarter match this sentiment.
We were in line with guidance on our top line metrics.
And better than expected on our profitability metrics.
Adjusted contribution grew 22% year over year.
Adjusted EBITDA was positive for the first time in 2023 of $3 9 million.
We also had positive operating cash flow for the second straight quarter.
Alexis will provide more details later on on our full financial results.
Our solid financial performance this quarter points back to underlying value proposition.
For example, gas grocery and convenience grew more than 65% this quarter.
We saw success, because we help brands target shoppers, who by competing Brian.
We believe a strong ROI for them, which helps us succeed in this category.
Another vertical that saw success with travel entertainment.
Which grew more than 20% in the quarter year over year.
While consumer spending travel entertainment has softened in the back half of the year.
Clients are still leaning into budget.
Our platform helps them reward loyalty and acquire new customers, particularly in environments, where spending is volatile.
These positive results were balanced by subpar performance in restaurant and retail.
We believe these verticals 10 and should be significant contributors to our business.
We are aiming to drive high growth moving forward by reinvesting in our teams in these categories.
As we saw with our vertical performance in the quarter underlying fundamentals were mixed.
Unique consumers activating offers decreased 7% year over year in Q3, driven by the loss of the previously mentioned large restaurant Park.
That said you need customers with a redemption or spend per serve in the quarter. So a 13% increase which indicates we're serving relevant and engaging offers to consumers.
There will be quarter to quarter variation in Activations, we expect unique customers activating to increase over time as we continue to evolve our platform.
As we mentioned last quarter, our expectation was to sign one new bank partner by the end of 2023.
We are excited to announce that our UK team signed Monzo one of the fastest growing banks in the UK.
We can't wait to launch in 2024 to help desk their customers save money on the brands that they love.
And the teams on stopping there.
<unk> pipeline remains strong and we believe we will sign at least one more major bank partner in the U S. Over the next few months.
Let's move to our strategic initiatives.
In the quarter, we spend a considerable amount of time on strategy planning.
What I expect an investor day at a later date.
I do want to provide initial color on how I see our strategy evolving over the next four years.
Our vision for the future of <unk> is aligned around four strategic pillars.
One strengthening our core product by driving user engagement and building at demand supply and marketplace liquidity, while simultaneously expanding the coal business globally outside of the U K.
Two scaling bridge and report and connecting it with the core covered to unlock each unique data and measurement ecosystem.
Three broadening our reach to non advised to diversify supply and access the broader merchant ecosystem. This is a large growth vector for our business, but will require further exploration in the new year.
And last but also most importantly.
Embedding insights into everything we do internally and externally to become the most trusted commerce partner.
As a data company.
Build that credibility to reinforce our core and tap into new revenue stream.
I am excited about the future and potential of catalytic and can't wait to discuss the detailed initiatives behind that strategy with all of you.
And while I could spend most of the call discussing our strategic plan I do want to move to our near term initiatives that are critical to realizing many elements of this vision.
So first.
Let's discuss the key initiatives for our bank partners and advertisers.
On the bank from like last quarter, all major U S banks have data in AWS and most have systems in AWS.
In the quarter.
Large UK bank completed the immigration moving us closer to a 100% completion.
We still expect nearly all our major banks to migrate to AWS and the new user experience by the middle of 2024.
We continue to have constructive conversations with our partners and we want to drive to full adoption as soon as possible.
One bank focused area that saw significant progress with adoption of our AD decisioning engine or a D.
You recall.
It drives higher monetization and offer relevancy for the business through improved targeting.
This quarter two of our largest banks fully adopted.
We're excited about the increases in overall engagement, we see with Eddie and can't wait for all of our banks to adopt these new products.
We continue to scale, our advertising product to provide our partners and advertisers new ways to drive engagement and return on Ad spend.
Multi tier offers which provide variable incentives based on objective.
We're seeing rapid adoption and have shown two times better performance than our baseline offering into some campaign.
For example, a customer came to us with announced to increase premium membership purchases.
Historically this customer so split 50% premium membership to 50% basic membership.
Our multi tier offers we're able to drive consumers to an 80% premium membership split providing additional value for its advertisers and its consumers.
We are also continuing to make improvements to our operation.
Several key items were completed in the quarter that we expect to significantly improve our execution, including transitioning legacy processes to our data lake and facilitating new interfaces for Onboarding, new publishers such as Monzo.
We are also continuing to make improvements to our operations.
Key items were completed in the quarter that we expect to significantly improve execution, including transitioning legacy processes to our data lake and facilitating new interfaces for on boarding new publishers, such as long ago.
We've also made process improvements that have significantly reduced the time to onboard a merchant from two weeks to just two days.
Moving to bridge and repo.
So a customer data platform or CDP product, we re signed a national retailer to a large long term contract. This is a great win for us and evidenced that the CDP product can deliver the data enrichment that larger retailers need.
Earlier this quarter, we launched <unk>, our retail media networks.
To remind you we believe repo, we provide CPG brand flexibility in building sophisticated audiences.
Seamless access to a national footprint and user friendly tools that empower them to gain valuable insights drive substantial incremental sales and accurately measure the impact of their campaigns.
While the Lumpiness, we expected in growth for the platform is method rising we are making solid progress in transforming the business.
We have 33 million profiles Lagaan report and the initial feedback is strong.
We also recently hired a chief revenue officer for the business to help increase our growth.
We expect to announce some big wins in the coming quarters, and we see strong potential for repo to scale in 2024 and beyond.
Let's move to the global business, while Monzo is the Big news I do have another important update.
Please join me in welcoming in Carrington, who will serve in a newly created general manager of international role.
Ian help build several billion dollars global businesses from scratch at Google and has over 25 years of experience in global markets.
Our catalytic he will be charged with leading our global expansion and strategic business development.
We're extremely excited to have attracted him to cosmetics and I look forward to providing more updates around our global business plans in the near future.
Moving to our outlook on the surface consumers spend looks solid this quarter with a five 6% increase year over year, largely driven by gas prices.
But despite this persistent spending inflation is still higher than normal and some of our financial institutions partners highlighted elevated interest rates lower deposit and higher credit card charge offs as negative indicators.
In our conversations with advertisers, we are seeing elevated cushions around commitments and the size of advertising budgets given trends that they are seeing in Q4.
It appears that some of the moderate optimism in Q2 had solid ground to renewed recessionary concerns.
The economic volatility will impact our Q4 billings and revenue.
Adjusted EBITDA should still be positive in Q4.
We can also reached positive adjusted EBITDA for the full year.
Execute on our plan.
We remain highly focused on our cash flow and profitability as we navigate this choppy environment.
The trajectory of our adjusted EBITDA and operating cash flow. Since Q1 of 2022 is reflective of the incredible effort and dedication from our team to rightsize, our business and I think.
<unk> predictor of our future success.
And like we've discussed there are many exciting developments coming over the next few quarters.
We'll drive growth for us in the coming years.
By the end of 2024.
We expect our platform to look completely different with new large bank partners.
A broader and deeper data set.
More sophisticated audience targeting.
Better analytics and reporting and a variety of AD formats that will drive increased engagements.
We are confident in our strategy for the next four years and our belief in our long term growth prospect.
<unk> never been stronger.
Now I will turn it over to Alex to discuss our financial results.
Thank you Corinne.
I'm thrilled to be addressing all of you today on my first earnings call.
I spent my first 80 days as CFO meeting the teams evaluating next steps for our capital structure and beginning to optimize our finance processes and systems.
I also helped lead the four year strategic planning process that Carl mentioned.
He has room to expand our addressable market and diversify our revenue streams, while maintaining our focus on profitability and cash flow to strengthen our balance sheet.
I am excited to be joining us at this time and our trajectory.
We're positioned to be the leader in providing trusted intelligent business insights and there are a few other platforms that have the level of data and reach that we do.
This gives us the right to compete with any firm in our space and then the post cookie landscape the trends align with our strengths.
In the near term I have three major priorities.
First driving incremental revenue through pricing improvements and monetization of our assets, which will ultimately allow us to deliver more insights to our partners.
Second continuing to embrace automation and data analytics across the organization to allow us to make more informed decisions more quickly and more nimbly.
Third and most importantly, being hyper focused on profitability and improving our balance sheet and capital structure.
This will allow us to deliver our goals and our promise to investors.
Now, let's move to our results and guidance.
As Gary mentioned, we delivered solid third quarter results with billings revenue and adjusted contribution consistent with our Q3 guidance and adjusted EBITDA exceeding our Q3 guidance.
We had our second consecutive quarter of positive operating cash flow at $1 2 million and our first quarter in 2023 as positive adjusted EBITDA of $3 9 million.
We are showing sequential improvements and momentum on profitability.
My comments will be year over year comparisons for the third quarter unless I state otherwise.
Billings increased 5% to $116 4 million, primarily due to sales to new advertisers.
Revenue increased 9% to 79 million, primarily due to a decrease in consumer incentives as a result of changes in our mix of financial institutions and pricing.
Our top five customers accounted for 22% of revenue this quarter compared to 19% last year.
Adjusted contribution increased 22% to $42 9 million.
Geographically U S revenue increased 10%.
For our top advertisers across both years revenue increased 30%.
These increases were driven by higher brand spend and pricing improvements.
UK revenue decreased 12% due mainly to the loss of a major bank partner last year.
For the U K. This is a sequential improvement over Q2, which we expect to continue in the next several quarters you can see additional supply from signing Monzo and from auto enrollment launching with another large bank partner set to begin in the next several months.
For bridge revenue increased 10% driven by contract expansion of existing clients.
As Karim said, we launched Triple in August and have added 33 million profiles to our database with a line of sight to adding additional profiles in the near term, which enables us to scale and drive network effects.
Adjusted contribution grew 22% with a margin calculated often revenue of 54% compared to 48% one year ago.
We are seeing the benefits of our partner share of renegotiation with Jpmorgan chase as well as product improvements.
Adjusted EBITDA exceeded the high end of guidance and was positive for the first time in 2023 at $3 $9 million, which is $16 7 million better than Q3 of 2022.
Bridge was profitable for the second quarter in a row.
Operating cash flow was $1 2 million and positive for the second consecutive quarter.
While operating expenses, excluding stock based compensation came in lower than expected at $38 9 million.
We still expect a run rate to be in the low $40 million range per quarter.
Our focus is on improving our profitability and cash flow and the expectation moving forward is to be operating cash flow positive and adjusted EBITDA positive on an annual basis in 2024.
On the contingent consideration for the second anniversary earn out payment related to our acquisition of bridge we.
We continue to believe the payment and not T zero dollars.
However, Srs the group representing the former branch shareholders submitted a notice in Q3 objecting to our calculations.
We continue to believe our calculations are correct and are fully prepared to defend our position is zero dollars.
On the balance sheet, we ended Q3 with $90 $1 million in cash and cash equivalents and we had $4 million of unused available borrowings under our line of credit.
We still believe that our available liquidity is sufficient to support our long term plans.
However capital structure is top of mind for me and we plan to address our upcoming debt maturities on an appropriate timeline.
Before I turn to guidance I want to note that we changed the definition on how we report our MAA is to reflect unique users within each bank, regardless of the number of cards or accounts that they had at that bank.
We believe this change is a more accurate view of our reach and monetization ability.
Under the new definition and May use were $162 5 million an increase of 4%.
Also based on this new definition <unk> during Q3 was <unk> 49, compared to <unk> 47 last year.
Now turning to Q4 guidance.
For most of the year, we have discussed the macro trends and dynamics that are causing uncertainty and mixed results in the advertising market.
Our advertisers have shown renewed caution around budgets. However.
We expect a strong adjusted EBITDA results given the work we've done on our cost structure.
With that in mind for Q4, we expect.
Billings of between 122 and $133 million.
Revenue of between $80 million to $90 million.
Adjusted contribution of between 44 and $50 million.
And adjusted EBITDA between positive $4 million and positive $8 million.
Billings are primarily driven by growth in travel and continued success in our everyday spend categories.
This growth is partially offset by weakness in restaurant and retail.
Despite the mix trends, we are seeing our largest clients spend more with us.
Advertisers spending more than $1 million per year are up 15%.
For example, we closed the deal in October with one of the largest retailers in the United States that should push them to over eight figures in billings in 2023 and around 20 times their spend from 2022.
This is a solid demonstration of how we can grow budgets with our existing clients as they get comfortable with the value proposition of our platform, particularly around our ability to drive incremental loyalty spend.
And in most years prior to 2022, we saw unplanned holiday budgets materialize in the fourth quarter.
We have not seen the budget and our forecast so they could provide additional upside given the large number of days between Thanksgiving and Christmas This year.
While Q4 and full year billings growth is mixed we are on track for a second consecutive quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA.
The midpoint of our Q4 adjusted EBITDA guidance implies we'll be close to breakeven for the full year 2023.
Our annual adjusted EBITDA can be over $40 million better than 2022.
These are incredible achievements by the teams.
Like <unk> said, we are bullish on the long term we've added more supply in the U K, we expect to sign and other bank partner in our core business.
And nearly all of our banks should be on our new system by the middle of 2024.
We are adding profiles to the bridge retail media network and revenue should follow as we continue to scale the business.
We have identified our strategic path and our teams are hard at work on turning these initiatives into real growth.
While we expect some lumpiness given the seasonality of our business.
On a path to sustained positive operating cash flow and positive adjusted EBITDA on an annual basis.
And with that I will turn it back over to Karim.
As you know I am extremely happy with the progress we've made on our financial structure.
The trajectory of our profitability has dramatically improved run rates in Q2 of 2022.
We are gathering speed with each passing quarter.
Our platform is starting to look different and the collective improvements, we're making to our product and operations.
Exceeding our base from prior years.
And we came back this up with recent feedback from our banks, who have told US we are moving at a much greater pace than in prior years of.
Our dedication to productivity the ship financial health and strategic growth is setting us on a promising course and I'm looking forward to the future.
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Your first question comes from the line of Kyle Peterson from Needham Kyle. Please go ahead.
Great. Thanks.
Thanks.
Good afternoon guys.
Wanted to start off on the outlook chicken billings and revenue.
I guess a lot of the commentary sounds pretty positive in terms of feedback you guys are getting from one of your larger clients, but I guess the numbers looked a little light. So I just wanted to see what is driving that is this more of a.
Consumer spending headwind kind of the the other side of the funnel or is this just your broader.
Especially with some clients that maybe arent some of the larger advertisers or is there something else at play here.
Thanks Kai for the question.
Just to step back first.
As you know kind of our priority has been to put this company back on the right financial footing.
Obviously at the same time rebuilding many parts of our operations.
We've demonstrated that we've made very large progress.
Going from a run rate of close to $55 million in EBITDA losses to a breakeven situation.
So what's really critical here is that we now believe that we can run the company profitably on a much lower cost base.
This will allow to us to concentrate on growing our revenues going forward, but going back to sort of the gist of your question. Let's go to our revenue guidance is lower than we had hoped for for a couple of reasons.
One there are macro factors are at play.
And some of that on the call we're seeing that inflation is still high.
Interest rates are also and we definitely see some points of weakening consumer demand and signals are pointing to that and obviously there is a lot of additional feedback that you're hearing in the market with regards to <unk>.
We can indeed.
<unk> signals.
We're also seeing some weakness in some of the sectors.
We are addressing internally there is definitely an opportunity for us to do better.
Yeah.
So we are driving in some of our teams given that we've seen in consistency and delivery between some high growth sectors and some much lower and declining sectors of this definitely work that we wanted to do it internally.
And then I would say there's also.
A few areas that.
We wanted to be cautious around in.
In the guidance, we provided but that could provide additional.
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The longer than normal holiday sales cycle. This year could potentially help us and we're still hoping that there will be unplanned budget that new call. At this time of the year that we could have last minute. So overall.
We are very positive about the future we are cautious about Q4, but we're very positive about the future.
Future, we see and a positive EBITDA for Q4, and possibly for the whole year as we said we.
We see that some categories are growing very well.
And that we're continuing to grow large accounts that are spending a lot more with us we want to emulate that more consistently across the business.
We see that we are winning most supply and.
And we see that new AD formats, and AD Tech and <unk>.
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We'll soon be at scale and will help us continue to improve our monetization potential so that definitely not where we wanted to be in Q4, but some very good.
So outlook for us longer term.
Got it.
It's helpful. And then maybe if I could follow up on some of the newer products.
It seems like there is some.
Traction there I guess.
Metrics hearing you might be able to share or whether it's qualitative or quantitative.
On some of the adoption of these products are clients that are using these are some of these new logo wins that are interested in knees or is this expansion with existing.
Clients or is there some pure substitution happier clients, they're kind of at all.
All of the above.
Yes, I mean, I think there's two parts to your question. The first one is that.
The adoption of our tech at scale.
As a.
A great benefit for us longer term so.
In the call I mentioned that.
He drives high amortization and offer a relevancy for the business. So that we can improve targeting.
Now that we have to.
Our largest bank that have fully adopted AE.
We can see that there will be further benefits for us going forward.
And then.
Certainly the adoption of new product features like multi offers which I also talked about in the call definitely enables us to have different discussions with clients and bring on new clients as well to the ecosystem.
And I have been talking over the last few quarters of our new pricing models, we trialing some of these now.
And obviously, there's no numbers that we want to share yet until some of these things at scale.
But there are many elements of our.
Our core offering where we really see potential growth going forward.
Got it.
That makes sense and it's helpful and maybe if I could just squeeze in one.
One more modeling question.
Nice to see the the adjusted contribution margin move up nicely in the third quarter in the <unk> guide kind of implies that seems like it's going to continue.
Is there any mix.
With whether it's types of offers or anything in the pipeline or is this kind of 54 ish percent run rate for just contribution is that a good run rate.
To use moving forward in our models.
Hi, This is Alexis I can take this one.
The benefit Youre seeing in adjusted contribution is primarily due to the renegotiation of the major bank contract as well as a small mix shift from our financial institutions. So we do have different agreements with each one which does drive some of the changes there.
So seeing that impact in revenue.
Just a partner mix and as I said on that on the call also improvements in pricing. So I do think that Q3 is a more normalized state going forward.
That would be a good thing to continue.
Got it that makes sense, that's very helpful. Thanks, guys.
One moment for your next question.
The next question comes from the line of Jason Cryo from Craig Hallum. Jason. Please go ahead.
Terrific. Thank you.
I'm just wondering if you can talk about.
You indicated things are getting a little bit less stable as we get into Q4. What are you hearing from advertisers are you seeing campaigns get paused or you're seeing those get terminated or are you getting any transparency around.
Things are being paused in the short term but.
Some indications that those may come online at some point in the future just trying to get some more detail there.
Yeah. Thanks, what are we seeing is that there is no uniformity across the various verticals.
Definitely a number of verticals, where we're seeing very strong growth as we've mentioned on the call as well.
Some of our everyday spend categories like grocery gas and convenience.
Growing very very strongly year on year.
Travel and entertainment also is doing well.
We are definitely seeing that in other industries like retail and restaurants for instance, there's a.
A lot more caution in some of the budgets that you would see normally at this time of the year already come up particularly in retail.
A lot softer than we expected.
Some of that is definitely driven by <unk>.
Caution around the economy and the ability for consumers to spend.
We know that there is definitely.
A lot of a lot of issues around this period for many retailers as consumers get further into debt.
But but there's also things that we're looking at ourselves because we.
We definitely want to drive more consistency in how we are driving the business across all of our protocols and we think we have opportunities to ourselves to improve the performance of our business.
So, yes that does that mean.
So your question please.
That's very helpful. Thank you.
I also just wanted to see if we can step back and talk a little bit about what you view as the market opportunity for rental and then.
The go to market for you guys on if you expect to do a lot of that independently or if theres partnerships, you're looking to pursue to kind of strengthen that Arab broaden that go to market approach.
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So as a reminder, we report already provides a single point of access to Anonymised shopper profiles, which were enriched with SKU level data.
So advertisers that are using ripple will have an ability.
Club transparent shopper that he thought that they can use to drive additional spend and a better shopping experience for consumers.
We expect that there's going to be choppiness in how bridge and repo scale.
Revenue businesses and obviously, we are in very early stages of talking to many of our customers there but.
And I would say as well so the timelines for getting customers, who joined the repo network.
Longer than our than our core product as well, but having said that we are thrilled with the progress we're making we're getting.
Sort of positive feedback from the discussions we're having with both retailers and CPG brands, we have promising pilots in progress and we have a number of discussions with large clients that are going well.
And on top of that we've just hired a new CIO for bridge.
Who will help us scale, the bridge and repo business and we expect that to contribute meaningfully in 2024. So we're very excited about the prospects.
But expect some choppiness as we build that business.
Thank you last one for me I wanted to just maybe double click on the multi tier offers which sounds like a really interesting opportunity. What is the gating factor did that growing more rapidly is there like do you need more banks on the AE or the user experience or is it just take more time to get advertise.
On there.
Yes, it depends on sort of the.
The goals that advertisers have and their ability to have differentiated type pricing or.
So our offering for their customers. So multi tier alpha is going to be a very successful product for us that's going to be relevant for many of our customers, but not for all of our customers. We suddenly having multi a number of discussions about multi offers.
Right now and we are planning to scale it as fast as we can.
One of the things that I would mention though is that.
Having.
More of these type of products to sell also opens up discussion for the core product.
So as you have more product to sell and can have new discussion the other dozens of them you'll see them.
Seeing that maybe multi G offerings in a relevant for them right now or even in the future, but they end up spending on sort of the normal rewards offers that we have so it's relevant in many different areas. So.
As we have these products at scale.
And again I appreciate you're all asking for numbers, but we want to see them at scale. So that we can provide more meaningful data with regards to the impact that they're having on our network.
And we certainly plan to do that in the future.
Got it alright, thanks, great. Thanks, everyone.
Thank you Jason.
Thank you at this time I would now like to turn it back over to the speaker for any further comments so back to you Karen.
Thank you very much for the show.
That brings the call to a close.
And we remain committed to positioning the business for future success.
Thank you for your continued support and I look forward to speaking to you all soon.
Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program you may now disconnect.
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