Q2 2024 S&W Seed Co Earnings Call

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Robert Bloom: All right. Thank you all for joining us today to discuss S&W Seed Company's second quarter fiscal year 2024 financial results for the quarter ended December 31, 2023. With us on the call representing the company today is Mark Herman, the company's Chief Executive Officer, and Vanessa Bowman, the company's Chief Financial Officer. For those that didn't see, Vanessa has joined S&W in a full-time capacity, effective February 12th, having previously served as Interim Chief Financial Officer and Corporate Secretary since May 2023.

Alright. Thank you all for joining us today to discuss S. W seed companies second quarter fiscal year 2020 for financial results for the quarter ended December 31st 2023.

With us on the call representing the company today is Mark Harmon Company's Chief Executive Officer, and Vanessa Bowman, the company's Chief Financial Officer for.

For those that didn't see Vanessa has joined us and W. And a full time capacity effective February 12th having previously served as interim Chief Financial Officer, and corporate Secretary since May 2023.

Robert Bloom: At the conclusion of today's prepared remarks, we will open the call for a question and answer session. Before we begin with prepared remarks, please note that statements made by the management team of S&W Seed Company during the course of this conference call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 as amended and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 as amended, and such forward-looking statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements describe future expectations, plans, results, or strategies and are generally preceded by words such as may, future, planned or planned, will or should, expected anticipates, draft, eventually, or projected.

At the conclusion of today's prepared remarks, we will open the call for a question and answer session. Before we begin with prepared remarks. Please note that statements made by the management team are vast and W. Seed company. During the course of this conference call may contain forward looking statements within the meaning of section 27 eight of the Securities Act of 19th.

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Forward looking statements describe future expectations plans results or strategies and are generally preceded by words, such as may future planned or planned will or should expected anticipates draft eventually or projected listeners are cautioned that such statements are subject to a multitude of risks and uncertainties.

Robert Bloom: Listeners are cautioned that such statements are subject to a multitude of risks and uncertainties that could cause future circumstances, events, or results to differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements, including the risk that actual results may differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements as a result of various factors and other risks identified in the company's 10-K for the fiscal year ended June 30, 2023, and other filings subsequently made by the company In addition, to supplement S&W's financial results reported in accordance with U.S. Generally Accepted Accounting Principles, or GAP, S&W will be discussing adjusted EBITDA on this call. These non-GAAP financial measures are not meant to be considered in isolation, nor do they substitute for the comparable GAAP measure, and they are not prepared under any comprehensive set of accounting rules or principles.

Is that could cause future circumstances events or results to differ materially from those projected in the forward looking statements, including the risks that actual results may differ materially from those projected in the forward looking statements as a result of various factors and other risks identified in the company's 10-K for the fiscal year ended June 30th 2023 and other.

[noise] filing subsequently made by the company with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In addition to supplement S. W's financial results reported in accordance with U S generally accounted.

The accounting principles or GAAP S and W will be discussing adjusted EBITA on this call.

These non-GAAP financial measures are not meant to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the comparable GAAP measure and are not prepared under any comprehensive set of accounting rules or principles a description of adjusted EBITDA and reconciliations of historical adjusted EBITDA to net loss are included at the end of <unk>.

Robert Bloom: A description of adjusted EBITDA and reconciliations of historical adjusted EBITDA to net loss are included at the end of S&W's earnings release issued earlier today, which has been posted on the investor relations page of S&W's website, and an audio recording and webcast replay for today's conference call will also be available online on the company's investor relations page. With that said, let me turn the call over to Mark Herman, Chief Executive Officer of S&W Seed Company. Mark, please proceed. Thank you, Robert. And good morning to all of you.

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An audio recording a webcast replay for today's conference call will also be available online on the company's Investor Relations page.

With that said, let me turn the call over to Mark Hermann Chief Executive Officer for US in W. Seed Company Mark. Please proceed.

Yes, Thank you Robert and good morning to all of you.

Mark Herman: I want to start by confirming the great leadership that Vanessa has provided S&W over the last six months as interim CFO and how excited we are that she has accepted the permanent CFO role. I'm pleased to share the progress that we are making with you today to continually transition S&W into an efficient, operated, best-in-class seed company, driven primarily by the rapid adoption of our high-value trade technology solutions within SOAR. You know, as I have talked about since I took over as CEO back in July, my focus has been instituting key operational initiatives to drive the business towards profitability in the near term. These operational initiatives include improved lifecycle management to reduce obsolescence costs, the rationalization of certain low-margin forage product lines and seed treatments, suspension of our stevia development program, and an overall seed manufacturing cost reduction plan.

I want to start with confirming the great leadership that Vanessa has provided US an debut over the last six months as interim CFO and how excited we are that she has accepted the permanent CFO role I am pleased to share the progress that we're making with you today to continually transition SWM to an ambition operated best in class seat.

Any driven primarily by the rapid adoption of our high valued trait technology solutions within saga.

As I have talked about since I took over as CEO back in July My focus has been instituting key operational initiatives to drive the business towards profitability in the near term. These operational initiatives have included improved lifecycle management to reduce obsolescence costs the rationalization.

Certain low margin forged product lines and seed treatments suspension of our stevia development program and overall seed manufacturing cost reduction plan. These operational improvements coupled with the high margin nature of our double team sorghum trade solutions resulted in our second consecutive quarter with gross.

Mark Herman: These operational improvements, coupled with the high margin nature of our double-team sorghum trade solutions, resulted in our second consecutive quarter with gross margins above 30 percent, an improvement of 900 basis points compared to last year, as well as further reduction of our operating expenses by more than a million dollars. The net result is a $1.4 million improvement in adjusted EBITDA, and please remember the second quarter is seasonally our smallest quarter of the year. Beyond operational improvements, my goal has been to build upon the existing trade technology pipeline that will ultimately be the key driver of S&W's long-term success. Our first trade, Double Team Green Sorghum, has been the home run that we expected it to be.

Above 30% an improvement of 900 basis points compared to last year.

As well as further reduction of our operating expenses by more than a $1 million. The net result is a $1 4 million improvement in adjusted EBITDA and please remember the second quarter is seasonally our smallest quarter of the year.

Beyond the operational improvements my goal has been to build upon the existing.

Existing trade technology pipeline that will ultimately be the key driver to <unk> long term success, our first straight double team grain sorghum has been the homerun that we expected it to be sales during the second quarter were up 233% to $4 million as we.

Mark Herman: Sales during the second quarter were up 233% to 4 million as we continue to see strong farmer satisfaction, demand, and adoption of the high margin trade technology. As it pertains to Doubleteam, I want to share a few points from our recent farm survey on brand health. First off, 100% of growers who use Doubleteam said that they were satisfied with the grass weed control system.

To see strong farmer satisfaction.

Demand and adoption of the high margin trade technology.

It pertains the double team I want to share a few points from our recent farm survey on brand health.

First off 100% of growers, who use double team said that they were satisfied with the grass weed control system.

Mark Herman: Secondly, 100% of the growers who tried Doubleteam's system said they would be increasing acres in this coming year. Third, 87% of growers who use a double-team system stated they were satisfied with the performance. Fourth, 87% of growers saw the value of the double-team system. And lastly, 100% of growers said double-teaming was an easy system. Simply put, the feedback from growers is positive on value, satisfaction, and performance of the seed. Double Team provides superior grass weed control, which protects yields under high weed pressure and delivers a positive return on investment and thus increases overall farm profitability.

Secondly, a 100% of the growers, who tried double team system said, they would be increasing acres in this coming year.

Third 87% of growers to use a double team system stated they were satisfied with the performance for 87% of growers saw the value of the double team system and lastly, a 100% of growers said double team was an easy to use system.

Simply put the feedback from growers, it's positive on value satisfaction and performance of this system double team provides superior grass week control, which protects yields under high weed.

Pressure and delivers a positive return on investment and thus increases overall farm profitability.

Mark Herman: For these reasons, since its launch in 2021 and broader commercial launch in the calendar year 2022, Double Team Grain Sorghum accounts for what we estimate to be 6% of all grain sorghum acres planted in the US in the spring of 2023, and believe it will grow to more than 10% of this year's plantings of grain. This is not only a tremendous achievement for our sales team, but it also highlights the value and demand for innovation in this critical crop, which can be used as a substitute for many grains on the market today due to its key nutrient profile and its ability to handle higher temperatures, drier climates, better than many other crops and has been void of innovation to this point by larger agricultural companies. As I've said in the past, corn, soybean, and cotton growers have all benefited from research investments in advanced tools for weed control technology. However, sorghum simply has not benefited to this point from innovation, despite being the fifth largest cereal crop globally.

For these reasons since its launch in 2021 and broader commercial launch in the calendar year 2022, double-team grain sorghum accounts for what we estimate to be 6% of all green sorghum acres.

Planted in the U S. In spring of 2023, and believe it will grow to more than 10% of this year's plantings upgrades short term. This is not only a tremendous achievement for our sales team, but also highlights the value of demand for innovation in this critical crop, which can be used as a substitute for many greens on the market.

To date due to its key nutrient profile and its ability to handle higher temperatures drier climates better than many other crops and has been void.

Of innovation to this point by larger agricultural companies as I've said in the past corn soybeans and cotton growers have all benefited from the research investments and advanced tools for weed control technologies.

Sorghum simply has not benefited to this point from.

From innovation, despite being the fifth largest cereal crops globally. There are currently about 15 million acres globally with the.

Mark Herman: There are currently about 15 million acres globally with the expectation that this number will increase due to S&W's introduction of new technologies to increase yields. It's my opinion that as farmers increasingly recognize the value of new management tools, corresponding risk reduction, and yield enhancement through controlling grasses and robust crop grazing safety technologies, these superior traits will drive greater numbers of sorghum planted. We are looking to build upon the success of double-team grain sorghum with the introduction of double-team forage sorghum and prussic acid free trade for sorghum. Initial double-team forage sorghum sales are expected in the fiscal 2024, and a pilot launch of our prussic acid free trade for sorghum is being planted this year. High-value trade technology solutions will be a key driver of S&W's long-term success, and it is clear that we are becoming a key technology provider. Our commercialization strategy is to continue to drive sales through our S&W-owned Sorghum Partners brand but also align with independent companies with current market-leading brands in key grain and forage sorghum markets to maximize market penetration through licensing of S&W germplasm and or our traits. On that front, in the US, close to 45% of orders are placed with private label companies.

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It's my opinion that as farmers increasingly recognize the value of new management tools corresponding risk reduction and yield enhancement through controlling grasses and robust crop raising safety technologies. These superior traits will drive greater numbers of sorghum planted acres.

We are looking to build upon the success of double team grain sorghum with the introduction of double team board sorghum solution in prestwick acid free trade for sorghum.

This show double team forage sorghum sales are expected in the fiscal 2024, and a pilot launch of our prestwick acid free trade for sorghum is being planted this year.

The value trade technology solutions will be a key driver to S. N. W. Long term success and it is clear that we are becoming a key technology provider and startup.

Our commercial Kirk commercialization strategy is to continue to drive sales through our S. N. W owned sorghum partners brand, but also align with independent <unk> companies with current market, leading brands in key grain and forage sorghum markets to maximize market penetration through licensing of S and WD.

Germ plasm and or our trades on that front in the U S close to 45% our borders.

Our with private label companies and during the quarter, we have begun conversations with potential international licensees.

Mark Herman: And during the quarter, we have begun conversations with potential international licensees and have positive momentum leading us into the next. We couldn't be more pleased with the progress made to date within our sorghum trade technology commercialization solutions, as well as our pipeline. For the year, we continue to remain on target to achieve our stated goal of $11.5 to $14 million in double-team sales, more than doubling our revenue from last year. And don't forget our gross margins on double-team are approximately 65%, which will be a key driver of future bottom-line improvements. Beyond our sorghum trade technology portfolio, another key value driver is our agreement with Shell to develop camelina as a feedstock for biofuels, which Shell has a take-off agreement to develop green diesel and SAF jet fuel production. We successfully achieved all the stated objectives required of BBO and received the $6 million payment from Shell on February 6, 2025. As a reminder, the total paid to S&W, inclusive of cash payments and repayments of a loan on the NAMFA facility, was $20 million from Shell.

And have positive momentum leading us into the next season.

We couldnt be more pleased with the progress made to date within our sorghum tree technology commercialization solutions as well as our pipeline for the year. We continued to remain on target to achieve our stated goal of 11, 5% to $14 million of double team.

<unk> more than doubling our revenue from last year and don't forget our gross margins on double team are approximately 65%, which will be key driver of future bottom line improvements.

Beyond our sorghum trade technology portfolio. Another key value driver is our agreement with shell to develop camelina as a feedstock for Biofuels, which shell has it take off agreement to develop green diesel jet.

Jet fuel production.

We successfully achieved all the stated objectives required a b b O and received the $6 million payment from shell on February six 2024.

As a reminder, the total paid to F. N W. Inclusive boat cash payments and repayments of alone on the Nampa facility was $20 million from shell the infusion of capital.

Mark Herman: The infusion of capital is great, but the excitement is really in the partnership and the financial. Remember, we currently own 34% of the JV to produce sustainable low-carbon energy fuel solutions from novel crop sciences like Camelotia. We are excited about the long-term value we believe this JV will bring to S&W and its shareholders. Within our Australian partnerships, we also received the expected $1 million payment from TRIGEL on January 2, 2024, as part of its position in the JV of Australian wheat. But we're achieving strong adoption in our high-margin sorghum tree technology solution. As we reported in the press release, we are closely monitoring the dynamics of the expanding conflicts in the MENA region on our international alfalfa operations. The war in Ukraine and the civil war in Sudan, as well as the conflict between Israel and Hamas, all contributing to expanded geopolitical conflicts in the MENA region, have caused disruptions to normal farming operations and seed distribution channels.

Is great. However, the excitement is really in the partnership and the financial interest remember, we currently own 34% of the JD JV to produce sustainable low carbon energy fuel solutions from novel crop Sciences like Camelina.

We are excited about the long term value. We believe this JV will bring to the SW and its shareholders.

Within our Australia partnerships. We also received the expected $1 million payment from triangle on January 2nd two.

2020, or as part of its position in the JV of the Australian business.

While we are achieving strong adoption in our high margin sorghum tree technology solutions as we reported in the press release, we are closely monitoring the dynamics from expanding conflicts in the Mena region on our international operations.

The war in Ukraine, and the Civil War in Sudan, as well as the conflict between Israel and the mass all contributing to expanded geopolitical conflicts in the Mena.

Mena region has caused disruption to normal farming operations and seek distribution channels.

Mark Herman: As we alluded to last quarter, we are seeing Saudi Arabia shift acres to wheat, demand and price erosion, as well as mixed shifts in the marketplace, all putting pressure on our business in the region. On a smaller scale, we have seen a shortage in supply within the Australia pasture business for specific products, which has limited our ability to meet demand in Australia. The third and fourth quarters of our business are always the largest quarters of the year for us.

As we alluded to last quarter, we are seeing Saudi Arabia shifting acres to weak demand and price erosion as well as mix shifts in the marketplace all putting pressure.

On our business in the region.

Further into a smaller scale, we have seen a shortage in supply within the Australia passenger business.

With specific products, which has limited our ability to meet demand in Australia.

The third and fourth quarters of our business are always the largest quarters.

The year for US we are monitoring the dynamics closely and began the fiscal year a series of cost cutting initiatives within our international operations as well as production optimization initiatives to mitigate any potential impact on our bottom line.

Mark Herman: We are monitoring the dynamics closely and began the fiscal year with a series of cost-cutting initiatives within our international operations, as well as production optimization initiatives to mitigate any potential impact on our bottom line. We will look to provide any further updates as critical during the upcoming selling season. Again, our focus is on profitability in the near term, not sales growth at any cost. I believe the actions that we have showcased on the margin improvement, OPEX reduction, successful execution of our high-value sorghum trade solutions, and our JV with Shell highlight our commitment to develop our best-in-class seed company for the long term. With that, let me turn the call over to Vanessa to review the financials. I will then look to quickly wrap things up and take your questions.

We will look to provide any further update as critical upcoming selling season continues.

Again, our focus is on profitability in the near term not sales growth at any cost I believe the actions that we have showcased on the margin improvement opex reduction successful execution of our high value sorghum treat solutions and our JV with shell highlight our commitment to develop best in class seat.

For the long term.

With that let me turn the call to Vanessa to review the financials I will then look.

To quickly wrap things up and take your questions Vanessa.

Vanessa Bowman: Thanks, Mark. Good morning to everyone on the call today. Let me run through the details of the quarter, starting with revenue. Total revenue for Q2 2024 was $10.9 million compared to $12.9 million in Q2 of last year. Breaking it down further.

Thanks, Mark good morning to everyone on the call today, let.

Let me run through the details of the quarter starting with revenue.

Total revenue for Q2, 2024 was $10 9 million compared to $12 9 million in Q2 of last year.

Breaking it down further.

Vanessa Bowman: Sorghum sales were $5.5 million versus $2 million last year, an improvement of $3.5 million. Of this, Double Team was $4 million versus $1.2 million in Q2 a year ago, an increase of 233% or $2.8 million. International forage sales were $3.6 million compared to $8.6 million, a decrease of $5 million, and U.S. forage sales were $1.4 million compared to $2.3 million, a decrease of $ We saw a $3.6 million increase in U.S. sorghum, of which $2.8 million was associated with double-team growth. We also saw a $3.5 million decrease in MENA for the reasons Mark discussed, as well as our broader decision not to discount non-dormant alfalfa as cheaper European seed disrupted the market. We also had a 1.1 million decrease in Australia pasture products due to a shortage in supply.

Sales were $5 5 million versus $2 million last year, an improvement of $3 5 million.

This double team with 4 million versus $1 2 million in Q2, a year ago, an increase of 233% or $2 8 million of the increase.

International sales were $3 6 million compared to $8 6 million a day.

Increase of five.

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And U S flooring sales were $1 4 million compared to $2 3 million a decrease of 900000.

Looking at it geographically.

We saw a $3 6 million increase in U S. The Oregon of which $2 8 million was associated with double team gorilla.

We also saw a $3 5 million decrease in May now for the reasons Mark discussed as well as our broader decision cannot discount non dormant alfalfa, it's cheaper European feed disrupted the market.

We also had a one 1 million decrease in Australia pasture products due to a shortage in supply and.

Vanessa Bowman: And finally, we had a $0.3 million decrease in Asia. Again, the key points here, Americas and Double Team, are up nicely, which are being offset by the macro drivers impacting MENA and Australia operations. Due to the dynamics in the MENA region, Mark discussed the potential impact of international alfalfa operations.

And finally, we had a 0.3 million decrease in Asia.

Again, the key points here Americas, and double team are up nicely, which are being offset by the macro drivers impacting Mina and Australia operation.

Due to the dynamics in the Mena region, Mark discussed potentially impacting.

International Alfalfa operation.

Vanessa Bowman: We currently expect fiscal 2024 revenue to be on the lower end of the previously communicated range of $76 to $82 million. As Mark mentioned, we are entering our two largest quarters of the year. Breaking the Guidance Down Further

We currently expect fiscal 2020 for revenue to be on the lower end of the previously communicated range of 76 to 82 million.

As Mark mentioned, we are entering our two largest quarters of the year.

Breaking the guidance down further.

Vanessa Bowman: We expect sorghum-related revenue to be between $22 million and $23 million in total compared to $18.5 million in fiscal 2023. Within sorghum, we are anticipating Doubleteen to be $11.5 million to $14 million, an increase of 77% to 115% compared to fiscal 2023. On the international side, we are expecting revenue to be on the low end of the previously communicated range of $45 to $50 million, compared to $43.6 million in fiscal 2023. And finally, on the U.S. forage operations, we see revenue of about $9 million, compared to $10.8 million last year. Now turning to March, gap gross margins for the second quarter of fiscal 2024 were 30.3% compared to 21.3% in the second quarter of fiscal 2023.

We expect sorghum related revenue is to be between 22, and 23 million in total compared to $18 5 million in fiscal 2023.

Within <unk>, we are anticipating double team could be 11 million to $14 million, an increase that 77% to 115% compared to fiscal 2023.

On the international side, we are expecting revenue to be on the low end of the previously communicated range of $45 million to $50 million compared to $43 6 million in fiscal 2023.

And finally on the U S forage operations, we see revenue up about 9 million compared to $10 8 million last year.

Now turning to margins.

GAAP gross margins for the second quarter of fiscal 2024, or 33% compared to 21, 3% in the second quarter of fiscal 2023.

Vanessa Bowman: This is now the second consecutive quarter with gap gross margins north of 30%. The improvement in Gross Profit Margin was primarily driven by increased sales of our high margin double team traded sorghum and a more favorable product mix in the Australian domestic market. This increase was partially offset by decreased prices in the MENA region and increased sales of our lower margin grain sorghum to Mexico.

This is now the second consecutive quarter with GAAP gross margins north of 30%.

The improvement in gross profit margin.

It was primarily driven by increased sales of our high margin double team trade, its Oregon, and a more favorable product mix and the Australian domestic market.

This increase was partially offset by decreased prices in the Mena region and increased sales of our lower margin grain sorghum to Mexico.

Vanessa Bowman: Looking to fiscal 2024 as a whole, despite the strong first and second quarters, we want to maintain our expectations for full-year gross margins, inclusive of any LCM charges, to be between 24 and 26 percent. Remember, this compares to 19.8% in fiscal 2023. To the extent that we have more clarity on the alfalfa market in the coming quarters, we will look at any potential needs to revise these expectations, but we believe we have taken a rather conservative view to account for these factors on the margin side today. Now we'll transition to operating expenses. GAAP operating expenses for the second quarter were $7.9 million, which is consistent with the first quarter of this year and an improvement compared to $9 million in last year's second quarter.

Looking to fiscal 2024 as a whole despite the strong first and second quarters, we want to maintain our expectation for full year gross margins inclusive of any LCM charges.

Between 24 and 26%.

Remember this compares to 19, 8% in fiscal 2023.

To the extent that we have more clarity on the alfalfa market in the coming quarters, we will look at any potential needs to revise these expectations, but we believe we have taken a rather conservative view to account for these factors on the margin side to date.

Now I will transition to operating expenses.

GAAP operating expenses for the second quarter were $7 9 million, which is consistent with the first quarter of this year and an improvement compared to 9 million in last year's second quarter.

Vanessa Bowman: Breaking it down a bit, we saw a $0.4 million improvement in research and development expenses, a $0.5 million improvement in depreciation and amortization, and a $0.2 million improvement in selling general and administrative expenses. Consistent with our expectations provided last quarter, we continue to believe total operating expenses for the fiscal year will be around $32.5 million, which is inclusive of depreciation and amortization. Now to EBITDA. Adjusted EBITDA for Q2 2024 was a negative $3.2 million compared to adjusted EBITDA of negative $4.6 million in Q2 fiscal 2023, an improvement of $1.4 million.

I can get down to that we saw a 0.4 million improvement from research and development expenses.

Is there a <unk> 5 million improvement in depreciation and amortization and a 0.2 million improvement in selling general and administrative expenses.

Consistent with our expectations provided last quarter. We continue to believe total operating expenses for the fiscal year to be around $32 5 million, which is inclusive of depreciation and amortization.

Now to EBITDA.

Adjusted EBITDA for Q2, 2024 was a negative $3 2 million compared to adjusted EBITDA of negative $4.6 million in Q2 fiscal 2023.

The improvement of $1 4 million.

Vanessa Bowman: A full reconciliation is available in the press release. Again, we are maintaining our guidance for fiscal 2024 of negative adjusted EBITDA to be between negative $7.5 million and negative $4 million. This would represent an improvement of approximately $2 to $5.5 million compared to fiscal 2023. Plainly, on the net income line, gap net losses for Q2 of fiscal 2024 were negative $6.5 million or $0.15 per basic and diluted share compared to gap net losses of negative $6 million or negative $0.14 per basic and diluted share in Q2 of last fiscal year.

Full reconciliation is available in the press release.

Again, we are maintaining our guidance for fiscal 2024.

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This would represent an improvement of approximately two to five and a half million compared to fiscal 2023.

Finally on the net income line.

GAAP net losses for Q2 fiscal 2024 was negative $6 5 million or 15 cents per basic and diluted share compared to GAAP net losses of negative $6 million or negative <unk> 14 cents per basic and diluted share in Q2 of last.

Fiscal year.

Vanessa Bowman: As discussed in previous calls, we will incur a loss on equity due to our interest in BBO. During Q2 of this year, that amounted to $0.6 million. This is a non-cash expense to S&W.

As discussed in previous calls, we will incur a loss of equity method due to our interest in D. B L.

During Q2 of this year that amounted to 0.6 million. This is a noncash expense to F N W.

Vanessa Bowman: We have provided a reconciliation in our press release, not only for adjusted EBITDA but for non-GAAP-adjusted net loss as well. As we discussed last quarter and mentioned in the press release, we received a $6 million payment from Shell in February of 2024. This number is not included in our cash number as of the end of December 2023.

We have provided a reconciliation in our press release, not only for adjusted EBITDA, but for non-GAAP adjusted net loss as well.

As we discussed last quarter I mentioned in the press release, we received a 6 million payment from shell in February of 2024.

This number is not included in our cash number as of the end of December 2023.

Vanessa Bowman: Despite our negative adjusted EBITDA expectation, which translates rather closely to our cash utilization, the payment from Shell is expected to cover any operating cash needs this year. Beyond fiscal 2024, if we are able to continue the growth in our sorghum technology portfolio and achieve the benefits of the stability and cost containment initiatives across the remaining parts of the organization, it is our thought that we will be near a positive cash flow position in the future. Again, I am happy to follow up with any of the details we discussed if you should have any questions. With that, let me turn the call back over to Mark. Thank you, Vanessa.

Despite our negative adjusted EBITDA expect expectation, which translates rather closely to our cash utilization the payment from shell is expected to cover any operating cash needs. This year.

Beyond fiscal 2024, if we are able to continue the growth in our sorghum technology portfolio and achieve the benefits of the stability and cost containment initiatives across the remaining parts of the organization. It is our thought that we will be near a positive cash flow position.

In the future.

Again, I'm happy to follow up with any of the details. We went through if you should have any questions with that let me turn the call back over to Mark.

Thank you Vanessa.

Mark Herman: As we've discussed, we have had tremendous operational progress to move S&W towards a best-in-class position. Gross margins have improved substantially during the first half of the fiscal year, and we have built on the progress made last year to reduce operating costs. Our first trade technology product we have developed, Double Team Grain Sorghum, has been the home run that we expected it to be. Sales during the second quarter were up 233% to $4 million as we continue to see strong farmer satisfaction demand and adoption of the high margin trade technology. We're looking to build upon the success of double-team sorghum with the introduction of double-team forage sorghum solution and prussic acid free trade for sorghum, both of which will bring revenue in the coming season.

As we've discussed we have had tremendous operational progress to move <unk> towards a best in class seed company gross margins have improved substantially during the first half of the fiscal year and we have built on the progress made last year to reduce operating expenses.

Our first street technology product, we have developed double team grain sorghum has been a homerun that we expected it to be sales during the second quarter were up 233% to $4 million.

As we continue to see strong farmer satisfaction demand and adoption of the high margin trade technology.

We're looking to build upon the success of double team serve them with the introduction of double team forage sorghum, a solution and prestwick acid free trade for sorghum, both of which we'll recognize revenue in the coming season.

Mark Herman: Our agreement with Shell to develop camelina as a feedstock for biofuels, green diesel, and SAF jet fuel production continues to move forward and meet all performance milestones, and the $6 million payment from Shell came through this last week. We clearly have an important few months coming up here in the alfalfa and sorghum growing seasons, and we are laser focused on executing against our business plan and mitigating any potential impacts that we may come across within our international operations pertaining to meat. Overall, I'm pleased with the progress that we are making, and I'm appreciative of the continued support of our shareholders. With that said, I look forward to taking your questions. Operator.

Our agreement with shell to develop camelina as a feedstock for Biofuels green diesel and jet fuel.

Production continues to move forward and meet all performance milestones.

In the $6 million payment from show came through this last week.

We clearly have an important few months coming up here in alfalfa and sorghum growing seasons and are laser focused on executing against our business plan and mitigating any potential impacts that we may come across within our international operations pertaining to Mena overall I'm pleased with the progress that we are.

Aching and am appreciative of the continued support of our shareholders with that said I look forward to taking your questions operator.

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Ben Cleave: Today's first question comes from Ben Cleave with Lake Street. Please go ahead. Alright, thanks for taking my questions. First, a couple of questions on Australian operations. One, I was wondering if you could provide an update on the status of the strategic review? And then, second of all, if you can comment on the kind of macro dynamics within Australia that you talked about, Mark, what effect, if any, they've had on the strategic review? Yeah, thanks, Ben. So on the strategic review, several of the initiatives we were looking at implementing or options to unlock value we've decided weren't beneficial for S&W shareholders. We've really moved to significant initiatives, most of them streamlining costs and changing our relationship with what I would call non-EBIT contributing business lines and or facilities. So we're implementing those now and probably fully implementing them by spring. Most of the financial benefits of cost savings and or structure changes will come in the 2025 fiscal year.

Today's first question comes from Ben <unk> with Lake Street. Please go ahead alright.

Alright, Thanks for taking my questions first a couple of questions on Australian operations.

One wondering if you could provide an update on the status of the strategic review and then second of all if you can comment on these kind of macro dynamics within Australia that you talked about mark what what effect if any they've had on the streets.

Excuse me on the strategic review.

Yes, Thanks Ben.

Sean.

This strategic review several of the initiatives, we were looking at implementing or options to unlock value.

We've decided werent beneficial perhaps in W. Shareholders, we've really moved to a significant initiatives most of them streamline costs and.

And change our relationship and what I would call.

Non EBIT contributing business lines indoor facilities. So we're implementing those now.

And probably be fully implemented by our spring most of the financial benefits of cost savings.

Indoor structure changes will come in 2025, our fiscal year, but we're moving forward with those we've got a eight significant initiatives that are being implemented now by the local team.

Mark Herman: But we're moving forward with those. We've got eight significant initiatives that are being implemented now by the local team. Okay, thank you for that. Next question on the double team.

Okay.

Thank you for that.

Next question on double team the performer.

Mark Herman: The performance in the second quarter was a positive surprise to me. I thought that revenue would kind of trickle in from that product in the second quarter, but it was much more material than I had expected. My question to you is, you know, when you laid out your full-year revenue expectations for that product, did you anticipate second-quarter revenues of this magnitude, or was that a positive surprise to you as well? And I have a follow-up question to that.

Performance in the second quarter was was.

The positive surprise I thought that revenue would kind of trickle in from that product in the second quarter, but not.

It was much more material than I had expected.

And do you as you know when you laid out your full year revenue expectations for that product did you anticipate.

Quarter revenues of this magnitude or was that a positive surprise to you as well, but I have a follow up question to that.

Mark Herman: Yeah, so it was part of the planning process, Ben. A significant portion of our sales in the US has now become third-party seed brands that are licensing both germplasm and trait technology. So the plan for processing and moving material in December and being able to position ourselves with seed companies that are then going to process that seed into their bag and prepare their channel for sales, it'll happen earlier in the year. So we weren't surprised by it.

So it was part of the planning process been.

Significant portion of our sales in U S has now become a third party seed brands that are in licensing both germplasm and treat technology.

So in the plan for ore processing and moving material in December and being able to position with seed companies that had been going to prosper process that seed into their bag and prepare their channel for sales.

It'll have happened earlier in the year, so we werent.

Mark Herman: It was a significant initiative. It has been a big success for the operations team. If you remember last year, there were some challenges in the smooth movement of material into the marketplace, and we're sitting very, very well right now for calm and steady delivery through this winter period, right, February and particularly March. So we weren't surprised by it.

Surprised by it it was a significant initiative.

It has been a big success for the operations team. If you remember last year there were some challenges in a smooth movement of material into the marketplace.

And we're sitting very very well right now for for calm and steady delivery through this winter period, right February and particularly March so we werent surprised by it it's all pretty consistent with our forecast that are in place for the full year, but an extremely positive signal.

Mark Herman: It's all pretty consistent with our forecasts that are in place for the full year but an extremely positive signal for the continued demand and success of the product in the marketplace. Okay, great. Thanks, Mark. And then you kind of addressed my follow-up question, but you know, I was curious about the level of comfort you have with inventory levels for that product you're having into the second half of this fiscal year. I mean, it sounds like you think you've got the inventory in place to hit that, you know, revenue target of up to $4.7 million. But I'm just curious if there's any kind of uncertainty around inventory to hit the high end of that number. No, there's, we're really sitting very, very solid.

The continued.

Demand and success of the product in the marketplace.

Okay, great. Thanks, Marc and then you kind of addressed my follow up question, but you know.

It's about.

Level of comfort you have with inventory levels for that product here heading into the second half of this fiscal year I mean, it sounds like do you think you've got the inventory in place to hit that.

<unk> targeted about the ports, but I'm just curious if there's any kind of uncertainty around inventory to hitting the high end of that number.

The others were really sitting very very solid we've got one very high demand product on the early side that has signals of being sold out but now what sales organizations, making sure.

Mark Herman: We've got one very high-demand product on the early side that has signals of being sold out, now with sales organizations making sure that all that demand follows through. And then the other key three DT grain sorghums have a good supply for us to keep aggressively selling right through spring. And then we have a good supply of the new DT Ford sorghum as well, to continue driving demand. So we're feeling very good about where we're sitting in terms of inventory. And, of course, all this product was either produced last year or this year. So the quality is solid.

All of that demand follow through and then the other key three.

D T grain sorghum have a good supply for us to keep aggressively selling right through spring and then we have a good supply of the new DT board sorghum as well to continue driving demand. So we're feeling very good about where we're sitting at inventory and of course all of this.

<unk> was either.

Produced the last year or this year, so quality is solid.

Mark Herman: And we believe we've got a good handle on the LCM or obsolescence as well. So I'm feeling very good about where the sorghum business is positioned right now. Great, very good. And the last question for me, regarding Vision Bio, historically, you've talked about how this isn't going to be something that, an initiative that's going to require any cash going from S&W to Vision here, at least in the foreseeable future. But just curious if that thought is reiterated today, particularly in the context of it looks like Vision is making a modest investment into licensing from another company. So is that still an initiative that you think is not going to be consuming any S&W cash here, you know, at least for the next, I don't know, 12 to 18 months? Yes, I believe that's still consistent. You probably know from the original deal closing that Shell was putting $13 million this year into the operating budget for VBO and then $12 million next year.

And we believe we've got a good handle on the LCM or obsolescence as well so feeling very good about where the sorghum business is positioned right now great.

Alright very good.

Last question for me.

Regarding vision bio.

Historically, you've talked about how this isn't going to be something not an initiative that's going to require any cash.

Going from S and W. Two vision here.

And the you know for the foreseeable future.

Just curious about the thought is reiterated today, particularly in the context like vision is making a modest ah.

Investment in licensing from a from another from another company. So is that still an initiative that you think is not going to be consuming any S and W. Cashier.

You know at least for the next I don't know 12 to 18 months.

Yes, I believe that's still consistent you probably know from the original deal closing that show was putting in $13 million this year.

The operating.

Our budget for <unk>.

V B O and then $12 million next year and then they are plan in places that it would be creating any now.

Mark Herman: And then they plan in places that it will be creating enough revenue to be cash neutral and supporting the business operations going forward. So I know Vision Bio is also working on their five-year plan simultaneously as we are. So we'll get more information as we move through it, but do believe that they're hitting all the milestones that are in place right now and fully anticipate that for the near-term future. Very good. Excellent. Well, I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question. Best of luck coming up in the second half of your fiscal year, and I'll get back in queue.

Our revenue to be.

Cash neutral and supporting the business operations going forward, So I know a vision.

<unk> is also working on their five year plan and simultaneously to as we are so we'll give more information as we move through it but do believe that they are hitting all the milestones that are in place right now.

And fully anticipate that for the for the near term future as well.

Very good.

Excellent well I. Appreciate you taking my question best of luck here coming up in the second half of your fiscal year and I'll get back in queue. Thank you Ben.

Ben Cleave: Thank you, Ben. Thank you, and ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star then 1 at this time. We'll pause momentarily to assemble our roster. And this concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Mark Herman for closing remarks. Yeah, I'd just like to bring awareness of one thing. We are updating the investor deck, and our targets are to get that onto the website this week.

Thank you and ladies and gentlemen.

As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question. Please press Star then one at this time, well pause momentarily to assemble our roster.

This concludes our question and answer session I would like to turn the conference back over to more common for closing remarks.

Yeah, I'd just like to bring awareness of one thing we are updating the investor deck and our targets are to get back onto the website. This week.

Mark Herman: So it will be in place; we're going to work to try to keep the investor deck updated with any significant new information as we go forward, which would include as we look at our five-year plan as we move forward as well. And any update as far as customer information that's happening in the marketplace that investors would find useful. So with that, I'd like to extend my thanks to everyone for participating in today's call. We look forward to, hopefully, speaking with all of you again here shortly. Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. We thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day. BF-WATCH TV 2021

So it will be in place, we're going to work to try to keep the investor deck updated with any significant new information.

As we are as we go forward, which would include as we look at our five year plan.

As we move forward as well.

And any update to as far as customer information that's happening in the marketplace that investors would find.

Interest.

With that I'd like to extend my thanks to everyone for participating in today's call. We look forward to hopefully speaking with all of you again here shortly.

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. We thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.

Okay.

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