Q4 2023 Ozon Holdings PLC Earnings Call
Veronika Romanova: My name is Veronika Romanova, and I am very happy to welcome everyone here in this beautiful Azon office, both our offline guests and those who are with us virtually, who watch the online broadcast. Today, among our viewers, there is not a single person who would not be associated with the economy around Azon, the development of entrepreneurship in Russia, the socio-economic life of the country, and the improvement of life in the regions. And how the investment of the company in these areas becomes the basis for its future growth. Our speaker, Igor Gerasimov, the financial director of Azon, will tell you more about this, and not only today. He will tell you about the financial results and priorities of the company's development. Sergey Belyakov, the managing director of Azon, will tell you about the economy around the platform and its impact on the socio-economic development of the country. We will ask a few questions to Aleksandr Isaevich, the general director of the Corporation for the Development of Small and Medium Enterprises.
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Veronika Romanova: Write your questions in the chat, but they will be at the end. This was a short announcement of our program for today. And now, let's get to it. I invite the first speaker.
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Igor Gerasimov: Please welcome Igor Gerasimov, the financial director of Azon. Your applause. Good afternoon. Thank you for coming.
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Igor Gerasimov: So, let's talk about our financial results for 2023. First of all, I would like to say that this is not only about... This is Zhenya Azonok from the company.
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Igor Gerasimov: This is the achievement of the Ozon Holdings team. We have a lot of partners, a lot of entrepreneurs with whom we, as a platform, work and which we allow to be closer to the client, solving a variety of tasks, from logistics, storage of goods, to receiving payments. As a result of 2023, our turnover increased by more than 111 percent by 2022 and exceeded 1.7 trillion rubles. The turnover of sellers on our site has increased by more than 130% year-on-year. This is significantly faster than the average turnover of ozones.
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Igor Gerasimov: At the same time, almost 90% of all sales were provided by entrepreneurs who work with us on our site. We are proud that Ozon helped a whole new class of entrepreneurs. In particular, the number of active sellers on our platform exceeded 450,000 by the end of 2023. At the same time, sales to entrepreneurs continue to grow steadily. The longer the seller spends time in the ozone, separately, we would like to draw attention to the fact that more than 80% of sellers are entrepreneurs from Russian regions, and more than 64% of all sellers started their first business with us. This is how we, as a platform, help people from all over our country to become better citizens. Blizzard, and make the first bold step.
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Igor Gerasimov: Customers continue to grow steadily. As of 2023, the number of active customers of Ozon has exceeded 46 million people. At the same time, more than 85% of sales take place outside Moscow, and more than 90% of all customers are in Russian regions. At the same time... About 32 million buyers live in settlements with a population of less than 1 million people.
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Igor Gerasimov: This is a very important step and an important achievement for us as a company, because we not only develop business; we also help people who are far away from large agglomerations or metropolises to get access to goods on equal terms with residents of cities like Moscow. In 2023, we invested a lot of money to become physically closer to the world and to our clients. The number of points of issuance has increased more than 2.5 times to 45,000 points, so almost every person living in Russia has an opportunity to receive a product from Ozon either at our own production facility or in our own warehouse or at a partner publishing house, for example, with the help of Pochta Rossiya. More than 90% of the issuance points are located outside of Moscow.
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Igor Gerasimov: We constantly pay attention to how important the regional aspect of business development has become because we believe that development in Russian regions will be an important driver of our sales in the future. In addition, the points of issuance are opened by entrepreneurs, our partners, which additionally allows us to take the first steps in entrepreneurship. All that growth would be impossible if it wasn't for... investments in the physical infrastructure, storage, and processing of goods. It is no secret that one of the foundations for the success of Ozone and our growth was long-term investments, and at the moment, we are one of the largest. We manage more than 2.5 million square feet. m. of logistics areas.
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Igor Gerasimov: At the same time, this is a unique kind of infrastructure that is suitable for servicing the flow of orders in the e-commerce segment, which allows you to do it quickly, which allows you to store goods as closely as possible to the client, and which allows our partners to solve logistic tasks as efficiently as possible. In conclusion, I would like to say that our strategy certainly brings results. In this slide, you can see the key operational metrics for us. We see that...
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Igor Gerasimov: Thanks to everything we did to develop our partners, to attract new customers, not only the active customer base but also the frequency with which our customers make orders increased over the years. And, in the end, of course, this led to a significant increase in turnover. The increase in turnover significantly exceeded the planned indicators that we communicated to the market at the beginning of 2020. I've already told you about turnover.
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Igor Gerasimov: The net profit... This is the difference between Masha and me. Key logistic costs have increased by more than 36%. However, the main operational costs, namely office maintenance, investment, marketing, and everything else, have not increased at all year-on-year.
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Igor Gerasimov: This has allowed us to show a positive financial result for the end of 2023 and, what is more important, a significant and positive operational flow, which allows us to finance ambitious plans for the development of the company in the future. Our plans for 2024 remain quite ambitious. We believe that by the end of the year... We can grow more than 70% to demonstrate the positive marginality of EBITDA. Thank you all for your attention. This is the end of my presentation. Once again, your applause.
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Operator: I know that there are a lot of questions now, including Igor's. I remind you that these questions and answers from the management of Azon are scheduled for the end of the event, so prepare your questions. Of course, I was inspired by what Igor was talking about now, and, as the host of the business channel, I communicate a lot with representatives of different businesses. What amazes me about Ecom is the growth rate at a turnover of one trillion rubles. Azon has grown from almost a trillion to almost two trillion rubles in the past 23 years and has maintained positive profitability. What does this mean?
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Operator: And almost half a million sellers sold their goods, and you gave these goods for 45 thousand rubles. Most likely, we will answer some basic questions. But also prepare your questions for our Q&A session. Good afternoon.
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Operator: Good afternoon, friends. Alexei and Darya, tell me what you sell. Let's start. I sell yarn and handicraft goods. The brand Hobby Idea has been represented in this area for about two years. What a delicate matter in every sense. Alexei, and you?
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Alexey: No, we have other channels, we are on six marketplaces, we have offline. But Ozon is a strategic platform for us now. We opened production in Moscow specifically for Ozon, to launch this region. So it is a strategic partnership for us, and we see very big prospects for the next few years. How many factories do you have? Now there are two; we are planning a third one.
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Operator: I think it's a good example of how Anzon can contribute to the development of entrepreneurship. But there is an opinion that marketplaces are very difficult to sell, difficult, expensive, it's a hegemon. What do you say, what are the advantages? You, as I understand it, combine channels, right?
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Operator: Today we have 55 PVZ in the Moscow region. This is not much, I think. Yes, if we talk about the zone, we have a structure... We look at the year-by-year analysis.
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Alexey: We now have about 20% growth per month, year-by-year, in Moscow and the region. But if you add it up to the figures that Igor showed, it is clear that the main growth is in the regions now, probably, compared to Moscow and the region, so there is room to grow in the part of regional development. Yes, we will talk about the structure of demand in the regions, but I would also like to know about Alexey. Alexey, do you understand at all about algorithms how they work? Do you yourself, as a leader, do something by hand?
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Alexey: This is a strategic channel, of course. I know how to set up a search, I know how our logistics are built, I know all the mechanisms that take place inside the zone. I periodically participate in marketing stories, I look at the content funnel, how we sell our products, and how we communicate with customers. But this is the channel that is strategic; if you do not engage in it as an owner of a business, you will not be able to manage your business. You take another stake within the company, right? Because it's a huge job and it's very difficult. I don't think anyone here will argue with me.
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Alexey: But if we return to the question of the demand structure, do you feel that it is changing in favor of the regions? Yes, regional demand is growing. For example, last week we opened a warehouse in Surgut in order to have a lot of delivery methods there, our warehouse with our own forces. Regions are growing, and we see that they will grow. And whoever enters the region faster will probably sell more. So, Azon is your priority now? Azon, offline and online.
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Darya: My background is in IT. The best way is to work as quality assurance in a back-end so that Azon, working with an audience, provides your goods, and you do not slow down this process. And if we talk about promotion, I would like to unravel the most important myth. If you use promotion, then use brochures and promotion in search at the same time, you will not pay for both of these tools in the event of a sale. This is a very important point. Your brochure will either work, or promotion in search will work.
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Operator: Therefore, do not be afraid to include them at the same time in the same product. It seems to me that Daria is well versed in diversification, at least in her various processes, which she is passionate about, both IT and, again, craftsmanship. Amazing. Let's applaud. Such a rare combination.
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Artyom: Are you trying to open up more? As for customers, yes. Amazon provides analytics, and we can now see it online.
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Artyom: We see growth and coverage. There are good metrics; this is penetration. We understand how many customers live around us, how far we have come, and, as you said, the growth in money is 20% year-on-year. If you compare it with 2021-2022, it will be a decent percentage.
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Artyom: Nevertheless, in Moscow and in the region, the market for VAT has already formed, it has stabilized, and now it will consolidate. We are opening up a little now, almost not opening up; we are buying items from the market from people who, let's say, either do not have the strength and time to do it, and this is the same picture as with sellers. It is impossible to leave the opening and forget; you really have to do it, you have to be there, you have to make sure that employees do not steal customers, and they do not hooliganize. Like in any business. Yes, absolutely. Therefore, not many people can cope with this.
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Artyom: I would also like to talk about the development of new ones. On the other hand, we use infrastructure, which is very expensive, but we still consider it as an opportunity. There is an opportunity to minimize or remove service collection due to the increase in the number of VAT.
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Artyom: Since the opening of Moscow and the region is still a long way off, it is necessary to consider the possibility of selling some of the items from the market. For example, someone who does not want to spend his time managing the item can be found and sold to you. We also look at the regions, but not in terms of opening, but in terms of purchasing small networks in the region so that it all works properly. VAT is under serious pressure from the labor market. We have small salaries, and we consider it an opportunity because many newbies and VAT owners do not cope with the selection of people. There are not enough people; they need to be trained, trained, trained, and trained. I think you are a great mentor for those who want to open VAT. Think about it.
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Artyom: What regions, even in Moscow or in the region, do you consider as new points? We are historically developing our network in the south-east of the region and in the south-east of Moscow. We try not to spread the information to the outside world. We look at the development in this direction, and we look at the region in the south-south-east direction and further. If we talk directly about the point, what do you need to look at, know, and consider when you try to choose a point? Of course, locations in the form of VAT are primary.
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Artyom: What about the commercial real estate market? What can be a driver of development for you? Well, of course, everything is bad there.
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Artyom: We looked, we have been engaged in construction for three and a half years, and our rent has increased by an average of 35% during this time. Of course, the turnover of the points is also growing, but the rent continues to grow. Plus, if we are talking about new buildings, usually it is a concrete repair, so-called. The cost of the repair has dramatically increased dramatically, two and a half times in a year with a small one.
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Artyom: Now we are looking from one and a half to two years. The horizon of profitability is for those who think that they can come here very quickly and earn a lot. No, this is the same business, in general, as for sellers. It is difficult, you have to do it, you have to be able to do it, you have to get into every detail. If you stand on the side of the owner, you will not be able to calculate your dividends sitting in Bali. You really have to do it every day, then there will be a result. Now, in general, the market has been reformatted very seriously. If we take any sphere, then now we need to work a lot.
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Alexey: Alexey, will your number of factories grow? Of course it will grow, and the staff will grow. We are now going through localization; we will open factories in those directions to reduce the burden of delivery. Because we have learned to open them quickly and conveniently, we have made special lines for production.
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Alexey: Everything is connected. You just need to go to Ozon, pay, and say thank you to us later. What can Marketplace do for you to improve even more? The logistics chain is important for us. Ozon is actually one of the best in Marketplace.
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Darya: When there will be 3D printers, ready-made furniture, then it can be done. And now it's a production process. It's a factory that people are involved in. They do it, they sew. Daria, what can you do in Marketplace for your business, so that this growth that you have planned for yourself, and maybe further growth, is also possible? And was it easier?
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Artyom: What would you like the marketplace to do? We need stable, long-term working rules so that we can invest long-term. Because we reinvest the money we earn in development, we buy stocks. Last year, we actively opened stocks, but we intend to grow even further. Everything we need is clear, transparent, and at least fixed for some period of working rules. This is more than enough.
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Artyom: This means that people are used to the zone, and they intend to buy further. Therefore, in principle, all we need is normal, stable, constant work rules. In terms of rewards, work with objections, with claims, with clients, and so on. As a small and medium-sized business, we will always find ways to develop. It is wonderful that you are so deeply immersed in what you do, and you not only give it to your employees, delegate it, but also directly engage in these processes. This is a worthy admiration.
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Alexander Isaevich: You can get all this quickly, predictably, and at a price that is available to residents of other large cities. And it has a synergy effect. On the one hand, the quality of life of buyers, and the quality of life in the regions, is growing. And on the other hand, the number of those entrepreneurs is growing. Business is growing in the country. The development of entrepreneurship is growing, both small and medium. And now, it seems to me that it is very logical to give the floor to Alexander Isaevich, General Director of the Corporation for the Development of Small and Medium-Sized Entrepreneurship. Alexander, I invite you to our improvised stage to talk about the role of Ecom in the life of cities, in the life of regions, in the quality of life. And about how Ozon and Ecom in general, and Ozon in particular, affect the development of entrepreneurship in Russia. Thank you for inviting me.
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Alexander Isaevich: Indeed, online trading is one of the fastest-growing segments of the Russian economy and the MSP sector. You rightly mentioned in your previous speech that it is of great social importance since it goes where offline is not profitable and cannot. At the same time, both for a novice entrepreneur and for an entrepreneur who is already working in the field of online trading, marketplaces give the opportunity to supply their products to all markets in our big country.
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Alexander Isaevich: We see more and more often that clothing manufacturers, services, from the point of view of accessories, choose for themselves the possibility of implementing their products in an online format since I will not list the advantages there. Before that, all entrepreneurs were called. And often, the online format allows the entrepreneur to focus more on the implementation of his direct task, that is, to do business, save money for the opening of offline platforms, and, in fact, to focus on the qualities, on those opportunities that time gives him today. To make it as simple as possible and to take the first step to work in an online format, on the MSPRF digital platform, together with colleagues from Ozon, there are both educational joint programs and corresponding discounts for participants of our state platform. At the same time, the main task of the MSPRF digital platform is to simplify the life of entrepreneurs. To date, it has more than 30 services. Against the backdrop of the huge negative effects of the pandemic, it gave us an opportunity to develop our online trade. At the same time, everyone began to order goods and services from home everywhere.
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Alexander Isaevich: Today, this number has increased ninefold, and today, 387,000 entrepreneurs are engaged in online trading. At the same time, more than half of the 170,000 entrepreneurs were registered last year. In addition to the figures presented by our colleagues on the growth of the marketplace, the increase in turnover and the problems and so on, the number of entrepreneurs who look at online trading as the main direction of their development, as the market for profit, is also growing. At the same time, we understand perfectly well that 99% of this number are entrepreneurs who have just started their activities and have not moved from one to another category. But if you look at the horizon of 5 years, then more than 22 companies have already grown from micro to small and into large businesses. If you look at how many of these entrepreneurs use state support measures, then over 55,000 entrepreneurs used state support measures last year. Of these, 30,000 used financial support measures.
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Sergey Belyakov: But now we will try to do the opposite, to take off the makeup of what Amazon is, what Marketplace is, and what makes it successful, what it's called today-tomorrow, and what the company is waiting for tomorrow. An amazing thing has happened this year compared to the previous year. You know, there were a lot of initiatives in the field of information on how to regulate the digital market, marketplaces, online trading, whatever you call it. There are so many initiatives, so many authors of these initiatives that it seems that people understand what they are going to regulate. And when you start talking to them, meeting them, it turns out that understanding is close to zero. This is a big problem, because if it is supposed to somehow organize the activities of some subject, and no one understands what kind of subject it is, then it requires some serious, painstaking work in order to explain.
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Sergey Belyakov: The Russian company is also a company that provides accessibility, as I said, to any product produced in the world economy but also allows sellers, manufacturers, and countries of the Middle East and abroad, and not only the Middle East but all the countries where we are present, to reach the 140-plus million market of the Russian Federation, and our manufacturers and sellers will be able to reach the markets in those countries where Ozon is present or where it is going to develop its business. This is also a distinctive feature of us from retail. I won't even say traditional because I insist once again that we are not retail.
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Sergey Belyakov: And when we open delivery points and start delivering across the entire territory of Russia, and there is not a single settlement where we cannot deliver, and where we would not deliver the product, this means that we raise the standards of life for all residents, regardless of where they live. This is a good social mission, and it is pleasant to work on it. Of course, we think about profitability, abortion profit, profitability in all the characteristics that characterize the economy, but the fact that you work for the benefit of a particular person is motivating. The number of large warehouses, sorting centers, dark stores, and export points is characterized by billions of rubles that we invest in the economy and the money that we invest in the economy of the developers with whom we work. This figure is impressive. You have such a good turnover, but where is the profit? We want to see taxes on profits, but we don't have any.
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Operator: Indeed, the scale is impressive. Ozon is not just jobs, logistics, and a huge infrastructure, including an IT infrastructure. As we have seen, it is almost 1.5 million people whose earnings are directly related to the marketplace. It is the development of the banking service, including the new industry, the expansion of regional production, and, in general, the marketplace has erased the regional borders and, in fact, leveled the opportunities of those who live in big cities, in remote areas, and buyers and sellers in all corners of our country. Today we have already seen these wonderful houses, and now I propose to go on another virtual excursion.
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Operator: Today we discussed the financial results and the contribution of Azon to the social and economic development of the country at different levels, including at an emotional level. As promised, we will leave time for your questions. And I invite our speakers again.
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Operator: I repeat, for the broadcast, the question is whether Ozon has already moved to Russia. What is your status? I think I understand perfectly well that no; otherwise, I would not ask. Obviously, we strive to do this. In the course of this year, actions will be taken that will certainly bring us closer to the implementation of our arrival plan. We have such a plan, everyone supports it at all levels, but at the same time, there are obstacles and restrictions because of which we cannot implement it more quickly. You are growing very fast, and you say that you are building your own warehouse infrastructure, but, in general, now, in my opinion, the volume of warehouse vacancies in Russia is 0.3% or something like that, that is, very little. The question is how hard it is for you to maintain such growth rates, given that there is not enough warehouse infrastructure? Do you have time to build warehouses or rent warehouses? This, it seems to me, can also be such a factor that prevents you from growing.
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Igor Gerasimov: In fact, the ready-to-use infrastructure that is suitable for us was built according to our design, according to the Build2Suite technology, in order to meet our industrial tasks of storing, processing, and sorting goods. Therefore, the fact that there are no free areas on the market does not scare us. Most of our warehouses are on long-term contracts, and the new launches of this year were canceled at the beginning of last year. Therefore, the infrastructure that will be introduced in 2024 has already been contracted for a long time. And, accordingly, now there is a stage of contracting the infrastructure for the next few years. We are provided with the necessary capacity, and this is not a threat to the company's growth. Let me add one more thing, if you don't mind. If we describe the warehouse infrastructure market as a market for suppliers and buyers, now it is a market for buyers. We can get everything we need very quickly because it is a request for a land plot.
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Sergey Belyakov: The presence of contractors who will build on our order... We are a well-known company in each region, and we are well-known to them. And all regions, so to speak, stand in line for such investors as our company. We do not have a shortage of offers.
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Igor Gerasimov: I would like to congratulate you on the excellent results of the year. Kirill Kuznetsov is a strong investor. We hold the Ozon stock and showed a great growth of GMV by 110% in the 55% plan. I would like to clarify, if possible, a couple of questions. The first question is based on the results of the first quarter. What do you think? Is there a possibility that this year the plan will be re-implemented again? How is the trade going this year?
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Igor Gerasimov: Pass the microphone, please. Thank you, colleagues, for your service. I am your client. I was a shareholder for some time. If the prices are interesting, maybe I will become one again. I am interested in two questions. The first one is about some rumors and facts.
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Sergey Belyakov: This is all very clear. But how will Marketplace compete with such front-line sellers from other regions? Thank you. That was the first question. I think that... and some other companies that you mentioned. I can say that... Any changes in the shareholding structure, of which there were quite a few in our memory, historically did not affect the work of the management, the work of the team, and shareholders, who have been with us for a long time, continue to support our plans for development and continue to support us as a team. Regarding the second question, as Sergei said and said quite a lot and in detail, it is impossible to protect yourself from Frodo 100%.
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Sergey Belyakov: Because it is not only the creation of a product, a software of some kind, but it is also the maintenance of its activities, and it is a constant adaptation to changing needs, not only from the point of view of speed and operation, but speed, too, and the number of operations. And the software needs to be controlled. Therefore, 10%... 5,000 people are the IT team, and we, as an example, had many services that provided the work of the office. Foreign software has changed very quickly and painlessly. The same applies to a significant part of the equipment. There is an offer for Russian equipment. We are actively buying them, using them, but there is no software at all.
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Igor Gerasimov: The turnover that you see in our numbers is the turnover of purified returns. Therefore, it does not affect the numbers that we publish.
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Sergey Belyakov: I think that of all the possible ways to start a business, a partnership with Ozon is one of the most comfortable, fast, convenient, and inexpensive. We invest in some businesses ourselves. For example, we financially support those who have made such a decision. And those who start selling through us, their costs are associated only with either production, if not manufacturers, or with the purchase and delivery to the territory of the country, if they use their infrastructure for delivery. Therefore, the minimum number of risks is no more than the risks of entrepreneurial activity.
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Sergey Belyakov: This is not just an opportunity to open a business, partner with Azon, and then scale the success of working with Azon. Thank you. Daria also had a question. Please hand over the microphone. I'm not asking about yarn.
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Sergey Belyakov: Well, they are more like, I don't know, software for project management, something like that. But critical things remain ours, I see. Thank you. Thank you. We continue to support the wave of online optimism. Vladislav Zapisochny sent us three questions. We cannot answer all three, but we will try to answer them. The main thing is that there are a lot of such questions.
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Sergey Belyakov: We will also continue the gradual expansion in the country of the nearest foreign countries, for example, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Uzbekistan, and so on on in the list. We believe that our accumulated base of sellers and clients will allow us to create a large enough demand for development in these markets. We will also continue to develop our own advertising products and financial services. We will finish smoothly. Let's have the final question offline and online. Let me ask it from online then. About the fire in Istra, they asked the size of the insurance payments, when they will be, probably, Igor, you? We had a fire in New Riga, while the competent authorities continue to investigate. I do not have the terms of this investigation.
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Igor Gerasimov: And 170 billion, about 60 billion, just belongs to our Fintech. That's why it's money that... They work in a segregated way, which cannot be directly connected to the main business and which our bank manages separately from us. Therefore, the balance, which is directly related to e-commerce, is slightly less. Speaking of Fintech... Our financial operation is very profitable. The ruble of the bank exceeds 50%, and even all the passives that they attract, even at the current rates, they have the opportunity to place with profit. That's why we think that...
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Igor Gerasimov: In the long term, it will be one of the most profitable divisions of the whole business as a group, and I think that in the near future, we will begin, in particular, to reveal the main results of the work of our financial unit. Is there anything else to add? We thank the speakers, Igor Gerasimov, the financial director of Ozon, and Sergey Belyakov, the managing director of Ozon. We thank Marketplace Ozon for sharing their numbers, their results, and how these results, how these achievements affect the social and economic development of our country, the development of entrepreneurship, and improve the quality of life in the regions, affect the lives of millions of people in general. And we thank all the viewers and everyone who was with us offline and online. Thank you. Have a wonderful day!
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