Q1 2024 Elevance Health Inc Earnings Call
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Elevance Health First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session where participants are encouraged to present a single question. If you wish to ask a question, please press star, then one on your telephone keypad. You will hear a prompt that you have been cued. You may withdraw your question at any time by pressing star, then two.
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Speaker Change: These instructions will be repeated prior to the question and answer portion of this call. As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded I would now like to turn the conference over to the company's management. Please go ahead.
Stephen Vartan Tanal: Good morning, and welcome to Elevance Health's first quarter 2024 earnings call. This is Steve Tanal, Vice President of Investor Relations, and with us this morning on the earnings call are Gail Boudreaux, President and CEO, Mark Kaye, our CFO, Peter Haytaian, President of Carillon, Morgan Kendrick, President of our Commercial Health Benefits business, and Felicia Norwood, President of our Government Health Benefits business.
Speaker Change: Good morning, and welcome to <unk> first quarter 2024 earnings call. This is Steve <unk>, Vice President of Investor Relations and with US. This morning on the earnings call are Gail Boudreaux, President and CEO, Mark <unk>, our CFO, Peter Italian President of Carillon Morgan Kendrick President.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Our commercial health benefits business, and Felicia Norwood President of our government health benefits business Gail will begin the call with a brief discussion of the quarter recent progress against our strategic initiatives and our updated outlook for the year Mark will then discuss our financial results and outlook in greater detail.
Stephen Vartan Tanal: Gail will begin the call with a brief discussion of the quarter, recent progress against our strategic initiatives, and our updated outlook for the year. Mark will then discuss our financial results and outlook in greater detail. After our prepared remarks, the team will be available for Q&A. During the call, we will reference certain non-GAAP measures. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are available on our website, www.ele
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: After our prepared remarks, the team will be available for Q&A.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: During the call we will reference certain non-GAAP measures reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are available on our website <unk> dot com.
Stephen Vartan Tanal: We will also be making some forward-looking statements on this call. Listeners are cautioned that these statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, many of which are difficult to predict and generally beyond the control of Elevance Health. These risks and uncertainties can cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. We advise listeners to carefully review the risk factors discussed in today's press release and in our quarterly filings with the SEC. I will now turn the call over to Gail. Thank you, Steve.
Speaker Change: I'll also be making some forward looking statements on this call listeners are cautioned that these statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties many of which are difficult to predict and generally beyond the control valve itself. These risks and uncertainties can cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. We advise listeners to carefully review the risk factors discussed in today's press release.
Speaker Change: And in our quarterly filings with the SEC I will now turn the call over to Gail.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Thank you Steve and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining today's earnings call.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Thank you, Steve, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us for today's earnings call. I'm pleased to report that Elevance Health delivered first-quarter gap earnings per share of $9.59 and adjusted diluted earnings per share of $10.64, reflecting growth of 12.5%. These results reflect disciplined execution of our strategic initiatives during a dynamic time for our industry. Given the solid start to the year, we have increased our guidance for adjusted earnings per share by $0.10 to be greater than $37.20.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: I'm pleased to report the elegance health delivered first quarter GAAP earnings per share of $9 59.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: And adjusted diluted earnings per share of $10.64, reflecting growth of 12, 5%.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: These results reflect disciplined execution of our strategic initiatives during a dynamic time for our industry.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Given the solid start to the year, we have increased our guidance for adjusted earnings per share by 10 cents to be greater than $37 in 'twenty.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: We are making significant progress on our enterprise strategy in 2024 to accelerate capabilities and services, invest in high-growth opportunities, and optimize our health benefits business. On Monday, we announced the next step in our journey to expand access to high-quality, patient-centered, value-based care in our local market. After years of experience working closely with care providers to advance value-based care, we are confident that our hyper-local approach, which aligns the right incentives, real-time patient information, and clinical decision support tools, delivers better health outcomes, improves consumer and provider experience, and greater affordability.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: We are making significant progress on our enterprise strategy in 2024.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Accelerate capabilities and services.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: First in high growth opportunities and optimize our health benefits business.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: On Monday, we announced the next step in our journey to expand access to high quality patient centered value based care and our local market.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: After years of experience working closely with care providers to advance value based care, we are confident that our hyperlocal approach, which aligns the right incentives.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Real time patient information and clinical decision support tools delivers better health outcomes improve consumer and provider experience and greater affordability.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Accordingly, we entered into an agreement to form a strategic partnership with Clayton, Dublier, and Rice to build a payer-agnostic, advanced primary care and physician enablement business serving consumers across commercial, Medicare, and Medicaid health plans, consistent with the diversity of our own medical membership. Upon formation, the combined company will serve nearly 1 million patients.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Accordingly, we entered into an agreement to form a strategic partnership with Clayton Dubilier <unk> rice to build the payer agnostic advanced primary care and physician enablement business, serving consumers across commercial Medicare and Medicaid health plans consistent with the diversity of our.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: One medical membership.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Upon formation, the combined company will serve nearly 1 million consumers.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: The new venture will bring together the strengths of three innovative care provider entities, including certain care delivery and enablement assets of Carillon Health. Importantly, we have worked closely with these companies and their management teams and are confident in the value they deliver for our Medicare, Medicaid, and Commercial Health Plan members and employers. We're excited to collaborate with CDNR and a broad range of care provider partners to accelerate innovation, enhance healthcare experiences, and improve health outcomes for consumers.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: The new venture will bring together the strengths of three innovative care provider entities, including certain care delivery enablement assets of Carolina health.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Importantly, we have worked closely with these companies and their management teams and are confident in the value they deliver for Medicare Medicaid and commercial health plan members and employers.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: We're excited to collaborate with C DNR and a broad range of care provider partners to accelerate innovation enhanced health care experiences and improve health outcomes for consumers.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: The collaborative development of the business will advance our enterprise strategy by accelerating the provision of value-based care for our members and consumers more broadly, with our Caroline businesses providing capabilities to integrate and personalize the care delivered. In time, Elevance Health will have full ownership of what we expect will be a leading platform for value-based care delivery and physician enablement at scale across commercial group, ACA, Medicare, and Medicaid health plans, advancing our role as a lifetime trusted health partner for the consumers we are privileged to serve.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: The collaborative development of the business will advance our enterprise strategy by accelerating the provision of value based care for our members and consumers more broadly.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: With our Carolina businesses, providing capabilities to integrate and personalize the care delivered.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: In time elegance health will have full ownership of what we expect will be a leading platform for value based care delivery and physician enablement at scale across commercial group.
Medicare and Medicaid health plans advancing our role as a lifetime trusted health partner. So the consumers we are privileged to serve.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: In the first quarter, we made tangible progress on our strategic initiatives, notably in Carillon, where we continue to scale our flywheel for enterprise growth. Caroline Rx closed its acquisition of Paragon Healthcare, a leading provider of infusion services.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: In the first quarter, we made tangible progress on our strategic initiatives, notably in Carolina, where we continue to scale, our flywheel for enterprise growth.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Carolina <unk> closed its acquisition of Paragon healthcare, a leading provider of infusion services.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: We are looking forward to expanding its geographic reach and therapeutic coverage to serve more consumers and Elevance Health members for years to come. As CarolNRX furthers our enterprise commitment to address the whole health needs of our members, Notably, those with chronic and complex conditions, we are accelerating the build-out of our own specialty pharmacy. For example, we recently entered into an agreement to acquire Kroger's Specialty Pharmacy Business, the sixth largest specialty pharmacy in the country.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: We are looking for reach expanding its geographic reach and therapeutic coverage to serve more consumers and elegance health members for years to come.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: As Carol on Rx furthers, our enterprise commitment to address the whole health needs of our members.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Notably those with chronic and complex conditions, we are accelerating the build out of our own specialty pharmacy.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: For example, we recently entered into an agreement to acquire Kroger specialty pharmacy business.
Six largest specialty pharmacy in the country.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: The acquisition will bolster the growth of our existing pharmacy and infusion businesses while increasing Caroline Rx's access to limited distribution drugs. Carillon Services is also off to a strong start this year, as we implemented and were awarded multiple new contracts, a testament to the value Carillon Services provides. For instance, Carillon Behavioral Health was selected by the Maryland Department of Health to provide behavioral health management services to more than 1.7 million Medicaid members starting in 2025.
The acquisition will bolster the growth of our existing pharmacy and infusion businesses, while increasing Caroline Rx is access to limited distribution drugs.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Caroline services is also off to a strong start this year as we implemented and were awarded multiple new contracts a testament to the value Caroline services provides.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: For instance, carillon behavioral health was selected by the Maryland Department of health to provide behavioral health management services to more than $1 7 million Medicaid members starting in 2025.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: And in California, our team will partner with the public school system to expand behavioral health management services for students later this year. This initiative represents a major step forward in addressing the critical need for mental health support in educational settings and demonstrates our commitment to improving the health and well-being of our community.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: And in California, our team will partner with the public school system to expand behavioral health management services for students later this year.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: This initiative represents a major step forward in addressing the critical need for mental health support and educational settings and demonstrates our commitment to improving the health and wellbeing of our communities.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Momentum with external clients is building and underscores the value Carillon Services is creating for health plan customers through better consumer experiences and improved affordability. Our health benefits business is similarly off to a solid start. Commercial Margin continues to recover from pandemic-era lows, and we are enjoying momentum in membership growth, notably in our individual ACA plans and among large self-insured employers.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Momentum with external clients is building and underscores the value Carolina services is creating for health plan customers to better consumer experiences and improved affordability.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Our health benefits business is similarly off to a solid start.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Commercial margin continues to recover from pandemic era lows and we are enjoying momentum and membership growth, notably in our individual ACA plans and among large self insured employers existing clients are demonstrating their confidence in our offerings by consolidating their business with us after.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Existing clients are demonstrating their confidence in our offerings by consolidating their business with us after years of offering our solutions side by side with those of our competitors. In our Medicaid business, we were pleased to be selected in Florida and Virginia to serve beneficiaries across traditional and complex populations statewide, including those with serious mental illnesses in Florida and sole source foster care in Virginia. These awards and their pull-through opportunities for Carillon services underscore the distinct value Elevance Health delivers. In the first quarter, our Medicaid business performed in line with our expectations. We estimate that nearly 90% of our members have had their eligibility redetermined.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: The years of offering our solutions side by side with those of our competitors.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: In our Medicaid business, we were pleased to be selected in Florida, and Virginia to serve beneficiaries across traditional and complex populations statewide.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Including those with serious mental illness in Florida, and sole source Foster care in Virginia.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: These awards and their pull through opportunities for Carolina services.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Underscore the distinct value elegance health delivers.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: In the first quarter, our Medicaid business performed in line with our expectations, we estimate that nearly 90% of our members have had their eligibility re determined.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Further, our team continues to work tirelessly to maximize access to care for Medicaid members subject to eligibility redeterminations, helping them to understand their options in the face of ongoing logistical and operational challenges. Overall, we are proud of the work we have done in contacting more than 4.5 million Medicaid beneficiaries through our omni-channel approach. However, Nonetheless, a majority of members who have lost coverage for administrative reasons have not yet returned.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Our team continues to work tirelessly to maximize access to care for Medicaid members subject eligibility redetermination, helping them to understand their options in the face of ongoing logistical and operational challenges Holistically. We are proud of the work.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: We have done in contacting more than $4 5 million Medicaid beneficiaries through our Omnichannel approach.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Nonetheless, a majority of members who have lost coverage for administrative reasons have not yet returned.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: We're seeing a gradual increase in Medicaid re-enrollment and anticipate continued upticks in rejoiner rates as more Medicaid beneficiaries recognize their need to re-enroll, aligned with the trends that we have observed in recent months. Turning to Medicare, we were pleased to announce last month that CMS updated the S.T.A.R. scores for four of our contracts, which increased the percentage of our members in four S.T.A.R. or higher-rated contracts to nearly 50 percent, up from 34 percent. Well, this will improve our star quality bonus revenue in 2025.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: We're seeing a gradual increase in Medicaid re enrollment and anticipate continued upticks and rejoin our rates as more Medicaid beneficiaries recognize their need to re enroll aligned with the trends that we have observed in recent months.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Turning to Medicare we were pleased to announce last month that CMS updated the star scores for four of our contracts, which increased the percentage of our members in four star or higher rated contracts to nearly 50% up from 34%.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: This will improve our star quality bonus revenue in 2025.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Our goal is to have our star quality ratings at the high end of all plans in our local markets, which will be a multi-year journey. Funding for Medicare in 2025 will be challenging for the entire industry. We are disappointed that CMS has decided to cut Medicare Advantage rates for the second consecutive year, which will negatively impact seniors, notably those at the lower end of the income spectrum who rely on the program for their health and wellness.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Our goal is to have our star quality ratings at the high end of all plans in our local markets, which will be a multi year journey.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Funding for Medicare in 2025 will be challenging for the entire industry. We are disappointed that CMS has decided to cut Medicare advantage rates for the second consecutive year, which will negatively impact seniors, notably those at the lower end of the income spectrum, who really.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Lie on the program for their health and wellbeing.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: While we remain committed to serving seniors through plan offerings that focus on their unique needs, we will also continue to demonstrate discipline in our Medicare Advantage bids, seeking to balance growth and margin while continuing to deliver exceptional value for seniors. Across the enterprise, our focus on delivering whole health to the consumers we are privileged to serve remains steadfast. We recently released our 2023 Advancing Health Together progress report, which underscores the strides we are making through value-based care.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: But we remain committed to serving seniors to plan offerings that focus on their unique needs. We will also continue to demonstrate discipline in our Medicare advantage bids seeking to balance growth and margin, while continuing to deliver exceptional value for seniors.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Across the enterprise are focused on delivering whole health for consumers. We are privileged to serve remain steadfast. We recently released our 2023 advancing health together progress report.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: <unk> underscores the strides, we're making to value based care.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: The report showcases examples of our success, facilitated by the unique partnerships that we've created with care providers across the healthcare ecosystem. I'd like to highlight a particular achievement that underscores our innovative approach to improving quality and value in health care. Recently, Elevance Health was honored by the NCQA with its Innovation Award featuring quality accelerators in healthcare for leading-edge strategies that improve quality and value, specifically for our Obstetrics Specialty Provider Enable
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: The reports showcases examples of our success facilitated by the unique partnerships that we've created with care providers across the health care ecosystem.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: I'd like to highlight a particular achievement that underscores our innovative approach to improving quality and value in healthcare.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Recently elegance health was honored by the NCQA with its innovation award featuring quality accelerators in health care for leading edge strategies that improve quality and value specifically for obstetrics specialty provider enablement program the.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: The impact of these value-based partnerships and clinical interventions has led to consistent improvements in health outcomes and costs, including reducing preterm birth rates by 12% and low birth weight babies by 20%, all while improving access to timely prenatal care and postpartum follow-up. For those interested in learning more about these transformative initiatives and other examples of our progress, I encourage you to visit our Advancing Health Together website. In closing, I want to extend my deep gratitude to our 100,000 associates, who embody our purpose of improving the health of humanity through their tireless commitment.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: The impact of these value based partnerships and clinical interventions has led to consistent improvements in health outcomes and costs, including reducing preterm birth rates by 12% and low birth weight babies by 20%, all while improving access to timely prenatal care and <unk>.
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Gail Koziara Boudreaux: For those interested in learning more about these transformative initiatives and other examples of our progress I encourage you to visit our advancing health together website.
Speaker Change: In closing I want to extend my deep gratitude to our 100000 associates, who embody our purpose of improving the health of humanity through their tireless commitment.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: It's also heartening to see their efforts recognized externally. We were honored to be named to Fortune Magazine's 100 Best Companies to Work For list for the fourth year in a row. We were also included in their world's most admired companies and America's most innovative companies lists. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our CFO, Mark Kaye, to provide more on our operating results and outlook. Mark.
Speaker Change: It's also heartening to see their efforts recognized externally we were honored to be named to Fortune magazine's 100 best companies to work for list for the fourth year in a row.
Speaker Change: We were also included in their worlds most admired companies in America's most innovative companies list.
Speaker Change: With that I'd like to turn the call over to our CFO Mark Kaye to provide more on our operating results and outlook Mark.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Thank you Gail.
Mark Bradley Kaye: As you heard earlier, our first quarter results reflect solid performance under a dynamic operating environment. We ended March with 46.2 million members, reflecting Medicaid attrition, partially offset by ongoing momentum in our commercial business. During the quarter, we added nearly 400,000 commercial fee-based members, driven by strong retention and a successful national account selling season, and over 200,000 individual ACA members, given our attractive product positioning and coverage transitions away from Medicaid. Medicare Advantage membership declined slightly, as expected, given select market exits and the collective actions we continue to take to establish a strong foundation for profitable and sustainable growth over the long term.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Heard earlier, our first quarter results reflect solid performance under a dynamic operating environment.
Mark Bradley Kaye: We ended March with $46 2 million members, reflecting Medicaid attrition, partially offset by ongoing momentum in our commercial business.
Mark Bradley Kaye: During the quarter, we added nearly 400000 commercial fee based members driven by strong retention and a successful national account selling season.
Mark Bradley Kaye: And over 200000 individuals HCA members, given our attractive product positioning and coverage transitions away from Medicaid.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Medicare advantage membership declined slightly as expected given select market exits and the collective actions. We continue to take to establish a strong foundation for profitable and sustainable growth over the long term.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Operating revenue for the quarter was $42.3 billion, in line with our expectations. The consolidated benefit expense ratio of 85.6% improved 20 basis points year-over-year due to disciplined premium rate adjustments to reflect medical cost trends and the ongoing recovery of commercial margins from pandemic-era lows. The adjusted operating expense ratio is 11.4%, consistent with the first quarter of 2023, indicative of our commitment to disciplined expense management and investment prioritization. Solid performance and growth in operating gain for both our health benefits and care line segments, of $138 million and $72 million, respectively, led to growth and a consolidated adjusted operating gain of over 7%.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Operating revenue for the quarter was $42 $3 billion in line with our expectations.
Mark Bradley Kaye: The consolidated benefit expense ratio of 85, 6% improved 20 basis points year over year due to disciplined premium rate adjustments to reflect medical cost trends and the ongoing recovery of commercial margins from pandemic era lows.
Mark Bradley Kaye: The adjusted operating expense ratio was 11, 4% consistent with the first quarter of 2023 indicative of our commitment to disciplined expense management and investment prioritization.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Solid performance and growth in operating gain for both our health benefits and kill on segments of 138 million and $72 million, respectively led to growth in consolidated adjusted operating gains of over 7%.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Kellon services had a particularly strong start to the year with revenue and operating earnings growth, driven by risk-based service line expansions and effective cost management, especially in our Kellon Insights and Kellon Behavioral Health businesses, further accelerating our enterprise flywheel for growth. Operating cash flow in the first quarter was $2 billion, or approximately 0.9 times net income.
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Mark Bradley Kaye: We are accelerating our enterprise flywheel for growth.
Operating cash flow in the first quarter was $2 billion or approximately <unk> nine times net income.
Mark Bradley Kaye: With respect to the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with a debt to capital ratio of 39.4%, in line with our target range, preserving ongoing capital allocation flexibility. We repurchased 1.1 million shares of common stock for approximately $566 million during the quarter, underscoring our confidence in the intrinsic value of our shares and the long-term value proposition. We maintained our prudent and consistent approach to reserving. Days in claims payable stood at 49 days as of March 31st, up three days from the prior quarter. This increase was largely driven by higher reserves associated with slower claims receipts due to an industry-wide disruption that impacted a major claims clearinghouse.
Mark Bradley Kaye: With respect to the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with a debt to capital ratio of 39, 4% in line with our target range presenting ongoing capital allocation flexibility, we repurchased one 1 million shares of common stock for approximately $566 million during the quarter underscoring our confidence.
Mark Bradley Kaye: And the intrinsic value of our shares in the long term value proposition.
Mark Bradley Kaye: We maintained a prudent and consistent approach to reserving days in claims payable stood at 49 days as of March 30, <unk> up three days from the prior year quarter.
Mark Bradley Kaye: This increase was largely driven by higher reserves associated with lower claims receipts due to an industry wide disruption that impacted a major claims clearinghouse.
Mark Bradley Kaye: As a reminder, we expect our days in claims payable to be in the low 40s range, long term. I'd also like to take a moment to provide additional color on our strategic partnership with Clayton, Dubliere, and Rice. We are excited to partner with CDNR to scale what will be a best-in-class payer-agnostic advanced care delivery and enablement platform catering to the unique needs of consumers, regardless of their form of coverage. This collaboration will allow us to advance our local-oriented approach to care delivery based on the unique needs of the communities, consumers, and employers we are privileged to serve.
Mark Bradley Kaye: As a reminder, we expect our days in claims payable to be in the low <unk> range long term.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Also like to take a moment to provide additional color on our strategic partnership with Clayton Dubilier and right.
Mark Bradley Kaye: We are excited to partner with C. DNR to scale, what would be a best in class payer agnostic advanced care delivery and enablement platform catering to the unique needs of consumers regardless of their former coverage.
Mark Bradley Kaye: This collaboration will allow us to advance a local oriented approach to care delivery based on the unique needs of the communities consumers and employers we are privileged to serve.
Mark Bradley Kaye: At the onset, Elevance Health will hold a significant minority position in the combined business, with a clear path to first majority and then full ownership in approximately five years. The formation of the strategic partnership includes our capital contribution in the form of cash and our equity interest in certain care delivery and enablement assets of Kaelan Health, as well as the conveyance from CDNR, our pre-health care and Millennium Physician Group, and is subject to customary regulatory approvals.
Mark Bradley Kaye: At the onset elephants health will hold a significant minority position in the combined business with a clear path to FIS majority and then full ownership in approximately five years.
Mark Bradley Kaye: The formation of the strategic partnership includes all capital contribution in the form of cash and our equity interest in certain K delivery and enablement assets of carillon health as well as the conveyance from C D and our our pre health and Millennium physician group and is subject to customary regulatory approvals.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Overall, we are pleased with our first quarter performance and the solid start to the year. Momentum in our health benefits and care loan businesses and the balance and resilience of our enterprise underscore our confidence in delivering another year of growth in adjusted diluted earnings per share consistent with our long-term compound annual growth rate of at least 12%. As we look forward to the rest of 2024, our focus will remain on successfully executing our strategy as we accelerate capabilities and services, invest in high growth opportunities, and optimize our health benefits business. And with that, Operator, please open the call to questions.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Overall, we are pleased with our first quarter performance and a solid start to the year momentum in our health benefits and <unk> businesses and the balance and resilience of our enterprise underscores our confidence in delivering another year of growth in adjusted diluted earnings per share consistent with our long term compound annual growth.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Right now at least 12%.
Mark Bradley Kaye: As we look forward to the rest of 2024, our focus will remain on successfully executing our strategy as we accelerate capabilities and services invest in high growth opportunities and optimize their health benefits business.
Speaker Change: And with that operator, please open the call for questions.
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Speaker Change: That may wish to participate in this portion of the call for our first question will go to the line of Lance Wilkes from Bernstein. Please go ahead.
Unknown Attendee: Great, thanks so much. Let me ask you a little bit about the value-based care strategy and its execution. That's obviously a really big step forward. Could you talk a little bit about the kind of vision and scope of this? Is this gonna be more focused on enablement, or in particular markets, is practice ownership gonna be important? And maybe if you could kind of color in the picture a little bit as far as leadership, names, which Carolina assets are gonna be contributed, and near term, which areas of leverage across the membership base of Elevance do you see this being able to penetrate most effectively? Thanks.
Lance Arthur Wilkes: Great. Thanks, so much.
Lance Arthur Wilkes: Let me ask a little bit about the value based care strategy and the execution. That's obviously, a really big step forward could you tell us a little bit about kind of the vision and scope of this is this is going to be more focused on enablement or in particular markets is practice ownership going to be important and then maybe if you can kind of color in the picture a little bit as far as.
Lance Arthur Wilkes: His leadership names, which Carolina assets are gonna be contributed in near term do you see which areas of leverage across our membership base of elements you see this being able to penetrate most effectively.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Well, great. Thanks so much for the question, Lance. First, as I shared in my opening comments, we're very excited about this partnership with CDNR because it is very much the next step in our journey to bring value-based care to more consumers, specifically partnering closely with care providers. And we see it as absolutely consistent with driving greater risk adoption and advancing our specialty enablement strategy as well. So it's very much a first step there.
Speaker Change: Oh, great. Thanks, so much for the question Lance.
Speaker Change: First as I shared on in my opening comments, we're very excited about this partnership with <unk> because it is very much. The next step in our journey to bring value based care to more consumers, specifically about partnering closely with care providers and we see it as absolutely consistent driving greater risk adoption and advancing our specialty enable them.
Speaker Change: <unk> strategy as well so it's very much a first step there and as you said in your question. This aligns very closely with our strategy and our broad partnership focus to weird worked directly with care providers in our local markets and our goal again remains to increase more downside risk sharing in our value based arrangements I think take a step back with <unk>.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: And, as you said in your question, this aligns very closely with our strategy and our broad partnership focus to work directly with care providers in our local markets. And our goal, again, remains to increase more downside risk sharing in our value-based arrangement. I think, you know, to take a step back, what makes this approach unique is that we're enabling value-based care across all lines of business. So, as I shared, the combined company is going to be paragnostic, and it's focused on enabling advanced primary care locally.
Speaker Change: Makes this approach unique is that we're enabling value based care across all lines of business.
Speaker Change: So as I shared the combined company is going to be pair agnostic and it's focused on enabling advanced primary care locally and from the get go it's going to serve nearly 1 million consumers and that's going to be across our commercial Medicare and Medicaid health plans upon formation.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: And from the get-go, it's going to serve nearly 1 million consumers, and that will be across our commercial Medicare and Medicaid health plans upon formation. Another thing I think is important is that it provides the opportunity to pull through Carilon services to support those patients and accelerate that specialty enablement for complex and chronic patients. We have been working with these management teams and these assets for some time, and we feel very confident about the alignment of our goals to serve as a lifetime trusted health partner.
Speaker Change: Another thing I think is important is that it provides the opportunity to pull through Caroline services to support those patients and accelerate that specialty enablement for complex and chronic patients.
Speaker Change: We have been working with these management teams and these assets for some time.
Speaker Change: And feel very confident about the alignment of our goals to serve as a lifetime trusted health partner. The goal gets back again to focusing on whole health the needs of consumers driving greater affordability and fundamentally a differentiated consumer experience.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: The goal gets back again to focusing on whole health, the needs of consumers, driving greater affordability, and fundamentally differentiating a consumer experience. A few things about the partnership, too, and again, what makes it different for patients. They're going to have access to integrated teams, looking at personalized navigation, expanded digital assets, and specialized services. The primary care model is going to be built to be very distinctive, including community practices, purpose-built clinics, high-risk clinics, and digitally-enabled care models.
Speaker Change: A few things about the partnership too and again, what makes it different for patients they're going to have access to integrated teams looking at personalized navigation expanded digital assets and specialized services.
Speaker Change: Primary care model is going to be built to be very distinctive including community practices purpose built clinics high risk clinics and digitally enabled care model. So she can see its a fairly comprehensive approach and the last thing I'd say is that employers in market have not historically had access to a lot of these.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: So, as you can see, it's a fairly comprehensive approach. And the last thing I'd say is that employers in the market have not historically had access to a lot of these capabilities, and we have seen through the work that we're already doing that this dedicated primary care capacity that integrates clinical and benefits navigation with their specific health and wellness strategies is truly differentiated. So again, this is being purpose-built to work across all of the aspects of Medicare-Medicare commercial, not just a single business. So we're very excited. We see this as an opportunity to accelerate innovation in the space and improve health care outcomes and consumer experiences. So, thanks very much for the question. Next question, please.
Speaker Change: And we have seen through the work that we're already doing that this dedicated primary care capacity that integrates the clinical and benefits navigation with their specific health and wellness strategies is truly differentiating. So again. This is being purpose built to work across all of the aspects of Medicare Medicare commercial not.
Speaker Change: Just a single business. So very much excited we see this as an opportunity to accelerate innovation in the space and improve health care outcomes and consumer experiences. So thanks very much for the question next question. Please.
Unknown Attendee: Next, we'll go to the line of AJ Rice from UBS. Please go ahead.
Speaker Change: Next we'll go to line of a J rice from UBS. Please go ahead.
Unknown Attendee: Hi everybody, and thanks for the question. I appreciate Mark's comments about the buildup a little bit in the day's cash payable, but maybe to flesh out a little bit more the impact of the chain cyber attack on results. Do you have a census of what percentage of your claims that you normally see in the first quarter may still be out there? Do you feel like you've got a good handle on that and anything when you address that in terms of your normal IB&R, and maybe you've got a significantly higher level of IB&R because you're allowing for the change, and if you can break out what you're actually seeing a little bit on cost trends versus needing to sort of provision for the unknowns of the change cyber attacks?
Albert J. William Rice: Oh, hi, everybody and thanks for the question appreciate it Mark.
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Albert J. William Rice: The build up a little bit in days payable, but just maybe to flush out a little bit more of the impact of the <unk>.
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Do you have a sense as to what percentage of your claims that you normally see in the first quarter may still be out there do you feel like you've got a good handle on that.
Albert J. William Rice: Anything.
Albert J. William Rice: When you address that in terms of your normal ibs or maybe you've got a significant.
Albert J. William Rice: A higher level of volume in our because your allowance for.
Albert J. William Rice: The change and if you can break out what you're actually seeing a little bit on cost trends versus.
Albert J. William Rice: Needing to sort of provision for.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Thanks for the question, AJ. Let me maybe provide some broad-based comments and then I'll turn it over to Mark to provide a little more specificity on your questions. No, I wanna say first and foremost, I'm really proud of our teams and how they responded to this issue that occurred with change quickly and effectively. First, to protect our members and their data and also help our care providers maintain their operations and cashflow.
Albert J. William Rice: For the unknown the change cyber attack.
Speaker Change: Thanks for the question a J, let me maybe provide some broad based comments and then I'll turn it over to Mark to provide a little more specificity on your questions I wanted to say first and foremost I'm really proud of our teams and how they responded to this issue that occurred with change quickly and effectively first to protect our members and their data and also help our <unk>.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Providers maintain their operations and cash flow.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Importantly, I think it's important to note that from a perspective, we were not as significantly impacted by this, and we are back to normal operations in terms of claims flow. Additionally, another thing that's really important to understand is our prior authorization provider payments and pharmacy claims were not materially impacted as well because they don't go through change. We don't use change significantly for those. So with that, I'll turn it over to Mark to provide a few more comments, but I think framing it overall, we feel that our teams acted quite quickly and were really proud of our ability to work in the ecosystem to help support them.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Importantly, I think it's important to note that from our perspective, we were not as significantly impacted by this and we are back to normal operations in terms of claims slum importantly, another thing that's really important to understand is our prior authorization provider payments in pharmacy claims were not materially impacted as well because they don't go through change we don't you.
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Mark Bradley Kaye: Significantly for those.
Mark Bradley Kaye: So with that I'll turn it over to Mark to provide a little more comments, but I think framing. It overall, we feel that our teams acted quite quickly and really proud of our ability to work in the ecosystem to help support them.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Hey Jay, as you just heard from Gail, we acted quite responsibly to sever our network connections to change health care and to protect the data of both our members and providers. While we initially observed a 15-20% reduction in the daily volume of electronic data receipts from providers, most of which were claims-related, in recent weeks, our extensive efforts have led to a significant catch-up in outstanding claim volumes. And for the quarter, we have effectively caught up on claims receipts and are now working to complete all necessary claims adjudication and processing activities.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Hey, Jay as you just heard from Gail.
Mark Bradley Kaye: It quite responsibly to save around network connections to change healthcare and to protect the data of both our members and providers.
Mark Bradley Kaye: While we initially observed a 15% to 20% reduction in the daily volume of electronic data receipts from providers most of which were claims related.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Recent weeks, our extensive efforts have led to a significant catch up in <unk>.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Pending claim volumes and for the quarter, we are effectively caught up on claims receipts and are now working to complete all necessary claims adjudication and processing activities.
Mark Bradley Kaye: As such, as part of the normal reserving practices, we've reflected the appropriate impact of the industry-wide disruption related to changing health care in the reserves we reported for our first quarter financials, and that ensures both consistency with historical practice and prudence, and then to your specific question, the impact here was to increase our sequential days in claims payable quarterly results by approximately 1.7 days.
Such as part of the normal reserving practices, we've reflected the appropriate impact of the industry wide disruption related to change healthcare in the reserves, we reported for our first quarter financials, and then ensures both consistency with historical practice and Prudence and then to your specific question. The impact here was to increase our sequential days in claims payable.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Quarterly results by approximately $1 seven days thank.
Unknown Attendee: Thank you, next question please. Next, we'll go to the line of Josh Raskin from Nefron Research. Please go ahead. Hi, thanks. Good morning. I wanted to get back to the partnership with CDNR and specifically, what alternatives did you evaluate and consider before coming to this arrangement?
Speaker Change: Thank you next question please.
Speaker Change: Next we'll go to the line of Josh Raskin from Nephron Research. Please go ahead.
Alright. Thanks, Good morning, I wanted to get back to the partnership with the <unk> and specifically what alternatives did you evaluate and consider before coming to this arrangement.
Joshua Richard Raskin: In the past you were stressing more and I've heard it today as well that focus on specialty care. So how does that fit in and sort of get bolted on top of that and maybe where does this fit into your longer term national approach.
Unknown Attendee: Next, we'll go to the line of Josh Raskin from Nefron Research. Please go ahead.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Yeah, thanks for the question, Josh, because I think it very much aligns with the strategy that we've laid out. I guess, first and foremost, it's paragnostic, and it was really important.
Joshua Richard Raskin: How important was it that you could serve multiple memberships.
Joshua Richard Raskin: I just Medicare advantage.
Speaker Change: Yeah. Thanks for the question, Josh because I think it very much aligns to the strategy that we've laid out.
Speaker Change: I guess first and foremost it's payer agnostic and it was really important we've always said that our goal given the diversity of our business mix to serve all members across all business lines, given the depth and density of our membership in our local markets that is very important we had a partnership already working with many of these assets. So as I said, we know.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: We've always said that our goal, given the diversity of our business mix, is to serve all members across all business lines. Given the depth and density of our membership in our local markets, that is very important. We had a partnership already working with many of these assets. So, as I said, we know the membership, we know the leadership teams, and we know the value that can be created. And so, you know, we have been working with them and feel quite good about what we can create.
Speaker Change: The membership we know the leadership teams, we know the value that can be created.
Speaker Change: And so we have been working with them and feel quite good about what we can create this is payer agnostic, which we also think is very important.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: This is paragnostic, which we also think is very important. And again, this will help us continue to have a focus on advanced primary care; it's still very much focused on our chronic patients and complex patients. And we are still building specialty care enablement, which is again another very important component of what we're trying to probe through. So I think from that value-based care across all lines of business, a critical part of our strategy, very consistent, driving value-based care, continuing to drive much more downside risk, which means that we needed strong enablement capabilities to help practices work their way through that. We know that it takes time.
Speaker Change: And again this will help us continue through having a focus on advanced primary care, it's still very much focused on our chronic <unk>.
Speaker Change: Patients in complex patients and we are still building.
Speaker Change: Specialty care enablement, which is again another very important component of what we're trying to prime through so I think from that value based care across all lines of business are critical part of our strategy very consistent driving value based care continuing to drive much more downside risk, which means that we needed strong enabling capable.
Speaker Change: <unk> is to help practices work their way through that we know that it takes time.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: It is also a technology-driven model, so one of the nice things about this partnership is that there are embedded technology assets to digitally enable care as well. And then we have a focus on patient access and experience in the adoption of next-generation models. So again, consistent with the strategy that we've had over the last several years, not really a diversion, I think, from that. And I think the timing for us was right because we have been experimenting with multiple models and have a lot of experience in the space right now. So, thank you very much for the question. Next question, please.
Speaker Change: It is also a technology driven model. So one of the nice things about this partnership is that there are embedded technology assets to digitally being digitally enabled care as well and then we have a focus on patient access and experience in the adoption of next generation model. So again consistent with the strategy that we've had over the last summer.
Speaker Change: Yeah, it's not really a diversion I think from that.
Speaker Change: And I think the timing for US was right because we have been experimenting with multiple models and have a lot of experience in this space right. Now so thank you very much for the question next question. Please.
Unknown Attendee: Next, we'll go to the line of Ben Hendrix from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Speaker Change: Next we'll go to the line of Ben Hendrix from RBC capital markets. Please go ahead.
Unknown Attendee: Thank you very much. Just another question on the CDNR partnership. To what extent are these primary care platforms taking risks currently? Is that something that we will need to see develop as we kind of get more of these digital enablement abilities from Caroline? Just wanted to see if, over the five-year horizon to full ownership, we can expect to kind of get the full capitation on those platforms over that time period. Thanks.
Benjamin Hendrix: Okay. Thank you very much just another question on the on the C D and our partnership.
Benjamin Hendrix: Or to what extent are these primary care platforms, taking risk currently is that something that we will need to see develop as we kind of get more of these.
Benjamin Hendrix: Digital enablement abilities from Caroline just wanted to see if over the five year horizon to full ownership. If we can expect to kind of get the full capitation in those platforms.
Over that time period.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Thanks. Thanks, Ben. I'm going to have Pete provide a lot more context, but just quickly, about a third of the membership is under a risk arrangement now. So with that, Pete, why don't you give a little more color on the relationship and how we see it evolve?
Speaker Change: Thanks, Thanks, Pat I'm going to have probably provide a lot more context, but just quickly about a third of the membership is under a risk arrangement now so with that Pete why don't you give a little more color into the relationship and how we see it evolve and that's great.
Peter David Haytaian: That's great. Thanks for the question, Ben. And I'll give you a little bit more color on the assets and the capabilities. They really all have their distinct strengths. And we see great opportunities, quite frankly, to cross-pollinate.
Pete: Thanks for the question, Ben and I'll give you a little bit more color on the assets and the capabilities.
Pete: They really all have the distinct strengths, we see great opportunities quite frankly to cross pollinate. When you think about M. P. J to your question on risk. They really are a leader in managing Medicare and commercial risk and they've also got a very strong chassis I think for future growth and a proven model in that regard in terms of acquiring and.
Peter David Haytaian: When you think about MPG in relation to your question on risk, they really are a leader in managing Medicare and commercial risk. And they've also got a very strong chassis, I think, for future growth and a proven model in that regard in terms of acquiring and provider practices. So a very strong and managing risk capability and a lot of capabilities in that regard. What's really interesting about APRI, and Gail referenced this, is they've got differentiating technology and navigation capabilities with a real strong focus on the commercial business.
Pete: Provider practices so.
Pete: Strong at managing risk and a lot of capabilities in that regard, what's really interesting about our pre and Gail referenced. This is they've got a differentiating technology and navigation capabilities with a real strong focus on the commercial business. So a really nice entry point for us we've been working on relationships already in this regard and I'm really excited about that because.
Peter David Haytaian: So a really nice entry point for us. We've been working on relationships already in this regard. And I'm really excited about that because, obviously, as a company, we have a really strong commercial footprint, a really nice entry point for us. And then, of course, Carillon Health Advanced Primary Care, which is a leader in managing the complex and the chronic and largely takes risk today, we see a tremendous opportunity in a variety of ways for that.
Pete: We obviously as a company have a really strong commercial footprint, a really nice entry point for US and then of course Carolina Health Advanced primary care, which is a leader in managing the complex in the chronic and largely takes risk today, we see a tremendous opportunity and a variety of ways for that one from a.
Peter David Haytaian: One, from a technology perspective, a state-of-the-art EMR that we can upgrade, as well as from a growth perspective in terms of partnering with MPG and APRI. And then finally, and Gail mentioned this, but I'll reiterate it, a tremendous opportunity to wrap existing Carillon services into this arrangement that will create value for all three assets.
Pete: Technology perspective state of the art EMR that we can upgrade as well as from a growth perspective in terms of partnering with them NPG and approved and then finally and Gil mentioned this but I'll reiterate it a tremendous opportunity to wrap around existing carillon services to this arrangement that will create value for all three assets. So.
Mark Bradley Kaye: And then, one quick financial remark just at the end of Pete's comments there. We do expect the Consolidated Entity, once formed, to have over $4 billion in annualized revenue.
Speaker Change: I appreciate the question and then one quick financial remark just at the end of Pizza comments. There. We do expect the consolidated entity once formed to have over $4 billion in annualized revenue.
Operator: Thank you. Next question, please. Next we'll go to the line of Dave Windley from Jeffries. Please go ahead. Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. I'll switch topics over to Medicaid. Your redetermination enrollment impacts seem to, you know, maybe pick up some momentum in the quarter.
Speaker Change: Thank you next question please.
Speaker Change: Next we'll go to the line of Dave Windley from Jefferies. Please go ahead.
David Howard Windley: Hi, good morning, Thanks for taking my questions I'll I'll switch topics over to Medicaid your redetermination enrollment impacts seem to maybe pick up some momentum.
David Howard Windley: In the quarter.
David Howard Windley: I think you said, 90% of of members have now been re determined I wondered if you could give us some view of of kind of how you expect that to gate out over the next several quarters and then from a risk pool and rate adequacy standpoint could you update on on how that looks now that the membership is whittling down. Thank you.
Unknown Attendee: Next, we'll go to the line of Dave Windley from Jeffries. Please go ahead.
Felicia Farr Norwood: Thank you. I'm going to have Felicia Norwood address your questions.
Felicia Farr Norwood: Good morning, Dave. And thank you for the question. You know, frankly, right now we're at a point where our Medicaid business is actually tracking very much in line with our expectations. As you mentioned, we believe that about 90% of our members have had their eligibility redetermined. So as we go through the next few months, you certainly see this tapering down as we really wrap up the unwinding process as we get through June.
David Howard Windley: And Kevin have Felicia Norwood address your questions.
Felicia Farr Norwood: Good morning, Dave and thank you for the question you know frankly right now we're at a point, where our Medicaid business is actually tracking very much in line with our expectations. Our issue reference we believe that about 90% of our members have had their eligibility re determined so as we go through the next few months you certainly see this tapering.
Felicia Farr Norwood: Down as we really wrap up the unwinding process as we get through June.
Felicia Farr Norwood: One of the things I want to make sure you understand is that the downward trend in membership in the first quarter resulted not just from redeterminations but footprint changes as well. So it's really the cumulative impact of those two things in terms of the first quarter. When we think about the work that we will continue to do, we will continue to outreach to Medicaid members. Many members who have lost their membership at this point did that as a result of really procedural reasons.
Felicia Farr Norwood: One of the things I want to make sure you understand that the downward trend in membership in the first quarter result is not just from redetermination, but footprint changes as well. So it's really the cumulative impact of those two things in terms of the first quarter. When we think about that the work that we will continue to do.
Felicia Farr Norwood: Is we will continue to outreach to Medicaid members.
Felicia Farr Norwood: Many members who have lost their membership at this point that that is the result of really procedural reasons. So the team will continue to be very aggressive around continuing the outreach that's been going on and we're really proud of the work that we continue to do to really reach out to over four and a half million piece.
Operator: So the team will continue to be very aggressive in continuing the outreach that's been going on. And we're really proud of the work that we continue to do to reach out to over four and a half million people, as Gail referenced in her opening comments, to make sure that individuals who are truly eligible for Medicaid have access to Medicaid, and if not, are able to transition to an exchange product and continue coverage.
Felicia Farr Norwood: Paul It's Scott referenced in the opening comments to make sure that individuals who are truly eligible for Medicaid have access to Medicaid and if not are able to transition to an exchange product and continued coverage.
Operator: You know, in terms of where we are today with respect to the acuity and mix of that membership, the acuity is in line with what we expected. And I will also say that, at this point, we have visibility into 75% of our Medicaid rates and premiums for 2024. The vast majority of those are in line with our expectations, and they're actuarially sound. As you know, we have ongoing conversations with our state partners as we go throughout this process, and we expect those rates to continue to be actuarially sound.
Felicia Farr Norwood: In terms of where we are today with respect to you know the acuity mix if that membership.
Felicia Farr Norwood: Acuity is in line with what we expected and I will also say that at this point, we have visibility into 75% of our Medicaid rates and premiums for 2020 for the vast majority of those are in line with our expectations and they're Actuarially sound as you know we have ongoing conversations with her.
Felicia Farr Norwood: <unk> partners as we go throughout this process and we expect those rates to continue to be Actuarially sound. So we're going to continue to work with our state partners. We're going to continue the advocacy with our members in terms of making sure they have access to care and coverage and if we're going to make sure that we go through this process with a lot of discipline and <unk>.
Operator: So we're going to continue to work with our state partners. We're going to continue the advocacy with our members in terms of making sure they have access to care and coverage, and we're going to make sure that we go through this process with a lot of discipline and rigor, understand the mix of our membership, and the levers versus stairs as we go through this process. Thank you for the question. Next question, please. Next, we'll go to the line of Lisa Gill from J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.
Felicia Farr Norwood: <unk> understand the mix of our membership and the leverage versus steroids as we go through this process. Thank you for the question next question. Please.
Felicia Farr Norwood: Next we'll go to the line of Lisa Gill from Jpmorgan. Please go ahead.
Operator: Next, we'll go to the line of Lisa Gill from J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.
Thank you I was wondering if maybe you could talk about utilization trends by by line of business and what you saw in the quarter versus your expectation.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Lisa, thanks very much for the question. So utilization in the first quarter in our health benefits businesses was in line with our expectation, and that was reflected in our reported benefit expense ratio of approximately 85.6%. In the commercial business, specifically inpatient and outpatient authorization levels year to date were aligned with our expectations, and our internal year to go trend remains unchanged. On Medicare, as expected, we saw utilization related to both the two midnight rule for inpatient stays, as well as pockets of outpatient authorizations around, for example, radiology and cardiovascular procedures.
Lisa Christine Gill: Lisa Thanks, very much for the question so utilization in the first quarter in our health benefits businesses was in line with our expectation and that was reflected in our reported benefit expense ratio of approximately 85, 6%.
Lisa Christine Gill: In the commercial business, specifically inpatient and outpatient authorization levels at year to date were aligned with our expectations.
Internal year to go trend remains unchanged on Medicare as expected, we saw utilization related to both the two midnight rule inpatient stays.
Lisa Christine Gill: Well as pockets of outpatient authorizations around for example, at radiology and cardiovascular procedures and importantly, these trains were broadly planned for as part of our underlying cost trend assumptions.
Mark Bradley Kaye: And importantly, these trends were broadly planned for as part of our underlying cost trend assumptions. Medicaid, as you heard Felicia talk about a moment ago, did experience increased but state-specific utilization attributed to the redetermination mix impacts, and we remain very comfortable with what we're seeing there, given those ongoing constructive dialogues with the impacted states. And so overall, we remain confident that both our MA bids for 2024 and our commercial pricing really reflect the appropriate projections for utilization and medical costs.
Lisa Christine Gill: Medicaid as you heard it's finished talked about a moment ago did experienced increased but state specific utilization attributed to the redetermination mix impacts and we remain very comfortable with what we're seeing there given those ongoing constructive dialogues with the impacted states and so overall, we remain confident.
Both our MA bids for 2024, and our commercial pricing really reflect the appropriate predictions for utilization and medical cost trends.
Unknown Attendee: Next, we'll go to the line of Kevin Fischbeck from Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Speaker Change: Next question please.
Speaker Change: Next we'll go to the line of Kevin Fischbeck from Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Speaker Change: Yeah.
Unknown Attendee: Great, thanks. I'm just wondering if you know, it's not a huge increase in guidance, but I would love to kind of hear, you know, what was driving the increase in guidance. Is there something on the health plan side? Is it on the care alone side? And I guess just thoughts about how you thought about providing increases in guidance. It sounds like you believe that visibility is relatively high in claims, but obviously there's some concern there. So I don't know if there's any conservatism or thought about the pace of raises versus what you're actually seeing in the core business today.
Kevin Mark Fischbeck: Great. Thanks.
Kevin Mark Fischbeck: Just wondering if it's not it's not a huge increase in guidance, but would love to kind of here.
Kevin Mark Fischbeck: What was driving the increase in guidance is something on the health plan side is it Hum carillon side and I guess just thoughts about.
Kevin Mark Fischbeck: How you thought about providing increases again it sounds like you believe that visibility is relatively high in claims, but obviously, there's some concern there. So I don't know if there's any conservatism or thought about pace of raises versus what you're actually seeing in the core business today. Thanks.
Mark Bradley Kaye: We were pleased to report our adjusted diluted EPS this quarter, which came in slightly better than our seasonal expectation. And that was led by solid performance in both our health benefits and kill-on divisions, where operating margin increased by 30 basis points and 20 basis points, respectively, highlighting what we see as disciplined execution of our initiatives during a dynamic time for the industry. Of specific note, and you referenced this in your question, was the favorable performance in the first quarter benefit expense ratio, and that was driven by commercial margins that continue to recover from the pandemic error load.
We were pleased to report our adjusted diluted EPS this quarter, which came in slightly better than all seasonal expectation and that was led by solid performance in both our health benefits and Killen divisions, where operating margin increased by 30 basis points in 'twenty based.
Kevin Mark Fischbeck: Points, respectively highlighting.
Kevin Mark Fischbeck: Highlighting what we see as disciplined execution.
Kevin Mark Fischbeck: All of our initiatives during a dynamic time for the industry.
Kevin Mark Fischbeck: I have a specific note and you referenced this in your question was the favorable performance in the first quarter benefit expense ratio and that was driven by commercial margins that continued to recover from pandemic era lows.
Mark Bradley Kaye: We're very pleased with the Q1 results. It's still early in the year, and given our business is subject to some variability around medical cost trends, we're intentionally remaining thoughtful and prudent in our outlook. And that led us to increase our guide for adjusted EPS by $0.10 to be greater than $37. Next question, please. Next, we'll go to the line of wet mail from LaRing Partners; please go ahead. Hey, thanks. I just wanted to hear any comments on the external revenue growth with Carillon Services.
Kevin Mark Fischbeck: We're very pleased with the Q1 results. It is still early in the year and given our business is subject to some variability around medical cost trend, we're intentionally remaining thoughtful and prudent in our outlook and that led us to increase our guide for adjusted EPS by <unk> <unk> seems to be greater than $37 20.
Speaker Change: Next question please.
Speaker Change: Next we'll go to the line of Whit Mayo from Leerink partners. Please go ahead.
Whit Mayo: Hey, Thanks, just wanted to hear any comments on the external revenue growth with Caroline services did that grow faster than the overall segment. You did I think referenced some strong external growth. So curious what might be gaining traction in the market and then just a quick question on guidance, Mark you've averaged maybe 55% to 66%.
Unknown Attendee: Next, we'll go to the line of wet mail from LaRing Partners; please go ahead.
Peter David Haytaian: Great, why don't I have Pete address sort of the Caroline questions, and Mark will talk about the earnings percentage.
Whit Mayo: Earnings in the first half any reason that would be different this year. Thanks.
Peter David Haytaian: Yeah, thanks for the question. As it relates to Carol on external growth, you know, we continue to see really nice momentum in our build. I mean, for 2024, from an overall sales perspective, we've already exceeded what we did in all of 2023. And you heard, you know, Gail mentioned in her prepared remarks, several new wins, which we're really excited about, really growth across the portfolio with some notable wins in behavioral health. She mentioned winning a statewide Medicaid account in Maryland, which we're really excited about, and then some new innovative solutions with large employers as well as wins in the state of California.
Great why don't I have Pete addressed sort of the Caroline questions and Mark will talk about the earnings percentages peak.
Pete: Yeah. Thanks for the question with as it relates to Carol on external growth.
Pete: We continue to see a really nice momentum in our build I mean for 2020 for from an overall sales perspective, we've already this time of the year exceeded what we did in all of 2023 and you heard Gill mentioned in her.
Pete: Our prepared remarks, several new wins, which we're really excited about.
Pete: Really growth across the portfolio with some notable wins in behavioral health. She mentioned a winning a statewide account in Medicaid for Maryland, which we're really excited about and then some new innovative solutions with large employers as well as wins in the state of California and on the Paypal side also some select wins in the crisis space.
Peter David Haytaian: And on the behavioral health side, also some select wins in the crisis space. So areas that we've been, you know, really focused on. In addition to that, we've had some notable wins with the Blues related to our insights business. We've talked about this before, but it's really critical that we prove some of our risk arrangements and our differentiated capabilities in Elevance and then port those to the Blues. And we've seen that play out with a couple of notable wins.
Pete: So areas that we've been really focused on in addition to that we've had some notable wins with the blues unrelated to our insights business. We've talked about this before but it's really critical that we prove some of our risk arrangements and our differentiated capabilities in Alabama, and then port those to the blues and we've seen that play through with a cup.
Pete: Several notable wins lastly, I'd say, we're excited about the 25 pipeline, where we're obviously actively in the selling season of our pipeline is very rich and again I would say a large focus on our insights businesses as well as our behavioral health businesses.
Peter David Haytaian: Lastly, I'd say we're excited about the 25 pipeline. We're obviously actively in the selling season, and our pipeline is very rich. And again, I would say a large focus on our insights businesses, as well as our behavioral health business.
Mark Bradley Kaye: On your second question, the seasonality of the adjusted diluted EPS in 2024 is expected to be consistent with the past several years, with approximately 55% of earnings in the first half of the year. I also want to call out that workday seasonality, given it is a leap year, did result in a smaller than historically normal impact in the first quarter, but we expect the workday seasonality to put slightly more pressure on the third quarter MLR with an offsetting favorability in the fourth quarter as those workdays normalize.
Pete: On your second question the seasonality of the adjusted diluted EPS in 2024 is expected to be consistent with the past several years with approximately 55% of earnings in the first half of the year I also want to call out that workday seasonality given it is a leap year did result.
Pete: And a smaller than historically normal impact in the first quarter.
Pete: But we expect the workday seasonality to put slightly more pressure on the third quarter.
Pete: <unk> with an offsetting favorability than in the fourth quarter as those workdays mobilized.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Thanks Mark and thanks for the question Whit, and I just want to add to Pete's comments about just the momentum that we're seeing inside of Carillon. First, you know where our proof points are within Elevance Health and then, secondarily, we are now seeing some really nice momentum and traction externally, so thanks for the question and next question. Next, we'll go to the line of Nathan Rich from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Great. Good morning, and thanks for the questions. Gail, I wanted to follow up on your comments about the Medicare business.
Speaker Change: Thanks, Mark and thanks for the question Whit and I, just want to add to Pete's comments about just the momentum that we're seeing inside of Carillon first you know our proof points are we then elegance health and then secondarily now seeing some really nice momentum and traction externally. So thanks for the question next question. Please.
Speaker Change: Next we'll go to the line of Nathan Rich from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Nathan Allen Rich: Great Good morning, and thanks for the questions.
Nathan Allen Rich: Gil I wanted to follow up on your comments on the Medicare business and the goal of balancing growth and margins could you maybe just elaborate on that.
Unknown Attendee: Next, we'll go to the line of Nathan Rich from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Nathan Allen Rich: Given the tougher rate environment that you highlighted and I think the company has prioritized margin improvement in Medicare. This year does that kind of remain on track for 24 and do you expect to plan for further improvement in 2025.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Thanks for the question, Nathan. As I shared in my opening comments, first of all, the Medicare rate announcement, as you've heard, represents the second year of consecutive cuts to the program that will result in increased premiums and reduced benefits for seniors with disabilities, and particularly those that have really needed this program. Our approach is very consistent. We're going to continue to be disciplined in our approach to the Medicare business.
Gil: Thanks for the question Nathan.
Gil: As I shared in my opening comments I'm first of all the Medicare rate announcement.
Gil: As you've heard represents a second year of consecutive cuts of the program.
Gil: That we know will result in increased premiums and reduced benefits for seniors with disabilities, and particularly those that have really needed. This program.
Gil: Our approach is very consistent we're going to continue to be disciplined in our approach to the Medicare business.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Our focus is to achieve consistency, high-value competitive benefits, and balance growth and margins. You know, we're focused on building a sustainable, attractive, long-term business. It's too early to provide specifics for the 2025 bid at this stage, but again, I'm going to repeat, we're looking to really balance growth and margins. You know, as we talked about on our investor day, our focus is on keeping our members blue for life, and there we're focused on, particularly, our 14 blue states and continuing to prioritize the very significant business we have in DSNP, where our unique competitive advantage is serving the needs of those consumers with complex conditions.
Gil: Our focus is to get consistency high value competitive benefits and balanced growth and margins.
Gil: We're focused on building a sustainable attractive long term business.
Gil: It's too early to provide specifics of the 2025 bed at this stage, but again I'm going to repeat we're looking to really balanced growth in margins.
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Gil: As we talked about in our Investor day, our focus is on keeping our members blue for life and there we're focused on particularly our 14 blue states and continuing to prioritize the very significant business, we haven't D. SNP.
Gil: Our unique competitive advantage of serving the needs of those consumers with complex conditions. So overall, we're in the midst in the process right now.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: So overall, we're in the midst of the process right now, so we'll have more as we get through the bid process, but thank you very much for the question. Next question. Next we'll go to the line of Stephen Baxter from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead. Hi, thanks. I'm just interested. It seems like now you're talking about at least
Gil: So we'll have more as we get through the bid process, but thank you very much for the question.
Speaker Change: Next question please.
Speaker Change: Next we'll go to the line of Stephen Baxter from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Stephen C. Baxter: Hi, Thanks, just interested in it seems like now you're talking about and at least 12% EPS CAGR is your long term expectations in both the slides and the prepared remarks that obviously in the past you've talked about a 12% to 15% EPS growth CAGR target I'm, just wondering what if anything we should be reading into.
Unknown Attendee: Next, we'll go to the line for Stephen Baxter from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead. Hi, thanks.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Thank you very much for the question. You should see these two targets as synergistic. We remain firmly committed to achieving a long-term adjusted earnings per share CAGR of 12% to 15% through 2027, as we communicated at our Investor Day event last year. And then, as we think more broadly about the long term, we have confidence that through business cycles and over time, the earnings power of our health benefits and kill on flywheel will generate the momentum and the foundation that's needed to sustain a long-term compound annual growth rate of at Next question, please.
Speaker Change: Thank you.
Speaker Change: Thank you very much for the question you should see these two targets as synergistic we remain firmly committed to achieving a long term adjusted earnings per share CAGR of 12% to 15% through 2027.
Speaker Change: As we communicated at our Investor Day event last year, and then as we think more broadly around the long term, we have confidence that through business cycles and over time the earnings power of our health benefits and kill on flywheel will generate the momentum and the foundation that's needed to sustain a long term compound annual growth.
Speaker Change: Rate of at least 12%.
Speaker Change: Next question please.
Operator: Next, we'll go to the line of Sarah James from Cantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead. And Sarah, your line is open. Next, we'll go to the line of Andrew Mock from Barclays. Please go ahead.
Speaker Change: Next we'll go to the line of Sarah James from Cantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead.
Speaker Change: Yeah.
Sarah Elizabeth James: And Sir your line is open.
Sarah Elizabeth James: Next we'll go to the line of Andrew Mok from Barclays. Please go ahead.
Sarah Elizabeth James: Hi, Good morning, hoping you can give us an update on your transition of specialty scripts to bio plus and help us understand the contribution that that is expected to have this year. Thanks.
Unknown Attendee: Thanks; let me have Pete address your question.
Sarah Elizabeth James: Thanks, Let me ask Pete to address your question, yes. Thanks for the question Andrew.
Peter David Haytaian: Thanks for the question, Andrew. Listen, the integration of BioPlus is going well. As you know, we remain on an accelerated calendar regarding this. I'll just reiterate, we spent last year building out the infrastructure and the team, and we did begin migrating scripts in January of this year. And we're doing so, really, on a staged basis.
Pete: Listen the integration of bio pluses going well.
Pete: As you know, we we remain on an accelerated calendar regarding this.
Pete: I'll just reiterate we spent last year building out the infrastructure and the team and we did begin migrating scripts in January of this year.
Pete: And we're doing so really on a stage basis. So we'll continue to do that Mike gave migration throughout 'twenty four and into 2025 as it relates to the element itself book of business.
Peter David Haytaian: So we'll continue to do the migration throughout 24 and into 2025 as it relates to the Elevance Health book of business. I'd say, overall, things are going well. The infrastructure build is going well. In addition to the BioPlus dispensing facilities that are in place, we're live with one additional facility now as we speak, and we have two more going live this year. So we feel very good about the capacity, not only with respect to the Elevance Health business but business beyond that. So we're excited. We're on a path. And, again, it will be staged throughout 24 and 25.
Pete: I'd say overall things are going well the infrastructure build is going well. In addition to the bio plus dispensing facilities that were in place were live with one additional facility now as we speak and we have two more going live. This year. So we feel very good about the capacity not only with respect to the <unk> health business.
Pete: <unk> business beyond that so we're excited we're on a path.
Pete: Again, it will be staged throughout 'twenty, four and 'twenty five.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: In addition, I'll just add to what Pete said to BioPlus. As you know, we also announced the acquisition of Kroger Specialty Pharmacy, and that is also well-aligned to Caroline's effort to control those levers that matter. So thank you for the question. Next question, please.
Speaker Change: Yeah. In addition, I'll just add to what Pete said to bio plus as you know, we also announced the acquisition of Kroger specialty pharmacy and that is also well aligned.
Speaker Change: To caroline's effort to control those levers that matter. So next thank you for the question next question. Please.
Speaker Change: Yeah.
Unknown Attendee: Next, we'll go to the line of George Hill from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.
Speaker Change: Next we'll go to the line of George Hill from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.
Unknown Attendee: Hey, good morning, guys, and thanks for taking the question. I ask Gail, first, I'd like to follow up on Dave's question on Medicaid, and I guess, can you talk about where you think we are in the kind of where in, I guess, in the calendar, in the mix of rate determinations versus acuity mix and kind of, I guess, I'm trying to get a sense for how far behind do you think the kind of the rate repricings are versus the changes in acuity mix from redeterminations?
George Robert Hill: Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question I asked scale first I'd like to follow up on Dave's question on Medicaid and I guess can you talk about where you think we are in the kind of were in and I guess on the calendar and the mix of rate determinations.
George Robert Hill: Versus a.
George Robert Hill: Acuity mix and kind of I guess I'm trying to get a sense for how far behind you think the kind of the rate repricing Saar versus the changes in acuity mix, some redetermination and given that you just talked about specialty I'd love. It. If you could just add a comment on the Kroger deal and if you expect those scripts to transfer over to bio plus and how you think about the stickiness of those scripts.
Unknown Attendee: And given that you just talked about specialty, I'd love it if you could just add a comment on the Kroger deal and if you expect those scripts to transfer over to BioPlus and how you think about the stickiness of those scripts.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Yeah, George, I think Felicia pretty much covered your question, which is, you know, we think things are quite aligned at this point. So in terms of the acuity in the mix, everything, you know, we have visibility into 75% of our Medicaid premiums.
Speaker Change: Yeah, George I think.
Speaker Change: So it should pretty much covered your question, which is.
Speaker Change: I think things are quite aligned at this point so in terms of the acuity and the next everything now we have visibility into 75% of our Medicaid premiums, we've had very constructive discussions with our states.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: We've had very constructive discussions with our states. So overall, we feel things are lining up. They're actuarially sound, and our conversations are ongoing. So I feel very good about our Medicaid business, just to sort of put a finer point on that. In terms of Kroger, I'm going to ask Pete to comment on Kroger and how that's going to align with our broader pharmacy business. Yeah, George, thanks.
Speaker Change: So overall, we feel things are lining up they're actuarially sound and our conversations are ongoing so feel very good about our Medicaid business just to sort of put a finer point on that in terms of program and ask Pete to comment on Kroger and how that's going to align with our broader pharmacy business yes.
Peter David Haytaian: Yeah, George, thanks for the question on Kroger. And as Gail alluded to it, we're excited about this deal. It furthers the Carillon and the pharmacy strategy. It certainly is a natural extension of our recent arrangement with BioPlus. And just to give you some background, Kroger Specialty Pharmacy is the largest non-payer-owned specialty pharmacy.
Yeah, George Thanks for the question on Kroger and as Gail alluded to it we're excited about this deal.
Pete: It furthers the Carolina Pharmacy strategy, certainly is a natural extension of our recent.
Pete: The arrangement with bio plus and just to give you some some background corporates.
Pete: Kroger specialty pharmacy is the largest non payer one specialty pharmacy, they do about 500000 scripts a year.
Peter David Haytaian: They do about 500,000 scripts a year. And it really is a natural complement to what we're doing with both BioPlus and Paragon, quite frankly. To give you a sense of what this is going to do for us, it's going to add meaningful scale. It increases our access to more LDDs, limited distribution drugs, which is very important. And it certainly strengthens our relationship with manufacturers, enabling us to really provide greater affordability and quality
Pete: And it really is a natural complement to what we're doing with both bio plus N Paragon quite frankly.
Pete: But to give you a sense of what this is going to do for US is can add meaningful scale. It increases our access to more Leds distribution drugs, which is a very important certainly strengthens our relationship with manufacturers, enabling us to really provide greater.
Pete: Affordability and quality.
Peter David Haytaian: And, in fact, it has a nice presence in Puerto Rico, which could be very helpful to our MMM business. You know, as it relates to your question on the transition of scripts, we feel very good about that. I mean, obviously, in this case, with specialty pharmacy, providers and members have choice.
Pete: And in fact that has a nice presence in Puerto Rico, which could be very helpful to our mmm business.
Pete: As it relates to your question on transition of scripts, we feel very good about that I mean, obviously in this case with specialty pharmacy providers and members have choice, but we feel very good about the execution model, we feel very good about the stickiness.
Peter David Haytaian: But we feel very good about the execution model. We feel very good about the stickiness of the scripts. And we believe the integration and the transition will be straightforward. We expect the arrangement to likely close in Q3 or Q4 this year. Next question, please. Next, we'll go to the line of Scott Fidel from Stevens. Please go ahead. Hi, thanks. I'm just interested if we could double click on the Caroline services margins in the first quarter with the 90 basis points of
Pete: Of the scripts and we believe the integration and the transition will be straightforward. We expect the arrangements will likely close in Q3 Q4 of this year.
Speaker Change: Next question please.
Speaker Change: Next we'll go to the line of Scott Fidel from Stephens. Please go ahead.
Scott J. Fidel: Alright. Thanks.
Scott J. Fidel: Like I said, if we could double click on the Carolina services margins.
Scott J. Fidel: The first quarter with the 90 basis points of expansion.
Scott J. Fidel: Anything specifically that you would call out there and then that pacing does seem to be quite a bit stronger than the full year guidance, where you had sort of called for a flattish to down 30 basis points. So curious whether you have any updates for us just on how you expect carillon services margins to trend for the full year. Thanks.
Unknown Attendee: Next, we'll go to the line of Scott Fidel from Stevens. Please go ahead.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Thank you very much for the question. Margins were better than expected in the first quarter, and that aligned very well with very strong revenue growth in the quarter, given the launch of several new internal risk deals, which we expect to accelerate as the year goes on. We're not seeking to update our full-year guidance at this time, given that both the seasonality of the business continues to evolve as we expand our risk-based revenue and the timing of new product launches is anticipated to result in some transitory quarterly volatility. But I'll turn it over to Pete for a couple minutes to talk about what we're doing. Yeah, no, it's not.
Speaker Change: Thank you very much for the question the margins were better than expected in the first quarter and it aligns very well to a very strong revenue growth in the quarter given the launch of several new internal where risk deals, which we expect to accelerate as the year goes on we're not seeking to update our full year guidance at this time.
Speaker Change: Given that both the seasonality of the business continues to evolve as we expand our risk base revenue and the timing of new product launches is anticipated to result in some transitory quarterly volatility, but let me turn it over to Pete for a couple of minutes to talk about what we're doing.
Peter David Haytaian: Yeah, no, it's appreciated, and Mark's really covered it, but think about it this way. We are launching some pretty significant risk arrangements this year. We've talked about it, but a full risk arrangement in oncology, a full risk arrangement with the seriously mentally ill, and you should think about this as a natural cadence to launching this throughout the year, and that's what's going to impact the margin. So, for example, with the seriously mentally ill, we're doing this largely with the Medicaid business. It's going to be a big bang across all the Medicaid states immediately, as you'd expect. But it's more methodical state by state in 24 and 25.
Pete: Yeah no it's.
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Pete: Risk arrangements this year.
Pete: You've talked about it but a full risk arrangement in oncology a full risk arrangement with a seriously mentally ill and you should think about this as a natural cadence to launching this throughout the year and that's what's going to impact the margin. So for example, with the seriously mentally ill. We're doing this largely with the Medicaid business, it's not a big Bang across all of the Medicaid States immediately.
Pete: As you would expect it's more methodical state by state in 'twenty, four and 'twenty five.
Operator: Next question, please. Next, we'll go to the line of Justin Lake from Wolf Research. Please go ahead. Thanks. Good morning. There are some significant changes coming in
Speaker Change: Next question please.
Speaker Change: Next we'll go to the line of Justin Lake from Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.
Thanks, Good morning, there was some significant changes coming.
Justin Lake: Part D space for 2025 was curious as to your view on what that could mean for premiums.
Unknown Attendee: Next, we'll go to the line of Justin Lake from Wolf Research. Please go ahead.
Felicia Farr Norwood: I'm going to have Felicia address that. So, good morning, Justin, and thank you for the question. There are significant changes coming for 2025, and I'll say this. It's early to provide specifics around what our 2025 strategy is going to be, but as Gail mentioned before, we are going to make sure that we have a very balanced approach as we think about the margins around our Medicare business and focus on those things that we believe bring the highest value to our members as we really work to make sure we have a competitive product in market that meets the needs of those members that we're trying to serve with a lot of dynamic changes that are going on in the Medicare environment for 2025.
Justin Lake: Just maybe you could tell us where you think kind of industry premiums are this year and warehouse.
Justin Lake: Again that increase could be for 2025.
Justin Lake: I'm going to ask Felicia address that so good morning, Justin and thank you for the question. There are a significant changes coming for 2025 and I'll say. This it is early to provide specifics around what our 2025 strategy is going to be but as Gil mentioned before we.
Felicia Farr Norwood: We're going to make sure that we have a very balanced approach as we think about the margins around our Medicare business and focus on those things that we believe bring the highest value to our members as we really work to make sure we have a competitive product and market that meets the needs of those members that were trying to serve with a loud.
Speaker Change: Dynamic changes that are going on in the Medicare admirer meant for 2025. So thank you for the question next question. Please.
Unknown Attendee: So, thank you for the question. Next question. Next, we'll go to the line from Anne Hines from Mizzou Ho. Please go ahead. Yeah, thank you. Congratulations on retaining the Florida contract, but it looks like you're actually gaining.
Speaker Change: Next we'll go to the line of Ann Hynes from Mizuho. Please go ahead.
Ann Hynes: Thank you and congrats on retaining the Florida contract, but it looks like you're actually gaining market share can you. Let us know the membership growth and also looking ahead over the next couple of years is there any big state renewal risks for Alabama, and Alternatively is there any big RFP opportunities for you.
Operator: Next, we'll go to the line of Anne Hines from Mizzou. Please go ahead.
Felicia Farr Norwood: So, good morning, Anne, and thank you. We are certainly very pleased with the results in Florida. It's a state that we have been partnering in for a long period of time, but certainly, the win here allows us to expand our footprint and additionally serve some complex populations, particularly SMI, which will be a very much kind of a collaboration with our Caroline Services business. So, very excited about that.
Speaker Change: So good morning, and thank you we are certainly very pleased with the results in Florida.
Speaker Change: The state that we have been partnering in for a long period of time, but certainly that the win here allows us to expand our footprint and Additionally served some complex populations, particularly as semi which will be very much up kind of a collaboration with our Carolina services business. So.
Speaker Change: We're excited about that.
Felicia Farr Norwood: We are also very focused on our Virginia Go Live, which is coming up in July as well, so a lot of work is happening there. And outstanding at this point is certainly Georgia, where we will be defending our procurement with respect to our core business, as well as our foster care business in the state of Georgia. And we feel very good about the work that we continue to do there in partnership with the state.
Speaker Change: We are also very focused on our continued go live which is coming up in July as well. So a lot of work happening there outstanding at this point, it's certainly, Georgia, where we will be defending our procurement with respect to our core business as well as our foster care business in the state of Georgia and feel very good about the work that we continue to do there in <unk>.
Speaker Change: <unk> shipped with the state.
Felicia Farr Norwood: In addition, we are very much focused on a couple of new geographies where we are bidding this year, and look forward to hearing the results. But on top of that, the states are very much focused on specialty populations, and we see that as an opportunity for growth as we go forward. You know, Medicaid is a very important business for us. Our recent RFP wins, I think, demonstrate the value that we bring to our state partners but, more importantly, the improvement in quality and outcomes that we are providing to Medicaid beneficiaries. So, thank you very much for the question. Next question.
Speaker Change: In addition, we are very much focused on a couple of new geographies, where we are bidding this.
Speaker Change: This year and look forward to hearing those results, but on top of that the states are very much focused on specialty populations and we see that as the opportunity for growth as we go forward.
Speaker Change: Medicaid is a very important business for us our recent RFP wins, I think demonstrates the value that we bring to our state partners, but more importantly, the improvement in quality and outcomes that we are providing to Medicaid beneficiary. So thank you very much for the question.
Unknown Attendee: Next, we'll go to the line of Gary Taylor from TD Cowan. Please go ahead.
Speaker Change: Next question please.
Speaker Change: Next we'll go to the line of Gary Taylor from TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Unknown Attendee: Hi, good morning. Two quick ones for me.
Gary Paul Taylor: Hi, Good morning, two quick ones for me I, just wanted to come back to Medicaid for a second I mean, it's obvious your commercial book is doing very well, but you had expected Medicaid margins to come.
Unknown Attendee: I just wanted to come back to Medicaid for a second. I mean, it's obvious your commercial book is doing very well, but you had expected Medicaid margins to come. Down this year, but you're saying the rates, the rate adjustments you're getting are actuarially sound for the acuity changes. So should we think about the lower Medicaid margins this year, primarily just the deleveraging of the OpEx impact of losing revenue and enrollment and that MLR is going to be fairly stable?
Gary Paul Taylor: Down this year, but you're saying the rates the rate adjustments, you're getting are actuarially sound for the acuity changes so should we think about the <unk>.
Gary Paul Taylor: Lower Medicaid margins this year, primarily just the deleveraging.
Speaker Change: Deleveraging the opex impact of losing the revenue and enrollment in the MLR is going to be fairly stable and then just my second question was.
Unknown Attendee: And then just my second question was, you know, Mark made this comment, and John made this comment for years about how days claims payable would eventually come down into the low 40s. That's a lot of inherent or embedded earnings power that could come through the P&L at some point over time. Can you give us any sort of sense of what, you know, the long term means in terms of seeing the reserves move lower?
Speaker Change: Mark made this comment John made this comment for years about how day's claims payable would eventually come down into the low fourteens that that's a lot of inherent our embedded earnings power that could come through the P&L at some point over time can you can you give us any sort of sense of what long term means in terms of seeing there.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Gary, good morning, and thank you for the questions. Let me start maybe with the margins, and let me bring it up to the health benefits business segment first. So in terms of health benefits, the margins this quarter were very much in line with our expectations. It puts us, you know, squarely on track to achieve our guidance for the full year of an increase between 25 and 50 basis points.
Speaker Change: Serves to move lower.
Speaker Change: Gary Good morning, and thank you for the question, let me start maybe with the margins and let me bring it up to the health benefits business segment.
Gary Paul Taylor: To talk about first so in terms of health benefits. The margins. This quarter were very much in line with our expectations. It puts us squarely on track to achieve our guidance for the full year of an increase between 25 and 50 basis points not looking necessarily to comment on a single business is margin.
Mark Bradley Kaye: I'm not necessarily looking to comment on a single business's margin, but you could expect Medicaid margins to normalize, given we already have a line of sight, and you heard Felicia talk about this, into approximately 75% of the Medicaid premiums for 2024, and that we are comfortable with the actuarial soundness of the rates that we are seeing. Over the long term, Medicaid continues to normalize, as we spoke about last quarter, and it is performing as expected.
Gary Paul Taylor: But you could expect Medicaid margins to normalize.
Gary Paul Taylor: Given we already have line of sight, you had felicia to talk about this into approximately 75% of the Medicaid premiums for 2024 and that we are comfortable with the actuarial soundness of the rates that we are seeing them.
Gary Paul Taylor: Over the long term Medicaid continues to normalize as we spoke about last quarter and it is performing as expected.
Mark Bradley Kaye: On DCP for 2024, if we look out through the end of the year, we anticipate remaining in the mid to upper 40s range, given Medicaid membership is expected to decline to within our guidance range of 8.8 to 9.2 million members. And as you know, Medicaid has a slightly lower relative DCP compared to commercial, for example. And then over time, to reiterate the guidance, we do expect, over the long term, DCPs to return to that more normalized range in the low 40s.
Gary Paul Taylor: On the DCP for 2024, if we look out through the end of the year.
Gary Paul Taylor: Anticipating remaining in the mid to upper Forty's range, given Medicaid membership is expected to decline to within our guidance range of $8 eight to $9 2 million members and as you know in many cases, a slightly lower relative DCP compared to a commercial for example, and then over time.
Gary Paul Taylor: To reiterate the guidance, we do expect over the long term of Dcp's to return to that more normalized range in the low forties. Thank.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Thank you, Mark. One more question, please. And for our final question, we'll go to the line of Sarah James from Cantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead. Thank you. I just wanted to clarify a couple of things. One on the reserve boost, are you saying the 1.7 days is
Thank you Mark one more question please.
Gary Paul Taylor: And for our final question will go to the line of Sarah James from Cantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead.
Sarah Elizabeth James: Thank you I just wanted to clarify a couple of things one on the reserve this or do you think that one seven days.
Sarah Elizabeth James: Is fully related to conservatism.
B a change because that seems like a about a 600 dollar reserve space to us I wanted to see if there was any other factors in that one seven days.
Unknown Attendee: And for our final question, we'll go to the line of Sarah James from Cantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead.
Sarah Elizabeth James: And second could you give us a sense of your Medicaid rate seasonality like what percent of your book renews in <unk> versus <unk> versus <unk>.
Mark Bradley Kaye: On your first question, the sequential increase in days in claims payable, a quarterly result of 1.7 days, is primarily related to the change in health care. I just want to maybe make one clarification around this.
Speaker Change: On your on your first question the sequential increase in days in claims payable at quarter result of 1.7 days is primarily related to the change healthcare.
Speaker Change: I just want to maybe one clarification around this it's worth noting that neither the decrease in claims receipts that we sold during the quarter. All the reserve accrual that we took related to change healthcare had any discernible impact on our benefit expense ratio of P&L and that's because we believe the reserve represents an amount you would otherwise have.
Mark Bradley Kaye: It's worth noting that neither the decrease in claims receipts that we saw during the quarter nor the reserve accrual that we took related to changing health care had any discernible impact on our benefit expense ratio or P&L. And that's because we believe the reserve represents an amount we would otherwise have paid had there been no disruption. So you should think about this as, overall, for the quarter, incurred claims are completely consistent with our expectations.
Speaker Change: Paid had there'd be no disruption. So you should think about this is overall for the quarter incurred claims are completely consistent with our expectations. Given some of the notes that came out. This morning I also would like to just reiterate that we do expect operating cash flow to be at least $8 1 billion for the full year and reiterating our earlier guidance.
Mark Bradley Kaye: Given some of the comments that came out this morning, I also would like to just reiterate that we do expect operating cash flow to be at least $8.1 billion for the full year, reiterating our earlier guidance.
Felicia Farr Norwood: And Sarah, just on your question, with respect to our Medicaid states and when our rates are up for renewal, we have, you know, roughly 10 states that renew in January, another state that renews in April, another nine that renew in July, and then the last two renew in the back half of the year in September and October.
Speaker Change: Yeah.
Speaker Change: And in theory, just send your question with respect to our Medicaid States and between our rates are up for renewal, we have roughly 10 states that renew in January.
Speaker Change: Another state that renews in April another nine that renew in July and then the last two.
Speaker Change: Renew in the back half of the year in September and October.
Gail Koziara Boudreaux: Well, thank you very much for your questions. Just in some closing thoughts, we're very pleased to be off to a solid start this year. And we're confident, as you heard, that the ongoing execution of our strategy and the balance and resilience of our diverse set of businesses positions us well for 2024 and beyond. We're very excited about the future and look forward to sharing more on our progress with you in the coming year. Thank you for your interest in Elevance Health and have a great rest of your day.
Speaker Change: Well, thank you very much for your questions.
Speaker Change: And some closing thoughts were very pleased to be off to a solid start this year and we're confident as you heard in the ongoing execution of our strategy and the balance and resilience of our diverse set of businesses positions us well for 2024 and beyond.
Speaker Change: We're excited about the future and look forward to sharing more on our progress with you in the coming year. Thank you for your interest in elegance health and have a great rest of your week.
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