Q1 2024 Select Water Solutions Inc Earnings Call

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Christopher K. George: Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us on the Select Water Solutions conference call and webcast to review our financial and operational results for the first quarter of 2024. With me today are John Schmitz, our founder, chairman, president, and CEO, and Michael Skarke, executive vice president, chief operating officer. Before I turn the call over to John, I have a few housekeeping items to cover. A replay of today's call will be available by webcast and accessible from our website at selectwater.com. There will also be a recorded telephonic replay available until May 15th, 2024.

Christopher K. George: Thank you operator, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us for select water solutions conference call and webcast to review, our financial and operational results for the first quarter of 2024.

Christopher K. George: With me today are John Schmitz, our founder Chairman, President and CEO, and Michael <unk> Executive Vice President Chief operating Officer.

Christopher K. George: The access information for this replay was also included in yesterday's earnings. Please note that the information reported on this call speaks only as of today, May 1, 2024, and therefore time-sensitive information may no longer be accurate as of the time of the replay listening or transcript. In addition, the comments made by management during this conference call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the United States federal securities law. These forward-looking statements reflect the current views of SELECT's management. However, various risks, uncertainties, and contingencies could cause our actual results, performance, or achievements to differ materially from those expressed in these statements by many.

Christopher K. George: Before I turn the call over to John I have a few housekeeping items to cover a replay of today's call will be available by webcast and accessible from our website at select water Dot com.

Christopher K. George: There will also be a recorded telephonic replay available until May 15, 2020 for the access information for this replay was also included in yesterday's earnings release.

John: Please note that the information reported on this call speaks only as of today may 1st 'twenty 'twenty four and therefore time sensitive information may no longer be accurate as of the time of the replay listening or transcript reading.

John: In addition, the comments made by management. During this conference call may contain forward looking statements within the meaning of the United States Federal Securities laws.

John: These forward looking statements reflect the current views of select management.

John: However, various risks uncertainties and contingencies could cause our actual results performance or achievements to differ materially from those expressed in the statements by management.

Christopher K. George: The listener is encouraged to read our annual report on Form 10-K, our current reports on Form 8-K, as well as our quarterly reports on Form 10-Q to understand those risks, uncertainties, and conditions. Please refer to our earnings announcement released yesterday for reconciliations of non-GAAP finances. As a reminder, the company made certain changes to its segment reporting structure during the second quarter of 2020. These changes were driven by several operational and strategic factors.

John: The listener is encouraged to read our annual report on Form 10-K, our current reports on form 8-K, as well as our quarterly reports on Form 10-Q to understand those risks uncertainties and contingencies.

John: Please refer to our earnings announcement released yesterday for reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures.

John: As a reminder, the company made certain changes to its segment reporting structure during the second quarter of 2023.

John: These changes were driven by several operational and strategic factors. However, the changes in segment reporting had no impact on the company's historical consolidated financial position results of operations or cash flows.

Christopher K. George: However, the changes in segment reporting had no impact on the company's historical consolidated financial position, results of operations, or cash. Prior periods have been recast to include the water sourcing and temporary water logistics operations within the water services segment and remove the results of those operations from the water infrastructure. Historical segment information recast to conform to the new reporting structure is available as supplemental financial information in the investors section of the company's website at investors.selectwater.com.

John: Her periods have been recast to include the water sourcing and temporary water logistics operations within the water services segment and remove the results of those operations from the water infrastructure segment.

John: Historical segment information recast to conform to the new reporting structure as available as supplemental financial information in the investors section of the company's website at investors about select water Dot com.

Christopher K. George: Please refer to the company's current report on Form 8K filed with the SEC concurrently with our earnings release for additional information. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to our founder, chairman, president, and CEO, John Schmitz.

John: Please refer to the company's current report on form 8-K filed with the SEC concurrent with our earnings release for additional information.

John: Now I'd like to turn the call over to our founder Chairman President and CEO John Schmitz.

John D. Schmitz: Thanks Chris. Good morning, and thank you for joining us. I'm pleased to be discussing Select Water Solutions again with you today. It's been a very busy start to 2024. Overall, the business performed well during the first quarter, and we sit here in a strong position heading into quarter two. Highlights of the first quarter included growing revenues and margins in both the water infrastructure and chemical technology segments, which supported sequential improvements in the consolidated gross margin and adjusted EBITDA, which came in ahead of our expectations.

John D. Schmitz: Thanks, Chris Good morning, and thank you for joining us I'm pleased to be discussing select water solutions again with you today.

John D. Schmitz: It's been a very busy start to 2024 overall the business performed well during the first quarter and we sit here in a strong position.

John D. Schmitz: Heading into quarter two.

John D. Schmitz: Highlights of the first quarter included growing revenues and margins in both the water infrastructure and chemical technology segments.

John D. Schmitz: Which supported sequential improvements in the consolidated gross margin and adjusted EBITDA, which came in ahead of our expectations.

John D. Schmitz: I'm especially pleased with the continual progress we have made toward the execution of our water infrastructure growth strategy. In addition to the three previous announced acquisitions in the Hainesville and Rockies regions that we closed in January, we completed additional acquisitions in the Permian and Bakken regions in March and April. Each of these acquisitions demonstrates our ability to execute on strategic but value-oriented opportunities to efficiently expand our infrastructure network across our geographic footprint.

John D. Schmitz: I'm, especially pleased with the continued progress we have made toward the execution of our water infrastructure growth strategy.

John D. Schmitz: In addition to the three previously announced acquisitions in the Haynesville and the Rockies regions that we closed in January we completed additional acquisitions in the Permian and Bakken regions in March and April each of these acquisitions demonstrates our ability to execute on strategy strategic.

John D. Schmitz: Jake but value oriented opportunities to efficiently expand our infrastructure network across the geographic footprint.

John D. Schmitz: With the recent Trinity acquisitions, we are adding more than 600,000 barrels per day of permitted disposal capacity, primarily in the Permian Basin, across 24 active disposal wells and nine additional disposal permits available for future development. This acquisition adds critical disposal capacity in both the Midland and Delaware basins, an area with some of our most robust growth opportunities. And with nearly 100 miles of gathering pipelines already integrated in the acquired assets, we have significant optionality and development potential to integrate these assets with our existing Permian infrastructure network.

John D. Schmitz: With the recent Trinity acquisitions, we are adding more than 600000 barrels per day of permitted disposal capacity, primarily in the Permian basin across 24 active disposal wells and nine additional disposal permits available for future development.

John D. Schmitz: This acquisition adds critical disposal capacity in both the Midland and Delaware basins and area with some of our most robust growth opportunities.

John D. Schmitz: And with the nearly 100 miles of gathering pipelines already integrated in the acquired assets, we have significant optionality and development potential to integrate these assets with our existing Permian infrastructure networks. Despite.

John D. Schmitz: Disposal remains a necessary component of an efficient, full lifecycle infrastructure solution, and these disposal assets will strengthen our ability to develop efficient and creative solutions for our customers. Additionally, we have continued to add to our solids waste management solutions as well, with four of the five acquisitions so far this year contributing additional assets to our waste solution capabilities. With Trinity, we have added an additional slurry well in the Gulf Coast region that adds scale to our solids waste management business in East Texas alongside the solids treatment and disposal assets and operations we acquired from Tri-State and Iron Mountain in January.

John D. Schmitz: Disposal remains a necessary component of an efficient full lifecycle infrastructure solution and these disposal assets will strengthen our ability to develop efficient and creative solutions for our customers.

John D. Schmitz: Additionally, we have continued to add to our solid waste management solutions as well with four of the five acquisitions. So far this year contributing an additional assets to our waste solution capabilities.

John D. Schmitz: With Trinity, we have added additional slurry well in the Gulf Coast region that adds scale to our solid waste management business and.

John D. Schmitz: In East, Texas, alongside the solids treatment and disposal assets and operations, we acquired from Tri State and Iron Mountain in January.

John D. Schmitz: In addition, with Buckhorn, we acquired two solid waste landfills in the Bakken with nearly 400,000 tons of annual capacity and more than 50 years of remaining potential useful life. These facilities are strategically located in North Dakota and Montana and add significant additional capacity to our existing landfill operations in the basin. Importantly, this acquisition also expands the scope of our service capabilities through the addition of a Class II landfill, one of the very few active T-norm disposal facilities in the U.S., as well as a Class I industrial waste disposal permit, presenting additional opportunities for future development.

John D. Schmitz: Separately with backhaul and we acquired two solid waste landfills in the Bakken with nearly 400000 tonnes of annual capacity and more than 50 years of remaining potential useful life.

John D. Schmitz: These facilities are strategically located in North Dakota, and Montana and add significant.

John D. Schmitz: Additional capacity to our existing landfill operations in the basin.

John D. Schmitz: Importantly, this acquisition also expands the scope of our service capabilities through the addition of a class two landfill one of the very few active teen norm disposal facilities in the U S as well as class one industrial waste disposal permit presenting additional opportunity.

John D. Schmitz: As for future development.

John D. Schmitz: We believe the addition of the Buckhorn assets will also help us enhance the revenue and margin profile of our existing landfill operations with integrated logistics and enhanced customer relationships. These facilities allow Select to further capture the full water and waste lifecycle of our customers' operations, including environmental management and downstream remediation.

John D. Schmitz: We believe the addition of the Buckhorn assets will also help us enhance the revenue and margin profile of our existing landfill operations with the integrated logistics and enhance customer relationships.

John D. Schmitz: These facilities allow for select to further capture the full water and waste lifecycle of our customers' operations, including environmental management and downstream remediation.

John D. Schmitz: I'd also highlight that with both Trinity and Buckhorn, we are also adding lean, but very high-performing operational teams with decades of experience in disposal and waste management solutions, and I welcome these new employees into the Select family. Meanwhile, while we continue to grow our water infrastructure business through acquisitions. We also continue to grow through the Organic Business Development Execution. During the first quarter, we signed four additional long-term contracts for new pipeline gathering, recycling, and disposal projects that will integrate directly into our existing infrastructure in Hainesville and Permian.

John D. Schmitz: I'd also highlight that we have both Trinity and buy corn. We are also adding lane, but very high performing operational teams with decades of experience and disposal and waste management solution and I welcome. These new employees into the select family.

John D. Schmitz: While we continue to grow our water infrastructure business.

John D. Schmitz: Acquisitions.

John D. Schmitz: We also continue to grow through the organic business development execution.

John D. Schmitz: During the first quarter, we signed four additional long term contracts for new pipeline gathering recycling and disposal projects that will integrate directly into our existing infrastructure in the haynesville in the Permian.

John D. Schmitz: Each of these contracts can be tied directly to the strength of our existing networks in these regions, including from the recently acquired asset in each base. While we have been quite active this year, we remain attentive to every dollar of capital we deploy and continue to prioritize capital to the most strategic areas of our business, especially where we have the most opportunity to integrate full life cycle water infrastructure and waste management solutions around our existing asset base or add proprietary applications of automation, chemistry, or recycling technology.

John D. Schmitz: Each of these contracts can be tied directly to the strength of our existing that works in these regions, including from the recently acquired asset in each basin.

John D. Schmitz: While we have been quite active this year, we remain attentive to every dollar of capital, we deploy and continue to prioritize capital to the most strategic area of our business, especially where we have the most opportunity to integrate full lifecycle water infrastructure.

John D. Schmitz: And waste management solutions around our existing asset base.

John D. Schmitz: Or add proprietary application of automation chemistry, a recycling technologies.

John D. Schmitz: And as demonstrated by the breadth of our recent acquisitions and projects I believe slacks operation and geographic diversity is one of our core strengths and competitive competitive differentiators.

John D. Schmitz: As demonstrated by the breadth of our recent acquisitions and projects, I believe Select's operation and geographic diversity is one of our core strengths and competitive differentiators. It also provides us with a wide array of capital allocation prospects that allows us to make the best decisions to drive long-term shareholder value.

John D. Schmitz: It also provides us with a wide array of capital allocation prospects that allows us to make the best decision to drive long term shareholder value.

John D. Schmitz: Importantly, each acquisition and project we've executed this year fits our strategy to grow and expand our production-based and long-term contracted revenue within our water infrastructure segment. We are well positioned to continue to strengthen the contractual relationships we have with our customers and expand the scope of our end-to-end water services and chemical solutions that we've been able to provide around the infrastructure base. Our recent organic recycle and disposal infrastructure projects have delivered strong performance, as seen in the meaningful margin improvement in the water infrastructure segment during the first quarter.

John D. Schmitz: Importantly, each acquisition and project we've executed this year fits our strategy to grow and expand our production base and long term contracted revenue within our water infrastructure segment.

John D. Schmitz: We are well positioned to continue to strengthen the contractual relationship we have with our customers and expand the scope of our end to end water services in chemical solutions that we're been able to provide around the infrastructure base.

John D. Schmitz: Our recent organic recycle and disposal infrastructure projects have delivered strong performance.

John D. Schmitz: And the meaningful margin improvement in the water infrastructure segment during the first quarter.

John D. Schmitz: I am very confident in our remaining multi-year backlog for both Greenfield and Brownfield infrastructure projects. We've seen this backlog more than double over the last two quarters, providing visibility into continuing expansion opportunities well into next year, and I'm very excited to add the newly acquired assets to our future business development planning as well. From a customer standpoint, we continue to see consolidation in the NP space. We believe this will drive continued demand for more sophisticated and comprehensive water management and waste solutions.

John D. Schmitz: I am very confident in our remaining multiyear backlog for both Greenfield and brownfield infrastructure projects. We've seen this backlog more than double over the last two quarters, providing visibility into continuing expansion opportunities well into next year and I'm very excited to add the newly acquired.

John D. Schmitz: Quired assets into our future business development planning as well.

John D. Schmitz: From a customer standpoint, we continue to see consolidation in the E&P space.

John D. Schmitz: We believe this will drive continued demand for more sophisticated and comprehensive water management and waste solutions.

John D. Schmitz: While we often find ourselves working for customers on both sides of the larger deals, we have generally aligned ourselves with the industry consolidators and have an extensive business development backlog in place to meet the needs of their growing infrastructure demand. Chris will touch on the first quarter's financial performance in more detail, but I'm proud of the continued outstanding results our team is achieving during this period of changing industry trends. We will continue to generate a strong return on assets and return capital to our shareholders while investing in and growing the business. At this point, I'll hand it over to Chris to speak to our first quarter financial results and remaining 2024 outlook in a bit more detail. Chris?

John D. Schmitz: While we oftentimes find ourselves working for both customers on both sides of the larger deals we have generally aligned ourselves with the industry consolidators and have an extensive business development backlog in place to meet the needs of their growing infrastructure demands.

John D. Schmitz: Chris will touch on the first quarter's financial performance in more detail, but I'm proud of the continued outstanding results. Our team is achieving during the period of changing industry trends.

John D. Schmitz: We will continue to generate a strong return on assets and return capital to our shareholders, while investing in and growing the business.

John D. Schmitz: At this point I'll hand, it over to Chris to speak to our first quarter financial results and remaining 'twenty 'twenty four outlook in a bit more detail Chris.

Christopher K. George: Thank you, John, and good morning, everyone. During the first quarter of 2024, while we did see overall revenues modestly decline during the period as expected, we saw solid gains in our chemical technology segment, and our water infrastructure segment continued its steady growth trajectory, once again achieving record high quarterly revenue and gross profit results during the first With the support of our latest strategic initiatives, we expect to see consolidated revenue and adjusted EBITDA growth during the second quarter and are well on track towards achieving our 2024 full year target, including growing adjusted EVA value every year, underwriting approximately 100 million of new organic infrastructure projects, generating more than a third of our revenues from production related activities during 2024, growing water infrastructure revenue by 30% to 40% and profitability by 40% to 50% during the year, and supported by this growth seeing our water infrastructure and chemical technology segments combined for more than 50 percent of our total consolidated profitability for the year.

Christopher K. George: Thank you John and good morning, everyone. During the first quarter of 2024, while we did see overall revenues modestly declined during the period as expected we saw solid gains in our chemical technology segment, and our water infrastructure segment continued its steady growth trajectory once again, achieving record high quarterly revenue and gross profit results.

Christopher K. George: During the first quarter.

Christopher K. George: With the support of our latest strategic initiatives, we expect to see consolidated revenue and adjusted EBITDA growth during the second quarter and are well on track towards achieving our 2020 for full year targets.

Christopher K. George: Including growing adjusted EBITDA year over year underwriting approximately $100 million of new organic infrastructure projects.

John D. Schmitz: Generating more than a third of our revenues from production related activities during 2024.

John D. Schmitz: Growing water infrastructure revenue by 30%, 40% and profitability by 40% to 50% during the year.

John D. Schmitz: And supported by this growth seeing our water infrastructure and chemical technologies segments combined for more than 50% of our total consolidated profitability for the year.

Christopher K. George: And to reiterate, we also expect to do this while pulling through more than 40% of our adjusted EBITDA into free cash flow, after all maintenance and growth capex for the full year 2020. Even as activity levels have seen pressure in recent quarters and commodity prices remain unsettled, Select's ongoing transition to a more infrastructure-based, production-levered, full-life cycle water company has aligned our future profitability and cash flow generation with critical secular growth drivers unique to our business.

John D. Schmitz: And to reiterate we also expect to do this while pulling through more than 40% of our adjusted EBITDA into free cash flow after all maintenance and growth Capex for the full year of 2024.

John D. Schmitz: Even as activity levels have seen pressure in recent quarters and commodity prices remain unsettled select ongoing transition to a more infrastructure based production Levered full lifecycle water company is aligned our future profitability and cash flow generation with critical secular growth drivers unique to our business.

Christopher K. George: These trends continue to benefit Select, including increased water recycling by our customers, demand for infrastructure networks and commercial water balancing, and E&P Industry Consolidation that demands high-quality partners with the size, scope, and networks to serve the largest. During Q1, the water infrastructure segment increased revenue by more than 4% to $64 million, and gross margins, which we customarily provide in terms of prior to depreciation, amortization, and acc We expect to see even stronger 10 plus percent revenue growth during Q2, with a significant 30 to 40 percent growth in our disposal and waste solution volumes.

John D. Schmitz: These trends continue to benefit select including increased water recycling by our customers' demand for infrastructure networks and commercial water balancing.

John D. Schmitz: And E&P industry consolidation that demands high quality partners with the size scope and networks to serve the largest operators.

John D. Schmitz: During Q1, the water infrastructure segment increased revenue by more than 4% to $64 million and gross.

John D. Schmitz: Arjun, which we customarily provide in terms of prior to depreciation amortization and accretion increased by over 360 basis points to nearly 47%.

John D. Schmitz: We expect to see even stronger 10, plus percent revenue growth during Q2 with significant 30% to 40% growth in our disposal and waste solution volumes supported by our recent acquisitions and enhance utilization of existing assets.

Christopher K. George: Supported by our recent acquisitions and enhanced utilization of existing, the projects we announced yesterday demonstrate our ability to add value to our existing infrastructure networks through steady incremental commercialization for the Recycling and Gathering Pipeline Network Expansions in the Delaware Basin. Our existing systems, comprising large acreage dedications and multi-customer gathering, recycling, distribution, and disposal operations, create both optionality and additional contracting opportunities with new and existing infrastructure. These expanded networks will see enhanced utilization and water-balancing capabilities that make the expansions highly accretive. And even though natural gas prices have contracted, long-term gas demand is very robust, particularly with electricity demand rising rapidly and new LNG demand slated to come online in 2025 and 2026.

John D. Schmitz: The projects, we announced yesterday demonstrate our ability to add value to our existing infrastructure networks through steady incremental commercialization.

John D. Schmitz: For the recycling and gathering pipeline network expansions in the Delaware Basin.

John D. Schmitz: Our existing systems, comprising large acreage dedications and multi customer gathering recycling distribution and disposal operations create both optionality and additional contracting opportunities with new and existing infrastructure customers.

John D. Schmitz: These expanded networks will see enhanced utilization in water balancing capabilities that make the expansion is highly accretive.

John D. Schmitz: And even though natural gas prices have contracted long term gas demand is very robust, particularly with electricity demand rising rapidly and new LNG demand is slated to come online in 2025 and 2026.

Christopher K. George: Accordingly, in a gas basin like the Haynesville, long-term water gathering and disposal agreements from steady production sources remain an attractive growth option, especially when integrated with our market-leading disposal footprint, supported by our uniquely positioned gathering pipeline network. While the second quarter may see some expenses related to integration and standardization of our newly acquired assets, we expect to retain steady margins in water infrastructure during Q2, and believe we can continue to push these margins up over the coming quarters into the high teens.

John D. Schmitz: Accordingly in the gas basins like the Haynesville long term water gathering and disposal agreements with steady production sources remains an attractive growth option, especially when integrated with our market leading disposal footprint supported by our uniquely positioned gathering pipeline network.

John D. Schmitz: While the second quarter may see some expenses related to integration and standardization of our newly acquired assets, we expect to retain steady margins in water infrastructure. During Q2 and believe we can continue to push these margins up over the coming quarters into the high fours.

Christopher K. George: Looking out more medium term, we continue to believe that with a very strong project and deal backlog, water infrastructure will become the largest component of our profitability by the end of 2025, underpinned by repeatable, predictable, high-margin and contracted revenue. Chemical technologies revenue grew by 4% sequentially in Q1, with margins back up to about 17%. The business benefited from the non-recurrence of certain insurance and inventory adjustment items that impacted Q4's results, but overall, it was good to see the strong recovery in margin prices.

John D. Schmitz: Looking at more medium term, we continue to believe that with a very strong project and deal backlog water infrastructure will become the largest component of our profitability by the end of 2025 underpinned by repeatable predictable high margin and contracted revenue streams.

John D. Schmitz: Chemical technologies revenue grew by 4% sequentially in Q1 with margins back up to about 17%.

John D. Schmitz: The business benefitted by the non recurrence of certain insurance and inventory adjustment items that impacted Q4 results, but overall it was good to see the strong recovery in margin performance.

Christopher K. George: Looking forward to Q2, we expect to see continued low single-digit percentage revenue growth and margins improve to 17-19 percent. We believe there are opportunities to continue to improve the operating efficiency of our manufacturing operations and enhance our in-basin delivery logistics, which should continue to provide modest margin improvement opportunities. While the more completions-leveraged water services segment was impacted by modestly lower activity levels during the first quarter, about 85% of the revenue decline during the first quarter came from our fluids hauling and well testing services.

John D. Schmitz: Looking forward to Q2, we expect to see continued low single digit percentage revenue growth and margins improved to 17% to 19% range.

John D. Schmitz: We believe there are opportunities to continue to improve the operating efficiency of our manufacturing operations and enhance our in basin delivery logistics, which should continue to provide modest margin improvement opportunities.

John D. Schmitz: While the more completions Levered water services segment was impacted by modestly lower activity levels. During the first quarter about 85% of the revenue decline during the first quarter came from our fluids hauling and well testing service lines.

Christopher K. George: These are more commoditized areas of the business where we continue to focus on cost efficiency and consolidation and elimination opportunities. We have made decisions in multiple regions across these service lines to consolidate operations and pare back certain non-core offerings and geographies, such as fluids hauling in the Powder River Basin in Wyoming, for example.

John D. Schmitz: These are more commoditized areas of the business, where we continue to focus on cost efficiency and consolidation and elimination opportunities.

John D. Schmitz: We have made decisions in multiple regions across these service lines to consolidate operations and pair back certain noncore offerings and geographies.

John D. Schmitz: Such as fluids hauling in the powder River basin in Wyoming for example in order to streamline our operations improve our margin performance and focus on strategic service offerings that are critical to our full lifecycle solutions.

Christopher K. George: In order to streamline our operations, improve our margin performance, and focus on strategic service offerings that are critical to our full life cycle, these decisions will result in additional low single-digit percentage revenue decreases in the second quarter for water services. However, we should start to see the benefit of these decisions on the margin side, and we expect to see gross margins in water services increasing to 21-24% during the second quarter. SG&A during the first quarter decreased by 5% or $2.4 million as compared to the fourth quarter.

John D. Schmitz: These decisions will result in additional low single digit percentage revenue decreases in the second quarter for water services.

John D. Schmitz: However, we should start to see the benefit of these decisions on the margin side and we expect to see gross margins in water services, increasing to 21% to 24% during the second quarter.

John D. Schmitz: SG&A during the first quarter decreased by 5% or $2 $4 million as compared to the fourth quarter.

Christopher K. George: While the rebranding costs were low during Q1 relative to Q4, with the recent acquisitions, we continue to incur a balance of transaction-related costs during Q1. Looking forward, we expect SG&A to decline to the low $40 million range, while the transaction costs related to our recent acquisitions will remain during Q2.

John D. Schmitz: While the rebranding cost slow during Q1 relative to Q4 with the recent acquisitions, we continue to incur a balanced transaction related costs during Q1.

John D. Schmitz: Looking forward, we expect SG&A to decline to the low $40 million range.

John D. Schmitz: No transaction costs related to our recent acquisitions will remain during Q2.

Christopher K. George: All together, for the second quarter of 2024, we expect consolidated adjusted EBITDA of $64 to $68 million, a meaningful step up from Q1. Driven by the substantial continued growth in our water infrastructure segment over the course of 2024 and anticipated margin improvement in our services and chemical segments, we are firmly on track to continue growing our adjusted EBITDA on a year-over-year basis during 2024, even with the expected year-over-year revenue decline for water.

John D. Schmitz: Altogether for the second quarter of 2024, we expect consolidated adjusted EBITDA of $64 million to $68 million, a meaningful step up from Q1.

John D. Schmitz: Driven by the substantial continued growth in our water infrastructure segment over the course of 2024 and anticipated margin improvement in our services and chemical segments. We are firmly on track to continue growing our adjusted EBITDA on a year over year basis. During 2024, even with the expected year over year revenue decline for water services.

Christopher K. George: Looking at the balance sheet, we utilized our sustainability linked credit facility, in addition to cash on hand, to help fund four acquisitions for $108 million during Q1, ending the first quarter with $75 million of outstanding debt. This has ticked up to $100 million outstanding since quarter end, with the subsequent acquisition in April for approximately $29 million, but still leaves us with ample liquidity and a very conservative balance. We will remain disciplined in our use of leverage, but with the growing contribution of our higher-margin production levered and contracted revenue streams, we have good visibility into our ability to repay these outstanding borrowings in a relatively short period of time while still generating cash flow to fund the growth of the business organically.

John D. Schmitz: Looking at the balance sheet, we utilized our sustainability linked credit facility. In addition to cash on hand to help fund for acquisitions for $108 million during Q1 ends.

John D. Schmitz: Ending the first quarter was $75 million of outstanding borrowings.

John D. Schmitz: This has ticked up to $100 million outstanding since quarter end with the subsequent acquisition in April for approximately $29 million, but still leaves us with ample liquidity and a very conservative balance sheet.

John D. Schmitz: We will remain disciplined in our use of leverage but with a growing contribution of our higher margin production levered and contracted revenue streams, we have good visibility into our ability to repay these outstanding borrowings in a relatively short period of time, while still generating cash flow to fund the growth of the business organically.

Christopher K. George: We continue to return capital to shareholders with our increased dividend of $0.06 per share, equating to $7 and a half million of capital return to shareholders during Q1. We have $21 million remaining authorized on our share repurchase program. And while we remain open to tactical buybacks from within cash flow and a strong balance sheet, in the near term, we are prioritizing execution on infrastructure projects and integration of our infrastructure asset bolt-ons as a primary use of capital, while we maintain our commitment to the recently increased regular dividend and overall capital allocation flexibility.

John D. Schmitz: We continue to return capital to shareholders with our increased dividend of <unk> <unk> per share equating.

John D. Schmitz: Equating to seven $5 million of capital returned to shareholders during Q1.

John D. Schmitz: We have $21 million remaining authorized on our share repurchase program and while we remain open to tactical buybacks from within cash flow and a strong balance sheet in the near term we are prioritizing execution on infrastructure projects and integration of our infrastructure asset bolt ons as a primary use of capital while we remain maintain our commitment to the recently increased regular.

John D. Schmitz: Dividend and overall capital allocation flexibility.

Christopher K. George: As we reviewed last quarter, Select's growing and sustained profitability in recent years triggered an assessment of our taxable position at year-end, and we did transition into a book-taxable position during Q1. This translated into an effective book tax rate of about 25% during the first quarter.

John D. Schmitz: As we reviewed last quarter select growing and sustained profitability in recent years triggered an assessment of our taxable position at year end and we did transition into a book taxable position during Q1.

John D. Schmitz: This translated into an effective book tax rate of about 25% during the first quarter.

Christopher K. George: However, to reiterate, we do not anticipate material cash tax payments during 2024 as our substantial tax attributes and carry forwards will provide significant benefits during the year. We anticipate cash tax payments in 2024 to be a relatively modest $4 to $6 million, including state taxes, though our book tax expense applied to pre-tax operating income should remain at a percentage rate around where it was during the first. From an accounting perspective, this forecasted tax expense would primarily impact existing deferred tax assets in 2024 and 2025.

John D. Schmitz: However to reiterate we do not anticipate material cash tax payments during 2024, as our substantial tax attributes and carryforwards will provide significant benefit during the year.

John D. Schmitz: We anticipate cash tax payments in 2024 to be relatively modest.

John D. Schmitz: $4 million to $6 million.

John D. Schmitz: Including state taxes, though our book tax expense applied to pre tax operating income should remain at a percentage rate around where it was during the first quarter.

John D. Schmitz: From an accounting perspective, this forecasted tax expense would primarily impact existing deferred tax assets in 2024 and 2025.

Christopher K. George: Prior to becoming a cash outlay in future years, most likely commencing in 2020, quarterly depreciation, amortization, and accretion should tick up modestly with the latest acquisitions to the $38 to $40 million range. Quarterly interest expense should increase to two to three million dollars per quarter as we employ our sustainability-linked lending facility to execute our recent acquisitions. Net capex of $28.6 million was relatively flat quarter-over-quarter, though we may see a modest uptick during Q2 as our organic water infrastructure growth capex accelerates.

John D. Schmitz: Here to becoming a cash outlay in future years, most likely commencing in 2026.

John D. Schmitz: Quarterly depreciation amortization and accretion.

John D. Schmitz: Should tick up modestly with the latest acquisitions to the $38 million to $40 million range.

John D. Schmitz: And quarterly interest expense should increase to $2 million to $3 million per quarter as we employ our sustainability linked lending facility to execute our recent acquisitions.

John D. Schmitz: Net capex of $28 $6 million was relatively flat quarter over quarter, though we may see a modest uptick during Q2 as our organic water infrastructure growth Capex accelerates.

Christopher K. George: However, our full year net capex guidance of $140 million to $160 million in 2024 remains unchanged at this time. We anticipate $50 to $60 million of this CapEx going towards ongoing maintenance, with the largest component of the remaining overall spend going towards infrastructure growth. We generated asset sales of about $5 million during the first quarter and remain on track to generate up to $20 million of proceeds from asset sales during 2024, supported in particular by the consolidation and elimination efforts in WaterSmart.

John D. Schmitz: However, our full year net capex guidance of $140 million to $160 million in 2024 remains unchanged at this time.

John D. Schmitz: We anticipate $50 million to $60 million of this capex going towards ongoing maintenance with the largest component of the remaining overall spend going towards infrastructure growth capex.

John D. Schmitz: We generated asset sales about $5 million during the first quarter and remain on track to generate up to $20 million of proceeds from asset sales. During 2024 supported in particular by the consolidation and elimination efforts in water services.

Christopher K. George: While we invest in water infrastructure, we expect each of our water services and chemical technology segments to provide strong cash flows at low capital intensity during 2024, returning a combined 70% to 80% of profits in cash flows after CapEx, as we've previously noted, to help fund our water infrastructure. While the first quarter was not entirely indicative of this from a free cash flow perspective, as we incurred substantial seasonal cash impacts, including annual incentive program payouts, annual property tax payments, and other seasonal cash outflow items.

John D. Schmitz: While we invest in water infrastructure, we expect each of our water services and chemical technology segments to provide strong cash flows at low capital intensity. During 2020 for returning a combined 70% to 80% of profits and cash flows. After capex as we've previously noted to help fund our water infrastructure growth.

John D. Schmitz: While the first quarter was not entirely indicative of this from a free cash flow perspective, as we incurred substantial seasonal cash impacts, including annual incentive program payouts annual property tax payments and other seasonal cash outflow items, we continue to generate positive free cash flow during the first quarter and anticipate this ramping through the back half of the year.

Operator: We continue to generate positive free cash flow during the first quarter and anticipate this ramping up through the back half of the year. As I've outlined previously, we firmly expect to exceed our 2023 adjusted EBITDA in 2024, and we remain well on track to achieve our full-year cash flow target of pulling through more than 40% of our adjusted EBITDA into free cash flow for the full year of 2024 after accounting for all maintenance and growth capital.

John D. Schmitz: As I've outlined previously we firmly expect to exceed our 2023 adjusted EBITDA during 2024, and we remain well on track to achieve our full year cash flow target of pulling through more than 40% of our adjusted EBITDA into free cash flow for the full year of 2024 after accounting for all maintenance and growth Capex.

Operator: We have a tremendous amount of opportunity ahead of us, and I look forward to continuing to execute on our strategy. I'd like to wrap up by once again thanking all of our employees for their hard work and support. And with that, I open it up to questions. Operator.

John D. Schmitz: We have a tremendous amount of opportunity ahead of us and I look forward to continuing to execute on our strategy.

Speaker Change: I'd like to wrap up by once again thanking all of our employees for their hard work and support and with that open it up to questions.

John D. Schmitz: Operator.

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Speaker Change: Our first question is from Bobby Brooks with Northland.

Bobby Brooks: Good morning, guys. Hey, Bobby. You know, good morning.

Bobby Brooks: Hey, good morning, guys.

Bobby Brooks: Thanks. So really impressive margin improvement on the water infrastructure segment. And I know that occurred despite some detractors like acquisition, acquisition, integration costs, and organic spending. So I'm just curious, could you talk, could you discuss really what drove that, you know, 900 bips year over year step up in margarines, and are those pretty much the same factors that drove the 360 basis point sequential step up in margins for the segment? Yeah, I'll...

Bobby Brooks: Hey, Bob.

Bobby Brooks: Good morning, Thanks, So really impressive margin improvement on the water infrastructure segment and I know that occurred despite some detractors like acquisition acquisition integrated integration costs and organic spending.

Bobby Brooks: I'm just curious could you talk could you discuss really what drove that 900 bps year over year step up in margins and are those pretty much the same factors that drove the.

Bobby Brooks: 360 basis points sequential step up in margins for the segment.

Christopher K. George: Yeah, I'll, I'll start and probably let Michael add on, Bobby. You know, certainly pleased with the progress we made earlier in the year on the water infrastructure side. You know, the first quarter was certainly benefited by the accretive nature of the acquisitions. There's certainly some more work to do around the integration and enhancement of the assets that we've recently acquired to get them integrated into the portfolio. So you may see some of that in the second quarter as well.

Speaker Change: Yeah, I'll start and probably let Michael add on Bobby.

Speaker Change: Certainly pleased with the progress we made earlier in the year on the water infrastructure side.

Michael: The first quarter was certainly benefited by the accretive nature of the acquisitions and there are certainly some more work to do around the integration enhancement of the assets that we've recently acquired to get them integrated into the portfolio. So you may see some of that in the second quarter as well.

Christopher K. George: But overall, we certainly think we've got the right path towards continued improvement up to the high 40s, as we indicated. It's certainly on a year-over-year basis contributed also by the enhanced utilization of the base business, the assets across the overall portfolio, and the projects that we continue to invest in are generally coming in on an accretive basis relative to the segment as a whole. So you're really seeing kind of the full benefit across the board year-over-year, and in the first quarter and second quarter, a lot of improvement driven by the creative application of the acquisitions coming.

Michael: But overall, we certainly think we've got the right path towards continued improvement up to the high Forty's like we indicated.

Michael: It's certainly on a year over year basis contributed also by the enhanced utilization of the base business and the assets across the overall portfolio and the projects that we continue to invest in are generally coming in on an accretive basis relative to the segment as a whole so youre really seeing kind of the full benefit across the board year over year and in the first quarter and second quarter a lot of.

Michael: Improvement driven by the.

Michael: Accretive application of the acquisitions coming online.

Michael: Yes.

Bobby Brooks: Got it. Um, that's a terrific color. And then, you know, I know that the pipeline of opportunities for both green, both green and brown fields for the infrastructure segment is really healthy and expanding. So could you maybe help frame that pipeline for us, maybe, and maybe it's best to just compare it to what it is now versus, you know, this time last year, or even maybe what it was six months ago, and just discuss a bit what's been the driver of that pipeline growth?

Speaker Change: Got it.

Speaker Change: That's terrific color and then I know.

Michael: All of that.

Michael: I know that the pipelines of opportunities for both Green, both green and Brown fields for the infrastructure segment is really healthy and expanding.

Speaker Change: Could you just maybe help frame that pipeline for us maybe and maybe it's just compare it to what it what it is now versus this time last year or even maybe what it was six months ago, and just discuss a bit what's what's been the driver of that pipeline growth.

Michael C. Skarke: Sure. So Bobby, this is Michael.

Speaker Change: Sure. So Bobby this is Michael I'll take a first cut at it what I'd say is that the opportunities that we've got in front of US is the largest it's ever been.

Michael C. Skarke: I'll take a first crack at it. What I'd say is that the opportunities that we've got in front of us are the largest they've ever been. You know, relative to six months or a year ago, I think John mentioned it's doubled. So we've got really high interest right now. One of the things we've seen recently is a lot more customer inbound calls, which I think is really just a testament to what we've been able to create here in a relatively short period of time.

Michael: Relative to six months or a year ago I think John mentioned, it's doubled so we've got really high interest right now one of the things. We've seen recently is a lot more customer inbounds, which I think is really just a testament of what we've been able to create here in a relatively short period of time in terms of kind of more specifics we're looking at projects.

Michael C. Skarke: In terms of kind of more specifics, you know, we're looking at projects in every basin and across the recycling disposal and pipeline transmission segment. So we're really excited about it. We think we'll continue to be able to deliver projects on a regular basis through the rest of the quarter and really fuel continued improvement on infrastructure, both in top line growth and in margin as a result. Yeah, Bobby.

Speaker Change: In every basin.

Speaker Change: And across the recycling disposal and pipeline transmission backfill.

Speaker Change: So we're really excited about it we think we will continue to be able to deliver projects on a regular basis through the rest of the quarter.

Speaker Change: Really fuel continued improvement on infrastructure, both in topline growth and in margin as a result.

John D. Schmitz: Yeah, Bobby, this is John. You know, I'll add to a little bit of what Michael's talking about. What we really have now experienced is we really have created systems, and as we're doing these acquisitions that you're seeing, you're really adding assets that are available to the system. And as that happened, it created a lot of real value, projects that are, you know, value brought to our customers by hooking those assets up to those systems and bringing that economic value and, you know, that is what, when Michael say we get inbounds, that's the inbounds we're seeing is, you know, the value that we can really bring to our customers because of interactions between those systems and those asset bases, whether they're both acquisition or, you know, added asset basis that we will do internally.

Speaker Change: Yeah, Bob This is Jon.

Jon: Well I'll add too.

Jon: A little bit.

Jon: What Michael is talking about what.

Jon: What we really have now experienced as well.

Jon: We really have created systems and as we're doing these acquisitions that you're saying you're really adding assets that are available to the systems.

Jon: Has that happened.

Jon: It created a lot of real value.

Jon: Projects that are.

Jon: Wow, you brought to our customers by looking at those assets up to those systems and bringing that economic value.

Jon: And that is what when micro say, we get inbounds. So that's the issue.

Jon: Bounds, we're seeing as you know the value that we can really bring to our customers.

Jon: Because of interactions between those systems and those asset basis.

Jon: Whether they're both acquisition or added asset bases that we will do it internally.

Speaker Change: Got it.

Speaker Change: Thank you for the Collins is the last one for me sticking with the pipeline and you just I think Mike just mentioned it as well as with the multi basin.

Speaker Change: The multi basin approach.

Jon: Opinion that is a key distinguishing factor for selected.

Jon: Is that you guys had this multi basin asset base so.

Bobby Brooks: So, could you possibly just discuss which basins you see organic growth as more of the focus, and which basins, you know, maybe we should expect more inorganic growth. And if it doesn't, and if it doesn't differ, maybe possibly some color on why that's the case and why it's, you know, agnostic to basin.

Jon: Could you, possibly just discussed.

Jon: Which basins, which basins you see organic growth as more of a focus in which basins, maybe we should expect more inorganic growth and if it doesn't.

Jon: And if it doesn't differ maybe possibly some color on why that's the case some lines.

Jon: Basins.

Michael C. Skarke: Sure, so just stepping back for a minute. We're really, we want to be opportunistic, and so whether it's organic or inorganic, we're really open to whatever is the right solution for the customer and the most attractive answer for us. So you'll see us be, you have seen us be more acquisitive around disposals than around recycling. And that's because recycling's a newer business, and we're the largest business. And so putting organic capital to work has been much more attractive than anything inorganic. On the disposal side, we have more optionality.

Speaker Change: Sure. So just stepping back for a minute.

Speaker Change: We're really we want to be opportunistic and so whether this organic or inorganic we're really open to whatever is the right solution for the customer and the most accretive answer for us So you'll see us be you've seen us be more acquisitive around disposals than around recycling and that's because recycling is a newer <unk>.

Speaker Change: Business and we're the largest business and so putting organic capital to work has been much more attractive than anything inorganic on the disposal side, we have more optionality, we have been able to do a number of acquisitions that have existing cash flow at or below replacement cost and as John mentioned, we're acquiring assets.

Michael C. Skarke: We've been able to do a number of acquisitions that have existing cashflow at or below replacement costs. And, as John mentioned, we're acquiring assets. We're networking those assets, and then we're trying to get those underwritten by customer contracts because we think they add a lot of value to that. So, on the disposal side, regardless of the basin, we're going to be opportunistic between organic development and acquisition. In terms of basins, you know, we look at every basin similarly. I mean, we do a full underwriting of the acreage of the customer, and then we decide what makes the most sense.

Jon: We're networking those assets and then we're trying to get those underwritten by customer contracts, because we think they believe they add a lot of value to that customer.

Jon: So on the disposal side, whether it regarding them regardless of the basin, we're going to be opportunistic between organic development and acquisitions in terms of basins, where we look at every basin similar I mean, we do a full underwriting of of the acreage of the customer and then we decide what makes the most sense.

Michael C. Skarke: And so that's why you've seen us make acquisitions or drill new wells in the Haynesville but also in the Permian and everywhere else. Obviously, we're very focused on the Permian. That's where most of the capital is going to be spent. And that's where the biggest water problem is. And so that's going to be key and central for us, whether organic or inorganic going forward. But it doesn't preclude us from doing some of the deals we've done outside the Permian either.

Jon: So that's why you've seen us make acquisitions or drill.

Jon: New wells in the Haynesville, but also in the Permian and everywhere else.

Jon: Obviously, we're very focused on the Permian and Thats, where most of the capital is going to be spent that's where the biggest water problem is and so that's going to be key in central for us whether organic or inorganic going forward, but it doesn't preclude us from doing some of the deals we've done outside of the Permian either.

Christopher K. George: One thing I may just add to that, Bobby, as Michael mentioned, our general underwriting parameters are, you know, are going to be consistent whether that's recycling or disposal or pipelines, and generally, we're going to take that approach across the full portfolio of opportunities here, and we're starting to see the margin profiles across, you know, each of those applications of the infrastructure business. You know, it has become fairly normalized across the board as well, as we see the margin improvement and the contribution from the recent acquisitions. So, generally, that underwriting approach is going to be fairly consistent across the board, which gives us that opportunity to make the best decisions across the overall asset class.

Speaker Change: Well one thing I may just add on to that Bob is I mean, as Michael mentioned I mean, our general general underwriting parameters are are going to be consistent whether that's recycling or disposal of our pipelines and generally we're going to take that approach across the full portfolio of opportunities here and we're starting to see the margin profiles across.

Speaker Change: Each of those applications of the infrastructure business.

Speaker Change: <unk> become fairly normalized across the board as well as we see the margin improvement in the contribution from the recent acquisitions. So generally that underwriting approach is going to be fairly consistent across the board, which gives us that opportunity to make the best decisions across the overall asset base.

Bobby Brooks: understood, and I'd agree that it's definitely starting to show in the financials, and congrats on the great quarter. I'll return to the queue. Thanks guys.

Speaker Change: Understood and I would agree that's definitely starting to show in the financials.

Speaker Change: Congrats on the great quarter I'll return back to the queue. Thanks, guys. Thanks.

Speaker Change: Thanks, Bobby.

Operator: Our next question is from Jim Rollyson with Raymond James.

Speaker Change: Our next question is from Jim Rollyson with Raymond James.

James Michael Rollyson: Hey, good morning guys, and I'll echo the same thing on the great quarterly results. John, you've spent a little bit of time here lately, and you mentioned this in your prepared remarks, kind of focused on some of the solids and landfill through your M&A activity. Just curious, you know, what's your big picture thinking there? Is this just tying into making Select a more one-stop shop for water sourcing, recycling, disposal, and now you can deal with solids as well, or are there some other underlying drivers there, and should we expect any more M&A to kind of fill out the map there like you've done on the disposal side?

James Michael Rollyson: Hey, good morning, guys and I'll Echo the same thing on great quarterly results.

James Michael Rollyson: John you spent a little bit of time here lately and you mentioned this in your prepared remarks kind of focused on some of the solids and landfill three.

James Michael Rollyson: Through your M&A activity, just curious whats your big picture thinking.

James Michael Rollyson: Is there is this just tying into making select.

Speaker Change: More one stop shop for water sourcing recycling disposal and now you can deal with solids as well or are there. Some other underlying drivers there and should we expect any more M&A.

Speaker Change: M&A to kind of fill out the map there like you've done on the disposal side.

Speaker Change: Yeah.

John D. Schmitz: Well, you know, Jim, and I It is an area that we're very interested in, and we do a whole lot to tackle waste streams for our customer base. It is an area that fits together because whether you're working on a solid surface facility and once you do the separation and extract either skim oil or solids for landfill or fluids for disposal, it fits within our footprint of our expertise and the asset base that we have on it.

Speaker Change: Well.

Speaker Change: Jim.

Speaker Change: It is an area that you know that we are.

Speaker Change: Very interested in and managing.

Speaker Change: It's a whole lot tackle waste streams for our customer base. It is an area that fits together, because whether you're working as solid surface facility and once you do the separation and extract either skim oil or are solids for landfill or fluids for dish.

Speaker Change: Supposal.

Speaker Change: Fits within our footprint of our expertise in the asset base that we have on it.

John D. Schmitz: We also think there's probably an interaction between the landfill and our disposals and the value of that disposal because of the leachate. So we think it fits within the asset base, and we think it fits within the thesis of value added for waste management for our customers.

Speaker Change: We also think there is probably an interaction between the landfill than our disposals and the value of that disposal because of the leachate. So we.

Speaker Change: We think it fits within the asset base and we think it fits within the thesis of value add for waste management for our customer.

Michael C. Skarke: And maybe just to add that, it's really a natural vertical expansion for us, because, as John mentioned, the solids management is often co-located with our existing infrastructure base, and so it's a very collaborative combination. And then from a return profile, a margin profile, it really fits. It's consistent with infrastructure, so we view them largely the same.

Speaker Change: And maybe just to add on that it's really a natural vertical expansion for us because as John mentioned, the solid managements, often co located with our existing infrastructure base and so it's a very collaborative combination and then from a from a return profile and margin profile it really fits consistent with infrastructure. So.

Speaker Change: We view them largely the same.

James Michael Rollyson: Yeah, makes perfect sense. And maybe, Michael, just going back to the kind of backlog for new projects, as you guys have talked about, it continues to grow. As you look forward and build out your network through M&A and just unlock more opportunities there, curious what you think of as becoming constraints to growth there because you've got so many potential opportunities. Is it capital? Is it people? Like, how do you think about what actually constrains your ability to pursue all these opportunities and backlog?

Speaker Change: Yes.

Speaker Change: Perfect sense, and maybe Michael just going back to the to the kind of backlog for new projects. As you guys have talked about it continues to grow.

Speaker Change: As you look forward and build out your network through M&A and just unlock more opportunities there.

Speaker Change: Curious, what you think of as becoming constraints to growth there because you've got so many potential opportunities is it capital is it people like how do you think about what actually constrains your ability to pursue all these opportunities and backlog.

Michael C. Skarke: The backlog is very robust, and we're really excited about it. The returns, we've mentioned the underwriting previously, but they're attractive, and so I'm confident, between cash flow and potentially some other sources, we'll be able to continue to fund it and take advantage of that growth.

Speaker Change: So the backlog is very robust and we're really excited about it the returns we've mentioned the underwriting previously, but there are attractive and so I'm confident between.

Speaker Change: Cash flow and potentially some other sources will be able to continue to fund it and take advantage of that growth people are always a challenge, but it's not near the challenge. It was a year or two ago. So I really don't see that as a constraint either one of our challenges is just when we when we it takes a while to sign a long term.

Michael C. Skarke: People are always a challenge, but it's not near the challenge it was a year or two ago, so I really don't see that as a constraint either. One of our challenges is that when we do, it takes a while to sign a long-term contract with Keith and with an operator, and then it takes a while to construct that asset or link it up, network it, and then to work out the bugs and really deliver the cash flow. So I think one of the challenges for us is that we see this opportunity set in front of us, but the earnings aren't going to fully materialize for several years.

Speaker Change: Term contract with with teeth with an operator and then it takes a while to construct that contract like that asset are linked it up network. It.

Speaker Change: And then to work out the bugs and really deliver the cash flow. So I think one of the challenges just for US as we see this opportunity set in front of us, but the earnings aren't going to fully materialize for several quarters.

Christopher K. George: I think one thing I might add, Jim, to kind of your question is, you know, particularly as we're adding assets through acquisition here, I think it's a pretty different stage of acquisition integration than where we were a couple of years ago when we were adding companies and lots more application assistance process people. These are really adding assets on a discrete basis to an existing platform that can be integrated pretty efficiently and fairly streamlined from an acquisition integration standpoint. So certainly, you know, it should be a more straightforward exercise than we went through a couple of years ago from a balance sheet and a liquidity and a cash flow management standpoint as well. Right, thanks much.

Speaker Change: One thing I might add Jim to kind of your question is particularly as we're adding assets through acquisition here.

Speaker Change: I think it's a pretty different stage of of acquisition integration and where we were a couple of years ago, where we were adding companies.

Speaker Change: And lots lots more application assistance process people. These are really adding assets on a discrete basis into an existing platform that can be integrated pretty efficiently and fairly streamlined from a from an acquisition integration standpoint.

Speaker Change: So certainly should.

Speaker Change: Should be a more straightforward exercise that we went through a couple of years ago from a balance sheet and our liquidity and our cash flow management standpoint as well.

James Michael Rollyson: Right, much more plug-and-play versus what you were doing before. Perfect. I look forward to seeing this kind of unfold over the next 24 months with the backlog you've got going now. Again, great quarter. Thanks. Thanks, Jim.

Speaker Change: Right much more plug and play versus what you were doing before.

Speaker Change: Perfect I look forward to seeing that kind of unfold over the next 24 months with the backlog, we've got going out again, great quarter. Thanks.

Speaker Change: Thanks Sharon.

Operator: Our next question is from Tom Curran with Seaport Global Security.

Speaker Change: Our next question is from Tom Curran with Seaport Global Securities.

Thomas Patrick Curran: Good morning, guys.

Thomas Patrick Curran: Good morning, Thomas. I'll just start with two follow-ons to Jim's question about your newly expanding solids management and waste solutions portfolio here. Do you expect there to be opportunities? And if so, would you be interested in moving to minerals and metals extraction on that side? And then could this also enhance, you know, the array of prospects that the industrial solutions group has beyond the oil and gas sector?

Thomas Patrick Curran: Good morning, Tommy.

Thomas Patrick Curran: I'll just start with.

Thomas Patrick Curran: Two follow ons to Jim's question about your your newly expanding talent management and waste solutions portfolio here.

Thomas Patrick Curran: Do you expect there to be opportunities and if so would you be interested in.

Thomas Patrick Curran: Moving into minerals and metals extraction.

Thomas Patrick Curran: On that side and then could this also enhance.

Thomas Patrick Curran: The array of prospects that the industrial solutions group has beyond the oil and gas sector.

Michael C. Skarke: Yeah, thanks for the question, Tom. The solids management, as we mentioned, we really think it fits the infrastructure because it's, you know, it's largely co-located. It's a space that we've been slowly building or a position we've been slowly building with the landfill from Nuvera and the three slurry injection wells that we acquired from the recent disposal acquisitions. You know, one place that I do think it expands to would be around, you know, beneficial reuse.

Speaker Change: Yes, thanks for the question Tom.

Speaker Change: The solid management as we mentioned, we really think it fits infrastructure because it's it's you know it's largely co located it's a space that we've been slowly building.

Speaker Change: We've been slowly building with the landfill from Nomura and a three storey injection wells that we acquired from the recent disposal acquisitions.

Speaker Change: One place that I do think it expands to would be around beneficial reuse. So this is something that we've been focused on for some time, we've evaluated multiple solutions in multiple companies. We've got assigned commercial contract with a large operator, we've got a successful pilot in the Permian.

Michael C. Skarke: So this is something that we've been focused on, you know, for some time. We've evaluated multiple solutions in multiple companies. We've got, you know, a signed commercial contract with a large operator. We've got a successful pilot in Permian.

Michael C. Skarke: And so there is opportunity there. But there are still certainly challenges as it relates to economics. There's no silver bullet, but the interest continues to grow. One of the challenges with desalination or partial desalination is the solids. And so whether you're managing the salts or the iron or other solids, that's something that is a challenge with most of those solutions. And so as we think about expanding solids management beyond, you know, drill cuttings, oil and water-based mud, soil reclamation, tank bottoms, that's one area where I kind of see near-term expansion.

Thomas Patrick Curran: And so there is opportunity there that you are still certainly challenges as it relates to the economics.

Thomas Patrick Curran: And Theres no silver bullet, but the interest continues to grow one of the challenges with with desalinization or partial desalination is the solids and so whether you are managing the salts or the iron or other solids.

Thomas Patrick Curran: That's something that is a challenge with most of those solutions and so as we think about expanding sellers management beyond.

Thomas Patrick Curran: Drill cuttings oil and water base mud soil reclamation tank bottoms.

Thomas Patrick Curran: That's one area, where I kind of see near term expansion into.

Thomas Patrick Curran: makes sense. I can see the beneficial reuse angle there. Turning to water services, could you give us an idea of how far along you are with the rationalization and margin enhancement initiatives and when you would expect to have that business's composition where you want it to be in terms of having completed, you know, all of the yard closures, the field operations consolidation, the non-core disposals, just where we are, and when are you targeting to have that all finished?

Speaker Change: It makes sense I can see the beneficial reuse angle there.

Speaker Change: Turning to water services.

Speaker Change: Could you give us an idea of how far along you are with the rationalization and margin enhancement initiatives and when.

Speaker Change: When you would expect to have that businesses composition, where you want it to be.

Speaker Change: In terms of having completed.

Speaker Change: All of the the yard closures in the field ops consolidation the noncore disposals, just where are we at and when are you targeting to have that all.

Speaker Change: Finished.

Christopher K. George: Yeah, good question, Tom. You know, we've certainly picked up the pace of some of that decision-making in the first part of the year here, and that's carrying into the second quarter. The consolidation and elimination efforts are focused around, you know, narrowing the scope of some of the more commoditized service offerings that we mentioned, like fluids hauling and geographies that may be a little less core to the overall full lifecycle solutions, particularly around the infrastructure platform.

Speaker Change: Yes. Good question, Tom we certainly picked up the pace of some of that decision making.

Speaker Change: The first part of the year here and Thats carrying into the second quarter.

Speaker Change: The consolidation elimination efforts are focused around narrowing the scope of particularly some of the more commoditized service offerings that we mentioned like like fluids hauling in geographies that maybe.

Speaker Change: A little less noncore to the overall full lifecycle solutions, particularly around the infrastructure platform.

Christopher K. George: You know, we can also continue to look at opportunities and areas where we can enhance the segment via automation and technology. But the overall focus is on, you know, the core application of the business around the maintenance light, you know, less labor-intensive and higher-margin areas of service that are going to be critical to the overall full lifecycle solutions with infrastructure.

Speaker Change: We can also continue to look at opportunities in areas, where we can enhance the segment via automation and technology.

Speaker Change: But the overall focus is on the core application of other business around the maintenance light less labor intensive and higher margin.

Speaker Change: He is a service that are going to be critical to the overall full lifecycle solutions with infrastructure.

Christopher K. George: But that assessment is being, you know, made today. It's well underway. We saw some of that in the first quarter, and in the second quarter, we're going to see the benefits of that on the margin side of, you know, up to 21 to 24 percent. So we're going to start to see some of the impact of those decisions, but we're going to continue to make those here in the first half of the year, but I think we should largely have made most of those by the time we get to the middle end of the summer here.

Speaker Change: But that that assessment is being <unk>.

Speaker Change: Made today its well underway, we saw some of that in the first quarter and in the second quarter, we're going to see the benefits of that on the margin side of up to 20% to 24%. So we're going to start to see some of the pull through of those decisions and where we are.

Speaker Change: <unk> going to continue to make those here.

Christopher K. George: In the first half of the year, but I think we should largely have made most of those by the time, we get to the middle end of the summer here.

Christopher K. George: Ultimately, if something's not core or not earning a return on assets worthy of a replacement investment dollar, relative to our other alternatives, particularly around infrastructure, as Michael talked about, we're looking at all of this capital competitively, some of those things are probably things we don't need to be spending time on, so we're making those decisions now and should see the benefits in the relatively short term. Yeah.

Speaker Change: Ultimately, if something's not core or not earning a return on assets worthy of a replacement investment dollar.

Christopher K. George: Relative to our other alternatives, particularly around infrastructure as Michael talked about we're looking at all of this capital competitively.

Speaker Change: Some of those things are probably things, we don't need to be spending time on so we're making those decisions now and should see the benefits in relatively short order.

John D. Schmitz: Yeah, I want to, and this John, I want to add one thing to this. I mean, anytime you have technology moving around, activity moving around, you know, the type of equipment. It never stops, Tom, right? You keep busy all the time and trying to figure out what you need to be doing and what you need to not be doing.

John D. Schmitz: This is John.

John D. Schmitz: Add.

John D. Schmitz: One thing to this.

John: Anytime you have technology moving around activity moving around.

John D. Schmitz: The type of equipment.

John D. Schmitz: It never stops Com right you keep busy all the time and trying to figure out what you need to be done and what you need to not be doing that in our business.

John D. Schmitz: But in our business, margin enhancement is not just on the elimination side; really pulling value to our customers through our water transfer, through those infrastructures, or above ground containment. There are pieces that really enhance margins because of the value we can bring that are not necessarily elimination margin values.

John D. Schmitz: Margin enhancement is not just an elimination side.

Speaker Change: We can.

Christopher K. George: Really pull value to our customers through our water transfer through those those infrastructure.

John D. Schmitz: Our above ground containment.

Michael: There's pieces that really enhance margins because of the value we can bring.

John D. Schmitz: That are not necessarily elimination margin value.

Speaker Change: Got it.

Thomas Patrick Curran: Got it, and then chemical technologies. Could you give us an idea of what percentage of CT sales are being generated as part of water infrastructures produce water-related operations? Could you give us an idea of sort of where that's at today versus, say, a year ago?

John D. Schmitz: And then chemical technologies could.

Thomas Patrick Curran: Could you give us an idea of.

John D. Schmitz: What percentage.

Thomas Patrick Curran: Sales.

Thomas Patrick Curran: Or are being generated as part of Warner infrastructures produced water related operations.

John D. Schmitz: Could you give us an idea of sort of where that's at today versus.

Thomas Patrick Curran: Say a year ago.

John D. Schmitz: Okay.

Christopher K. George: Yeah, so it's increased from a year ago for sure because our recycling has increased materially over the last year, Tom, but it's still a relatively small portion of chemical technologies. It's an important portion for us because it's stable and we're able to get, you know, attractive rates to support our infrastructure. But the vast majority of chemical technologies is to the operator and, to a lesser extent, to the record of the pressure pump.

Speaker Change: Yes. So it's it's increased from a year ago for sure because our recycling has increased materially over the last year, Tom but it's still a relatively small portion of chemical technologies revenue. It is an important portion for us because its stable and we're able to get attractive rates for to support our.

John D. Schmitz: <unk>.

Christopher K. George: But the vast majority of chemical technologies as to the operator and with a lesser extent directly to the pressure pumper.

Christopher K. George: I think the important nuance to that is that the chemical technology that's being distributed to the operator now has transitioned from a more commoditized application to a more specialty application around that benefit or around that recycling, reuse application of produced water. So it's become a bit more of a complex decision for the operator when they're reusing produced water. You're not only treating that barrel of water to make it usable, but you're matching that with more specialty chemical applications in that completion fluid system that's going down the hole to complete the well.

John D. Schmitz: The important nuance to that is that that chemical technology, that's being distributed to the operator now has transitioned from a more commoditized application to add more specialty application around that benefit or around that recycling reuse application of produced water.

John D. Schmitz: So it's become a bit more of a complex application of a decision for the operator, when they're reusing produced water not only treating that barrel of water to make it usable, but you are matching that with more specialty chemical application in that completion fluid system thats going downhole to complete the well and this is something we've talked about in the past I mean, it was really.

Christopher K. George: And this is something we've talked about in the past. I mean, it was really a big part of the driver we experienced in the second half of 22 and in 23. You know, that transition is fully underway and largely taking place in the Permian. We haven't seen it really unfold in the other basins yet. We've seen it start, but not unfold.

Christopher K. George: A big part of the driver we experienced in the second half of 'twenty, two and in 'twenty three.

Christopher K. George: That transition is fully underway and largely taken place in the Permian, we haven't seen that really unfold in the other basins, yet we've seen it start but not unfolds. So as that continues to materialize.

Christopher K. George: So as that continues to materialize, you know, in the DJ or the Bakken or elsewhere, we do think that our custom chemistry will be more competitive in that market. And I think it's also important that, you know, as you talk about the application of recycling and growth there and the transition towards more advanced treatment over time around beneficial, etc. You know, we do view our chemicals application as a competitive advantage relative to the overall landscape because it is really the only integrated water and chemistry platform. So we do think that, you know, our R&D capabilities and specialty application of chemicals do continue to benefit us as we transition more towards it.

Christopher K. George: The DJ or the Bakken or elsewhere, we do think that our custom chemistry will be more competitive in that market and I think it's also important that as you talk about the application of <unk>.

John D. Schmitz: We're cycling in growth there and the transition towards more advanced treatment over time.

Christopher K. George: Fisheries et cetera, we do view, our chemicals application as a <unk>.

John D. Schmitz: Competitive advantage relative to the overall.

Christopher K. George: The landscape is really the only integrated water <unk> chemistry platform.

John D. Schmitz: So we do think that our.

Christopher K. George: R&D capabilities in specialty application of of chemicals does continue to benefit us as we transition more towards advance.

John D. Schmitz: Chemical reuse.

Christopher K. George: Yes.

Thomas Patrick Curran: understood. Helpful. I appreciate the time and thoughtful response. Thanks, Tom.

Speaker Change: Understood helpful. I appreciate the time and thoughtful responses.

Speaker Change: Thanks, Tom Thanks, Tom.

Operator: Our next question is from Don Crist with Johnson Rice.

Speaker Change: Our next question is from Don Crist with Johnson Rice.

Donald Peter Crist: Morning, gentlemen. Um, just wanted to ask about the ramp-up in water infrastructure. I mean, obviously, you have a lot of projects going on. And we're going to see, you know, somewhere in the neighborhood of 10% uplift in the second quarter. But as we look towards the back half and into 25, do you see a kind of linear ramp up, or is it going to be kind of lumpy as we kind of move toward your goal of being over 50% in that segment?

Donald Peter Crist: Good morning, gentlemen.

Donald Peter Crist: Just wanted to ask about the ramp up in water infrastructure I mean, obviously you have a lot of.

John Schmitz: Projects going on and we're going to see somewhere in the neighborhood of 10% uplift in the second quarter, but as we look towards the back half.

Donald Peter Crist: And it's a 25.

Donald Peter Crist: Do you see your kind of linear ramp up or is it going to be kind of lumpy as we kind of move towards your goal.

Over 50% in that in that segment.

Christopher K. George: Yeah, you'll certainly see a pretty steady, you know, trajectory of growth Don over the next couple of quarters. You know, there could be some stair-step benefits from some of the larger projects like the Thompson Pipeline that we spoke about last quarter, which should be coming online during the third quarter as a, you know, very large Greenfield project that has a chance to provide a bit of a stair-step benefit once that comes online.

Speaker Change: Yes, you'll certainly see a pretty steady trajectory of growth Don over the next couple of quarters, there could be some stair step benefit of some of the larger projects like the Thompson pipeline that we spoke about last quarter.

Christopher K. George: Should be coming online during the third quarter as a.

Christopher K. George: A very large greenfield project that has a chance to provide a bit of a stairstep benefit once that comes online.

Christopher K. George: The remaining projects we announced this quarter, a little bit smaller on an individual basis, starting to benefit in Q3 and Q4, and we should see a continued backlog of execution of smaller and potentially larger projects coming online over the next handful of quarters, but we'll certainly, you know, certainly see a fairly steady growth rate, particularly as we get the acquired assets integrated and start to enhance the utilization of those assets over time as well. Yeah, I think the stair-step method is better.

Christopher K. George: The remaining projects, we announced this quarter a little bit smaller on an individual basis, starting to benefit in Q3, and Q4, and we should see a continued backlog of execution smaller and potentially larger projects coming online over the next handful of quarters.

Christopher K. George: But we will certainly certainly see a fairly steady growth application, particularly as we get the acquired assets integrated and start to enhance the utilization of those assets over time as well I think the stairstep approach is the right way to think about it Don I guess, what I'd say is between the acquisitions and the project backlog and the ones that we have a backlog of opportunities.

Michael C. Skarke: Yeah, I think the stair-step approach is the right way to think about it, Don. I guess what I'd say is between the acquisitions and the project backlog and the ones that we have, you know, I shouldn't say backlog, the opportunities that we have, and then the construction projects currently that we have coming online over the next six months, we feel, you know, really good about our ability to have 50% or more of our gross profit before depreciation and 25% coming from infrastructure. And we feel really pretty good about hitting our target margin in infrastructure.

Michael C. Skarke: We have and then the construction projects currently that we have coming online over the next six months, we feel really good about our ability to have a.

Michael C. Skarke: 50% or more of our gross profit before depreciation and 25 coming from infrastructure.

Michael C. Skarke: We feel really pretty good about hitting our target margin in infrastructure of 50%.

Donald Peter Crist: I appreciate that color. And just one further one for me, if I understand correctly, it sounds like the free cash flow is kind of being dedicated more towards, you know, future M&A and debt payback possibly, and not towards share buybacks, at least initially. Is that the right way to think about it? Or can you expand on that any?

Don: I appreciate that color and just one further one from me if I heard correctly. It sounds like the free cash flow is kind of be dedicated more towards.

Donald Peter Crist: Future M&A.

Speaker Change: That payback, possibly and not toward share buybacks at least initially.

Donald Peter Crist: Is that the right way to think about it or can you expand on that any.

Christopher K. George: Yeah, good question. You know, certainly in the first half of the year here, the capital, you know, allocation was certainly weighted towards these acquisitions. We do still have the open authorization of $21 million today for share repurchases, and we'll continue to look at a tactical application of that as part of our overall shareholder return strategy. Obviously, with the recently increased dividend, we're strongly committed to shareholder returns over time here.

Speaker Change: Yes. Good question certainly the first half of the year here.

Christopher K. George: The capital allocation was was certainly weighted towards these acquisitions.

Christopher K. George: We do still have the open authorization of $21 million today for share repurchases and we will continue to look at it a tactical application of that as part of our overall shareholder return strategy, obviously with the recently increased dividend. We are strongly committed to shareholder returns over time here.

Christopher K. George: And we do think that we've got a strong organic investment backlog that will be well within free cash. And then what we do with that remaining cash will be a continued decision on a quarter-by-quarter basis. So we certainly view it as part of the overall allocation strategy, Don, but certainly in the first half of the year here, we were focused on M&A. The back half of the year, we are probably going to be more heavily focused on investing in organic growth, but that should still leave ample free cash over the back half of the year to make some decisions.

Christopher K. George: And we do think that we've got a strong organic investment backlog that will be well within free cash and then what we do with that remaining cash will be.

Christopher K. George: Our continued decision on a quarter by quarter basis here. So we certainly view it as part of the overall allocation strategy, Don but <unk>.

Christopher K. George: Certainly the first half of the year here, we're focused on M&A back half of the year, probably going to be more heavily focused on investing in the organic growth, but that should still leave ample free cash over the back half of the year to make some decisions around.

Donald Peter Crist: I appreciate the color, but I'll turn it back.

Speaker Change: I appreciate the color I'll turn it back.

Operator: Our next question is from Jeff Robertson with Water Tower Research.

Donald Peter Crist: Our next question is from Jeff Robertson with water Tower research.

Jeffrey Woolf Robertson: Thank you good morning.

Jeffrey Woolf Robertson: John, you talked a little bit about the systems in water infrastructure, and I'm curious as to whether you continue to build out that can offer more solutions to your customers. Is that really what's driving the margin uptick in water infrastructure, or is it adding? Adding Contracts to Existing Systems

Jeffrey Woolf Robertson: John you talked a little bit about the systems.

Jeffrey Woolf Robertson: In water infrastructure and I'm curious as to whether you continue to build out.

Jeffrey Woolf Robertson: Infrastructure systems that can offer more.

Jeffrey Woolf Robertson: Solutions to your customers is that really what's driving the margin uptick in water infrastructure or is it adding.

Jeffrey Woolf Robertson: Yeah.

Jeffrey Woolf Robertson: Adding contracts to existing systems.

John D. Schmitz: As far as you know, the asset base and the systems. That would be adding contracts and new extensions to existing systems. So you buy assets that are a good fit but not necessarily hooked up to the system yet. You contract around those assets. You have to put some infrastructure in to get them part of the system itself, and that creates a new contract of length, as far as the margin is concerned. I think we've been, you know, clear.

Speaker Change: That's for us.

John D. Schmitz: The asset base and the systems that would be adding contracts and new extensions to existing systems. So you <unk>.

John D. Schmitz: Hi.

John D. Schmitz: Assets that are.

John D. Schmitz: A good fit but not necessarily hooked up to the system, yet you contract around those assets.

John D. Schmitz: You have to put some infrastructure and to get them part of the.

John D. Schmitz: The system itself and that creates a new contract.

John D. Schmitz: The linked as far as the margin is concerned I think we've been.

John D. Schmitz: Clear.

John D. Schmitz: We have a certain return value in the contracts, whether they're both new contracts for recycling or existing things that we've closed on M&A or even putting just pipelines in to hook up disposal wells into long-haul pipeline systems into different areas of disposal. Those are all underwritten, very similar to each other, and that underwriting delivers that 50% gross margin that Michael's talking about. It's also important to say, again, in the sense of what creates the backlog once the value is being able to be recognized by our customers, those inbounds are looking for the value that we're creating for their LOE or their AFE as well as the return profile that we're getting. So it's a very big value-add to our customers.

John D. Schmitz: We have a certain.

John D. Schmitz: Return value in the contracts whether they are both.

John D. Schmitz: New contracts for recycling are existing.

John D. Schmitz: Sure.

John D. Schmitz: Things that we've closed on M&A or even.

John D. Schmitz: Putting just pipelines into hookup disposal wells into.

John D. Schmitz: <unk>.

John D. Schmitz: Long haul.

John D. Schmitz: Pipeline systems into different areas of disposal.

John D. Schmitz: Those are all underwritten very similar to each other.

John D. Schmitz: And that that.

John D. Schmitz: Underwriting delivers that 50% gross margins at Michaels talking about it's also important that the.

John D. Schmitz: Say again in the sense of.

John D. Schmitz: What creates the backlog once the.

John D. Schmitz: The value is being able to be recognized by our customers those inbounds.

John D. Schmitz: Or looking for the value that we're creating to their low.

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John D. Schmitz: As well as the return profile that we're getting so its very value add to our customer.

John D. Schmitz: John.

John D. Schmitz: Is the customer willing to contract services for longer periods of time as you build out more solutions and new systems?

John D. Schmitz: Is the customer willing to contract services for longer periods of time as you build out.

John D. Schmitz: More solutions and new systems.

John D. Schmitz: Yes, I mean... When you have various issues that are attractive to you, the repeatable predictable, it's not just in the earnings power of this company, but it's also in the operational power of our customers. They know they have stability in a very important part of their LOE and their AFE. The flexibility of the system itself, whether you're, you know, taking the water back to a new developed well, or, you know, stacking the water up into reserves for the next newly developed well, or, you know, taking it for disposal.

Speaker Change: Yes, I mean.

John D. Schmitz: When you you got various issues that are attractive to you. The repeatable predictable. It is not just in the earnings power of this company, but it's also in the operational power of our customers. They know they've got stability.

John D. Schmitz: And a very important part of their low.

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John D. Schmitz: The flexibility of the systems itself, whether Youre <unk>.

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John D. Schmitz: Our new developed well.

John D. Schmitz: Or.

John D. Schmitz: Stag and the water up into reserves for the next newly developed well.

John D. Schmitz: Yes.

John D. Schmitz: We're taking it to disposal that is a very big value add to our customer base and so it's.

John D. Schmitz: That is a very big value add to our customer base. And so it's in that optionality as well as just the repeatable, predictable, and then the actual cost to their LOE or extension of their economic values.

John D. Schmitz: It's in that Optionality as well as just the repeatable predictable and then.

John D. Schmitz: And then the actual cost to their low either extension of their economic values. It's the infrastructure service model. So that you can provide.

Michael C. Skarke: It's the infrastructure service model, so that you provide the certainty and the cost efficiency of fixed infrastructure with the flexibility of service. And by providing that together, you have a higher certainty of execution and just better communication. So it gets back to kind of the one-stop-shop model. And so to John's point, we have, and I think we will continue to see, benefits to water services through the success of water improvement.

Michael C. Skarke: The certainty and the cost efficiency of fixed infrastructure with the flexibility of service and by providing that together you have a higher certainty.

Michael C. Skarke: Of execution is better communication. So it gets back to kind of the one stop shop model and so to John's point, we have and think we will continue to see benefit to water services through the success in water infrastructure.

Jeffrey Woolf Robertson: Thanks. And Michael, on the beneficial reuse you touched on, has any of the issues around injection and seismicity accelerated any of the work that you're seeing done on to try to overcome some of the economic challenges of beneficial reuse, or is it just kind of a steady state march toward what the industry hopes will be a solution? I think it's accelerating interest.

Michael C. Skarke: Thanks, Michael on the beneficiary.

Jeffrey Woolf Robertson: We use you've touched on has.

Jeffrey Woolf Robertson: Has any of the issues around.

Jeffrey Woolf Robertson: Injection seismicity is that.

Jeffrey Woolf Robertson: Celebrated any of the work that.

Jeffrey Woolf Robertson: Youre seeing done on to try to overcome some of the economic challenges of beneficial reuse or is it just kind of a steady state March tour.

Jeffrey Woolf Robertson: What the industry hopes will be a solution.

Michael C. Skarke: I think it's accelerating interest among our customers in those solutions and in our progress in evaluating companies and technologies and, you know, the success of pilot programs, for sure. I mean, it's something that the industry is aware of, and in order to protect the oil coming out of the ground in the Permian Basin, customers or the operators have to secure a place for that water. And as formations pressure up or, you know, the Regulatory Railroad Commission reduces injectivity, you're going to have a harder and harder challenge getting rid of that water, and beneficial reuse could be one of the answers.

Michael: I think it's accelerating interest among our customers and those solutions and our progress in evaluating companies and technologies and.

Michael C. Skarke: The success of pilot programs for sure I mean, it's something that the industry is aware of.

Michael C. Skarke: In order to protect the oil coming out of the ground in the Permian Basin.

Michael C. Skarke: The customers are the operators have to secure a place for that water and its formation pressure up or the regulatory.

Michael C. Skarke: Railroad Commission reduces injective, if youre going to have a harder and harder challenge of getting rid of that water and beneficial reuse could be one of the answers.

Speaker Change: Thank you.

Operator: Our next question is from John Daniel with Daniel Energy Partners.

Michael C. Skarke: Our next question is from John Daniel with Daniel Energy Partners.

John Daniel: Hey guys, good morning. I know you mentioned in the back half you're going to sort of shift more towards organic versus acquisition, but I'm curious when you look at sort of the turmoil in the broader market out there, if, you know, you might actually see some opportunistic opportunities pop up. Are you seeing any signs that that might potentially play out where the strategy might pivot a little bit from back to M&A versus organic?

John Daniel: Hey, guys good morning.

John Daniel: I know you mentioned in the back half youre going to sort of shift more towards organic versus acquisition, but I'm curious when you look at sort of the turmoil in the broader market out there.

John Daniel: If you might actually see some opportunistic opportunities pop up.

John Daniel: Are you seeing any signs that that might potentially play out where the strategy might pivot a little bit from backed M&A versus organic.

John D. Schmitz: Yeah, John Schmitz. We believe that that is a very, you know..., possible outcome as we travel through the next six to nine months, whether it's market conditions or whether it's systems that belong together to bring value both to the investor base of this company or the other company as well as to our customer base. We do believe that what you're describing could develop at the same time that we're executing a large amount of this backlog that Michael and Chris and I are talking about. So something we, you know, keep our minds open, and our phones available, and I do believe it could happen, John.

John Daniel: Yeah, John This is John Schmitz.

John D. Schmitz: We believe that that that is a very.

John D. Schmitz: Yes.

John D. Schmitz: Possible outcome as we travel through the next six to nine months.

John D. Schmitz: Whether it's market conditions or whether it's.

John D. Schmitz: Systems that belong together to bring value both to the Investor base of this company or the other company as well as our customer base.

John D. Schmitz: We do believe that.

John D. Schmitz: What you are describing could develop.

John D. Schmitz: Over that same time that we're executing.

John D. Schmitz: A large amount of this backlog that Michael and Chris and I are talking about so something we do.

John D. Schmitz: Keep our minds open.

John D. Schmitz: <unk> phones available and.

John D. Schmitz: Believe it could happen Joan.

John Daniel: Okay, and then, you know, you've done, I guess, the five deals this year, and you closed them. How many deals do you see that you turn down, and is it typically, when you turn them down, is it a function of either, is it more valuation, or is it, you do the digging, and you see some environmental concerns? Like, what causes the deal not to happen?

Speaker Change: Okay, and then <unk>.

John Daniel: You've done I guess, the five deals this year have closed them.

John Daniel: How many deals do you see.

John Daniel: See that you turned down and is it typically is.

John Daniel: When you turn them down is that a function of either is it more valuation or is it you did a dig in and you see some environmental concerns like what causes the deal not to happen.

John D. Schmitz: Yeah, I would say first that, especially as Chris said, the first ones we were doing were really companies, and the companies companies that you know, John, that we bought whole companies from, what we're buying now are really assets that fit those systems in that, and they're very identified before we go into really trying to either evaluate or buy the asset base. So we don't go through a lot of... a lot of deals to come up with the one deal that fits us well.

Speaker Change: Yes, I would I would say first if you <unk>.

John D. Schmitz: Look at the deals that we've done, especially as Chris said. The first one is we were doing were really companies in the company.

John D. Schmitz: Companies that you know John we bought whole companies, what we're buying now is really assets that fit those systems and that and Theyre very identified before we go into.

John D. Schmitz: Really trying to either evaluate our bi.

John D. Schmitz: The asset base. So we don't go through a lot of.

John D. Schmitz: Uh huh.

John D. Schmitz: A lot of deals to come up with the one deal that fits us well, we really identified the deals that fit us real well and spend time on them as far as the environmental and logically the due diligence.

John D. Schmitz: We really identify the deals that fit us real well and spend time on them. As far as the environmental and, logically, due diligence, yeah, we've had a few things that we looked at that we just couldn't stomach, or we found that they didn't fit. And it were things that we thought were strategic, and we had to turn them away for various reasons, but it's either going to be an assistance fit, or an environmental, or a condition downhole, or things of that nature that probably kill most of our deals, John.

John D. Schmitz: Yes, we've had we've had a few things that we looked at that we just couldn't stomach.

John D. Schmitz: We found that they didn't fit and it was.

John D. Schmitz: Things that we thought were strategic and we had to turn them away for various reasons, but it's going to be assistance fit or an environmental or condition downhole or things of that nature that probably kills most of our deals Joe.

Christopher K. George: And John, this is Chris. I might add to that, you know, some of these opportunities as well as, as we've mentioned, we're able to buy some of these assets at below replacement costs, which in and of itself is oftentimes replacing what is growth capital that we might otherwise be interested in organically investing. We can find an asset that's a strategic fit and underutilized and buy it in a manner that's going to be competitive against what would have already been a need for an organic project. And that's going to be a continued opportunity for us to add to the portfolio. Okay. Thanks, guys.

John D. Schmitz: John This is Chris I'd, maybe add to that some of these opportunities as well as as we mentioned we're able to buy some of these assets at below replacement cost, which in and of itself is oftentimes, replacing what is growth capital that we might otherwise be interested in organically investing right. If we can go.

Christopher K. George: Find an asset that is a strategic fit underutilized and buy it in a manner, that's going to be competitive against what would have already been a need for an organic project that is going to be a continued opportunity for us to add to the portfolio.

John Daniel: Okay. Thanks, Hans. Thanks for keeping me in the loop here and letting me on the call.

Christopher K. George: Okay makes sense thanks for Keith.

Speaker Change: Keep them in the loop here, let me on the call. Thanks.

Speaker Change: Thanks, Sean.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of the question and answer session. I would like to turn the call back to John Schmitz for closing remarks. Yeah, thanks.

John Daniel: Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of the question and answer session I would like to turn the call back to John Schmitz for closing remarks.

John D. Schmitz: Yeah, thanks. Thank you, everyone, for joining the earnings call today. Continue to add thanks to our employees, the customers, the investors, and we really look forward to talking to you about Select in the next quarter. Thank you very much.

John D. Schmitz: Yeah. Thanks, Thank you everyone for joining our earnings call today.

John D. Schmitz: Continue to.

John D. Schmitz: Add on thanks to our employees.

John D. Schmitz: Customers and investors and we really look forward to talking talking to you about select in the next quarter. So thank you very much.

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Q1 2024 Select Water Solutions Inc Earnings Call

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Q1 2024 Select Water Solutions Inc Earnings Call

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Wednesday, May 1st, 2024 at 3:00 PM

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