Q3 2025 GitLab Inc Earnings Call
Speaker Change: Good day, everyone, and welcome to today's GitLab third quarter fiscal year 2025 conference call. At this time, all participants are in view and listen only mode.
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Speaker Change: And if you are joining via phone only, you may press star nine to ask a question. Please note this call is being recorded. I will be standing by should you need any assistance and it is now my pleasure to turn the conference over to Kelsey Turcotte.
Kelsey Turcotte: Good afternoon. We appreciate you joining us for GitLab's third quarter fiscal year 2025 financial results conference call.
Kelsey Turcotte: With me are Sytse Sijbrandij, our co-founder and Executive Chair of the Board, Brian Robbins, our CFO, and Bill Staples, our newly appointed CEO. During this afternoon's call, we will introduce Bill, provide commentary on our third quarter results, and guidance for the fourth quarter and fiscal year 2025. Before we begin, I'll cover the Safe Harbor Statement.
Kelsey Turcotte: I'd like to direct you to the cautionary statement regarding forward-looking statements on page two of our presentation and in our earnings release issued earlier today, both of which are available under the investor relations section of our website.
Kelsey Turcotte: The presentation and earnings release include a discussion of certain risks, uncertainties, assumptions, and other factors that could cause our results to differ from those expressed in any forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act.
Kelsey Turcotte: As is customary, the content of today's calls and presentation will be governed by this language. In addition, during today's call, we will be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures. These non-GAAP financial measures exclude certain unusual or non-recurring items that management believes impact the comparability of the periods referenced.
Speaker Change: Please refer to our earnings release and presentation materials for additional information regarding these non-GAAP financial measures and the reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measure. I'll now turn the call over to Sytse Sijbrandij. Syd? Thank you for joining us today. And before I get to the numbers, I couldn't be more excited to welcome Bill Staples to the team.
Sytse Sijbrandij: This afternoon we announced Bill will succeed me as CEO of GitLab.
Sytse Sijbrandij: He will also take a seat on the GitLab board and I'll continue on as Executive Chair of the GitLab board.
Sytse Sijbrandij: As I have gotten to know Bill, his passion for software and commitment to innovation makes me confident he is the right person to lead the company going forward.
Sytse Sijbrandij: Over his career, Bill has an impressive track record of building and scaling enterprise software organizations. He most recently served
Sytse Sijbrandij: as CEO of New Relic, and held senior leadership roles at Adobe and Microsoft. I couldn't be more excited to welcome Bill to the team. Congratulations, Bill, over to you.
Thank you, Sid, and good afternoon, everyone.
Bill Staples: I'm humbled to have been asked by Sid and the board to take on the role of GitLab's CEO.
Bill Staples: I've spent nearly three decades building developer platforms and tools, and I know our customer and category very well.
Bill Staples: I'm convinced that we have a significant opportunity ahead of us.
Bill Staples: We've all seen how software has changed all aspects of our lives and transformed every business into a software-driven business.
Bill Staples: However, I believe we're still in the early stages of the software transformation, which I expect AI to further accelerate.
Bill Staples: In my view, there's never been a better time to serve developers, and GitLab offers the best and most comprehensive platform to do that.
Bill Staples: We sit at the heart of the software development lifecycle, improving the development experience for everyone involved, and enabling customers to create better quality software, faster for enterprises.
Bill Staples: I look forward to rolling up my sleeves, spending time with customers, partners, and you, as well as GitLab team members.
Speaker Change: Sid, I'm honored to take the helm of a company that you worked so hard to build. Thank you for entrusting me with your vision. Now I'll turn the call back to you.
Thanks, Bill. I really look forward to working with you.
Sid: Turning back to the business, I want to talk about a few things.
Sid: First, our really strong Q3. Second, our competitive advantage in AI and where we are going. And finally, the tremendous momentum we are seeing with GitLab Ultimate.
Sid: We executed well and once again we exceeded both revenue and profitability guidance.
Third quarter revenue increased 31% year-over-year to $196 million.
Sid: and consistent with our commitment to responsible growth, our non-GAAP operating margin reached 13.2%. This is an increase of over 1,000 basis points year over year.
from cyber security sets to compliance mandates.
CTOs, CIOs, and CISOs are facing increasingly complex challenges.
Sid: On the AI front, we continue to build momentum with GitLab Duo Pro and Enterprise.
Sid: Customers are realizing tangible value with it. One recently told us that 40% of their developers are saving more than two hours per week with Duo and another customer is seeing productivity improvements of up to 50%.
Sid: In their first purchase with GitLab, Emirates, the world's largest international airline, chose Ultimate and Duo Pro.
Sid: After comparing different AI-powered developer tools, it was our platform's built-in security and compliance capabilities and our AI code assistants that made us the choice.
Sid: Another new customer, Oxblue, a leading global provider of construction video camera services, chose Ultimate and Duo Enterprise in a competitive assessment against GitHub.
Sid: This is because of our ability to improve the developer experience across the entire software development lifecycle, including productivity improvements and security.
Sid: The combination of ultimate and dual enterprise is a powerful one.
Sid: While there are many AI solutions that can generate code, we go beyond that. We integrate AI throughout the software development lifecycle.
Sid: And we serve all stakeholders involved in shipping-grade software, including product managers, security engineers, and operations teams.
Sid: To take advantage of our end-to-end AI capabilities beyond the code creation, F5 moved from Duo Pro to Duo Enterprise in Q3.
Sid: An international insurance and financial services company expanded their ultimate deployment and purchased Duo Enterprise.
Sid: By the end of 2024, they will have replaced four point products, saving over $2 million. They plan to consolidate more tools over the next three years, securing their entire software supply chain with a single DevSecOps platform.
Sid: And with Duo Enterprise, they estimate that their engineering teams will spend up to 45% less time on mundane tasks.
Sid: like writing code, allowing them to spend time on more strategic, valuable work.
Sid: LATAM Airlines, the largest airline in Latin America, and a new GitLab customer selected Ultimate and Duo Enterprise in a competitive evaluation between us and several security AI and CI CD point solutions.
Sid: Now, LetM can consolidate their software toolchain, reduce costs, and improve productivity.
Sid: and they can leverage our extensive security scanner coverage and AI throughout the software development lifecycle. Looking ahead, we intend to be the vendor customers choose to partner with for a comprehensive approach to AI.
Sid: There are three reasons we believe we are uniquely positioned to do this.
First is our end-to-end DevSecOps platform.
To be effective, AI models need context.
Sid: And our platform's Unified Datastore allows us to give the AI more and more relevant context.
Sid: Second, customers value security when it comes to AI. I'm excited to share that GitLab Duo Enterprise customers can now deploy self-hosted models.
Sid: This is a significant differentiator for us. With self-hosted models, customers can implement AI capabilities without their private data leaving the organization.
Sid: This lowers the risk of security breaches and enables adherence to data protection laws.
Sid: Recently, a large U.S. government agency chose to add 2,000 GitLab Duo Enterprise users to their existing Ultimate licenses to provide their developers with an AI experience in an offline environment.
Sid: They chose GitLab Duo because they could use their own self-hosted large language models with their existing GitLab instance.
Sid: Finally, customers need to trust the AI they are using. This concern is raised at all levels of our customers' organization, including the board of directors. We partner with LLM vendors who do not use our customers' proprietary code to train their models.
Sid: And we have adopted a transparency and privacy first approach to safeguard customers' data and IP.
Sid: Earlier this week, we announced a bundle offering for GitLab Duo with Amazon Q, allowing developers to create and deploy high-quality, secure code faster on AWS.
Sid: The joint offering integrates AI capabilities from GitLab Duo and Amazon Q into a single interface for AWS customers using GitLab Ultimate. Gen AI innovation started with AI powered code creation, which we offer in GitLab Duo Pro.
Sid: With the introduction of Duo Enterprise, we expanded AI to everyone in the software development life cycle.
Sid: We anticipate the next evolution in AI will be agentic, where AI will be autonomous and proactive rather than prompt-based and reactive.
Sid: Identik AI is the foundation of GitLab Dual Workflow, an autonomous agent for end-to-end software development that we shared a preview of earlier this year. This is where we see the industry going, and we intend to be the leader. Now, I'll move on to the success we're seeing with Ultimate.
Sid: There are multiple drivers creating demand for Ultimate, and interest from partners like AWS.
Sid: These include Integrated Security and Compliance, GitLab Dedicated, and, as I discussed, Duo Enterprise.
Sid: Ultimate has now reached 48% of our total ARR. During the quarter, indeed, the number one job site in the world moved from GitLab Premium to Ultimate.
Sid: Prior to the upgrade, Indeed migrated thousands of projects from a legacy competitor to GitLab.
Increasing Daily Pipelines by
Sid: 79% and cutting hardware costs by up to 20%. In Q3, they chose Ultimate to consolidate multiple tools into one platform for source code management, CICD, and security. Ultimate creates a paradigm shift in how customers can embed security in the earliest stages of software development.
Sid: We also seamlessly integrate security checks and guardrails as the code is being written.
Sid: Our recent Forrester study found that ultimate customers can decrease their incident response times from one month to one hour.
USAA is one of our longest standing customers.
Sid: With Ultimate, they have been able to boost the productivity and efficiency of their developers by setting and enforcing security and compliance scans and shifting security left.
In addition, a large global supermarket chain with 12...
Sid: 1,000 stores in 18 countries upgraded to Ultimate to take advantage of our platform's full suite of security and compliance features.
Sid: With Ultimate, they've told us they expect to save 90 minutes.
Sid: per developer per day on manual security tasks and reduce costs by $10-$15 million per year. Ultimate is also attracting new customers like Prometheus Group, a provider of enterprise asset management software for plans and facilities.
Sid: They chose GitLab to increase security and compliance with a single all-in-one platform while also consolidating their toolchain and increasing visibility across projects.
Sid: In fact, 9 of our top 10 largest new first order customers in Q3 all purchased Ultimate. In the third quarter, GitLab Advanced SAST became generally available for all our Ultimate customers.
Sid: Advanced SAST is powered by technology we acquired with the acquisition of Oxide. It uses a proprietary detection engine to identify exploitable vulnerabilities in first-party code.
Sid: This delivers more accurate results so developers and security teams don't have to sort through the noise of false positive results. And unlike other standalone security scanners, Advanced SaaS is natively built into the GitLab DevSecOps platform.
Sid: This provides a developer experience free from the overhead that comes with integrating multiple point solutions.
Sid: is also driving demand for Ultimate. To leverage Dedicated, customers must be on Ultimate.
Sid: Because Dedicated is fully managed by GitLab, customers can achieve quicker time-to-value compared to hosting the platform themselves, while maintaining high security and compliance standards.
Enterprise Work Management Platform Smartsheet.
Purchase Dedicated through a Hyperscaler Partner.
to remove the need for maintenance, reduce infrastructure costs.
and give teams time back for innovation.
Sid: all while ensuring they have a highly reliable software development process.
Sid: Blackstone, the world's largest alternative asset manager, purchase dedicated for toolchain consolidation, compliance and visibility.
Sid: dedicated also contributed to a record quarter in our public sector business.
Sid: and we are building momentum with our in-process designation for FedRAMP Moderate.
Sid: The U.S. General Services Administration, our agency sponsor for FedRAMP, selected GitLab dedicated for government.
Sid: Dedicated will reduce the burden of building new tools and will establish a factory floor with an end-to-end FISMA compliant desk sack office platform.
Sid: GitLab is a great choice for highly regulated industries, and I am pleased with our performance in this market. I want to finish by saying thank you, first, to our team members for living our values and mission.
Sid: to our customers for placing their trust in us, and our partners for their support, and finally, to the wider GitLab community. And with that, I'll turn it over to Brian.
Speaker Change: Thank you, Sid, and welcome, Bill. I'm really pleased with our Q3 FY25 results, which exceeded our expectations. We built off the momentum we saw in Q2 and continue to deliver against our commitment to profitable growth.
Brian Robbins: Q3 revenue reached $196 million, an increase of 31% from Q3 of the prior year, and we delivered a record non-gap operating margin.
Brian Robbins: We now have 9,519 customers with ARR of at least $5,000, which contributed over 95% of total ARR in Q3.
Brian Robbins: In particular, we monitor performance of our larger customer cohort of $100,000-plus in ARR, which increased 31% this quarter and reached
Brian Robbins: As a scale, this cohort continues to make significant investments in Ultimate, including our top seven deals in the quarter.
Brian Robbins: We're also seeing new customers land with GitLab Duo. In Q3, this included five six-figure first-order deals that included Duo. On the expansion front, we ended the quarter with a dollar-based net retention rate, or DBNRR, of 124%.
Brian Robbins: Q3 DBNRR was driven by a combination of seed expansion at approximately 50%, increased customer yield at approximately 40%, and tier upgrades at approximately 10%.
Brian Robbins: Total RPO grew 48% year-over-year to $811.8 million, while CRPO grew 39% year-over-year to $515.2 million.
Brian Robbins: We encourage investors to look at these metrics over a multi-quarter period.
Brian Robbins: Nine Gap gross margin was 91% for the quarter. The team continues to do a very good job of driving operating efficiencies to maintain our best in class gross margin. SAS now represents 29% of total revenue and grew 44% year over year.
Brian Robbins: The considerable traction we are getting with GitLab Dedicated is helping drive this momentum.
Brian Robbins: Once again, we saw a significant increase in operating leverage. Q3 non-gap operating income was $25.9 million dollars.
compared to $4.7 million in Q3 of last year.
Brian Robbins: Similar to Q2, we dropped our revenue outperformance to the bottom line, which in combination with the team's focus on execution, translated to a record non-GAAP operating margin of 13.2% compared to 3.1% in Q3 of last year. This is an increase of more than 1,000 basis points year over year.
Brian Robbins: As we scale, our land and expand model becomes increasingly efficient, which allows us to both invest in future growth, while also driving operational efficiencies.
Brian Robbins: Q3 FY25 adjusted free cash flow was $9.7 million compared to negative $6.7 million in the prior year period.
Brian Robbins: Cash from operating activities was negative $177 million in the third quarter compared to negative $6 million in the prior year period.
Brian Robbins: Cash flow from operations reflects the conclusion of the Bilateral Advanced Pricing Agreement, or APA, with the IRS and the Netherlands Dutch Tax Authority.
Brian Robbins: In addition to the third quarter payment of $188 million to the Dutch Tax Authority, which resulted from the APA negotiations, we have reserved an additional $10 million to be paid to the IRS.
Brian Robbins: Although we have petitioned for an abatement of this amount, we expect it to be finalized in Q4.
Now turning to guidance.
Brian Robbins: For the fourth quarter of FY25, we expect total revenue of $205 million to $206 million, representing a growth rate of 25% to 26% year-over-year.
Brian Robbins: We expect non-GAAP operating income of $28 million to $29 million. And we expect a non-GAAP net income per share of $0.22 to $0.23, assuming $170 million weighted average diluted share is outstanding.
Brian Robbins: For the full year FY25, we expect total revenue of $753 million to $754 million, representing a growth rate of approximately 30% year-over-year.
Brian Robbins: We expect a non-GAAP operating income of $69 million to $70 million, and we expect a non-GAAP net income per share of $0.63 to $0.64, assuming $168 million weighted average diluted share is outstanding.
Brian Robbins: Separately, I would like to provide an update on Jihu, our China joint venture. In Q3 FY25, nine GAAP expenses related to Jihu were $3.5 million compared to $4.3 million in Q3 of last year.
Brian Robbins: Our goal remains to deconsolidate GEHU. However, we cannot predict the likelihood or timing of when this may potentially occur. Thus, for FY25 modeling purposes, we forecast approximately $14 million of expenses related to GEHU compared with $18 million last year.
Brian Robbins: In summary, Q3 was another strong quarter driven by demand for our leading AI-powered DevSecOps platform. To help our customers build better software, GitLab brings together developers, security experts, and operations teams on a single platform to collaborate, improve quality, and prioritize security.
Brian Robbins: In a time when there is intense demand for software, this allows customers to both drive innovation and reduce cycle times.
Brian Robbins: This is a large market that is ripe for consolidation and I'm confident in our ability to build long-term shareholder value.
Brian Robbins: The team is focused on a strong close to the year, and we look forward to seeing many of you over the coming weeks. Thank you all for joining today. With that, I'll turn it over to Kelsey, who will moderate the Q&A.
Kelsey Turcotte: Thanks, Brian. At this time, if you'd like to ask a question, please use the raise hand function, or if you join via phone, you may press star nine. We also request that you limit yourself to one question and one follow up. We'll take our first question from Koji Ikeda of Bank of America. Koji, go ahead.
Koji Ikeda: Yeah, hey guys, thanks so much for taking the questions. I wanted to ask a question, actually, before that, Sid,
Koji Ikeda: Real high level here. Thank you for everything you've done for the DevSecOps industry as CEO of GitLab. We wish you very much the best on your journeys from here. And Bill, great to meet you. And hi, Brian.
Koji Ikeda: Okay, so first question, Brian, you know, this is a numbers game here and you just beat the midpoint of your guidance by 4.6%. And so what stood out from this quarter that was maybe above the less conservative guidance posture that you had from earlier this year?
Brian Robbins: Thanks, Koji. Appreciate the question. You know, this quarter was a strong quarter across the board. We executed well across all fronts.
Brian Robbins: A couple of things I'd like to point out is, in the prepared remarks, Sid said this was the best quarter in PubSec that we've had in the company history.
Brian Robbins: Ultimate continues to perform really well. 48% of total ARR now. It was greater than 50% of bookings. Net dollar retention, you know, was strong and 124% remains best in class.
Brian Robbins: CRPO at 39%. And so last thing I'll mention is turning contraction as a percent of available to renew. It was the best quarter we had in the last 12 quarters. And so every aspect of the business performed really well, really driven by the strength of the enterprise. So really happy how we ended the quarter.
Speaker Change: Got it. Thanks, Brian. And for a follow-up here, fourth quarter guide, revenue guidance looks about 25.5% at the midpoint. So as we're thinking about the next 12 months, anything other than the law of larger numbers, is there anything we should be thinking about that would cause that exit growth rate to meaningfully slow from there?
Speaker Change: You know from a from a guidance perspective, you know, we'll give you next year's guidance on the next call
Speaker Change: We have a number of different growth vectors that we've talked about. You know, the dual enterprise SKU, you know, dedicated agile planning. It's just important to note that these things take time to ramp. You know, roughly $800 million in revenue grown 30%. You know, it takes a while for them to make a meaningful impact.
Thank you.
Speaker Change: Thank you, Koji. Next question goes to Sanjit Singh of Morgan Family. Sanjit, go ahead.
Sanjit Singh: Hi, thank you for taking the questions and congrats Bill and congratulations Sid on an outstanding career. Looking forward to what you do.
Um, uh, back.
Sanjit Singh: I guess I wanted to talk a little bit about the category and how, Sydney, you mentioned the move to.
Sanjit Singh: of AI in this category. And I wanted to see like how you anticipate that playing out. Is that sort of going to be in conjunction and parallel with co-pilots? Does it sort of subsume code assistants and co-pilots? And what do you think is going to be GitLab's sort of strategic advantage when it comes to agents and agentic architectures?
Speaker Change: Yeah, thanks for that question. Both are going to exist in parallel. So you'll have GitLab Duo Pro assisting people with coding, GitLab Duo Enterprise helping people with everything else that they need to do their job from planning to securing and everything else.
Speaker Change: On the other hand, you'll have the AI taking more initiative, being proactive. That's the agentic AI, the dual workflow.
Speaker Change: And we have an advantage there because we have an end-to-end solution. Our application does everything from planning all the way to deploying. And what's really important with AI is not so much the models anymore. The state-of-the-art models are all really, really good.
Speaker Change: Two things are important in agentic AI. You give them the right context. For example, it's good that they not only know about the code base, but also what your plans are with the applications. It's great to have planning in GitLab as well, so we can give that context.
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Speaker Change: So that's our strategic advantage. It's again the end-to-end platform. It not only makes things easier for humans, faster cycle by 10x, it makes things easier for the AI agents as well.
Speaker Change: And as a follow up, I'm here in AWS re-event, I'm sure a number of us are. You made a pretty big announcement with AWS and their Q offering.
Speaker Change: I guess the question there is, it sounds like it's limited to self-hosted, at least out of the gate. Does that integration ultimately show up in a SaaS offering with GitLab Cloud? And commercially, do you think that can be a driver for the business as well?
Yeah, we're super, super excited about this partnership with AWS.
Speaker Change: We were mentioned as a partner in the main keynote from Gatmar at Garmin. It was very, very exciting. And it's not just us at GitLab that are excited. Our joint customers are excited. We got more than 1,000 visits to our booth the day of the announcement.
Speaker Change: So, incredible response. We want to make things better for our joint customers.
Speaker Change: And right now that's in closed beta, and it's accessible to beta participants who are GitLab ultimate self-managed customers. But you might remember our GitLab dedicated offering, that is launched on AWS.
Speaker Change: is where a lot of our customers are. And we can't wait to bring it to the joint offering to get lab dedicated, but we don't have a timeline for that yet.
Understood. Congrats.
Speaker Change: Thanks Sanjit. Next question goes to Matt Hedberg of RBC. Matt, go ahead.
Thanks guys, can you hear me?
Matt Hedberg: Yeah, we can now. Okay, great. Thanks, Kelsey. Sid, first of all, congrats on everything you've done for GitLab. It's just been a real pleasure to work with you and Bill.
Matt Hedberg: Congrats on the role. We look forward to working with you in greater detail here. There's a lot of good details that you presented with us to dig in. I guess, could I start with just a macro buying question? It certainly seems like you guys are doing exceptionally well here.
Brian Robbins: Hey Matt, this is Brian. Let me start on that. And so, you know, you know, let me start off high level and talk about sort of the macro and I'll talk a little bit specifics around GitLab.
Brian Robbins: And so on the macro, you know, we're seeing what other companies are seeing. And so no changes there. You know, people are buying GitLab for the value that we deliver. And so the payback period is pretty quick. So I would say that we're resilient there.
from a specific to a GitLab perspective.
Speaker Change: Got it. Thanks. Thanks, Brian. And then maybe one, I don't think it came up too much in the script, but, you know, we continue to hear a lot of good things about your enterprise agile planning module. I'm curious, could you talk a little bit about that, you know, where you're seeing success? Are you seeing, you know, some JIRA replacements more these days? Just sort of curious on an update there. Thanks.
Speaker Change: Yeah, thank you so much and thanks for your kind words so.
Speaker Change: The Enterprise Agile Planning, it's a really important part of GitLab Ultimate. We're still in the early stages of this market opportunity and we will further enhance this functionality.
Speaker Change: But planning is an essential part of the DevSecOps lifecycle and doing that for the largest customers is amazing.
Speaker Change: And, for example, a North American Professional Sports League will leverage GitLab's Enterprise Agile Planning offering as part of a broader effort
Speaker Change: to streamline its technology stack. And this will allow them to reduce reliance on Atlassian products like Jira and Bamboo, and they're gonna enhance their efficiency across their development and operations team.
Great, thanks. Rob from Piper-Stangler, your question's next.
Speaker Change: Great, thank you for taking my question and best wishes to you and your family. Given some of the productivity gains that you guys talked about from Duo and obviously some exciting metrics,
Speaker Change: How are conversations with customers just around developer seats and thought process moving forward? And then I guess more tangibly, just what is the pricing yield that you're seeing as you're adding Duo to these seats? Are you getting full price, near full price? We'd love to just get a sense. Thanks.
Yeah, thanks, Jerome. Appreciate the question. This is Brian.
Speaker Change: You know, on Duo, very, like I said, very happy with where we landed for the quarter. We're seeing a lot of
Speaker Change: a lot of deals and for the top five deals that we had, first order deals, they all had Duo attached to it.
Speaker Change: And Duo itself, when it's attached to a deal, if you look at the net ARR, Duo makes up over 25% of the total net ARR in year one. And so a number of people are deploying Duo and seeing the productivity gains up to 50%. And so the feedback we've been getting from the customers has been extremely positive.
Speaker Change: Great, thank you. Any, I guess, any comment on the seat side of things, just in terms of how customers are thinking about seats, given the productivity gains you guys articulated earlier?
Speaker Change: Yeah, I think there, you know, when you look at seats the way that, you know, obviously we have a long tail of customers and so this is sort of talking broadly for our customer base and what we're seeing on some of the implementation.
Speaker Change: And so when they're buying, you know, when they come to GitLab and buying Duo, they're buying it for most of their users, but they're doing more of a rolled out approach on implementing. And so, you know, say a customer will buy 100 to 150 seats, they'll roll out, you know, a subset of that over time to different groups within the organization.
All right, thanks.
Speaker Change: Great, thank you. Next question goes to Joel Fishbein at Truix.
Joel Fishbein: Thank you for taking that question, Sid. Wishing you the best as well, and Bill, congrats on the new role. Sid, I'm going to ask something that was sort of on top of what Sanjay asked earlier, which was
Joel Fishbein: You know, two things are happening. One is that people are skeptics out there say that the market's saturated, obviously, your acceleration of revenue growth.
Joel Fishbein: says that that's not true, number one. Number two is, as part of that, how much, what inning do you think that we're in, in terms of this, you know, vendor consolidation and these disparate tools, and how much room do we have to go from that standpoint? Thank you.
Yeah, thanks for that, Joel.
Speaker Change: We believe it's still early. We think that the vast, vast majority of enterprises, they are on DIY DevOps today. They have so-called best-in-class solutions, but they have all kinds of point solutions. And the really hard part is integrating that.
Speaker Change: And you know our revenue. You can make an estimate about GitHub's revenue and then you look at the market. It's a $40 billion market.
Speaker Change: And whatever your estimate is for GitHub, that means that we're in a very early inning here. I would say we're in the first inning.
And so that's why we're here.
Speaker Change: so excited about this market. And we see every time that we can make those replacements, the more point solutions they replace, the better the result. And every month GitLab becomes better, and we're able to replace more of those point solutions. We're better, we're better able to take out more of them when we have an implementation.
Speaker Change: That's great, thanks. And Brian, just a real quick follow-up. Great outperformance on the margin side of the business. I know you've always historically said, Brian, it's prioritizing growth over profitability, but I'd love to know how we're thinking about margins going forward.
Brian Robbins: Yeah, thanks, Joel. We're super happy with the increased operating leverage we can continue to get in the model. We look at doing that across the entire enterprise.
Brian Robbins: You know, when we went public, we talked about, you know, there may be some pressure on our non-gap gross margins due to the increase in SAAS. You know, SAAS has grown 44% year over year and is now 29% of our total revenue. And we've still been able to maintain best-in-class non-gap gross margins of 91%.
Brian Robbins: So I'm happy with how we've done there. Sales and marketing E to R is the best it's been in company history this quarter. And so we continue to work on margin. Our number one thing is to grow, but we'll do that responsibly. And so we continue to invest in growth.
Brian Robbins: the new SKUs, AI, and so forth. But we're doing that responsibly. And so that's what you saw this quarter, you know, from 3Q25 to 3Q24, you know, we had over 1000 basis points improvement.
Great. Thank you so much. Thanks, Joel.
Speaker Change: Next question goes to Cash Reingan at Goldman Sachs. Cash, go ahead.
I thank you very much, Sid, all the very best.
And Bill, congratulations. Hello, Brian. So Bill.
Wondering if you could share your insights into Granada.
Speaker Change: You're going to be getting to know the business in more and more detail as you really immerse yourself in the role, but
What do you see, what did you see at GitLab?
Speaker Change: and what do you see as the playbook that you can bring to the company given your experience?
Speaker Change: at other formidable tech companies before. And how would you go about it in your own unique imprint to realize the full potential of GitLab while you have somebody who is fantastic like Sid still on board? Thank you so much.
Speaker Change: Thank you, Cash. I really am thrilled to be here. I mean, if you just listen to this narrative and look at the numbers, who wouldn't want to be a part of GitLab? I've spent nearly my entire career building software for developers, and I have a ton of respect for what Syd and the GitLab team has done, and the fit really is perfect.
Speaker Change: For our customers, GitLab is a strategic partnership because we set the heart of their software development process.
Speaker Change: and we directly help them increase the quality, the speed, and the security of their software. And that drives direct improvements to their business.
Speaker Change: I also believe there's just an enormous opportunity ahead of us. Sid just described it as the first inning.
Speaker Change: As I look at recent technology trends, including all the rapid advancements in AI, I believe the ability for software to transform our world
Speaker Change: is enormous. And GitLab can play a central role in unlocking that transformation.
Speaker Change: I really couldn't be more excited to leave the company, and my immediate priority is to spend time with our customers, our partners, GitLab team members around the world, and all of you to learn how I can better serve as CEO. So, thanks for the question.
Great. Next question goes to Sharna Kothari at Baird.
Sharna Kothari: Great, thanks for taking my question. Again, wishing you said a swift recovery and healthy future and welcome Bill. It's great to interact with you back in the day at the Future Stacks.
Sharna Kothari: Good to hear you outline your vision for GitLab. Of course, we'll look forward to hearing more from you. And of course, you mentioned about the excitement about AI and also heard from Sytse about gigantic AI and do a workflow. All of that sounds super exciting. Just on the GitLab ultimate, that's kind of hit a big milestone, 48% of
Sharna Kothari: Total ARR reflects strong customer adoption. Of course, you talked about DigitalApp Duo Enterprise. It's driving significant upsell just on a high level.
Just curious, uh, said...
Speaker Change: What are you guys seeing in terms of, like, any inflection for...
Speaker Change: for features like integrated security, compliance, which of course we have heard before, it's always had a kind of a slower adoption curve overall for our stealth tech ops and mostly tied to organizational challenges. Just could you help us provide some color on anything which is evolving, changing and primary factors which is now driving this acceleration? Thank you.
Speaker Change: Thanks for that. Yeah, GitLab Ultimate is doing really well and over time its features are becoming better and I think one remarkable thing was the advanced SaaS launch. We acquired Oxide and we were able to really quickly turn that into a much better product offering.
Speaker Change: will have fewer false positives, they can focus on what matters and are not don't have to do work that doesn't matter. But it also helps to inform the AI to
into the whole workflow where you are at.
Speaker Change: We see that customers are able to be more secure on more projects more of the time if it's totally integrated, and that's a big reason for customers to buy Ultimate.
Speaker Change: Great, thanks. We're going to go to one question now just for efficiency. Next up is Ryan McWilliams from Barclays.
Hey, thanks for the question. For Sid,
Any differences in adoption between Duo Pro and Duo Enterprise?
Speaker Change: Adoption at this point. And then where are your customers stand overall in terms of their developer tool AI rollout, like, have they done tests use cases today and then now ready to, you know, go from like initial ROI to broader throughout the organization? Or do you think that's more of a 2025 story as they just familiarize themselves with your AI tools?
Speaker Change: Yeah, so what we're seeing is that if a customer is on GitLab Ultimate and they're really bought into using GitLab end-to-end, that Duo Enterprise is the better candidate. So
That's been amazing to see.
I think if you talk about Duo workflow.
Speaker Change: We're very very early. It's in the hands of a few customers, but We're looking forward to a beta this winter, but we're early. It's it's
Speaker Change: Don't expect a lot this fiscal year. This is the future. We're working on it and it will come and we're doing our best to make sure it's great and that it's secure.
Thank you.
Michael.
Michael: Yeah, there you go. I was waiting for the notification. Sorry. I wanted to ask Sid the sort of the mirror question of what Cash asked earlier. Certainly wishing you the best fit, but I think it'd be useful just to hear more on your thoughts on Bill, what made him the right fit, anything you saw from the experience perspective, and really just thinking about the stage that GitLab is at in terms of maturity, all the new product innovation and efforts you're rolling out. Just kind of would just love to hear your thoughts on the overall transition there. Thanks.
Speaker Change: Thanks, Michael. Yeah, I couldn't be more excited than with Bill as a successor. I think he's a perfect fit for GitLab.
a lot of CEOs and
Speaker Change: I haven't found anyone with that is such a kind of
Good fit with us.
Speaker Change: Bill has amazing leadership qualities. He's learned from the best leaders. He's a great leader himself. But he also really cares about the software process. He's been a software developer himself.
Speaker Change: He has been in this market. He knows what the market is like, what our users are like, what our buyers are like. Of course, he's going to go on tour and speak to our customers. But this is someone who...
Speaker Change: cares very deeply about it and has the operational skills to
write an amazing next chapter for GitLab.
Speaker Change: Thank you. Next question goes to Gray Powell at BTIG. Gray, go ahead.
Okay, great. Can you hear me?
Speaker Change: Thanks, Kelsey. I'll keep this one short to help speed things along. Question for Brian, just how do you feel about your visibility on the pipeline and the demand environment today versus six and 12 months ago?
Yeah, thanks, Gray. Appreciate the question.
Brian Robbins: You know, when we went and talked about Q3, there wasn't many changes from Q2 nor Q1.
Brian Robbins: And so, you know, there's been a, as I mentioned, there's still, you know, the spin environment out there. We're seeing what others are seeing. It's cautious, but we haven't seen a lot of great fluctuations. And so, you know, we had enough confidence to pass through the beat and raise for the year and so happy with where the pipeline is for 4Q.
Okay, thank you.
Speaker Change: Next question goes to Pendulum Bora at J.P. Morgan. Pendulum, go ahead.
Speaker Change: Oh, great. Thank you for taking the questions. Sid, all the best and welcome Bill. I want to talk about agentic again. As AI agents kind of become a reality with every software developer, you know, might have potentially ephemeral agents working for them. How do you envision GitLab's pricing model evolving to fit that world over time?
Speaker Change: That's a great question. And the background is, hey, if the agents do the work, and it's not directly tied to a user, how do you price that? Do you still price that per seat?
Speaker Change: And I can't comment on future pricing, but I've already given some ideas of why Bill is great. One of the things he's also overseen at...
at New Relic is a move to consumption pricing.
Speaker Change: That's not the reason we brought him in. We brought him in because he's a great leader, but it never hurts. And despite kind of...
It going to
that like pricing maybe differently for these workflows.
Speaker Change: We do see a great future for people working in software.
Speaker Change: And if you look at AI, it's making it easier for people to get on in software with Duo, it's easier to program something. So
Speaker Change: I'm not going to give forecasts or pre-announce pricing, but those are my thoughts. Thank you.
That was great.
Speaker Change: Thanks, Pendulum. Next and final question goes to Nick Altman at Scotiabank. Nick, go ahead.
Awesome.
Thank you. Wishing you all the best.
Speaker Change: My question is on the ultimate premium mix. And it sounds like Duo Enterprise is gaining some nice traction, especially with the net new customers.
Speaker Change: and being a driver for Ultimate Adoption. But when you're talking to customers, can you just talk about how much of a driver for digital enterprises for customers maybe looking to upgrade from Premium to Ultimate? And then
Speaker Change: As we kind of think about that dynamic going forward and potentially more of that new customers landing in Ultimate, how should we think about the pace of mix shift as it pertains to ARR from Ultimate versus Premium?
Sharlene Seemungal
Yeah, I think there's different, there's different customers.
We talked about the Emirates becoming a customer.
And they combine ultimate with Duo Pro.
Speaker Change: There's also a ton of customers combining Ultimate with Duo Enterprise, so it's going to vary by customer.
Speaker Change: I think we should recognize that it's also going to evolve over time. What's important to us is that we are end-to-end with customers.
and we're super excited about...
Sharlene Seemungal.
Speaker Change: working with the hyperscalers to make sure that customers use all of GitLab.
We're also making...
Speaker Change: progress with the system integrators of the world, making sure people get all the value out of GitLab.
Speaker Change: If you look at how much functionality GitLab offers, there's very few companies.
Speaker Change: using everything to date. So that's a big thing we can focus on, making sure to use more of the platform and get even more value. And even though nobody uses everything of GitLab, they already have a 480% return in three years. Think about all the features we're still gonna add. Think about all the features we still can get adopted.
Speaker Change: That's where a lot of the leverage is. Use more of GitLab, become even better in writing software. And yeah, the AI is helping. Even without the AI, it's already great. And the AI, I think the adoption in the future is going to be greater and greater.