Q4 2024 Inspirato Inc Earnings Call
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Speaker Change: During the session you will need to press star one on your telephone you will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised to withdraw your question. Please press star. One again, please be advised to the conference is being recorded I would now like to turn the conference over to your speaker for today, Kyle sort Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Payam Zamani: By our estimate, there are millions of households around the globe that fit our potential member profile, including a substantial and untapped domestic market. And our mission is clear, find them, engage them, and show them the undeniable value of this product. It is not just about short-term growth, it is about attracting and retaining the right members who will drive long-term success. To make this happen, we're making bold investments. We're elevating our brand to be synonymous with true luxury. We're enhancing our platform to create a seamless, intelligent and highly personalized experience.
Kyle: Good morning.
Thank you for watching!
On today's call, we have chairman and CEO <unk> <unk> CFO, Michael Arthur and other members of management, including Chief Accounting Officer, Jessica Chen and Chief experience Officer Ashley columns.
Kyle: Yesterday afternoon, we issued a press release announcing our fourth quarter and full year 2024 results as well as our 2025 guidance.
Payam Zamani: We've strengthened our leadership team with recent hires of an SVP marketing and chief technology officer. We have launched a sophisticated rebrand, modernizing our look and feel. And we are revamping our website and user interface to be more intuitive and predictive based on our members' travel habits.
Kyle: As a reminder, some of today's comments are forward looking statements. These statements are based on assumptions and actual results could differ materially. In addition, during the call. We will discuss non-GAAP measures, which are useful in evaluating the company's operating performance.
Payam Zamani: At the same time, we are focused on improving our operating efficiencies. We now have the right people in the right seats, and we're investing our time and dollars into initiatives that will have the biggest impact. As Michael will discuss shortly, this focus is expected to drive further improvements in gross margin, cost structure, and profitability. Of course, while many of our homes are iconic and much of our service is world-class, we know there's always room to improve. There's an opportunity we embrace. In 2025, we're investing in refreshing our homes decor in more than half of our portfolio and standardizing concierge training to ensure every member enjoys the same high quality experience every time they travel with And that brings me to one of our greatest strengths and why I'm so optimistic about our future.
Kyle: These measures should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for our financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP.
Kyle: Reconciliations of these measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are included in our earnings release.
Speaker Change: With that I'd like to turn the call over to our chairman and CEO pie on the money.
Speaker Change: Thank you Carl and good morning, everyone I'm really excited for today's call for a number of reasons.
Speaker Change: First we get to share with you our results for Q4, and how our efforts over the past six months have been strengthening our foundation evidenced by what may be the strongest Q4 results and its broader history as a public company.
Speaker Change: Second our refined long term vision for the company, including key goals for 2025 that will set us up for lasting success.
Speaker Change: These measures should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for our financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP.
Payam Zamani: And that's why I remember. At the end of the day, everything we do is about exceeding their expectations when we consistently deliver. We are not only reinforcing a decision to stay with Inspirato, but also deepen their connection to the incredible community we're building.
Speaker Change: In a moment you will hear about how we delivered profitability and positive free cash flow in Q4, along with our plans to achieve full year profitability. In 2025. These are important milestones that indicate our efforts are producing the desired results.
Speaker Change: Reconciliations of these measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are included in our earnings release.
Speaker Change: With that I'd like to turn the call over to our chairman and CEO Pi in the money.
Payam Zamani: That is what excites me the most about the future of this business.
Speaker Change: We're just getting started we are at the beginning of a multiyear journey and while we have made great progress. The real opportunity lies ahead driving sustainable profitable growth and elevated <unk> Bravo into <unk>.
Pi: Thank you Paul and good morning, everyone I'm really excited for today's call for a number of reasons.
Payam Zamani: On that note, I want to highlight some of the 2024 financial results, which are the first signs that our strategy is working and will continue to play out over the next 12 to 24 months. We finished the year with total revenue of $280 million and adjusted EBITDA loss of $6.5 million. both within our original guidance range. While revenue was down nearly $50 million year-over-year, it just improved by $20 million. And we ended 2024 with a profitable fourth quarter. Even more exciting, we generated $6.9 million in net cash from operating activities in Q4, a first for each product as a public company.
Pi: First we get to share with you our results for Q4, and how our efforts over the past six months have been strengthening our foundation evidenced by what may be the strongest Q4 results and its broader history as a public company.
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Speaker Change: The Great news is that we are in a good position to make this happen we're operating in a large market with incredible potential backed by a strong well recognized brands.
Pi: Second our refined long term vision for the company, including key goals for 2025 that will set us up for lasting success.
Speaker Change: Portfolio of World class homes, and they are loyal and engaged member base.
We serve over 11000 members, but the opportunity is far greater by our estimate there are millions of households around the globe that fit our potential amendment profile, including a substantial and untapped domestic market and.
Pi: In a moment you will hear about how we delivered profitability and positive free cash flow in Q4, along with our plan to achieve full year profitability. In 2025. These are important milestones that indicate our efforts are producing the desired results.
Payam Zamani: Michael will dive deeper into these numbers in a Looking ahead to 2025, our focus remains on achieving full year profitability in a way that strengthens our ability to serve our members.
Speaker Change: And our mission is clear find them engage them and show them the undeniable value of its product.
Pi: We're just getting started we are at the beginning of a multiyear journey and while we have made great progress. The real opportunity lies ahead driving sustainable profitable growth and elevated <unk> Bravo into even.
Speaker Change: It is not just about short term growth it is about attracting and retaining the right members, who will drive long term success.
Payam Zamani: We expect to be profitable in 2025 and deliver between $235 million and $255 million in revenue, which is consistent with our fourth quarter annual But beyond the numbers, here's why I see, here's how I see the future. The luxury travel and experiences market is vast and it is growing. And it's ripe for true leadership. No company has firmly established itself as a brand that defines this category. And there's no reason why that shouldn't be its product. We have the foundation, the vision, and the expertise to lead the way, setting the standard for what luxury hospitality should be, and the ability to reach a target audience as effectively as possible.
Speaker Change: To make this happen, we're making bold investments, we're elevating our brand to be synonymous with true luxury.
Pi: Even more sought after their brand.
Pi: The Great news is that we are in a good position to make this happen we're operating in a large market with incredible potential backed by a strong well recognized brand.
Speaker Change: We're enhancing our platform to create a seamless intelligent and highly personalized experience with.
Speaker Change: We've strengthened our leadership team with recent hires over the SVP marketing and Chief Technology Officer.
Pi: Portfolio of World class homes, and they are loyal and engaged member base.
Pi: We serve over 11000 members, but the opportunity is far greater by our estimate there are millions of households around the globe that fit our potential amendment profile, including a substantial and untapped domestic market and.
Speaker Change: We have launched a sophisticated rebrand modernizing our look and feel and we are revamping our website and user interface to be more intuitive and predicted based on our members' travel habits.
Speaker Change: At the same time, we are focused on improving our operating efficiencies.
Pi: And our mission is clear find them engage them and show them the undeniable value of its product.
Speaker Change: We now have the right people in the right seats, and we are investing our time and dollars into initiatives that will have the biggest impact as Michael will discuss shortly this focus is expected to drive further improvements in gross margin cost structure and profitability.
Pi: It is not just about short term growth it is about attracting and retaining the right members, who will drive long term success.
Payam Zamani: That's what brought me to Inspirato, and that's what drives me every day as we build something truly extraordinary.
Pi: To make this happen, we're making bold investments, we're elevating our brand to be synonymous with true luxury.
Payam Zamani: In my initial six months at Inspirato, we did the necessary work to course correct. Now the multi-year effort to build a leading luxury travel and experiences company begins.
Speaker Change: Of course, while many of our homes are iconic and much of our services World class, We know Theres always room to improve there is an opportunity with them we embrace.
Pi: We're enhancing our platform to create a seamless intelligent and highly personalized experience with.
Payam Zamani: To achieve our goals, we have a three-pronged approach. A, we will tirelessly focus on operational efficiencies. This will be a never-ending endeavor.
Pi: We've strengthened our leadership team with recent hires are as SVP marketing and Chief Technology Officer.
In 2025, we're investing in refreshing our homes, the cord and more than half of our portfolio and standardizing confused training to ensure every member enjoys the same high quality experience every time they traveled with us.
We have launched a sophisticated rebrand modernizing our look and feel and we are revamping our website and user interface to be more intuitive and predicted based on our members' travel habits.
Payam Zamani: B. We will double our focus on the luxury aspect of our services and experiences.
Payam Zamani: See. We will turn Inspirato into a luxury travel and experiences company built on scalable technology and highly effective and world-class digital marketing platform. vastly reshaping our reach.
Speaker Change: And that brings me to one of our greatest strengths and why I'm, so optimistic about our future and that's why our members.
Pi: At the same time, we are focused on improving our operating efficiencies.
Speaker Change: At the end of the day everything we do is about exceeding their expectations when they consistently deliver.
Pi: We now have the right people in the right seats, and we are investing our time and dollars into initiatives that will have the biggest impact as Michael will discuss shortly this focus is expected to drive further improvements in gross margin cost structure and profitability.
Speaker Change: We are not only reinforcing a decision to stay with Bravo, but also deepened their connection to the incredible community we're building.
Payam Zamani: This is what I know. Well, this is what I've done for decades as one of the pioneers in performance based marketing on the Internet.
Speaker Change: That is what excites me the most about the future of this business.
Michael: Of course, while many of our homes are iconic and much of our services Warcraft, We know theres always room to improve there is an opportunity within we embrace.
Payam Zamani: We're excited about the road ahead and believe we have the right talent and the right strategy to deliver what we have set out to achieve.
Speaker Change: On that note I want to highlight some of the 'twenty 'twenty four financial results, which are the first signs that our strategy is working and will continue to play out over the next 12 to 24 months.
Payam Zamani: I will be sharing more with you as we make progress in 2025.
Michael: In 2025, we're investing in refreshing our homes, the cord and more than half of our portfolio and standardizing your training to ensure every member enjoys the same high quality experience every time they traveled with us.
Payam Zamani: Before I turn it over to Michael, I want to thank our team for their incredible dedication and hard work, and our members for their continued trust and support.
Speaker Change: We finished the year with total revenue of $280 million and adjusted EBITDA loss of $6 5 million.
Speaker Change: Both within our original guidance ranges, while revenue was down nearly $50 million year over year EBITDA improved by $20 million and we ended 2024 with a profitable fourth quarter.
Payam Zamani: I'm thrilled about what is ahead, and I look forward to connecting again soon to share our first quarter results. Thank you.
Michael: And that brings me to one of our greatest strengths and why I'm, so optimistic about our future and Thats what our members.
Michael Arthur: Thanks, Brian. I'd like to echo your comments, and I'm also really pleased with the progress we've made in the last quarter. I'm especially pleased to see the team's efforts reflected in our financial performance, which I'd like to highlight. We delivered approximately $2 million of positive EBITDA in Q4, a $7 million year-over-year improvement, and our best fourth quarter performance since going public. This marks our fourth consecutive quarter of year-over-year EBITDA improvement, reinforcing the impact of our strategic decisions. For the full year, our adjusted EBITDA loss of $6.5 million represents a $23 million, or 78%, year-over-year improvement in EBITDA.
Michael: At the end of the day everything we do is about exceeding their expectations when they consistently deliver.
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Michael: We are not only reinforcing a decision to stay with this bravo, but also deepened their connection to the incredible community we are building.
Michael: That is what excites me the most about the future of this business.
Speaker Change: Looking ahead to 2025, our focus remains on achieving full year profitability in a way that strengthens our ability to serve our members we expect to be profitable in 2025 and deliver between $235 million $255 million of revenue, which is consistent with our fourth quarter annualized revenue.
Michael: On that note I want to highlight some of the 2024 financial results, which are the first signs that our strategy is working and will continue to play out over the next 12 to 24 months.
Michael: We finished the year with total revenue of $280 million and adjusted EBITDA loss of $6 5 million.
Michael Arthur: In addition, we generate a positive free cash flow of approximately $6 million in the fourth quarter, a $13 million improvement compared to last year. As a reminder, this includes $3 million of one-time, non-recurring payments related to lease terminations of underperforming leases. Excluding these payments, free cash on an adjusted, normalized basis would be roughly $9 million for the quarter. We reduced our cash burn by 66% for the full year and our cash position increased by $11 million quarter over quarter, ending the year with $35 million.
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Michael: Both within our original guidance ranges, while revenue was down nearly $50 million year over year EBITDA improved by $20 million and we ended 2024 with a profitable fourth quarter.
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Michael Arthur: And lastly, when the 2024 beating or within the previously provided guidance ranges of revenue EBITDA and cash operating Now, let me provide additional context on the fourth quarter and four-year results before sharing our outlook for 2025. First, our EBITDA improvement on both the quarterly and annual basis was driven by improved gross margin and a rebalanced, more efficient cost structure. For the fourth quarter, we grew adjusted gross margin dollars, which excludes asset impairment and lease termination by 14%, to $22 million, or 35% of revenue, compared to $19 million, or 27% of revenue in Q4 2023. For the full year, we also expanded gross margin to 32% of revenue, or $89 million, compared to 29% of revenue in 2023.
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Michael Arthur: The significant improvement in gross margin expansion in the fourth quarter and the full year was driven by a lower cost of revenue as we continue to benefit from our portfolio optimization efforts. Fourth quarter cost of revenue was approximately $41 million, which is a 20% improvement compared to Q4 2023 of $51 million, driven primarily by lower leased and fixed costs within cost of revenue. In Q4, we achieved a 23% reduction in operating expenses, reflecting a more efficient cost structure aligned with revenue growth. For the full year, cash operating expenses came in at $104 million, well below our initial guidance and a substantial improvement from 2023 levels to $130 million, a 20% reduction.
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Speaker Change: Before I turn it over to Michael I want to thank our team for their incredible dedication and hard work and our members for their continued trust and support I'm thrilled about what is ahead and I look forward to connecting again soon to share our first quarter results. Thank you.
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Michael Arthur: We have made significant progress in aligning expenses with our current revenue levels, including payroll reductions and rationalization of non-payroll spend. We expect to see further improvements in the coming quarter, helping us move towards a more sustainable run rate in 2025.
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Michael: Thanks, Bob I'd like to Echo your comments that I'm also really pleased with the progress we've made in the last quarter.
Speaker Change: I'm, especially pleased to see our team's efforts reflected in our financial performance, which I would like to highlight.
Michael Arthur: As Brian mentioned, we have been very focused on margins and profits, and we believe growth should come once sustained profitability is achieved. Q4 total revenue was $63 million. This represents an 11% decrease year-over-year. For the year, we reported total revenue of $280 million, similar to the Q4 trends, full-year revenue decreased by 15% year-over-year. Each of the quarterly and annual revenue declines were a result of deliberate strategic decisions to reduce our PASS member base. While PASS remains a strategic product with a defined role in our business model, its previous structure was not well aligned with our long-term objectives.
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Speaker Change: We delivered approximately $2 million of positive EBITDA in Q4, a $7 million year over year improvement in our best fourth quarter performance since going public.
Speaker Change: We're excited about the road ahead and believe we have the right talent and the right strategy to deliver what we have set out to achieve and we'll be sharing more with you as we make progress in 2025.
Speaker Change: Our fourth consecutive quarter of year over year, EBITDA improvement reinforcing the impact of our strategic decisions and for the full year, our adjusted EBITDA loss of $6 5 million represents a $23 million or 78% year over year improvement in EBITDA.
Speaker Change: Before I turn it over to Michael I want to thank our team for their incredible dedication and hard work and our members for their continued trust and support I'm thrilled about what is ahead and I look forward to connecting again soon to share our first quarter results. Thank you.
Speaker Change: In addition, we generated a positive free cash flow of approximately $6 million in the fourth quarter at $13 million improvement compared to last year.
Speaker Change: As a reminder, this includes $3 million of one time nonrecurring payments related to lease terminations of underperforming leases.
Michael Arthur: In response, we refined the product to better fit our overall business strategy and prioritize a more balanced mix of club and PASS members. This included a strategic shift away from emphasizing new pass sales in 2024. As of the end of Q4, we had approximately 1,500 active pass subscriptions and 10,600 active club subscriptions. In total, we ended the quarter with approximately $35 million in cash, up $11 million from Q3. This includes $6 million in positive free cash flow and $5.5 million raised in capital. In 2024, our cash balance decreased by $7 million, compared to a $40 million decrease in 2023.
Michael: Thanks, Bob I'd like to Echo your comments that I'm also really pleased with the progress we've made in the last quarter.
Speaker Change: Lease payments free cash flow on an adjusted normalized basis would be roughly $9 million for the quarter.
Michael: I'm, especially pleased to see our team's efforts reflected in our financial performance, which I would like to highlight.
Speaker Change: We reduced our cash burn by 66% for the full year and our cash position increased by 11 million quarter over quarter and ended the year with $35 million.
Michael: We delivered approximately $2 million of positive EBITDA in Q4, a $7 million year over year improvement in our best fourth quarter performance since going public.
Speaker Change: And lastly, we ended 2024, beating or within the previously provided guidance ranges of revenue EBITDA and cash operating expenses.
Michael: Our fourth consecutive quarter of year over year, EBITDA improvement reinforcing the impact of our strategic decisions for.
Speaker Change: Now, let me provide additional context on our fourth quarter and full year results before sharing our outlook for 2025 first our EBITDAR improvement on both a quarterly and annual basis was driven by improved gross margin may rebalance to our efficient cost structure.
Michael: For the full year, our adjusted EBITDA loss of $6 5 million represents a $23 million or 78% year over year improvement in EBITDA.
Michael: In addition, we generate a positive free cash flow of approximately $6 million in the fourth quarter at $13 million improvement compared to last year. As a reminder, this includes $3 million of one time nonrecurring payments related to lease terminations of underperforming leases.
Speaker Change: For the fourth quarter, we grew adjusted gross margin dollars, which excludes asset impairment and lease termination by 14% for 2022.
Speaker Change: $22 million or 35% of revenue compared to $19 million or 27%.
Michael: Excluding these payments free cash flow on an adjusted normalized basis would be roughly $9 million for the quarter.
Speaker Change: Our revenue in Q4 of 2023.
Speaker Change: For the full year, we also expanded gross margin to 32% of revenue were $89 million compared to 29% of revenue in 2023.
Michael: We reduced our cash burn by 66% for the full year and our cash position increased by 11 million quarter over quarter and ending the year with $35 million.
Michael Arthur: Excluding financing activities in both years, our true operating cash flow for the year improved $42 million, despite a $50 million decrease in revenue. It's clear that the strategic decisions made over the past year have put us on stronger footing with a better trajectory towards sustainable and profitable growth. We have driven improved performance in 2024 by focusing our strategy and by operating with expense disciplines across the business. We have seen constraints breed creativity and drive continuous improvement in how we serve our members.
Speaker Change: The significant improvement in gross margin expansion in the fourth quarter and the full year was driven by lower cost of revenue as we continued to benefit from our portfolio optimization efforts.
Michael: And lastly, we entered 2024, beating or within the previously provided guidance ranges of revenue EBITDA and cash operating expenses.
Michael: Now, let me provide additional context on our fourth quarter and full year results before sharing our outlook for 2025 first our EBITDAR improvement on both a quarterly and annual basis was driven by improved gross margin and a rebalanced our efficient cost structure.
Speaker Change: This quarter cost of revenue was approximately $41 million, which is a 20% improvement compared to Q4 2023 of $51 million driven primarily by lower leased and fixed costs within cost of revenue.
Speaker Change: In Q4, we achieved a 23% reduction in operating expenses reflected a more efficient cost structure aligned with revenue growth for.
Michael: For the fourth quarter, we grew adjusted gross margin dollars, which excludes asset impairment and lease termination by 14% for 2020.
Michael Arthur: We intend to build upon our execution in 2024 and are excited about the momentum headed into 2025. Our goal in the year ahead is to make sure we are balancing investments for future profitable growth with increased efficiency across our organization, with our key focus areas on elevating the Inspirato brand and the experience our members have when traveling with us. With this, we expect to take the next step forward in our path to profitability as evidenced by our full-year adjusted EBITDA range of $0 to $5 million. From a cash operating expense standpoint, we expect to invest between $80 to $90 million, an improvement of approximately 15% compared to 2024.
Speaker Change: For the full year cash operating expenses came in at $104 million well below our initial guidance and a substantial improvement from 2023 levels of $130 million a 20% reduction.
Michael: $22 million or 35% of revenue compared to $19 million or 27%.
Michael: Our revenue in Q4 of 2023.
Michael: For the full year, we also expanded gross margin to 32% of revenue were $89 million compared to 29% of revenue in 2023.
Speaker Change: We have made significant progress on aligning expenses with our current revenue levels, including payroll reductions rationalization of non payroll spend we expect to see further improvements in.
Michael: A significant improvement in gross margin expansion in the fourth quarter and the full year was driven by lower cost of revenue as we continue to benefit from our portfolio optimization efforts.
Speaker Change: In the coming quarters, helping us move towards a more sustainable run rate in 2025.
Speaker Change: As Brian mentioned, we have been very focused on margins and profits and we believe grocery com one sustained profitability is achieved.
Michael: Fourth quarter cost of revenue was approximately $41 million, which is a 20% improvement compared to Q4 2023 of $51 million driven primarily by lower leased and fixed costs within cost of revenue.
Speaker Change: Q4 total revenue was $63 million. This represents a 11% decrease year over year for the for the year. We reported total revenue of $280 million similar to the Q4 trends full year revenue decreased by 15% year over year.
Michael Arthur: Meanwhile, total revenue is expected to be between $235 million and $255 million, consistent with our fourth quarter annualized revenue. Similar to 2024, the revenue decrease is primarily associated with a decreased past subscription.
Michael: In Q4, we achieved a 23% reduction in operating expenses reflected a more efficient cost structure aligned with revenue growth.
Speaker Change: Each of the quarterly and annual revenue declines are a result of deliberate strategic decisions to reduce our past member base, while past remains a strategic product with a defined role in our business model. Its previous structure was not well aligned with our long term objectives.
Michael: For the full year cash operating expenses came in at $104 million well below our initial guidance and a substantial improvement from 2023 levels of $130 million a 20% reduction.
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Michael: We have made significant progress on aligning expenses with our current revenue levels, including payroll reductions.
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Michael: In the coming quarters, helping us move towards a more sustainable run rate in 2025.
Speaker Change: As of the end of Q4, we had approximately 500 active pass subscriptions and 10600 active cloud subscriptions.
Michael: As Brian mentioned, we have been very focused on margins and profits and we believe grocery com one sustained profitability is achieved.
Mike Grondahl: The first question for today will be coming from the line of Mike Grondahl. of Northland Capital. Your line is open. Hey, thanks, guys. Um, kind of a two part question. Um, one What do you think it's going to take kind of in terms of type of investment? Changes to current member programs and and maybe sales and marketing dollars to get to an inflection and kind of member. How should we?
Speaker Change: From a travel perspective, we have seen relatively consistent travel patterns from our members' total occupancy for the for the year of 72% was flat compared to 2023.
Michael: Q4 total revenue was $63 million. This represents a 11% decrease year over year for the for the year. We reported total revenue of $280 million similar to the Q4 trends full year revenue decreased by 15% year over year.
Speaker Change: With our focus on optimizing our lease portfolio, we have experienced an improved mix in our occupancy to pay delivered nights as opposed to pass pay the occupancy increase of 65% in 2024 compared to 56% in 2023.
Michael: Each of the quarterly and annual revenue declines are a result of deliberate strategic decisions to reduce our past member base, while past remains a strategic product with a defined role in our business model. Its previous structure was not well aligned with our long term objectives.
Speaker Change: Improved gross margins as previously mentioned.
Speaker Change: In total we ended the quarter with approximately $35 million in cash up $11 million from Q3. This includes 6 million of positive free cash flow of $5 5 million raising capital in.
Michael: Response to refine the product to better fit our overall business strategy and prioritize it more balanced mix of club in past numbers. This included a strategic shift away from emphasizing new pass sales in 2024.
Payam Zamani: So, Mike, thank you. Thank you for the question. This is Payam. You know, I think that this is more of a a U-shaped expectation I would set. Meaning that as our number of past members Deliberately have gone down and we have focused more on our clock members. We have, of course, dealt with that headwind, but now as we are growing our sales force, and just to give you an idea, we have. almost double the size of our self-force, or they will be actually doubled by the end of March. we are rebuilding our ability to be able to reach the wider audience that is interested in our offerings as we attempt to grow the club.
Speaker Change: In 2024, our cash balance decreased by $7 million compared to a $40 million decrease in 2023, excluding financing activities in both years, our true operating cash flow for the year improved $42 million. Despite a $50 million decrease in revenue, it's clear that the street's strategic decisions made over the past year have put us on a stronger footing with.
Michael: As of the end of Q4, we had approximately 500 active pass subscriptions and 10600 active called subscriptions.
Michael: From a travel perspective, we have seen relatively consistent travel patterns from our members' total occupancy for the for the year of 72% was flat compared to 2023.
Speaker Change: A better trajectory towards sustainable and profitable growth.
Michael: With our focus on optimizing our lease portfolio, we have experienced an improved mix in our occupancy to pay delivered nights as opposed to paas paid occupancy increase of 65% in 2024 compared to 56% in 2023.
Speaker Change: We have driven improved performance in 2024 by focusing on our strategy by operating with expense discipline across the business. We are seeing constraints brie creativity and drive continuous improvement in how we serve our members we intend to build upon our execution in 2024 and are excited about the momentum heading into 2025.
Michael: Improved gross margins as previously mentioned.
Michael: In total we ended the quarter with approximately $35 million in cash up $11 million from Q3. This includes 6 million of positive free cash flow and $5 $5 million raising capital in.
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Michael: In 2024, our cash balance decreased by $7 million compared to a $40 million decrease in 2023, excluding financing activities in both years, our true operating cash burn for the year improved $42 million. Despite a $50 million decrease in revenue, it's clear that the street's strategic decisions made over the past year have put us on a stronger footing with.
Payam Zamani: So I think that that inflection point that you're talking about is not that far away. It's probably a couple of quarters away, maybe two to three quarters away, but it's something that we expect will happen fairly soon. And, but the other thing that we should keep in mind is that Going after. Rowing the member base is one thing, but ensuring that we are signing up the right members. So the growth in our membership base will result in growth in revenue. It's something that we are very much focused on. So we don't end up in a situation that we've been in the last year, year and a half as we have with the past membership situation.
Speaker Change: With this we expect to take the next step forward in our path to profitability as evidenced by our full year adjusted EBITDA range.
Speaker Change: Zero to $5 million from our cash operating expense standpoint, we expect to invest between 80% to $90 million an improvement of approximately 15% compared to 2024.
Michael: A better trajectory towards sustainable and profitable growth.
Michael: We have driven improved performance in 2024 by focusing on our strategy by operating with expense discipline across the business. We are seeing constraints brie creativity and drive continuous improvement in how we serve our members we intend to build upon our execution in 2024 and are excited about the momentum heading into 2025.
Speaker Change: Meanwhile, total revenue is expected to be between 235.
Speaker Change: $255 million consistent with our fourth quarter annualized revenue similar to 2020 for the revenue decrease was primarily associated with the decreased pass subscription revenue.
Speaker Change: We're excited about our progress when we look forward to updating you further throughout the year and with that we're happy to take any questions.
Michael: Our goal in the year ahead is to make sure we're balancing investments for future profitable growth with increased efficiency across our organization with our key focus areas on elevating <unk> brand and the experience of our members have when traveling with us.
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Michael Arthur: And did I hear it right, 1,500 past members and 10,600 clubs?
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Michael: With this we expect to take the next step forward in our path to profitability as evidenced by our full year adjusted EBITDA range.
Michael Arthur: This is Michael. Yeah, you have that right.
Michael: Zero to $5 million from our cash operating expense standpoint, we expect to invest between 80% to $90 million an improvement of approximately 15% compared to 2024.
Mike Grondahl: And, you know, we'll still see a little bit of decline in both in 2025, as, as we alluded, but we're getting to the healthier mix that that we expect going forward in terms of past Got it. Great.
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Michael: Meanwhile, total revenue is expected to be between 235.
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Payam Zamani: You know, Pam, what are one or two areas that are going to be, you know, a key focus for you in 25? Sure. Those are the three items that I mentioned towards the end of my remarks. that, you know, as you know, when I arrived here, we cut our expenses, our overhead by over $40 million. That was necessary in order for us to course correct. And now, as we think about operational efficiencies, we're focused on building a highly efficient machine, an organization that is as efficient as any organization can be as we prepare for growth.
Michael: We're excited about our progress when we look forward to updating you further throughout the year and with that we're happy to take any questions.
Speaker Change: Changes to current member programs, and maybe sales and marketing dollars to to get to an inflection and kind of member count.
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Speaker Change: What do you think it's going to take kind of in terms of type of investment.
Speaker Change: And we have focused more on our club members.
Payam Zamani: We want to make sure that that foundation is highly efficient. So this is a difficult part of, in a sense, ensuring that we have built the right infrastructure. And this will take time. But we are highly focused on operational efficiency as an area of core competence. The second thing is our members come to us. because we represent a luxury service. And delivering on that luxury promise is something that we are very focused on. And whether it comes to the decor of our homes or the kinds of homes that we bring to our portfolio and the homes that we choose to remove from our portfolio, all of that will result in hopefully a brand that has more of a commitment to the luxury aspect of a service.
Speaker Change: We have of course dealt with that headwind, but now as we are.
Speaker Change: Changes to current member programs, and maybe sales and marketing dollars to to get to an inflection and kind of member count.
Speaker Change: Rolling our Salesforce in there just to give you an idea we have.
Speaker Change: Almost double the size of our sales force or they will be actually doubled by the end of March.
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Speaker Change: We are rebuilding our ability to be able to.
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Speaker Change: Deliberately have gone down.
Speaker Change: But it's something that we expect will happen fairly soon and the other thing that we should keep in mind is that.
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Speaker Change: We have of course dealt with that headwind, but now as we are growing our sales force in there just to give you an idea we have.
Payam Zamani: The third, and frankly, the one that I mean, I'm excited about all of these, but the third one is some is this one that I think can have a significant long term impact. is the idea of revamping our technology, making it more scalable and building the right infrastructure. So we as a company become digital marketing enabled. Today, as a company, we don't spend enough on marketing. I mean, frankly, we spend very little on marketing. We spend very little in digital marketing. And I come from a school of thought that, you know, when 20 some odd years ago, we learned how to spend marketing dollars in a way that it would measure every dollar spent.
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Speaker Change: Rolling the member base is one thing, but ensuring that we are signing up the right members.
Speaker Change: Almost double the size of our sales force. So they will be actually doubled by the end of March.
Speaker Change: So the growth in our membership base will result in growth in revenue.
Speaker Change: Something that we're very much focused on so we don't end up in a situation that we've been in the last.
Speaker Change: We are.
Speaker Change: Rebuilding our ability to be able to.
Speaker Change: A year year and a half as we have with the class membership situation.
Speaker Change: We've reached the wider audience that is interested in our offering as we attempt to grow the club so I.
Speaker Change: Got it and did I hear it right 1500 pass members and 10600 club.
Speaker Change: I think that that inflection point that you were talking about is not that far away is probably a couple of quarters away, maybe two to three quarters of the way.
Speaker Change: This is Michael Yeah, you have that right.
Speaker Change: And we will still see a little bit of decline in both in 2025 is as we alluded.
Speaker Change: Fairly soon and the other thing that we should keep in mind is that.
Speaker Change: But we're getting to the healthier mix that we expect going forward in terms of pass the club.
Speaker Change: Going after.
Payam Zamani: It opened up a massive opportunity for organizations to be able to take advantage of that and grow. And that is something I pioneered back in the 90s. And still the company I own that does that does that very well. So we're going to bring that core competency to this company. So we are able to spend in a highly profitable way marketing dollars, digital marketing dollars to be able to vastly. grow the audience and the reach of Inspirato as we get ready for growth. got it.
Speaker Change: Rolling the member base is one thing, but ensuring that we are signing up the right members.
Speaker Change: Got it great.
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Speaker Change: So the growth in our membership base will result in growth in revenue.
Speaker Change: Pam.
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Speaker Change: Something that we're very much focused on so we don't end up in a situation that we've been in the last.
Speaker Change: Key focus for you in 'twenty five.
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Speaker Change: A year year and half as we have that the class membership situation.
Speaker Change: Those are the three items that I mentioned.
Speaker Change: Towards the end of my remarks.
Speaker Change: Got it and did I hear it right 1500 pass members and 10600 club.
You know as you know when I arrived here.
Mike Grondahl: And then Any quarterly revenue or EBITDA to maybe call out as we work through 25? Are we going to see the seasonality we've seen in prior years?
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Michael: Yeah. This is Michael yes, you have that right.
Speaker Change: Our expenses and our overhead by over $40 million that was.
Michael: We will still see a little bit of decline in both in 2025 is as we alluded.
Speaker Change: Necessary in order for Us of course correct.
Speaker Change: And now as we think about the operational efficiencies will focus on building a highly efficient machine an organization that is as efficient as any organization can be as we prepare for growth. We wanted to make sure that that foundation is highly efficient. So this is a difficult part of.
Michael: But we're getting to the healthier mix that we expect going forward in terms of path to club.
Michael Arthur: Hey, Mike, this is Michael. Yeah, I would expect the same seasonality as in prior years. So Q1 is a really big quarter for us as we have key destinations like ski that's always heavy for us, but also spring break in March is a big time. So Q1, a really big quarter, both on revenue and EBITDA, and then Q3 in the summer period is also a really big quarter for us from a total travel perspective. Where there's revenue that's a little bit more episodic as around experiences, those can fall into different quarters, depending on when we put on those experiences.
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Michael: Those are the three items that I mentioned.
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Michael: Towards the end of my remarks.
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Michael: As you know when I arrived here.
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Michael: Our expenses and our overhead by over $40 million that was net.
Speaker Change: Because we represent and luxury service and delivering on that luxury promise is something that we are very focused on.
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Mike Grondahl: Sometimes there can be timing variances year over year. And we do expect some of that this year, primarily some experiences more falling into Q2 versus Q1. But aside from that, expect the same level of seasonality versus prior years. Got it. Okay.
Michael: And now as we think about the operational efficiencies will focus on building a highly efficient machine an organization that is as efficient as any organization can be as we prepare for growth. We wanted to make sure that that foundation is highly efficient. So this is a difficult part of.
Speaker Change: And whether it comes to the core of our homes or the kinds of homes.
Speaker Change: That.
Speaker Change: Brings our portfolio on the homes that we chose to remove from our portfolio all of that.
Speaker Change: Our result in hopefully a brand that has.
Mike Grondahl: Hey, thanks. Yeah, thank you. Thank you.
More of a commitment to the luxury athlete or a service.
Michael: In a sense, ensuring that we have built the right infrastructure and this will take time, but we are highly focused on operational efficiencies as an area of core competency.
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Speaker Change: The third and frankly, the one that im excited about all of these but the third one is some is one that I think.
Rommel Dionisio: And our next question will be coming from the line of Rommel. Dionisio of Angus, capital, your line is open. Thanks for taking my question. Good morning. You know, in the prior presentation, you guys talked about targeting, I think it was back in August, $40 million in annualized cost savings from a cost reduction program, $15 from leases, $15 from payroll, $10 from operations. Could you just maybe update us in terms of the progress you've made there? Are you guys kind of tracking in line with that plan and, you know, also some plans going forward, especially with regards to on the leases side?
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Michael: Cause we represent and luxury service.
Michael: The left brain and that luxury promise is something that we are very focused on.
Speaker Change: Building the right infrastructure, so we as a company become digital marketing enabled today.
Michael: And whether it comes to the core of our homes or the kinds of homes.
Speaker Change: Today as a company we don't spend it.
Speaker Change: Enough on marketing I mean, frankly, we spent very little on marketing.
Michael: That.
Michael: It brings our portfolio on the homes that we chose to remove from our portfolio all of that.
Speaker Change: We spent very little in digital marketing.
Speaker Change: And I come from a school.
Michael: Will result in hopefully a brand that has.
Speaker Change: I thought that when 20, some odd years ago will learn how to spend marketing dollars in a way that you could measure every dollar spent.
Unknown Executive: Thanks very much.
Michael: More of a commitment to the luxury aspect of the service.
Michael Arthur: Thank you for the question. Yeah, we, as we laid out back in August, our goal originally was to identify and execute on 25 million of cost savings. We identified 40 million, and we primarily have already actions on all 40 million. So, as in our guidance, that all is all reflected. There's not. Incremental work or cost savings that we have to get after to get to the 40Million. And you kind of named it, we had 1, the termination of a large underperforming lease contract we got out of, that was significant improvement or part of the 40Million again, on an annualized basis that alone contributed about 8Million dollars of EBITDA loss.
Michael: The third and frankly, the one that im excited about all of these but the third one is some it's one that I think.
Speaker Change: It opened up a massive opportunity for our organization to be able to take advantage of that and grow and that is something I pioneered that back in the nineties.
Michael: Can have a significant long term impact.
Speaker Change: Still the company I own that does that does that very well. So we're going to bring that core competency because this company. So we are able to spend in a highly profitable way marketing dollars digital marketing dollars to be able to vastly.
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Michael: Building the right infrastructure, so we as a company become digital marketing enabled today.
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Michael: Very little in digital marketing.
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Michael: And I come from a school of thought that when 20, some odd years ago will learn how to spend marketing dollars in a way that you could measure every dollar spent.
Speaker Change: Any quarterly revenue or EBIT.
Speaker Change: To maybe call out as we work through 'twenty five or are we going to see the seasonality we've seen in prior years.
Michael Arthur: And in addition to that, we continue to optimize the portfolio. We're not in a mode of continuing to reduce, but there's still opportunity to drive efficiencies and that portfolio that would drive somewhere between 4 to 5Million dollars of continued lease savings in that bucket. And then we continue to just be really diligent on driving operational efficiencies, both in personnel costs and in corporate overhead costs, things like software and professional services fees, things like that. But again, reiterate that 40Million has already been identified in action dorm and in our guidance, but we actually, as, as you've heard in our prepared remarks, we still think there's, there's quite a bit of opportunity for us to continue to get efficient across the organization.
Michael: It opened up a massive opportunity for our organization to be able to take advantage of that growth and that is something I pioneered that back in the nineties.
Speaker Change: Hey, Mike This is Michael Yeah, I would expect look the same seasonality as in prior years. So Q1 is a really big quarter for us as we have.
Still the company I own that does that does that very well. So we're going to bring that core competency because this company. So we are able to spend in a highly profitable way marketing dollars digital marketing dollars to be able to vastly.
Speaker Change: Key destinations like ski it's always heavy for us, but also spring break in March is a big time, So Q1 really big quarter, both on revenue and EBITDA and in Q3 in the summer period is also a really big quarter for us from a total travel perspective.
Michael: ROE the audience and the reach of its broad, though as we get ready for growth.
Michael: Got it and then.
Speaker Change: Where there is revenue that's a little bit more episodic is around experiences those can fall into different quarters, depending on when we.
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Michael: To maybe call out as we work through 'twenty five or are we going to see the seasonality we've seen in prior years.
Speaker Change: When we put on those experiences some time, there can be timing variances year over year, and we do expect some of.
Rommel Dionisio: Great, that's very helpful and congratulations on the progress of the quarter. Yeah, thank you. Thank you.
Michael: Hey, Mike This is Michael Yeah, I would expect look the same seasonality as in prior years. So Q1 is a really big quarter for us as we have.
Speaker Change: This year, primarily some experiences more falling into Q2 versus Q1.
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Speaker Change: But aside from that I expect the same level of seasonality versus prior years.
Payam Zamani: I would like to go ahead and turn the call back over to CEO Pam Zamani. Go ahead, please. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. And thank you to all those who joined this call today. I really appreciate your time.
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Michael: Key destinations like ski it's always heavy for us, but also spring break in March is a big time, So Q1, a really big quarter, both on revenue and EBITDA and in Q3 in the summer period is also a really big quarter for us from a total travel perspective.
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Payam Zamani: As you know, you've heard from us, we're really excited about the progress that has been made and we have a long road ahead of us and we are really excited to meet with you again in just about a month and a half or two months and share with you our results if you want. Take care. Thank you.
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Michael: Where there is revenue that's a little bit more episodic is around experiences those can fall in to different quarters, depending on when we.
Deanna: Thanks for taking my question good morning.
In the prior presentation, you guys talked about targeting I think it was back in August $40 million of annualized cost savings from our cost reduction program 15 months leases 15 from payroll tend from operations could you just maybe update us in terms of the progress you've made there are you guys kind of tracking in line with that.
Michael: When we put on those experienced sometimes there can be timing variances year over year, and we do expect some of that.
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Michael: This year, primarily some experiences more falling into Q2 versus Q1.
Michael: But aside from that I expect the same level of seasonality versus prior years.
Deanna: And also some clients going forward, especially with regard to on the laser side. Thanks very much.
Michael: Got it Okay, hey, thank you.
Michael: Yes. Thank you.
Michael: Thank you one moment for the next question.
Deanna: Thank you for the question Yeah, we are as we've laid out.
Deanna: Back in August our Golar, originally was to identify and execute on $25 million of cost savings, we identified $40 million and we primarily have already actions on all its all $40 million.
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Deanna: Thanks for taking my question good morning.
Deanna: So in our guidance that all is all reflected there's not incremental work or cost savings that we have to get after to get to the $40 million and you kind of a name that we had won the termination.
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Deanna: Large underperforming lease contract, we got out of that was significant improvement.
Deanna: Our part of the $40 million again on an annualized basis that alone contributed about $8 million of EBITDA loss and then in addition to that we're continuing to optimize the portfolio we're not in.
Deanna: Thank you for the question.
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Deanna: As we've laid out.
Deanna: Back in August our goal originally was to identify and execute on $25 million of cost savings, we identified $40 million and we primarily have already actions on all all $40 million. So.
Deanna: Mode of continuing to reduce but theres still opportunity to drive efficiencies in that portfolio that would drive you know somewhere between $4 million to $5 million of continued lease savings in that bucket and then we continue to just be really diligent on driving operational efficiencies both in.
Deanna: Our guidance that all is all reflected there's not incremental work or cost savings that we have to get after to get to the $40 million and you kind of a name that we had won the termination.
Deanna: Personnel costs and corporate overhead costs things like software and professional services fees things like that but again reiterate that $40 million has already been identified an action dorman and in our guidance, but we actually.
Deanna: Large underperforming lease contracts, we got out of that was significant improvement.
Deanna: As you've heard in our prepared remarks.
Deanna: Our part of the $40 million again on an annualized basis that alone contributed about $8 million of EBITDA loss and then in addition to that we're continuing to optimize the portfolio we're not.
Deanna: We still think there is theres quite a bit of opportunity for us to continue to get.
Deanna: Across the organization.
Speaker Change: Great that's very helpful and congratulations on the progress in the quarter.
Deanna: Mode of continuing to reduce but theres still opportunity to drive efficiencies in that portfolio that will drive somewhere between $4 million to $5 million of continued lease savings in that bucket and then we continue to just be really diligent on driving operational efficiencies both in.
Deanna: Yes. Thank you.
Deanna: Thank you and that does conclude today's Q&A session I would like to go ahead and turn the call back over to CEO.
Deanna: Pam.
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Deanna: Professional services fees things like that but again reiterate that $40 million has already been identified an action dormant and in our guidance, but we actually as as you've heard in our prepared remarks.
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Speaker Change: The progress has been made and we have a long road ahead of us and we.
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Speaker Change: Meet with you again in just about a month after two months and share with you our results for Q1 take care. Thank you.
Deanna: We still think there is theres quite a bit of opportunity for us to continue to get.
Deanna: Across the organization.
Deanna: Great that's very helpful and congratulations on the progress in the quarter. Thanks.
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Deanna: Yes. Thank you.
Deanna: Thank you and that does conclude today's Q&A session I would like to go ahead and turn the call back over to CEO.
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Deanna: Thank you.
Deanna: All those who joined this call today.
Deanna: Really appreciate your time.
Deanna: As you've heard from US we're going to excited about.
Deanna: The progress has been made and we have a long road ahead of us and we.
Deanna: We are really excited too.
Meet with you again in just about a month after two months and share with you our results for Q1 take care. Thank you.
Deanna: This does conclude today's program. Thank you for joining today's conference call you may all disconnect.
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