Q4 2024 EverCommerce Inc Earnings Call
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Sheree: Good day, and welcome to Evercommerce's fourth quarter, 2024 earnings call. My name is Shari, and I'll be your host for today's call.
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Speaker Change: Good afternoon and thank you for joining. Today's call will be led by Eric Remer, Evercommerce's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer and Ryan Siurek, Evercommerce's Chief Financial Officer.
Speaker Change: This call is being broadcast with a side presentation that reviews the key financial and operating results for the three months and year ended December 31st, 2024, as well as our 2025 guidance.
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Speaker Change: Please turn to page two of our earnings call presentation and why review our safe harbor statement. Statements made on this call and contained in the earnings materials available on our website that are not historical in nature may constitute forward-looking statements.
Speaker Change: Such statements are based on the current expectations and beliefs of management. Actual results may differ materially from these forward-looking statements due to risks and uncertainties that are described in more detail in our filings at the SEC.
Speaker Change: We undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise these forward-looking statements, except as required by law.
Speaker Change: We will also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures in our comments today. A reconciliation of non-GAAP to gap historical measures is provided in both our earnings press release and our earnings presentation.
Speaker Change: Before we discuss fourth-code results, I would like to highlight a press release that we issued earlier in the week. In this press release, we disclose that we are actively seeking strategic alternatives for our marketing technology solutions. [inaudible]
Speaker Change: Evercommerce does not intend to make any further public comment regarding the review of strategic alternatives until it has been completed or the company determines that a disclosure is acquired by law or otherwise deemed appropriate.
Speaker Change: I will now turn it over to our CEO , Eric Remer. Please continue.
Speaker Change: Ask my remarks, Ryan will take over and dive deeper into our financial performance.
Speaker Change: We ended 2024 in a stronghold. Our fourth quarter reported revenue exceeded the top end of our guidance range. In fact, throughout 2024, we consistently met or beat expectations.
Speaker Change: for the fourth quarter of gap revenue increased 3.3% year-over-year at a pro-war basis which adjust prior year for the sale of the fitness solutions, revenue increased 7% year-over-year.
Speaker Change: Adjusted to 50.4 million dollars, also be the top end of a guidance range. Representing the 28.8% margin.
Adjust to even margin expanded nearly 340 basis points, you're over here.
Speaker Change: Payment revenue, excluding the fitness solutions, grow 8.9% year-over-year, driven by 9% growth in
Speaker Change: Finally, with last quarter's announcement of Josh McCarter Jordan and CEO of Ever Pro, and more recently, our announcement that Ever Berlin, our prior Chief Operating Officer, has transitioned to the Ever Health CEO role. We have made significant progress in our transformation efforts that are key to achieving a growth acceleration goals.
Speaker Change: with the establishment of these leaders that celebrate finished solution in 2024 and our recent announcement regarding our attempt at self-marketing technology solutions. We are positioning our future growth as a pure play, SaaS, and embedded payments platform, empowering critical service providers in the SMD space.
Speaker Change: Evercommerce provides access solutions to the service of the economy. We offer tremendous value to our customers who are providing the system of action necessary to other businesses with tailored, unique workflows.
Speaker Change: As you know, we only upstate our customer cut once per year and I am now happy to report that we grew our customer a couple more than 7% of the past year. We provide end-end solutions to more than 740,000 customers across our three major verticals.
Speaker Change: Our largest base of customers in a key strength of Evercommerce.
Speaker Change: Each one of those customers represents the opportunity to utilize better payments.
Speaker Change: at more features, Android users, and upsell to more robust products as your business grows.
Speaker Change: We talked often about our transformation optimization programs financial benefits, whether it's cost savings or accelerated growth.
Speaker Change: Another key outcome of this program is enhancing our ability to provide more value toward large
Speaker Change: On a pro-former basis in 2024, we generated 690.7 million of revenue, representing a 5.7% year-over-year growth.
Subscription for the action revenue grew 8.4% your beer.
Speaker Change: For the full year, we generated 25.3% of just you with the margin, which is across with 230 basis points of margin expansion year-of-year.
Speaker Change: Family are annualized total payment volume for TPV, expanded to over $12.6 billion.
Speaker Change: at Threat Highlight in New York Rewards, we recently announced that we were exploring strategic alternatives to remarking technology solutions.
Speaker Change: These solutions are valuable products to our customers fueled by the fact that service-based small businesses need various digital channels to promote their businesses and acquire customers.
Speaker Change: What has become clear to us, as we've been on a transformation optimization journey, however, is that our primary focus, energy and investments need to be a providing best in class, verbal, fast-offer with the better payments. [inaudible]
Speaker Change: We believe that focusing on these areas will allow to maximize long-term growth, margin of the creation and ultimately sure hold the value.
Speaker Change: From a more practical standpoint, we believe that removing this campaign-based revenue stream and lower margin business will help highlight the higher growth, higher growth margin businesses from our core staff and payments businesses.
Speaker Change: Host a plant sale of the marketing technology business, our core verticals will be ever-profile for home services, ever-health for health services, and ever-well for wellness, with a two-former verticals representing approximately 95% of consolidated revenue.
Speaker Change: Ever pros an industry leading provider of integrated workflow-driven solutions for the SMB field service professionals, providing end-and-management from lead management, scheduling dispatch, estimating, invoicing, and value ed exclusions such as payments, and customer experience management.
Speaker Change: Ever pro-faces of fragment and largely unaddressed market, while there are competitors in their space, our growth opportunity ever pro largely stems from attracting customers who are not using integrated solutions and from increasing payments adoption.
Speaker Change: By 2025, priorities with Everproward focus on broader basic customers and improving the expansion across sell opportunities inherent in the business.
Most importantly, adoption of payments. [inaudible]
Speaker Change: We plan to augment our Go-to-Market approach, including the Eleanor efforts and partnerships and channel optimization.
Speaker Change: Additionally, we are streetlining product and development and engineering by unifying the Romance, rationalizing platforms and leveraging the AI to continue to provide markedly leading products to our customers.
Speaker Change: While we are public announce Joshua Rivals to lead Evercrow, we have also augmented leadership team with hiring approved successful leaders across sales, marketing, product and technology.
Speaker Change: We have broken down the fragmented solution-centric organization structure within Everprobe and built a strong functional organization that we believe will approve efficiency, enable faster decisions, and accelerate growth.
Speaker Change: Ever Help is a leading provider of ending capabilities for small physician practice.
Speaker Change: from scheduling, to practice management, to patient engagement, to revenue cycle management that are healthcare customers need. The cast tone appointment we've had ever helped was our announcement in January , that Evermer will be taking the ring as the DCO. [inaudible]
Speaker Change: We are investing in our product-provided hand features, the adjure to workflows, and deeper integrations to create more value for our customers that we believe will provide better cost for acquisition and higher retention.
Speaker Change: Our platform enables providers to select a single partner of choice to support through tire operation.
Speaker Change: While we leave the staff to empower customers, Exile repayments contains to be a high-private Evercommerce.
Speaker Change: Not only have we made good progress throughout 2024, but the real-time investments you're making today are that the virtuality creates enablement and usage.
Speaker Change: As the next-gen-last-quarter, we are specifically investing in our product capabilities and go-to-market motions to prioritize payment attachment at the point of initial staff sale, as opposed to a separate add-on sales motion.
Speaker Change: At the end of the fourth quarter, across with 219,000 customers were enables more than one solution, reflecting a 22% year-over-year growth.
Speaker Change: As we discuss, we introduce this metric, enabling customers some more than one solution, is the first step in the funnel that leads to increased revenue, retention, and ultimate profitability of these customers.
Speaker Change: Once customers are enabled, the next action item process of the silicate usage. In the case of payments, this is getting our customers to actively process on our platform.
Speaker Change: We measure this step in the funnel as utilization. At the end of the fourth quarter, approximately 91,000 customers were actively utilizing more than one solution reflecting more than a 14% European growth. The acceleration of the European growth reported in the prior quarter. Thank you very much.
Speaker Change: Customers that purchase and utilize more than one solution are gnashed with several most profitable and sticky customers.
Speaker Change: As we've illustrated the past earnings calls, the effect of more customers taking payments and other add-on features and services is higher enough revenue retention. Looking back over the prellent 12 months, our annualized net revenue retention or NRR for the course software payment solution was 96%. Consistent with a prior quarter.
Speaker Change: Year-over-year, our payments for everyone in pro-former base has screwed 9%, accounting for approximately 17% of overall revenue.
Speaker Change: This is an acceleration at growth versus last quarter, and it speaks to the continued progress for making a payment adoption.
Speaker Change: We report our payments for revenue on net basis, and as a result, payments for revenue contributes across to 95% gross margin as a meaningful contributor to overall justice even with the margin.
Speaker Change: 4th-porter estimated annual total payments volume, or TPP, with approximately $12.6 billion dollars, representing a 9% year for your growth.
Speaker Change: As I mentioned earlier, we're making strategic high ROI investments into our payment spot for retain, which we believe will result in increased payment adoption, TPP growth, and revenue acceleration.
Speaker Change: Now, I will pass over to Ryan, who will review our financial results in more detail, as we will arrive first quarter in full year 2025 guidance.
Ryan Siurek: Thanks, Eric. The total reported revenue in the fourth quarter was 175 million, up 3.3% from the prior year period.
Speaker Change: with in total reported revenue, subscription and transaction revenue was 139 million, up 4.2% from the prior year period, and marketing technology solutions revenue was 29.6 million, down 1.6% from the prior year period.
Speaker Change: The amounts presented on this slide for marketing technology revenue include amounts historically presented as marketing technology solutions as well as related marketing technology components include within subscription and transaction revenue.
Speaker Change: We manage the business for sustainable organic growth and selectively utilize strategic act traditions for the best of shares to augment the trajectory of this growth.
Speaker Change: As a result, we believe it is important for investors to also evaluate our growth on a pro-forma basis.
which is how we measure and manage the business internally.
Speaker Change: We calculate our pro-former revenue growth as though all acquisitions and investitures that were completed as at the end of the latest period were closed as of the first day of the prior period.
Speaker Change: We believe the pro form of growth rate provides the best insight into the underlying growth dynamics of our business.
For Q4 2024, year-over-year pro-former Red New Browse was 7%
Speaker Change: The primary difference between the actual performer revenue growth is attributable to the removal of prior year revenue associated with the sale of our fitness solutions that closed in 2024.
Speaker Change: The solid performance in subscription and transaction revenue was largely due to continued execution of our growth strategy to provide customers our core system of action software solutions and driving expansion by promoting cross-style and upsell opportunities, leading with
Speaker Change: As Eric noted, we also exceeded the top end or adjusted even a guidance range.
Speaker Change: 4th quarter of Justice Ebina was 50.4 million, representing a 28.8% margin, versus 25.4% in Q4 2023, which is 17% growth year over year.
Speaker Change: Q4 Martin Expansion was aided by seasonality in our business sequentially as well as the timing of some transformation investments. [inaudible]
Speaker Change: Adjusted gross profit in the quarter was $124 million, representing an adjusted gross margin of 70.9% versus 67.3% in Q4 2023.
Speaker Change: Adjusting gross profit and proof largely as a result of positive mix shift in the business.
Speaker Change: As a percentage of revenue, payments are rebate revenue, both of which have 95% plus gross margin profiles, grew compared to the decline in marketing technology which carries a lower gross margin profile.
Speaker Change: Now, turning to adjusted operating expenses, which are reconciled in the appendix to this presentation.
Speaker Change: Overall, adjusted operating expenses modestly increased as a percentage of revenue from 41.9% to 42.1% for the quarter on a year-over-year basis.
while improving on an LTM basis from 42.8% to 42%
Speaker Change: representing our approach to balance the amount and timing of investments made in our solutions.
Speaker Change: We maintain our focus on improvement in customer satisfaction and acquisition while also highly focused on cost discipline in functional support areas.
Speaker Change: Now turning to some key liquidity measures, we continue to generate significant free cash flow as we invest to grow our business.
Speaker Change: Cash flow from operations for the quarter was $48.4 million as compared to $36 million in Q4 2023.
Speaker Change: Levert free cash flow was 43.8 million in a quarter, and for the trailing 12-month period, we generated more than 94 million in Levert free cash flow.
Speaker Change: Agency. Adjusted, unleavened free cash flow was 39.1 million in the quarter and 134.5 million for the last 12 months, representing 31.5% and 20.5% year-over-year growth respectively.
Speaker Change: Wayne is a quarter with 136 million cash and cash equivalents, and we maintain 190 million of
Speaker Change: We have 532 million of debt outstanding as of the end of the quarter which Mature is in July , 2028.
Speaker Change: Our total net leverage has calculated for our credit facility at the end of the quarter was approximately 2.2 times consistent with our financial policy.
Speaker Change: We have 425 million of notional swaps at a weighted average rate of 3.91% for the floating rate component of our interest cost.
Speaker Change: In December , we successfully reprised the six-ray component of our terminal as part of the Continued Transformation and Optimization Efforts.
Speaker Change: The term loan was reprised at par and reduced the fixed price component of the interest rate by 50 basis points.
Speaker Change: while also eliminating the credit's red adjustment to now bearing interest rate of so far plus 2.5%, resulting in annualized interest cost savings of approximately 3.3 million.
Speaker Change: We continue to view stone, free cash flow generation as a key priority for the company.
Speaker Change: With it, we are able to invest in our growing business while also allowing us to efficiently allocate capital across the spectrum of opportunities, including the outstanding buyback authorization and M&A prospects.
Speaker Change: In the fourth quarter, we were purchased approximately 623,000 shares for $7 million at an average price of $10.88 per share.
Speaker Change: based on the board's authorization as of December 31, 2024. We had approximately $32.7 million remaining in our repurchase authorization that runs through year-end 2025.
Speaker Change: I would now like to finish by discussing our outlook for the first quarter and full year of 2025. As a reminder, our guidance for revenue and adjusted EBITDA for 2025 is based on our continued operations, which will exclude marketing technology solutions.
Speaker Change: Please note that marking technology solutions will be reported as discontinued operations beginning in Q-1 2025.
Speaker Change: To assist in the comparison of 2025 guidance to prior year results, we have provided the associated amounts of revenue and adjusted EBITDA for marketing technology solutions, included in our consolidated results for 2024 as part of this presentation.
Speaker Change: For the first quarter of 2025, we expect total revenue of 138 to 141 million, and adjusted the EBITDA of 39 to 41 million.
Speaker Change: For the full year 2025, we expect total revenue of 581 to 601 million and adjust the EBITEM of 167.5 to 175.5 million.
Operator, we are now ready to take the first question.
Speaker Change: Thank you. As a reminder to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, press star 11 again. One moment while we compile the Q&A roster.
Speaker Change: And our first question will come from the line of Bhavin Shah with Deutsche Bank, your line is open.
Speaker Change: Thanks for taking my questions. I will grab some of the shongs here to finish the year.
Bavin Shaw: I guess first just on the macro, can you just give us an update on kind of what you're seeing with the health of your customers and any impact you're seeing from some terrorist or a hesitancy as you kind of approach a new administration?
Speaker Change: and I want to take that. Yeah, absolutely. So thanks for the question. You know,
Speaker Change: Right now, seeing really nothing currently discernible in either acquisition, utilization, or turn trends that would point to a macro impact at this point in time. And as you know, given the highly digital nature of our new customer acquisition funnel, we do have real near time indicators that we continue to monitor. So we look at things like...
Speaker Change: Cosper League, Lee Declose Conversion Rates, Cosper Acquisition, Sales Cycle Times, New Sales ASPs.
Speaker Change: To really assess that macro impact, along with additional utilization and retention indicators and right now, again nothing discernible but obviously something that we're going to keep our finger on. And on the all add to that, if you look at our two main verticals which represent 95% of our business.
Speaker Change: You know, our home field service business is really primarily great fix. We don't do new start to things in that nature and that really is up.
Speaker Change: You know, pretty consistent regardless of macro and then the second largest is our health services ever health and again, very consistent regardless of tariffs or macroeconomics that we see.
Speaker Change: That's helpful there and just a quick follow-up. I know you talked about augmenting your existing go-to-market with partnerships and channel optimization. Can you just expand them on what you exactly need by that and how big is partnerships or channel today in terms of triming traffic?
out.
Speaker Change: Yeah, I'll certainly talk about it from my perspective and perhaps I'm Joshua, we'll follow on from the vertical perspectives and we've always talked about partnerships as kind of one leg of the stool of our new customer acquisition as we've always talked about digital is kind of by far the largest but no partnerships and then you know in-person trade shows and conferences are really the other two legs of that three-legged stool of our customer acquisition you know with digital being you know as we've always talked about between 80 to 80
Speaker Change: and our patient engagement capabilities as well as a marketplace that we've got within Ever Health. And so there's actually different channels within that 30th-party distribution and something we continue to invest into Matt's point to diversify our channel acquisition and also just reduce our cost acquisition.
Fred, thanks for taking my questions.
Thank you. One moment for our next question.
Speaker Change: And that will come from the line of Alex Sklar with Raymond James. Your line is open.
Speaker Change: And then with that, what have been kind of the biggest factors for the acceleration? Is that on the growth side? Is it more digital conversion? Better on the demand down? Just kind of curious, what's played into that acceleration? What are you talking about?
You know, I wouldn't say that...
Speaker Change: Beyond that, there's anything from a trend standpoint. I think our execution from a new customer acquisition standpoint was consistent across the year. And then from obviously a retention standpoint, that's the other side of the point of the customer count retention was where we expected it to be, an area that we continue to invest in, how we engage with our customers are continuing to invest in our products to make them only more valuable and strengthen their value for our end customers. Again, we continue to iterate across our [inaudible]
Speaker Change: Portfolio on that. I think across the course of 2024, that really manifested in that 7% growth of total customers of execution on both the NCA and the retention side. No, I'll add to the thanks, Matt.
Speaker Change: We talked about that 7% growth, but I think the real important number to really focus on is the 740,000 customers.
on with a massive scale of...
Speaker Change: of SMB customers that gives us the opportunity which we're getting better and better at providing more value to, but providing more services to them. So that continues to be a large focus of ours. Obviously we're happy to continue that to grow, but the overall scale of that, I think it's lost some times of how many customers we actually have within the Evercommerce system.
Speaker Change: Great answers, and Eric, I actually want to dovetail enough for the second question here, so...
Speaker Change: The scale you've built out, you're obviously the investing of the marketing solutions, but you've talked about how important some of these horizontal solutions are to your customer base in general.
Speaker Change: So, strategy posts the marketing sale. Can you talk about the opportunity to enable more? We have horizontal optionality, there are more marketplace partners, you talk a lot about partnerships today.
Speaker Change: Yeah, no, it's a great question. And look, all of our customers, which is why we went to the marketing space the first, in the first place, the need sir, the need, the need, the need.
Speaker Change: You know, some of the services we do provide. What we've seen in our efforts providing more value, we've seen the greatest success by a large amount in better finance, specifically payments. [inaudible]
Speaker Change: and so as we look to provide more value, we provide reputation management, we provide other integrated services beyond payments, but we definitely are seeing that as the continued focus and really the core need of our customers at this time.
Speaker Change: for things outside of the ecosystem that we need to partner to provide our value. Yeah, we'll bring in partnerships and we have those as you speak and Matt could talk about some of those as well. But I think as we look at the
Speaker Change: and really stay laser focused and make sure that we're now in those two objectives. I know that well. Yeah, I think so though internally super focused on payments. Thanks.
Speaker Change: on the customer experience solutions, on Edge, which we've talked about over the recent quarters. And again, we certainly, you heard there talk about the value of that marketing technology solutions can provide to end customers. That's certainly something that's through third-party partnerships. We can continue to provide to those end customers.
Great, thank you both for wrapping the corner. Thank you.
And one moment for our next question.
Speaker Change: That will come from the line of Matthew Hedberg with RBC Capital Market. Your line is open.
Speaker Change: Hey guys, it's Mike Richards on from Matt, thanks for taking a question.
Speaker Change: You know, obviously, there's a lot of moving parts, you know, the divasture, but, you know, Ryan, this is your first guide, you're kind of owning it as a CFO . How should we think about the guidance philosophy relative to guides of the past and then, you know, what are the levers to that gross acceleration in the back hat that we should be looking for? That's what we're talking about.
Speaker Change: Yeah, I think, I mean, we feel good about the guide. I think you can see from a guidance perspective for 2024. We came in, you know.
Speaker Change: almost on top of where guidance was from an actual perspective and exceeded her beat.
on a quarterly basis throughout the year.
Speaker Change: We're trying to give a 50-50 in terms of our view where the business will be. You're right, there's a lot of moving parts. We had the Fitness Investiture in 2024. Obviously we announced the...
Speaker Change: you know, that we're going through a process right now for marketing technology.
Speaker Change: really to focus in the areas that both Eric and Matt had talked about. But from a guy's perspective,
in the areas that will be representing our continuing operations.
Speaker Change: We feel strongly about our ability to kind of see where that is right now. Should anything change? We'll update that, but right now we spend a good deal of time looking at the historicals and also looking at the trends that we see in the marketplace that Matt talked about at the front. Let's see what happens.
Speaker Change: and yeah, for first quarter and for the full year, we feel good right now.
Speaker Change: And the word we used all of last year is just being prudent. I think we want to put numbers out there that we feel very confident that we will be in exceeding as we did every quarter last year and for the full year. We expect it at the same this year.
Speaker Change: Got it. And then, you know, it was ultimately the acceleration payments. You know, maybe you guys could talk more on the investments that you're making into that platform. And what are some of the biggest frictions you tend to see in adoption, and maybe with those investments, the addressing those frictions that you're selling customers?
Eric Remer, Bradley Korch, Marc Thompson
Speaker Change: They're starting to utilize. How do we expedite and drive additional utilization there? So, again, that's another area of investments. And when you think about expanding wallet share, really the expansion of our product landscape, we've talked about that over several quarters from a payments perspective, improving payment workflows within our core systems of action, the addition of functionality like cap-to-pay across the payments ecosystem. So, all three of those core areas of the funnel, we are actively making investments to.
Speaker Change: to drive further penetration beyond where we are today. Thank you very much.
Great, thanks.
Thank you, one moment for our next question.
Speaker Change: and that will come from the line of Kirk Matern with Evercore ISI, your line is open.
Speaker Change: and that will come from the line of Aaron Kimson with Citizen.
Speaker Change: Thanks, guys. Congrats to Evan on the new world running Ever Health. How should we think about the payment opportunity and the penetration or maturity of that motion within Ever Health relative to Ever
Speaker Change: Yeah, thanks Aaron, good to see you a couple weeks back. You know, I think ultimately the opportunity is a little bit smaller and when you look at the Ever-Hell's business versus Ever Pro just...
Speaker Change: Higher deductible plans, it's absolutely something that our customers need deeply embedded within both their-
Speaker Change: their patient engagement and their core practice management solution. So I would say we're very much in the early stages, especially in our core platforms like Dr. Bruno, where we do have payments integrated, we're still to math point, working on building out all of the workflows and then driving all of the kind of funnel steps within our health services ecosystem, get customers enabled, activated.
Speaker Change: and ultimately expand share of wallet as we invest in the product. So we see a lot of continued opportunity within, within ever out from the patient payments perspectives.
Speaker Change: That's helpful. And then the 740,000 customers is great to see for the cross sell opportunity. Given that we only get customer count once a year I wanted to ask on the public clock, there's any color you can provide about how we should think about customer count on the next March that basis as of 12.31.24 to see if we can get an idea of how to model that as things happens throughout 25. Thanks.
Yeah.
Speaker Change: Yeah, Aaron, this is Brad. It's about, we'll give the exact number when we get the next quarter, but it's about, it's about 15,000 customers.
Got it.
Thank you. One moment for our next question.
Speaker Change: and we'll try Kirk Meturn's line with Evercore ISI. Your line is open.
Hi, this is John.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
and Bradley Korch. Thank you. Thank you.
Speaker Change: And hi, Kirk, we're having trouble hearing you on our end.
Eric Remer, Bradley Korch, Eric Remer, Bradley Korch, Marc Thompson
Thank you.
Speaker Change: That is all the time we have for our question and answer session today. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Eric Remer for closing remarks.
Bye.
Speaker Change: Well, thank you for that. Thanks again for joining us today and for your continued sport of Evercommerce. We are very excited about the transformation progress we have made and where it can take us both in 25 and beyond and with a tour of connecting with you individually over the next coming days and weeks. Thank you very much.
Speaker Change: This concludes today's program. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect.