Q1 2025 Allegion PLC Earnings Call
Good morning and welcome to the Allegion First Quarter 2025 earnings call. All participants will be in listen only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal conference specialists by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's remarks there will be an opportunity to ask questions.
To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Josh Pokrzywinski, vice president of investor relations. Please go ahead. Thank you Jason.
Speaker Change: Our earnings release, which was issued earlier this morning, and the presentation, which we will refer to in today's call, are available on our website at investor.alegion.com. This call will be recorded and archived on our website. Please go to slide 2.
Speaker Change: Statements made in today's call that are not historical facts are considered forwardal king statements that are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of federal security
Speaker Change: Please see our most recent SEC violins for a description of some of the factors that may cause actual results to different materially from our projections.
The company assumes no obligation to update these forward-looking statements
Speaker Change: Today's presentation and commentary include non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to the reconciliation and the financial tables of our press release for further details.
Speaker Change: Please go to slide three and I'll turn the call over to John [inaudible]
John: Thanks, Josh. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us. Q1 was a strong start to our year, and I am proud of the execution of the Allegion team and grateful for the long-standing partnership with the finest distribution channel partners in the industry.
John: This was another demonstration of the resilience of our business model as we expanded our industry leading margins and continued to invest in our business while returning capital to shareholders.
John: and pleased with the top line growth in Q1 especially in the Americas driven by the non-residential business.
John: Over the past year, the America's team produced mid-single-digit growth and solid margin expansion which we believe speaks to the resiliency of the model, our broad-end market exposure, and the depth of our relationships with channel partners and end users.
John: We continue to take advantage of our business's strong-cast generation, returning cash to shareholders and growing through accretive acquisitions.
John: Our consistent cashflow and pipeline of opportunities positions us well for additional capital deployment that creates long-term value for shareholders and drives performance through the cycle.
John: We're exiting Q1 with solid momentum and we're executing our long-term growth strategy while remaining agile.
John: We are affirming our 2025 full-year outlook for adjusted earnings per share of $7.65 to $7.85 and I'll be back later to provide more color on our markets and outlook. Please go to slide 4.
John: Let's take a look at cap allocation for the first quarter, starting with investments for organic growth.
John: The Slag Sense Pro, smart deadbolt is set to transform home access, delivering a hands-free unlocking experience that combines ultimate convenience with trusted security for homeowners.
John: Paired with a personal phone, it's ultra-wide band technology can understand intent to enter and unlock a door for an authorized user precisely as they approach it.
John: The Schlage Sense Pro will also allow homeowners to voice control the lack and set up automated routines via smart home platforms and devices.
John: We are set to release the slaying arrives Smart Wi-Fi deadbolt, our first push button keypad deadbolt equipped with built-in Wi-Fi.
John: It provides a simple and secure connected solution that is an easy upgrade for first-time smart lock users and those looking to add smart security to more doors throughout their home at a more affordable price point.
John: Both of these innovative new offerings complement our leading slag and code family of smart locks and are also backed by the slag name which just earned the title of America's most trusted lock brand for the sixth year in a row. Since Pro and Arriver expected to hit US markets later this year.
John: Turning to M&A, Allegion has closed three bolt-on acquisitions since the start of 2025. In the Americas, we acquired the next-door company in February , growing our specialty door solutions portfolio to include new custom configurations for industrial, commercial, and institutional buildings.
John: In all these international, we acquired Lamar, expanding our security and accessibility solutions in Australia.
John: Lamar offers door entry systems, handles, and digital locks for residential and multi-family markets, and its channels and go-to-market approach complement our own, offering new opportunities to scale.
John: On April 1st, we acquired Tremko, which bolsters our non-residential America's portfolio with premium and patented door hardware solutions that are highly specifiable, ranging from architectural poles to mechanical locks, latches, and strikes.
John: We see continued opportunities to grow in organically this year as our pipeline remains active with companies that line to our core and can leverage our channel strengths.
John: As you heard from us on the call in February , Elysian continues to be a dividend paying stock. We announced our 11th consecutive increase to our dividend at the beginning of the year. In Q1, this dividend amounted to approximately $44 million. Lastly, we made share repurchases in the quarter of approximately $40 million.
John: We remain committed to balance consistent cap allocation with a clear priority of investing for growth. I look forward to updating you as we progress through 2025.
Mike will now walk you through first quarter financial results.
Mike: Thanks, John , and good morning everyone. Thank you for joining today's call. Please go to slide number five
Mike: As John shared, our Q1 results reflect strong execution from the Allegion team, delivering another quarter of margin expansion with mid-signal digit top-line growth.
Mike: Organic Revenue increased 4% in the quarter as a result of favorable price and volume led by our non-residential business in the Americas.
Mike: Q1-adjusted operating margin increased by 150 basis points as volume, leverage, favorable mix, and acquisitions were accretive to margins.
Mike: Price and productivity, net of inflation and investments and inclusive of transactional effects was a slight margin tell when in the quarter.
Mike: Adjusted earnings per share of $1.86, increased 31 cents or 20% versus the prior year.
Mike: Operational Performance, Favorable Tax, and Accredive Capital Deployment, more than all set a slight headwind from interest to another.
Mike: Our Q1 tax rate benefited from discrete items that historically occur in the back half of the year. We still anticipate the full year tax rate to be in the range of 17 to 18 percent, with the first half rate being similar to the second half rate.
Mike: Finally, year-to-date available cash flow was 83.4 million, which was up nearly 250 percent versus last year. We continue to effectively manage working capital and generate strong cash flow. I will provide more details on our balance sheet and cash flow a little later in the presentation.
Please go to slide number six.
Mike: This slide provides an overview of our quarterly revenue. I will review our enterprise results here before turning to our respective regions.
Mike: Acquisition strove 2.2 points of growth in the quarter, primarily related to businesses as we acquired in 2024.
Mike: Currency was a head-winning Q1 of 8 tenths of a point, bringing the total reported growth to 5.4%. Please go to slide number 7.
Mike: Our America segment delivered strong operating results in Q1. Revenue of 757.8 million was up 6.8% on a reported basis, and up 4.9% on an organic basis.
Mike: Organic growth included both favorable price and volume in the quarter. Reported revenue includes 2.3 points of growth from acquisitions and a slight currency
Cracing in our America's business was 1.1% in the quarter.
Our residential business declined mid-single digits in the quarter.
Mike: As we previously mentioned on our year end, 2024 earnings call, we did expect Q1 to be impacted by some pull ahead of purchases by customers into Q4 last year.
Mike: Electronics revenue was up low double digits and continues to be a long-term growth driver for Allegion.
Mike: America's Adjusted Operating Income of 220.9 million increased 12% versus the prior year. Adjusted Operating Margin was up 130 basis points.
As favorable, volume leverage and mix were accretive to margins
Mike: Price and Productivity, Native Inflation and Investments, and Inclusive of Transactional FX, Renutriental Margin Rates.
Mike: The tailwind from transactional effects is primarily related to our Mexican operations where a portion of our local costs were favorably impacted by the year-over-year decline in the peso compared to the U.S. dollar.
Please go to slide number eight.
Mike: Our international segment delivered revenues of 184.1 million, which was down three tenths of a percent on a reported basis, and up nine tenths of a percent organically.
Mike: Acquisitions work tailwind in this quarter, positively impacting reported revenues by 1.8 percent.
Mike: Currency was a headwind in the quarter, negatively impacted reporter revenues by 3%.
Mike: International Adjusted Operating Income of 18.8 million decreased 2.6% versus the prior year period. Adjusted Operating margins for the quarter decreased 20 basis points as we had a slight headwind from Price and Productivity, Net of Inflation and Investments.
Mike: Please go to slide number nine, and I will provide an overview of our cash flow and balance sheet.
Mike: This increase is driven by higher earnings, lower capital expenditures, and improvements in working capital.
I'm pleased with the strong start to the year.
Mike: Next, working capital as a percentile revenue improved, primarily due to increased inventory turns as we continue to focus on working capital efficiency to convert earnings to cash.
Mike: Finally, our balance sheet remains strong, and our net debt to adjust the debita is at a healthy ratio of 1.6 times.
Mike: Our business continues to generate strong cash flow and our balance sheet supports continued capital deployment. I will now hand the call back over to John . Thanks Mike, please go to slide
John: We are reiterating the 2025 outlook we introduced last quarter as we still see the same fundamental outlook led by our non-residential business in the America's region.
John: Non-residential markets, particularly the institutional verticals remain resilient. The late cycle nature of our business along with our backlog and specification activity continue to support our outlook.
John: As we said in the past, our America's sourcing practices are largely in region, while our America's residential business primarily produces and sources in Mexico, the vast majority of these products are US-NTA compliant.
John: America's sourcing from outside North America is relatively small, with China at less than 5% of COGs, and a collection of smaller exposures from all other countries cumulatively at 5% to 10% of enterprise COGs.
John: Our company estimates tariff costs of approximately $80 million in 2025, and we expect to offset tariffs at the operating profit and EPS level on a full-year basis primarily through pricing actions.
John: Accordingly, our 2025 Full-Year EPS Outlook includes the impact from tariffs enacted as of the 22nd of April of this year.
John: Given recent volatility in tariffs and foreign exchange rates were not updating our revenue outlook for those assumptions, however we see potential upside to our revenue outlook if current
Please go to slide 11.
John: In summary, Allegion is off to a strong start in 2025. I'm proud of our team's execution as we remain agile in a very dynamic environment.
John: Notably, we were honored in the quarter with the Gallup Exceptional Workplace Award for the second consecutive year, our leaders and our team of highly engaged experts drive our culture forward, creating a solid foundation to deliver exceptional results for our customers and our shareholders.
Our people are a key differentiator for this company [inaudible]
John: As we move into Q2, we see positive internal indicators in the America's non-residential business and we will remain agile should conditions change.
John: One final note, Allegion has an upcoming investor and analyst day in New York to share more on a growth strategy. If you're interested in attending our May 6th event, please contact Josh or Jill, be to register as soon as possible. With that, we'll take your questions.
John: We'll now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star than one when you touch down phone.
John: If you're using this speaker phone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys.
John: In the interest of time, please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. To withdraw your question, please press star then to. At this time, we'll pause momentarily to assemble a roster.
John: And our first question comes from Joe Ritchie from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
So I guess I'll start with the tariff question.
Joe Ritchie: So thank you for giving all the details great that it included in your guidance for the year. I was just wondering as you kind of think about the progression of those Tara and the surcharges that you mentioned.
Joe Ritchie: Is there any kind of mismatch we should be thinking about where either you're putting through pricing ahead of some of the tariff impact or vice versa, just anything around those dynamics would be very helpful.
Joe Ritchie: Yeah, thanks for the question, Joe. As you know, the tariffs went into effect the largest ones early April , and they were effective immediately.
Joe Ritchie: We took actions in the month of April , those are announced and in the marketplace we announced them earlier this week and they're effective here in April at the end of April .
Joe Ritchie: You can consider, if you think about a lag, you can see a month's, month-ish of a lag between the tariff impacts which were immediate and are pricing actions.
Joe Ritchie: We still expect for the full year and this is the important thing for a full year. We'll cover those costs of the tariffs.
Joe Ritchie: But as you think about the second quarter, there could be a little headwind, you know, we talked about that monthish of that lag. So as you think about this for the year, think of it as neutral, but think the second quarter could have that month impact.
Speaker Change: Okay, great. That's helpful, Mike. And I guess just that the fall on to just just a tear of discussion. If if in fact something changes and I think, you know.
Joe Ritchie: Things are changing by the day. How do we then think about the pricing actions that you're taking in a day just immediately come up? Like, how are you guys thinking about, you know, that dynamic as well?
Joe Ritchie: Yeah, Joe, this is John . I think that's on everyone's mind and given the volatility just like Mike.
Joe Ritchie: We mentioned we take our time to analyze each one of these enacted tariffs. It's a lot of detail, a lot of information to sift through.
and so, you know, [inaudible]
Joe Ritchie: We'll remain agile and we stay committed to affirming the full-year guide that we just shared with you. That's the best way to think about it.
Joe Ritchie: It's anybody's guess on which way things go from here, but we'll remain agile as we have so far and remain committed to covering any cost at the OI and the EPS level.
Joe Ritchie: That's great, John . If you just sneak one more in, just on just non-rez, great to see the growth of this quarter, you did call out that there was...
Joe Ritchie: I just am wondering, could you guys determine whether there was any pull ahead in one queue as well? Just from the fact that these tariffs were going into place and so maybe there were some orders that were placed. I'm just trying to understand. And like,
Joe Ritchie: How you felt about the growth that you saw this quarter and then in the outlook going forward? Yeah, Jill, let me wind the clock back. The Q4 comment was specific to residential, not non-res.
Joe Ritchie: and the dynamics there with the customer concentration on the residential side, and we watched their ordering behavior very closely. It was our own speculation that there was probably a mid-single digit million pull-ahead in Q4 on the residential side.
Joe Ritchie: Non-Raz, you know, as a book and ship business with pretty short lead times, we've been...
watching like hawks to see evidence of pull ahead.
Joe Ritchie: So do some people get some orders in before the price increase? Yeah, of course that happens every single year but we're watching very carefully on the non-reside and we just don't see a lot of evidence for any large pull ahead at this point.
So, great. Thanks, guys.
Speaker Change: The next question comes from Tim Weith from Beard. Please go ahead.
Tim Weiss: Yeah, everybody good, good morning. Thanks for the time and the details. Maybe just kind of the first question just on the institutional side. Have you seen any sort of changes in how?
Tim Weiss: You know, certain vertical to the institutional, you know, call it healthcare, government, those types of areas have kind of changed cat X priorities or you know kind of kind of thought about you know kind of funding just given you know some of the you know commentary coming out of Washington and those areas. [inaudible]
Tim Weiss: I think it's important. It's a good question, and I think it's important to remember...
Doors, frames, locks, door hardware, this is late cycle business.
Once a project starts, it tends to finish.
Tim Weiss: and, you know, so I'd say that those verticals, health care and education have still been growing, they've been resilient. We still see that, and again, I think the late cycle nature of our business continues to support our outlook.
Tim Weiss: If you look back to 2024, particularly for the education vertical, new issuances of municipal bonds was at a record high, very strong growth.
Tim Weiss: Those bonds, you know, now take a couple of years, honestly, to work their way through shovel-ready projects and things. So I think that those bonds tend to have a pretty long tail. And again, I think...
Tim Weiss: We can't just react to every single headline that pops up day to day, and again, I would highlight what we see in the non-respaced right now again. The institutional verticals are resilient. The aftermarket is very resilient and I'm proud of our performance in the aftermarket. I think we have been gaining some share there just with better performance and a better product portfolio.
Tim Weiss: So that's what's all coming together from our view to reinforce the guide this year.
Tim Weiss: Okay, that's helpful. Thanks a lot for that. And then just on the terrace, you know, if you would kind of look at your kind of China and I'd guess other country kind of sourcing how, how would you think you frame up relative to your competitors? I'm just curious if...
Tim Weiss: You're kind of on the lower end, you know, relative to your peers, if you're kind of on the higher end in the middle kind of how would you kind of assess your relative kind of supply chain versus your competitors in the US.
Speaker Change: Yeah, for sure, I don't know. I'm not the guy to speak to their supply chains, but I would say in general what we see on the residential side is by and large the industry imports. That's from a range of countries.
We import from Mexico vast majority under USMCA compliant products.
Speaker Change: We have been reducing our China exposure with the investment of the new plant in Corridor, Mexico that we've talked about probably for the last two years now.
and so that's kind of automatically continuing to...
Speaker Change: Reduce China and build up a better supply chain there in Correterale.
Speaker Change: On the non-rest side, I'd say our impression is our largest competitor probably has a footprint pretty close to ours and generally you make and source in region.
Speaker Change: Some of the smaller competitors on the non-reside. I could...
Speaker Change: Surmised, they're a bit more import-heavy than we are, but that's just a guess. I don't know for sure.
Okay, sounds good. Thank you guys for the time.
Thanks again.
Speaker Change: The next question comes from Jeff Sprague from Vertical Research. Please go ahead.
Hey, thank you. Good morning, everyone. Good job.
Speaker Change: Hey, good morning, John . Not to make you reiterate what you said on the institutional markets, but
Just the comment about specifications.
Speaker Change: You know, using strong specifications, for example, might seem at odds to kind of the, you know, the ABI and things of that nature. So maybe just a little bit more color on how you try to, you know, sort out what the market signals really are here.
Speaker Change: Quite varied. Specifications on a large mega-project could be a couple of years before realized revenue. Specifications on a small project, renovations, something like that could be months.
Speaker Change: and so it's always a little bit different, but for us internally, it is a good indicator of capturing project business.
Speaker Change: and it is something that we do use to drive our own activity within the company. So it's helpful is it a linear relationship that you can count on quarter to quarter? No, that's not the right way to look at it. For us, it's just a general gauge of activity.
Speaker Change: I appreciate that. And then also understand you don't want to move the revenue target around with everything so fluid every day.
Speaker Change: But would it be reasonable to assume that you're really looking at sort of an upside revenue case but maybe some pressure on margins, right? I don't know if your goal on tariffs is to offset dollar for dollar or at the margin rate, right? But if it's dollar neutral, it's margin negative.
Speaker Change: Again, maybe we're splitting hairs, but just wondering how you think about, you know, how the year might progress from a revenue versus margin standpoint. Yeah Jeff, thanks for that question. As we think about it, we offset it at the dollar basis.
Jeff Sprague: That's consistent with what we said at year end and we still feel that way. So your question was spot on. That's how we're thinking about it from a margin rate.
Speaker Change: You can do it. Hear any of the math to come. Yeah, no. Yeah, no, I get it. I think a lot of people forget that math, the numerators and denominators. So just want to be clear on that. And then just one of the quick ones, speaking of margin rate.
Speaker Change: Even taking out the $3 million from Mexico, I think that...
Speaker Change: You know, that America's margin in Q1 is the best Q1 margin you've ever printed.
Speaker Change: I guess the mix is positive with Rosie Week and electronic strong, but anything else you would say about the margin rate in the quarter, mix within mix, or something else going on there that supported that level of margin.
Speaker Change: One item I will highlight for you is our non-residential business as you know is a more profitable product line than the non-res is more profitable than res.
Speaker Change: And so you have to consider that when you look at margin rates, obviously non-res, growing residential declining, so that's the one I am I'll call out for you.
Right, all right. Thank you.
Joe O'Day: The next question comes from Joe O'Day from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning.
Joe O'Day: Clearly a really good start to the year. I just want to understand what the framework is as you think about Q2.
Joe O'Day: and expectation setting. I think you talked about, you know, maybe there's a little bit of a price cost timing impact, but just from the demand side also sounds like no real pull forward, really strong volumes in America's in Q1.
Joe O'Day: and so is it really just a margin sensitivity? Just given strong beat in Q1, no raise at this point in the guide.
Joe O'Day: Any first half second half framework would be helpful as it's roughly 48% first half of the year on EPS and anything they are just to kind of help level set on how things are pacing in the first half.
Joe O'Day: Yeah, thanks for the question, Joe. I would say, obviously, when you model us and you've heard me say this before, get the full year first and then work on the quarters.
Joe O'Day: I did call out earlier the concept of that that month-ish lag price cost. I think it's important for you to consider that.
Joe O'Day: Absence that we're not calling any pola head from Q2 into the first quarter so I think the key thing for you to consider is that an item I mentioned earlier
Joe O'Day: Get the full year and then consider that in your model. And then also the tax rate. We did have an unusual tax rate in Q1.
Joe O'Day: So my prepared remarks, you know, I mentioned about first half as similar to second half that is different than normal for us so when you model that just kind of take that into consideration
Joe O'Day: That's hopeful. And then can you just spend a little bit of time on the go-to-market and distribution and what might be a little bit unique about kind of locks and contract hardware dealers, because I think there's some attention on the degree to which there's pull forward or whether there's just stocking ahead of price increases but
Joe O'Day: How much of the business would generally be stock inflow nature versus this is this is spec in and the short cycle nature of it is just dependent on the timing of when the project needs the products but it's not exactly stock inflow.
If you look at our, and in my opinion,
that the industry's finest field sales and marketing team.
Joe O'Day: You split those folks three to one, three folks working on end-user demand generation through architectural design, through end-user consulting on complex spaces, etc.
Joe O'Day: and then that demand generation helps pull our products through the channel.
Joe O'Day: We, and generally as an industry, we operate on short lead times. You know, this is a book and ship business.
Joe O'Day: I would say that pull strategy makes it quite similar for the majority of our distribution partners. Like I mentioned earlier in the Q&A, watching very closely to see evidence of any pull ahead or any...
Joe O'Day: like inventory builds and on the non-reside we're just not seeing that at this point.
Joe O'Day: I'd say with our largest distribution partners on the non-reside we do watch Celthru. Celthru has been very healthy and so at this point
Joe O'Day: Just not seeing evidence of any large inventory build, but again, very volatile time, so premature to do anything different than we did on the outlook.
Joe O'Day: And that's how we would see it, Book and Ship Business.
David, thank you.
[inaudible]
Speaker Change: The next question comes from Brett Linzey from Mizzouho. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning, all
Speaker Change: Yeah, I wanted to come back just to pricing and trying to understand the timing and the magnitude here has all the price you need to offset the 80 million now been announced with this the second April round of price.
Speaker Change: or should we expect more actions to ramp and feather through the boughs of the year?
I would answer it this way.
Speaker Change: Brett, we will always announce to the channel first, and we made that announcement based on the tariffs that are in place today. I think that's the key clarifier. So anything that the President announced or the administration announced already in April , we've taken the actions. Thank you very much.
and that's in the marketplace now.
Yep.
Speaker Change: Got it. And then I guess just maybe the mechanics between list price and surcharge, you did flag the surcharge.
Speaker Change: Pat as well. I guess what does the composition between those two pricing levers look like? And then I guess at what point do you just assume the tariff or maybe structural, you begin to convert some of the surcharge to list over time, just try to understand the mix there.
Yeah, that's fair. We did opt for...
Surcharge.
rather than list price changes at this point.
Speaker Change: I think the amplitude of the volatility and the continual nature of the volatility just has us focused on remain agile.
Speaker Change: Do our analysis, make sure we understand our exposures and our impact, and then work with our channel partners to mitigate that impact. That's what we've done so far. That's why we're confident to reiterate the guide today and looking forward. I think that's the best way to think about us. We will remain agile and resilient.
All right. Appreciate the insight.
Julian Mitchell: The next question comes from Julian Mitchell from Barclays. Please go ahead.
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Julian Mitchell: and I have two parts to that. One is, what are you seeing in the replacement?
Julian Mitchell: Pripy and hangover that has happened and leaving aside Greenfield which is weak. What do you see in kind of on fundamentals and sell out in the replacement market and also on market share in residential?
Julian Mitchell: because of the struggles that a lot of the importing rivals will have. Is that something you're pushing your sales force to do or it's more around the margins are lower so you're kind of just happy with your share as is.
Speaker Change: Okay. Thanks for the question. Julian, I would say a year ago or nine months ago, we were very hopeful for a better outlook on US residential, but with persistently high mortgage rates. You know, affordability is still a challenge in the country, even though we know there is a housing shortage. There is...
Speaker Change: That dynamic is still there, but mortgage rates are still high, tariff uncertainty and construction costs are a wild card right now. So, Resi, as we mentioned earlier in the prepare remarks, we expected just to continue to remain soft.
Speaker Change: I'd say maybe bouncing along the bottom until there is a notable catalyst to change that. Our residential [inaudible]
Speaker Change: Round numbers we've shared for a while and that I think still holds [inaudible]
Thank you.
Speaker Change: in terms of other imports and cost advantages or disadvantages, I think it's really premature to put too much stock into that right now just because of the very volatile nature of the tariff environment we've been in. So time will tell on that.
Speaker Change: where we've been focused as you saw in the presentation is on the electronic side where we feel we're an innovation leader. We are differentiated, we continue to bring differentiated product to market.
Speaker Change: and Drive Growth in Electronics. And they use these recent two new products, new front door locks. I think you might even be a customer for one of them because they're very, very exciting, good innovation, good technology premium products.
Speaker Change: That's helpful. Thanks very much. And then, as we think about the...
Lin, sort of around zero for the balance of the year, is that sort of the aspiration with the surcharges and all the rest of it?
Julian Mitchell: Yeah, thanks for the question, Julian. That's exactly how we think about it, right? Price and productivity, covering that inflation and investment, right? So think of it as neutral for the year. We have a challenge queue for I address that on that call.
Julian Mitchell: But felt confident in the ability to get it back to the normal, you know, neutral that we just mentioned.
Julian Mitchell: You saw that in Q1. Expect that to be that for the full year. Quarter to quarter, it could have been flowed like you saw Q4 last year. I also mentioned in Q2 the timing lag.
Julian Mitchell: But for the full year, think of it as a neutral number like you mentioned.
That's great. Thanks very much.
Speaker Change: The next question comes from Chris Snyder from Oregon Stanley, please go ahead.
Speaker Change: Thank you. I wanted to just follow up with a quick one on the mechanics of the guy so if I'm understanding right
Speaker Change: The revenue guide does not assume any uplift for incremental or for price action or surcharge, I guess, related to the tariffs, but the operating profit guide does reflect.
Those Price Actions [inaudible]
Speaker Change: Yeah, if you read the press release, that's explicitly stated in the release, Chris, so you have a correct.
Thank you.
Speaker Change: You know, I guess do you not think that that will impact your volumes this year or is it like you were saying earlier, you know, we're so late cycle that that would hit us, or any maybe slow down a new project that would hit us in the out years and any color on that would be helpful. Thank you.
Yeah, very first lesson and certainly I'd say
as interest rates rose in recent times.
Speaker Change: You did see some of that on the private finance market, private projects.
Speaker Change: Might have gone through planning phase, might have gone through design with the architect and then just...
Speaker Change: Press pause to wait for a bit more favorable financing environment. Late last year we did talk about interest rates as a key swing factor, I think, as you mentioned, we hear evidence of a similar dynamic, so I'd say as...
interest rates do come down as
Speaker Change: A more favorable investment environment comes about. It does feel like there's a lot of already designed, already planned projects that could go forward. We'll just have to wait and see what's the catalyst to get that environment a bit more favorable.
Thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker Change: Again, if you have a question, please press star then one and our last question comes from Andrew Obin from Bank of America, please go ahead.
Ayesha, good morning.
Can you hear me? Yes, yes.
Speaker Change: Oh, good morning. Yeah, just a follow-up on Chris's question. You know, lots of consternation about...
Potenture Recession couple of weeks ago.
Speaker Change: You know, these concerns, seemingly have got away. What are you guys seeing in terms of?
Speaker Change: Momentum in the channel, so far, clearly you guys not calling for a recession. What makes you confident in your outlook? What are we seeing in April ? If you could give us some color there, thank you.
Speaker Change: That appreciates the question, Andrew, and I'd say, you know, we don't guide quarters. We're certainly not kind of guide a month.
but...
If you look at the progression of positive volume growth,
Speaker Change: in the last few quarters of 2024. We exited 24 with good momentum and non-res.
Speaker Change: That momentum has continued thus far this year in non-res and I think again it's a healthy aftermarket, it's a resilient institutional verticals.
Speaker Change: New products that Allegion has brought to market, contributing to the internal indicators that give us confidence in the four-year guide.
Speaker Change: You know, people talking about, you know, maybe potential German recovery.
Sometime in the second half.
Speaker Change: What are you seeing in Europe ? What are you seeing in Chica? What's the messaging from your German channel into the second half of the year? Thank you.
Speaker Change: Yeah, great, great question. Andrew, love talking about international because, again, that that business unit is continues to perform well in the face of kind of flatish markets. In Europe , I would say,
Speaker Change: Germany with the political upheaval they had at the end of 2024.
Speaker Change: Slowdown, pretty dramatically. I do feel there is more optimism now if the new coalition gets built a little bit more conversation about investment. Thank you very much.
Speaker Change: and the country will see how that plays out, but it does feel better than it did in Q4, but I think still...
Speaker Change: Premature for us to change anything, we're just going to reiterate the guide.
Speaker Change: Italy, Cheezer, you specifically asked. Really proud of that team. They've done a lot of self-help work on their portfolio and their factories have been gaining market share as a result so new products hitting the market. Very proud of them. Cheezers perform well. So thanks for the call out.
Speaker Change: but no near-term improvement in terms of macro and Italy.
Speaker Change: I think that the best we can say, Andrew, is again just reiterating the full-year guide. Is this how you ought to think about us?
OK, thank you.
Speaker Change: This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to John Stone for any closing remarks.
Speaker Change: Well, thanks everyone for the great Q&A. We look forward to connecting with you in New York at our investor day, where you will hear a little bit more about our long-term growth strategy and I would just leave you with...
John Stone: More important, particularly in times like today, and that's personal safety and security, and that's what we do. So come see us in May in New York, or join us for our Q2 Harnings call in July . Be safe, be health everyone, thanks for the time.
Speaker Change: The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.