Q1 2025 Paysign Inc Earnings Call

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Mark Newcomer: It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. Mark Newcomer, CEO. Please go ahead. Thank you, Chelsea. And good afternoon, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today to go over our first quarter 2025 results.

Speaker Change: It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. Mark Newcomer CEO. Please go ahead.

Speaker Change: Thank you Chelsea and good afternoon, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today to go over our first quarter 2025 results I'm, Mark newcomer President and Chief Executive Officer, and I'm joined by our CFO, Jeff Baker.

Mark Newcomer: I'm Mark Newcomer, President and Chief Executive Officer, and I'm joined by our CFO, Jeff Baker.

Mark Newcomer: Also with us for Q&A portion are Matt Turner, President of Patient Affordability, and Matt Lanford, our Chief Payments Officer.

Speaker Change: Also with us for Q&A portion or Matt Turner, President on patient affordability, and Matt Lanford, our chief payments Officer.

Mark Newcomer: Earlier today, we released our Q1 results, and I'm pleased to say it was another record-setting quarter for Paysign. We are continuing to see strong momentum across the board. Revenue, operating income, and adjusted EBITDA all hit new highs, and the fundamentals of our business remain exceptionally healthy.

Speaker Change: Earlier today, we released our Q1 results and I'm pleased to say it was another record setting quarter for pesos.

Speaker Change: We are continuing to see strong momentum across the board.

Q1 numbers.

Mark Newcomer: Let's dive into the Q1 numbers. Revenue grew 41% year-over-year to $18.6 million, up from $13.2 million in Q1 of last year. Net income surged to $2.59 million. That's a 737% increase over Q1 2024. Adjusted EBITDA jumped 193% to $4.9 million, and we saw a major boost in gross margin, which expanded over 10 points to 62.9%. That's not just growth, it's efficient, high-quality growth.

Speaker Change: Revenue grew 41% year-over-year to 18.6 million, up from 13.2 million in Q1 of last year.

Speaker Change: Net income surged to $2.59 million. That's a 737% increase over Q1, 2020-4.

Mark Newcomer: Our patient affordability business continued to outperform expectations. Revenues rose 261% year-over-year to $8.6 million. Claims processed grew by more than 160%, and we added 14 new programs this quarter, already outpacing the 10 new programs we added in the same period last year. We now support 90 active programs spanning retail and specialty therapies including pharmacy and medical benefit designs across a wide range of therapeutic areas. This is a real vote of confidence for the demand for our solutions and in the value we bring with our dynamic business rules technology. In 2024, dynamic business rules saved our clients more than $100 million by mitigating the impact of copay maximizers.

Speaker Change: Our patient affordability business continued to outperform expectations. Revenue rose 261% year-over-year to 8.6 million. Claims processed, grew by more than 160% and we added 14 new programs this quarter. Already outpacing the 10 new programs we added in the same period last year.

Speaker Change: We now support 90 active programs spanning retail and specialty therapies, including pharmacy and medical benefit designs across a wide range of therapeutic areas.

Speaker Change: This is a real vote of confidence for the demand for our solutions and in the value we bring with our dynamic business rules technology.

Speaker Change: In 2024, Dynamic Business Rules saved our clients more than $100 million by mitigating the impact of co-pay maximizers.

Mark Newcomer: As of today, we've already topped last year's savings total, which speaks volume about the tangible return on investments our platform delivers to pharmaceutical manufacturers.

Speaker Change: As of today, we've already topped last year's savings total, which speaks volume about the tangible return on investments our platform delivers to pharmaceutical manufacturers.

Mark Newcomer: At the end of April, our team attended the Assembly Summit 2025 here in Las Vegas. It's a flagship event for our industry, bringing together pharmaceutical manufacturers, hub service providers, specialty pharmacies, payers, and technology vendors. We brought a full cross-functional team to engage with current and prospective clients. We hosted more than 40 meetings and events that provided direct access to key decision makers, and the response to our solutions was extremely positive. Thanks to this engagement and the strong execution of our sales teams, our sales cycle continues to be efficient, typically ranging between 90 and 120 days.

Speaker Change: At the end of April , our team attended the assembly of Summit 2025 here in Las Vegas. It's a flagship event for our industry bringing together pharmaceutical manufacturers, hub service providers, specialty pharmacies, payers, and technology vendors.

Speaker Change: We brought a full cross-functional team to engage with current and prospective clients. We hosted more than 40 meetings and events that provided direct access to key decision makers and the response to our solutions was extremely positive.

Speaker Change: Thanks to this engagement and the strong execution of our sales teams or sales cycle continues to be efficient typically ranging between 90 and 120 days.

Mark Newcomer: Based on what we are seeing in the pipeline and results from this quarter, we believe patient affordability revenue will more than double again in 2025.

Speaker Change: Based on what we are seeing in the pipeline and results from this quarter, we believe patient affordability revenue will more than double again in 2025.

Mark Newcomer: Now let's touch on the plasmid donor compensation. Revenue in this segment came in at $9.4 million, down 9.2% from $10.3 million in Q1 2024. We ended the quarter with 484 centers, adding 4 new centers during the period, and we expect to onboard 5 to 10 more during the remainder of this year.

Speaker Change: Now, let's touch on the plasma donor compensation.

Speaker Change: Revenue in this segment came in at $9 4 million down nine 2% from $10 3 million in Q1 2024.

Speaker Change: We ended the quarter with 484 centers, adding four new centers during the period and we expect to onboard five to 10 more during the remainder of this year.

Mark Newcomer: As we've mentioned before, this segment is facing headwinds due to continued source plasma supply surpluses and improved collection efficiencies at the center level. We expect these conditions to persist throughout the rest of the year. That said, we're investing in innovation here too.

Speaker Change: As we've mentioned before this segment is facing headwinds due to continued source plasma supply surpluses and improve collection efficiencies at the center level. We expect these conditions to persist throughout the rest of the year.

Speaker Change: That said, we're investing in innovation here too and.

Mark Newcomer: In late March, we acquired Gamma Innovation, a move that strengthens our tech stack and positions us to offer a full front-end engagement platform integrated with our core payment solutions, starting with the plasma industry. This includes a donor engagement app, a plasma-specific CRM, and a donor management system, all seamlessly integrated with our existing payments infrastructure. The industry response has been enthusiastic.

Speaker Change: In late March we acquired Gamma innovation.

Speaker Change: That strengthens our tech stack and positions us to offer a full front end engagement platform integrated with our core payment solutions, starting with the plasma industry.

Speaker Change: This includes the donor engagement app plasma specific CRM and the donor management system, all seamlessly integrated with our existing payments infrastructure.

Speaker Change: The industry response has been enthusiastic we will be showcasing these solutions at the international plasma protein Congress later this month.

Mark Newcomer: We will be showcasing these solutions at the International Plasma Protein Congress later this month. This is a key and strategic opportunity to expand our presence in the plasma market and introduce new capabilities to both existing and prospective clients. We believe this enhanced offering positions us to unlock additional revenue streams, expand our total addressable market, and strengthen our competitive differentiation in the plasma space.

Speaker Change: This is a key and strategic opportunity to expand our presence in the plasma market and introduce new capabilities to both existing and perspective clients.

Speaker Change: We believe this enhanced offering positions us to unlock additional revenue streams expand our total addressable market and strengthen our competitive differentiation in the plasma space.

Mark Newcomer: We see the opportunity to take this integrated model beyond plasma and into the broader pharmaceutical and healthcare sectors, where engagement, patient adherence, and retention is mission critical for drug manufacturers, providers, and payers alike.

Speaker Change: We see the opportunity to take this integrated model beyond plasma and into the broader pharmaceutical and health care sectors, where engagement patient adherence and retention is mission critical for drug manufacturers providers and payers alike.

Mark Newcomer: Operationally, the GAM acquisition is already paying off. We're implementing a set of efficiency measures that, once fully realized, are expected to add $4 to $5 million in annual cash flow.

Speaker Change: Operationally the Gam acquisition is already paying off we're implementing a set of efficiency measures that once fully realized are expected to add $4 million to $5 million in annual cash flow.

Mark Newcomer: To wrap up, Q1 was a strong start to the year. We're scaling efficiently, solving real-world problems for our customers, and executing with discipline. I'm incredibly proud of the team and excited about what lies ahead. We're confident in our growth trajectory and committed to delivering long term value to our shareholders.

Speaker Change: To wrap up Q1 was a strong start to the year.

Speaker Change: We're scaling efficiently solving real world problems for our customers and executing with discipline I'm incredibly proud of the team and excited about what lies ahead, we're confident in our growth trajectory and committed to delivering long term value to our shareholders with that I'll hand, it over to Jeff to walk you through the financials in more details.

Jeff Baker: With that, I'll hand it over to Jeff to walk you through the financials in more detail. Thank you, Mark. Good afternoon, everyone. As Mark said, we had a solid first quarter driven by momentum we're experiencing with our patient affordability business. Our results for the quarter exceeded our expectations despite weakness in our plasma business related to excess industry-wide inventory levels as we discussed on our last conference call. Our plasma business declined 9.2% to $9.4 million, and our revenue per plasma center declined to $6,517. We added four net plasma centers, exiting the quarter with 484 centers. Gross dollars loaded to cards decreased 4.5%, total number of loads decreased 9.3%, and gross spend volume decreased 9.4%.

Jeff Baker: Thank you Mark good afternoon, everyone as Mark said, we had a solid first quarter driven by momentum, we're experiencing with our patient affordability business our results for the quarter exceeded our expectations. Despite weakness in our plasma business related to excess industry wide inventory levels as we discussed on our last call.

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Jeff Baker: Our plasma business declined nine 2% to $9 $4 million and our revenue per plasma center declined to $6517. We added four net plasma centers exiting the quarter with 484 centers.

Jeff Baker: Gross dollars loaded to cards decreased 4.5% total number of loads decreased nine 3% and gross spend volume decreased nine 4%.

Jeff Baker: Moving to our patient affordability business, first quarter pharma revenues of $8.6 million was up 260.8% and accounted for 46.3% of quarterly revenues. This is a significant increase from the 18.1% of revenues that pharma represented during the same period last year. We added 14 NET programs exiting the quarter with 90 pharma patient affordability programs. Early operating efficiencies from our GAMA acquisition are very promising as we look to reduce the reliance of third-party professional services that have historically been capitalized as part of our platform development costs. By the end of our second quarter, we expect to be on an annual run rate for cash cost savings of $4 to $5 million.

Jeff Baker: Moving to our patient affordability business first quarter pharma revenues of $8 $6 million was up 268% and accounted for 46, 3% of quarterly revenues. This is a significant increase from the 18.1% of revenues that pharma represented during the <unk>.

Jeff Baker: Period last year, we added 14 net programs exiting the quarter with 90 pharma patient affordability programs.

Jeff Baker: Early operating efficiencies from our gamma acquisition are very promising as we look to reduce the reliance on third party professional services that have historically been capitalized as part of our platform development costs.

Jeff Baker: By the end of our second quarter, we expect to be on an annual run rate for cash cost savings of $4 million to $5 million.

Jeff Baker: As in previous calls, with all the details we provided in the press release and that will be available in our 10K filing tomorrow morning, I will simply hit the financial highlights for the first quarter of 2025 versus the same period last year. First quarter 2025 total revenues of $18.6 million increased $5.4 million, or 41%. Gross profit margin for the quarter was 62.9% versus 52.6% during the same period last year. SG&A for the quarter, excluding depreciation and amortization and stock-based compensation, increased 28.2% to $6.7 million, with total operating expenses increasing 27.8% to $9.2 million. We have made significant investments in IT and employees over the past year to support the continued growth of our businesses, exiting the quarter with 190 employees versus 132 employees during the same period last year.

Jeff Baker: As in previous calls with all the details we provided in the press release and that will be available in our 10-K filing tomorrow morning, I will simply hit the financial highlights for the first quarter of 2025 versus the same period last year.

Jeff Baker: First quarter 2025, total revenues of $18 $6 million increased $5 $4 million or 41% gross profit margin for the quarter was 62, 9% versus 52, 6% during the same period last year.

Jeff Baker: SG&A for the quarter, excluding depreciation and amortization and stock based compensation increased 28, 2% to $6 $7 million with total operating expenses, increasing 27, 8% to $9.2 million. We have made significant investments in I T and employees over the past.

Jeff Baker: Year to support the continued growth of our businesses exited the quarter with 190 employees versus 132 employees during the same period last year.

Jeff Baker: For the quarter, we posted a net income of $2.6 million, or $0.05 per fully diluted share, versus $300,000, or $0.01 per fully diluted share for the same period last year. First quarter adjusted EBITDA, which is a non-gap measure that adds back stock compensation to EBITDA, was $5 million, or $0.09 per diluted share versus $1.7 million, or $0.03 per diluted share for the same period last year. The fully diluted share count for the quarters used in calculating the per share amounts was $55.1 million and $54.8 million respectively. Regarding the health of our company, We exited the quarter with $6.9 million in unrestricted cash and zero debt.

Jeff Baker: For the quarter, we posted a net income of $2.6 million or five cents per fully diluted share versus $300000 or one cent per fully diluted share for the same period last year.

Jeff Baker: First quarter, adjusted EBITDA, which is a non-GAAP measure that adds back stock compensation to EBITDA was $5 million or nine cents per diluted share versus $1 $7 million or three cents per diluted share for the same period last year.

Jeff Baker: The fully diluted share count for the quarters used in calculating the per share amounts was $555 1 million and $54 8 million respectfully.

Jeff Baker: Regarding the health of our company.

Jeff Baker: We exited the quarter with $6 $9 million in unrestricted cash and zero debt. The first quarter is typically our highest uses of cash as we pay accrued liabilities from the previous year.

Jeff Baker: The first quarter is typically our highest uses of cash as we pay accrued liabilities from the previous year. This year also included a $2 million cash payment for our gamma acquisition and the repurchase of 100,000 shares of stock for approximately $376,000.

Jeff Baker: This year also included a $2 million cash payment for our gamma acquisition and the repurchase of 100000 shares of stock for approximately $376000.

Jeff Baker: Now turning your attention to our revised guidance for 2025, which now incorporates Q1 actuals and the substantially completed purchase price allocation related to the gamma acquisition. We expect total revenues to be in the range of $72 million to $74 million, reflecting year-over-year growth of 25% at the midpoint. Plasma is estimated to make up approximately 57% of total revenue, representing a year-over-year decline of 8-10%, while Pharma revenue is expected to make up approximately 43% of total revenue, representing year-over-year growth of over 135%.

Jeff Baker: Now turning your attention to our revised guidance for 'twenty twenty-five, which now incorporates Q1 actuals and the substantially completed purchase price allocation related to the Gama acquisition. We expect total revenues to be in the range of $72 million to $74 million, reflecting year over year growth of 25% at the midpoint.

Jeff Baker: Plasma is estimated to make up approximately 57% of total revenue representing a year over year decline of 8% to 10%. While pharma revenue is expected to make up approximately 43% of total revenue representing year over year growth of over 135%.

Jeff Baker: Given the seasonality we see with our patient affordability business and trends in our pharma business, we continue to forecast revenue to be slightly higher in the first half of the year compared to the second half of the year, with a corresponding impact on operating income. Four-year gross profit margins are expected to be between 62% to 64%, reflecting stable margins in our plasma business and increased revenue contribution from our higher margin pharma patient affordability business. Operating expenses are being revised lower due to operational synergies driven by the gamma acquisition, as well as revisions to stock compensation and amortization following the purchase price allocation for gamma.

Jeff Baker: Given the seasonality, we see with our patient affordability business and trends in our pharma business. We continue to forecast revenue to be slightly higher in the first half of the year compared to the second half of the year with a corresponding impact on operating income.

Jeff Baker: Full year gross profit margins are expected to be between 62% to 64%, reflecting stable margins in our plasma business and increased revenue contribution from our higher margin pharma patient affordability business.

Jeff Baker: Operating expenses are being revised lower due to operational synergies driven by the Gama acquisition as well as revisions to stock compensation and amortization following the purchase price allocation for gamma.

Jeff Baker: Operating expenses are now expected to be between $41 million and $43 million, with depreciation and amortization expense of approximately $8 million and stock-based compensation of approximately $3.8 million. Interest income is expected to be approximately $2.9 million.

Jeff Baker: Operating expenses are now expected to be between $41 million and $43 million with depreciation and amortization expense of approximately $8 million and stock based compensation of approximately $3.8 million.

Jeff Baker: Interest income is expected to be approximately $2 $9 million, taking all of the factors above into consideration. We now expect net income to be between six and $7 million for the year or 10 cents to 12 cents per fully diluted share adjusted.

Jeff Baker: Taking all of the factors above into consideration, we now expect net income to be between $6 and $7 million for the year, or $0.10 to $0.12 per fully diluted share. Adjusted EBITDA is expected to be in the range of $16 to $17 million, or $0.28 to $0.30 per fully diluted share. The diluted share count for the year is estimated to be around 56 million shares.

Jeff Baker: Adjusted EBITDA is expected to be in the range of $16 million to $17 million or 28 to 30 cents per fully diluted share the.

Jeff Baker: The diluted share count for the year is estimated to be around 56 million shares.

Jeff Baker: For the second quarter of 2025, we expect total revenue to be in the range of $18.5 million to $19 million, reflecting continued strength from our patient affordability business, offset by weakness with our plasma business. We expect plasma revenues to be approximately 54 to 55 percent of revenue and patient affordability to be approximately 41 to 42 percent of revenue. Gross profit margins are expected to be 63 to 64 percent. Operating expenses are expected to be between $10 million and $11 million, of which depreciation and amortization will be approximately $2 million, and stock-based compensation will be approximately $1 million.

Jeff Baker: For the second quarter of 2025, we expect total revenue to be in the range of $18 $5 million to $19 million, reflecting continued strength from our patient affordability business offset by weakness with our plasma business, we expect plasma revenues to be approximately 54% to 55% of revenue and patient affordability.

Jeff Baker: To be approximately 41% to 42% of revenue gross profit.

Jeff Baker: But margins are expected to be 63% to 64%.

Jeff Baker: Operating expenses are expected to be between $10 million and $11 million of which depreciation and amortization will be approximately $2 million and stock based compensation will be approximately $1 million. Adjusted EBITDA is expected to be in the range of four and a half to $5 million or approximately 25, 5% of revenue.

Jeff Baker: Adjusted EBITDA is expected to be in the range of $4.5 to $5 million, or approximately 25.5% of revenue.

Chelsea: With that, I would like to turn the call back over to Chelsea for questions and answers. Thank you.

Chelsea: With that I would like to turn the call back over to Chelsea for questions and answers.

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