Q1 2025 Inspirato Inc Earnings Call

Bita Melanian: It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, beta-millanian senior vice president of marketing. Beta, you may begin.

Bita Melanian: Thank you operator and hello everyone. Welcome to Inspirato's first quarter 2025 earnings conference call. I'm Beatam Lanyan, Senior Vice President of Marketing at Inspirato.

Bita Melanian: Joining me today are Payum Zamani, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Michael Arthur, our Chief Financial Officer.

Bita Melanian: Before we begin, please note that today's call is being broadcast live and will also be archived on the investor relations section of our website at Inspirato.com. You can also find our earnings press release and the supplemental materials currently available there for your reference.

Bita Melanian: As a reminder, some of today's comments are forward looking statements. These statements are based on assumptions, and actual results could differ materially.

Bita Melanian: For the discussion of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to our filings with the SDC, including our most recent annual report on form 10K and our subsequent first quartered report on form 10Q.

Bita Melanian: These measures should not be considered an isolation or the substitute for our financial results prepared in accordance with GAT. Reconciliation of these measures to the most directly comparable GAT measures are included in our earnings release.

Bita Melanian: With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Inspirato's chairman and CEO , Pya Amzamani.

Payam Zamani: Thank you, Vita, and hello everyone. Yesterday afternoon, we issued a press release announcing our financial and operational results for the first quarter.

Payam Zamani: I encourage all listeners to review the press release, which has been posted to our Investor Relations website as it contains information relevant to today's call. Before I give a recap of the quarter, I would like to briefly introduce Inspirato to those who may be new to our story.

Payam Zamani: Inspirato is a premier luxury vacation club and property technology company offering access to curated portfolio of high-end homes, hotels and exclusive experiences around

Payam Zamani: with over 340 luxury homes and many high-end hotel partnerships in over 170 destinations. Our mission is to deliver unmatched service, seamless travel planning, and one of a kind of larger travel that creates lasting memories.

Payam Zamani: We serve over 11,000 members in delivering that mission every day and today we're doing that while continuing to transform the business.

Payam Zamani: by fine-tuning our car space and investing in a robust digital marketing and technology platform to build a more scalable, durable and efficient growth model for the future.

Payam Zamani: Now, let's get into the updates. Q1 was a foundational quarter for Inspirato, one that reflects the impact of our ongoing strategic focus and positions us for profitable growth as a leader in larger travel.

Payam Zamani: This is an exciting moment for Inspirato. In my view, the first quarter marks the most important period for our business since becoming a public company. And while the numbers matter, it is a transformation behind those numbers that will truly set the stage for what's ahead.

Payam Zamani: and Q Wondley delivered the strongest adjusted EBITDA performance in our history.

Payam Zamani: Why we believe, which we believe signals that our strategic shift toward our operational discipline is working.

Payam Zamani: We've laid the groundwork for sustainable profitability by focusing on what we can control, while also strategically investing in the key areas that will be fine at future growth.

Payam Zamani: This isn't about short-term wins. It's about building a smarter, more focused, and more powerful Inspirato. One that's ready to scale with efficiency, serve with unmatched quality, and over the years to come, expanding to a much larger opportunity.

Payam Zamani: On our last call, I discussed several key pillars that will provide the foundation for future business and why I believe they position us to define and lead the future of luxury travel and experiences.

Payam Zamani: As a reminder, these pillars are one operational efficiency, two brand elevation, three member experience and four, a robust technology and digital marketing platform.

Payam Zamani: First, we're focused on driving off-prachial efficiency to strengthen our financial infrastructure and drive operating leverage as we grow.

Payam Zamani: The most immediate proof point has been in our bottom line, delivering record-adjusted EBITAN Q1 provides a good early indication that the steps we've taken to streamline our creations reduce fixed commitments and improve cost discipline or working

Payam Zamani: We've done all that while we have also invested in elevating the quality of our services

Payam Zamani: But we're far from done. We see clear path to drive gross margin expansion, particularly by optimizing our non-least cost of revenue expense line items. This is where discipline meets opportunity and we're approaching it with a long-term mindset.

Payam Zamani: Every process, every cost center, every touch point is under review to make sure it supports our long-term goals and contributes the value we deliver our travelers.

Payam Zamani: A facial excellence is not a one time project. It's a core competency we're building into DNA of the company.

Payam Zamani: Second, we're evolving as fraudulent into a truly aspirational luxury brand, one that not only delivers exceptional experiences, but inspires a level of desire, loyalty and pride.

Payam Zamani: In Q1 we laid the groundwork for more elevated bramisos, one rooted in luxury consistency and frequency of presence, we're reintroducing ourselves the world with more dynamic and consistent marketing campaigns that tell the Inspirato story with clarity and confidence.

Payam Zamani: It's not just about being known, it's about being synonymous with luxury travel and experiences, the kind of brand that turns heads, builds trust and saves a couple of minds when travelers are ready to explore.

Payam Zamani: We're doubling down on member experience. We're focused on elevating our service and experiences to be more consistent, curated, and unique.

Payam Zamani: All through the lens of providing truly one-of-a-kind luxury experiences, everything we do starts their members, how we surprise and delight, how we earn loyalty and how we become indispensable to the most important moments.

Payam Zamani: We're working to ensure every interaction feels intentional, elevated, and deeply personal from preacher planning to a dedicated care team who understands each family's unique preferences and up to the moment that a member walks into one of our homes.

Payam Zamani: We're building on an industry leading net promoter score of over 17 in 2024, a testament to the trust and satisfaction we've already earned.

Payam Zamani: We're now stopping there. We've launched new initiatives to standardize service quality across all member touch points, including enhanced consumer training and a fresh set of service standards rolling out later this year.

Payam Zamani: We're also curating our property and experiences portfolio with more rigor, ensuring that every home destination offering meets the elevated standards of quality, style and ambiance our members expect. At the same time, we're enhancing the unique value proposition

Payam Zamani: of being a member, not just to aspirational travel, but with exclusive parts and benefits that deepen loyalty and reward long-term engagement with our brand. For instance, a recent partnership is sixth.

Payam Zamani: The six-correntile company provides members with more than just premium

Payam Zamani: It offers elevated membership status while receiving to serve pricing, ensuring seamless luxury from arrival to departure. Additionally, we've renewed strategic partnerships with renowned hotels like Andas and Fairmont.

Payam Zamani: Cranding our members' exclusive access to select accommodations at these esteem resorts.

Payam Zamani: While we do not expect these partnerships to have a material impact on revenue or profitability in the newsroom, these collaborations underscore commitment to delivering on parallel service and exclusive benefits that resonate with our members and their discerning case.

Payam Zamani: And lastly, we're building a robust technology and digital marketing platform that will unlock massive new potential for Inspirato.

Payam Zamani: We started in Q1s with foundational tech investments and before the end of the year, we'll begin to roll out what will ultimately become a world-class platform. One that allows us to reach target and convert high value travelers at scale. We'll begin to roll out what will ultimately become a world-class platform.

Speaker Change: This is where my background and passion comes into play. Over the course of my career, I have built multiple marketplaces that connect people to trust, value and technology, all at the intersection of brand building, digital performance, marketing and platform design.

Speaker Change: I've seen firsthand how powerful a well-crafted digital engine can be when it connects supply and demand at scale.

and this feel they compelling brand.

Speaker Change: By combining the strength of our luxury brand with a data driven digital platform, we're not just going to market more efficiently, we're going to expand our total addressable market, reaching qualified audiences that previously had an account at Inspirato.

Speaker Change: This isn't just a growth tactic. It's a top-line energizer and a profitability driver that positions also scale intelligently and sustainably for years to come. In closing, Q1 marks the beginning of the next chapter for Inspirato.

Speaker Change: We're not just improving, we're transforming. The discipline is in place. Our vision is clear and the energy across the team is evident. We're building a platform that is efficient at this core, aspirational in this brand, elevated in service and engineered to scale through digital reach and innovation. [inaudible]

Speaker Change: I want to thank our team for their relentless focus and our members for their trust and loyalty. I believe we're at the start of something extraordinary and I can't wait to share more progress with you in the quarters ahead.

Speaker Change: With that, I'll turn it over to Michael to discuss our financial performance and I'll look for your main idea Michael

Michael Arthur: Thank you, Puyam. It's Puyam Outline, cue one of the strong validation of the operation improvements we made and the strategic focus we display over the past several quarters.

Michael Arthur: We delivered record quarterly adjusted EBITDA of 5.6 million, a significant milestone that reflects our commitment to driving operational efficiency and cost us ones across the business.

Michael Arthur: This performance is particularly encouraging given the expected near-term self-earned revenue and demonstrates the strength of the changes we've made to building more resilient, scalable model. EBITDA improvement was driven by continued optimization of cost of revenue and operating expenses.

Michael Arthur: Foster Revenue Declined by 8 million year of year, larger due to our ongoing portfolio optimization efforts and reduction in control of accommodations.

Michael Arthur: Operating expenses were also significantly lower down approximately 8 million benefiting from reduced overhead and continued focus on the streamlining operations across

Michael Arthur: Torre Revenue for the Corps was approximately 66 million down 18% year-to-year year-to-year.

Michael Arthur: Subscription revenue was 21 million down 26% primarily due to the expected and planned decline of past subscriptions.

Michael Arthur: At the end of Q1, we had over 11,000 members of approximately 10,200 active club members and 1,300 active pass members consistent with the strategic shift we outlined last year.

Michael Arthur: While past remains an important part of our offering, we intentionally shifted our emphasis towards club growth and overall profitability.

Michael Arthur: With past now representing approximately 10-15% of our total membership days, we believe we've reached a healthier long-term mix. We do expect revenue had wins to persist throughout the remainder of the year as we continue to compare results to prior year periods of higher past volume.

Michael Arthur: That said, we're excited about the future of past and the coming months will be announcing the enhancement to the product that we believe will make it more compelling for our members and better aligned with our long-term financial objectives.

Michael Arthur: Robert Avenue came in at 42 million, down 16%, reflecting a lower-member count year-to-year, as well as a 2 million timing impacts related to curate experiences, which are occurring in Q2 this year compared to Q1 in the prior year.

Michael Arthur: In our controlled residence accommodations, we maintained a strong IRC level 74% while increasing 80% by 8% in the quarter to over $2,100, supporting the gross margin of profitability goals we set for the year.

Michael Arthur: Q-1 Free Castle is negative 8 million, including approximately 2.6 million of one-time cash outflow as related to under-performance lease terminations.

Michael Arthur: The school of these non-recurring items, underline pre-catchable earn was approximately 4.5 million.

Michael Arthur: Importantly, Q1 was not an isolated result. Over the last two quarters, we have generated nearly 8 million of adjusted EBITDA. Reflecting sustained improvement in real momentum as we continue to strengthen the foundation of the business.

Michael Arthur: Additionally, adjusted pre-casual, excluding the one-time least related items told them more than 8 million over the same period.

Michael Arthur: As we emphasize, our near-term focus remains on driving, operating, leverage, improving gross margin, and reducing variability in our cost space, and these efforts should put the results.

Michael Arthur: Moving to our outlook, we are reiterating our full year 2025 guidance with true flights continue progress from making across the business.

Michael Arthur: We expect adjusted EBITDA between break even in 5 million, marking a significant improvement from 2024, along with four year revenue between 235 and 255 million.

Michael Arthur: We also expect operating expenses of between 80 million to 90 million and reflecting a 15% year of reduction as we continue to streamline the business and focus on efficiency.

Michael Arthur: Overall, the strategic decisions made over the past year are clearly translating just stronger financial results. We're offering a greater discipline across the organization, folks seeing our strategy and continuously improving how we serve our members.

Michael Arthur: Constraints of Fuel Creativity, and we're executing with greater efficiency and impact. Looking ahead, our price for 2025 are clear, continue balancing investment for future profitable growth with operational efficiencies, elevating and sprout a brand and enhancing the experience for our members.

Michael Arthur: We are encouraged by the momentum we have built and confident in the trajectory we are setting for sustainable, profitable growth in the years ahead, and with that I'll turn it back to the operating for Q&A.

Speaker Change: Certainly, thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session.

Speaker Change: To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad.

Speaker Change: If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys.

Speaker Change: If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two.

Speaker Change: At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster.

David Knoblauch, David Kallery, Inspirato

Speaker Change: The first question comes from Mike Grondahl with Northland Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker Change: Hey, this is Logan from Mike. Thanks for taking our question. First, can you guys give us an update of what's been down the marching side to drive and retain members? Thank you.

Payam Zamani: Hi, March. This is Pyam and I'll take this and Michael, please feel free to add. So, thank you.

the way that we go about.

Selling and adding to our member base.

Payam Zamani: is towards self-force and we have a self-force that we've been growing over the

Payam Zamani: since the beginning of the year, and the Salesforce basically reaches out to a target audience.

Payam Zamani: that we have built and curated over many years. So they rely less on, in a sense, direct marketing and rather on direct connections with people or within that database.

Payam Zamani: and having said that, as I have mentioned, that we are building a robust technology platform that we think that once is operational, it will scale our access.

Payam Zamani: to luxury travelers out there. And as that happens, we do think that there will be a lot more incoming interest from those who would be interested in our offering.

Speaker Change: Got it, thank you. So right now, active club memberships are down to 10.2000 from 10.9000 year-to-year. When and where do you see club memberships bottoming up? Thank you.

Michael, do you want to take that?

Michael Arthur: Yeah, thanks for the question. You know, look Q1, I think we as we've I think mentioned back in the prior earnings call, we suspect that

Michael Arthur: We'll continue to experience headwinds on Member Count through the first half of this year and expect a stabilization second half and going into 2026.

Michael Arthur: Q1 of 2025 was a deceleration relative to all of last year, so we are seeing continued improvement in our member count.

Michael Arthur: from a core of a core of perspective in terms of growth or decrease, as I mentioned, I think as we approach in the second half of 25 and going into 26, we expect a more stabilized.

Michael Arthur: member base that will certainly be growing also. And as we mentioned, like some of this is controlled and we're being more measured about marketing spend and acquisition growth and it's not just about

Michael Arthur: Throwing members an absolute, but acquiring and engaging with the right members once aligned with the brands and engage with us in a healthy, healthy manner.

Speaker Change: Perfect. Then one more. In terms of cutting expenses, what any is Inspirato in? Is there much enough left to do there? Just any color there to be great.

Yeah, Michael, please repeat that question.

Speaker Change: In terms of cutting expenses, what anyness ends for Adeline is there much left to do there with expenses?

Got it.

Speaker Change: You know, I use a bad example usually when I when I refer to this but I say that

you know, when I arrived at Inspirato,

Speaker Change: Cutting expenses was basically easy because it was a plenty instrument. There were significant areas that we could do taking immediate measures and reduce expenses.

Speaker Change: But now it is a lot more about that visceral fat that we're dealing with. We are dealing with...

Speaker Change: I'm tuning and at the same time in many cases, improving the quality of the service as we're doing that.

Speaker Change: So, if you think about every touch point that we have.

every property that we have.

Speaker Change: whether it is the property that we lease and it is as a result addressed.

Speaker Change: was the property of the other relationship with, and we do ref-share . . . . . . .

Speaker Change: In all of those cases there's a cost element and there's a margin element.

Speaker Change: and both of those elements, which if you look at a cost element, there are many cost elements, like if it's an at risk property, you've got landscaping, you've got pool cleaning, you've got

Speaker Change: You know, housekeeping. You got laundry. Every one of those items are an opportunity for operational efficiency.

Speaker Change: that we're seeking and we're after, but then on the revenue side of it.

Speaker Change: the margins that we have that are experienced as a result of the in place relationships and contracts that they can also be negotiated to improve so as a result that that gap in between that represents our margin continues to widen. Thank you.

Speaker Change: So, we are very focused on that. We actually recently just brought on board someone as our chief transformation officer who will be very focused on ensuring that we are becoming a highly efficient. In fact, I would like to see that

Speaker Change: You know, by the time you get together at the end of January , I would like to declare victory that...

Speaker Change: that operational efficiency is a core competency, is a differentiator in this company. I know we can get there, we've made massive progress, but there are really significant opportunities ahead of us as we continue this work.

I hope that answers your question, Mike.

Mike Grundahl: Yeah, that's a lot. One last one from us. What are some of your goals slash major milestones that you're targeting for 2025?

Speaker Change: A great question. Of course, as someone who was right here less than a year ago, the thing I'm very focused on is to make sure that as a company, we achieve sustained profitability. That is really key. So, as a company, I want to make sure that we're in charge of our own destiny for a long term.

Speaker Change: The second thing is, as I mentioned, I want to see operational and efficiency as a core competency and as a differentiator in this company.

Speaker Change: But then I would say that when I think about the long-term DNA of this company and the growth potential of this company, I think it is strategically imperative for us.

basically a digital marketing platform that transforms this company.

Speaker Change: to a truly prop tech company with basically 21st century levels of growth.

Speaker Change: Dad, I think that a company that solely relies on members as a way of growing potentially will not have access to. So I'm really excited about that, and that's something that we're working on, and I hope we'll get to launch at least the initial phase of it before the end of the year.

Got it. Thank you guys, congrats on the quarter.

Thank you, Mike, really appreciate it.

Thank you.

At this time, this concludes our question and answer session.

Payam Zamani: I'd now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Zimane for his closing remarks.

Payam Zamani: All right. Well, thank you so much. I really appreciate everyone who has joined us today, and really, I would like to thank all of our employees. They are...

Payam Zamani: They're really the foundation of this business and they're the ones who have allowed us to transform this business. There's a lot more work ahead of us, but they've done an amazing job giving us where we are now. And of course, I'd like to thank our partners and our shareholders, our members for all their support.

Payam Zamani: Thank you so much and looking forward to continuing this conversation as we close Q2.

The conference has now concluded.

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