Q2 2025 McCormick & Co Inc Earnings Call

June 26, 2025

Website, IR dump Mccormick Dot Com with me. This morning are Brendan Foley, Chairman, President and CEO, and Marcos Gabriel Executive Vice President and CFO.

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Brendan Foley: In global consumer, organic sales growth was volume-led across all three regions. Demonstrating continued momentum across key markets. This sustained volume growth is supported by investments across our core categories, including innovative brand marketing, accelerated innovation aligned with consumer trends, expanded distribution, and robust category management initiatives. In the Americas, we drove volume growth and share gains across core categories. In EMEA, our results reflect select pricing actions to cover rising commodity costs and continued solid volume momentum. In Asia Pacific, our business in China continues to gradually recover in line with our expectations.

Brendan Foley: With me. This morning are Brendan Foley, Chairman, President and CEO, and Marc Gabriel Executive Vice President and CFO.

Brendan: I'll turn the discussion over to Brendan.

Brendan: Good morning, everyone and thank you for joining US we are pleased with our second quarter performance and the progress we've made year to date to continue to advance our leadership and differentiation by.

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Brendan: By focusing on the levers within our control we are delivering profitable volume led growth by investing in our brands expanded distribution driving innovation and increasing operational efficiencies.

Brendan Foley: Future events or other factors. Please refer to our forward looking statement on slide two for more information I will now turn the discussion over to Brendan.

Brendan: Mccormick remains a growth oriented company with robust plans that leverage the demand for flavor and the strength of our brands as consumer preferences evolve we continue to execute on our proven strategies and alignment with consumer trends and with speed and agility to capture the demand for flavor and value across all occasions.

Brendan Foley: Let me now share our current view on the state of the consumer and provide our perspective on where tariffs currently stand. Although the environment remains challenged, consumers continue to show resilience across our key markets. They are adapting to economic pressures by adjusting how they shop, making more frequent trips with fewer units per basket, choosing larger pack sizes to stretch their budgets, and increasingly using leftovers. Importantly, they continue to spend and not compromise on flavor.

Brendan Foley: Good morning, everyone and thank you for joining US we are pleased with our second quarter performance and the progress we've made year to date to continue to advance our leadership and differentiation.

Brendan Foley: By focusing on the levers within our control we are delivering profitable volume led growth by investing in our brands expanding distribution and driving innovation and increasing operational efficiencies.

Brendan: And channels our results continue to demonstrate the success of our prioritized investments in the areas that we believe will continue to drive the most value and sustainable momentum for the remainder of 2025 and beyond.

Brendan Foley: Mccormick remains a growth oriented company with robust plans that leverage the demand for flavor and the strength of our brands as consumer preferences evolve we continue to execute on our proven strategies and alignment with consumer trends and with speed and agility to capture the demand for flavor and value across all occasions.

Brendan Foley: What's most notable is the continued conversions of two enduring Value Seeking Behavior and a Heightened Focus on Health and Wellness. Consumers are cooking at home more. 86% of meal occasions are sourced at home, which remains above pre-pandemic levels. This shift supports demand for flavorful, fresh, and healthy meals that offer both value and health benefits.

Brendan: This morning, I will begin my remarks, with an overview of our second quarter results focusing mostly on topline drivers.

Brendan: Next I will review, how our Mccormick is positioned relative to an evolving consumer landscape, including our view on tariffs.

Brendan Foley: And channels our results continue to demonstrate the success of our prioritized investments in the areas that we believe will continue to drive the most value and sustainable momentum for the remainder of 2025 and beyond.

Brendan: Then I will highlight some areas of success and the areas. We continue to work on as well as our growth plans.

Brendan Foley: This is where McCormick plays a critical role. We're not competing for calories, we're flavoring. Our portfolio helps consumers bring creativity and enjoyment to the meals they're already preparing and aligned with how people are eating today. Whether it's spices and seasonings, sauces or condiments, we enable better, more flavorful meals without adding complexity or cost.

Brendan: Marcos will then go into more depth on the second quarter results as well as review, our 2025 outlook, including a discussion of our tariff exposure and mitigation plans and finally before your questions I will have some closing comments turning now to our results on slide four.

Brendan Foley: This morning, I will begin my remarks, with an overview of our second quarter results focusing mostly on topline drivers next I will review, how Mccormick is positioned relative to an evolving consumer landscape, including our view on tariffs.

Brendan: In the second quarter total organic sales increased by 2%, primarily driven by volume growth in line with our expectations volume growth of more than 3% in the consumer segment was partially offset by declines in flavor solutions as expected. This was primarily driven by overall softness in customer volumes and packaged food and.

Brendan Foley: With our broad global reach, strong local brands, ongoing innovation, and strategic pricing, we're confident that we're well positioned to meet the needs of consumers and continue to deliver value through flavor.

Brendan Foley: And then I will highlight some areas of success in the areas. We continue to work on as well as our growth plans.

Brendan Foley: Marcos will then go into more depth on our second quarter results as well as review, our 2025 outlook, including a discussion of our tariff exposure and mitigation plans and finally before your questions I will have some closing comments.

Brendan: EMEA quick service restaurants, or <unk>, although customer demand in parts of our flavor solutions business remains pressured we are performing better than the trends as we continue to benefit from pockets of growth from emerging brands and health driven categories, which are expected to continue to moderate these declines.

Brendan Foley: Before I discuss highlights for the quarter, I'd like to provide a high level perspective on the current global trade environment and the actions we're taking to manage our business. The global trade environment is increasing the cost of agricultural ingredients we source from outside the United States. which is impacting our cost of sales.

Brendan Foley: Turning now to our results on slide four.

Speaker Change: In the second quarter total organic sales increased by 2%, primarily driven by volume growth in line with our expectations volume growth of more than 3% in the consumer segment was partially offset by declines in flavor solutions as expected. This was primarily driven by overall softness in customer volumes in packaged food.

Brendan Foley: We have numerous levers to manage this impact, which is enabling us to maintain our volume-led top-line growth and operating profit outlook for 2025, inclusive of tariffs. First, it's important to recognize that we have a global manufacturing footprint designed so that products sold within a region are made locally within that region. Therefore, our tariff exposure is primarily through importing agricultural raw materials, many of which can't be grown or are not commercially available in the United States. Our competitors are facing similar challenges.

Brendan: In global consumer organic sales growth was volume led across all three regions demonstrating continued momentum across key markets. This sustained volume growth is supported by investments across our core categories, including innovative brand marketing accelerated innovation aligned with consumer trends.

Brendan Foley: In EMEA quick service restaurants, or <unk>, although customer demand in parts of our flavor solutions business remains pressured we are performing better than the trends as we continue to benefit from pockets of growth from emerging brands and health driven categories, which are expected to continue to moderate these declines.

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Brendan: In the Americas, we drove volume growth and share gains across our core categories in EMEA. Our results reflect select pricing actions to cover rising commodity costs and continued solid volume momentum.

Brendan Foley: In global consumer organic sales growth was volume led across all three regions demonstrating continued momentum across key markets. This sustained volume growth is supported by investments across our core categories, including innovative brand marketing accelerated innovation aligned with consumer trends.

Brendan Foley: Earlier this year, we formed a cross-functional team dedicated to monitoring trade policy developments and implementing mitigating actions that position us well for both the short-term and long-term. As a result, we are executing on plans to offset these costs through sourcing plans supported by advanced analytics, including alternative sourcing locations for certain raw materials. and Cost Savings and Operational Efficiencies across the P&L. Additionally, we are collaborating with our customers to implement surgical and strategic pricing while also maintaining our volume momentum. Overall, our manufacturing location strategy, resilient supply chain, global sourcing capabilities, collaborative efforts across the organization, and the strength of our brands continue to be a competitive advantage, enabling us to mitigate our costs and maintain our business momentum.

Brendan: In Asia Pacific our business in China continues to gradually recover in line with our expectations.

Brendan: We now share our current view on the state of the consumer and provide our perspective on where tariffs currently stand.

Brendan Foley: Expanded distribution and robust category management initiatives and.

Brendan: Although the environment remains challenged consumers continue to show resilience across our key markets. They are adapting to economic pressures by adjusting how they shop.

Brendan Foley: In the Americas, we drove volume growth and share gains across our core categories.

Brendan Foley: EMEA our results reflect select pricing actions to cover rising commodity costs and continued solid volume momentum.

Brendan: More frequent trips with fewer units per basket, choosing larger pack sizes to stretch their budgets and increasingly using leftovers.

Brendan Foley: In Asia Pacific our business in China continues to gradually recover in line with our expectations.

Brendan: Importantly, they continue to spend and not compromise on flavor.

Brendan: What's most notable is the continued convergence of two enduring trends.

Brendan Foley: Now share our current view on the state of the consumer and provide our perspective on where tariffs currently stand.

Brendan: Value seeking behavior and a heightened focus on health and wellness consumers are cooking at home more eight.

Brendan Foley: Let's move to slide five and let me highlight for the quarter some of the key areas of success. Across our global consumer segment, we continue to successfully execute on our plans and have driven share gains across our core categories in key markets for the last three quarters. Globally, McCormick-branded unit consumption continues to outpace edible categories.

Brendan Foley: Although the environment remains challenged consumers continue to show resilience across our key markets. They are adapting to economic pressures by adjusting how they shop.

Brendan: 86% of meal occasions are sourced at home, which remains above pre pandemic levels.

Brendan Foley: <unk> more frequent trips with fewer units per basket, choosing larger pack sizes to stretch their budgets and increasingly using leftovers.

Brendan: This shift supports demand for flavorful fresh and healthy meals that offer both value and health benefits.

Brendan: This is where mccormick plays a critical role.

Brendan Foley: Importantly, they continue to spend and not compromise on flavor.

Brendan Foley: Center Store, and Perimeter Growth in the U.S., as well as fast-moving consumer goods growth in EMEA and Asia Pacific.

Brendan: We're not competing for calories, we're flavoring them.

Brendan Foley: What's most notable is the continued convergence of two enduring trends value seeking behavior and a heightened focus on health and wellness consumers are cooking at home more ADC.

Brendan: Our portfolio helps consumers bring creativity and enjoyment to the meals. They are already preparing and aligned with how people are eating today.

Brendan Foley: Let me provide some color on the categories globally. Starting with spices and seasonings, we drove strong volume growth across all regions, leading to volume share across the Americas and EMEA. In the U.S., volume growth continues to outpace private label for the fourth consecutive quarter. In Canada, we continue to grow overall share. And in Poland, share gains in spices and seasonings are contributing meaningfully to EMEA's gains.

Brendan: Whether it's spices and seasonings sauces, or condiments, we enable better more flavorful meals without adding complexity or cost with our broad global reach strong local brands ongoing innovation and strategic pricing. We're confident that we are well positioned to meet the needs of consumers and continue to.

Brendan Foley: 86% of meal occasions are sourced at home, which remains above pre pandemic levels.

Brendan Foley: This shift supports demand for flavorful fresh and healthy meals that offer both value and health benefits.

Brendan Foley: This is where mccormick plays a critical role.

Brendan Foley: We're not competing for calories, we're flavoring them.

Brendan: Liver value through flavor.

Brendan Foley: Our portfolio helps consumers bring creativity and enjoyment to the meals. They are already preparing and aligned with how people are eating today, whether it's spices and seasonings sauces or condiments, we enable better more flavorful meals without adding complexity or cost.

Brendan Foley: and Recipe Mixes. We continue to drive unit volume and dollar growth in the Americas. In Canada, with the strength of our local brands and continued investments, we drove dollar, unit, and volume share gains.

Brendan: Before I discuss highlights for the quarter I'd like to provide a high level perspective on the current global trade environment and the actions, we're taking to manage our business. The global trade environment is increasing the cost of agricultural ingredients, we source from outside the United States, which is impacting our cost of sales.

Brendan Foley: We have plans in place to continue to drive category growth across all of our regions, most notably in the UK, as we continue to expand distribution. In Mustard, we are pleased to see that our plans are continuing to drive great results. In the second quarter, similar to the first quarter, we drove dollar, unit, and volume share gains in the Americas. In EMEA, we drove unit and dollar share gains in Mustard. In hot sauce, we are achieving strong results. In the U.S., we drove unit and volume share gains reflecting significant progress. Continued distribution gains as well as investments in differentiated brand marketing and innovation continue to fuel our performance.

Brendan Foley: <unk> broad global reach strong local brands ongoing innovation and strategic pricing. We're confident that we are well positioned to meet the needs of consumers and continue to deliver value through flavor.

Brendan: We have numerous levers to manage this impact which is enabling us to maintain our volume led topline growth and operating profit outlook for 2025 inclusive of tariffs.

Brendan: First it's important to recognize that we have a global manufacturing footprint designed so that products sold within our region are made locally within that region.

Brendan Foley: Before I discuss highlights for the quarter I'd like to provide a high level perspective on the current global trade environment and the actions, we're taking to manage our business. The global trade environment is increasing the cost of agricultural ingredients, we source from outside the United States, which is impacting our cost of sales we have numerous levers to manage its impact.

Brendan: Therefore, our tariff exposure is primarily through importing agricultural raw materials, many of which can't be grown or not commercially available in the United States. Our competitors are facing similar challenges.

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Brendan: Earlier this year, we formed a cross functional team dedicated to monitoring trade policy developments and implementing mitigating actions that position us well for both the short term and long term.

Brendan Foley: Outside of the U.S., we are building distribution in new markets within EMEA. We continue to make progress on Total Distribution Points, or TDP. In the Americas, we significantly expanded TDPs across spices and seasonings, recipe mixes, and hot. and Ian Mea, we are gaining distribution in high growth channels like e-commerce. In Asia-Pacific, our business in China is recovering gradually relative to the prior year, as expected. We deliver strong performance. Growth in our categories, including spices and seasoning and condiments, continues to outpace the market.

Brendan Foley: First it's important to recognize that we have a global manufacturing footprint designed so that products sold within our region are made locally within that region.

Brendan: As a result, we are executing on plans to offset these costs through sourcing plan supported by advanced analytics, including alternative sourcing locations for certain raw materials and cost savings and operational efficiencies across the P&L additional.

Brendan Foley: Therefore, our tariff exposure is primarily through importing agricultural raw materials, many of which can't be grown or not commercially available in the United States. Our competitors are facing similar challenges.

Brendan: Additionally, we are collaborating with our customers to implement surgical and strategic pricing, while also maintaining our volume momentum.

Brendan Foley: Earlier this year, we formed a cross functional team dedicated to monitoring trade policy developments and implementing mitigating actions that position us well for both the short term and long term.

Brendan: Overall, our manufacturing location strategy resilient supply chain global sourcing capabilities collaborative efforts across the organization and the strength of our brands continue to be a competitive advantage, enabling us to mitigate our cost and maintain our business momentum.

Brendan Foley: As a result, we are executing on plans to offset these costs through sourcing plan supported by advanced analytics, including alternative sourcing locations for certain raw materials and cost savings and operational efficiencies across the P&L.

Brendan Foley: Moving to flavor solutions, we continue to see strength in our technically insulated high-margin product category, flavor. In Flavors, in the Americas, we remain focused on being the partner of choice across four taste competencies. Savory, Heat, Naturally Sweet, and Citrus Enhanced. As a result of this continued focus, we are winning new customers and gaining share. We outperform the industry across many end categories, including alcoholic beverages as well as salty snacks and bars. We continue to win business across beverage flavors and snack seasonings, and we are working through product reformulations with some of our customers to meet regulatory and consumer needs.

Brendan: Let's move to slide five and let me highlight for the quarter some of the key areas of success.

Brendan Foley: Additionally, we are collaborating with our customers to implement surgical and strategic pricing, while also maintaining our volume momentum.

Brendan: Across our global consumer segment, we continue to successfully execute on our plans and have driven share gains across our core categories and key markets for the last three quarters.

Brendan Foley: Overall, our manufacturing location strategy resilient supply chain global sourcing capabilities collaborative efforts across the organization and the strength of our brands continue to be a competitive advantage, enabling us to mitigate our costs and maintain our business momentum.

Brendan: Globally Mccormick branded unit consumption continues to outpace edible categories Center store and perimeter growth in the U S as well as fast moving consumer goods growth in EMEA and Asia Pacific, Let me provide some color on the categories globally.

Brendan Foley: Let's move to slide five let me highlight for the quarter some of the key areas of success.

Brendan: Starting with spices and seasonings, we drove strong volume growth across all regions, leading the volume share across the Americas and EMEA.

Brendan Foley: QSR performance remains strong in both the Americas and Asia Pacific. In the Americas, performance was driven by innovation, customer growth, and continued share gain.

Brendan Foley: Across our global consumer segment, we continued to successfully execute on our plans and have driven share gains across our core categories and key markets for the last three quarters globally Mccormick branded unit consumption continues to outpace edible categories Center store and perimeter growth in the U S as well.

Brendan: In the U S volume growth continues to outpace private label for the fourth consecutive quarter.

Brendan Foley: In China and Southeast Asia, our customers' new products and promotions continue to drive strong volume growth.

Brendan: In Canada, we continue to grow overall share and in Poland share gains in spices, and seasonings are contributing meaningfully to emea's gains in.

Brendan Foley: Let me now touch on some areas where we are seeing pressure. Any Americas and an EMEA, within flavors, some of our large CPG customers continue to experience softness and volumes within their own business. We continue to work on offsetting these trends through innovation and collaboration with our customers.

Brendan Foley: Well as fast moving consumer goods growth in EMEA and Asia Pacific, Let me provide some color on the categories globally.

Brendan: In recipe mixes we continued to drive unit volume and dollar growth in the Americas, and Canada with the strength of our local brands and continued investments we drove dollar unit and volume share gains we have plans in place to continue to drive category growth across all of our regions, most notably in the U K as we continue to expand distribution.

Brendan Foley: Starting with spices and seasonings, we drove strong volume growth across all regions, leading the volume share across the Americas and EMEA.

Brendan Foley: and by winning you. While our food-away-from-home performance continues to outpace the industry, we are seeing flat performance in branded food service in the Americas. As some of our customers are seeing softness in their volumes due to continued slowdown in foot traffic. QSR traffic remains soft in the EMEA. We have seen this pressure impact our results for several quarters, and it is difficult to predict QSR traffic, particularly as some of our customers were impacted by geopolitical boycotts related to the conflict in the Middle East. We continue to collaborate with customers as they focus on improving their volumes through innovation and value and align with consumer trends.

Brendan Foley: In the U S volume growth continues to outpace private label for the fourth consecutive quarter in Canada, we continue to grow overall share and in Poland share gains in spices, and seasonings are contributing meaningfully to emea's gains in.

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Brendan Foley: In recipe mixes we continued to drive unit volume and dollar growth in the Americas, and Canada with the strength of our local brands and continued investments we drove dollar unit and volume share gains we have plans in place to continue to drive category growth across all of our regions most notably in the UK as we continue to expand distribution.

Brendan: In Hot sauce, we are achieving strong results in the U S. We drove unit and volume share gains reflecting significant progress.

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Brendan Foley: And mustard, we're pleased to see that our plants are continuing to drive great results in the second quarter similar to the first quarter, we drove dollar unit and volume share gains in the Americas and EMEA, we drove unit and dollar share gains and mustard.

Brendan: Outside of the U S. We are building distribution in new markets within EMEA.

Brendan Foley: As outlined on slide 6, our growth plans remain consistent. to drive growth through category management, brand marketing, new products, proprietary technologies, and our differentiated customer engagement. Our growth levers are supported and enhanced through data and analytics as we continue to accelerate our digital transformation.

Brendan: We continue to make progress in total distribution points or tdp's in.

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Brendan Foley: Our base business is strengthening across major markets and core categories. And we have a number of initiatives in flight that will continue to support our differentiated performance for the second half of the year. In the consumer segment, our investments to drive volume growth remain in place, including increased brand marketing, innovation, and revenue management initiatives. They have driven our strong and differentiated performance over the last five quarters. While we are starting to lap this performance, we continue to see strong consumption trends and expect continued volume growth. In the back half of the year, we expect our distribution growth, accelerated innovation and renovation across the portfolio to drive increased purchase interest and velocity and support our strong volume performance.

Brendan: <unk> performance growth in our categories, including spices, and seasoning and condiments continues to outpace the market.

Brendan Foley: Outside of the U S. We're building distribution in new markets within EMEA.

Brendan Foley: We continue to make progress on total distribution points or tdp's in.

Brendan: Moving to flavor solutions, we continued to see strength in our technically insulated high margin product category flavors.

Brendan Foley: In the Americas, we significantly expanded tdp's across spices, and seasonings recipe mixes and hot sauce in EMEA, we are gaining distribution in high growth channels like E Commerce in Asia Pacific Our business in China is recovering gradually relative to the prior year as expected we delivered.

Brendan: In flavors in the Americas, we remain focused on being the partner of choice across four taste competencies savory key naturally suite and citrus in fruit as a result of this continued focus we are winning new customers and gaining share.

Brendan Foley: <unk> performance growth in our categories, including spices, and seasoning and condiments continues to outpace the market.

Brendan: We outperformed the industry across many end categories, including alcoholic beverages, as well as salty snacks and bars.

Brendan Foley: Moving to flavor solutions, we continued to see strength in our technically insulated high margin product category flavors.

Brendan: We continue to win business across beverage flavors in snack seasonings and we are working through product re formulations with some of our customers to meet regulatory and consumer needs.

Brendan Foley: Let me provide a couple of examples. This quarter, we started to roll out our preferred consumer packaging across our grilling portfolio in time for the grilling season. We are energized for the grilling season and expect our newly launched Flavor is Calling marketing campaign to drive incremental consumer demand.

Brendan Foley: In flavors in the Americas, we remain focused on being the partner of choice across four tastes competencies savory key naturally suite and citrus in fruit as a result of this continued focus we are winning new customers and gaining share we outperformed the industry across many end categories include.

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Brendan: In the Americas performance was driven by innovation customer growth and continued share gains.

Brendan Foley: Later this fiscal year, in alignment with consumer preferences, we are relaunching the Gourmet Line with countertop-worthy new packages. including a vibrant gold cap that seals in freshness, provides a modern look, and highlights that we only use the best raw material.

Brendan: And China, and southeast Asia, our customers new products and promotions continue to drive strong volume growth.

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Brendan Foley: We continue to win business across beverage flavors in snack seasonings and we are working through product re formulations with some of our customers to meet regulatory and consumer needs.

Brendan: Let me now touch on some areas, where we are seeing pressure.

Brendan: In the Americas and in EMEA within flavors some of our large CPG customers continue to experience softness in volumes within their own businesses. We continue to work on offsetting these trends through innovation and collaboration with our customers.

Brendan Foley: In terms of new products, we are expanding our Cholula line into Chromosis, Chamoy, and Cooking Socks. We are launching new limited-time offer finishing salts this summer and new finishing sugars for the holiday season, which build on last year's successful finishing sugars offer.

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Brendan Foley: In the Americas performance was driven by innovation customer growth and continued share gains.

Brendan: And by winning new customers.

Brendan: While our food away from home performance continues to outpace the industry. We are seeing flat performance in branded foodservice and the Americas as some of our customers are seeing softness in their volumes due to continued slowdown in foot traffic.

Brendan Foley: And China, and southeast Asia, our customers new products and promotions continue to drive strong volume growth.

Brendan Foley: In EMEA, we are expanding across multiple markets with our Air Fryer seasonings, which continue to be successful in the UK by addressing consumers' increased appetite for Air Fryer-focused seasonings. In addition, in EMEA, we are launching our new All-Rounders season. This innovation addresses the desire from younger consumers for enhanced flavor without being specific to one type of meal.

Brendan Foley: Let me now touch on some areas, where we are seeing pressure.

Brendan Foley: In the Americas and in EMEA within flavors some of our large CPG customers continue to experience softness in volumes within their own businesses. We continue to work on offsetting these trends through innovation and collaboration with our customers.

Brendan: <unk> traffic remained soft in EMEA, we have seen this pressure impact our results for several quarters and it is difficult to predict costar traffic, particularly as some of our customers were impacted by geopolitical boycotts related to the conflict in the middle East.

Brendan Foley: And by winning new customers.

Brendan Foley: While our food away from home performance continues to outpace the industry. We are seeing flat performance in branded foodservice and the Americas as some of our customers are seeing softness in their volumes due to continued slowdown in foot traffic.

Brendan: We continue to collaborate with customers as they focus on improving their volumes through innovation and value and align with consumer trends.

Brendan Foley: Moving now to our flavor solutions. Starting with Branded Food Service, where we leverage the equity of our iconic brands that consumers love in the away-from-home channel. We continue to fuel growth with operator-relevant and on-trend innovation. For example, we are beginning to see on menus the 2025 Flavor of the Year, Aji Amarillo, seasoning. In addition, we continue to focus on reaching consumers and operators through increased branded menu placements and with our new online shop called McCormick for Chefs, which launched early this quarter.

Brendan: As outlined on slide six our growth plans remain consistent to drive growth through category management brand marketing new products proprietary technologies and our differentiated customer engagement.

Brendan Foley: <unk> traffic remained soft in EMEA, we have seen this pressure impact our results for several quarters and it is difficult to predict costar traffic, particularly as some of our customers were impacted by geopolitical boycotts related to the conflict in the middle East.

Brendan: Our growth levers are supported and enhanced through data and analytics as we continue to accelerate our digital transformation.

Brendan: Our base business is strengthening across major markets in core categories, and we have a number of initiatives in flight that will continue to support our differentiated performance for the second half of the year.

Brendan Foley: We continue to collaborate with customers as they focus on improving their volumes through innovation and value and align with consumer trends.

Brendan Foley: Shifting to flavors, we are leveraging our culinary heritage and deep expertise in natural flavors and ingredients to support innovation with existing customers to ensure their products meet regulatory changes and preferences of health conscious consumers. And we are winning new high growth customers, which will help offset the softness we are seeing from center store CPG customers. We are collaborating with large and emerging brands to flavor energy, hydration, protein-based beverages, and zero-sugar drinks. In addition, we are leveraging our expertise in functional ingredients and our technologies to help customers mask off-notes or enhance flavors as they add protein across categories.

Brendan Foley: As outlined on slide six our growth plans remain consistent to drive growth through category management brand marketing new products proprietary technologies and our differentiated customer engagement.

Brendan: In the consumer segment, our investments to drive volume growth remain in place, including increased brand marketing innovation and revenue management initiatives. They have driven our strong and differentiated performance over the last five quarters.

Brendan Foley: Our growth levers are supported and enhanced through data and analytics as we continue to accelerate our digital transformation our base business is strengthening across major markets in core categories.

Brendan: While we are starting to lap. This performance, we continue to see strong consumption trends and expect continued volume growth in.

Brendan: In the back half of the year, we expect our distribution growth accelerated innovation and renovation across the portfolio to drive increased purchase interest in velocity and support our strong volume performance.

Brendan Foley: And we have a number of initiatives in flight that will continue to support our differentiated performance for the second half of the year.

Brendan Foley: In the consumer segment, our investments to drive volume growth remain in place, including increased brand marketing innovation and revenue management initiatives.

Brendan: Let me provide a couple of examples this.

Brendan: This quarter, we started to rollout our preferred consumer packaging across our grilling portfolio in time for the grilling season, we are energized for the grilling season, and expect our newly launched flavor is calling marketing campaign to drive incremental consumer demand.

Brendan Foley: like protein-based. Our win rate with health and wellness related briefs is strong across our regions and we continue to dedicate resources to where we have the right to win.

Brendan Foley: We have driven our strong and differentiated performance over the last five quarters.

Brendan Foley: While we are starting to lap. This performance, we continue to see strong consumption trends and expect continued volume growth in.

Brendan Foley: To wrap up our growth plans, and specifically our view on the second half, we remain confident in the long-term health of our business, our fundamentals, and in delivering on our plans to continue to drive industry-leading, differentiated performance.

Brendan Foley: In the back half of the year, we expect our distribution growth accelerated innovation and renovation across the portfolio to drive increased purchase interest in velocity and support our strong volume performance.

Brendan: Later, this fiscal year and alignment with consumer preferences, we are re launching the gourmet line with countertop worthy new packaging, including a vibrant gold cap that seals and freshness provides a modern look and highlights that we only use the best raw materials.

Marcos Gabriel: Now, over to Mark. Thank you, Brendan. And good morning, everyone.

Brendan Foley: Let me provide a couple of examples.

Brendan Foley: This quarter, we started to rollout our preferred consumer packaging across our drilling portfolio in time for the grilling season were energized for the grilling season, and expect our newly launched flavor is calling marketing campaign to drive incremental consumer demand.

Marcos Gabriel: Let's start on slide eight. Total organic sales grew 2% for the quarter, driven by volume and mix. This reflects total volume lead growth for the last four quarters and underscores our differentiation. Moving to our consumer segment on slide 9, organic sales increased 3% driven by volume and mix. Consumer organic sales in the Americas grew 3%, with 4% volume growth, partially offset by a 1% decrease in price, related to targeted incremental promotion. The volume of growth was strong across our core categories and was driven by our investments in brand marketing, innovation, and category management. In EMEA, we grew consumer organic sales 3%, driven by a 2% increase in volume and a 1% increase in price related to targeted actions taken as a result of increased commodity costs.

Brendan: In terms of new products, we are expanding our cholewa line into promotions to Hawaii and cooking sauces.

Brendan: We are launching new limited time offer finishing salts this summer and new finishing sugars for the holiday season, which build on last year's successful, finishing sugars offer.

Brendan Foley: Later, this fiscal year and alignment with consumer preferences, we are relaunching, the GOR mainline with countertop worthy new packaging, including a vibrant gold cap that seals and freshness provides a modern look and highlights that we only use the best raw materials.

Brendan: In EMEA, we are expanding across multiple markets with our air Fryer seasonings, which continue to be successful in the UK by addressing consumers increased appetite for air Fryer focus seasonings.

Brendan Foley: In terms of new products, we are expanding our <unk> line into promotions to Hawaii and cooking sauces.

Brendan: In addition in EMEA, we are launching our new all rounder seasonings. This innovation addresses the desire from younger consumers for enhanced flavor without being specific to one type of meal.

Brendan Foley: We are launching new limited time offer finishing salts this summer and new finishing sugars for the holiday season, which build on last year's successful, finishing sugars offer.

Brendan: Moving now to our flavor solutions segment, starting with branded foodservice, where we leverage the equity of our iconic brands that consumers love and the away from home channel.

Brendan Foley: In EMEA, we are expanding across multiple markets with our air Fryer seasonings, which continue to be successful in the U K by addressing consumers increased appetite for air Fryer focus seasonings.

Marcos Gabriel: We're pleased with the strong sustained volume growth in EMEA. Consumer organic sales in the Asia-Pacific region increased by 4%, driven by volume. This growth reflects the gradual recovery we expected in China.

Brendan: We continue to fuel growth with operator relevant and on trend innovation.

Brendan: For example, we are beginning to see on menus that 2025 flavor of the year <unk> Seasoning. In addition, we continue to focus on reaching consumers and operators through increased branded menu placements and with our new online shop called Mccormick for chefs, which launched early this.

Brendan Foley: In addition in EMEA, we are launching our new all rounder seasonings. This innovation addresses the desire from younger consumers for enhanced flavor without being specific to one type of meal.

Marcos Gabriel: We're pleased with the performance and expect these trains to continue in the second half of 2025.

Marcos Gabriel: Turn into our flavor solution segment on slide 10. Second quarter organic sales were flat, with a 1% contribution from price, offset by 1% decline in volume and nickel. In the Americas, flavor solutions organic sales increased 1% reflecting a 2% price contribution partially offset by a 1% decline in volume.

Brendan Foley: Moving now to our flavor solutions segment, starting with branded foodservice, where we leverage the equity of our iconic brands that consumers love and the away from home channel.

Brendan: Quarter.

Brendan: Shifting to flavors, we are leveraging our culinary heritage and deep expertise in natural flavors and ingredients to support innovation with existing customers to ensure their products meet regulatory changes and preferences of health conscious consumers.

Brendan Foley: We continue to fuel growth with operator relevant and on trend innovation. For example, we are beginning to see on menus. The 2025 flavor of the year here Mario Seasoning. In addition, we continue to focus on reaching consumers and operators through increased branded menu placements and with our.

Marcos Gabriel: Our results reflect a strong performance with faster-growing flavor customers and continued QSR growth, offset by softness in CPG customers' volumes. The price contribution is primarily related to currency in Latin America.

Brendan: And we are winning new high growth customers, which will help offset the softness we are seeing from center store CPG customers.

Brendan: We are collaborating with large and emerging brands to flavor energy hydration protein based beverages and zero sugar drinks. In addition, we are leveraging our expertise in functional ingredients and our technologies to help customers mask off notes or enhanced flavors as they add protein <unk>.

Brendan Foley: New online shop called Mccormick for chefs, which launched early this quarter ship.

Marcos Gabriel: In EMEA, organic sales decreased by 7%, including a 5% impact of lower volume and a 2% decline from price. Reflecting the impact of soft CPG and QSAR customers volumes which were impacted by geopolitical boycotts related to the Middle East conflict.

Brendan: Cross categories like protein based snacks.

Brendan Foley: And we are winning new high growth customers, which will help offset the softness we are seeing from center store CPG customers.

Brendan: Our win rate with health and wellness related <unk> is strong across our regions and we continue to dedicate resources to where we have the right to win through.

Marcos Gabriel: In the Asia-Pacific region, flavor solutions organic sales increased 3% with volume growth of 5% driven by QSR customer promotions and limited time offers, partially offset by price of 2%.

Brendan Foley: We are collaborating with large and emerging brands to flavor energy hydration protein based beverages and zero sugar drinks. In addition, we are leveraging our expertise in functional ingredients and our technologies to help customers mask off notes or enhanced flavors as they add protein.

Brendan: To wrap up our growth plans and specifically our view on the second half we remain confident in the long term health of our business, our fundamentals and delivering on our plans to continue to drive industry, leading differentiated performance.

Marcos Gabriel: Moving to slide 11, gross profit margin was flat in the second quarter versus the year ago period, driven by costs to support increased capacity for future growth and higher commodity costs. Partially offset by savings from our Comprehensive Continuous Improvement Program, or CCI. While we would have expected gross margins to improve relative to the prior year, we're seeing increased cost pressure, caused primarily by the global trade uncertainty.

Marcus: Now over to Marcus.

Marcus: Thank you Brendan and good morning, everyone. Let's start on slide eight total organic sales grew 2% for the quarter driven by volume and mix.

Brendan Foley: Across categories like protein based snacks.

Brendan Foley: Our win rate with health and wellness related <unk> is strong across our regions and we continue to dedicate resources to where we have the right to win.

Marcus: This reflects total volume led growth for the last four quarters and underscores our differentiation.

Brendan Foley: To wrap up our growth plans and specifically our view on the second half we remain confident in the long term health of our business, our fundamentals and delivering on our plans to continue to drive industry, leading differentiated performance.

Marcus: Moving to our consumer segment on slide nine organic sales increased 3% driven by volume and mix.

Marcus: Consumer organic sales in the Americas grew 3% with 4% volume growth, partially offset by a 1% decreasing price related to targeted incremental promotions.

Marcos Gabriel: Selling, General, and Administrative Expenses, or SG&A, decreased relative to the second quarter of last year, driven by the shift in timing of our stock-based compensation expense, as well as savings from CCI, including our SG&A streamlining initiative. for the quarter, adjusted operating income increase by 10%. Excluded impact of currency, adjusted operating income increase by 11%. This increase was driven by CCI savings, including our SG&A streamlining initiatives, partially offset by gross margin, and increased investments to drive growth, most notably in digital, as well as our sustained investments in brand marketing.

Marcus: Now over to Marcus.

Marcus: Thank you Brendan and good morning, everyone. Let's start on slide eight total organic sales grew 2% for the quarter driven by volume and mix. This reflects total volume led growth for the last four quarters and underscores our differentiation.

Marcus: The volume growth was strong across our core categories and was driven by our investments in brand marketing innovation and category management.

Marcus: In EMEA, we grew consumer organic sales, 3% driven by a 2% increase in volume and a 1% increase in price related to targeted actions taken as a result of increases in commodity costs.

Brendan Foley: Moving to our consumer segment on slide nine organic sales increased 3% driven by volume and mix.

Brendan Foley: Consumer organic sales in the Americas grew 3% with 4% volume growth, partially offset by a 1% decreasing price related to targeted incremental promotions.

Marcus: We're pleased with the strong sustained volume growth in EMEA.

Marcus: Consumer organic sales in the Asia Pacific region increased by 4% driven by volume.

Brendan Foley: Volume growth was strong across our core categories and was driven by our investments in brand marketing innovation and category management.

Marcus: This growth reflects the gradual recovering we expect that in China.

Marcos Gabriel: Our second quarter adjusted effective tax rate was 24% compared to 14% in the year ago period. Our tax rate in the prior year benefited from a higher level of favorable discrete tax items relative to the current year. Our income from unconsolidated operations in the second quarter increased 17%, primarily due to strong operational performance from our largest joint venture, McCormick & Mexico, partially offset by the strengthening of the U.S. dollar against the Mexican peso.

Marcus: We're pleased with our performance and expect this strength to continue in the second half of 2025.

Brendan Foley: In EMEA, we grew consumer organic sales, 3% driven by a 2% increase in volume and a 1% increase in price related to targeted actions taken as a result of increased commodity costs.

Marcus: Turning to our flavor solutions segment on slide 10.

Marcus: Second quarter organic sales were flat with a 1% contribution from price offset by 1% decline in volume and mix.

Brendan Foley: We're pleased with the strong sustained volume growth in EMEA.

Marcus: In the Americas flavor solutions organic sales increased 1%, reflecting a 2% price contribution partially offset by a 1% declining volume.

Brendan Foley: Consumer organic sales in the Asia Pacific region increased by 4% driven by volume.

Brendan Foley: This growth reflects the gradual recovering we expect that in China.

Marcos Gabriel: Turning to our segment Operational Results on slide 12, adjusted operating income in the consumer segment increased 10% with minimal impact from currency. The increase was primarily driven by improved SG&A expenses.

Brendan Foley: We're pleased with our performance and expect these trends to continue in the second half of 2025.

Marcus: Our results reflect a strong performance with faster growing flavor customers and continued <unk> growth offset by softness in CPG customers volumes.

Brendan Foley: Turning to our flavor solutions segment on slide 10.

Marcus: The price contribution is primarily related to currency Latin America.

Brendan Foley: Second quarter organic sales were flat with a 1% contribution from price offset by 1% decline in volume and mix.

Marcos Gabriel: In Flavor Solutions, Adjusted Operating Income Increased Tempo. or 13% in constant currency, driven by product mix, pricing, and improved SG&A expenses. We continue to make progress in expanding our operating margins in line with our objectives.

Marcus: In EMEA organic sales decreased by 7%, including a 5% impact of lower volume and a 2% decline from price.

Brendan Foley: In the Americas flavor solutions organic sales increased 1%, reflecting a 2% price contribution partially offset by a 1% declining volume.

Marcus: Reflecting the impact of soft CPG, and <unk> customers volumes, which were impacted by geopolitical by costs related to the middle East conflict.

Marcos Gabriel: At the bottom line, as shown on slide 13, second quarter 2025 adjusted earnings per share was $0.69 and comparable with a year ago period. The benefits from operating profit and unconsolidated income growth were offset by lower gross margin and less favorable tax rates relative to the prior year.

Brendan Foley: Our results reflect a strong performance with faster growing favorite customers and continued <unk> growth offset by softness in CPG customers volumes.

Marcus: In the Asia Pacific region flavor solutions organic sales increased 3% with volume growth of 5% driven by Kyocera customer promotions and limited time offers partially offset by price up 2%.

Brendan Foley: The price contribution is primarily related to currency Latin America.

Brendan Foley: In EMEA organic sales decreased by 7%, including a 5% impact of lower volume and a 2% decline from price.

Marcos Gabriel: On slide 14, we'll summarize highlights for cash flow and balance sheet.

Marcus: Moving to slide 11, gross profit margin was flat in the second quarter versus the year ago period, driven by cost to support increased capacity for future growth and higher commodity costs, partially offset by savings from our comprehensive continuous improvement program or CCI.

Brendan Foley: Reflecting the impact of soft CPG, and kyocera customers volumes, which were impacted by geopolitical by costs related to the middle East conflict.

Marcos Gabriel: Our cash flow from operations through the second quarter of 2025 was $161 million, compared to $302 billion in 2024. The decrease was driven by higher cash use due to the timing of working capital. We return $242 million of cash to shareholders through dividends. and used $85 million for capital exchange.

Brendan Foley: In the Asia Pacific region flavor solutions organic sales increased 3% with volume growth of 5% driven by Kyocera customer promotions and limited time offers partially offset by price up 2%.

Marcus: While we would have expected gross margins to improve relative to the prior year, we're seeing increased cost pressure caused primarily by the global trade uncertainty.

Marcus: Selling general and administrative expenses or SG&A decrease relative to the second quarter of last year, driven by the shifting timing of stock based compensation expense as well as savings from CCI in coding our SG&A streamlining initiatives.

Brendan Foley: Moving to slide 11, gross profit margin was flat in the second quarter versus the year ago period, driven by cost to support increased capacity for future growth and higher commodity costs, partially offset by savings from our comprehensive continuous improvement program or CCI.

Marcos Gabriel: Note that the timing of capital expansions fluctuates on a quarterly basis dependent on the phasing of initiatives, including projects to increase capacity and capabilities to meet growing demand, advance our digital transformation, and optimize our cost structure. Our priority remains to have a balanced use of cash. This means funding investments to drive growth, returning a significant portion of cash for shareholders through dividends, and maintaining a strong balance sheet.

Marcus: For the quarter adjusted operating income increased by 10%.

Brendan Foley: While we would have expected gross margins to improve relative to the prior year, we're seeing increased cost pressure caused primarily by the global trade uncertainty.

Marcus: Excluding the impact of currency adjusted operating income increased by 11%.

Marcus: This increase was driven by CCI savings, including our SG&A streamline initiatives, partially offset by gross margin and increased investments to drive growth, most notably in digital as well as our sustained investments in brand marketing.

Brendan Foley: Selling general and administrative expenses or SG&A decrease relative to the second quarter of last year, driven by the shifting timing of stock based compensation expense as well as savings from CCI and coding our SG&A streamlining initiatives.

Marcos Gabriel: We remain committed to strong investment grade rating and expect to continue to deliver strong cash flow in 2025, driven by profit and working capital initiatives.

Marcus: Okay.

Marcos Gabriel: Before turning to our Outlook, let me provide some details on our tariff exposure and mitigation plans on slide 15. First, it is important to reiterate that our views reflect tariffs as they currently stand. It is also worth calling out that we purchased over 17,000 unique materials from over 90 countries, and no single commodity has a disproportional material impact on our cost of goods sold. Importantly, we have also focused over the last number of years on decreasing our reliance on any one geography. Across the U.S., Canada, China, and our largest markets in Europe, more than 85% of what we sell in those countries is made in those countries.

Marcus: Our second quarter adjusted effective tax rate was 24% compared to 14% in the year ago period.

Brendan Foley: For the quarter adjusted operating income increased by 10%.

Marcus: Our tax rate in the prior year benefited from a higher level of favorable discrete tax items relative to the current year.

Brendan Foley: Excluding the impact of currency adjusted operating income increased by 11%.

Brendan Foley: This increase was driven by CCI savings, including our SG&A streamline initiatives, partially offset by gross margin and increased investments to drive growth, most notably in digital as well as our sustained investments in brand marketing.

Marcus: Our income from unconsolidated operations in the second quarter increased 17%, primarily due to strong operational performance from our largest joint venture Mccormick and the Mexico, partially offset by the strengthening of the U S dollar against the Mexican peso.

Brendan Foley: Okay.

Brendan Foley: Our second quarter adjusted effective tax rate was 24% compared to 14% in the year ago period.

Marcus: Turning to our segment operational results on slide 12, adjusted operating income in the consumer segment increased 10% with minimal impact from currency.

Brendan Foley: Our tax rate in the prior year benefited from a higher level of favorable discrete tax items relative to the current year.

Marcus: The increase was primarily driven by improved SG&A expenses.

Marcos Gabriel: Specifically in the U.S., it's more than 90 percent. As you can see on the slide, we expect it to fully offset the impact of current tariff costs for 2025. In addition, our plans will not have a significant impact on our sales volume outlook for the year. Our total gross annualized tariff exposure is approximately $90 million. And in terms of 2025 in-year exposure, it's about $50 million. We are offsetting a significant portion of this impact with sourcing plans supported by advanced analytics and CCI savings. The remainder will be offset through revenue management initiatives. As we said, we're taking a very targeted and surgical approach to pricing and leveraging robust analytics and planning tools to ensure we maintain volume momentum and continue to meet consumers' and customers' needs for both value and flavor.

Brendan Foley: Our income from unconsolidated operations in the second quarter increased 17%, primarily due to strong operational performance from our largest joint venture Mccormick and the Mexico, partially offset by the strengthening of the U S dollar against the Mexican peso.

Marcus: In flavor solutions, adjusted operating income increased 10% or 13% in constant currency driven by product mix pricing and improved SG&A expenses.

Marcus: We continue to make progress in expanding our operating margins in line with our objectives.

Brendan Foley: Turning to our segment operational results on slide 12, adjusted operating income in the consumer segment increased 10% with minimal impact from currency.

Marcus: At the bottom line as shown on slide 13 second quarter 2025 adjusted earnings per share was 69.

Marcus: And comparable with a year ago period.

Brendan Foley: The increase was primarily driven by improved SG&A expenses.

Marcus: The benefits from operating profit and consolidated income growth were offset by lower gross margin and the less favorable tax rate relative to the prior year.

Brendan Foley: In flavor solutions, adjusted operating income increased 10% or 13% in constant currency driven by product mix pricing and improved SG&A expenses.

Marcus: On slide 14, we've summarized highlights for cash flow and balance sheet.

Brendan Foley: We continue to make progress in expanding our operating margins in line with our objectives.

Marcus: Our cash flow from operations through the second quarter of 2025 was $161 million compared.

Brendan Foley: At the bottom line as shown on slide 13 second quarter 2025, adjusted earnings per share was six to nine.

Marcus: Compared to $302 million in 2024.

Marcus: The decrease was driven by higher cash used due to the timing of working capital.

Brendan Foley: And comparable with a year ago period.

Marcos Gabriel: In addition to the direct costs from tariffs, we're seeing elevated pressure on costs of certain commodities due to the global trade environment. We have seen this impact our second quarter, and we expect it to continue for the remainder of the year.

Brendan Foley: The benefit from operating profit and consolidated income growth were offset by lower gross margin and the less favorable tax rate relative to the prior year.

Marcus: We returned $242 million of cash to shareholders through dividends and used $85 million.

Marcus: For capital expenditures.

Brendan Foley: On slide 14, we've summarized highlights for cash flow and balance sheet.

Marcos Gabriel: We plan to mitigate this impact primarily through HNA savings.

Marcus: Note that the timing of capital expansions fluctuates on a quarterly basis dependent on the phasing of initiatives, including projects to increase capacity and capabilities to meet growing demand.

Brendan Foley: Our cash flow from operations through the second quarter of 2025 was $161 million compared.

Marcos Gabriel: Now let's turn to our 2025 financial outlook on slide 16. We are maintaining our net sales, adjusted operating profit, and adjusted earnings per share guidance for the year. Our outlook continues to reflect our prioritizing investments in key categories to strengthen volume trends and drive long-term profitable growth, while appreciating the current level of uncertainty in the consumer and macro environment.

Brendan Foley: Compared to $302 million in 2024.

Marcus: Advance, our digital transformation and optimize our cost structure.

Brendan Foley: The decrease was driven by higher cash used due to the timing of working capital.

Marcus: Our priority remains to have a balanced use of cash.

Brendan Foley: We returned $242 million of cash to shareholders through dividends and used $85 million for capital expenditures.

Marcus: This means funding investments to drive growth returning a significant portion of cash to shareholders through dividend and maintaining a strong balance sheet.

Marcos Gabriel: Overall, in terms of currency, our assumptions remain the same. At the top line, we continue to expect organic net sales growth to range between 1 and 3 percent. and for our growth to be volume-led and primarily driven by our consumer sector. Flavor Solutions volumes are now expected to be flat for the year. In terms of price, we expect a slightly higher contribution, primarily through the flavor solution segment, and some tariff-related pricing will come through in the fourth quarter. For China, our outlook continues to assume a gradual recovery, and we expect China's consumer sales to improve slightly year over year.

Brendan Foley: Note that the timing of capital expansions fluctuates on a quarterly basis dependent on the phasing of initiatives, including projects to increase capacity and capabilities to meet growing demand.

Marcus: We remain committed to a strong investment grade rating and expect to continue to deliver strong cash flow in 2025, driven by profit and working capital initiatives.

Brendan Foley: Our digital transformation and optimize our cost structure.

Marcus: Before turning to our outlook, let me provide some details on our tariff exposure and mitigation plans on slide 16.

Brendan Foley: Our priority remains to have a balanced use of cash.

Marcus: First it is important to reiterate there are views reflect tariffs as they currently stand.

Brendan Foley: This means funding investments to drive growth.

Brendan Foley: Returning a significant portion of cash to shareholders through dividend and maintaining a strong balance sheet.

Marcus: It is also worth calling out that we purchased over 17000 unique materials from over 90 countries and no single commodity has a disproportion of material impact on our cost of goods sold.

Brendan Foley: We remain committed to strong investment grade rating and expect to continue to deliver strong cash flow in 2025, driven by profit and working capital initiatives.

Marcos Gabriel: We saw this come through in the past two quarters and we expect it to continue for the rest of the year.

Marcus: Importantly, we have also focused over the last number of years on decreasing our reliance on any one geography.

Brendan Foley: Before turning to our outlook, let me provide some details on our tariff exposure and mitigation plans on slide 15.

Marcos Gabriel: Our 2025 gross margin is now projected to range between flat to up 50 basis points for the year, compared to prior guidance of 50 to 100 basis points. This reflects elevated costs of certain commodities coming in higher than we had planned, as I mentioned earlier. As we look ahead to the second half, we expect year-over-year gross margin expansion to be weighted towards the fourth quarter, driven by the timing of certain mitigation efforts. On SG&A, we expect CCI savings, inclusive of our streamlined initiatives, to be partially offset by investments in technology, as well as brand marketing to drive volume growth.

Across the U S, Canada, China, and our largest markets in Europe more than 85% of what we sell in those countries is made in those countries.

Brendan Foley: First it is important to reiterate there are views reflect tariffs as they currently stand.

Brendan Foley: It is also worth calling out that we purchased over 17000 unique materials from over 90 countries and no single commodity has a disproportion of material impact on our cost of goods sold.

Marcus: Specifically in the U S. It's more than 90%.

Marcus: As you can see on the slide we expect to fully offset the impact of current tax costs for 2025.

Marcus: In addition, our clients will not have a significant impact on our sales volume outlook for the year.

Brendan Foley: Importantly, we have also focused over the last number of years on decreasing our reliance on any one geography.

Marcus: Our total gross annualized tariff exposure is approximately $90 million.

Brendan Foley: Across the U S, Canada, China, and our largest markets in Europe more than 85% of what we sell in those countries is made in those countries.

Marcus: In terms of 2025 in year exposure, it's about $50 million.

Marcos Gabriel: We continue to invest in brand marketing, and we're driving more efficiencies through the use of technology, as well as our CCI program. As a result, our adjusted operating income growth expectations remain 4 to 6 percent in constant currency. Year-to-date, our adjusted operating income grew 4% on a constant currency basis, in line with our expectations, and implies higher level of growth for the second half compared to the first half.

Marcus: We are offsetting a significant portion of this impact with sourcing plans supported by advanced analytics and CCI savings.

Brendan Foley: Specifically in the U S. It's more than 90%.

Brendan Foley: As you can see on the slide we expect to fully offset the impact of current tax costs for 2025.

Marcus: The remainder will be offset through revenue management initiatives as.

Marcus: As we said, we're taking a very targeted and surgical approach to pricing and leveraging robust analytics and planning tools to ensure we maintain volume momentum and continued to meet consumers and customers needs for both value and flavor.

Brendan Foley: In addition, our plans will not have a significant impact on our sales volume outlook for the year.

Brendan Foley: Our total gross annualized tariff exposure is approximately $90 million.

Brendan Foley: And in terms of 2025 in year exposure, it's about $50 million.

Marcus: In addition to the direct costs from tariffs, we're seeing elevated pressure on cost of certain commodities due to the global trade environment.

Marcos Gabriel: We want to maintain a balanced outlook that gives us the flexibility to continue to invest in the business while expanding market. In terms of tax, we expect our tax rate to be between 22% and 23% for the year, compared to 20.5% in 2024, where we benefited from a number of discrete tax items that are not expected to repeat in 2025. Our tax rate is slightly higher than our prior guide due to changes in the benefit from discrete tax items. We expect our income from unconsolidated operations to decline in the high single-digit range in 2025, reflecting the strengthening of the dollar against the Mexican peso, which is impacting the strong operational results of our largest joint venture, McCormick de Mejia.

Brendan Foley: We are offsetting a significant portion of this impact with sourcing plans supported by advanced analytics and CCI savings.

Marcus: We have seen this impact our second quarter and we expect it to continue for the remainder of the year.

Brendan Foley: The remainder will be offset through revenue management initiatives as.

Marcus: We plan to mitigate this impact primarily through SG&A savings.

Brendan Foley: As we said, we're taking a very targeted and surgical approach to pricing and leveraging robust analytics and planning tools to ensure we maintain volume momentum and continued to meet consumers and customers' needs are both value and flavor.

Marcus: Now, let's turn to our 2025 financial outlook on slide 16.

Marcus: We are maintaining our net sales adjusted operating profit and adjusted earnings per share guidance for the year.

Marcus: Our outlook continues to reflect our prioritizing fasteners in key categories to strengthen volume trends and drive long term profitable growth, while appreciating the current level of uncertainty in the consumer and macro environment.

Brendan Foley: In addition to the direct costs from tariffs, we're seeing elevated pressure on cost of certain commodities due to the global trade environment.

Brendan Foley: We have seen this impact our second quarter and we expect it to continue for the remainder of the year.

Marcus: Overall in terms of currency our assumptions remain the same.

Brendan Foley: We plan to mitigate this impact primarily through SG&A savings.

Marcus: At the topline we continue to expect organic net sales growth to range between one and 3%.

Marcos Gabriel: The business continues to perform well and is contributing to our net income and operating cash flow results.

Brendan Foley: Now, let's turn to our 2025 financial outlook on slide 16.

Brendan Foley: We are maintaining our net sales adjusted operating profit and adjusted earnings per share guidance for the year.

Marcus: And for our growth to be volume led and primarily driven by our consumer segment.

Marcos Gabriel: In summary, our 2025 Adjusted Earnings Per Share projection of $3.03 to $3.08 on a reported dollar basis reflects currency headwinds and the impact of the increased tax rates relative to the prior year. On a constant currency basis, adjusted EPS is still expected to grow between 5% and 7%.

Marcus: Flavor solutions volumes are now expected to be flat for the year.

Brendan Foley: Our outlook continues to reflect our prioritizing fasteners in key categories to strengthen volume trends and drive long term profitable growth, while appreciating the current level of uncertainty in the consumer and macro environment.

Marcus: In terms of price, we expect a slightly higher contribution primarily through the flavor solutions segment, and some tariff related pricing will come through in the fourth quarter.

Brendan Foley: Overall in terms of currency our assumptions remain the same.

Marcus: For China, our outlook continues to assume a gradual recovery and we expect China's consumer stays to improve slightly year over year.

Brendan Foley: At the topline we continue to expect organic net sales growth to range between one and 3%.

Marcos Gabriel: In closing, the strength of our performance underscores that our plans are yielding results and sustaining our differentiation. We're pleased that we're maintaining our volume-led momentum and expanding operating margins in 2025.

Marcus: We saw this come through in the past two quarters and we expect it to continue for the rest of the year.

Brendan Foley: And for our growth to be volume led and primarily driven by our consumer segment.

Marcus: Our 2025 gross margin is now projected to range of between flat to up 50 basis points for the year compared to our prior guidance of 50 to 100 basis points.

Brendan Foley: Flavor solutions volumes are now expected to be flat for the year.

Marcos Gabriel: There's certainly work ahead for 2026 to offset the continual headwinds and sustain our strong business momentum. We believe we have the right plans and capabilities in place and we remain confident in the underlying fundamentals of our business and in delivering on our 2025 financial outlook and long-term objectives.

Brendan Foley: In terms of price, we expect a slightly higher contribution primarily through the flavor solutions segment, and some tariff related pricing will come through in the fourth quarter.

Marcus: This reflects elevated cost of certain commodities coming in higher than we had planned as I mentioned earlier.

Brendan Foley: For China, our outlook continues to assume a gradual recovery and we expect China's consumer stays to improve slightly year over year.

Marcus: As we look ahead to the second half, we expect year over year gross margin expansion to be weighted towards the fourth quarter driven by the timing of certain mitigation efforts.

Brendan Foley: We saw this come through in the past two quarters and we expect it to continue for the rest of the year.

Marcos Gabriel: Before moving to Q&A, I would like to close with our key takeaways on slide 17. We expect to continue to execute on our proven strategies in alignment with consumer trends and with speed and agility. The Long-Term Trends That Fuel Our Attractive Category. Consumer interest in healthy, flavorful cooking, flavor exploration, and trusted brands are enduring trends. We continue to drive differentiated, volume-led, top-line growth and driving share gains across our core categories. Our results demonstrate that we are investing in the areas that drive the most value, and we expect to maintain this momentum. Additionally, we are well-positioned with our robust CCI and cost savings plans to mitigate tariff-related costs in 2025, fuel growth investments, and expand operating margins.

Marcus: On SG&A, we expect CCI savings inclusive of our streamlining initiatives to be partially offset by investments in technology as well as brand marketing to drive volume growth.

Brendan Foley: Our 2025 gross margin is now projected to range of between flat to up 50 basis points for the year compared to our prior guidance of 50 to 100 basis points.

Marcus: We continue to invest in brand marketing and we're driving more efficiencies through the use of technology as well as our CCI program.

Brendan Foley: This reflects elevated cost of certain commodities coming in higher than we had planned as I mentioned earlier.

Brendan Foley: As we look ahead to the second half, we expect year over year gross margin expansion to be weighted towards the fourth quarter driven by the timing of certain mitigation efforts.

Marcus: As a result, our adjusted operating income growth expectations remains 4% to 6% in constant currency.

Marcus: Year to date, our adjusted operating income grew 4% on a constant currency basis in line with our expectations and implies higher level of growth for the second half compared to the first half.

Brendan Foley: Yeah.

Brendan Foley: On SG&A, we expect CCI savings inclusive of our streamlining initiatives to be partially offset by investments in technology as well as brand marketing to drive volume growth.

Marcus: We want to maintain a balanced outlook that gave us the flexibility to continue to invest in the business while expanding margins.

Brendan Foley: We continue to invest in brand marketing and we're driving more efficiencies through the use of technology as well as our CCI program.

Marcos Gabriel: Our performance, historically and over the last few quarters, coupled with our growth plans, give us confidence in achieving our near and long-term objectives.

Marcus: In terms of tax we expect our tax rate to be between 22, and 23% for the year compared to 25% in 2024, while we benefited from a number of discrete tax items that are not expected to repeat in 2025.

Brendan Foley: As a result.

Brendan Foley: And operating income growth expectations remains 4% to 6% in constant currency.

Marcos Gabriel: Ultimately, we believe the execution of our growth plans will be a win for consumers, customers, our categories, and McCormick, which will continue to differentiate and strengthen our leadership.

Brendan Foley: Year to date, our adjusted operating income grew 4% on a constant currency basis in line with our expectations and implies higher level of growth for the second half compared to the first half.

Marcus: Our tax rate is slightly higher than our prior guide due to changes in the benefit from discrete tax items.

Marcos Gabriel: Finally, I want to recognize all McCormick employees for their dedication and contributions and reiterate my confidence that together we will continue to drive differentiated results and shareholder value.

Marcus: We expect our income from unconsolidated operations to declining in the high single digit range in 2025.

Brendan Foley: We want to maintain a balanced outlook that gave us the flexibility to continue to invest in the business while expanding margins.

Marcus: Reflecting the strengthening of the dollar.

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Brendan Foley: In terms of tax we expect our tax rate to be between 22%, 23% for the year compared to 25% in 2024, while we benefited from a number of discrete tax items that are not expected to repeat in 2025.

Against the Mexican peso, which is impacting the strong operational results of our largest joint venture Mccormick de Mexico.

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Marcus: The business continues to perform well and is contributing to our net income and operating cash flow results.

Brendan Foley: Our tax rate is slightly higher than our prior guide due to changes in the benefit from discrete tax items.

Marcus: In summary, our 2025 adjusted earnings per share projection of $3 <unk>.

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Brendan Foley: We expect our income from unconsolidated operations to declining in the high single digit range in 2025, reflecting the strengthening of the dollar against the Mexican peso, which is impacting the strong operational results of our largest joint venture Mccormick de Mexico.

Marcus: The $3 <unk>.

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Marcus: On a reported dollar basis reflect currency headwinds and the impact of the increased tax rate relative to the prior year.

Andrew Lazar: And the first question comes from the line of Andrew Lazar with Barclays. Great, thanks so much.

Marcus: On a constant currency basis, adjusted EPS is still expected to grow between five and 7%.

Brendan Foley: This is Brendan. Recently, you know, heading second quarter. Unquartered EBIT actually came in far stronger. What's either surprised you or.

Marcus: In closing the strength of our performance underscores that our plans are yielding results and sustaining our differentiation. We're pleased that we're maintaining our volume led momentum and expanding operating margins. In 2025. There is certainly work ahead for 2026 to offset the continued headwinds and.

Brendan Foley: The business continues to perform well and is contributing to our net income and operating cash flow results.

Brendan Foley: In summary, our 2025 adjusted earnings per share projection of $3 <unk>.

Brendan Foley: $3 <unk>.

Brendan Foley: On a reported dollar basis reflect currency headwinds and the impact of the increased tax rate relative to the prior year.

Marcus: Our strong business momentum.

Brendan Foley: Well, thank you for the question, Andrew, and good morning. Let me just make a couple opening, you know, open up with a couple thoughts on that and then turn it over to Marcos. You know, we did have a good quarter.

Marcus: We believe we have the right plans and capabilities in place and we remain confident in the underlying fundamentals of our business and in delivering on our 2025 financial outlook and long term objectives.

Brendan Foley: On a constant currency basis, adjusted EPS is still expected to grow between five and 7%.

Brendan Foley: In closing the strength of our performance underscores that our plans are yielding results and sustaining our differentiation. We're pleased that we're maintaining our volume led momentum and expanding operating margins in 2025.

Marcus: Thank you Marcos before moving to Q&A I would like to close with our key takeaways on slide 17, we expect.

Marcus: To continue to execute on our proven strategies and alignment with consumer trends and with speed and agility.

Brendan Foley: Certainly work ahead for 2026 to offset the continued headwinds and sustain our strong business momentum.

Marcus: The long term trends that fuel our attractive categories consumer.

Marcus: Consumer interest in healthy flavorful cooking flavor exploration and trusted brands are enduring trends, we continue to drive differentiated volume led top line growth and driving share gains across our core categories. Our results demonstrate that we are investing in the areas that drive the most value and we expect to maintain.

Brendan Foley: We believe we have the right plans and capabilities in place and we remain confident in the underlying fundamentals of our business and in delivering on our 2025 financial outlook and long term objectives.

Brendan Foley: Thank you Marcos before moving to Q&A I would like to close with our key takeaways on slide 17, we.

Marcus: This momentum.

Brendan Foley: We expect to continue to execute on our proven strategies and alignment with consumer trends and with speed and agility.

Marcus: Additionally, we are well positioned with our robust CCI and cost savings plans to mitigate tariff related costs in 2025 fueled growth investments and expand operating margins.

Brendan Foley: The long term trends that fuel our attractive categories.

Brendan Foley: Consumer interest in healthy flavorful cooking flavor exploration and trusted brands are enduring trends, we continue to drive differentiated volume led topline growth and driving share gains across our core categories. Our results demonstrate that we are investing in the areas that drive the most value and we expect to maintain.

Marcus: Our performance historically and over the last few quarters, coupled with our growth plans give us confidence in achieving our near and long term objectives.

Marcus: Ultimately, we believe the execution of our growth plans will be a win for consumers customers or categories, and Mccormick, which will continue to differentiate and strengthen our leadership.

Brendan Foley: And this momentum. Additionally, we are well positioned with our robust CCI and cost savings plans to mitigate tariff related costs in 2025 fueled growth investments and expand operating margins.

Marcus: Finally, I want to recognize all Mccormick employees for their dedication and contributions and reiterate my confidence that together, we will continue to drive differentiated results and shareholder value now.

Brendan Foley: Our performance historically and over the last few quarters, coupled with our growth plans give us confidence in achieving our near and long term objectives. Ultimately we believe the execution of our growth plans will be a win for consumers customers or categories, and Mccormick, which will continue to differentiate and strengthen our leadership.

Marcus: Now for your questions.

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Brendan Foley: Finally, I want to recognize all Mccormick employees for their dedication and contributions and reiterate my confidence that together, we will continue to drive differentiated results and shareholder value.

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Speaker Change: Great. Thanks, so much I appreciate it.

Speaker Change: I guess, Brendan recently heading into our second quarter results Mccormack had been kind of reminding investors that EBIT growth would likely be more weighted towards the second half, but second quarter EBIT actually came in far stronger than expected across both segments.

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Marcus: What's either surprised you or came in differently in terms of the outcome versus maybe what you had been messaging before the quarter.

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Marcus: I'll take the question Andrew and good morning, Let me just make a couple opening open up with a couple of thoughts on that and then turn it over to Marcos we did have a good quarter.

Speaker Change: Great. Thanks, so much I appreciate it.

Marcus: Think about the things that we thought would happen broadly happen are contained our consumer business continues to perform well driven by volume.

Marcus: Our core categories and we're building share in our flavor solutions I think we're working through the tough conditions that our customer base is facing and I think we can perform better than most so that was relatively pretty close to expectations and I'm really proud of how our team has really worked through a very dynamic period. I mean, it's just certainly a lot of things going on.

Speaker Change: That's either surprised you or came in differently in terms of the outcome versus maybe what you had been messaging before the quarter.

Speaker Change: I'll take the question Andrew and good morning, Let me just make a couple opening open up with a couple of thoughts on that and then turn it over to Marcos we did have a good quarter and.

Marcus: And they've done terrifically, well and probably with consumers that the trends that we've been speaking about about this convergence between the seeking for value and seeking for health and wellness those tend to still benefit our categories in our business.

Speaker Change: And I think about the things that we thought would happen broadly happen.

Andrew Lazar: for that and then maybe just quickly can you talk a little more specifically about the tariff How much is the cost work versus the sort of strategic price? How do you go about where it's more appropriate to be able to take some pricing actions without. You know, obviously the really strong volume momentum that you've been developing.

Speaker Change: Our consumer business continues to perform well driven by volume across our core categories that we're building share in our flavor solutions I think we're working through the tough conditions that our customer base is facing and I think we've performed better than most so that was relatively pretty close to expectations and I'm really proud of how our team is.

Marcus: And that's both from a short terminal long term outlook perspective. So all of this enables us to maintain positive momentum and we saw that play through in the second quarter Mark do you want to make a comment on specifically sure yes sure. So on me.

Marcos Gabriel: Yeah, that's a good question, Andrew. I mean, we have been very mindful in terms of all the levers that we're pulling in terms of mitigation actions to offset tariffs, $50 million in a year. And the team has done a fantastic job pulling a lot of scenarios for us to assess. And at the end, we came with the majority of the mitigation actions are driven by sourcing, as well as CCI. You know, we have a very robust sourcing organization with a lot of experience, but then on top of it, we have a lot of data and analytics that help us, you know, make decisions in terms of buying decisions and procuring and sourcing locations and things like that, as well as CCI.

Speaker Change: It really worked through a very dynamic period I mean, it's just certainly a lot of things going on.

Mark: In addition to the top line performance that we had in this quarter, which was very strong, particularly in the consumer segment volume led top line growth. We also had a very strong operating profit delivery of about 11% on constant currency and that was primarily driven by SG&A. If you look at the P&L and yesterday year on year, we have two elements there.

Speaker Change: And they've done terrifically, well and probably with consumers that the trends that we've been speaking about about this convergence between the seeking for value and seeking for health and wellness.

Speaker Change: Those tend to still benefit our categories in our business and that's both from a short term in the long term outlook perspective. So all of this enables us to maintain positive momentum that we saw that play through in the second quarter Mark do you want to make a comment on specifically on that sure yes sure. So on me in.

Marcus: It is impacting.

Marcus: That strong performance one is half of the variance that we saw year on year is related to the stock based compensation that talked about in Q1, which was a headwind in Q1 and now is it was a tailwind in Q2, that's half of it. The other half is essentially CCI program and our streamline initiatives, particularly within <unk>.

Speaker Change: In addition to the top line performance that we had in this quarter, which was very strong, particularly in the consumer segment volume led top line growth. We also had a very strong operating profit delivery of about 11% on constant currency and that was primarily driven by SG&A. If you look at it in the P&L and yesterday year on year, you have two elements that.

Brendan Foley: So that is the majority of it that we're taking on. And then in terms of pricing, it is the residual, right? The residual is pricing that we're taking, we're being very targeted and surgical in the way that we do that. We have also analytics that help us take pricing where we see the elasticity elements of it. And so therefore, it's a very surgical, you know, approach to it, that we want to continue to balance, as you said, you know, the top line momentum that we have, but also protecting OP.

Marcus: SG&A.

Marcus: Have been working very hard and diligent in terms of streamlining the causes of all lines of the P&L as you'll recall CCI.

Marcus: Such as all lines of the P&L. This quarter, we went a little bit further in terms of streamlining.

Speaker Change: Is impacting.

Speaker Change: That strong performance one is half of the variance that we saw year on year is related to the stock based compensation that talked about in Q1, which was a headwind in Q1 and it was a tailwind in Q2, that's half of it. The other half is essentially CCI program and our streamline initiatives, particularly within <unk>.

Marcus: Streamlining the cost is within SG&A and that is like things like discretionary indirect spans professional fees.

Marcus: Travel and entertainment and things like that also we made some organizational changes.

Brendan Foley: I don't know, Brendan, if you want to add any comments on that. Yeah, I'll just build on what Marco said, Andrew. You know, the price cap investment, price cap management investments that we've talked about previously remain in our base, and we don't expect surgical pricing, you know, that we've talked about to slow down that overall momentum. So as we overlap right now, that price cap management investment, you know, we start to overlap that in the second half, and we still see actually pretty good performance from it, even as we overlap it. So I think that needs to be, you know, put in the context, but, you know, that price cap management efforts aren't necessarily going to be on the same use that where we might apply, you know, some of the surgical pricing.

Marcus: That had an impact in Q2 of those changes will continue for the balance of the year. So that is essentially the biggest element of that that drove the performance in Q1, and Q2 and and but if you think about it on a normalized basis and you should think about half one half two together.

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Speaker Change: <unk> been working very hard and diligent in terms of streamlining the causes of all lines of the P&L as Youll recall CCI.

Speaker Change: Such as all lines of the P&L. This quarter, we went a little bit further in terms of streamlining.

Speaker Change: Streamlining the cost is within SG&A and that is like things like discretionary indirect spend professional fees.

Marcus: Momentum in the year and you think about half one if a normalized half one operating profit grew by 4% constant currency, which implies a higher growth in the second half of the year for us to hit our objectives that we laid out and and then if you think about the second half of the year I will.

Speaker Change: Travel and entertainment and things like that also we made some organizational changes that had an impact in Q2 of those changes will continue for the balance of the year. So that is essentially the biggest element of that that drove the performance in Q1, and Q2 and and but if you think about it on a normalized basis.

Brendan Foley: So, you know, back to the point about data analytics that Marco's mentioned, you know, we are leveraging that all the time, and looking at it, you know, quite, quite in a quite disciplined way. And our revenue management team has really been quite strong on this. We have a deep team doing that work. We do expect some elasticity impact. I mean, that's to be expected, but we still expect to drive solid volume as we go through the back half of the year.

Marcus: And that Youre going to see more of a fourth quarter weighted results.

Marcus: The mitigation.

Marcus: At first they were put in place and actions, we're putting in place will be they are implementing right now, but they're going to be fully implemented by Q4. So you should see a gross margin more towards <unk>.

Speaker Change: And you should think about half one half two together.

Marcus: Q4, as well as operating profit hit in Q4, So that's kind of the overall picture of the quarter and the hats.

Marcus: For perspective.

Peter Galbo: The next questions are from the line of Peter Galbo with Bank of America. Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for the thanks. Morning.

Marcus: Alright, Thanks for that and then maybe just quickly can you talk a little more specifically about the tariff mitigation actions, maybe how much is the cost work versus the.

Marcos Gabriel: Brendan, I was hoping maybe to get a little bit more detail, if you can frame up kind of the gross tariff exposure of the 90 million Unknown Attendee a little bit about just just kind of how you arrived at that number and I believe just to clarify you also made some comments around... Cost of goods being impacted just by global trade environment, which I think is separate from the tariffs. So maybe just to start some additional detail.

Marcus: Sure strategic pricing that Youre planning and I guess, how do you go about determining.

Marcus: Where it's more appropriate to be able to take some pricing actions without <unk>.

Marcus: Competing obviously, the really strong volume momentum that you've been developing over the last couple of quarters. Thank you.

Marcus: Yes, that's a good question Andrew I mean, we have been very mindful in terms of all of the levers that we're pulling in terms of mitigation actions to offset tariffs $50 million in year and the team has done a fantastic job pulling a lot of scenarios for us to SaaS and and at the end we came with the majority of the mitigation actions are driven by sourcing.

Marcos Gabriel: Yeah, I think just on your last point there, you know, we are distinguishing one from the other, to your point, let me ask Marcos to kind of provide a little bit more context. Yeah, framing Peter, the $90 million, I mean, it's essentially, you know, I would start from, you know, our supply chain footprint, you have, you know, we're very well positioned in terms of manufacturing footprint, as well as our sourcing strategies. And as I said, on the call, I mean, we are, you know, producing, you know, most of the things that we sell in the biggest markets.

Marcus: As well as CCI.

Marcus: We have a very robust sourcing organization.

Speaker Change: Competing obviously, the really strong volume momentum that you've been developing over the last couple of quarters. Thank you.

Marcus: With a lot of experience, but that on top of it we have a lot of data and analytics that help us make decisions in terms of our buying decisions in procuring and in sourcing locations and things like that as long as CCI. So that is the majority of it that we're taking on and then in terms of up of pricing. It is <unk>.

Marcos Gabriel: So in the US, for reference, it's about 90% of what we sell in the US is made in the US. So it's essentially, our exposure is really related to raw materials, ingredients that we cannot grow in the US. You know, we have 17,000 ingredients across 90 markets. You know, there's no one single material that represents a significant portion of our cogs. And we continue to minimize the reliance on any one geography. So that work continues to be done by our sourcing organization. So when you get to the raw materials line, which is a sizable portion of our cogs, but not all raw materials are subject to tariffs.

Marcus: <unk> right the residual risk pricing that we're taking we're being very targeted and surgical in the way that we do that we have also analytics that help us take pricing, where we see the elasticity.

Marcus: Elements of it and so therefore, it's very surgical.

Marcus: Our approach to it.

Speaker Change: We want to continue to balance as you said the top line momentum that we have but also protecting LP I don't know Ben if you want to add any comments on that yes, I will just build on what Mark said Andrew.

Speaker Change: The price cap investment price gap management investments that we've talked about previously remain in our base.

Marcos Gabriel: So when you think about the materials that are subject to tariffs, then we use the 30% China, tariffs on China, which is currently in place, 10% on the rest of the world, as well as, you know, USMCA compliance for Canada and Mexico imports that are close to zero. So you get to a blended rate between 30, 10, and zero, you get to a blended rate, which will lead us to about 2% of cogs globally. So that's kind of the framing. It differs by region, some of the regions, particularly in the America has a higher percentage than the 2% cogs.

Speaker Change: And we don't expect surgical pricing that we've talked about to slow down that overall momentum.

Speaker Change: So as we overlap right now that price gap management investment.

Speaker Change: Start to overlap that in the second half and we still see actually pretty good performance from it even as we overlap. It so I think that needs to be put into context, but that price gap management efforts arent necessarily going to be on the same skus that where we might apply some of the surgical pricing. So.

Marcos: Back to the point about data analytics that that Marcos mentioned, we're leveraging that all the time and looking at it quite quite in a quite disciplined way and our revenue management team has really been quite strong on this we have a deep team doing that work, we do expect some elasticity impact.

Marcos Gabriel: But that's kind of the framing. But more importantly, we are, you know, pulling all the levers that we can to mitigate the impact in 2025, the $50 million through the actions that I mentioned before. Got it. No, that's helpful.

Marcos: That's to be expected, but we still expect to drive solid volume as we go through the back half of the year.

Peter Galbo: And Brendan, just going back to your prepared remarks, you know, I think in flavor solutions in the Americas in particular, on slide five, you kind of had a couple of headwinds and a couple of tailwinds in the quarter and maybe more on the go forward.

Speaker Change: Thanks, so much.

Speaker Change: Yeah.

Speaker Change: Okay.

Speaker Change: The next questions are from the line of Peter Galbo with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

Brendan Foley: But maybe you can unpack each of those, you know, four or five that you that you talked about and how we should think about those specifically more in the second half. Thanks very Yeah, Peter, I'd be happy to. You know, from a flavor solutions segment perspective, if I were just to break down, maybe, you know, first talk about our flavor business and, you know, what we're seeing there, and then also then talk about food away from home and what we're seeing there, and then maybe I'll throw in some regional perspective as I, you know, pull it all together for you.

Peter Galbo: Hey, guys. Good morning, Thanks for the thanks morning Judah.

Speaker Change:

Speaker Change: Brendan I was hoping maybe to get a little bit more detail. If you can frame up kind of the gross tariff exposure of the <unk>.

Speaker Change: $90 million, expanding a little bit about just kind of how you arrived at that number.

Speaker Change: And I believe just to clarify you also made some comments around.

Speaker Change:

Speaker Change: Cost of goods being impacted just by global trade environment, which I think is separate from the tariffs. So maybe just to start with some additional detail around those two items. Please.

Brendan Foley: First of all, in flavor, I mean, we're definitely seeing the impact of slower volumes and just volume pressure in the grocery marketplace, particularly with some of our larger CPG customers. And I would say this is happening, you know, broadly at a global level. So it isn't specifically related to one region. But we definitely are, you know, seeing that slow down the center store volume. And that's been widely reported by peers and customers. And it does appear to be incrementally softer than the first quarter, you know, overall. On the other hand, though, we continue to see benefits with what we've framed as high growth innovators.

Speaker Change: Yes, I think just on your last point there we are distinguishing one from the other to your point, let me ask Markus to kind of provide a little bit more context, yes framing Peter the $90 million I mean, it's essentially I would start from in our supply chain footprint you have in our very well positioned in terms of manufacturing footprint tenants as well as our sourcing strategy.

Speaker Change: And as I said on the call I mean, we are producing.

Speaker Change: Most of the things that we sell in the biggest market. So in the U S for references about 90% of what we sell in the U S has made in the U S.

Brendan Foley: Those maybe smaller customers compared to a larger global manufacturer. And, you know, we typically see them operating in some of these health and wellness oriented categories. We see that in, you know, sort of hydration, as an example, or energy beverage. You know, many are trying to add protein, you know, to the products that they have. Or they're, you know, they're going with zero sugar. Or it could even be, you know, frankly, we're seeing even more recently, you know, opportunities in areas like with collagen and sleep supplements and digestive health. All of this needs flavor. And this is where we're also seeing, you know, some higher growth rates.

Speaker Change: It's essentially our exposure is really related to raw materials and ingredients that we cannot grow in the U S.

Speaker Change: We have 17000 ingredients across 90 markets.

Speaker Change: There is no one single material that represents a significant portion of our Cogs and and we continue to minimize the reliant on any one geography. So that work continues to be done by our sourcing organization.

Speaker Change: So when you get to the raw materials line.

Speaker Change: She is a sizable portion of our Cogs, but not all raw materials are subject to tariffs. So when you think about the materials are subject to tariffs then we use the 30% China tariffs on China, which is currently in place 10% on rest of the world as well as <unk> Usmc compliance for Canada, and Mexico import.

Brendan Foley: And so that's, that's tended to offset somewhat a little bit of that, that softness that we're seeing, but not all of it, clearly. But those are areas where we tend to see a little bit more growth right now. And those, those categories, those product lines also need flavor, and we're doing quite well there. And our competitive advantages, you know, seem to work out well, you know, with that customer base too, because we're working with functional ingredients, our technologies, the mask are really strong there. And in terms of enhancing flavors, we're also very, we're very fast and we're very accurate in terms of how we operate that marketplace.

Speaker Change: <unk> that are close to zero, so you'll get to a blended rate of between 30 tenants zero you get to a blended rate, which led us to about 2% of Cogs globally. So that's kind of the framing a difference by region. Some of the regions, particularly in the America has a higher percentage than the 2% comps.

Speaker Change: But that's kind of the framing.

Speaker Change: But more importantly, we are pulling all the levers that we can to mitigate the impact in 2000 $25 million to $50 million through the actions that I mentioned before.

Brendan Foley: And, you know, there's a strong coordination with those higher innovator, you know, customers that we've got.

Brendan Foley: So that's our, you know, kind of our picture, if you will, if you think about, you know, our flavor business overall.

Speaker Change: Got it.

Speaker Change: Helpful and Brendan just going back to your prepared remarks.

Brendan Foley: And when I go next to food away from home, you know, I'll first talk to what is, you know, broadly what we call QSRs, quick serve restaurants. In the Americas, we're seeing some strength there, even if, you know, maybe overall traffic trends are not necessarily as strong. But where we're tending to do well is on their promotional activity and their limited time offers. We're participating a fair amount in that activity, and that tends to drive, you know, sort of accelerated improvement in those customers' performance. But it also includes our brand. And in many cases, that can really drive a lot of excitement, I think, to some of these promotions.

Speaker Change: I think in flavor solutions in the Americas in particular.

Speaker Change: On slide five you kind of had a couple of headwinds in a couple of tailwind in the quarter and maybe more on a go forward, but maybe you can unpack each of those.

Speaker Change: Four 5% that you've talked about and how we should think about those specifically more in the second half thanks very much.

Speaker Change: Yes, Peter I'd be happy to from our flavor solutions segment perspective, if I were just to breakdown maybe.

Speaker Change: First talk about our flavor business.

Speaker Change: What we're seeing there and then also then talk about food away from home and what we're seeing there and <unk> drove it from a regional perspective is right.

Brendan Foley: And so we see some upside there in the Americas, and we're also seeing it in a specific region. In that region, quick-serve restaurants have been actually quite strong for the last several quarters. And so we see continued strength in their performance, and again, it's driven by strong promotional activity and driving traffic. But that's been true for some time, and obviously those markets, and they're broadly performing well.

Speaker Change: Pull it all together for you.

Speaker Change: First of all on flavor group, we're definitely seeing the impact of slower volumes just volume pressure.

Speaker Change: The grocery marketplace, particularly with some of our larger CPG customers.

Speaker Change: And I would say this is happening broadly as at a global level. So it isn't specifically related to one region.

Speaker Change: We definitely are seeing that slowdown the center store volume.

Brendan Foley: If I also think, though, about food away from home, and you look at beyond quick-serve restaurants, areas like fast casual are actually growing in traffic, and they're performing well. In our brands, we're growing tabletop market share, and we're seeing our brands get even more presence in locations like that. And so that tends to drive consumer excitement, particularly when they're thinking about where they can find value. Those are things that really strengthen, I think, the value proposition when you're eating away from home. And so we're seeing strength there, particularly in the Americas region.

Speaker Change: That's been widely reported by <unk> appears.

Speaker Change: Appears in customers and it does appear to be incrementally softer in the first quarter.

Speaker Change: Overall on the other hand, though.

Speaker Change: We continue to see benefits.

Speaker Change: Framed as high growth innovators.

Speaker Change: Maybe smaller customers compared to a larger global manufacturer and we typically see them operating in some of these health and wellness oriented categories. We.

Speaker Change: We see that in sort of high duration as an example or energy beverages.

Brendan Foley: Having said all that, in the EMEA, we're definitely seeing continued softness in quick-serve restaurants. I would say it's a little bit softer than what we expected, but most of that, we think, is driven really by what has been framed as geopolitical boycotts due to the conflict in the Middle East. And so that is an area that I probably don't think we had expected to see as much softness coming from that. But as we look forward to the rest of the year, especially in a market like EMEA, we believe that that will tend to stabilize, because we're also comparing against some pretty low numbers from the prior year.

Speaker Change: Many are trying to add protein.

Speaker Change: To the products that they have or are there theyre going with zero sugar.

Speaker Change: Or could even be frankly, we're seeing even more recently opportunities in areas like with collagen and sleep supplements in digestive health.

Speaker Change: All of this means flavor.

Speaker Change: And this is where we're also seeing some higher growth rates.

Speaker Change: So that's tended to offset somewhat a little bit of that softness that we're seeing but not all of it clearly.

Speaker Change: But those are areas, where we tend to see a little bit more growth right now and those those categories. Those product lines also did flavor, we're doing quite well there and our competitive advantages.

Brendan Foley: So I'll stop there, because it's obviously a lot of individual, diverse segments, and I'll see if that addresses what you're looking to get. Yep. Thanks very much.

Speaker Change: Seem to work out well with that customer base too because we're working with functional ingredients our technologies to mask, our really strong there and in terms of enhancing flavors. We're also very very fast and very accurate in terms of how we operate that marketplace.

Robert Moskow: Our next question is from the line of Robert Moskow with TD Cowen. Please proceed with your question. Hi, thanks for the question.

Marcos Gabriel: A couple, Marcos. When you say that you've found sourcing opportunities, I imagine that means you're finding less expensive options. But I know that you make a point to buy higher quality ingredients than your peers. So how do you go about doing both of those things at the same time?

Speaker Change: Yes, there is a strong coordination with those higher innovator customers that we've got so that's our.

Speaker Change: Kind of our picture if you will if you think about our flavor business overall.

Speaker Change: And when I go next to food away from home.

Speaker Change: First talk to what is broadly what we call <unk> quick serve restaurants in the Americas.

Marcos Gabriel: Is there any risk of sacrificing quality?

Marcos Gabriel: And then secondly, you also mentioned elevated pressure on certain commodities due to the global trade environment. Can you be more specific on what that is and why do you choose to mitigate it through SG&A?

Speaker Change: We're seeing some strength there even if maybe overall traffic trends are not necessarily as strong.

Speaker Change: But we're tending to do well is on their promotional activity and they are limited time offers we're participating a fair amount in that activity and that tends to drive sort of accelerated improvement in those customers' performance. But also includes our brands and in many cases that can really drive a lot of excitement I think to some <unk>.

Brendan Foley: Rob, let me just take the first part of your question and then I'll hand it over to Marcos for additional context. So I would just, you know, start off with that.

Speaker Change: These promotions and so we see some upside there in the Americas. We're also seeing it in Asia.

Speaker Change: Specific region.

Speaker Change: In that region.

Speaker Change: Quick serve restaurants have been actually quite strong for last several quarters and so we see continued strength in their performance and again, it's driven by strong promotional activity and driving traffic, but that's been true for some time and obviously those markets and they are broadly performing well. If I also think though about food away from home and you look at beyond quick serve.

Marcos Gabriel: But Marcus, would you like to add anything? I think that, I mean, you hit the first one. I mean, we're not going to make any trade-offs, trade-offs between quality and price, and we'll continue to, and that's the, really the advantage that we have in our sourcing organization, that we do both. Yeah. It's an and, not an or, really.

Speaker Change: Restaurants areas like fast casual are actually growing in traffic and they are performing well and our brands were growing tabletop market share.

Marcos Gabriel: In terms of the second question, Rob, in terms of the pressure, I mean, when I said, you know, the global trade environment, I mean, what I meant was really the fact that, you know, suppliers and customers are in somewhat of a standstill right now, and if you think about it, I mean, the supply-demand dynamics that we expected, we expected to see drive, that dynamics driving lower costs, and that didn't materialize. So that is what is really impacting, you know, our gross margin, and that's essentially why we call down our gross margin for the year to zero, to flat and 50 basis points, and, you know, we're taking a very surgical approach to pricing, as I said, because we want to make sure that we maintain the momentum that we have in the business, the volume momentum, but also protecting OP.

Speaker Change: We're seeing our brands get even more presence in locations like that and so that tends to drive consumer excitement, particularly when they're thinking about where they can find value. Those are things that really strengthen I think the value proposition when you're eating away from home and so we're seeing strength there, particularly in the Americas region of having said all of that in EMEA, we're definitely.

Speaker Change: We can see and continued softness in quick serve restaurants, I would say, it's a little bit softer than what we expected, but most of that we think is driven really by.

Speaker Change: What has been framed as geopolitical boycotts.

Speaker Change: As due to the conflict in the middle East and so that is an area that I, probably don't think we had expected to see as much softness coming from that but as we look forward to the rest of the year, especially in a market like EMEA.

Speaker Change: We believe that that will tend to stabilize.

Speaker Change: Because we're also comparing against some pretty low numbers from the prior year. So I'll stop there because it's obviously a lot of individual different diverse segments and I'll see if that addresses what youre looking to get yes.

Marcos Gabriel: So we're pulling all the levers that we can through the P&L, and one big lever that we're pulling is SG&A. So if you go towards the back half of the year, you're going to see gross margin expansion in the second half compared to the first half, but we're going to offset that by SG&A initiatives. So we're going to continue to invest in SG&A in terms of A&P, brand marketing, and technology, but that's going to be offset by the CCI programs that we have in place, including the SG&A streamlined initiatives that we implemented in Q2. So it's really playing with all the levers to minimize volume impact, but yet deliver margin expansion.

Speaker Change: Yes, thanks, very much guys.

Speaker Change: Our next question is from the line of Robert Moskow with TD Cowen. Please proceed with your questions.

Speaker Change: Hi, Thanks for the question a couple Marcos.

Speaker Change: When you say that you found sourcing opportunities.

Speaker Change: I imagine that means youre, finding less expensive options.

Speaker Change: But I know that you make a point to to buy higher quality ingredients and your peers. So how do you go about doing both of those things at the same time is there any risk of sacrificing quality and then secondly, you also mentioned elevated.

Alexia Howard: Okay, thank you.

Alexia Howard: Our next question is from the line of Alexia Howard with Bernstein. Please receive. Good morning, everyone. A couple of questions here.

Alexia Howard: First of all, what do you make of the expanded list of over 40 additives that Texas is planning to require on pack labels saying that they've been banned in other countries like Canada and the EU? This list of over 40 additives seems broader than the just the artificial dyes that the federal level has covered so far. It seems to include antioxidants and preservatives that may be harder for food companies to find replacements for without reducing shelf life. It's obviously very early days. This only happened in the last few days. But do you anticipate another step up in reformulation efforts as a result of that?

Speaker Change: Elevated pressure on certain commodities due to the global trade environment can you be more specific on what that is and why do you choose to mitigate it through SG&A. Thanks.

Speaker Change: Okay.

Speaker Change: Rob Let me just take the first part of your question and then I'll hand, it over to Marcus for additional context.

Speaker Change: There is no trade off.

Speaker Change: Our business with regard to quality.

Speaker Change: So I think thats really an important thing to say.

Speaker Change: Immediately because.

Speaker Change: Yes, it's a fair assumption that if we're mitigating this for finding a lower cost to offset what I might've been a higher cost, but quality remains a top priority for our company and we're still able to procure items.

Speaker Change: Items that meet our quality requirements, which tend to be higher than anyone else in the industry. So I would just start off with that markets would you like that.

Brendan Foley: You know, Alexia, I think with regard to the activities that are going on at a state-by-state level, we're working hand-in-hand with the Consumer Brands Association and other industry peers and partners just to certainly work through what we believe can be a very— when you think about things on a state-by-state level, that can get really disruptive at a national level. And so the first thing that we would advocate, along with all of our other business partners out there, is whatever the consumer needs, you know, let's address it at a national level. Because when it goes state-by-state, that's just incredibly disruptive, you know, overall.

Speaker Change: I think that you hit the first one I mean, we're not going to make any tradeoffs tradeoffs between quality and price and that will continue to and that's the really the.

Speaker Change: <unk> that we have in our sourcing organization that we do both.

Speaker Change: And then not in or really.

Speaker Change: In terms of the second question, Rob in terms of the pressure I mean, when I said.

Speaker Change: The global trade environment, I mean, what I meant was really the fact that.

Speaker Change: Suppliers and customers are in somewhat of a standstill right now and and if you think about it I mean, the supply demand dynamics that we expected we expected to see drive drive that dynamics is driving lower costs and that didn't materialize.

Brendan Foley: Now, specifically, though, you know, with regard to additives, you know, I think each and every one of those just needs its own conversation. So it's hard to address, like you said, a list of 40 things. So today, I don't think I could address it directly with you just because it's almost— it's certainly a significant, you know, amount. And I think that we have to get this down to a manageable level of conversation.

Speaker Change: So that is what is really impacting.

Speaker Change: Our gross margin and Thats essentially the Wildwood call download those margins for the year.

Speaker Change: Two zero to flat and 50 basis points.

Brendan Foley: That's about the most I could say right now on this, because it is early days. Perfect, thank you.

Speaker Change: <unk>.

Speaker Change: We're taking a very surgical approach to pricing as I said, because we want to make sure that we maintain the momentum that we're having the business the volume momentum, but also protecting op.

Marcos Gabriel: And then just as a follow-up, I know that back in 2020, you were planning to do your big SAP transition as a big event that year, and then obviously the pandemic put it off. I believe that you're still in the process of executing that. Is that going to be a meaningful step up in investment, or is it a similar level of investment next year, as maybe you've seen this year?

Speaker Change: So we are pulling all the levers that we can through the P&L and one big lever that we're pulling these SG&A. So as you go towards the back half of the year, you're going to see gross margin expansion in the second half compared to the first half, but we're going to offset that by SG&A initiatives, although that will continue to invest in SG&A in terms of A&P brand marketing and technology.

Marcos Gabriel: Just wondering about the path for the investment on the IT side over the next couple of years. Thank you, and I'll pass it on.

Speaker Change: But that's going to be offset by the CCI programs that will have in place, including the SG&A streamline initiatives that we implemented in Q2, so it's really.

Marcos Gabriel: Sure, Alexia. I'll take that one.

Marcos Gabriel: You know, we've pivoted our implementation plan to really de-risk the ERP implementation. That's the first thing that I want to say. Instead of a big ban, we've pivoted to a functional deployment approach, which takes a little longer, but it takes the risk off the table. So that was the first thing that we wanted to do. So that's elongated a little bit of the implementation of the ERP system, but at the same time, it's smoothed out the expense and the investments. So you should not see a peak of investments regarding the ERP implementation going into next year.

Speaker Change: Playing with all the levers to minimize the volume impact, but yet deliver margin expansion.

Speaker Change: Okay. Thank you.

Speaker Change: Our next question is from the line of Alexia Howard with Bernstein. Please proceed with your question.

Speaker Change: Good morning, everyone a couple of questions here flexible.

Speaker Change: What do you make of the expanded relationship over 40 additives that Texas is planning to.

Speaker Change: Require on track labels, saying that they've been banned in other countries like Canada and the EU.

Speaker Change: This list.

Marcos Gabriel: You should see something that is more normalized to what we've seen this year.

Speaker Change: Over 40 advocating broader than the just the artificial dyes.

Marcos Gabriel: But obviously, around technology more broadly, we'll continue to invest in digital, in AI, and things like that. But the ERP, specifically for the ERP, you should not see an increase in spend. It's pretty much going to be in line with what we've seen this year.

Speaker Change: On the federal level is kind of it so far it seems to include antioxidants and preservatives that may be hard at Cepheid company to find replacement for without reducing shelf life.

Speaker Change: We think very Allegate. This already happened in the last few days, but do you anticipate another step up and reformulation efforts as a result of that.

Speaker Change: Yeah.

Marcos Gabriel: Thank you very much.

Speaker Change: Like I said I think with regard to the activities that are going on a state by state level, We're working hand in hand, with a consumer brands Association and.

Stephen Powers: The next questions are from the line of Steve Powers with Deutsche Bank. Yes, hey, good morning, everybody. Morning.

Speaker Change: In other industry peers and partners just.

Stephen Powers: And so I wanted to ask about the brand marketing tweak that you've made in your outlook. I think you've been pretty clear in your intent to drive higher brand marketing investments, you know, to underscore the top line momentum that you've talked about. So I guess in that context, just the decision to step down brand marketing, by my math, it looks like maybe a $5 to $10 million reduction versus your prior planning. So I guess my question is, why not, you know, reinvest those efficiencies to provide further top line insurance in an uncertain world, even if it were to cost you a couple of pennies in near term EPS?

Speaker Change: Certainly work through what we believe can be a theory.

Speaker Change: When you think about things on a state by state level that can get really disruptive.

Speaker Change: At a national level and so the first thing that we would.

Speaker Change: Advocates along with other of our other business partners out there is whatever whatever.

Speaker Change: The consumer needs.

Speaker Change: What's the address it at a national level because when they go state by state. That's just incredibly constructive overall, not specifically, though with regard to additives I think each and every one of those just needs its own.

Speaker Change: Other industry peers and partners just.

Speaker Change: It's one conversation so it's hard to address like you said a list of 40 think so today I don't think I could address it directly with you just because it's almost.

Stephen Powers: Well, thanks for the question, Steve. I think when we looked at, you know, overall A&P, what you're seeing right there is just really a reflection. I think you even said this in our prepared remarks of just our efforts around productivity and CCI. You know, we're constantly looking at ways to just, you know, buy media more cheaply and do things more effectively. And I think we continue to find ways to do that when we think about A&P. You know, and honestly, technology has been an enabler there, you know, for us. So I think that's, you know, one point of context I think it's worth sharing.

Speaker Change: It's certainly significant mountain I think that we have to get this down to a manageable level of conversation that's about the most I can say right now on this because it is early days.

Speaker Change: Perfect. Thank you and then just as a follow up I know that back in 2020, you are planning to add to your big SAP transition is a big event that year and then obviously the pandemic put it off I believe you are still in the process of executing that is that going to be a meaningful.

Stephen Powers: When we look at the rest of the year, we still have quite a bit of increased investment to happen for the balance of the year in the second half. So this was one of not, you know, pulling back on anything and not reducing sort of the amount of intensity and focus that we put around that. So we have quite still a bit of A&P growth that's going to support the business over and above the prior year as we look at the back half. So we're really pretty comfortable, I think, right now that we continue to invest at higher levels year over year.

Speaker Change: Step up in investment towards at a similar level of investment next year is that maybe you've seen this year just wondering about the path.

Speaker Change: For the investment on the it side over the next couple of years, Thank you and I'll pass it on.

Speaker Change: Sure Alex I'll take that one.

Speaker Change: We've.

Speaker Change: Pivoted our implementation plan.

Speaker Change: To be relative risk the ERP implementation. That's the first thing that I want to say instead of a big Bang.

Stephen Powers: But it's not an indication of any adjustment in strategy or trying to pull away investment for the business. We were simply just reflecting now.

David: David It to a functional deployment approach.

David: Which takes a little longer but it takes the risk off the table. So that was the first thing that we wanted to do so that's an elongated a little bit of the implementation of the ERP system, but at the same time is smooth it out the spends and investments. So you should not see a peak of investments regarding the ERP.

Stephen Powers: to the point about having the opportunity to reinvest. I will tell you that we're doing that every And so we've done it in the first quarter. You heard our commentary around, you know, I think recipe. We also did it again in the second quarter around hot sauce, and we're really starting to see strong results behind that right now, too. And I'm sure we may look at other opportunities in the second half where we can also continue to reinvest. So that's kind of the perspective around that, Steve.

David: Implementation going into next year, you should see something that is more normalized to what we've seen this year.

David: But obviously around technology more broadly we'll continue to invest in digital.

David: In AI and things like that but the Rps specifically for the ERP you should not see.

Brendan Foley: OK, very helpful.

Brendan Foley: And if I could, Brendan, you alluded to a good deal of innovation and distribution advances in your prepared remarks. I know you have a lot of activity ongoing and more coming. As we think about the back half, does the incrementality of those distribution innovation pushes skew at all to 3Q versus 4Q, or is it a fairly even contribution as the year progresses? I would think about it as an even contribution as the year progresses. You know, what is incremental, if you think about what was already in place and then what's incremental? We have a continued growth in A&P support and spend on the business.

David: And increasing spend at pretty much you are going to be in line with what we've seen this year.

David: Perfect. Thank you very much I'll pass it on.

Steve Powers: The next question is from the line of Steve Powers with Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.

Steve Powers: Yes, Hey, good morning, everybody.

Steve Powers: Good morning.

Steve Powers: So I wanted to ask about.

Steve Powers: The brand marketing tweaks.

Steve Powers: Tweak that you've made in your outlook I think you've been pretty clear in your intent to drive higher brand marketing investments.

Steve Powers: Underscore the top line momentum that you've talked about so I guess in that context, just the decision to step down in brand marketing.

Brendan Foley: We're going to see more new items, you know, hit the shelf in the second half versus the first half or even last year. We're also going to see even stronger distribution. I think it's already starting to come through in the data. And so that will be incremental to what we had in the prior year or in the first half of the year. And that's kind of going to hit, I think, both quarters evenly. What won't, I don't think, is some of the surgical pricing that we've talked about, that's probably likely to show up more in the fourth quarter.

Speaker Change: By my math, it looks like maybe a $5 million to $10 million reduction versus your prior planning so.

Steve Powers: I guess my question is why not reinvest those of those efficiencies to provide further topline insurance in an uncertain world.

Speaker Change: But if it were to cost you a couple of pennies and near term EPS.

Steve Powers: Well thanks for the question, Steve I think when we looked at.

Steve Powers: Overall A&P of what Youre seeing right. There is just really a reflection I think you even said this in our prepared remarks, just our efforts around productivity in CCI.

Steve Powers: We're constantly looking at ways to just buy media more cheaply do things more effectively and I think we continue to find ways to do that when we think about A&P.

Brendan Foley: And so, therefore, you might see a slightly different, you know, composition. But broadly, the pressure that we have in the back half, I would say, is going to be consistent from quarter three to quarter five. Does that help? Perfect. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. All right. Great.

Steve Powers: And honestly technologist and an enabler there.

Steve Powers: For us so I think Thats, one one point of context, I think it's worth sharing.

Steve Powers: We look at the rest of the year, we still have quite a bit of increased investments to happen.

Max Gumport: The next questions are from the line of Max Gumport with BNP Parma. Hey, thanks for the question. First, Brendan, you mentioned your continued confidence in your long term objectives.

Steve Powers: For the balance of the year in the second half. So this was one of.

Steve Powers: Not pulling back on anything and not reducing the amount of <unk>.

Brendan Foley: I just wanted to confirm that Even with the inclusion of tariffs now in your outlook, the long-term targets you gave at the Investor Day last year from FY20 through to FY28, do those still stand? Yeah, we still feel like, you know, confident and comfortable with those. Obviously, as things change, we have to modify our plans at times, like, if you think about, you know, sort of the first half of this year, but it hasn't taken us off our game plan from a long term perspective. Right.

Steve Powers: Tensity and focus that we put around that.

Steve Powers: So we have quite as there's still a bit of A&P growth, that's going to support the business over and above the prior year as we look at the back half. So we're very pretty comfortable where I think right now that we continue to invest at higher levels year over year, but it's not an indication of any adjustments in track strategy or try to pull away investment for the business.

Steve Powers: We were simply just reflecting now.

Steve Powers: To the point about having the opportunity to reinvest things I will tell you that we're doing that every quarter.

Steve Powers: And so we've done it in the first quarter you heard our commentary around I think recipe mix. We also did it again in the second quarter around hot sauce, and we're really starting to see strong results behind that right now too.

Max Gumport: And then you talked about seeing an uptick in innovation activity from the large CPG customers, particularly in the US, who are also seeing some volume softness right now. You mentioned that they're doing things like putting more and their products. But could you talk more broadly about The level to which you're seeing this uptick take hold, you know, is it one of the higher levels you've seen in the past several years?

Steve Powers: I am sure we may look at other opportunities in the second half where we can also continue to reinvest so that's.

Steve Powers: That's kind of the perspective around that.

Speaker Change: Very helpful and if I could.

Steve Powers: And then you alluded to a good deal of innovation and distribution advances in your prepared remarks.

Brendan Foley: And then give a bit more detail about the types of actions you're seeing from these large CPG customers with regard to innovation and how you think your business might be able to benefit from this. Thanks very much, and I'll leave it there. Okay, thank you, Max. Well, from a From an activity perspective, we always have had activity in terms of reformulations, matching, you know, helping to roll out innovation and new products for our customers. When you look at the mix of activity, we're definitely seeing an acceleration in reformulation activity and even matching activity. And so those are areas that are on top of what would be a normal level of innovation activity.

Steve Powers: Do you have a lot of activity ongoing and more coming.

Steve Powers: As we think about the back half does that does the incremental 80 of the of those distribution innovation pushes.

Steve Powers: SKU at all to <unk> versus <unk> or is it fairly even contribution as the year progresses.

Steve Powers: I would think about it as an EBIT contribution as the year progresses.

Steve Powers: <unk>.

Steve Powers: Is incremental if you think about what was already in place and then what's incremental we have.

Steve Powers: Continued growth in A&P support and spend on the business.

Steve Powers: We're going to see more new items hit the shelves.

Steve Powers: In the second half versus the first half or even last year.

Brendan Foley: So it is net incremental, in my view, in terms of sort of the activity that we're seeing and what's happening. And we do over, we believe over time, that will result in just increased overall performance. And we'll see that benefit come through our business. I just can't necessarily predict exactly when that will happen. You know, everything's on a different time schedule at times. But, you know, the other thing we look at is, frankly, our ability, our win rate and how we're performing, you know, overall in terms of when those opportunities come up. And we tend to do pretty well.

Steve Powers: We're also going to see even stronger distribution I think it's hard to start to come through the data and so that will be incremental to what we.

Steve Powers: <unk> had in the prior year or in.

Steve Powers: The first half of the year.

Steve Powers: And.

Steve Powers: And thats kind of going to hit I think both quarters evenly wont I don't think is some of the surgical pricing that we've talked about that's probably likely to show up more in the fourth quarter and so therefore, you might see is slightly different.

Steve Powers: Composition, but broadly the pressure that we have in the back half I would say is it's going to be consistent from quarter three to quarter four does.

Brendan Foley: I don't have any percentages I'm going to share right now on a call or anything like that. But we're pleased with our win rate and the type of performance that we're getting when we engage with customers or new customers in terms of winning those briefs, winning that activity. But the activity has definitely taken up, Max. I think that's maybe the spirit of your question overall, and we're seeing it. large customers, small customers, it just it's really overall quite active, I think, in the marketplace. And we see that as being a lot of health and wellness driven activity.

Speaker Change: Does that help very perfect. Thank you very much I appreciate it alright, great.

Speaker Change: The next questions are from the line of Mexico import with BNP Powerbar. Please proceed with your questions.

Speaker Change: Hey, Thanks for the question Brandon.

Speaker Change: Brendan you mentioned your continued confidence in your long term objectives I just wanted to confirm that.

Speaker Change: Even with the inclusion of tariffs now in your outlook. The long term targets you gave.

Speaker Change: At the Investor Day last year for from FY 'twenty through FY 'twenty eight do those still stand.

Scott Marks: Great, thanks very much.

Speaker Change: Yes, we still feel like.

Scott Marks: Our next questions are from the line of Scott Marks with Jeffries. Morning. Thanks so much for taking the questions.

Speaker Change: Constant and comfortable with those.

Speaker Change: Obviously as things change we have to modify our plans at times like if you think about sort of first half of this year, but it hasnt taken us off our game plan from a long term perspective.

Scott Marks: Two questions from me first. I think previously you'd spoken to maybe some more volatile growth trends within the flavor solution business, just given the timing of wins and other things. And you also made some comments earlier about expecting the EMEA side of that business to stabilize. So just wanted to confirm maybe how you're thinking about a cadence of growth for the second half of the year within the flavor solutions segment. Well, within Flavor Solutions, I think that we... We don't really provide a guide by quarter. So, you know, when I think about it, though, and trying to think about, you know, what is the context that we can provide?

Speaker Change: Great and then you talked about fee and an uptick in the innovation activity from the large CPG customers, particularly in the U S who are.

Speaker Change: Also seeing some volume softness right now you mentioned that they're doing things like putting more protein in their products, but could you talk more broadly about.

Speaker Change: The level to which you're seeing this uptick take hold.

Speaker Change: One a bit higher levels, you've seen in the past several years, and then give a bit more detail about the types of actions you're seeing from these large CPG customers with regard to innovation and how and how you think your business might be able to benefit from this activity. Thanks, very much and I'll leave it there.

Brendan Foley: I think in the Americas region, we expect that the trends that we've seen so far to be sustained. And I don't know that I would expect to see, by the way, this business is typically lumpy, as we've used that description before. So that always applies. But when you think about beyond sort of the traditional element of lumpiness, if you just look at our first quarter and second quarter, and then add up the first half, you'll see what I mean with regard to, you know, sometimes we see some lumpiness in trends. But in the Americas, we expect mostly those trends to sustain.

Max: Thank you Max up.

Speaker Change: From a.

Speaker Change: From an activity perspective, we always have had activity in terms of re formulations matching.

Speaker Change: Helping to rollout innovation of new products for our customers.

Speaker Change: When you look at the mix of activity, we're definitely seeing.

Speaker Change: And acceleration of the formulation activity and even matching activity.

Brendan Foley: Obviously, if we see a tick up in traffic, that would even improve that. And although QSRs are probably a smaller piece of our business in the Americas region, you know, we expect that to continue to well. In EMEA, I think we're comparing against weaker performance in the prior year, and that is, you know, sort of the same in both quarters. And, you know, we would hope that that would start to flatten out and begin to stabilize, you know, based on what we're seeing. And the one thing that we just cannot predict is just what may be happening geopolitically, and that might have an impact.

Speaker Change: So those are areas that are on top of what would be a normal level of innovation activity. So it is net incremental in my view.

Speaker Change: In terms of sort of the activity that we're seeing and what's happening and we do over we believe over time that will result in just increased overall performance, we will see that benefit come through our business I just can't necessarily predict exactly when that will happen.

Speaker Change: Everything is on a different time schedule at times.

Speaker Change: But the other thing we look at is frankly, our ability our win rate and how we're performing.

Marcos Gabriel: That seems to have had a more volatile effect over the last year and a half. And so those are things that we will not try to predict. But that has been one element in the first half of the year. When I look at Asia Pacific, I would give you the same reply as I did the Americas region. We expect those trends to really be consistent in the second half as in the first. And just to build on that, Brendan, I would say, Scott, I mean, you would see in that part of the portfolio a little bit more pricing actions taking now as we go towards the second half of the year.

Speaker Change: Overall in terms of when those opportunities come up and we tend to do pretty well.

Speaker Change: I don't have any percentages on the share right now on a call or anything like that but but we're pleased with our win rate and the type of performance that we're getting when we engage with customers or new customers.

Speaker Change: And in terms of winning those briefs winning that activity, but the activity has definitely taken up back. So I think thats, maybe the spirit of your question.

Speaker Change: Overall, and we're seeing it.

Speaker Change: Large customers small customers.

Marcos Gabriel: And that is due to the commodities that I talked to before, but also some FX impact, primarily in Latin America. So we're, you know, taking some surgical, again, pricing in those markets, you know, just to make sure that we are in, you know, protecting our operating margin. And for the full year, the operating margin will expand in slave solutions in line with our objectives to get back to a level of operating margin that we had before. Got it.

Speaker Change: It's really overall quite active I think in the marketplace and we see that as being a lot of health and wellness driven activity.

Speaker Change: Great. Thanks very much.

Speaker Change: Our next questions are from the line of Scott marks with Jefferies. Please proceed with your questions.

Scott Marks: Hey, good morning, Thanks, so much for taking my questions. This morning.

Scott Marks: <unk> two questions from me first I think previously you had spoken to maybe some more volatile growth trends within the flavor solutions business, just given timing of wins and other things.

Brendan Foley: And then just as it relates to the consumer business, obviously, given strength of some of your categories, perimeter of store relative to some more center store areas right now, wondering just what are discussions like with retailers right now? Are they kind of more receptive to innovations? Are they more receptive to surgical price increases than maybe some of your peers right now? Just trying to gauge what the conversations are like relative to history. I think broadly, we are We feel like we're having very positive, productive conversations with all of our customers. You know, we take a customer-led, you know, framework and position in everything that we do because we're there to grow their category.

Speaker Change: And you also made some comments earlier about expecting the EMEA side of that business to stabilize so just wanted to confirm maybe how youre thinking about cadence of growth for the second half of the year within the flavor solutions segment.

Speaker Change: Well within flavor solutions I think that.

Speaker Change: We don't really.

Speaker Change: To provide a guide by quarter so.

Speaker Change: I think about it though and trying to think about what is the context that we can provide.

Speaker Change: Think the in the Americas region.

Speaker Change: We expect that the trends that we've seen so far to be sustained and I don't know that I would expect to see.

Speaker Change: The way that this business is typically lumpy as we've used that description before so that always supplies.

Speaker Change: But when you think about beyond sort of the traditional element of Lumpiness. If you just look at our first our first quarter and second quarter and then out of the first half you'll see what I mean with regard to <unk>.

Brendan Foley: In their in their stores and in their banners and so we certainly take very much a very strong category view What's going to be healthiest for the category? And that includes the performance of our brands as well as the performance of their private label and the category, you know in general and so We believe that we've done really, you know quite well Especially in the last you know two years and really bringing forth just a more aggressive agenda at driving the categories and seizing opportunity to drive growth with consumers and You know right now I think we're we're seeing that the strength of that even if you look at you know Distribution growth that that is a byproduct of great conversations great relationships in terms of deciding what's right for the consumer And so that is we believe an area of strength of ours Whether it's a category management revenue management innovation And also just our high levels of brand marketing support all really are there to drive the categories for our retailer customers And so that's all going I think quite strongly and I would say our conversation has really been quite productive and quite collaborative Thanks so much for having us.

Speaker Change: Sometimes we see some lumpiness in trends, but in the Americas, we expect mostly that those trends to sustain obviously, if we see a tick up in traffic that would even improve that.

Speaker Change: And although <unk> were probably the smaller piece of our business in the Americas region, we expect that to continue to perform well.

Speaker Change: In EMEA I think we're comparing against weaker performance in the prior year and that is sort of the same in both quarters.

Speaker Change: And.

Speaker Change: We would hope that that would start to flatten out and begin to stabilize.

Speaker Change: Based on what we're seeing.

Speaker Change: And the one thing that we just cannot predict is just what may be happening geopolitically and that might have an impact but that seems to have had a more.

Speaker Change: More of a volatile effect over the last year and a half and so those are things that we will not try to predict.

Speaker Change: But that has been one element in the first half of the year when I look at Asia Pacific I would give you the same reply as I did the Americas region, we expect those trends to really be consistent in the second half as in the first.

Speaker Change: And so just to build on that to Brendan I would say Scott I mean, I would say that part of the portfolio a little bit more pricing actions, taking now as we go towards the second half of the year and that is due to the commodities that I talked to before but also some FX impact primarily in Latin America. So we are taking some.

Brendan Foley: Thank you.

Brian Adams: Our final question is from the line of Brian Adams with UBS. Hey, morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question.

Marcos Gabriel: Just a housekeeping one. As we think about the, I think it's mid to high single digits or so, operating income growth for the second half of the year total company, do we expect that to be more concentrated in consumer or flavor solutions? Because on the one hand, based on some of the responses so far, sounds like top line is probably going to be a bit stronger in consumer than in flavors. But I know flavors is also the area where you see more room for margin expansion longer term. And I know, Marcos, you just mentioned some pricing coming in there, too.

Speaker Change: Surgical again pricing in those markets.

Speaker Change: Just to make sure that we are in.

Speaker Change: Protecting our operating margin.

Speaker Change: And for the full year, the operating margin will expand in flavor solutions in line with our objectives to get back to a level of operating margin that we had before.

Speaker Change: Got it and then just as it relates to the to the consumer business, obviously, given strength of some of your categories.

Marcos Gabriel: So just trying to balance those two things, if you could give any color there. Thank you. Yes, so on a quarterly basis, this may fluctuate. It does fluctuate between segments, as you know. And so in the second half of the year, we're going to see contributions from both segments in terms of operating margin. And then on a four-year basis, you would see that flavor solutions will have a driver, will be the biggest driver as we want to continue to invest back in the business, in the consumer, to drive the volume momentum that we have. So that's kind of our philosophy.

Speaker Change: Perimeter of store relative to some more center store areas right now.

Speaker Change: Wondering just what are the discussions like with retailers right now or are they kind of more receptive to innovation are they more receptive to surgical price increases than maybe than maybe some of your peers right now just trying to gauge what.

Speaker Change: What the conversations are like relative to.

Speaker Change: History.

Speaker Change: Well I think broadly.

Speaker Change: We are.

Speaker Change: We feel like we haven't very positive productive conversations with all of our customers.

Marcos Gabriel: Really, on a four-year basis, you should look at the segments on a four-year basis more than on a quarterly basis. And in the consumer, the spirit is really to invest back, you know, the gross margin gains back into brand marketing as well as technology to continue to drive the volume line, the volume, the top-line momentum through volume. And then on the flavor solutions, it's really about, you know, extending margins and recovering our profitability there, but also growing, obviously, right? But that's kind of a – so on a four-year basis, you should see more of a flavor solutions as a driver.

Speaker Change: We take a.

Speaker Change: The customer led.

Speaker Change: No.

Speaker Change: Framework and positioned in everything that we do because we are there to grow their categories.

Speaker Change: And they're in their stores and their banners and so we certainly take very much of a very strong category view of what's going to be healthier for the category and that includes the performance of our brands as well as the performance of their private label and the category in general and so we.

Speaker Change: We believe that we've done really quite.

Speaker Change: Quite well, especially in the last two years and really bringing for just more aggressive agenda driving the categories and seizing opportunity.

Marcos Gabriel: Good stuff. Thanks, guys. Okay. Thank you.

Speaker Change: To drive growth with consumers and right now I think where we're seeing the strength of that even if you look at distribution growth is a byproduct of great conversations great relationships in terms of deciding what's right for the consumer.

Unknown Attendee: I'll now turn the call back to management for closing. Thank you, everybody, for joining us this morning. If you have any questions following this call, please reach out. Thank you and have a great day. This will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

Speaker Change: So that is we believe an area of strength of ours.

Speaker Change: Whether it's category management revenue management.

Speaker Change: Innovation.

Speaker Change: And also just our high levels of <unk>.

Speaker Change: Brand marketing support all really are there to drive the categories for our retailer customers and so that's all going I think quite strongly.

Speaker Change: I would say our conversations really been quite productive quite collaborative.

Speaker Change: Thanks, so much.

Speaker Change: Thank you.

Speaker Change: Final question is from the line of Brian Adams with UBS. Please proceed with your question.

Brian Adams: Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question.

Speaker Change: Just a housekeeping one as we think about I think it is mid to high single digits or so operating income growth for the second half of the year total company should.

Peter Galbo: Should we expect that to be more concentrated in consumer or flavor solutions because on the one hand based on some of the responses. So far it sounds like top line is probably going to be a bit stronger in consumer than in flavors, but I know flavors is also the area, where you see more room for margin expansion longer term and I know Mark you just mentioned some pricing coming in there too so.

Speaker Change: Trying to balance those two things if you could give any color there. Thanks.

Speaker Change: Yes, so on a quarterly basis Disney flopped fluctuate it does fluctuate between segments as you know and so.

Speaker Change: In the second half of the year are going to see contributions from both segments.

Speaker Change: In terms of operating margin.

Speaker Change: And then on a full year basis, you would see that flavor solutions will have.

Speaker Change: The driver will be the biggest driver as we want to continue to invest back in the business and the consumer.

Speaker Change: It will drive the volume momentum that we have so that's kind of our philosophy really on a full year basis, you should look at the segments on a full year basis more than on a quarterly basis and in the consumer. This spirit is really to invest back the <unk>.

Speaker Change: Margin gains back into brand marketing and as well as technology to continue to drive the volume line the volume the top line momentum through through volume.

Speaker Change: On the flavor solutions is really about.

Speaker Change: Extending margins and recovering our profitability there, but also but also growing obviously right, but that's kind of on a full year basis, you should see more of a flavor solutions as a driver.

Speaker Change: Thanks, guys.

Speaker Change: Okay.

Speaker Change: Yeah.

Speaker Change: Thank you I'll now turn the call back to management for closing remarks.

Speaker Change: Thank you everybody for joining us. This morning, if you have any questions. Following this call. Please reach out thank you and have a great day.

Speaker Change: This will conclude today's conference you may disconnect your lines at this time and thank you for your participation.

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