Q4 2025 AAR Corp Earnings Call
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Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to AAR's fiscal year 2025 fourth quarter earnings call.
I will now like to turn the conference over to management. You may begin.
We're joined today by John Holmes, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Sean Gillen, Chief Financial Officer.
The presentation material we are sharing today as part of this webcast can also be found under the investor relations section on our corporate website.
Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that the comments made during the call may include forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. Accordingly, these statements are no guarantee of future performance.
Speaker Change: Good afternoon everyone and welcome to aar's fiscal year 2025, fourth quarter earnings call. We're joined today by John Holmes, chairman president and chief executive officer and Shaun, Gillan Chief Financial Officer. The presentation material, we are sharing today is part of this webcast can also be found under the investor relations section on our corporate website.
These risks and uncertainties are discussed in the company's earnings release and the risk factors section of the company's annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended May 31st, 2024. In providing the forward-looking statements, the company assumes no obligation to provide updates to reflect future circumstances or anticipated or unanticipated events.
Certain non-GAAP financial information will be discussed during the call today. A reconciliation of these measures to the most comparable GAAP measures is set forth in the company's earnings release and slides.
A transcript of this conference call will be available shortly after the webcast on AAR's website.
At this time, I would like to turn the call over to AAR's Chairman, President, and CEO, John Holmes. Thank you and welcome everyone to our fourth quarter fiscal year 2025 earnings call. We are very proud of the record year we just delivered. And as you will see, we are continuing to advance the execution of our strategy. We have accompanying information on the slides I will be referencing as I talk through the details of this release.
Speaker Change: Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that the comments made during the call. May include include forward-looking statements as defined in the private Securities. Litigation Reform, Act of 1995, these forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements accordingly. These statements are no guarantee of future performance, these risks and uncertainties are discussed in the company's earnings release and the risk factor section of the company's annual report on form 10K for the fiscal year. Ended May 31st 2024 in providing the forward-looking statements, the company assumes. No obligation to provide updates to reflect the future circumstances or anticipated or unanticipated. Events certain non-gaap financial information will be discussed during the call today. Our reconciliation of these non-gaap measures to the most comparable. Gaap measures is set forth in the company's earnings release and slides. A transcript of this conference call will be available shortly after the webcast on apr's website. At this time I would like to turn the call over to aar's Chairman president and CEO.
Speaker Change: Thank you and welcome everyone to our fourth quarter fiscal year 2025 earnings call. We are very proud of the record year. We just delivered and as you will see, we are continuing to advance the execution of our strategy.
Turning to slide three, there are five key highlights from the fiscal year 2025 that I would like to cover today. First, we delivered outstanding financial performance in the quarter and the full year. On that note, we are particularly proud of the 14% organic sales growth, which excludes landing gear that we drove in the quarter. Second, we have continued to refine and optimize our portfolio. We have substantially completed the integration of the product support acquisition and completed the divestiture of our landing gear overhaul business. Third, we are successfully driving above market growth in our new parts distribution activities.
Speaker Change: We have accompanying information on the slides, I will be referencing as I talk through the details of this release.
Speaker Change: Turning the slide 3. There are 5 key highlights from the fiscal year 2025 that I would like to cover today. First, we delivered outstanding financial performance in the quarter and the full year on that note, we are particularly proud of the 14th percent, organic sales growth, which excludes landing gear that we drove in the quarter.
Speaker Change: Second we have continued to refine and optimize our portfolio. We have substantially completed the integration of the product support acquisition and completed. The destitute of our landing gear overhaul business
Fourth, our track software solution is capturing new business wins and is delivering results. And fifth, we are continuing to reduce net leverage by both growing adjusted EBITDA and reducing net debt. We ended the quarter at 2.7 times, and absent any M&A, we are on track to meet our leverage target of 2.0 to 2.5 times.
Turning to slide four, this is a high level view of our financial results for fiscal year 2025. We delivered record full year results of $2.8 billion, up 20% over the prior year. Adjusted EBITDA margin increased 140 basis points to 11.8% in fiscal 2025, which reflects strong growth across our core sector. We generated record-adjusted diluted earnings per share of $3.91 compared to $3.33 last We continue to reduce our net leverage and our strong balance sheet, along with our disciplined capital allocation strategy, have us well positioned for investments that will drive continued growth.
Speaker Change: Third. We are successfully driving above market growth in our new parts distribution activities forth. Our track software solution is capturing new business wins and is delivering results and fifth. We are continuing to reduce net leverage by both growing adjusted Ava, and reducing that debt, we ended the quarter at 2.7 times and absent. Any m&a, we are on track to meet our leverage Target of 2.0 to 2.5 times.
Speaker Change: Turning to slide 4. This is a high-level view of our financial results for fiscal year 2025.
Speaker Change: We delivered record full year results of 2.8 billion of 20% over the prior year. Adjusted Evita margin increased 140, basis points to 11.8% in fiscal 2025, which reflects strong growth across our core segments.
Speaker Change: We generated record adjusted diluted earnings per share of $3.91 compared to $3.33 last year.
Turning now to slide five, I will discuss our strategy execution in more detail. We are executing across our strategic objectives to drive growth through market share capture and new business. improve margin through cost efficiency and synergy realization, increase the intellectual property in our offerings through digital and other investments, and to continue our discipline portfolio management.
We continue to reduce our net leverage, and our strong balance sheet along with our discipline Capital, allocation strategy have us, well, positioned for Investments, that will drive continued growth.
Speaker Change: Turning out to slide 5, I will discuss our strategy execution in more detail.
We are executing across our strategic objectives to drive growth, through market, share, capture, and new business.
The actions we are taking deliver the strong performance we saw in fiscal 2025, and we expect this to continue in 2026. Starting with growth, we announced several new business wins in the quarter. In our parts supply segment, we extended our multi-year agreement with EFTI to exclusively distribute CFM-56 engine material to the aviation aftermarket through 2030. We also entered into a supply chain alliance agreement with the U.S. Defense Logistics Agency, which will enable AAR to provide comprehensive new parts distribution services to meet the needs of the DLA. In Integrated Solution, we established a joint venture with Kira, and the joint venture was awarded the U.S.
Speaker Change: Improve margins through cost efficiency and Synergy realization increase the intellectual property in our offerings, through digital and other Investments and to continue our discipline, portfolio management.
Speaker Change: The actions we are taking delivered. The strong performance we saw on fiscal 2025 and we expect this to continue in 2026.
Speaker Change: Starting with growth, we announced several new business wins in the quarter.
Speaker Change: In our parts supply segment. We extended our multi-year agreement with Epi to exclusively distribute cfm56 engine material to the aviation aftermarket through 2030.
We also entered into a supply chain Alliance agreement with the US defense Logistics agency, which will enable AAR to provide comprehensive new parts distribution services to meet the needs of the dla.
Navy's Pilot Training Program on the E-6B aircraft. Additionally, we continue to make progress on our Oklahoma City and our Miami MRO, airframe MRO expansions, which will come online in calendar 2026, adding 15% capacity to our network.
Speaker Change: Integrated solution, we established a joint venture with Keira. And the joint venture was awarded. The US Navy's pilot training program on the e6b aircraft.
These new business wins and expansions demonstrate the strength of our portfolio and the strong demand our customers have for our service. In cost efficiency and synergy realization, we have substantially completed the integration of the product support As a reminder, as part of the product support integration, we are exiting our Long Island, New York facility and consolidating that work into our locations in Dallas, Texas and Wellington, Kansas. We transferred the last pieces of equipment and work from New York in Q4 and intend to fully exit the New York facility in our fiscal Q1. We are now in a position to realize the full $10 million of cost synergies, which would contribute to further margin expansion.
Speaker Change: Additionally, we continue to make progress on our Oklahoma City and our Miami mro. Uh, airframe mro expansions, which will come online, and calendar 2026. Adding 15% capacity to our Network.
Speaker Change: These new business wins and expansions demonstrate the strength of our portfolio and the strong demand our customers have for our services.
Speaker Change: And cost efficiency and Synergy realization. We have substantially completed. The integration of the product support acquisition as a reminder, as part of the product support integration. We are exiting our Long Island, New York facility and consolidating that work into our locations in Dallas, Texas, and Wellington Kansas. We transferred, the last pieces of equipment and work from New York in Q4 and attend a fully exit. The New York facility, and our fiscal q1.
In our digital and IP enabled offerings, we saw continued strong traction for our Trax software solution, as we announced several new business wins, including our largest win yet with Delta Airlines. Trax was selected by Delta to modernize Delta Tech Ops maintenance and engineering. Trax will replace Delta Tech Ops legacy systems with its eMRO and eMobility. This multi-year implementation will ultimately be the largest of its kind in the maintenance ERP space. This one is a perfect example of our TRAX acquisition thesis whereby AAR can leverage its customer relationships to open doors for TRAX. Furthermore, this one demonstrates that with AAR's investments, TRAX can scale to support the largest airlines in the world.
We are now in a position to realize the full 10 million dollars of cost synergies, which can contribute to further margin expansion.
Speaker Change: In our digital and IP enabled offerings. We saw continued strong traction for our track software solution. As we had out several new business wins including our largest win. Yet with Delta, Airlines tracks was selected, by Delta, the modernized Delta Tech Ops maintenance and Engineering Systems tracts, will replace Delta Tech Ops Legacy systems with its emro and e-mobility solutions. This multi-year implementation will ultimately be the largest of its kind and the maintenance Erp space.
Finally, as part of our discipline for portfolio management, we completed the divestiture of our landing gear overhaul business. This move generated $48 million in cash and is margin accreted.
Speaker Change: This 1 is a perfect example of our tracks acquisition thesis whereby a can leverage, its customer relationships to open doors for tracks. Furthermore, this 1 demonstrators
As previously mentioned, all of this execution delivered excellent results in our fiscal year 2025, with strong double-digit growth across sales, adjusted EBITDA, and adjusted EPS.
Speaker Change: finally, as part of our discipline for portfolio management, we completed the devest tour of our landing gear overhaul business. This move generated 48 million in cash and is margin accretive
With that, I will now turn it over to Sean to discuss the results in more detail. Thanks, John. Looking now to slide six, total adjusted sales in the quarter grew 12% to 736 million year over year setting a new fourth quarter sales record. This strong growth was across all of our segments with particular strength in part supply. Excluding the sale of Landing Gear, which contributed sales of $18.6 million in last year's quarter and $8.3 million in this quarter, Q4 organic sales growth was 14%. For the full fiscal year, our organic sales growth, which excludes the impact of both the product support acquisition and Landing Gear divestiture was 9%.
Speaker Change: Year 2025 with strong double-digit growth, across sales adjusted, evida and adjusted EPS. With that, I will now turn it over to to Sean to discuss the results in more detail.
Thanks John, looking out a slide 6, total adjusted sales in the quarter, grew 12% to 736 million. Year-over-year setting a new fourth quarter, sales record
Sean: This strong growth was all of our segments with particular strength, in part supply.
Excluding the sale of landing gear which contributed sales of 18.6 million in last year's quarter and 8.3 million in. This quarter Q4 organic sales growth was 14%.
Sales to government customers increased 21%, and sales to commercial customers increased 12% from the same period last year. For the quarter, total commercial sales made up 69% of total sales, while government sales made up the remaining 31%. We are pleased to see the return to growth in our government. Compared to the same quarter last year, adjusted EBITDA increased 19% to 90.9 million and EBITDA margins increased to 12.4% from 11.6%. Adjusted operating income increased 25% to $76.9 million with adjusted operating margins improving to 10.5% from 9.3%. Our focus on improving operating efficiencies and particular strength in our parts supply segment drove the Improved Margin.
Sean: For the full fiscal year, our organic sales growth, which excludes the impact of both, the product support acquisition and landing gear deve was 9%.
Sales to government customers increased, 21%, and sales to commercial customers, increase 12% from the same period last year.
Sean: for the quarter total commercial sales made up 69% of total sales, while government sales made up the remaining 31%,
Sean: We are pleased to see The Return to growth in our government business.
Sean: Compared to the same quarter last year adjusted Evita increased 19% to 90.9 million and Ava margins increased to 12.4% from 11.6%.
Adjusted operating income increased 25% to 76.9 million with adjusted operating margins improving to 10.5% from 9.3%.
The combination of sales growth and margin expansion resulted in a year over year adjusted diluted EPS increase of 32% to $1.16 from $0.88 in the same quarter last year.
Sean: Our focus on improving operating efficiencies and particular strength in our part supply segment, drove the improved margins.
With that, I'll turn to the detailed results by segment, starting with parts supply on slide seven. Parts supply sales grew 17% to $306 million from the same quarter last year. We once again saw above market growth of over 20% in our new parts distribution activities with strong growth across both the commercial and government end markets.
Sean: The combination of sales growth and margin expansion, resulted in a year-over-year, adjusted diluted EPS, increase of 32% to a1.6 from 88 cents in the same quarter last year.
Sean: With that, I'll turn to the detailed results by segments, starting with Parts Supply on slide 7.
In USM, we once again saw modest growth due to the constraints in asset availability. Fourth quarter part supply adjusted EBITDA was 52.1 million, was higher by 36%, and adjusted EBITDA margin increased to 17.1% from 14.8% in the same quarter last year. Adjusted operating income rose 41% to $49.7 million and adjusted operating margins also increased from 13.5% to 16.3%. This significant margin improvement came from both New Parts Distribution and USM.
Parts, Supply, sales grew 17% to 306 million from the same quarter last year. We once again, saw above market growth of over 20% in our new parts, distribution activities, with strong growth across, both the commercial and government and markets.
Sean: In USM, we once again, saw modest growth due to the constraints in asset availability.
Fourth quarter Part Supply adjusted Eva dot was a 52.1 million was higher by 36% and adjusted Evita margin increased to 17.1% from 14.8% in the same quarter last year.
Adjusted operating income Rose 41% to 49.7 million and adjusted operating margins. Also increased from 13.5% to 16.3%.
In particular, USM had a very strong Q4 margin due to the certain whole asset transaction.
The significant margin Improvement. Came from both new parts, distribution and USM.
Turning now to slide eight for repair and Sales increased 3% to $223 million year over year.
Sean: In particular, USM had a very strong Q4 margin due to the certain whole asset transactions.
Sean: Turning now to slide 8 for repair and engineering.
Excluding the impact of the landing gear divestiture, the organic sales growth in repair and engineering was 8%, as demand remained strong for our airframe MRO activities, and we continued to drive efficiency to increase throughput. Adjusted EBITDA of 26.7 million was 6% lower than in the same period last year, with adjusted EBITDA margins decreasing to 12% from 13.1%. Fourth quarter adjusted operating income of $23.3 million was also 6% lower than the same period last year, and adjusted operating margins decreased to 10.5% from 11.5%.
Sales increased 3% to 223 million year-over-year.
In the impact of the landing gear Devastator. The organic sales growth in repair and Engineering was 8% as demand. Remains strong for our airframe mro activities and we continue to drive efficiency to increase throughput.
Sean: Adjusted Eva of 26.7 million with 6% lower than in the same period last year with the adjusted Evita margins, decreasing to 12% from 13.1%.
These decreases were primarily driven by higher costs at our New York component repair facility as we complete the integration and progress toward fully closing it in Q1. Going forward, we expect to drive further margin expansion in this segment from the realization of product support synergies, continued rollout of our paperless hanger initiatives, and the capacity expansions that are in process.
Fourth quarter, adjusted, operating income of 23.3 million was also 6% lower than the same period last year and adjusted operating margins decreased to 10.5% from 11.5%.
These decreases were primarily driven by higher costs at our New York component repair facility as we complete the integration and progress toward fully closing it in q1.
Looking now to slide nine. Integrated Solutions adjusted sales increased by 10% year over year to 181.5 million. Note that adjusted sales are lower than our reported gap sales as we recognize $19 million in sales related to a previously exited Power by the Hour contract.
Sean: Going forward we expect to drive further margin expansion in the segment from the realization of product support synergies continue to roll out of our paperless hanger initiatives and the capacity expansions that are in process.
Looking now to slide 9.
Sean: Integrated Solutions adjusted sales increased by 10% year-over-year to 181.5 million.
Consistent with previous terminated terminated contracts, we exclude the financial impact or benefit from our adjusted results. There was no margin on these We saw growth across both our commercial and government end markets with particular strength in our government program. Integrated Solutions Adjusted EBITDA of $14.2 million was 13% higher than the same period last year. Adjusted Operating Income of $10.7 million was 15% higher, with the Adjusted Operating Margin increasing from 5.6 to 5.9%.
Sean: Note that adjusted sales are lower than our reported Gap sales. As we recognize 19 million in sales related, to a previously exited powered, by the hour contract.
Consistent with previous terminated terminated contracts, we exclude the financial impact or benefit from our adjusted results. There was no margin on these sales.
Sean: We saw growth across, both our commercial and government and markets with particular strength in our government programs.
Integrated Solutions adjusted, Evita of 14.2 million was 13% higher than the same period last year.
Turning to slide 10 of the presentation. During the quarter, we reduced our net debt leverage from 3.06 in the third quarter to 2.72 times. This reduction was driven by strong Q4 cash flow from operations of $51 million, as well as net proceeds of $48 million from the Landing Gear divestiture. Additionally, in Q4, we did opportunistically repurchase $10 million worth of stock at an average price of $52.37 per share.
Sean: 15% higher with the adjusted, operating margin increasing from 5.6 to 5.9%.
Sean: Turning to slide 10 of the presentation.
Sean: During the quarter. We reduced our net debt. Leverage from 3.06 in the third quarter to 2.72 times.
Sean: This reduction was driven by strong Q4 cash, flow, from operations, of 51 million, as well as net proceeds of 48 million from the landing gear Devastator.
in Q1, given the seasonality of the business, investment opportunities, we do expect a Q1 cash. Our reduced net leverage provides us increased optionality for capital allocation going forward. Our strong balance sheet has us well positioned to invest organically and to potentially pursue a value accretive acquisition. Absent any M&A, which remains part of our growth strategy, we would expect to continue to de-lever and achieve our target net leverage of two to two and a half times in fiscal year 2026.
Additionally, in Q4 we did. Opportunistically repurchase 10 million worth of stock at an average price of $22.37 per share.
Sean: In q1, given the seasonality of the business and investment opportunities. We do expect a q1 cash use.
Sean: Our reduced, net leverage provides us. Increased optionality for Capital. Allocation going forward, our strong balance sheet has us well positioned to invest organically, and to potentially pursue a value accretive acquisitions.
With that, I will turn the call back over to Great, thank you, Sean.
Turning to slide 11, based on a strategy, these are our objectives for fiscal year 2026. We intend to continue expanding our market share and new parts distribution and parts supply. In repair and engineering, we will add capacity to our heavy maintenance network with our hangar expansion in Oklahoma City. We will also focus on cross selling opportunities to drive volume to our component services facility. Finally, we will look to convert our pipeline of opportunities in Integrated Solutions Government to new awards. We plan to continue to expand margins through cost efficiency and synergy realization, and we expect to complete the product support integration and realize the full $10 million in annual cost synergies throughout the year.
Sean: Absent any m&a which remains part of our growth strategy, we would expect to continue to de-lever and Achieve our Target. Net leverage of 2 to 2 to 2 and a half times in fiscal year 2026 with that. I will turn the call back over to John
John Holmes: Great. Thank you. Sean turning to slide 11 based on a strategy. These are our objectives for fiscal year 2026
John Holmes: We intend to continue expanding our market share in new parts distribution in Parts Supply in repair and Engineering we will add capacity to our heavy maintenance network with our Hangar expansion in Oklahoma City. We will also focus on cross-selling opportunities, to drive volume to our component Services facilities,
John Holmes: Finally, we will look to convert our pipeline of opportunities and Integrated Solutions government to new Awards.
We will also make progress on our implementation of paperless in our hangers. We have completed about one-third of our facilities to date, and we will continue to roll this out throughout the network through the balance of the year. All of this will lead to further margin improvement in our operation. Increasing intellectual property in our portfolio will also be a focus this year, which will principally be driven through digital investments and tracks to capture new customers and upgrade existing customers to the latest tracks option. We will continue to take a proactive and disciplined approach to accretive acquisitions and we will evaluate our portfolio for further optimization.
John Holmes: We plan to continue to expand margins through cost efficiency, and Synergy realization. And we expect to complete the product support integration and realize the full 10 million dollars in annual cost synergies throughout the year.
John Holmes: We will also make progress on our implementation of paperless in our hangers.
John Holmes: We have a completed about 1/3 of our facilities today and we will continue to roll this out throughout the network, through the balance of the year.
All of this will be to further margin improvement in our operations.
Increasing intellectual property in our portfolio, will also be a focus this year, which will principally be driven through digital Investments and tracks to capture new customers and upgrade existing customers to the latest tracks offerings.
Turning to slide 12 for context, as we look at the year ahead, we are providing some additional commentary on trends that we see in our selected end markets. As you saw throughout fiscal year 2025, our new parts distribution business grew 25% organically, which was significantly above market and we expect that above market growth to continue. In USM, we anticipate the market will remain dynamic during our FY26, but we remain well positioned in this space. In Airframe MRO, we expect to continue to operate at full utilization with the additional capacity that's already sold coming online in the second half of fiscal year 2026 and in fiscal year 2027.
We will continue to take a proactive and disciplined approach to accrete of Acquisitions and we will evaluate our portfolio for further optimization.
John Holmes: Turning to slide 12 for context. As we look at the year ahead, we are providing some additional commentary on trends that we see in our selected end markets.
John Holmes: As you saw throughout fiscal year 2025 our new parts distribution uh business uh grew 25% organically which was significantly above market and we expect that above market growth to continue.
John Holmes: And you USM, we anticipate the market will remain Dynamic during our FY 26 but we remain well positioned in this space.
In component services, we expect to fully complete the integration and the sites are well positioned for additional volume coming from cross selling. In integrated solutions, we have certain near-term headwinds driven by the Department of State cost reduction efforts, which we expect to impact the Iraq aviation operations under our WAAS contract, but we expect to offset those headwinds with growth in other programs and new business winds as the year progresses. and Digital tracks as a differentiated, high-margin, high-growth capability that will continue to be a major focus for us.
John Holmes: In airframe. Mro, we expect to continue to operate at full utilization with the additional capacity. That's already sold coming online in the second half of fiscal year 2026 and in fiscal year 2027,
John Holmes: In component Services, we expect to fully complete the integration and the sites are well positioned for additional volume coming from cross-selling.
John Holmes: An Integrated Solutions, we have certain near-term, headwinds driven by the Department of State cost reduction efforts, which we expect to impact the Iraq Aviation operations under a wasp contract. But we expect to offset those headwinds with growth and other programs and new business wins as the year progresses.
Given the overall macro environment, we will continue to provide guidance on a quarterly basis. Having said that, and based on what we see today, we expect our organic sales growth to approach the 9% level that we drove in fiscal year 2025. This growth rate is from our fiscal year 2025 adjusted sales of $2.68 billion, excluding the impact of the landing gear divestment. Additionally, we have an active pipeline of M&A opportunities that would augment this growth. I would also expect our adjusted operating margins to continue to improve from the 9.6% that we delivered in fiscal year 2025.
John Holmes: And digital tracks is a differentiated high margin, high growth capability that will continue to be a major Focus for us.
Given the overall macro environment, we we will continue to provide guidance on a quarterly basis. Having said that, and based on what we see today, we expect our organic sales growth to approach the 9% level that we drove in. Fiscal year, 2025 this growth rate is from our fiscal year, 2025 adjusted sales of 2.68 billion, excluding the impact of the landing gear investing
John Holmes: Additionally, we have an active pipeline of m&a opportunities, that would augment this growth rate.
For Q1, we expect sales growth of 6% to 11%, which excludes the impact of landing gear, which generated $19.2 million in sales in Q1 last year. We expect adjusted operating margin of 9.6% to 10%. I would note that Q1 is typically a seasonally slower sales quarter for AAR as compared to Q4.
John Holmes: I would also expect our adjusted operating margins to continue to improve from the 9.6% that we delivered in fiscal year 2025.
John Holmes: For q1, we expect sales growth of 6 to 11%, which excludes the impact of landing gear, which generated 19.2 million in sales in q1 last year.
We expected adjusted operating margin of 9.6% to 10%.
In closing, I would like to highlight the strength of AAR as a business and as an investment. We are well positioned at attractive, growing aviation end markets. We have unique capabilities that are unmatched across our industry. We are executing on our growth and efficiency initiative. We have simplified and optimized our portfolio to deliver stronger growth at higher margins. We are reducing that leverage and thoughtfully allocating capital, and we are delivering on our strategic objectives while generating consistent financial performance.
John Holmes: I would note that q1 is typically a seasonally slower sales quarter for a are as compared to Q4.
this and as an investment,
John Holmes: We are well, positioned and attractive growing Aviation and markets. We have unique capabilities that are unmatched across our industry. We are executing on our growth and efficiency initiatives.
Before turning it over to the operator for questions, I would like to thank our team of dedicated employees, our customers, and our shareholders for your continued interest and support of AAR.
John Holmes: We have simplified and optimized our portfolio to deliver stronger growth at higher margins. We are reducing that leverage and thoughtfully allocating capital, and we are delivering on our strategic objectives while generating consistent financial performance.
And with that, we'll open it up for questions. Thank you.
As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, to ask a question, please press star 1-1 on your telephone, then wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 1-1 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster.
John Holmes: Before turning it over to the operator for questions. I would like to thank our team of dedicated employees. Our customers and our shareholders, for your continued interest and support of their are. And with that, we'll open it up for questions.
John Holmes: Thank you.
Speaker Change: As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, to ask a question, please press star, 1 1 1 on your telephone, then wait, for your name to be announced.
Speaker Change: To withdraw your question. Please press star 1 on 1. Again, please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster.
Our first question comes from the line of Ken Herbert with RBC. Your line is open. Yeah, hey, good afternoon, John and Sean. Hey, just wanted to first ask the first quarter guidance for revenue growth implies a fairly wide range, typically larger than what you've given in the past.
Speaker Change: Our first question comes from the line of Ken Herbert with RBC yolen is open.
Speaker Change: Yeah. Hey good afternoon, John and Sean. Hey Ken
Can you just talk about the puts and takes in terms of how we should think about what puts you to the lower end of that versus the upper end of that in terms of the revenue growth in the quarter? Yeah, we have, you know, I would say it's somewhat due to the USM environment. We have some transactions that, you know, are larger that, you know, may move around a bit. Obviously, we have a really strong quarter there in Q4, and we're, you know, certainly anticipating growth in Q1, but it's largely based on that.
Hey, um, just wanted to first ask the the first quarter guidance, uh, for Revenue growth implies, a fairly wide range. Typically, larger than what you you've given in the past. Can you just talk about the puts and takes in terms of how we should think about, what put you to the lower end of that versus the upper end of that? In terms of the revenue growth in the quarter?
Speaker Change: Um, yeah, we have, uh, um, you know, I, I, I would say it's, you know, someone due to the USM environment, we have some, uh, some transactions that, uh, uh, you know, are larger that, you know, may move around a bit. Obviously, I'm in a really strong quarter there in Q4. And and we're, you know, certainly, anticipating growth in q1. But uh, it's, uh, it's largely based on that.
Okay, thanks.
And specifically within the repair and engineering segment, the step down and adjusted EBITDA margins in the quarter, can you just talk about maybe some of the moving pieces there and how we should think about the pace of improvement of that segment in particular as we think about fiscal 26? Yeah, the step down in the quarter related to margins and repair and engineering was really all around the closure or the final activities as part of closing the New York facility. So the volume has moved away from that facility into the two Triumph facilities in Kansas and Texas, but the fixed costs, you know, remained.
Speaker Change: Okay. Thanks. Um, and and specifically within the repair and Engineering segment, um, the step down and adjusted ebit to margins in the quarter. Can you just talk about maybe some of the moving pieces there and and how we should think about the pace of of improvement in that segment in particular as we think about fiscal 26.
So you had stranded costs in the quarter that impacted the margins. As we exit that facility in this quarter, we'd expect that to improve and then that headwind will be out of the results for the balance of the year.
Okay, that's great. And Sean, just finally on that, as you think about the full year, once you sort of normalize for that, and considering what you're getting, with the added capacity, I know you don't guide with too much granularity here. But, but as we look across the segments, where could we potentially see the most margin improvement in 26 across the various businesses? Yeah, I think repair and engineering has the most opportunity for incremental margin improvement. As we talked about now that the integration is, you know, substantially done, we'll expect to start achieving more of the synergies, the 10 million of synergies, and the hangers continue to perform extremely well.
Speaker Change: Yeah, the uh, the step down in the quarter related to uh, margins and repair, and Engineering was, was really all around the closure or the final activities as part of closing, the New York facility. So the volume has moved away from that facility into the 2 Triumph facilities in Kansas and Texas, but the fixed cost, you know, remained. So you had stranded costs in the quarter that impacted the margins. As we exit, that facility in this quarter, we'd expect that to improve and then that headwind will be out of the results, uh, for, for the, for the balance of the year.
Speaker Change: Okay, that's great. And Sean just finally on that as you think about the full year, once you sort of normalize to that and considering what you're getting with the added capacity. I I know you don't guide with too much granularity here but but as we look across the segments, where could we potentially see the most margin Improvement in 26 across the various businesses?
And we could see some additional throughput and margin there. So I think there's the biggest opportunity in repair and engineering. And then in part supply, I mean, Q4 was really, really strong. But I think for the full year, you would expect continued strong performance and growth out of that, which is which is the highest margin segment.
Perfect. Thanks. Nice quarter.
I'll pass it back there. All right, thanks again.
Yeah, I I think repair and Engineering has the most opportunity for incremental margin Improvement as we talked about. Now that the integration is, you know, substantially done. We'll expect to start achieving more of the synergies, the 10 million of synergies and the hangers continue to perform extremely well and we could see some additional throughput and and margin there. So I think there's the biggest opportunity in repair and engineering. And then in part supply, I mean Q4 was really, really strong but I think for the full year you would expect continued strong performance and growth out of that which is, which is the highest margin, uh, segment.
Please stand by for our next question.
Speaker Change: Perfect, thanks. Nice quarter. I'll pass it back there.
Speaker Change: Great. Thank you again.
Our next question comes from the line of Louis DiPalma with Wim Blair. Your line is open.
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John and Sean. Hi, good afternoon. John, you disclosed that Trax has recently crossed the $50 million revenue threshold and you also announced the marquee win with Delta along with prior wins with Virgin Atlantic and Marriaget and Rolls-Royce, so my question is with all of this momentum and the plans to launch the supplier portal? What is like the long term view of like track revenue potential and how do you view the TAM for track? Yeah, so first of all, we're very proud to have doubled the revenue of Trax from the 2020 from the $25 million two years ago when we acquired it to about the $50 million today.
Our next question comes from the line of Louie De Palma with William Blair. Your line is open
Speaker Change: John and Sean. Hi good afternoon.
Speaker Change: Um John you you disclosed that tracks as recently um crossed the fifty million dollar Revenue threshold and you also announced um the Marquee win with Delta along with prior wins with Virgin Atlantic and marriage at and and Rolls-Royce. And so my question is with all of this
Speaker Change: Momentum and the plans to launch the supplier portal, what is like the long-term view of like, Traxxas Revenue potential and how do you view the The Tam for for tracks?
The wins that we've been announcing continue to add to that growth. Delta is the most significant. It is a multi-year implementation, so it'll take a few years to get up to full runway, but that will be a meaningful increase to Trax's revenue. Based on the momentum that we've got with new business wins as these contracts are implemented and ramped, and based on the other initiative that we've talked about, which is upgrading existing Trax users to the new suite of Trax services, which carry with it additional revenue opportunity, our goal is to, again, double the revenue of Trax.
And we're excited about all those opportunities.
Speaker Change: We've been announcing, uh, continue to add to that growth. You know, Delta is the most significant, it is a multi-year implementation, so it'll take a few years to get up to few to full runways, um, but that will be a, a, a meaningful, uh, increase to tracks as Revenue. Um, you know, based on the momentum that we've got with new business wins is these contracts are implemented in ramp, um, and based on the other initiative that we've talked about, which is upgrading existing tracks users to the new suite of track services, um, which carry with the additional Revenue opportunity. Uh, our goal is to again, double the revenue of, of tracks. Um,
Great.
And for Sean, are there significant costs associated with the launch of the supplier marketplace that you mentioned in the slide presentation? And should that launch take place this year? Great.
Speaker Change: Uh, and and we're excited about all those opportunities.
Speaker Change: Great. And and and for, for Sean are there, um significant costs associated with the launch of the, the supplier Marketplace that you mentioned in the slide presentation and should that launched take place this year?
And one final question. I can probably do the math, but what was the most recent growth rate for the Triumph business? And now it's going to be included as part of your organic growth. And so what's the most recent growth rate? Yeah, so the growth rate, and it's all organic now, because it was fully in the result of Q4 of last year. So when you think about the repair and engineering segments, it grew 8%, excluding landing gear, and the Triumph product support business contributed to that 8%. So we saw growth in both the airframe MRO, and the Triumph product support.
Speaker Change: Yeah. Uh there are costs associated with that. And we've talked about we've, you know, grown tracks as Revenue, very nicely. Uh since acquiring the business we have added costs to the business. It's still high margin but we've added some cost to support the growth, uh, as well. And then part of that is some new digital initiatives. Specifically some of this you know supplier portal that we're working on uh and would expect those costs. Uh, in this year, uh, in this fiscal year as we roll it out and hopefully kind of make some announcements throughout the year.
Speaker Change: Right. Um, and 1 final question. Um,
Speaker Change: I I can probably do the math, but what was the
The most recent um growth rate for the the Triumph business. And now it's going to be um included as part of your organic growth and so what what's the most recent growth rate?
And we do want to get away from kind of breaking out the TPS sites versus the non TPS sites, because at this point, now that the integration is complete, and we've wrapped the call it inorganic period, it's all just part of the growth, which will show up in the repair and engineering segment.
Okay, and one final one. What is The expectation for the amount of time that it will take to fill the Oklahoma City and Miami hangars. Yeah, demand for those facilities, I guess, it's already sold, that capacity is already sold. So as soon as the building is ready, we have customers eager to put aircraft into work. And so as a reminder, we anticipate the Oklahoma City site to come online in calendar Q1 2026. And we would expect the Miami facility to come online in the third calendar quarter of 2026.
Yeah. Um, so the growth rate and it's all organic now because it was fully in the results of Q4 of last year. So when you think about the repair and Engineering segments, uh, it grew 8% excluding landing gear, and it and and the trial product support business contributed to that 8%. So we saw growth in both the airframe mro and the tri of product support and we do want to get away from kind of breaking out the TPS sites versus the non TPS sites. Because at this point now that the integration is complete and we've lapped the, call it inorganic period. It's all just part of the growth which will show up in the repair and Engineering segment.
Speaker Change: okay, and I 1 final 1, um, what is
Speaker Change: The expectation for like the amount of time that it will take to um to fill the the Oklahoma City and and Miami hangers.
Sounds good. Thanks, John. Thanks, Scott. Thank you.
Yeah, demand for those facilities. I guess uh it's already sold uh, that capacity is already sold. So, um, as soon as the building is ready, uh, we have, uh, customers eager to put aircraft into work. And so as a reminder, we anticipate the Oklahoma City site to come online and uh calendar q1 2026, and we would expect the Miami facility to come online in the third calendar, quarter of 2026,
Speaker Change: Sounds good.
Please stand by for our next question.
Speaker Change: Thanks John. Thanks John.
Speaker Change: Thank you.
Our next question comes from the line of Scott Mikus with Melius Research. Your line is open. John, Sean, very nice results.
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Our next question comes from the line of Scott micas with Milius research yolen is open.
I wanted to drill down into part supply. Growth is very strong at 17%. I was just kind of wondering if we could parse that out by commercial new parts, commercial USM and defense. And then also, did you see any airlines potentially over ordering parts in the quarter to try and get ahead of tariffs? Yeah, good question. So, you know, distribution led the way this quarter with another quarter of, you know, 20% plus growth. And as we mentioned, we saw that, we saw that throughout the year. So distribution has really been the driver there. We did not see significant activity, you know, that would indicate, you know, kind of stocking up for distribution, it was relatively, you know, even order flow.
Scott Micas: John John very nice results. Um, I wanted to drill down into Parts Supply. The growth is very strong at 17%. I was just kind of wondering if we could parse that out by commercial new Parts, commercial USM and defense. And then also do you see any airlines potentially over ordering parts in the quarter to try and get ahead of tariffs?
Scott Micas: Yeah, good question. Um, so uh, you know, distribution led the way, uh, this quarter, um, with another quarter of, you know, 20% uh, plus growth. And as we mentioned, we saw that, uh, we saw that throughout the year. Um, so distribution has really been the driver there. Uh, we did not see uh, significant activ.
If anything, we actually saw a decline in shipments to certain of our Chinese customers as a result of, you know, the tariff behavior there early in the quarter. But, you know, other airlines around the world, we didn't see any abnormal behavior. So that's, you know, that that led and then within distribution, you've had a relatively even split in terms of growth in the commercial market and the government market. And we've been really pleased to see a return to growth in government distributions in the last couple of quarters.
Okay, that's helpful. And then also in part supply margins, you called out some margin benefit from a whole asset sale that came through in the quarter. Was that specific transaction unusually high margins? Or should we assume that part supply is a low teens margin business with potential to be mid high teens, there's a healthy flow of USM? Yeah, I'd say that's a safe assumption. You know, that's whole asset transactions are part of the USM business and the margin varies depending on the cost obviously in sale of the whole asset transactions. So, you know, again, that's part of the activity.
Scott Micas: See a return to growth in government distribution in the last couple of quarters.
Okay that's helpful. And then also in part to buy margins you called out to margin benefit from a whole asset sale that came through in the quarter.
Scott Micas: Was that specific transaction, unusually high margins, or should we assume that Parts Supply? Is a low teens margin business with potential to be mid High? Teens. There's a healthy flow of USM.
We hadn't seen many whole asset transactions throughout the year because that material was not available. We were happy to get a few of those across the finish line in Q4. And I think what that demonstrates is, you know, there is supply, there is demand, and we're in a good position in the market to match those things up and achieve growth.
Okay, and then a quick one for Sean. Sean, it looks like you're going to get back into your target leverage range relatively soon. So absent any incremental M&A in the back half of your fiscal 26, you think about potentially restarting the dividend or doing more regular share repos. Yeah, good, good question. When we think about capital allocation, it's obviously getting in that leverage range, which you referenced, there's still a lot of opportunity to invest in the business organically, you heard about kind of multiple ways to do that. And then the M&A piece is kind of next on our capital allocation, to the extent that that materializes, you know, we would kind of hold off on number four, which is around shareholder.
Scott Micas: Yeah, I I say that's the safest assumption. Um, you know, that's whole asset transactions are part of the, the USM business and the margin varies, uh, depending on the the cost, obviously in sale of the whole asset transactions. Um, so, uh, you know, again, that's part of the activity. Uh, we hadn't seen many whole asset transactions throughout the year because that material is not available. We were happy to get a few of those across the finish line and, and, and Q4, and um, I think what that demonstrates is. Uh, you know, when there is Supply, uh, there is demand and we're in a good position in the market to, uh, to match those things up and Achieve growth.
Okay. And then know a quick 1 for Sean. Sean, it looks like you're going to get back into your target leverage range relatively soon. So absent, any incremental m&a in the back half of your fiscal 26 you're thinking about potentially restarting, the dividend or doing more regular share repos
But if we didn't, and we got towards the low end of the leverage range, I think repurchase is where we would choose to put capital rather than bring in a dividend back in. We have authorization outstanding on the existing authorization. As I mentioned, we did 10 million early in the quarter when there was some weakness in the stock price. So I think that would be the lever for capital return.
If we got leverage back down towards the lower end Thanks for taking the questions and nice quarter.
Scott Micas: Yeah, good. Good question. Um, when we think about Capital allocation, it's oboli getting in that leverage range, which you referenced, there's still a lot of opportunity to invest in the business organically you heard about kind of multiple ways to do that. Uh, and then you have an a piece is kind of next on our Capital, allocation, to the extent that that materializes, you know, we would kind of hold off on on number 4, which is around shareholder. But if we, we did, and then we got towards the low end of The Leverage range. I think repurchases, where we would choose to put Capital rather than bring in a dividend back in. We have authorization outstanding uh on the existing authorization as I mentioned we did 10 million uh early in the quarter when there was some, uh, weakness in the stock price. So I think that would be the lever for Capital return. Uh if we got leverage back down towards the lower end,
Thank you very much.
Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Leshock with KeyBank Capital Markets. Your line is open. Hey, good afternoon, everyone. I wanted to ask the long term vision of the USM business, you know, maybe as we look three to five years down the road. Clearly, it's an important part of the total business. But just looking at the strong growth opportunities within other segments. Do you see USM coming down as a percent of sales over the long term? Or how are you thinking about that relative to the growth of other businesses?
Speaker Change: All right, thanks for taking the questions and nice quarter.
Thank you very much.
Please stand by for our next question.
Our next question comes from the line of Michael Lee shock with keybanc capital markets your line is open.
Yes, that would be the answer. You know, we've been mixing USM down over the last couple of years. And it's a great business. It's the original business that founded AAR. But for all the reasons I just mentioned in the last question, you know, it's a dynamic business and you have these moves. So we've been focused on investing in businesses with a better line of sight to growth and the ability to consistently, to more consistently produce margin expansion and, and consistent cash flow. And so I think I think USM is 15% or less of the portfolio today.
Michael Lee: Hey, good afternoon everyone. Um, I wanted to ask the long-term vision of the USM business, you know, maybe as we look 3 to 5 years down the road, um, clearly it's a important part of the total business but just looking at the strong growth opportunities within other segments. Um, do you see USM coming down as a percent of sales, over the long term, or how, how are you thinking about that relative to the growth of other businesses?
And as we grow other businesses, we would, you know, we expect that percentage is as a total to continue to come down. And you know, then, having said that, though, the parts business in general, particularly distribution are just a major focus with us. We are extremely proud of the momentum that we have in new parts distribution. We've really emerged as the largest independent provider of new parts distribution. The fact that we have the scale now and this momentum is getting us more and more opportunities with potential OEM partners. And so we really see a lot of space for for growth there.
Michael Lee: Uh, yes, that would be the answer. Um, you know, we've been mixing USM down, uh, over the last uh, last couple of years and um, it's a great business. It's the original business that founded a are. But for all the reasons I just mentioned in the last question, um, you know, it's, uh, it's a dynamic business and you have these moves. So, um, we've been, uh, uh, we've been focused on investing in businesses with a, uh, you know, ah, ah, ah, you know, better line of sight to growth and the ability to consistently to more consistently produce margin expansion and uh and consistent cash flow. Um, and so I think I think USM is 15% or less of the portfolio today. Uh, and as we grow other businesses, we would, um, you know, we expect that percentages as a total, uh, to continue to come down.
So in terms of parts growth, that's really where the focus.
Okay, and then on tracks with the Delta agreement, you touched on it a bit, but I'm curious if there's any way to frame, you know, the size of this opportunity relative to the current customer base within tracks or any way you're thinking about that outside of what you said. Appreciate it. Thank you. Yes, the Delta implementation will occur over a multi-year period, and there are different phases as it ramps up to maturity. But, you know, obviously we're spending a lot of time talking about it because it will be a meaningful single-customer addition to Trax. But I would also mention, and I touched on this earlier, that as we upgrade existing Trax customers from legacy Trax to the new suite of offerings under EMRO and eMobility, that in and of itself carries significant revenue upside.
And, you know, then having said that though, uh, the parts business in general, particularly distribution are just a, a, a major focus with us. Um, we are extremely proud of the momentum that we have in new parts distribution. Uh, We've really emerged as the largest independent um, provider of new parts distribution. The uh the fact that we have the scale now and this momentum is getting us more and more opportunities with potential OEM partners. And so, we really see a lot of space for, uh, for growth there. So, in terms of Parts, uh, growth that's really where the focus is
Speaker Change: Okay. And then, on tracks with the Delta agreement, you touched on it a bit, but I'm curious if there's any way to frame, you know, the size of this opportunity relative to, um, the current customer base, within tracks or any way you're thinking about that, um, outside of of what you said, uh, appreciate it. Thank you.
To be more specific, you might have a legacy Trax user that, you know, pays a $200,000 or $300,000 a year annual license fee. When they choose to upgrade to the new Trax system, which comes with much more functionality and options for them, you know, that license fee can increase by four or five times. And so off of the existing base, as we move legacy Trax customers to the new offering, you can see a, you know, pretty significant growth just from that base, which is already established. Very helpful. Appreciate it. Thanks, guys. Thank you.
Talking about it because it it will be a meaningful single customer addition to tracks. But I would also mention and I touched on this earlier that as we as we upgrade, uh, existing tracks customers from Legacy tracks, to the new suite of offerings under emro and e-mobility that in and of itself, carries significant Revenue, uh, upside um, to be more specific. You might have a a legacy tracks user that, um, you know, pays a a 2 or thousand dollars a year annual license fee. Um, when they choose to upgrade to the new track system which comes with much more um functionality and options for them, uh, you know that license fee could increase by 4 or 5 times. And so off of the existing base, as we move Legacy tracks customers to the new offering, uh, you can see a uh, you know, pretty significant growth just from um, from that base which is already established.
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Speaker Change: Very helpful. Appreciate it. Thanks guys.
Thank you.
Please stand by for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Sam Struxaker with Troy Securities. Your line is open. Hey, good evening, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Unver Mike Ciarmoli.
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Speaker Change: Our next question comes from the line of s Sam. Struck sacred with truist Securities. Your line is open.
I was wondering, could you guys give a little more detail on the Kira JV and just kind of the potential scale there? Yeah, we signed that JV to give us access to a certain market in the DOD and take advantage of their past performance. That contract is a decent contract. It's relatively modest in size, but the important part of that JV is that we're able to team with Cura to bid on certain types of contracts that AAR would not be able to bid on on our own and take advantage of their past performance. So it's a nice, I would say, you know, kind of modest vector for growth for us.
Hey, good evening guys, thanks for taking the question on for Mike, Troy.
Speaker Change: um, I was wondering could you guys um give a little more detail on the Kira JV and just kind of the potential scale their
Got it. Nice. Thank you.
Speaker Change: Uh, yeah we um uh, we signed that JV to give us access to a certain Market, um, uh in uh, in the dod and take advantage of their past performance. Um, that contract is a decent contract. It's um, you know, relatively modest in size but the important part of that uh, JV is that we're able to to team with Keira to bid on certain types of contracts at AAR would not be able to bid on on her own and take advantage of their their pass before us. So it's uh uh it it it's it's a nice. Uh I would say you know kind of modest Vector for growth for us
Next one, I guess, obviously, you guys called out, you know, the capacity in the hangars that are going to come on in the future is already sold out. So, it seems like you have a pretty good line of sight there in terms of demand, but we've also seen some of the airlines Delta talk about potentially bringing down capacity, and we've seen some declines in outside maintenance spending. So, I was just curious if you guys have any change in your view on that, or if you've seen any signs from that kind of early read or anything there.
Yeah, great, great question. And the answer is our core customers have consistently reaffirmed their demand for our services. We've really in the heavy maintenance business positioned ourselves as the absolute top choice in North America for heavy maintenance. And so, where we might see some of our competitors see some decline as a result of those capacity cuts, et cetera, our core customers have been very straightforward with us. That they'll remove maintenance work from others long before they would remove it from us. So, we're feeling quite secure in our position and the demand for airframe MRO. Sounds good, guys.
Speaker Change: Got it. Nice. Thank you. Um, next 1, I guess obviously you guys called out, you know, the capacity in the hangers that are going to come on, on in the future is already sold out. So it seems like you have a pretty good line of sight there in terms of demand. But we've also seen some of the Airlines Delta talk about the country. You bring it down capacity and we've seen some declines in outside maintenance spending. So I was just curious if you guys have any change in your view on that or if you've seen any signs from that kind of early reads or anything there.
I'll leave it at that. Thanks. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm showing no further questions in the queue.
Speaker Change: Yeah, great. Great question. And the answer is, uh, our core customers. Um have uh uh consistently reaffirmed, their demand for our services. We've really in the heavy maintenance business uh positioned ourselves as the absolute Top Choice in North America for heavy maintenance. And so um, you know, where we might see some of our uh competitors. Uh, see some decline as a result of those capacity, Cuts Etc. Uh, our core customers have have, you know, been very straight forward with us. That they'll remove, um, they'll remove maintenance work from others, uh, long before they would remove it from us. So we're feeling quite secure in our position and the demand for airframe mro.
Speaker Change: That sounds good guys. I'll leave it at that. Thanks.
Great. Thank you.
Thank you.
I will now like to turn the call back to management for closing remarks. Great. Once again, we want to thank everybody for your time and interest, and we look forward to discussing our first quarter results in September. Thank you.
Speaker Change: Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Sean. No further questions in the queue. I will now like to turn the call back to management for closing remarks.
Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
Great. Once again we want to thank everybody for your your time and interest and um we look forward to discussing our first quarter results in um in September, thank you.
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