Q2 2025 Cadence Bank Earnings Call
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Speaker Change: Good morning and thank you for joining the Cadence Bank. Second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. We have members from our executive management team here with us this morning. Dan Rollins, Chris Bagley, Valerie Tolson, and Billy Braddock.
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Dan Rollins: And now, I'll turn to Dan for his opening comments.
Dan Rollins: Good morning, thank you for joining us today to discuss our second quarter results.
Speaker Change: I could not be prouder of our team and the results we are producing. I will cover a few highlights. Valerie will provide some additional detail on the financials. After our prepared, comments, our executive management team will be available for questions.
Speaker Change: It was an active quarter for Cadence both organically. And for m&a on the m&a front, we announced our acquisition of Industry Bank shares on April, the 25th,
Speaker Change: we then completed our acquisition of First chatam Bank effective, May the 1st and we closed the industry transaction on July the 1st, the announcement to close timeline. For industry was 67 days, which followed the 99 day announced to close timelines for first chat. These achievements are the results of a tremendous amount of collaboration between the teams at each of the target Banks. And with the various regulatory bodies. We are excited about the opportunity to expand our presence in Georgia and Central Texas. We welcome these teammates and customers to the Cadence family.
Speaker Change: Regarding the second quarter results. We continue to perform exceptionally well, adjusted net income. From continuing operations increased to 137.5 million or 73 cents per share and adjusted Roa was 1.14% for the quarter, our balance sheet growth, drove a meaningful increase in revenue, and our adjusted efficiency rate.
Speaker Change: Ratio improved by 90 basis points to 56.7%.
Speaker Change: Our loan growth. Once again, highlighted the strength of our footprint, we achieved organic loan growth of 1.1 billion for the quarter or 12.6% annualized. The growth came across our geography, and nearly all verticals with the highest growth coming out of Texas.
Speaker Change: Our Community Bank, corporate bank, private banking and mortgage teams. All reported nice organic growth for the quarter, and our pipelines are strong and growing
Speaker Change: Our core customer deposit, balances also showed growth, which offset some intentional, runoff, and brokered, and a seasonal decline in public fund. Balances organic core customer deposits increased at a 4.4% annualized rate with the largest portion of this growth in non-interest-bearing, deposits.
Speaker Change: finally, our tangible Book value continued to improve increasing to 22.94 per share and Regulatory Capital levels, remain strong with cet1 of 12.2%,
Speaker Change: Now, let me turn the call over to Valerie and she can get into the weeds and the details for our financials Valerie. Great. Thank you. Dan to add the dance comments. Our pre-tax pre-provision net revenue for the second.
Speaker Change: quarter increase to an all-time high of 206 million up over 8% from the prior quarter driven by the balance sheet growth at Dan mentioned, combined with strong fee income performance and improved operating Leverage
Speaker Change: Average loans were up a little over 800 million in the quarter. While period in loans grew by 1.4 billion. A billion 1 in organic growth and close to 400 million from the first chattam acquisition.
Speaker Change: we also added just over 500 million in deposits from first chattam in the quarter, in addition to our organic core customer deposit growth of 376 million
Speaker Change: These increases were partially offset by declines of 437 million in brokerage deposits and 300 million in public funds.
Speaker Change: Our period, end non-interest bearing deposits. As a percent of total deposits actually increased this quarter to 22.6%.
Speaker Change: Average deposits were down which is not unusual for the second quarter as seasonal runoff earlier in the quarter. Was offset by growth in the latter, part of the quarter.
Speaker Change: Our second quarter total adjusted Revenue was strong at 476 million, an increase of 28 million or 6%, net interest Revenue, increased 15 million or 4%, as a result of the loan. Robust loan growth, as well as added securities.
Speaker Change: We added about 2 billion in Securities in the late first quarter in early second quarter funded by federal Home Loan Bank term borrowing.
Speaker Change: These Securities, added nice Revenue but did result in a slight dip in the net, interest margin in the quarter.
Speaker Change: The Nim declined, 6 basis points in the second quarter to 3.40%.
Speaker Change: and before considering the impact of the added Securities, the quarter's Nim actually increased 2 basis points as the trends in our earning asset yields and cost of funds were favorable
Speaker Change: load yields were 6.34% and a quarter of 1 basis point for the first quarter and new and renewed loans in the quarter came on the books that just over 7% which is well north of the total portfolio yield
Speaker Change: Total cost of the deposits. Also improved by 5 basis points, link quarter to 2.30% and time deposit costs improved by 12 basis points, as new and renewed time. Deposits in the quarter came in over 30 basis points, lower than the total portfolio rate.
Speaker Change: Adjusted non-interest Revenue reflected great performance really across the board, increasing 13 million, or 15% compared to the first quarter.
Speaker Change: We had another big quarter in mortgage originations and the MSR evaluation adjustment approved as well.
Speaker Change: Our wealth management teams also had a good quarter benefiting from improved market conditions, as well as seasonal tax revenue.
Speaker Change: And finally other non-interest Revenue increased just over 7 million, a combination of several items including strong credit and customer SWAT fees SBA income Federal Home Loan Bank dividends and Bully income.
Speaker Change: Adjusted not interested, expense increased 11.7 million, linked quarter. Mostly As a result of the closing of first chat, I'm combined with costs associated with business growth and strong operating performance.
Speaker Change: Salaries and employee benefits increased just over 4 million about half about related to FCB, and the rest mostly due to increases in commissions and share-based payment approvals.
Speaker Change: Data processing, increased 3.6 million, partially impacted by higher business and project volumes. And we occurred incurred, a seasonal increase in our advertising and PR expense.
Speaker Change: Legal costs were up. 4.6 million driven by final resolution of a legal matter. And the decline in other miscellaneous expense of over 5 million was due to fraud and loss recoveries.
Speaker Change: And lower Consulting and Regulatory expenses.
Speaker Change: Turning to credit on slides, 9, and 10, net charge us for the second quarter were 21 million or 24 basis points annualized, which is down slightly from the first quarter and consistent with expectations.
Speaker Change: Non-performing loans decline just under 5 million link quarter while non-performing assets increase about 2.
Speaker Change: All in all a stable linked quarter, we did see an increase in criticized and classified loans. Linked quarter due to a handful of credits, but the balance is continued to remain within historical ranges.
Speaker Change: The loan provision was 31 million reflecting the day 1 provision of just over 4 million associated with acquired loans as well as the impact of loan growth in the quarter.
Speaker Change: Our allowance for credit loss coverage, remained flat, linked quarter at 1.34%.
Speaker Change: 16, we believe our strong balance sheet continues to be very well positioned.
Speaker Change: As a quick update on industry Bank shares, we did close the transaction effective July 1st 2025. And as you may recall, industry had a sizable Municipal portfolio.
Speaker Change: Once we closed, we immediately sold a large majority of that portfolio liquidating 1.9 billion of Securities and continuing to hold just under 600 million.
We have since used that 1.9 billion in liquidity to reinvest in 1 billion of Securities yielding just over 5 foot a quarter percent with the remaining 900 million used to lower wholesale funding.
Speaker Change: Additionally, we put on about 550 million in notional. Interest rate swaps to minimize any residual interest rate volatility in these Securities that remained on our balance sheet.
Speaker Change: Finally, we have updated our guidance on slide 17 to reflect both the acquisition of first chat and Industry.
We continue to expect solid loan demand for the latter, half of the Year bringing full year loan growth, including the acquisitions.
To between 11 and 15%.
Speaker Change: This combined with full year, core customer deposit growth of between 12 and 15% supports our expectation for total revenue growth between 10 and 12%.
Speaker Change: We forecast continued operating, leverage with expenses, increasing between 7 and 9% in support of the growth, in the balance sheet, and continued investment in our future.
Speaker Change: Combined with stable credit. We expect these results will continue to drive strong EPS performance for us throughout the rest of this year.
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Speaker Change: The first question today comes from Casey hair, from autonomous research. Please go ahead.
Casey Hair: Thanks, good morning. Can you guys hear me?
Speaker Change: Good to hear from.
Speaker Change: Good to hear from you guys. Sorry, it's been a little bit choppy so I apologize if I'm in and out, but uh, I guess first off, um, wanted to touch on the knee and the restructure. Um, it's it feels like the the margin can be bound to the mid 340s given what you did with um, with the industry. Uh, restructuring just wondering if I'm missing anything or just some help on the margin guide and then also are you guys
Speaker Change: Have you uh is there any more restructuring to be done with the on the side? Uh uh balance sheet. Thanks.
Speaker Change: Yeah, on the industry piece, you know, we've done what we wanted to do. We we certainly could the best a few more of those Securities that we have that opportunity. But right now, that's not on the top burner valer. You need to go through all the Nim.
yeah, there's there's obviously, a lot of living Parts particularly with the Acquisitions but um, where we, um, ended up with the repurchases, you know, of the industry security, 527, when you combine that with the, um,
Speaker Change: The low yields, the new lows coming on north of 7% and some of the rate pricing expectations that we have for the other portions of the portfolio that we have in our slide deck. Um as well as the fact that our new CDs are coming in well, south of where the um the maturity maturing CDs are coming in. We expect some continued Improvement there. So if we're actually very optimistic about the negative margin and anticipate that
Speaker Change: Would increase as we go through the rest of the year.
Speaker Change: Yeah, we we knew that what we did at the end of the first quarter beginning of the second quarter, bring on borrowings and and buying the bonds was going to negatively impact them. But positively impact, right?
Speaker Change: And so actually I I hope you caught it basically that the impact of that was a negative 8 basis. Points has, if you just kind of set aside those Securities purchases as margin would have actually increased in that quarter by a couple of days points.
Speaker Change: M&a, activity picking up.
Can I speak up? We have noticed a lot of talk, a lot of talk, a lot of activity. He's the first thing, small transactions, a couple larger than what we've obviously done. Yeah I think what we've said when we announced the industry transaction earlier in the year was we thought we could get this transaction done quickly? Uh, we think we're in a position to continue to execute. We we like the footprint that we serve, we like the 9 states that we're in. We're looking for opportunities to continue to grow in those States. And and and we think we'll have future opportunities.
Great. Thank you.
Speaker Change: Appreciate it.
Speaker Change: The next question comes from Menan. Gilia with Morgan Stanley, please go ahead.
Menan Gilia: Hey, good morning. Hey, good morning all. Um, can you provide some more color on? Uh, the increase in the revenue guide, um, you know, the, uh, the the the differences in the, in the old guide and the new guide on the loan and deposit side were were particularly helpful. So, I was wondering if uh, you know, the revenue guide is going up um on an organic basis as well. Um and um on the Acquisitions base, if you can just help us with some of the assumptions around purchase accounting.
Yeah, so let me take a little bit of that and I'll just have to jump in here and help, but I think from the, your question on is the guide up on an organic basis. Yes, you know. So we saw a tremendous long growth in the quarter, the pipelines are good Billy and Chris can talk about that, you know, we we really feel good about where we sit some of that footprint. Some of, that's our team, just doing an outstanding job, we're bringing new customers into the bank, all of that moves, the guy up so that the increased guide on on lung growth that's going to produce, you know, organic Revenue growth that you're seeing uh, in the increased guy there. When you're talking about purchase accounting, marks, we're we're early in, we're 24 Days, Inn from when we did that go ahead. Yeah, yeah. So that's, you're exactly right. We'll be, um, obviously reporting more on that as we go. But I guess just for a little color just um, initially, and I'm speaking more to the industry. When the first chat was was really pretty small, the grass game and things. Um as far as work to the county works on industry on the security is particularly, I think in
Menan Gilia: the uh,
Menan Gilia: in the announcements, we assumed at 2 and a half percent. Um,
Menan Gilia: Liquidity Market, some of those Securities. We're actually able to dispose of those security, but less than half of that. So, we're coming in much better on that front. We are supposed to be billion 4. We went to a billion 9. Yeah. Yeah, we all in in Sudan's Point uh we assume that we're holding less ongoing so again. Um, last page we'll Book value is packed from back.
Menan Gilia: Transaction itself. The other piece is, you know, the deposit pieces are fairly close to the market values, you know, like loans, there wasn't too much of a um, a margin there. And they refined that obviously over the next several weeks. But I would say all in all probably a little bit better on some of those marks than what we had originally estimated.
Um, yep. And and uh, as as my follow-up just on the lawn side, um, I mean long road is is is fairly strong uh, value. I think I heard you mentioned, the new launch are coming on at a little over 7%, so that might be a little bit of an improvement versus last quarter. Um, and then if, if I look at the, um, the fixed rate and variable rate loans on slide 12, those have also repriced up nicely. Uh, but the overall loan yields were up only 1 basis point. Uh, q1q, um, is, is there something that, um, you know, we, we, we might be missing their on, um, on on the purchasing outing or or anything related to the Acquisitions there.
Menan Gilia: yeah no it really has you know the loans that pay down loans that pay off the
Menan Gilia: Tiny estimate. Those types of things are really what impacted that, uh, we did dig into that as well because, um, to your point all the underlying
Menan Gilia: Support items, um, would lead to a higher loan yield. So that's part of what drives our expectations for a higher netage margin as we go through the rest of the year is continuing to see, um, good pipelines. That are Level portfolio. Continuing to have good uh performance from where those rates are coming in. Uh as we look out through the rest of the year.
Menan Gilia: Got it. Thank you.
Appreciate your time.
Speaker Change: The next question comes from Catherine Miller with KBW, please go ahead.
Catherine Miller: Thanks, good morning.
Hey, good morning, Catherine.
Catherine Miller: um, just
curious to kind of back to the loan growth, which was
Fourth quarter, you talked about um you know, pay Downs, impacting some of your, your period and balances and it seems like that's getting better. Just can you talk a little bit about
kind of original new origination volumes versus paid on activity and and what you're seeing with both of those and kind of your thoughts on on that balance as we get into the back half of the Year particularly with maybe some rate Cuts, thanks
Catherine Miller: Yeah, you can see where we didn't grow as in the CRA book. And that's the where we saw some paid apps. Really? You jump in here.
Yeah, hey Katherine. So
Catherine Miller: In the first quarter, we saw a lot in the merchant real estate portfolio from a pay down standpoint and from our Midstream energy. Um
We saw that.
Catherine Miller: Kind of slow. Um well at the same time continuing really good origination particularly in the mystery of energy that space. We've all the backfilled um the payoffs that have occurred really over the last 6 quarters in that space. That's been a recurring thing. Um, on top of that we just had water spread success, I mean our cni teams across the footprint, all had some success, our private banking team has significant success and a lot of that contributed to some hiring that we did last year and and the teams being able to capitalize on that. So the pay down activity with more robust in the first quarter, specifically in that larger Merchants CRA and mid-stream space. And that was curtailed at 5 months and pipelines continue to be widespread at a robust. The
Catherine Miller: Lower activity. Um, with all the, you know, since this time last quarter, we were feeling more uncertain, um, I think there's still some thoughts of that, but, you know, borrowers talking to their vendors and clients they've been able to, um, formulate a strategy. And the long pipelines are remaining as strong in the pull through, from our approvals is is
Similar to what it's been. It's just the pipelines are stronger. So can you think of Chris jump in? Well, I guess just to add to that. There really is a loan growth. Has been broad diverse both geographies lines of business, Community Bank mortgage plus healthy this quarter. So if you really got it from all the orders, it was a good quarter for that.
Catherine Miller: Okay, great.
Speaker Change: Great. And then um are your accretion with industry with selling more of the bonds um than originally expected. It would is there any change to your expectations for the accretion just with that nuance?
With the, um, a little bit less, but of course you're upfront impact to your attentional. Okay, gets left. So, uh, net, net is but but not Material. Yeah, it is not, it's not usually material. We're still looking at, um, you know, a pretty meaningful impact to our ABS. We look out of it as fast as this year, the difference in what we would have been earning on the box that we held versus the 5.177%
Speaker Change: Less than 500 basis points on a portion of that security. That's really important. Thank you again.
Speaker Change: That makes sense. And then, of course off. Also with the, with the loan growth being better, you're reinvesting rates, probably higher, too than maybe you would have expected, okay?
Yeah, we talked about, we talked about wanting to grow loans, you know? And within the industry footprint, a billion dollars over over the next 5 years and and we did that in organically in 1 quarter. So clearly the loan growth is a big difference for us. Yes, for sure.
Okay, great. Thank you.
Jared Shaw: The next question comes from Jared Shaw with Barkley. Please go ahead.
Speaker Change: Hey Jared. Good morning.
Speaker Change: Um,
Speaker Change: you may be shifting to the, uh, to the other side of the balance sheet, just the deposit growth. Uh, you know, that the strength in that, that core deposit, origination and, and especially on the DDA side, you know? As we, as we look out, should we think that there's still
Speaker Change: Sort of steady growth in in ddas here. Or is there any, um,
Uh, you know, any sort of 1 time beyond the deal benefit from from DDA growth.
Speaker Change: Yeah, I think the teams are doing a great job of, you know, mixing it up in the community and trying to bring business into us. I don't know that 1 order is something that we can say, this is a trend that we're on but we certainly like what we look, what we saw.
Speaker Change: Okay. And then on, on the CDs, you talked about the, uh, renewal rates coming in lower where, where are those now and is there more room for, uh, for CD cost to to move lower, assuming, uh, stable rates.
yeah, so um I think there is you know, right now we saw in
Speaker Change: 25 got about 5.4 billion that are maturing uh, really right about 4% so depending on where those come back on, um, but how many we're paying, you know, there is an opportunity to continue to see, a little bit of um, compression in that overall amount. This assumption is a greater stable, I think. Yeah,
Speaker Change: We rights are saying.
Speaker Change: I can't, we've got
Speaker Change: 2 rate Cuts later in the year in our forecast. And so if those set of fruition then um you know, there's further opportunity there obviously
Speaker Change: Okay. Uh, thanks. That's, that's a good color on that and then just, uh, on credit, you know, credit overall, good Trends, just any anything you would call out on the criticizing classified. Migration. That's um, either lumpy or episodic.
Speaker Change: No, I can't cuttly maybe a little 22 million or so, that was part of the first, add merger. So that was in the increase. Most of the increase in criticized was a special mention. I would call it normal range, normal process of working, through credits, and our normal processes because it's really, really, really those select few larger credits that moved in there along with the first chapter.
Thank you. Call the back up with your your comment on the deposits. You know, the other thing that we've got um the significant focus with our treasury management team. And uh so they continue to ramp up their efforts and I think that's part of what we're seeing and 7 of the success that we've had. And so we would hope for more success there. As we go through the rest of the Year. And thank you going forward, we're adding a lot of branches and new products, they're going to have a basically, like a 6 months. So we're excited about things.
Speaker Change: Thanks.
Jared Shaw: Thanks Jared.
The next question comes from Michael rose. With Raymond James, please go ahead.
Michael Rose: Hey, good morning everyone. Thanks for uh, taking my questions. Um, just just 2, quick ones, any change into beta expectations either on the loan or deposit side with with industry? And then would would that have any um kind of material change to the interest rate? Uh, sensitivity profile. Thanks.
Michael Rose: Thanks sensitivity profile. The bond portfolio. As industry has an ability to move in great sensitivity but we've worked on that until I saw that. No, I was like, um, no significant changes on the datas, um, you know, we'll be offering our products and services and so I think that over time everything will just kind of work into a little bit. Um,
Michael Rose: Consistent with some of the Legacy efforts. There may be a little bit of movement in the first quarter or so, but I don't think that'll be ongoing. Um, as far as the right, you know, really pretty consistent interest sensitivity. We continue to remain pretty neutral on that, um, and then, you know about 150 days, went through the plus minus 100.
Speaker Change: Okay, great, thanks Valerie. Um and then maybe just final. I I know you get to buy back in place. You got a lot of deals going on. Um I I wouldn't expect that you'd be using it here. Maybe just holding out for other opportunities. Is that, is that the right way to think about it? Just, you know, it's a tool at this point but not really looking to use it. Thanks.
Speaker Change: Yeah, I think we've said that when we announced the industry transaction is, you know, we we we knew with that transaction. We needed to continue to build Capital. So you know, unless something drastic changes here, I think for this quarter I don't think we'll be doing very much there.
Speaker Change: All right, thanks for taking my questions.
Speaker Change: The next question comes from John Armstrong. With RBC Capital markets, please go ahead.
Speaker Change: Thanks, good morning, good morning. Hey, um, back back to Long growth. Um,
Speaker Change: Do you get would you guys call the pace of growth in the second quarter?
Speaker Change: abnormal at all, in terms of
Speaker Change: What you expect going forward? I mean, it, was it a rebound or catch up from the uncertainty in the first quarter is this
Like a, like a real change in demand, where this is a realistic pace of growth.
Speaker Change: Yeah, I think that's the for a while. I think what we saw post, you know, Liberation day. It was people took their foot off the accelerator and our question marks about all this money on out there. I think that's just catching back up with us and no, I don't know that this was that long. I think, when we look at what's coming through, you know, just watching the flow, we're as busy as we've ever been.
Speaker Change: You know, like yeah, that's right. I mean
John, I touched on it but our kind of our weekly
Speaker Change: Volumes that we're seeing come through are as high as they've been in over a year. Um,
Speaker Change: And that's continued, you know.
Speaker Change: Let's open up, you can see some downward volume impact via purchase Builders moving to things out. That is a little slower, but that could impact volume to look forward. But the pipelines are good at the uterus Nations.
Speaker Change: Okay good. Um,
Speaker Change: Dan a question for you on Texas, uh, industry.
I think will take your Texas deposit the the your share up to 35% of total deposits.
Speaker Change: Um, the approach in Texas, is that right? Is that the right number?
Speaker Change: Uh, that's a verify that some to it. You got any question, they're pulling. It's just the the question is are do you have to do anything in different in Texas, or is it just kind of business as as usual because it's obviously a much much larger piece of your franchise?
Speaker Change: Than it has been you know, over the last several years. Yeah yeah. So we're at 37% of deposits in Texas with this but but we're higher than that with loans in Texas. So you know I I think the answer is no, we we continue to see outside growth when we look at our footprint and you see where growth is coming from, Texas continues to drive that growth, the high growth markets of Georgia Florida, Tennessee. Continue to add to us. But frankly, we're seeing growth across our footprint, Texas? Just continues to lead.
Speaker Change: Um, just last 1, Valerie for you on the expense range.
Speaker Change: Um, is it safe to assume the higher under the range is?
Aligned with a higher end of your loan growth. Or is there something else that we need to think about in terms of expenses that that higher or lower end of your range?
Speaker Change: Now the higher end tends to align with higher revenues. You know they were associated costs associated with that.
Speaker Change: So that would drive that. Yep. Okay. All right. Thank you very much.
Hey, thanks. John.
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The next question comes from Ben gerlinger with City, please go ahead.
Hey, good morning.
Speaker Change: Hey, good morning been
Speaker Change: uh, it seems like prior to this week every bank that operates with a sec football school in their state is highlighted
growth through hirings.
and they're putting out numbers and it seems like, I mean like you guys have always had a little bit of a different strategy but with the footprint that you have
I mean, I know you're doing both at the same time, but is could we see an outsized level of hiring from potential or even are already announced acquisitions?
Speaker Change: Or is it more? So just kind of filling in letting the operation because you now have these 2 deals to integrate? How should we think about the organic perspective of of hiring and Loan growth over the next year or 2?
Yeah, we we've not gone out and hired big teams of people that's just not been in our past practices. Uh, we continue to hire good people so I mean we've added in Texas, we've added in Georgia. We've had you know, we've added across our footprint in multi Florida um over the last several quarters. But those are 1 and 2. Um, the Acquisitions that we've got we've not lost any of those people if you're asking. So I think on the other side and I think we've got good people that are out there, wanting to grow business. And and I think we've got capacity to grow with the team that we have today.
Speaker Change: Got you, that's helpful and then just from a modeling question, Valerie. I know you said,
Speaker Change: Marks were a little bit smaller so dilution should be a little bit less.
And it originally had 8 and a half on TVV. Is that, is that fair to think it's less than that at this point? Or is it still to minimize?
Speaker Change: I don't know, we have a number to put out today. Yeah, so I think that we'll be obviously working on. We're buying all of that as we go through the quarter. Um, but overall I mean, I would just say that we still anticipate regardless for the number to move. Um,
Speaker Change: That it's just growing up. Yeah, great acquisition. So yeah, so the the earnings version was significant here.
Speaker Change: Gotcha. Yeah. No. I appreciate it. Okay, thank you.
The next question comes from me with Stephen, please go ahead.
Speaker Change: Yeah. Thanks. Good morning. Just similar to Ben's last question, on on the industry, impacting the third quarter, any color on the capital ratios, and when these could look like at September 30th with the impact of Industry on their
And we understand it's a big transaction, they could move the needle. So we hope to be able to um you know, as we're out on the road that may be filed some investor deck that would give us some mid quarter update to some of that.
Okay, thank you. That's all from me.
Speaker Change: Thanks, Matt, appreciate the time.
This concludes our question and answer session, I would like to turn the conference back over for any closing remarks.
Speaker Change: Hey, thank you all very much for joining this morning. Since we brought up the SEC with college football, only 29 days away. We're glad that we finished the first half of 2025 uh, here at Cadence. And we had a great first half, but we continue to report growth and Improvement in many of our operating metrics, including earnings per share, Roa, operating efficiency, just the name of you. I, I continue to be very confident that we've achieved both organically and through strategic Partnerships in Texas and Georgia that, we positioned ourselves to continue that momentum through the second half of 2025, and it sets us up in a position of strength, for 2026, we appreciate everybody's support on our call today. This concludes the call. We look forward to seeing you all again soon.
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