Q2 2025 BRC Inc Earnings Call
Speaker 4: Greetings and welcome to the Black Rifle Coffee Company second quarter earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Matthew McGinley, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you, sir. You may begin.
Black Rifle Coffee Company. Second quarter earnings call at this time. All participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question. Answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone to require operator assistance, during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this copper is being recorded.
Matthew McGinley: Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining Black Rifle Coffee Company's second quarter 2025 financial results conference call. We released our results yesterday, and the press release and related materials are available on our Investor Relations website at ir.blackriflecoffee.com. Before we begin, I would like to remind you of the company's safe harbor statement regarding forward-looking statements. During today's call, management may make forward-looking statements, including guidance and the underlying assumptions. These statements are based on expectations that involve risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ materially. For a further discussion of these risks, please refer to our previous filings with the SEC. Additionally, this call will include non-GAAP financial measures such as adjusted EBITDA; whenever we refer to EBITDA, we mean adjusted EBITDA unless otherwise noted.
It is not my pleasure to introduce your host Matthew, McGinley vice, president of investor relations. Thank you, sir, you may begin. Good morning everyone and thank you for joining Black Rifle coffee companies, second quarter, 2025 Financial results conference call, we released our results yesterday and the press release and related materials are available on our investor relations website at IR do Black Rifle coffee.com.
Before we begin, I would like to remind you of the company Safe, Harbor statement, regarding forward-looking statements.
During today's call management may make forward-looking statements including guidance. And the underlying assumptions. These statements are based on expectations that involve risks and uncertainties which could cause actual results to differ materially.
Matthew McGinley: Reconciliation of non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are included in our earnings release, which was furnished to the SEC and is available on our Investor Relations website. Now, please refer to the presentation on our Investor Relations website and turn to slide four. I would now like to turn the call over to Chris Mondzelewski, CEO of Black Rifle Coffee Company. Chris?
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Reconciliation of non-gaap measures to the most directly comparable. Gaap measures are included in our earnings release, which was furnished to the SEC and is available on our investor relations website.
Now, please refer to the presentation on our investor relations website and turn to slide 4.
Chris Mondzelewski: Thanks, Matt. Good morning, everyone. Joining me today are Evan Hafer, our Executive Chairman; Matt Amee, our new Chief Financial Officer; and Matthew McGinley, our Head of Investor Relations. As we enter the second half of the year, I want to acknowledge our team here at Black Rifle Coffee Company. Over the past year, we've taken meaningful steps to build a more disciplined and resilient organization, tightening execution, investing in critical capabilities, and preparing the business to scale more efficiently. That foundation enabled us to deliver results in line with our expectations this quarter, even as the macro cost environment became more challenging. As I noted last quarter, our organizational nimbleness has allowed us to navigate change and stay on course. We remain highly focused on positioning the business for long-term growth.
I would now like to turn the call over to Chris Monsey, CEO, Black Rifle Coffee Company. MS.
Thanks, Matt. Good morning everyone. Joining me today are Evan Hafer. Our executive chairman, Matt and me are new Chief Financial Officer in Matt, McKinley our head of investor relations.
As we enter the second half of the year, I want to acknowledge our team here at Black Rifle.
Chris Mondzelewski: We'll continue to expand our footprint with key retail partners to build momentum in both packaged coffee and ready-to-drink beverages, and to ensure that every dollar we invest in the brand drives meaningful, measurable impact. That includes leaning into what's working while staying disciplined in our execution and continuing to innovate. We're encouraged by the progress and confident in the opportunities that lie ahead. Let's move to slide six. During the second quarter, Nielsen data showed a modest decline in unit volume for the U.S. coffee category within the food, drug, and mass channels. Despite this, category sales grew, driven largely by pricing actions taken across the industry. Black Rifle Coffee Company significantly outperformed the category, delivering 32% sales growth on a 29% increase in unit volume, well ahead of the category's 9.6% sales growth and 1% decline in units.
Over the past year, we've taken meaningful steps to build a more disciplined and resilient organization. Tightening execution investing in critical capabilities, in preparing the business to scale more efficiently, that foundation and enabled us to deliver results in line with our expectations. This quarter. Even as the macro cost environment became more challenging. As I noted last quarter, our organizational nimbleness has allowed us to navigate change and stay. On course, we remain. Highly focused on positioning the business for long-term growth.
We're continuing to expand our footprint, with key Retail Partners to build momentum in both packaged coffee and ready to drink beverages.
and to ensure that every dollar we invest in the brand drives, meaningful, measurable impact
That includes leaning into what's working while staying disciplined in our execution and continuing to innovate. We're by the progress and confident in the opportunities that lie ahead.
Let's move to slide 6 during the second quarter. Nielson data, showed a modest decline in unit volume for the US, coffee category within the food, drug and mass channels
Despite this category Sales Group driven largely by pricing actions taken across the industry. Black rifles significantly outperformed the category, delivering 32%, sales growth, on a 29% increase in unit volume.
Chris Mondzelewski: Our distribution momentum continued this quarter with strong gains in grocery and mass merch retailers. In grocery, ACV increased by 19 percentage points year over year to reach 46.5%, while total ACV across all tracked channels rose 15 points to 56.6%. We continue to see significant room for expansion, both through new retail partnerships and by deepening our presence with existing customers. While we launched with a strong assortment at our largest retail customer, averaging 19 items on shelf and capturing 9.3% share in the bagged category, we typically begin with a smaller presence at new grocery and mass accounts. Our land and expand strategy is working as intended. We start with a few SKUs to establish presence, then grow assortments as performance warrants. We continue to see that play out across key accounts where strong velocities are translating into additional shelf space.
Well, ahead of the categories, 9.6% sales growth and 1% decline in units.
Our distribution momentum. Continued this quarter with strong gains, in grocery and mass merch retailers. In grocery ACV, increased by 19% each points year-over-year to reach 46.5%. While total ACV across all tracked, channels Rose 15 points to 56.6%
We continue to see significant room for expansion, both through new retail Partnerships and by deepening our presence with existing customers.
While we launched with the strong, assortment at our largest retail. Customer averaging 19 items on shelf and capturing 9.3% share in the bags category. We typically begin with a smaller Presence at new grocery and mass accounts.
Our land and expand strategy is working as intended.
Chris Mondzelewski: In addition to gains in grocery and mass, we have expanded in club and secured national distribution with the leading rural lifestyle retailer. These moves increase visibility, drive trial and repeat, and grow household penetration. Moving to slide seven, our direct-to-consumer channel remains a key pillar of our broader digital strategy, offering a direct connection to our most loyal customers and generating valuable insights that shape brand and product decisions. Whether purchasing directly from Black Rifle Coffee Company or through a digital retail partner, consumers have ample opportunities to have our products delivered to their door directly. While the majority of our recent growth has come from brick-and-mortar retail, I am pleased to report, consistent with what we have shared on prior calls, that our digital channel stabilization in the quarter returned to growth. In the second quarter, DTC revenue was 7.8% lower year over year.
We start with a few skus to establish presence then grow assortments as performance warrants. We continue to see that play out across key accounts, where strong velocity is our translating into additional shelf. Space. In addition to gains in grocery and mass, we've expanded in club and secured National Distribution with the leading rural lifestyle retailer. These moves increase visibility Drive, trial, and repeat, and grow household. Penetration moving to slide 7. Our direct to Consumer Channel remains a key pillar of our broader, digital strategy offering a direct connection to our most loyal customers in generating valuable. Insights that shape brand and product decisions.
Chris Mondzelewski: However, after adjusting for a $2.4 million loyalty reserve benefit that was recognized in the prior year, sales in the channel were actually slightly positive. We also saw strong growth across key third-party e-commerce platforms, underscoring our ability to capture demand in high-traffic digital marketplaces and meet consumers where they prefer to shop. We have made meaningful enhancements to both the subscription and non-subscription experience. Updates to our website and mobile app have improved usability, while backend improvements have enabled more precise merchandising and SKU optimization. For Coffee Club members, we have expanded perks, introduced prepaid subscription options, and launched a new brand portal featuring partner benefits and members-only gear. Our digital business remains a vital channel for fostering loyalty, testing new offerings, deepening customer relationships, and supporting our expansion with some of the nation's largest retailers. We are committed to evolving it in ways that drive long-term growth.
Report consistent with what we've shared on prior calls, that our digital channel stabilization in the quarter and returned to growth in the second quarter. DTC Revenue was 7.8% lower year-over-year. However, after adjusting for a 2.4 million loyalty Reserve benefit, that was recognized in the prior year sales in the channel were actually slightly positive. We also saw strong growth across key. Third-party e-commerce platforms underscoring. Our ability to capture demand and high traffic, digital marketplaces, and meet consumers, where they prefer to shop. We've made meaningful enhancements to both the subscription and non-subscription experience updates to our website in mobile app have improved usability. While back-end improvements have enabled more, precise merchandising and SKU optimization for coffee club members, we've expanded Parks introduced prepaid subscription options, and launched a new brand portal featuring partner benefits.
Chris Mondzelewski: On slide eight, our ready-to-drink coffee business continues to outperform the broader category. In the second quarter, we delivered 7% sales growth in a category that declined 4%, according to Nielsen. Unit volume for Black Rifle Coffee Company was up 9%, while category units fell 6%, a clear testament to the strength of our brand and our ability to grow in a contracting market. We've maintained our position as the third-largest ready-to-drink coffee brand in the U.S., and during the quarter, we expanded ACV by six points year over year to reach 53.5%. While we've made meaningful progress, we're still in the early stages of realizing the full opportunity, with approximately half the market still available to be penetrated. Similar to our bags and pods business, we will continue to drive outsized growth through new retail partnerships and expanded shelf presence with existing customers. Slide nine.
And members-only gear, our digital business remains a vital channel for fostering loyalty, testing new offerings. Deepening customer relationships, and supporting our expansion with some of the nation's largest retailers and we're committed to evolving it in ways that drive long-term growth on slide 8, our ready to drink coffee business, continues to outperform the broader category in the second quarter. We delivered 7% sales growth in a category that declined 4% according to Nielsen.
Unit volume for Black Rifle was up 9%. While category units fell 6%,
Chris Mondzelewski: We've made strong progress in the launch year of Black Rifle Energy and are pleased with its momentum building at retail. Since launching in January, distribution has steadily expanded, and by the end of the second quarter, the product was available in over 15,000 retail locations, reaching 23% ACV. While the energy drink category is highly competitive, the early traction gives us confidence in the brand's ability to continue gaining shelf space and driving sales. We're executing a disciplined rollout in partnership with Keurig Dr. Pepper and their national direct store delivery network, supported by marketing efforts aimed at building awareness and trial, particularly in the convenience channel, where the energy drink category is most active. Our entry into energy is grounded in clear consumer data.
Clear testament to the strength of our brand and our ability to grow in a contracting market. We've maintained our position as the third largest RTD coffee brand in the U.S., and during the quarter, we expanded ACV by 6 points year-over-year to reach 53.5%. While we've made meaningful progress, we're still in the early stages of realizing the full opportunity, with approximately half the market still available to be penetrated, similar to our bags and pause business. We will continue to drive outsized growth through new retail partnerships and expanded shelf presence with existing customers. Slide 9: We've made strong progress in the launch year of Black Rifle Energy and are pleased with its momentum building at retail since launching in January. Distribution has steadily expanded, and by the end of the second quarter, the product was available in over 15,000 retail locations, reaching 23% ACV. While the energy drink category is highly competitive, the early traction gives us confidence.
Chris Mondzelewski: The majority of our coffee customers also purchase energy drinks, and a significant portion of our digital audience engages with the brand, even if they don't drink coffee. We see this as a natural extension of our brand and a compelling long-term growth opportunity, one that expands our reach, adds consumption occasions, and brings new consumers into the franchise. We're encouraged by the early results and excited about what's ahead. Finally, I want to take a moment to highlight the work we continue to do at the intersection of brand, mission, and service, a focus that remains central to who we are. For Evan, myself, and our organization, this serves as the long-term bellwether of what truly defines Black Rifle. In the second quarter, we deepened our engagement with the communities that define our brand: service members, veterans, first responders, and their families.
confidence in the brands ability to continue gaining shelf space and driving sales. We're executing a disciplined roll out in partnership with Keurig Dr. Pepper and their National direct store. Delivery Network supported by marketing, efforts, aimed at building awareness and trial particularly in the convenience Channel where the energy drink category is most active. Our entry into energy is grounded in clear consumer data.
The majority of our coffee customers also purchase energy, drinks and a significant portion of our digital audience engages with the brand, even if they don't drink coffee, we see this as a natural extension of our brand and a compelling. Long-term growth opportunity 1 that expands our reach, adds consumption occasions and brings new consumers into the franchise. We're the early results in excited about what's ahead. Finally, I want to take a moment to highlight the work. We continue to do at the intersection of brand Mission and service. A focus that remains Central to who we are for Evan myself, in our organization, this serves as the long-term bellweather of what truly defines Black Rifle.
And the second quarter, we deepened our engagement with the communities that Define our brand.
Chris Mondzelewski: From major Fourth of July activations at Fort Campbell and Camp Lejeune, where we supported tens of thousands of military families, to events commemorating the Army's 250th birthday, to on-the-ground disaster responses in Kerrville, Texas, our team showed up in meaningful ways. In Kerrville, we remained on site for several weeks following severe flooding, distributing hot coffee, thousands of cans of Black Rifle Energy and ready-to-drink coffee, and offering support to first responders working through a challenging recovery. This work isn't about marketing or optics; it's about impact. It's about showing up when and where we're needed and standing behind the people who represent the very best of our country. That sense of purpose continues to drive our brand forward. It's what makes Black Rifle more than a beverage company; it's what makes us a community.
Service members, veterans, First Responders, and their families for a major Fourth of July activations at Fort Campbell and Camp Lejeune, where we supported tens of thousands of military families.
To events commemorating the Army's 250th birthday to on the ground disaster. Responses in Kerrville Texas. Our team showed up in meaningful ways,
Chris Mondzelewski: Before we dive into the financials, I also want to take a moment to welcome Matt McGinley, our new Chief Financial Officer. Matt brings nearly 30 years of experience in the consumer packaged goods industry. He's been with us for just under a month, but he's hit the ground running, and we're excited to have him on board. With that, I'll turn it over to Matt to walk through the quarter.
And Kerrville we remained on site for several weeks, following severe, flooding Distributing, hot coffee, thousands of cans of Black Rifle, energy and RTD coffee, and offering support to First Responders working through a challenging recovery. This work isn't about marketing or Optics. It's about impact. It's about showing up when and where we're needed in standing behind the people who represent the very best of our country, that sense of purpose continues to drive our brand forward. It's what makes Black Rifle more than a beverage company. It's what makes us a community before we dive into the financials. I also want to take a moment to Welcome, Matt Ami, our new Chief Financial Officer. Matt brings nearly 30 years of experience in the consumer packaged Goods industry.
Matt Amee: Thank you, Matt. I've been a huge fan of Black Rifle since the business was founded nearly a decade ago, and it's a real honor to join this team. The brand has a significant opportunity for growth across packaged coffee, ready-to-drink, and energy, and multiple other channels. I'm excited to be part of that momentum and help support the team as we scale this business together.
A month, but he's hit the ground running and we're excited to have him on board with that. I'll turn it over to Matt to walk through the quarter.
Matt Mcginley: I'll begin my remarks on the quarter with slide 11. Second quarter net revenue increased 7% year over year, driven primarily by growth in the wholesale segment. We are cycling a net $3 million impact from prior year barter transactions and a $2.4 million benefit related to a change in loyalty reward accruals recognized in the second quarter of 2024. Excluding these items, second quarter revenue increased 14%. Our wholesale segment, which primarily sells packaged coffee and ready-to-drink beverages to retail, grew 14% year over year. Adjusting for the $3 million in non-recurring revenue in the prior year, sales in this segment increased 21% in the second quarter. Growth was led by strong performance from Black Rifle Energy, as well as new distribution gains and expanded shelf presence in grocery and mass merchandise retailers. Revenue in our direct-to-consumer segment was 8% lower in the second quarter.
Thank you, Ms. I've been a huge fan of Black Rifle since the business was founded nearly a decade ago, and it's a real honor to join this team. The brand has a significant opportunity for growth in packaged coffee, ready-to-drink, energy, and multiple other channels. I'm excited to be part of that momentum and help support the team. As we scale this business together, I'll begin my remarks on the quarter with slide 11. Second quarter net revenue increased 7% year-over-year, driven primarily by growth in the wholesale segment. We are cycling in a net $3 million impact from prior year barter transactions and a $2.4 million benefit related to a change in loyalty rewards recognized in the second quarter of 2024. Excluding these items, second quarter revenue increased 14%. Our wholesale segment, which primarily sells packaged coffee and ready-to-drink beverages to retail, grew 14% year-over-year.
In non-recurring Revenue in the prior year sales in this segment, increased 21% in the second quarter.
Growth was led by strong performance from Black Rifle Energy, as well as new distribution gains and expanded shelf presence in grocery and mass merchandise retailers.
Matt Mcginley: Excluding the $2.4 million impact from the prior year loyalty rewards accrual change, revenue in this segment increased modestly.
Matt Amee: Our focus remains on ensuring that Black Rifle products are available wherever our consumers shop, whether it's in brick-and-mortar retail or online platforms like blackriflecoffee.com, Amazon, or walmart.com.
Matt Mcginley: While we will continue allocating resources towards the wholesale channel, we are encouraged by the progress we have made in stabilizing our direct-to-consumer business. The outpost segment grew revenue by 11.3%, driven by higher franchise fees and an increase in average order value, supported by enhanced merchandising and more effective bundling strategies. Slide 12. Gross margin was 33.9% in the second quarter, reflecting a 790 basis point reduction compared to the prior year. The decrease was primarily driven by a 430 basis point impact from green coffee inflation, a 290 basis point impact from trade and pricing, and a 160 basis point impact related to the change in loyalty reward accruals. These margin pressures were partially offset by 170 basis points, a benefit from productivity gains and more favorable product mix. Slide 13.
Revenue in our direct to Consumer segment was 8% lower in the second quarter. Excluding the 2.4 million impact from the prior year. Loyalty Rewards. A cruel change Revenue in this segment, increased modestly, our Focus remains on, ensuring the Black Rifle products are available wherever our consumer shop, whether it's in brick, and mortar retail, or online platforms like Black Rifle coffee coffee.com, Amazon, or walmart.com. While we will continue, allocating resources towards the wholesale Channel. Where the progress we've made in stabilizing our direct to Consumer business. The Outpost segment grew Revenue by 11.3% driven by higher franchise fees, and an increase, in average order value supported by enhanced merchandising and more effective bundling strategies, slide. 12 gross margin was 33.9% in the second quarter reflecting a 790 basis point reduction compared to the prior year. The decrease was
Primarily driven by a 430 basis. Point impact from green coffee inflation. A 290 basis. Point impact from trade and pricing
Matt Mcginley: Given the ramp-up in wholesale distribution, seasonal factors, and the timing of the trade and advertising spend, we anticipated that both revenue and EBITDA would be more heavily weighted towards the back half of the year. In the second quarter, gross margin pressure, partially offset by higher volume, contributed to a $5.1 million decline in adjusted EBITDA from the same period last year, bringing the total to $2.4 million for the second quarter. Operating expenses were relatively flat compared to the second quarter last year and did not have a material impact on the change in adjusted EBITDA. Our quarter-end headcount was approximately 20% lower year over year, resulting in lower salaries, wages, and benefits. We largely reinvested those savings into marketing to support growth.
and 160 basis point impact related to the change in loyalty reward across these margin. Pressures were partially offset by 170 basis points of benefit from productivity gains and more favorable product mix slide 13 given the ramp up in wholesale distribution, seasonal factors and the timing of the trade and advertising spend, we anticipated that both revenue and ibida would be more heavily weighted towards the back half of the year in the second quarter, gross margin pressure partially offset by higher. Volume contributed to a 5.1 million decline in adjusted ibida from the same period last year, bringing the total to 2.4 million for the second quarter. Operating expenses were relatively flat compared to the second quarter last year and did not have a material impact on the change in adjusted ibida, our quarter end headcount was approximately 20% lower year-over-year, resulting in lower salaries wages and benefits.
Benefits.
Matt Mcginley: General and administrative expenses increased 31%, primarily due to legal costs related to matters resolved after quarter end and higher depreciation tied to capitalized software, both of which are added back in the calculation of adjusted EBITDA. Moving to slide 15. We are maintaining our full-year revenue guidance of $395 million to $425 million. We continue to expect a sequential step-up in revenue throughout the year, driven by ongoing distribution gains in both packaged coffee and energy, as well as targeted marketing and trade investments to drive brand awareness and repeat purchases. While the step-up remains on track, current pacing implies that we may finish towards the lower end of the range. As a reminder, we are cycling $30.4 million of prior year revenue that was driven by one-time factors and not expected to recur in 2025.
We largely reinvested those savings into marketing to support growth.
General and administrative expenses increased 31%, primarily due to Legal costs related to matters. Resolved after quarter end and higher depreciation tied to capitalized software, both of which are added back in the calculation of adjusted ibida. Moving to slide 15. We are maintaining our full year Revenue, guidance of 395 million to 425 million.
We can continue to expect a sequential Step Up in Revenue throughout the year driven by ongoing distribution gains in both packaged coffee and energy as well as targeted marketing and trade Investments to drive brand awareness and repeat purchases.
Matt Mcginley: This represents a $5.8 million headwind in the second quarter and is expected to have a $3.6 million impact in the third quarter. We continue to expect full-year gross margins in the range of 35% to 37%. We delivered 35% in the first half and expect a modest improvement in the second half as pricing and productivity gains help partially offset the new impact of tariffs. Since the U.S. does not have geographies suitable for large-scale coffee production, we import the majority of our green coffee from Central America, Colombia, and Brazil. We have flexibility to shift purchases between origins if pricing becomes unfavorable. As we noted on the last quarter's call, tariff-related cost pressures were incremental to our original expectations on gross margin and adjusted EBITDA. We indicated last quarter that both metrics would likely fall below the midpoint of our full-year guidance ranges, and that remains our expectation.
Matt Mcginley: Key drivers of the margin outlook compared to the prior year include at least 300 basis point headwind from green coffee inflation net of pricing actions, a 250 basis point impact from incremental trade investment behind the energy line, and a more normalized promotional cadence. At least 100 basis point margin impact from recently implemented import duties with the full effect expected in the second half. These pressures are expected to be partially offset by at least 200 basis points of productivity initiatives and a more favorable product mix. Looking ahead to 2026, we have secured approximately 40% of our expected coffee needs through forward purchase agreements and will continue to lock in additional supply through the end of the year. If green coffee spot pricing remains stable, we expect it to have a neutral impact on gross margins in 2026, representing neither a material headwind nor tailwind.
The modest Improvement in the second half is pricing and productivity. Gains help, partially offset, the new impact of tariffs. Since the US does not have geography suitable for a large-scale coffee production. We import the majority of our green coffee from Central America, Colombia and Brazil. We have flexibility to shift purchases between Origins, if pricing becomes unfavorable. As we noted on the last quarter's, call tariff related cost, pressures were incremental to our original expectations on, gross margin and adjusted ibida. We indicated last quarter that both metrics would likely Fall below the midpoint of our full year, guidance, ranges and that remains our expectation. Key drivers of the margin Outlook compared to the prior year include at least 300 basis. Point headwind from green coffee inflation, net of pricing actions
A 250 basis point impact from incremental trade investment behind the energy line, and a more normalized promotional Cadence.
At least 100 basis point margin impact from Recently implemented import duties with the full effect suspected in the second half, these pressures are expected to be partially offset by at least 200 basis points of productivity initiatives. In a more favorable product. Mix looking ahead to 2026. We've secured approximately 40% of our expected coffee needs through forward, purchase agreements and we'll continue to lock in additional Supply through the end of the year. If Green Coffee Spot pricing remains stable, we
Matt Mcginley: We remain focused on improving gross margins through productivity initiatives that we continue to work on across our supply chain, and will evaluate further adjustments for our pricing architecture, consistent with actions taken by other packaged coffee manufacturers. For adjusted EBITDA, we are maintaining our full-year guidance of $20 million to $30 million. We remain focused on driving operating leverage by tightly managing gross profit and expenses to ensure we can scale efficiently while supporting the long-term growth of the business. We remain on track to achieve $8 million to $10 million of annualized cost savings from organizational efficiency initiatives launched this quarter. Subsequent to quarter end, we raised $40.25 million in gross proceeds through an equity offering of our Class A common stock.
Expected to have a neutral impact on Gross margins. In 2026 representing neither a material headwind nor Tailwind. We remain focused on improving gross, margins through productivity initiatives that we continue to work on across our supply chain and will evaluate further adjustments to our pricing architecture, consistent with actions, taken by other packaged coffee manufacturers.
Matt Mcginley: While the capital will ultimately support the continued rollout of the energy portfolio, the immediate use of the proceeds was to retire outstanding balances on our revolver. We were impressed with the quality of the investor base brought in through the raise and expect the offering to enhance trading liquidity going forward. In addition to strengthening our balance sheet, this also helps mitigate potential risks to our investment and growth plan as we look to 2026, particularly if coffee prices or tariffs were to move unfavorably and result in at least $1 million of interest expense savings this year. Before we move to Q&A, I want to thank both the internal team and our external partners and investors for the warm welcome and continued support. I am grateful for the opportunity to step into this position and join a company with a strong foundation and meaningful growth ahead.
For adjusted Eva. We're maintaining our full year, guidance of 20 to 30 million, we remain focused on driving operating leverage by tightly managing gross profit and expenses to ensure we can scale efficiently while supporting the long-term growth of the business. We remain on track to achieve 8 to 10 million dollars of annualized cost savings from organizational efficiency. Initiatives launched this quarter, subsequent to quarter end. We raised 40.25 million in Gross proceeds, through an equity offering of our class a common stock. While the capital will ultimately support the continued roll out of the energy portfolio. The immediate use of the proceeds was to retire outstanding balances on our revolver. We were impressed with the quality of the investor base brought in through the Rays and expect the offering to enhance trading liquidity. Going forward, in addition to strengthening our balance sheet, this also helps mitigate potential risks to our investment and growth plan as we look to 2026 particularly if coffee prices or tariffs work to move.
Matt Mcginley: I believe deeply in the mission, the team, the strategy, and of course, the brand. I am excited about what we can accomplish together and look forward to what is ahead. Operator, we are now ready for the Q&A session.
Move on favorably and result in at least $1 million of interest expense savings this year before we move to Q&A, I want to thank both the internal team and our external partners. And investors for the warm welcome and continued support. I am grateful for the opportunity to step into this position and join a company with a strong foundation and meaningful growth ahead. I believe, deeply in the mission, the team, the strategy. And, of course, the brand, I'm excited about what we can accomplish together and look forward to what's ahead.
Operator. We are now ready for the Q&A session.
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Speaker 9: Thanks, guys. Good quarter. I wanted to ask you about the three-year outlook which you maintained in your presentation. It requires a pretty significant ramp in 2026 and 2027 versus the 2025 outlook. Can you talk about the key drivers to that? Is it Black Rifle Energy? Is it ready-to-drink? Is it more retail customers, more door per customers, more SKUs per door, et cetera? Just one of the building blocks to get that kind of ramp in 2026 and 2027. Thank you.
Thanks guys. Uh good quarter. Uh so I wanted to ask you about the 3 year outlook with which you maintained in your presentation uh it requires a pretty significant ramp in 26 and 27 versus the 2025 Outlook. Uh, can you talk about the, the key drivers to that it is is it you know? Is it energy? Drink? Is it ready to drink?
Uh, is it, you know, more retail, customers more door per customers, more skus per door Etc. Just just 1 of the building blocks to to get that kind of ramp uh, in 2026 and 2027. Thank you.
Chris Mondzelewski: Hey, Mike. It's Chris. Thanks for the question. Let me frame things up a little bit, kind of how we look at it strategically, and then I am going to kick it over to Matt here, who can elaborate a little bit on it. Yes, we are going to continue to maintain that guidance. I think when you look at our business right now, one of the things we are very proud of is that all aspects of our business are growing. While we do not give segment guidance at this point, every piece of our business, whether you are talking the pods, the bags, the ready-to-drink coffee, and of course, energy, which we launched this year, are growing for us, as is outpost, which was not growing a year ago.
1 of the things, we're very proud of is that all
Chris Mondzelewski: Then one of the ones we are most proud of, given some of the hard work we have done even driving efficiency, is our direct-to-consumer business. So when you look at our direct-to-consumer business as a whole, as you strip out the loyalty points, that is now growing for us as well. So with every segment of our business growing, while we are not going to give guidance on exactly where that 10% to 15% overall is going to come from, suffice to say that we have a lot of tools in our tool belt that we can pull from. You want to build on that at all?
Uh aspects of our business are growing. Well we don't give, you know, segment guidance at this point um every piece of our business, whether you're talking to pods the bags, the RTD coffee, and of course energy, which we launched this year. Um are growing for us as is outposts which was not growing a year ago. And then, you know, 1 of the ones where we're most proud of given some of the hard work, we've done even driving efficiency is our DTC business. So when you look at our DTC business, um, as a whole, as you strip out, the loyalty points that is now growing for us, as well. So with every segment of our business growing, while we're not going to give guidance on exactly where that 10 to 15% overall is going to come from, um, suffice to say that we have a lot of tools in our tool belt that we can pull from
Matt Amee: I would just say, Mike, that when you look at the ACV that we have right now across packaged coffee and ready-to-drink coffee, we still have a ways to go. We are sitting about 56% on packaged coffee and about 54% on ready-to-drink coffee. So we can expect anywhere from 80% to 85% ACV across FDM. As Chris Mondzelewski mentioned, direct-to-consumer, we are super happy with the performance in the second quarter, stabilizing the business in the second quarter, and then looking forward to making the right investments in that business to scale that business in a very efficient manner. We do see line of sight to the long-range guidance.
Right. You want to build on that at all? Yeah, I would I would just say Mike that you know, when you look at the ACV that we have right now across packaged, coffee and RTD, we still have a ways to go. So we're sitting about 56% on packaged coffee and about 54% on RTD so we can expect anywhere from 80 to 85% ACV across, you know, fdm. Uh, as mine's mentioned, we're we're super happy with the, uh, performance in the second quarter, uh, stabilizing the business in the second quarter. And then looking forward to making the right investments in that business to scale that business in a very efficient manner. So yeah, we do see, line of sight to the uh, the long range guidance.
Speaker 9: Okay, great. Makes sense. A couple more. I wanted to ask about Walmart. In your Q1, it was about, I think it was, what, 26% of sales versus 33% last year. So I guess that's good in that you're seeing some diversification, but there might be some routing in this, but it does imply down year over year. Can you talk about why that would be down? I don't know. I've been asked about this and I've seen it. We've seen Fire, I think it's called Fire Department Coffee advertised from Walmart. What's the line about you guys? Can you talk about the competition at Walmart?
Okay. Great makes sense. Uh couple more 1. I want to ask about Walmart in in your queue. It was about I think it was what 26% of sales versus 33% last year. So I guess that's good and that you're seeing some diversification but there might be some routing in this but it does imply down you over a year.
Can you talk about why that would be down? And I guess.
I've been asked about this and I've seen it. We've seen fire. I think it's called fire department coffee advertised from Walmart looks a lot like you guys can. Can you talk about the competition, uh, at Walmart?
Chris Mondzelewski: Let me address that. When we look at the overall sales within Walmart, the internal sales, that is going to move back and forth based on a number of factors, timing of shipments, et cetera. We have talked about, we lost one item last year in the canister, which has hit us. We are actually coming up lapping that. We are going to be going back into some regions with that item coming in Q3. But most importantly for us is takeaway, right? We look at the scanner takeaway in the Walmart stores because that is always what will predict future sales. The reality is, is we continue to be very strong in Walmart. Given the fact that we are in full distribution, there is no additional store count benefit that is going to come from Walmart.
Chris Mondzelewski: Yet, we continue to grow at near 10% in our takeaway or our store consumption with Walmart, which ultimately will lead, of course, to the internal revenue as well. A component of that is simply timing. The reality is, as we go into Q3, Q4, we are excited about some of the innovation that we are going to be pushing on top of all of the core items that have continued to do well there. We sit very bullish, very bullish with them continuing, obviously, our number one customer continuing to be by far our number one customer. Competition, we love competition. I think Fire Department's a great brand. I do not look at it as direct competition. We do not see any correlation of their success with us. We love the fact that they are a brand that was founded by a first responder. We know him.
Yeah, let me address that. Um, so when we look at the overall sales within Walmart, you know, the internal sales, you know, that's going to move back and forth. Based on a number of factors, um, timing of shipments, Etc. Um we have talked about, you know, we lost 1 item last year in the canister which you know, has hit us. We're actually coming up lapping that, um, we're going to be going back into some regions, um, with that item coming in Q3. But most importantly, for us is, um, takeaway, right? So we look at the scanner takeaway in the Walmart stores because that is always what will predict future sales? And the reality is, is we continue to be uh, very strong in Walmart. You know, given the fact that we're in full distribution, um, there is no additional store count benefit. That's going to come from Walmart, yet. We continue to grow at near 10% in our takeaway, or our store consumption with Walmart, which ultimately will, you know, lead of course.
Chris Mondzelewski: Again, I think for us, we are going to continue to play our game across every segment in grocery and in Walmart. We continue to be able to demonstrate growth at the register, which is what really counts, where that consumer takes it away. While the competition will always be fierce in these categories, we continue to believe that our distinctive brand positioning is protecting us well there.
Um, you know, to the internal revenue as well. So um a component of that is is is simply timing. And the reality is is, as we go into Q3 24, we're excited about some of the Innovation that we're going to be pushing on top of all of the core items that have continued to do. Well there. Um, we sit very bullish, very bullish with them continue. Obviously, our number 1 customer continuing to be, you know, by far our number 1 customer. Um, competition, you know, we love competition. I think, uh, fire department's, a great brand. Um, I don't look at it as direct competition, we don't see any correlation of, you know, their success with us. Um, you know, we love the fact that there are, you know, brand that was you know, founded by a first responder we know him. Um, and you know, again I think
For us, we're going to continue to play our game across every segment in grocery and in Walmart. Um, we continue to be able to demonstrate growth, uh, you know, at the register which is what what really counts, you know, where that consumer takes it away. Um, so while the competition will always be fierce in these categories, you know, we continue to believe that our distinctive brand positioning is uh, is protecting us. Well, there,
Speaker 9: Yep, fair enough. If I could ask one more real quick, what was I going to ask? I guess I will turn it over to someone else. If I think of my question, I will come back. Thanks.
Yep. Fair enough. If I could ask 1 more real quick, um, the um, um,
Well, the was I going to ask uh, yeah, I guess I'll turn over to to someone else if I think of my question. Uh, I'll come back. Thanks.
Chris Mondzelewski: Thank you.
Speaker 9: Thanks, Mike.
Speaker 8: The next question comes from Glenn West with William Blair. Please proceed.
Thank you. Thanks. Bye. The next question comes from Glenn West with William Blair please proceed.
Speaker 9: Hey, guys. Glenn West on for John Anderson. One thing I wanted to ask about on slide A, where you are showing kind of the ready-to-drink coffee, ACV, and share data. Obviously, ACV increasing, and there is probably a little slight lag to this, but the share kind of staying steady there at core 6 for the past couple of quarters. Can you guys talk about what you are going to do to kind of drive that share higher? Is that still just more distribution, or is there a more targeted marketing coming in? How are we going to push it higher from there?
That share a higher. Is that still just more distribution or or is there more targeted marketing coming in? Um how are we how are we going to push it higher from there?
Chris Mondzelewski: Yeah. Hey, Glenn. It's Chris. Yeah, you are right in your assumption. I think that's one factor, which is that ACV is always a leading indicator of what's then going to come from sales. We have talked about this a bit in the past. As we build ACV, and we tend to give guidance on ACV, we will always remind that ACV in itself is not always a direct indicator of revenue. It's a direct indicator that you are on shelf of a new set of customers, which then, assuming we execute well, will result in revenue in that particular customer group. That is largely what you are seeing. We have some large national customers that have come on board with us, which is driving that spike in ACV. Those velocities always start lower.
Chris Mondzelewski: As they come up, you are going to start to see that share number come up as well. Broadly, we just couldn't be more excited about this piece of our business. We are the number three player in the market right now, and we continue to grow at a much faster rate than the other larger players in the category. We are going to continue to take advantage of that because it's a strong story for us with retailers. We have some significant innovation, which we are not ready to talk about specifically yet. That will be coming later this year. We are going to use our momentum to build off of that. We have talked a bit in the past about what we have been doing to optimize our organization in facing into cost pressures.
Hey Glenn, it's Chris. Um, yeah, I mean you're you're right, uh, in your assumption. I think that's 1 factor which is that ACV is always a leading indicator of what's then going to come from sales. So, you know, we've talked about this a bit in the past, as we build ACV in, we tend to give guidance on ACV, but we'll always remind that ACV. In itself is not always a direct indicator of Revenue. It's a direct indicator that you're on shelf, um, of a new set of customers, which then assuming we execute, well, will result, uh, in Revenue, you know, in that particular customer group. So that is largely what you're seeing. You know, we have some, uh, large National customers that have come on board for us with, with us, which is driving that spike in ACV. Um, those velocities always start lower uh, as they come up, uh, in, you're going to start to see that share number come up as well. But broadly, you know, we just couldn't be more excited about this piece of our business. I mean, we're the number 3 player in the market right now, um, and we continue to grow, you know, at a much faster rate than the other
Chris Mondzelewski: Within that, we have been investing heavily in the areas that we know are going to be important to us to succeed. The sales force, in this case, we have put some really powerful sales assets in place, particularly with our ready-to-drink coffee business that, again, are going to just be sharpening that execution even further. High level of confidence on my part that you are going to start to see those share numbers start to tick up behind that ACV increase as well.
Larger players in the in the category. And we're going to continue to take advantage of that because it's a strong story for us with retailers. Um, we have some significant Innovation which we're not uh, ready to talk about specifically yet that'll be coming. Um, later this year, um, we're going to use our momentum to build off of that and, um, you know, we've talked a bit in the past about, you know, what we've been doing to optimize our organization in in facing into cost pressures. But within that, you know, we have been investing heavily in the areas that we know are going to be important to us, um, to succeed. So, the sales force, in this case, we've put some really powerful, uh, sales assets in place, uh, particularly with our RTD business. And again, you know, are going to just be sharpening that execution even further. So um, high level of confidence, you know, on my part that you're going to start to see um those share numbers start to tick up uh behind that ACV, increase as well.
Speaker 9: Okay, that's helpful, Colin. Thank you. Then maybe one follow-up, not to hit on ACV again, but energy, one thing that stuck out to me is that it's only 7% ACV in convenience stores. Obviously, C-store is super important for energy. So what's kind of the distribution look like in the strategy there for energy, specifically in that C-store channel?
Okay, that's helpful caller. Thank you. And then maybe 1 follow up not not to hit on HV again, but Energy 1 thing that stuck out to me is that it's uh, only 7% ACB and convenience stores obviously see store is it's super important for energy. So um what's kind of the distribution look like in the strategy there for energy uh specifically in that City store Channel?
Chris Mondzelewski: That was a very specific target that we went after. We are actually right where we had hoped to be on energy. You may recall in the past, I have talked a bit about the markets. We chose to go into a limited number of markets in the first year. That was a conversation we had with Keurig Dr. Pepper. We really wanted to get the model right. We really wanted to learn how to market this correctly in those cities. We chose cities that had strong category and brand indexes. Obviously, you can imagine across South Texas, San Diego was one. We have done well there. In many of those cities, the ACV within those cities tends to be somewhere between 50% and 70%.
Chris Mondzelewski: The aggregate of that, of course, is a lower number when you look at it nationally because there are some very big geographies that we are simply not distributed in yet. That was a purposeful choice that we made alongside Dr. Pepper. Energy for us is a great future growth platform, but we also want to make sure that we are never stealing resource from coffee, which is core to us, right? We just talked about our ready-to-drink coffee business and the size of that, number three in the market. Then, of course, our pods, our bags business continue to grow well ahead of the market. The lion's share of our resource will continue to go against that. That allowed us to put targeted, strong investment in those launch markets for energy. Again, the aggregate of that ended up being that 7% ACV you see.
Yeah, that was a very uh, specific uh Target that we went after, we're actually right where we um, had hoped to be on energy. Um, you may recall in the past, I've talked a bit about uh the markets. We chose to go into a limited number of markets in the first year. Um, and that was a a conversation we had with KDP, we really wanted to get the model, right? We really wanted to, you know, learn how to Market this correctly, in those cities. We chose cities that had strong, um, category and brand indexes. Um, obviously you know, you can imagine across the South Texas. Um, you know, San Diego was 1 and you know, we've done well there. We in many of those cities, the ACV within those cities tends to be somewhere between 50 and 70% and you know the aggregate of that of course is a lower number when you look at it nationally because there are some very big geographies that were simply not distributed in yet. Um that was a purposeful choice that we made alongside um
Dr. Pepper Energy. You know, for us, it is a great future growth platform, but we also want to make sure that we're never stealing resources, you know, from coffee, which is core to us, right? And we just talked about our RTD coffee business and the size of that—number 3 in the market. And then, of course, our pods and bags business continued to grow well ahead of the market. So, the lion's share of our resources, you know, will continue to go against that, that allowed us to put targeted, strong investment in those launch markets.
For for energy. Um, and again, you know, the aggregate of that ended up being that 7% ACV. You see.
Speaker 9: That's helpful, Colin. Appreciate the time, guys.
Chris Mondzelewski: Thanks, Glenn.
That's helpful color. Appreciate the time, guys.
Speaker 8: Next question comes from George Kelly with Roth Capital Partners. Please proceed.
Thanks.
Next question, comes from George Kelly with Roth Capital Partners, please proceed.
Speaker 9: Hey, everybody. Thanks for taking my questions. First one is just on your expectations for pricing in the back half of the year. Wondering if you could share a little bit just about what your plans are by business segment broadly. I guess secondarily, have you continued to tweak your packaged coffee pricing at Walmart? I thought I saw another change just recently when I was on the store. Any detail there would be helpful. Thanks.
Hey everybody, thanks for taking my questions.
Um, first 1 is just on your expectations for pricing in the back half of the year for wondering. If you could share a little bit, just about what your plans are. Um, 5 Business segments, just broadly and I guess secondarily have you continued to tweak your bagged coffee pricing at Walmart. I thought I saw another change. Um, just recently when I was, uh, on the, the the store, so any detail, there would be helpful, thanks.
Matt Amee: Good question, George. Thanks for that. We never comment on future pricing. Obviously, you can appreciate that. We would want to tell our customers first and then go to the street. But I can tell you that we did execute a pricing action across packaged coffee in May, which is settling into the marketplace right now, which probably explains why you have seen the pricing change on shelf that you have seen. That was largely across packaged coffee and largely across the wholesale market.
You know, we never comment on future pricing. Obviously you can appreciate that. We'd want to tell our customers first and then go to the street. But I can tell you that we did execute action across packaged coffee in in May, which is settling into the marketplace right now, which probably explains why you've seen the pricing. Change on shelf that you've seen. So that was largely a cross packaged coffee and largely across the uh the wholesale Market.
Speaker 9: Okay. Okay. Then second question, you mentioned Coffee Club in your prepared remarks. I am curious if you could be more specific just about what you are seeing at Coffee Club. Are you getting more Coffee Club distribution? Is it becoming a more material channel for you? I know you have had a long-standing customer there, but maybe it has broadened. How big can that channel be for you? Is that a big focus for 2026?
Okay, okay, and then uh, second question you mentioned Club in your prepared remarks.
um, so I guess
I'm curious, if you could be more specific, just about the kind of what you're seeing at club. And are you getting more Club distribution? Is it becoming uh, of sort of more material channel for you. I know you've had a long-standing customer there but maybe it's it's broadened and how how big can that channel be for you? Like, is, is that a big Focus for 26?
Chris Mondzelewski: I want to be careful. We are not going to give any specific guidance on any customer individually. However, Coffee Club as a channel is a significant portion of the categories that we operate in. They are great sellers of coffee, ready-to-drink coffee, and energy. They obviously play a different role than the other channels that we are in. But for a brand with our strength, well over 50% brand awareness at this point, a channel like this makes a lot of sense. Our early indicators are that we are going to have a great deal of success here. What I will say is at this point in time, we have programs going with all three major clubs. We are in distribution with all three major clubs. As you know, they all operate very differently.
So I want to be careful. Um, we you know, we're not going to give any specific guidance on any uh customer uh individually. However, you know Club as a channel is a significant portion of, um, the categories that we operate in. Uh, there are great sellers of coffee. Um, ready to drink coffee and energy. Um, they obviously play a different role than, uh, the other channels that we're in. But for a brand, with our strength, you know, well over 50% brand awareness at this point. Um, a channel, like this makes a lot of sense and
Chris Mondzelewski: The way we are doing these programs, we are working in line with their go-to-market strategies. Again, like every other part of the business, we are going to test our way in to ensure that we understand the model, that we understand how to get strong returns on the marketing that we put against that channel or that customer. Then as we see success with that, we are going to double down on it. Final point, you mentioned it will be part of our plan in 2026. Again, we are not going to piece apart where that growth plan comes from.
Chris Mondzelewski: But back to the earlier question, 10% to 15% guidance that we are given over the next few years, this is just one additional tool, as you point out, all of that open distribution in the market that we know, given some of the successes we have had against the three largest clubs out there that we have, we have some great growth opportunity going forward.
And our early indicators are that, you know, we're going to have a great deal of success here. Um, what I will say is that this at this point in time we have programs going with all 3, um, major clubs. Uh, we are in distribution with all 3, major clubs as, you know, uh, they all operate very differently. So the way we're doing these programs, we're working in line with, you know, their go to market strategies. And again like every other part of the business, we're going to um, you know, test our way in to ensure that we understand the model that we understand how to get strong Returns on the marketing that we put against that channel, uh, or that customer. And then as we see success with that, you know, we're going to double down on it. So you know, final point, you know you you you mentioned, you know, we'll be part of our plan of 26. Um again you know, we're not going to piece apart, you know, where that growth plan comes from, but, you know, back to the earlier question, you know what, 10 10 to 15%, um, guidance that we're giving over the next few years. This is just 1 additional tool as you point out, you know, all of that, you know, open distribution in the market.
Speaker 9: Okay. That's helpful. And then last one, just something I noticed in your Q. The Salt Lake property. It looks like that's either going to go up for sale or has sold already. What is the plan there? Are you going to lease it, or are you moving headquarters? Any detail there?
Uh, that we know given some of the successes we've had against, you know, the 3 largest clubs out there that we we have um, we have some great growth opportunity going forward.
Okay, that's helpful. And then last 1 just something I noticed in your queue. Um, the Salt Lake property, uh it looks like that's either going to go up for sale or as, as sold already. What is the the plan there? Um, are you going to lease it or like, are you moving headquarters in any detail there?
Matt Amee: George, thanks for the question. Yes, the facility is held for sale right now. You saw that in the Q. We are looking for something that is more suitable for the size of the organization. The building was great as we started to evolve the business. Now, with distribution centers across the U.S. and manufacturing in Tennessee, we no longer need a facility of that size. It does not change our structure of the organization, which will be head office in Salt Lake City. We have an office in Nashville and one in San Antonio, Texas.
George. Thanks for the question. So yes, the uh, the facility is held for sale right now. You saw that in the queue, we're looking for something that's more suitable for the size of the organization. Um, the building was great as we started to evolve the business, but now with distribution centers across the US and Manufacturing in in Tennessee, we no longer need a facility of that size. So it doesn't change the, our structure of the organization, which will be head office in Salt Lake City. We have an office in in Nashville and 1, in San Antonio, Texas.
Speaker 9: Okay. Thank you.
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 8: The next question comes from Joseph Arcobello with Raymond James. Please proceed.
Speaker 9: Hey, good morning. This is Martin on for Joe. I just want to quickly touch on the Black Rifle Energy rollout. Congratulations on getting over 15,000 doors. You described the rollout as disciplined, just trying to get an idea of what the back half ramp-up might look like for Black Rifle Energy. Is there a target for how many doors?
The next question comes from Joseph, A with Raymond James, please proceed.
Hey, good morning. This is Martin on, for Joe. I just want to quickly touch on the energy roll out, you know. Congratulations on. Getting over 15,000 doors. You described the role that this discipline so it's trying to get an idea of what the back half ramp up might look like for energy. Is there a Target for how many doors?
Chris Mondzelewski: are not going to release a target on the number of doors. We are going to stick to kind of what we said, which is that it is a limited number of geographies that we are going into. So the geographies we are operating in now are the geographies that we will continue to operate in the remainder of the year. Then, obviously, as we go into next year, there will be significant expansion. The reality, though, is that you are going to see upside simply because we are going to continue to drive those markets, right? So as we have gone into the year, we have been able to drive ACV to a higher level. The marketing that began, as you recall, back in March, April, is going to continue.
Um, we're not going to release a Target on number of doors. Uh we're going to stick to kind of what we said which is that it's a limited number of geographies that we're going into. Uh so the geography is we're operating in now are the geographies that we will continue to operate in the remainder of the year. And then obviously as we go into next year, uh, there will be um, significant expansion.
Chris Mondzelewski: We continue to build awareness of, obviously, the brand, but even more importantly, particularly the specific offerings of energy in this specific case. So again, I am not going to give guidance on any increases we expect to see in the back part of the year, but suffice to say, within the geography that we have operated in thus far in the year, we continue to hopefully see increases behind the marketing that we are doing in the back part of the year.
The the reality though is that you're, you are going to see upside simply because we're going to continue to drive those markets, right? So as we have gone into the year, we've been able to drive ACV to a higher level and you know the marketing that began, you know, as you recall back in uh March April um is going to continue and you know we continue to build awareness of you know obviously the brand but even more importantly you know the particular the specific offerings of of energy and the specific case. So again I'm not going to give guidance on
Operated in, um, thus far, you know, in the year, you know, we've continued to hopefully see increases, you know, behind the marketing that we're doing in the back part of the year.
Speaker 9: Okay, understood. Just as a follow-up, a housekeeping item, you released preliminary gross margins, and the reported gross margins fell just a little bit short of that. Was there something that happened that impacted the margins in between the time between the pre-announced numbers and the actual results?
Okay. Understood and just as a follow up sort of a housekeeping item. Uh You released preliminary gross margins, and the reported gross margin. So just a little bit short of that. Was there something that happened that sort of impacted the margins in between the time between the between announced numbers and the actual results.
Matt Amee: Yeah, thanks for that question. So, yes, when we did the raise, we were in the midst of the Q2 close. Through that close process, we identified some obsolete inventory raw materials, and we took a reserve against the raw materials. It wasn't a very material item, and that's the difference between the 34.1 and the 33.9 gross margin that we ended with.
Yeah that that's thanks for that question. So yes there when we did the uh the raise we were in the midst of the second quarter close and through that close process we identified some obsolete inventory, raw materials and we took a reserve against the raw materials. It wasn't a very material item, and that's the difference between the 34.1 and the 33.9 gross margin that we we ended with
Speaker 9: Great. Thank you. Congratulations and good luck.
Great, thank you. Congratulations, and good luck.
Matt Amee: Thank you.
Speaker 8: The next question comes from Daniel Biolsi with Hedgeye. Please proceed.
Thank you.
The next question comes from. Daniel Bosley with hedgeye, please proceed.
Speaker 9: Good morning. I was wondering if you could share the price versus volume components of the 14% wholesale growth for ready-to-drink coffee and packaged coffee, and if you do not have it exactly, just directionally. Excellent volume.
Good morning. I was wondering if you could share the um, the price first volume components of the 14% wholesale growth, uh, for RTD and bad coffee. And if you don't have it, exactly, just directionally
Matt Amee: Thanks for the question. It is 100% of volume. The pricing really didn't settle in until the third quarter. We will see that effect going forward. There was a partial quarter impact in Q3, and a full-on impact in Q4.
Yeah, thanks for the question. So it is 100% of volume. The pricing really didn't settle in until the third quarter. So we'll see that effect going forward. Partial quarter impact in Q3 full-on impact in Q4.
Chris Mondzelewski: Daniel, that is one of the things we are really excited about is that we have been able to drive the growth that we have purely off of units, which, again, for a business in our situation where penetration is going to be king for us, bringing on new consumers and every customer, that is kind of a bellwether metric for us. Then to Matt McGinley's point, we will have the additional weapon of pricing going forward.
Speaker 9: Okay. I think this probably half answers my next question. I was hoping you could sort of bucket the biggest swing factors from the first half of the year to the second half of the year, you know, with the maybe the $20 million plus adjusted EBITDA target for the year. What are the biggest swing factors from the first half to the second half? I guess pricing is going to be the number one.
But I think Daniel, that's 1 of the things we're really excited about is that, you know, that we've been able to drive, the growth that we have purely off of units, uh, which again, you know, for a business in our, uh, situation where you know, penetration is going to be king for us uh bringing on new new consumers. Um, and every customer you know, that's you know, kind of a a, a bellweather, um, you know, metric for us and then to Matt's point, you know, we'll have the additional weapon of um of pricing going forward.
Okay, so I I think this is probably half the answer is my next question so I was hoping you could sort of bucket the biggest swing factors from the first half of the year to the second half of the year, you know, with the you know maybe the 20 million plus adjusted Eva Target for the year. What are the biggest swing factors in the first half to the second half? I guess pricing is going to be the number 1.
Matt Amee: That is a great question. We provide annual guidance, and I do not want to get in the habit of providing quarter-to-quarter guidance. Given that our expectations are a large step up in revenue as well as EBITDA, I think I could certainly appreciate the question. We will provide some color on that. When we look at revenue, revenue is going to step up from Q2 to Q3 and then take a larger step into Q4. That is driven by the significant distribution gains and the velocity strength that we are seeing across gross food, drug, and mass right now, as well as the stabilization and the pivot to modest growth on direct-to-consumer. Couple that with the growth that we are seeing across C-store when it comes to the ready-to-drink coffee, and of course, energy is in the mix. Pricing does play a large part in that sequential step-up.
Yeah, that that's a great question. So, um, we provide annual guidance and I don't want to get in the habit of providing quarter to quarter guidance, but given that our expectations are a large Step Up in Revenue as well as is zubaydah. I think the, uh, I can certainly appreciate the question and we'll provide some color on that when we look at Revenue,
You know, revenue is going to step up from Q2 to Q3 and then take a larger step into Q4 and that is driven by the significant distribution gains in the velocity strength that we're seeing across gross food, drug, and mass right now, as well as the stabilization and the pivot to modest growth on D to C.
Matt Amee: Again, that pricing will affect the partial quarter impact in Q3 and then full-on in Q4. Also keep in mind, we are going to have lower slotting as we get to the back half of the year. Most of the slotting dollars behind new distribution on coffee, as well as ready-to-drink coffee and energy, happened in the first half. So that will be a tailwind going into the quarter. When you think about the quarterly step-up, Q1 about $90 million moving to Q2 of $94.8 million. Q3 will be at or above $100 million, and then you can do the math on Q4 where we have another sequential step-up. The sequential step-up in Q4 is very important because that is where we have the highest seasonality in the business.
Now couple that with the growth that we're seeing across sea store when it comes to the RTD and of course energy is in the mix pricing, does play a large part in that sequential step up again that pricing will affect the partial quarter impact in Q3 and then full on and Q4. But also keep in mind, we're going to have lower slotting as we get to the back half of the year, most of the slotting dollars, behind new Distribution on coffee as well as ready to drink and energy happened in the first half. So, that'll be a Tailwind going into the quarter. Um, when you, when you think about the quarterly,
Matt Amee: Think about that as direct-to-consumer with Cyber Week and Black Friday, as well as the increased foot traffic that really bodes well for our wholesale business through the holiday season. When you look at EBITDA, we are guiding to $20 million to $30 million. We feel like we are going to fall below that midpoint, but there is a significant step-up in EBITDA. The EBITDA trails revenue. The gross profit dollars come along with the growth in revenue over the back part of the year. Take into account, we are also going to bring more operational efficiencies into the picture in Q3 and Q4 as the operational efficiency project kicked off in the second quarter really matures and generates savings in the back half. Finally, there is a modest decrease in marketing investment.
Step up, you know, q1 and about 90 million dollars. Moving to Q2 of 94.8, Q3 will be at or above a hundred million dollars and then you can do the math on Q4 where we have another sequential step up the sequence will step up in q4's very important because that's where we have the highest seasonality in the business and think about that is direct to Consumer with cyber week and Black Friday, as well as the increase foot traffic that really bodes well for a wholesale business through the holiday season. When you look at evida
Matt Amee: Our plan was mostly front-end loaded, and we have a modest decrease in marketing investment in the back half.
So IBA, you know, regarding to 20 to 30 million. We feel like we're going to fall below that midpoint but there is a significant Step Up in Iva now that Eva Trails Revenue, right? So the gross profit dollars come along with the growth in in Revenue over the back part of the year but taking account. We're also going to bring more operational efficiencies into the picture in Q3 and Q4 as the oper operational efficiency project kicked off in the second quarter, really matures and generates Savings in the back half. And then finally there's a a modest decrease in marketing investment. Our plan was mostly front end bloated. And um, we have a a modest decrease in marketing investment in the back out.
Speaker 9: That was very helpful. Thank you.
That was very helpful. Thank you.
Matt Amee: Thank you.
Speaker 8: Once again, to ask a question, that's star one at this time. We have a follow-up question from Mike Baker with D.A. Davidson. Please proceed.
Thank you.
Speaker 9: Okay, thanks. I remembered my question. I wanted to ask about the energy drink. Any color you have, you gave us some ACV numbers and talked about sell-in. Maybe it is more qualitative, but discussion on sell-through, what are your retailers telling you? Then related to that, can you remind us about the customer merchandising agreement that kicks in next year and how that can help the energy rollout? Thanks.
At this time we have a follow-up question from Mike Baker with da Davidson please proceed.
Uh, okay. Thanks. Uh, I remember my question, I wanted to ask about the energy drink. Uh, any any call you have, uh, you gave us some ACV numbers and talked about selling any any, maybe as well. Qualitative but discussion on sell through, what what are your retailers telling you and then related to that? Can you remind us about the, uh, customer merchandising agreement that kicks in uh next year and and how that uh can help the energy roll out? Thanks.
Chris Mondzelewski: Yeah. Hey, Mike. No, thanks. I think I will reiterate what I said before and maybe give a little bit more color. Yeah, we are very pleased with where we are at with the rollout. Again, limited geographies, only a couple of national customers. We have been very focused on those national customers. So I talked to the geographies a bit. I think if you think about the national customers we are in, we have been delighted with the performance. If you look at it, it is one large national C-store chain, and it is obviously our other largest national customer. In both cases, the velocities have increased quarter on quarter, which is exactly what we would expect. In both cases, the velocity has increased quarter on quarter.
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Color, yeah, we we we're very pleased with, you know, where we're at with the roll out. Um again, you know, limited geographies, um, you know, only a couple of national customers, we've been very focused on those National customers. So I talked to the geography as a bit, I think if you think about the national customers, we're in um, you know, we've been delighted with the performance. Um, you know, if you look at uh, it's 1, large uh National sea store chain and it's it's um, you know, obviously our our other largest national customer and in both cases, you know, the velocities have increased, you know, quarter on quarter, which is exactly what we would expect.
Chris Mondzelewski: On top of that, we are starting to get, I am not going to quote velocity numbers, but we are starting to get into the range of some of the larger players that are out there, which means that, yeah, to answer your question, I am not going to speak for the retailers, but we are having very positive conversations with them about the product and the performance of the product on shelf. So we are bullish as we go in. Obviously, the sell season is going to be an important one for us this year. As you would imagine, we are approaching a lot more national customers, as well as additional regional customers as we go into next year. So that sell season is going to be very important for us.
Beyond in both cases, the velocity has increased quarter-on-quarter.
Chris Mondzelewski: We believe that we are armed with exactly what we wanted, which was the data from our initial rollout in order to be able to go in and put a strong proposal together that says, you know, this is why Black Rifle Coffee Company can play a very important part of your overall energy portfolio. So whether you are looking at it through the lens of the two national players or whether you are looking at it through the lens of the local markets we have gone into, we have been pleased so far with the results. You mentioned Keurig Dr. Pepper. Yeah, I mean, this was a big part of why we went into business with Keurig Dr. Pepper. They obviously have a lot of scale.
And on top of that, you know, we're starting to get I'm not going to quote velocity numbers, um, but we are starting to get into the range of some of the larger players, you know, that are out there, which means that, yeah, to answer your question, um, I'm not going to speak for the retailers, but we're having very positive conversations with them, um, about the product and the performance of the product on shelf. So, you know, we're bullish as we go in, obviously, the sails season is going to be an important 1 for us this year. As you would imagine, we're approaching a lot more National customers, uh, as well as, uh, additional Regional customers as we go into next year. So, you know, that sell season is going to be very important for us. We believe that we are armed with exactly what we wanted, which was the data from our initial rollout in order to be able to go in and put a strong proposal together that says, you know, this is why Black Rifle can play a very important part of, uh, of your overall energy portfolio. So, you know, whether you're looking at it through the lens of the 2 National players or whether you're looking at it through the lens of the
Chris Mondzelewski: As we had talked about, again, I am not going to talk to the details of exactly what we are negotiating for our plans next year. But what we have said publicly before is this was going to be a test year for us in the markets that we went into. As we go into next year, we are going to build off of that. I do not expect that we are going to be in full national distribution next year, but we are going to build off of our successes, and we are going to move into enough geographies that we know we are healthily building on our success while still allowing, again, for us to be able to put the full support against the core of our business, which is our coffee business and our ready-to-drink coffee business. So more to come.
local markets. We've gone into, you know, we've been uh, pleased so far with the results and then, you know, you mentioned um, you know, CMA yeah I mean this was a big part of why, you know, we went into business with uh, Dr. Pepper. Uh, you know, they obviously have a lot of scale and, you know, as we had talked about again, I'm not going to talk to the details of exactly what we're negotiating for our plans next year. But you know what we've said, public.
Chris Mondzelewski: As we get into the latter part of the year, we will probably provide a little bit more guidance on that, but expect it to play a key role in the plan next year.
Quickly before is, you know this was going to be a test year for us and the markets that we went into and as we go into next year, we're going to build off of that. Um, you know, I don't expect that we're going to be in full National Distribution next year, um but we're going to build off of our successes and we're going to move into, you know, enough geographies that we know we are healthily, you know, building on our success while still allowing again for us to be able to put the full support against, you know, the core of our business which is our, you know, coffee business and our RTD coffee business. So more to come, you know, as we get into the latter part of the year, we'll probably provide a little bit more guidance on that, but, um, expect it to play a, uh, a key role in the in the plan next year.
Speaker 9: Thank you for the follow-up.
Perfect, thank you for the follow-up.
Matt Amee: Thanks, Mike.
Speaker 8: Thank you. At this time, I would like to turn the floor back over to management for any additional or closing comments.
Thanks Mike.
Thank you at this time. I like to turn the floor back over to management for any additional or closing comments.
Chris Mondzelewski: Yeah, just real quickly, I think we always talk a lot about the numbers of the business. I want to just point everyone to really what the founders, myself, are proudest of in this business is our brand, the fact that we continue to build that brand in such an authentic manner. You heard about some of the stuff I talked about up front in my comments on the programs we have going on. For those that are newer to Black Rifle Coffee Company, this is the lifeblood of what our business is. It is why we are all here. It allows us to play a meaningful role in giving back to America and those that matter most in America, our veterans, our first responders. It also builds our brand. It builds authenticity in our brand.
Chris Mondzelewski: It builds distinctiveness, and it is actually building awareness. We are seeing our brand awareness go up significantly off of these programs we are doing. So we are super proud of that, and I want to make sure that that gets mentioned. With that, I appreciate everyone taking the time, and we will talk to you next quarter.
Yeah, just real quickly. I think we always, you know, talk a lot about the numbers of the business. I want to just point everyone to really what the founders myself are proudest of in this business, is our brand. The fact that we continue to build that brand in such an AIC manner, you heard about some of the stuff I talked about up front in my comments. Um, the programs we have going on, you know, for those that are newer to Black Rifle, you know, this is the lifeblood of what our business is, it's why we're all here. Um, it allows us to play a meaningful role in giving back to America and those that matter most in America. Um, you know, our veterans are First Responders, but it also builds Our Brands, it builds authenticity in our brand, it builds distinctiveness.
And it's actually building awareness. We're seeing our brand awareness, go up significantly, you know, off of these programs we're doing. So we're super proud of that and I want to make sure that that gets mentioned, um, with that, I appreciate everyone, um, taking the time and we'll, we'll talk to you next quarter.
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