Q2 2025 Emera Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the EMERA Q2 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, online journalists and only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session.
Speaker #1: If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press the star zero for the operator. This call is being recorded on Friday, August 8th, 2025.
Speaker #1: I would now like to turn the conference over to Dave Bezanson. Vice President of Investor Relations, please go ahead.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Luti, and thank you all for joining us this morning for EMERA's second quarter 2025 conference call and live webcast. EMERA's second quarter earnings release was distributed this morning via Newswire, and the financial statements, management's discussion and analysis, and the presentation being referenced on this call are available on our website at emera.com.
Speaker #3: Joining me for this morning's call are Scott Balfour, EMERA's President and Chief Executive Officer; Greg Blunden, EMERA's Chief Financial Officer; and other members of EMERA's management team.
Speaker #3: Before we begin, I'd like to advise you that this morning's discussion will include forward-looking information, which is subject to the cautionary statement contained in supporting slide.
Speaker #3: Today's discussion and presentation will also include references to non-GAAP financial measures. You should refer to the appendix for reconciliations of historical non-GAAP measures to closest GAAP financial measure.
Speaker #3: And now, I will turn things over to Scott.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Dave, and good morning, everyone. This morning, we reported the second quarter adjusted earnings per share of $0.79. This is almost a 50% increase over the same period in 2024.
Speaker #4: This strong result marks our fourth consecutive quarter of strong earnings growth and business performance and underscores the momentum we have built since the strategic update shared with you last year.
Speaker #4: We remain laser-focused on delivering for customers, and disciplined execution of our capital plan. First and foremost, our capital plan investments deliver value for our ustomers.
Speaker #4: With projects that enhance reliability, storm-harden our rastructure, and supports both economic and customer growth in the communities where we operate. Our disciplined and prudent execution of these investments then also translates into meaningful earnings and cash flow growth that strengthen the financial position of our utilities, and EMERA overall, and deliver value for our areholders.
Speaker #4: Given all that we've complished in the first half of 2025, we are confident that we will be well above our five to seven percent average annual adjusted earnings per share growth target for this year, and we remain committed to the average adjusted EPS growth guidance we initiated last year of five to seven percent over the 2025 to 2027 period.
Speaker #4: In the first half of 2025, we deployed more than $1.7 billion of customer-focused capital and remain on track to execute all $3.4 billion of our capital plan this year.
Speaker #4: Key projects are progressing as planned, including solar expansion and reliability investments at Tampa Electric, energy storage, transmission, and reliability investments in Nova Scotia, and gas infrastructure expansion at People's Gas.
Speaker #4: Our capital plan is rooted in essential investments that improve reliability and meet customers' volving demands. More than half of our five-year capital plan is focused on investment in transmission, distribution, and gas infrastructure expansion.
Speaker #4: This focus allows us to support customer growth as well as enhance resilience and reliability through storm protection, vegetation management, and grid modernization investments. On the generation side, our solar investment in Florida is the single largest capital project in our -year plan, with more than $2 billion allocated.
Speaker #4: We've taken proactive steps to de-risk this investment by using the Safe Harbor provisions in the recent US legislation, which should allow us access to PTCs through 2029, and help keep costs down for customers.
Speaker #4: With our capital plan focused on essential investments, and the underlying drivers of our business continuing to point to an ongoing requirement for this level of robust investment, we are confident in the durability of our capital spend and the foundation of our organic growth, both today and over the longer term.
Speaker #4: Our current plan does not include investment to support potential data center-driven growth, which represents promising upside potential to our capital and earnings growth profile.
Speaker #4: On the regulatory front, we've seen constructive momentum in three key areas. Earlier this week, People's Gas reached a comprehensive agreement with key interveners and filed a motion to suspend activities associated with the rate case proceeding.
Speaker #4: The terms of the settlement are confidential until the formal settlement agreement is filed with the regulator, which we expect to happen next week. We expect a final order in the fourth quarter with new rates to be effective January 1st, 2026.
Speaker #4: At New Mexico Gas, in response to intervener feedback received during the regulatory process, the joint applicants revised their application to incorporate additional customer benefits and protections.
Speaker #4: This positive step was supported by an extension to the procedural schedule setting a new hearing date in November 2025, which also provides additional time for the parties to submit a possible settlement stipulation.
Speaker #4: We remain confident in obtaining regulatory approval. As a of the hearing schedule shifts, though, we expect the transaction to close in early 2026, rather than late 2025, as previously communicated.
Speaker #4: At Nova Scotia Power, the team continues to work constructively with stakeholders to align understanding and support of the capital investment and revenue requirements needed to deliver for customers and to ensure financial stability for the utility.
Speaker #4: We're ouraged by the ongoing conversations and hope to provide additional updates soon as the team works to secure the necessary new rates for 2026.
Speaker #4: And with that, I'll turn it over to Greg to take you through our financial results.
Speaker #5: Thank you, Scott, and all of you for joining us today. Turning to the details of our financial performance, this morning we reported strong second quarter adjusted earnings of $236 million and adjusted earnings per share of 79 cents.
Speaker #5: Compared to $151 million and 53 cents in the second quarter of 2024, the robust earnings growth from across our business translated into a meaningful 32% increase in operating cash flow when normalized for fuel and storm deferrals.
Speaker #5: This cash flow growth drives meaningful progress towards our credit metric targets with an over 150 basis point improvement in key credit metrics since this time last year, bringing us much closer to our 12% target on a trailing 12-month basis.
Speaker #5: We are also pleased to see that during the quarter, Fitch returned our outlook to stable in recognition of our successful efforts to deliver and reflecting their confidence in our cash flow growth for 2025.
Speaker #5: At our investor day in December, stated we expected to achieve a 12 to 12.5% cash flow to debt in 2025 with a sale in New Mexico Gas.
Speaker #5: With the close in New Mexico now expected in early 2026, we expect to still be in that range in 2025. Importantly, we remain confident in achieving target credit metrics at all three rating agencies in 2025 and beyond.
Speaker #5: Our ength and balance sheet provides us with increased flexibility to navigate the timing shift of New Mexico Gas transaction and to optimize our 2026 refinancings.
Speaker #5: In 2026, we have the $1.2 billion US dollar hybrid from the acquisition of Tampa Electric with a high reset call, and a $750 million US dollar senior unsecured debt maturity.
Speaker #5: We are considering the best steps to de-risk these over the next 12 months. Given the success of our 2024 hybrid financings and our targeted capital structure, we are considering a U.S. hybrid debt offering for later this year.
Speaker #5: Turning to the drivers of our results, adjusted earnings per share for the quarter increased 49% primarily driven by higher contributions from Tampa Electric, EMERA Energy, and lower corporate costs.
Speaker #5: At Tampa Electric, new rates reflecting the el of capital we've invested on behalf of customers continued customer growth and favorable weather increased contributions by 25 cents compared to the second quarter 2024.
Speaker #5: Corporate costs contributed 8 cents to the quarter over quarter earnings improvement driven by lower interest expense, higher income tax recoveries, and modest timing differences in the valuation of long-term compensation and related hedges versus Q2 2024.
Speaker #5: At EMERA Energy, lower transport costs and favorable head settlements related to storage positions increased contributions from their marketing and trading business. And at our as utilities, new rates at New Mexico Gas drove higher earnings partially offset by lower contributions from People's Gas.
Speaker #5: The modestly stronger US dollar increased adjusted earnings by a penny during the quarter. And finally, contributions from our electric utilities decreased 9 cents compared to second quarter of 2024, driven by the sale of our ity interest in the Labrador Iron Link in June of last year and higher operating costs at Nova Scotia Power.
Speaker #5: As a result of the cyber incident in the second quarter, Nova Scotia Power incurred approximately $5 million of after-tax costs that were not covered by insurance and that we will not be seeking recovery of from customers.
Speaker #5: Many of drivers for the quarter are the same as they are for the year to date. But there are a few items I'd like to highlight.
Speaker #5: For the year, the strengthening US dollar had a more meaningful impact on earnings from our US utilities, driving an 8 cent increase in adjusted EPS compared to the same period in 2024.
Speaker #5: EMERA Energy's year to date performance reflects a record first quarter, where cold weather in the Northeast earlier this year brought higher pricing and market volatility that the business was able to capitalize on.
Speaker #5: And as a result of that, in the first quarter of this year, we adjusted EMERA Energy's earning guidance upward to a range of 35 to 45 million US dollars.
Speaker #5: And for the year to date, contributions for Canadian utilities benefited from the recognition of ITCs ated to the ongoing energy storage projects and favorable weather in Nova Scotia in the first quarter, which more than offset the lower contributions as a result of our sale of the Labrador Iron Link in June of last year.
Speaker #5: And with that, I will now turn the call back over to Scott.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Greg. For those across the sector, this is a pivotal time to invest in increasing demand, resilience, and efficiency. EMERA will continue to build on our strong momentum, executing our durable customer-focused $20 billion capital plan, which in turn will offer better outcomes for utility customers, all the while focusing on keeping their bills as low as possible.
Speaker #4: At the same time, with our solid balance sheet and optimized capital allocation, we will continue to translate our investment into earnings and cash flow growth for shareholders.
Speaker #4: And now I would like to open the call up for questions from our analysts.
Speaker #2: Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press the star followed the number one on your telephone keypad.
Speaker #2: If ou're using a speakerphone, please speak up your handset before pressing the keys. Do we draw your question? Please press the star two. With that, our first question comes from the lineup, Rob Hope with Scotiabank.
Speaker #2: Please go head.
Speaker #6: Good morning, everyone. The first questions on Tampa Electric. Scott, you mentioned in the prepared remarks potential upside related to data centers. Can you add a little bit more color on some of the size of opportunity and how conversations are progressing?
Speaker #3: Sure. And Archie is traveling at the ent, so he's not able join us, but thank you for the question. Rob, you know, you would have heard us say, Archie and myself, this year that we'd be disappointed if we didn't secure a data center opportunity this year.
Speaker #3: That continues to be true, although I'd say, you know, there are a number of conversations that are going on, but we're not in a place yet, obviously, to be able to count on any data center load or growth to the ent that we do.
Speaker #3: You know, realistically, this is, you know, 2027 or 2028 related growth. And we're, you know, we're king, realistically, we're talking hundreds of megawatts, not gigawatts at this point. But, you know, I am encouraged that we are engaged in a number of discussions, and we do see this as a real opportunity. We're in a place yet where we've built anything into our plans or expectations, but we do continue to work on this, and as I say, we are encouraged.
Speaker #4: All right. Appreciate that. And then maybe shifting over to Nova Scotia, you know, continue see the government speak about wanting additional transmission in the region.
Speaker #4: Can you maybe update us on how conversations are going for either interprovincial connections or even the potential to strengthen the grid to accommodate offshore wind?
Speaker #7: Hi, Rob. It's Peter Greg. I would say, you know, I am encouraged by the conversations that are happening at the federal level, and I know our Premier is speaking a lot about the opportunity that offshore wind represents in Nova Scotia.
Speaker #7: So we were, you know, engaged discussions with the province. In terms of next steps to move forward on that, I'd say it's very, very early.
Speaker #7: But that a lot of encouraging discussion about nation building projects from the federal level and I think it does represent opportunity for Nova Scotia.
Speaker #7: Therefore, opportunity I think for Nova Scotia Power.
Speaker #4: All right. Appreciate that. And congrats on a good arter.
Speaker #7: Thanks, Rob.
Speaker #2: And your next question comes from the lineup, Maurice Choi with RBC Capital Markets. Please go head.
Speaker #8: Thanks, and good morning, everyone. Just sticking with the Nova Scotia theme here, I think in the prepared remarks you mentioned that you're encouraged by the ongoing conversations. I do obviously recall that in a previous conference call, you suggested that there might be an update in Q2, presuming Q2 results, recognizing that this is obviously a complex discussion. But can you just provide more color on this? The rate case obviously hasn't been filed yet, but what exactly are you trying to achieve in tandem with the government and your stakeholders?
Speaker #7: Yeah, Maurice, it's Peter again. I think Scott said it well in his prepared remarks. It's probably difficult for me to say much more than that.
Speaker #7: But, you ow, we are just to echo that, we're having constructive discussions. With the various stakeholders, and I think Scott closed by saying hope to have more updates in the not too distant future.
Speaker #7: It's ably all I'm prepared to say today.
Speaker #8: Understood. Maybe just shifting over to the balance sheet, Greg, I think if I didn't mistakenly hear this, you mentioned that you still expect to be in the 12% to 12.5% range for cash flow to debt in 2025, despite the absence of the NMGC transaction benefits.
Speaker #8: Can you share what steps you took or what tailwinds that helped fill this gap that NMGC would have filled? I believe NMGC would have helped the metric by about 50 bips.
Speaker #8: So just your thoughts on that. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Thanks, Maurice. I think a lot of it is just the performance of our business on a year-to-date basis. And maybe to give ou a little bit of context around that, and again, obviously, the focus of most of our investors is with Moody, who is Moody's, who is the only agency that still has a negative outlook.
Speaker #3: Their report on a trailing 12-month basis at the end of Q1 had us at 11.3% on an FFO to debt perspective. We expect when they publish at the end of Q2, that'll at 11.7%.
Speaker #3: On a trailing 12-month basis, and of course, they are normalizing out the cash flow at Tampa Electric for storm cost recovery. They do not normalize out the debt that that cash flow is actually servicing.
Speaker #3: If you normalize for that debt, we're at 11.9 on a trailing 12-month basis. So we're effectively there now on a trailing 12-month basis. So it's ally been the business unit performance to date that gives us confidence that irrespective of closing in Mexico, we'll be where we need to be.
Speaker #8: Understood. Thank you very much.
Speaker #7: You're welcome.
Speaker #2: And your next question comes from the lineup, John Mold with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Speaker #9: If I morning, everybody. Maybe just going to the Florida utility many of us have observed the announcement that Duke is selling a 20% interest in its Florida utility at two times rate base.
Speaker #9: Looking back a couple of years at your 2023 Investor Day, I think you were very clear that you would not consider a sale of a minority stake in your Florida utility.
Speaker #9: Just wondering if you could update us on your thinking there, right, and if there is any use of proceeds that you see as being sufficiently attractive to consider selling a minority stake in that asset.
Speaker #3: Thanks for the question, John. So, you know, our thinking has not changed. We continue to see our operations in Florida, both our electric and gas operations, as core to our business, to our strategy, and to our growth.
Speaker #3: To our success. And, you know, encouraged, obviously, at the transaction that between Duke and Duke and Brookfield. I ink reinforces supports our view that these are premium utilities in this market that Florida is a good market to own and operate a regulated utility.
Speaker #3: And we're unate enough to have two of them in that market. So I ink it provides a useful valuation marker for us. But as it relates to, you know, sort of liquidity opportunities and capital recycling, you know, that's the process we've been on for last 12 months.
Speaker #3: And the decisions to sell our interest in the Labrador Iron Link and New Mexico Gas are really the decision points that we made around that.
Speaker #3: And we continue to be happy with the rest of the portfolio, particularly including our operations in Florida.
Speaker #8: Okay. Great. Just wanted to check on that. And then maybe just coming back to offshore wind in Nova Scotia, you know, we did see the announcement last week that the first offshore offshore wind areas have been designated in Nova Scotia.
Speaker #8: I guess I'm just wondering, looking at those sites as an early look, how much do they leverage the existing transmission system in Nova Scotia versus potentially necessitating some upgrades to your system?
Speaker #8: I'm just wondering maybe, Peter, what you could tell us there in terms of an early look.
Speaker #7: Yeah. It is early. And so a bit hesitant to say, but I'd say that the size of the resource that we know is out there is significantly more than the energy we consume in Nova Scotia ourselves.
Speaker #7: So, you know, we'd obviously have an interest in securing that clean energy for our ustomers where we can. But I ink there's also going to be an opportunity export of that power.
Speaker #7: And that's where a lot of the discussion about interregional transmission has come. So I think, considering the size of it—and this may happen in phases—but considering the size of it, we would likely need upgrades to our transmission network in Nova Scotia.
Speaker #7: Both for delivery to our customers, but also for export needs beyond Nova Scotia.
Speaker #4: Okay. I'll leave it there. Thank you very ch.
Speaker #2: All right. Thank you. And your next question comes from the lineup, Mark Jarvey with CIBC Capital Markets. Please go head.
Speaker #10: Yeah. Good morning, everyone. I just wanted to up a little bit on that last conversation, Peter. Just I guess one thing on the transmission interconnects, if offshore wind comes to be fruition, is that de facto for NSPI or would that go to competitive bid?
Speaker #10: And then your comment about being more resource and power than what you might need there, are you contemplating exports to the US again, like some of the options you looked at a number of years ago?
Speaker #4: Sorry. Mark, can you say the first part of your question again?
Speaker #10: I was just wondering whether or not the transmission infrastructure build would be needed for offshore wind if it comes to fruition. If you have the right to that, like incumbent rights at NSPI, or whether or not that'd be a competitive process?
Speaker #7: Yeah. It's too early to know. I would say, though, that, you know, like other provincial jurisdictions, we do have sort of that franchise right, I guess you would say, for the transmission build in Nova Scotia under our tariff.
Speaker #7: And that would be similar in other provinces as well. Your question about US, we're not actively pursuing anything like that at this point. I think the first step would be to look at, you know, the provinces obviously identified the first four parcels.
Speaker #7: I would expect that, you ow, a request for expressions of interest would follow at some point. And we'll see at happens after that.
Speaker #4: I think, Mark, the other thing I'd say on that is, you know, we are doing everything we can to support the provinces and premiers' ambitions here and bold vision as it relates to developing this significant resource.
Speaker #4: And, you know, that includes Nova Scotia Power and EMERA. We'll do ything we can to support. But it's largely being led by them. And, you know, as Peter answered in the previous question, the resource opportunity there is multiples the size of the entire system here in Nova Scotia.
Speaker #4: So, you know, that would need a market. And the obvious markets for that are either west of here into sort of the more populous regions in Canada, Quebec, and potentially Ontario.
Speaker #4: Or into New England. And, you know, the premier's wind west initiative identifies both those markets. Obviously, there's a, you know, a lot of important math and economics that has to go into making all of that work.
Speaker #4: But we'll be doing everything that we can to support his vision, the execution of that, including supporting whatever transmission needs and builds are are required.
Speaker #10: Understood. Thanks, Scott. And then just coming back to NSPI and the path forward for new rates, I guess at this point, is it kind of ruled out that it'd a typical general rate application just given the timelines?
Speaker #10: Sort of more like a pre-negotiated settlement? Is that sort of the path forward here?
Speaker #7: Yeah, Mark. I'd just say, again, you know, please, with a constructive conversation since we've been having. And, you know, doing everything we can to secure those rates for 2026.
Speaker #10: Got it. Had to try a little harder on that one. And then yeah. Yeah. Greg, last question for you. Just given those comments on credit metrics, progress, I know New Mexico Gas sale has been pushed out a little bit.
Speaker #10: Does that mean anything around the usage of the ATM this year? Or do you feel like the tailwinds in business clearly keep the ATM on the sidelines for the balance of this year?
Speaker #3: Yeah. I don't see any change at this point, Mark. I did make a reference to US hybrids if New Mexico had a closed originally as planned, we wouldn't have had a use of proceeds.
Speaker #3: For any incremental corporate financing this year. But now we have some flexibility to maybe get ahead of and de-risk the June financing of next year.
Speaker #3: So we're looking at that. But I'd say our first and foremost, our focus would be on a US hybrid offering.
Speaker #10: Got it. Okay. Thanks, everyone.
Speaker #7: Welcome.
Speaker #2: Once again, if you would like to ask a question, simply press the star one on your telephone keypad. Your next question comes from the lineup, Ben Pam with BML.
Speaker #2: Please go head.
Speaker #11: Hi. Thanks for the morning. I wanted to k on your EPS guidance, the five to seven percent. Can you comment directly when you think about the key levers and that guidance, whether it's Florida or interest rates, how is that generally trending versus your budget and can you also clarify what you're uming in the hybrid assumption in that guidance?
Speaker #7: Yeah. Ben, let me maybe give you a little bit of color. I mean, certainly when we rolled it out, we assumed a constant FX rate.
Speaker #7: And we made the assumption that EMERA Energy would earn at the midpoint of their band. You know, what we're seeing from a tailwind this year, obviously, EMERA Energy has outperformed that midpoint.
Speaker #7: And we've justed the guidance. Wouldn't necessarily expect that to continue in the four years. We are seeing some favorable weather and load growth in particular in Florida.
Speaker #7: So that's been, you know, pushing us maybe at the higher end of that in the near term. We've always assumed in our long-term forecast that we would, in one form or other, refinance the June 2026 hybrids in the market.
Speaker #7: Hybrid pricing has come in a little bit tighter than it, you know, certainly was six months ago. But I wouldn't say that would have an overall meaningful impact on our long-term EPS CAGR.
Speaker #11: Okay. Is there just one on that hybrid then? Is there appetite, and can you do a full one-for-one hybrid offering versus taking some out with asset proceeds or ATM usage?
Speaker #7: Yeah, we have some flexibility in terms of it doesn't have to be one-for-one on the particular date. We could do it in multiple tranches.
Speaker #7: Which is a likely scenario. For us, but it doesn't have to be done on one-for-one. And we can certainly replace it with other sorts of financings.
Speaker #7: But ultimately, we would expect to have comparable preferred shares hybrid financing in place to replace the $1.2 billion that we have maturing next year.
Speaker #11: Okay. Got it. And then maybe one more last cleanup question. The cybersecurity reference, how does that, any, change the cybersecurity CapEx, if any, or just how you look at IT investments outside of NSPI within NSPI?
Speaker #3: Yeah. I don't think Ben, Greg, I don't think it's any different for us than anybody else. We're always trying to manage how we invest in our IT systems and the amount of investment from a cybersecurity prevention issue.
Speaker #3: You know, certainly, I think, you ow, the stuff that's in the cloud is generally more secure than stuff's on-premise. And a lot of our infrastructure had already been migrated into the cloud.
Speaker #3: And there's still some work to be done. But I'd say it's a continued evolution of all of that. And nothing particularly unique. I don't ink to us versus, you know, at you'd be seeing with our peers or, quite frankly, any other company in North America.
Speaker #11: Okay. Got it. Thank ou.
Speaker #7: Welcome.
Speaker #2: Thank you. And we currently have no further questions at this time. I would like to turn it back to Dave Bezanson for closing remarks.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Luti. And thank you all for your interest in Emera. Please reach out to the Investor Relations team if you have any further questions.
Speaker #3: Otherwise, have a safe day and rest of the summer.