Q2 2025 TransMedics Group Inc Earnings Call

Operator: Good afternoon and welcome to TransMedics' second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. We will be facilitating a question-and-answer session towards the end of today's call. As a reminder, this call is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the call over to Lynn Morgan from the Gillmartin Group for a few introductory comments. Please go ahead.

Good afternoon and welcome to TransMedics' second quarter 2025 earnings conference call.

At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode.

We will be facilitating a question-and-answer session towards the end of today's call.

As a reminder.

This call is being recorded for replay purposes.

Gerardo Hernandez: Thank you. Early today, TransMedics released financial results for the quarter ended June 30th, 2025. A copy of the press release is available on the company's website. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that management will make statements during this call, including during the question-and-answer portion of the call, that include forward-looking statements within the meanings of federal securities laws. Any statements contained in this call that relate to expectations or prediction of future events, results, or performance are forward-looking statements.

I would now like to turn the call over to Lan Morgan from the Gil Martin Group for a few introductory comments. Please go ahead.

Thank you.

Early today, transmedics released Financial results for the quarter ended, June 30th 2025.

A copy of the pressure relief is available on the company's website.

Before we begin, I would like to remind you, that management will make statements during this call, including during the question and answer portion of the call that include for the 2 state within the meanings of Federal Security laws.

Gerardo Hernandez: These include statements about future events, results, or performance, including commentary on potential market and business conditions, our examination of operating trends, the potential commercial opportunity of our products and services, the potential timing, outcome, and value of new clinical programs, the potential impact of tariffs on our business, our expectations for growth and opportunities in our operations, and financial guidance and/or projected expectations, including revenue, gross margins, and operating expenses in 2025 and beyond. These statements involve risks and uncertainty that could cause actual results or events to materially differ from those anticipated or implied by the forward-looking statements. Accordingly, you should not place undue reliance on these statements.

Any statements contained in this? Call that relate to expectations or prediction of future events results or performance or for other people statements.

These include statements about future events, results, or performance, including commentary on potential market and business conditions. Our examination of operating trends, the potential commercial opportunity of our products and services, the potential timing, outcome, and value of new clinical programs, and the potential impact of tariffs on our business, as well as our expectations for growth and opportunities in our operations and financial guidance, and our projected expectations, including revenue, gross margin, and operating expenses in 2025 and beyond.

These statements include all risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results or events to materially differ from those anticipated or implied by the four living statements.

Gerardo Hernandez: Additional information regarding these risks and uncertainties appears under the heading Risk Factors of our form 10Q filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on May 8th, 2025, and our subsequent SEC filings, which are available at www.sec.gov and on our website at www.transmedics.com. You can find the company's slide presentation with information on second quarter 2025 results on the Investor Relations section of the TransMedics website. TransMedics disclaims any intention or obligation, except as required by law, to update or revise any financial projections or forward-looking statements. This conference call contains time-sensitive information and is accurate only as of the live broadcast today, July 30th, 2025. And with that, I will now turn the call over to Waleed Hassanein, President and Executive Officer.

Accordingly, you should not Place undue Reliance on these statements.

Additional information regarding these risks and uncertainties appears Under The Heading risk factors of our 10 of our form, 10 q u with the Securities and Exchange Commission on May 8th 2025 and our subjects on SEC filings which are available at www.sc.gov. And on our website at at www.transcom.com,

You can find the company's slide presentation with information on second quarter, 2025 results on the investor relations section of the transmedics website.

Transmitters to claims any intention or obligation except as required by law to update, or revise, any Financial projections or for these payments.

This conference call contains time-sensitive information. And is accurate only as of the live broadcast today, July 30th 2025 and with that. I will now turn the call over to Wally Hassan president and executive officer

Waleed Hassanein: Thank you very much, Lynn. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the TransMedics second quarter 2025 earnings call. Joining me today is Gerardo Hernandez, our Chief Financial Officer. Organ transplant therapy is experiencing a renaissance globally due to the growing recognition of the life-saving and cost-effective outcomes when treating end-stage organ failure. In the US, federal agencies and Congress are driving a national initiative to modernize the US transplant system to enable greater utilization of donor organs to meet the growing demand for more and better organ transplantation. More recently, this July, the European Society of Organ Transplantation, or ESOT, published a call for action paper in The Lancet, the premier medical journal, highlighting the global importance of organ transplantation.

Thank you very much, Lane. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the TransMedics second quarter 2025 earnings call.

Joining me today is Geraldo Hernandez. Our Chief Financial Officer.

Organ transplant therapy is experiencing a renaissance globally, due to the growing recognition of the life-saving and cost-effective outcomes when treating end-stage organ failure.

Waleed Hassanein: Specifically, the paper reinforced the urgent need for healthcare systems to prioritize investments in organ transplantation as a critical healthcare strategy, given the significant impact on health and cost efficiency of organ transplants. Against this backdrop, we at TransMedics have been relentless in driving significant positive transformation of the transplant therapy globally through our OCS technology, our unique NOP program in the US. This is what drives our mission-oriented TransMedics team and has enabled us to consistently execute and deliver on our plans. On today's call, as we look into the future beyond our exceptional 2Q performance, I will be sharing our near and long-term vision of key strategic initiatives designed to grow our OCS NOP volumes beyond the 10,000 planned for 2028.

More recently, this July, the European Society of Organ Transplantation (ESOT) published a call for action paper in The Lancet, the premier medical journal, highlighting the global importance of organ transplantation.

Specifically, the paper reinforced, the urgent need for Health Care Systems to prioritize investments in organ transplantation as a critical Health Care strategy given the significant impact on health and cost efficiency of organ transplants.

Against this backdrop. We are transmedics have been Relentless in driving significant positive transformation of the transplant therapy globally.

Through our OCS technology, our unique Noop program.

In the US.

This is what drives our mission-oriented TransMedics team and has enabled us to consistently execute and deliver on our plans.

On today's call, as we look into the future beyond our exceptional, 2q performance.

Waleed Hassanein: Importantly, I will also provide our perspectives in response to some recent market confusion and noise following comments made by a certain player in the organ preservation ecosystem. But first, let me highlight our 2Q performance, which represents a new high watermark for both clinical cases and revenue. Our performance has also demonstrated a significant operating leverage potential of the TransMedics business, even as we continue to invest across several growth initiatives. We strongly believe that this quarter represents just one key milestone of many to come as we work towards achieving our strategic vision to drive TransMedics to become the global standard of care for organ transplantation. We are not stopping here. We are already ramping up our investments to drive the next several waves of growth that would deliver substantially more top and bottom-line growth for TransMedics.

I will be sharing our near and long-term vision of key. Strategic initiatives designed to grow our OCS NOP volumes, beyond the 10,000 planned for 2028.

Importantly, I will also provide our perspectives in response to some recent market confusion and noise following comments made by a certain player in the organ preservation ecosystem.

But first, let me highlight our 2 Q performance, which represents a new high water mark for both clinical cases and Revenue.

Our performance has also demonstrated.

A significant operating leverage potential of the transmedics business.

Even as we continue to invest across several growth initiatives,

We strongly believe that this quarter represents just one key milestone of many to come, as we work towards achieving our strategic vision to drive TransMedics to become the global standard of care for organ transplantation.

Waleed Hassanein: Our success has been and will remain fueled by the unique TransMedics Trident. That is to say, our disruptive and technically unparalleled OCS technology platform, our revolutionary NOP service model, and our unique dedicated transplant logistics network. Now, let me turn to a more detailed outline of our 2Q performance. The results speak for themselves. Total revenue for 2Q 2025 was 157.4 million, representing approximately 38% growth year over year and approximately 10% sequential growth from 1Q 2025. We experienced sequential growth across all three organ segments, driven by higher overall utilization and central penetration of OCS NOP in the US. As I mentioned, this enabled us to achieve a new high watermark for overall case volume. In fact, to dispel any confusion about some of the outside commentary on lung transplantation in the US, OCS lung experienced approximately 14% sequential growth in 2Q.

We are not stopping here. We are already ramping up our investments to drive the next several waves of growth that we deliver substantially more top and bottom line growth for transmedics.

Our success has been, and will remain, fueled by the unique TransMedics Trident.

That is to say, our disruptive and technically unparalleled OCS technology platform.

Our revolutionary NOP service model and our unique dedicated transplant logistics network.

Now, let me turn to a more detailed outline of our 2q performance.

The results speak for themselves.

Total revenue for 2q 2025 was 157.4 Million.

Representing approximately 38% growth year-over-year and approximately 10% sequential growth from Q1 2025.

We experience sequential growth across all 3 organ, segments driven by higher overall utilization and Center penetration of OCS. NOP in the US,

as I mentioned this enabled us to achieve a new high water mark for overall case volume.

In fact, to dispel any confusion about some of the outside commentary on lung transplantation in the U.S.

Waleed Hassanein: Our overall gross margin for 2Q was steady at 61.4%, similar to Q1. Meanwhile, we delivered operating profit of approximately 36.6 million in 2Q, representing more than 23% of total revenue and up from 27.4 million or 19% of total revenue in 1Q 2025. Finally, we have driven strong cash generation. We have significantly improved our billing cycle and maintained healthy AR collections, which collectively resulted in the addition of approximately $90 million to our balance sheet as we ended 2Q with over $400 million in cash. We hope these results cement our commitment to profitable growth and cash generation. We are humbled by these results, but we have our sights laser-focused on achieving and surpassing the target of 10,000 US NOP transplants in 2028. Importantly, we're planning to go well above that target in subsequent years.

OCS lung experienced approximately 14% sequential growth in Q2.

Our overall gross margin for 2q was steady at 61.4% similar to q1.

Meanwhile, we delivered operating profit of approximately 36.6 million in 2q. Representing more than 23% of total revenue and up from 27.4 million or 19% of total revenue in 1 Q 2025.

Finally, we have driven strong cash generation.

We have significantly improved, our billing cycle and maintained healthy our collections, which collectively resulted in the addition of approximately 90 million to our balance sheet, as we ended 2q with over 400 million in cash.

We hope these results cement our commitment to profitable growth and cash generation.

We are humbled by these results.

But we have our sights laser-focused on achieving and surpassing the target of 10,000 NOP transplants in 2028.

Waleed Hassanein: In fact, our pipeline strategy of adding the OCS kidney platform is designed to position us to achieve at least over 20,000 annual US NOP transplants, as we will outline later in this call. We are also actively exploring options of expanding our NOP model internationally. This will enable TransMedics to potentially nearly double our total addressable market, as Europe represents 45% of the global transplant numbers. Stay tuned. We still have significant growth ahead of TransMedics, and we won't rest until we deliver it. Shifting now to TransMedics' transplant logistics infrastructure and performance. Transplant logistics service revenue for 2Q was $29.8 million, representing 56% year over year and 14% sequential growth. Throughout 2Q, we owned and operated 21 aircraft. In Q2, we covered 79% of our NOP mission requiring air transport, compared to 78% in Q1.

Well, above that target in subsequent years.

In fact, our pipeline strategy of adding the OCS kidney platform is designed to position us to achieve at least over 20,000 annual us, NOP transplant.

As we will outline later on this call.

We are also actively exploring options for expanding our NOP model internationally.

this will enable transmedics to potentially nearly double our total addressable Market as as Europe, represent, 45% of the global transplant numbers

Stay tuned.

We still have significant growth ahead of TransMedics.

And we won't rest until we deliver it.

Shifting now to transmedic transplant, Logistics infrastructure and performance.

Transplant Logistics, service revenue for 2q was 29.8. Million representing 56%, year-over-year and 14% sequential growth.

Throughout Q2, we owned and operated 21 aircraft.

Waleed Hassanein: So we're nearly at our target of covering 80% to 85% of our NOP missions requiring air transport. Meanwhile, we're continuing to add to our pilot crew to enable us to experiment with double shifting a portion of our fleet to run even a much more efficient operation by year-end. Moving now to update you on our next-gen OCS heart and lung clinical programs and the status of the FDA IDEs. We are pleased to report that we have received FDA conditional approval for the OCS lung IDE in July. We're continuing to collaboratively engage with FDA's leadership to address their final questions, and are planning to begin the trial initiation activities after the summer vacation season. On the OCS heart IDE, we feel we are very close to reaching similar agreement with the FDA leadership to enable the near-term launch of our clinical program.

In Q2, we covered 79% of our NOP mission, requiring air transport, compared to 78% in Q1. So, we're nearly at our target of covering 80% to 85% of our NOP missions that require air transport.

Meanwhile, we're continuing to add to our pilot crew to enable us to experiment with double shifting. A portion of our fleet will run even a much more efficient operation by year-end.

Moving now to update you, on our next gen OCS, Heart and Lung clinical programs, and the status of the FDA Ides.

We are pleased to report that we have received FDA conditional approval for the OCS Lung IDE in July.

We're continuing to collaboratively engage with fda's leadership to address their final questions and our planning to begin the trial, initiation activities after the summer vacation season.

Waleed Hassanein: Based on the progress achieved with FDA, we feel we remain on track to launch both programs before year-end. As discussed at our last call, we see these clinical programs as potential major growth catalysts for 2026, but we are not counting on them contributing to our financial results in 2025. Now, please allow me to directly and hopefully comprehensively address several misunderstood competitive commentary and the potential impact of US national transplant modernization initiatives that have become an unwarranted source of confusion and concerns recently. While we hold all companies operating in the field of organ preservation in very high regards, I want to be crystal clear that our expectation is that as TransMedics continue to execute and gain more market share, the results of our peers with smaller footprints in the market could be negatively impacted.

On the OC, on the OCS, heart IDE, we feel, we are very close to reaching similar agreement. With the FDA leadership to enable the near-term launch of our clinical program.

Based on the progress achieved with FDA. We feel we remain on track to launch both programs before year end

As discussed at our last call, we see these clinical programs as potential major growth catalysts for 2026, but we are not counting on them contributing to our financial results in 2025.

now, please allow me to directly

and hopefully comprehensively address several misunderstood competitive commentary.

And the potential impact of U.S. national transplant modernization initiatives that has become an unwarranted source of confusion and concerns recently.

While we hold all companies operating in the field of organ preservation in very high regard.

I want to be crystal clear that our expectation is that, as TransMedics, we continue to execute and gain more market share.

The results of our peers with smaller footprints in the market could be negatively impacted.

Waleed Hassanein: This should not come as a surprise or be misunderstood as a negative indicator of TransMedics' current or future performance. Please allow me to repeat this sentence again. As TransMedics continue to execute and grow our market share in a certain market, our peers with smaller footprints' results could be negatively impacted. This negative impact of our peers should not come as a surprise to the street or be misunderstood as a negative indicator of TransMedics' current or future performance. TransMedics can only be judged based on our own performance, based on our own technology in our own market. Also, specific to the lung market, we have been very transparent in our view that the poor and equivocal clinical results associated with the non-portable and non-blood-based perfusion technologies have contributed heavily to the current apathy for lung perfusion in the US.

This should not come as a surprise or be misunderstood as a negative indicator of transmedics, current, or future performance.

These allow me to repeat this sentence again.

As TransMedics continues to execute and grow, our market share in a certain...

Market.

Our peers with smaller footprints could be negatively impacted.

This negative impact of our peers, should not come as a surprise to the street or be misunderstood as a negative indicator of transmedics, current, or future performance.

Transmedics can only be judged based on our own Performance Based on our own technology in our own Market.

Also.

Specific to the lung Market.

Waleed Hassanein: Therefore, we see the recent competitive commentary on US trends in lung transplant as a validation of our thesis. In fact, it is because of the above dynamic that we designed the next-gen OCS lung program to comprehensively overcome these old preconceived negative sentiments existing within the US lung perfusion market. Specifically, we have designed the largest prospective randomized controlled trial in the history of lung preservation for transplant. Please remember that our INSPIRE trial was the largest at approximately 350, but the next-gen OCS trial will be even bigger than the INSPIRE trial. We're aiming at a total sample size that will exceed 450 DBD and DCD donor lungs that will be randomized between our next-gen OCS lung platform versus cold controlled static storage that is currently the standard of care.

We have been very transparent in our view that the poor and equivalent clinical results associated with the non-portable and non-blood-based perfusion technologies have contributed heavily to the current apathy for lung perfusion in the U.S.

Therefore, we see the recent competitive commentary on us, trends, and lung transplant as a validation of our thesis.

Who comprehensively overcome these old preconceived negative sentiments existing within the US lung perfusion Market.

Specifically, we have designed the largest prospective randomized control trial in the history of lung preservation for transplant.

Please remember that our inspired trial was the largest at approximately 350.

But the next-gen OCS trial will be even bigger than the INSPIRE trial.

We're aiming for a total sample size that will exceed 450 DBD and DCD donor lungs, which will be randomized between our next-gen OCS Lung platform and cold-controlled static storage, which is currently the standard of care.

Waleed Hassanein: We are confident that if the clinical trial achieves the same level of success that we've seen in our preclinical testing, that we will deliver far superior clinical outcomes without the limitations of time and distance. This will be supported by level one clinical evidence compared to the cold storage method that lacks any prospective clinical evidence. If successful, we fully expect that this will further establish the OCS lung as the next standard of care in lung preservation. With that, I will turn to our views on the longstanding and ongoing HRSA, CMS, US House, and congressional initiatives to modernize the US transplant system. First, let me start by stating my personal belief that the US transplant system is one of, if not the best, in the world. However, there's always room to improve and modernize to expand organ utilization while optimizing the care of transplant patients and donors.

We are confident that if the clinical trial achieves, the same level of success that we've seen in our pre-clinical testing that we will deliver far superior clinical outcomes without the limitations of time and distance.

This will be supported by Level 1 clinical evidence compared to the cold storage method that lacks any prospective clinical evidence.

If successful, we fully expect that this will further establish the OCS Lung as the next standard of care in lung preservation.

With that, I will turn to our views on the long-standing and ongoing HERSA, CMS, U.S. House, and Congressional initiatives to modernize the U.S. transplant system.

First, let me start by stating my personal belief that the US transplant system is 1 of if not the best in the world.

Waleed Hassanein: To be clear, TransMedics has been engaged publicly and privately with stakeholders on this topic, providing our views on how industry players like TransMedics can play a crucial role to support all stakeholders, including OPOs, and advance the transplant donation ecosystem in the United States. For context on our views on this topic, I would refer you to all, I would refer you all to our two public statements, from 2022 in response to the RFIs by both HRSA and CMS, and these statements are written statements published on both HRSA and CMS webpage. Importantly, the success of US NOP in facilitating the growth of overall national heart and liver transplant volume has not gone unnoticed, and we are working with every stakeholder of the US transplant ecosystem to ensure that they understand the following critical facts.

However, there's always room to improve a modernized to expand organ utilization while optimizing the care of transplant, patients and donors.

To be clear transmedics has been engaged publicly and privately with stakeholders on this topic, providing our views on how industry players. Like transmedics can play a crucial role to support all stakeholders including opioids and advanced the transplant donation ecosystem in the United States.

For context, on our views, on this topic, I would refer you to all, uh, I would refer you all to our 2 public statements uh from 2022 in response to the rfis by both first and CMS. And these statements are a written statement published on both hersa and CMS web page.

Importantly, the success of us. NOP in facilitating, the growth of overall National heart and liver transplant. Volume has not gone, unnoticed and we are working with every stakeholder of the US transplant. Ecosystem, to ensure that they understand the following critical facts

Waleed Hassanein: First, TransMedics' NOP is a win, win, win to every stakeholder in the US transplant system with an interest in saving more lives in the US. This includes OPOs, HRSA, CMS, commercial payers, and most importantly, patients and their families. Second, TransMedics' clinical value is supported and an impact on overall transplant volume is supported by hard data and facts that have been collected over the last three years through our NOP infrastructure. And finally, TransMedics is here to stay and ready to serve as a critical and trusted partner in the efforts to modernize the US transplant system to maximize donor organ utilization and save more American lives. As a show of our commitment to this goal, we have taken several actions. For example, we made significant investments to scale our digital NOP ecosystem to give maximum transparency to all US NOP transplant stakeholders.

First.

Transmedics NOP is a win, win win. Win to every stakeholder in the US transplant system with an interest in Saving more lives.

In the US.

This includes opos hersa, CMS commercial, payers, and most importantly patients, and their families.

Second, TransMedics' clinical value is supported, and the impact on overall transplant volume is backed by hard data and facts that have been collected over the last three years through our NOP infrastructure.

And finally transmedics is here to stay and ready to serve as a critical and trusted partner in the efforts to modernize the US transplant system to maximize donor. Organ utilization and save more American lives.

As a show of our commitment to this goal, we have taken several actions.

Actions, for example.

We made significant Investments to scale our digital NOP ecosystem.

Waleed Hassanein: We are expanding our leadership team with dedicated strategic and public affairs experts to ensure that TransMedics is well represented and our data is front and center to any discussions with the stakeholders. And finally, we are actively engaged with all stakeholders involved to make our positions clear and to avoid any misunderstandings or confusions. As you can imagine, emotions are running high for some, and we need to stay balanced and lead only with facts and data. Finally, we have several strategic initiatives underway to support this work above. We expect to provide more details as they unfold over the next several quarters. With that, I also want to take a moment to address a point of confusion following the review of a few unfortunate DCD cases in a recent New York Times article. Please let there be no uncertainty.

To give maximum transparency to all us. NOP, transplant stakeholders.

We are expanding our leadership team with dedicated strategic and public affairs experts to ensure that TransMedics is well represented and our data is front and center in any discussions with the stakeholders.

And finally, we are actively engaged with all stakeholders involved.

To make our positions, clear.

And to avoid any misunderstandings or confusions.

As you can imagine, emotions are running high for some, and we need to stay balanced and lead only with facts and data.

Several strategic initiatives are underway to support this work above.

We expect to provide more details as they unfold over the next several quarters.

With that. I also want to take a moment to address point. A point of confusion following, the review of few unfortunate DCd cases in a recent New York Times article

please.

Waleed Hassanein: The declaration of death for any DCD or DBD donation case in the United States is entirely independent of the organ procurement surgeons, whether it's TransMedics' NOP surgeon or any other procurement entity. This is purely and solely the responsibility of the independent declaring physician working for the donor hospital and contracted by the local OPO. There is a crystal clear line of demarcation of this particular clinical responsibility. Please remember that while this is a complex market dynamic, there are clear and established protocols in place and that TransMedics' NOP surgical procurement team strictly adheres to these established protocols. With that, let me return to the fundamentals of our business.

Let there be no uncertainty.

The declaration of death for any DCD or DBD donation case in the United States is entirely independent.

of the organ procurement surgeons, whether it's transmedics noop surgeon, or any other procurement entity,

This is purely and solely through the responsibility of the independent declaring physician working for the donor hospital and contracted by the local opio.

There is a crystal clear line of demarcation of this particular clinical responsibility.

Please remember that. While this is a complex market dynamic, there are clear and established protocols in place.

and that TransMedics' NOP surgical procurement team strictly adheres to these established protocols.

Waleed Hassanein: Our TransMedics OCS platform, the OCS NOP clinical support model, and the dedicated transplant logistics network, and more recently, the entire NOP digital ecosystem were all prospectively designed to give TransMedics a significant, unique position that could operate freely in both the current transplant system as well as any potential system of the future. We are not sitting still. We are working with all stakeholders to ensure that the success of our model in saving more American lives is well recognized and that we will continue to deliver cost-efficient transplant services that meet the highest clinical standard for our users, partners, and most importantly, patients in need. I want to repeat again, TransMedics is here to play a critical role and it's here to stay, whether in the current system or any system of the future.

With that, let me return to the fundamentals of our business.

Our transmedics OCS platform.

The OCS NOP. Clinical support model.

And the dedicated transplant logistics network and more. Recently, the entire NOP digital ecosystem was prospectively designed to give TransMedics a significant unique position that could operate freely in both the current transplant system as well as any potential system of the future.

we are not sitting still, we are working with all stakeholders to ensure that the success of our model in Saving, more American lives is well recognized, and that we will continue to deliver cost efficient transplant services that meet the highest clinical standard for our users partners and most importantly patients in need

I want to repeat again, transmedics, is here to play a critical role and it's here to stay whether in the current system or any system of the future.

Waleed Hassanein: Before I conclude, please allow me to now summarize at a high level ongoing and planned investment initiatives designed to catalyze growth over the next several years. More specifically, we intend to, one, expand our infrastructure footprint to best position us to scale well beyond 10,000 transplants and attract and retain top-tier talent capable of supporting our Gen 3 technology requirements. Specifically, we are now fully engaged in identifying the best location to be our new long-term global headquarters for TransMedics. Two, deliver on our OCS platform pipeline of OCS kidney, followed by Gen 3 OCS platform for heart, lung, and liver. Three, expand our entire US OCS NOP clinical and logistics team to meet the growing demand and minimize bottlenecks. Four, position ourselves to capitalize on any opportunities stemming from the national modernization initiatives. And finally, we are strategically exploring select geographical expansion opportunities.

Before I conclude, please allow me to now summarize at a high level ongoing and planned investment initiatives designed to catalyze growth over the next several years.

More specifically, we intend to expand our infrastructure footprint to best position us to scale well beyond 10,000 transplants and attract and retain top-tier talent capable of supporting our Gen 3 technology requirements.

Specifically, we are now fully engaged in identifying the best location to be our new long-term Global headquarters for transmatics.

2 deliver on our OCS platform pipeline of OCS, kidney followed by Jen 3 OCS platform for heart, lung and liver.

3, expand our entire us. OCS NOP. Clinical and Logistics team to meet the growing demand and minimize bottlenecks.

4 position ourselves to capitalize on any opportunities stemming from the national modernization initiatives.

Waleed Hassanein: This entails evaluating the potential for replicating the successful OCS NOP across several European countries. It has become increasingly clear that there is a significant interest for TransMedics to replicate our US success outside of the US, including the dedicated transplant logistics network in European countries. We are thrilled by this potential, and as we always say internally, if TransMedics doesn't do it, who would? Based on the above, you can see that we are not slowing down. To be clear, given the breadth and magnitude of opportunities ahead, combined with our demonstrated ability to generate operating leverage and free cash flow, our near-term capital allocation strategy is growth-oriented. Again, our near-term capital allocation strategy is focused on growth.

And finally, we are strategically exploring select geographical expansion opportunities.

This entails evaluating the potential for replicating the successful OCS NOP across several European countries.

It has become increasingly clear? That there is a significant interest for transmedics to replicate. Our us success outside of the us including the dedicated transplant Logistics Network in European countries.

We are thrilled by this potential.

and as we always say internally, if transmedics doesn't do it, who would

Based on the above, you can see that we are not slowing down.

To be clear, given the breadth and magnitude of opportunities ahead, combined with our demonstrated ability to generate operating leverage and free cash flow, our near-term capital allocation strategy is growth-oriented.

Waleed Hassanein: While our operating margin will fluctuate somewhat as we deploy capital across these initiatives, we have a high degree of confidence in our long-term ability to deliver substantial top and bottom-line growth while aiming at consistently maintaining positive cash generation. Now, let me conclude my remark by commenting on our expectation for the remainder of 2025. First, I'll remind you all that we are in Q3, which includes summer vacation season for our users in the US and outside of the US. We fully expect to see some minor and transient seasonality in our 3Q performance, similar to what we saw last year. To be clear, we expect this seasonality to be transient and minor in nature. Importantly, we fully expect to end the year strong as we did last year.

Again, our near-term capital allocation strategy is focused on growth.

While aiming at consistently maintaining positive cash generation.

now, let me conclude my remarks by commenting on our expectation, for the remainder of 2025,

First.

I'll remind you all that we are in Q3.

Which includes summer vacation season for our users in the US and outside of the US.

We fully expect to see some minor and transient seasonality in our 3Q performance, similar to what we saw last year to be clear. We expect this seasonality to be transient and minor in nature.

Waleed Hassanein: That being said, our exceptional first-half performance and strong overall trajectory give us the confidence to raise our full-year 2025 revenue guidance to between 585 and 605 million, representing approximately 35% growth over full-year 2024 at the midpoint. With that, let me turn the call to Gerardo to cover the detailed financial results for the quarter.

Importantly, we fully expect to end the year strong, as we did last year.

That being said, our exceptional first-half performance and strong overall trajectory give us the confidence to raise our full-year 2025 revenue guidance to between $585 million and $605 million, representing approximately 35% growth over the full year 2024, at the midpoint.

With that, let me turn the call over to Geraldo to cover the details of the financial results for the quarter.

Gerardo Hernandez: Thank you, Waleed. Good afternoon, everybody. I am pleased to be here to discuss TransMedics' strong second quarter results. Please note that a supplemental slide presentation detailing our second quarter of 2025 results is available in the investor section of our website. As Waleed highlighted, we sustain momentum through Q2 with discipline execution across the entire TransMedics team. Strong transplant volume growth, combined with the positive impact of our ongoing strategic investments, drove solid performance across both product and service lines, along with continued margin expansion and improved profitability. US transplant revenue was approximately 152 million, up 40% year over year and 10% sequentially. By organ, liver contributed with 116 million, heart 32 million, and lung 4 million. All US revenue was 4 million, down 12% from Q2 of 2024 and up 2% sequentially.

Thank you, Wally.

Good afternoon, everybody.

I am pleased to be here to discuss transmedic strong second quarter results.

Please note that a supplemental slide presentation detailing our second quarter 2025 results is available in the investor section of our website.

As well is highlighted, we sustain momentum through Q2 with discipline execution across the entire transmedic team.

Strong transplant volume growth, combined with the positive impact of our ongoing strategic investments, drove solid performance across both product and service lines, along with continued margin expansion and improved profitability.

U.S. transplant revenue was approximately $152 million, reflecting a 40% year-over-year increase and a 10% sequential growth.

By organ liver contributed with 116 million, heart, 32 million, and long, 4 million.

U.S. revenue was $4 million.

Gerardo Hernandez: All US revenue by organ was 3.5 million in heart, 0.4 million in lung, and 0.2 million in liver. Product revenue for the second quarter reached 96 million, up 34% year over year and 9% sequentially. Growth was driven by increasing organ utilization in liver and OCS adoption across both liver and heart. Service revenue for the second quarter reached 61 million, up 44% increase year over year and 11% sequentially. The primary driver was logistics revenue, which grew 56% year over year and 14% sequentially, fueled by the continued expansion and utilization of our aviation fleet. Total gross margin for the quarter was approximately 61%, representing an increase of 78 basis points compared to Q2 of 2024 and broadly aligned to Q1 of 2025. The year-over-year increase was primarily driven by 431 basis point improvement in service margin, reflecting higher TransMedics fleet utilization and cost efficiencies in logistics operations.

Down to 12% from Q2 of 2024 and up 2% sequentially.

All us Revenue by organ was 3.5 million in heart.

4 million in lung and 2 million in liver.

Product revenue for the second quarter reached 96 million of 34% year-over-year and 9% sequentially.

Growth was driven by increasing organ utilization in liver and OCS adoption across both liver and heart.

Service revenue for the second quarter reached 61 million of 44% increase year-over-year and 11% sequentially.

The primary driver was logistics revenue, which grew 56% year-over-year and 14% sequentially.

Silver. The continued expansion and utilization of our aviation fleet...

total gross margin for the quarter was approximately 61%.

Representing an increase of 78 basis points compared to Q2 of 2024 and broadly aligned to Q1 of 2025.

Gerardo Hernandez: Product margin was flat compared to Q2 of 2024 and declined 172 basis points sequentially, lastly due to higher freight expenses. The increase in freight was a deliberate action to accelerate inventory replenishment to our hubs. Overall, we are seeing the expected progress in gross margin improvement, driven by operational efficiencies and the benefit of scale. That said, we expect this improvement to moderate in the second half of the year as scheduled aviation fleet maintenance ramps up in Q3 and becomes more pronounced in Q4, as previously discussed in our Q1 call. Total operating expenses for the second quarter of 2025 were 60 million, up 6% year over year, and the increase was primarily driven by a 15% increase in R&D expenses, reflecting continued investment in our innovation pipeline and a ramping support to our product development capabilities.

The year-over-year increase was primarily driven by a 431 basis point improvement in service margin, reflecting higher TransMedics free utilization and cost efficiencies in logistics operations.

Product margin was flat, compared to Q2 of 2024 and the client 172 basis points sequentially. Lastly, due to higher Freight expenses, the increase in Freight was a deliberate action. To accelerate inventory, replenishment to our hubs.

Overall, we are seeing the expected progress in gross, margin Improvement, driven by operational efficiencies and the benefit of scale.

That said we expect this Improvement to moderate in the second half of the year as scheduled. Aviation Fleet Maintenance ramps up in Q3 and becomes more pronounced in Q4 as previously discussed in our q1 call.

Total operating expenses for the second quarter of 2025 were 60 million.

Gerardo Hernandez: SDNA expenses grew 3% year over year, driven by ongoing expansion of our IT infrastructure, investment in strategic growth initiatives, and the impact of inflation. Sequentially, total operating expenses were broadly aligned, as a modest increase was mostly offset by the absence of non-recurring legal expenses incurred in Q1 of 2025. Operating income for the quarter was 37 million, up 192% year over year and 33% sequentially. Operating margin expanded to 23% compared to 11% in the prior year and 19% in Q1 of 2025. Net income for the second quarter was 35 million, representing a 186% year-over-year increase and 36% sequentially. Earnings per share were $1.03, and diluted earnings per share were $0.92 for the second quarter of 2025. We ended the quarter with 401 million in cash, up 90 million from March 31st of 2025.

Of 6% year-over-year. The increase was primarily driven by a 15% increase in R&D expenses, reflecting continuing investment in our Innovation Pipeline and ramping support to our product development capabilities.

Sdna, expenses, grew 3%. Year-over-year driven by ongoing expansion of our it infrastructure investment in strategic growth initiatives and the in impact of inflation.

Sequentially total operating expenses were broadly in line as a modest increase was mostly offset by the absence of non-recurring legal expenses, incurred in q1 of 2025.

Operating income for the quarter was $37 million, representing a 192% year-over-year increase and a 33% sequential increase.

Operating margin expanded to 23% compared to 11% in the prior year and 19% in Q1 of 2025.

Net income for the second quarter was $35 million.

Representing a 186% year-over-year increase and a 36% sequential increase.

Earnings per share were $1.03, and diluted earnings per share were $0.92 for the second quarter of 2025.

Gerardo Hernandez: This increase was driven by strong operating cash generation, supported by meaningful improvements in our billing cycle, which, together with the continued healthy collections, reduced our accounts receivable balance, underscoring our commitment to process efficiency and our focus on efficient working capital management. Our first-half results reflect discipline execution, continued gains in operating efficiency, and meaningful progress in our clinical and innovation programs. Together with the scalability of our business model, these results continue to validate our ability to drive meaningful financial improvement and position the company for sustained momentum through the rest of 2025 and beyond. Looking ahead, given the strength of the business, as Waleed mentioned before, we are raising our full-year revenue guidance to a range of 585 million to 605 million, up from our prior range of 565 million to 585 million. This reflects approximately 35% growth over 2024 at the midpoint.

We ended the quarter with $401 million in cash, up $90 million from March 31, 2025.

This increase was driven by strong operating cash generation, supported by meaningful improvements in our billing cycle. Together with the continued healthy collections, this reduced our accounts receivable balance, reflecting our commitment to process efficiency and our focus on efficient working capital management.

Our first half results reflect discipline and execution, continued gains in operating efficiency, and meaningful progress in our clinical and innovation programs.

Together with the scalability of our business model, these results continue to validate our ability to drive meaningful financial improvement and position the company for sustained momentum through the rest of 2025 and beyond.

Looking ahead given the strength of the business as well as mentioned before. We are raising our full year Revenue guidance to arrange of 585 million to 65 million or from our prior range of 565 million to 585 million.

Gerardo Hernandez: Growth is expected to continue to be fueled by the expansion of total transplant volumes, increased OCS adoption, and the continued momentum across our service platform. Our updated guidance reflects the strength of our first-half results and sets a proven baseline for the second half, with clear room for upside as momentum continues. In terms of gross margin, we continue to expect overall gross margin to remain approximately at 60% over the coming years. This accounts for the various factors influencing both product and service margins beyond just mix. In terms of capital allocation, we are focused on initiatives that drive long-term value, balancing strategic growth with financial discipline to deliver sustainable, profitable growth. Our investments will continue to prioritize R&D to advance our pipeline, implement systems that simplify and automate core processes, and improve efficiency across our logistics operations.

This reflects approximately 35% growth over 2024 at the midpoint.

Growth is expected to continue to be fueled by the expansion of total. Transplant volumes increase OCS adoption and the Continuum of across our service platforms.

Our updated guidance, reflects the strength of our first half results and sets a proven Baseline, for the second half with clear room for offsite as momentum continues.

In terms of growth margin, we continue to expect overall growth margin to remain approximately eighty 60% over the coming years.

This accounts for the various factors influencing both product and service. Margins Beyond just mix.

In terms of capital allocations, we are focused on initiatives that drive long-term value balancing, strategic growth, with financial discipline to deliver sustainable profitable growth.

Gerardo Hernandez: One example of this approach is our double shifting pilot program, designed to optimize fleet utilization. We know additional jets will be needed to support continued growth, and this program will help determine the right fleet size to drive operational efficiency and maximize the return of our capital investments. We expect to see early outcomes of the program in the first half of 2026. While our target remains to own 22 jets by the end of 2025, we will continue to be opportunistic, moving forward only when the right conditions are in place. That may mean holding off on additional purchases this year or accelerating acquisitions if favorable opportunities arise. At the same time, we will make targeted investments to support growth well beyond 2028, including the development of our NOP network in selected international geographies.

For investments will continue to prioritize R&D, to advance our pipeline Implement systems, that simplify and automate core processes and improve efficiency across our Logistics operations.

One example of this approach is double shifting, a pilot program designed to optimize flip utilization.

We know additional support will be needed to sustain continuous growth.

And this program will help determine the right fleet size to drive operational efficiency and maximize the return on our capital investments.

We expect to see early outcomes of the program in the first half of 2026.

While our Target remains to own 22 yet, by the end of 2025, we will continue to be opportunistic moving forward. Only when the right conditions are in place, that may mean holding off on additional purchases this year or accelerating Acquisitions if favorable opportunities arise.

Gerardo Hernandez: Our plan moves to a new global headquarters to accommodate the growing scale and complexity of our business and continue with ongoing enhancements to our manufacturing and product development infrastructure. These initiatives are at different stages of implementation and will be rolled out over time. Together, they represent critical steps to position TransMedics for its next phase of growth as we work to surpass 10,000 transplant milestones and expand our global leadership in organ transplantation. Finally, with stronger top-line performance, continued efficiency gains, and spend discipline, we expect to deliver at least 650 basis points of operating margin expansion for the full year of 2025 compared to 2024. While quarterly variability is expected, as Waleed highlighted, we are confident in the full-year step-up, driven largely by greater leverage across our operating expense base. Over the long term, we are targeting an operating margin at or approaching 30% by 2028.

At the same time, we will make targeted Investments to support growth well beyond 2028, including the development of our NOP Network in selected International geographies. Our plan moved to a new Global headquarters to accommodate the growing scale and complexity of our business and continue with ongoing enhancements to our manufacturing and product development infrastructure.

These initiatives are at different stages of implementation and will be rolled out over time.

Together. They represent the critical steps to position transmedics for its next phase of growth as we work to surpass 10,000 transplant Milestone and expand our Global Leadership in organ transplantation.

Compared to 2024.

While quarterly variability is expected as well as highlighted. We are confident in the full year. Step Up driven largely by greater leverage across our operating expense space.

Gerardo Hernandez: The path may not be linear year over year as we continue investing in the capabilities and infrastructure outlined earlier. Our differentiated OCS technology, combined with our NOP and vertically integrated logistical capabilities, give us a unique advantage to broaden access globally. Built on these strengths and addressing the significant unmet need in organ transplantation, we believe TransMedics is well positioned to deliver sustainable growth, expand margins, and create substantial long-term shareholder value. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Waleed for closing remarks.

Over the long term, we are targeting an operating margin at or approaching 30% by 2028. The path may not be linear year-over-year as we continue investing in the capabilities and infrastructure outlined earlier.

Our differentiated OCS technology combined with our NOP and vertically integrated Logistics capabilities. Give us a unique advantage to broaden access globally.

Built on this Trends and addressing the significant unmet need in organ transplantation. We believe transmedics is well, positioned to deliver sustainable growth, expand. Margins, and create substantial long, long-term shareholder values.

And with that, I'll turn the call over to Waleed for closing remarks.

Waleed Hassanein: Thank you so much, Gerardo. Overall, we're very pleased with our 2Q performance, which once again underscored the unique attributes of TransMedics' business. TransMedics is not only a top-line grower, but also an increasingly profitable business capable of generating significant bottom-line leverage. We remain confident that this is just the beginning, and we believe we are well positioned to deliver sustainable long-term financial results while also investing significantly in our business as we gain more efficiency of scale and continue to deliver leverage throughout the operation. TransMedics is a very unique business, providing unparalleled life-saving solutions in a huge untapped market. We look forward to continuing our upward trajectory while saving more lives and delivering significant value to every transplant stakeholder, not just in the US, but globally. With that, I will now turn the call to the operator for Q&A. Operator?

Thank you so much.

Overall, we're very pleased with our 2q performance.

which once again, underscore the unique attributes of transmedics business,

transmedics is not only a Topline grower but also an increasingly profitable business capable of generating significant, bottom line, Leverage

Where a main confident, that this is just the beginning. And we believe, we are, well, positioned to deliver sustainable long-term Financial results. While also investing significantly in our business, as we gain more efficiency of scale and continue to deliver leverage throughout the operation.

TransMedics is a very unique business, providing unparalleled life-saving solutions.

In a huge untapped Market.

We look forward to continuing our upward trajectory while saving more lives and delivering significant value to every transplant. Stakeholders not just in the U.S. but globally.

With that, I will now turn the call to the operator for Q&A operator.

Operator: We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your touchstone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star, then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Alan Gong with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

We will now begin the question and answer session.

to ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your touchtone phone,

If you are using a speaker-phone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys.

if at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then 2

At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster.

The first question comes from Alan, going with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

Allen Gong: Thanks, team. So my first question is kind of going to be on the seasonality, right? And I think you've done a really good job of preparing us for seeing that kind of summer disruption from intoxications, from aviation maintenance. So I'm just curious about what you're seeing so far in July because, you know, we have access to the very high-level data showing kind of, you know, the summer dip as expected, but just curious to hear what you're seeing relative to expectations.

Thanks, team. So my first question is kind of going to be on the seasonality, right? I think you've done a really good job of preparing us for seeing that kind of summer disruption, from vacation, from aviation maintenance. So, I'm just curious about what you're seeing so far in July. Because, you know, we have access to the very high-level data showing kind of, you know, the summer dip as expected, but just curious to hear what you're seeing relative to the expectations.

Waleed Hassanein: Alan, thank you for the question. We're seeing some signs of seasonality, maybe not as pronounced as last year, but it's still, we're still early. You know, August is about to start, and so it's still early. So we assume some seasonality in Q3, given all the factors we described. And yeah, we are starting to see it in July. But again, what we've seen so far is, I would call it, slightly less impact than last year. But again, it's too early to really make that a trend.

Um, Alan, thank you for the question. Um, we're seeing, we're seeing, um, uh, some signs of seasonality. Maybe not as as um, um, uh, pronounced as last year, but it's still, uh, we're still early. Um, you know, August is is about to start and so it's still early. So we we assume some seasonality in, uh, in Q3 um, given all the factors we described. Um, and yeah, we are starting to see it in July.

But again, what we've seen so far, um, is I would call it um, slightly less impact than, than last year. But again, it's too early to really, uh, make that a trend

Allen Gong: Got it. And then kind of moving higher level to, you know, some of the news that's been coming out recently, the New York Times podcast that came out today, kind of talking about how, you know, there's a lot of pressure to grow organ volumes. You kind of corroborate what you're saying. You're a really important partner with that. And while, you know, you made it very clear that your side of the business is very separate from the side of the business that actually makes the determination of DCD, are you concerned at all that greater oversight over OPOs, over DCD usage could lead to, you know, unfortunately, like an impact on you just because there are fewer of those procedures happening, centers of being a bit more cautious, what have you?

Got it and then kind of moving higher level to, you know, some of the the news that's been coming out recently. The New York Times podcast that came out today. Kind of

Talking about how, you know, there's a lot of pressure to grow organ volumes that you kind of covering what you're saying, you're really important partner with that.

And while, you know, you made it very clear that your side of the business is very separate from the side of the business that actually makes the determination of DCd.

Are you concerned at all that?

Greater oversight over opos over DCd usage could lead to you know unfortunately like a impact on you just because there are fewer of those procedures happening. Uh, centers are being a bit more cautious. What have you?

Waleed Hassanein: Alan, that's a very important question. I think I actually, I see it as the opposite. I think some level of organization and organizational structure and oversight will actually benefit the transplant market, especially in DCD. You know, we all have been debating and discussing for the last two years this notion of NRP. That was haphazardly implemented. It cost the system a significant amount of dollars. It lost many organs unnecessarily. These organs could have been put in OCS, protected right away, saved these organs, and did it with a much more cost-efficient way. And, you know, unfortunately, it was haphazardly implemented in the system because of the lack of oversight. So we see this as just one example that some level of oversight could potentially be beneficial, not detrimental. But we have to wait and see.

And that's a very important question. Um, I think I actually see it as the opposite.

Organization and, um, um, organizational structure and oversight, um, will actually benefit the, the, the transplant Market in, especially in DCd. Um, you know, we we all have been debating And discussing for the last 2 years. This notion of NRP

Um, that was haphazardly implemented. A cost, the system significant amount of dollars, it lost many organs unnecessarily. These organs could have been put in OCS protected right away. Save these organs and did it with a much more cost-efficient way.

Waleed Hassanein: You know, as I try to highlight in my script, you know, we feel confident that the unique attributes of our business allow us to operate in the current system or any system in the future. And we stand by that statement.

And, um, you know, unfortunately, it was haphazardly implemented, um, in the system because of the lack of oversight, so we see this. As just 1 example, that some level of oversight is is actually could potentially be beneficial, not, um, detrimental. Um, but we have to wait and see, um, you know, as I try to highlight and my um, uh, script. Um, you know, we feel confident that the the unique attributes of our business allows us to operate in the current system, or any system in the future. And, uh, we we stand by that uh, statement.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Chris Pasquale with Nephron Research. Please go ahead.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from Chris, Pascal. With nephron research. Please go ahead.

Chris Pasquale: Thanks. And congrats on the quarter. Waleed, to start with, congratulations on getting the IDE approved for the lung trial. Just curious whether you can share if there were any substantive changes in the design of that trial with what you agreed to finally with the FDA relative to what you laid out in the proposal at ISHLT.

Waleed Hassanein: Chris, thank you for the question. The clinical trial design, as we know it, is not touched. Most of the remaining questions are actually focused on preclinical testing, working with the preclinical testing reviewer. So I'm not aware of any changes to the clinical trial design as we outlined in ISHLT. And we're looking forward to wrapping this part up and publishing the full design of the clinical program on clinicaltrial.gov sometime in late August, early September, as we approach the IRBs and the trial will be in the formal kind of initiation process.

Thank you. Congrats on the quarter uh Wally to start with congratulations on getting the ID approved for the lung trial, just curious, whether you can share, if there were any substantive changes in the design of that trial with what you agreed to finally, with the FDA relative to what you laid out in the proposal at ishlt.

Chris Pasquale: Great. Thank you. And I'm curious your thoughts on the US heart market. Your own business there continues to grow really nicely. Your penetration continues to tick up. But if we look at the last six to eight quarters now, the market itself has been relatively flat. We saw some growth in one cube that kind of reversed this quarter. And so we're still on that flattish trend. What do you think is holding back volumes in that segment? And maybe contrast that with the continued strong growth we're seeing in liver. And what can you do to get it growing again?

Um, Chris, thank you for the question. Um, the clinical trial design, um, as we know it is not touched most of the, uh, remaining question are actually focused on uh, pre-clinical testing, um, working with the pre-clinical testing, uh, reviewer. So, um, I'm not aware of any changes to the clinical trial design as, as we outlined in eyeshop. And we're looking forward to wrapping this, this part, uh, up and Publishing the full design of the clinical program on clinical trial.gov. Sometime in late, August early, September, as we approach the, uh, the irbs. And, uh, and the trial be will be in a formal kind of initiation process.

Great. Thank you. And then curious your thoughts on the US heart Market. Your own business there, continues to grow really nicely your penetration and continues to tick up, but if we look at the last 6 to 8 quarters, now the market itself has been relatively flat. We saw some growth in 1 Cube, that kind of reversed this quarter and so we're still on that flattish Trend. What do you think is holding back volumes in that segments and, and maybe contrast that with the continued strong growth, we're seeing in liver and what can you do to get it? Uh, growing again.

Waleed Hassanein: Chris, I think as we stated before, you know, heart getting double-digit growth last year or the year before, you know, last year and the year before, you know, overall heart market grew. So this is just the ebbs and flows of organ transplant, the waiting lists as waiting lists are being replenished. You know, so that's kind of the noise level, the detailed noise level that happens quarter to quarter. However, the way we are going to approach this and hopefully normalize this going forward is going to be through our clinical program. This is why we really are thrilled or anxious to get the heart clinical program approved like the lung and getting that rolled out because that you will see a lot of dynamic change once we introduce that next-gen heart technology.

Um,

Chris, I think, um, as we stated before, um, you know, it's hard getting double-digit growth last year, um, or the year before. You know, last year and the year before, um, you know, overall the heart market grew. So, this is just the ebb and flows of, uh, of organ transplant waiting lists, um, as waiting lists are being, um, replenished. Um, um, you know, so that's kind of the noise level, that detail noise level, that happens quarter to quarter. Um, however, the way we are going to approach this and hopefully normalize this going forward is going to be through our clinical program. This is why we, um, we’re really, um, uh, are, um,

Waleed Hassanein: But you know, we expect the market to rebound and this happens every now and then and it's probably multifactorial. But you know, again, Q3 has this noise level of seasonality, but I suspect the heart market will normalize by Q4 and hopefully into '26. With both the heart and lung next-gen activities underway, we're going to see significantly different dynamic in 2026. That's one, that's the majority of the reason. But also, we discussed this before, Chris, that you know, the growth of DCD, you know, with DCD, there's a higher rate of lack of progression, which ultimately impacts the heart the most. So that could be a factor for it. But that will also normalize as more oversight comes on board with DCD. So we look at this as a transient phenomena. We, you know, the rate of heart failure is not going down.

Are thrilled or anxious to get the hard clinical program um approved like the lung and getting that rolled out because that you will see a lot of dynamic change. Um, uh, once we introduce that next gen, uh, heart, uh, uh, technology.

Uh, but, you know, we expect the market to, uh, rebound. And, and this, this happens every now and then and it probably multifactorial. Um, but, you know, again Q3 has this noise level of seasonality. But I, I suspect the hard Market will will normalize by Q4 and hopefully into 26 with, with both the heart. And lung um, NextGen activities underway. We're going to see significantly different Dynamic. Um,

Higher rate of um, higher rate of um, lack of progression, which ultimately impacts the heart the most. Um, so um, that could be a a factor for it. But that will also normalize as as more oversight comes on board with DCd. Um, so, um,

Waleed Hassanein: The rate of waiting list expansion is not going down. We are playing a key role of opening up the supply of organs. So there's absolutely no reason why to believe that this transient phenomena of slowing down is going to be something that will stay with us for the long term.

Chris Pasquale: Great. Thank you, Waleed.

It it will it this is we we look at this as a transient uh phenomena we we you know the rate of heart failure is not going down the rate of waiting list. Expansion is not going down. Um, we are playing a key role of opening up the supply of organs so there's absolutely no reason why to believe that this transient phenomena of slowing down is going to be something that will stay with us. Uh, for for the for, for long term.

Great. Thank you, Willie.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question is from Josh Jennings with Coven. Please go ahead.

Thank you. Our next question, is from Josh Jennings with Cohen, please. Go ahead.

Chris Pasquale: Thanks. Good afternoon, Waleed. Congratulations on another strong quarter. I was hoping, I think you laid it out clearly that TransMedics is well positioned to thrive throughout this modernization of the US transplant network. I know your team and team at Gordon Sound in Washington DC, and you relayed that you've been meeting with the committees and you've been interacting with committees and congresspeople throughout this year. But do you see any headwinds for TransMedics as this US transplant network evolves, or is it simply, as you stated, you know, the technology, the NOP, the logistics are all driving transplant volume growth, and that is the goal of this modernization of the transplant network?

Thanks afternoon while you congratulations on another strong quarter. Uh, I was hoping I think you made it out clearly. The transmission is well, positioned to thrive uh, throughout this modernization of the US transplant network. Uh, I know your, your team and team of Gordon's down in Washington has seen you, you related, you've been meeting with the Committees and even interact with committees in Congress people, um, throughout this year. But do you see any headwinds for transmedics as this us transport Network evolves? Or is it simple?

As you stated, um, you know, the, the technology, the NOP. Um, the logistics are all driving transport line growth. And that is the, that is the, the, the goal of this modernization of the transplant Network.

Waleed Hassanein: Thank you for the question, Josh. I think, you know, I want to be very balanced in what I say to answer this question. I think the results of the NOP are, you know, black and white, and they are not going unnoticed by all the stakeholders. The major impetus for this transformation is what? Is growing the national transplant volume. The system has been at this for a good portion of the last five years. Guess who has been growing the national transplant volume in the US? None of these initiatives yet. It has been the NOP and the OCS and the vertical integration of logistics. That's not going unnoticed by the stakeholders. So headwinds, we're seeing none.

Thank you for the question Josh I think. Um um

You know, I want to be very balanced in what I say. Um, to answer this question. I think the results of the NOP. Um, uh, are are you know are um

Black and white and they're not going unnoticed by all the stakeholders. Um, the, the, the major,

um,

The impetus for this transformation is what is growing: the national transplant volume.

The system has been at this for a good portion of the last 5 years.

Guess who has been growing. The national transplant volume in the US.

None of these initiatives yet.

It has been the NOP and the OCS and uh um uh vertical integration of logistics.

Waleed Hassanein: But as you can imagine, the emotions on the other side of the equation could be running high, and there may be some fictitious fear that OPOs are worried that going to be some of them will be decommissioned and that TransMedics may want to take over. That's not our goal at all. We work with OPOs very collaboratively, in fact, because our goals are aligned. So that's why I want it to be balanced. Do we see headwinds from the stakeholders? No, because the data is clear. Our goals are aligned. It's a win-win for everybody. But because this is an emotional topic and sensitive topic to some of the major stakeholders that have been in a virtual kind of unipole for the last 40-plus years, you know, you should expect, we should expect, you know, some misunderstanding.

That's not going unnoticed by by the stakeholders. So, headwinds, um, we're seeing none, but as you can imagine the emotions on the other side of the equation could be running high, and there there may be some um fictitious fear that um uh opos are worried that going to be some of them will be decommissioned and that transmedics may want to take over. That's not our goal at all. We work with opos very collaboratively. In fact to because our goals are aligned. So that's why I wanted to be balanced. Um, do we see headwinds from their stakeholders know? Because the data is clear, our goals are aligned. It's a win-win for everybody. But, uh, because this is an emotional topic and sensitive topic to some of the major stakeholders that have been in a, in a, in a virtual, kind of, um,

Waleed Hassanein: And that's why we're overcommunicating and overengaged and always highlighting this is not to replace anybody. This is to work collaboratively with the existing system and any potential new modification to the system in the future. I hope I'm addressing your question, Josh.

Um, um, uh, unipole in, in, in, for the last 40, plus years. Uh, you know, uh, you should expect, we should expect, you know, some misunderstanding. And that's why we're over communicating and over engaged. And, and always highlighting. This is not to replace anybody. This is to work collaboratively with the existing system and any potential new modification to the to the system in the future.

Chris Pasquale: Yes, thank you very much. And then just a follow-up on the clinical trials, something you made nice progress with the FDA and expecting to start both trials for the year-end. I was wondering if you could share any progress with CMS just in terms of reimbursement for the trials, particularly in the study groups for heart and lung clinical development.

I hope I'm addressing your question, Josh.

Waleed Hassanein: We're not, yeah, we're not engaged with CMS, Josh, because we're already approved with the technology. The modifications we're having, we don't see this as requiring any CMS engagement at the moment.

Chris Pasquale: Understood. Okay. Thank you very much.

Yes, thank you very much. And then just a follow-up on the clinical trials, something to make nice progress with the FDA and, uh, expecting to start both trials, before the year of the end year year 4 year end. Um, with wondering if you could share any progress with with CMS, just, in terms of reimbursement, for the, for the trials, on the particularly, in the, in the, in the study groups for part and lung clinical appointment. Yeah. We're not, we're not engaged with that with with CMS Josh because we are already approved, um, with, with the technology, the the, the modifications we're having it's it, we we, we don't we, we don't see this as as, uh, uh, requiring, any CMS engagement at the moment.

Understood. Okay, thank you very much.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question is from Ryan Daniels with William Blair. Please go ahead.

Thank you.

Our next question is from Ryan Daniels with William Blair, please go ahead.

Matthew Mordula: Hey, this is Matthew Mordula. I'm from Ryan Daniels.Thank

Operator: you for taking our question. And I want to talk about the lung transplants. And I know lung transplants are a small percentage of your revenue right now. But how do you see the NextGen OCS helping penetrate into the lung transplants? I know you've mentioned before that the NextGen OCS will account for a small amount of revenue this year. But any insights into the growth of it next year or long term would be great to hear about.

Hey, this is Matthew, mullah on for Ryan, Daniels, thank you for taking our question. And I want to talk about the lung transplants and I know lung transplants are small percentage of your Revenue right now. But how do you see the next gen OCS? Helping penetrate into the long transplants. I, I know you've mentioned before that. The next gen OCS will account for small amount of Revenue this year, but any insights into the growth of the next year? Or, or long term would be great to hear about

Waleed Hassanein: Thank you for the question, Matt. I think I'll keep this high level. I think the lung trial or the NextGen OCS platform is designed to address the two or three major historical concerns that have plagued the US lung perfusion market based on the suboptimal outcomes seen at the early ex vivo perfusion study. So what are these perceptions? The perceptions are that the longer the lung is perfused, the higher the probability of the lung getting edematous. The longer the lung is perfused, it may not work after transplant. That sometimes the system is not protective of the lung, and there's a hesitation of taking a lung for proper evaluation on machine perfusion. There's the perception that putting the lung on ice overnight is safe. Why? Because there is no data to prove or disprove any of these subjective individual perceptions.

Thank you for the question, Matt. Um,

I I think I I'll keep this high level. Um, I think the long trial or the not the next gen OCS, platform is designed to address the 2 or 3 major historical concerns that have played, the US lung perfusion Market based on the, um, suboptimal outcomes seen at the early xvivo, um, uh, profusion study.

So what are these perceptions? The perceptions are that the longer the longer, perfused the higher, the probability of the lung getting adminis. Um, the longer, the lung is perfused, it may not work after transplant. Um, um, that sometime the system is not protective of the lung and, um, you know, there's a hesitation of taking a lung for proper evaluation on uh, machine perfusion. Um, um there's, um,

Waleed Hassanein: First, the OCS NextGen technology for lungs is designed to overcome all the limitations of the historical perfusion technologies that were in the market in the US. We reduce edema significantly. We maintain lungs for an extensive period of times exceeding 24 hours. Now, we're conducting the trial comparing ourselves to cold storage. And we're allowing the comparison for any types of lungs, DBD or DCD. So we will prove with level one evidence that the OCS will have a potentially superior outcome to cold storage. So we will kill two birds with one stone: one, overcoming the historical limitation of non-portable acellular perfusion, and we will hopefully unequivocally deliver level one evidence proving the superiority of the OCS platform over cold storage.

There is, um, uh, the perception that, uh, putting the lung on ice overnight, um, is safe, why? Because there is no data to, um, to approve or disprove any of these subjective? Um, individual perceptions. Um, first the OCS next gen technology for lungs is designed to overcome all the limitations of the historical, uh, profusion technologies that were in the market. In the US, we reduced the demand significantly. We maintain lungs for extensive period of time, uh, exceeding 24 hours. Now, we're conducting. The trial comparing ourselves to cold storage and we're allowing the comparison for any type of lungs, dbd or DCd. So, we will prove with level 1 evidence that the OCS will have, um, potentially Superior outcome to Cold Storage. So we will, we will kill 2 birds with 1 Stone, um, 1 over the historical limitation.

Waleed Hassanein: That's what gives us the excitement about the potential future of our lung NextGen platform to give us access, and not just access, to become the next standard of care in that market. That's why we're investing and putting our dollar and our investment where our mouth is to prove that we are superior in both fronts. That's what gives us the confidence and excitement. And we just can't wait to go execute this trial and actually deliver the level one evidence to prove it.

Of uh uh non-portable, uh um, a cellular profusion and we will hopefully unequivocally deliver level 1 evidence proving the superiority of the OCS platform over Cold Storage. That's what gives us the excitement about the potential future of our lung next-gen platform to give us access and not just access to become the next standard of care in that market. That's why we're investing and putting our

Dollar and our investment with our mouth is to prove that we are superior in both fronts. Um, that's what gives us the confidence and excitement and we just can't wait to go execute this trial and actually deliver the level 1 evidence to prove it.

Operator: Great. Thank you so much.

Great, thank you so much.

Waleed Hassanein: The next question comes from Matthew O'Brien with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

The next question comes from Matthew O'Brien with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Lynn Morgan: Hi, this is Samantha on for Matt. Thanks so much for taking our question and congrats on a good quarter. I guess I want to talk first about what you're hearing in the field about DCD donations. Are there any increasing concerns in the operating room following the New York Times article? And then also, I guess, bigger picture, where do we stand in terms of utilization of DCD organs? And how much more room is there to grow in that category?

Hi. This is Samantha on for Matt. Thanks so much for uh, taking our question and congrats on a good quarter. Um, I guess I want to talk first about um, what you're hearing in the field about DCd, donations, you know, are there any increasing concerns in the operating room following the New York Times article? And then also, I guess bigger picture, you know, where do we stand in terms of utilization of DCd organs and how much more room is there to, uh, to grow in that category?

Waleed Hassanein: Samantha, thank you for the question. We're not seeing any hesitation or concern or pullback on DCD donation. DCD donation is here to stay. It's a life-saving donation. It's really part of the renaissance that is happening in organ transplantation. The New York Times article incidences have been known in the field for a good portion of the last two years. This is not news, guys. Unfortunately, it was publicized as sensational news. But it's not news. In the people in the community have been hurt. We have heard about these cases for the last two years. So that's not news. And we're not seeing any pullback or concerns or anything like that. So that's number one. I'm sorry. Can you repeat the second part of the question one more time?

Um, um, Samantha, thank you for the question. We're not seeing any hesitation or concern, or pullback on DCD donation. DCD donation is here to stay. It's a life-saving donation. It's, um, um, it's really, uh, uh, part of the Renaissance that is, um, um, uh, happening in Oregon transportation. Um, the New York Times article incidences have been known in the field for a good portion of the last two years. This is not news, guys. Unfortunately, it was, you know, publicized as...

Lynn Morgan: Sure. Just about utilization of DCD organs and.

Sensational news, but it's not news in the people in the community been hurt. Have we have heard about these cases for the last 2 years. Um, so that's not news and we're not seeing any pullback or concerns or anything like that. So that's number 1. Um, I'm sorry. Can you repeat the second part of the question, 1 more time?

Waleed Hassanein: Oh, utilization of DCD.

Lynn Morgan: Go ahead.

sure just about um, utilization of DCd organs and

Waleed Hassanein: Yeah. The utilization of DCD remains unchanged between 50% and 55% that actually materialize to become a DCD donor. There's between 45% to 50% that does not progress to become a DCD. That number has not changed materially, at least across all three organs.

DCd.

Utilization of BCD remains unchanged, um, between 50 and 55%, um, that actually, um, materialized to become a DCd, donor. There's between, uh, 45 to 50%. That does not, uh, progress to become a DCd. That number has not changed materially, um, at least across all 3, organs,

Lynn Morgan: Great. Thank you. And if I can sneak in one more about the NextGen clinical program. I know you said previously that both arms of the trial will use the NOP service. How will that work specifically in the cold storage arm? Will that still generate revenue for you?

Great, thank you. And if I can think of 1,

1 more about the next gen clinical programs, um, and I you said, previously, that both arms of the trial will use the NOP service. You know, how will that work specifically in the cold storage arm? Will that still generate revenue for you?

Waleed Hassanein: Yes. The plan is both arms will go through NOP to maintain the blinding of the accepting surgeon. I will reserve the commentary on the revenue generation until we get the trial started just to make sure that we're not we need to wait and see how the rollout will be. But the expectation is there will be some revenue generated at least from logistics on the control arm. We're waiving the service fee for our surgeons and our team to procure these organs as a sign of good faith to make sure that we're not making any money on technologies that are not ours.

Um, I would, um, I would, um, yes, the plan is both arms. Um, uh, will will go through NOP, um, to, uh, to maintain, um, the blinding of the accepting surgeon. Um, I will reserve the commentary on the revenue generation and until we get the trial started, um, just to make sure that we, uh, we're not, uh, you know, um, uh,

We need to wait and and and and see how the uh, roll out will, uh, will be. But the expectation is, there will be some revenue generated, at least from Logistics on the on the control arm. We're waiving the service fee for our surgeons and our team to procure. These organs, uh, at a sign of good faith to make sure that we are not. We're not making any money on.

Technologies that are not ours.

Lynn Morgan: OK. Got it. Thank you so much.

Okay, got it. Thank you so much.

Waleed Hassanein: The next question comes from Bill Klauzonic with Canaccord. Please go ahead.

The next question comes from Bill plasmic with Cano cord. Please go ahead.

Lynn Morgan: Hi. It's Zachary Owen from Bill. Thank you for taking my question and congrats on the quarter. So you called out that it was heart and liver that drove the quarter. Just taking a step back, are there any share trends you wanted to call out in Q2, whether it's on the organs specifically or DBD and DCD broadly? Thank you.

Waleed Hassanein: Zach, thank you for the question. As you know, we don't comment on the share entire year. We talk about our share at year end because of the different variabilities between quarters. But we continue to take market share, both DBD and DCD, and heart and lung and liver. I'm sorry, heart and liver, and to a lesser extent lung just because the numbers are small.

Hi. It's Zachary, Owen from Bill. Thank you for taking my question and congrats on the quarter. So you call out that it was heart and liver, that drove the quarter. Um, just taking a step back. Are there any share Trends? You wanted to call out in Q2? Whether it's on the the organ specifically or DVD and DCd, broadly uh thank you.

Zack, thank you for the question. As you know, we don't comment on the shared entry year, we talked about our share at year end because of the different variabilities between quarters, but we continue to take market share uh both DVD and DCd, and heart, and lung and liver.

I'm sorry, heart and liver and to a lesser extent long just because the numbers are small

Lynn Morgan: Got it. Thank you. And do you have thoughts on any new competition coming into the liver market later this year?

Got it. Thank you. And do you have thoughts on any new competition coming in to deliver the market later this year?

Waleed Hassanein: Not that I'm aware of. Are you aware of any?

Not that I'm aware of.

Are you aware of any?

Lynn Morgan: Yeah. I mean, we've heard that there's private companies coming in, or at least one to be named, I guess. But I won't name them on your public call. But thank you for taking my question.

Waleed Hassanein: Thank you. We always welcome competition. It keeps us honest. And as long as we're all aiming to save lives, that's a great thing for organ transplant.

Yeah. I mean we were uh we've heard that there's private companies coming in uh or at least 1 to be named I guess. Uh but I won't, you know, name them on your, on your public call. But thank you for taking my question.

Thank you. We always welcome competition. You know, um, it keeps us honest. As long as we are all aiming to save lives, that's a great thing for organ transplant.

Lynn Morgan: Thank you. Our next question comes from Justin Wang with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Thank you.

Gerardo Hernandez: Hey, everyone. I'm just filling in for Patrick. Thanks for the questions. I was wondering if you could spend a few minutes to talk more about NOP access. What has early surgeon and center feedback been like? And how do you see this affecting the overall NOP ecosystem longer term? Separately, can you talk about how access will work with OCS Connect? Thank you.

Our next question comes from Justin Wong. With Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Hey, everyone. I'm just, uh, filling in for Patrick. Thanks for the questions. I was wondering if you could spend a few minutes to talk more about NOP access. What has early surgeon and center feedback been like, and how do you see this affecting the overall NOP ecosystem longer term? Separately, can you talk about how access will, um, work with OCS Connect? Thank you.

Waleed Hassanein: Thank you for the question. The early feedback with the first, I would say, a couple of dozens or three dozen users has been off the chart, exceeding our expectation. Again, it's still early. But we're pleased and humbled by that success. NOP Access is an expanded version of NOP Connect. So it's not two different platforms. The customer-facing part of the ecosystem is the Access. The backend-facing part of the ecosystem is NOP Connect. So it's one of the same. It's just, again, it's a part of the ecosystem. So they work simultaneously and homogeneously and seamlessly together.

Thank you for the question. Um, the early feedback with the first, uh, I would say couple of dozens or 3 dozen users has been off the chart. Uh, exceeding, our expectation. Um, again it's still early, uh, but you know, we're we're pleased and humbled by that success.

NOP access, um, is an expanded version of NOP connect. Um, so it's not 2 different platforms. The uh, customer facing, uh, part of the ecosystem, is the access, um, the back end, uh, facing part of the ecosystem, is NOP connect. So it's 1 of the same. Um, it just uh, again, uh, it's a part of the ecosystem. Um, uh, so they they work, uh, simultaneously and homogeneously and seamlessly together.

Gerardo Hernandez: Thank you.

Waleed Hassanein: And there's a third side to this, which is the logistics and route mapping portion of that, all of which work seamlessly together.

And there's a third third side to this, which is um the logistics uh and uh um uh route mapping uh portion of that.

So yeah, all of which work seamlessly together.

Gerardo Hernandez: Thanks.

Thanks.

Waleed Hassanein: The next question comes from Suraj Kalya with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

The next question comes from Suraj Kalia with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Gerardo Hernandez: Hi, Waleed and Kane. Congrats on a great quarter. Can you hear me all right?

Waleed Hassanein: We can hear you OK, Suraj. How are you?

Hi, Wally and team congrats on a great quarter. Can you hear me? All right.

Gerardo Hernandez: Good. Once again, Waleed, really good quarter. Kane, Waleed, and forgive me if I've screwed this up. I believe in the last quarter, you had said 2% to 5% of FY growth would come from the clinical trials. But I thought in your commentary, I heard you're not expecting any growth or any contributions from the clinical trials, but yet you're raising guidance. Did I get all of that right? Or did I misunderstand something there?

We can hear you. Okay. Raj, how are you?

Good. Um once again Wally uh really good quarter. Hey Wally and forgive me. If I've screwed this up, I believe in the last quarter you had said 2 to 5% of FY growth.

Would come from the clinical trials, but I thought in your commentary, I heard you are not expecting any growth from or any contributions.

From the clinical trials, but yet you all are raising guidance.

Waleed Hassanein: Thank you, Suraj. Let me clarify the first comment. The 2% to 5%, I believe, came during our investor day. So that's in December. Last call, end of year, we said we do not expect any substantial contribution. This quarter, we're saying we have enough organic growth that we're not even counting on any growth from the clinical trial in '25. As Gerardo said in his commentary, there is some potential upside. But just given the timing of initiation of these trials, I did not want the community to factor in any substantial growth or any growth for that matter in '25. There's enough organic growth in our business that we will meet the guidance as outlined.

Uh, did I get all of that right? Or did I misunderstand something there?

Thank you, sir, Raj. Um, Let me clarify the first comment, uh, the 225% I believe came, uh, during our investor day. Uh, so that's um, in December

Last year last call, um, end of year, we said we do not expect any substantial contribution, this quarter, we're saying we have enough organic growth that we're not even counting on any growth from the clinical trial in 25.

Gerardo Hernandez: Got it. And Waleed, for my follow-up question, for the NextGen OCS, the lung trial is obviously a superiority trial. And you mentioned a lot of factors contributing to poor lung uptake, reducing edema, graft failure, so on and so forth. Waleed, what parameters in the NextGen OCS specifically give you confidence in generating superiority? Is there a difference in perfusion parameters, event rate, assumptions in the null hypothesis? Any additional color at this stage that you can give us to help gauge the confidence of generating superiority? Gentlemen, congrats again. And thanks for taking my question.

Um, as Haru said, in his commentary, uh, there is some some potential upside but just giving the timing of initiation of these trials. I did not want the community to factor in, um, any substantial growth or any growth for that matter. In 25, there's enough organic growth in our business that we will meet, um, the the the guidance as outlined.

Got it. And well, if for my follow-up question, um, for the next-gen OCS, the LUMP trial is obviously a superiority trial.

And you mentioned a lot of factors contributing to poor lung uptake, reducing a demographic failure, uh, so on and so forth. Well, what parameters in the next-gen OCS?

Specifically, give you confidence in generating superiority. Is there a difference in? Yeah, peruse perfusion parameters, event rate assumptions in the null hypothesis. Any additional color at this stage that you can, uh, uh, give us?

Waleed Hassanein: Thank you very much for the question, Suraj. So the detail and all the statistics and assumptions will be outlined in the clinicaltrial.gov posting for the trial. But at a high level, what gives us the confidence is what is the most and most frequent and most damning short-term complication after lung transplant is primary graft dysfunction, grade 3. What is primary graft dysfunction grade 3? It's lung edema that compromises lung oxygenation capacity. What gives us the confidence is we reduced lung edema in our preclinical testing significantly compared to every control subject that we compared ourselves to. So in addition, we have revamped the ventilation system. We've revamped the perfusion flow to minimize hemolysis, all of which gives us better physiologic control over the lung perfusion and ventilation than we've ever had before. But again, until we replicate this in the clinical program, it's our thesis and hypothesis.

to help gauge the confidence of generating superiority gentlemen. Congrats again, and thanks for taking my questions. Thank you very much for the questions, rash. Um, um, we, um, so the, the detail and and all the statistics and and assumptions will be outlined in the clinical trials.gov um, um, uh, posting for the trial. But at a high level, what gives us the confidence is um, what is the most and

Waleed Hassanein: But we're excited that our preclinical results were that strong. So stay tuned.

What is the most and most frequent and most damning, um uh, short-term complication after lung transplant is primary graft dysfunction grade 3. Um, what is primary graphic, dysfunction grade? 3 is lung edema that compromised lung oxygenation capacity. Um, what gives us the confidence is? We reduced lung edema, um, in our preclinical testing significantly compared to, um, every control subject that we, um, uh, compared ourselves to. So, um, in addition we have, um, revamped the ventilation system we've revamped the, um, uh, um, profusion flow, uh, to minimize hemolysis, all of which, uh, gives us better physiological control, over the lung perfusion, and ventilation than we've ever had before. Uh, but again, uh, until we replicate this in in the clinical uh, program, uh, it's our thesis and hypo

But we're excited that, uh, our clinical, our pre-clinical, uh, results where that, with that strong. So, um,

Gerardo Hernandez: Thank you.

Um, stay tuned.

Thank you.

Waleed Hassanein: Our next question comes from David Riskott with Baird. Please go ahead.

Our next question comes from David reskit with bed. Please go ahead.

Gerardo Hernandez: Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Congrats on the really strong quarter here. I appreciate the comments on seasonality, typical Q3 seasonality that you've seen. There's been some focus on the third-party flight data just around the volumes or the trends in July. And I wanted to confirm, at least it looks like from our perspective, that pretty much the trends that you're seeing in July so far, quarter over quarter, are pretty much exactly what you saw last year in the month of July. So I wanted to clarify that at least nothing in July so far is different from the typical seasonality that you've seen.

Gerardo Hernandez: And when I think about the comments that you made already on it, when you look at what you saw last year on a quarter-over-quarter basis, kind of pulled down the US revenue down, I think, 3% to 5% or so on a quarter-over-quarter basis. So when you think about the way Q3 is shaking up, is there anything in your mind that leads you to believe that the seasonality you saw last year is not the right kind of guidepost for where seasonality can be shaken out this year?

What you saw last year on a quarter of a quarter basis, kind of pulled down the the US Revenue. Um, you know, down down I think 3 3 to 5% or so on a quarter over quarter basis. So when you think about the way Q3 shaking up, you know, is there anything in your mind that that leads you to believe that, that the seasonality of saw last year is not the right kind of, you know, guideposts for, For Worse. Seasonality can be shaken out this year.

Waleed Hassanein: Thank you, Dave, for the question. So let me address the first part. I'm only commenting on what we've seen in July. The flight tracker, we've always said it's not 100% accurate. And I'll leave it at that. You also have to remember that with our vertical integration of logistics, as well as the more physiologic protection of OCS, we're doing more ground transportation than flights sometimes. So again, third-party flight tracker, I know people are very proud of it. But it doesn't really it's not 100% a reflection of our business. So that's number one. Number two, what we're seeing in July doesn't give us any concerns or more concerns than what we have seen before as the typical seasonality that we've been seeing for the last two or three years and during the summertime. So we're not pushing panic buttons. We're not none of that.

Thank you, Dave. Um, for the question. Uh, so let me address the first part. Um, the um, the, the we're, I'm only commenting on what we've seen in July the, uh, flight tracker. We've always said it's not 100% accurate, uh, and I'll leave it at that. Um, you also have to remember that, uh, with our vertical integration of logistics, as well as the um, uh, more physiologic protection of OCS. Uh, we're doing more ground transportation than flights sometimes. So again, um, uh, third party flight tracker. I know people are very proud of it, but it doesn't really it's not 100% reflection of our business. So that's number 1, number 2. What we're seeing in in July doesn't give us any, uh, concerns, um, or more concerns than what we, uh, have seen before, as the typical seasonality that we've been seeing for the last 2 2 or 3 years and during the summer time. Um, so we're not pushing Panic buttons, we're not.

Waleed Hassanein: It's pretty much par for the course. If anything, as I commented, I believe, to Alan's question, it's slightly less impacted than last year. But again, it's early in the quarter. It could shake up to be like last year. It's still early in the quarter. And obviously, we can predict. As far as last year versus this year, overall, I don't think I have enough data points to say that last year is not the norm or is the norm. It's just last year is what was visible and resulted, as you said, exactly 3% to 5% down quarter over quarter. But we came back and recovered in Q4. And if you look at our H2, we grew 9% last year. I think these are, relatively speaking, good numbers to model going forward for this year. But I also would like Gerardo to comment from his perspective.

None of that. It's it's pretty much part for the course, if anything, as I commented, I believe to Alan's question. Um, it's it's slightly um, uh, less, uh, impacted than last year. But again, it's early in the quarter, it could, it could end. It could shake up to be, uh, like last year. Um, uh, it's still early in the quarter and obviously, we can, we can predict. Um, as far as last year versus this year. Uh, overall, I don't think, I don't think I have enough data points to say that last year, is not the norm, or is the norm. It just last year is what was visible. And, uh, resulted. As you said exactly 3 to 5%, um, uh, down quarter of a quarter, but we came back and recovered in Q4. And if you look at our H2, we grew 9% last year. I, I, I think these are relatively speaking, um, uh, good numbers to, uh, to model, uh,

Waleed Hassanein: Hi, David. I think a couple of days ago, there was an article where one of our covering analysts actually went back and reviewed the transplant volume seasonality between Q3 and Q4. I think it's since Q2, '23, and '24. And the result of the analysis basically says that there is seasonality, but the magnitude of the seasonality has been changing year over year. So there is no one specific, let's say, line or assumption that we could take for this year. I mean, we're confident in the full year. We know that there is going to be a deceleration in Q3. But we're going to get back and get within our guidance. And as I said, I think our guidance sets up a prudent baseline and with the potential upside to surpass.

Going forward for this year, um, I would also like her to comment, um, from his perspective.

Hi David. Uh, I think a couple of days ago, uh, there was an article where 1 of our covering analysts actually went back and and reviewed this. The transplant volumes is on ality between Q3 and Q4, but I think it's since Cube

2022, 23 and 24. And the result of the analysis, basically says that there's no

That there is seasonality, but the magnitude of the seasonality changes has been changing year over year. So there is no one specific, let's say, line or assumption that we could take for this year where we are.

Gerardo Hernandez: OK, perfect. And then on the operating margin guide that you have for the full year, you raised it versus the last quarter. Obviously, you raised it versus where you entered the year, implying kind of a step down in the expansion that you saw in the first half of the year. And so my question is more toward, if at all, I guess, what? And then if at all, is there any contribution contemplated in there from the clinical trials that are expected to be up and running by the back half of the year? And then when we think about the incremental dollar amount per case in the clinical trial into '26, when we start to model that in the model, how should we be thinking about how clinical trials are going to flow through the P&L, specifically kind of on the R&D and OpEx gross margin side?

I mean, we're we're confident in the full year. We know that there is going to be a deceleration in queue in Q3, but but we're going to get back and and get within our our guidance. And as I said, I think our guidance sets up a prudent Baseline. And and with the potential upside to, uh, to surpass

Okay, perfect. Um, and then on, um, you know, the operating margin guide that you have for the...

The full year, uh, you raised that uh, versus the the last quarter, obviously raise that versus where you entered the year. Um you know when implying kind of a a step down and the expansion that you saw on the first half of the year. And so my, my question is is more toward, um, you know, if at all, I guess what and then, you know, if at all? Is there any contribution, uh, contemplated in there from the clinical trials that are expected to be up and running by the back half of the year? And then when we think about the, you know, incremental dollar amount per case in the clinical trial in the 26th and we start to model that um, you know, you know, in the model, how should we be thinking about how clinical trials are going to flow through the

Gerardo Hernandez: Thank you.

Waleed Hassanein: Right. So let's say for this year first, the vast majority for increasing operating margin is gaining operating leverage at operating expenses level. That's where we're going to gain. As you may recall, I said at least 650 basis point increase. What is really driving the number is the amount of investments that we're expecting to have over the second half of the year. Now, some of those investments are in different stages. So depending on how they actually materialize, they could maybe slip into next year or not. So that's why I'm taking a conservative approach to say at least 650. There could be room for upside if we, for instance, get higher in our guidance range or we decide to move one of the projects, et cetera, to next year. So there is room.

The P analysis, specifically kind of on the R&D and uh you know Opex gross margin side. Thank you.

Alright. So, um

For.

Over the second half of the year now.

Waleed Hassanein: But it is not the contribution of the clinical program that is driving that improvement. It's actually our operating expenses and our planned investments in the second half of the year. I think for 2026, what I would like to say today is just reiterate what I said during the call. We are expecting to be at reaching or at 30%. We should be at or approaching 30% operating margin in 2028. The path is it may not be linear, but we're confident on that one. So I wouldn't want to talk about next year just yet. I think when it comes to provide a little bit more guidance of 2026, that's when I'll be sharing more thoughts.

Some of those Investments are in different stages. So depending on how the, they actually materialize, they could maybe slip into next year or not. So that's why, uh, we're taking a, I'm taking a conservative approach to say at least 650, there could be room room for upside. If we, for instance, get higher in our, uh, guidance range, or, or we decide to move 1 of the projects Etc to next year. So there is room but it is it is not the contribution of uh of the clinical program that is driving. Uh that Improvement is actually uh, you know, our our operating expenses and our uh plan investments in the in the second half of the year.

Um,

I think for 2026.

What I would like to say today is just to reiterate what I said during the call. We are expecting to be reaching or at...

30%.

30%, we should be at or approaching 30% operating margin uh, in 2028. Uh, the path is, it may not be linear just but but we're confident on that on that 1. So I wouldn't want to, uh, talk about next year just yet, I think.

when it comes to to provide a little bit more guidance of 2026, that's when when I'll be sharing more thoughts,

Gerardo Hernandez: Great. Thank you, Klauzon.

thank you.

Waleed Hassanein: Our next question comes from Mike Matson with Needham & Company. Please go ahead.

Gerardo Hernandez: Yeah. Thanks for fitting me in here. I guess I just want to ask one on the heart and lung clinical program. So I understand that's not going to have much of an impact this year. But looking at next year, how many of those patients that get enrolled in the trial do you think would kind of otherwise have been captured by TransMedics as transplants and you would have gotten OCS revenue from? In other words, is it going to be cannibalizing some of the existing business you otherwise would have had? Or is it going to 100% be additive to your lines?

Our next question comes from Mike Matson with Nethermine Company. Please go ahead.

Yeah, thanks. Thanks for fitting me in here. Um, I guess

Waleed Hassanein: Thank you for the question. I think, as we said before, it will be hundreds of patients that we actually don't have access to today. Out of the 450 lungs, we expect 300 patients that we don't have access to today. Out of another similar number for heart, about 300 or 350 of those are DBD hearts that we don't even have the indication for today. So we discussed this before. This is not to cannibalize our existing volume. This is to add and to increase our indication.

just want to ask 1 on the, The Hard 1 clinical program. So I understand that's not going to have much of an impact this year, but you know, looking at next year, um, you know, how many of those patients that get enrolled in the trial? Do you think would kind of otherwise have been captured by transmedics as as um, transplants and you've gotten very CS revenue. From in other words, is it going to be cannibalizing some of the existing business other? Otherwise, what I had or is it going to 100% be additive to your to your volumes?

Thank you for the question.

All right. I think, um,

um,

As we said before, it will be hundreds of patients that we actually don't have access to today.

Out of the 450 lungs, we expect 300 patients that we don't have access to today out of another similar number for her heart.

Um, we about 300 or 350 of those are DVD hearts that we don't even have the indication for today.

Gerardo Hernandez: Yeah. No, no. I know long term it would increase. I was just wondering if some of the patients that may have been.

Um, so uh, we we discussed this before, this is not the cannibalized, our existing volume this is to add and, and to increase our indication.

Waleed Hassanein: No, I'm talking about even at the short term.

Gerardo Hernandez: OK. All right. And then you commented on a lot of the headline in the quarter. But there was one thing I didn't really hear anything on. And I just thought I would ask about it. So one of your competitors, Organox, got approved for use of their device during flight. I know they don't have the logistics capabilities, at least as of now, or claims or anything like that. But do you think that that changes the competitive dynamic at all or makes them any more competitive and delivered than they already have been?

Yeah, no no. I know long term it would increase. I was just wondering if some of the patients that may have. No I'm talking about even at the short term.

Okay. Um, all right. And then um you know, you comment on a lot of the the headlines in in the quarter. But um there's 1 thing I didn't really hear anything on and I just thought I would ask about it. So you know, 1 of your competitors. Organized got approved for use with their device. Um, your current flight, I know they don't have a logistics capabilities so he says that now or planes or anything like that. But you know, do you think that that

Changes the competitive Dynamics at all or make them any more competitive in the river than they already have. Been.

Waleed Hassanein: Mike, I've stated before, and thank you for the question, the Organox device invented the back-to-base model for a reason. The device cannot fly. Even if you have to add wings to the device to be able to fly this device. This device is so large and so wide and so tall. Based on our knowledge of the configuration of aircrafts in the United States or charter flight, they would require a large jet to be able to, and not any large jet, to have that configuration. It's going to be too expensive to fly. And ultimately, the device doesn't have the battery capability. I think this is another unwarranted noise in the system that we don't see it at all. This device is designed to be a back-to-base model. Period.

Mike, um, I've stated before, and thank you for the question.

Um,

the organox device invented.

The back to base model for a reason.

The device cannot fly.

Even if you you have to add wings to the device to be able to fly this device.

This device is so large, and so wide, and so tall.

Based on our knowledge of the configuration of aircraft in the United States or charter flight, they would require a large jet.

To be able to, and, and not any large jet have that configuration. Um, it's going to be too expensive to fly and the ultimately, the device doesn't have the battery capability.

I think this is another unwanted noise in the system, um, that we don't, we don't see that, we don't see it at all. This device is designed to be back to base model.

Gerardo Hernandez: Understood.

Waleed Hassanein: Full stop.

Gerardo Hernandez: Thank you.

Waleed Hassanein: Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Waleed Hassanein for any closing remarks. Thank you all very much. Have a wonderful evening. And we look forward to continuing the dialogue. Bye. The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

Period. Understand. Yeah. Yeah.

Thank you.

This concludes our question and answer session.

I would like to turn the conference back over to Waleed Hassanein for any closing remarks.

Thank you all very much, have a wonderful evening and we look forward to, um, uh, continuing the dialogue.

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