Q2 2025 Cinemark Holdings Inc Earnings Call
Operator: Greetings. Welcome to Cinemark Holdings Q2 2025 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. The question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star 0 on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Chanda Brashears, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.
Operator: Greetings. Welcome to Cinemark Holdings Q2 2025 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.The question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star 0 on your telephone keypad. Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to Chanda Brashears, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.
Greetings, welcome to cinemar holding second quarter, 2025 earnings call.
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Chanda Brashears: Good morning, everyone. I would like to welcome you to Cinemark Holdings Inc.'s Q2 2025 Earnings Release Conference Call hosted by Sean Gamble, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Melissa Thomas, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that statements or comments made on this conference call may be forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements may include, but are not necessarily limited to, financial projections or other statements of the company's plans, objectives, expectations, or intentions. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause the company's actual results to materially differ from those expressed or implied in the forward-looking statements. The factors that could cause results to differ materially are detailed in the company's 10-K. Also, today's call may include non-GAAP financial measures.
Chanda Brashears: Good morning, everyone. I would like to welcome you to Cinemark Holdings Inc.'s Q2 2025 Earnings Release Conference Call hosted by Sean Gamble, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Melissa Thomas, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that statements or comments made on this conference call may be forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements may include, but are not necessarily limited to, financial projections or other statements of the company's plans, objectives, expectations, or intentions. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause the company's actual results to materially differ from those expressed or implied in the forward-looking statements. The factors that could cause results to differ materially are detailed in the company's 10-K. Also, today's call may include non-GAAP financial measures.
Good morning everyone. I would like to welcome you to cinema holding inc's. Second quarter 2025 earnings release conference call hosted by Shaun gamble, president and chief executive officer and Melissa, Thomas Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that statements are comments made on this conference call may be forward-looking statements forward-looking statements may include, but are not necessarily limited to financial projections or other statements of the company's plans objectives expectations or intentions.
These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause the company's actual results to materially differ from those expressed or implied in the forward-looking statements.
The factors that could cause results to differ materially our details in the company's 10K.
Chanda Brashears: A reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in the company's most recently filed earnings release, 10-Q, and on the company's website at ir.cinemark.com. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Sean Gamble.
Chanda Brashears: A reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in the company's most recently filed earnings release, 10-Q, and on the company's website at ir.cinemark.com. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Sean Gamble.
Also, today's call may include non-gaap Financial measures, a Reconciliation of these non-gaap Financial measures to the most directly comparable. Gaap Financial measures can be found in the company's most recently filed earnings, release 10 q and on the company's website at ir.com with that, I would now like to turn the call over to Sean Gamble.
Sean Gamble: Thank you, Chanda, and good morning, everyone. As we shared during our last call in May, Q2 launched out of the gates with the record-breaking results of A Minecraft Movie, which has now generated over $950 million in global box office proceeds. That film, coupled with a steady stream of highly compelling new releases week after week, ignited a surge of summer moviegoing momentum that propelled Q2 North American industry box office to $2.7 billion, which was up more than 35% year-over-year. Moreover, the substantial magnitude of that result flipped year-to-date tracking from a 12% deficit versus 2024 at the end of Q1 to a 14% gain by the end of June.
Sean Gamble: Thank you, Chanda, and good morning, everyone. As we shared during our last call in May, Q2 launched out of the gates with the record-breaking results of A Minecraft Movie, which has now generated over $950 million in global box office proceeds. That film, coupled with a steady stream of highly compelling new releases week after week, ignited a surge of summer moviegoing momentum that propelled Q2 North American industry box office to $2.7 billion, which was up more than 35% year-over-year. Moreover, the substantial magnitude of that result flipped year-to-date tracking from a 12% deficit versus 2024 at the end of Q1 to a 14% gain by the end of June.
Thank you Shonda and good morning, everyone.
As we shared during our last call in May the second quarter launched out of the gates with the record-breaking results of a Minecraft movie, which is now generated over 950 million dollars in global box office proceeds.
That film coupled with a steady stream of Highly compelling new releases week after week, ignited, a surge of Summer movie going momentum that propelled second quarter North American industry box office to 2.7 billion dollars which was up more than 35% year-over-year.
To year-to-date tracking from a 12% deficit versus 2024. At the end of the first quarter to a 14% gain by the end of June,
Sean Gamble: Consumer enthusiasm for theatrical experiences was on full display in Q2 as audiences turned up in mass for films like the genre-defying breakout hit Sinners, the high-flying live-action remake of How to Train Your Dragon, and Marvel's most recent Avenger adventure, Thunderbolts*. That enthusiasm also delivered an all-time high Memorial Day weekend at the box office, driven by the lovable Lilo & Stitch, which just exceeded $1 billion globally, as well as an adrenaline-pumping final reckoning in Mission: Impossible – The Final Reckoning. Audiences scared up a thrilling outsized result for Final Destination: Bloodlines, a sizable $60 million domestic run for the faith-based film The King of Kings, and a powerful heart racing victory lap for F1 that yielded Apple's most significant theatrical debut to date.
Sean Gamble: Consumer enthusiasm for theatrical experiences was on full display in Q2 as audiences turned up in mass for films like the genre-defying breakout hit Sinners, the high-flying live-action remake of How to Train Your Dragon, and Marvel's most recent Avenger adventure, Thunderbolts*. That enthusiasm also delivered an all-time high Memorial Day weekend at the box office, driven by the lovable Lilo & Stitch, which just exceeded $1 billion globally, as well as an adrenaline-pumping final reckoning in Mission: Impossible – The Final Reckoning. Audiences scared up a thrilling outsized result for Final Destination: Bloodlines, a sizable $60 million domestic run for the faith-based film The King of Kings, and a powerful heart racing victory lap for F1 that yielded Apple's most significant theatrical debut to date.
Consumer enthusiasm for theatrical experiences was on full display in Q2 as audiences turned up in mass for films, like the genre-defying breakout hit "Sinners."
The high-flying live-action remake of How to Train Your Dragon and Marvel's most recent Avenger Adventure Thunderbolts.
That enthusiasm also delivered in all-time high Memorial Day weekend at the box office driven by The Lovable Lilo and Stitch which just exceeded 1 billion dollars globally as well as an adrenaline pumping final Reckoning in Mission Impossible.
Furthermore, audiences scared up. A thrilling outsized result for Final Destination. Bloodlines
A sizeable 60 million dollar domestic Run for the faith-based film, The King of Kings and a powerful. Heart-racing Victory lap for F1 that yielded Apple's most significant theatrical debut to date.
Sean Gamble: That robust moviegoing momentum surged right into July with strong continued carryover from prior month releases, monstrous results for Jurassic World Rebirth, including the franchise's second highest opening of all time, a soaring Superman reboot that has ushered in a bold new era for DC Comics, and this past weekend's big first steps for The Fantastic Four, which opened to rave reviews and nearly $120 million of domestic box office that stretched well past expectations. While August and September are typically transitional months as box office tapers off with summer vacations winding down and school resuming, several exciting films are still to come in Q3, including a resurgence of comedies such as The Naked Gun, Freakier Friday, The Roses, and Spinal Tap II: The End Continues, more thrills and chills in films like Weapons, The Conjuring: Last Rites, and The Long Walk.
Sean Gamble: That robust moviegoing momentum surged right into July with strong continued carryover from prior month releases, monstrous results for Jurassic World Rebirth, including the franchise's second highest opening of all time, a soaring Superman reboot that has ushered in a bold new era for DC Comics, and this past weekend's big first steps for The Fantastic Four, which opened to rave reviews and nearly $120 million of domestic box office that stretched well past expectations. While August and September are typically transitional months as box office tapers off with summer vacations winding down and school resuming, several exciting films are still to come in Q3, including a resurgence of comedies such as The Naked Gun, Freakier Friday, The Roses, and Spinal Tap II: The End Continues, more thrills and chills in films like Weapons, The Conjuring: Last Rites, and The Long Walk.
And that robust movie-going momentum surged right into July with strong continued carryover from the prior month. Releases monstrous results for Jurassic World: Rebirth, including the franchise's second highest opening of all time.
Soaring, Superman reboot. That is ushered in a bold New Era for DC Comics and this past weekend's big first steps for the Fantastic 4 which opened to rave reviews and nearly 120 million dollars of domestic box office that stretched well past expectations.
Sean Gamble: Fresh original titles like A Big Bold Beautiful Journey and One Battle After Another, new installments of The Bad Guys, Downton Abbey, and Demon Slayer. The Q4 is primed to accelerate once again with a further array of action, comedy, thrills, family affair, and spectacle, including Tron: Ares, Mortal Kombat II, A New Take on The Running Man, Zootopia 2, the exciting conclusion to last year's sensation in Wicked: For Good, Five Nights at Freddy's 2, and of course, Avatar: Fire and Ash, just to name a few. Looking beyond 2025, the 2026 film slate is already shaping up to be an incredible year. Audiences can look forward to new chapters in beloved franchises like The Avengers, Spider-Man, Minions, Toy Story, Shrek, The Hunger Games, and Mario Brothers, alongside innovative original concepts from visionary filmmakers like Christopher Nolan, Jordan Peele, and Steven Spielberg.
Sean Gamble: Fresh original titles like A Big Bold Beautiful Journey and One Battle After Another, new installments of The Bad Guys, Downton Abbey, and Demon Slayer. The Q4 is primed to accelerate once again with a further array of action, comedy, thrills, family affair, and spectacle, including Tron: Ares, Mortal Kombat II, A New Take on The Running Man, Zootopia 2, the exciting conclusion to last year's sensation in Wicked: For Good, Five Nights at Freddy's 2, and of course, Avatar: Fire and Ash, just to name a few. Looking beyond 2025, the 2026 film slate is already shaping up to be an incredible year. Audiences can look forward to new chapters in beloved franchises like The Avengers, Spider-Man, Minions, Toy Story, Shrek, The Hunger Games, and Mario Brothers, alongside innovative original concepts from visionary filmmakers like Christopher Nolan, Jordan Peele, and Steven Spielberg.
And while August and September are typically transitional months, as box office tapers off with summer vacations, winding down and school resuming, several exciting films are still to come in the third quarter. This includes a resurgence of comedies such as "The Naked Gun," "Freaky Friday," "The Roses," and "Spinal Tattoos." The end continues with more thrills and chills in films like "The Equalizer," "The Conjuring: Last Rites," and "The Long Walk."
Fresh original titles like a big bold, beautiful journey, and 1 battle after another and new installments of the bad guys. Downton Abbey and Demon Slayer.
And then the fourth quarter is primed to accelerate once again with a further array of action, comedy Thrills Family, Fare and spectacle including Tron. Aries Mortal Kombat 2. A new take on the Running Man. Zootopia 2. The exciting conclusion to last year's sensation in Wicked for good 5 Nights at Freddy's 2 and of course Avatar fire and Ash just to name a few
Looking Beyond 2025, the 2026 film slate, is already shaping up to be an incredible year.
Spider-Man Minions, Toy Story, Shrek, The Hunger Games, and Mario Brothers, alongside innovative original concepts from visionary filmmakers like Christopher Nolan, Jordan Peele, and Steven Spielberg.
Sean Gamble: This strong lineup of films on the horizon, coupled with sustained consumer enthusiasm for cinematic experiences, underscores our continued confidence in the future of theatrical exhibition. Amid this positive industry trajectory, Cinemark's execution stood out once again in Q2 with outperforming results that are indicative of our advantaged market position and the continued impact we are deriving from our strategic initiatives. Our team fully capitalized on the strength of moviegoing during the quarter, sustaining the core structural market share gains we have achieved over the past several years, while further benefiting from a sizable mix of family titles that accounted for three of the quarter's top four films and more than 40% of 2Q box office.
Sean Gamble: This strong lineup of films on the horizon, coupled with sustained consumer enthusiasm for cinematic experiences, underscores our continued confidence in the future of theatrical exhibition. Amid this positive industry trajectory, Cinemark's execution stood out once again in Q2 with outperforming results that are indicative of our advantaged market position and the continued impact we are deriving from our strategic initiatives. Our team fully capitalized on the strength of moviegoing during the quarter, sustaining the core structural market share gains we have achieved over the past several years, while further benefiting from a sizable mix of family titles that accounted for three of the quarter's top four films and more than 40% of 2Q box office.
This strong lineup of films on the horizon. Coupled with sustained consumer, enthusiasm for cinematic experiences underscores our continued confidence in the future of theatrical exhibition.
Amid this positive industry trajectory, Cinemark's execution stood out once again in the second quarter, with outperforming results that are indicative of our advantaged market position and the continued impact we are deriving from our strategic initiatives.
Our team fully capitalized on the strength of movie-going during the quarter, sustaining the core structural market share gains we have achieved over the past several years. We further benefited from a sizable mix of family titles that accounted for 3 of the quarter's top 4 films and more than 40% of Q2 box office.
Sean Gamble: Furthermore, we also continued to realize upside from our efforts to take full advantage of non-traditional programming opportunities, which drove more than 10% of our admissions revenues for the fourth straight quarter in a row as audience appeal for foreign, repertory, faith-based, content creator, and concert films continues to grow. These collective actions helped us deliver several impressive box office records during Q2, including our highest quarterly domestic admissions revenues since the pandemic and our third highest quarterly result of all time. We also achieved our biggest Memorial Day weekend ever, as well as a record-high opening for a family film with A Minecraft Movie. Importantly, we were able to translate these accomplishments into meaningful overall operating and financial results.
Sean Gamble: Furthermore, we also continued to realize upside from our efforts to take full advantage of non-traditional programming opportunities, which drove more than 10% of our admissions revenues for the fourth straight quarter in a row as audience appeal for foreign, repertory, faith-based, content creator, and concert films continues to grow. These collective actions helped us deliver several impressive box office records during Q2, including our highest quarterly domestic admissions revenues since the pandemic and our third highest quarterly result of all time. We also achieved our biggest Memorial Day weekend ever, as well as a record-high opening for a family film with A Minecraft Movie. Importantly, we were able to translate these accomplishments into meaningful overall operating and financial results.
Furthermore, we also continue to realize upside from our efforts to take full advantage of non-traditional programming opportunities, which drove more than 10% of our admissions, revenues for the fourth straight quarter. In a row as audience appeal, for foreign reparatory. Faith-based content, creator and concert films continues to grow
These Collective actions helped us deliver several impressive box office records during the second quarter, including our highest quarterly domestic admissions revenues since the pandemic and our third highest quarterly result of all time.
We also achieved our biggest Memorial Day Weekend ever as well as a record, high opening for a family film with a Minecraft movie.
Importantly, we are able to translate these accomplishments into meaningful, overall operating and financial results.
Sean Gamble: Through solid execution and making the most of opportunities to delight our guests, our sensational team grew revenue 28% year-over-year to $941 million during Q2, as we entertained 58 million patrons across our global circuit. Adjusted EBITDA increased a further 63% to $232 million, with over 500 basis points of margin expansion to 24.7%. We're very proud to report that our Q2 Adjusted EBITDA marked our second highest quarterly achievement in the history of our company, trailing only to Q2 of 2019, which included Avengers: Endgame, the second highest grossing film of all time.
Sean Gamble: Through solid execution and making the most of opportunities to delight our guests, our sensational team grew revenue 28% year-over-year to $941 million during Q2, as we entertained 58 million patrons across our global circuit. Adjusted EBITDA increased a further 63% to $232 million, with over 500 basis points of margin expansion to 24.7%. We're very proud to report that our Q2 Adjusted EBITDA marked our second highest quarterly achievement in the history of our company, trailing only to Q2 of 2019, which included Avengers: Endgame, the second highest grossing film of all time.
Through solid execution and making the most of opportunities to Delight our guests, our Sensational team, grew Revenue, 28% year-over-year to 941 million during the second quarter as we entertained 58 million patrons across our Global circuit.
Adjusted IBA increased the further 63% to 232 million with over 500 basis points of margin expansion to 24.7%.
We're very proud to report that our second quarter adjusted IBA marked our second highest quarterly achievement in the history of our company. Trailing only 2 Q of 2019, which included Avengers endgame. The second highest grossing film of all time.
Sean Gamble: As mentioned, our ability to consistently generate solid outperforming results is rooted in the differentiated competitive advantages we've cultivated over time, as well as the benefits we continue to gain from our growth and productivity initiatives. Examples include the quality and reliability of our technology, presentation, and guest experiences, the highly loyal customer base we've nurtured for many, many years, and our industry-leading marketing and operating capabilities. For instance, we maintain a heightened focus on making sure our guests receive a premium experience when they come to our Cinemark theaters, regardless of which auditorium they choose.
Sean Gamble: As mentioned, our ability to consistently generate solid outperforming results is rooted in the differentiated competitive advantages we've cultivated over time, as well as the benefits we continue to gain from our growth and productivity initiatives. Examples include the quality and reliability of our technology, presentation, and guest experiences, the highly loyal customer base we've nurtured for many, many years, and our industry-leading marketing and operating capabilities. For instance, we maintain a heightened focus on making sure our guests receive a premium experience when they come to our Cinemark theaters, regardless of which auditorium they choose.
As mentioned, our ability to consistently generate solid outperforming results is rooted in the differentiated competitive advantages. We've cultivated over time as well as the benefits. We continue to gain from our growth and productivity initiatives.
Examples include the quality and reliability of our technology, presentation, and guest experiences.
The highly loyal customer base we've nurtured for many, many years.
And our industry-leading marketing and operating capabilities.
Sean Gamble: Doing so includes the significant amount of time and energy we put into training and coaching our teams to deliver top-notch guest service. The careful curation of food and beverage choices we serve to appeal to a wide range of diverse preferences, and the considerable levels of investment we spend on maintaining the entirety of our theaters, which continues to exceed our peers. In addition to general overall maintenance, this investment includes further expanding reclining seats across our circuit, which now spans 70% of our domestic footprint, and are consistently one of our most highly sought-after amenities. It also includes diligently maintaining our best-in-class xenon projection technology with a staggering 99.98% screen uptime across thousands of showtimes per day, as well as continuing to advance a multiyear conversion to Barco laser projectors that will reach nearly 25% of our circuit by year-end.
Sean Gamble: Doing so includes the significant amount of time and energy we put into training and coaching our teams to deliver top-notch guest service. The careful curation of food and beverage choices we serve to appeal to a wide range of diverse preferences, and the considerable levels of investment we spend on maintaining the entirety of our theaters, which continues to exceed our peers. In addition to general overall maintenance, this investment includes further expanding reclining seats across our circuit, which now spans 70% of our domestic footprint, and are consistently one of our most highly sought-after amenities. It also includes diligently maintaining our best-in-class xenon projection technology with a staggering 99.98% screen uptime across thousands of showtimes per day, as well as continuing to advance a multiyear conversion to Barco laser projectors that will reach nearly 25% of our circuit by year-end.
For instance, we maintain a heightened, focus on making sure our guests receive a premium experience when they come to our cinema theaters, regardless of which Auditorium, they choose.
Doing so includes the significant amount of time and energy. We put into training and coaching our teams to deliver top-notch, guest service, the careful curation of food. And beverage choices we serve to appeal to a wide range of diverse preferences and the considerable levels of investment we spend on maintaining the entirety of our theaters, which continues to exceed our peers.
In addition to general overall maintenance, this investment includes further expanding reclining seats across our circuit, which now spans 70% of our domestic footprint and is consistently one of our most highly sought-after amenities.
It also includes diligently. Maintaining our best-in-class. Xenon projection technology with a staggering. 99.98%, screen up time across thousands of showtimes per day.
As well as continuing to advance a multi-year conversion to Barco laser projectors, that will reach nearly 25% of our Circuit by year end.
Sean Gamble: Altogether, these holistic efforts that benefit the totality of our theaters continued to earn us positive satisfaction scores from approximately 95% of our guests during Q2. They also helped us to grow our food and beverage per caps in both the US and Latin America to new highs, with the US exceeding $8 for the very first time at $8.34. Simultaneously, we also continue to lean into growing the volume of upgrades we provide our guests that appeal to audiences who want a further enhanced and differentiated experience.
Sean Gamble: Altogether, these holistic efforts that benefit the totality of our theaters continued to earn us positive satisfaction scores from approximately 95% of our guests during Q2. They also helped us to grow our food and beverage per caps in both the US and Latin America to new highs, with the US exceeding $8 for the very first time at $8.34. Simultaneously, we also continue to lean into growing the volume of upgrades we provide our guests that appeal to audiences who want a further enhanced and differentiated experience.
Altogether. These holistic efforts that benefit the totality of our theaters.
and continue to earn us, positive satisfaction scores from approximately 95% of our guests during the second quarter,
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Sean Gamble: Already today, we offer 315 premium large format auditoriums across our global circuit, six ScreenX auditoriums that provide an expanded 270 degree panoramic range of view, and the largest footprint of D-BOX motion seats in the world with installations throughout more than 450 of our auditoriums. During the Q2, our D-BOX revenues reached an all-time high, and our XD PLF screens generated their second-highest quarterly box office results ever. Based on this strong demand, we continue to add more PLFs throughout our theaters. We recently executed an agreement to introduce an additional 80 D-BOX auditoriums over the course of this year and next. Just this week, we announced plans to roll out 20 more ScreenX experiences by the end of 2026.
Sean Gamble: Already today, we offer 315 premium large format auditoriums across our global circuit, six ScreenX auditoriums that provide an expanded 270 degree panoramic range of view, and the largest footprint of D-BOX motion seats in the world with installations throughout more than 450 of our auditoriums. During the Q2, our D-BOX revenues reached an all-time high, and our XD PLF screens generated their second-highest quarterly box office results ever. Based on this strong demand, we continue to add more PLFs throughout our theaters. We recently executed an agreement to introduce an additional 80 D-BOX auditoriums over the course of this year and next. Just this week, we announced plans to roll out 20 more ScreenX experiences by the end of 2026.
Simultaneously. We also continue to lean into growing the volume of upgrades. We provide our guests that appeal to audiences, who want to further enhanced and differentiated experience.
Already today, we offer 315 premium large format auditoriums across our Global Circuit 6 Screen X. These auditoriums provide an expanded 270-degree panoramic range of view and the largest footprint of D-BOX motion seats in the world, with installations throughout more than 450 of our auditoriums.
During the second quarter, our dbox revenues reached an all-time high, and our XD PLF screens generated their second highest quarterly box office results ever.
Based on this strong demand, we continue to add more plfs throughout our theaters. We recently executed an agreement to introduce an additional 80d box auditoriums over the course of this year. And next, and just this week, we announced plans to roll out, 20 more screenx experiences by the end of 2026.
Sean Gamble: The investments we've made and continue to make in our theaters, amenities, service, and experiences have earned us tremendous loyalty from our guests. Too has our ongoing focus on creating meaningful perceived value for our patrons and simplifying our customer journey from buying a ticket and concessions to enjoying a film in a plush luxury lounger seat. A great example of doing so is the significant impact we've achieved through our loyalty programs. Members who participate in our free Cinemark Movie Rewards program grew to account for more than 55% of our domestic box office proceeds in Q2. Moreover, those who participate in our paid Movie Club subscription program and who are some of our most satisfied customers, have driven almost 30% of our domestic box office over the past two quarters.
Sean Gamble: The investments we've made and continue to make in our theaters, amenities, service, and experiences have earned us tremendous loyalty from our guests. Too has our ongoing focus on creating meaningful perceived value for our patrons and simplifying our customer journey from buying a ticket and concessions to enjoying a film in a plush luxury lounger seat. A great example of doing so is the significant impact we've achieved through our loyalty programs. Members who participate in our free Cinemark Movie Rewards program grew to account for more than 55% of our domestic box office proceeds in Q2. Moreover, those who participate in our paid Movie Club subscription program and who are some of our most satisfied customers, have driven almost 30% of our domestic box office over the past two quarters.
The investments we've made and continue to make in our theaters, amenities, service, and experiences have earned us tremendous loyalty from our guests.
So, our ongoing focus is on creating meaningful perceived value for our patrons and simplifying our customer journey—from buying a ticket and concessions to enjoying a film in a plush luxury lounger seat.
A great example of doing so is the significant impact we've achieved through our loyalty programs?
Members who participate in our free Cinemark Rewards program, grew to account for more than 55% of our domestic box office proceeds in the second quarter.
Sean Gamble: MovieClub now has 1.45 million members, which is up 12% year-over-year and over 50% since 2019. The significant value and benefits our guests derive from both MovieClub and Cinemark Rewards continue to drive increased moviegoing frequency, higher food and beverage consumption, more active upgrades to enhanced offerings, and importantly, substantial loyalty to Cinemark. Additionally, our direct connection with these guests enables us to personalize our interaction with them, providing tailored and relevant information in our communications that further enriches their engagement with Cinemark. It also meaningfully supplements our broader marketing efforts as we work to build awareness and excitement for upcoming films.
Sean Gamble: MovieClub now has 1.45 million members, which is up 12% year-over-year and over 50% since 2019. The significant value and benefits our guests derive from both MovieClub and Cinemark Rewards continue to drive increased moviegoing frequency, higher food and beverage consumption, more active upgrades to enhanced offerings, and importantly, substantial loyalty to Cinemark. Additionally, our direct connection with these guests enables us to personalize our interaction with them, providing tailored and relevant information in our communications that further enriches their engagement with Cinemark. It also meaningfully supplements our broader marketing efforts as we work to build awareness and excitement for upcoming films.
Moreover those who participate in our paid Movie Club, subscription program, and who are some of our most satisfied. Customers have driven almost 30% of our domestic box office over the past 2 quarters.
Movie Club now has 1.45 million members, which is up 12% year-over-year and over 50% since 2019.
The significant value and benefits are guests. Derived from both Movie Club and Cinemark rewards continue to drive increased moviegoing, frequency higher food, and beverage consumption, more active upgrades to enhance offerings and importantly, substantial loyalty to Cinemark.
Additionally, our direct connection with these guests enables us to personalize our interaction with them, providing tailored and relevant information in our communications. That further enriches their engagement with Cinema.
Sean Gamble: With marketing reach to over 32 million addressable consumers globally, we can very effectively and efficiently amplify studio campaigns by targeting audiences that are most inclined to see a particular film and offering them an easy and immediate opportunity to buy tickets. Throughout Q2, we continued to leverage this network in our varied studio collaborations across social and digital media channels, in promotions and partnerships with varied third-party retailers, and to strengthen our own independent advertising. Finally, as we pursue these extensive marketing efforts to build our audiences in tandem with the added enhancements we are making to our theaters, our beneficial loyalty programs, and the memorable experiences we offer our guests, we focus on doing so as efficiently as possible without compromising quality. Productivity is a key priority throughout our company, as is the strength and diligence of our operating practices.
Sean Gamble: With marketing reach to over 32 million addressable consumers globally, we can very effectively and efficiently amplify studio campaigns by targeting audiences that are most inclined to see a particular film and offering them an easy and immediate opportunity to buy tickets. Throughout Q2, we continued to leverage this network in our varied studio collaborations across social and digital media channels, in promotions and partnerships with varied third-party retailers, and to strengthen our own independent advertising. Finally, as we pursue these extensive marketing efforts to build our audiences in tandem with the added enhancements we are making to our theaters, our beneficial loyalty programs, and the memorable experiences we offer our guests, we focus on doing so as efficiently as possible without compromising quality. Productivity is a key priority throughout our company, as is the strength and diligence of our operating practices.
It also meaningfully supplements our broader marketing efforts as we work to build awareness and excitement for upcoming films.
With marketing reach to over 32 million addressable consumers globally. We can vary, effectively and efficiently amplify Studio campaigns by targeting audiences that are most inclined to see a particular film and offering them an easy and immediate opportunity to buy tickets.
Throughout the second quarter, we continue to leverage this network in our varied Studio collaborations across social and digital media channels in promotions and Partnerships with varied third-party retailers and to strengthen our own independent advertising.
And finally, as we pursue these extensive marketing efforts to build our audiences in tandem with the added enhancements, we are making to our theaters our beneficial loyalty programs and the memorable experiences we offer our guests, we focus on doing so as efficiently as possible without compromising quality.
Sean Gamble: For example, the concentrated attention we place on achieving these objectives enabled us to increase domestic labor hours by only 13% year-over-year during the Q2, despite a 3% expansion in our operating hours and a 27% growth in domestic attendance while sustaining our high levels of guest satisfaction, as mentioned earlier. Overall, the Q2 once again demonstrated the strength and resilience of theatrical exhibition, as well as Cinemark's ability to fully capitalize on upswings in moviegoing. As a steadier cadence of compelling films were released into theaters, audiences continued to showcase their enduring enthusiasm for larger-than-life cinematic experiences, and we were able to deliver one of our most profitable quarters of all time.
Sean Gamble: For example, the concentrated attention we place on achieving these objectives enabled us to increase domestic labor hours by only 13% year-over-year during the Q2, despite a 3% expansion in our operating hours and a 27% growth in domestic attendance while sustaining our high levels of guest satisfaction, as mentioned earlier. Overall, the Q2 once again demonstrated the strength and resilience of theatrical exhibition, as well as Cinemark's ability to fully capitalize on upswings in moviegoing. As a steadier cadence of compelling films were released into theaters, audiences continued to showcase their enduring enthusiasm for larger-than-life cinematic experiences, and we were able to deliver one of our most profitable quarters of all time.
productivity is a key priority throughout our company as is the strength and diligence of our operating practices,
For example, the concentrated attention, we place on achieving these objectives enabled us to increase domestic labor hours. By only 13% year-over-year during the second quarter, despite a 3% expansion in our operating hours and a 27% growth in domestic attendance, while sustaining our high levels of guest satisfaction as mentioned earlier,
overall the second quarter once again, demonstrated the strength and resilience of theatrical exhibition, as well as sinem, Mark's ability to fully capitalize on upswings in movie going
As a steadier cadence of compelling films was released into theaters, audiences continued to showcase their enduring enthusiasm for larger-than-life cinematic experiences, and we were able to deliver one of our most profitable quarters of all time.
Sean Gamble: Looking forward, we remain highly encouraged about the film pipeline ahead. We believe Cinemark remains exceptionally well-positioned to thrive on account of our solid financial and operating foundation, as well as the benefits we continue to obtain from our strategic initiatives. I'll now pass the call over to Melissa, who will share more about our Q2 results. Melissa?
Sean Gamble: Looking forward, we remain highly encouraged about the film pipeline ahead. We believe Cinemark remains exceptionally well-positioned to thrive on account of our solid financial and operating foundation, as well as the benefits we continue to obtain from our strategic initiatives. I'll now pass the call over to Melissa, who will share more about our Q2 results. Melissa?
Solid financial and operating foundation, as well as the benefits we continue to obtain from our strategic initiatives.
I'll now pass the call over to Melissa who will share more about our second quarter results, Melissa.
Melissa Thomas: Thank you, Sean. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining the call today. Our robust Q2 results reflect a compelling film slate that clearly resonated with audiences, as well as the successful execution of our strategic initiatives to drive revenue and efficiently scale our operations. The team's commitment to operational excellence enabled us to maximize the opportunities presented in the quarter and deliver strong financial results. In Q2, global attendance grew 16% year-over-year to 57.9 million patrons, and worldwide revenue increased 28% to $945 million. We delivered $232.2 million of Adjusted EBITDA and expanded our Adjusted EBITDA margin by 530 basis points to 24.7%, reflecting increased operating leverage driven by the attendance growth in the quarter, as well as improved monetization and productivity advancements.
Melissa Thomas: Thank you, Sean. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining the call today. Our robust Q2 results reflect a compelling film slate that clearly resonated with audiences, as well as the successful execution of our strategic initiatives to drive revenue and efficiently scale our operations. The team's commitment to operational excellence enabled us to maximize the opportunities presented in the quarter and deliver strong financial results. In Q2, global attendance grew 16% year-over-year to 57.9 million patrons, and worldwide revenue increased 28% to $945 million. We delivered $232.2 million of Adjusted EBITDA and expanded our Adjusted EBITDA margin by 530 basis points to 24.7%, reflecting increased operating leverage driven by the attendance growth in the quarter, as well as improved monetization and productivity advancements.
Thank you, Sean. Good morning everyone and thank you for joining the call today.
Our robust second quarter results, reflect a compelling film slate. That clearly resonated with audiences, as well as the successful execution of our, strategic initiatives, to drive revenue and efficiently scale, our operations.
The team's commitment to operational excellence. Enables us to maximize the opportunities presented in the quarter, and deliver strong financial results.
In the second quarter, global attendance grew 16% year-over-year to 57.9 million patrons.
And worldwide Revenue, increased 28%?
To 940.5 million.
We delivered 232.2 million of adjusted evida and expanded. Our adjusted Eva down margin by 530 basis points to 24.7%.
Reflecting increased operating leverage driven by the attendance growth in the quarter as well as improved to monetization and productivity, advancements.
Melissa Thomas: Domestically, we entertained 36.9 million guests. We continued to sustain strong market share gains compared with pre-pandemic levels. In addition to the structural gains we have made over the past few years, our market share in the quarter benefited from a favorable content mix, including family films like A Minecraft Movie, Lilo & Stitch, and How to Train Your Dragon, which connected particularly well with our audiences. We delivered $383.4 million in domestic admissions revenue with an average ticket price of $10.39 for the Q2. Our average ticket price increased 5% year-over-year, primarily driven by strategic pricing initiatives and, to a lesser extent, favorable format and ticket type mix, given the composition of the film slate in the quarter.
Melissa Thomas: Domestically, we entertained 36.9 million guests. We continued to sustain strong market share gains compared with pre-pandemic levels. In addition to the structural gains we have made over the past few years, our market share in the quarter benefited from a favorable content mix, including family films like A Minecraft Movie, Lilo & Stitch, and How to Train Your Dragon, which connected particularly well with our audiences. We delivered $383.4 million in domestic admissions revenue with an average ticket price of $10.39 for the Q2. Our average ticket price increased 5% year-over-year, primarily driven by strategic pricing initiatives and, to a lesser extent, favorable format and ticket type mix, given the composition of the film slate in the quarter.
Domestically we entertained 36.9 million guests and we continue to sustain strong market share gains compared with pre-pandemic levels.
In addition to the structural gains we have made over the past few years, our market share in the quarter benefited from a favorable content mix, including family films like a Minecraft movie, Lilo and Stitch, and How to Train Your Dragon, which connected particularly well with our audiences.
We delivered $383.4 million in domestic admissions revenue, with an average ticket price of $10.39 for the second quarter.
Our average ticket price increased 5% year-over-year, primarily driven by strategic pricing initiatives and, to a lesser extent, favorable format and ticket type mix given the composition of the film slate in the quarter.
Melissa Thomas: We grew domestic concession revenue by a substantial 33% year-over-year to $307.6 million. This performance marks a significant milestone for us as it is the first time we have exceeded $300 million in concession revenue in a single quarter, representing our highest quarterly concession revenue ever. Our concession per cap increased 5% year-over-year to an all-time high of $8.34 due to strategic pricing actions, a favorable shift in product mix fueled by growth in merchandise sales, and higher incidence rates. Other revenue was $68.3 million and grew 28% compared with Q2 2024, primarily due to the higher attendance levels, which contributed to increased promotional income and transaction fees as well as gaming revenue.
Melissa Thomas: We grew domestic concession revenue by a substantial 33% year-over-year to $307.6 million. This performance marks a significant milestone for us as it is the first time we have exceeded $300 million in concession revenue in a single quarter, representing our highest quarterly concession revenue ever. Our concession per cap increased 5% year-over-year to an all-time high of $8.34 due to strategic pricing actions, a favorable shift in product mix fueled by growth in merchandise sales, and higher incidence rates. Other revenue was $68.3 million and grew 28% compared with Q2 2024, primarily due to the higher attendance levels, which contributed to increased promotional income and transaction fees as well as gaming revenue.
We grew domestic, concession Revenue by a substantial 33% year-over-year to 307.6 million.
This performance marks is significant milestone for us.
As it is the first time we have exceeded million dollars in concession Revenue, in a single quarter.
Representing our highest quarterly concession Revenue ever.
Our concession per cap, increased 5% year-over-year to an all-time high of 8.34.
due to strategic pricing actions, a favorable shift in product, mix fueled by growth in merchandise sales,
And higher incidence rates.
Other Revenue was 68.3 million and grew 28%. Compared with the second quarter of 2024, primarily due to the higher attendance levels, which contributed to increased promotional income and transaction fees as well as Gaming revenue.
Melissa Thomas: Altogether, our domestic segment generated our highest quarterly revenue ever with $759.3 million, representing an increase of 33% year-over-year. Adjusted EBITDA grew 73% to $188.1 million, yielding a robust Adjusted EBITDA margin of 24.8%, representing a 580 basis point expansion versus the prior year period. Turning to our international segment, we hosted 21 million guests during Q2, in line with the same period last year. Our attendance benefited from the solid performance of family titles, which helped to offset the prior year's challenging comparison, driven by the exceptional success of Inside Out 2, which over-indexed in Latin America and was the region's highest grossing film of all time.
Melissa Thomas: Altogether, our domestic segment generated our highest quarterly revenue ever with $759.3 million, representing an increase of 33% year-over-year. Adjusted EBITDA grew 73% to $188.1 million, yielding a robust Adjusted EBITDA margin of 24.8%, representing a 580 basis point expansion versus the prior year period. Turning to our international segment, we hosted 21 million guests during Q2, in line with the same period last year. Our attendance benefited from the solid performance of family titles, which helped to offset the prior year's challenging comparison, driven by the exceptional success of Inside Out 2, which over-indexed in Latin America and was the region's highest grossing film of all time.
Altogether, our domestic segment. Generated our highest quarterly Revenue ever with 759.3 million representing, an increase of 33% year-over-year.
Percent to 188.1 million yielding, a robust adjusted Eva. Margin of 24.8% representing a 580 basis point expansion versus the prior year period.
Turning to our International segment. We hosted 21 million guests during the second quarter in line with the same period last year. Our attendance benefited from the solid performance of family titles which helped to offset the prior Year's challenging comparison driven by the exceptional success of insight out to which over-indexed in Latin America and was the Region's highest growth in.
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Melissa Thomas: Like the US, we maintained strong market share gains in Q2 compared with pre-pandemic levels, delivering more than 100 basis points of growth versus Q2 of 2019. Internationally, we generated $83.7 million of admission revenue, $70.1 million of concessions revenue, and $27.4 million of other revenue in Q2. In total, international revenue grew 12% year-over-year to $181.2 million. Adjusted EBITDA increased 32% to $44.1 million with a strong 24.3% Adjusted EBITDA margin that expanded 380 basis points year-over-year.
Melissa Thomas: Like the US, we maintained strong market share gains in Q2 compared with pre-pandemic levels, delivering more than 100 basis points of growth versus Q2 of 2019. Internationally, we generated $83.7 million of admission revenue, $70.1 million of concessions revenue, and $27.4 million of other revenue in Q2. In total, international revenue grew 12% year-over-year to $181.2 million. Adjusted EBITDA increased 32% to $44.1 million with a strong 24.3% Adjusted EBITDA margin that expanded 380 basis points year-over-year.
Like the us we maintain strong market share gains in the second quarter compared with pre-pandemic levels delivering more than 100 basis points of growth versus Q2 of 2019.
Internationally, we generated 83.7 million of admission Revenue.
70.1 million of concessions, revenue, and 27.4 million of other Revenue in the second quarter.
In total International Revenue, grew 12% year-over-year to 181.2 million.
Adjusted evaa increased 32% to 44.1 million with a strong 24.3% adjusted deep down. Margin that expanded 380 basis points year-over-year.
Melissa Thomas: Moving to global expenses, film rental and advertising expense was 58% of admissions revenue, up 220 basis points year-over-year due to an increased concentration of high grossing films and higher marketing spend as we leaned into the strength of this quarter's film slate. Concession costs as a percent of concession revenue were 19.4%, a 10 basis point increase compared with the Q2 of last year, driven by a higher mix of merchandise sales which have a lower margin than our core concession offerings and ongoing inflationary pressures on certain concession categories. These impacts were largely offset by benefits from our strategic pricing actions and higher rebates.
Melissa Thomas: Moving to global expenses, film rental and advertising expense was 58% of admissions revenue, up 220 basis points year-over-year due to an increased concentration of high grossing films and higher marketing spend as we leaned into the strength of this quarter's film slate. Concession costs as a percent of concession revenue were 19.4%, a 10 basis point increase compared with the Q2 of last year, driven by a higher mix of merchandise sales which have a lower margin than our core concession offerings and ongoing inflationary pressures on certain concession categories. These impacts were largely offset by benefits from our strategic pricing actions and higher rebates.
To Global expenses.
Expenses were 58% of admissions. Revenue increased by 220 basis points year-over-year, due to an increased concentration of high-grossing films and higher marketing spend as we leaned into the strength of this quarter's film slate.
Concession costs as a percent of concession, Revenue were 19.4%.
A 10 basis point increase. Compared with the second quarter of last year, driven by a higher mix of merchandise sales, which have a lower margin than our core concession offerings,
And ongoing inflationary pressures on certain concession categories.
These impacts were largely offset by benefits from our strategic pricing actions and higher rebates.
Melissa Thomas: Global salaries and wages were $109.4 million, up 12% year-over-year due to an increase in labor hours to accommodate higher attendance levels and expanded operating hours, as well as wages and benefits inflation, partially offset by labor productivity initiatives and favorable foreign exchange rate fluctuations. As a percentage of total revenue, salaries and wages decreased 170 basis points to 11.6%. Facility lease expense was $82.9 million, an increase of 2% compared with Q2 2024, reflecting higher percentage rent, given the stronger year-over-year box office results and inflationary increases, partially offset by foreign exchange rate favorability. As a percentage of total revenue, facility lease expense declined 230 basis points to 8.8%.
Melissa Thomas: Global salaries and wages were $109.4 million, up 12% year-over-year due to an increase in labor hours to accommodate higher attendance levels and expanded operating hours, as well as wages and benefits inflation, partially offset by labor productivity initiatives and favorable foreign exchange rate fluctuations. As a percentage of total revenue, salaries and wages decreased 170 basis points to 11.6%. Facility lease expense was $82.9 million, an increase of 2% compared with Q2 2024, reflecting higher percentage rent, given the stronger year-over-year box office results and inflationary increases, partially offset by foreign exchange rate favorability. As a percentage of total revenue, facility lease expense declined 230 basis points to 8.8%.
Global salaries and wages were $109.4 million.
Up 12% year-over-year due to an increase in labor hours, to accommodate higher, attendance levels, and expanded, operating hours, as well as wages and benefits inflation.
Partially offset by labor productivity initiatives and favorable foreign exchange rate fluctuations.
As a percentage of total revenue salaries and wages, decreased 170, basis points to 11.6%.
Facility. Lease expense was 82.9 Million, an increase of 2% compared with the second quarter of 2024 reflecting higher percentage rent, given the stronger year-over-year box office results and inflationary increases
Partially offset by foreign exchange rate, favorability.
As a percentage of total revenue, facility lease expense declined 230 basis points to 8.8%.
Melissa Thomas: Utilities and other expense was $124.7 million, up 19% year-over-year, primarily driven by higher attendance, which impacted our variable and semi-variable costs, elevated repairs and maintenance expense to address deferred maintenance needs across the circuit, and higher fixed costs, namely real estate taxes and property and liability insurance. As a percentage of total revenue, utilities and other decreased 100 basis points to 13.3%. G&A was $54.1 million and was down 3% year-over-year, largely attributed to lower share-based compensation and related payroll taxes and favorable exchange rate movements. These benefits were partially offset by wage and benefits inflation, targeted investments in headcount, and higher professional fees. As a percentage of total revenue, G&A declined by 180 basis points to 5.8%.
Melissa Thomas: Utilities and other expense was $124.7 million, up 19% year-over-year, primarily driven by higher attendance, which impacted our variable and semi-variable costs, elevated repairs and maintenance expense to address deferred maintenance needs across the circuit, and higher fixed costs, namely real estate taxes and property and liability insurance. As a percentage of total revenue, utilities and other decreased 100 basis points to 13.3%. G&A was $54.1 million and was down 3% year-over-year, largely attributed to lower share-based compensation and related payroll taxes and favorable exchange rate movements. These benefits were partially offset by wage and benefits inflation, targeted investments in headcount, and higher professional fees. As a percentage of total revenue, G&A declined by 180 basis points to 5.8%.
Utilities and other expense was 124.7 Million up. 19% year-over-year primarily driven by higher attendance which impacted our variable and semi variable costs.
Elevated repairs and maintenance expense to address. Deferred maintenance needs across the circuit.
And higher fixed costs. Namely real estate taxes and property and liability insurance.
as a percentage of total revenue, utilities and other decreased 100 basis points to 13.3%,
DNA was $54.1 million and was down 3% year-over-year, largely attributed to lower share-based compensation, related payroll taxes, and favorable exchange rate movements.
These benefits for partially offset by wage and benefits inflation. Targeted investments in headcount and higher professional fees.
As a percentage of total revenue GNA declined by 180 basis points to 5.8%.
Melissa Thomas: Globally, we delivered $93.5 million of net income attributable to Cinemark Holdings, Inc., resulting in diluted earnings per share of $0.63. Shifting to the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $932 million of cash as we prepare to address our convertible notes later this month. We generated $246 million of Free Cash Flow in the quarter, reflecting the stronger Adjusted EBITDA performance as well as seasonal working capital tailwinds. This result underscores the strong free cash flow generating capabilities of our business model when supported by a more favorable content cycle. Turning to capital allocation, our strategy remains focused on three key pillars. One, strengthening our balance sheet. Two, investing to position Cinemark for long-term success. Three, returning excess capital to shareholders. Starting with the first pillar, strengthening our balance sheet.
Melissa Thomas: Globally, we delivered $93.5 million of net income attributable to Cinemark Holdings, Inc., resulting in diluted earnings per share of $0.63. Shifting to the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $932 million of cash as we prepare to address our convertible notes later this month. We generated $246 million of Free Cash Flow in the quarter, reflecting the stronger Adjusted EBITDA performance as well as seasonal working capital tailwinds. This result underscores the strong free cash flow generating capabilities of our business model when supported by a more favorable content cycle. Turning to capital allocation, our strategy remains focused on three key pillars. One, strengthening our balance sheet. Two, investing to position Cinemark for long-term success. Three, returning excess capital to shareholders. Starting with the first pillar, strengthening our balance sheet.
Globally. We delivered 93.5 million of net income attributable, to sinior Holdings Inc, resulting in diluted earnings per share of 63 cents.
Shifting to the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with 90032 million of cash, as we prepare to address our convertible notes later. This month.
We generated 246 million of free cash flow in the quarter, reflecting the stronger, adjusted Deepa performance, as well as seasonal working capital Tailwind.
This result underscores the strong free cash flow generating capabilities of our business model when supported by a more favorable content cycle.
Turning to Capital allocation, our strategy remains focused on 3 key pillars.
1, strengthening our balance sheet.
2 investing to position, C Mark for long-term success and 3, return excess Capital to shareholders.
Melissa Thomas: Given the strength of our financial position, we provided notice to the convertible note holders of our election to settle the $460 million principal amount in cash upon their August 15 maturity. Bear in mind that the maturity date for the warrants extends beyond that of the convertible notes and hedges. As a reminder, in Q1, we took steps to proactively mitigate potential dilution from the settlements of the warrants with the repurchase of 7.93 million shares. Actively managing dilution remains a key priority as we seek to deliver long-term value for our shareholders. We also took proactive steps in the quarter to reduce our interest expense. We successfully repriced our term loan, resulting in a 50 basis point reduction in our interest rate and more than $3 million in annual savings.
Melissa Thomas: Given the strength of our financial position, we provided notice to the convertible note holders of our election to settle the $460 million principal amount in cash upon their August 15 maturity. Bear in mind that the maturity date for the warrants extends beyond that of the convertible notes and hedges. As a reminder, in Q1, we took steps to proactively mitigate potential dilution from the settlements of the warrants with the repurchase of 7.93 million shares. Actively managing dilution remains a key priority as we seek to deliver long-term value for our shareholders. We also took proactive steps in the quarter to reduce our interest expense. We successfully repriced our term loan, resulting in a 50 basis point reduction in our interest rate and more than $3 million in annual savings.
Starting with the first pillar strengthening our balance sheet, given the strength of our financial position, we provided notice to the convertible note holders of our election to settle the $460 million principal amount in cash upon their August 15th maturity.
Bear in mind that the maturity date for the warrants extends beyond that of the convertible notes and hedges.
as a reminder, in the first quarter, we took steps to proactively mitigate potential dilution from the settlements of the warrants with the repurchase of 7.93 million shares
Actively managing dilution remains a key priority as we seek to deliver long-term value for our shareholders.
We also took proactive steps in the quarter to reduce our interest expense.
Melissa Thomas: When combined with the upcoming repayment of our convertible notes, we expect a $24 million reduction in our annual cash interest expense. To wrap up our first capital allocation pillar, we ended the quarter with a net leverage ratio of 2.2x, which is within our target range of 2x to 3x. Our balance sheet continues to set us apart, providing us the financial flexibility to strategically invest in long-term growth while maintaining the ongoing strength and resilience of our circuit. This brings me to our second pillar, pursuing strategic and accretive investments to grow and secure our long-term success. We deployed $52.2 million of capital during the first half of the year to maintain and enhance our high-quality circuit. For the full year, we continue to expect capital expenditures of approximately $225 million.
Melissa Thomas: When combined with the upcoming repayment of our convertible notes, we expect a $24 million reduction in our annual cash interest expense. To wrap up our first capital allocation pillar, we ended the quarter with a net leverage ratio of 2.2x, which is within our target range of 2x to 3x. Our balance sheet continues to set us apart, providing us the financial flexibility to strategically invest in long-term growth while maintaining the ongoing strength and resilience of our circuit. This brings me to our second pillar, pursuing strategic and accretive investments to grow and secure our long-term success. We deployed $52.2 million of capital during the first half of the year to maintain and enhance our high-quality circuit. For the full year, we continue to expect capital expenditures of approximately $225 million.
We successfully repriced our term loans resulting, in a 50 basis, point reduction, in our interest rates, and More Than 3 million in annual savings.
When combined with the upcoming repayment of our convertible notes, we expect a 24 million reduction in our annual cash interest expense.
Our first capital, allocation pillar, we ended the quarter with a net leverage ratio of 2.2 times, which is within our target range of 2 to 3 times.
Our balance sheet continues to set us apart, providing us the financial flexibility to strategically. Invest in long-term growth, while maintaining the ongoing strength and resilience of our circuit.
This brings me to our second pillar.
Pursuing strategic and accretive Investments to grow and secure, our long-term success.
we deployed 502.2 million of capital, during the first half of the year to maintain and enhance our high-quality circuit
For the full year, we continue to expect Capital expenditures of approximately 225 million.
Melissa Thomas: Now to our third capital allocation pillar, returning excess capital to shareholders. In June, we paid our second quarterly dividend since the pandemic. Over time, our goal continues to be to return a greater share of our Free Cash Flow to shareholders, provided our net leverage ratio remains within our target range. Overall, we remain committed to taking a balanced and disciplined approach to capital allocation, ensuring we retain the flexibility to pursue attractive, financially accretive opportunities as they arise while proactively managing risks. In closing, we are pleased with the strong financial and operational performance we achieved in the quarter. Our solid financial condition, disciplined capital allocation, and focused execution positions us to capitalize on opportunities ahead and deliver long-term value to our shareholders. Operator, that concludes our prepared remarks, and we would now like to open up the line for questions.
Melissa Thomas: Now to our third capital allocation pillar, returning excess capital to shareholders. In June, we paid our second quarterly dividend since the pandemic. Over time, our goal continues to be to return a greater share of our Free Cash Flow to shareholders, provided our net leverage ratio remains within our target range. Overall, we remain committed to taking a balanced and disciplined approach to capital allocation, ensuring we retain the flexibility to pursue attractive, financially accretive opportunities as they arise while proactively managing risks. In closing, we are pleased with the strong financial and operational performance we achieved in the quarter. Our solid financial condition, disciplined capital allocation, and focused execution positions us to capitalize on opportunities ahead and deliver long-term value to our shareholders. Operator, that concludes our prepared remarks, and we would now like to open up the line for questions.
And now to our third capital allocation pillar, returning excess capital to shareholders. In June, we paid our second quarterly dividend since the pandemic.
and over time, our goal continues to be to return a greater share of our free cash flow to shareholders. Provided our net leverage ratio remains within our target range.
Overall, we remain committed to taking a balanced and disciplined approach to Capital allocation.
Ensuring we retain the flexibility to pursue attractive financially, accretive opportunities as they arise while proactively managing risk.
In closing, we are pleased with the strong financial and operational performance we achieved in the quarter.
Our solid financial condition, disciplined capital allocation, and focused execution position us to capitalize on opportunities ahead and deliver long-term value to our shareholders.
Operator: That concludes our prepared remarks, and we would now like to open up the line for questions.
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Sean Gamble: Our first questions come from the line of Ben Swinburne with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your questions.
Operator: Our first questions come from the line of Ben Swinburne with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your questions.
Our first questions come from the line of Ben swinburne with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your questions.
Ben Swinburne: Thanks. Good morning. Thanks for all the commentary on the convert. I wanna ask you about the convert and kind of capital allocation, Sean and Melissa. It sounds like you're still planning to address the premium with shares, so I wanna see if there's any thought about maybe using cash. Assuming you're sticking with the stock approach, is there any, you know, potential to accelerate that, you know, kind of 1/80th per day settlement through 12 March? I guess I'm asking because I'm wondering in terms of your goal of increasing return of capital, which you guys laid out in your deck, do you need to wait for that warrant premium to completely close out to revisit the dividend, raise the buyback, that kind of thing, or maybe not?
Ben Swinburne: Thanks. Good morning. Thanks for all the commentary on the convert. I wanna ask you about the convert and kind of capital allocation, Sean and Melissa. It sounds like you're still planning to address the premium with shares, so I wanna see if there's any thought about maybe using cash. Assuming you're sticking with the stock approach, is there any, you know, potential to accelerate that, you know, kind of 1/80th per day settlement through 12 March? I guess I'm asking because I'm wondering in terms of your goal of increasing return of capital, which you guys laid out in your deck, do you need to wait for that warrant premium to completely close out to revisit the dividend, raise the buyback, that kind of thing, or maybe not?
Thanks. Good morning. Um, and thanks for all the commentary on, uh, on the convert. I want to talk. I want to ask you about...
The convert and kind of capital allocation.
Sean and Melissa. So, um,
It sounds like you're still planning to address the premium with shares. So I want to see if there's any thought about maybe using cash. But assuming you're sticking with the stock approach.
Is there any you know potential to accelerate that you know kind of 180th per day settlement through March 12th? And I guess I'm asking because I'm wondering
Ben Swinburne: That's kinda my first question. I just wanted to circle up on the Big Beautiful Bill impact for Cinemark.
Ben Swinburne: That's kinda my first question. I just wanted to circle up on the Big Beautiful Bill impact for Cinemark.
Melissa Thomas: All right. Thanks for the questions, Ben. Starting with the warrants. Our current intent is to settle the warrants in shares. Now, we don't have to make that election until shortly before settlement. Ultimately, our decision will be contingent upon the extent to which the stock price exceeds $22, our cash and liquidity, and potential dilution considerations among other factors. Just in terms of how we settle that. As you think about, you know, you had the question on acceleration, we do continue to evaluate opportunities to mitigate potential exposure on the warrants. The decision as to whether or not we unwind the warrants early or let them expire over that contractual settlement period is a function of the cost to unwind early, our stock price at that time, as well as future stock price expectations among other factors.
Melissa Thomas: All right. Thanks for the questions, Ben. Starting with the warrants. Our current intent is to settle the warrants in shares. Now, we don't have to make that election until shortly before settlement. Ultimately, our decision will be contingent upon the extent to which the stock price exceeds $22, our cash and liquidity, and potential dilution considerations among other factors. Just in terms of how we settle that. As you think about, you know, you had the question on acceleration, we do continue to evaluate opportunities to mitigate potential exposure on the warrants. The decision as to whether or not we unwind the warrants early or let them expire over that contractual settlement period is a function of the cost to unwind early, our stock price at that time, as well as future stock price expectations among other factors.
Uh in terms of your goal of increasing return of capital, which you you guys laid out in your in your deck. Um, do you need to wait for that warrant premium to completely close out to revisit the dividend. Raise the buyback that kind of thing or or or or maybe not. So that that's kind of my first question then. I just wanted to Circle up on the uh, on the big beautiful Bill impact for certain work.
All right, thanks for the questions. Let's begin with Warren.
So our current intent is to settle the warrants and shares. Now, we don't have to make that election until shortly before settlement and ultimately our decision will be contingent upon the extent to which the stock price exceeds $22, our cash and liquidity and potential dilution considerations among other factors. So just in terms of how we settle that, um, as you you think about, you know, you had the question on acceleration.
Melissa Thomas: As far as your question goes, in terms of will, you know, that hinder returning additional capital to shareholders, you know, in the near term, certainly addressing the maturity of the convertible notes later this month, as well as the warrants, is a key consideration for us from a capital allocation standpoint. The potential for additional capital returns to shareholders prior to settlement of the warrants, that'll depend upon a range of factors, including where our cash position's at, overall liquidity, as well as our net leverage ratio, among other factors. The board and us as a management team, we continue to assess our capital allocation strategy and the framework, and that includes size of the dividend, as well as potential for share buybacks as we look to deliver long-term value for shareholders.
Melissa Thomas: As far as your question goes, in terms of will, you know, that hinder returning additional capital to shareholders, you know, in the near term, certainly addressing the maturity of the convertible notes later this month, as well as the warrants, is a key consideration for us from a capital allocation standpoint. The potential for additional capital returns to shareholders prior to settlement of the warrants, that'll depend upon a range of factors, including where our cash position's at, overall liquidity, as well as our net leverage ratio, among other factors. The board and us as a management team, we continue to assess our capital allocation strategy and the framework, and that includes size of the dividend, as well as potential for share buybacks as we look to deliver long-term value for shareholders.
We do continue to evaluate opportunities to mitigate potential exposure on the warrants the decision. As to whether or not we unwind the warrants early or let them expire over that contractual settlement period is a function of the cost to unwind early, our stock price at that time, as well as future stock price expectations, among other factors. And then as far as your question goes,
In terms of will, you know that hinder returning additional uh Capital to shareholders you know in the near term certainly addressing the maturity of the the convertible notes later this month as well as the warrants, is a key consideration for us from a capital, allocation standpoint.
Of the warrants. That'll depend upon a range of factors including where our cash positions at overall liquidity as well as our net leverage ratio among other factors. But the board and us as a management team, we continue to assess our Capital, allocation strategy, and the framework, and that includes size of the dividend as well as potential for share BuyBacks as we look to deliver long-term value for shareholders.
Ben Swinburne: Got it. I just wondered… Oh, sorry, Sean, go ahead. Anyway.
Ben Swinburne: Got it. I just wondered… Oh, sorry, Sean, go ahead. Anyway.
Sean Gamble: Oh, no, I didn't, I didn't say anything.
Sean Gamble: Oh, no, I didn't, I didn't say anything.
Got it and then I just wondered. Oh sorry, Sean go ahead.
Ben Swinburne: Oh, hey. Okay. Yeah, I guess Melissa, can you quantify cash flow benefits at Cinemark from the 100% bonus depreciation and the shifts into the leverage, interest coverage limitations? I don't know if you guys have figured that out yet.
Ben Swinburne: Oh, hey. Okay. Yeah, I guess Melissa, can you quantify cash flow benefits at Cinemark from the 100% bonus depreciation and the shifts into the leverage, interest coverage limitations? I don't know if you guys have figured that out yet.
Oh no, I didn't. I didn't say anything.
Oh, hi. Okay. Um, and then, yeah, I guess is Melissa. Can you quantify, uh, cash flow benefits at cinemar from uh, the 100% bonus depreciation and the
Melissa Thomas: It's still premature to provide a quantification there. We're still analyzing the full impact. We do expect our cash taxes to meaningfully benefit from the new legislation, particularly as it relates to the 100% bonus depreciation and the loosening of the interest expense limitation. From a capital expenditure standpoint, many of our capital expenditures do qualify for that accelerated depreciation on the bonus side. I think just the one thing I would call out there, Ben, as you guys are looking at modeling is just we do for 2025, we had 40% bonus depreciation such that the benefit isn't all incremental, but we do expect it to be significant. On the loosening of the business interest expense limitation, essentially the denominator or the measure that before essentially our interest expense limitation was determined based on EBIT.
Shifts into the leverage. Um, interest coverage limitations. I don't know if you guys have figured that out yet.
Melissa Thomas: It's still premature to provide a quantification there. We're still analyzing the full impact. We do expect our cash taxes to meaningfully benefit from the new legislation, particularly as it relates to the 100% bonus depreciation and the loosening of the interest expense limitation. From a capital expenditure standpoint, many of our capital expenditures do qualify for that accelerated depreciation on the bonus side. I think just the one thing I would call out there, Ben, as you guys are looking at modeling is just we do for 2025, we had 40% bonus depreciation such that the benefit isn't all incremental, but we do expect it to be significant. On the loosening of the business interest expense limitation, essentially the denominator or the measure that before essentially our interest expense limitation was determined based on EBIT.
So it it's still premature to provide a quantification there. We're still analyzing the full impact, but we do expect our cash taxes to meaningfully benefit from the new legislation, particularly as it relates to the 100% bonus depreciation and the loosening of the interest expense limitation, uh, from a capital expenditure standpoint, many of our Capital expenditures do qualify for that accelerated appreciation. On the bonus side, I think, just the 1 thing, I would call out there. Been as you guys are looking at modeling is just we
Do for 2025. We had 40% bonus depreciation such that the benefit isn't all incremental but we do expected to be significant and then on the loosening of the business interest expense limitation, essentially the, um, the denominator, or the
Melissa Thomas: Now that'll be determined based on EBITDA. Since EBITDA is a bigger number, we'll be able to take a greater deduction for interest expense. The combination of those, like I said, still not at a position where we'll quantify it. We think it's a bit premature to do so, but we do expect meaningful benefits to come from the new legislation.
Melissa Thomas: Now that'll be determined based on EBITDA. Since EBITDA is a bigger number, we'll be able to take a greater deduction for interest expense. The combination of those, like I said, still not at a position where we'll quantify it. We think it's a bit premature to do so, but we do expect meaningful benefits to come from the new legislation.
Measure that. Um, before, essentially, our interest expense limitation was determined based on EBIT. Now, that will be determined based on EBITDA, and since EBITDA is a bigger number, we'll be able to take a greater deduction for interest expense. So the combination of those, like I said, we're still not in a position where we'll quantify it. We think it's a bit premature to do so, but we do expect meaningful benefits to come from the new legislation.
Ben Swinburne: Great. Well, now we've covered all the boring stuff, so thank you so much.
Ben Swinburne: Great. Well, now we've covered all the boring stuff, so thank you so much.
Sean Gamble: Thanks, Ben.
Sean Gamble: Thanks, Ben.
Great. Well now we've covered all the boring stuff. So thank you so much. Thanks Ben.
Ben Swinburne: Thank you. Our next question has come from the line of David Karnovsky with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your questions.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question has come from the line of David Karnovsky with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your questions.
Thank you. Our next question is come from the line of David karnowski with the JP Morgan please proceed with your questions.
David Karnovsky: Great. Thank you. Sean, I wanted to see if you could just expand a bit on your PLF strategy. For instance, what kind of drives your decision to roll out more D-BOX and ScreenX as opposed to XDs? We wanted to just get your view on some, you know, reports that surfaced a couple weeks ago that you and others were, you know, looking at co-branding some of your own PLF formats. If you can't comment on that directly, maybe you could just speak more generally to what you can do with the XD brand in terms of, you know, maybe driving more share or pricing or even integrating it with studio marketing.
David Karnovsky: Great. Thank you. Sean, I wanted to see if you could just expand a bit on your PLF strategy. For instance, what kind of drives your decision to roll out more D-BOX and ScreenX as opposed to XDs? We wanted to just get your view on some, you know, reports that surfaced a couple weeks ago that you and others were, you know, looking at co-branding some of your own PLF formats. If you can't comment on that directly, maybe you could just speak more generally to what you can do with the XD brand in terms of, you know, maybe driving more share or pricing or even integrating it with studio marketing.
Thank you. Um, Sean want to see if you could just expand a bit on your plf strategy, for instance, what kind of drives your decision to roll out more debts and Screen X as opposed to XDS. And then we wanted to just get your view on some, you know, reports that surfaced a couple weeks ago that you and others were, you know, looking at co-branding, some of your own uh, PLS formats. And if you can't comment on that directly, maybe you could just speak more generally to what
What you can do with the XD brand in terms of, um, you may be driving more share or pricing, or even integrating it with Studio marketing.
Sean Gamble: Sure. Well, first let me start just by emphasizing, you know, at Cinemark, you know, while we hold our IMAXs and our XDs and all our other enhanced screens in very high regard, as mentioned during the prepared remarks, you know, our focus is on making sure that the entirety of coming to our theaters feels like a premium moviegoing experience, you know, regardless of which auditorium our guests ultimately choose. This again applies to our service levels, our reclined seats, our cleanliness, our maintenance, our food and beverage offerings, et cetera. You know, in our experience, these types of broad attributes and amenities that reach all audiences, and they tend to drive higher overall perception of value, which ultimately leads to increased moviegoing frequency and loyalty across all categories of films, big and small.
Sean Gamble: Sure. Well, first let me start just by emphasizing, you know, at Cinemark, you know, while we hold our IMAXs and our XDs and all our other enhanced screens in very high regard, as mentioned during the prepared remarks, you know, our focus is on making sure that the entirety of coming to our theaters feels like a premium moviegoing experience, you know, regardless of which auditorium our guests ultimately choose. This again applies to our service levels, our reclined seats, our cleanliness, our maintenance, our food and beverage offerings, et cetera. You know, in our experience, these types of broad attributes and amenities that reach all audiences, and they tend to drive higher overall perception of value, which ultimately leads to increased moviegoing frequency and loyalty across all categories of films, big and small.
Sure, um, well first, let me start, uh, just by emphasizing, you know, at at Cinema, you know, we while we hold our our iMacs is, and our XDS, and all our other enhanced screens and very high regard, um, as mentioned during the prepared remarks. You know, our focus is on making sure that the entirety of coming to our theaters feels like a premium movie going experience you know regardless of which Auditorium our guests ultimately choose um have Focus again applies to our service levels, our reclined seats our cleanliness, our maintenance, our food, and beverage offerings Etc. You know, in our experience.
Sean Gamble: Regarding PLF specifically, you know, they provide a fantastic opportunity for select moviegoers who want an added enhancement to what's already a premium experience of going to the movies. Keep in mind, you know, PLFs still only account for about 15% of domestic box office. While that figure is up somewhat from pre-pandemic levels, PLFs do benefit from being programmed with the biggest new opening releases each week at a corresponding price point, which tends to boost their performance and has made their recovery versus 2019 appear more outsized. The bulk of domestic box office, 85% of it, continues to be driven by all other cinematic auditoriums in the industry.
Sean Gamble: Regarding PLF specifically, you know, they provide a fantastic opportunity for select moviegoers who want an added enhancement to what's already a premium experience of going to the movies. Keep in mind, you know, PLFs still only account for about 15% of domestic box office. While that figure is up somewhat from pre-pandemic levels, PLFs do benefit from being programmed with the biggest new opening releases each week at a corresponding price point, which tends to boost their performance and has made their recovery versus 2019 appear more outsized. The bulk of domestic box office, 85% of it, continues to be driven by all other cinematic auditoriums in the industry.
These types of broad attributes and amenities that reach all audiences, uh, and drive high. They, they tend to drive higher overall, perception of value, which ultimately leads to increased movie going frequency and loyalty across all categories of films, big and small, um, regarding tlf specifically, you know, they provide a, a fantastic opportunity for select movie goers, who want an added enhancement to uh, what's already? A premium experience of going to the movies. Um, but keep in mind, you know, PLS still only account for about 15% of domestic box office. So while that figure is up somewhat from pre-pandemic levels, um, plfs do benefit.
Sean Gamble: While a fantastic amenity, which has been one of several sources of growth for the industry, PLFs are still a relatively small % of overall box office sales, so the right contextual balance needs to be maintained overall. I would also say just as, you know, overarchingly, there are numerous fantastic PLF experiences that are available to moviegoers across the US and around the world, including IMAX, which is a tremendous experience, clearly. When the industry conversations about PLFs have taken place, which aren't new by the way, they've largely been focused on how to most effectively market all large screen formats to grow the pie and unlock incremental upside, you know, not as a challenge to IMAX.
Sean Gamble: While a fantastic amenity, which has been one of several sources of growth for the industry, PLFs are still a relatively small % of overall box office sales, so the right contextual balance needs to be maintained overall. I would also say just as, you know, overarchingly, there are numerous fantastic PLF experiences that are available to moviegoers across the US and around the world, including IMAX, which is a tremendous experience, clearly. When the industry conversations about PLFs have taken place, which aren't new by the way, they've largely been focused on how to most effectively market all large screen formats to grow the pie and unlock incremental upside, you know, not as a challenge to IMAX.
Of overall box office sales. So the right contextual balance needs to be maintained overall.
Sean Gamble: You know, in general, increasing consumer awareness about the myriad of PLF options that are out there, as well as all the other heightened amenities that are available to movie fans, that's a positive for the entire industry, exhibition, studios, creative community, and moviegoers. You know, the relative difference of kind of how we're looking at one thing versus another, I mean, obviously back to there has been a nice uptick in select consumers seeking these types of amenities. We're looking at opportunities across all those categories. You know, you mentioned a range of them. Like I'd say they're all on the table in terms of where we might lean and look for incremental growth opportunities.
Sean Gamble: You know, in general, increasing consumer awareness about the myriad of PLF options that are out there, as well as all the other heightened amenities that are available to movie fans, that's a positive for the entire industry, exhibition, studios, creative community, and moviegoers. You know, the relative difference of kind of how we're looking at one thing versus another, I mean, obviously back to there has been a nice uptick in select consumers seeking these types of amenities. We're looking at opportunities across all those categories. You know, you mentioned a range of them. Like I'd say they're all on the table in terms of where we might lean and look for incremental growth opportunities.
And I would also say, just, you know, overarching, there are numerous fantastic plf experiences, uh, that are available to movie goers across the US, and around the world, uh, including IMAX, which is a tremendous experience. Clearly. Um, when the industry conversations about PLS have taken place, um, which aren't new by the way, uh, they've largely been focused on how to most effectively Market all large screen formats to grow the pie and unlock incremental upside, you know, not as a challenge to IMAX you know, in general.
Sean Gamble: It really boils down to the particular theater, the size of the screen, the market, kind of what's in the market, the demographics, all those types of things in terms of what's the optimal path to choose one versus another.
Sean Gamble: It really boils down to the particular theater, the size of the screen, the market, kind of what's in the market, the demographics, all those types of things in terms of what's the optimal path to choose one versus another.
Increasing consumer awareness about the, the Myriad of plf options that are out there as well as all the other heightened amenities that are available to movie fans. That's a positive for the entire industry, exhibition Studios creative community and movie. Goers? So, um, you know, the relative difference of kind of how we're looking at 1 Thing versus another. I mean, obviously back to we, there has been a, um, a nice uptick in select consumers seeking these types of amenities. So, um, we're looking at opportunities to cross all those categories. Um you know you you mentioned a few a range of them like I'd say they're all on the table in terms of um where we might lean and look for incremental growth opportunities. It really boils down to the particular theater, the size of the screen um the market kind of what's in the market. The demographics, all those types of things in terms of what's the optimal path to choose 1 versus another.
David Karnovsky: Okay, thanks. Just for Melissa, just given the down G&A in the quarter, wanted to see how to think about the growth on that line item for the balance of the year? We recognize obviously there's a variable component around box and your stock price. Just any view you can give on concession costs from here and just managing inflation around certain items? Thanks.
David Karnovsky: Okay, thanks. Just for Melissa, just given the down G&A in the quarter, wanted to see how to think about the growth on that line item for the balance of the year? We recognize obviously there's a variable component around box and your stock price. Just any view you can give on concession costs from here and just managing inflation around certain items? Thanks.
Melissa Thomas: From a general administrative expense standpoint, we did have lower stock-based compensation in the quarter that and associated payroll taxes that did result in lower GNA. Kind of outside of that, we do continue to make targeted investments in headcounts and capabilities to further advance our strategic initiatives. We do have some merit increases and rising costs of benefits. You know, as you think forward from a GNA perspective, I would just keep in mind that ex stock-based comp, we still do expect to see wages and benefits increased as a result of the factors I mentioned. Always, you know, timing of professional fees and then incentive compensation. Timing and amount of incentive compensation can impact our GNA from quarter to quarter.
Okay. Thanks and then uh just for Melissa. Uh just giving the down GNA in the quarter. Um want to see how to think about the growth on that line item for the balance of the year. We recognize. Oh, so there's a variable component around box and your stock price and then just any view you can give on uh concession costs uh from here and and just managing inflation around certain items, thanks.
Melissa Thomas: From a general administrative expense standpoint, we did have lower stock-based compensation in the quarter that and associated payroll taxes that did result in lower GNA. Kind of outside of that, we do continue to make targeted investments in headcounts and capabilities to further advance our strategic initiatives. We do have some merit increases and rising costs of benefits. You know, as you think forward from a GNA perspective, I would just keep in mind that ex stock-based comp, we still do expect to see wages and benefits increased as a result of the factors I mentioned. Always, you know, timing of professional fees and then incentive compensation. Timing and amount of incentive compensation can impact our GNA from quarter to quarter.
Yeah, so from uh General administrative expense standpoint. So we did have um, lower stock based compensation in the quarter that um and Associated. Payroll taxes that did result in lower GNA kind of outside of that we do continue to make targeted Investments and headcounts and capabilities to further Advance our strategic initiative and we do have some Merit increases and Rising costs of benefits. So I you know, as you think forward for from a GNA perspective, I would just keep in mind that x stock based comp we'd still do expect to see wages and benefits increased. Um as a result of the factors I mentioned,
Melissa Thomas: We continue to remain disciplined, but I would say, the year-over-year comp was impacted by stock-based compensation, pretty meaningfully this quarter.
Melissa Thomas: We continue to remain disciplined, but I would say, the year-over-year comp was impacted by stock-based compensation, pretty meaningfully this quarter.
And then always, you know, timing of professional fees and then incentive compensation. Those can timing and amount of incentives compensation can, um, impact our GNA from quarter to quarter, but we continue to remain disciplined, but I would say the year-over-year comp was impacted by stock-based compensation. Pretty meaningfully the score.
David Karnovsky: Okay. Anything on concessions? Yeah.
David Karnovsky: Okay. Anything on concessions? Yeah.
Melissa Thomas: Yes. On our concession rate, we continue to expect our COGS rate for the full year to be higher year-on-year, given ongoing inflationary pressures as well as a shift in product mix. That's mainly driven by higher sales of merchandise, and you saw that happen in the first half of the year. We do continue to pursue strategies to mitigate inflationary and tariff impacts that may arise, and we'll continue to look to do that. With respect to product mix, you know, that is an area that we think could continue to drive, especially as we look at the film slate for the second half of the year, particularly in Q4, does lend itself to merch. It's really gonna depend on that mix of merchandise and what transpires there.
Melissa Thomas: Yes. On our concession rate, we continue to expect our COGS rate for the full year to be higher year-on-year, given ongoing inflationary pressures as well as a shift in product mix. That's mainly driven by higher sales of merchandise, and you saw that happen in the first half of the year. We do continue to pursue strategies to mitigate inflationary and tariff impacts that may arise, and we'll continue to look to do that. With respect to product mix, you know, that is an area that we think could continue to drive, especially as we look at the film slate for the second half of the year, particularly in Q4, does lend itself to merch. It's really gonna depend on that mix of merchandise and what transpires there.
Melissa Thomas: We'll continue to look to offset wherever we can. I think the other thing I would just call out is the tough comp in the Q3. Just keep that in mind. We had a challenging comparison year-over-year, given the timing of rebates in Q3 of last year. You'll wanna look at that when you're modeling.
Melissa Thomas: We'll continue to look to offset wherever we can. I think the other thing I would just call out is the tough comp in the Q3. Just keep that in mind. We had a challenging comparison year-over-year, given the timing of rebates in Q3 of last year. You'll wanna look at that when you're modeling.
Um, and then I think your other thing on concession. Yeah, yeah. So on our concession rate so we continue to expect our cogs rate for the full year to be higher year-on-year, uh, given ongoing inflationary pressures as well as the shift in product mix and that's mainly driven by um, higher sales of merchandise and you saw that happen. Um, in the first half of the year. Now we do continue to pursue strategies to mitigate inflationary and tariff impacts that may arise and we'll continue to look to do that. And then with respect to product mix, um, you know, that is an area that we think could continue, uh, to drive, especially as we look at the film slate for the second half of the Year, particularly in uh, you know, Q4, does lend itself to merch so it's really going to depend on that mix of of merchandise and what uh what transpires there. But we'll continue to look to offset.
wherever, uh, we can, I think the other thing I would just call out is
The tough comp in the third quarter so just keep that in mind. We had a challenging comparison year-over-year given the timing of rebates um in Q3 of last year. So you'll want to look at that when you're doing your modeling.
David Karnovsky: Thank you.
David Karnovsky: Thank you.
Sean Gamble: Thanks, David.
Sean Gamble: Thanks, David.
Thank you.
Thanks David.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question has come from the line of Eric Handler with Roth MKM. Please proceed with your questions.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question has come from the line of Eric Handler with Roth MKM. Please proceed with your questions.
Thank you. Our next question, has come from the line of Eric Handler with Roth. Mkm please proceed with your question.
Eric Handler: Good morning. Thanks for the question. Sean, wonder if you had a view on whether or not you will be looking at doing Discount Wednesdays?
Eric Handler: Good morning. Thanks for the question. Sean, wonder if you had a view on whether or not you will be looking at doing Discount Wednesdays?
Good morning. Thanks for the question. Um, Sean wonder if, uh, you had a view on whether or not you will be um, looking at doing discount Wednesdays.
Sean Gamble: Well, I mean, just to comment specifically on that, I think it's, you know, it's an interesting concept and angle. We're curious to see how it ultimately affects attendance patterns and if it's able to ultimately stimulate more moviegoing without compromising box office, you know. Also curious to see how it performs and how the, you know, studios ultimately embrace it or not. I think it's, you know, it's an interesting concept, and we're gonna watch it closely, and we'll make our decisions based on what we see.
Sean Gamble: Well, I mean, just to comment specifically on that, I think it's, you know, it's an interesting concept and angle. We're curious to see how it ultimately affects attendance patterns and if it's able to ultimately stimulate more moviegoing without compromising box office, you know. Also curious to see how it performs and how the, you know, studios ultimately embrace it or not. I think it's, you know, it's an interesting concept, and we're gonna watch it closely, and we'll make our decisions based on what we see.
Uh, sure. Well I I mean just
Sean Gamble: I will point out, you know, we've had a very successful Discount Tuesdays program at Cinemark for many years, as well as varied pricing throughout the day, week, and time of year that's aligned with consumer demand to optimize attendance, box office, and revenue. We've got a highly sophisticated, fully dedicated pricing team that uses all kinds of varied data and insights to drive our decision-making, with the ultimate goal of ensuring our guests feel like they're receiving meaningful value when they visit our theaters. Overall, our decisions are really based on elasticity of demand and consumer value perception as we approach prices.
Sean Gamble: I will point out, you know, we've had a very successful Discount Tuesdays program at Cinemark for many years, as well as varied pricing throughout the day, week, and time of year that's aligned with consumer demand to optimize attendance, box office, and revenue. We've got a highly sophisticated, fully dedicated pricing team that uses all kinds of varied data and insights to drive our decision-making, with the ultimate goal of ensuring our guests feel like they're receiving meaningful value when they visit our theaters. Overall, our decisions are really based on elasticity of demand and consumer value perception as we approach prices.
To comment specifically on that. Um, I think it's a, you know, it's an interesting concept, uh, an angle. Um it's going to be, uh, we're curious to see how it ultimately affects attendance patterns and if it's able to uh ultimately stimulate, more movie, going without compromising box office, you know, or also curious to see how it performs and how the, you know, Studios ultimately embrace it or not. So I think it's um you know, it's an interesting concept and we're going to watch it closely and we'll make some our decisions based on what we see. Um, I will point out, you know, we've had a very successful discount Tuesday program at cinmark for many years uh as well as varied pricing throughout the day week and time of year, that's aligned with consumer demand to optimize attendance box office and and revenue. So we we've got a highly sophisticated fully dedicated pricing team that uses all kinds of very data and insights to drive our decision-making. Um, with the ultimate,
Sean Gamble: It's worked very well for us over the years, and, you know, we'll continue to evaluate that one particular concept that you mentioned, based on how it performs, and depending on that, we can always make a decision to move down that path or not.
Sean Gamble: It's worked very well for us over the years, and, you know, we'll continue to evaluate that one particular concept that you mentioned, based on how it performs, and depending on that, we can always make a decision to move down that path or not.
The goal of ensuring our guests feel like they're receiving meaningful value when they visit our theaters. So overall, our decisions are really based on, uh, elasticity of demand and consumer value perception. As we approach price, it's worked very well for us over the years and, you know, we'll, we'll continue to evaluate that 1 particular uh, concept that you mentioned. Uh,
Based on how performs and depending on that you know he's uh make a decision to move down that path or not.
Eric Handler: Great. That's helpful. Then as a follow-up, I'm curious, what percentage of your concession sales is now merchandise, and how are you thinking about maybe expanding that business, to grow or maybe broaden the product mix or, add some online capabilities?
Eric Handler: Great. That's helpful. Then as a follow-up, I'm curious, what percentage of your concession sales is now merchandise, and how are you thinking about maybe expanding that business, to grow or maybe broaden the product mix or, add some online capabilities?
Great. That's helpful. And then as a follow-up, I'm curious. What percentage of your concession sales is now merchandise. And how are you thinking about maybe expanding that business, uh, to grow maybe broaden the product mix or, um, add some online capabilities?
Sean Gamble: Sure. Well, look, it's still a relatively small overall portion of our food and beverage, but it's growing exceptionally well. I mean, year-over-year, overall merch was up close to 240%. Again, it's on a smaller base, but it's showing great signs of upside. Obviously, that it's become, you know, beyond just a nice offering. It's become part of the fun event of going to the movies and also a fantastic promotional vehicle. They've become more and more elaborate. Fans are seeking them out. Talent from the movies are getting involved in using them to promote the films. It's just become more and more part of the fun of going to the movies. We're very encouraged about...
Sean Gamble: Sure. Well, look, it's still a relatively small overall portion of our food and beverage, but it's growing exceptionally well. I mean, year-over-year, overall merch was up close to 240%. Again, it's on a smaller base, but it's showing great signs of upside. Obviously, that it's become, you know, beyond just a nice offering. It's become part of the fun event of going to the movies and also a fantastic promotional vehicle. They've become more and more elaborate. Fans are seeking them out. Talent from the movies are getting involved in using them to promote the films. It's just become more and more part of the fun of going to the movies. We're very encouraged about...
Sean Gamble: We're seeing really over the past couple of years with the growth, and we think there's still more to come.
Sean Gamble: We're seeing really over the past couple of years with the growth, and we think there's still more to come.
Sure, um, well look, it it's still a relatively small overall uh portion of our food and beverage but it's growing exceptionally. Well, um, I mean year-over-year overall. Merch was up close to 240% so again it's on a smaller base but it's it's showing great signs of of upside. Um, obviously that it's become, you know, beyond just a nice, um, offering it's become part of the fun event of going to the movies and also a fantastic promotional vehicle. So the become more and more, elaborate fans are seeking them out, um, Talent from the movies are getting involved in using them to promote the films. So it just become more and more part of the fun of going to the movies. So we're very encouraged about we're seeing uh really over the past couple of years with the growth and we think there's there's still more to come
Eric Handler: Thank you.
Eric Handler: Thank you.
Sean Gamble: Thanks, Eric.
Sean Gamble: Thanks, Eric.
Thank you.
Thanks Eric.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Chad Beynon with Macquarie Research. Please proceed with your questions.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Chad Beynon with Macquarie Research. Please proceed with your questions.
Thank you. Our next questions, come from the line of Chad, Beynon, with McQuarrie research, please proceed with your questions.
Chad Beynon: Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Great to see the strength in Q2 and the continuation in July. Sean, I was wondering if we're starting to see more, I guess, filling in around the edges, just from an overall content standpoint and how that looks for the back half of the year. Obviously, some little bit of weakness projected in August and September, kind of picks up. Yeah, just wondering how some of that filling in looks at this point.
Chad Beynon: Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Great to see the strength in Q2 and the continuation in July. Sean, I was wondering if we're starting to see more, I guess, filling in around the edges, just from an overall content standpoint and how that looks for the back half of the year. Obviously, some little bit of weakness projected in August and September, kind of picks up. Yeah, just wondering how some of that filling in looks at this point.
Sean Gamble: Well, thanks for the question. Definitely, I mean, I think coming into this year and what we've seen thus far, is a more fulsome volume of releases for the industry, and we certainly saw that in Q2. Obviously, Q1 was still dealing with some of the aftermath of the strikes. Q2, we saw how momentum picked up with a more regular cadence of compelling releases week after week after week. We saw what that did for, you know, just phenomenal results and attendance patterns throughout this quarter. Yes, you know, kind of mentioned naturally, the normal way movies get booked in the industry, August and September tends to be dethrottle a little bit.
Sean Gamble: Well, thanks for the question. Definitely, I mean, I think coming into this year and what we've seen thus far, is a more fulsome volume of releases for the industry, and we certainly saw that in Q2. Obviously, Q1 was still dealing with some of the aftermath of the strikes. Q2, we saw how momentum picked up with a more regular cadence of compelling releases week after week after week. We saw what that did for, you know, just phenomenal results and attendance patterns throughout this quarter. Yes, you know, kind of mentioned naturally, the normal way movies get booked in the industry, August and September tends to be dethrottle a little bit.
Hi, good morning. Uh, thanks for taking my question. Uh, great to see the strength in the second quarter. And um, the continuation in July, Sean, I was wondering if we're starting to see more, I guess filling in around the edges, uh, just from a, um, an overall, uh, content standpoint kind of how that looks for, uh, for the, for the back half of the Year, obviously some, um, a little bit of weakness, projected in, in August and September, but kind of picks up. But, um, yeah, just just wondering how some of that filling filling in, uh, looks at this point.
Sean Gamble: Year-end, it looks like one of the most compelling Q4s we've seen since the pandemic with the volume of movies that are coming out. You know, the last couple of years, between the pandemic and the strikes, more of the larger films got packed into the summer, and year-end wasn't as significant as it typically would be from a larger film release perspective. This year, we've got a really strong Q4 coming. We're really excited to see, you know, the lineup, how the lineup of films plays out, certainly as we get later into the second half of the year. You know, we've had a nice July to kick things off, at least for the Q3.
Sean Gamble: Year-end, it looks like one of the most compelling Q4s we've seen since the pandemic with the volume of movies that are coming out. You know, the last couple of years, between the pandemic and the strikes, more of the larger films got packed into the summer, and year-end wasn't as significant as it typically would be from a larger film release perspective. This year, we've got a really strong Q4 coming. We're really excited to see, you know, the lineup, how the lineup of films plays out, certainly as we get later into the second half of the year. You know, we've had a nice July to kick things off, at least for the Q3.
Uh, well thanks for the question. Um, definitely, I mean, I think, uh, coming into this year and what we've seen thus far, uh, is a more wholesome volume, uh, of releases for the industry. And, and we certainly saw that in the second quarter, obviously, the first quarter was still dealing with some of the aftermath of the strikes. Second quarter, we saw how momentum picked up with, uh, a more regular Cadence of compelling releases week after week after week. Uh, and we saw what that did for, you know, just phenomenal results and, and the tenants patterns throughout this quarter. Yes, you know, kind of mentioned naturally the way the normal way of movies, get booked in the industry August and September 13th to be de throttle a little bit, but
Chad Beynon: Great. Thanks. Somewhat related, just in terms of international, I know the booking periods are slightly different. It was a very family-friendly film slate up here in North America for Q2. Was that the same in international, or were some of these pushed into later periods, just in the context of that market being more flat versus all the growth that we saw up here?
Chad Beynon: Great. Thanks. Somewhat related, just in terms of international, I know the booking periods are slightly different. It was a very family-friendly film slate up here in North America for Q2. Was that the same in international, or were some of these pushed into later periods, just in the context of that market being more flat versus all the growth that we saw up here?
Sean Gamble: Well, we were, you know, very pleased with the results of Latin America for Q2, and it is a little nuanced, you know, as you kind of point out. I would say the profile and release timing of the films was similar, but there were a few differences when you look at just how the totality of the slate performed in the US relative to LATAM. Keep in mind, LATAM had a bit of a tougher comp year-over-year because it was going up against Inside Out 2, which was huge in the US, but in Latin America, it was the biggest movie of all time. That was just a huge comparison. It'd be flat year-over-year with that comparison in there. We look as a real positive. A couple other things.
Great, thanks. And then, um, somewhat related, just in terms of international, I know the, um, the booking periods are slightly different. So it was a very family-friendly, uh, film slate up here in North America, for Q2. Uh, was that the same in international or were some of these pushed, uh, into later periods? Uh, just in the context of, of that market being more flat versus all, the growth that we saw up here,
Sean Gamble: Well, we were, you know, very pleased with the results of Latin America for Q2, and it is a little nuanced, you know, as you kind of point out. I would say the profile and release timing of the films was similar, but there were a few differences when you look at just how the totality of the slate performed in the US relative to LATAM. Keep in mind, LATAM had a bit of a tougher comp year-over-year because it was going up against Inside Out 2, which was huge in the US, but in Latin America, it was the biggest movie of all time. That was just a huge comparison. It'd be flat year-over-year with that comparison in there. We look as a real positive. A couple other things.
Sean Gamble: You know, Minecraft did exceptionally well in Latin America. However, in the US, it was that much higher of a cultural phenomenon. When you look at, Lilo & Stitch Also did well in both markets compared to Minecraft. In the US, the difference between the two were about 6% in box office. In LATAM, Lilo & Stitch nearly doubled the attendance of Minecraft. Similarly, films like Sinners, which was the third-largest movie in the quarter for the US, didn't really, you know, connect that broadly in LATAM. It wasn't even in the top 10.
Sean Gamble: You know, Minecraft did exceptionally well in Latin America. However, in the US, it was that much higher of a cultural phenomenon. When you look at, Lilo & Stitch Also did well in both markets compared to Minecraft. In the US, the difference between the two were about 6% in box office. In LATAM, Lilo & Stitch nearly doubled the attendance of Minecraft. Similarly, films like Sinners, which was the third-largest movie in the quarter for the US, didn't really, you know, connect that broadly in LATAM. It wasn't even in the top 10.
Sure. Um well we were you know very pleased with the results of Latin America for the second quarter and it is a little nuanced as you kind of point out. I would say the profile uh and release timing of the films with similar. But there were a few differences and you look at just how the totality of the Slate performed in the US relative to latam. Um, keep in mind, uh, latam had a bit of a tougher comp year-over-year because it was going up against Inside Out 2, which was huge in the US, but in Latin America. It was the biggest movie of all time. So, uh, that was just a huge, um, comparison. So it would be flat year-over-year with that comparison in there. Um, we look as a real positive, um, couple other things. You know, Minecraft did exceptionally well in Latin America. Uh, however, in the US, it was that much higher of a cultural phenomenon when you look at, um, Lilo and Stitch, which also did well in both markets, compared to compared, to Minecraft, uh, in the US. Um, the difference
Sean Gamble: Other films like The Accountant 2, Karate Kid, and Mission: Impossible, these are films that, you know, tend to work better in the US and have a little bit more of a nostalgia factor in the US, whereas they don't, you know, they don't over-index as much in that market. Those factors really are the things that drove some of the differences between the level of performance in the US on a year-over-year basis compared to LATAM. Overall performance, we are still thrilled with the results of LATAM, basically with flat attendance year-over-year, margins in excess of 24%. You know, the whole region continues to perform. The recovery pace relative to the US continues to outpace things in LATAM, you know, on a comparative basis, which is really good.
Sean Gamble: Other films like The Accountant 2, Karate Kid, and Mission: Impossible, these are films that, you know, tend to work better in the US and have a little bit more of a nostalgia factor in the US, whereas they don't, you know, they don't over-index as much in that market. Those factors really are the things that drove some of the differences between the level of performance in the US on a year-over-year basis compared to LATAM. Overall performance, we are still thrilled with the results of LATAM, basically with flat attendance year-over-year, margins in excess of 24%. You know, the whole region continues to perform. The recovery pace relative to the US continues to outpace things in LATAM, you know, on a comparative basis, which is really good.
Between the 2 are about 6% in box office in latam Lilo and Stitch nearly doubled the attendance of Minecraft. Um similarly films like Sinners, which was the third largest movie uh in the quarter for the US didn't really you know, connect that broadly in latam it wasn't even in the top 10. Um and other films like the accountant, 2 and Karate Kid and Mission Impossible. These are films that, you know, tend to work better in the US and have a little bit more of an Nostalgia factor in the US. Whereas they don't, you know, they don't over index as much in that market. So those factors really are the things that drove some of the differences between the level of performance in the US for on a year-over-year basis compared to to that end. But overall performance and we were still thrilled with the results of latam
basically, with flat attendance year-over-year margins in excess of 24%, you know, the whole region continues to perform the the recovery Pace, relative to the US, continues to outpace things in latam, you know, uh, in a, on a comparative basis, which is really good.
Operator: Thanks for all the details. Appreciate it.
Chad Beynon: Thanks for all the details. Appreciate it.
Sean Gamble: Thank you. Appreciate the questions.
Sean Gamble: Thank you. Appreciate the questions.
Thanks for all the details, appreciate it. Thank you appreciate the questions.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question has come from the line of Drew Crum with B. Riley Securities. Please proceed with your questions.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question has come from the line of Drew Crum with B. Riley Securities. Please proceed with your questions.
Drew Crum: Okay. Thanks. Hey, guys. Good morning. Your previous guidance for domestic ATP and per cap had been modest growth. I'm curious if there's any update there, any changes to your expectations for the year?
Drew Crum: Okay. Thanks. Hey, guys. Good morning. Your previous guidance for domestic ATP and per cap had been modest growth. I'm curious if there's any update there, any changes to your expectations for the year?
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Okay, thanks guys. Good morning. Um, your previous guidance for domestic ATP and per cap had been modest growth, um, curious if there's any update there. Any changes to your expectations for the year?
Melissa Thomas: Thanks for the question. With respect to average ticket prices, we continue to expect modest growth year-over-year for full year 2025, and that's again driven by strategic pricing opportunities as well as expected increase in premium format mix given our anticipations around the strength of the film slate. Now, do keep in mind that our average ticket prices may fluctuate quarter to quarter based on film mix, but we do expect modest growth in the US year-over-year. Specific to international ticket prices will be impacted by inflationary and FX dynamics in the region and country mix, will also play a factor.
Melissa Thomas: Thanks for the question. With respect to average ticket prices, we continue to expect modest growth year-over-year for full year 2025, and that's again driven by strategic pricing opportunities as well as expected increase in premium format mix given our anticipations around the strength of the film slate. Now, do keep in mind that our average ticket prices may fluctuate quarter to quarter based on film mix, but we do expect modest growth in the US year-over-year. Specific to international ticket prices will be impacted by inflationary and FX dynamics in the region and country mix, will also play a factor.
Melissa Thomas: On the per cap side, for food and beverage, we do continue to expect moderate year-over-year growth in our domestic per cap for full year, and that's driven by the ongoing initiatives we have in place to both increase incidence rates, as well as optimize pricing. Again, similar to our average ticket prices, they will fluctuate quarter to quarter with film mix. The same drivers I mentioned for international on the average ticket price side really apply for per cap, that inflation and FX dynamics, as well as country mix, will influence where they shake out there. Ultimately, our aim is to drive sustainable per cap growth.
Melissa Thomas: On the per cap side, for food and beverage, we do continue to expect moderate year-over-year growth in our domestic per cap for full year, and that's driven by the ongoing initiatives we have in place to both increase incidence rates, as well as optimize pricing. Again, similar to our average ticket prices, they will fluctuate quarter to quarter with film mix. The same drivers I mentioned for international on the average ticket price side really apply for per cap, that inflation and FX dynamics, as well as country mix, will influence where they shake out there. Ultimately, our aim is to drive sustainable per cap growth.
Thanks for the question. So with respect to average ticket prices, we continue to expect modest growth year-over-year for full year 2025 and that's again driven by strategic pricing opportunities, as well as, um, expected increase in premium format. Mix given our anticipations around the strength of the film slate. Now do keep in mind that our average ticket prices, May fluctuate quarter to quarter based on film mix. But we do expect modest growth in the US year-over-year. Specific to International ticket prices will be impacted by inflationary and FX Dynamics in the region and Country. Mix will also play a factor on the per cap side for food and beverage, we do continue to expect moderate year-over-year growth in our domestic per cap for full year. And that's driven by the ongoing initiative.
We have in place to both increase incidence rates as well as optimize pricing again, similar to our average ticket prices. They will fluctuate quarter to quarter with Phil mechs and then the same drivers. I mentioned for international on the average ticket price side, really apply for per caps that, uh, inflation and FX dynamics, as well as country mix, will influence, uh, where they shake out there. But ultimately, our aim is to drive sustainable per cap growth.
Drew Crum: Got it. Thanks, Melissa. On the CapEx guidance, you know, it suggests the spend is very second half weighted. Could you address that? Any other swing factors we need to consider in modeling your free cash flow for the second half? Thanks.
Drew Crum: Got it. Thanks, Melissa. On the CapEx guidance, you know, it suggests the spend is very second half weighted. Could you address that? Any other swing factors we need to consider in modeling your free cash flow for the second half? Thanks.
Got it. Thanks Melissa. And then on the capex guidance you know it suggests to spend is very second half weighted.
Melissa Thomas: Yeah. From a CapEx standpoint, you are correct in that June year to date, we've spent just over $50 million in CapEx. We do still expect our spend levels for this year to be $225 million. It's, as typical with our CapEx, it is typically back half weighted. It does take time for some of these projects to get moving and completed. We still continue to target that. As you think about free cash flow generation for the second half of the year, in addition to cash flow timing, the other thing that I would suggest is just the working capital dynamics of our model.
Melissa Thomas: Yeah. From a CapEx standpoint, you are correct in that June year to date, we've spent just over $50 million in CapEx. We do still expect our spend levels for this year to be $225 million. It's, as typical with our CapEx, it is typically back half weighted. It does take time for some of these projects to get moving and completed. We still continue to target that. As you think about free cash flow generation for the second half of the year, in addition to cash flow timing, the other thing that I would suggest is just the working capital dynamics of our model.
Capex standpoint, you are correct in that we've spent.
Melissa Thomas: Remembering that for Q1 and Q3, we typically have working capital headwinds just given the dynamics between when box office is generated and when our film rental payments are made. In addition to that, our interest payments are more heavily weighted to the Q1 and Q3 of the year. In addition to that, we had kicked off the Q&A with a question around cash taxes. We had previously conveyed on a call that we had expected cash taxes to meaningfully increase in 2025. However, now that we stand to benefit from recent tax litigation, while we're still quantifying those impacts, we're not expecting that same level of increase that we were previously anticipating.
Melissa Thomas: Remembering that for Q1 and Q3, we typically have working capital headwinds just given the dynamics between when box office is generated and when our film rental payments are made. In addition to that, our interest payments are more heavily weighted to the Q1 and Q3 of the year. In addition to that, we had kicked off the Q&A with a question around cash taxes. We had previously conveyed on a call that we had expected cash taxes to meaningfully increase in 2025. However, now that we stand to benefit from recent tax litigation, while we're still quantifying those impacts, we're not expecting that same level of increase that we were previously anticipating.
Year or June year to date. We've spent just over 50 million in capex. We do still expect our spend levels for this year to be 225 million. Um, it's a typical with our capex. It is typically back half weighted, it does take time for some of these projects to um to get moving and completed. So uh we still continue to Target that as you think about free cash flow generation for the second half of the year. In addition to cash flow timing. Uh, the other thing that I would um, suggest is just the working capital dynamics of our model. So remembering that for q1 and Q3. We typically have working capital headwinds just given the Dynamics between when box office is generated and when our film rental payments are made, in addition to that, our interest payments are more
More heavily weighted to, uh, the first quarter and third quarter of the year. And then, in addition to that, we had, uh, kicked off the Q&A with the question around cash taxes. So we had previously, uh, conveyed on a call that we had expected cash taxes to meaningfully increase in 2025. However, now that we stand to benefit,
Melissa Thomas: Those are the kind of puts and takes specific to the second half, as well as, of course, box office and attendance that will be the biggest driver.
Melissa Thomas: Those are the kind of puts and takes specific to the second half, as well as, of course, box office and attendance that will be the biggest driver.
Drew Crum: Yep. Okay. Thanks so much.
Drew Crum: Yep. Okay. Thanks so much.
From recent tax litigation um we while we're still quantifying those impacts. We're not expecting that. Um, same level of increase that we were were previously anticipating. So those are the kind of puts and takes specific to the second half, um, as well as of course, box office and attendance, that will be the biggest driver.
Sean Gamble: Thanks, Drew. Welcome to the call.
Sean Gamble: Thanks, Drew. Welcome to the call.
Yep. Okay, thanks so much.
Thanks Drew. Welcome to the call.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question has come from the line of Robert Fishman with MoffettNathanson. Please proceed with your questions.
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Robert Fishman: Good morning. One for Sean and one for Melissa, if I can. Sean, after the box office success from F1 that you discussed in your prepared remarks, just curious if you've heard anything directly from Apple about their intentions to ramp up the potential number of theatrical releases in the year ahead. On a related note, any updated thoughts on Netflix changing its theatrical strategy, especially with their recent Happy Gilmore 2 release, which, I think we can all say would likely have been a pretty big box office hit?
Robert Fishman: Good morning. One for Sean and one for Melissa, if I can. Sean, after the box office success from F1 that you discussed in your prepared remarks, just curious if you've heard anything directly from Apple about their intentions to ramp up the potential number of theatrical releases in the year ahead. On a related note, any updated thoughts on Netflix changing its theatrical strategy, especially with their recent Happy Gilmore 2 release, which, I think we can all say would likely have been a pretty big box office hit?
Good morning. Uh, 1 for Sean and 1 for Melissa. If I can, um, Sean, after the box office success from F1 that you discussed in your prepared remarks, just curious if you've heard anything directly from Apple about their intentions to ramp up the potential number of theatrical releases in the year ahead. And then, on a related note, any updated thoughts on Netflix changing its theatrical strategy, especially with their recent *Happy Gilmore 2* release, which, uh, I think we can all say would likely have been a pretty big box office?
Sean Gamble: Sure. Well, thanks for the questions, Robert. You know, obviously F1 was a big important film for Apple, and we're just thrilled with the success that they had, you know, releasing that with the help of Warner Bros. It's just been a fantastic movie and a fantastic result. As far as, you know, where does this lead? We know that they have aspirations of doing more in the theatrical space, and this was one kind of big key step along the way of that. You know, good things we think will come. Don't have any specifics to share as of this point. I think that's still being sorted out, but I think this is an encouraging step in terms of what this could lead to for Apple.
Sean Gamble: Sure. Well, thanks for the questions, Robert. You know, obviously F1 was a big important film for Apple, and we're just thrilled with the success that they had, you know, releasing that with the help of Warner Bros. It's just been a fantastic movie and a fantastic result. As far as, you know, where does this lead? We know that they have aspirations of doing more in the theatrical space, and this was one kind of big key step along the way of that. You know, good things we think will come. Don't have any specifics to share as of this point. I think that's still being sorted out, but I think this is an encouraging step in terms of what this could lead to for Apple.
Uh, sure, well, thanks for the questions, Robert. Um, you know, I obviously F1 was a, uh, a big, a big important film for apple and we're just thrilled with the success that they had. Um, you know, releasing that the help of Warner Brothers. It's it's just been a a fantastic movie and a fantastic result. Um as far as you know, where does this lead, we know that they have um aspirations.
Sean Gamble: On the Netflix front, you know, based on their public commentary, you know, it doesn't appear they have any near-term plans to change their overarching strategy. It's clearly unfortunate, just there, as there appears to be a big opportunity that's not being pursued, as all the data clearly shows now that the theatrical release creates a bigger promotional impact, elevates consumers' desire to see films, builds bigger brands and cultural moments, delivers longer longevity and remembrance and value for those assets. It's also important to filmmakers and consumers, but, you know, it appears that's not something they're choosing to elect at this point. You know, we're still optimistic that at some stage they'll change course. Yeah, Happy Gilmore has had great success.
Sean Gamble: On the Netflix front, you know, based on their public commentary, you know, it doesn't appear they have any near-term plans to change their overarching strategy. It's clearly unfortunate, just there, as there appears to be a big opportunity that's not being pursued, as all the data clearly shows now that the theatrical release creates a bigger promotional impact, elevates consumers' desire to see films, builds bigger brands and cultural moments, delivers longer longevity and remembrance and value for those assets. It's also important to filmmakers and consumers, but, you know, it appears that's not something they're choosing to elect at this point. You know, we're still optimistic that at some stage they'll change course. Yeah, Happy Gilmore has had great success.
Of, uh, doing more and that theatrical space. And this was 1 kind of big key, uh, step along the way of that. So, um, you know, good things I we think will come, don't have any specifics to share as of this point. I think that's still being sorted out, but I think this is an encouraging step in terms of what what this could lead to, uh, for for apple on the next Netflix front, you know, um, based on their public commentary. Um, you know, it doesn't appear. They have any any near-term plans uh to change their overarching strategy. Uh, it's clearly unfortunate unfortunate just there is there appears to be a big opportunity that's not being pursued as all the data. Clearly shows. Now that the theatrical release creates a bigger promotional impact elevates consumers, desire to see films, build bigger Brands, and cultural moments delivers longer, um longevity and Remembrance and value for those assets. So it's also
Sean Gamble: Bear in mind, of course, that's a movie based on a big theatrical success of a film, which, you know, many of those movies that have done more business on that platform have been based off of versus original concepts. No, no, we don't have any awareness of any of their plans to shift gears at this stage.
Sean Gamble: Bear in mind, of course, that's a movie based on a big theatrical success of a film, which, you know, many of those movies that have done more business on that platform have been based off of versus original concepts. No, no, we don't have any awareness of any of their plans to shift gears at this stage.
Important to filmmakers and consumers. But, uh, you know, it appears that not something they're choosing to elect at this point. You know, we're still optimistic that at some stage, they'll change course. Uh, yeah. Yeah. Happy Gilmore. I always have great success. Bear in mind, of course, that that's a movie based on a big theatrical success of a film which, you know, many of those movies that have done more business on that platform have been based off of versus original concepts. So, uh, but no, no, not any, we don't have any awareness of any of their plans.
Is to shift gears at this stage.
Robert Fishman: Okay. Thank you. Melissa, maybe similar question to I asked you, I think, last Q, just about the margins. You know, clearly Q1 went with a slower start, followed by the strong margins that you guys just presented for Q2. When you think about the full year margin and the second half slate, anything that you wanna share or update us on where those expectations are and potential upside from here, even if you wanna get into some of the other expense drivers that you talked about outside of G&A? Thank you.
Robert Fishman: Okay. Thank you. Melissa, maybe similar question to I asked you, I think, last Q, just about the margins. You know, clearly Q1 went with a slower start, followed by the strong margins that you guys just presented for Q2. When you think about the full year margin and the second half slate, anything that you wanna share or update us on where those expectations are and potential upside from here, even if you wanna get into some of the other expense drivers that you talked about outside of G&A? Thank you.
Melissa Thomas: Yeah. Yeah. We were certainly very pleased to deliver our second highest quarterly Adjusted EBITDA ever and over 24% margins across both the US and international in the quarter. We do remain optimistic about our long-term margin potential, driven by our expectations around further box office recovery ahead, as well as what we anticipate from the ongoing execution of our strategic initiatives. Primary drivers, I mean, attendance and box office, as we talked about earlier, those are going to be biggest drivers given the operating leverage we gain as revenue scales. That was demonstrated really by the significant margin expansion we even saw just between Q1 and Q2 of this year with the strong slate. Our margins are also influenced by market share, food and beverage per cap, and average ticket prices.
Melissa Thomas: Yeah. Yeah. We were certainly very pleased to deliver our second highest quarterly Adjusted EBITDA ever and over 24% margins across both the US and international in the quarter. We do remain optimistic about our long-term margin potential, driven by our expectations around further box office recovery ahead, as well as what we anticipate from the ongoing execution of our strategic initiatives. Primary drivers, I mean, attendance and box office, as we talked about earlier, those are going to be biggest drivers given the operating leverage we gain as revenue scales. That was demonstrated really by the significant margin expansion we even saw just between Q1 and Q2 of this year with the strong slate. Our margins are also influenced by market share, food and beverage per cap, and average ticket prices.
On where those expectations are and and potential upside from here. Um even if you want to get into some of the other expense drivers that you talked about outside of DNA. Thank you.
Melissa Thomas: The extent of benefits captured by strategic initiatives and our ability to mitigate potential cost pressures also play a significant role in our margin performance. Specific to full year 2025, our margins should benefit from the anticipated box office recovery as well as the higher concession per cap and ticket prices that we mentioned. That said, we are mindful that we're comparing against the elevated market share levels we delivered last year, and our market share may temper in the second half given the cadence of releases as well as the overall scale and relative mix of films. That's particularly the case in the Q4. Of course, ongoing inflationary and other expense dynamics as well as the impact of FX devaluation will also be a factor.
Melissa Thomas: The extent of benefits captured by strategic initiatives and our ability to mitigate potential cost pressures also play a significant role in our margin performance. Specific to full year 2025, our margins should benefit from the anticipated box office recovery as well as the higher concession per cap and ticket prices that we mentioned. That said, we are mindful that we're comparing against the elevated market share levels we delivered last year, and our market share may temper in the second half given the cadence of releases as well as the overall scale and relative mix of films. That's particularly the case in the Q4. Of course, ongoing inflationary and other expense dynamics as well as the impact of FX devaluation will also be a factor.
Yeah, yeah. So we, we were certainly very pleased to deliver our second highest quarterly adjusted EBA ever. And, um, over 24% margins across both the US and International in the quarter and we do remain optimistic about our long-term margin potential. Um driven by our expectations around further box office recovery ahead as as well as what we anticipate from the ongoing execution of our strategic initiatives. Primary drivers. I mean, attendance and box offices. We talked about earlier, those are are going to be biggest drivers, given the operating leverage, we gain as Revenue scales, and that was demonstrated really, by the significant margin expansion. We even saw just between q1 and Q2 of this year. With the strong slate, our margins are also influenced by market share of food and beverage per cap and average ticket prices.
The extent of benefits captured by strategic initiatives and our ability to mitigate potential cost. Pressures also play a significant role in our margin performance specific to full year 2025 so our margins should benefit from the anticipated box office recovery as well as the higher concession per cap and ticket prices that we mentioned. That said we are mindful that we're comparing against
Melissa Thomas: To your point on just the expense side, and what you should keep in mind for the full year margin, I mean, film rental rates, we do continue to expect a higher concentration of blockbuster content, which would impact our film rental rates, wage rates remain a factor. However, we've done a nice job offsetting those with some productivity initiatives that we continue to pursue. The other thing I would keep in mind is utilities and other. We do expect that to remain elevated as we address some deferred maintenance needs across the circuit. Net-net though, we continue to prioritize growing revenue, mitigating costs to maximize our Adjusted EBITDA and margin potential as the box office continues to rebound.
Melissa Thomas: To your point on just the expense side, and what you should keep in mind for the full year margin, I mean, film rental rates, we do continue to expect a higher concentration of blockbuster content, which would impact our film rental rates, wage rates remain a factor. However, we've done a nice job offsetting those with some productivity initiatives that we continue to pursue. The other thing I would keep in mind is utilities and other. We do expect that to remain elevated as we address some deferred maintenance needs across the circuit. Net-net though, we continue to prioritize growing revenue, mitigating costs to maximize our Adjusted EBITDA and margin potential as the box office continues to rebound.
Against the elevated market share levels, we delivered last year and our market share May temper in the second half given the Cadence of releases as well as the overall scale and relative mix of films. And that's particularly the case in the fourth quarter, of course, ongoing inflationary and other expense, uh, Dynamics as well as the impact of FX devaluation, will also be a factor to your point on, just the expense side and what you should keep in mind for, for the full year margins. I mean, film rental rates. We do continue to expect a higher concentration of Blockbuster content which would impact. Our film rental rates and then wage rates remain a factor. However, we've done a nice job offsetting those with some productivity initiatives that we continue to pursue and then the other thing I would keep in mind is utilities and other we do
Expect that to remain elevated. As uh we address some deferred maintenance needs across the circuit. Um, so net net though, we continue to prioritize.
Growing Revenue, mitigating costs to maximize our adjusted, EA and margin potential as the box office continues to rebound.
Robert Fishman: Great. Thank you both.
Robert Fishman: Great. Thank you both.
Sean Gamble: Thanks, Robert.
Sean Gamble: Thanks, Robert.
Great. Thank you both. Thanks Robert.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Patrick Sholl with Barrington Research. Please proceed with your questions.
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Thank you. Our next questions, come from the line of Patrick Shaw, with barington research, please proceed with your questions.
Patrick Sholl: Hi. Thanks for taking the question. I kind of wanna just follow up quickly on your comment on film rent margin and your comments on the majority of box office being outside the PLF. I was just kind of curious if you could discuss some of the ways that you could, you know, approach the film concentration and the ability to market that longer tail of the release as to maybe ease some of that. Maybe just like what the makeup of attendance, what those longer, of the longer tail of that release slate looks like?
Patrick Sholl: Hi. Thanks for taking the question. I kind of wanna just follow up quickly on your comment on film rent margin and your comments on the majority of box office being outside the PLF. I was just kind of curious if you could discuss some of the ways that you could, you know, approach the film concentration and the ability to market that longer tail of the release as to maybe ease some of that. Maybe just like what the makeup of attendance, what those longer, of the longer tail of that release slate looks like?
Hi, thanks for taking the question. Um, I kind of want to just follow up quickly on your comments on um.
uh film RIT margin and your comments on the majority of fox office being outside the PLS. I just kind of curious. If you could discuss some of the ways that you could, you know, approach the film concentration, and the ability to Market that longer, tale of release is to maybe ease some of that.
Maybe just like, what the makeup of attendance of that, what those longer, uh, of the of the longer. Tails of that release, like looks like,
Sean Gamble: I mean, I do think the studios, to a certain degree, you know, they obviously put the bulk of the marketing upfront as they're leading into release. There is a bit of chase that still happens after the fact. It depends on the scale of the film, depends on the performance of the film, you know, it kind of depends on the studio's approach in general to marketing. We do our own supplementary support of that as well, both leading up to as well as following up after a film's in market, specifically as we're kind of looking at people who we think are most inclined to see those films, have they seen it or not, and kind of trying to amplify in those areas.
Sean Gamble: I mean, I do think the studios, to a certain degree, you know, they obviously put the bulk of the marketing upfront as they're leading into release. There is a bit of chase that still happens after the fact. It depends on the scale of the film, depends on the performance of the film, you know, it kind of depends on the studio's approach in general to marketing. We do our own supplementary support of that as well, both leading up to as well as following up after a film's in market, specifically as we're kind of looking at people who we think are most inclined to see those films, have they seen it or not, and kind of trying to amplify in those areas.
Uh, sure, thanks for the question, Pat. I I mean, I do think the the Studio's, uh, to a certain degree, you know, they obviously put the bulk of the marketing up front as their leading into release. Um, there's a bit of Chase that still happens after the fact and that some
Sean Gamble: The ability to actually kind of strategically do that to try to affect film rental, I'm not sure that is kind of the driving force. It's really more, how do we just capture the most box office performance and attendance out of that movie, whether it be upfront or downstream. Some of that is just kind of the natural play through word of mouth, you know, that kind of percolates in terms of what people are saying about the, you know, how they like the movie or not, and what the movie's about, and how that just basically resonates with people. I think, you know, I'm not sure there's a huge opportunity to kind of go after it that way.
Sean Gamble: The ability to actually kind of strategically do that to try to affect film rental, I'm not sure that is kind of the driving force. It's really more, how do we just capture the most box office performance and attendance out of that movie, whether it be upfront or downstream. Some of that is just kind of the natural play through word of mouth, you know, that kind of percolates in terms of what people are saying about the, you know, how they like the movie or not, and what the movie's about, and how that just basically resonates with people. I think, you know, I'm not sure there's a huge opportunity to kind of go after it that way.
It depends on scale of the film, depends on the performance of the film. You know, it depends on the studios um, approach in general to marketing, we do our own supplementary um support of that as well. Both leading up to as well as following up after a films in Market specifically specifically as we're kind of looking at people who we think are most inclined to see those films. Have they seen it or not and kind of trying to amplify in those areas, um, the ability to actually kind of
Sean Gamble: We just continue to look for ways to just ultimately affect the overall outcome and maximize the results through its full play through of all films.
Sean Gamble: We just continue to look for ways to just ultimately affect the overall outcome and maximize the results through its full play through of all films.
Kind of go after it that way. We just continue to look for ways to just ultimately affect the overall outcome and maximize the results through its full playthrough of of all films.
Patrick Sholl: Okay. I was curious if you could talk a little bit about the opportunity for new builds and if you view those mostly as replacing existing theaters where they've maybe gotten a little older, or if those would be more market expansion opportunities, and where you think you would target screen growth going forward?
Patrick Sholl: Okay. I was curious if you could talk a little bit about the opportunity for new builds and if you view those mostly as replacing existing theaters where they've maybe gotten a little older, or if those would be more market expansion opportunities, and where you think you would target screen growth going forward?
Okay. Um, and then I was curious if you could.
Talk a little bit about the opportunity for uh, new builds. And if you view those mostly As replacing,
Sean Gamble: Sure. It could be a combination of both. I'd say generally as we, our real estate team is evaluating market opportunities, we continue to see areas that are underserved, where we can put a new build in there and just grow attendance or, you know, capture attendance that's not being fulfilled right now. In other cases, it may be a matter of replacing an older theater that, rather than go through a major remodel, it just makes more sense to put in a rebuild. I would say more of what we're doing right now, at least as we've reactivated our pipeline of exploration for new build, I'd say more of that is taking the shape of new opportunities versus, you know, replacing older theaters.
Sean Gamble: Sure. It could be a combination of both. I'd say generally as we, our real estate team is evaluating market opportunities, we continue to see areas that are underserved, where we can put a new build in there and just grow attendance or, you know, capture attendance that's not being fulfilled right now. In other cases, it may be a matter of replacing an older theater that, rather than go through a major remodel, it just makes more sense to put in a rebuild. I would say more of what we're doing right now, at least as we've reactivated our pipeline of exploration for new build, I'd say more of that is taking the shape of new opportunities versus, you know, replacing older theaters.
Existing theaters where they've maybe gotten a little older, or if those would be more market expansion opportunities, and where you think you would target screen growth going forward.
Sean Gamble: It could be a mixture of both, just depends on what the market opportunity looks like and what the potential returns are.
Sean Gamble: It could be a mixture of both, just depends on what the market opportunity looks like and what the potential returns are.
Sure. Uh, it could be a combination of of both. Um, uh, I'd say generally as we, uh, our real estate team is evaluating Market opportunities. Um, we continue to see, uh, areas where that are underserved where we can put a new build in there and just grow attendance or, you know, capture attendance as not being fulfilled. Right now, in other cases, it may be a matter of um, replacing an older theater that, uh, rather than go through a major remodel, just makes more sense to put in a rebuild, I would say more of what we're doing right now at least, as we've reactivated our pipeline of exploration for new build. I would say more of that is taking the shape of New Opportunities versus, um, you know, replacing older theaters. But it could be a mixture of both just depends on, uh, what the the market opportunity looks like. And what the
The potential returns are.
Patrick Sholl: Okay. Thank you.
Patrick Sholl: Okay. Thank you.
Sean Gamble: Thanks, Pat.
Sean Gamble: Thanks, Pat.
Okay, thank you. Thanks Pat.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question has come from the line of Eric Wold with Texas Capital Securities. Please proceed with your questions.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question has come from the line of Eric Wold with Texas Capital Securities. Please proceed with your questions.
Eric Wold: Hey, thank you. Good morning. A couple questions. If you look at the Q3 and Q4, the back half of the year, obviously, you know, Q2, you know, Latin America, there's a number of films that, you know, didn't resonate down there versus here, also with a tough comparison to Inside Out last year. As you look at the back half of this year, any films you can see or just how you think about the back half in terms of the slate and any major divergences you can see down in Latin America that could impact performance with the slate?
Eric Wold: Hey, thank you. Good morning. A couple questions. If you look at the Q3 and Q4, the back half of the year, obviously, you know, Q2, you know, Latin America, there's a number of films that, you know, didn't resonate down there versus here, also with a tough comparison to Inside Out last year. As you look at the back half of this year, any films you can see or just how you think about the back half in terms of the slate and any major divergences you can see down in Latin America that could impact performance with the slate?
Thank you. Our next question, has come from the line of Eric Wald with Texas, Capitol Securities please proceed with your questions.
Hey, thank you. Uh, good morning. Um,
Eric Wold: With regard to your pricing initiatives both here and in Latin America, how do you think about your pricing power around both tickets and concessions heading into the end of summer and into the holiday box office period with where we are with the consumer right now? Thank you.
Eric Wold: With regard to your pricing initiatives both here and in Latin America, how do you think about your pricing power around both tickets and concessions heading into the end of summer and into the holiday box office period with where we are with the consumer right now? Thank you.
Sean Gamble: Sure. Thanks, Eric. Yeah, the second half of the year as far as the profile of the films for LATAM, I would also say similar to kind of what we've seen recently, it's a little bit of a mixed bag of things. There's a range of films that we think will resonate really well and perform probably in line, if not better than the US, and there's a handful of films, conversely, that will likely over-index in the US. I mean, some examples, Superman, which already released, performed very well throughout the region, but it under-indexed the US a bit, similar to what we've seen in other international markets.
Sean Gamble: Sure. Thanks, Eric. Yeah, the second half of the year as far as the profile of the films for LATAM, I would also say similar to kind of what we've seen recently, it's a little bit of a mixed bag of things. There's a range of films that we think will resonate really well and perform probably in line, if not better than the US, and there's a handful of films, conversely, that will likely over-index in the US. I mean, some examples, Superman, which already released, performed very well throughout the region, but it under-indexed the US a bit, similar to what we've seen in other international markets.
A couple questions. If you look at the, the Q3 and Q4 the back half of the year, um, obviously you know, 2 2, you know, Latin America, there's a number of films that that, you know, didn't resonate down there versus here also, with a tough comparison to inside out last year. So you look at the back half of this year, um, any films you can see, or just, how do you think about the back half in terms of um, the slate and any major divergences you, you you can see, um, down the line in America that could impact performance, um, with the, with the Slate. Um, and then with regards to your pricing, um, initiatives both here. And, and in Latin America, how do you think about your pricing power? Um, around both tickets, um, and concessions heading, um, into the end of summer, um, and into the holiday box office, period with where we are with the consumer right now. Thank you.
Sean Gamble: Title in Q3, like The Conjuring will do really well, while, whereas films like Freakier Friday, Naked Gun, The Bad Guys 2, we expect those will likely over-index in the US in comparison to LATAM. As we move into Q4, similarly, again, family films, horror films, those tend to work better in the region than sci-fi and fantasy and things of that sort. Movies like Zootopia 2, Five Nights at Freddy's 2, we think they'll resonate extremely well, whilst other films like Wicked: For Good, The Running Man, Mortal Kombat II to a certain degree, Tron: Ares, like, these are films we expect will work much better in the US, and to a lesser degree in that market.
Sean Gamble: Title in Q3, like The Conjuring will do really well, while, whereas films like Freakier Friday, Naked Gun, The Bad Guys 2, we expect those will likely over-index in the US in comparison to LATAM. As we move into Q4, similarly, again, family films, horror films, those tend to work better in the region than sci-fi and fantasy and things of that sort. Movies like Zootopia 2, Five Nights at Freddy's 2, we think they'll resonate extremely well, whilst other films like Wicked: For Good, The Running Man, Mortal Kombat II to a certain degree, Tron: Ares, like, these are films we expect will work much better in the US, and to a lesser degree in that market.
Sure, that thanks Eric. Um yeah the second half of the year as far as the uh the profile of the films for latam. Um, I would also say similar to kind of what we've seen recently. It's a little bit of a, a mixed bag of things. There's, um, a range of films that we think will resonate really well. And perform probably in line if not better than the US and there's a handful of films. Um, conversely that will likely over index in the US. Um, I mean some examples Superman which already released uh, performed very well throughout the region, but it it on their index. Do ux a bit, um, similar to what we've seen in in other International markets uh title on the third quarter. Like The Conjuring will do really well. Um, while whereas films, like freakier Friday, Naked Gun bad days too. We expect those will likely, uh, over index in the US in comparison to that am as we move into the fourth quarter.
Similarly, uh, again family films, uh, horror films, those tend to work better in the region um, than sci-fi and fantasy and things of that sort. So movies, like zootopia 2 5 nights at Freddy's 2, we think they'll resonate extremely well. Um, while as other films, like, Wicked for good, The Running Man. Um, Mortal Kombat 2 to a certain degree Tron areas, like these are films that will will we expect will work much better in the US.
Sean Gamble: It's really a mixture, and then it's just gonna depend on the nature of how in the totality those films compare one relative to another in terms of what the full composition of box office winds up being. The only other thing I would say is from a timing standpoint, which was a question asked earlier, a film like SpongeBob, which is a good family film for that market, that has shifted to 2026 for Brazil, Argentina, and Chile. While that will all happen in the US, and North America in Q4, it'll fall into Q1 for those countries.
Sean Gamble: It's really a mixture, and then it's just gonna depend on the nature of how in the totality those films compare one relative to another in terms of what the full composition of box office winds up being. The only other thing I would say is from a timing standpoint, which was a question asked earlier, a film like SpongeBob, which is a good family film for that market, that has shifted to 2026 for Brazil, Argentina, and Chile. While that will all happen in the US, and North America in Q4, it'll fall into Q1 for those countries.
Melissa Thomas: From a pricing power standpoint, we do continue to see opportunities on the strategic pricing front for both tickets as well as food and beverage based on our ongoing analysis of data and analytics by our teams. I think Sean mentioned a little bit of this earlier, but we are really driving our pricing decisions based on elasticity of demand, and our ultimate goal is to maximize attendance, box office, and overall revenue. We continue to leverage data to guide those decisions, and we approach it thoughtfully given the economic background. We want our guests to feel they've received a great overall value for the experience, and we believe that strategy has benefited us when we look at our attendance recovery relative to the industry and our overall concession per cap growth since the pandemic.
Um, and to a lesser degree in in that market. So uh, it's really a mixture and then it's just going to depend on the nature of how in the totality of those films. Compare 1 relative to another in terms of what the full composition of of box office, winds up being the only other thing I would say is from a timing standpoint, which is a question as earlier, um, a film like SpongeBob, which is a good family film for that market that has shifted to 2026 for Brazil, Argentina, and Chile. So, while that will all happen in the US uh, in North America, in the fourth quarter, it'll fall into the first quarter for those countries.
Melissa Thomas: From a pricing power standpoint, we do continue to see opportunities on the strategic pricing front for both tickets as well as food and beverage based on our ongoing analysis of data and analytics by our teams. I think Sean mentioned a little bit of this earlier, but we are really driving our pricing decisions based on elasticity of demand, and our ultimate goal is to maximize attendance, box office, and overall revenue. We continue to leverage data to guide those decisions, and we approach it thoughtfully given the economic background. We want our guests to feel they've received a great overall value for the experience, and we believe that strategy has benefited us when we look at our attendance recovery relative to the industry and our overall concession per cap growth since the pandemic.
Based on our ongoing analysis of data and analytics by our teams and I think Sean mentioned a little bit of this earlier but we are really driving our pricing decisions based on elasticity of demand. And our ultimate goal is to maximize attendance box office and overall revenue, and we continue to leverage data to guide those decisions. And we approach a thoughtfully give any economic background. But we want our guests to feel, they've received a great overall value for the experience. And we believe that strategy is benefited us when we look at our attendance recovery relative to the industry and our overall, concession per cap growth since the pandemic
Stephen Laszczyk: All right.
Eric Wold: All right.
All right.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question has come from the line of Stephen Laszczyk with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your questions.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question has come from the line of Stephen Laszczyk with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your questions.
Stephen Laszczyk: Hey, great. Thank you for taking the questions. Maybe first on market share. Just would be curious if you comment on how market share has trended so far in Q3, perhaps across North America and international, given what we've seen play out so far, through July. A second one for Melissa on salaries and wages. Would love to if you could just talk a little bit more about how flexible you were able to be in Q2 on scaling labor, up and down as you saw box office demand materialize, week in and week out. Looking ahead, just curious to what extent you think there's more opportunity to gain efficiency on that line item, setting aside some of the operating leverage that you naturally get from higher box. Thank you.
Stephen Laszczyk: Hey, great. Thank you for taking the questions. Maybe first on market share. Just would be curious if you comment on how market share has trended so far in Q3, perhaps across North America and international, given what we've seen play out so far, through July. A second one for Melissa on salaries and wages. Would love to if you could just talk a little bit more about how flexible you were able to be in Q2 on scaling labor, up and down as you saw box office demand materialize, week in and week out. Looking ahead, just curious to what extent you think there's more opportunity to gain efficiency on that line item, setting aside some of the operating leverage that you naturally get from higher box. Thank you.
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Hey great. Thank you for taking the questions. Uh, maybe first on market share, uh just would be curious if you comment on how mortgage share is trended. So far in the third quarter uh perhaps across North America and international given what we've seen play out so far uh through July. And then um a second 1 for Melissa on salaries and wages. I would love to see if you could just talk a little bit more about how flexible you were able to be in the second quarter on scaling Labor, uh, up and down, as you saw box office demand materialize a week in and week out and uh, looking
Sean Gamble: Sure. I'll start with the market share question. You know, and just speak a little bit more broadly. You know, first half, we're thrilled with our market share results. They exceeded our expectations, you know, clearly with a high mix of family films that outperformed, as well as kind of a balanced spread of the outperforming films throughout the quarter, which minimized us hitting our capacity constraints, you know, particularly during Q2. We continue to expect to sustain our 100 basis points or so of structural gains going forward. Obviously, you know, the quarterly content mix and volume will fluctuate a bit. As we shift to the second half, we do think that could temper a bit. Q3 share has been, you know, performing well.
Sean Gamble: Sure. I'll start with the market share question. You know, and just speak a little bit more broadly. You know, first half, we're thrilled with our market share results. They exceeded our expectations, you know, clearly with a high mix of family films that outperformed, as well as kind of a balanced spread of the outperforming films throughout the quarter, which minimized us hitting our capacity constraints, you know, particularly during Q2. We continue to expect to sustain our 100 basis points or so of structural gains going forward. Obviously, you know, the quarterly content mix and volume will fluctuate a bit. As we shift to the second half, we do think that could temper a bit. Q3 share has been, you know, performing well.
Had just curious to to what extent you think. There's more opportunity to gain efficiency on that line item uh setting aside some of the operating leverage that you naturally get from from higher box. Thank you.
Sean Gamble: I think we'll see how the spread works. It's obviously a slightly less congested overall quarter, which could work in our favor. Q4, we could see it perhaps tempering a bit more with a higher volume of blockbuster releases that are kinda concentrated and a bit more proximity of release dating, as well as a higher concentration of just sci-fi and fantasy-skewing films, which tend to kinda skew a little bit lower for our circuit than those, you know, those family films and those horror films and kinda, you know, more real action types of titles.
Sean Gamble: I think we'll see how the spread works. It's obviously a slightly less congested overall quarter, which could work in our favor. Q4, we could see it perhaps tempering a bit more with a higher volume of blockbuster releases that are kinda concentrated and a bit more proximity of release dating, as well as a higher concentration of just sci-fi and fantasy-skewing films, which tend to kinda skew a little bit lower for our circuit than those, you know, those family films and those horror films and kinda, you know, more real action types of titles.
Sure I'll start with the, uh, the market share question. Um, you know, and just speak a little bit more, broadly, you know, first half, um, we're thrilled with our market share results. They exceeded our expectations, you know, clearly with a, a high mix of, uh, family films, that outperformed, uh, as well as kind of a balance spread of the outperforming films throughout the quarter, which minimized us hitting our capacity constraints, you know, particularly during the second quarter. Um, we continue to expect to sustain our 100 basis points or so of structural gains going forward. Uh, and obviously, you know, the the quarterly content makes and volume will fluctuate a bit. Is we, we shift to the second half. Um, we do think that could temper a bit, um, third quarter, uh, sure has been, you know, performing, you know, performing well. I think we'll see how the spread works. It's obviously a slightly less congested overall quarter, which could could work in our favor. Um, fourth quarter. We could see it, perhaps tempering a bit more with a higher volume of Blockbuster releases that are, are kind of concentrated in a bit more proximity.
Of release dating uh, as well as a higher concentration of just sci-fi and fantasy skewing films, which tend to to to kind of skew a little bit lower for our circuit than those you know, those family films and those horror films and kind of, you know, more real action types of of titles.
Melissa Thomas: On the salaries and wages side, we were really pleased domestically. Our salaries and wages were up only 12.5% on 27% attendance. We did a nice job. We've put tools in place that allow us to flex our labor hours up and down based on anticipated attendance levels week to week, as well as our operating hours. What you're seeing is that our labor hours are flexing, but not necessarily at the same rate as attendance, which has benefited that labor line item. We feel good about our ability to continue to flex labor and respond to changes in box office and attendance. There are times where, and you see this on an international, where we have less flexibility on the international side as box office deviates from our expectations.
Melissa Thomas: On the salaries and wages side, we were really pleased domestically. Our salaries and wages were up only 12.5% on 27% attendance. We did a nice job. We've put tools in place that allow us to flex our labor hours up and down based on anticipated attendance levels week to week, as well as our operating hours. What you're seeing is that our labor hours are flexing, but not necessarily at the same rate as attendance, which has benefited that labor line item. We feel good about our ability to continue to flex labor and respond to changes in box office and attendance. There are times where, and you see this on an international, where we have less flexibility on the international side as box office deviates from our expectations.
And then on the salaries and wages side. So we were really pleased. Domestically, our salaries and wages were up, only 12 and a half percent on 27% attendance. So we did a nice job. We've put tools in place that allow us to flex our labor hours Up and Down based on anticipated attendance levels week to week, as well as our operating hours. So what you're seeing is that our labor hours are flexing but not necessarily at the same rate as attendance, which has benefited uh that labor line item. So we feel good about our ability to continue to flex labor and respond to, uh, changes in, in box office and attendance. Now, there are times where and you see this on an international where we have less flexibility on the international side,
Melissa Thomas: There, just by way of local labor laws, we do have less flexibility to adjust on a more real-time basis. You saw a bit of that in Q2 come through on international salaries and wages because they were comping Inside Out 2 from last year, where that just over-indexed in Latin America and outperformed our projections. There was favorability last year as a result of that, and we comped that this year. All in all, we continue to focus on labor productivity initiatives and building those tools and processes that allow us to continue to drive productivity as the box office scales.
Melissa Thomas: There, just by way of local labor laws, we do have less flexibility to adjust on a more real-time basis. You saw a bit of that in Q2 come through on international salaries and wages because they were comping Inside Out 2 from last year, where that just over-indexed in Latin America and outperformed our projections. There was favorability last year as a result of that, and we comped that this year. All in all, we continue to focus on labor productivity initiatives and building those tools and processes that allow us to continue to drive productivity as the box office scales.
As box office deviates from our expectations. So they're just by way of local labor laws. We do have less flexibility to adjust, um, on a more real-time basis. So, you saw a bit of that, in the second quarter come through on International salaries and wages because they were comping inside out too from last year. Where that just
Over indexed in Latin America and outperformed our projections. So there was favorability last year as a result of that, and we comped that this year, but all in all we continue to focus on labor productivity initiatives and and building those tools and processes that allow it to continue, uh, to drive productivity as the box office scale.
Stephen Laszczyk: Thank you both.
Stephen Laszczyk: Thank you both.
Sean Gamble: Thanks, Steve.
Sean Gamble: Thanks, Steve.
Thank you both. Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question has come from the line of Omar Mejias with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your questions.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question has come from the line of Omar Mejias with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your questions.
Our next questions come from the line of Omar Mahas with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your questions.
Omar Mejias: Good morning. Thanks for the question. Sean, maybe first, in the past, you've talked about actively capitalizing on market opportunities and potentially adding new assets. Just wanted to get your updated view on M&A opportunities to continue to expand the footprint and if there's any interest in enhancing your presence in major urban markets?
Omar Mejias: Good morning. Thanks for the question. Sean, maybe first, in the past, you've talked about actively capitalizing on market opportunities and potentially adding new assets. Just wanted to get your updated view on M&A opportunities to continue to expand the footprint and if there's any interest in enhancing your presence in major urban markets?
Good morning and thanks to the question.
Sean may maybe first in in the past. You've talked about actively capitalizing on Market opportunities and potentially adding new assets. Just just wanted to get your updated view on m&a opportunities to continue to expand the footprint. And if there's any interest in enhancing your presence in major Urban markets.
Sean Gamble: Sure. Thanks, thanks for the question, Omar. Yeah, I mean, as we look to further optimize our circuit and grow, you know, M&A is certainly one of the potential channels that we look to do so. So it's something we're open to. We do tend to prefer deepening penetration in the markets we already have presence, you know, to leverage our existing infrastructure and relationships and market knowledge, but we obviously also consider other factors like scale and strategic importance and competitive positioning and market profile and getting into, certain, getting deeper into other urban areas to the extent that the right returns profiles are in place and the financial accretive, you know, confidence is there, is something that would be of interest.
Sean Gamble: Sure. Thanks, thanks for the question, Omar. Yeah, I mean, as we look to further optimize our circuit and grow, you know, M&A is certainly one of the potential channels that we look to do so. So it's something we're open to. We do tend to prefer deepening penetration in the markets we already have presence, you know, to leverage our existing infrastructure and relationships and market knowledge, but we obviously also consider other factors like scale and strategic importance and competitive positioning and market profile and getting into, certain, getting deeper into other urban areas to the extent that the right returns profiles are in place and the financial accretive, you know, confidence is there, is something that would be of interest.
Sean Gamble: I think it boils down to what opportunities are out there and what are high confidence types of potential M&A situations. You know, we don't believe in growth just simply for growth's sake. You know, we've been very disciplined about how we deploy our capital, targeting those types of financially accretive investments that don't overly strain our balance sheet. We've had a great track record of delivering solid returns. With that approach, we think it continues to be the prudent way to move forward. We're actively out there kind of evaluating opportunities, and we'll continue to follow a process like that as we approach, you know, potential M&A situations.
Sean Gamble: I think it boils down to what opportunities are out there and what are high confidence types of potential M&A situations. You know, we don't believe in growth just simply for growth's sake. You know, we've been very disciplined about how we deploy our capital, targeting those types of financially accretive investments that don't overly strain our balance sheet. We've had a great track record of delivering solid returns. With that approach, we think it continues to be the prudent way to move forward. We're actively out there kind of evaluating opportunities, and we'll continue to follow a process like that as we approach, you know, potential M&A situations.
Uh, sure thanks. Uh, thanks for the question, Omar. Yeah, I mean as we look to further optimize our circuit and grow you know m&a is is certainly 1 of the potential channels that we look to do. So um so it's something we're open to uh we do tend to prefer deepening penetration in the markets. We already have presence, you know, to leverage our, our existing infrastructure and relationships and market knowledge, but we obviously also consider other factors like scale and strategic importance, and competitive positioning, and Market profile, and you're getting into um, certain getting deeper into other urban areas to the extent that the the right returns profiles are in place. And the, uh, Financial accretive, you know, confidence is there is something that would be of interest. I think it boils down to what opportunities are out there and what our high confidence types of potential m&a. Um situations, you know we um,
We don't believe in growth just simply for growth's sake, you know, we've been very disciplined about how we deploy, our Capital targeting, those types of financially creative Investments that don't overly strain, our balance sheet, and we've had a, a great track record of delivering solid returns with that approach and we think it continues to be The Prudent way to move forward. So we're we're actively out there kind of evaluating opportunities and we'll continue to follow a process like that as we approach, you know, potential uh um potential m&a.
Situations.
Omar Mejias: Thank you very much. Melissa, a housekeeping question for me. I think you touched on this earlier on the deferred maintenance one-time item. I think you had called that out at around $8 to 10 million.
Omar Mejias: Thank you very much. Melissa, a housekeeping question for me. I think you touched on this earlier on the deferred maintenance one-time item. I think you had called that out at around $8 to 10 million.
Melissa Thomas: Mm-hmm.
Melissa Thomas: Mm-hmm.
Omar Mejias: impact in the utilities line item for the year. Can you quantify how much of this impacted Q2 results and how much you have left for the remainder of the year?
Omar Mejias: impact in the utilities line item for the year. Can you quantify how much of this impacted Q2 results and how much you have left for the remainder of the year?
Melissa Thomas: Yeah. About half of that spend has already incurred through Q1 and Q2 of the year. Q2 was about $4 million of an impact. You have basically half left for the remainder of the year.
Melissa Thomas: Yeah. About half of that spend has already incurred through Q1 and Q2 of the year. Q2 was about $4 million of an impact. You have basically half left for the remainder of the year.
Thank you very much and Melissa um, a housekeeping question for me. I think you, you, you touched on this earlier, on the, the for maintenance. Um 1 time item. I think you have called that out at around 8 to 10 million. Um, impacts in the utilities line item for the year can. Can you quantify how much of this inspector toq results and how much you have left for for the remaining of the year?
Yeah, so about half of that spend has already incurred through the first 2 quarters of the Year. Second quarter was about 4 million of an impact. So, you have about, uh, you have basically half left for the remainder of the year.
Omar Mejias: Okay. Should we think about it, like, evenly split through Q4?
Omar Mejias: Okay. Should we think about it, like, evenly split through Q4?
Melissa Thomas: I would have more heavily weight Q3 than I would Q4 in that cadence.
Thank you. Should we think about it, like evenly split for 3 to 4 Kids?
Melissa Thomas: I would have more heavily weight Q3 than I would Q4 in that cadence.
More heavily weight.
3, then I would Q4
Omar Mejias: Great. Thank you. Appreciate it.
Omar Mejias: Great. Thank you. Appreciate it.
Sean Gamble: Thanks so much.
Sean Gamble: Thanks so much.
Melissa Thomas: You're welcome.
Melissa Thomas: You're welcome.
Great. Thank you. I appreciate it. Thanks, Omar. Welcome.
Operator: Thank you. This now concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the floor back over to Sean Gamble for any closing comments.
Operator: Thank you. This now concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the floor back over to Sean Gamble for any closing comments.
Sean Gamble: Thank you, Daryl, and thank you to everyone for joining us this morning. We certainly appreciate all the questions and interest, and we look forward to speaking with you all again, following our Q3 results. Have a great day.
Sean Gamble: Thank you, Daryl, and thank you to everyone for joining us this morning. We certainly appreciate all the questions and interest, and we look forward to speaking with you all again, following our Q3 results. Have a great day.
Thank you. This now concludes our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the floor back over to Sean Gamble for any closing comments.
Uh, thank you Daryl and, and thank you to uh, everyone for joining us this morning. We certainly appreciate all the questions interest and we look forward to speaking with you all again. Uh, following our third quarter results, have a great day.
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