Q2 2025 Bumble Inc Earnings Call
Good evening. Thank you for attending the Bumble second quarter, 2025 final Financial results conference call.
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Thank you for joining us to discuss Bumble's second quarter 2025 financial results.
With me today are bumble's, founder and CEO. Whitney Wolfe herd, and interim, CFO, Ron feore.
before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that certain statements made on the call today, are forward-looking statements
These forward-looking statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties and reflect our current expectations based on our beliefs, assumptions, and information currently available to us.
Although we believe these expectations are reasonable we undertake no obligation to revise, any statement to reflect changes that occur after this call.
Descriptions of factors and risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from these. Forward-looking statements are discussed in more detail. In today's earnings, press release and our periodic filings with the SEC. During the call, we also refer to certain non-gaap Financial measures these non-gaap measures should be considered in addition to and not as a substitute for or in isolation from our Gap results.
Reconciliations to the most comparable gaap measures are available in our earnings press release, which is available on the investor relations section of our website at IR bumble.com.
With that. I will turn the call over to Whitney.
Hello everybody.
and thank you for joining us for
2. Erne calls.
EO of Bumble and reset our strategy for quality over quantity across the whole business.
Including how we operate our revenue and payers and importantly, Our member base.
We've taken decisive actions over the last quarter.
We've removed over 100 million dollars from our cost base by streamlining operations, restructuring headcounts and shifting to a more efficient, organic marketing engine.
These changes have sharpened our operational discipline and positioned us for a return to growth.
We've reorganized for Speed and focus rebalancing engineering to the US unifying, our product roadmap.
And bringing in exceptional leadership.
All while building a leaner higher performing team.
These efforts contributed to record EBA margins in Q2.
and while this level of performance,
Shouldn't be viewed as a steady state Baseline. Profitability margin expansion and cash flow will remain core. Priorities, even as we redeploy, some of our cost-based savings into selective high impact Investments across product Ai ux and trust and safety.
We believe we can do both.
Running healthy efficient business.
And strategically invest in the long-term future of bumble with discipline intention and a Relentless focus on quality.
Extends the type of revenue and payers. We are prioritizing. The majority of this quarter's payer decline came from the phase-out of a legacy strategy related to promotions, which were skewed towards certain of our lower monetizing, non-core markets.
As of late April, we have been re-emphasizing our core of sustainable, full-priced subscriptions.
Encouragingly our full price payer base increased quarter over quarter and subscriptions now, represent a proximately 80% of total payers up from 70% in q1.
This is reflected in our, our PPU increases.
We believe this may be an encouraging signal that removing lower quality Revenue moves us towards a stronger, more sustainable Baseline for our payer base. As we look to return to growth.
Now, let's talk about the progress, we're making on, improving the quality of Our member base.
At Bumble. Our product is people, the quality of someone's experience, how they engage, find what they're looking for, and monetize, depends on the quality of who and what they encounter on the platform.
We are executing this work through our beehive fit framework, which is designed to create the right conditions for meaningful connection.
Authentic, robust profiles.
Clear intent signals and respectful Behavior. It's not about exclusion. It's about how well people show up.
To assess our members using our beehive fit framework. We are using 3 categories
The first is approved, these are members showing High intention effort and alignment with the experience. We are building. They are verified, they engage well on the product. They have robust profiles.
These people are great members of the community.
Follow our community guidelines and are seen as high quality and compelling daters by the other members on the platform.
The second and largest group is improved members who have the right intentions, but may need clearer guidance. That are tools or stronger sense of what a high-quality profile and experience should look like.
We are focused on supporting them.
And this represents 1 of our biggest areas of opportunity. For example someone who follows all Community guidelines but has only 1 blurry photo and no bio. That's a simple high impact Improvement by helping these members show up more fully, we believe we can move more of them to the approved category.
This will enhance their experience and drive better engagement for them. And in turn, unlock a healthier member base with increased retention and stronger. Monetization
Importantly.
Approved members monetize at approximately double, the rates of our improved members.
The third category is removed.
We've always prioritized trust and safety. Last quarter, we significantly deepened our focus.
In March, we accelerated efforts to identify and ultimately remove Bad actors and low intent members, a strategic step aligned with our quality first approach. It includes removing duplicate accounts member to break, Trust.
But scammers or those that don't follow our community guidelines.
But also members with low quality and complete profiles and no willingness to improve.
Improve members. Don't take the steps to engage. Meaningfully, they transition to remove.
we believe that removing these profiles will create a stronger safer environment, for our high intent Community, making the overall experience much better even if it contributes to a near-term headwind to payers
Our goal with beehive fit is to move as many members into the approved category as possible.
And this will be and always on Focus for us over the long term as new members continue to join us.
We remain laser focused on cleanup discipline and resetting the bar, but we're already shifting into build mode as we set the stage for renewed sustainable growth.
Naturally filtering out. Those less willing to engage meaningfully
We are also introducing our human and AI powered coaching hub.
This launch is foundational to strengthening the platform and improving outcomes for the people who are here for the right reasons.
From there, we'll maintain a steady drum beat of improvements across products and Tech with another milestone. In February when we debut, what, we believe will be the safest and most Innovative version of bumble, yet,
This next phase is about reactivating, our community and personalizing every part of the journey from onboarding to matching to meeting in real life.
On the BFF side, we will also launch the all-new Bumble BFF app, this month built on Geneva's group, Tech and Bumble safety infrastructure. It combines 1-on-1 matching and events with Community features to quickly. Follow designed to help people. Build real friendships offline,
With minimal investment, BFF is already a top friend-finding app in the United States, especially among Gen Z and younger Millennial women. We see it as one of our most exciting long-term growth opportunities, especially as the demand for friendship, real-world connection, and belonging continues to grow.
Bumble and Bumble BFF are both powered by a clear technology vision.
Build proprietary AI capabilities to create more human connection under our new CTO. We've rebuilt our core Tech org with a single mandate help people find love safely and efficiently.
AI is being embedded responsibly and ethically across the entire product ecosystem from matchmaking and personalization to member support and internal operations. We have data Rich insights on what our members are looking for and how they achieve successful outcomes.
For Bumble date. We are building a fully modern AI. First Cloud native Tech stack.
From the ground up with a new infrastructure set to be completed. By next spring in parallel, we'll continue optimizing the current stack to support ongoing performance and stability. Bumblebee FS meanwhile is migrating to an already modern platform. Through our acquisition of Geneva giving us speed and flexibility and scaling group and Community features.
Everything we build is grounded in real world outcomes. Not endless engagement, our AI systems will be trained in continuously refined by real matchmakers in relationship, experts ensuring that incites prompts and recommendations are shaped by emotional intelligence and modern relationship science.
Now, let's talk about marketing.
At Bumble, marketing isn't here to cover for an average product.
It's here to amplify a product people need and love.
We are focused on building the best experience in the category because a great product is what keeps people coming back.
Historically, our performance marketing lacked clear guardrails. We've now realigned marketing with our focus on organic growth, high-quality acquisition, and durable engagement. We are already seeing early signs of progress; retention and organic registrations are.
Up, we're doing all of this while preserving 1 of our strongest assets. Our brand among scale dating apps in the US Bumble holds the highest favorability among women and the general population with a competitive standing among gen Z with improvements in each of these key Demos in Q2.
Coming alongside the product update in the love launch. Later. This month is a brand moment rooted in real stories of Love connection and family that Bumble has helped create
It is a powerful reminder for the impact. We help create in the world.
Behind all of this work is a team that's getting stronger and stronger. In just a few months, we have both shrunk the team to a much leaner organization and added exceptional leaders.
A product Tech marketing and legal and now Finance.
We are thrilled to welcome Kevin Cook as our new CFO this month.
Our leadership transformation has helped us attract top talent with purpose and passion.
With a very high bar for any additions, including considering whether AI can do all or part of the work of each potential new head.
Prioritizing a lean high-performing team.
Across the company. We've reorganized to move faster with more focus and ownership. We are building a team designed for scale speed, and with heart.
We are just a few months in, but the energy is real, the clarity, the focus, the urgency. It's all here. We are not building for where the world was or is we are building for where it's going. We have committed to Bringing bumblebee back to being a truly member first company.
Everything we're building is rooted in what our members want, need, and deserve. When they speak, we listen.
Our primary goal is to deliver an experience that helps them find real love friendship and connection.
Now, I'll hand it over to Ron. Thank you so much.
Thank you, Whitney, and good afternoon, everyone.
As Whitney mentioned, Q2 reflects early results of the decisive steps we've taken to reenter Bumble around quality and to deliver the best member experience possible.
Reshaping Bumble to prioritize quality.
And the member experience has, by design, weighed on our revenue and paying user count.
While also improving our PPU. We are making this trade-off intentionally in order to prioritize high-quality relevant matches and a better member experience to drive. Fumbles organic sustainable, growth in the years ahead,
today, I will share updates on how our member base Improvement strategy. May influence our performance near-term, but I will start with a summary of our second quarter Financial results.
Our Q2 performance, exceeded the company's late, June upwardly revised expectations Bumble Inc. Q2 Revenue was 248 million including a favorable impact from foreign exchange of approximately $2 million.
Bumble app. Revenue was 201 million, including a foreign exchange Tailwind of approximately 1 million dollars.
This brings year-to-date total revenue to 495 million.
Total paying users in the quarter were 3.8 million, and Bumble app paying users were 2.5 million.
The new app and other Revenue was 47 million, including a million dollar foreign exchange Tailwind during the quarter and benefited from fruits and official revenue of approximately million dollars in total before each was sold and shut down respectively.
Value app and other paying users totaled 1.3 million.
Turning now to expenses.
Total Q2 gap. Offering costs were $587 million, and we reported a GAAP net loss of $367 million, primarily driven by an impairment loss of $405 million.
on a non-gaap basis, which excludes stock-based compensation and other non-cash or non-recurring items. Operating expenses were 154 million
The year-over-year decline of approximately 21% was primarily driven by reduced marketing expenditure and lower headcount. As a result of the restructuring plan executed in 2024,
Adjusted EVA for Q2 was $95 million, representing 38% of revenues, benefiting primarily from a lower than anticipated impact from the reduced Performance Marketing spend, more selective spending, and brand marketing.
Headcount savings and the impact of the additional fruits revenues.
Year to date adjusted Eva. Totals 159, million representing a 32% margin.
We reported strong cash flow of 71 million in Q2 year to date. We have generated over 114 million from operating activities and we entered the quarter with 262 million in cash and cash equivalents
I'd like to highlight a few notable updates from the quarter.
As Whitney indicated, we have moved decisively to streamline our operations and optimized for execution on our strategy.
We have removed approximately 100 million dollars in annualized costs.
including approximately $40 million related to the June reduction in our workforce, which affected approximately 240 roles.
With the balance in marketing spend, as we reorient our strategy and support our organic growth focus.
and to selectively high impact Investments across products AI, ux, trust and safety, over the coming quarters,
With respect to performance marketing, we cut even deeper than initially planned. As we saw that the cuts we were making had a smaller-than-expected impact on our near-term revenue.
This outcome has reinforced our conviction that performance spend was not efficiently. Acquiring high-quality members and validate our strategic shift away from performance focused marketing.
Overall, you should anticipate that marketing spend will increase from Q2 levels in the second half of the year in support of brand initiatives. Including our August product moment as well as spend later in the year in support of the BFF initiatives and our regular drum beat of product updates.
On the talent front, we are being highly disciplined on headcount with our Focus primarily on product, and AI related engineering roles as we refocus these teams in the United States.
The initiatives are factored into the Q3 guidance. We've issued today.
I also want to call out that in June. We began testing direct billing options, for some purchases on iOS. In select us markets offering customers discounted pricing.
Early results have been positive with up to 30% of targeted members opting for direct billing.
We will continue refining this process but we already expect we could see a modest positive impact to our gross profit dollars in fiscal year 25, as a result of this change, if it rolls out, more broadly,
it is worth noting that these tests could result in headwinds to our reported Revenue as we offer lower prices, but should result in improved gross. Margins. As we keep more of that Revenue compared to a full price purchase,
After accounting for App Store fees.
Turning to guidance for Q3.
We expect total bumbling revenue between 240 million, and 2048 million representing a year-over-year, decrease of 12 to 9%.
Excluding foreign exchange and fruits and officials this translates to a decrease of between 12% and 9%.
We expect Bumble app Revenue to be between 194 million and 200 million. Representing a year-over-year, decrease of between 12% and 9%.
Additionally, we estimate adjusted ebit die in Q3 to between 79 million and 844 million representing a margin of approximately 33% at the midpoint of the range.
The sequential comparison reflects primarily a return to Brand spending in support of our August product moment.
In each of Q3 and Q4, we expect to pay down 25 million of our Term Loan.
On that note, I will add that we did not repurchase shares of our common stock back during Q2 and continue to have $50 million on our current authorization.
To add context to our Outlook.
We've shared today that we've accelerated execution of our Beehive Fit framework to drive improvement in our member base.
We expect these efforts combined with the reduction in Performance Marketing, spend the continued to impact year-over-year Revenue comparisons
Later this month, we will be launching our August product moment focused on trust and safety, which is designed to improve the quality of the member-based overall. But it is expected to drive further near-term attrition from lower intent members
In the beginning of this impact, in the remainder of Q3, then more fully in Q4.
Positive impact on the retention and our PPU from our higher intent. Users ultimately setting the stage for a positive inflection in members.
Our defined and focused member-based strategy is well underway and showing early promise.
We believe we can continue to execute with Pace against our strategy while maintaining a strong financial profile including solid adjusted Eva margins and cash generation.
By driving and improved member experience. Today, we're advancing toward a bumble with stronger retention richer, monetization, and a sustainable long-term growth trajectory
We appreciate your ongoing support, and we will now turn to Q&A.
Thank you.
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Our first question, goes to the line of ishua. Could you Ria with Wolfe research?
Here, mine is open.
Hi, this is Andrew offer. Schwada. Thanks for taking the question. Um, I want to follow up on the alternative payments, comment, I guess. Could you please provide updates on? Kind of where you are? In terms of the alternative payment options? You know what apps specifically are? You testing? And I guess what, kind of range you discounts? Are you offering? Um, and then what you're seeing for the adoption rates, facts.
Yeah. So
what we're doing on, we've done some testing and it's been very, you know, it's been very limited at this point in time and we're looking at
A different discount rates. Um, and you know, 1 of the things that we had seen is uh, very early on, in this, in this testing is that we tested a, a reasonable group of, uh, of opportunity and of people in that Apple iOS system.
and giving them a a discount and we found that the take up on Direct billing was actually 30%, which is
Very, very solid. Uh, we are continuing to do testing on that.
Um, a different discount rates and, you know, we've included a little bit of that in our, in our guidance, for the rest of this year or for the rest of Q3. But we are looking at, you know, if if we
There is an opportunity for upside in our numbers if we continue to do that through the whole rest of the year.
Thank you. Our next question, goes to Andrew Moro with Raymond James, Andrew. Your line is open.
Hi. Thanks for taking my questions, wanted to touch on our people growth at at Bumble app really quickly. So um, was the growth there solely, respond, solely driven by that, um, promotional strategy that exit that you had mentioned, or was there anything going on with maybe the, underlying, our people who growth, uh, that's worth calling out. And then I have a follow up after thanks.
Rpu growth. I mean, I think it it was a result of some deliberate changes that we, we had made in, in the monetization and some pricing optimization, um, you know, it it's, it's an early signal of some of the impact of the changes that we're making, as we focus on, you know, providing fewer, better deeper relationships. I guess I would remind you that. It's, it's really just an output. It's really not a number that we're managing to at this point in time.
Appreciate it. Thank you. And then maybe on the user front, uh what what? What he talked about, the 3 buckets of users, the approved improve and remove uh you mentioned that improve was the largest, but can you give any guard rails or quantitative Sense on the relative size of the buckets? And how many of those improved users actually want to improve? Thank you.
Yeah, thanks so much for the question so improve does make up a vast majority of the member base and perhaps reassuring to hear remove actually accounts for under 10% of the member base. So here's the thesis. What we're really excited about is that we see real data and real green shoots with approved members. They have higher yes, votes they Place higher. Yes, votes better retention, they get more matches. They have a double willingness to pay.
So if you take this strategy, which I said in the prepared remarks, which is to essentially move as many of those improved up,
imagine the output and the results that this has on the overall ecosystem and member-based,
And so this is exactly what we're focused on.
Our product roadmap and our recommendation engine are very focused on making sure that approved users see the proof and that we are providing tools through coaching, through AI, and through other product functionalities to move that improved base up. Because when you do that, every single board will be left with a much higher quality member base, and this is exactly the strategy of quality over quantity.
Thank you. Our next question goes to the line of Nathan Feder, with Morgan Stanley. Nathan, your line is open.
Hey, hey everyone. Thanks for taking the question. Um, you know, as you work through the turnaround, be able to know what metrics you’re tracking internally as you make this push for quality and for investors looking in from the outside. What do you think is the best way to track your progress, given the noise and some of the reported KPIs?
uh, appreciate
Quality. First, I have been extremely obsessed, and the team has been extremely obsessed with tracking deeper signals, deeper member inputs. What are the inputs across the board that get our members to
if you think about why people are here,
come to the product to find real high quality interactions, that lead to real quality dates. So, every single thing that we are watching is all in the effort of getting our members to high quality compatible relevant, matches as quickly, efficiently safely and effectively as possible.
And so while we're not willing to share those deeper metrics or those deeper signals with with the street right now. Uh, rest assured. That the team is very focused on this. And we will keep everybody posted as we expand our metrics in the future.
Great, that's helpful. And then um on the uh reinvestments, you're making just any way to think about the timing of those reinvestments and especially given some of the people costs and and AI tail and Associated. Um, if those might be, you know, ruled in over a longer time frame,
Yeah, thanks. Uh, that's also a great question. So we're being extremely precise and certain
We are not.
just,
Spend again. Um as as I said in the prepared remarks, every single dollar that is being spent at this company is being rigorously evaluated through the lens of. Is it a must-have for the quality strategy is this helping get our members closer to offline durable love? And is this going to make us the leader in the space?
As rapidly effectively and safely as possible. So as we evaluate that
Thank you. Our next question, goes to Ryan of Eric Sheridan, with Goldman Sachs.
Eric, your line is open.
Thanks so much for taking the question, we we we will be following up on that last question and just sticking with this theme of sort of marrying priorities with Investments. When you look out over the next 12 to 18 months, what do you see as your biggest priorities to move the needle for the platform. And that should be think about the deaths and duration of Investments lining up against some of those key priorities. Just to put a finer Point than some of the messaging, some of the prepared remarks. Thanks,
Uh, thank you. I appreciate the question. So the main priorities are product and Technologies hands down. As we said in the prepared remarks, we are actively rebuilding a bumble 2.0 if you will, this is AI first Cloud native extremely sophisticated Tech infrastructure. This is really meant to enable Innovation at
Speed at scale and very personalized.
Continuously make these micro enhancements that really count on the current technology. So for example, over the last quarter, we enhanced our recommendation system and we continue to leverage deep learning, enriched profile, signals and implicit signals from these in-app actions and those improvements alone on our Legacy system. Actually drove
A greater than 10% increase in women's. Yes, votes. So we are able to continue our metrics Upstream while we focus on these longer term swings that will require time focused and reinvestment. So the priorities are really essentially very simple deliver quality experience that is both product, but Tech recommendations matching. Our priorities is always trust and safety. This is what particularly women but everyone wants. People want to feel safe. They want to know that who they're meeting and who they say they are meeting. They want to feel a trust and safety backbone when they're using these products to find friends. Another big priority is Bumble for friends
I cannot tell you how excited and how convicted we are in the future. The organic demand for Bumble from for friends, particularly from gen Z women and younger Millennial. Women is extremely exciting and so we are really putting a lot of time energy and focus in this. Modern technology to support friend finding a community. And I think you'll notice that I didn't mention marketing.
And I think this is important because our product is going to speak for itself.
And the marketing that we do from both an investment standpoint, but also from a team resourcing, standpoint is there to amplify a great product, there to amplify very Innovative, safe quality technology. And so, you will see us spread the most important message that we have to offer, which is the amazing success stories. We put into the world. So those are really the high level priorities over the next 12 to 18 months.
Thank you. Our next question will go to the line of eagle aronian with City Eagle. Your line is open.
Hey, uh, thanks, good afternoon. So maybe just first.
Um, Winnie on, on, on the Bumble users and the 10 percents or less than 10% in that, in that remove category, talked about, uh, you know, some of the improved users that don't want to improve potentially getting down to that remove bucket, um, some of the trust and safety features that that can cause some, you know, dislocation. You've also, you know, uh, less focused on, um, some of the, the lower value users. And so you've kind of, like, naturally aiming to Pare, Pare down the user base before you build it up. So, just trying to understand what, what that level might be to the extent that you could help on, you know, where we kind of bottom out. And then as as you begin to try to build up, you're you're going to be targeting a, a smaller base right to not track some of these users, that you're electing not to bring back. And so how you, how you do that? And how you start to build back up and kind of get back to your user base, that's higher than your previous being.
A slightly different than what meets the eye, you would be surprised by how many phenomenal members we have.
That technically classify as lower improved. So not bad people, they're not nefarious members. They have no clue how to build a profile. These could be extraordinary people that when you meet them in real life, you're like, how are you single? But when you look at their Bumble profiles, they have 1 Photo. They're wearing a ski mask, and they have no bio, there's no chance for them on our product in that construct. So this is really not about us needing to remove, just the whole member base because everyone is a bad member. Absolutely not frankly, the quality of our members are really good, but the quality of their profiles are not so good sometimes. And so, this is really an effort to really improve the quality of how they show up, how they put themselves out there and how they express themselves, so that they can move up that ranking. Now, there is a subset of members that does fall into that.
Was very, very disappointed, but if you were to go through even just 5 or 10 or 15 profiles of of very high quality profiles, and everyone was actually quite interesting to you, you would feel very very compelled to return. So this is actually not so much of having to kick everyone out. It's really about just removing that less than 10% of folks that shouldn't be here their box, their scammers, their duplicate accounts. They have no intention of Behaving well and then finding those folks that are lingering around the improved category that maybe have no willingness, let's bring them down but then everybody is up or out. I mean it's amazing to see what happens when you just help people out a little bit. They really do have a much better experience and then they have positive impact on the member base. So high level. I just don't want anybody to walk out of here thinking, this is a 1-time.
Strategy, this is always on.
We get new members every day and we will have to consistently sort, our profiles improve our profiles, and this isn't always on approach, but we are very confident that as this strategy continues to be executed against with speed with Focus, that we are going to have an extremely high quality member base that will create all of the outputs.
That matter for a great business.
Thank you and maybe just a follow up on the Investments.
Um, on on the Investments that you're paying they including marketing and um you it doesn't sound like you're targeting a specific, uh margin Target. Um but as we think about our models and this marketing comes back in and you start to to roll out some of these Investments and any way to help frame the right way for us to think about um, how margins might flow
Through next year and beyond that, how do you think about that? Thanks.
so, maybe I can answer some of that and uh,
you know, I think
Well, I'm not going to go out into next year because we're not giving guidance that far. But, but I, I think I can give you some color towards the rest, the balance of this year. And, and looking essentially down the the income statement starting at the revenue side. Um, you know, we expect that the trust and safety, which we've talked about in in our script today. Uh, we'll have an impact, obviously, in in Q3 and we'll have a greater impact in Q4 and, and that concludes everything from, you know, mandatory phone numbers. And, and
Selfie identification, those kind of things. So that will have a, you know, it'll have a a near-term attrition to our our payers, um, from a gross margin point of view, we talked about the alternative billing, the impact of the reduced, um, App Store fees from there and so that will be, could be a potential upside, um, from a gross margin point of view. But that could also be a little bit of a
Impact negative impact on the revenue because obviously less Revenue, but at the end of the day, we'll end up having greater margin in dollars.
Um, when we look at the marketing, we've talked to Whitney talked a lot about this already, but we're going to have
We will have very minimal Performance Marketing in the second half of this year, but we did say is that we will have more marketing brand marketing, more organic marketing, that will occur in the, in the second half of the year. Then we occurred in the, you know, if you think about the second second 2 quarter,
Levels. It'll be at a higher level than that.
um, again, it's going to be very focused uh,
Organic.
For a product and Engineering side. Again, the headcount we're going to continue to we're going to we we've just done this large Workforce, uh reduction. But now what we're going to do is we we do have to build up our presence in the United States and and that will happen primarily in the engineering area in all other areas it's going to be very very limited uh increase in our in our head count.
Uh, and that's really, that's really the, the key things for the balance is, yeah, the only thing I'd like to layer on to what Ron said is when it comes to marketing. Again, I want to be extremely clear. We're not going to market for marketing sake. We are only going to be doing marketing that amplifies the strength of the quality and the power of our product. And we are only going to be reinvesting into the Halo of our brand. I cannot
Thank you. Our last question will go to the line of John black. Lidge, with TD Cowen, John, your line is open.
Hi there. It's Logan on for John, thank you for the question. Um, as you release new features in in the August launch and looking forward, could you talk about how your, how you are appealing to gen Z users, uh, who maybe have grown weary of other traditional online dating experience. Um,
And then following up uh, on the CFO appointment. Could you just talk about the qualities uh that led to Kevin Ty? Thanks.
Uh, thanks for the question, and good to hear from you. So let's talk about Gen Z. I think there's a bit of a misconception that Gen Z is some completely different species that doesn't think about love and connection the same way most of humanity does.
The reality is this.
Gen Z entered the dating Market, rather than the online dating Market at a time where most of these products were already very saturated.
So a lot of the exact product solves that we are so manik focused on right now. Are specifically the issues gen Z has with online dating. For example, they don't want to feel like they swipe endlessly through people, they're not interested in, they don't want to feel judged, they don't want to feel rejected.
If you don't want to feel like they're talking to someone that is not actually who they say they are, these are the same issues that everyone has struggled with with online love. And this is precisely what has driven the strategy back to Quality? First, when I came back in a CEO, I showed up with a list.
10 of the top customer pain points that I had researched extensively.
And I basically came back and said until we fix all of these problems. We're not going to just roll out random features. Feature fatigue is not solving the problem for anyone. This is about solving the real needs of dating and connection and that is precisely what we're doing. That's what you'll see in the August launch. It's all about trust and safety. It's all about efficiency. It's all about feeling relevant and compatible again. It's all about helping people enjoy dating again and build confidence back up, because that's what made this category special to begin with. And so, this is really how we went win back empty. Now I'd like to touch on something else because it's very important.
Gen Z has shown us through the trends in the data that we are tracking on BFF.
That they are actively seeking offline connection friendships and groups. They want to be a part of community and this is 1 of the brightest spots in our entire group to go and lean into this with Bumble for friends and the great news is we are already there we are a leading friendship app in the space. And frankly, we're the only 1 in the dating space that has a friend finding feature at scale. So this gives us a real competitive event and we're really excited about that.
Oh and now to the CFO, yes so Kevin Cook um what? What an exciting higher listen? He he checked every box, we wanted someone that understood technology first
We wanted someone that was a product thinker. We wanted a finance leader that understood the demand that members have from a product and to really lead for the customers to lead for the members first because that's how you drive a great business.
And that's the strategy that we are operating against right now. He comes with deep expertise.
Deep experience. Deep understanding of many technical components, he's going to be a great partner to us as we navigate this next era of AI. And as we navigate, uh, ah, ah, ah, return to growth. And we're very, very excited to have him and we're deeply appreciative to Ron, who has been extraordinary.
Thank you. And with that being our last question, we will now conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation and enjoy the rest of your day.