Q2 2025 Core Natural Resources Inc Earnings Call

Deck Slone: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Core Natural Resources, Inc. second quarter earnings call. At this time, online is in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press the star zero for the operator. This call is being recorded on Tuesday, August 5, 2025. I would now like to turn the conference over to Deck Slone, Senior Vice President, Strategy. Please go ahead.

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the core natural resources Inc. Second quarter earnings call at this time, all lines are in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. If at any time during this, call, you require immediate assistance, please press star zero for the operator.

This call is being recorded on Tuesday, August 5th, 2025.

Bob Braithwaite: Good morning from Canonsburg, Pennsylvania, everyone, and thanks for joining us today. Before we begin, let me remind you that certain statements made during this call, including statements relating to our expected future business and financial performance, may be considered forward-looking statements according to the Private Security Litigation Reform Act. Forward-looking statements, by their nature, address matters that are, to different degrees, uncertain. These uncertainties, which are described in more detail in the annual and quarterly reports that we file with the SEC, may cause our actual future results to be materially different than those expressed in our forward-looking statements. We do not undertake to update our forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise, except as may be required by law.

I would now like to turn the conference over to Dex loan senior vice president strategy. Please go ahead.

Good morning, from Canonsburg Pennsylvania, everyone and thanks for joining us today. Before we begin. Let me remind you that certain statements made during this call including statements relating to our expected, future business, and financial performance. May be considered forward-looking statements according to the private Securities, litigation Reform Act.

Your nature address matters that are to different degrees uncertain.

Bob Braithwaite: I'd also like to remind you that you can find a reconciliation of the non-GAAP financial measures that we plan to discuss this morning at the end of our press release, a copy of which we have posted in the investor section of our website at corenaturalresources.com. Also, participating on this morning's call will be Paul Lang, our CEO, Mitesh Tukar, our President and CFO, and Bob Braithwaite, our Senior Vice President of Marketing and Sales. After some formal remarks from Paul and Mitesh, we'll be happy to take questions. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Paul. Paul?

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I'd also like to remind you that you can find a Reconciliation of the non-gaap financial measures that we plan to discuss this morning, at the end of our press release, a copy of, which we have posted in the investor section of our website at core natural resources.com.

Also participating on this morning's call will be Paul Lang. Our CEO, PESA car, our president and CFO and Bob WWE our senior vice president of marketing and sales.

Paul Lang: Thanks, Dick, and good morning, everyone. We're glad you could join us on the call today. I'm pleased to report that, in the quarter just ended, Core again demonstrated its significant cash-generating capabilities, even while navigating a softened market environment, as well as the current outage at our Lear South mine. During Q2, the team generated adjusted EBITDA of $144 million and free cash flow of $131 million. Increased our merger-related annual synergy target to a range of $150 to $170 million, which is roughly 30% higher at the midpoint than the original guidance. Returned $87 million to investors through share buybacks and a quarterly dividend. Increased cash and cash equivalents by $25 million and overall liquidity by $90 million. And finally, advanced our plan for resuming long-haul production at Lear South during Q4.

After some formal remarks from Poland mesh, we will be happy to take questions with that. I'll now turn the call over to Paul Paul.

Thanks dick and good morning everyone. We're glad you could join us on the call today, I'm pleased to report that in the quarter just ended core again. Demonstrated its significant cash generating capabilities, even while navigating a software Market environment, as well as the current outage at our Lear South mine during Q2, the team generated, adjusted even de of 144 million and free cash flow of 131 million.

Increased our merger related, annual Synergy. Target to a range of 150 to 170 million dollars which is roughly 30% higher at the midpoint than the original guidance.

Return to 87 million, to investors through share BuyBacks and a quarterly dividend.

Paul Lang: On the operations front, the high CV thermal segment again set the pace, achieving a significant step up in sales volumes while lowering unit costs markedly. Exclusive of the outage at Lear South, the metallurgical platform also executed well, led by the segment's flagship Lear mine, which achieved a second straight quarterly production record. Finally, the Powder River Basin segment delivered another strong performance as power generators sought to accelerate shipments in advance of the summer season. We remain focused on pursuing operational excellence across the entire operating portfolio and expect ongoing synergy capture to lift our performance further as the year progresses. Now, let's shift our attention to the Capital Return Program.

Increased cash and cash equivalents by 25 million and overall liquidity by 90 million. And finally, Advanced our plan for resuming long wall production at Lear South during Q4.

On the operations front, the high CV thermal segment again set the pace, achieving a significant step up in sales volumes while lowering unit costs in the marketplace.

Exclusive of the outage at Lear South. The metallurgical platform also executed well, led by the segments Flagship Lear mine, which achieved a second straight quarterly production record,

finally, the Powder River Basin, segment delivered, another strong performance as power generators sought to accelerate shipments in advance of the summer season.

We remain focused on pursuing operational excellence across the entire operating portfolio and expect ongoing Synergy captured to lift our performance further as the year progresses.

Paul Lang: As you will recall, we announced a new Capital Return Framework in February, shortly after the merger's completion, which was designed to reward shareholders for their ongoing support and which we consider a central tenet of Core's long-term value proposition. The centerpiece of this framework is the targeted return to shareholders of around 75% of free cash flow through share repurchases and a sustaining quarterly dividend of 10 cents per share. We kicked off that program in a strong fashion in Q1 with a return to shareholders of $107 million and maintained our momentum in Q2 with a return of an additional $87 million. In total, we've now returned $194 million to shareholders in just the first two quarters as a combined company, despite generally weak market conditions during that period.

Now, let's shift our attention to the capital return program.

As you will recall, we announced a new capital return framework in February shortly after the merger's completion, which was designed to reward shareholders for their ongoing support, and which we consider a central tenet, of course, of our long-term value proposition.

The centerpiece of this framework is the targeted return to shareholders of around, 75% of free cash flow through share repurchases in a sustaining quarterly dividend of 10 cents per share.

We kicked off that program, in a strong fashion in q1 with the return, to shareholders of 107 million and maintained our momentum in Q2 with the return of an additional 87 million.

Paul Lang: As a central component of this effort, we've repurchased 2.6 million shares, or 5% of the total shares outstanding as of the program's launch. Supplementing that buyback effort, we've now returned approximately $11 million to stockholders via a small sustaining quarterly dividend. In short, we're putting our excess cash to work opportunistically in today's depressed equity market environment. And let me stress, we expect the share repurchases to be highly value-creating at current valuations. Indeed, that is another key strength of the combined platform: our ability to generate cash across a wide range of market cycles, given our diversified portfolio and strong mix of contract and market-exposed volumes. As previously indicated, the board has authorized a total of $1 billion in share repurchases in support of the Capital Return Framework. And as of the end of Q2, we have roughly $817 million remaining on that authorization.

In total we've now returned 194 billion dollars to shareholders in. Just the F first 2 quarters as a combined company, despite generally weak market conditions during that period,

As the central component of this effort. We've repurchased 2.6 million shares or 5% of the total shares outstanding as of the program's launch.

Supplementing, that buyback effort. We've now returned, approximately 11 million dollars to stockholders via small sustaining quarterly dividend.

In short, we're putting our excess cash to work opportunistically in today's depressed, Equity Market environment. And let me stress, we expect the share repurchases to be highly value creating at current valuations,

Indeed, that is another key strengths of the combined platform, our ability to generate cash across a wide range of Market Cycles, given our Diversified portfolio and strong mix of contract and Market exposed volumes.

Paul Lang: That authorization level, quite obviously, underscores the board's confidence in our near, mid, and long-term outlook. Turning now to the status of Lear South, as you know, in mid-January, the operations team sealed the active long-haul panel at that operation to extinguish an isolated combustion event occurring in the mined-out area behind the long haul. On June 10th, Core personnel and regulatory officials reentered the sealed area of the mine and conducted an evaluation of the equipment and infrastructure. As expected, the major components and systems appeared in good condition from our visual inspection, and we were able to repressurize the long-haul shields. Then, on June 26th, more than two weeks after reentering the impacted zone, the team found it necessary to seal a smaller affected area due to an increase in carbon monoxide levels.

As previously indicated, the board is authorized to execute a total of $1 billion in share repurchases in support of the capital return framework. As of the end of Q2, we have roughly $817 million remaining on that authorization.

that authorization level quite obviously underscores the board's confidence in our near Mid and long-term Outlook

Combustion event occurring in the mind out area behind the long wall.

On June 10th, Corps, personnel and Regulatory officials re-entered, the sealed area of the mine and conducted an evaluation of the equipment and infrastructure.

As expected, the major components of systems appeared in good condition from our visual inspection and we were able to repressurise the long wall Shields.

Paul Lang: Since that time, we've been collaborating with federal and state officials to develop a plan to recover the long-haul equipment and move it to a new area in the same panel that was unaffected by the incident. Given that the area where the fire was located is small and will be relatively easy to keep isolated, we remain confident in Lear South's ability to deliver on its strong potential over the long term. Now, I'd like to spend a few minutes on the global market dynamics, which continue to be highly variable. First, domestic thermal markets appear to be strengthening in the face of rising demand outlook and the advent of summer temperatures. Second, seaborne thermal demand has shown signs of recovery, particularly in Asia, where coal-fired power remains a critical part of the energy mix.

Then on June 26th, more than 2 weeks after re-entering the impact of Zone, the team found it necessary to seal a smaller affected area due to an increase in carbon monoxide levels.

Since that time, we've been collaborating with federal and state officials to develop a plan to recover, the long wall equipment and move it to a new area. The same panel that was unaffected by the incident. Given that the area where the fire was located is small and will be relatively easy to keep isolated. We remain confident. In Lear South's ability to deliver on a strong potential over the long term.

Now, I'd like to spend a few minutes on the global market dynamics which continue to be highly variable.

First domestic, thermal markets appear, to be strengthening in the face of rising demand Outlook and the Advent of summer temperatures.

Paul Lang: Conversely, global cooking coal markets remain soft, pressured by sluggish steel production in key regions such as Europe and China, and ongoing destocking by mills. Despite these headwinds, we believe we're well-positioned to navigate market troughs. Our low-cost, high-quality operations and flexible logistics enable us to shift between domestic and export markets as conditions evolve, preserving margins. Mitesh will discuss how we're seeking to optimize value and build our contract book in this market environment. But let me spend a few minutes on the broader market dynamics, as well as on the corrective forces we believe are already at work on several fronts. Starting with the metallurgical markets, tariff-related uncertainties continue to weigh on market demand.

Second seabourne thermal demand has shown signs of recovery, particularly in Asia, or coal fired power remains a critical part of the energy mix.

Conversely Global cocaine, coal markets, remain soft pressured by sluggish, steel production, and key regions, such as Europe, and China and ongoing destocking by Mills.

Despite these headwinds we believe we're well positioned to navigate Market troughs.

Our low-cost high-quality operations flexible Logistics, enable us to shift between domestic and Export markets as conditions evolve preserving margin.

Potential discuss how we're seeking to optimize.

Value and build our contract book in this market environment. But let me spend a few minutes on the broader market dynamics as well as on the corrective forces. We Believe are already at work on several fronts.

Paul Lang: However, several recent developments, including the recent trade agreements with Japan and the EU, as well as ongoing discussions with other major trading partners, suggest that such uncertainties could begin to abate in the not-too-distant future, even as potential secondary tariffs remain at risk. In addition, we believe that major cooking coal indices are at levels well below the marginal cost of production. Moreover, we continue to see signs that these pricing levels are beginning to take a toll on supply as high-cost production has started to exit the market. As evidence of that fact, cooking coal exports from the three primary high-quality supply regions, Australia, the United States, and Canada, are down 7% in aggregate through May, with more cuts likely.

Starting with the metallurgical markets, tariff related uncertainties, continue to weigh on market, demand.

However, several recent developments, including the recent trade agreements with Japan and the EU, as well as ongoing discussions with other major trading partners suggests that such uncertainties could begin to Abate in the not too distant future even as potential. Secondary tariffs remain at risk.

In addition, we believe that major cooking coal indices are at levels. Well, below the marginal cost of production.

Moreover, we continue to see signs that these pricing levels are beginning to take a toll on supply. As high-cost production has started to exit the market,

Paul Lang: In addition, we expect demand for metallurgical coal to continue its steady upward climb over time as the young economies in Southeast Asia, particularly India, continue to add new blast furnace capacity in support of their ongoing infrastructure buildout. In the thermal arena, domestic power markets are experiencing a second straight year of demand growth after several decades of sideways movement. Underscoring this tightness, the PJM Capacity Market Auction conducted just two weeks ago cleared at a record price for the second straight year. We expect this power demand growth to continue in the quarters ahead, buoyed by increasing energy requirements of AI and data centers.

As evidence of that fact cooking, coal exports from the 3 primary high-quality Supply regions Australia, the United States and Canada are down 7% in aggregate through May with more Cuts likely.

In addition, we expect demand for metallurgical coal to continue, its steady upward climb over time as the young economies in Southeast Asia, particularly India. Continue to add new Blast Furnace capacity in support of their ongoing infrastructure buildout.

In the thermal Arena. Domestic power of markets are experienced as second straight year, a demand growth after several decades of sideways movement.

Underscoring this tightness the pjm capacity Market auction conducted just 2 weeks ago. Cleared at a record price for the second straight year.

Paul Lang: As for the high CV seaborne thermal markets, both API2 and Newcastle prices have rebounded from their lows, and we continue to believe that certain strategic elements of that market, such as the Indian cement demand, are poised for further recovery, particularly in the post-monsoon season. Specifically, we expect cement demand in India to continue to grow at robust rates throughout the balance of the decade and beyond, and believe Core with our energy-dense high CV thermal products should be a prime beneficiary. Let me take a moment to express our appreciation to the President and the US Congress for the steps they've taken in recent months to protect and support the US coal industry. In April, the President issued a series of executive orders aimed at reducing the regulatory burden on America's coal-fired power plants and preserving the US coal-generating fleet.

We expect this power demand growth to continue in the quarters ahead, driven by increasing energy requirements of AI and data centers.

As for the high cve Seaborn thermal markets, both API 2 and Newcastle prices have rebounded from their lows. And we continue to believe that certain strategic elements of that market such as the Indian cement. Demand are poised for further recovery particularly in the post monsoon season.

Specifically, we expect cement demand in India to continue to grow at robust rates, throughout the balance of the decade and Beyond and believe core with our in with our energy dense, High CV thermal products, like should be a prime beneficiary.

Let me take a moment to express our appreciation to the president and the US Congress for the steps. They've taken in recent months to protect and support the US coal industry,

Paul Lang: During the White House ceremony, the President's recognition and inclusion of many of our hourly employees was a poignant example of the past and future contribution of coal miners in meeting the country's energy and industrial needs, a recognition that's been ignored in recent years. In addition to the executive orders, on July 4th, the President signed into law the One Big Beautiful Bill, which included several provisions designed to strengthen the US coal industry and enhance the competitiveness of our products overseas. Of note, the new legislation designates US-produced metallurgical coal as a critical material under Section 45(x), through which the company will be eligible for a 2.5% monetizable tax credit on production-related costs over the next four years.

And preserving the US coal generating Fleet.

during the White House ceremony the president's recognition and inclusion of many of our hourly employees was a poignant example of the past and future contribution of coal miners in the meeting the country's energy and Industrial needs our recognition that's been ignored in recent years

in addition to the executive orders on July 4th, the president signed into law, the 1 big beautiful bill, which included several Provisions designed to strengthen the US coal industry and enhance the competitiveness of our products overseas

Paul Lang: Significantly, the new legislation also lowers the royalty rate on tons produced on federal lands, which in turn will reduce the cash costs and enhance the competitiveness of our Powder River Basin and West Elk operations in future periods. Again, we applaud the President and Congress for their leadership and foresight in taking these historic steps, steps that will help ensure that US coal remains a key element of America's future energy supply, as well as a stabilizing force in both domestic and global energy markets. Let me close by again recognizing the Core team for tremendous progress it has made in integrating the combined operating, marketing, and logistics portfolio into a cohesive, high-performing unit, while at the same time unlocking the synergistic value created by the merger.

Of note, the new legislation designates us produced metallurgical coal, as a critical material, under Section 45x through, which the company will be eligible for a 2 and 1/2% monetizable tax credit on production related costs over the next 4 years.

Significantly. The new legislation also lower lowers the royalty rate on tons, produced on federal lands which in turn will reduce the cash costs and enhance. The competitiveness of our Powder River Basin and West Health operations in future periods.

Again, we applaud the president and Congress for their leadership and foresight in taking these historic steps steps that will help ensure that us coal remains a key element of America's future energy Supply, as well as a stabilizing force in both domestic and Global energy markets.

Paul Lang: With our world-class mines, logistical network, strong balance sheet, significant cash-generating capabilities, and talented workforce, we believe we're equipped to create shareholder value in a wide range of market environments. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Mitesh for greater detail on our Q2 financial results, as well as our outlook for the balance of the year. Mitesh?

Let me close by again recognizing the core team for the tremendous progress made in integrating the combined operating marketing and logistics portfolio into a cohesive, high-performing unit, while at the same time unlocking the synergistic value created by the merger with our world-class Minds logistical network, strong balance sheet, significant cash-generating capabilities, and talented workforce. We believe we're equipped to create shareholder value in a wide range of market environments.

Mitesh Thakkar: Thank you, Paul, and good morning, everyone. First, let me review our second quarter financial results and then provide an update on the outlook and synergy fronts. This morning, we reported a net loss of $37 million or 70 cents per dilutive share and adjusted EBITDA of $144 million for Q2 '25. We spent $89 million on capital expenditures and generated $131 million of free cash flow. Additionally, during Q2 '25, we spent $21 million related to Lear South combustion-related and idling costs, which is included in our reported adjusted EBITDA. As Paul indicated, during the quarter, we repurchased 1.2 million shares for approximately $82 million at a weighted average price of $69.64 and paid dividends totaling approximately $5 million. In addition, we announced this morning that the Board of Directors has declared 10 cents per share dividend payable on September 15th to stockholders of record on August 29th.

With that, I'll now turn the call over to Bates for greater detail in our Q2 financial results, as well as our outlook for the balance of the year.

Thank you, Paul and good morning everyone. First, let me review our second quarter Financial results and then provide an update on the Outlook and Synergy fronts.

This morning, we reported a net loss of $37 million, or $0.70 per dilutive share, and adjusted EBITDA of $144 million for Q2 2025.

We spent 89 million on Capital expenditures and generated 131 million of free cash flow.

Additionally, during q25, we spent 21 million related to Leo South combustion related and idling cost which is included in our reported adjusted aita

As Paul indicated during the quarter. We repurchased 1.2 million shares for approximately 82 million at a weighted. Average, price of $69.64 and paid dividends totaling approximately 5 million.

Mitesh Thakkar: We have now repurchased 2.6 million shares, or 5% of our total shares outstanding since the launch of our Capital Return Program in February. When coupled with dividends, we have returned $194 million to shareholders in aggregate during the first half of 2025. Year to date, we have returned over 100% of free cash flow to shareholders via share buybacks and dividends, demonstrating our ability and willingness to return capital and repurchase shares in a countercyclical manner while maintaining strong liquidity and a leverage-neutral balance sheet. At the end of the second quarter, we had total liquidity of $948 million, an increase of $90 million compared to the end of the first quarter, driven by an increase in our cash balance and higher availability on our revolver and securitization facilities. In July, we combined the two legacy AR securitization facilities, further firming up our liquidity position.

In addition, we announced this morning that the board of directors has declared 10 cents, per share, dividend payable on September 15th, to stockholders of record on August 29th.

we have now repurchased, 2.6 million shares or 5% of our total shares outstanding, since the launch of our Capital return program in February,

When coupled with dividends, we have returned 194 million to shareholders in aggregate during the first half of 2025.

Year to date. We have returned over 100% of free cash, flow to shareholders via shared values, and dividends demonstrating our ability and willingness to return capital and repurchase shares in a counter cyclical manner while maintaining strong liquidity and a leverage neutral balance sheet. At the end of the second quarter. We are total liquidity of 948 million and increase of 90 million compared to the end of the first quarter.

Driven by an increase in our cash balance and higher availability on our revolver and securitization facilities.

Mitesh Thakkar: The combined facility has a borrowing base of up to $250 million and an extended maturity to 2028. Consolidating these facilities marks the final step for us in constructing the desired post-merger capital structure, which also includes an upsized revolving credit facility of $600 million and multi-state tax-exempt bond financings totaling $307 million. In aggregate, we have now completed approximately $1.2 billion in advantageous financing transactions in a depressed commodity environment and an uncertain macroeconomic backdrop. Let me now provide a quick update on the marketing progress we made during the second quarter and outline how we are positioning the business for future success. The second quarter presented a mixed market environment. Export markets, particularly in the metallurgical segment, remain challenged due to ongoing headwinds affecting global trade. These pressures continue to weigh on customer demand and contributed to a subdued spot and term export market.

In July, we combined the 2 Legacy are securitization facilities further forming up. Our liquidity position, the combined facility has a borrowing base of up, to 250 million and an extended maturity to 2028

Consolidating these facilities marks the final step for us. In constructing, the desired post merger capital structure which also includes an upsized revolving. Credit facility of 600 million and multi-state takes tax exempt, Bond financing, totaling 307 million.

And an uncertain macroeconomic backdrop.

Let me now provide a quick update on the marketing progress we made during the second quarter and outline how we are positioning the business for future success.

The second quarter presented a mixed market environment.

Mitesh Thakkar: In contrast, domestic market conditions continue to strengthen with a notable increase in utility-driven demand and customers seeking thermal coal in both spot and term contracts. In response, we capitalized on the domestic strength during the quarter and increased our 2025 contracted positions for high CV thermal coal to 30 million tons, cooking coal to 7.5 million tons, and PRB coal to 47.8 million tons. This places us near fully contracted for the remainder of 2025. Furthermore, we have continued to build momentum into 2026 by layering in additional committed tonnage for the high CV thermal and PRB segments. Encouragingly, in the thermal coal space, we are starting to see term business conclude above the current published markers, reflecting rising power generation demand and significant contango in natural gas markets.

Export markets, particularly in the methodological segments, remain challenged due to ongoing headwinds affecting global trade. These pressures continue to weigh on customer demand and contributed to a subdued spot and term export Market.

In contrast domestic market conditions, continue to strengthen with a notable increase in utility driven demand and customers, seeking thermocol in both spot and term contracts.

In response, we capitalized on the domestic strength during the quarter.

An increase our 2025 contracted positions for high CV thermal coal to 30 million tons, cooking cold to 7.5 million tons and prb call to 47.8 million tons.

This places Us near fully contracted for the remainder of 2025.

Furthermore, we have continued to build momentum into 2026 by layering in additional committed tonnage for the high CV thermal and prb segments.

Mitesh Thakkar: We now have approximately 13 million tons in the high CV thermal segment and 33 million tons in the PRB segment committed in 2026. Now, let me provide a quick update on our outlook for 2025. On the metallurgical front, we are maintaining sales volume guidance and slightly increasing our cash cost guidance due to the delayed restart of the long haul at Lear South and reduced production at the Itmin mine. At Itmin, we issued a warn notice in June and are now planning to operate only one section. While this was a difficult decision, we found it necessary to reduce ongoing cash loss while protecting the long-term economic potential of the operation. We continue to evaluate all operations on an ongoing basis guided by market dynamics. This market-driven approach will also inform our strategy as we participate in the domestic metallurgical RFP cycle.

Encouragingly in the thermal coal space, you are starting to see term business conclude above the current published markers reflecting Rising power, generation, demand and significant contango in natural gas markets.

We now have approximately 13 million tons in the high CV thermal segment and 33 million tons in the prv segment committed in 2026.

Now, let me provide a quick update on our outlook for 2025.

On the metal logical front. We are maintaining sales, volume guidance and slightly increasing our cash cost guidance to the delayed restart of the long wall at Clear South and reduced production at the man. Mine

at man, we issued a 1 notice in June and are now planning to operate, only 1 Section

While this was a difficult decision, we found it necessary to reduce ongoing cash loss while protecting the long-term economic potential of the operation.

We continue to evaluate all operations on an ongoing basis, guided by market dynamics.

Mitesh Thakkar: We remain prepared to further reduce production where the market does not support value accretive outcomes. As in the past, our guidance for cooking coal sales will continue to be driven by our operational capabilities and constantly evolving market realities. For the high CV thermal segment, we are lowering our projected pricing range on committed tons by $1 to a range of $60 to $62 per ton. This adjustment is primarily the result of contracting the previously uncommitted volumes at current spot prices, partially offset by higher power prices. We are maintaining our guidance for both sales volume and cash costs in this segment.

This market-driven approach will also inform our strategy as we participate in the domestic methodological RFP cycle.

We remain prepared to further reduce production where the market does not support value or creative outcomes.

As in the past, our guidance for cooking call sales will continue to be driven by our operational capabilities and constantly evolving market realities.

For the high CV thermal segment. We are lowering our projected pricing range on committed, tons by $1 to arrange of 60 to 62 dollars per ton.

Mitesh Thakkar: For the PRB segment, we are increasing our sales volume guidance to a range of 45 to 48 million tons and our committed and priced position has increased by approximately 6 million tons to 47.8 million tons at a realized coal revenue of approximately $14.40 per ton. We are also lowering our cash cost guidance by approximately $1 a ton to $12.75 to $13.25. These updates reflect the impact of recently enacted legislation that Paul discussed in his prepared remarks and an improved sales volume outlook benefiting the fixed cost per ton produced. Let me now provide our thoughts on the current market landscape. In the high CV thermal segment, macro uncertainties continue to weigh on the export market, while we have seen an increase in base demand in the domestic power generation markets.

This adjustment is primarily the result of Contracting. The previously uncommitted volumes at current spot prices, partially offset by higher power prices. We are maintaining our guidance for both sales, volume and cash costs. In the segment, for the prb segment, we are increasing our sales volume guidance to a range of 45 to 48 million, tons and are committed and priced position has increased by approximately 6 million tons to 47.8 million tons at a realized cold revenue of approximately 14.40 cents per ton.

We are also lowering our cash cost guidance by approximately $1 per ton, to $12.75 to $13.25.

these updates, reflect the impact of recently, enacted legislation that Paul discussed in his prepared remarks and an improved sales volume Outlook benefiting the fixed cost per ton produced

Let me now provide our thoughts on the current market landscape.

Mitesh Thakkar: As noted earlier, on July 22nd, the PJM Capacity Auction concluded with capacity prices increasing to $329 per megawatt day for the 2026-2027 delivery period, a second straight record high. This compares to last year's auction, bringing prices of $270 per megawatt day. This, along with the support from the Trump administration, represents an incentive for power plant operators to invest in existing generation. As we have discussed in the past, capacity utilization for the US coal fleet was approximately 43% in 2024. Historically, the US coal fleet ran at capacity factors as high as around 70%, which provides a lot of room for coal demand growth domestically. PJM recently acknowledged that in 2026, the data center boom will drive power demand to all-time highs.

In the high CV thermal segment macro and certainties continue to weigh on the export Market. While we have seen an increase in base demand in the domestic power generation markets.

As noted earlier.

On July 22nd. The pjm capacity auction concluded with capacity prices increasing to 329 per megawatt day for the 2026 2027 delivery period.

A second straight record high.

This compares to last year's auction, bringing price of 20070 per megawatt day.

This along with the support from the Trump Administration represents an incentive for power plant operators to invest in existing generation.

As we have discussed in the past capacity, utilization for the Us corporate was approximately 43% in 2024.

Historically, the U.S. coal fleet ran at capacity factors as high as around 70%.

Which provides a lot of room for coal. Demand growth domestically.

Mitesh Thakkar: It also indicated that summer peak power consumption may climb by 70 gigawatts over the next 15 years, or over 30% higher than the all-time high reached in 2006. This will also tighten reserve margins. We believe some version of this is playing out in several RTOs, which highlights the need to keep existing coal plants running. For the PRB segment, delayed plant retirements continue to drive an enhanced outlook. There are multiple examples of utilities revising their IRPs as they extend the operational life of existing units to meet capacity needs. Tight capacity conditions in MISO and SPP are likely to support increased demand for PRB coal in 2026 and 2027 as well. Let me now provide an update on the progress we have made on the synergy front.

Pjm recently, acknowledged that in 2026 the data center, boom will drive power demand to all-time highs.

It also indicated that summer Peak power consumption May Climb by 70 gigawatts over the next 15 years or over 30% higher than the all-time high reached in 2006.

This will also tighten Reserve margins. We believe some version of this is playing out in several rtos which highlights the need to keep existing coal plants running.

For the PRB segment, delayed plant retirements continue to drive and enhance the outlook.

There are multiple examples of utilities revising their PS, as they extend operational. Life of existing units to meet capacity needs

Tight capacity conditions in myso and spp are likely to support increased demand for prb code in 2026 and 2027 as well.

Mitesh Thakkar: As a reminder, at the merger announcement, we guided to an average annual run rate of $110 to $140 million of synergies within 18 months following close. Then, during our 1Q25 earnings call, we updated the range to $125 to $150 million. We are pleased to report that we are again increasing our projected annualized synergies range to approximately $150 to $170 million. The key drivers of this increase are the additional benefits we identified in the areas of admin costs, purchasing, and best practices sharing. Admin costs, such as lower insurance premiums and benefits costs, are now well delineated and account for the majority of the increase. Best practice sharing and headcount optimization are expected to make up the difference.

Let me now provide an update on the progress. We have made on the Synergy front.

As a reminder at the merger announcement, we guided to an average annual run rate of $110 million to $140 million of synergies within 18 months following close.

Then during our 1q 255 earnings call, we updated the range to 125 to 150 million.

We are pleased to report that we are again, increasing our projected annualized synergies range.

To approximately 150 to 170 million. The key drivers of this increase are the additional benefits. We identified in the areas of admin costs purchasing and best practices sharing.

Admin costs, such as lower insurance premiums and benefits costs are now, well, delineated and account for the majority of the increase.

Mitesh Thakkar: While depressed export metallurgical and thermal prices have reduced the value of the expected uplift from the thermal byproduct blending, we still expect to achieve our overall marketing synergy targets by finding offsets. Furthermore, when the market recovers, the value of the uplift will drive the blending synergy higher. In closing, we continue to demonstrate the strategic benefits of the merger as we identify additional synergies while navigating a mixed coal market and dynamic macro landscape. While our results have improved quarter over quarter, we believe they do not fully reflect the long-term potential of this company.

Best practice sharing and headcount optimization are expected to make up the difference.

While depressed, export methodological and thermal prices have reduced. The value of the expected uplift from the thermal byproduct planning. We still expect to achieve our overall marketing Synergy targets by finding offsets,

furthermore, when the market recovers the value of the uplift will drive, the blending Synergy, higher,

In closing, we continue to demonstrate the Strategic benefits of the merger, as we identify additional synergies, while navigating a mixed call Market and dynamic macro landscape.

Mitesh Thakkar: As commodity prices begin to more accurately reflect global cost structures, particularly on the metallurgical side, and certain broader macroeconomic uncertainties begin to dissipate, we expect the core platform to deliver the full earnings power of our assets and the value of the captured synergies and to fully reflect the efforts of our miners and corporate employees. The post-merger integration has progressed exceptionally well in a very short period of time, and I'm very grateful for our team members' dedication and hard work throughout the year. With that, I'll hand the call back to the operator, who will provide further instructions and begin the Q&A session.

While our results have improved quarter over quarter, we believe they do not fully reflect the long-term potential of this company.

As commodity prices, begin to more accurately, reflect Global cost structures. Particularly on the methodological side and certain broader, macroeconomic uncertainties begin to dissipate. We expect the core platform to deliver the full earnings power of our assets, and the value of the captured synergies,

And the fully reflect the efforts of our Miners and corporate employees.

The post merger integration has progressed exceptionally well in a very short period of time.

And I'm very grateful for our team members, dedication, and hard work, throughout the year.

Operator: Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press the star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your headset before pressing any keys. To withdraw your question, please press the star followed by the number two. With that, our first question comes from the line of Chris LaFemina with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

With that, I'll hand the call back to the operator, who will provide further instructions and begin the Q&A session.

Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session to ask a question. You may press star followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speaker-phone, please pick up your handset before pressing any keys to withdraw your question. Please. Press star. Followed by the number 2.

Bob Braithwaite: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question first. I appreciate that. So, just quickly on the buyback, I mean, you generated good cash flow in the quarter, but the buyback when the total capital return was below the 75% target. And I was wondering, in light of the fact that your share price had been weak and there's a pretty good outlook for most of your segments, I would think that now would be a very good time to accelerate the buyback. So, I'm just wondering why, while it was an impressive scale, the buyback, I'm just wondering why it wasn't even bigger in light of where your share price is and how good the outlook is.

With that. Our first question comes from the line of Chris lamina with Jeffrey's. Please go ahead.

Paul Lang: Yeah. Chris, this is Mitesh here, and thank you for that question. I think generally, our guidance on the buybacks have been that we'll return approximately 75% of our free cash flow back to the shareholders. I think if you look at the first half of the year, we have done just over 100% of shareholder returns. So, I would say we have been a little bit more aggressive than what we have guided to. Having said that, I think we continue to monitor the markets and everything around it with all the uncertainties on the macro side. We generate free cash flow from our business, and we'll continue to deploy cash. I think to the extent we have cash flow generation coming in from our operating segments, which we do, and working capital improvements, that a big portion of that is going back to shareholder returns.

Hi guys, thanks for taking my question first. I appreciate that. So just to quickly on the on the buyback. I mean you generate a good cash flow in the quarter but the buyback or the total Capital return on was below the 75% Target. And uh, I was wondering in light of the fact that your share price had been weak and is pretty good outlook for most of your segments. I would think that now would be a very good time to accelerate the buyback. So just wondering why you, well, it was a, you know, impressive scale to buy back. I'm just wondering why it wasn't even bigger in light of where share prices and how good the Outlook is.

Yeah, um, Chris, uh, this is Natasha here. Um, and thank you for that question. I think, um, generally, um, our guidance on the BuyBacks have been that, we will return approximately 75% of our free cash flow back to the shareholders. I think, if you look at first half of the year we have done, uh, just over 100% uh of shareholder return. So I would say we have been a little bit more aggressive than what we have guided to. Um having said that, I think um we continue to monitor the markets and um everything around it, with all the uncertainties on the map of site. Um,

We we generate free cash flow from our business and we will continue to deploy cash. I think um to the extent we have cash flow generation coming in from from our operating segments which which we do and um working Capital Improvements that

Paul Lang: So, I would say every quarter is going to be different. Some quarters are going to be higher than what we generate in terms of free cash flow. Some might be lower, but I think that's how I would think about it from a guidance perspective in the coming quarters.

Bob Braithwaite: Okay. That's fair. And secondly, on the $100 million insurance recovery that you're expecting to get for Lear South, how should we think about that in the context of the capital returns?

portion of that is going back to shareholder returns. So I would say every quarter is going to be different. Some quarters are going to be higher than what we generate in terms of free cash flows, some might be lower. But I think that's how I would think about it from a uh as as a guidance perspective and the coming quarters

Paul Lang: Yeah. Like I said, similar to working capital, I think those funds are available for all corporate purposes. Right now, we see that the biggest value for our shareholders in the stock and our view of the value of the stock hasn't changed. So, from that perspective, I think you should consider that as funds available for the capital return program as well.

Earlier South, how should we think about that in the context of the capital returns?

Bob Braithwaite: Okay. Great. Thank you. Good luck.

Corporate purposes right now, we see that the biggest value, uh, for our shareholders in, in the stock and the our, our view of the value of the stock hasn't changed. Uh, so from that perspective, um, I think you should consider that as funds available for, um, Capital return program as well.

Paul Lang: Thanks.

Bob Braithwaite: Thanks, Chris.

Okay, great. Thank you. Good luck.

Thanks Chris.

Operator: And your next question comes from the line of Nick Giles with B Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

Nick Giles: Thanks, operator. Good morning, everyone. Guys, congrats on a strong quarter here. First, I wanted to ask about your overall level of confidence at Lear South and ultimately returning to normalized levels of production. And should we think about that return as occurring over a number of months or maybe said differently, you know, could we see Lear South run below normalized levels until market fundamentals improve? Thank you.

And your next question comes from the line of Nick gals with the Riley security. Please go ahead.

Paul Lang: Hey, Nick. This is Paul. Look, I think first and foremost, I think the mine overall is not at risk, and I have a real high confidence in the ability to get back up and running. I think with the work we were able to do in June, even though we got pushed out, you know, we saw that we got our eyes on the long haul. We were actually able to repressurize the seal. So, while there's some minor damage, as you would expect, the long haul is in good shape. So, you know, with the plan we have before us, which is to go back in here when the reading is stabilized and try and recover the long haul equipment, you know, sometime in early fall, I feel pretty good that so long as the atmosphere cooperates, we'll be able to do it.

Thanks operator. Good morning everyone. Um, guys, congrats on a strong quarter here. First, I wanted to ask about your, uh, overall level of confidence that Lear South, and ultimately returning to normalized levels of production. And should we think about that return as occurring over a number of months or maybe it's a differently? You know, could we see Lear South to run below normalized levels uh until Market fundamentals improve. Thank you.

Hi Nick. Uh this is Paul. Look, I think first and foremost I I think the mine overall is not at risk, and I have a real high confidence in the ability, to get back up and running.

I think with the work we were able to do in June, even though we got pushed out, you know, we got our eyes on the long wall. We were actually able to repressurize the seal. So,

Well, there's some minor damage, as you would expect. Along... well, it's in good shape.

so, you know, with the plan we have before us, which is to go back in here, when the reading stabilized and try and recover the long wall,

Equipment. You know, sometime in early fall.

uh,

Paul Lang: The plan then will be to move the long haul equipment to the new face, which is about 500 feet from the existing face, and seal the area behind us. My expectation is that while we'll have to do some repair to the long haul, I'm not expecting anything major, and this could, in fact, just look like a very extended long haul move of a couple of weeks. So, at this point in time, I'm still fairly confident about the ability to get up and running relatively quick, particularly heading into Q1.

I I feel pretty good that uh, so long as the atmosphere cooperates, we'll be able to do it. The plan then will be to move the long wall equipment to the new face, which is about 500 feet from the existing face and seal the area behind us.

Uh, my expectation is that while we'll have to do some repair to the long wall, I'm not expecting anything major. And this could in fact just look like a very extended long wall move of a couple of weeks. So

Bob Braithwaite: Yeah. And Nick, this is Bob. To answer your question from a marketing standpoint, I mean, we do see opportunities even today, most of them being in the Pacific market. But again, with our cost structure, it certainly allows us to participate. So, as soon as we get that long haul back up and running, we'll have opportunities to put that coal into those markets.

At this point in time, I'm still fairly confident about the ability to get up and running relatively quickly heading into q1.

Yeah, and then Nick to this is Bob to answer your question from a marketing standpoint. I mean we we do see um, opportunities even today uh, most of them being in the Pacific Market but again with our cost structure and certainly allows us to participate. So as soon as we get that long low back up and running, we'll have opportunities to uh put that coal um into into those markets.

Nick Giles: Oh, and Bob, I appreciate that. And maybe just as a follow-up, I mean, I believe we are coming up on domestic contracting season on the Met side. So, I'm wondering if you had any early indication of how pricing could move year on year. I mean, what's your general appetite to participate in that market this year? Thank you.

Oh, bye. Bye. I appreciate that. And maybe just as a follow-up. I mean, I believe we are coming up on domestic Contracting season on the meaty side. So wondering if you had any early indication of how pricing could move if you go on a year. I mean, what's your

Bob Braithwaite: So, as you mentioned, you know, there's several that are out today. We think there's a couple more forthcoming. But for those that we've participated in thus far, we are having constructive negotiations. It's about all I can say. I do think that, you know, based on where cost structures are, I think it's going to be hard to see a significant decrease, especially on the low-ball side, year on year. But again, we are in those negotiations today, and I think you'll see us participate more in the domestic market on a go-forward basis.

General appetite to participate in that market this year. Thank you.

So, as you mentioned, you know, there's several that are that are out today. We think there's a couple more forthcoming, but for those that we've participated in, thus far, we are having constructive negotiations. Um, it's about all I can say, I, I do think that, um,

You know, based on where cost structures are, um, I think it's going to be hard to see a significant decrease, especially on a low voltage side year on year but um, again, we are in those negotiations today and I, I think you'll see us, uh, participate more in the domestic Market on a go forward basis.

Nick Giles: Thanks for that, Bob. Maybe one last one, if I could. I mean, PRB margins appeared very solid. You've now raised your full-year guide and with lower costs. So, just was wondering if you could provide some additional color on how contracting is looking specifically in the outer years.

Bob Braithwaite: So, yeah, I think, you know, it's certainly demand is up. We raised our guidance at midpoint 6 million tons this year. And then, as Mitesh mentioned, we have 33 million tons contracted for next year. I can tell you the average price of those tons are in the mid-14s today, and we're certainly seeing some appetite of prices even higher than that. So, we are seeing a lot of appetite for future contracting, not only at the PRB, but also in the high CV segment as well. So, again, all good news there on the thermal side.

Thanks for that Bob. Um, maybe 1 last 1 if I could, I mean prb margins appear, very solid. You can now raised your for your guide and uh with lower costs. So just was wondering if you could provide some additional color on how Contracting is looking, uh, specifically in the outer years.

so yeah, I think

so,

And demand is up, uh, we raised our guidance, um, midpoint 6 million tons this year and and then as mesh mentioned, um, we have 33 million tons contracted for next year. Um, I can tell you the average price of those tons are are in the mid 14s today and, and we're certainly seeing, um, some appetite of prices even higher than that. So, we are seeing a lot of appetite for future Contracting. Not only PA, not only is the prb but also in the high CV, segment, as well. So again, I'll, I'll good news there on the thermal side.

Nick Giles: Guys, well, thank you for taking my questions, and continue best of luck.

Bob Braithwaite: Thanks.

As well. Thank you for taking my questions and uh, continue best of luck.

Operator: And your next question comes from the line of George Ade with UBS. Please go ahead.

George Ade: Yeah. Good morning, Paul, Mitesh, Bob, and Dick. Nice update here. Can I start by asking, have you run any studies on rare-earth potential at any of your mines, like some peers in the sector?

Paul Lang: Yeah. We have, as we've talked a few times in the past, done drilling and continue to look at the rare-earth potential. You know, as you know, the Powder River Basin geology is fairly the same mine to mine to mine. And so, like many of the peers in the basin, we're all looking at the same thing. And look, I think it's worth pursuing the analysis. Where it'll lead, I'm not sure. But look, it's time to continue to look at it. And obviously, others have had good success with it. So, we're interested like everybody else.

Yeah, good morning. Paul mesh Bob and deck. Nice update here. Can I start by asking, have you run any studies on Rare Earth potential at any of your minds, like some peers in the sector?

We, we have, as we've talked a few times in the past, um, Drilling and continue to look at the, uh, rarest potential. You know, as you know, the Powder River Basin. Geology is fairly the same mind to mind to mind. And so, like many of the, uh, peers in the base, and we're all looking at the same thing.

And look, I I think, uh, it's it's worth pursuing the analysis where it'll lead, I'm not sure. But uh,

George Ade: Okay. Yeah. Maybe I'm switching tunes a bit. But on the insurance claims, can I just get a little bit more color here? You call out in the release 100 million for Lear South, but there's also the Baltimore Bridge one too. So, if I think about them combined at, say, 100 mil to 150, is that about right? And in terms of timing, is it some in Q4 this year, maybe the bridge, and then, say, two-thirds or the majority falls in early 2026?

Look, uh it's it's time to continue to look at it and obviously others have had good success with it. So we're interested like everybody else.

Paul Lang: Yeah. So, I think, George, I think generally speaking, as we have guided before, I think you are in the ballpark. In terms of the cadence, I think we have submitted an initial claim on some of the expenses that we have incurred with respect to firefighting and idling costs to the insurance adjusters for Lear South claim. So, I think we are hopeful that we'll get some of that in here the remainder of the year. Similarly, on the Baltimore claim, I think the claim has already been submitted, and we are going through the adjustment process right now. We are hopeful both of those two get resolved here towards the end of this year. On the Lear South claim, just to clarify, the expenses reimbursement claim is a smaller one. I think the business interruption claim would be a bigger one that we haven't submitted yet.

Okay. Yeah, maybe I'm switching Tunes a bit but on the insurance claims can I just get a little bit more color here? You call out in the release 100 million for this out but there's also the Baltimore Bridge 1 too. So, if I think about them combined, its say, 100 Mil to 150, is that about, right? And in terms of timing, is it some in Q4 this year, maybe the bridge and then say 2/3 or the majority Falls in early 2026?

Yeah. Um, so I think George, I think, um, generally speaking as we have got it before I think, um, you are in the ballpark, uh, in terms of the Cadence, I think. Um, we have submitted, uh, an initial claim on, um, some of the expenses that we have incurred with respect to firefighting and um, um, and idling cost, uh, to the insurance adjusters for your South claim. So I think um, we are hopeful that uh, we'll get some of that in um, here remainder of the Year. Similarly, on the Baltimore claim, I think, um, the claim has already been submitted and, um, we are going through the adjustment process right now. Um, we're hopeful both of the, uh, both of those 2.

Uh get resolved here. Um towards the end of this year, um on the rear South claim, uh, just to clarify the

Paul Lang: As we get our estimates and everything in row, I think there's going to be a claim submitted for business interruption side as well. So, when you put the business interruption and the expenses side, that's the 100-plus number that we are talking about, and that's going to be more of a 2026 recovery.

George Ade: Yeah. Okay. Thanks, Mitesh. And then, just one more for you. Working capital, like it was a pretty big outflow in Q1, nearly half of that unwound this quarter. How should we think about working capital in the second half? Is there potentially, say, 50 million more unwound? I don't know. Dilly, you're not going to know timing, but a bit more to come potentially there.

Expenses reimbursement, claim is a smaller 1. I think the business Interruption claim would be a bigger 1 that we haven't submitted yet as um as we get our estimates and everything in row. I think uh there's going to be a claim submitted for business Interruption side as well. So when you put the business Interruption and the expenses side, that's the 100 plus number that we are talking about and that's going to be more of a 2026 recovery.

Paul Lang: Yeah, George. So, we are expecting some more working capital here, but just recognize that the vast majority of that has been reversed in Q2 with respect to the receivables. I think in Q3 and Q4, I think there's some work being done on inventory reduction. We have said earlier that we have some metallurgical coal inventory due to strong performance at some of our mines. That is going to flow through as well. So, I think there is some reversal coming. It's not going to be of the same magnitude as you saw in Q2.

Yeah. Okay, thanks mesh. And then just 1 more for you. Um, working capital. Like we it was pretty big, um, outflow and q1, nearly half of that Unwound this quarter. How should we think about working capital and second half is the potentially say, 50 million, more unwind? Um, I don't know, it's early, you're not going to know timing, but a bit more to come potentially there.

Yeah, George. So we are expecting some more working capital here, but um, just recognize that the vast majority of that has been reversed in Q2 with respect to the receivables. Um, I think, um, in Q3 and Q4, I think there's some work being done on inventory reduction. Um, we have said earlier that

We have some metallurgical call inventory, due to strong performance at some of our minds, um, that, um, that is going to flow through as well. So, I think there is some reversal coming, it's not going to be of the same magnitude as you saw in Q2.

George Ade: Yeah. Okay. No, that's great. And then, just one more for you, Mitesh. Sorry. If I look at the corporate other and eliminations line, in revenue, it jumped 10 million quarter on quarter. Can you maybe help me understand what's happening there? The net loss for this segment is up quite a bit, all things considered, Q1Q.

Paul Lang: For corporate other and eliminations, is that what you're referring to?

Yeah, okay, no, that's great. And then um, just 1 more for you mesh, sorry. Um, if I look at the corporate other and eliminations line in Revenue, it jumped 10 million quarter on quarter, can you maybe help me understand what's happening there? The net loss for this segment is up quite a bit. All things considered q and Q.

George Ade: Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

Paul Lang: Yeah. So, what is going through corporate others and eliminations are, you know, some of the spending that we have with respect to items such as gain on sale of assets, litigation, corporate loss accrual. We had some fire cleanup costs also going through it. So, those are the kind of things that's flowing through. I think over time, you will see that stabilize a little bit. Does that answer your question?

Uh, for corporate other and eliminations. Um is that what you're um, is that what you're saying? Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, yeah, so, um, what is going through corporate others and eliminations are, uh, you know, some of the spending that we have with respect to, um,

Items such as um, gain on sale of assets um litigation corporate loss approval. Um we had some 5 clean up cost also going through it. Um so so those are the kind of things that flowing through. Um I think over time you will see that stabilize a little bit.

George Ade: Yeah. No, that's handy. I might follow up at a later date just to clarify a few things there. But thanks, thanks, Mitesh.

Does that answer your question? Yeah, no, that's that's handy. I might, um, follow up at a line, I just to clarify a few things there, but thanks. Thanks.

Operator: Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Nathan Martin with the Benchmark Company. Please go ahead.

Nathan Martin: Yeah. Thanks, operator. Good morning, everyone. Maybe just to start, Bob, you just mentioned that the 2026 PRB tons priced, I think, in the mid-$14 range. Any thoughts on the pricing for the 13 million tons or so of the high CV thermal coal you guys have for '26?

Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Nathan Martin with the Benchmark company company. Please go ahead.

Bob Braithwaite: Yeah. So, for the 13 million, Nate, you know, it's broken down really six and a half domestic, six and a half export. And about four million is linked to API2, call it two and a half fixed. On the export side, balance obviously would be domestic. I will tell you, we're using a $110 API2 price, and we're looking at low 60s.

CB thermal you guys have for 26.

Yeah, so for the 138, you know, it's broken down, really 6 and a half, domestic 6 and a half export, um and about 4 million, linked API to call 2 and a half fixed.

Um, on the export side balance. Obviously be domestic. Uh, I will tell you we're, we're using an $110 API to price, um, and we're looking at low 60s.

Nathan Martin: Okay. Perfect, Bob. That's helpful. And maybe looking at the Met segment, you know, $21 million of Lear South island costs this quarter, calling out another, I think it's 20 to 30 million for the fourth, excuse me, for the third quarter. Obviously, those expenses don't run through the Met segment cost per ton line item, but just hoping to get some thoughts on how you see that trending as we enter the second half. It looks like, based on your updated full-year guidance, you know, Met segment cost per ton is going to need to increase to an average of over $96 a ton, which is higher than it was in the second quarter.

Okay, perfect Bob that's that's helpful. Um and maybe looking at the, the Met segment

Nathan Martin: So, just, you know, is there any way you could walk us through kind of the drivers of the forecasted increase, especially if you still foresee, you know, lower costs for your south mine coming back online, hopefully in the fourth quarter?

Um, you know, 21 million dollars of leader, South Island cost. This quarter calling out another. I think it's 20 to 30 million, uh, for the 4, excuse me, for the third quarter. Uh, obviously those expenses, don't run through the Met segment cost for time cost per ton line item. But, um, just hoping to get some thoughts on on how you see that trending as we enter the second half. It looks like based on your updated for your guidance. Um, you know, met second cost per ton is going to need to increase to an average of over 96 dollars a ton, Which is higher than it was in the in the second quarter. So just, you know, there's any way you could walk us through kind of the drivers of the forecast that increase especially if you still receive uh you know lower cost of their South mine coming back online hopefully in the fourth quarter,

Paul Lang: So, I think, this is Mitesh here. I think in Q3 and Q4, I think the cost is going to be a little bit elevated because we are going to have some CM mining costs. If you recall, we explained this on the last call, that when the CMs are mining at Lear South, you have a little bit of an elevated cost structure. What ended up in Q2 is in the month of June, when we pulled the CMs out, and when we pulled the CMs out as we breached the seals, for the rest of that month, I think all that cost moved down to idle cost instead of the per ton cost. So, I think it's at a different location. That cost was incurred, but it's at a different location because there were no tons being produced.

So I think, um, um, this is Natasha, um, I think in Q3 and Q4, I think the cost is going to be a little bit, uh, elevated. Uh, because we're going to have some CM Mining cost. Um, if you recall we explained this, uh, on the last call that when we are when the CMS are mining at Lear South, you have a little bit of an elevated cost structure. What ended up in Q2 is

Um, in the month of June, when we pulled the CMS out and um, when we pulled the CMS out as we reach the seals for the rest of that month, I think, uh, all that cost.

Paul Lang: I think as we go to Q3 and Q4, that cost is elevated because the CM tons will have production associated with it, which will impact the per tons. But longer term, I think once Lear is up and running, we do expect our cost to drift down to that low 90s level.

Moved down to idle cost of the part-time cost. So I think it's it's it's at a different location that cost was incurred but it's at a different location because there were no tons being produced. I think as we go to Q3 and Q4 that cost is elevated because the CM turns will have production associated with it, which will impact the partners.

Nathan Martin: Okay, Mitesh. Appreciate that. You know, maybe one for Paul. You know, could we get your thoughts on the recently announced Union Pacific and Norfolk Southern merger? Core is clearly a customer of both rails, so I was just curious to hear how you think a potential combination could impact your business.

but longer term, I think once we is up and running, um, we we do expect our cost to drift down to that low 90s level,

Paul Lang: I mean, it's an interesting question. And I think we were all a little surprised by the potential merger. And you know, while we obviously have some concerns, you know, I get the desire for both railroads to want to create a more efficient and cost-effective platform. If you stand back and think about it, you know, some of the positives for us could be our ability to blend some of our western coal with PAMC. It would also probably give us better access to our East Coast terminals for our western coal. If you think about it, we could load larger vessels and, you know, have less sailing time to Europe than we do out of the Gulf of America. You know, and transit times should be a little bit better with fewer handoffs.

Okay, Natasha. I appreciate that. Um, you know, maybe 1 for Paul. Um, you know, could we get your thoughts on the recently announced Union Pacific and Norfolk Southern merger? Of course, clearly a customer of both rails. So I was just curious to hear how you think a potential combination could impact your business.

I mean it's an interesting question and I think we're all a little surprised by the potential merger and you know, while we obviously have some concerns, um, you know, I get the desire for both railroads to want to create a more efficient and cost-effective platform.

Uh, if you stand back and think about it, you know, some of the positives for us could be our ability to blend. Some of our Western coal with pamc. It would also probably give us better access to our east east coast terminals.

Paul Lang: You know, having said all that, though, you know, I think what we're going to want to understand as a shipper on both of these railroads is, and it, you know, first and foremost is that, you know, they're going to derive a great deal of savings out of this and that, you know, we're assuming some of this is going to come back to us as a shipper. And secondly, we're going to have some protections on that the service level stays high. I mean, the bottom line is we are critically dependent on rail service and rail cost. And for us to be competitive both domestically and globally, the railroads have to perform and they have to perform at a reasonable rate. So, look, we have great relationships with both railroads, and we're open to a balanced discussion, and we'll see where this goes.

For Western coal, think about it. We could load larger vessels and uh, you know, have less sailing time to Europe than we do out of the Gulf of America. You know, in transit time should be a little bit better with fewer handoffs.

You know, having said all of that though you know I think what we're going to wonder want to understand, is the shipper on both of these railroads is? And it you know first and foremost is that, you know, they're going to drive a great deal of savings out of this and that you know we're assuming some of this is going to come back to us as a shipper and secondly we're going to have some protections on that the uh,

Service level stays High. I mean, the bottom line is we are critically dependent on rail service and rail cost.

And for us to be competitive, both domestically and globally, the railroads have to perform and have to perform at a reasonable rate. So, look, we have great relationships with both railroads and we're open to a balanced discussion and we'll see where this goes.

Nathan Martin: Appreciate that, Paul. And then maybe it would also be good to get your thoughts around some of the recent increase in trade tensions with India, especially given Core's, you know, it's an important export market for Core, I should say.

Paul Lang: Yeah. I'll start off and let the others jump in. I mean, I, you know, the following of the tariffs and, you know, the reciprocal tariffs, you know, is becoming a morning obsession, I think, with a lot of us to try and understand and figure out where it's going. You know, I think the one thing I take some solace in is that, you know, most of these have been resolved, although, you know, it's been a little messy. You know, with Japan and the EU getting resolved, you know, it was sure nice to be, have for us to have India resolved because India remains a huge trading partner of Core. But any other thoughts, Mr. Group?

appreciate that, Paul and and maybe would also be good to get your thoughts around some of the recent increase in trade tensions with India and especially given our course, you know, it's an important export market for core and we should say

yeah, I I'll

the reciprocal tariffs, you know, is becoming a morning Obsession, I think. With a lot of us to try and understand and figure out where it's going.

you know, I think the

These have been resolved.

Although, you know, it's been a little messy, you know, the with Japan, and the EU getting resolved, you know, it would sure nice to be have for us to have Indie resolved, because India remains a huge trading partner.

Of core.

Mitesh Thakkar: Yeah. I would just add one thing. I think PMC, in particular, the quality of that coal makes it a very flexible product. As you know, it goes into the crossover met market. It goes into the domestic power generation markets and, of course, the industrial market overseas. I think, as Paul mentioned, we would hope that the India-US trade tensions abate, and you know, it's not an issue. But the product itself is flexible for us to be able to move. I think if you look at China as a great example, right, like last year we shipped a lot of crossover product into China. This year, we're not doing much at all because of the tariffs, but we are moving more to Indonesia. So, I think what I'm trying to say is our marketing team is doing a very good job of managing through this.

Any other thoughts with the group? Yeah, I I would have just add 1 thing. Um, I think, um, PMC in particular, the quality of that call, um, makes it a very flexible product. As you, you know, it goes into the crossover met Market, it goes into the domestic, um, Power Generation markets, and of course, the industrial Market overseas, I think. Um, as Paul mentioned we

Mitesh Thakkar: And I feel like the product quality and the logistics strength that we have with different terminals and the blending potential, I think we'll have to continue to look for new homes.

We would hope that um, the India us trade tensions are bait and, um, you know, um, it's not an issue, but the product itself is flexible to for us to be able to move. I think, if you look at, um, China's great example, right? Like, um, last year we were, um, we shipped a lot of crossover product into China. Um, this year we, we are not doing much at all because of the tariffs, but, um, we are moving more to Indonesia. So, I think what I'm trying to say is our, our marketing team, um, is, is, is doing a very good job of managing through this and I feel like, um, the product quality and the logistics strength that we have with different Terminals and the blending potential, I think, um, we'll have to continue to look for new homes.

Nathan Martin: All right. Very helpful, guys. I'll leave it there. Best of luck in the second half.

Bob Braithwaite: Thanks, Nate?

All right, very helpful, guys. I'll leave it there. Best of luck in the second quarter.

Operator: And we do have a follow-up question coming from the line of Nick Giles with B Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

And we do have a follow-up question. Coming from the line of nickel should be around your security. Please go ahead.

Nick Giles: Thanks for taking my follow-up. Apologies if this is somewhat repetitive, but you know, I believe in your prepared remarks, you mentioned that met volumes will be market-driven. And just so when we start to think about what 2026 met volumes could look like with the recovered Lear South, should we be thinking that you could hold back some tons or anything you'd call out from a mixed perspective? Appreciate any color there.

apologies, if this is,

I believe in your prepared remarks, you mentioned that met volumes will be Market driven and just so when we start to think about what 2026 met volumes, could look like with the recovered Lear South

Paul Lang: Yeah. You know, my view is that, you know, when we get back to Lear South running, and hopefully that's early in Q1, that will speed, you know, we will see volumes very much akin to what people were used to. You know, as Mitesh noted in his earlier comments, the decision at Itman was a difficult one, but one, you know, I think we took because, you know, I think there was a belief that the balance sheets of some of the coal companies would go ahead and support losses at some of these mines for some period of time. And we took the tact of we're not going to do that. And that will follow through, you know, into next year.

Should we be thinking that you could hold back some tons or anything you'd call out from a mix perspective, uh, appreciate any color there.

and hopefully that's early in q1 that full speed you

we we will see volumes very much. Akin to what people are used to.

Uh, you know, as much cash noted in his earlier comments, the decision that Hitman was a difficult 1. But 1, you know, I think we we took because

Paul Lang: Look, as long as we could generate a margin and feel comfortable in the outlook, we'll keep running operations, but we'll remain market-driven and do what we have to do to adjust our operations.

You know, I think there was a belief that the balance sheets of some of the coal companies would go ahead and support losses at some of these Minds for some period of time and we took the tact of we're not going to do that and that will follow through, you know, in the next year. Look as long as we can generate a margin

And feel comfortable in the outlook. We'll keep running operations, but we'll remain market-driven and do what we have to do to adjust our operations.

Nick Giles: Guys, thanks again. Best of luck.

Bob Braithwaite: Thanks.

Paul Lang: Thanks.

Okay, thanks again. Uh, best of luck.

Operator: And your next question comes from George Ade with UBS. Please go ahead.

George Ade: Yeah. Hang on. It's just one more as well. Sorry. On the, yeah, on the net cost segment, realized price of the thermal byproduct was up nearly 40% Q1Q. So, but like that seems really good given the pricing soft environment at the moment. Like how much higher can that get with blending and so forth, and maybe a bit more color? Like should we assume that higher price from this quarter is a more reasonable assumption going forward?

This. Go ahead.

Bob Braithwaite: Yeah. So, George, this is Bob. So, as you mentioned, you know, I think in Q1, we were mid-30s, Q2 mid-40s on the thermal byproduct from a pricing perspective. And you know, what we've done since the merger is we've been able to take advantage of that product and blending it in with PAMC. And I will tell you that on a go-forward basis, we're looking to continue to maximize doing so. So, when you look at Q3, Q4, I'd say it's going to be a lot similar to Q2. It's also market-driven because it depends on what the realization you're getting back on the international market is as well. So, as the international market continues to improve, then you'll see the MIDS pricing improve. But for sake of where we stand today, I'd say you're closer to Q2 realization than you are Q1 on the MIDS product.

Yeah, hang on. It's just 1 more as well. Sorry on the yeah hey I'm on the net call. Segment realized price for the thermal byproduct was up nearly 40% Q on Q. So um, but like that seems really good. Given the pricing soft environment at the moment. Like, how much higher can that get with blending and so forward? Um, and maybe a bit more color, like should we assume that higher price from this quarter is a more reasonable assumption going forward?

Yeah so George this is Bob. So as you mentioned, you know, I think in q1, we were mid-30s Q2 mid-40s on the on the thermal byproduct from a pricing perspective and

You know what we've done since since the merger is took we we've been able to take advantage of that product and blending it in with pamc. And I will tell you that on a go for basis, we're looking to continue to maximize doing so. So when you look at Q3 Q4, I'd say, it's going to be a lot similar to Q2. Um, it's also Market driven because it depends on what the realization you're getting back on the international market is as well. So,

George Ade: Yeah. Okay. Great. Thanks. And then just checking, I've got it right before when you were talking about 26 pricing. Was that 110 metric a ton for API2 and then for the 4 million ton? And then when you said low 60s, was that talking as a whole or what's priced in so far for domestic?

Was the international market continues to to improve, then you'll see the the me, the mids pricing improved. But uh, for sake of of where we stand today, I'd say you're you're closer to Q2 realization than you are q1 on the mids product.

Bob Braithwaite: Yeah. So, we use the 110 as the assumption that's baked into the 4 million tons that are linked to API.To.

Yep. Okay great thanks. So then just checking I got it right before when you were talking about, um, 26 pricing was that 1 10 metric a ton for API too. And then for the 4 million tonne and then when you said low 60s, was that talking as a whole or what's priced in so far for domestic?

Deck Slone: and that would net back all in with for the 13 million tons, would be in the low 60s back to the back to the segment at the mine.

Operator: Yeah. I understand. Yeah.

That's baked into the 4 million, tons that are linked to API too and that would net back all in with, for the 130s, back to the, back to the segment.

Deck Slone: Thank you.

At the line. Yeah.

Mitesh Thakkar: And we have no further questions at this time. I would like to turn it back to Paul Lang for closing remarks.

Thank you.

Bob Braithwaite: Thank you again for your interest in Q4. Let me close again by recognizing the Q4 team for the tremendous progress they've made and the work they've put in in bringing the two companies together. The, the markets that we're currently going through, you know, just simply, you know, refortify the reasons why we did the merger and the ability to generate cash through a wide range of market environments. With that, operator, I want to thank you, and we'll talk to you in October.

And we have no further questions at this time. I would like to turn it back to Paul longed for closing remarks.

Thank you again for your interest in Core. Uh, let me close again by recognizing the Core team for the tremendous progress they've made and the work they've put in bringing the two companies together.

the uh the markets that we're currently going through, you know, just simply

re re re reform the reasons why we did the merger and the ability to generate cash through a wide range of Market environments.

Mitesh Thakkar: Thank you, presenters. And ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.

With that operator. What I want to thank you and we'll talk to you in October.

Thank you to the presenters, and ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for joining me. Now, disconnect.

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