Q2 2025 Dutch Bros Inc Earnings Call

Thank you for standing by and welcome to the Dutch Bros. Second quarter 2025 earnings conference call and webcast.

This conference call and webcast is being recorded today, August 6th, 2025 at 5:00 pm eastern time and will be available for replay shortly after it has concluded following, the company's presentation, we will open up the lines for questions and instructions to queue up will be provided at that time.

I would now like to turn the call over to Patty Warren, Dutch Bros Senior Director and Head of Relations and Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Good afternoon and welcome.

I'm joined by Christine, Baron CEO, and president and Josh gonser CFO.

We issued our earnings press release for the quarter end of June 30th 2025 after the market closed today.

The earnings press release, along with a supplemental information. Deck have been posted to our investor relations website.

Please be aware that all statements in our prepared remarks and in response to your questions, other than those of historical fact, our forward-looking statements and our subject to risks uncertainties and assumptions that may cause our actual results to to differ materially.

They are qualified by the cautionary statements in our earnings press release, and the risk factors in our latest SEC filings, including our most recent annual report on form 10K in our quarterly report form on form 10q.

We assume no obligation to update any 4 looking statements.

We will reference non-gaap Financial measures on today's call.

As a reminder non-gaap measures are neither substitutes for nor Superior to measures that are prepared under gaap.

Please review the reconciliation of non-gaap measures to comparable, gaap results in our earnings press release.

With that. I now like to turn the call over to Christine.

Thank you, Patty and good afternoon. Everyone Dutch Bros continues to fire on all cylinders Guided by a focus strategy, strong execution and our amazing people. Our second quarter performance underscored our continued momentum and reaffirm the strength of our brand.

We are encouraged by our significant multi-year Runway. And the opportunities we have to deliver sustained results and continue scaling, this company with our 10-year and passionate team.

In Q2, once again, we delivered on our mission.

Of difference 1 cup at a time.

Our business momentum remains strong and our second quarter results, were outstanding across multiple fronts.

We delivered Revenue growth of 28%.

System. Same shop, sales growth of 6.1%.

And Company operated same shop, sales growth of 7.8%.

Our transaction driving initiatives are working.

As system comp was primarily driven by transaction growth of 3.7%.

Marking yet another consecutive quarter of transaction growth.

This growth was fueled by a coordinated effort of our long-term multi-year, transaction drivers.

Our new shop opening Cadence is on track and we remain confident in our ability to open at least 160 system shops in 2025.

New shop productivity is at elevated levels and in Q2 we opened 31 new shops and entered Indiana. Our 19th state.

Our confidence, in this year's trajectory continues to grow reinforced by the strong performance. We have seen so far this year,

It is very clear that our efforts are working in unison to propel us forward.

These efforts translated into strong financial results in the second quarter.

Systemwide auvs were 2.05 million in the quarter?

In line with record levels.

Revenue grew at 28% with exceptional flow through generating, an impressive 37% adjusted ebit, dog growth for the quarter.

Based on these outstanding results of the board. I am very pleased to announce that we are raising our full year guidance for total revenues.

Same shop sales growth and adjusted ebitda.

Josh will share additional details in a few minutes.

Let's begin today's business update by spotlighting our greatest Force multiplier. Our exceptional people.

Since 1992, we have been trailblazing a category defining people first culture within the drive-through beverage industry.

When combined with our Relentless focus on speed quality and service.

Are people first culture is not only our differentiator, but it is our most powerful competitive advantage.

Every senior leader in our business has passed their flow checks and every new broista begins their Journey grounded in our culture before learning to handcraft beverages.

This approach ensures, our leaders are fully immersed, in the heart of our business.

Building empathy, strengthening connection to the field and enabling more informed people first strategic decisions

Our commitment to culture is also reflected internally with ongoing field surveys.

We consistently score high on overall job satisfaction and our values of radiate kindness.

Get up early. Stay up late and change the world.

when we recently expanded into Indiana, our opening mob team with on the ground, delivering a track record of consistency and service to jumpstart the Dutch Bros brand in the state

This approach ensures every new market, every new shop, and every new future in the field. Reflects the culture that has defined us for over 30 years.

Our current operator pipeline, includes over 450 candidates with an impressive average tenure of over 7 years.

Each 1 ready to carry forward and scale the Dutch broth culture.

This homegrown pipeline built over time with intention ensures, a consistent High bar across markets that is difficult to replicate.

our operator pipeline is Central to scaling our shops and more importantly to scaling the Dutch Bros culture consistently

These individuals are deeply aligned with our values and bring a strong Foundation of experience.

Positioning us for long-term, people-driven growth.

To development. We opened 31 system shops in the second quarter and are energized by the accelerating momentum into the back half of the year to open at least 160 shops in 2025.

Thanks to the robust tools.

Streamline processes and exceptional Talent. We've invested in thus far. We are well positioned to achieve our goal of 2029 shops. In 2029

This Dutch Bros is in growth mode and we are just getting started with a long-term addressable Market of 7,000 shops Nationwide and just north of 1,000 shops today. The runway ahead is expansive

We continue to broaden our real estate capabilities by making key hires who will execute on our long-term pipeline.

With refined systems and a disciplined market planning approach in place, we can continue to scale our presence nationally and accelerate an ambitious growth strategy.

New shop productivity remained at elevated levels in Q2.

Driven by our refined approach to Market planning.

With new locations, opening in the right areas. In the right sequence, customers are lining up from day 1.

These strategic investments in planning, tools and processes have improved systemwide auvs and new shop productivity.

Positioning us for long-term success.

Now let me share how we're expanding our competitive advantages through a focused set of clear and well-defined transaction driving initiatives.

We are delivering transaction growth through a three-part plan, which includes an enhanced focus on category-wide innovation.

And increase in paid advertising efforts designed to build brand awareness.

And an emphasis on the Dutch Rewards program for 1 to 1 customer connection.

We saw steady progress across each of these initiatives during the quarter with clear signs that our efforts are working.

Evidenced by a sequential Improvement in transaction growth.

We are only beginning to unlock our full potential with significant Runway ahead.

Here is an update on each.

First innovation.

Innovation has been a Cornerstone of our brand for over 3 decades and it will continue to play a pivotal role going forward.

This quarter, we responded to strong customer Demand by bringing back lavender. And we introduced dolce de leche using ingredients from our existing pantry.

We also introduced sour Berry and matcha showcasing how we simultaneously innovate across our menu categories.

These launches reinforce our commitment to delivering bold exciting flavors that resonate with our customers.

In may, we elevated the customer experience with a thoughtful touch returning, the friendship bracelets from 2024 that highlight, our engaging customer first approach and a fun way.

Then in June, we kept the excitement going with the Dutch Koozie, bringing something fresh relevant, and most importantly fun for our customers.

Second paid advertising.

During the quarter, we continued to step up execution of our paid advertising strategy and the results have been clear.

as we highlighted during our investor day, the strong performance of newer vintages has been driven in part by our laser focus on paid media and brand awareness,

We are proud to share that based on recent survey data both our aided and unaided awareness have shown significant Improvement when compared to last year.

We are seeing clear momentum and were energized by the positive trajectory.

This progress, reflects the strength of our brand and the impact of our continued efforts.

Looking ahead we see a clear and compelling Runway to further close the awareness Gap and new and existing markets both in relative and absolute terms.

Unlocking, even greater potential for our brand.

As we scale and maintain a higher elevated paid advertising stance, the benefits of our awareness-driving initiatives are clear to us.

Additionally, we believe the plan launch of our cpg line in 2026 can provide a meaningful, Tailwind to Brand awareness, providing an expansive runway for our brand to grow.

And finally Dutch rewards in Q2 approximately 72% of system. Transactions were attributed to our loyalty program.

Representing a 5-point expansion versus the same period last year.

We are just starting to tap into the full potential of this data to enhance our segmentation strategies.

Recently, we have become more precise in the way we tailor communication to specific customer cohorts based on their rewards behaviors.

in addition to these foundational transaction driving initiatives,

We see a clear path forward with our strategic growth. Drivers Order ahead.

Throughput and food.

We remain enthusiastic about Order ahead, as we believe it is contributing to our transaction growth.

As of the end of the second quarter Order ahead, accountant for approximately 11.5% of transaction. Mix

In select new markets, we are seeing transaction. Mix more than double the overall average.

Order ahead awareness has been driven, primarily by customer exposure to the program, through shop signage and our mobile app.

This deliberate steady approach remains our Focus as we continue to prioritize driving the business forward while ensuring that our bro East are set up to deliver fantastic service.

We are seeing our strategy come to fruition as Order ahead gains momentum in the morning Day part.

We are focused on eliminating structural barriers.

Driving better, throughput outcomes and opening up the underutilized walk-up window Channel.

These results, reinforce our confidence in our multi-year journey.

We remain focused on increasing transaction potential at our shops by increasing speed and capacity through a series of throughput based initiatives.

Transaction growth continues to be healthy in Q2 and our shops are intentionally designed to support High volumes eating. Our throughput efforts

This enables us to meet Rising demand while consistently delivering an exceptional customer experience.

Recently, we introduced enhanced dashboards which provide shop management greater visibility into speed-based kpis.

We know that when our field clearly understands and easily sees measurable goals. They take meaningful action to improve, throughput,

We are also continuing to refine our labor deployment model.

Ensuring that Staffing better matches demand expectations during the day.

While it is still early Innings. These initial low-hanging fruit wins represent a strong start to what we recognized to be a multi-year journey to unlock transaction growth.

We remain excited about the progress of our food pilot and look forward to continuing to test and refine throughout 2025.

Early results, suggest that it expanded food offering is driving incremental growth in the morning Day part.

Much like our order ahead initiative.

During the quarter, we expanded the pilot to 64 company operated shops, extending, Beyond Arizona, into select markets in Kansas, Missouri and Oklahoma.

The initial results from our pilot test are exceeding expectations and reinforcing the potential of this initiative to drive auvs.

We are seeing encouraging signs of both ticket and transaction lift within the test group.

Early performance in New Markets has been especially strong.

Adding to our confidence to continue testing ensuring we scale thoughtfully over time.

We are pleased with customer and broista Survey data as well.

Particularly around feedback from customers on quality and likelyhood to recommend.

And our encouraged by early results. Indicating our ability to maintain high throughput levels.

We're well positioned to expand this test in 2025 and pursue a broader system roll out throughout 2026.

This expansion will enable Dutch Bros to capture additional white space in the morning Day part, which is a routinized high-value occasion with strong growth potential.

In closing momentum in our business is strong and we remain confident in the multi-year, growth Runway ahead.

We have the most passionate people who are deeply engaged in the business.

Our broista is energized every interaction with the customer, fueling momentum across our brand and our operator pipeline is ready to grow with us.

We have clear visibility on our growth drivers.

In Q2, we achieved, 28% year-over-year, Revenue growth and 6.1% system. Same shop sales growth reflecting the strength of our business.

We are clearly resonating with our customers as demonstrated by healthy transaction growth.

With over 30 years of brand, love behind us. We continue to open shops with lines that stretch, well beyond our drive-throughs underscoring, the strength of our strong demand.

We are operating at the intersection of a powerful set of secular Trends which are shaping our industry.

From the rising demand, for cold beverages, energy, drinks, and enhanced customization. We are exceptionally well, positioned to continue the pursuit of our strategic vision.

Our new shop productivity remains elevated and we're excited about the Cadence of openings throughout the remainder of the year.

To be over, 1,000 shops in, with the amazing love. We see for our brand, gives me so much optimism in our future, our team, and the strength of this amazing company.

I'll now turn it over to Josh who will discuss our financial performance and updates on guidance.

Thanks, Christine. I'll provide a recap of our second-quarter results along with an updated outlook for 2025.

Our Q2 performance built on the strong momentum from q1 and clearly demonstrated that our transaction driving initiatives are continuing to work.

These efforts along with the maturation of our new vintages fueled our transaction growth and reinforced the confidence, we have in the long term growth potential of our business.

Second quarter Revenue was 416 million.

An increase of 28% or 91 million over the second quarter of last year.

System. Same shop. Sales growth was 6.1%.

Driven by 3.7% transaction growth.

We are very proud of the transaction, outperformance delivered, this quarter.

it is a clear Testament to the strength of our transaction driving initiatives, which are working in unison to propel the business forward, and serve as the primary driver of comp performance

I want to take a moment to recognize our field and marketing teams.

Their execution allowed us to outperform our Q2 expectations.

We continue to see strong traffic Trends through July, with Q3 off to a great start. We are raising our full year. Same shop sales growth guidance to approximately 4.5%.

For the third quarter, this contemplates 3.5 to 4% system. Same shop sales growth.

Which includes approximately 60 basis points of net price rolloff.

The impact of the July 4th day of week shift.

And continued, underlying transaction growth with a more normalized benefit for marketing activity in the third quarter.

During the quarter, we opened 31 new shops.

Of which 30 were company operated, bringing total system shop count to 1043 shops.

We are confident in our ability to accelerate our Pace throughout the back half of the year.

With approximately 40 openings expected in Q3 and approximately 60 in Q4.

Positioning us to open at least 1,660 system shops in 2025.

In the quarter, adjusted Eva was 89 million, an increase of 37% or 24 million over. The second quarter of last year.

Moving to our company operated shops revenue and Q2 was 381 million, an increase of 29% or 85 million over the second quarter of last year.

Company operated same shop. Sales growth was outstanding at 7.8% with 5.9% coming from transaction growth.

Company. Operated shop contribution was 118 million.

An increase of 30% or 27 million year-over-year.

In was 31.1%.

Beverage food and packaging costs were 25.3% of company operated shop Revenue.

The 20 basis points of year-over-year favorability reflects beneficial, Dairy pricing, which more than offsets increases. In coffee costs.

We expect these Dairy savings to continue through the remainder of the year.

Coffee toss were roughly in line with expectations for the quarter.

With that said, we do expect to see the impact from coffee to accelerate in the back half of the year.

As a reminder, we are substantially price locked on coffee for the remainder of 2025.

Tariffs remain an area. We are actively monitoring. And at this point, coffee accounts for 10% of our total cogs basket with approximately 50% of our coffee, sourced from Brazil,

With all this in mind, our full year outlook assumes, beverage food and packaging costs of approximately 26% of company. Operated shop Revenue in the back half of the year.

We achieved on Dairy costs.

Labor costs were 26.6% of company, operated shop Revenue.

Which is 60 basis points. Favorable year-over-year primarily driven by sales Leverage,

Our full year guidance continues to contemplate labor. As a percentage of company operated Revenue remaining flat year-over-year for 2025.

Occupancy and other costs were 15.8% of company operated chop Revenue, which is 80 basis points. Unfavorable year-over-year, driven largely, from the impact of occupancy, rates from new shops.

pre-opening expenses were 1.2% of company, operated shop Revenue, which is 30 basis points, favorable year-over-year,

in the accelerated shop opening Cadence in the back half, we expect pre-opening expenses to be higher than the first half of 2025,

Adjusted sgna was 58.7 million or 14.1% of total revenue.

we continue to expect approximately 90 basis points of Leverage on adjusted sgna for the full year 2025

In Q2 we announced that we are transitioning. The majority of the remaining headquarter staff to Arizona,

we expect to incur up to 8.5 million in non-recurring costs, which we anticipate will be excluded from our adjusted sgna.

In the quarter interest expense. Net was approximately flat year-over-year at 7 million.

For the quarter, we delivered, 26 Cents of adjusted eps.

Up from 19 cents or 37% from Q2 of last year.

Now, I'll provide an update on our balance sheet, cash flow and liquidity.

In may, we successfully refinanced, our credit facility, securing 650 million in total capacity.

This includes a $500 million revolving credit facility.

Of which $50 million was drawn at close.

And had drawn Term Loan facility of 150 million.

The refinancing extends the duration of our available liquidity and provides more flexibility to support our long-term growth.

As of June 30th, we have approximately $694 million in total liquidity.

Consisting of 254 million in cash.

And 440 million in our undrawn revolver.

During the quarter, we increased our net cash position by approximately 19 million, which was driven by strong cash flow from operations.

With a solid cash position on our balance sheet and enhanced liquidity through our recently refinanced credit facility.

We are well positioned to pursue our growth with great confidence.

in Q2, our average capex per shop declined, approximately 15% from q1 levels to approximately 1.4 million,

Demonstrating the progress, we continue to make in transitioning. Our portfolio to more Capital efficient build the suit lease Arrangements.

Turning over to guidance in light of our recent strong business performance. We are raising our full year guidance for total revenues.

System. Same shop, sales growth and adjusted. Evita.

Total revenues are now projected to be between 1.59 billion and 1.6 billion.

System. Same shop. Sales growth is now expected to be 4.5%.

Adjusted ebitda is now estimated to be between 285 million and 290 million.

There are no changes to our guidance for total system shop openings and capital expenditures.

We continue to expect to open at least 160 new shops.

Representing 16% system shop growth.

Capital expenditures remain within our estimated range of 20040 to 260 million.

Primarily made up of new shop construction costs.

We are excited by our business momentum and maintain strong visibility into our multi-year growth runway.

We are very well positioned to continue. Delivering incredible results backed by our robust, 4-wall shop economic model and exceptional unit, level returns.

Thank you, everyone. We will now take your questions.

Operator, please open the lines.

Thank you. We will now be conducting.

A quest.

Do you think speaking equipment and maybe necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star star keys? In the interest of time, please limit to 1 question.

First question comes from Andy barish with Jeffrey's. Please go ahead.

Yeah. Hey guys. Um just wondering on the um the cpg strategy for next year is that kind of going to roll out in newer markets or any you know just any color on on how you um you expect that to um um you know to go forward in 2026 to support you know, growing brand awareness.

Great. Thanks for the question, Andy. Uh, so as we look at the cpg roll out, um, we're focused on areas where we have shops, uh, so we want to introduce our customers, uh, to the brand through the shops first and, um, we'll have we'll be rolling out, uh, cpg in the markets where we have shops. And as we look at, um, how that rollout will go, um, it's a little bit aligned, depending on where the resets are, um, by each retailer. Uh, but we would expect to start seeing, uh, some early rollout in, uh, q1 of 26 with kind of a more substantial, roll out through the rest of the year. Uh, we're really excited, uh, by what we're hearing so far. I think the excitement in this market, uh, for having a new brand with a lot of energy,

Behind it uh is something that we're really uh, it's being reflected in those conversations that we're having with retailers.

Thank you. Next question. Sharon Zakia with William Blair, please go ahead.

Hi. Thanks for taking the question and congratulations to you and the team on really good results. Again, this quarter. Um, I know you're doing a lot of work on speed and throughput and I'm sure that's manifesting some and these results were seen and I know you mentioned, labor deployment and and ongoing initiatives. There can you kind of give us an update on where you are on speed and throughput, maybe some metrics and what you're finding to be the best. Um, levers to pull to improve that further. Thank you.

Yeah, so I would describe where we are on throughput is we are still working on some basic blocking and tackling and I think we have a long Runway ahead of us, uh, from a throughput perspective. Uh, 1 of the things we're really encouraged by is if you look at those results in Q2 led by that 3.7% transaction growth, that is really everything working in concert and 1 of the most important areas is really that labor deployment. Um, so some of what we're seeing there is we roll out a new lto, just having great training. Making sure our teams are really well staffed against demand as we do. Special merch drops and sticker drops. Those are focused on different parts of the day. So our

Teams ability to really understand where we're going to see those demands match, our staffing against it so that we can really provide exceptional service is 1 of the things. I'm most excited about, um, that I'm seeing from a throughput perspective. Uh, We've also rolled out speed dashboards. And, uh, this is 1 of our first times that our teams get to see, uh, in a very easy way, how am I doing right now? How did I do on my best weekend or my best hour? And, uh, can I motivate and drive the team to see if we can deliver 1 extra smile during that time? Period? So that's, those are the primary things we're doing right now. And I think it's really neat to see just, um, how well the team is doing with labor deployment and ensuring that we're staffed really well, uh, to meet those High Peaks, um, especially during some of those merch drops.

Thank you.

Brian Harbor with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

you know, obviously as you mentioned

Activity remains, very good. Um, you talk, you know about I guess some of the market specifics that you're seeing there. And as you know, is it still your expectation that uh that holds up quite well into the second half of this year?

next question, Christine Cho with Goldman Sachs

Yes, thank you. Uh, congrats on a great quarter. Uh, you've really LED innovation in protein coffee and customized energy drinks, but it seems like some of your competitors are trying to catch up. Um, could you help us understand how you prioritize Investments, and allocate resources across the across your beverage and food platforms, kind of to maintain that, um, competitive advantage and what framework guides your decisions when identifying some of the new white space opportunities. Thank you.

Yes. So as we look at Innovation it's really this cool mix of Art and Science. I think it is understanding what is going on more broadly in the market where there might be an idea that could work with our customers. Then we do a series of testing where we bring in, uh, some, uh, a customer panel and we'll have them try different things. We'll also do name testing, concept, testing, so we bring some science in to see how we're doing and then as things start to make it through that process. We'll even do some Market testing just to really understand what is the best way in. As we look at Innovation, I think the other thing that we're really focused on is our customers are drinking across platforms and I think that the growth in the beverage uh Market is really being driven across various different platforms. So for us.

Were really simultaneously trying to understand, you know, what is going on in the coffee Market? With like the introduction of protein or what is, what are we going to do next on the protein side? We're also looking at customized energy. Uh, what is the way to ensure that our customers really understand the breadth of the offering? Their what are some drinks that we can highlight to really drive that? And then we'll also have in uh innovation in um some of our sparkling beverages our fizzes and we can pop that throughout the quarter in different ways, both through ltos um, and through bringing in secret, menu items or showcasing a part of the menu over the weekend.

Next question, Logan Reich with RBC Capital markets. Please go ahead.

Hey, good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question, and congrats on the, on the solid print. I just got a question on the, uh, mobile Order, Mix. It was looks like it's up 50 basis points. Uh, this quarter versus about 300 last quarter. I know there's going to be some sort of tapering off on the ramp but just longer term. Where do you see that? Mix getting to, I don't know if you have like an internal Target or expectation, but just trying to get a sense of the ramp over the next uh several hours in the more mix.

Yeah, we feel really good about where mobile order is. And I think, especially with how our teams are embracing it and how our customers are embracing mobile order. Uh, so the, the 11.5%, uh, is really, uh, where we would expect it to be. I think, if you look across our system, we do have some of our newer markets that are double that mix and part of the overall mix that we look at is really driven by just kind of the historical setup of some of our shops. Um, as a reminder, uh, we've been around for over 30 years and a lot of our original shops are double drive-throughs. And so kind of that speed of mobile order and being able to go to the walk-up window, you know, just does isn't quite as the same thing as in some of our newer markets where we've got that walk up window Channel. Um, 1 of the things we have seen and it was something that we were trying to do is that walk up window Channel. Now represents approximately 15% of the mix when we

Started out on the mobile order Journey, it was about 10% and so really being able to balance that demand between those 2 Windows is working incredibly well for us.

Next question, Andrew Charles with TD cow and please go ahead.

Great. Thank you. Um, Christine thanks for sharing the details, the expanded food tests and the positive learnings you're seeing so far from the pilot. You know, I'm curious with all the positive details, what's driving, the decision, to roll, this out throughout 2026 rather than all at once.

To our shops, uh, we're putting ovens into our shops, we're putting in, um, different racks and things that make it really easy for our teams to execute on the Food business. And so, just the physical part of putting that into the shops, uh, will will happen over time. The other piece is, is we bring food in, uh, we are working with each of our Distributors and each of our markets to ensure that, you know, we're really rolling this out in the correct way. Um, so we are just incredibly pleased with what we're seeing. We feel really good about the training Cadence that we're establishing. Um, as we roll out into markets and then we're also ensuring that we're testing the food business, you know, across a lot of different parameters. Um, so this move in, you know, starting in the market in Arizona and then going into some of our newest markets uh with food and seeing the results that we're seeing. We're just incredibly pleased um kind of at the as we expand this under different circumstances to continue to see

Be really great results.

David Tarantino with bear, please go ahead.

Hi. Um,

Good afternoon. Uh, I had a question about maybe clarifying, what you're seeing so far in Q3 Josh, I think you guided to Q3 comps of

3 and a half to 4, but you indicated that you entered the quarter with good momentum. So I just wanted to understand if

If, if you're running, um, you know, in a way that's ahead of that guidance, and you're, you're planning your Marketing in a way that maybe you expected to settle for the rest of the quarter. And then, I guess the second and bigger follow-up for Christine would be, um, if marketing is working which it seems like it is generating a really good return for the business. Why not lean in a bit more, um, to keep that momentum going? So thank

Ya David. So, I'll take this, I'll take the first part of the question there. Um, and you know, just to highlight Q2, we felt really good about our performance overall. So a really strong underlying transaction Trends. And then, on top of that, had some just incredible, promotional activities. Stricker drops, merch drops, lto offerings, that really just drove out outperformance. I would really describe Q2 as firing on all cylinders really outperforming our expectations. So, you know, as we move into July, we saw that underlying traffic Trend continue. So we saw a really strong Health in our customer there as we as we move into Q3 um and you know, as we think forward I think we have a lot of great initiatives planned for marketing. For the balance of the year, we we would plan those at a more normalized run rate.

And expect those to, you know, do well. But at a, at a More normalized, Level certainly wouldn't plan for them just to knock it out of the park, like they did in in Q2. So, have have a really good sense and, and feeling for the momentum coming in in through Q3 and, and off to a great start, the performance. We've seen through July is certainly factored into the guidance range that we provided for Q3.

Yeah. And for the second uh, part of your question on.

Marketing and leaning.

Good about how the business is performing right now. Um, July was another great month for us and it's, we look at marketing, I think that there is this very thoughtful and delicate, mix of making sure that our customers love what we're doing, and it also does not become too predictable. And so if you think about all of the different ways that, um, we are, we are speaking to our customers or sharing new ideas with them with merch drops with sticker drops with points days, we really want to make sure that it is that right balance of those things. And uh we feel like we're in a really good Cadence right now, but want to make sure that we we aren't doing, uh, so much that the business becomes predictable or that is not as fun as it is right now.

Next question. Dennis Geiger with UBS.

Great, thanks and congratulations. Uh, just 1 follow up on on mobile order. Um as it relates or 2 part on mobile order as it relates to to the the mixed piece Christine is is it um, something where maybe you you lean in on marketing. A bit more to highlight the mobile order Dynamic to, to kind of increase or or accelerate that adoption, or are you pretty comfortable with the adoption that you're seeing. And the second part of, of the mobile question really is, is that, you know, that contributing to the transaction growth encouraging to hear that. Could you unpack that a little bit? Is that a throughput benefit? Is it? You know, repeat customers coming more because of the experience, any any kind of unpacking of of of How It's driving the transaction growth would be great. Thank you.

I think that if uh, if you look at what we're trying to do 1, this was the number 1 thing that our customers were asking for through the app. So it was really a customer-driven um Innovation. The other piece is we were trying to balance some of the demand, um, across the shop, uh, which is, which is working quite well and then to drive transactions. Um, so we are seeing a, a frequency lift as customers come in and use mobile order. And we are also seeing that strength in the morning Day part. Um, and I think if you look at where we had um, untapped demand, in that morning, Day part. It was both the lack of having mobile order and the lack of having protein-based, food options that were really highlights and where some of those bigger opportunities are for us in the morning Day part. And so we're, we're seeing that very much play out uh, with mobile order. What we're doing is we continue to look at um, you know, how how we drive mobile order, it needs to really be driven by our

Customers this needs to be how they want to order. And so we're continuing to make the app and the order process easy. Uh, we're continuing to do surveys every week. Just to understand. Are we meeting? Uh, our customers are there their time, expectations. Do we have the menu items on the app that they want to have? So all of those things are working quite well and we're getting continuous feedback and so we're really focused on just providing an absolutely exceptional customer experience through mobile order.

And are very happy with this slow and steady approach, that's working well for our teams.

Next question, Sarah Senator, with Bank of America, please go ahead.

Uh, thank you. Um, I guess 1 house in and then uh a question. The housekeeping is I just want to make sure um I Heard right about pricing. So like 2 and a half points of price I guess would imply perhaps um slightly negative mix so. So just wanted to confirm that and then my question is I think Josh mentioned, you know how the maturation of new vintages has been contributing or fueling the um transaction growth. So I I wanted to understand is there some kind of maturity curve that you're seeing? Now that, you know, as you think about, you know, growing restaurants you get sort of a Tailwind just from that maturity curve or was that rather a reference to, you know, maybe perhaps some of the more recent vintages that may be opened at lower auvs. Um, you know, 22 23 are seeing outside benefits from, you know, from the advertising. Uh, just because I know, you know, Christine you said everything's working together but it, it does seem like there's a step change. Thanks.

Yeah, thanks. Thanks, Sarah for the question on on your housekeeping. You're right there. There's a slight offset with mix. We've historically seen that in items for transaction that and that's continued through um through Q2. Um you know as as you think about the newer vintages I would I would broadly answer your question as yes. We we're seeing performance from some of those um older vintages that are not sorry older but the

More recent vintages that we've opened in in new markets in even some of the, the few years ago, openings, as well. We're seeing strength across the board. So we've had really strong, um, comp performance coming out of all the new vintages both from the maturation curve and, um, and and those that we opened several years ago, so feel really good about the the strength really seeing it across all cohorts. It's just even stronger in those newer cohorts. Yeah, and I, I would add, we continue to focus. Um, more of our paid marketing, spend into those newer markets, and that really is, um, helping to continue to, uh, to to grow the brand and to build brand awareness. If you think about kind of the Dutch Rewards program and paid marketing, they're really working in concert together. So, we're using that paid advertising, uh, to build the brand awareness to bring customers into the brand for the first time. Then we want them to experience the brand and very quickly. Join our Dutch Rewards program. So they we have that very easy channel to talk to them. Share with them all the new news that's coming.

Thanks.

Next question, John ivanco with JP Morgan.

Um, hi, thank you. I I wanted to revisit, uh, you know, the marketing question and if you could remind me or tell me, uh, you know, what marketing is, is a percentage of sales, 25 versus 24, for example. And you know, how high could we take that? I mean, some companies, for example, spend 4% of system sales on marketing. I don't know if that's a magic number.

The company was just more aggregate dollars to spend. Thank you.

Yeah, thanks John. So, we haven't given the specific total kind of holistic marketing budget, as a percent of sales. Our footnotes do disclose advertising which is a smaller piece of that of that total. Um, what I would say is, we have continued to lean into marketing efforts is, you know, as we've talked about last year and into this year, um, just given the performance we've seen from that. We we do continue to lean into marketing. I'd say we're generally probably on the lower end of of how weathers might spend as a total percent of Revenue. So I think we have, um, a lot of strength in it and efficiency we see from the marketing dollars that we spend, um, spend today. I'll I'll let Christine kind of talked about the the second part of your question there.

Yeah. And and John what I would add to that is is I do think that it is an area that we continue to look at, you know, given what we are seeing, we're continuing to test new ways, understanding, if if more spend, um, would would make a difference. Um, and what I would share is, I just think some of the things that we're doing with merch drops and, and really the, the earned, uh, kind of reach that we're getting from all of the other activities that we're doing. That's performing so well that we haven't seen the need to, you know, to to increase that marketing spend too much further right now it is something we will continue to monitor. Um, but again I I think that the team is just doing an incredible job of having everything work really well together and then I would also highlight I think that if you look at how strong the Dutch Rewards

Program is having 72% of our total transactions going through that program. The success that we are seeing and getting new shops, and new customers really quickly ramped up in Dutch rewards. Um, is really allowing us to be super efficient with our marketing resources. And so, I think that, that is something that's really unique to us with the strength of that program. And we would prefer always to just talk directly to our customers. And so, um, very, very pleased with what we've been seeing in Dutch rewards and, um, the what the team is doing to, you know, continue to just, um, segment our customer base further, uh, talk to customers, uh, in unique ways, depending on their patterns. So, really excited by what we're seeing there. And I think that allows us to be super efficient with our marketing spend

Thank you.

Next question, Chris. Okay, call with stifel

Hey thanks. Good afternoon and congrats on a great quarter. Um, Christine I I I guess I also had a follow-up question on marketing and it may just be me. But I, I've noticed fewer email offers from the company as a quarter of progress, just given the strength of the sales Trend. Have you, do you think you're, I mean, or have you been able to pull back on some of the marketing and offers and save them for a later? Time is just the benefit of the advertising of the past, several quarters builds. And I was also hoping you could, maybe elaborate on the awareness.

Study, maybe the time frame and magnitude of the Improvement in aided and unaided awareness.

Yeah, thanks Chris. So specifically on Dutch rewards. I think more of what you're seeing right now is our segmentation and um, and so we're a year ago, we were doing primarily just Mass offers everyone receiving the same thing. The team has made just incredible progress in starting to really segment the customer base, send out specific offers, um, to specific individuals depending on their patterns. And so I think that that's actually more of of what you're seeing. As you as you look at the activity, overall.

And then your, what was your second question, Chris. I was just hoping you could elaborate on the awareness or the awareness of the time. Yeah, the time frame and magnitude of the Improvement. You, you mentioned.

I looked for him. Yeah, so it's—look at the awareness study, where that's something that we're doing right now on an annual basis. Um, so that we can really see movements and what's happening there. So, we're looking at where we stand from an aided and unaided awareness. We haven't shared, um, you know, the exact improvements there, but we are seeing quite material improvements, um, especially in some of those new markets.

Great, thanks.

Thank you. Next question. Jacob Aken, Phillips with melia's research. Please go ahead.

Yeah, good afternoon. Um, so another marketing question.

Funnel paid advertising, you're doing.

Yeah. So on the Dutch rewards I would say we are still in early Innings of the segmentation. Um, in addition to segmentation, uh, we are also looking at, you know, what is the right functionality to have in in the app? Uh, what are some things we can do, uh, to make to make some of those rewards offers even more fun. Um, some of some of it, that can make it more social, things like that. So I think that they're the team has a lot of plans uh, to continue expanding and Dutch rewards, continue making that an even more fun experience for our customers. Um, and then as we compare like top of funnel marketing, and how we think about that, um, really I think it's, it's the separation of those 2 channels. And thinking through that the paid advertising is more to build brand awareness and brand awareness, that can drive some action. So this what is Dutch Bros? What are those offerings that we have? So you might have driven past a shop, seen the windmill. Now you see the advertising.

And you kind of connect what that shop is with what we serve and that can drive your first visit and we find once we get customers in for that first visit, they're oftentimes coming back so it really is focused on driving kind of the that first visitor too. And then we focus at the shop level uh and making sure that you're aware that we have Dutch rewards so that we can get you into that program.

Next question, Gregory Frankfurt with open high Partners. Please go ahead.

Hey, thanks for the question. Um, Christine, I think you guys are now entering some markets, um, where in this kind of maybe smaller format coffee box. Your second rather than first and I guess I'm curious. How do you approach those differently? Um, and do, do you ramp the same way? I guess, I'm just curious as you look at the rest of the country and kind of the need to be first or second or third in some of these markets, just just how that might play out differently. Thanks.

Yeah, thanks for the question Greg. And so, you know, I I do think every Market that we enter for sure has a coffee shop in it and, uh, and so I think, as, as you look at, uh, where we enter, there might be other sorts of new competitors. Things like that. It is something that we look at closely. Um, what we are increasingly finding, is that when we come into a market, customers know who we are, it doesn't really matter, uh, what order we're entering a market in, um, and the lines that we are seeing in our new shop openings, uh, the excitement for the brand, uh, really continues to build. It's something that, you know, as I look at this brand past a thousand shops, to see the lines actually building. As we scale is just a really, really encouraging thing to see as we go. Um, and so I just I feel like the brand

Is in such a great place. I think that um our customers um are potential new customers, uh really understand uh what Dutch Bros is they build that excitement. They're driving from long distances to come to those first shop openings in an area. You know, as I mentioned at the start of the start of the Q&A uh to have our top performing shop last week was in Georgia. Uh which is a new market absolutely amazing. So really, really cool to see the strength of the brand.

Thank you.

Next question, Brian. Mullen with Piper Sandler.

Hey thanks. Um, wanted to come back to the the food test. You know, you've talked about having a few important goals with this, you know, broista satisfaction, not disrupting throughput, you know, minimizing complexity, you know, and then having the right.

Assortment to make sure you satisfy the food but but get that beverage occasion. So question is, you know as you go through the tests and evaluate through the lens of each of your goals

Which one is proving to be maybe a little more seamless or easy? And then maybe on a relative basis, is anything proving to be a little more challenging or taking longer? Any thoughts on that would be great.

I think we've got the assortment just right? And it is a, as we've shared it's an assortment of just 8 items, so makes it really simple for our teams and I think very easy for our customers to understand and and know that there's this assortment that they can order from and it matches the beverages that they're ordering. So we're really pleased with what we're seeing from a food perspective. Um, across the board, the other piece that, that, um, that we just shared was, we are seeing, um, a ticket lift as well, uh, in early days and a transaction lift. And so, seeing that transaction lift, um, really validates what we thought we would see in the morning that our customers, um, will sometimes share with us that they love us, but might go somewhere else because they want that food in the morning. And so now that having food and those test markets, seeing that little bit of transaction, lift is something we're incredibly encouraged by

Jeffrey Bernstein with barklay, please. Go ahead.

Great, thank you very much.

Christine, uh,

I do hate to ask this question, but it is a, it is a compliment as you are firing on all cylinders. And so early in attacking the Tam,

I think you mentioned 160 units this year 16% growth.

but when I think about that growth the new and existing markets seem to be doing well,

You've got 450 or more candidates ready to lead.

I think Josh you mentioned that the capex to build is ease. Pretty significantly over the past quarter or 2. It would seems like the opportunity to accelerate would be prime being more on offense versus defense in such a competitive category. I'm just wondering what would keep you from ramping up whether it's the growth this year or how you think about the pipeline for next year. Again, it just seems like all things are working for you. This would seem to be the time unless there are some gating factors that maybe we don't fully appreciate. Thank you.

Yeah, no thanks so much for the question, and we feel really good about where we are. We have continued to build out, uh, the real estate team. We are really excited about getting to that 2029 and 2029. And I think that the steps that we took, uh, 2 years ago, um, to really get us into this position where we can continue to accelerate the growth. We're incredibly important and are playing out in such a great way. So, you know, we wanted to focus on Market planning, we're seeing those elevated. Uh, auvs in those new shops, we wanted to focus on, uh, building out but in a more Capital, efficient way. We are seeing those reductions in capex, as we open the new shops, uh, we wanted to get our teams really ready to open those new shops, ensure that we had a marketing plan.

Quickly build brand awareness so that we could open out of the gate really strong, and we're seeing that as well. So, as we look across all of those things that we went and said, "Hey, we would love to make a little bit of a tweak here," we're actually now seeing results across all of those areas, and I think we're in just a great place to continue to accelerate our growth.

Next question. Jeff farmer with Gordon haskett. Please go ahead. Um, thank you. Uh, consumers, increase. Focus on value, has has come up, I would say on almost every call over this earning season. So

with that is sort of the lead in. I'm curious what your thoughts are on. Dutch Brothers, sort of value positioning or offering and how you guys are competing for those customers who are looking for Value. So clearly you're doing well, but I am curious, how you're you're competing for those customers who are looking for Value right now.

So we think we're in a fantastic position from a value proposition perspective. This is something we continue to test and Survey with our customers. Uh we've been very thoughtful, we've taken very minimal price this year. I think that that has put us in a fantastic position and it's something that we would want to continue to be a leader in. Um I think our customers really appreciate the sizes that we have. I think they appreciate the ability uh to really customize freely uh within their Beverages. And um and we feel like we have the formula, right? To really be delivering.

On what the customer expects. And I think you add to that that when you come through our drive-thru lane, you just leave in such a great place. You leave with your day being a little bit brighter, and I think that's ultimately what customers are looking for in this market.

All right, thank you. I appreciate it.

Thank you.

I would like to turn the floor over to Christine Veyron for closing remarks.

In support of this event, the Dutch Bros Foundation donated, $1 million to the muscular dystrophy Association. Our longstanding partner in the fight against ALS

In the quarter, many of our shops also held local give-back days, each driven by the passion and energy of our crews.

The heart of Dutch Bros remains unchanged moments like drink 1 for Dane, reflect our commitment, to community impact connection and purpose-driven, growth and value that have guided us since 1992.

I want to thank our teams who may drink 1 for Dame de and all of our local gift backs, truly special.

Your efforts allow us to keep showing up for our customers and communities in meaningful ways every single day. Thank you.

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