Q2 2025 Cresco Labs Inc Earnings Call
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Speaker #2: Thank you . Good morning , and welcome to Cresco Labs second quarter 2020 earnings conference call . On the call today , we have Chief Executive Officer and Co-Founder , Charles Bachtell , Chief Financial Officer Sharon Schuler and President Greg Butler , who will be available for the Q&A .
Speaker #2: Prior to this call , we issued our second quarter earnings press release , which has been filed on Cd-R and is available on our Investor Relations website .
Speaker #2: These preliminary results for the second quarter are provided prior to completion of all internal and external reviews , and therefore are subject to adjustment until the filing of our company's quarterly financial statements .
Speaker #2: We plan to file our corresponding financial statements and NDA for the quarter ended June 30th , 2025 on Sedar and Edgar later today .
Speaker #2: Before we begin , I want to remind you that statements made on today's call may contain forward looking information . Actual results may differ materially .
Speaker #2: The risks , uncertainties and other factors that could influence actual results are described in our earnings press release and in the most recent annual information form in Indiana , filed with the securities regulators .
Speaker #2: This call also contains non-GAAP measures , also outlined in our earnings press release and filed with the securities regulators . Please also note that all financial information on today's call is presented in US dollars , and all interim financial information is unaudited .
Speaker #2: With that , I'll turn the call over to Charlie .
Speaker #3: Good morning , everybody , and thank you for joining us on our Q2 earnings call . We're pleased to be here and share the strategic steps we're taking to position Cresco Labs for this next phase of the cannabis industry , where consolidation is inevitable and the winning operators have the balance sheet , cash flow and capabilities to capitalize on the moment .
Speaker #3: Q2 is a steady and productive quarter for Cresco . Operationally , we maintained our momentum and defended our retail and wholesale market shares in what remains an incredibly competitive environment .
Speaker #3: Strategically , we made critical decisions to reinforce our balance sheet and free up capital and hone in on new paths to growth . In Q2 , we delivered $164 million in revenue in line with guidance and consistent with Q1 levels , reflecting our ability to counteract price compression through increased unit volumes in both retail and wholesale segments .
Speaker #3: We generated $83 million in adjusted gross profit and $41 million in adjusted EBITDA as we continue to stack efficiency gains . Our second quarter cash flow from operations was $9 million .
Speaker #3: The cannabis sector is approaching an inflection point . The operating and regulatory environments are pushing many operators to downsize significantly , particularly those lacking scale or carrying excessive debt .
Speaker #3: This means we're seeing a growing number of distressed assets , receiverships and consolidation opportunities across the industry . We've been talking about this likely outcome for several quarters , and the trend will only accelerate from here .
Speaker #3: We see this as an incredible opportunity for Cresco . We remain committed to profitability and cash flow , but Q2 and Q3 also marks a step change in preparing Cresco Labs to be the partner of choice for industry consolidation .
Speaker #3: The shift is proving even more important as competition in our core footprint increases and we set our sights on new expansion markets . Now , I'll walk through how we're thinking about this next phase .
Speaker #3: First and foremost , our number one priority continues to be maintaining a solid balance sheet with a strong cash position . To that end , I'm thrilled to announce we've signed a letter of commitment to refinance our debt , and we'll be closing on or around August 13th .
Speaker #3: We've opted to refinance $325 million of our debt while paying down the remaining $35 million. This pushes our maturity date out to August of 2030.
Speaker #3: We're proud that we secured such favorable terms because they're a direct result of the discipline we've infused in every part of our business over the past two years.
Speaker #3: We streamlined operations , made difficult calls like tightening credit sales , and embedded a cash flow first mindset in every part of the organization .
Speaker #3: Beyond refinancing , we're continuing to strengthen our balance sheet and improve cash flow through ongoing are management and restructuring initiatives . One of these initiatives is our plan to exit the California market .
Speaker #3: While we're grateful for everything our California team has given Cresco Labs , including the Oracle brand and our quality at scale approach to cultivation , but the state structural challenges have made it too difficult to generate sustainable profits .
Speaker #3: Stepping away will strengthen our margin profile , unlock resources that can be funneled into new growth , and bring our footprint in line with our long term strategic direction .
Speaker #3: Second , our focused footprint uniquely positions us to win with organic growth from our core markets and growth potential from target expansion markets .
Speaker #3: Everything we're doing is aimed at building the most productive , profitable , and cash generating footprint possible , one that can seamlessly integrate new states and assets .
Speaker #3: As previously stated , we will be opportunistic while being patient and disciplined in our capital allocation , prioritizing high return organic growth and M&A opportunities .
Speaker #3: We have ample organic growth opportunities materializing in the quarters ahead . For example , in Ohio , we're on track to open three new dispensaries before the end of Q1 26 , the first of which opens in early fall .
Speaker #3: Building on our number one retail share and number three branded product share in the state , in Kentucky is a first mover . We're making great progress on our cultivation buildout this quarter .
Speaker #3: We executed an MSA with a Kentucky processing partner , an exciting milestone that will enable us to bring our full suite of branded products to patients .
Speaker #3: We're on track to have our first product in market in early 2026 . In Pennsylvania , we're building on the strength of our number one branded share and fourth largest retail footprint ahead of adult use conversion .
Speaker #3: In this $2 billion market , we opened our 18th dispensary in the state in May , and we recently turned on our Mount Joy cultivation facility .
Speaker #3: With this added capacity , we're positioned to lead on pricing , drive volume growth and capture additional market share regardless of the adult use timeline .
Speaker #3: With organic growth in hand , we've been waiting patiently for the right opportunities to take on capital efficient M&A . As expected , we're seeing more distressed assets for sale across the target markets such as new Jersey and Maryland , where one of the few operators without overlapping operations and license cap constraints in these markets , giving us a competitive and compelling long term growth story .
Speaker #3: Importantly , we know that once we acquire assets , we accelerate their performance . Take Pennsylvania , where we acquired a small dispensary group in 2024 .
We've been playing the long game to create scalable stable growth with our debt refinancing behind us, we're on the office, executing on organic initiatives, while building a targeted pipeline of m&a opportunities in profitable, strategic markets, that strategy is supported by a meaningful white space. In our footprint, with several high priority States. Still untapped giving us a long runway for expansion.
With that, I'll turn it over to Sharon to walk you through our Q2 performance in more detail.
Thank you, Charlie, and good morning. Everyone. As Charlie mentioned, this was a steady quarter operationally, we remain focused on cash flow over Topline growth in our decision-making.
As a result we reported 164 million in Revenue. Representing a 1%. Sequential decline from q1. This modest decrease was primarily due to continued price compression in our Illinois, retail operations.
Wholesale Revenue was flat as we stayed disciplined in our. Our strategy prioritizing creditworthy accounts and forgoing sales that carried repayment risk
We delivered strong margin and cost performance. This quarter supported in part by a couple of favorable items that reflected great execution, but are not expected to repeat going forward.
Adjusted gross margin came in just shy of 51% up 124 basis points. Essentially, we benefited from selling through lower cost of good product in Illinois, driven by stronger yields in Prior quarters.
Um, on the cost side, our team continued to execute well and made progress across multiple areas. Notably, we recovered approximately $1 million in previously reserved bad debt, which contributed to the $3 million sequential reduction in adjusted SG&A, bringing the total to $50 million. Our accounts receivable balance is down 23% since the start of the year, a clear sign of our policy around credit risk and the much higher yields of connectivity we've created between sales and finance teams.
across the business. We continue identifying and capturing small operational efficiencies in addition, strong execution. This quarter led to a few unique wins that Walnut expected to reoccur contributed meaningfully to our bottom line together. These factors supported 41 million in adjusted Eva. Representing 25% of Revenue.
In Q2 we generated 9 million in operating cash flow and invested 13 million in capital expenditures. We ended the quarter with a cash balance of 147 million.
As Charlie mentioned, the most significant Milestone is we've signed our commitment letter to refinance our debt.
We replaced our prior loan with a new 325 million, senior secured Term Loan, maturing in 2030, at a 12 and a half percent interest rate.
Remains highly constrained.
In an environment marked by tightening Credit in over 2 billion in Industry, debt maturities on the horizon, our ability to secure long-term financing without Equity Solutions. Reinforces the strength of our business model and balance sheet.
Completing this refinancing allows us to shift fully onto offense and take advantage of the consolidation opportunities ahead. You can expect us to take a balanced approach investing in smart, capex pursuing, a creative m&a, and could continue to drive operational. Efficiencies and disciplined growth all while maintaining a strong balance sheet.
Looking ahead to Q3. We expect Revenue to remain roughly in line with Q2 increase cultivation capacity in Illinois will help offset.
Price compression across several of our markets.
Further out, new dispensary openings in Ohio and expanded production in, Pennsylvania are expected to provide additional Tailwind for Revenue growth. As the additional cultivation capacity, we brought online in the first half ramped up, they will support our efforts to defend gross margin in the challenging price environment. However, in the near term, we expect some margin drag in Q3 and Q4, as we sell through initial Harvest, which typically come with lower yields and lower utilization. Our Focus remains on optimizing output from our fixed asset base to preserve as much gross profit as possible.
On the expense side, our commitment to continuous Improvement is driving Real Results. We're consistently capturing small efficiencies that compound over time and help fund strategic Investments for growth.
We're excited to enter the back half of 2025, and push into 2026 with more flexibility as we find New Growth, while keeping focused on profitability and cash generation with that. I'll pass it back to Charlie.
Thank you, Sharon.
The Cannabis industry is entering a new phase to find by consolidation and rationalization. We anticipated this shift where many operators are being forced to scale back or exit and more m&a opportunities exist than ever.
With our proven operating model focused and productive footprint and clean capital structure. We're built for this moment and we're well, positioned to be the company of choice as this industry. Consolidates
I want to thank the Cresco Labs team for their passion and continued commitment to grind Drive cash flow and capturing high margin growth.
Thank you for your time today. We look forward to sharing our continued progress in the quarters ahead.
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Our first question today comes from Aaron Gray with AGP.
Aaron, please go ahead.
Good morning and thank you very much for the question. Um uh congrats first and foremost on the debt. Refinancing um my name is for lock a lot of work into that. Um,
So you've done well in terms of optimizing the portfolio as demonstrated by the healthy margins, with the rationalized footprint, and with the debt refinancing now, you know, behind you, your better position to capitalize on growth opportunities as you outlined. You know, getting more on the offensive.
Uh, just maybe some more color in terms of, you know, the m&a opportunities that you've mentioned, you made it clear that you're going to be prudent in strategic in that. So without tipping the hat too much. Maybe some color in terms of, you know, where you're seeing some of those attractive opportunities today, whether they're seeing it more. So in terms of deepening within some of the existing markets we don't have the feeling as you mentioned um or if there are in New Markets uh that you're not currently in right now. So any color that you're seeing that will be helpful. Thank you.
Thanks. Good morning Aaron. Um, you know, look our footprint. We've we've, we've discussed it, uh, over the past few few calls, our footprint, has some great white space opportunities for us to get into markets that we are not in that. Um, most if not all of our peers are already in and you can look at Maryland, you can look at New Jersey, you can look at Connecticut. Um, there's there's just some really good opportunities for us to expand the footprint into, uh, states that have a good regulatory structures that also create good economic profiles. And so we've worked real hard to put ourselves in a position to have the resources to be acquisitive. Um while at the same time, definitely challenging ourselves to be patient and disciplined uh as we evaluate those with this sort of the recent more recent
Forward to evaluating them and and making some good strategic decisions.
Thanks appreciate that. Call over there Charlie. Um, certain questions for me just in terms of broader for the category, you know, volumes remain, healthy pricing pressure continues to offset that you know, not flowing through the sales. Are you starting to see these signs of stabilization or maybe acceleration in the pricing pressure and you do, do you see any risk that worsening? You know, as operators have that coming to and may not have the same ability to successfully refinance so you know any color commentary and you're seeing on volumes and how you're expecting the price and pressure of moving forward. Thank you.
Yeah, we think your pricing pressure, is a reality of of the industry that we're in, especially as we, we also have, um, competitions and it is state by state, so whether or not there's a, um, um, a more aggressive, um, um, priced State nearby, that becomes an alternative for a consumer or um, as you look at THC based on products there's competition. That's come into this industry that's enhanced and and really increased the pricing pressure. We we're operating the organization in a way that is preparing ourselves to be competitive, um, in the event that that continues, we're not, we're not banking on there, being a change there. So we're taking the steps that we need to on the cost side of our business, to make sure that we can stay competitive, and, and maintain those market shares, and that productivity. Um,
We we definitely also again look at it on a state-by-state basis. So there's there's differences as you look across markets, um Greg and the additional color. Know I'd say the answer to 1 of your questions there and good morning.
Um we are prices are still seeing declines. I would say the rate of decline though has started to, to flatten in most of our core markets. So we're we're down for a recorded year-over-year but from a rate perspective that will slow down, so maybe that's 1 that encouraging thing. You're not on this negative slope. Uh, the second thing that we're seeing is, yes, there's price compression but a lot of retailers including ourselves have been able to build off price compression because we've been able to, um, keep our baskets, uh, larger Baskets at a lower price per unit and overall holding pricing. Now that comes a little bit at the expense of trips because people are loading up on products and they're having the homes. So, we're seeing less trips. So, really that strategy continued to work for us as long as these lower prices. Bring Shoppers into the stores. Um, and as you mentioned consumption is up. So people are consuming more cannabis
than we've seen before. But really the future outlook is at these lower prices. Can this help entice more Shoppers to come in? And if we're successful at doing that to Charlie's earlier comments, we'll be able to really um, hold at these lower prices.
That's really helpful car there and I'll go ahead and jump back to the queue.
Well, thanks Aaron.
Thank you. Our next question comes from Brianna cunnington with ATB capsule markets.
Please go ahead.
Hi, this is Brennan for Federico. Thanks for taking our questions and congrats on the results. This quarter.
Just looking at the margins. Good to see some sequential improvements there. But uh, you mentioned a margin Drake is expected in the second half of the year and it sounds like this, maybe temporary. So could you just provide some additional color on this?
I sure, this is Charlie. I'll start it off and then hand it to Sharon for some more detail. But
Yeah, but we're, we're, we're proud of the team for finding, uh, really operationally operational, execution, based, uh, Good Guys in Q2, it's nice to see. It's great execution. But as, as we had mentioned, in the back, half of the Year 1 of the 1 of the impacts of, uh, the Strategic decisions we made to bring on more capacity in markets like Illinois and Pennsylvania. Is that we've got this additional capacity now that, uh, in, you know, in the the initial, um, uh, yields that come out of any facility are are not optimized that that cost comes in in Q3 and Q4 as we sell through the product before it, it tends to normalize in the in the future quarters. Uh any additional cost.
Color there. Sure. Yeah. I mean just to kind of elaborate on that. I mean as we sell through that product, right, it'll be a bit of a drag on some of the margin going forward. Um, you know, obviously you will
Efficiencies to try to counter that but it's just a reality, will be facing in the back half.
okay, understood
and then, uh, regarding
could you provide a little bit more color on that and if there's the potential for further, improvements in the near charm,
Patrick Greg will lead this. Hey, good morning. Um, so we are really pleased that we're seeing in Florida. Um, really what helped us drive. That is the quality of the products that our teams are able to get out of our facility in the state. Um, and we are now even with a full outdoor Greenhouse, um,
facility. We are holding some great quality products that are very competitive in that market, um, competing against indoor products and high quality products in the state. So it's a big recognition for the hard work that our team is doing in that state, um, which has gotten us to where we are. And we think, you know, we're looking at our Q2 yields, we are encouraged by what we're seeing in Q2. Um, so it'll help us in the Q3. And we think that we are putting ourselves in that state in a very competitive assortment position and because it is a full vertical State. Obviously, it is based on the quality that our teams can bring to Market, um is what drives that assortment in our stores and that quality is continuing to show momentum
Great, thank you for that color. All hot back in the queue.
Thank you.
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Our next question comes from Pablo zanik with zanic Associates.
Pablo, please go ahead.
Good morning, everyone. This is Rahul on for Pablo, we have 2 questions. First, I know you touched on this just a little bit but with the potential for adult use sales in Pennsylvania, can you talk about any changes you've made in that state in terms of cultivation capacity, product assortment expansions or store relocations uh and refurbishing and the second question would be of all the states where you sell wholesale, which are the 2 States, where you have had to cut back on wholesaling due to worsening credit quality among uh, third-party retailers.
Uh, absolutely. Um
So as we look at the potential for Au and ta I will uh I'll try to hit on them in the order that you asked them but changes in capacity. We addressed yeah, we we brought on a secondary facility that we've we've had, um, and that we did not need the production out of until recently. So we've turned that on
Uh in 1H and uh that'll be fully utilized as we enter the back half of the Year here.
Uh, assortment strategy we've we've constantly. Uh, and it's a general across the footprint. All we focused on Innovation and bringing products to Market that the consumer wants, so it's no different in Pennsylvania. Um, fair to note though that without an au lobbying passed yet, there's still the same restrictions that apply to the, the product types that are available. There's medical program there.
Uh from a store location standpoint. I could tell you that the um
As far as a new opening new store openings, I'd say we've been focused on the potential for adult use in Pennsylvania for the last 18 months, 24 months. So new stores that we've brought online organically over that period of time. Have always had a focus on what would be not only useful in a medical program but also in an adult use scenario, um, Greg, anything else there. No, I would say what we were just saying is, um, in Pennsylvania. You have a lot of players and operators ramping up their production ahead of um adult use. So you are seeing a competitive more competitive Medical Market. Um but as Charlie mentioned with our supply coming online, it'll give us an opportunity to continue to lean in. On our pricing is today with the inventory to back it up to really be competitive and and move move the products in the state.
Second question with States. Um, where we we have, um, significant wholesale, presence, and whether or not we've had to, um, turn off, why did I continue with that? Uh, it really comes down to Tuesday through a major for us, we're watching. Um, Massachusetts, as you might expect any states that have a significant, uh, penetration of msos and Independence increases your risk, Massachusetts continues to be a tough Market. Um, from an our perspective, I think why you're seeing other operators, start to pull out, um, of the state. But we have really, and, and kudos to our team. Um, brought that state in line and re segmented all of our customers to make sure that we're putting products in customer stores that are, that are good pairs. Um, but we are also seeing it in States like Illinois. Um, where you had some increased activity, whether it's due to financial struggles, at some major outlets in the States but that has also, um, our decisions to not solve those customers may have impacted Revenue, but we
Got it. Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question.
Jesse petlac with call Mark.
Jesse, please go ahead.
Hey, good morning. Just a single question from me. Having just gone through the the debt refinancing process. Can you speak to how lenders are reviewing the the util liability and getting comfort with it?
Uh sure Sharon you want to hit this 1? Yeah, I mean so it's obviously something that we've had include right when we're looking at our different ratios with the lenders. Um, but I think there's also a comfort there that were, you know, our balance is not as high as some of our competitors. Um, we also have been, you know, very clear about what that number would look like over time. Um, so I think in the end it was something that they all were very comfortable with knowing where we were on our position and feeling very strongly that that would be 1, we handle
Thank you. It's all for me.
Thanks Jesse.
Thank you. At this time. We have no further questions and so I'll hand the call back to Charlie for closing comments.
Agree. Just again, really want to thank the the broader Cresco team, for the execution in the quarter, especially the team that was
Front and center on getting the refinance, uh, across the Finish Line. It really does, uh, put us in a, in a great position for the go forward here. Like I said, on the prepared remarks, we're built for this. Thanks everybody for uh, uh, joining the call today and we'll talk to you next quarter. Bye bye.
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