Q2 2025 GRAIL Inc Earnings Call

Speaker #1: Good Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the GRAIL second quarter 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.

Operator: Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the GRAIL second quarter 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that this conference call is being recorded. GRAIL Investor Relations, please begin.

Speaker #1: After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. Please be advised that this conference call is being recorded. GRAIL Investor Relations, please begin.

Speaker #2: Thanks, operator. And thanks to everyone for joining us today. On the call are Bob Ragusa, our Chief Executive Officer, Aaron Freidin, our Chief Financial Officer, Dr. Joshua Ofman, our President, Mr. Harpal Kumar, our President, International Business and BioPharma, and Annie Partridge, our Chief Commercial Officer.

Aaron Freidin: Thanks, operator, and thanks everyone for joining us today. On the call are Robert Ragusa, our Chief Executive Officer; Aaron Freidin, our Chief Financial Officer; Dr. Joshua Ofman, our President; Sir Harpal Kumar, our President, International Business and Biopharma; and Andy Partridge, our Chief Commercial Officer. We'll be making forward-looking statements on this call based on current expectations. It's our intent that all statements, other than statements of historical fact made during today's call, including statements regarding our anticipated financial results and commercial activity, will be covered by the Safe Harbor provisions for forward-looking statements contained in Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 as amended, and Section 21 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 as amended. Forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual events or results may differ materially from those projected or discussed.

Speaker #2: We'll be making forward-looking statements on this call based on current expectations. It's our intent that all statements, other than statements of historical fact, made during today's call, including statements regarding our anticipated financial results and commercial activity, will be covered by the safe harbor provisions for forward-looking statements contained in Section 27(a) of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended.

Speaker #2: Forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual events or results may differ materially from those projected or discussed. All forward-looking statements are based upon currently available information and GRAIL assumes no obligation to update these statements.

Aaron Freidin: All forward-looking statements are based upon currently available information, and GRAIL assumes no obligation to update these statements. To better understand the risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ, we refer you to the documents that GRAIL follows with the SEC, including the Risk Factors section in GRAIL's most recent quarterly report on Form 10-Q. This call will also include a discussion of GAAP results and certain non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted gross profit or loss, which are adjusted to exclude certain specified items. Our non-GAAP financial measures are intended to supplement your understanding of GRAIL's financials. Reconciliations of the non-GAAP measures to most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are available in the press release issued today, which is posted to our website, and with that, we turn to Bob.

Speaker #2: To better understand the risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ, we refer you to the documents that GRAIL files with the SEC.

Speaker #2: Including the risk factors section in GRAIL's most recent quarterly report on Form 10-Q. This call will also include a discussion of gap results and certain non-gap financial measures, including adjusted gross profit or loss, which are adjusted to exclude certain specified items.

Speaker #2: Our non-gap financial measures are intended to supplement your understanding of gross financials. Reconciliations of the non-gap measures to most directly comparable gap financial measures are available in the press release issued today.

Speaker #2: Which is posted to our website and with that, we turn to Bob.

Speaker #3: Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us to review second quarter results. For nearly a decade, GRAIL has made key investments to advance our vision for population scale, multi-cancer, early detection, and establish a durable advantage in a growing field.

Robert Ragusa: Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us to review second quarter results. For nearly a decade, GRAIL has made key investments to advance our vision for population scale, multi-cancer, early detection, and establish a durable advantage in a growing field. The timeframe to establish evidence in this space is long, and we are setting the evidence bar high. We started population scale clinical studies years ago and now house several years of follow-up data. Our pivotal implementation and clinical utility studies in the intended use population are beginning to read out, and we are delighted to see results not only confirm earlier studies but actually improve certain performance measures as we evaluate gallery and larger populations.

Speaker #3: The timeframe to establish evidence in this space is long, and we are setting the evidence bar high. We started population scale clinical studies years ago and now house several years of follow-up data.

Speaker #3: Our pivotal implementation and clinical utility studies in the intended-use population are beginning to read out, and we are delighted to see results not only confirm early-year studies but actually improve certain performance measures as we evaluate gallery and larger populations.

Speaker #3: We plan to submit detailed results from the pre-specified analysis of the first 25,000 patients in our registrational Pathfinder II study for presentation at the ESMO Congress 2025 in October.

Robert Ragusa: We plan to submit detailed results from the pre-specified analysis of the first 25,000 patients in our registrational Pathfinder 2 study for a presentation at the ESMO Congress 2025 in October. As a reminder, we announced positive top-line performance and safety results from this data set in June, namely that we observed substantially greater additional cancer detection and a substantially higher positive predictive value in Pathfinder 2 compared to the first Pathfinder study. And Josh will describe these results further shortly. We have been working with advocates and stakeholders to deploy M-SED, and we are finding aggressive cancers in real-world commercial settings, many of which are in early stages. Gallery test orders continue to grow at a strong clip with more than 45,000 gallery commercial tests sold in the second quarter.

Speaker #3: As a reminder, we announced positive top-line performance and safety results from this dataset in June. Namely, that we observed substantially greater additional cancer detection and a substantially higher positive predictive value in Pathfinder II, compared to the first Pathfinder study.

Speaker #3: And Josh will describe these results further shortly. We have been working with advocates and stakeholders to deploy M-SED, and we are finding aggressive cancers in real-world commercial settings, many of which are in early stages.

Speaker #3: Gallery test orders continue to grow at a strong clip, with more than 45,000 gallery commercial tests sold in the second quarter. As of June 30, more than 370,000 gallery tests have been prescribed by more than 15,000 healthcare providers since we launched Gallery commercially in 2021.

Robert Ragusa: As of June 30th, more than 370,000 gallery tests have been prescribed by more than 15,000 healthcare providers since we launched gallery commercially in 2021. We continue to drive provider and patient awareness of the M-SED opportunity and gallery's ability to detect cancer earlier when it is more amenable to treatment. GRAIL has established several partnerships with healthcare systems to make gallery available to patients, and we were very pleased to add Rush University System for Health in July. Rush is one of the largest health systems in the US and the first in the Chicago area market to offer the gallery test. Additionally, we recently entered into a new collaboration with Everly Well, a digital health company pioneering in next-generation of biomarker intelligence, and gallery is now available for requests directly on Everly Well's website via prescription. We remain on track for continued commercial growth in 2025.

Speaker #3: We continue to drive provider and patient awareness of the M-SED opportunity and gallery's ability to detect cancer earlier when it is more amenable to treatment.

Speaker #3: GRAIL has established several partnerships with healthcare systems to make Galleri available to patients, and we are very pleased to add Rush University's System for Health in July.

Speaker #3: Rush is one of the largest health systems in the U.S. and the first in the Chicago area market to offer the Gallery test. Additionally, we recently entered into a new collaboration with EverlyWell, a digital health company pioneering the next generation of biomarker intelligence, and Gallery is now available for request directly on EverlyWell's website via prescription.

Speaker #3: We remain on track for continued commercial growth in 2025. We are also encouraged by increasing gallery volume via the Quest Diagnostic Test Ordering platform at mid-year, which follows gallery integration into the platform earlier in 2025.

Robert Ragusa: We are also encouraged by increasing gallery volume via the Quest Diagnostic Test Ordering Platform at mid-year, which follows gallery integration into the platform earlier in 2025. In late 2024, we began the use of a new version of gallery for which we were submitting our PMA in commercial channels. This new version incorporates an industrial-scale platform with significant automation intended to enable us to scale more efficiently with future demand. As a result of the scale and complexity of the system, there are certain new processes to sort through with a large-scale rollout. For example, for a small proportion of samples, we've experienced increased turnaround times with higher reprocessing costs. We are now working to implement the fix to this issue. Before I hand it over to Josh, I'd like to notify the group that we will host our 2025 Analyst Day in November.

Speaker #3: In late 2024, we began the use of a new version of gallery for which we were submitting our PMA in commercial channels. This new version incorporates an industrial-scale platform with significant automation intended to enable us to scale more efficiently with future demand.

Speaker #3: As a result of the scale and complexity of the system, there are certain new processes to sort through with a large-scale rollout. For example, for a small proportion of samples, we've experienced increased turnaround times with higher reprocessing costs.

Speaker #3: We are now working to implement the fix to this issue. Before I hand it over to Josh, I'd like to notify the group that we will host our 2025 analyst day in November.

Speaker #3: Feature speakers will detail key study results and clinical surveillance findings. They will frame our upcoming longitudinal clinical utility data and describe first-hand customer experience with the gallery.

Robert Ragusa: Feature speakers will detail key study results and clinical surveillance findings, frame our upcoming longitudinal clinical utility data, and describe firsthand customer experience with gallery. Event details will be announced at a later date. Josh, please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Event details will be announced at a later date. Josh, please go ahead.

Speaker #4: Thanks, Bob, and hello, o, everyone. We've spoken in the past about key performance metrics, features, and capabilities. For multi-cancer early detection tests, which are quite different from those for single cancer screenings.

Joshua Ofman: Thanks, Bob, and hello, everyone. We've spoken in the past about key performance metrics, features, and capabilities for multi-cancer early detection tests, which are quite different from those for single-cancer screenings. Most critically, any test developer must confirm clinical validation in the intended use population of asymptomatic adults eligible for screening before they introduce those tests into clinical practice. This critical criterion was the reason that GRAIL did not introduce gallery into clinical practice until we saw the results from the Pathfinder trial in the screening population. Even tests with strong results in observational case-controlled studies may fail to confirm those results in the actual screening population. Full clinical validation requires demonstration of compelling performance in the intended use population. It is simply not possible to know the benefits and potential harms of any test before being adequately studied in the intended use population.

Speaker #4: Most critically, any test developer must confirm clinical validation in the intended-use population of asymptomatic adults eligible for screening, before they introduce those tests into clinical practice.

Speaker #4: This critical criterion was the reason that GRAIL did not introduce gallery into clinical practice until we saw the results from the Pathfinder trial in these screening populations.

Speaker #4: Even tests with strong results in observational case-controlled studies may fail to confirm those results in the actual screening population. Full clinical validation requires demonstration of compelling performance in the intended-use populations.

Speaker #4: It is simply not possible to know the benefits and potential harms of any test before being adequately studied in the intended-use populations. It is also important to note that any multi-cancer test seeking FDA approval will need to demonstrate this as well.

Joshua Ofman: It is also important to note that any multi-cancer test seeking FDA approval will need to demonstrate this as well. So, in terms of performance metrics, we've discussed what we consider to be most clinically important for M-SEDs: positive predictive value, or PPV, which tells us among positive test results how many cancers are found or how many are actually true positives, and the specificity, critically important, which defines the false positive rate, as well as the cancer detection yield when added to standard-of-care screening and the ability to localize where in the body a cancer signal is coming from. After hundreds of thousands of commercial tests performed, we've now confirmed how essential it is for any M-SED test to report a predicted CSO, or cancer signal origin, to guide an efficient and effective clinical workup.

Speaker #4: So, in terms of performance metrics, we've discussed what we consider to be most clinically important for M-SEDs. Positive predictive value, or PPV. Which tells us, among positive test results, how many cancers are found, or how many are actually true positives.

Speaker #4: And the specificity, critically important, which defines the false positive rate. As well as the cancer detection yield when added to standard of care screening, and the ability to localize where in the body a cancer signal is coming from.

Speaker #4: After hundreds of thousands of commercial tests performed, we've now confirmed how essential it is for any M-SED test to report a predicted CSO, or cancer signal origin, to guide an efficient and effective clinical workup.

Speaker #4: We believe that any other approach such as relying on whole body imaging, with its radiation exposure, cost, and lack of any performance or safety data, is simply not practicable.

Joshua Ofman: We believe that any other approach, such as relying on whole-body imaging with its radiation exposure, costs, and lack of any performance or safety data, is simply not practicable. Our first clinical implementation study, Pathfinder, which was presented at ESMO in 2022, showed that gallery more than doubled the number of cancers identified when added to standard-of-care screening. About half of the M-SED detected cancers were at early stage, and about 70% of the M-SED detected cancers had no recommended screenings at all. The positive predictive value for gallery in the study population was 43%, which, as you recall, is an order of magnitude higher than leading single-cancer screening tests, whose PPVs remain in the single digits. Gallery's specificity was 99.5%, and its cancer signal of origin accuracy was 88%.

Speaker #4: Our first clinical implementation study, Pathfinder, which was presented at ESMO in 2022, showed that gallery more than doubled the number of cancers identified when added to standard of care screening.

Speaker #4: About half of the M-SED detected cancers were at early stage, and about 70 percent of the M-SED detected cancers had no recommended screenings at all.

Speaker #4: The positive predictive value for gallery in the study population was 43 percent. Which, as you recall, is an order of magnitude higher than leading single cancer screening tests, whose PPVs remain in the single digits.

Speaker #4: Gallery's specificity was 99.5 percent, and its cancer signal of origin accuracy was 88 percent. We have subsequently undertaken Pathfinder II, similarly designed as a prospective multi-center interventional study of gallery added to standard of care screening, designed to assess the performance and safety of gallery in an even larger and more representative intended-use population.

Joshua Ofman: We have subsequently undertaken Pathfinder 2, similarly designed as a prospective multi-center interventional study of gallery added to standard-of-care screening, designed to assess the performance and safety of gallery in an even larger and more representative intended use population. As Bob said, we observed a number of very promising results in the pre-specified analysis of the first 25,000 participants enrolled with 12 months follow-up and shared top-line results in June. First, adding gallery to standard-of-care screening in Pathfinder 2 demonstrated substantially greater additional cancer detection than that observed in the first Pathfinder study. That is substantially greater than the more than doubling of the overall number of cancers detected when added to standard-of-care in the first Pathfinder study. Second, data showed a substantially higher positive predictive value than that observed in the first Pathfinder study, which was 43%.

Speaker #4: As Bob said, we observed a number of very promising results, in the pre-specified analysis of the first 25,000 participants enrolled, with 12 months' follow-up, and shared top-line results in June.

Speaker #4: First, adding gallery to standard of care screening in Pathfinder II demonstrated substantially greater additional cancer detection than that observed in the first Pathfinder study.

Speaker #4: That is, substantially greater than the more than doubling of the overall number of cancers detected when added to standard of care in the first Pathfinder study.

Speaker #4: Second, data showed a substantially higher positive predictive value than that observed in the first Pathfinder study, which was 43 percent. Third, specificity and CSO accuracy were consistent with that observed in the first Pathfinder study.

Joshua Ofman: Third, specificity and CSO accuracy were consistent with that observed in the first Pathfinder study. And finally, there were no serious safety concerns reported in Pathfinder 2. We're enormously pleased with the top-line results from both of our registrational studies, Pathfinder 2 and the NHS Gallery randomized clinical trial. You will recall in May that we completed a review of gallery test performance results in the intervention arm from the prevalence screening round of the registrational NHS Gallery trial. Data from the prevalence screening round showed a substantially higher positive predictive value than that observed in the first Pathfinder study. Specificity and CSO accuracy were consistent with that observed in the first Pathfinder study, and again, there were no serious safety concerns observed in Pathfinder 2, also consistent with the first Pathfinder study.

Speaker #4: And finally, there were no serious safety concerns reported in Pathfinder II. We're enormously pleased with the top-line results from both of our registrational studies, Pathfinder II and the NHS Gallery Randomized Clinical Trial.

Speaker #4: You will recall in May that we completed a review of gallery test performance results in the intervention arm from the prevalence screening round of the registrational NHS Gallery trial.

Speaker #4: Data from the prevalence screening round showed a substantially higher positive predictive value than that observed in the first Pathfinder study. Specificity and CSO accuracy were consistent with that observed in the first Pathfinder study, and again, there were no serious safety concerns observed in Pathfinder II, which was also consistent with the first Pathfinder study.

Speaker #4: These top-line findings from NHS Gallery and Pathfinder II confirm and extend what we already know about our multi-cancer early detection technology. The technology has been validated through many robust studies, including intended-use populations and through hundreds of thousands of commercial and clinical study test results showing very consistent results.

Joshua Ofman: These top-line findings from NHS Gallery and Pathfinder 2 confirm and extend what we already know about our multi-cancer early detection technology. This technology has been validated through many robust studies, including intended use populations, and through hundreds of thousands of commercial and clinical study test results showing very consistent results. Data presented at the ASCO annual meeting 2025 in May included a five-year follow-up analysis of the circulating Self-Read Genome Atlas study, which demonstrated gallery's preferential detection of aggressive and clinically meaningful cancers. These findings were consistent with earlier analyses assessing the prognostic importance of gallery's self-read DNA-based methylation approach. Between case-controlled studies and prospective implementation studies in the intended use population, we have not seen deterioration in the key performance metrics. Many of you well know this is not always the case.

Speaker #4: Data presented at the ASCO annual meeting 2025 in May included a five-year follow-up analysis of the circulating self-read genome atlas study, which demonstrated gallery's preferential detection of aggressive and clinically meaningful cancers.

Speaker #4: These findings were consistent with earlier analyses assessing the prognostic importance of gallery's self-read DNA-based methylation approach. Between case-controlled studies and prospective implementation studies, in the intended-use populations, we have not seen deterioration in the key performance metrics.

Speaker #4: Many of you will know this is not always the case. Case-controlled performance often doesn't carry over into the real world. But we saw no deterioration in specificity, positive predictive value, or cancer detection yield.

Joshua Ofman: Case-controlled performance often doesn't carry over into the real world, but we saw no deterioration in specificity, positive predictive value, or cancer detection yield. And now we're moving into readouts of much larger registrational studies in the intended use groups, as well as analyses performed by large health systems who have actual clinical experience with gallery. And we're seeing a body of results with substantially improved PPV figures and substantially higher cancer detection numbers, while other key figures like specificity and CSO accuracy remain consistent. Earlier in GRAIL's development phase of our M-SED technology, we deployed a very rigorous, unbiased, and comprehensive discovery approach to identify the effective genomic features for early cancer screening. Out of those approaches evaluated, methylation patterns exhibited the strongest performance for both sensitive and specific cancer signal detection and accurate prediction of the cancer signal origin.

Speaker #4: And now we're moving into readouts of much larger registrational studies in the intended-use groups, as well as analyses performed by large health systems who have actual clinical experience with gallery.

Speaker #4: And we're seeing a body of results with substantially improved PPV figures and substantially higher cancer detection numbers, while other key figures like specificity and CSO accuracy remain consistent.

Speaker #4: Earlier in GRAIL's development phase of our M-SED technology, we deployed a very rigorous, unbiased, and comprehensive discovery approach to identify the effective genomic features for early cancer screening.

Speaker #4: Out of those approaches evaluated, methylation patterns exhibited the strongest performance for both sensitive and specific cancer signal detection and accurate prediction of the cancer signal origin.

Speaker #4: Adding on other analytes or DNA features did not improve the performance. What we are seeing today from our growing datasets strengthens our conviction in our targeted methylation approach, which is focused on highly informative and low-noise methylation regions known to be informative for cancer.

Joshua Ofman: Adding other analytes or DNA features did not improve the performance. What we are seeing today from our growing data set strengthens our conviction in our targeted methylation approach, which is focused on highly informative and low-noise methylation regions known to be informative for cancer. Through hundreds of thousands of samples run in both clinical studies and commercially, we're seeing very strong positive predictive values and cancer detection rates and a highly accurate cancer signal abortion prediction, all of which critically is achieved at a very low false positive rate of 0.5%, which befits population scale testing. Remember, if another test developer is operating at a lower specificity, a difference in specificity of 99.5% to 98.5% is actually three times higher false positive rate. That's really important to remember.

Speaker #4: Through hundreds of thousands of samples run in both clinical studies and commercially, we're seeing very strong positive predictive values in cancer detection rates and a highly accurate cancer signal of origin prediction, all of which, critically, is achieved at a very low false positive rate of 0.5 percent.

Speaker #4: Which befits population scale testing. Remember, if another test developer is operating at a lower specificity, a difference in specificity of 99.5 percent to 98.5 percent is actually a three times higher false positive rate.

Speaker #4: That's really important to remember. We reported top-line results from Pathfinder II in order to preserve detailed results for a major medical meeting. And we hope to present the full dataset at ESMO in October.

Joshua Ofman: We reported top-line results from Pathfinder 2 in order to preserve detailed results for a major medical meeting, and we hope to present the full data set at ESMO in October. We look forward to discussing detailed results from Pathfinder 2 with you potentially very soon. I'll now hand off to Aaron for a review of the financials.

Speaker #4: We look forward to discussing detailed results from Pathfinder II with you, potentially very soon. I'll now hand off to Aaron for a review of the financials.

Speaker #5: Thanks, Josh, and good afternoon, everyone. I'm pleased to present our results for the second quarter. Overall, second quarter results were strong. Revenue for the quarter was $35.5 million.

Aaron Freidin: Thanks, Josh, and good afternoon, everyone. I'm pleased to present our results for the second quarter. Overall, second quarter results were strong. Revenue for the quarter was $35.5 million, up $3.5 million, or 11% as compared to the second quarter of 2024. Total revenue for the quarter is comprised of $34.4 million of screening revenue and $1.1 million of development services revenue. Development service revenue includes services we provide to biopharmaceutical and clinical customers, including support of clinical studies, pilot testing, research, and therapy development. We see continued demand for our gallery test and sold more than 45,000 tests in the second quarter. We have historically observed seasonal fluctuations over the course of the year, in particular, relatively high volume in the second and fourth quarters and lower in the first and third, and we would expect these seasonal trends to continue.

Speaker #5: Up 3.5 million dollars, or 11 percent as compared to the second quarter of 2024. Total revenue for the quarter is comprised of $34.4 million of screening revenue, and $1.1 million of development services revenue.

Speaker #5: Development services revenue includes services we provide to biopharmaceutical and clinical customers, including support of clinical studies, pilot testing, research, and therapy development. We see continued demand for our gallery test.

Speaker #5: And sold more than 45,000 tests in the second quarter. We have historically observed seasonal fluctuations over the course of the year. In particular, relatively high volume in the second and fourth quarters, and lower in the first and third.

Speaker #5: And we would expect these seasonal trends to continue. Repeat test volumes have trended higher over time, including year to date. Today, more than 25 percent of gallery's volume is repeat testing.

Aaron Freidin: Repeat test volumes have trended higher over time, including year to date. Today, more than 25% of gallery's volume is repeat testing. Screening revenue of $34.4 million in the second quarter was up 22% as compared with the second quarter of 2024. US gallery revenue was $34.2 million, up 21% compared to the second quarter last year. The second quarter has been a strong quarter for US gallery revenue historically. We were on track relative to our full-year guidance of US gallery revenue growth between 20% to 30%. As stated last quarter, we do not expect major impacts from tariffs on our current business, as our laboratory is located in the US and a significant majority of our suppliers are located in manufacturing in the US.

Speaker #5: Screening revenue of $34.4 million in the second quarter was up 22 percent compared with the second quarter of 2024. U.S. gallery revenue was $34.2 million, up 21 percent compared to the second quarter last year.

Speaker #5: The second quarter has been a strong quarter for US gallery revenue historically. We were on track relative to our full-year guidance of US gallery revenue growth between 20 to 30 percent.

Speaker #5: As stated last quarter, we do not expect major impacts from tariffs, on our current business, as our laboratory is located in the US, and a significant majority of our suppliers are located in the manufacture in the US.

Speaker #5: Fastest screening revenue exclusive of amortization of intangible assets, as a percent of revenue decreased in the second quarter of 2025, compared to the same period in 2024.

Aaron Freidin: Cost of screening revenue, exclusive of amortization of intangible assets, as a percent of revenue decreased in the second quarter of 2025 compared to the same period in 2024, primarily due to a 6% decrease in ASP and additional sample reprocessing costs, partially offset by the reduction in variable costs of gallery testing performed on our automated platform. Net loss for the quarter was $114 million, an improvement of 93% as compared to the second quarter of 2024. Net loss in the second quarter includes impairment of Illumina acquisition-related intangible assets of $28 million and stock-based compensation of $14.2 million. While we focus on advancing gallery, we remain committed to our ongoing work with pharma partners, and we have confidence in the potential application of our technology.

Speaker #5: Primarily due to a 6 percent decrease in ASP and additional sample reprocessing costs. Partially offset by the reduction in variable costs of gallery testing performed on our automated platform.

Speaker #5: Net loss for the quarter was $114 million. An improvement of 93 percent as compared to the second quarter of 2024. Net loss in the second quarter includes impairment of alumina acquisition related intangible assets of $28 million and stock-based compensation of $14.2 million.

Speaker #5: While we focus on advancing gallery, we remain committed to our ongoing work with pharma partners, and we have confidence in the potential application of our technology.

Speaker #5: Non-gap adjusted gross profit for the second quarter of 2025 was $16.1 million. An increase of 0.1 million or 1 percent as compared with the second quarter of 2024.

Aaron Freidin: Non-GAAP adjusted gross profit for the second quarter of 2025 was $16.1 million, an increase of $0.1 million, or 1% as compared with the second quarter of 2024. We ended the quarter with a cash position of $606.1 million. In January, we guided that we expect cash burn for the full year 2025 to be no more than $320 million, and we are updating the guidance to cash burn of no more than $310 million for the full year of 2025, which represents a decrease of more than 40% to 2024. Our cash runway extends into 2028, enabling us to achieve major planned clinical and regulatory milestones. I'll turn it back to Bob for concluding remarks.

Speaker #5: We ended the quarter with a cash position of $666.1 million. In January, we guided that we expect cash burn for the full year 2025 to be no more than $320 million.

Speaker #5: And we are updating the guidance to cash burn of no more than $310 million for the full year of 2025. Which represents a decrease of more than 40 percent to 2024.

Speaker #5: Our cash runway extends into 2028, enabling us to achieve major planned clinical and regulatory milestones. I'll turn it back to Bob for concluding remarks.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Aaron. To close, we are highly encouraged by the demand we are seeing today both for new patients and for returning patients who are repeat testing.

Robert Ragusa: Thank you, Aaron. To close, we are highly encouraged by the demand we are seeing today, both for new patients and for returning patients who are repeat testing. Our strategic priorities are seeking FDA approval of gallery and pursuing broad reimbursement. We are advancing gallery today toward near-term key clinical and regulatory catalysts to achieve broad access while maintaining our disciplined cost management. We plan to submit for presentation at ESMO in October detailed performance and safety results from the first 25,000 participants enrolled in the Pathfinder 2 study. This is a registrational data set that will go to the FDA. Soon into 2026, our key milestones are the completion of our modular PMA submission to the FDA in the first half and full clinical utility results from our 140,000 participant NHS gallery study, which we expect to read out mid-year.

Speaker #2: Our strategic priorities are seeking FDA approval of Gallery and pursuing broad reimbursement. We are advancing Gallery today toward near-term key clinical and regulatory catalysts to achieve broad access, while maintaining our disciplined cost management.

Speaker #2: We plan to submit four presentations at ESMO in October, detailing performance and safety results from the first 25,000 participants enrolled in the Pathfinder II study. This is a registrational dataset that will go to the FDA.

Speaker #2: Soon, it's a 2026, our key milestones are the completion of our modular PMA submission to the FDA in the first half, and full clinical utility results from our 140,000 participant NHS gallery study, which we expect to read out mid-year.

Speaker #2: This longitudinal dataset will be reviewed by the NHS to determine gallery's potential deployment within the UK population. As I mentioned earlier, we look forward to seeing many of you at our 2025 analyst day in November.

Robert Ragusa: This longitudinal data set will be reviewed by the NHS to determine gallery's potential deployment within the UK population. As I mentioned earlier, we look forward to seeing many of you at our 2025 Analyst Day in November. With that, we'll turn the call over to Q&A. Operator, please go ahead.

Speaker #2: With that, we'll turn the call over to Q&A, operator, please go ahead.

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Speaker #6: Our first question will come from Kyle Mixon with Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open. Please ask your question.

Speaker #7: Hi, this is Alex McKay from the line for Kyle Mixon. Thanks for taking my questions. I was just taking a step back here. So the first quarter cash burn came in a bit higher than we expected.

Alex (Canaccord Genuity, for Kyle Mixon): Hi, this is Alex with the Canaccord Genuity line for Kyle Mixon. Thanks for taking my questions. Let's just take a step back here. So the first quarter cash burn came in a bit higher than we expected. That's partially due to the bonuses that you have payout in the prior year period in one queue, but that's obviously not repeated in future quarters. You modestly improved the burn target for 2025. Can you just comment on two queues free cash burn? And then just given how integral the burn is to your story, can you elaborate on any other dynamics that could impact cash burn in the second half of '25? Whether that be additional R&D, increases to headcount, or any other one-offs. Thanks.

Speaker #7: That's partially due to, the bonuses that you have payout from the prior year period in one queue, but that's obviously not repeated in future quarters.

Speaker #7: And modestly improved the burn target for 2025. Can you just comment on two key free cash burn? And then just given how integral the burn is to your story, can you elaborate on any other dynamics that could impact cash burn in the second half of '25?

Speaker #7: whether that be additional R&D, increases to headcount, or any other one-offs. Thanks.

Speaker #2: Yeah, Aaron, you want to take that one?

Aaron Freidin: Yeah, Aaron, you want to take that one?

Speaker #7: Yeah, happy to. yeah, thanks for the question. So, I think we've first six months, it was about $160 million of burn. you know, and it is important for us to, again, as Bob said, manage the business, you know, as efficiently as possible.

Alex (Canaccord Genuity, for Kyle Mixon): Yeah, happy to. Yeah, thanks for the question. So I think we've for six months, I think it was about $160 million of burn. You know, and it is important for us to, again, as Bob said, manage the business as efficiently as possible. We do see that coming down in the next couple of quarters as you can get into the $310 million and more than guide that we just updated. You know, really driven by, you know, any increased volumes in the back half of the year, increased revenue, and also, you know, we'll be working on working through some of the getting more volume on our new automated platform.

Speaker #7: we do see that coming down in the next couple quarters, as you can, you know, get into the $310 million no more than guide that we just updated.

Speaker #7: you know, really driven by, you know, you know, increased, you know, volumes in the, in the back half of the year. increased revenue and, also, you know, we'll be, working on, working through some of the, getting more volume on our, our, our new, automated platform.

Speaker #2: Yeah, maybe just add a little color to that too. You know, one of the things, when we did the restructuring, we wanted to make sure that we gave ourselves, a lot of flexibility in the go-forward state.

Aaron Freidin: Yeah, I'd like maybe just add a little color to that too. You know, one of the things when we did the restructuring, we wanted to make sure that we gave ourselves a lot of flexibility in the go-forward state and, you know, recognizing that, you know, M-SED being a new field, we, you know, undoubtedly face a number of new and interesting challenges. So, you know, that flexibility was a key element. And I think, you know, by doing the restructuring, getting us cash into 2028 has provided that. And I think, you know, being able to guide down a little bit to 310 goes, you know, we think we're on track to be able to hit that more aggressive number.

Speaker #2: And, you know, recognizing that, you know, M-SED being a new field, we, you know, undoubtedly face a number, a number of new, new and interesting challenges.

Speaker #2: So, you know, that flexibility was a key element, and I think, you know, by doing the restructuring, getting us cash into 2028, has, has provided that, and I think, you know, being able to guide down a little bit to $310 shows, you know, we're, you know, we've, we think we're on track to be able to, to hit that more aggressive number.

Speaker #7: Got it. Thank you for the color.

Alex (Canaccord Genuity, for Kyle Mixon): Got it. Thank you for the color.

Speaker #6: Our next question will come from Subhu Nabhi, with Guggenheim. Your line is open. Please ask your question.

Operator: Our next question will come from Subhu Nabi with Guggenheim. Your line is open. Please ask your question.

Speaker #8: Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my question. just to clarify, do you not need full longitudinal clinical utility data that is expected mid-2026 for PMA submission?

Subhu Nabi: Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my question. Just to clarify, do you not need full longitudinal clinical utility data that is expected mid-2026 for PMA submission? One, and then when you say significantly higher PPV in Pathfinder 2, I had a basic question. Are you normalizing for cancer prevalence in both these studies? Just because shouldn't cancer prevalence impact PPV?

Speaker #8: One, and then when you say significantly higher PPV in Pathfinder II, I had a basic question. Are you normalizing for cancer prevalence in both these studies?

Speaker #8: Just because, shouldn't cancer prevalence impact PPV?

Speaker #2: Yeah, maybe I'll start off. Thanks for the questions. So, you know, on the clinical utility question, the FDA, if you go back to their advisory board meeting, they're really going to be looking at, you know, benefits and harms, view of the world.

Aaron Freidin: Yeah, maybe I'll start off. Thanks for the questions. So, you know, on the clinical utility question, so, you know, the FDA, if you go back to their advisory board meeting, they're really going to be looking at, you know, benefits, a benefits-harms view of the world. And so they are not going to be looking at clinical utility and typically don't for the approvals. That gets much more into the payer discussion. You know, so the payers would more typically look at that. But that, and that's what the NHS gallery data will provide. Josh, do you maybe want to take the PPV question on Pathfinder 2?

Speaker #2: And so they, they are not going to be looking, looking at clinical utility and typically don't for, for the approvals. That gets more, much more into the payer discussion, you know, so with payers with more typically look at that.

Speaker #2: But that, and that's what the NHS, gallery data will provide. Josh, you maybe want to take the, PPV question on Pathfinder II?

Speaker #4: Sure. So, you know, again, on the, on the FDA, there are going to be focused on clinical validation. rather than clinical validity, you know, utility, excuse me, clinical validation, not clinical utility.

Joshua Ofman: Sure. So, you know, again, on the FDA, they're going to be focused on clinical validation rather than clinical validity, utility, excuse me, clinical validation, not clinical utility. And they will, and they've said that in their own advisory board, as Bob said. On the PPV, you know, right now we are not normalizing that for the standard population. We're reporting it out within each study's population. As we mentioned earlier, these are much broader, more diverse, and more representative populations than has been studied previously. And so we're expecting that, you know, there will be a more diverse cancer risk in that population and cancer incidence, which may be driving the higher PPV. And so we will ultimately normalize all of this for cancer incidence and the cancer case mix, which is the distribution of cancers within each population, which is enormously important for performance reporting.

Speaker #4: And they will, and they've said that in their, in their own advisory board, as Bob said. On the PPV, you know, right now we are not normalizing that for the standard population we're reporting it out within each study's population.

Speaker #4: As we mentioned earlier, these are much broader, more diverse, and more representative populations than has been studied previously. And so, we're expecting that, you know, there will be a more diverse cancer risk in that population and cancer incidence, which may be driving the higher PPV.

Speaker #4: And so we will ultimately normalize all of this, for cancer incidence and the cancer case mix. which is the distribution of cancers within each population, which is enormously important for performance, reporting.

Speaker #4: We will ultimately do that, but today, we're just reporting them within the study population, themselves.

Joshua Ofman: We will ultimately do that, but today we're just reporting them within the study population themselves.

Speaker #6: Thank you so much for clarifying that. And then one follow-up. non-sequitur, based on other prior integrations with more concierge-type testing platforms like Function and SuperPower, how long is the typical growth ramp and do you expect early well to drive similar volumes?

Subhu Nabi: Thank you so much for clarifying that. And then one follow-up. Lance Ecuador, based on other prior integrations with more concierge-type testing platforms like Function and Superpower, how long is the typical growth ramp, and do you expect Early Well to drive similar volumes?

Speaker #2: Yeah, so we, you know, we have seen, you know, good consistent performance out of, you know, groups like Function, and, you know, have been very good partners.

Aaron Freidin: Yeah, so we, you know, we have seen, you know, good consistent performance out of, you know, groups like Function and, you know, been very good partners. We anticipate that Neverly Will will add, you know, an important dimension to the channel with, you know, a whole nother outlet given their subscriber base. Maybe Andy, do you want to, Andy Partridge, our CCO, do you want to add some color to that?

Speaker #2: We, we anticipate that Neverly will, will add, you know, add an important dimension to the channel, with, you know, a whole nother outlet given their subscriber base, maybe Andy, do you want to, Andy Parkstress, he's, CCO, you want to add some color to that?

Speaker #7: Yeah, absolutely. So, we're definitely anticipating these telemedicine longevity-based platforms, like FunctionHealth and Everly Well, to really give us a tailwind in terms of growth.

Harpal Kumar: Yeah, absolutely. So yeah, we're definitely anticipating these telemedicine longevity-based platforms like Function Health, like Everly Well, to really give us a tailwind in terms of growth. Going forward, when we look at Everly Well, they've had millions of customers order through their platform, and Everly Well, in terms of the Everly 360 launch that they announced, are offering gallery as an add-on, and they've emailed hundreds of thousands of their customers about the gallery multi-cancer early detection test. So we're excited to partner with groups like Function Health, like Everly Well, as they really amplify our education around gallery and multi-cancer early detection.

Speaker #7: Going forward, when we look at Everly Well, they've had millions of customers order through that platform, and Everly Well in terms of the Everly 360 launch that they announced, offering gallery as an add-on, and they've emailed hundreds of thousands of their customers about the gallery multi-cancer early detection test.

Speaker #7: So we're excited to partner with groups like FunctionHealth, like Everly Well, as they really amplify our education around gallery and multi-cancer early detection.

Speaker #6: Perfect, thank you guys. Our next question will come from Yuko Oku with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Please ask your question. Yuko Oku with Morgan Stanley, your line is open.

Subhu Nabi: Perfect. Thank you, guys.

Operator: Our next question will come from Yuko Oku with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Please ask your question. Yuko Oku with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Please ask your question.

Speaker #6: Please ask your question.

Speaker #9: Hello. Thank you for taking my questions. With time, timeline for PMA submission approaching, could you elaborate on customer support infrastructure in place to help integrate M-SED testing and cancer care today?

Colleen (Morgan Stanley, for Yuko Oku and Doug Schenko): Hello. Thank you for taking my questions. With timelines for PMA submission approaching, could you elaborate on customer support infrastructure in place to help integrate M-SED testing in cancer care today? And then outside of sales reps, what are areas do you intend to bolster as we get closer to the timing of anticipated FDA approval?

Speaker #9: And then outside of sales reps, what are areas you intend to bolster as you get closer to the timing of anticipated FDA approval?

Speaker #2: Yeah, so the timeline, you know, the timeline for our PMA submission is the first half of next year, 2026. You know, we're anticipating, you know, beyond that, for FDA approval, about a one-year process since we believe, since this is the first M-SED that will go through the FDA, we believe it will be about a one-year process due to having an advisory board.

Aaron Freidin: Yeah, so the timeline, you know, for our PMA submission is first half of next year of 2026. You know, we're anticipating, you know, beyond that for FDA approval, about a one-year process since we believe, since this is the first M-SED that will go through the FDA. We believe it'll be about a one-year process due to having an advisory board. So that puts you out into, you know, kind of mid, you know, first half, first half 2027. And, you know, with that, we've been consistently ramping our customer support, you know, both size as well as capability in line with, you know, in line with the growth of the business. So, you know, we would, you know, we would assume that we would continue to do that. We're obviously looking for efficiencies in the way we deliver that customer support going through that process.

Speaker #2: so that puts you out into, you know, kind of mid, you know, first half, first half 2027. And, you know, with that, we've been consistently ramping our customer support, you know, both sizes as well as capability, in line with, you know, in line with the growth of the business.

Speaker #2: so, you know, we would, you know, we would assume that we would continue to do that. We're obviously looking for efficiencies in the way we deliver.

Speaker #2: That customer support, going through that process. In terms of other elements, you know, we, at that point, will be looking at, you know, certainly from a sales and marketing perspective, how much effort we're going to be putting in as well.

Aaron Freidin: In terms of other elements, you know, we at that point, we'll be looking at, you know, from a, you know, certainly from a sales and marketing perspective, how much effort we're going to be putting in as well. And also looking at, you know, from a cost perspective, you know, we expect some step-downs in cost in other areas of the business as we get through those important milestones. Andy, anything you want to add on the customer support side?

Speaker #2: And also, looking at, you know, from a cost perspective, we expect some step-downs in cost in other areas of the business as we get through those important milestones.

Speaker #2: Andy, anything you want to add on the customer support side?

Speaker #7: Yeah, I think you covered it, Bob. We're really looking at what are those opportunities to expand our customer-facing teams. We're going to do that to capture those growth opportunities.

Harpal Kumar: Yeah, I think you covered it, Bob. We're really looking at what are those opportunities to expand our customer-facing teams. We're going to do that to capture those growth opportunities. We're also going to continue to keep an eye on expenses, as you outlined, Bob, as we really want to drive to kind of a commercial break even, kind of going forward. So.

Speaker #7: We're also going to continue to keep an eye on expenses. As you outlined, Bob, as we really want to drive to kind of a commercial break-even, kind of going forward.

Speaker #7: So, yeah.

Speaker #9: Great, thank you for that color. And if I could squeeze one more in, if I may, could you elaborate on the statistical powering of the NHS gallery study?

Operator: Great. Thank you for that color. And if I could squeeze one more in, if I may, could you elaborate on the statistical powering of the NHS gallery study? What difference is the trial power to detect on the primary endpoint of reduction in the incidence of late-stage cancers versus the control arm? And what result will be viewed as meaningful benefit?

Speaker #9: What difference is the trial power to detect on the primary endpoint of reduction in the incidence of late-stage cancers versus the control arm? And what result will be viewed as meaningful benefit?

Speaker #2: Yeah, Harpal, you maybe want to take that one?

Aaron Freidin: Yeah, Harpal, you maybe want to take that one?

Speaker #7: Yeah, sure. So, I mean, the, the, the the study is powered to show a significant reduction in late-stage cancer. So we, the primary endpoint is, is, is a reduction in stage three and four cancers.

Harpal Kumar: Yeah, sure. So, I mean, the study is powered to show a significant reduction in late-stage cancer. So the primary endpoint is a reduction in stage three and four cancers. And we look first at the 12 cancers that represent about two-thirds of all cancer mortality, and then we go on to look at all cancers from there. So, you know, we will be looking at that late-stage reduction. We don't have a specific reduction in mind, but the size of the study was set to be able to deliver a statistically significant result in terms of that reduction. So we will see, you know, we will see what that reduction ends up being. We're interested, obviously, both in reduction of stage three and four cancers, but also stage four cancers, because, you know, ultimately, people primarily die of stage four cancers.

Speaker #7: And we look first at the 12 cancers that represent about two-thirds of all cancer mortality. And then we go on to look at all cancers from there.

Speaker #7: So we, you know, we will be looking at that late-stage reduction. We don't have a specific, reduction in mind, but it's, but the size of the study was set to be able to deliver a statistically significant result in terms of that reduction.

Speaker #7: So we will see, you know, we will see what that reduction ends up being. we're interested, obviously, both in reduction of stage three and four cancers, but also stage four cancers, because, you know, ultimately, people primarily die of stage four cancers.

Speaker #7: So, if we can see significant reductions in those late-stage cancers, we believe this will provide substantial benefit to the population.

Harpal Kumar: So if we can see significant reductions in those late-stage cancers, we believe this will provide substantial benefit to the population.

Speaker #6: Our next question will come from Doug Shinko with Wolf Research. Your line is open. Please ask your question.

Operator: Our next question will come from Doug Schenko with Wolf Research. Your line is open. Please ask your question.

Speaker #10: Hi, this is Colleen on for Doug. Thanks for taking our question. As the NHS data reads out next year, we think that could serve as a strong evidence package for other international opportunities with single payer systems.

Colleen (Morgan Stanley, for Yuko Oku and Doug Schenko): Hi, this is Colleen on for Doug. Thanks for taking our question. As the NHS data reads out next year, we think that could serve as a strong evidence package for other international opportunities with single payer systems. How are your conversations with territories across the globe looking to deploy gallery? Also, if international volume grows sufficiently, will you have to do a tech transfer to international labs?

Speaker #10: How are your conversations with territories across the globe looking to deploy gallery? Also, if international volume grows sufficiently, will you have to do a tech transfer to international labs?

Speaker #2: Yeah, it's not, it's a great question. So, you know, we get a tremendous amount of inbound interest, as you can imagine, from, from around the globe.

Aaron Freidin: Yes, no, that's a great question. So, you know, we get a tremendous amount of inbound interest, as you can imagine, from around the globe. And with that, we've had, you know, numerous conversations. You know, we also believe, as you rightly point out, that in the middle of next year, from an efficiency standpoint and effectiveness standpoint, the middle of next year, when we read out the NHS gallery study, we think that's going to be a great calling card to really have significant discussion with a lot of countries around the globe, both due to just the sheer size of the study, but also the rigor and reputation of those studies done on the NHS. I think that reputational advantage will go a long way as we have those conversations. Harpal, anything you want to add with that?

Speaker #2: and with that, we've had, you know, numerous conversations. you know, we also believe, as you rightly point out, that in the middle of next year, from, you know, from an efficiency standpoint, effectiveness standpoint, the middle of next year, when we read out the NHS gallery study, we think that's going to be a great calling card to really have, you know, significant discussion with a lot of countries around the globe.

Speaker #2: both due to just the sheer size of the study, but also the rigor and reputation of studies done on the NHS. I think that reputational, advantage will go a long way as we have those conversations.

Speaker #2: no, Harpal, anything you want to add with that?

Speaker #5: I think you've largely covered it, Bob. I mean, as, as you said, you know, this is a very large study conducted, extremely well in a, in a health system that is very well respected around the world.

Harpal Kumar: I think you've largely covered it, Bob. I mean, as you said, you know, this is a very large study conducted extremely well in a health system that is very well respected around the world. So we fully expect that the results from this study will be and are being observed by countries right across the world. We're getting, as Bob said, a lot of inbound interest from, you know, pretty much every country around the world. And we expect that the results, you know, middle of next year will provide us with the data to really turn those conversations into meaningful opportunities as we look forward. And as you alluded to, should give us a substantial growth opportunity as we look forward.

Speaker #5: So, we fully expect that the results from this study will be, and are being, observed by countries right across the world. we're getting as Bob said, a lot of inbound interest, from, you know, pretty much every country around the world.

Speaker #5: And we, we expect that the results, you know, middle of next year, will provide us with the data to really turn those conversations into, meaningful opportunities as we look forward.

Speaker #5: And as you alluded to, should give us a, a substantial growth opportunity as we look forward.

Speaker #6: Thank you. Our last question will come from David Westenberg with Piper Sandler. Your line is open. Please ask your question. David Westenberg with Piper Sandler.

Operator: Thank you. Our last question will come from David Westenberg with Piper Sandler. Your line is open. Please ask your question. David Westenberg with Piper Sandler. Your line is open. Please ask your question. I'm not sure if David is having audio issues. Can you hear us, David?

Speaker #6: Your line is open. Please ask your question. I'm not sure if David is having audio issues. Can you hear us, David?

Speaker #7: Hi, this is John on for Dave. Can you hear me?

John (Piper Sandler, for David Westenberg): Hi, this is John on for Dave. Can you hear me?

Speaker #2: Yes.

Aaron Freidin: Yes.

Speaker #7: Hi, this is John on for Dave. Can you, can you hear me?

John (Piper Sandler, for David Westenberg): Hi, this is John on for Dave. Can you hear me?

Speaker #2: Yes, we can.

Aaron Freidin: Yes, we can.

Speaker #7: great. Thank you. So, just, first off, quest integrated gallery into, their ordering system earlier this year. it's still early days, but could you just give any color on, on what you're seeing in terms of orders coming through the quest platform at this point?

John (Piper Sandler, for David Westenberg): Great. Thank you. So just first off, Quest integrated gallery into their ordering system earlier this year. It's still early days, but could you just give it any color on what you're seeing in terms of orders coming through the Quest platform at this point? And any thoughts on what's wrapping it?

Speaker #7: And, any thoughts on what's driving it?

Speaker #2: Yeah, so maybe, answering in reverse, you know, so part of integrating with quests is we've, what we found is every time you remove friction from the system, we see an uplift in, uplift in sales.

Aaron Freidin: Yeah, so maybe answer in reverse. You know, so part of integrating with Quest is what we found is every time you remove friction from the system, we see an uplift in sales. And so, you know, we believe that Quest with their, you know, and the Quest integration would be able to give that significant, you know, kind of friction reduction in the system. What we've seen so far, year to date, is about 500 healthcare professionals have ordered the gallery test via the Quest system. And in Q2, we saw about 7% of the orders actually came through the Quest platform. And so we're pretty excited about, you know, the uptake on Quest being, you know, relatively quick.

Speaker #2: And so, you know, we believe that quests with their, you know, and the quest integration will be able to give that significant, you know, kind of friction reduction in the system.

Speaker #2: What we've seen so far year to date is that about 500 healthcare professionals have ordered the gallery test via the Quest system. In Q2, we saw that about 7 percent of the orders actually came through the Quest platform.

Speaker #2: And so we're, we're pretty excited about, you know, the, you know, the uptake on quests being, you know, relatively quick. And, you know, as we try to onboard more, more practitioners, you know, some of them can just go in immediately and order the gallery tests on their quest integration, while others need to specifically enable the gallery tests.

Aaron Freidin: And, you know, as we try to onboard more practitioners, you know, some of them can just go in immediately and order the gallery tests on their Quest integration, while others need to specifically enable the gallery tests. You know, that enablement typically takes a few weeks to occur. And so we do anticipate that we'll continue to grow that channel. And then another nice part about it is what we're finding is the Quest providers, people going through that system tend to be higher prescribers. And so, you know, we look at the ordering depth by prescriber, and they tend to be some of the higher ones. So we're seeing that get enabled definitely drives increased volumes.

Speaker #2: You know, that enablement typically takes a few weeks. to occur. And so, we do anticipate that we'll continue to grow, grow that channel. And then another, you know, nice part about it is what we're finding is the quest, the quest providers, people going through that system, tend to, you know, be higher prescribers.

Speaker #2: And so, you know, we look at the ordering depth by prescriber, and they tend to be some of the higher ones. So we're seeing that get enabled.

Speaker #2: definitely drives increased volumes.

Speaker #7: Great, thank you. And just a little more broadly, could you give any color on how you interpret the repeat test rate for the gallery? Are you pleased with it?

John (Piper Sandler, for David Westenberg): Great. Thank you. And just a little more broadly, could you give me color on how do you interpret the repeat test rate for gallery? Are you pleased with it? Do you have a target in mind? And just any general thoughts on the directional trend for repeat testing?

Speaker #7: Do you have a, a target, in mind? And, just any general thoughts on the directional trend for repeat testing?

Speaker #2: Sure, so, you know, first we're, we're pretty pleased with repeat testing. You know, last quarter, we're at, you know, over 20 percent this quarter.

Aaron Freidin: Sure. So, you know, first, we're pretty pleased with repeat testing. You know, last quarter we were at, you know, over 20%. This quarter we went to 25. We've seen a continued step up in repeat testing, which I think is really a testament to both the product as well as the medium. You know, we think, you know, a blood-based test has, you know, is going to have, you know, a better adoption capability than some of the other, you know, medias. And, you know, we also think the fact, you know, that it compares very favorably to other tests, given that it's not a, you know, a non-reimbursed test generally, to have, you know, repeat test rates above 25% at this stage of the game is something we're pretty happy with.

Speaker #2: We want to 25, we've seen a continuous step up in repeat testing. Which I think is really a testament to the, both the product as well as the medium.

Speaker #2: You know, we think, you know, a blood, blood-based test has, you know, is going to have, you know, a better adoption capability than some of the other, you know, medias.

Speaker #2: And, you know, we also think the fact, you know, that it compares very favorably to other tests, given that it's not a reimbur, you know, a non-reimbursed test generally, to have, you know, repeat test rates above 25 percent at this stage of the game is, is something we're pretty happy with.

Speaker #2: And it's also something we're looking to, you know, continue to do efforts to make sure we continue to drive that higher.

Aaron Freidin: And it's also something we're looking to, you know, continue to do efforts to make sure we continue to drive that higher.

Speaker #7: Great, thank you.

John (Piper Sandler, for David Westenberg): Great. Thank you.

Speaker #6: Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to GRAIL for closing remarks.

Operator: Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to GRAIL for closing remarks.

Speaker #2: That is why I thank everybody for the questions and, look forward to talking to you at the next call.

Aaron Freidin: Yeah, I just want to thank everybody for the questions, and I look forward to talking to you at the next call.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the call. You may now disconnect.