Q2 2025 Verrica Pharmaceuticals Inc Earnings Call
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Speaker #2: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Verrica Pharmaceuticals second quarter 2025 corporate update conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.
Speaker #2: After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to our host, Kevin Gardner of LifeSci Advisors.
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Speaker #3: Thank you, operator. Hello, everyone, and welcome to Verrica Pharmaceuticals' second quarter 2025 corporate update conference call. With me on the line this evening are Jayson Rieger, President and Chief Executive Officer of Verrica Pharmaceuticals; Noah Rosenberg, Chief Medical Officer; John Kirby, Interim Chief Financial Officer; and David Zawetz, Chief Operating Officer.
John Kirby: Thank you, operator. Hello, everyone, and welcome to Verrica Pharmaceuticals' second quarter 2025 corporate update conference call. With me on the line this evening are Jayson Rieger, President and Chief Executive Officer of Verrica Pharmaceuticals, Noah Rosenberg, Chief Medical Officer, John Kirby, Interim Chief Financial Officer, and David Zowitz, Chief Operating Officer. As a reminder, during today's call, management will make forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are based on the company's current expectations and involve inherent risks and uncertainties. Verrica's actual results and the timing of events could differ materially from those anticipated in such forward-looking statements. Please see Verrica's SEC filings for important risk factors. Verrica cautions you not to place undue reliance on forward-looking statements and undertakes no duty or obligation to update any forward-looking statements as a result of new information, future events, or changes in expectations.
Speaker #3: As a reminder, during today's call, management will make forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are based on the company's current expectations and involve inherent risks and uncertainties.
Speaker #3: Verrica's actual results and the timing of events could differ materially from those anticipated in such forward-looking statements. Please see Verrica's SEC filings for important risk factors.
Speaker #3: Verrica cautions you not to place undue reliance on forward-looking statements and undertakes no duty or obligation to update any forward-looking statements as a result of new information, future events, or changes in expectations.
Speaker #3: In addition, during today's call, management will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. These non-GAAP financial measures are in addition to and not a substitute for or superior to measures of financial performance, prepared in accordance with GAAP.
John Kirby: In addition, during today's call, management will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. These non-GAAP financial measures are, in addition to, and not a substitute for or superior to, measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP. There are a number of limitations related to the use of these non-GAAP financial measures compared to their closest GAAP equivalents. The earnings release that the company issued today includes GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliations for these measures and is also available on the Investor Relations section of Verrica's website. I'll now turn the call over to Verrica's President and CEO, Jayson Rieger.
Speaker #3: There are a number of limitations related to the use of these non-GAAP financial measures compared to their closest GAAP equivalents. The earnings release that the company issued today includes GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliations for these measures and is also available on the Investor Relations section of Verrica's website.
Speaker #3: I'll now turn the call over to Verrica's president and CEO, Jayson Rieger.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Kevin, and good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our second quarter 2025 corporate update call. The second quarter featured a number of notable accomplishments across multiple areas of our business, each of which has made us a stronger as a company.
Jayson Rieger: Thank you, Kevin, and good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our second quarter 2025 corporate update call. The second quarter featured a number of notable accomplishments across multiple areas of our business, each of which has made us stronger as a company. First and foremost, I'm very pleased with the continued execution from our commercial team, which continues to grow our YKANS business and is now helping thousands of patients and their families treat molluscum contagiosum every month. On July 9th, we reported a record 13,434 YKANS dispensed applicator units in the second quarter, which represents sequential quarterly growth of 32.8% over the prior quarter. In a moment, I will describe in more detail our recent business experience and the tailwinds that are helping to drive this growth.
Speaker #4: First and foremost, I am very pleased with the continued execution from our commercial team, which continues to grow our YCAMP business and is now helping thousands of patients and their families treat molecular contagiousness every month.
Speaker #4: On July 9th, we reported a record 13,434 YCAMP dispensed applicator units in the second quarter, which represents sequential quarterly growth of 32.8% over the prior quarter.
Speaker #4: In a moment, I will describe in more detail our recent business experience and the tailwinds that are helping to drive this growth. We also made major progress in strengthening our relationship with Tory Pharmaceutical, our development partner for YCAMP in Japan.
Jayson Rieger: We also made major progress in strengthening our relationship with Tori Pharmaceutical, our development partner for YKANS in Japan. As we announced on July 1st, at the end of the quarter, we executed an amendment to our agreement with Tori, whereby we secured Tori's financial commitment to starting our planned global phase three program to study YKANS in patients with common warts. And we also received an $8 million milestone payment from Tori shortly thereafter in July. I'll describe in greater detail later in the call the financial and strategic benefits stemming from the Tori amended agreement, which we view as a significant driver of value for our shareholders into the future. I'll also share a brief update on our development plans for VP 315, our other late-stage pipeline asset, which is ready for phase three trials for the treatment of basal cell carcinoma.
Speaker #4: As we announced on July 1st at the end of the quarter, we executed an amendment to our agreement with Tory, whereby we secured Tory's financial commitment to starting our planned global Phase 3 program to study YCAMP in patients with common warts.
Speaker #4: And we also received an $8 million milestone payment from Tory shortly thereafter in July. I'll describe in greater detail later in the call the financial and strategic benefits stemming from the Tory-amended agreement.
Speaker #4: Which we view as a significant driver of value for our shareholders into the future. I'll also share a brief update on our development plans for BP-315, our other late-stage pipeline asset.
Speaker #4: Which is ready for phase three trials for the treatment of basal cell carcinoma. We believe this program has strong potential to drive future value for Verrica.
Jayson Rieger: We believe this program has strong potential to drive future value for Verrica. Finally, John will take and provide a detailed review of our second quarter financials. I will now provide a more detailed update on our commercial activities for YKANS. Our strong second quarter results once again reflected our focused commercialization strategy. Starting in the fourth quarter of 2024, we began to focus on those territories with high prevalence of molluscum and robust medical and pharmacy benefit coverage. As our strong sequential growth in the second quarter demonstrates, this more focused commercial strategy is resonating with healthcare professionals. We believe that these providers are experiencing positive outcomes for their patients, and we expect to continue to build these relationships across both pediatric and dermatology practices, driving continued expansion in YKANS utilization.
Speaker #4: Finally, John will take and provide a detailed review of our second quarter financials. I will now provide a more detailed update on our commercial activities for YCAMP.
Speaker #4: Our strong second quarter results once again reflected our focused commercialization strategy. Starting in the fourth quarter of 2024, we began to focus on those territories with high prevalence of moluscum and robust medical and pharmacy benefit coverage.
Speaker #4: As our strong sequential growth in the second quarter demonstrates, this more focused commercial strategy is resonating with healthcare professionals. We believe that these providers are experiencing positive outcomes for their patients, and we expect to continue to build these relationships across both pediatric and dermatology practices driving continued expansion in YCAMP utilization.
Speaker #4: In addition, we continue to make substantial investments in our commercial copay assistance program, which allows patients with commercial insurance to pay just $25 per YCAMP treatment for up to two applicators.
Jayson Rieger: In addition, we continue to make substantial investments in our commercial co-pay assistance program, which allows patients with commercial insurance to pay just $25 per YKANS treatment for up to two applicators, which provides physicians with comfort knowing that their patients will find affordable access for YKANS. Our priority has been making YKANS broadly available so that many healthcare professionals, as possible, can treat their patients. To this end, and because of that investment, we have seen an increase in utilization of the co-pay program during the second quarter. And we believe utilization of the co-pay program may continue to increase in future quarters as more prescribers use this important option to support their patients' treatment with YKANS.
Speaker #4: Which provides physicians with comfort knowing that their patients will find affordable access for YCAMP. Our priority has been making YCAMP broadly available so that many healthcare professionals, as possible, can treat their patients.
Speaker #4: To this end, and because of that investment, we have seen an increase in utilization of the copay program during the second quarter, and we believe utilization of the copay program may continue to increase in future quarters as more prescribers use this important option to support their patients' treatment with YCAMP.
Speaker #4: Given our success in growing our core business over the last two quarters, we are now applying the same disciplined approach to expand into additional territories where demand and reimbursement for YCAMP is likely to be strong and sustainable.
Jayson Rieger: Given our success in growing our core business over the last two quarters, we are now applying the same disciplined approach to expand into additional territories where demand and reimbursement for YKANS is likely to be strong and sustainable. As noted on our first quarter call, we started recruiting sales representatives for these new territories, splitting territories covering certain large markets and entering into these new markets as well. Consistent with the first quarter, we have continued to add local independent regional pharmacies to our pharmacy distribution network, along with our national specialty pharmacy partners. Our approach to distribution of YKANS continues to focus on making YKANS available where healthcare professionals prefer to write their prescriptions, and we continue to see strong adoption with this approach.
Speaker #4: As noted on our first-quarter call, we started recruiting sales representatives for these new territories, splitting territories covering certain large markets and entering into these new markets as well.
Speaker #4: Consistent with the first quarter, we have continued to add local independent regional pharmacies to our pharmacy distribution network, along with our national specialty pharmacy partners.
Speaker #4: Our approach to distribution of YCAMP continues to focus on making YCAMP available where healthcare professionals prefer to write their prescriptions, and we continue to see strong adoption with this approach.
Speaker #4: For the second consecutive quarter, YCAMP inventory remained at normalized levels, with YCAMP applicator units shipped to distributors continuing to closely track underlying market demand of dispensed applicators.
Jayson Rieger: For the second consecutive quarter, YKANS inventory remained at normalized levels, with YKANS applicator units shipped to distributors continuing to closely track underlying market demand of dispensed applicators. In terms of commercial operating costs, as I mentioned earlier, we expect to selectively add sales personnel based on identifying additional high-value territories with our disciplined criteria. Looking ahead to the second half of 2025, we remain confident in generating strong and sustainable growth, primarily driven by YKANS' unique set of product attributes. As an in-office treatment, healthcare professionals who choose YKANS can directly observe the dosing compliance for their patients. We believe ensuring that patients complete the treatment cycle established by their physicians contributes to the clinical safety and efficacy profile of YKANS.
Speaker #4: In terms of commercial operating costs, as I mentioned earlier, we expect to selectively add sales personnel based on identifying additional high-value territories with our disciplined criteria.
Speaker #4: Looking ahead to the second half of 2025, we remain confident in generating strong and sustainable growth, primarily driven by YCAMP's unique set of product attributes.
Speaker #4: As an in-office treatment, healthcare professionals who choose YCAMP can directly observe the dose and compliance for their patients. We believe ensuring that patients complete the treatment cycle established by their physicians contributes to the clinical safety and efficacy profile of YCAMP.
Speaker #4: We believe in-office treatment provides gives providers a role in making sure patients are actively treated properly, rather than just being seen in the office and prescribed a product to take home.
Jayson Rieger: We believe in-office treatment provides providers a role in making sure patients are actively treated properly, rather than just being seen in the office and prescribed a product to take home. As at-home treatments have historically shown only modest patient compliance in dermatology. In addition, our product provides an incremental revenue opportunity for pediatricians while maintaining historic billing models for dermatologists. In summary, we are very excited about the progress we have made so far this year. We believe YKANS is a product with exceptional growth potential and will be the new standard of care available for the millions of patients impacted by molluscum contagiosum. Before providing an update on our pipeline, I would first like to touch upon our recently amended agreement with Tori Pharmaceutical, which, as I mentioned, has significant benefits for our company.
Speaker #4: As at-home treatments have historically shown only modest patient compliance in dermatology. In addition, our product provides an incremental revenue opportunity for pediatricians, while maintaining historic billing models for dermatologists.
Speaker #4: In summary, we are very excited about the progress we have made so far this year. We believe YCAMP is a product with exceptional growth potential, and will be the new standard of care available for the millions of patients impacted by moluscum contagiousness.
Speaker #4: Before providing an update on our pipeline, I would first like to touch upon our recently amended agreement with Tory Pharmaceutical, which, as I mentioned, has significant benefits for our company.
Speaker #4: On July 1st, we announced a second amendment to our existing collaboration and license agreement with Tory, securing Tory's commitment to launch a global pivotal Phase 3 program for YCAMP for the treatment of common warts with Verrica.
Jayson Rieger: On July 1st, we announced a second amendment to our existing collaboration and license agreement with Tori, securing Tori's commitment to launch with Verrica a global, pivotal phase three program for YKANS for the treatment of common warts. As part of this amended agreement, we're able to finalize a path to receive up to $18 million in non-dilutive capital in 2025, which includes an $8 million milestone payment already received from Tori earlier in July. If Tori obtains approval for molluscum contagiosum in Japan, which may occur by the end of 2025, this amended agreement provides that we would receive an additional milestone payment of $10 million in cash, rather than as an offset to trial costs as previously contemplated. For our investors, it is important to put into proper context the tremendous benefits of this revised agreement.
Speaker #4: As part of this amended agreement, we're able to finalize a path to receive up to $18 million in non-dilutive capital in 2025, which includes an $8 million milestone payment already received from Tory earlier in July.
Speaker #4: If Tory obtains approval from moluscum contagiousness in Japan, which may occur by the end of 2025, this amended agreement provides that we that we would receive an additional milestone payment of $10 million in cash, rather than as an offset to trial costs as previously contemplated.
Speaker #4: For our investors, it is important to put into proper context the tremendous benefits of this revised agreement. This deal enables us to strengthen our balance sheet without the need to issue a single share of new common stock.
Jayson Rieger: This deal enables us to strengthen our balance sheet without the need to issue a single share of new common stock. Of course, the arrangement with Tori also provides Verrica with critically important drivers of long-term value. Tori committed funding of $40 million for this global program. The $40 million is expected to cover around 90% of the program costs, and Verrica is committed to funding the remainder of the program. As you may recall, Verrica and Tori will split the costs 50/50, with Verrica having the ability to offset its 50% against future milestones, royalties, and transfer payments. We plan to initiate a manufacturing transfer to Tori for YKANS applicators to be sold in Japan, which is expected to take place in stages over the next few years. In the interim, we will continue to receive from Tori a transfer price for applicators manufactured by Verrica's manufacturing partners.
Speaker #4: Of course, the arrangement with Tory also provides Verrica with critically important drivers of long-term value. Tory committed funding of $40 million for this global program.
Speaker #4: The $40 million is expected to cover around 90% of the program costs, and Verrica is committed to funding the remainder of the program. As you may recall, Verrica and Tory will split the costs 50/50, with Verrica having the ability to offset its 50% against future milestones royalties and transfer payments.
Speaker #4: We plan to initiate a manufacturing transfer to Tory for YCAMP applicators to be sold in Japan. Which is expected to take place in stages over the next few years.
Speaker #4: In the interim, we will continue to receive from Tory a transfer price for applicators manufactured by Verrica's manufacturing partners. After the transfer of at least one component of the manufacturing process, Verrica will begin receiving royalties related to net sales in Japan of applicators manufactured by Tory and/or its manufacturing partners.
Jayson Rieger: After the transfer of at least one component of the manufacturing process, Verrica will begin receiving royalties related to net sales in Japan of applicators manufactured by Tori and/or its manufacturing partners. This commitment further allows Verrica to advance this critical development program in a non-dilutive way. Tori's partnership provides us with the funding needed to see the global phase three program to completion and provides us with a clear pathway to potentially seek the label expansion. Furthermore, we retain 100% ownership of the global rights to YKANS for all indications in all territories outside of Japan. We believe that the preservation of these exclusive rights may have profoundly transformative implications for the future long-term value of our company.
Speaker #4: This commitment further allows Verrica to advance this critical development program in a non-dilutive way. Tory's partnership provides us with a funding needed to see the global phase three program to completion.
Speaker #4: And provides us with a clear pathway to potentially seek the label expansion. Furthermore, we retain 100% ownership of the global rights to YCAMP for all indications in all territories outside of Japan.
Speaker #4: We believe that the preservation of these exclusive rights may have profound, profoundly transformative implications for the future long-term value of our company. We are also working with Tory to launch the global Phase 3 program, evaluating YCAMP for the treatment of common warts. Verrica expects to dose the first patient in this global Phase 3 program in the United States in the fourth quarter of 2025.
Jayson Rieger: We are also working with Tori to launch the global phase three program evaluating YKANS for the treatment of common warts, and Verrica expects to dose the first patient in this global phase three program in the United States in the fourth quarter of 2025. I'd also like to address our lending partner, OrbiMed. In mid-June, we disclosed an amendment to our credit agreement with OrbiMed, where they agreed to waive the going concern qualification to our financial statement for the remainder of 2025. OrbiMed continues to be a great partner to us throughout the implementation of our new commercial strategy for YKANS, and we very much appreciate their continued support. I'll now provide a brief update on our clinical stage programs. Based on Tori's NDA filing for molluscum in late 2024, we expect a regulatory decision on YKANS designated TO-208 in Japan by the end of the year.
Speaker #4: I'd also like to address our lending partner, Orbimed. In mid-June, we disclosed an amendment to our credit agreement with Orbimed, where they agreed to waive the going concern qualification to our financial statement for the remainder of 2025.
Speaker #4: Orbimed continues to be a great partner to us throughout the implementation of our new commercial strategy for YCAMP, and we very much appreciate their continued support.
Speaker #4: I'll now provide a brief update on our clinical stage programs. Based on Tory's NDA filing for moluscum in late 2024, we expect a regulatory decision on YCAMP designated TO-208 in Japan by the end of the year.
Speaker #4: Over 1.6 million patients in Japan alone contract moluscum annually. Which represents a significant market opportunity, and we look forward to Tory sharing updates on their regulatory approval process later this year.
Jayson Rieger: Over 1.6 million patients in Japan alone contract molluscum annually, which represents a significant market opportunity, and we look forward to Tori sharing updates on their regulatory approval process later this year. I would like now to turn to our program in basal cell carcinoma using our novel oncolytic peptide, VP 315. As you may recall, we have previously disclosed top-line safety and efficacy data regarding histological clearance and objective response rates. In the second quarter, we also received final minutes from the FDA following a successful end of phase two meeting. Following our end of phase two meeting with the FDA, we now have additional clarity on advancing this unique and promising therapy into a pivotal phase three program.
Speaker #4: I would like now to turn to our program in basal cell carcinoma using our novel oncolytic peptide, BP-315. As you may recall, we have previously disclosed top-line safety and efficacy data regarding histological clearance and objective response rates.
Speaker #4: In the second quarter, we also received final minutes from the FDA following a successful end-of-phase two meeting. Following our end-of-phase two meeting with the FDA, we now have additional clarity on advancing this unique and promising therapy into a pivotal phase three program.
Speaker #4: We plan to explore opportunities to fund the basal cell program, which may include strategic non-dilutive partnerships for financing both the development of the program as well as post-approval commercialization for this potential multi-billion dollar opportunity in the most common form of skin cancer.
Jayson Rieger: We plan to explore opportunities to fund the basal cell program, which may include strategic non-dilutive partnerships for financing both the development of the program as well as post-approval commercialization for this potential multi-billion dollar opportunity in the most common form of skin cancer. Planning activities are already underway, including engaging with potential clinical research organizations to manage the study, establishing a study budget and a timeline, and identifying potential study investigators. We plan to provide a comprehensive overview of the basal cell program, including an announcement of additional genomic and immune response data later this year at a scientific conference. I'll now turn the call over to our Interim Chief Financial Officer, John Kirby.
Speaker #4: Planning activities are already underway, including engaging with potential clinical research organizations to manage the study. Establishing a study budget and a timeline, and identifying potential study investigators.
Speaker #4: We plan to provide a comprehensive overview of the basal cell program, including an announcement of additional genomic and immune response data later this year at a scientific conference.
Speaker #4: I'll now turn the call over to our interim chief financial officer, John Kirby.
Speaker #5: Thanks, Jason. I'll now take a few minutes to summarize our financial results for the quarter ended June 30, 2025. For the second quarter of 2025, we reported total revenue of $12.7 million compared to total revenue of $5.2 million in the second quarter of 2024.
John Kirby: Thanks, Jayson. I'll now take a few minutes to summarize our financial results for the quarter ended June 30, 2025. For the second quarter of 2025, we reported total revenue of $12.7 million compared to total revenue of $5.2 million in the second quarter of 2024. Total revenue for the second quarter of 2025 primarily consists of $8 million of Tori milestone revenue and net YKANS revenue of $4.5 million compared to no milestone revenue and $4.9 million of net YKANS revenue in the second quarter of 2024. Net YKANS revenue in the second quarter of 2025 reflects shipments to our distribution partners offset by standard gross-to-net adjustments, including actual or anticipated product returns, off-invoice discounts, distribution fees, rebates, and co-pay assistance programs.
Speaker #5: Total revenue for the second quarter of 2025 primarily consists of $8 million of Tory milestone revenue, and net YCAMP revenue of $4.5 million compared to no milestone revenue and $4.9 million of net YCAMP revenue in the second quarter of 2024.
Speaker #5: Net YCAMP revenue in the second quarter of 2025 reflects shipments to our distributor distribution partners offset by standard gross to net adjustments, including actual or anticipated product returns, off invoice discounts, distribution fees, rebates, and copay assistance programs.
Speaker #5: As a reminder, in the second quarter of 2024, approximately 54% of net YCAMP revenue represented a one-time impact of an initial stocking order from a new specialty distributor.
John Kirby: As a reminder, in the second quarter of 2024, approximately 54% of net YKANS revenue represented a one-time impact of an initial stocking order from a new specialty distributor. This year, as Jayson mentioned earlier, net YKANS revenue represents orders from our distribution partners to meet demand from their customers. Gross product margins for the second quarter of 2025 were approximately 93%, and cost of product revenue was $0.3 million, with no material obsolete inventory costs. Research and development expenses of $1.8 million in the second quarter of 2025 decreased compared to the second quarter of 2024 by $1.5 million, driven by a $0.8 million decrease of clinical trial expenses primarily related to VP 315, as well as decreases in costs related to CMC and medical affairs expenses of $0.6 million.
Speaker #5: This year as Jason mentioned earlier, net YCAMP revenue represents orders from our distribution partners to meet demand from their customers. Gross product margins for the second quarter of 2025 were approximately 93% and cost of product revenue was $0.3 million with no material obsolete inventory costs.
Speaker #5: Research and development expenses of $1.8 million in the second quarter of 2025 decreased compared to the second quarter of 2024 by $1.5 million. Driven by a $0.8 million decrease of clinical trial expenses primarily related to BP-315, as well as decreases in costs related to CMC and medical affairs expenses of $0.6 million.
Speaker #5: Selling general and administrative expenses of $8.9 million in the second quarter of 2025 decreased compared to the second quarter of 2024 by $7.7 million driven primarily by the implementation of our more focused commercial strategy for YCAMP.
John Kirby: Selling general and administrative expenses of $8.9 million in the second quarter of 2025 decreased compared to the second quarter of 2024 by $7.7 million, driven primarily by the implementation of our more focused commercial strategy for YKANS, including a reduction in sales force of $5.7 million, decreased marketing and sponsorship costs of $1.1 million, and decreased legal costs of $0.9 million. Before I discuss net income and net loss per share, I will note that on July 24th, we affected a reverse stock split at a ratio of one for 10 shares of our common stock. As a result, every 10 shares of our issued and outstanding common stock were automatically combined into one share. The 2025 and 2024 per-share amounts I will note reflect the impact of the reverse stock split.
Speaker #5: Including a reduction in sales force of 5.7 million decreased marketing and sponsorship costs of $1.1 million and decreased legal costs of $0.9 million. Before I discuss net income and net loss per share, I will note that on July 24th, we effected a reverse stock split at a ratio of 1 for 10 shares of our common stock.
Speaker #5: As a result, every 10 shares of our issued and outstanding common stock were automatically combined into one share. The 2025 and 2024 per-share amounts I will note reflect the impact of the reverse stock split.
Speaker #5: GAAP net income was $0.2 million or two cents per share for the second quarter of 2025 compared to a GAAP net loss of $17.2 million or $3.70 per share for the second quarter of 2024.
John Kirby: GAAP net income was $0.2 million or $0.02 per share for the second quarter of 2025, compared to a GAAP net loss of $17.2 million or $3.70 per share for the second quarter of 2024. On a non-GAAP basis, which excludes stock-based compensation, non-cash interest expense, and change in fair value of embedded derivatives, the second quarter of 2025 net income was $2.4 million or $0.25 per share, compared to a net loss of $14.4 million or $3.11 per share for the second quarter of 2024. And finally, as of June 30, 2025, Verrica had aggregate cash and cash equivalents of $15.4 million. Under GAAP, the cash and cash equivalents as of June 30, 2025 would not be sufficient to fund operations for the one-year period following the release of our financial statements.
Speaker #5: On a non-GAAP basis, which excludes stock-based compensation, non-cash interest expense, and change in fair value of embedded derivatives, the second quarter of 2025 net income was $2.4 million or $0.25 per share compared to a net loss of $14.4 million or $3.11 per share for the second quarter of 2024.
Speaker #5: And finally, as of June 30, 2025, Verrica had aggregate cash and cash equivalents of $15.4 million. Under GAAP, the cash and cash equivalents as of June 30th, 2025 would not be sufficient to fund operations for the one-year period following the release of our financial statements.
Speaker #5: However, as Jason mentioned earlier, under our recently amended collaboration and license agreement with Tory, we received an $8 million milestone payment in July. We are also eligible to receive a $10 million cash milestone payment from Tory for the Japanese approval of YCAMP.
John Kirby: However, as Jayson mentioned earlier, under our recently amended collaboration and license agreement with Tori, we received an $8 million milestone payment in July. We are also eligible to receive a $10 million cash milestone payment from Tori for the Japanese approval of YKANS TO-208 in Japan for molluscum. The approval decision in Japan is expected to occur by the end of 2025. In addition, it is also possible that we could receive up to $25 million in proceeds from the exercise of Series A warrants issued as part of our November 2024 equity financing, which expire in November of 2025. Nonetheless, we will continue to apply discretion in our uses of cash and explore opportunities to further bolster the strength of our balance sheet while still advancing our commercial and clinical efforts. I'll now turn the call back over to Jayson for closing remarks.
Speaker #5: TO-208 in Japan for molluscum. The approval decision in Japan is expected to occur by the end of 2025. In addition, it is also possible that we could receive up to $25 million in proceeds from the exercise of Series A warrants issued as part of our November 2024 equity financing, which expire in November of 2025.
Speaker #5: Nonetheless, we will continue to apply discretion in our uses of cash and explore opportunities to further bolster the strength of our balance sheet while still advancing our commercial and clinical efforts.
Speaker #5: I'll now turn the call back over to Jason for closing remarks.
Speaker #4: Thanks, John. Based on the performance for the first half of 2025, we believe it has increasingly evident that our more focused commercial strategy is helping to drive significant demand for YCAMP.
Jayson Rieger: Thanks, John. Based on the performance for the first half of 2025, we believe it is increasingly evident that our more focused commercial strategy is helping to drive significant demand for YKANS. This demand is being driven primarily by the unique attributes of our product, robust commercial and Medicaid insurance coverage, and most importantly, the outstanding relationships that our commercial team continues to build in the medical community. Looking at the second half of the year, I believe we remain on track to realize strong and sustainable growth based on the significant momentum in our business. We expect our commercial team will continue to execute, and with our recently amended agreement with Tori, Verrica has also taken important steps to realize the long-term value in our late-stage pipeline.
Speaker #4: This demand is being driven primarily by the unique attributes of our product, robust commercial and Medicaid insurance coverage, and most importantly, the outstanding relationships that our commercial team continues to build in the medical community.
Speaker #4: Looking at the second half of the year, I believe we remain on track to realize strong and sustainable growth based on the significant momentum in our business.
Speaker #4: We expect our commercial team will continue to execute, and with our recently amended agreement with Tory Verrica, we have also taken important steps to realize the long-term value in our late-stage pipeline.
Speaker #4: We are excited about the future of our company and the significant value-creating opportunities that lie ahead. For us, as YCAMP utilization continues to expand and our clinical programs progress into pivotal testing.
Jayson Rieger: We are excited about the future of our company and significant value-creating opportunities that lie ahead for us as YKANS utilization continues to expand and our clinical programs into pivotal testing. With that, we would now be happy to take your questions. Operator?
Speaker #4: With that, we would now be happy to take your questions. Operator?
Speaker #6: Thank you. At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press the star one on your telephone keypad; you may remove yourself from the queue at any time by pressing star two.
Kevin Gardner: Thank you. At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press the star one on your telephone keypad. You may remove yourself from the queue at any time by pressing star two. And once again, that is star one to ask a question. We'll take our first question from Stacy Kuh with TD Cowan. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: And once again, that is star one to ask a question. We'll take our first question from Stacy Ku with TD Cowan. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Hey there. Thanks for taking our questions and incorrect on the quarter. So we have a few questions. First, it's now been two quarters, kind of discussing high-level the expansion of the sales force.
Stacy Ku: Hey there. thanks for taking our questions and congrats on the quarter. So we have a few questions. First, now I've been two quarters, kind of discussing high level the expansion of the sales force. So could you provide more details? how many additional, let's say folks are you considering in the near term? And then for those areas of success, are you able to pinpoint what exactly is maybe the few reasons for increased YKANS adoption? So that's the first question. the second question is, compounded cantharidin, something that we haven't asked about, recently. So just kind of curious, with the sales force that's really now reacquainting themselves with, YKANS and the prescribers, what are they experiencing currently in terms of maybe the feedback you're hearing there? And then the last question is on consensus, which has now increased to between 15 to 20 million.
Speaker #7: So could you provide more details? how many additional, let's say folks are you considering in the near term? And then for those areas of success, are you able to pinpoint what exactly is maybe the the few reasons for increased YCAMP adoption?
Speaker #7: So that's the first question. the second question is, compounded compared and something that we haven't asked about. recently, so just kind of curious, with the sales force, that's really now reacquainting themselves with, YCAMP and the prescribers.
Speaker #7: What are they experiencing currently in terms of maybe the feedback you're hearing there? And then last question is on consensus, which is now increased to between 15 to 20 million, so a touch above the 15 million from before.
Stacy Ku: So a touch above the 15 million from before. So curious, what are your views? And of course, as a housekeeping, for housekeeping purposes, maybe provide some additional color around the specialty distributor. Is that going to result in any lumpiness between quarters? Thanks so much.
Speaker #7: So, I'm curious; what are your views? And, of course, as housekeeping for housekeeping purposes, maybe you could provide some additional color around the specialty distributor. Is that going to result in any lumpiness between quarters?
Speaker #7: Thanks so much.
Speaker #8: Well, thanks, Stacy. This is Jason. I appreciate all the questions. Keep me honest. If I leave any of them out and don't answer them fully.
Jayson Rieger: Well, thanks, Stacy. This is Jayson. I appreciate all the questions. Keep me honest if I leave any of them out and don't answer them fully. In terms of the sales reps, you know, we were around 35 late last year and into the beginning of this year, and we expect that number to stay within that range to maybe five or ten more, you know, in the short-term predictable future. I think that gives us robust coverage across the country, and we also buttress that with some inside sales and other support sales mechanisms. In terms of what's driving success, I think there's a lot of factors there. One, just the pure tenacity of our sales reps being out there, you know, calling on doctors every day and advocating the support, you know, for YKANS.
Speaker #8: In terms of the the sales reps, you know, we were around 35, late last year. and into the beginning of this year. And we expect that number to stay within that range to maybe five or ten more, you know, in the short in the short-term predictable future.
Speaker #8: I think that gives us robust coverage across the country. We also buttress that with some inside sales and other support sales mechanisms. In terms of what's driving success, I think there are a lot of factors there.
Speaker #8: One, just the pure, you know, tenacity of our sales reps being out there, you know, calling on doctors every day, and advocating the support, you know, for YCAMP.
Speaker #8: But it's coupled by, you know, strong support in the medical community on the clinical and safety benefits and efficacy benefits of YCAMP for patients.
Jayson Rieger: But it's coupled by, you know, strong support in the medical community on the clinical and safety benefits and efficacy benefits of YKANS for patients. We've worked very hard to improve access to YKANS, both through the buy and bill mechanism where the company focused initially on the launch, but also through our expanding pharmacy network where, you know, patients can access the drug, be a, you know, a doctor writing a script to the pharmacy and that pharmacy couriering under a white bag service right back to the doctor. So that goes into the normal pharmacy benefit. Commercial patients only pay up to $25 for two applicators, and the drug, you know, is there for their treatment. So that's been a very big advantage.
Speaker #8: We've worked very hard to improve access to YCAMP, both through the buy-and-bill mechanism where the company focused initially on the launch, and also through our expanding pharmacy network where, you know, patients can access the drug via a doctor writing a script to the pharmacy.
Speaker #8: And that pharmacy couriering under a white-bag service right back to the doctor. So that goes into the normal pharmacy benefit. Commercial patients only pay up to $25 for two applicators.
Speaker #8: And the drug, you know, is there for their treatment. So that's been a very big advantage a lot of these doctors, particularly dermatologists, have preferred local pharmacies that they work with historically, and provide great customer service.
Jayson Rieger: A lot of these doctors, particularly dermatologists, have preferred local pharmacies that they work with historically and provide great customer service, and that provides, you know, very rapid access to the drug for treatment of their patients. In terms of compounded cantharidin, you know, as we've said in the past, you know, it is, you know, on the bulk drugs list. It is available, and, you know, clinicians can access it. We've seen a significant change in that utilization. We still do find it, you know, on-site from time to time, but it is allowed to be used for common warts and other indications. But we've seen a larger adoption of the use of compounded cantharidin, you know, only for that indication and much more use of YKANS for molluscum.
Speaker #8: And that provides, you know, very rapid access to the drug for treatment of their patients. In terms of compounded comparative, you know, as we've said in the past, you know, it is, you know, on the bulk drugs list, it is available and, you know, clinicians can access it.
Speaker #8: we've seen, significant change in that utilization. we still do find it, you know, on-site from time to time. But it is allowed to be used for common warts and other indications.
Speaker #8: But we've seen a larger adoption of the use of compounded comparative, you know, only for that indication. And much more use of YCAMP for moluscum.
Speaker #8: we continue to simply advocate for the value proposition of YCAMP for the patients, you know, and the clinicians, that are treating them. In terms of consensus, you know, I appreciate you always asking, for forward-looking guidance.
Jayson Rieger: We continue to simply advocate for the value proposition of YKANS for the patients, you know, and the clinicians that are treating them. In terms of consensus, you know, I appreciate you always asking for forward-looking guidance. I know that, you know, 15 to $20 million is sort of where the analysts seem to be, as you indicated. I think our goal is to continue to execute quarter over quarter in growing, you know, the number of applicators dispensed, you know, and our underlying revenue. So at this point, you know, we need to grow, continue to push, and make that happen. and we'll see where the next, you know, rest of the year comes from.
Speaker #8: I know that, you know, 15 to 20 million dollars is sort of where the analyst, you know, seem to be as you indicated. I think our goal is to continue to execute quarter-over-quarter in growing, you know, the number of applicators dispensed, you know, underlying and underlying revenue.
Speaker #8: So, at this point, you know, we continue to grow, continue to push, and make that happen. and we'll see where the next, you know, rest of the year comes from.
Speaker #7: Understood. Thank you.
Stacy Ku: Understood. Thank you.
Speaker #8: Thank you, Stacy.
Jayson Rieger: Thank you, Stacy.
Speaker #7: Thank you. And we'll next go to Serge Blunder with Needham and Company, please go ahead.
Kevin Gardner: Thank you. And we'll next go to Serge Blunder with Needham & Company. Please go ahead.
Speaker #9: Hi, good afternoon. This is, John. I'm for Serge today. congrats on, the continued progress and thanks for taking my questions. so you reported another solid quarter of, growth in dispensed applicator units.
John (for Serge Blunder): Hi, good afternoon. This is John. I'm for Serge today. Congrats on the continued progress, and thanks for taking my questions. so you reported another solid quarter of, growth in dispensed applicator units, you know, 17% in Q1 and now 33% in Q2. so since we're still in peak season here for molluscum, I just wanted to gauge if we should expect, similar growth for Q3 or more of a less pronounced growth trajectory just based on seasonality trends. and then second, regarding patient access, I believe you previously mentioned the majority of pediatrics are covered under Medicaid. just curious how progress is going, there and any updates on the derm side, particularly pertaining to improvements in commercial coverage. Thanks.
Speaker #9: you know, 17% in Q1 and now 33% in Q2. so since we're still in peak season here for moluscum, I just wanted to gauge if we should expect a similar growth for Q3 or more of a less pronounced growth trajectory just based on seasonality trends.
Speaker #9: and then second, regarding, patient access, I believe you've previously mentioned the majority of pediatrics are covered under Medicaid. just curious how progress is going, there and any updates on the derm side, particularly pertaining to improvements in commercial coverage.
Speaker #9: Thanks.
Speaker #8: Thank you. So, in terms of, you know, general guidance, you know, we don't really give that, you know, what we can say is moluscum seems to be a disease that exists, you know, around.
Jayson Rieger: Thank you. So in terms of, you know, general guidance, you know, we don't really give that. You know, what we can say is molluscum seems to be a disease that exists year-round. it's often diagnosed as a secondary diagnosis when a parent's at a pediatrician and and asks for, you know, what is this spot on my child? And we're trying to capture and encourage, that treatment, rather than a watch and wait mentality. And we're seeing, adoption of that approach both by pediatricians and by dermatologists. we're seeing an uptick in the number of pediatricians and the number of ophthalmologists both who treat, you know, molluscum with YKANS. So we're seeing that trend, you know, continue. In terms of, you know, just the general accessibility of the drug, I think that's where the growth is going to continue to come.
Speaker #8: It's often diagnosed as a secondary diagnosis when a parent sees a pediatrician and asks, "What is this spot on my child?"
Speaker #8: And we're trying to capture and encourage, that treatment, rather than a watch-and-wait mentality. And we're seeing, adoption of that approach both by pediatricians and by dermatologists.
Speaker #8: we're seeing an uptick in the number of pediatricians and the number of ophthalmologists both who treat, you know, moluscum with with YCAMP. So we're seeing that trend, you know, continue.
Speaker #8: In terms of, you know, just the general accessibility of the drug, I think that's where the growth is going to continue to come. As, you know, it's easier for clinicians to gain access to the product, and the coverage continues to expand, that will continue to help.
Jayson Rieger: As, you know, it's easier for clinicians to gain access to the product and the coverage continues to expand, that will continue to help. You know, every quarter we seem to get greater access on either Medicaid or commercial access to YKANS across the country as we build robust coverage both on the medical and the pharmacy side. So every quarter we seem to get greater coverage in, you know, one of those sort of four categories, and we continue to use that as a driving factor for bringing on and expanding our sales force and our commercialization efforts.
Speaker #8: You know, every quarter we seem to get greater access on either Medicaid or commercial access to YCAMP across the country. And as we build robust coverage, both on the medical and the pharmacy side.
Speaker #8: So every quarter we seem to get greater coverage in, you know, one of those sort of four categories. And we continue to use that as a driving factor for bringing on and expanding our sales force and our commercialization efforts.
Speaker #9: Great. Thanks for the color.
John (for Serge Blunder): Great. Thanks for the color.
Speaker #8: Yep.
Jayson Rieger: Yeah.
Speaker #7: Thank you. As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you'd like to ask a question that is star one on your telephone keypad, we'll go next to Kim Doliver with Brooklyn Capital.
Kevin Gardner: Thank you. As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you'd like to ask a question, that is star one on your telephone keypad. We'll go next to Kemp Dolliver with Brooklyn Capital. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Please go ahead.
Speaker #10: Hi, good afternoon. a couple of questions on, the receivables. And then, GTN, you know, the receivables had a pretty sharp, increase quarter to quarter.
Kemp Dolliver: Hi, good afternoon. A couple of questions on the receivables and then GTN. You know, the receivables had a pretty sharp increase quarter to quarter. Can you comment on the drivers of that? Because they looked like they were in excess of the growth in revenue sequentially. And then also, what are you seeing with GTN, particularly with the increased use of the $25 co-pay program? Thank you.
Speaker #10: can you comment on, the drivers of that? Because they look like they were in excess of the growth in revenue sequentially. And then also, what are you seeing with GTN, particularly with the increased use of the $25 copay program?
Speaker #10: Thank you.
Speaker #8: Hey, Kim. This is John. thanks for your question. So, so remember that our collection terms are 60 days. so, you know, if you think about it, things that were sold in the second and third month of the quarter are being collected in the first and second month of the following quarter.
John Kirby: Hey, Ken. This is John. Thanks for your question. So remember that our collection terms are 60 days. So, you know, if you think about it, things that were sold in the second and third month of the quarter are being collected in the first and second month of the following quarter. So that gives rise to part of the increase. Also, from your second question, which.
Speaker #8: So, so that gives rise to part, of the increase. also, from the, your second question, which.
Speaker #9: Cross the net.
Jayson Rieger: Gross Bennett.
Speaker #8: Just cross the net. Sorry. So, you know, you can our WAC is out there. You can get a rough estimate from the, dispensed applicator units, which we, are, disclosing or have disclosed for the second quarter and the first quarter.
John Kirby: Is Gross Bennett. Sorry. So, you know, our WAC is out there. You can get a rough estimate from the dispensed applicator units, which we are disclosing or have disclosed for the second quarter and the first quarter. As Jayson noted in his comments during the beginning of the call, right, we do have, we have been, you know, trying to get the product out there and get the patients treated, and the co-pay card has been used. So that may lead to slightly different gross Bennetts in the future, but we haven't given direct guidance on the gross Bennetts. Also, just to, sorry, to come back to your first question, just to confirm, my comments were around the commercial receivables. The 8 million Tori receivable was included in a separate line item on the balance sheet, but that was another 8 million in receivable.
Speaker #8: as Jason noted in his comments during the, the beginning of the call, right, we, we do have, we have been, you know, trying to get the product out there and get the patients, treated.
Speaker #8: And the copay card has been used, so that may lead to slightly different gross than that's in the future, but we haven't given direct guidance on the gross than that's.
Speaker #8: Also, just to, sorry to come back to your first question, just to confirm my comments were around the commercial receivables. The $8 million Tory receivable was included in a separate line item on the, on the balance sheet.
Speaker #8: But that was another $8 million in receivable. But obviously, that's a, unique item, shall we say.
John Kirby: But obviously, that's a unique item, shall we say?
Speaker #10: Right. And higher quality. And then just to clarify, on the GTN, has the, have you changed WAC since launch?
Kemp Dolliver: Right. And the higher quality. And then just to clarify on the GTN, have you changed WAC since launch?
Speaker #8: We have not.
John Kirby: We have not.
Speaker #10: Okay. Thanks.
Kemp Dolliver: Okay. Thanks.
Speaker #7: Thank you. And that does conclude today's question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Jason Rieger for final and closing remarks.
Kevin Gardner: Thank you. And that does conclude today's question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Jayson Rieger for final and closing remarks.
Speaker #8: Thank you, operator. I'd just like to thank everyone for joining the call this evening and, we look forward to providing updates on our progress throughout 2025.
Jayson Rieger: Thank you, operator. I'd just like to thank everyone for joining the call this evening, and we look forward to providing updates on our progress throughout 2025. Have a great evening.
Speaker #8: have a great evening.
Kevin Gardner: Thank you. And this does conclude today's program. We thank you for your participation. You may disconnect at any time.