Q4 2025 ScanSource Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Welcome to the ScanSource quarterly earnings conference call. All lines have been placed in a listen-only mode until the question-and-answer session. Today's call is being recorded.
Steve Jones: Welcome to the ScanSource Quarterly Earnings Conference call. All lines have been placed in a listen-only mode until the question and answer session. Today's call is being recorded. If anyone has any objections, you may disconnect at this time. I would now like to turn the call over to Mary Gentry, Senior Vice President, Finance and Treasurer. Ma'am, you may begin.
Speaker #1: If anyone has any objections, you may disconnect at this time. I would now like to turn the call over to Mary Gentry, Senior Vice President, Finance and Treasurer.
Speaker #1: Ma'am, you may begin.
Speaker #2: Good morning, and thank you for joining us. Our call will include prepared remarks from Mike Baur, our Chair and CEO, and Stephen Jones, our Chief Financial Officer.
Mary Gentry: Good morning and thank you for joining us. Our call will include prepared remarks from Mike Baur, our Chair and CEO, and Steve Jones, our Chief Financial Officer. We will review our operating results for the quarter and the year and then take your questions. We posted an earnings infographic that accompanies our comments and webcasts in the Investor Relations section of our website. As you know, certain statements in our press release, infographic on this call are forward-looking statements and subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations. These risks and uncertainties include the factors identified in our earnings release and in our Form 10-K for the year ended June 30, 2025. Forward-looking statements represent our views only as of today, and ScanSource disclaims any duty to update these statements except as required by law.
Speaker #2: We will review our operating results for the quarter and the year, and then take your questions. We posted an earnings infographic that accompanies our comments and webcasts in the Investor Relations section of our website.
Speaker #2: As you know, certain statements in our press release and infographic on this call are forward-looking statements and are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations.
Speaker #2: These risks and uncertainties include the factors identified in our earnings release and in our Form 10-K for the year ended June 30, 2025. Forward-looking statements represent our views only as of today, and ScanSource disclaims any duty to update these statements except as required by law.
Speaker #2: During our call, we will discuss both GAAP and non-GAAP results and have provided reconciliations on our website and in our Form 8-K. I'll now turn the call over to Mike.
Mary Gentry: During our call, we will discuss both GAAP and non-GAAP results and have provided reconciliations on our website and in our Form 8-K. I will now turn the call over to Mike.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Mary. And thanks to everyone for joining us today. We are excited about the growth opportunities ahead for our channel partners and the expanding role of technology distribution.
Mike Baur: Thanks, Mary, and thanks everyone for joining us today. We are excited about the growth opportunities ahead for our channel partners and the expanding role of technology distribution. The convergence of IT, connectivity, and cloud computing is propelling a shift toward converged solutions that are redefining success in technology distribution. We are the leading technology distributor uniquely positioned to build cutting-edge skills, capabilities, and expertise to excel in a connected, cloud-driven world. We believe end users face increasing complexity when making technology investment decisions. Because of this complexity, end users are looking to the indirect channel for their technology solutions, given the need for integration and the number of solutions, especially as advanced technologies like AI become part of the solution. Our multiple sales channels are a key competitive advantage for ScanSource with our suppliers as they seek new routes to market.
Speaker #3: The convergence of IT, connectivity, and cloud computing is propelling a shift toward converged solutions that are redefining success in technology distribution. We are the leading technology distributor uniquely positioned to build cutting-edge skills, capabilities, and expertise to excel in a connected, cloud-driven world.
Speaker #3: We believe end users face increasing complexity when making technology investment decisions. Because of this complexity, end users are looking to the indirect channel for their technology solutions.
Speaker #3: Given the need for integration and the number of solutions, especially as advanced technologies like AI become part of the solution, our multiple sales channels are a key competitive advantage for ScanSource.
Speaker #3: With our suppliers as they seek new routes to market. Our channel partners have different skills and capabilities, and for certain opportunities, they will take advantage of additional services that ScanSource can deliver to end users on behalf of our partners.
Mike Baur: Our channel partners have different skills and capabilities, and for certain opportunities, they will take advantage of additional services that ScanSource can deliver to end users on behalf of our partners. We are building capabilities that end users require and our partners demand in our converging technology ecosystem. This includes an innovative supplier portfolio, financial enablement, expert pre- and post-sales engineering support, powerful tools, marketing support, and an exceptional customer experience. Last quarter, we announced the creation of LaunchPoint, a new business development team that will identify and assist emerging innovative technology growth companies as they are getting ready for channel success. The LaunchPoint team has an active pipeline of innovative suppliers and has recently signed contracts with companies offering products to enhance our Smart Warehouse initiative, which includes private cellular networks, robotics, drones, and additional IoT solutions.
Speaker #3: We are building capabilities that end users require and our partners demand in our converging technology ecosystem. This includes an innovative supplier portfolio, financial enablement, expert pre- and post-sales engineering support, powerful tools, marketing support, and an exceptional customer experience.
Speaker #3: Last quarter, we announced the creation of LaunchPoint, a new business development team that will identify and assist emerging, innovative technology growth companies as they are getting ready for channel success.
Speaker #3: LaunchPoint, the LaunchPoint team, has an active pipeline of innovative suppliers and has recently signed contracts with companies offering products to enhance our smart warehouse initiative, which includes private cellular networks, robotics, drones, and additional IoT solutions.
Speaker #3: We have channel partners in both segments that have end user demand for converging solutions that include hardware, software, and services. To illustrate with an example, we have a channel sales partner who developed a converged solution for a leading auto parts retailer that bundled wireless connectivity plans with 30,000 mobile computing devices.
Mike Baur: We have channel partners in both segments that have end user demand for converging solutions that include hardware, software, and services. To illustrate with an example, we have a channel sales partner who developed a converged solution for a leading auto parts retailer that bundled wireless connectivity plans with 30,000 mobile computing devices. Our ability to support the converged solution was a differentiator, allowing the partner to win the deal and providing the end user with an improved business outcome. We see hardware plus software plus services convergence as the future of technology distribution. This is the vision for our strategic plan and the new three-year strategic goals that Steve will introduce in his remarks.
Speaker #3: Our ability to support the converged solution was a differentiator, allowing the partner to win the deal and providing the end user with an improved business outcome.
Speaker #3: We see hardware, plus software, plus services convergence as the future of technology distribution. This is the vision for our strategic plan and the new three-year strategic goals that Steve will introduce in his remarks.
Speaker #3: Our goals reflect our confidence in our growth strategy to deliver complex, converging solutions for our partner ecosystem that will increase our addressable market. I'll now turn the call over to Steve to take you through our financial results and outlook for fiscal year 2026.
Mike Baur: Our goals reflect our confidence in our growth strategy to deliver complex converging solutions for our partner ecosystem that will increase our addressable market. I will now turn the call over to Steve to take you through our financial results and outlook for fiscal year 2026.
Speaker #4: Thanks, Mike. Q4 was a strong close to our fiscal year. We delivered on our guidance for revenue, adjusted EBITDA, and free cash flow. Net sales returned to growth, and we delivered strong profitability.
Steve Jones: Thanks, Mike. Q4 was a strong close to our fiscal year. We delivered on our guidance for revenue, adjusted EBITDA, and free cash flow. Net sales returned to growth, and we delivered strong profitability. Net sales for the quarter grew almost 9% year-over-year, while adjusted EBITDA grew 13% and non-GAAP net income grew 17% over last year. Our Q4 non-GAAP earnings per share of $1.02 grew 27.5% year-over-year. Turning to our segments, I want to call your attention to additional information that we included in our earnings infographic on our key technologies and growth drivers. I will start with our Specialty Technology Solutions segment. Net sales increased 9% year-over-year and 16% quarter-over-quarter, with broad-based hardware growth in North America led by double-digit growth in mobility and barcode, physical security, and managed connectivity. We also benefited from some large deals that were pulled in late in the quarter.
Speaker #4: Net sales for the quarter grew almost 9% year over year, while adjusted EBITDA grew 13%, and non-GAAP net income grew 17% over last year.
Speaker #4: Our Q4 non-GAAP earnings per share of $1.02 grew 27.5% year over year. Now, turning to our segments, I want to call your attention to additional information that we included in our earnings infographic on our key technologies and growth drivers.
Speaker #4: I'll start with our specialty technology solution segment. Net sales increased 9% year over year and 16% quarter over quarter, with broad-based hardware growth in North America led by double-digit growth in mobility and barcode, physical security, and managed connectivity.
Speaker #4: We also benefited from some large deals that were pulled in late in the quarter. We estimate the pull-ins contributed $30 million to $40 million of revenue in Q4.
Steve Jones: We estimate the pull-ins contributed $30 to $40 million in revenue in Q4. Gross profits followed revenues growing 8% year-over-year, reflecting a higher mix of hardware for the quarter. For the segment, the percent of gross profits from recurring revenues totaled approximately 11%. Segment gross profit margin was similar to last year at 10.3%, while the segment adjusted EBITDA margin was up 35 basis points to 3.6%. In our Intelisys & Advisory segment, net sales and gross profits increased 1% year-over-year, including the positive contribution from our Resourcive acquisition, while adjusted EBITDA for the segment declined 4% due to increasing investments in SG&A to drive future billings growth and expand our technical capabilities in emerging technologies like AI. Annual end user billing for Intelisys increased 4.5% year-over-year to bring annualized net billings to approximately $2.8 billion, including double-digit growth year-over-year in CX, which includes UCaaS, CCaaS, and AI-enabled CX solutions.
Speaker #4: Gross profits followed revenues growing 8% year over year, reflecting a higher mix of hardware for the quarter. For the segment, the percent of gross profits from recurring revenues totaled approximately 11%.
Speaker #4: Segment gross profit margin was similar to last year at 10.3%, while the segment adjusted EBITDA margin was up 35 basis points to 3.6%. In our Intelligence and Advisory segment, net sales and gross profits increased 1% year over year, including the positive contribution from our resource acquisition.
Speaker #4: While adjusted EBITDA for the segment declined 4% due to increasing investments in SG&A to drive future billings growth and expand our technical capabilities in emerging technologies like AI.
Speaker #4: Annual end-user billing for Intellisys increased 4.5% year over year, bringing annualized net billings to approximately $2.8 billion. This includes double-digit growth year over year in CX, which encompasses UCaaS, CCaaS, and AI-enabled CX solutions.
Speaker #4: This segment operates in a very competitive landscape, as sales models and partner needs evolve. We believe that we have a unique competitive position with combined capabilities from our businesses in both segments, as we enable the channel model of the future.
Steve Jones: This segment operates in a very competitive landscape as sales models and partner needs evolve. We believe that we have a unique competitive position with the combined capabilities from our businesses in both segments as we enable the channel model of the future. As we look back on our full-year results, we delivered strong profit growth while facing tough market conditions. Full-year net sales totaled just over $3 billion, a year-over-year decline of 6.7%, while gross profits of $408.6 million and adjusted EBITDA of $144.7 million grew by 2.4% and 2.8% respectively. Gross profit margins increased 120 basis points year-over-year to 13.4%, and adjusted EBITDA margins increased 45 basis points to 4.76%. For the year, recurring revenues represented 32.8% of our consolidated gross profits compared to 27.5% last year. The higher contributions and concentration of netted down revenues is the primary driver of our improved margins.
Speaker #4: As we look back on our full year results, we delivered strong profit growth while facing tough market conditions. Full year net sales totaled just over $3 billion, a year-over-year decline of 6.7%, while gross profits of $48.6 million and adjusted EBITDA of $144.7 million grew by 2.4% and 2.8%, respectively.
Speaker #4: Gross profit margins increased 120 basis points year over year to 13.4%, and adjusted EBITDA margins increased 45 basis points to 4.76%. For the year, recurring revenues represented 32.8% of our consolidated gross profits, compared to 27.5% last year.
Speaker #4: The higher contributions and concentration of netted down revenues in the is the primary driver of our improved margins. Non-gap net income of 85.1 million dollars is an increase of 9.6% over last year, and full year free cash flow of 104 million dollars represents 122% conversion of our non-gap net income.
Steve Jones: Non-GAAP net income of $85.1 million is an increase of 9.6% over last year, and full-year free cash flow of $104 million represents a 122% conversion of our non-GAAP net income. Non-GAAP EPS of $3.57 increased by 15.9% year-over-year, including the benefit of share repurchases, which totaled $107 million. Going a bit deeper on our balance sheet and cash flow, we ended Q4 with $126 million in cash and a net debt leverage ratio at approximately zero on a trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA basis. Adjusted ROIC for the quarter is 14.9%, and full-year adjusted ROIC is 13.6%. Our Resourcive and Advantix acquisitions completed last August were accretive to both EPS and ROIC for both the quarter and the full-year results. Share repurchases for the quarter totaled $25 million, and we're pleased with the contributions from our two acquisitions and what they bring to our channel capabilities and our strategic plans.
Speaker #4: Non-GAAP EPS of $3.57 increased by 15.9% year over year, including the benefit of share repurchases, which totaled $107 million. Going a bit deeper on our balance sheet and cash flow, we ended Q4 with $126 million in cash and a net debt leverage ratio at approximately zero on a trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA basis.
Speaker #4: Adjusted ROIC for the quarter is 14.9%, and full-year adjusted ROIC is 13.6%. Our resource of advantage acquisitions completed last August were accretive to both EPS and ROIC for both the quarter and the full-year results.
Speaker #4: Share repurchases for the quarter totaled $25 million, and we are pleased with the contributions from our two acquisitions and what they bring to our channel capabilities and our strategic plans.
Speaker #4: We have an active pipeline of acquisition targets for both segments. These targets could expand our capabilities and help us drive additional value across our partner ecosystem while supporting our strategic goals.
Steve Jones: We have an active pipeline of acquisition targets for both segments. These targets could expand our capabilities and help us drive additional value across our partner ecosystem while supporting our strategic goals. As we start our new fiscal year and we think about delivering on our strategic plans, we want to clarify our capital allocation framework. We'll continue to maintain our discipline in evaluating M&A opportunities and believe there's room for both acquisitions and share repurchases while maintaining a targeted net debt leverage of one to two times adjusted EBITDA. We want to provide FY26 full-year outlook, and we believe that the full-year net sales will range between $3.1 billion and $3.3 billion. Full-year adjusted EBITDA will range between $150 million and $160 million, and we'll deliver at least $80 million in free cash flow.
Speaker #4: As we start our new fiscal year, we reflect on delivering our strategic plans. We want to clarify our capital allocation framework.
Speaker #4: We'll continue to maintain our discipline in evaluating M&A opportunities and believe there's room for both acquisitions and share repurchases while maintaining a targeted net debt leverage of 1 to 2 times adjusted EBITDA.
Speaker #4: We want to provide the FY26 full year outlook, and we believe that the full year net sales will range between $3.1 billion and $3.3 billion.
Speaker #4: Full-year adjusted EBITDA will range between $150 million and $160 million. We will deliver at least $80 million in free cash flow.
Speaker #4: We also believe that revenue will accelerate in the second half of our fiscal year and expect low single-digit growth for the first half as we continue to navigate the dynamic macro environment.
Steve Jones: We also believe that revenue will accelerate in the second half of our fiscal year and expect low single-digit growth for the first half as we continue to navigate the dynamic macro environment. Our adjusted EBITDA is expected to grow year-over-year and includes investments we believe will help us drive expanding margins. Our free cash flow expectations reflect the confidence we have in our team's ability to manage working capital while taking advantage of growth opportunities. Today, we are also introducing new three-year strategic goals. Our new goals are included in the infographic that accompanies our earnings release and our updated investor presentation posted on our website. Our new goals replace our midterm goals we initiated several years ago and successfully delivered.
Speaker #4: Our adjusted EBITDA is expected to grow year over year and includes investments we believe will help us drive expanding margins. Our free cash flow expectations reflect the confidence we have in our team's ability to manage working capital while taking advantage of growth opportunities.
Speaker #4: Today, we're also introducing new three-year strategic goals. Our new goals are included in the infographic that accompanies our earnings release and the updated investor presentation posted on our website.
Speaker #4: Our new goals replace our midterm goals we initiated several years ago and successfully delivered. We updated our targets for adjusted EBITDA margin, the percent of gross profits from recurring revenue, and ROIC.
Steve Jones: We updated our targets for adjusted EBITDA margin, the percent of gross profits from recurring revenue, and ROIC. We have included GP growth as a better metric to represent business growth, and we are introducing a new free cash flow metric. Our goals reflect our confidence in our strategy and the drivers we have to create long-term value for our shareholders. We will now open it up for questions.
Speaker #4: We've included GP growth as a better metric to represent business growth, and we're introducing a new free cash flow metric. Our goals reflect our confidence in our strategy and the drivers we have to create long-term value for our shareholders.
Speaker #4: We'll now open it up for questions.
Speaker #1: Thank you. At this time, we'll conduct the question-and-answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you'll need to press star one-one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced.
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Speaker #5: Okay, thanks. Good morning, and congrats on a strong finish to the year-end. I just wanted to start on the midterm targets. I noticed that free cash flow as a percent of net income was included.
Adam Tindle: Okay, thanks. Good morning and congrats on a strong finish to the year-end. I just wanted to start on the midterm targets. I noticed that free cash flow as a percent of net income was included. Steve Jones, I wonder if you could maybe just expand a little bit on why to include that metric. Obviously, I was happy to see it, but just a little bit more on the conversation on including that metric. If we start doing some math here, based on your current leverage, which is fairly minimal, and then the future cash generation, we're going to have quite a bit of cash coming in. I think you mentioned it on there, but if you could just talk a little bit more about the capital allocation priorities with that incremental cash. Then I have a follow-up. Thanks.
Speaker #5: Steve, I wonder if you could maybe just expand a little bit on why to include that metric. Obviously, I was happy to see it, but just a little bit more on the conversation about including that metric.
Speaker #5: And if we start doing some math here, you know, based on your current leverage, which is fairly minimal, and in the future cash generation, we're going to have quite a bit of cash coming in.
Speaker #5: I think you mentioned it earlier, but could you talk a little bit more about the capital allocation priorities with that incremental cash?
Speaker #5: And then I have a follow-up. Thanks.
Speaker #4: Sure, Adam. Thanks and good morning. You know, when we thought about the free cash flow conversion metric for our long-term, our kind of longer outlook that we provided, we wanted to do two things.
Steve Jones: Sure, Adam Tindle. Thanks and good morning. When we thought about the free cash flow conversion metric for our long-term, our longer outlook that we provided, we wanted to do two things. One, we wanted to build on the back of what we said before that we were building this cash culture. This, I think, really puts a stake in the ground for us and how we're thinking about the business. We also think this is a key reason why we're very attractive, our financial position is very attractive, is to have this kind of metric and this kind of discipline in generating free cash flow. When we think about our capital allocation framework, we want to do two things. If you look at the combined set of targets that we have for our three-year goals, you'll see several things. One is we need to expand our gross profit.
Speaker #4: One, we wanted to build on the back of what we said before that we were building this cash culture. This, I think, really puts a stake in the ground for us and how we're thinking about the business.
Speaker #4: We also think this is a key reason why we're very attractive. Our financial position is very attractive, and having this kind of metric and this kind of discipline in generating free cash flow is critical.
Speaker #4: When we think about our capital allocation framework, we want to do two things. If you look at the combined set of targets that we have for our three-year goals, you'll see several things.
Speaker #4: One is we need to expand our GP. We also are expanding that percent of recurring revenue. That will come through acquisition and faster growth than some of these emerging technologies.
Steve Jones: We also are expanding that % of recurring revenue. That will come through acquisition and faster growth in some of these emerging technologies that we have. We also think it's important to balance that with returning cash to shareholders when we don't have opportunities to deploy that to help us hit those goals.
Speaker #4: That we have. But we also think it's important to balance that with returning cash to shareholders when we don't have opportunities to deploy that to help us hit those goals.
Speaker #5: Okay, got it. Yeah, I wonder if it might make sense at some point to kind of, you know, split up and do a percentage of cash flow for shareholder return or a pie chart or something like that.
Adam Tindle: Okay, got it. I wonder if it might make sense at some point to kind of, you know, split up and do a percentage of cash flow for shareholder return or a pie chart or something like that. Is that something you guys would consider?
Speaker #5: Is that something you guys would consider?
Speaker #4: Still early in our ability to generate cash. You know, we think we've gone out here and put some pretty aggressive three-year goals out there.
Steve Jones: Still early in our ability to generate cash. We think we've gone out here and put some pretty aggressive three-year goals out there.
Speaker #5: Okay, that's fair. And maybe, Mike, as a follow-up, obviously, as we kind of look at the segment results, the Intellisys and Advisory segment has very healthy margins in total and attractive margins.
Adam Tindle: Okay, that is fair. Maybe Mike, as a follow-up, obviously, as we look at the segment results, the Intelisys & Advisory segment has very healthy margin in total and attractive margins. The adjusted EBITDA, I think you said, was down for the year. I just wonder if you might expand a little bit more, how you are thinking about that segment strategically. On a forward basis, I think in the press release, it talked a little bit about investments expected in fiscal 2026. I wonder if maybe it is related to that segment or if you could expand on the nature of the investments that you are thinking about. Thanks.
Speaker #5: But the adjusted EBITDA, I think you said, was down for the year. I just wonder if you might expand a little bit more on how you're thinking about that segment strategically.
Speaker #5: And on a forward basis, I think in the press release, it talked a little bit about investments expected in fiscal 2026. I wonder if maybe it's related to that segment, or if you could expand on the nature of the investments that you're thinking about.
Speaker #5: Thanks.
Speaker #3: Yeah, sure. Sure, Adam. Good morning. We believe that the opportunity to grow the Intellisys business is substantial. One of the things that we learned over the last couple of years, as we saw the competitive pressures from some of the PE-backed companies, was that there was a land grab for partners and their business.
Mike Baur: Yeah, sure, sure, Adam. Good morning. We believe that the opportunity to grow the Intelisys business is substantial. One of the things that we learned over the last couple of years, as we saw the competitive pressures from some of the PE-backed companies, there was a land grab for partners and their business. Along the way, we did everything we could in our old model to retain that. What we are learning is that we need to do some new things. A couple of those that we have already invested in last year that really will see the payoff over time is a different partner segmentation strategy to make sure that we are providing the right, I will call it mix of services for partners. We tended to treat our partners mostly based just on volume historically, and we have changed that.
Speaker #3: And along the way, we did everything we could in our old model to retain that. What we are learning is that we need to do some new things.
Speaker #3: And a couple of those that we've already invested in last year that really will see the payoff over time is a different partner segmentation strategy to make sure that we're providing the right, I'll call it, mix of services for partners.
Speaker #3: We tended to treat our partners mostly based just on volume historically, and we've changed that. Under Ken's leadership, our team has added more headcount to focus on strategic partners. A strategic partner for us going forward is a partner that can grow.
Mike Baur: Under Ken's leadership, our team has added more headcount to focus on strategic partners. A strategic partner for us going forward is a partner that can grow. In the past, we were frankly having partners that were earning a lot of resources and taking resources from our teams, but they were not growing. We really are driving a new sales demand strategy around finding the places that growth is happening and putting our resources there. We have done a significant amount of reorganization within the Intelisys team. What we have learned is that our partners trust us, that we have this level of trust about the simple stuff for us, which is making sure that partners get paid on time and accurately.
Speaker #3: In the past, we had partners who were earning a lot of resources and taking resources from our teams, but they weren't growing.
Speaker #3: And so we really are driving a new sales demand strategy around finding the places that growth is happening and putting our resources there.
Speaker #3: So, we've done a significant amount of reorganization within the Intellisys team, and what we've learned is that our partners trust us. We have this level of trust about the simple stuff for us, which is making sure that partners get paid on time.
Speaker #3: And accurately. We believe that we're still the most attractive distributor for these trusted advisors. However, we're also cognizant that we have these private equity-based competitors who are still trying to do a land grab.
Mike Baur: We believe that we are still the most attractive distributor for these trusted advisors, but we are also cognizant that we have these private equity-based competitors who are still trying to do a land grab. We are going to use our balance sheet to better support the growth partners that we believe can drive future opportunities for us. We are going to invest, in some cases, our balance sheet with these partners. We have talked about this in the past. Some of our programs, we have got some new names for them, but there is one we call a revenue accelerator program where we will invest alongside the partner if they are committed to making sure all of that future revenue comes to us exclusively. Those are the things that we have started in FY25 that we will see happen and pay off throughout the year.
Speaker #3: So we're going to use our balance sheet to better support the growth partners that we believe can drive future opportunities for us. So we're going to invest, in some cases, our balance sheet with these partners.
Speaker #3: And we've talked about this in the past. Some of our programs have new names, but there's one we call the Revenue Accelerator Program.
Speaker #3: Well, we'll invest alongside the partner if they are committed to making sure all of that future revenue comes to us exclusively. So those are the things that we've started in FY25.
Speaker #3: That we'll see happen and pay off throughout the year. But we certainly saw in '25 kind of a disappointing growth year because we didn't make these investments in FY24.
Mike Baur: We certainly saw in 2025 kind of a disappointing growth year because we did not make these investments in FY24. I really believe we have got the right team, we have got the right programs, and we are making the right investments because we still believe this business can grow substantially.
Speaker #3: So I really believe we've got the right team; we've got the right programs, and we're making the right investments because we still believe this business can grow substantially.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Adam Tindle: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from the line of Keith Holsom of North Coast Research. Your line is now open.
Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Keith Housum of Northcoast Research. The line is now open.
Speaker #6: Great. Good morning, guys. Congratulations on a good quarter, and thanks for the added information and the infographic on the businesses and what makes all the different segments. Much appreciated.
Adam Tindle: Great. Good morning, guys, and congratulations on a good quarter. Thanks for the added information in the infographic on the businesses and what makes up the different segments. Much appreciated. Just piggybacking on Adam's question in terms of the Intelisys business, it looks like sequentially the revenue is down in that segment, which is a first. Understanding there are some competitive challenges there, but can you perhaps talk about the expectations here as you look into 2026 and how quickly you can turn that around? Is it possible to quantify how much in strategic investments you need to put forward during the year?
Speaker #6: Just kind of piggybacking on Adam's question in terms of the Intellisys business, it looks like sequentially, you know, the revenue is down in that segment, which is a first, and understanding there's some competitive challenges there.
Speaker #6: But perhaps you can talk about the expectations here as you look into '26 and how quickly you can turn that around? And is it possible to quantify how much in strategic investments you need to put forward during the year?
Speaker #3: Yeah, Keith, Mike, again, you know, we've been looking at this, frankly, for more than a year. We saw this and we identified it, I think, three years ago, that there was, as we all know, revenue pressure because we had margin pressure from the land grab by some of the PE-backed competitors who were willing to make little to no margin to get partners to move their business from Intellisys to them based purely on a commission split change.
Mike Baur: Yeah, Keith, Mike again. We have been looking at this frankly for more than a year. We saw this and we identified it, I think, three years ago that there was, as we all know, there was revenue pressure because we had margin pressure from the land grab by some of the PE-backed competitors who were willing to make little to no margin to get partners to move their business from Intelisys to them based purely on a commission split change. We had to decide how to react to that. In some cases, we lost some partners that went away. What we decided to do was let us build for the longer term. One of the things we did last year that I know you remember is we created this new strategy around channel exchange.
Speaker #3: So we had to decide how to react to that. In some cases, we lost some partners that went away. What we decided to do is, all right, let's build for the longer term.
Speaker #3: And one of the things we did last year that I know you remember is we created this new strategy around channel exchange. The reason for that was we needed to start adding new suppliers to help drive growth too.
Mike Baur: The reason for that was we needed to start adding new suppliers to help drive growth too. We had not really added a lot of significant suppliers along the way. We needed the suppliers that some of the strategic partners that we are trying to recruit that I talked about a few minutes ago, the ones that can drive growth, these strategic partners were asking us for suppliers that transacted differently than the old Intelisys model. The channel exchange transaction model, without getting too much in the weeds, is allowing us to add new suppliers. We just added Sophos and Trustifi. We think those are examples of the kind of new opportunities that are going to be incremental to our revenue. These are not suppliers that will replace existing revenue. We have got a pipeline of new suppliers coming online.
Speaker #3: We had not really added a lot of significant suppliers along the way, and we needed the suppliers that some of the strategic partners we’re trying to recruit, that I talked about a few minutes ago, the ones that can drive growth. These strategic partners were asking us for suppliers that transacted differently than the old Intellisys model.
Speaker #3: So the channel exchange transaction model, without getting too much in the weeds, is allowing us to add new suppliers. We just added Sophos and Trustify.
Speaker #3: And we think those are examples of the kind of new opportunities that are going to be incremental to our revenue. And so these aren't suppliers that will replace existing revenue.
Speaker #3: So we've got a pipeline of new suppliers coming online. And again, as we all know, who have been following this Intellisys model, we won't see all of that show up in our revenue as quickly as we'd like; but there are new orders and deals being done now.
Mike Baur: Again, as we all know, we have been following this Intelisys model. We will not see all of that show up in our revenue as quickly as we would like, but there are new orders and deals being done now. We have modeled for FY26 a reasonable approach to growth. What that means is we are doing everything we can to add sales resources, financial enablement, and new suppliers so that as we exit 2026, we expect to be back on a significant growth trajectory.
Speaker #3: And we've modeled for FY26 a reasonable approach to growth. What that means is we're doing everything we can to add sales resources, financial enablement, and new suppliers so that as we exit '26, we expect to be back on a significant growth trajectory.
Speaker #4: Great. As we think about the guidance for next year, perhaps there are some puts and takes on that. Again, coming back to the adjusted EBITDA guidance you guys provided, at the low end of the range is only 3% growth, but at the top end of the range, it's obviously in the double digits.
Adam Tindle: Great. As we think about the guidance for next year, perhaps we need some puts and takes on that. Again, coming back to adjusted EBITDA guidance you guys gave, at the low end of the range, it is only 3% growth, but you had a top end of the range. It is obviously, you know, in the double digits. How are you thinking about, I guess, what has to go right, what has to go wrong in order to meet the top and bottom end of your ranges there?
Speaker #4: How are you thinking about, I guess, what has to go right and what has to go wrong in order to meet the top and bottom end of your ranges there?
Speaker #3: Well, Keith, you know, as we were talking about last year, similar as we're sitting here this year looking at FY26, we see the growth coming in the second half.
Steve Jones: Keith, as we were talking about last year, similar as we are sitting here this year looking at FY26, we see the growth coming in the second half. We see a faster growth trajectory coming in the second half as we are still in this kind of choppy tariff and interest rate environment. The low end of the range, both ends of the range include our investments that we need to make. What Mike Baur was talking about in Intelisys, what we are talking about in our other businesses, we have got investments in that guidance. What we will do as we go along is we will throttle those investments to make sure that we manage to that EBITDA margin. That is how we are thinking about it. The other thing that can swing through there a little bit is mix.
Speaker #3: We see a faster growth trajectory coming in the second half as we're still in this kind of choppy tariff and interest rate environment. So, you know, the low end of the range, both ends of the range, include our investments that we need to make.
Speaker #3: What Mike was talking about in Intellisys, and what we're discussing in our other businesses, we've got investments in that guidance.
Speaker #3: What we'll do as we go along is throttle those investments to make sure that we manage to that EBITDA margin. And so that's how we're thinking about it.
Speaker #3: The other thing that can swing through there a little bit is mix. As we think about the mix, the mix can move around a bit on our EBITDA.
Steve Jones: As we think about the mix, the mix can move around a bit on our EBITDA. Those are the key things that we are thinking about as we think about that range.
Speaker #3: And so those are the key things that we're thinking about as we consider that range.
Speaker #4: Great. I appreciate it. And maybe just one more for me, if you don't mind. You know, talking about three-year strategic goals, getting your recurring revenue as a driver of gross profits up to, you know, building toward 50%.
Adam Tindle: Great. Appreciate it. And maybe just one more from you, if I do not mind. Talking on the three-year strategic goals, getting your recurring revenue as a driver of gross profits up to, building toward 50%, obviously a pretty massive move considering the 31% you have here in this quarter or so. How much of M&A is involved in that versus what you guys believe you can do organically? Then, if is 2026 going to be like a rebuilding year for that? Is this really a 2027, 2028, fiscal year performance?
Speaker #4: Obviously, a pretty massive move considering the 31% you have here in this quarter or so. How much of M&A is in part of that is involved in that versus what you guys believe you can do organically?
Speaker #4: And then, if it's '26 coming to be like a rebuilding year for that, you know, is this really a '27, '28, you know, fiscal year performance?
Speaker #3: Well, Keith, I'll go back to what we call that in our in our prepared remarks. You know, we went from '27 and a half, I think, to 30 almost 33% for the year.
Steve Jones: Keith, I will go back to what we called that in our prepared remarks. We went from 27.5%, I think, to almost 33% for the year in recurring revenue as a percent of our gross profits. A lot of that is because of our acquisitions, and they were not big, but they are very impactful. We also see that those advanced emerging technologies, they are going to transact more in that netted down revenue space. That will help us grow as well. I think Mike has some comments.
Speaker #3: And recurring revenue is a percent of our gross profits. A lot of that is because of our acquisitions, and they weren't big, but they're very impactful.
Speaker #3: We also see that those advanced emerging technologies are going to transact more in that netted down revenue space. And so that will help us grow as well.
Speaker #3: And I think Mike has some comments.
Speaker #4: Yeah. And one other thing we added in our materials we provided, I don't know if you've had a chance to look at them yet, Keith, but on page 12 of our supporting materials, we added a new schedule which shows the recurring revenue, gross profit, and how it's changed over time.
Mike Baur: Yeah, one other thing we added in our materials we provided, I do not know if you have had a chance to look at them yet, Keith, but on page 12 of our supporting materials, we added a new schedule, which shows the recurring revenue, gross profit, and how it has changed over time. If you look at that, we are going in the Specialty Technology area, we were 6.6% back in Q4 of 2024, and now we are at 11%. We are seeing what Steve just said, we are making some acquisitions that seem to be fairly small on the scale of the Advantix and Resourcive, but look at how quickly they can change and add to our recurring revenue contribution.
Speaker #4: And if you look at that, we're going in the specialty technology area. We were 6.6% back in Q4 of '24, and now we're at 11%.
Speaker #4: And so we're seeing what Steve just said: we're making some acquisitions that seem to be fairly small on the scale of the advanced techs and resources. But look at how quickly they can change and add to our recurring revenue contribution.
Speaker #4: So we believe, and if you remember from our last I think it was our last call, I talked about the fact that we have four presidents that each have a strategy around acquisitions.
Mike Baur: We believe, and if you remember from our last, I think it was our last call, I talked about the fact that we have four Presidents that each have a strategy around acquisitions. Each of them have a real focus on how do they increase the recurring revenue in their particular business. We feel very good about the ability to get on this path towards 50%, even as we exit 2026.
Speaker #4: And each of them has a real focus on how to increase the recurring revenue in their particular business. So we feel very good about the ability to get on this path towards 50%, even as we exit '26.
Speaker #4: Great. Thank you. Good luck.
Adam Tindle: Great. Thank you. Good luck.
Speaker #3: Thanks.
Mike Baur: Thanks.
Speaker #1: Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from the line of Gregory Burns of Fidelity. Your line is now open.
Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Gregory Burns of Sidoti. The line is now open.
Speaker #6: Morning. You mentioned some strong, I guess, broad-based growth in the technology segment. Were there any detractors, though, in the quarter?
Adam Tindle: Morning. You mentioned some strong, I guess, broad-based growth in the technology segment. Were there any detractors, though, in the quarter?
Speaker #3: Well, you know, Greg, good morning. We've we continue to have a very profitable business in our communications business. And that's probably the one that that has we've talked about for a very long time, has you know, does not have a growth, you know, a real growth path to it.
Steve Jones: Well, Greg, good morning. We continue to have a very profitable business in our communications business. That's probably the one that we've talked about for a very long time, has a real growth path to it. But it is very profitable for us, and it helps us also sell other solutions. I would say that's the one that probably is setting out there that's the slower growth. I'd also just kind of send you to our infographic. If you look at that Specialty Technology segment, you can kind of see how that breaks out.
Speaker #3: But it is very profitable for us, and it helps us also sell other solutions. So I would say that's the one that probably is setting out there that that's the slower growth.
Speaker #3: I’d also just kind of send you to our infographic. If you look at that specialty technology segment, you can kind of see how that breaks out.
Speaker #6: Oh, great. Thanks. And then can you maybe update us on the outlook for Brazil? Any changes there, and what your expectations are for that market?
Adam Tindle: Oh, great. Thanks. Can you maybe update us on the outlook for Brazil? Any changes there, and what your expectations are for that market?
Speaker #3: Well, you know, Brazil is an interesting an interesting dynamic for us. They're growing in local currency. And they, you know, they've they're now getting ready to lap a pretty significant supplier shift out of out of some channels.
Steve Jones: Well, Brazil's an interesting dynamic for us. They're growing in local currency. They're now getting ready to lap a pretty significant supplier shift out of some channels. We like where Brazil is going. We're just going to have to settle through these FX headwinds that we're seeing.
Speaker #3: And so we like where Brazil is going. We just we're just going to have to settle through these these FX headwinds that we that we're seeing.
Speaker #4: And Greg, this is Mike. One other comment to that. We talked about, obviously, Brazil a lot recently. And what I want to remind our investors is Brazil's business model is what we're trying to move to, frankly, in the U.S.
Mike Baur: Greg, this is Mike. One other comment to that. We talked about, obviously, Brazil a lot recently. What I want to remind our investors is Brazil's business model is what we're trying to move to, frankly, in the U.S. They've been selling many more products that are in the cloud, recurring. They've been selling converged solutions before we started calling them converged solutions. We've been able to, because in Brazil, we're one of the dominant players. We are not a small distributor. There's not the scenario where we can't get suppliers like we have in some cases in the U.S.
Speaker #4: They've been selling many more products that are in the cloud and recurring. They've been selling converged solutions before we started calling them converged solutions. And so really, we've been able to, because in Brazil, we're one of the dominant players.
Speaker #4: We are not a small distributor. There's not the scenario where we can't get suppliers like we have in some cases in the U.S. So we're really—we love the fact that we've got a business that is profitable, that we have a very engaged team, and they're able to recruit suppliers in Brazil and sell the suppliers on the value proposition of ScanSource and our channel.
Mike Baur: We really love the fact that we've got a business that is profitable, that we have a very engaged team, and they're able to recruit suppliers in Brazil and sell the suppliers on the value proposition of ScanSource and our channel in a way that we're still getting suppliers to understand in the U.S. We love that business. We hate the economic environment they go to as a country and a political environment. It's a profitable business, and we have a very strong management team that understands exactly what we're trying to accomplish now in the U.S. with our recurring revenue business.
Speaker #4: In a way that we're still getting suppliers to understand in the U.S. So we love that business. We hate the economic environment they go to as a country and the political environment.
Speaker #4: But it's a profitable business, and we have a very strong management team that understands exactly what we're trying to accomplish now in the U.S. with our recurring revenue business.
Speaker #6: Oh, great. Thank you.
Adam Tindle: Oh, great. Thank you.
Speaker #4: You You bet.
Mike Baur: You bet.
Speaker #1: Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from a line of Damien Cares of UBS. Your line is now open.
Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Damien Cardenas of UBS. The line is now open.
Speaker #7: Hey, good morning, everyone. Congrats on the progress.
Damien Cardenas: Hey, good morning, everyone. Congrats on the progress.
Speaker #3: Thank you. Yeah, thank you.
Mike Baur: Thank you. Yeah, thank you.
Speaker #7: So I just have a couple more specific questions. First, I wanted to ask you about barcoding and mobility solutions and what your expectation is there for that part of the business that you have factored into your fiscal 2026 guidance.
Damien Cardenas: I just have a couple more specific questions. First, I wanted to ask you about barcoding and mobility solutions and what your expectation is there for that part of the business that you have factored into your fiscal 2026 guidance. I think typically the fourth calendar quarter of the year, so your second quarter, is when a lot of the larger project activity often consummates for that part of the business. I am just curious if you think there might still be larger projects that are fewer in number, comparable level maybe to what you saw last year, or if there is the possibility that there might be a larger project ramp as we get through the end of this calendar year.
Speaker #7: And, you know, I think typically, like the fourth calendar quarter of the year, so your guys' second quarter is when a lot of the larger project activity, you know, kind of often consummates for that part of the business.
Speaker #7: Just curious if you think there might be, you know, still larger projects that are fewer in number, you know, comparable level maybe to what, you know, maybe you saw last year, or if there's, you know, the possibility that there might be a larger project ramp as we, you know, kind of get through the end of this calendar year.
Speaker #3: Yeah, thanks for the question. So, you know, when we think about mobility and barcode technologies, what we talked about in our prepared remarks is that it was a great growth area for the fourth quarter.
Steve Jones: Yeah, thanks for the question. So, you know, when we think about the mobility and barcode technologies, what we talk about in our prepared remarks is that was a great growth area for the fourth quarter. What we also want to caveat is we are still facing, in our large deals particularly, some uncertainty in the macro environment that we are not sure if that is a first half or second half growth trajectory for us. So I think it is a bit of a wait and see on when those big deals start rolling out. We saw some of that happen in the fourth quarter. We were happy to see it, but it is not widespread yet.
Speaker #3: What we also want to caveat is we're still facing, in our large deals particularly, some uncertainty in the macro environment that we're not sure if that's a first half or second half growth trajectory for us.
Speaker #3: So, I think it's a bit of a wait and see on when those big deals start rolling out. We saw some of that happen in the fourth quarter.
Speaker #3: We were happy to see it. But it's not widespread yet.
Speaker #7: Really helpful. Thank you. And then I guess kind of a new news item in the last month is, you know, Zebra acquiring ELO.
Damien Cardenas: Really helpful. Thank you. I guess a new news item in the last month is Zebra acquiring Elo. I was just wondering if you could maybe discuss ScanSource's relationship with Elo. Do you think that transaction potentially changes anything on your side for either of those product categories, barcoding and point of sale?
Speaker #7: I was just wondering if you could maybe discuss SCANSOURCE's relationship with ELO and you know do you think that transaction potentially changes anything on on your side for for either of those you know product categories: barcoding and point of sale?
Speaker #3: This is Mike. I'll take that one. We try not to comment on our partners' acquisitions or their strategy, per se. But our relationship with both of them, I can comment on.
Mike Baur: This is Mike. I will take that one. We try not to comment on our partners' acquisitions or their strategy per se, but our relationship with both of them, I can comment on. We have been a long-time partner with Elo, obviously Zebra as well. I talked to both of their CEOs about it and what they are trying to accomplish. For ScanSource, what is interesting is, in general, to be very transparent, consolidation of suppliers rarely helps us. It only helps us if there is a creation of a new market opportunity. We are hoping to see from something like this is they are going to create new solutions that will go to the market in a way that ScanSource and our channel partners can benefit from. There is that there is this idea that that could happen.
Speaker #3: We've been a longtime partner with ELO. Obviously, Zebra as well. I talked to both of their CEOs about it and what they're trying to accomplish.
Speaker #3: And for ScanSource, what is interesting is, in general, to be very transparent, you know, consolidation of suppliers rarely helps us. Okay? It only helps us if there is a creation of a new market opportunity.
Speaker #3: And so, what we're hoping to see from something like this is that they're going to create new solutions that will go to the market in a way that ScanSource and our channel partners can benefit from.
Speaker #3: And there is that there is this idea that that could happen. And we talked about throughout our prepared remarks the idea of converged solutions, which is a multi-vendor a multi-vendor thought.
Mike Baur: We talked about throughout our prepared remarks the idea of converged solutions, which is a multi-vendor thought. That typically means no one vendor can provide all of the pieces to that. Now that you have Zebra and Elo together, there is still going to need to be other parts of that solution that we can provide. Anything they are going to do to invest in retail is good for us. We have always had a strong retail channel presence. We think if this is going to drive new technology at the front end of retail, which is what they communicated, we think that is nothing but positive for ScanSource and our channel partners.
Speaker #3: And what that typically means is no one vendor can provide all of the pieces to that. Now that you have Zebra and ELO together, they're still going to need to be other parts of that solution that we can provide.
Speaker #3: And anything they’re going to do to invest in retail is good for us. We’ve always had a strong retail channel presence. We think if this is going to drive new technology at the front end of retail, which is what they communicated, we think that’s nothing but positive for ScanSource and our channel partners.
Speaker #7: Very interesting. Thank you very much for your thoughts. Good luck.
Damien Cardenas: Very interesting. Thank you very much for your thoughts. Good luck.
Speaker #3: You bet. Thank you.
Mike Baur: You bet. Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Again, as a reminder to ask the question, you'll need to press star one-one on your telephone. And I'm showing no further questions at this time.
Operator: Thank you. Again, as a reminder to ask a question, you will need to press star one-one on your telephone. I am showing no further questions at this time. I will now turn it back to Steve Jones for closing remarks.
Speaker #1: I'll now turn it back to Steve Jones for closing remarks.
Speaker #8: Thank you for joining us today. We expect to hold our next conference call to discuss September 30th quarterly results on Thursday, November 6th, at approximately 10:30 AM.
Steve Jones: Thank you for joining us today. We expect to hold our next conference call to discuss September 30th quarterly results on Thursday, November 6th, at approximately 10:30 A.M.
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