Q1 2026 Alibaba Group Holding Ltd Earnings Call

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Good day, everyone welcome to Alibaba group's June call here to sell it in 25 earnings conference call with US today, I chose high Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Toby Shea Chief Financial Officer, Joe Payne, Chief Executive Officer of Alibaba ecommerce business group. This call is.

Speaker #2: Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Alibaba Group's June quarter 2025 results conference call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode.

Lydia Lu: Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Alibaba Group's June quarter 2025 results conference call. At this time, all participants are on listen-only mode. After management's prepared remarks, there will be a Q&A session. I would now like to turn the call over to Lydia Lu, Head of Investor Relations of Alibaba Group. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: After management's prepared remarks, there will be a Q&A session. I would now like to turn the call over to Lydia Liu, Head of Investor Relations of Alibaba Group.

Also being webcast from the IR section of our coffee website, a replay of the call will be available on our website. Later today now I will quickly cover the safe Harbor today's discussion may contain forward looking statements, particularly statements about our business and financial results that are subject to risks.

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Speaker #3: Good day, everyone. Welcome to Alibaba Group's June quarter 2025 earnings conference call. With us today are Ju Tai, Chairman; Eddie Wu, Chief Executive Officer; Tobi Xu, Chief Financial Officer; and Jiang Fan, Chief Executive Officer of Alibaba E-commerce Business Group.

Rob Lin: Good day, everyone. Welcome to Alibaba Group's June Quarter 2025 earnings conference call. With us today are Joe Tsai, Chairman; Eddie Wu, Chief Executive Officer; Toby Xu, Chief Financial Officer; Jiang Fan, Chief Executive Officer of Alibaba E-Commerce Business Group. This call is also being webcast from the IR section of our corporate website. A replay of the call will be available on our website later today. I will quickly cover the safe harbor. Today's discussions may contain forward-looking statements, particularly statements about our business and financial results that are subject to risks and uncertainties which could cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in the forward-looking statements. Please refer to the safe harbor statements that appear in our press release and investor presentation provided today. Please note that certain financial measures that we use on this call are expressed on a non-GAAP basis.

And uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in the forward looking statements.

Please refer to the stay safe Harbor statements that appear in our press release and Investor presentation provided today. Please note that certain financial measures that we use on this call are expressed on a non-GAAP basis, our GAAP results and Recalculations of GAAP to non-GAAP measures can be found in our earnings press release.

Speaker #3: This call is also being webcast from the IR section of our corporate website. It will play off the call and will be available on our website later today.

Speaker #3: Now, I will quickly cover the stakeholders. Today's discussions may contain forward-looking statements, particularly statements about our business and the financial results that are subject to risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in the forward-looking statements.

And now I would turn the call over to Eddie.

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Hello, everybody and welcome to this quarter's earnings call.

Speaker #3: Please refer to the stakeholder statements that appear in our press release and investor presentation provided today. Please note that certain financial measures that we use on this call are expressed on a nine-gap basis.

This quarter, we delivered solid growth.

Excluding revenue from <unk> and in time, our total revenue on a like for like basis grew 10% year over year.

Revenue growth of our core businesses remained strong customer management revenue from our China E Commerce business rose, 10% year over year Cloud intelligence group revenue growth accelerated to 26% year over year with AI related product revenue, maintaining triple digit growth for the eighth consecutive quarter revenue from <unk> grew by 19% year over year.

Speaker #3: Our gap results and reconciliations of GAAP to non-GAAP measures can be found in our earnings press release. And now I will turn the call over to Eddie.

Rob Lin: Our GAAP results and reconciliations of GAAP to non-GAAP measures can be found in our earnings press release. Now I will turn the call over to Eddie.

Speaker #4: ????????????Hello, everybody, and welcome to this quarter's earnings call. This quarter, we delivered solid growth. Excluding revenue from SunArt and Intime, our total revenue on a like-for-like basis grew 10% year-over-year.

Jiang Fan: 晚上好, 各位投资人朋友。 Hello, everybody, and welcome to this quarter's earnings call. This quarter, we delivered solid growth. Excluding revenue from Sun Art and Intime, our total revenue on a like-for-like basis grew 10% year-over-year. Revenue growth of our core businesses remains strong. Customer management revenue from our China e-commerce business rose 10% year-over-year. Alibaba Cloud Intelligence Group revenue growth accelerated to 26% year-over-year, with AI-related product revenue maintaining triple-digit growth for the eighth consecutive quarter. Revenue from AI DC grew by 19% year-over-year. In AI plus cloud, the accelerated development of AI applications and increasing AI product adoption by customers drove a 26% year-over-year revenue increase from external customers. During the quarter, AI-related revenue accounted for over 20% of revenue from external customers as AI demand continued to grow rapidly. We're also seeing AI applications driving great growth momentum of traditional products, including compute and storage.

And AI plus cloud the accelerated development of AI applications at increasingly high product adoption by customers drove a 26% year over year revenue increase from external customers during.

Speaker #4: Revenue growth of our core businesses remained strong. Customer management revenue from our China e-commerce business rose 10% year-over-year. Cloud Intelligence Group revenue growth accelerated to 26% year-over-year, with AI-related product revenue maintaining triple-digit growth for the eighth consecutive quarter. Revenue from AI/DC grew by 19% year-over-year.

During the quarter <unk> related revenue accounted for over 20% of revenue from external customers.

Demand continued to grow rapidly.

We're also seeing AI applications, driving great growth momentum of traditional products, including compute and storage.

SAP and Alibaba entered a strategic partnership focused on cloud and AI.

Speaker #4: In AI and Cloud, the accelerated development of AI applications and the increasing adoption of AI products by customers drove a 26% year-over-year revenue increase from external customers. During the quarter, AI-related revenue accounted for over 20% of revenue from external customers.

Sap's global cloud computing partner.

Alibaba cloud will support SAP customers to run and manage their core software systems on Alibaba platform leveraging our Q1 models SAP will also provide AI transformation services for its enterprise customers.

Speaker #4: As AI demand continued to grow rapidly, we're also seeing AI applications driving significant growth momentum in traditional products, including compute and storage. SAP and Alibaba entered a strategic partnership focused on cloud and AI.

This partnership signifies the recognition of our cloud infrastructure and AI capabilities by the global leading enterprises in the SAP ecosystem. We've continued to advance the capabilities of our AI Foundation model. Since July Alibaba has released upgraded Q3, including a non thinking model reasoning model <unk> model.

Jiang Fan: SAP and Alibaba entered a strategic partnership focused on cloud and AI. As SAP's global cloud computing partner, Alibaba Cloud will support SAP customers to run and manage their core software systems on Alibaba's platform. Leveraging our Qwen models, SAP will also provide AI transformation services for its enterprise customers. This partnership signifies the recognition of our cloud infrastructure and AI capabilities by the global leading enterprises in the SAP ecosystem. We've continued to advance the capabilities of our AI foundation model. Since July, Alibaba has released upgraded Qwen-3, including a non-thinking model, reasoning model, and AI coding model, which are recognized as global top performers in their respective categories. Notably, our Qwen-3 coder model has rapidly increased Qwen's user adoption in overseas markets. We also open-sourced several models, such as the video generation model Qwen 2.2 and the text-to-image model Qwen Image.

Speaker #4: As SAP's global cloud computing partner, Alibaba Cloud will support SAP customers in running and managing their core software systems on Alibaba's platform. Leveraging our Q1 models, SAP will also provide AI transformation services for its enterprise customers.

Which are recognized as global top performers in their respective categories.

Notably our <unk> model has rapidly increased Q1's Youtube user adoption in overseas markets.

Speaker #4: This partnership signifies the recognition of our cloud infrastructure and AI capabilities by the global leading enterprises in the SAP ecosystem. We've continued to advance the capabilities of our AI foundation models since July. Alibaba has released upgraded Q3, including a non-syncing model, reasoning model, and AI coding model, which are recognized as global top performers in their respective categories.

Also open sourced several models such as the video generation model, one to two and the text to image model Q and image by continuously upgrading our open source models, we're empowering our customers to develop their own AI applications.

Alibaba is one <unk> our native applications continue to advance <unk> has undertaken a comprehensive AI transformation with the launch of <unk> 2025, the world's first AI native location based applications. The upgrade brings spatial intelligence into dynamic real world scenarios, and <unk> is well positioned to become a new gateway for future.

Speaker #4: Notably, our Q3 coder model has rapidly increased Q1's user adoption in overseas markets. We also open-sourced several models, such as the video generation model, WAN 2.2, and the text-to-image model, QN Image.

<unk> services thing talk has also completed its latest upgrades of creating the world's first agent driven work feeds to explore next generation workplace application paradigms.

Speaker #4: By continuously upgrading our open-source models, we're empowering our customers to develop their own AI applications. Meanwhile, Alibaba's own AI-native applications continue to advance. AMAP has undertaken a comprehensive AI transformation with the launch of AMAP 2025.

Jiang Fan: By continuously upgrading our open-source models, we're empowering our customers to develop their own AI applications. Meanwhile, Alibaba's own AI-native applications continue to advance. Amap has undertaken a comprehensive AI transformation with the launch of Amap 2025, the world's first AI-native location-based application. The upgrade brings spatial intelligence into dynamic real-world scenarios, and Amap is well-positioned to become a new gateway for future lifestyle services. DingTalk has also completed its latest AI upgrade, creating the world's first agent-driven work feeds to explore next-generation workplace application paradigms. On our Taobao platform, we see immense AI-powered opportunities emerging, such as AI search and AI advertising platform. In consumption, we undertook a strategic combination of Taobao and Tmall Group, Ele.me, and Freshippo into Alibaba China E-Commerce Group. This organizational change creates a comprehensive consumption platform and upgrades our consumer experience.

On our taobao platform with <unk> AI powered opportunities emerging such as AI search.

Advertising platform.

And consumption.

We undertook a strategic combination of taobao and Tmall group Wilma in fleet into Alibaba, China E Commerce group.

Speaker #4: The world's first AI-native location-based application. The upgrade brings spatial intelligence into dynamic real-world scenarios, and AMAP is well-positioned to become a new gateway for future lifestyle services.

This organizational change creates a comprehensive consumption platform and upgrades our consumer experience, we have consolidated supply chain user basis membership benefits across our businesses and launched a tiered loyalty program that connects <unk> and AML.

Speaker #4: ThinkTalk has also completed its latest AI upgrade, creating the world's first agent-driven work feeds to explore next-generation workplace application paradigms. On our Taobao platform, we see immense AI-powered opportunities emerging, such as AI search and the AI advertising platform.

The newly integrated benefits enhance our members' experience across a full spectrum of consumption scenarios.

Speaker #4: In consumption, we undertook a strategic combination of Taobao and Tmall Group, Illama, and Flicky into the Alibaba China e-commerce group. This organizational change creates a comprehensive consumption platform and upgrades our consumer experience.

<unk> made our investments in quick commerce have rapidly surpassed key milestones and created synergies in August <unk>.

Monthly active consumers on our quick commerce business are approaching $300 million contributing to a 25% increase in monthly active consumers on the taobao app.

Speaker #4: We have consolidated supply chains, user bases, and membership benefits across our businesses and launched a tiered loyalty program that connects Illama, Flicky, and AMAP.

Jiang Fan: We have consolidated supply chains, user bases, and membership benefits across our businesses and launched a tiered loyalty program that connects Ele.me, Freshippo, and Amap. The newly integrated benefits enhance our members' experience across a full spectrum of consumption scenarios. Since May, our investments in QuickCommerce have rapidly surpassed key milestones and created synergies. In August, monthly active consumers on our QuickCommerce business are approaching 300 million, contributing to a 25% increase in monthly active consumers on the Taobao app. Daily order volume of our China E-Commerce Group continued to achieve new records. Looking ahead, Alibaba Group has two historic opportunities: to build a technology platform centered on AI plus cloud and to create a comprehensive shopping and daily life services consumption platform. We will invest at scale to capture the opportunities. This also marks a new entrepreneurial chapter for the company after 26 years.

Daily order volume of our China E. Commerce group continued to achieve New records. Looking ahead Alibaba group has two historic opportunities to build the technology platform centered on AI, plus cloud and to create a comprehensive shopping and daily life services consumption platform, we will invest upscale to capture the opportunities. This also marks a new entrepreneurial.

Speaker #4: The newly integrated benefits enhance our members' experience across a full spectrum of consumption scenarios. Since May, our investments in quick commerce have rapidly surpassed key milestones and created synergies.

Speaker #4: In August, monthly active consumers on our quick commerce business are approaching 300 million, contributing to a 25% increase in monthly active consumers on the Taobao app.

Chapter for the company after 26 years in line with this in February we announced an investment of 380 billion RMB over the next three years to build our cloud and AI infrastructure.

Speaker #4: Daily order volume of our China e-commerce group continued to achieve new records. Looking ahead, Alibaba Group has two historic opportunities: to build a technology platform centered on AI + Cloud and to create a comprehensive shopping and daily life services consumption platform.

In July we announced plans to invest 50 billion RMB and consumption.

The transformative impact of AI on all industries combined with a deep integration of AI and cloud will present, the most significant opportunity in the technology sector over the next decade for Alibaba, we have the world's fourth largest in Asia, leading cloud infrastructure, along with full stock technology capability spanning AI computing power AI cloud platforms AI models.

Speaker #4: We will invest at scale to capture the opportunities. This also marks a new entrepreneurial chapter for the company after 26 years. In line with this, in February, we announced an investment of $380 billion RMB over the next three years to build our cloud and AI infrastructure.

Jiang Fan: In line with this, in February, we announced an investment of ¥380 billion over the next three years to build our cloud and AI infrastructure. In July, we announced plans to invest ¥50 billion in consumption. The transformative impact of AI on all industries, combined with the deep integration of AI and cloud, will present the most significant opportunity in the technology sector over the next decade. For Alibaba, we have the world's fourth largest and Asia's leading cloud infrastructure, along with full-stack technology capabilities spanning AI computing power, AI cloud platforms, AI models, an open-source ecosystem, and AI applications. This quarter, our CapEx investment in AI and cloud infrastructure reached ¥38.6 billion. Over the past four quarters, we have cumulatively invested over ¥100 billion in AI infrastructure and AI product R&D. Our investments in AI have begun to yield tangible results.

And open source ecosystem and AI applications this quarter, our capex investment in AI and cloud infrastructure reached $38 6 billion RMB over the past four quarters, we have cumulatively invested over 100 billion RMB NII infrastructure and AI product R&D, our investments in AI have begun to yield tangible results. This is evidenced by Alibaba.

Speaker #4: In July, we announced plans to invest ¥50 billion in consumption. The transformative impact of AI on all industries, combined with a deep integration of AI and cloud, will present the most significant opportunity in the technology sector over the next decade.

Speaker #4: For Alibaba, we have the world’s fourth-largest and Asia’s leading cloud infrastructure, along with full-stack technology capabilities spanning AI computing power, AI cloud platforms, AI models, an open-source ecosystem, and AI applications.

I believe our clouds return to rapid growth driven by <unk>, and our AI enhanced experiences across consumer and enterprise facing scenarios. So we're seeing an increasingly clear path for AI to drive Alibaba is robust growth.

We're also well positioned in China, the world's largest e-commerce market in the most promising service consumption market.

Speaker #4: This quarter, our CapEx investment in AI and cloud infrastructure reached ¥38.6 billion over the past four quarters. We have cumulatively invested over ¥100 billion in AI infrastructure and AI product R&D.

China is a well developed e-commerce infrastructure high population density and strong demand for our service consumption, providing a solid foundation for the integration of our quick commerce business and the Taobao App. We believe this convergence will fulfill consumer needs for one stock consumption experience and meet merchants' desire to serve consumers across multiple scenarios. It will end.

Speaker #4: Our investments in AI have begun to yield tangible results. This is evidenced by Alibaba Cloud's return to rapid growth, driven by AI demand, and our AI-enhanced experiences across consumer and enterprise-facing scenarios.

Jiang Fan: This is evidenced by Alibaba Cloud's return to rapid growth, driven by AI demand and our AI-enhanced experiences across consumer and enterprise-facing scenarios. We're seeing an increasingly clear path for AI to drive Alibaba Group's robust growth. We're also well-positioned in China, the world's largest e-commerce market and the most promising service consumption market. China has a well-developed e-commerce infrastructure, high population density, and strong demand for service consumption, providing a solid foundation for the integration of our QuickCommerce business and the Taobao app. We believe this convergence will fulfill consumer needs for a one-stop consumption experience and meet merchants' desire to serve consumers across multiple scenarios. It will enhance commerce efficiency and pave the way for an all-in-one AI assistant for consumption. Alibaba Group's strategic positioning in QuickCommerce has ambitions beyond competing in a single category.

Speaker #4: So, we're seeing an increasingly clear path for AI to drive Alibaba's robust growth. We're also well-positioned in China, the world's largest e-commerce market, and the most promising service consumption market.

<unk> commerce efficiency and pave the way for an all in one AI assistant for consumption.

Alibaba strategic positioning and quick commerce has ambitions beyond competing in a single category, we aimed to meet the one stop consumption needs of our 1 billion consumers and shape business models of a comprehensive consumption platform in the AI era and consumption. Our long term goal is to create a comprehensive consumption platform.

Speaker #4: China has a well-developed e-commerce infrastructure, high population density, and strong demand for service consumption, providing a solid foundation for the integration of our quick commerce business and the Taobao app.

Speaker #4: We believe this convergence will fulfill consumer needs for a one-stop consumption experience and meet merchants' desire to serve consumers across multiple scenarios. It will enhance commerce efficiency and pave the way for an all-in-one AI assistant for consumption.

Catering to our 1 billion consumers full spectrum of shopping in daily life needs. We aim to offer the best experience to the largest consumer base with the highest purchase frequency ultimately leading in the RMB 30 trillion addressable market over the next three years Alibaba will embark on a new journey with an entrepreneurial mindset to drive robust business growth through sustained investments centered on.

Speaker #4: Alibaba's strategic positioning in quick commerce has ambitions beyond competing in a single category. We aim to meet the one-stop consumption needs of our 1 billion consumers and shape business models of a comprehensive consumption platform in the AI era.

Jiang Fan: We aim to meet the one-stop consumption needs of our 1 billion consumers and shape business models of a comprehensive consumption platform in the AI era. In consumption, our long-term goal is to create a comprehensive consumption platform catering to our 1 billion consumers' full spectrum of shopping and daily life needs. We aim to offer the best experience to the largest consumer base with the highest purchase frequency, ultimately leading in an RMB 30 trillion addressable market. Over the next three years, Alibaba Group will embark on a new journey with an entrepreneurial mindset to drive robust business growth through sustained investments centered on the strategic areas of consumption and AI plus cloud. We're confident that these investments in the core business will sharpen our competitive edge and fuel long-term growth. Thank you.

The strategic areas of consumption and AI plus cloud, we're confident that these investments in the core business will sharpen our competitive edge and fuel long term growth. Thank you.

Speaker #4: In consumption, our long-term goal is to create a comprehensive consumption platform catering to our 1 billion consumers' full spectrum of shopping and daily life needs.

Yeah.

Thank you Eddie.

As Eddie said, we are in backing on a new chapter of end to Bruno ship by investing in two strategic pillars of consumption in the AI plus cloud.

Speaker #4: We aim to offer the best experience to the largest consumer base with the highest purchase frequency, ultimately leading in an RMB $30 trillion addressable market.

Speaker #4: Over the next three years, Alibaba will embark on a new journey with an entrepreneurial mindset to drive robust business growth through sustained investments, centered on the strategic areas of consumption and AI + Cloud.

These represent the two biggest long term opportunities we are systematically proceeding.

To reflect this sharpened focus we have also adjusted our financial reporting accordingly.

Speaker #4: We're confident that these investments in the core business will sharpen our competitive edge and fuel long-term growth. Thank you.

Starting from this quarter, we understood and it took a strategic combination of Taobao and Tmall group.

Speaker #5: Thank you, Eddie. As Eddie said, we are embarking on a new chapter of entrepreneurship by investing in two strategic pillars of consumption in the AI + Cloud.

Toby Xu: Thank you, Eddie. As Eddie said, we are embarking on a new chapter of entrepreneurship by investing in two strategic pillars of consumption in the AI plus cloud. These represent the two biggest long-term opportunities we are systematically pursuing. To reflect this sharpened focus, we have also adjusted our financial reporting accordingly. Starting from this quarter, we undertook a strategic combination of Taobao and Tmall Group, Ele.me, and Freshippo into Alibaba China E-Commerce Group, transforming our value proposition into a comprehensive consumption platform. This is not simply an organizational change; it's a major strategic investment aimed at redefining the consumer experience and unlocking long-term value across our ecosystem. This quarter marked meaningful progress on this front as we deepen investment in QuickCommerce, an increasingly essential use case for capturing new demand and shaping future consumer experience.

And <unk> into Alibaba in China E Commerce group.

Since forming our value proposition into a comprehensive consumption platform.

Speaker #5: These represent the two biggest long-term opportunities we are systematically pursuing. To reflect this sharpened focus, we have also adjusted our financial reporting accordingly. Starting from this quarter, we undertook a strategic combination of Taobao and Tmall Group, Illama, and Flicky into the Alibaba China e-commerce group.

This is not simply an organizational change it's a major strategic investment aimed at redefining the consumer experience and unlock long term value across our ecosystem.

This quarter marked a meaningful progress on this front as we deepen investment in quick commerce.

And increasingly essential use case for capturing new demand and shaping future consumer experience.

Speaker #5: Transforming our value proposition into a comprehensive consumption platform. This is not simply an organizational change; it's a major strategic investment aimed at redefining the consumer experience and unlocking long-term value across our ecosystem.

Our quick commerce business achieved key milestones, while contributing to the 25% year over year growth in the Taobao <unk> monthly active consumers in the first three weeks of August.

Speaker #5: This quarter marked meaningful progress on this front, as we deepened investment in quick commerce—an increasingly essential use case for capturing new demand and shaping future consumer experience.

In tandem we are building the AI plus cloud infrastructure to support the next wave of technological transformation.

Positioning Alibaba as a key enabler of enterprise AI adoption across industries.

Speaker #5: Our quick commerce business achieved key milestones while contributing to the 25% year-over-year growth in the Taobao APP monthly active consumers in the first three weeks of August.

Toby Xu: Our QuickCommerce business achieved key milestones while contributing to the 25% year-over-year growth in the Taobao app monthly active consumers in the first three weeks of August. In tandem, we are building the AI plus cloud infrastructure to support the next wave of technological transformation, positioning Alibaba Group as a key enabler of enterprise AI adoption across industries. Our cloud business delivered accelerated growth as segment revenue and revenue from external customers both grew 26%, driven by surging AI demand and increased customer adoption of public cloud services to support AI workloads. At the same time, we remain focused on improving operating efficiency and profitability. In the quarter, Alibaba Cloud Intelligence Group delivered solid progress, approaching break-even while sustaining strong growth momentum. Now, let's look at the financial results on a consolidated basis. Total revenue was RMB 247.7 billion.

Our cloud business delivered a celebrated growth as segment revenue and revenue from external customers. Both grew 26% driven by surging AI demand and increased customer adoption of public cloud services to support AI workloads.

Speaker #5: In tandem, we are building the AI + Cloud infrastructure to support the next wave of technological transformation, positioning Alibaba as a key enabler of enterprise AI adoption across industries.

At the same time, we remain focused on improving operating efficiency and profitability.

In the quarter Aib's delivered solid progress approaching breakeven, while sustaining strong growth momentum.

Speaker #5: Our cloud business delivered accelerated growth, with segment revenue and revenue from external customers both growing 26%. This growth was driven by surging AI demand and increased customer adoption of public cloud services to support AI workloads.

Now, let's look at the financial results on a consolidated basis.

Total revenue was RMB 247, 7 billion, excluding revenue from <unk> and in time revenue on a like for like basis would have grown by 10% year over year.

Speaker #5: At the same time, we remain focused on improving operating efficiency and profitability. In the quarter, AI/DC delivered solid progress approaching break-even while sustaining strong growth momentum.

Adjusted EBIDTA decreased 14%.

Primarily due to our strategic focus on scaling quick commerce to capture new consumption patterns and drive future monetization opportunities.

Speaker #5: Now, let's look at the financial results on a consolidated basis. Total revenue was RMB 247.7 billion. Excluding revenue from SunArt and Intime, revenue on a like-for-like basis would have grown by 10% year-over-year.

Clearly offset by margin improvements across several businesses, including <unk> and other units that made continued progress in operating efficiency.

Toby Xu: Excluding revenue from Sun Art and Intime, revenue on a like-for-like basis would have grown by 10% year-over-year. The adjusted EBITDA decreased 14%, primarily due to our strategic focus on scaling QuickCommerce to capture new consumption patterns and drive future monetization opportunities, partly offset by margin improvements across several businesses, including Alibaba Cloud Intelligence Group and other units that made continued progress in operating efficiency. Our GAAP net income increased 76%, primarily due to the mark-to-market changes from our equity investments and the gain arising from the disposal of local consumer service business of Chengduo. Operating cash flow was RMB 20.7 billion. Free cash flow was an outflow of RMB 18.8 billion. This was mainly attributed to our accelerated pace on expanding AI plus cloud infrastructure as CapEx ramped up to approximately RMB 39 billion and the investment in Taobao Instant Commerce.

Our GAAP net income increased 76%, primarily due to the mark to market changes from our equity investments and the gain arising from the disposal of local consumer service business of 10 deal.

Speaker #5: The adjusted EBITDA decreased 14%, primarily due to our strategic focus on scaling quick commerce to capture new consumption patterns and drive future monetization opportunities.

Operating cash flow was RMB 27 billion free cash flow was an outflow of <unk> 18, 8 billion. This was mainly attributed to our accelerated pace on expanding AI plus power infrastructure as capex ramp it up to approximate.

Speaker #5: Partly offset by margin improvements across several businesses, including AI/DC and other units that made continued progress in operating efficiency. Our gap net income increased 76%, primarily due to the mark-to-market changes from our equity investments and the gain arising from the disposal of the local consumer service business in Chengdu.

Italy, RMB 39 billion and the investment in Taobao instant commerce.

Backed by nearly U S dollar $50 billion in net cash.

Speaker #5: Operating cash flow was RMB 20.7 billion; free cash flow was an outflow of RMB 18.8 billion. This was mainly attributed to our accelerated pace in expanding AI + Cloud infrastructure, as CapEx ramped up to approximately RMB 39 billion.

Our healthy and low leveraged balance sheet and our strong access to capital markets, we have ample flexibility to support long term strategic investments, while maintaining financial resilience.

This quarter, we bought back approximately 7 million ABS is for a total of U S dollar $815 million and our share repurchase program.

Speaker #5: And the investment in Taobao Instant Commerce. Backed by nearly $50 billion in net cash, a healthy and low-leveraged balance sheet, and our strong access to capital markets, we have ample flexibility to support long-term strategic investments while maintaining financial resilience.

Toby Xu: Backed by nearly $50 billion in net cash, a healthy and low-leveraged balance sheet, and our strong access to capital markets, we have ample flexibility to support long-term strategic investments while maintaining financial resilience. This quarter, we bought back approximately 7 million ADS for a total of $815 million in our share repurchase program. We remain committed to shareholders' return through a mix of share buybacks, dividends, and investment for growth, and we will continue to adjust the pace and form of returns based on market conditions and strategic priorities. Now, let's look at the segment results, starting with Alibaba China E-Commerce Group. Revenue from Alibaba China E-Commerce Group was RMB 140.1 billion, an increase of 10%. Customer management revenue of our e-commerce business increased by 10%, primarily driven by the improvement of take rate.

We remain committed to shareholder return through a mix of share buybacks dividends and investment for growth and we will continue to adjust to the pace and form of returns based on market conditions and strategic priorities.

Speaker #5: This quarter, we brought back approximately $7 million ADSs for a total of $815 million in our share repurchase program. We remain committed to shareholders' returns through a mix of share buybacks, dividends, and investment for growth.

Now, let's look at our segment results, starting with Alibaba in China E Commerce group.

Revenue from Alibaba, China E. Commerce group was RMB 141 billion, an increase of 10%.

Custom manual revenue of our e-commerce business increased by 10%, primarily driven by the improvement of tapering.

Speaker #5: And we will continue to adjust the pace and form of returns based on market conditions and strategic priorities. Now, let's look at the segment results, starting with the Alibaba China e-commerce group.

We had a successful June 18th shopping festival, which delivered strong consumer growth on the Taobao ABP.

As we implemented the user friendly promotion Mccann isms and increase the support for merchants that provide high quality products and customer services.

Speaker #5: Revenue from Alibaba's China e-commerce group was RMB 140.1 billion, an increase of 10%. Customer management revenue from our e-commerce business also increased by 10%, primarily driven by the improvement of the take rate.

The number of 80, a VIP members our high spending consumers group continued to increase by double digits year over year, surpassing $53 million.

Speaker #5: We had a successful June 18th shopping festival, which delivered strong consumer growth on the Taobao app. As we incremented the user-friendly promotion mechanisms and increased the support for merchants that provide high-quality products and customer services.

Toby Xu: We had a successful June 18th shopping festival, which delivered strong consumer growth on the Taobao app. As we implemented user-friendly promotion mechanisms and increased the support for merchants that provide high-quality products and customer services, the number of 88VIP members, our highest spending consumers group, continued to increase by double digits year over year, surpassing 53 million. Revenue from our QuickCommerce business increased 12%, mainly due to order growth as a result of the rollout of Taobao Instant Commerce at the end of April. Since its launch, we have seen encouraging business progress, reflecting strong user adoption and growing order momentum. In the meantime, we have expanded our product offerings and front warehouse coverage for non-food categories as part of our efforts to improve user experience and enhance operating efficiency.

Revenue from our quick Commerce business increased 12%, mainly due to order growth as a result of rollout of Taobao instant commerce at the end of April.

Since its launch we have seen encouraging business progress, reflecting strong user adoption and a growing order momentum in.

Speaker #5: The number of ADA VIP members in our high-spending consumers group continued to increase by double digits year-over-year, surpassing $53 million. Revenue from our quick commerce business increased 12%, mainly due to order growth as a result of the rollout of Taobao Instant Commerce at the end of April.

In the meantime, we have expanded our product offerings and from warehouse coverage for non food categories as part of our efforts to improve user experience and enhance operating efficiency.

We executed our plan to generate synergies between quick commerce, and the rest of Alibaba ecosystem by leveraging supply chains users and membership benefits across our businesses.

Speaker #5: Since its launch, we have seen encouraging business progress reflecting strong user adoption and growing order momentum. In the meantime, we have expanded our product offerings and firm warehouse coverage for non-food categories as part of our efforts to improve user experience and enhance operating efficiency.

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Royalty program that connects Alibaba group's China E Commerce quick commerce and travel platforms.

The adjusted EBITA from Alibaba, China E Commerce group decreased by 21%.

Speaker #5: We executed our plan to generate synergies between quick commerce and the rest of Alibaba's ecosystem by leveraging supply chains, users, and membership benefits across our businesses.

Toby Xu: We executed our plan to generate synergies between QuickCommerce and the rest of Alibaba's ecosystem by leveraging supply chains, users, and membership benefits across our businesses. In August, Taobao app launched a tiered loyalty program that connects Alibaba Group's China e-commerce, QuickCommerce, and travel platforms. The adjusted EBITDA from Alibaba China E-Commerce Group decreased by 21%. Excluding the investments in our QuickCommerce business, our Alibaba China E-Commerce Group EBITDA has grown year over year. Revenue from Alibaba International Digital Commerce Group grew 19%, primarily driven by strong performance in cross-border businesses. Alibaba International Digital Commerce Group's adjusted EBITDA loss narrowed significantly, approaching break-even. As we continue to improve our operating efficiency, the user experience of Choice and the international business of Trendyol improved significantly on a sequential basis. Looking ahead, we are committed to enhancing operating and investment efficiency. As a result, our profitability will continue to improve.

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Revenue from AI D. C grew 19%, primarily driven by strong performance in cross border businesses.

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Speaker #5: Our Alibaba China e-commerce group EBITDA has grown year-over-year. Revenue from AI/DC grew 19%, primarily driven by strong performance in cross-border businesses. AI/DC's adjusted EBITDA loss narrowed significantly, approaching break-even.

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Cloud segment revenue grew by 26%, primarily driven by public power revenue growth.

Speaker #5: As we continue to improve our operating efficiency, the UE of choice and Chengdu's international business improved significantly on a sequential basis. Looking ahead, we are committed to enhancing operating and investment efficiency.

AI revenue continued its triple digit growth as AI demand continues to grow rapidly. We are also seeing increasing demand of compute storage and other public cloud services to support AI adoption.

Speaker #5: As a result, our profitability will continue to improve. Cloud segment revenue grew by 26%, primarily driven by public cloud revenue growth. AI revenue continued its triple-digit growth as demand for AI continues to grow rapidly.

Adjusted EBITA margin remained relatively stable year over year at eight 8%.

Toby Xu: Cloud segment revenue grew by 26%, primarily driven by public cloud revenue growth. AI revenue continued its triple-digit growth. As AI demand continues to grow rapidly, we are also seeing increasing demand for compute, storage, and other public cloud services to support AI adoption. The adjusted EBITDA margin remained relatively stable year over year at 8.8%. We will continue to invest in customer growth and technological innovation, including AI products and services, to increase cloud adoption for AI and maintain our market leadership. As previously mentioned, we have updated our segment reporting to better reflect our focus. We simplified the financial reporting structure by reclassifying Cainiao, Amap, and Youku into all others. All other segment revenue decreased by 28%, primarily due to the disposal of Sun Art and Intime.

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Speaker #5: We are also seeing increasing demand for compute, storage, and other public cloud services to support AI adoption. The adjusted EBITDA margin remained relatively stable year-over-year at 8.8%.

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Speaker #5: We will continue to invest in customer growth and technological innovation, including AI products and services, to increase cloud adoption for AI and to maintain our market leadership.

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Speaker #5: As previously mentioned, we have updated our segment reporting to better reflect our focus. We simplified the financial reporting structure by reclassifying China AMAP and Hu Jing DME into "All Others."

The all other segment comprises a set of innovative initiatives, including several strategic AI, driven technology infrastructure and the businesses.

Speaker #5: All other segment revenue decreased by 28%, primarily due to the disposal of SunArt and Intime. All others adjusted EBITDA was a loss of RMB 1.4 billion, primarily due to the increased investment in technology businesses.

While we continue to drive efficiency improvements across business lines. We are also investing in AI opportunities to maintain our competitive edge and to drive future growth.

Toby Xu: All others' adjusted EBITDA was a loss of RMB 1.4 billion, primarily due to the increased investment in technology businesses, partly offset by the improved results of businesses, including Freshippo. The all other segment comprises a set of innovative initiatives, including several strategic AI-driven technology infrastructure and businesses. While we continue to drive efficiency improvements across business lines, we are also investing in AI opportunities to maintain our competitive edge and to drive future growth. In closing, this quarter marked meaningful progress in our strategic investment on two pillars that will power Alibaba Group's next phase of growth: our comprehensive consumption platform and AI plus cloud infrastructure. In commerce, the integration of multiple businesses under Alibaba China E-Commerce Group is driving stronger synergy across supply chains, user networks, and membership programs, enabling us to better serve evolving consumer needs and capture long-term growth potentials.

Speaker #5: Partly offset by the improved results of businesses including Freshiple, the "All Other" segment comprises a set of innovative initiatives, including several strategic AI-driven technology infrastructure and businesses.

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Speaker #5: While we continue to drive efficiency improvements across business lines, we are also investing in AI opportunities to maintain our competitive edge and to drive future growth.

In commerce, the integration of multiple businesses in the Alibaba, China E. Commerce group is driving stronger synergy across supply chains user networks, and our membership programs, enabling us to better serve evolving consumer needs and capture long term.

Speaker #5: In closing, this quarter marked meaningful progress in our strategic investment in two pillars that will power Alibaba's next phase of growth: our comprehensive consumption platform and AI+Cloud infrastructure.

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Speaker #5: In cloud, revenue growth accelerated on the back of robust AI-driven demand. As we expand infrastructure capacity, we are helping more customers deploy and scale their AI workloads.

Technology investment reflects our long term ambition to build the infrastructure essential for AI proliferation, while our focused expansion in quick commerce is designed to unlock new demand and long term consumption potential in China.

Toby Xu: In cloud, revenue growth accelerated on the back of robust AI-driven demand. As we expand infrastructure capacity, we are helping more customers deploy and scale their AI workloads. We are investing with clarity and conviction on the two historical opportunities ahead: AI and domestic consumption. Our commitment of RMB 380 billion technology investment reflects our long-term ambition to build infrastructure essential for AI proliferation, while our focused expansion in QuickCommerce is designed to unlock new demand and long-term consumption potential in China. With strong balance sheet, operating cash flow, and business momentum, we are well-positioned to support these investments, drive sustainable growth, and strengthen core capabilities that will define Alibaba Group's future. Thank you. That's the end of our prepared remarks. We can open up for Q&A.

Speaker #5: We are investing with clarity in our conviction on the two historical opportunities ahead: AI and domestic consumption. Our commitment of RMB 380 billion in technology investment reflects our long-term ambition to build the infrastructure essential for AI proliferation, while our focus on expansion in quick commerce is designed to unlock new demand and long-term consumption potential in China.

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That's the end of our prepared remarks, we can open up for Q&A.

Hi, everyone for today's call Youre welcome to ask questions in Chinese or English third party translator will provide consecutive interpretation for the Q&A session. Please note that the translation is for convenience purpose only in the case of any discrepancy our management statement arrange in the language.

Speaker #5: With a strong balance sheet, operating cash flow, and positive business momentum, we are well-positioned to support these investments. We will drive sustainable growth and strengthen core capabilities that will define Alibaba's future.

It will prevail. If you are unable to hear the Chinese translation bilingual transcripts of this call will be available on our website within one week. After the end of the meeting.

Speaker #5: Thank you. That's the end of our prepared remarks. We can open up for Q&A.

Speaker #3: Hi, hi everyone. For today's call, you are welcome to ask questions in Chinese or English. A third-party translator will provide consecutive interpretation for the Q&A section.

Rob Lin: Hi everyone. For today's call, you are welcome to ask questions in Chinese or English. A third-party translator will provide consecutive interpretation for the Q&A session. Please note that the translation is for convenience purposes only. In the case of any discrepancy, our management statement in the original language will prevail. If you are unable to hear the Chinese translation, bilingual transcripts of this call will be available on our website within one week after the end of the meeting. 大家好, 今天的电话会欢迎您用中文或英文提问。我们会有第三方工作人员提供实时的交替传译。翻译目的是方便大家理解。如有任何疑义, 请以我们管理层原始语言所做的陈述为准。如无法听到中文翻译, 本次电话会议的双语记录将在会议结束后一周内在我们的网站上提供。 Operator, please start Q&A session. Thank you.

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Speaker #3: If you are unable to hear the Chinese translation, bilingual transcripts of this call will be available on our website within one week after the end of the meeting.

Operator, please start Q&A session. Thank you.

Thank you if you wish to ask a question. Please press Star then one on your phone and wait for your name to be announced.

Speaker #3: 大家好, 今天的电话会, 欢迎您用中文或英文提问。我们会有第三方工作人员提供实时的交替传译。翻译目的是方便大家理解。如有任何疑义, 请以我们管理层原始语言所做的陈述为准。如无法听到中文翻译, 本次电话会议的双语记录将在会议结束后一周内在我们的网站上提供。 Operator, please start Q&A session. Thank you.

If you wish to cancel your request please press star two.

And to give more people the opportunity to ask questions. Please keep yourself to no more than one question at a time.

Thank you. Your first question comes from Alicia Yap at Citigroup. Please go ahead.

Hi, Thank you good evening management, Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on your solid cloud revenue growth.

Speaker #2: Thank you. If you wish to ask a question, please press star, then one on your phone, and wait for your name to be announced.

Lydia Lu: Thank you. If you wish to ask a question, please press *1 on your phone and wait for your name to be announced. If you wish to cancel your request, please press *2. To give more people the opportunity to ask questions, please keep yourself to no more than one question at a time. Thank you. Your first question comes from Alicia Yap at Citigroup. Please go ahead.

Question related to your recent step up investment in the quick Commerce and also therefore delivery basis. So can management share with US what is your vision for the quick commerce growth opportunity in China and what is your investment plan for the quick commerce, how long well the heavy investment.

Speaker #2: If you wish to cancel your request, please press *2. And to give more people the opportunity to ask questions, please keep yourself to no more than one question at a time.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Your first question comes from Alicia Yap at Citigroup. Please go ahead.

And how will the investment bring the long term value for overall Taobao, China E Commerce platform.

Speaker #6: Hi, thank you. Good evening, management. Thanks for taking my questions. Congrats on your solid cloud revenue growth. I have a question related to your recent step-up investment in the quick commerce and also the food delivery business.

Operator: Hi, thank you. Good evening, management. Thanks for taking my questions. Congrats on your solid cloud revenue growth. I have a question related to your recent step-up investment in the QuickCommerce and also the food delivery business. Can management share with us what is your vision for the QuickCommerce growth opportunity in China, and what is your investment plan for the QuickCommerce? How long will the heavy investment last, and how will the investment bring the long-term value for overall Taobao and your China e-commerce platform? Can management share a bit of the latest progress of the QuickCommerce business? What are the synergies you have realized so far, and how should we expect the investment to impact our GMV and also the CMR growth in the coming quarters? Thank you.

Management shed a bit of the latest progress of the cycle with just a quick how much business. What other synergies you have realized so far and how should we expect that investment to impact.

Speaker #6: So can management share with us what is your vision for the quick commerce growth opportunity in China and what is your investment plan for the quick commerce?

Our T&D and also the form Oswald in the coming quarters. Thank you.

Speaker #6: How long will the heavy investment last, and how will the investment bring long-term value for overall Taobao and your China e-commerce platform? Can management share a bit of the latest progress of SunGo, which is the quick commerce business? What are the synergies you have realized so far, and how should we expect the investment to impact our GMV and also the CMR growth in the coming quarters?

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Jiang Fan: 管理层晚上好,感谢接受我的提问。也祝贺你们取得的云收入方面很强劲的增长。我想提的问题是关于即时零售,淘宝闪购这方面最近投资加大。是不是可以请管理层分享一下对于在中国的这个即时零售增长机会,你们有什么愿景,对即时零售有什么某一计划,当前这种大额的投入会维持多久?这样的投资会不会带来长期的价值?迄今为止你们已经实现了什么样的协同效应,而我们应该怎么去考虑这个投资对GMV的影响,接下来几个季度对GMV的影响以及对CMR增长的影响。谢谢。

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Let me begin by reviewing some of the progress we've made so far in our instant commerce business and then share our expectations for instance, commerce going forward.

Since we launched turbo instant commerce four months ago.

We believe that we have been highly successful in engaging users and merchants building logistics capabilities and marketing.

From July onwards in particular, the growth of order volume user scale merchant supplies and delivery delivery capacity of all exceeded expectations.

Speaker #2: Thanks for your question. Let me begin by reviewing some of the progress we've made so far in our instant commerce business and then share our expectations for instant commerce going forward.

Jiang Fan: Thanks for your question. Let me begin by reviewing some of the progress we've made so far in our Instant Commerce business and then share our expectations for Instant Commerce going forward. Since we launched Taobao Instant Commerce four months ago, we believe that we've been highly successful in engaging users and merchants, building logistics capabilities, and marketing. From July onwards, in particular, the growth of order volume, user scale, merchant supplies, and delivery capacity have all exceeded expectations. In fact, if you just look at the food delivery to home category, we are now already the market leader in terms of orders. Let me share some figures. First, our peak daily order volume reached 120 million, and weekly average daily orders reached 80 million in August. Second, user scale, QuickCommerce monthly active consumers, MAC, reached 300 million in August, representing 200% growth compared to before April. Third, merchant supply.

In fact, if you just look at the food delivery to home category.

Speaker #2: Since we launched Taobao Instant Commerce four months ago, we believe that we've been highly successful in engaging users and merchants, building logistics capabilities, and marketing.

We are now already the market leader in terms of orders.

Let me share some figures.

First our peak daily order volume reached $120 million.

Speaker #2: From July onwards, in particular, the growth of order volume, user scale, merchant supplies, and delivery capacity have all exceeded expectations. In fact, if you just look at the food delivery-to-home category, we are now already the market leader.

And weekly average daily orders reached $80 million in August.

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Commerce monthly active consumers MHC reached $300 million in August representing 200% growth compared to before April.

Third merchant supply the rapid growth in business scale has also attracted new merchants to join turbo instant Commerce hi.

Speaker #2: In terms of orders, let me share some figures. First, our peak daily order volume reached 120 million, and the weekly average daily orders reached 80 million in August.

High quality merchant supplier in particular has reached industry leading levels.

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Daily active riders have exceeded $2 million that is a three times increase from April and that also means that we've created over a million new jobs.

Speaker #2: Second, user scale: quick commerce monthly active consumers (MAC) reached 300 million in August, representing 200% growth compared to before April. Third, merchant supply: the rapid growth in business scale has also attracted new merchants to join Taobao Instant Commerce.

As I stated last quarter. The first stage goals for our quick commerce business were to scale up user growth and to build consumer mind share with these developments over the past few months, we have already achieved our first stage goals beyond our own expectations.

Jiang Fan: The rapid growth in business scale has also attracted new merchants to join Taobao Instant Commerce. High-quality merchant supply, in particular, has reached industry-leading levels. Fourth, fulfillment capacity. Daily active riders have exceeded two million. That is a three-times increase from April, and that also means that we've created over a million new jobs. As I stated last quarter, the first stage goals for our QuickCommerce business were to scale up user growth and build consumer mindshare. With these developments over the past few months, we have already achieved our first stage goals beyond our own expectations.

Speaker #2: High-quality merchant supply, in particular, has reached industry-leading levels. Fourth, fulfillment capacity. Daily active riders have exceeded 2 million, which is a threefold increase from April, and that also means that we've created over 1 million new jobs.

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Joe Tsai: 接下来我再讲一下闪购对电商业务的拉动。首先从用户视角,淘宝闪购显著带动了手淘整体用户规模跟活跃度,闪购拉动淘宝八月DAU增长20%。闪购作为一个更高频的场景,带动了手淘大盘活跃用户活跃天数的提升。在用户活跃提升的过程中,我们也看到闪购带动电商收益的明显趋势,主要体现在第一,因为流量上涨带来了广告跟CMR的提升,第二,因为用户活跃度提升以及新用户拉新跟流失用户的召回,我们可以减少市场费用的投入。我们认为这个趋势会在后续的持续经营中会扩大,相信中长期会更显著带动电商侧的收益。

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First quick Commerce is significant driver of overall user scale and engagement in August quick commerce drove 20% growth in the turbo apps do you use.

The high frequency pattern of quick Commerce has also contributed to a significant increase in average purchase days per user.

With the increase in user engagement, we are seeing a clear trend of quick commerce driving incremental income for our E Commerce business specifically.

Speaker #2: Next, let me talk about the synergies between quick commerce and our e-commerce business. First, quick commerce is a significant driver of overall user scale and engagement.

Jiang Fan: Next, let me talk about the synergies between QuickCommerce and our e-commerce business. First, QuickCommerce is a significant driver of overall user scale and engagement. In August, QuickCommerce drove 20% growth in the Taobao app's DAUs. The high-frequency pattern of QuickCommerce has also contributed to a significant increase in average purchase days per user. With the increase in user engagement, we are seeing a clear trend of QuickCommerce driving incremental income for our e-commerce business. Specifically, first, the growth in traffic drives advertising and CMR growth. Second, as a result of heightened user engagement, incremental new user acquisition, and customer re-engagement, we can reduce sales and marketing expenses. We expect this trend to continue and to expand in our ongoing operations, and are confident that it will drive significant incremental income on the e-commerce side.

First the growth in traffic drives advertising and CFR growth.

Speaker #2: In August, quick commerce drove a 20% growth in the Taobao app's DAUs. The high-frequency pattern of quick commerce has also contributed to a significant increase in average purchase days per user.

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We expect this trend to continue and to expand in our ongoing operations and are confident that it will drive significant incremental income on the ecommerce side.

Speaker #2: With the increase in user engagement, we are seeing a clear trend of quick commerce driving incremental income for our e-commerce business. Specifically, first, the growth in traffic drives advertising and CMR growth.

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When talking about operating efficiency, you cannot disregard scale.

In the past our scale was just one third of our peers and in many cities and provinces our market share was even lower than 20%.

With such a huge gap in market share, it's meaningless to talk about efficiency.

Speaker #2: Next, let me share my views on the operating efficiency and unit economics (UE) of quick commerce, because I know these are aspects to which you pay special attention.

Jiang Fan: Next, let me share my views on the operating efficiency and unit economics, UE, of QuickCommerce because I know these are aspects to which you pay special attention. First, when talking about operating efficiency, you cannot disregard scale. In the past, our scale was just one-third of our peers, and in many cities and provinces, our market share was even lower than 20%. With such a huge gap in market share, it's meaningless to talk about efficiency. Now, however, our QuickCommerce business is leading in scale, and we can quickly improve our operating efficiency. Our peers have achieved excellent performance in the food delivery industry, especially in terms of efficiency, and we are now actively working to narrow that gap. Our scope to improve efficiency is substantial. Let's look at it in the short term and then in the long term.

Now however, our quick commerce business is leading in scale and we can quickly improve our operating efficiency.

Our peers have achieved excellent performance in the food delivery industry, especially in terms of efficiency and we are now actively working to narrow that gap.

Speaker #2: First, when talking about operating efficiency, you cannot disregard scale. In the past, our scale was just one-third of our peers. And in many cities and provinces, our market share was even lower than 20%.

Our scope to improve efficiency is substantial.

Let's look at it in the short term and then in the long term in the short term our losses will narrow primarily driven by the following.

Speaker #2: With such a huge gap in market share, it's meaningless to talk about efficiency. Now, however, our quick commerce business is leading in scale, and we can quickly improve our operating efficiency.

Number one is optimization of customer mix.

We have scaled up marketing expenses for user growth nationwide over the past four months and acquired a large number of new customers.

Speaker #2: Our peers have achieved excellent performance in the food delivery industry, especially in terms of efficiency, and we are now actively working to narrow that gap.

New user acquisition requires substantial upfront investment, but we excel user retention and as the proportion of repeat customers increases you will improve.

Speaker #2: Our scope to improve efficiency is substantial. Let's look at it in the short term and then in the long term. In the short term, our losses will narrow, primarily driven by the following.

Number two is optimization of order mix.

Jiang Fan: In the short term, our losses will narrow, primarily driven by the following. Number one is optimization of customer mix. We have scaled up marketing expenses for user growth nationwide over the past four months and acquired a large number of new customers. New user acquisition requires substantial upfront investment, but we excel at user retention, and as the proportion of repeat customers increases, UE will improve. Number two is optimization of order mix. In the next stage, we aim to increase the proportion of high-value orders, including high-value meal orders, and increase the proportion of non-food category orders. UE will therefore improve as a result of higher average order value, AOV. The third is optimization of fulfillment efficiency and costs. In the initial phase, as order volume ramped up by four times, the number one priority for us as a platform was to ensure the user experience.

And the next stage, we aim to increase the proportion of high value orders, including high value meal orders and increase the proportion of non food category orders UAE will therefore improve as a result of higher average order value.

Speaker #2: Number one is optimization of customer mix. We have scaled up marketing expenses for user growth nationwide over the past four months and acquired a large number of new customers.

Speaker #2: New user acquisition requires substantial upfront investment. But we excel at user retention, and as the proportion of repeat customers increases, user engagement will improve. Number two is the optimization of order mix.

And the third is optimization of fulfillment efficiency and costs and.

In the initial phase as order volume ramped up by four times the number one priority for us as a platform was to ensure the user experience.

Speaker #2: In the next stage, we aim to increase the proportion of high-value orders, including high-value meal orders, and increase the proportion of non-food category orders.

In July and August therefore, we made an additional large investment to address the severe short term lack of delivery capacity going forward as order scale stabilizes, our logistics costs will decline significantly contributing to further improvement.

Speaker #2: UE will therefore improve as a result of higher average order value (AOV). The third focus is the optimization of fulfillment efficiency and costs. In the initial phase, as order volume ramped up by four times, the number one priority for us as a platform was to ensure the user experience.

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Speaker #2: In July and August, therefore, we made an additional large investment to address the severe short-term lack of delivery capacity. Going forward, as order scale stabilizes, our logistics costs will decline significantly, contributing to further UE improvement.

Jiang Fan: In July and August, we made an additional large investment to address the severe short-term lack of delivery capacity. Going forward, as order scale stabilizes, our logistics costs will decline significantly, contributing to further UE improvement.

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In the long term as order density increases there is considerable scope to optimize our logistics costs compared to four months ago.

In addition, there is also considerable scope to improve our targeted engagement of offline merchants.

Speaker #2: So, in the short term, we expect that while continuing to maintain investment in consumer benefit through logistics and subsidy efficiency improvements, as well as order structure optimization, our UE losses can be reduced by half.

Jiang Fan: In the short term, we expect that while continuing to maintain investment in consumer benefit through logistics and subsidy efficiency improvements and order structure optimization, our UE losses can be reduced by half. In the long term, as order density increases, there is considerable scope to optimize our logistics costs compared to four months ago. In addition, there is also considerable scope to improve our targeted engagement of offline merchants. In my view, scale is the primary factor in achieving efficiency. With our newly achieved scale and market share, we are confident that we can achieve industry-leading efficiency in the long term. At the same time, we will not look at the standalone profitability of QuickCommerce delivery. If combined with the incremental benefits to our e-commerce business, we believe QuickCommerce will bring sustained positive economic value to the overall platform while maintaining price competitiveness.

In my view scale as the primary factor in achieving efficiency.

With our newly achieved scale and market share. We are confident that we can achieve industry leading efficiency in the long term.

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Speaker #2: At the same time, we will not look at the standalone profitability of quick commerce delivery. If combined with the incremental benefits to our e-commerce business, we believe quick commerce will bring sustained positive economic value to the overall platform while maintaining price competitiveness.

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Speaker #2: Next, let me talk about the development of the non-food category. In quick commerce, we divide non-food deliveries into two parts. One is the original hyperlocal quick commerce e-commerce model, and the other is e-commerce.

Lydia Lu: Next, let me talk about development of the non-food category. In QuickCommerce, we divide non-food deliveries into two parts. One is the original hyperlocal QuickCommerce e-commerce model, and the other is e-commerce, a hybrid model of QuickCommerce plus e-commerce. On the hyperlocal side, we have leveraged our abundant supplies and strong supply chain to develop a lightning warehouse model. Over the past few months, supply in these warehouses has rapidly expanded. We now have over 50,000 lightning warehouses with order growth of over 360% year on year. 25% of the supply in these lightning warehouses comes from supply chains within the Alibaba ecosystem. Secondly, we have fulfillment capacity from front warehouses that have been developed by Freshippo for its fresh groceries category. Following Freshippo's supply connection into Taobao Instant Commerce, order volume has already exceeded 2 million, up by 70% year on year.

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Next question please.

Thank you. Your next question comes from.

From Thomas Chong of Jefferies.

Please go ahead.

Hi, Good evening, Thanks management for taking my question and congratulation on a very solid.

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My question Alibaba cloud.

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First question is how should we think about.

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Jiang Fan: Thank you. Your next question comes from Thomas Chung at Jefferies.

Should we expect acceleration.

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Toby Xu: Hi, and good evening. Thanks, management, for taking my question and congratulations on a very solid last 12 weeks out. My question is about Alibaba Cloud. We have seen our cloud business is doing very well and accelerating to 26% year on year this quarter. My first question is, how should we think about this acceleration? Should we expect acceleration continues for coming quarters as well as our expectation for FY 2026? Because when I look into our acceleration and look into overseas peers, how should we think about the pace of monetization versus the U.S.? We also see our cloud margin reaching 8.8%. How should we think about the margin outlook into the future? Given our acceleration is very impressive, can we talk about how different industry sectors actually perform in this quarter?

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Operator: 好, 感谢管理层, 教授。我的问题也祝贺你们本季度取得的扎实的业绩。我想提的问题呢, 是关于阿里云这一方面。我们看到云业务现在表现很好, 那么本季度增速是达到同比的26%。那我第一个问题是想了解我们应该如何思考它的这种增速的加速, 接下来几个季度或者说整个2026财年会不会继续保持这样的增速。考虑到这种增速并对比海外, 比如说我们跟美国相比, 我们应该如何思考呢? 我们的变现率的一个速度。另一方面, 我看到我们云的利润率现在是达到8.8%。未来的利润率的展望我们应该怎么去思考? 因为一方面我们的增速非常的快, 然后能不能谈一下本季度不同的行业它们的具体表现如何? 我记得上季度我们谈到了多个不同的行业, 包括传统的行业, 还有新兴的一些机会, 是不是某些行业本季度我们取得的进步较快。另外关于资本开支, 我们应该有什么样的展望呢? 就是这些问题, 谢谢。

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The outlook for our growth rate.

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Lydia Lu: Okay, thank you very much for those questions. In noting them down, I saw there were quite a few questions, but let me start with the first one regarding the outlook for our growth rate. We certainly see a very clear trend among our customers in terms of utilizing AI products. They're developing AI products, and this represents a very strong demand. First of all, as AI model capabilities continue to strengthen, more and more new AI applications are being developed and applied into more and more new use cases. At the same time, many vendors that had original use cases where they were running workloads on traditional CPUs are now beginning to leverage large models and using AI to run those original functions. For all these reasons, demand is very strong and continues to grow robustly.

First of all as AI model capabilities continue to strengthen more and more new AI applications are being developed and applied into more and more new.

Okay, thank you very much for those, uh, questions. Uh, and noting them down. I saw there were quite a few questions, but let let me start with the first 1, uh, regarding uh, uh, the outlook for our growth rate.

New use cases.

At the same time, many vendors that had the original use cases, where they were running workloads on traditional Cpus are now beginning to leverage large models.

Uh, so, uh, we certainly see, uh, a very clear trend among our, uh, customers, uh, in terms of, uh, utilizing AI products.

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Lydia Lu: In recent quarters, we've seen fast growth in inference workloads, as well as continued growth in training and in inferencing. Over the past few quarters, apart from that rapid growth in inferencing, we've also observed some new industry trends on the training side. Apart from the large fundamental models that continue to be upgraded in the market, there's also a lot of training that is taking place and creating new opportunities. For example, automobile vendors, companies in the education sector, or companies in the multimedia application space, they all have training requirements. They're leveraging their own proprietary data to train proprietary models to meet their demands. That in turn is driving higher utilization of our overall AI infrastructure. This is a very strong boost to our infrastructure use.

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Training and in uh, uh inferencing. Uh, well, the past few quarters. Uh, apart from that rapid growth in that inferencing. Uh, We've also observed some new uh, industry Trends, uh, on the training side. Uh,

And that in turn is driving higher utilization of our overall AI infrastructure.

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A very strong boost to our infrastructure.

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New opportunities around training.

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Whereby companies are leveraging our open source model and they have a model of training.

In doing so.

For example.

We mentioned education companies as well as companies in the healthcare.

Sector.

Uh, that is taking place and creating new opportunities. Uh, for example, uh, uh, automobile vendors, uh, for example, uh, companies in the education sector, uh, or companies in the multimedia application space, uh, they all have, uh, training, uh, requirements that they're leveraging their own proprietary data to train proprietary, uh, models to meet their demands.

Companies that are creating development.

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With these proprietary models, where they're leveraging their own.

Lydia Lu: At the same time, we also see new opportunities around training, whereby companies are leveraging our open source models, and they have a lot of training demands in doing so. For example, we mentioned education companies, as well as companies in the healthcare sector, and companies that are creating development tools, platform companies. We see a lot of excellent opportunities with these proprietary models where they're leveraging their own data and their own to meet their own use cases by performing post-training or fine-tuning of our Qwen models. On that basis, they're making use of our Alibaba Cloud computing platform. At the same time, on that basis, we can also begin gradually to develop commercialized services, post-training services for our open source models.

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Uh, and that in turn is driving higher utilization of our, uh, overall, uh, AI infrastructure. Uh, so this is a very strong boost to our infrastructure, uh, use. Uh, at the same time, we also see.

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And at the same time on that basis. We can also begin gradually to develop commercialized.

Uh, new opportunities, uh, around, uh, training. Uh, whereby companies are leveraging our, uh, open-source uh, models. And they have a lot of, uh, training, uh, demands in doing so. Uh, for example.

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What I see.

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In China as compared to.

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Lydia Lu: Your other question had to do with gross margin and benchmarking against what we see overseas. Perhaps I can share with you my judgment overall as to the Chinese cloud market. What I see as the trend is for there to be a higher level of market concentration in China as compared to what we see in overseas markets because developers here require full-stack comprehensive capabilities for what they're developing. We have that full stack with complete capabilities across traditional cloud computing, compute storage, AI compute, or AI models. We have a very developer-friendly open ecosystem as well. Our goal is to maintain a growth rate above the average rate of market growth to, at the same time, increase our market share.

Across traditional cloud.

Cloud computing compute storage AI.

Our AI models and of course, we have a very developer friendly open ecosystem.

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So our goal is to maintain.

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Growth rate above the average rate of market growth too at the same time.

Increase our market share.

In terms of our strategic objectives. The priority is on growing the number of users expanding into new use cases.

Not in the short term on increasing gross margin.

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Gross margin.

Eddie Wu: 关于我们在AI方面的CapEx支出, 我觉得我们还是会坚持原来三年投资¥3800亿这样的一个计划, 但是每个季度可能根据供应链的不同, 可能会有一些波动。同时呢, 根据全球的AI芯片的供应和政策的变化, 我们其实也有后备不同的和别的合作伙伴共同去做供应链的不同方式的一个储备。我们相信面对不同的一个行业情况, 我们对于未来的¥3800亿的资本支出还是会按照预期的情况去完成。¥3800亿的。

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Policies around AI chips and supplier.

We have.

Backup plans in place to work with various different partners.

Lydia Lu: Turning now to the question about our CapEx, capital expenditures on AI. We will continue to implement our three-year plan to invest ¥380 billion in cloud and AI. However, based on the supply chain situation in different quarters, there may be a quarter-to-quarter fluctuation. At the same time, based on changes in policies around AI chips and supply, we have backup plans in place to work with various different partners and to be able to respond to different situations in respect of supply chains. I'm confident that no matter what changes may crop up in the industry, we will continue as planned and as expected to move forward with that planned CapEx investment of ¥380 billion.

And to be able to respond to different situations and respective supply chains.

So.

I am confident that.

No matter what changes.

Crop up in the industry.

We will continue as planned and is expected to move forward with that plant.

Capex investment of 381 billion.

Okay.

Yeah.

Next question please.

Thank you. Your next question comes from Kenneth Fong at <unk>.

Managers on, uh, AI. Uh, we will continue to, uh, implement our 3-year plan to invest $380 billion, uh, in cloud and AI. Uh, however, uh, based on the supply chain situation in different quarters, uh, there may be a quarter-to-quarter fluctuation. Uh, at the same time, uh, based on changes in, uh, uh, policies around AI chips and, uh, supply. Uh.

Please go ahead.

Okay.

Hi, Good evening management and thank for taking my question.

Given the cross selling that we have seen.

<unk> already achieved in our food delivery products do we plan to ramp up to in store part of local service.

Uh, we have uh uh backup plans in place to work with various different uh Partners uh and to be able to respond to different uh, situations in respect of Supply chains.

Doug.

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Colby <unk>.

Our coupon has been stepping up promotions in certain regions. So how should we think about it.

So the investment we're expanding this ed.

Uh, so, uh, I'm confident that, uh, no matter what changes may crop up in the industry, uh, we will, uh, continue as planned and as expected to move forward with that plan, uh, capex investment of $380 billion.

Part of the business in the coming months on top of the food delivery. Thank you.

Rob Lin: Next question, please.

Next question, please.

Jiang Fan: Thank you. Your next question comes from Kenneth Fong at UBS. Please go ahead.

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Toby Xu: Hi. Good evening, management, and thanks for taking my question. Given the cross-selling that we have seen already achieved in our food delivery part, do we plan to ramp up the in-store part of local service, i.e., Taobao and Yongming Wu? We noticed that our Macau Bay in-store coupon has been stepping up promotion in certain regions. How should we think about any further investment or expand in this in-store part of business in the coming months on top of the food delivery? Thank you.

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Eddie Wu: We are also conducting some tests and explorations in certain cities.

So the first thing I would say is that this is.

It's very much connected to the scale that we have achieved in quick commerce that I just shared with you.

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Lydia Lu: Yes, thank you. Let me take this question. The first thing I would say is that this is very much connected to the scale that we have achieved in QuickCommerce that I just shared with you. We have a massive scale now of users on our QuickCommerce channel every day. Basically, we're talking about 150 million active users on a daily basis. Within those users, there are some who go to the store themselves to do self-pickup, and that also includes group purchase using coupons. From the perspective of satisfying the needs of our users, and in particular those who go offline in-store, there's a lot of synergy there. We will also consider providing more diverse services to these users. In fact, we're already doing some testing and piloting in certain selected cities.

Yes, thank you.

There's a lot of synergy there and so we will also consider providing more diverse services to these users and in fact, we're already doing some testing and piloting in certain selected cities.

Take this question.

Next question please.

Thank you. Your next question comes from Joyce Ju at Bank of America. Please go ahead.

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Uh, so, uh, the first thing I would say is that this, uh, is very much uh, connected to the scale that we, uh, have achieved in quick commerce, that I just shared with you. Uh, we have a massive scale now of, uh, users on our, uh, quick commerce channel. Uh, every day, uh, basically, we're talking about 150 million, uh, active users on a, on a daily basis. And, uh, within those users, uh, there are some who go to the store themselves. Uh,

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Joe Tsai: 谢谢管理层给我这个提问的机会。我的第一个问题是关于刚刚管理层提到的关于那个三年坚持投入这个AI和内需这两个重大的历史机遇的。第一,因为我们知道在AI方面我们有一个3800亿的这个三年的投资计划。那么在内需方面我们是怎么考虑这个投入的节奏的?它涵盖的部分除了刚刚我们提到的就是即时零售啊,外卖啊,还会包含哪一些比如说在供应链啊,或者是消费者侧的投入,然后它的节奏会是怎么样的?然后我的第二个问题是关于我们这个核心的这个CMR增长的,我们这个季度还是保持了非常强劲的10%的这个年对年增长。但是到了今年九月份以后呢,我们去年那个基础服务费增加的带来的这个基数的问题可能就会逐渐的开始变得困难一点。就想问一下我们接下去是怎么理解这个Quanzhantui渗透所驱动的,比如说未来几个季度的这个CMR的持续的这个take rate的增长,以及就是我们看到外卖或者即时零售所带动的流量或者是这个消费频次的增长,会不会就是帮助到我们的这个GMV加速,然后同时也就是帮助我们的CMR就是进一步的有所这个增速的加持。谢谢。

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Lydia Lu: Thank you, management, for taking my question. My first question has to do with the pace of investments going forward. You mentioned your commitment to the three-year plan to invest ¥380 billion in cloud and AI. I'm wondering if you could also tell us about your investment plans going forward on the commerce side, on the consumption side. What will the pace of those investments look like? Apart from investing in QuickCommerce, what other investments are you contemplating, for example, in supply chains or in users? What will the pace of those investments look like? Secondly, I'd like to ask about CMR. We saw strong growth in CMR this quarter, up 10% year on year. We know that heading into September, the positive impact of the software service fee that you started implementing last year will diminish. Looking forward, how much positive impact will Quanzhantui penetration have on CMR growth?

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Supply chains, uh, or in in users and what will the pace of those Investments? Uh, look like, uh, and then, secondly, uh, I'd like to ask about, uh, CMR. So we, we saw a strong growth in the CMR this quarter up 10%, uh, year on year, but we know that, uh, heading into September the positive impact of the, uh, software service fee that you started implementing last year will, uh, diminish. Uh, so looking forward, uh, how much, uh, positive impact will qzt penetration have on CMR growth, uh, uh, and beyond that, uh, the uh, incremental, uh, traffic and gmv, uh, being driven by quick Commerce, uh, how much

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Lydia Lu: Thank you. Let me take this question. Given the historic opportunity to invest in the consumer market today, we're certainly grasping that, but our investments in the consumption market are not just starting now. We've always been making investments in the user side. Certainly, the Taobao and Tmall Group had been investing in users on the supply chain side, not just the Taobao and Tmall Group, but also Freshippo and other of our businesses were investing in the supply chains as well. When we talk about this large investment that we're now making in the consumption market of $50 billion for developing QuickCommerce, this is incremental. This is a new investment on top of those investments that we were making. We will pace the investment cadence and rhythm in line with the market circumstances and market developments to ensure that it makes sense.

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Lydia Lu: Thank you. Your second question had to do with CMR, and I think that the key point there was the impact of take rate. In this quarter, as we said, CMR growth was positive and robust, and this was mainly because of a large increase in take rate. There were basically two major reasons for that. One was the 0.6% software service fee, and the other is Quanzhantui, which is itself powered by AI, continuing to achieve deeper penetration. I think that in the coming quarters, we can expect to see also positive impacts on CMR from these aspects. At the same time, there will be positive impact on CMR from QuickCommerce as well, where we're driving user growth as well as higher user frequency, which will result in higher take rate.

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We would expect that in the coming.

A couple of quarters, you can expect to see relatively.

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Lydia Lu: We would expect that in the coming couple of quarters, you can expect to see relatively rapid growth in CMR as you are now seeing.

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are now seeing,

Thanks, Good evening management.

So we've been following very closely the developments of your models and looking at Q1 three blue.

Rob Lin: Next question, please.

Question please.

Jiang Fan: Thank you. The next question comes from Yuan Liang from Citi. Please go ahead.

Block.

What we see is that it marks a transition from an era, where the focus is on training.

Thank you. The next question comes from Yuan from Settings. Please go ahead.

Eddie Wu: 管理层晚上好,感谢杰洛的提问。我们一直关注公司模型的一个进展,在Qwen-3的这个blog上,我们其实有看到Qwen-3正从专注于训练模型的时代过渡到以训练Agent为中心的一个时代。那我的问题是,以训练为Agent为中心的一个时代,我们还需要增加哪些能力和资源上的投入,以及管理层能否分享一下我们在Agent产品以及应用产品上的一些进展?谢谢。

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What additional capabilities and resources or investments do we need.

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Lydia Lu: Thanks. Good evening, management. We've been following very closely the developments of your models and looking at the Qwen-3 block. What we see is that it marks a transition from an era where the focus is on training to one where it's all about agents, an agent-centered era. My question is, what additional capabilities and resources or investments do we need in this transition period? Can you tell us a bit about some of your latest developments around agent products and agent applications?

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Eddie Wu: 好, 我来回答一下您这个问题。我们现在确实看到整个的大模型的这个演进, 确实从原来最初的只是简单的chat box到现在演进到agentic整个的这个这样一个演进。那我们在agentic这个时代的模型, 其实我们现在看到几个非常明显的一个趋势, 就是我们需要让模型能够深入的理解更长的上下文窗口。这更长的上下文窗口才能去解决整个一个更复杂的一个任务, 或者说一个更长的一个思考链路。同时我们也看到我们这个模型其实还需要去使用各种不同的工具, 使用不同的工具链去能够接入各种不同的企业内部系统。这也是各个模型需要去学习的能力。另一方面, 由于AI agent的这个爆发, 我们其实也看到我们在agent的使用, 或者说agent的这个背后的这个基础设施, 其实也是对云计算厂商一个新的机会。比如说我们看到很多agent他需要去解决一个任务的时候, 他需要跑好多的虚拟机, 或者说开很多个浏览器, 或者说同时去开很多的手机虚拟机的窗口。其实Alibaba Cloud也有一个新的产品, 我们叫Agent Bay, 就专门是能够为agent提供底层的一个沙盒环境。我觉得这里面对整个的模型进入到这样一个agent驱动的这个时代, 我觉得对于云计算厂商, 对于Alibaba来说其实是一个非常好的机会, 因为我们Alibaba Cloud上面承载着非常多的不同不同行业的这些企业。同时我们有非常好的适合agent运行的整个的沙盒环境。同时我们的模型也在越来越迭代进化, 适应这个agent使用的这样的一个模型。

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The overall evolution path.

When it comes to models going from simple chatbot toward.

Agents and there are several trends that we can see in the era of agents. One certainly is that models.

Require larger context windows.

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Lydia Lu: Thank you. Let me take that question. Indeed, we do see the overall evolution path when it comes to models going from simple chatbots toward agents. There are several trends that we can see in the era of agents. One certainly is that models require larger context windows to be able to undertake more complex tasks with longer chains of thought. They need to be able to utilize multiple different tools or chains of tools. The agents need to be able to access different systems, call on different internal systems within the enterprise. These developments also create new opportunities for us as an infrastructure provider. Many of these agents will need virtual servers, or they'll need to have many browser windows open simultaneously, or they'll need many mobile virtual machines and sandbox environments. For a cloud vendor like Alibaba Cloud, these are all very positive developments.

Provider many of these agents.

Uh, thank you. Let me take that question.

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Our machines.

Sandbox environments.

So for a cloud vendor like Alibaba cloud user all very positive developments, we're supporting.

So indeed, uh, we do see uh, uh, the overall Evolution path, uh, when it comes to models going from simple, chat, Bots toward, uh, agents. And, uh, there there are several trends that we can see in the uh, era of Agents 1. Uh, certainly is that uh models uh,

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Lydia Lu: We're supporting numerous clients in numerous different sectors, and we can provide all of these with a new product called Agent Bay, which provides a sandbox environment specifically for agents. This is very much an agent-driven era in AI and cloud development, and for us, this is an excellent opportunity.

Uh, and the agents need to be able to access different systems. Uh, you call on different internal systems within, uh, the enterprises. So these developments also create new opportunities for us as an infrastructure, uh, provider. Many of these agents, uh, will need, uh, virtual servers, or they'll need to have many browser windows open, uh, simultaneously, or they'll need, uh, many mobile virtual, uh, machines and, uh, sandbox environments. Uh, so for a cloud vendor like Alibaba Cloud, these are all very positive developments.

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We're supporting, uh, numerous clients in numerous different, uh, sectors. And we can provide, uh, all of these, uh, with uh, a new product called Agent Bay, uh, which is, uh, uh, it provides a Sandbox environment specifically for, uh, uh agents. Uh, so this is very much, an agent driven, uh, era in uh, uh, Ai and Cloud development. And for us, this is an excellent uh, opportunity.

Eddie Wu: OK, 我再补充两点, 就是我们在这个问题上的一个思考。那我们觉得第一个在于模型上面, 其实我还想再补充一点, 我们觉得尤其进入到这个Agent驱动的这个AI时代, 模型的coding能力是一个非常重要的重要的能力, 因为我们觉得未来绝大部分的场景其实可以用一个擅长coding的模型, 结合非常多的连接, 非常多的工具, 连接非常多的这个企业系统, 其实可以解决非常多的企业内的这些任务, 或者消费者端的一些更复杂的任务。另一方面呢, 我还想提一点, 就是在于Agent产品上, 我们还是有非常多的和阿里集团的整个大生态结合的一些产品, 比如说我们现在的非常多的企业电商企业, 他需要一些客服端的产品。我们现在阿里云除了在提供基础的算力和基础设施之外, 其实我们也在协同像淘宝、像钉钉、像高德、像我们的支付宝这样去提供更多的能够在业务层面去自动化解决任务的一些工具。通过这些工具使得我们这些企业开发的这些AI agent能够更好地解决, 能够更好地解决他企业内的这些任务。

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Lydia Lu: Let me add to that by sharing some more of our thinking about models as they relate to agent-driven AI. I think that coding capabilities will become very important because models with strong coding capabilities can be connected to lots of different tools and lots of different enterprise internal systems. In that way, they'll be able to solve for many tasks within the enterprise or even to solve for some more sophisticated tasks on the consumer side. Another point I should add with respect to agentic products is that we have quite a few products that can tie into that, that are excellent within the Alibaba ecosystem. For example, a lot of enterprises, especially e-commerce enterprises, need a client service product within Alibaba Cloud.

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Operator: 好的, 谢谢管理层接受我的提问。我想再问一个关于这个外卖和闪购的问题。其实这次也不是我们第一次主动进攻这个市场。在2018年我们把Ele.me收购进来以后, 其实在之后的两三年还是花了很多的精力和资源去尝试进一步加大我们在外卖这个行业里面的市场份额。后来两三年从结果上来看, 我们这个战略意图其实是没有实现。我也曾经去问过DeepSeek为什么阿里下面的Ele.me就还是打不过美团。DeepSeek给我的回答是富养的儿子打不过穷养的创业狼。不管DeepSeek他说的对不对, 肯定我们是经过很多的复盘思考。在这一轮的大举进攻外卖的动作下面, 我们会采用一些什么不同的战略或者是思路来进一步最大化我们的投资回报率, 包括提升我们实现战略意图落地的一些新的思考, 能不能跟我们做一些分享。谢谢。

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Our market share in that space, but it seems that over a period of two to three years to original strategic intent really.

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Lydia Lu: Thanks, management, and good evening. I have a question coming back to QuickCommerce or Instant Commerce because, you know, it's not the first time that Alibaba has tried to enter this market. Back in from the acquisition of Ele.me back in 2018, lots of time, energy, resources were spent on trying to grow our market share in that space. It seems that over a period of two to three years, that original strategic intent really wasn't realized. I asked DeepSeek why it is that Ele.me under Alibaba still couldn't beat Meituan and be bigger than Meituan. What DeepSeek told me was that the son of the rich merchant can't beat the entrepreneurial wolf who was raised by a poor family. It doesn't matter whether DeepSeek is right or wrong, but I'm sure that we've done a lot of reflection and thinking going into this new round in the battle.

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I'm sure that we've done a lot of reflection and thinking.

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Lydia Lu: I'm sure that you will be taking some different strategies or approaches to maximize success. If you could tell us, you know, simply what's different this time and what are the different tactics that we're taking?

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Eddie Wu: I think these are all capabilities that Alibaba Group has accumulated over so many years.

But, uh, I'm sure that we've done a lot of, uh, reflection and thinking, uh, going into this new, uh, round in the battle. Uh, so I'm sure that you will be taking some different strategies or approaches, uh, to maximize, uh, success. But if you could tell us, you know, simply what what's different this time and what are the different, uh, tactics that we're taking?

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Lydia Lu: Thanks. I guess you could ask DeepSeek again, but I'll take a stab at answering that. It's true that we invested, we acquired Ele.me and have been investing in it for many years. I think I would begin by saying that Ele.me has actually made a lot of progress over these years, and that may not be reflected in market share because market share is related to our investment as well as our strategy, as well as traffic. I would say that over these years, Ele.me has made tremendous improvement in terms of infrastructure development and capabilities development. If that weren't the case, then it simply wouldn't have been possible for Taobao Instant Commerce to have achieved such rapid development in such a short period of time.

Period of time, we couldnt start from zero and build this business from scratch in just.

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Related to our investment, as well as our strategy, uh, as well as, um, uh, traffic. Uh,

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Lydia Lu: You know, we couldn't start from zero and build this business from scratch and in just two to four months be able to service 120 million orders, and not just 120 million orders, but to do so with an excellent user experience. I think that all of that credit goes to Ele.me and the experience and capabilities that we built up following that acquisition.

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Eddie Wu: 对, 然后这个业务因为他需要有足够多的商户, 有足够多的运力, 然后也需要有足够多的C端的用户, 只有在这三者都具备的情况下, 我们的投资才是有效率的。对, 如果这三者其中有一端或者两端都非常的弱的话, 那我们的这个投入效率会非常低。那么今天恰巧阿里巴巴跟淘宝的这样的一个整合, 我们可以看到我们有淘宝这样海量的用户, 并且都是非常活跃的用户, 然后我们有阿里巴巴基础的这样的一个商户, 同时也有我们的一个整个运力的就是物流的这样的一个体系。那么我们在这个基础上做这样的一个投资。对, 然后第二就是说我们这个投资的这样的一个逻辑并不是只单独看外卖这个业务, 而是看一个在整个电商短期、中期、长期的这样的一个综合的收益。我们的这样的一个思考逻辑也是跟以前是有差异的。对, 当然能把这个业务要把它做好, 我们还是有非常多的工作要去努力的。

But, uh, I I would say that, uh, over these years, uh, ulma has uh, uh, made tremendous Improvement in terms of uh infrastructure, uh, development and capabilities, uh, development. And if that weren't the case, then it simply wouldn't have been possible for Tabo instant Commerce to have achieved such rapid development in such a short, uh, period of time. You know, we couldn't start from zero and build this business from scratch and in just, uh, 2 to 4 months, uh, be able to, uh, service, 120 million, uh, orders, uh, and not just, uh, 120 million orders, but to do so, with an excellent user, uh, experience, uh, I I think that all of that credit goes to, uh, ulma and the, uh, the experience and capabilities that we built up following that acquisition

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Consumers users on the consumer end.

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And at the same time, we also have the fulfillment capacity the logistic system that we have built up so that's the foundation on which we're making this investment.

Lydia Lu: To get this business right, you need to have enough merchants, you need to have enough fulfillment capacity or delivery capacity, and you need to have enough consumers, users on the consumer end. If you're lacking in any one of those things, then your investment efficiency is going to be poor. In terms of where we are today following the integration of Ele.me into the Taobao app, we have a vast number of users on Taobao, and these are highly active users. We also have the merchant base that has been built up on Ele.me, and at the same time, we also have the fulfillment capacity, the logistics system that we have built up. That's the foundation on which we're making this investment.

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And then the second thing I would say.

It relates to our investment logic the way we think about this because we are not simply looking at the a quick commerce business on a standalone basis, we're really looking at.

What it can do the overall incremental positive benefit it can provide for our overall e-commerce business in the short term in the medium term and in the long term so the logic and the way we're thinking about this is different.

To get this business, right? Uh, you need to have uh enough Merchants. You need to have uh enough uh, fulfillment capacity, or delivery capacity, and you need to have enough uh uh consumers, uh, users on the consumer end. Uh, and if you're lacking in any 1 of those things, then your investment efficiency is uh, going to be, uh, poor.

From the past.

And of course for us to get this business right and succeed in all of those goals are still a lot of work that we need to do.

Operator, let's take the last question.

Thank you. Your next question comes from Gary Yu at Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Lydia Lu: The second thing I would say relates to our investment logic, the way we think about this, because we're not simply looking at the QuickCommerce business on a standalone basis. We're really looking at what it can do, the overall incremental positive benefit it can provide for our overall e-commerce business in the short term, in the medium term, and in the long term. The logic and the way we're thinking about this is different from the past. Of course, for us to get this business right and succeed in all those goals, there is still a lot of work that we need to do.

Hi, Thank you management for the opportunity I have a question regarding return on invested capital.

Given that we are now spending close to $50 billion.

A couple of months on quick commerce.

How should we look at the rate of return of invested capital from these investment because I would imagine at the same amount were to be spent on something on AI maybe with.

A much bigger tam than lets Baker.

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Faster growth in cloud.

We may be able to see a much better return on investment. So how should we think about how we allocate capital Intel away between.

Retail and AI investment going forward. Thank you.

What it what it can do, the overall incremental, uh, positive benefit. It can provide for our overall e-commerce business in the, the short term in the medium term and, uh, in the long term. So the, the logic and the way we're thinking about, this is a different, uh, from the past uh, uh, and uh, of, of course, for us to get this business, uh, right and succeed in all those goals, there's still a lot of work that we need to do.

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Jiang Fan: Thank you. Your next question comes from Gary Yu at Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

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Toby Xu: Hi, thank you, management, for the opportunity. I have a question regarding return on invested capital. Given that we are now spending close to $50 billion in probably a couple of months on QuickCommerce, how should we look at the rate of return of invested capital from these investments? I would imagine if the same amount were to be spent on something on AI, maybe with much bigger TAM and much bigger, faster growth in cloud, we may be able to see a much better return on investment. How should we think about how we allocate capital internally between retail and AI investment going forward? Thank you.

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Operator: 好, 感谢管理层给我提问的机会。我的问题是关于投入资本的回报率。看来我们几个月的时间在即时零售方面大概投入接近¥50 billion。那我们应该怎么看待这些投资的回报率? 因为我想如果把同样的这些钱我们投在比如说在AI这一方面, 因为云这个增速更快, 而且这个潜在的市场规模, 这个所谓的TAM可能也更大。在内部来讲, 我们如何在零售和AI这两者之间分配我们的投资, 这一方面有什么想法?

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Lydia Lu: Thank you. As Eddie and I have both mentioned already on the call, we are faced with two huge historic opportunities today. The first of these is AI, which we've been discussing. The second is consumption, and the opportunity is to transform consumption from on that journey from e-commerce to local hyperlocal e-commerce to instant commerce. We absolutely need to firmly grasp both of those opportunities. They're both crucial.

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Eddie Wu: 对于在这两个领域的投入来看,当然这个金额是十分巨大的,从我们自己的角度也是历史性的这么样一个大的投入。但是就像我刚才在我准备的这个里面讲到的,我们不管是从能力的角度还是从资源的角度,资源的角度不管是从我们现金储备的角度还是我们的现金流的角度,还是我们的整个的资产负债表的整个的能力的角度,都让我们有足够的资源在这两个方面都进行用个Eddie的话叫饱和式的一个投入。那对我们来讲最关键的这个投入的方向是怎么去平衡好一个短期跟长期的回报的关系。那用一个这个AI方面的投入来讲,我觉得大家已经很明显的看得到,因为这样一个投入带来了我们的云的一个整个增速的不断的提升。刚才Eddie也提了,不光是这个季度,我们预计在未来的几个季度也进一步会提升。这里当然回来从整个的EBITDA margin的角度,在因为的整个的一个增量的投入,我们目前的first priority还是这个投入。所以对于利润率的角度,可能我们看的会相对少一些,但不代表我们不关注利润率。这在AI方面,对于闪购方面的投入,正如刚才蒋凡讲的,在现在的投入的角度,虽然我们从最终的在这个即时零售上我们还没有赚钱,但是我们已经明显看得到跟淘天的整体的结合,因为带来的流量,因为带来的整体的频次的提升,以及这些流量跟频次的提升能带来淘宝这样一个平台的广告等等的提升,包括从原厂向经常转移的提升,这些都是在未来会产生很好的收益的这样一个投入。在这里我想我们有足够的资源,我们更关键的要聚焦的是,更关键要注意的是,我们不能只是考虑短期的一个回报,而放弃一个长期的回报。我们需要很好的平衡好这一点。

Uh, thank you. Well, as Eddie and I, uh, have both mentioned, uh, already on the call. We are faced with 2, uh, huge historic opportunities today. The first of these is is AI which we've been discussing, but the second is uh, consumption and the opportunity is uh to transform consumption from uh on that Journey from e-commerce to local hyperlocal e-commerce to instant uh Commerce and uh we absolutely need to firmly grasp, both of those opportunities. They're both crucial.

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So in terms of our investment in both of those areas of course, we're talking about very substantial very large investments.

And from our own point of view these are historic.

Eric investments.

That we're making.

As I said in my prepared remarks.

Be it from the perspective of our capabilities or our resources.

First priority.

I want to talk about resources that could include our cash reserves as well as our cash flows.

As well as our resources across our entire balance sheet we.

We have sufficient resources to be able to make these very substantial investments.

As Eddie said investments at scale.

Both of these are huge opportunities.

So the key for us.

Really is how to balance short term versus long term.

Returns.

Where the priority should lie.

And.

We can look at that in the context of our AI investments that we've been making and I think you will also have seen very clearly already that these investments have already driven.

Lydia Lu: In terms of our investment in both of those areas, of course we're talking about very substantial, very large investments. From our own point of view, these are historic investments that we're making. As I said in my prepared remarks, be it from the perspective of our capabilities or our resources, and when I talk about resources, that can include our cash reserves as well as our cash flows, as well as resources across our entire balance sheet, we have sufficient resources to be able to make these very substantial investments. As Eddie said, investments at scale in both of these huge opportunities. The key for us really is how to balance short-term versus long-term returns and where the priority should lie. We can look at that in the context of our AI investments that we've been making.

The increase in the growth rate of our cloud business.

As was just said earlier.

That's not just for this quarter, but we expect the following few quarters to also.

The increase in the growth rate.

In cloud.

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Course, we will.

Also look at the business from the point of view of.

EBITA.

Margin.

But our first priority at this point is on making these investments.

Not making.

Profits from the profit rate.

The higher of those two priority. So it doesn't mean that we're not looking at and we don't care about profit rates of course.

So in terms of AI.

AI investments and the investments in our quick commerce as junk fan.

So, in terms of our investment in both of those areas, of course, we're talking about a very substantial, very large Investments. Uh and from our own point of view, these are uh, historic Investments, uh, that we're making. Uh, as I said, in my prepared remarks, uh, be it from the perspective of our capabilities or our, uh, resources. Uh, I want to talk about resources that could include our cash reserves as well as our cash flows, uh, as well as resources as a cross, our entire balance sheet. Uh, we have sufficient resources to be able to make these very substantial Investments, uh, as, as Eddie said, Investments at scale, uh, in both of these, uh, huge opportunities. Uh, so the, the key for us, uh, really is how to, uh, balance the short-term, uh, versus long-term, uh, returns, uh, and where the priority should lie. Uh, and uh,

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We're not yet making any money from those investments in the instant Congress, but we can already see very clearly that with the integration of instant commerce into the taobao App, that's driving increased traffic it's driving increased.

Lydia Lu: I think you will also have seen very clearly already that these investments have already driven an increase in the growth rate of our cloud business. As was just said earlier, that's not just for this quarter, but we expect the following few quarters to also see an increase in the growth rate in cloud. We will also look at the business from the point of view of EBITDA margin, but our first priority at this point is on making these investments and not making profits, the profit rate the higher of those two priorities. That doesn't mean that we're not looking at and we don't care about profit rates, of course.

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All of these investments are going to drive.

Good returns going forward.

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I am confident that we have sufficient resources.

Uh, we, we can look at that in the context of our AI Investments that we've, uh, been making. Uh, and I think you will also have seen very clearly already that, uh, these Investments have already, uh, driven, uh, uh, increase in the, uh, growth rate of our Cloud business. Uh, as was just said, uh, earlier. Uh, that's not just for this quarter, but we expect the following few quarters to also see, uh, increase in the growth rate, uh, in, uh, Cloud. Uh, so, uh, of course we will. Uh, also, uh, look at the business from the point of view of of, uh, Evita uh, margin. Uh, but our first priority at this point is on, uh, making these uh, Investments. Uh,

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Critical I think it's important to note that we should not simply focus on short term returns and by doing so news out on.

Uh, profits, uh, from the profit rate, uh, the higher of those two priorities. So, it doesn't mean that we're not looking at and we don't care about, uh, the profit rates, of course.

Lydia Lu: In terms of AI investments and the investments in QuickCommerce, as Jiang Fan just said, we're not yet making any money from those investments in instant commerce, but we can already see very clearly that with the integration of instant commerce into the Taobao app, that's driving increased traffic, it's driving increased frequency, and as a result of that, that's also driving increased advertising as well on the platform. With the progression from e-commerce to instant commerce, all of these investments are going to drive good returns going forward. I'm confident that we have sufficient resources to be able to do this and to remain focused on what is truly critical. I think it's important to note that we should not simply focus on short-term returns and by doing so lose out on the opportunity to make those long-term returns. This does require the proper balance.

uh,

The opportunity to make those out long term returns. So this does require the.

So, in terms of AI investments and the investments in quick commerce, as Tang Fan just said.

uh,

Proper balance.

Thank you everyone for joining us today, we appreciate your time and we look forward to speaking with you again soon.

Yeah.

Thank you that concludes our conference for today you may now disconnect your lines.

Uh, we're we're not yet, uh, making any money from those investments in instant Congress, but we can already see, uh, very clearly that with the, uh, uh, integration of instant Commerce into, uh, the taba app that's, uh, driving increased, uh, traffic. It's driving increased, uh, frequency, uh, and, uh, as a result of that, uh, that's also driving increased, uh, advertising as well on the, uh, platform. Uh, so with the progression from, uh, e-commerce to, uh, instant Commerce, uh, all of these Investments are going to, uh, Drive, uh, good returns going forward. Uh, and, uh, I'm confident that we have sufficient, uh, resources, uh, to be able to, uh, uh, do this and to remain focused on what is truly, uh, critical. Uh, I think it's important to note that we, uh,

Should not simply focus on short-term returns and, by doing so, lose out on the opportunity to make those long-term returns. So, this does require the proper balance.

Rob Lin: Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We appreciate your time, and we look forward to speaking with you again soon.

Thank you all for joining us today. We appreciate your time, and we look forward to speaking with you again soon.

Jiang Fan: Thank you. That concludes our conference for today. Thank you, management.

Toby Xu: Thank you.

Jiang Fan: Thank you.

Thank you. That concludes our conference for today. Thank you.

Q1 2026 Alibaba Group Holding Ltd Earnings Call

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Alibaba

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Q1 2026 Alibaba Group Holding Ltd Earnings Call

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Friday, August 29th, 2025 at 11:30 AM

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