Q2 2026 Hooker Furnishings Corp Earnings Call
Speaker 2: Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Hooker Furnishings Corporation's second quarter 2026 earnings webcast. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. Please be advised that today's conference may be recorded. I will now hand the conference over to your speaker host, Earl Armstrong, the company CFO. Please go ahead, sir.
Speaker #2: Good day, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Hooker Furnishings Corp Q2 2026 earnings webcast. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode.
Speaker #2: After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press *11 on your telephone.
Speaker #2: You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. Please be advised that today's conference may be recorded. I will now hand the conference over to your speaker host, Earl Armstrong of the company's CFO.
Speaker #2: Please go ahead, sir.
Earl Armstrong: Thank you, Livia, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to our quarterly conference call to review financial results for the fiscal 2026 second quarter, which began May 5 and ended August 3, 2025. Joining me this morning is Jeremy Hoff, our Chief Executive Officer. We appreciate your participation today. During our call, we may make forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties. A discussion of factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from management's expectations is contained in our press release and SEC filing announcing our fiscal 2026 second quarter results. Any forward-looking statement speaks only as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statement to reflect events or circumstances after today's call. The results across segments were mixed in the fiscal 2026 second quarter.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Livia, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to our quarterly conference call to review financial results for the fiscal 2026 second quarter, which began on May 5 and ended on August 3, 2025.
Speaker #3: Joining me this morning is Jeremy Hoff, our Chief Executive Officer. We appreciate your participation today. During our call, we may make forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties.
Speaker #3: A discussion of factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from management's expectations is contained in our press release and SEC filing announcing our fiscal Q2 2026 results.
Speaker #3: Any forward-looking statement speaks only as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statement to reflect events or circumstances after today's call.
Speaker #3: The results across segments were mixed in the fiscal 2026 second quarter. On the HOOKER legacy side, HOOKER branded net sales were up 1.3% year over year, and domestic upholstery net sales were consistent with the prior year's second quarter.
Earl Armstrong: On the Hooker legacy side, Hooker branded net sales were up 1.3% year over year, and domestic upholstery net sales were consistent with the prior year's second quarter. Hooker branded reached breakeven compared to a $329,000 loss in the same quarter last year, despite absorbing $655,000 in restructuring costs, primarily related to severance. Domestic upholstery, which recorded $152,000 in restructuring costs this quarter, reduced its operating loss from $1.3 million to $408,000. These improvements reflect the progress of our cost reduction and restructuring initiatives. In contrast, Home Meridian net sales were down 44.5% compared to the prior year's second quarter, as this segment was heavily impacted by tariff-related buying hesitancy and persistent macroeconomic pressures among its value-focused customer base. Additionally, shipments in its hospitality business declined compared to the prior year's second quarter due to the timing associated with the project-based nature of this business.
Speaker #3: HOOKER branded reached break-even compared to a $329,000 loss in the same quarter last year, despite absorbing $655,000 in restructuring costs, primarily related to severance.
Speaker #3: Domestic upholstery, which recorded $152,000 in restructuring cost this quarter, reduced its operating loss from $1.3 million to $408,000. These improvements reflect the progress of our cost reduction and restructuring initiatives.
Speaker #3: In contrast, home meridian net sales were down 44.5% compared to the prior year's second quarter, as this segment was heavily impacted by tariff-related buying hesitancy and persistent macroeconomic pressures among its value-focused customer base.
Speaker #3: Additionally, shipments and its hospitality business declined compared to the prior year's second quarter due to the timing associated with the project-based nature of this business.
Earl Armstrong: The loss of a major customer due to its bankruptcy last year accounted for about 25% of Home Meridian's sales decrease. As a result, consolidated net sales for the second quarter were $82.1 million, down $13 million, or 13.6% from the same period last year, driven primarily by sales declines at Home Meridian. Consolidated operating loss was $4.4 million compared to $3.1 million in the prior year quarter, reflecting lower sales volume and unfavorable customer mix at Home Meridian, as well as $2 million in total restructuring costs. The consolidated net loss was $3.3 million, or $0.31 per share. During the first six months of fiscal 2026, consolidated net sales declined by $21 million, or 11.2% compared to the same period last year.
Speaker #3: The loss of a major customer due to its bankruptcy last year accounted for about 25% of home meridian's sales decrease. As a result, consolidated net sales for the second quarter were $82.1 million down $13 million or 13.6% from the same period last year.
Speaker #3: Driven primarily by sales declines at Home Meridian, the consolidated operating loss was $4.4 million compared to $3.1 million in the prior year quarter, reflecting lower sales volume and an unfavorable customer mix at Home Meridian.
Speaker #3: As well as $2 million in total restructuring costs. The consolidated net loss was $3.3 million, or 31 cents per share. During the first six months of fiscal '26, consolidated net sales declined by $21 million, or 11.2% compared to the same period last year.
Earl Armstrong: The decrease was also driven primarily by lower sales at Home Meridian due to the factors just discussed, along with a modest 1.7% decline in domestic upholstery, reflecting soft demand. Including $2.5 million in restructuring costs recorded during the period and significant sales volume decline, the consolidated operating loss of $8 million remained consistent with the prior year period, reflecting improvements on the legacy Hooker side. Net loss for the six-month period was $6.3 million, or $0.60 per diluted share. Now I'll turn the call over to Jeremy for his comments on our fiscal 2026 second quarter results.
Speaker #3: The decrease was also driven primarily by lower sales at Home Meridian, due to the factors just discussed, along with a modest 1.7% decline at domestic upholstery.
Speaker #3: Reflecting soft demand, including $2.5 million in restructuring costs recorded during the period and a significant sales volume decline, the consolidated operating loss of $8 million remained consistent with the prior year period.
Speaker #3: Reflecting improvements on the legacy HOOKER side, net loss for the six-month period was $6.3 million, or $0.60 per diluted share. Now I turn the call over to Jeremy for his comments on our fiscal 2026 second quarter results.
Jeremy Hoff: Thank you, Earl, and good morning, everyone. Hooker Furnishings is taking decisive steps to return the business to profitability. Our cost reduction efforts and focus on growth initiatives will position the company to maintain resilience in today's challenging environment and to strategically capture growth when demand returns. As Earl mentioned, Hooker branded broke even in the quarter despite weak demand and $655,000 in restructuring charges, and domestic upholstery reduced its operating loss nearly 70%, even including $152,000 of restructuring costs. At HMI, we have de-risked it significantly over the last several years and continue to further that effort. These actions have been obscured by weak demand in the home furnishings industry due to an extremely weak housing environment and tariff buying hesitancy in the market segment in which HMI competes.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Earl, and good morning, everyone. HOOKER FURNISHINGS is taking decisive steps to return the business to profitability. Our cost reduction efforts and focus on growth initiatives will position the company to maintain resilience in today's challenging environment and to strategically capture growth when demand returns.
Speaker #4: As Earl mentioned, HOOKER branded broke even in the quarter, despite weak demand and $655,000 in restructuring charges. Additionally, domestic upholstery reduced its operating loss by nearly 70%, even when including $152,000 in restructuring costs.
Speaker #4: At HMI, we have de-risked its significantly over the last several years and continue to further that effort. These actions have been obscured by weak demand in the home furnishings industry due to an extremely weak housing environment and tariff buying hesitancy in the market segment in which HMI competes.
Jeremy Hoff: By the end of our fiscal 2026 third quarter, we believe HMI's fixed cost structure will be aligned to support what we believe to be a sustainable business and one in which sales can be significantly scaled from current levels when demand returns. Barring additional tariffs or other significant disruptive events, we expect HMI's performance to be significantly enhanced by the end of the current fiscal year. We are confident that the actions we've taken, scaling fixed costs, reducing debt, and launching compelling new product lines, provide the foundation for long-term value creation. Importantly, we are on track to have our new expense structure largely in place by the end of the third quarter, supporting a path to profitability even at current revenue levels. Our multi-phase plan to scale our fixed cost structure for sustained profitability in a downturn is on track and beginning to yield significant results.
Speaker #4: By the end of our fiscal Q3 '26, we believe HMI's fixed cost structure will be aligned to support what we believe to be a sustainable business and one in which sales can be significantly scaled from current levels when demand returns.
Speaker #4: Barring additional tariffs or other significant disruptive events, we expect HMI's performance to be significantly enhanced by the end of the current fiscal year. We are confident that the actions we've taken—scaling fixed costs, reducing debt, and launching compelling new product lines—provide the foundation for long-term value creation.
Speaker #4: Importantly, we are on track to have our new expense structure largely in place by the end of the third quarter, supporting a path to profitability even at current revenue levels.
Speaker #4: Our multi-phase plan to scale our fixed cost structure for sustained profitability and a downturn is on track and beginning to yield significant results. While HMI results were challenged by tariff concerns and unfavorable customer and product mix, we had a $1.2 million improvement in operational results at HOOKER branded and domestic upholstery during the second quarter, despite the inclusion of about $800,000 in restructuring costs in the results.
Jeremy Hoff: While HMI results were challenged by tariff concerns and unfavorable customer and product mix, we had a $1.2 million improvement in operational results at Hooker branded and domestic upholstery during the second quarter, despite the inclusion of about $800,000 in restructuring costs in the results. We are becoming leaner and more efficient, underscored by efforts within domestic upholstery, where our focus on improving labor-to-revenue ratios is showing early progress and already reflected in stronger factory performance metrics. We are on target for our new expense structure, which reduces our fixed cost from fiscal 2025 by 25%, mostly in place by the end of the fiscal 2026 third quarter. We believe our enhanced operating discipline will support a path back to profitability in future periods, even as macroeconomic challenges and uncertainties persist.
Speaker #4: We are becoming leaner and more efficient, underscored by efforts within domestic upholstery. Our focus on improving labor-to-revenue ratios is showing early progress and is already reflected in stronger factory performance metrics.
Speaker #4: We are on target for our new expense structure, which reduces our fixed costs from fiscal '25 by 25%, mostly in place by the end of the fiscal '26 third quarter.
Speaker #4: We believe our enhanced operating discipline will support a path back to profitability and future periods, even as macroeconomic challenges and uncertainties persist. Critically, the thoughtful and deliberate way in which we are implementing this restructuring will not limit our ability to grow or fulfill orders and serve customers as market conditions improve.
Jeremy Hoff: Critically, the thoughtful and deliberate way in which we are implementing this restructuring will not limit our ability to grow or fulfill orders and serve customers as market conditions improve. While our comprehensive restructuring efforts continue across all three segments, we continue to adapt to the changing industry and invest in the highest growth opportunities. Our upcoming Margaritaville collection launch at the October High Point Market positions us well for the second half of fiscal 2027. Ahead of the launch and expected benefit, our new Vietnam fulfillment warehouse is already delivering on its promise of shortening container lead times from six months to roughly four to six weeks and creating new opportunities for customers to mix product collections on containers. Additionally, we believe these efficiencies will lower our overall global inventory. Finally, I'd like to comment on our adjustments to tariffs on imported furniture and components.
Speaker #4: While our comprehensive restructuring efforts continue across all three segments, we continue to adapt to the changing industry and invest in the highest growth opportunities.
Speaker #4: Our upcoming margarita bill launch at the October High Point Market positions us well for the second half of fiscal '27. Ahead of the launch, the expected benefit of our new Vietnam fulfillment warehouse is already delivering on its promise of shortening container lead times from six months to roughly four to six weeks, and creating new opportunities for customers to mix product collections on containers.
Speaker #4: Additionally, we believe these efficiencies will lower our overall global inventory. Finally, I'd like to comment on our adjustments to tariffs on imported furniture and components.
Jeremy Hoff: In late July, the U.S. government announced a 20% tariff rate on imports from Vietnam, the main source country for Hooker Furnishings Corporation and the home furnishings industry, effective August 1, 2025. Each of our segments is taking a different approach to mitigating the Vietnam tariffs. For domestic upholstery, the impact is on component parts and fabrics, and we're able to mitigate through incremental measures such as new fabric sourcing. For Hooker branded, we remerchandise the line to manage the impact of the 20% tariff, evaluating pricing on a SKU-by-SKU basis rather than a blanket price increase. At Home Meridian International, we believe we have implemented near-term mitigation efforts to balance the value equation in the more price-sensitive and competitive segment.
Speaker #4: In late July, the U.S. government announced a 20% tariff rate on imports from Vietnam, the main source country for Hooker and the home furnishings industry, effective August 1, 2025.
Speaker #4: Each of our segments is taking a different approach to mitigating the Vietnam tariffs. For domestic upholstery, the impact is on component parts and fabrics, and we're able to mitigate through incremental measures such as new fabric sourcing.
Speaker #4: For HOOKER branded, we remerchandised the line to manage the impact of the 20% tariff, evaluating pricing on a SKU-by-SKU basis rather than a blanket price increase.
Speaker #4: At HMI, we believe we have implemented near-term mitigation efforts to balance the value equation in the more price-sensitive and competitive segment. Now, I want to turn the discussion back over to Earl, who will outline the details of our cost reduction strategy, as well as discuss highlights in each of our segments.
Jeremy Hoff: Now I want to turn the discussion back over to Earl Armstrong, who will outline the details of our cost reduction strategy, as well as discuss highlights in each of our segments.
Earl Armstrong: Thank you, Jeremy. We're well into our multi-phase cost reduction plan to eliminate roughly $25 million, or 25% of our fixed cost. This includes an estimated $11 million in warehousing and distribution expenses, which is reported in cost of sales, and $14 million in selling and administrative expenses. In fiscal 2025, we identified $10 million in expense reductions and were able to achieve $3 million in savings in that fiscal year. In fiscal 2026, we identified an additional $15 million in expense reductions. In the first half of fiscal 2026, we achieved $3.7 million in expense reductions, despite having recorded $1.7 million in restructuring charges.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Jeremy. We are well into our multi-phase cost reduction plan to eliminate roughly $25 million, or 25%, of our fixed costs. This includes an estimated $11 million in warehousing and distribution expenses, which is reported in cost of sales, and $14 million in selling and administrative expenses.
Speaker #3: In fiscal 2025, we identified $10 million in expense reductions and were able to achieve $3 million in savings in that fiscal year. In fiscal 2026, we identified an additional $15 million in expense reductions.
Speaker #3: In the first half of fiscal '26, we achieved $3.7 million in expense reductions, despite having recorded $1.7 million in restructuring charges. We expect to achieve additional savings in the second half of the year from both initiatives, and we believe we are on track to achieve $25 million in annual cost savings beginning in fiscal '27.
Earl Armstrong: We expect to achieve additional savings in the second half of the year from both initiatives, and we believe we are on track to achieve $25 million in annual lost cost savings beginning in fiscal 2027, which should largely be in place by the end of the fiscal 2026 third quarter. Now I'd like to review our segment reporting versus prior year periods. Hooker branded. The Hooker branded segment posted modest growth in the second quarter of fiscal 2026, with net sales up $465,000, or 1.3%. Higher average selling prices drove the increase, partly offset by higher discounting. For the first six months, sales rose $766,000, or 1.1%, reflecting higher unit volume, partially offset by discounting to balance inventory mix and levels.
Speaker #3: Which should largely be in place by the end of the fiscal 2026 third quarter. Now, I'd like to review our segment reporting versus prior year periods.
Speaker #3: HOOKER branded. The HOOKER branded segment posted modest growth in the second quarter of fiscal '26, with net sales up $465,000, or 1.3%. Higher average selling prices drove the increase, partly offset by higher discounting.
Speaker #3: For the first six months, sales rose $766,000, or 1.1%, reflecting higher unit volume, partially offset by discounting to balance inventory mix and levels. Gross profit declined $167,000 in the second quarter, with gross margins down 80 basis points, mainly due to lower margins on discounted items and, to a lesser extent, tariff-related product costs.
Earl Armstrong: Gross profit declined $167,000 in the second quarter, with gross margins down 80 basis points, mainly due to lower margins on discounted items and to a lesser extent, tariff-related product costs. For the six-month period, gross profit decreased $560,000, with margin down 100 basis points due to the same factors. Hooker branded achieved breakeven operating results for the quarter and six-month period. Restructuring costs of $655,000 and $782,000 were recorded in these periods, respectively. Incoming orders grew by nearly 11% during the quarter. The quarter-end backlog remained consistent with the previous year's second quarter-end, but increased by nearly 20% from fiscal year-end. Home Meridian. The Home Meridian segment's net sales declined $13.6 million, or about 44.5% in the second quarter of fiscal 2026. About 40% of the decline came from the project-based hospitality business, where two large projects entered the shipping phase in the second quarter of last year.
Speaker #3: For the six-month period, gross profit decreased $560,000, with margin down 100 basis points due to the same factors. HOOKER branded achieved break-even operating results for the quarter and six-month period, restructuring cost of $655,000 and $782,000 were recorded in these periods, respectively.
Speaker #3: Incoming orders grew by nearly 11% during the quarter. The quarter-end backlog remained consistent with the previous year's second quarter end, but increased by nearly 20% from fiscal year end.
Speaker #3: Home Meridian: The Home Meridian segment's net sales declined $13.6 million, or about 44.5%, in the second quarter of fiscal '26. About 40% of the decline came from the project-based hospitality business, where two large projects entered the shipping phase in the second quarter of last year.
Earl Armstrong: 35% of the decline came from traditional furniture channels due to macroeconomic pressures and tariff-related hesitancy, and 25% of the decline came from the loss of a major customer that filed for bankruptcy last year. Average selling prices also dropped sharply due to unfavorable product mix and inventory liquidation at the Georgia warehouse ahead of its closure. For the six-month period, net sales fell $21.2 million, or 37.2%. Gross profit decreased $4.9 million in the second quarter, primarily due to lower net sales. Gross margin decreased, driven by unfavorable customer and product mix, higher warehousing consolidation expenses, severance costs, and losses from inventory liquidation at the Georgia warehouse. For the six-month period, gross profit decreased $5.6 million, while gross margin contracted 590 basis points. Home Meridian incurred operating losses of $3.9 million for the second quarter and $6.8 million for the first half.
Speaker #3: 35% of the decline came from traditional furniture channels due to macroeconomic pressures and tariff-related hesitancy. Additionally, 25% of the decline came from the loss of a major customer that filed for bankruptcy last year.
Speaker #3: Average selling prices also dropped sharply due to an unfavorable product mix and inventory liquidation at the Georgia warehouse ahead of its closure. For the six-month period, net sales fell by $21.2 million, or 37.2%.
Speaker #3: Gross profit decreased by $4.9 million in the second quarter, primarily due to lower net sales. Gross margin decreased, driven by unfavorable customer and product mix, higher warehousing consolidation expenses, severance costs, and losses from inventory liquidation at the Georgia warehouse.
Speaker #3: For the six-month period, gross profit decreased by $5.6 million, while gross margin contracted by 590 basis points. Home Meridian incurred operating losses of $3.9 million for the second quarter and $6.8 million for the first half.
Earl Armstrong: Restructuring costs of $1.2 million and $1.4 million were recorded for the quarter and the six-month period, respectively. Incoming orders and backlog decreased significantly due to reduced demand from traditional channels and the loss of a major customer due to its bankruptcy. Reduced demand was compounded by fewer orders in the project-based hospitality business. Domestic upholstery. The domestic upholstery segment's net sales were essentially flat in the second quarter compared to last year. Three divisions in the segment posted sales increases, while the outdoor brand saw sales fall around 10% due to supply chain disruptions in Vietnam and China, which stabilized after quarter-end. For the six-month period, segment sales declined $1 million, or about 1.7%. Gross profit for the segment rose $659,000 in the second quarter and $1.2 million year to date, with margins expanding by 220 and 240 basis points, respectively.
Speaker #3: Restructuring costs of $1.2 million and $1.4 million were recorded for the quarter and the six-month period, respectively. Incoming orders and backlog decreased significantly due to reduced demand from traditional channels and the loss of a major customer due to its bankruptcy.
Speaker #3: Reduced demand was compounded by fewer orders in the project-based hospitality business. Domestic upholstery: the domestic upholstery segment's net sales were essentially flat in the second quarter compared to last year.
Speaker #3: Three divisions in the segment posted sales increases, while the outdoor brand saw sales fall around 10% due to supply chain disruptions in Vietnam and China, which stabilized after quarter-end.
Speaker #3: For the six-month period, segment sales declined by $1 million, or about 1.7%. Gross profit for the segment rose by $659,000 in the second quarter and $1.2 million year to date.
Speaker #3: With margins expanding by 220 and 240 basis points, respectively, direct material costs remained steady, while labor and indirect costs declined, supported by improved absorption from higher sales and increased production capacity.
Earl Armstrong: Direct material costs remained steady, while labor and indirect costs declined, supported by improved absorption from higher sales and increased production capacity. Warehousing and distribution expenses also decreased across most categories, further strengthening profitability. Our domestic upholstery divisions are making strides in operational efficiency. We are focused on improving labor-to-revenue ratios, and early progress is already reflected in stronger factory performance. Domestic upholstery significantly reduced operating losses by $877,000, or 68%, and $1.6 million, or 61%, compared to the second quarter and first half of last year, respectively. Restructuring costs of $152,000 and $265,000 were recorded for the quarter and six-month period, respectively. Incoming orders in that segment increased by 1.6%, with quarter-end backlog increasing by about 7% from the prior year's second quarter and year-end. I'd like to conclude my remarks with comments on our capital allocation strategy.
Speaker #3: Warehousing and distribution expenses also decreased across most categories, further strengthening profitability. Our domestic upholstery divisions are making strides in operational efficiency. We are focused on improving labor-to-revenue ratios and early progress is already reflected in stronger factory performance.
Speaker #3: Domestic upholstery significantly reduced operating losses by $877,000, or 68%, and $1.6 million, or 61%, compared to the second quarter and first half of last year, respectively.
Speaker #3: Restructuring costs of $152,000 and $265,000 were recorded for the quarter and six-month period, respectively. Incoming orders in that segment increased by 1.6%, with the quarter-end backlog increasing by about 7% from the prior year's second quarter and year-end.
Speaker #3: I'd like to conclude my remarks with comments on our capital allocation strategy. Over the past year, we reduced debt, strengthened liquidity, and continued returning capital to shareholders through dividends.
Earl Armstrong: Over the past year, we reduced debt, strengthened liquidity, and continued returning capital to shareholders through dividends, supported by the extensive cost-saving measures we've embedded throughout the organization. These efforts are enhancing near-term liquidity and creating a foundation for strategic growth. As of yesterday, the company had approximately $1.9 million in cash on hand, no outstanding amounts due under its credit facility, with $67.9 million in available borrowing capacity net of standby letters of credit. As we progress through the year, our focus will remain on capital allocation strategies that drive long-term value creation and balancing our cost initiatives with key growth priorities. Now I'll turn the discussion back to Jeremy for his outlook.
Speaker #3: Supported by the extensive cost-saving measures, we've embedded throughout the organization. These efforts are enhancing near-term liquidity, and creating a foundation for strategic growth. As of yesterday, the company had approximately $1.9 million in cash on hand, no outstanding amounts due under its credit facility, with 67.9 million in available borrowing capacity net of standby letters of credit.
Speaker #3: As we progress through the year, our focus will remain on capital allocation strategies, debt-driven long-term value creation, and balancing our cost initiatives with key growth priorities.
Speaker #3: Now I'll turn the discussion back to Jeremy for his outlook.
Jeremy Hoff: At the beginning and end of the quarter, we saw encouraging momentum in Hooker legacy orders, with July orders up 24% year over year at both Hooker branded and domestic upholstery. For the quarter, Hooker branded orders were up nearly 11%, and domestic upholstery were up 1.6%. That said, the home furnishings industry continues to face headwinds from low existing home sales, elevated mortgage rates, and persistent inflation, all of which are weighing on consumer confidence and demand. We remain focused on factors within our control, scaling our cost structure for profitability, preparing for the October debut of the Margaritaville collection, and pursuing growth in hospitality contract and outdoor channels supported by the new Vietnam warehouse. These initiatives position us well to navigate near-term challenges and capitalize on opportunities when the market recovers, creating long-term value for our shareholders.
Speaker #4: At the beginning and end of the quarter, we saw encouraging momentum in HOOKER legacy orders, with July orders up 24% year over year, at both HOOKER branded and domestic upholstery.
Speaker #4: For the quarter, HOOKER branded orders were up nearly 11%, and domestic upholstery were up 1.6%. That said, the home furnishings industry continues to face headwinds from low existing home sales, elevated mortgage rates, and persistent inflation, all of which are weighing on consumer confidence and demand.
Speaker #4: We remain focused on factors within our control, scaling our cost structure for profitability, preparing for the October debut of the margarita bill collection, and pursuing growth in hospitality contracts and outdoor channels, supported by the new Vietnam warehouse.
Speaker #4: These initiatives position us well to navigate near-term challenges and capitalize on opportunities when the market recovers, creating long-term value for our shareholders. This ends the formal part of our discussion, and at this time, I will turn the call back over to our operator, Livia, for questions.
Jeremy Hoff: This ends the formal part of our discussion, and at this time, I will turn the call back over to our operator, Livia, for questions.
Livia: Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, simply press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Now, first question coming from the line of Anthony Lipchinski with Fidelity, Elon Snowpen.
Speaker #2: Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press *11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced.
Speaker #2: To enjoy questions, simply press *11 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Now, first question coming from the line of Anthony Lepkinski with Sadoti Elan Snowden.
Anthony Lipchinski: Good morning, and thank you for taking the questions.
Speaker #5: Good morning, and thank you for taking the questions. So first, good morning Jeremy and Earl. So my first question is, you know, what's driving the increased orders or the momentum that you're seeing at HOOKER branded and domestic upholstery?
Jeremy Hoff: Morning.
Anthony Lipchinski: Good morning, Jeremy and Earl. My first question is, you know, what's driving the increased orders or the momentum that you're seeing at Hooker branded and domestic upholstery?
Jeremy Hoff: I think there's some subtle macro improvements happening at the retail level. We heard from a lot of our partners that Labor Day was very good for a lot of our customers. I think there's some, like I said, somewhat subtle momentum. I don't know if that's going to continue, but it seems to have been a pretty good push at least that time of the year.
Speaker #4: I think there's some subtle macro improvements happening at the retail level. You know, we heard from a lot of our partners that Labor Day was very good for a lot of our customers, and I think there's some, like I said, somewhat subtle momentum.
Speaker #4: I don't, you know, no one knows if, you know, that's going to continue, but it seems to have, you know, been a pretty good push, at least that time of the year.
Anthony Lipchinski: Gotcha. Okay. Yeah. Certainly, Labor Day is an important holiday. Was this kind of across the board that you heard this holiday momentum here in September, or did you see any sort of pockets of particular strength in some markets versus others?
Speaker #5: Gotcha. Okay, yeah. So certainly Labor Day is an important holiday. So, so was this kind of across the board that you heard this holiday momentum here in September, or did you see any sort of pockets of, you know, particular strength in some markets versus others?
Jeremy Hoff: It really was pretty consistent. We make a habit of talking to as many as we can across the country to get a read on whether it's regionalized or more of an overall push, and it seemed to be pretty consistent across the board.
Speaker #4: It really was pretty consistent. We make a habit of talking to as many as we can, you know, across the country, to get a read on whether it's regionalized or more of an overall push.
Speaker #4: And it seemed to be pretty consistent across the board.
Anthony Lipchinski: Gotcha. Okay. That's definitely encouraging to hear. You've done a lot with HMI to improve the business. It's still, unfortunately, your kind of biggest weak spot. How do we think about just getting that segment back to profitability? I don't know if it's an easy answer for you guys to say, but I mean, how much annual revenue do you guys need to get that segment to at least break even?
Speaker #5: Gotcha. Okay, that's definitely encouraging to hear. So you've done a lot with HMI to improve the business, you know, still unfortunately is still your kind of biggest kind of weak spot.
Speaker #5: So how do we think about just getting that segment back to profitability? I don't know if it's an easy answer for you guys to say, but I mean, how much annual revenue do you guys need to get that segment to at least break even?
Jeremy Hoff: I'm going to generalize because I have to, but really, the main driver to getting to short-term profitability, meaning, call it getting to that end of the third quarter when we've said that our cost savings will really be mostly intact, which is a 25% reduction from fiscal 2025 until the end of third quarter. That's how much we will have saved in our overall spending. Much of that has come out of the Home Meridian International overhead picture. Right now, for us, that is a big key to what you're asking. Once we're there, I believe we have really good ways of growing that business too. That really comes down to a lot of focus on the customers that we drive that business with and really focusing more on what matters to drive in the revenue at that company.
Speaker #4: You know, I'm in a generalized because I have to, but you know, the really the main driver to getting to short-term profitability, meaning, you know, call it getting to that end of the third quarter when we've said that our cost savings will really be mostly intact, which is, you know, 25% reduction from fiscal '25 until the end of the third quarter.
Speaker #4: That's how much we will have saved in our overall spending. Much of that has come out of the HMI overhead picture. So really right now, for us, that's that is a that is a big key to what you're asking.
Speaker #4: And once we're there, I believe we have really good ways of growing that business. That really comes down to a lot of focus on the customers that we drive that business with, and really focusing more on what matters to driving the revenue at that company.
Anthony Lipchinski: Gotcha. Okay. Understood. Okay. I guess, last question, just to clarify some of the restructuring impacts, it looks like it was overall $2 million for the quarter. Just roughly speaking, how much is that cost of goods versus selling and administrative costs in terms of how we think about the impact that had on the quarter?
Speaker #5: Gotcha. Okay. Understood. And I guess, you know, last question, just to clarify some of the restructuring impacts. So it looks like it was overall $2 million for the quarter.
Speaker #5: Just roughly speaking, how much is that, you know, cost of goods versus selling and administrative costs in terms of how we think about the impact that had on the quarter?
Earl Armstrong: Impact on the quarter, about two-thirds was in COGS and one-third in SG&A, roughly, and that would apply for the six-month period as well.
Speaker #4: Impact on the quarter, about two-thirds was in cogs and one-third in SG&A, roughly. And that would apply for the six-month period as well.
Anthony Lipchinski: That's very helpful, Earl. Thank you very much, and best of luck.
Speaker #5: That's very helpful, Earl. Well, thank you very much and best of luck.
Jeremy Hoff: Thank you, Anthony.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Anthony.
Livia: Thank you. Our next question, coming from the line of Dave Storms with Stonegate. The line is now open.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Dave Storms with Stonegate. Elan Snowden.
Dave Storms: Good morning.
Speaker #6: Good morning.
Jeremy Hoff: Good morning.
Speaker #4: Good Good morning.
Dave Storms: Just wanted to start maybe with the Margaritaville collection. You know, great to have that on the horizon. Is there anything more you can tell us about maybe the logistics remaining before the reveal or any early indicators of interest there?
Speaker #6: Just wanted to start maybe with Margarita Bill. You know, it's great to have that on the horizon. Is there anything more you can tell us about maybe the logistics remaining before the reveal or any early indicators of interest there?
Jeremy Hoff: Sorry, I missed part of your question. Did you say the logistics?
Speaker #4: Sorry, I missed part of your question. Did you say the logistics?
Dave Storms: Yeah, both the logistics to launch remaining and maybe any early indicators of interest before the launch.
Speaker #6: Yeah, both the logistics to launch remaining and maybe any early indicators of interest before the launch.
Jeremy Hoff: You know, it's been a massive undertaking from a product development standpoint, mainly because we see it as such a large opportunity for the company. It's going to be a significant number of SKUs. It's going to be a really significant presence in our showroom this October market for Hooker, Hooker Legacy, and really Sunset West as well. We're really excited. I'd say it's been an 18-month progression as far as when we started this to now. We've had some really positive early indicators from our partners that we're close with and talk to frequently about the direction, the name, how much that brand means, and how much people recognize it. It's really a different level for us from a brand perspective than what we've ever experienced. I mean, Hooker is a good furniture brand, but it's not a consumer brand.
Speaker #4: You know, it's been a massive undertaking from a product development standpoint. Mainly because we see it as such a large opportunity for the company.
Speaker #4: So you know, it's going to be significant number of SKUs, it's going to be a really significant presence in our showroom this October market for HOOKER legacy and really sunset west as well.
Speaker #4: So you know, we're really excited. I'd say it's been an 18-month progression as far as when we started this to now and you know, we're we've had some really positive early indicators from, you know, our partners that we're close with and talked to frequently about the direction and the name, how much that brand means and how much, you know, people recognize it.
Speaker #4: It's really a different level for us from a brand perspective than really what we've ever experienced. I mean, HOOKER is a good furniture brand, but it's not a consumer brand.
Jeremy Hoff: I think that has the potential to be pretty large for us.
Speaker #4: And I think that's that could that has a that has the potential to be pretty large for us.
Dave Storms: Understood. That's very helpful. Thank you. I was also hoping to get your thoughts around the price increases. I know you mentioned that you're evaluating going pricing on a SKU-by-SKU basis. Just curious as to when you think you'll maybe have your arms fully around that, or is that going to be more macro-driven?
Speaker #6: Understood. That's very helpful. Thank you. And then I was also hoping to get your thoughts around the price increases. I know you mentioned that you're evaluating pricing on a SKU-by-SKU basis.
Speaker #6: Just curious as to when you think you'll maybe have your arms fully around that, or is that going to be more macro-driven?
Jeremy Hoff: I would say that anything additional coming out that stays at the 20%, I would say our arms are clear around it at this point. You know, we went through, the industry went through so many gyrations of costing because, you know, you go back to pandemic, you had all the ocean freight increases and everything that was so volatile for a pretty significant period of time. A lot of companies, including us, did what I would call more of a, you know, peanut butter approach, raising overall prices, lowering prices. That is why on this particular thing, we went back and said, you know, over time, you lose some of your merchandising strategy if you don't really do the exercise SKU-by-SKU. We really took that time.
Speaker #4: I would say that I think additional coming out that stays at the 20%. I would say our arms are clear around it at this point.
Speaker #4: And you know, we went through the industry, went through so many gyrations of costing because, you know, you go back to the pandemic; you had all the ocean freight increases and everything that was so volatile for a pretty significant period of time.
Speaker #4: And a lot of companies, including us, did what I would call more of a, you know, peanut butter approach, you know, raising overall prices, lowering prices, and that's why on this particular thing we went back and said, you know, over time, you know, you lose your some of your merchandising strategy.
Speaker #4: If you don't really do the exercise SKU by SKU. So we really took that time. It took us a little longer than we usually like to take in these things, but I think, you know, in this situation, right is more important than fast.
Jeremy Hoff: It took us a little longer than we usually like to take in these things, but I think, you know, in this situation, right is more important than fast. We took the time to do what I feel was a great exercise for the company.
Speaker #4: And we took we took the time to do what I feel was a great exercise for the company.
Dave Storms: Are you seeing understanding downstream of that, or are you seeing any major sticking points for those increases?
Speaker #6: And are you seeing understanding downstream of that, or are you seeing any major sticking points for those increases?
Jeremy Hoff: We really aren't. You know, our company has a history, particularly on the Hooker side of it, of honoring our backlog for our customers. From our standpoint, the timing of increases coming in versus the timing of our price increase settling into our backlog and shipping is always a little off. Due to the high percentage of domestic warehouse shipment of that business, it can turn fairly quick compared to a container business overall because of the lead times being quicker. You can turn your backlog quicker. That's not as big of a factor on the Hooker side as it is usually.
Speaker #4: I'm really—we really aren't. You know, we, our company, has a history particularly on the Hooker side of it, of honoring our backlog for our customers.
Speaker #4: So really, from our standpoint, the timing of increases coming in versus the timing of our price increase settling into our backlog and shipping is always a little off.
Speaker #4: But due to the high percentage of domestic warehouse shipment of that business, it can turn fairly quick compared to a container business overall. Because of the lead times being quicker, so you can turn your backlog quicker.
Speaker #4: So that's not as big of a factor on the Hooker side as it is usually.
Dave Storms: Understood. That's super helpful. One more for me, if I could, more of a modeling question. It was mentioned that you're expecting an additional $2 million in charges in the second half of fiscal 2026. Is it safe to assume that those are going to be timed in or Q2 to coincide with the Savannah warehouse exit in October, or is there anything else we should maybe be keeping an eye out for there?
Speaker #6: Understood. That's super helpful. One more for me if I could, more of a modeling question. It was mentioned that you're expecting an additional $2 million in charges.
Speaker #6: In the second half of fiscal '26, is it safe to assume that those are going to be timed in 4Q to coincide with the Savannah warehouse exit?
Speaker #6: In October, is there anything else we should maybe be keeping an eye out for there?
Earl Armstrong: You're correct. It should be almost all related to the closing of that warehouse.
Speaker #5: You're correct. It should be most all related to the closing of that warehouse.
Dave Storms: That's perfect. Thank you for taking my questions, and good luck in the next quarter.
Speaker #6: That's perfect. Thank you for taking my questions, and good luck in the next quarter.
Jeremy Hoff: Absolutely. Thank you.
Speaker #4: Absolutely. Thank you.
Livia: Thank you. I'm showing no other questions in the queue at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Jeremy Hoff for any closing remarks.
Speaker #2: Thank you. I will now hand it over to questions in the queue at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Jeremy Hough for any closing remarks.
Jeremy Hoff: I would like to thank everyone on the call for their interest in Hooker Furnishings. We look forward to sharing our fiscal 2026 third quarter results in December. Take care.
Speaker #4: I would like to thank everyone on the call for their interest in Hooker Furnishings. We look forward to sharing our fiscal '26 third quarter results in December.
Speaker #4: Take care.
Livia: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation, and you may now disconnect.