Q4 2025 Laurentian Bank of Canada Earnings Call

December 5, 2025

Speaker #1: Welcome to the Laurentian Bank Financial Results Conference Call. Please note that this call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the meeting over to Raphael Ambeault, Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations.

Operator: Welcome to the Laurentian Bank Financial Results Conference Call. Please note that this call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the meeting over to Raphael Ambeault, Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Raphael.

Speaker #1: Please go ahead,

Speaker #1: Raphael. Bonjour à tous.

Raphael Ambeault: Bonjour à tous. Good morning, and thank you for joining us. Today's opening remarks will be delivered by Éric Provost, President and CEO, and the review of the fourth quarter and annual financial results will be presented by Yvan Deschamps, Executive Vice President and CFO, after which we'll invite questions from the phone. Also joining us for the question period is Christian De Brouwe, Executive Vice President and CRO. All documents pertaining to the quarter can be found on our website in the Investor Relations section. I'd like to remind you that during this conference call, forward-looking statements may be made, and it is possible that actual results may differ materially from those projected in such statements. For the complete cautionary note regarding forward-looking statements, please refer to our press release or to slide two of the presentation.

Raphaël Ambeault: Bonjour à tous. Good morning, and thank you for joining us. Today's opening remarks will be delivered by Éric Provost, President and CEO, and the review of the fourth quarter and annual financial results will be presented by Yvan Deschamps, Executive Vice President and CFO, after which we'll invite questions from the phone. Also joining us for the question period is Christian De Brouwe, Executive Vice President and CRO. All documents pertaining to the quarter can be found on our website in the Investor Relations section. I'd like to remind you that during this conference call, forward-looking statements may be made, and it is possible that actual results may differ materially from those projected in such statements. For the complete cautionary note regarding forward-looking statements, please refer to our press release or to slide two of the presentation.

Speaker #2: Good morning, and thank you for joining us. Today's opening remarks will be delivered by Eric Provost, President and CEO, and the review of the fourth quarter and annual financial results will be presented by Yvan Deschamps, Executive Vice President and CFO.

Speaker #2: After which, we'll invite questions from the phone. Also joining us for the question period is Q3, Executive Vice President and CRO. All documents pertaining to the quarter can be found on our website in the Investor Relations section.

Speaker #2: I would like to remind you that during this conference call, forward-looking statements may be made, and it is possible that actual results may differ materially from those projected in such statements.

Speaker #2: For the complete questioning note regarding forward-looking statements, please refer to our press release or to slide two of the presentation. I would also like to remind listeners that the bank assesses its performance on a reported and adjusted basis.

Raphael Ambeault: I would also like to remind listeners that the bank assesses its performance on a reported and adjusted basis and considers both to be useful in assessing underlying business performance. Éric and Yvan will be referring to adjusted results in their remarks unless otherwise noted as reported. I will now turn the call over to Éric.

I would also like to remind listeners that the bank assesses its performance on a reported and adjusted basis and considers both to be useful in assessing underlying business performance. Éric and Yvan will be referring to adjusted results in their remarks unless otherwise noted as reported. I will now turn the call over to Éric.

Speaker #2: And considers both to be useful in assessing underlying business performance. Eric Provost and Yvan Deschamps will be referring to adjusted results in their remarks unless otherwise noted as reported.

Speaker #2: I will now turn the call over to

Speaker #2: I will now turn the call over to Eric. Merci.

Éric Provost: Merci, Raphael. Bonjour à tous et bienvenue à notre conférence téléphonique pour le quatrième trimestre et pour l'exercice 2025. Good morning. Thanks for being with us today. Our roadmap for 2025 was ambitious. We are proud to report that we delivered against our plan, achieving several transformational milestones. Notably, the deployment of cloud-based systems has significantly improved our operational efficiency, resilience, and customer experience. These investments are foundational to building a bank that is agile, secure, and well-positioned for the future. Operational resiliency and redundancy were also meaningfully enhanced, enabling the bank to respond swiftly to change, maintain stability, and ensure consistent service delivery to our clients. Elevated interest rates and moderated economic activity influence other income streams, notably lending fees. Despite these headwinds, net interest income increased year over year, reflecting a more favorable business mix and an improved net interest margin.

Speaker #3: Raphael: Bonjour à tous et bienvenue à notre conférence téléphonique pour le quatrième trimestre et pour l'exercice 2025. Good morning. Thanks for being with us today.

Speaker #3: Our roadmap for 2025 was ambitious. We are proud to report that we delivered against our plan, achieving several transformational milestones. Notably, the deployment of cloud-based systems has significantly improved our operational efficiency, resilience, and customer experience.

Speaker #3: These investments are foundational to building a bank that is agile, secure, and well-positioned for the future. Operational resiliency and redundancy were also meaningfully enhanced, enabling the bank to respond swiftly to change, maintain stability, and ensure consistent service delivery to our clients.

Speaker #3: Elevated interest rates and moderated economic activity influence other income streams, notably lending fees. Despite these headwinds, net interest income increased year over year, reflecting a more favorable business mix and an improved net interest margin.

Speaker #3: Credit performance remained stable at 17 basis points, with slightly lower allowances for credit losses compared to 2024, supported by resilient asset quality and disciplined risk management.

Éric Provost: Credit performance remained stable at 17 basis points, with slightly lower allowances for credit losses compared to 2024, supported by resilient asset quality and disciplined risk management. In line with the spending levels outlined in our strategic plan, we continue to make targeted investments in IT infrastructure during the fourth quarter. These planned and essential initiatives are designed to simplify operations, strengthen resiliency, and deliver long-term efficiency gains for both our clients and shareholders. As a result, we close the year with an adjusted efficiency ratio of 75.2%, aligned with our guidance. The bank's divestitures of assets under administration from the full-service and Discount Brokerage Division earlier in the fiscal year contributed to lower non-interest expenses through reduced headcount and broker commissions, while also driving higher other income from the associated gain on the sale of the division on a reported basis.

Credit performance remained stable at 17 basis points, with slightly lower allowances for credit losses compared to 2024, supported by resilient asset quality and disciplined risk management. In line with the spending levels outlined in our strategic plan, we continue to make targeted investments in IT infrastructure during the fourth quarter. These planned and essential initiatives are designed to simplify operations, strengthen resiliency, and deliver long-term efficiency gains for both our clients and shareholders. As a result, we close the year with an adjusted efficiency ratio of 75.2%, aligned with our guidance. The bank's divestitures of assets under administration from the full-service and Discount Brokerage Division earlier in the fiscal year contributed to lower non-interest expenses through reduced headcount and broker commissions, while also driving higher other income from the associated gain on the sale of the division on a reported basis.

Speaker #3: In line with the spending levels outlined in our strategic plan, we continued to make targeted investments in IT infrastructure during the fourth quarter. These planned and essential initiatives are designed to simplify operations, strengthen resiliency, and deliver long-term efficiency gains for both our clients and shareholders.

Speaker #3: As a result, we closed the year with an adjusted efficiency ratio of 75.2%, aligned with our guidance. The bank's divestitures of assets under administration from the full-service and discount brokerage division earlier in the fiscal year contributed to lower non-interest expenses through reduced headcount and broker commissions, while also driving higher other income from the associated gain on the sale of the division on a reported basis.

Speaker #3: Our capital and liquidity positions remain consistently strong throughout the year, reinforcing the bank's financial resilience and ability to navigate the current macroeconomic environment. This solid foundation provides the stability and flexibility required to support growth while staying firmly focused on executing our strategic priorities.

Éric Provost: Our capital and liquidity positions remained consistently strong throughout the year, reinforcing the bank's financial resilience and ability to navigate the current macroeconomic environment. This solid foundation provides the stability and flexibility required to support growth while staying firmly focused on executing our strategic priorities. Throughout the year, we have achieved steady progress in strengthening our portfolio by increasing the proportion of commercial loans from 47% to 50%. Notably, commercial loan balances grew by 2% on a quarter-over-quarter basis and by 8% year over year. This strategic shift in our business mix contributed to an improvement in our net interest margin, which rose from 1.79% in the prior year to 1.83% in 2025. Turning to the composition of our commercial growth, our key specialization delivered strong results. Inventory financing closed at CAD 4.2 billion, making an impressive 12% year-over-year increase.

Our capital and liquidity positions remained consistently strong throughout the year, reinforcing the bank's financial resilience and ability to navigate the current macroeconomic environment. This solid foundation provides the stability and flexibility required to support growth while staying firmly focused on executing our strategic priorities. Throughout the year, we have achieved steady progress in strengthening our portfolio by increasing the proportion of commercial loans from 47% to 50%. Notably, commercial loan balances grew by 2% on a quarter-over-quarter basis and by 8% year over year. This strategic shift in our business mix contributed to an improvement in our net interest margin, which rose from 1.79% in the prior year to 1.83% in 2025. Turning to the composition of our commercial growth, our key specialization delivered strong results. Inventory financing closed at CAD 4.2 billion, making an impressive 12% year-over-year increase.

Speaker #3: Throughout the year, we have achieved steady progress in strengthening our portfolio by increasing the proportion of commercial loans from 47% to 50%. Notably, commercial loan balances grew by 2% on a quarter-over-quarter basis and by 8% year over year.

Speaker #3: This strategic shift in our business mix contributed to an improvement in our net interest margin, which rose from 1.79% in the prior year to 1.83% in 2025.

Speaker #3: Turning to the composition of our commercial growth, our key specialization delivered strong results. Inventory financing closed at $4.2 billion, making an impressive 12% year-over-year increase.

Speaker #3: This performance was supported by an expansion of our dealer base of more than 3% and continued diversification into new segments—areas where we see meaningful opportunities for further growth.

Éric Provost: This performance was supported by an expansion of our dealer base of more than 3% and continued diversification into new segments, areas where we see meaningful opportunities for further growth. In Commercial Real Estate, activities started the year slowly, but interest rate reductions later in the year resulted in a notable improvement, particularly in rental construction. This momentum allowed us to expand our unfunded pipeline by 13% and grow our loan book by 11% year-over-year. On the personal banking front, our continued engagement with customers allowed us to maintain a relatively stable deposit base within the retail segment while simultaneously building positive momentum in broker-sourced deposits. The agreements we announced earlier this week are aligned with the acceleration of our commercial specialization and the partnership strategy we had announced as part of our strategic plan. In recent years, we have assessed multiple approaches for our retail and SME banking services.

This performance was supported by an expansion of our dealer base of more than 3% and continued diversification into new segments, areas where we see meaningful opportunities for further growth. In Commercial Real Estate, activities started the year slowly, but interest rate reductions later in the year resulted in a notable improvement, particularly in rental construction. This momentum allowed us to expand our unfunded pipeline by 13% and grow our loan book by 11% year-over-year. On the personal banking front, our continued engagement with customers allowed us to maintain a relatively stable deposit base within the retail segment while simultaneously building positive momentum in broker-sourced deposits. The agreements we announced earlier this week are aligned with the acceleration of our commercial specialization and the partnership strategy we had announced as part of our strategic plan. In recent years, we have assessed multiple approaches for our retail and SME banking services.

Speaker #3: In commercial real estate, activities started the year slowly, but interest rate reductions later in the year resulted in a notable improvement, particularly in rental construction.

Speaker #3: This momentum allowed us to expand our unfunded pipeline by 13% and grow our loan book by 11% year over year. On the personal banking front, our continued engagement with customers allowed us to maintain a relatively stable deposit base within the retail segment while simultaneously building positive momentum in broker-sourced deposits.

Speaker #3: The agreements we announced earlier this week are aligned with the acceleration of our commercial specialization and the partnership strategy we had announced as part of our strategic plan.

Speaker #3: In recent years, we have assessed multiple approaches for our retail and SME banking services. However, the substantial investments needed to sustain a competitive position in the Canadian banking landscape, coupled with the evolving regulatory requirements and rising customer expectations, have made it increasingly difficult to compete effectively.

Éric Provost: However, the substantial investments needed to sustain a competitive position in the Canadian banking landscape, coupled with the evolving regulatory requirements and rising customer expectations, have made it increasingly difficult to compete effectively. Joining forces with Fairstone Bank of Canada will allow us to grow our specialized commercial business even further while maintaining our brand identity and head office in Montreal, where we were founded over 175 years ago. Partnering with National Bank of Canada, a leading Quebec-based institution, will provide our customers with access to a broader suite of services and enhance modern technology. The press release regarding this announcement is available in the news release section of our website and includes detailed information. As the special shareholder meeting to vote on these agreements is scheduled for Q1 2026, the proxy circular will be published in early January. With that, I'll turn it over to Yvan.

However, the substantial investments needed to sustain a competitive position in the Canadian banking landscape, coupled with the evolving regulatory requirements and rising customer expectations, have made it increasingly difficult to compete effectively. Joining forces with Fairstone Bank of Canada will allow us to grow our specialized commercial business even further while maintaining our brand identity and head office in Montreal, where we were founded over 175 years ago. Partnering with National Bank of Canada, a leading Quebec-based institution, will provide our customers with access to a broader suite of services and enhance modern technology. The press release regarding this announcement is available in the news release section of our website and includes detailed information. As the special shareholder meeting to vote on these agreements is scheduled for Q1 2026, the proxy circular will be published in early January. With that, I'll turn it over to Yvan.

Speaker #3: Joining forces with Fairstone Bank will allow us to grow our specialized commercial business even further while maintaining our brand identity and head office in Montreal, where we were founded over 175 years ago.

Speaker #3: Partnering with National Bank, a leading Quebec-based institution, will provide our customers with access to a broader suite of services and enhance modern technology. The press release regarding this announcement is available in the news releases section of our website and includes detailed information.

Speaker #3: As the special shareholder meeting to vote on these agreements is scheduled for the first quarter of 2026, the proxy circular will be published in early January.

Speaker #3: With that, I'll turn it over to Yvan.

Speaker #1: Merci, Eric, et bonjour à tous. I would like to begin by turning to slide 6, which highlights the bank's financial performance for 2025. Total reported revenue for the year was $983,700, down 3% compared to last year.

Yvan Deschamps: Merci, Éric, et bonjour à tous. I would like to begin by turning to slide six, which highlights the bank's financial performance for 2025. Total reported revenue for the year was CAD 983.7 million, down 3% compared to last year. On a reported basis, net income and diluted EPS were CAD 139.9 million and CAD 2.85, respectively. On an adjusted basis, the bank generated net income of CAD 147.2 million in fiscal 2025, or CAD 3 per share. Adjusting items after taxes include restructuring and other impairment charges of CAD 8 million and a profit on sale of assets under administration of CAD 0.6 million. Additional details are available on slide 21 and in the 2025 annual report. The remainder of my comments will be on an adjusted basis and focus on Q4.

Speaker #1: On a reported basis, net income in diluted EPS was $139.9 million and $2.85, respectively. On an adjusted basis, the bank generated net income of $147.2 million in fiscal 2025, or $3 per share.

Speaker #1: Adjusting items after taxes include restructuring and other impairment charges of $8 million, and a profit on the sale of assets under administration of $0.6 million.

Speaker #1: Additional details are available on slide 21 and in the 2025 Annual Report. The remainder of my comments will be on an adjusted basis and focus on the fourth quarter.

Speaker #1: Total revenue, as displayed on slide 7, was $244.7 million, up 3% year over year, mainly from higher net interest income. This growth was driven by a favorable business mix and an increase in average earning assets.

Yvan Deschamps: Total revenue, as displayed on slide seven, was CAD 244.7 million, up 3% year-over-year, mainly from higher net interest income, driven by a favorable business mix and the growth of average earning assets. Diluted EPS of CAD 0.73 was down 18% year-over-year and down 6% quarter-over-quarter. Net income of CAD 34.2 million was down by 16% compared to last year and down 14% compared to last quarter. The bank's efficiency ratio increased by 60 basis points compared to last year but declined by 10 basis points compared to last quarter. The increase year-over-year reflects our ongoing investments in strategic priorities. Our ROE for the fourth quarter stood at 5%, down by 40 basis points from last quarter. Slide eight displays net interest income up by CAD 8.8 million, or 5% year-over-year, mainly driven by favorable shifts in the bank's business business mix, notably with respect to the commercial loan mix.

Total revenue, as displayed on slide seven, was CAD 244.7 million, up 3% year-over-year, mainly from higher net interest income, driven by a favorable business mix and the growth of average earning assets. Diluted EPS of CAD 0.73 was down 18% year-over-year and down 6% quarter-over-quarter. Net income of CAD 34.2 million was down by 16% compared to last year and down 14% compared to last quarter. The bank's efficiency ratio increased by 60 basis points compared to last year but declined by 10 basis points compared to last quarter. The increase year-over-year reflects our ongoing investments in strategic priorities. Our ROE for the fourth quarter stood at 5%, down by 40 basis points from last quarter. Slide eight displays net interest income up by CAD 8.8 million, or 5% year-over-year, mainly driven by favorable shifts in the bank's business business mix, notably with respect to the commercial loan mix.

Speaker #1: Diluted EPS of 73 cents was down 18% year over year and down 6% quarter over quarter. Net income of $34.2 million was down by 16% compared to last year and down 14% compared to last quarter.

Speaker #1: The bank's efficiency ratio increased by 60 basis points compared to last year but declined by 10 basis points compared to last quarter. The increase year over year reflects our ongoing investments in strategic priorities.

Speaker #1: Our ROE for the fourth quarter stood at 5%, down by 40 basis points from last quarter. Slide 8 displays net interest income up by $8.8 million, or 5% year over year.

Speaker #1: Mainly driven by favorable shifts in the bank's business mix. Notably, with respect to the commercial loan mix, on a sequential basis, net interest income was down by $3.2 million, or 2%, reflecting a seasonal decline in average inventory financing loan volumes during the quarter.

Yvan Deschamps: On a sequential basis, net interest income was down by CAD 3.2 million, or 2%, reflecting a seasonal decline in average inventory financing loan volumes during the quarter. Early signs of the build-up season appeared late in Q4, while real estate growth partially offset residential mortgage headwinds. Our net interest margin was up by 2 basis points year-over-year and down 3 basis points sequentially at 1.79%, essentially for the same reasons. Slide nine highlights the bank's funding position. We manage our funding in line with our loan book. On a quarterly basis, total funding was down by CAD 100 million. Lower wholesale deposits largely contributed to this decrease due to the maturity of a CAD 340 million Senior Deposit Note. The CAD 400 million increase in deposits sourced from the advisors and brokers channel was offset by a reduction in partnership deposits.

On a sequential basis, net interest income was down by CAD 3.2 million, or 2%, reflecting a seasonal decline in average inventory financing loan volumes during the quarter. Early signs of the build-up season appeared late in Q4, while real estate growth partially offset residential mortgage headwinds. Our net interest margin was up by 2 basis points year-over-year and down 3 basis points sequentially at 1.79%, essentially for the same reasons. Slide nine highlights the bank's funding position. We manage our funding in line with our loan book. On a quarterly basis, total funding was down by CAD 100 million. Lower wholesale deposits largely contributed to this decrease due to the maturity of a CAD 340 million Senior Deposit Note. The CAD 400 million increase in deposits sourced from the advisors and brokers channel was offset by a reduction in partnership deposits.

Speaker #1: Early signs of the build-up season appeared late in Q4, while real estate growth partially offset residential mortgage headwinds. Our net interest margin was up by 2 basis points year over year and down 3 basis points sequentially, at 1.79%, essentially for the same reasons.

Speaker #1: Slide 9 highlights the bank's funding position. We manage our funding in line with our loan book. On a quarterly basis, total funding was down by $100 million.

Speaker #1: Lower wholesale deposits, largely contributed to this decrease, due to the maturity of a $340 million senior deposit note. The $400 million increase in deposits sourced from the advisors and brokers channel was offset by a reduction in partnership deposits.

Speaker #1: Cost-efficient long-term debt related to securitization activities increased by $200 million over the quarter. The bank maintained a healthy liquidity coverage ratio, remaining at the high end of the industry.

Yvan Deschamps: Cost-efficient long-term debt related to securitization activities increased by CAD 200 million over the quarter. The bank maintained a healthy Liquidity Coverage Ratio, remaining at the high end of the industry. Slide 10 presents other income of CAD 62.1 million, which was 1% lower compared to last year and 2% higher compared to last quarter. The quarterly increase in other income is driven primarily by higher lending fees and reflects the stronger momentum in commercial real estate activity towards the end of the fourth quarter. Slide 11 shows non-interest expenses of CAD 185.1 million, up 4% compared to last year, mainly due to higher salaries and employee benefits, together with higher technology costs, as the bank pursues investments in infrastructure and strategic objectives. On a sequential basis, non-interest expenses were down 1%, primarily due to lower employee benefits costs.

Cost-efficient long-term debt related to securitization activities increased by CAD 200 million over the quarter. The bank maintained a healthy Liquidity Coverage Ratio, remaining at the high end of the industry. Slide 10 presents other income of CAD 62.1 million, which was 1% lower compared to last year and 2% higher compared to last quarter. The quarterly increase in other income is driven primarily by higher lending fees and reflects the stronger momentum in commercial real estate activity towards the end of the fourth quarter. Slide 11 shows non-interest expenses of CAD 185.1 million, up 4% compared to last year, mainly due to higher salaries and employee benefits, together with higher technology costs, as the bank pursues investments in infrastructure and strategic objectives. On a sequential basis, non-interest expenses were down 1%, primarily due to lower employee benefits costs.

Speaker #1: Slide 10 presents other income of $62.1 million, which was 1% lower compared to last year and 2% higher compared to last quarter. The quarterly increase in other income is driven primarily by higher lending fees and reflects the stronger momentum in commercial real estate activity towards the end of the fourth quarter.

Speaker #1: Slide 11 shows non-interest expenses of $185.1 million, up 4% compared to last year, mainly due to higher salaries and employee benefits, together with higher technology costs, as the bank pursues investments in infrastructure and strategic objectives.

Speaker #1: On a sequential basis, non-interest expenses were down 1%, primarily due to lower employee benefits costs. On slide 12, you will observe that our CET1 ratio remained stable at 11.3%.

Yvan Deschamps: On slide 12, you will observe that our CET1 ratio remains stable at 11.3%. We are maintaining a solid capital position, and we are well positioned to redeploy capital. Slide 13 highlights our commercial loan portfolio, which was up CAD 1.3 billion, or 8% year-over-year, and up CAD 400 million, or 2% on a sequential basis, both of which were mainly driven by the growth of commercial real estate pipeline. Slide 14 provides details of our inventory financing portfolio. This quarter, utilization rates were 41%, remaining below historical averages, normally in the high 40s. Slide 15 illustrates that most of our commercial real estate portfolio is focused on multi-residential housing, with our exposure to the office segment at around 4% of our commercial loan portfolio. As noted in previous quarters, the bulk of our portfolio consists of multi-tenant properties with minimal exposure to single-tenant buildings.

On slide 12, you will observe that our CET1 ratio remains stable at 11.3%. We are maintaining a solid capital position, and we are well positioned to redeploy capital. Slide 13 highlights our commercial loan portfolio, which was up CAD 1.3 billion, or 8% year-over-year, and up CAD 400 million, or 2% on a sequential basis, both of which were mainly driven by the growth of commercial real estate pipeline. Slide 14 provides details of our inventory financing portfolio. This quarter, utilization rates were 41%, remaining below historical averages, normally in the high 40s. Slide 15 illustrates that most of our commercial real estate portfolio is focused on multi-residential housing, with our exposure to the office segment at around 4% of our commercial loan portfolio. As noted in previous quarters, the bulk of our portfolio consists of multi-tenant properties with minimal exposure to single-tenant buildings.

Speaker #1: We are maintaining a solid capital position, and we are well positioned to redeploy capital. Slide 13 highlights our commercial loan portfolio, which was up $1.3 billion, or 8% year over year, and up $400 million, or 2% on a sequential basis.

Speaker #1: Both of which were mainly driven by the growth of the commercial real estate pipeline. Slide 14 provides details of our inventory financing portfolio. This quarter, utilization rates were 41%, remaining below historical averages, which are normally in the high 40s.

Speaker #1: Slide 15 illustrates that most of our commercial real estate portfolio is focused on multi-residential housing, with our exposure to the office segment at around 4% of our commercial loan portfolio.

Speaker #1: As noted in previous quarters, the bulk of our portfolio consists of multi-tenant properties, with minimal exposure to single-tenant buildings. Slide 16 presents the bank's residential mortgage portfolio. Residential mortgage loans were down 2% year-over-year and down 1% on a sequential basis.

Yvan Deschamps: Slide 16 presents the bank's residential mortgage portfolio. Residential mortgage loans were down 2% year-over-year and down 1% on a sequential basis. We adhere to cautious underwriting standards and are confident in the quality of our portfolio. This is reflected in our 63% proportion of insured mortgages and a low loan-to-value ratio of 50% on the uninsured portion. Allowances for credit losses on slide 17 total CAD 189 million, down CAD 15 million compared to last year and CAD 1.1 million compared to last quarter, mainly due to lower allowances on performing loans, partly offset by an increase in allowances on impaired loans, notably commercial loans. Turning to slide 18, the provisions for credit losses were CAD 18 million, an increase of CAD 7.6 million from a year ago, impacted by higher provisions on impaired loans, partly offset by higher releases on performing loans.

Slide 16 presents the bank's residential mortgage portfolio. Residential mortgage loans were down 2% year-over-year and down 1% on a sequential basis. We adhere to cautious underwriting standards and are confident in the quality of our portfolio. This is reflected in our 63% proportion of insured mortgages and a low loan-to-value ratio of 50% on the uninsured portion. Allowances for credit losses on slide 17 total CAD 189 million, down CAD 15 million compared to last year and CAD 1.1 million compared to last quarter, mainly due to lower allowances on performing loans, partly offset by an increase in allowances on impaired loans, notably commercial loans. Turning to slide 18, the provisions for credit losses were CAD 18 million, an increase of CAD 7.6 million from a year ago, impacted by higher provisions on impaired loans, partly offset by higher releases on performing loans.

Speaker #1: We adhere to cautious underwriting standards and have confidence in the quality of our portfolio. This was reflected in our 63% proportion of insured mortgages and a low loan-to-value ratio of 50% on the uninsured portion.

Speaker #1: Allowances for credit losses on slide 17 totaled $189 million, down $15 million compared to last year, and $1.1 million compared to last quarter. This decrease was mainly due to lower allowances on performing loans, partly offset by an increase in allowances on impaired loans, notably commercial loans.

Speaker #1: Turning to slide 18, the provisions for credit losses were $18 million, an increase of $7.6 million from a year ago. This was impacted by higher provisions on impaired loans, partly offset by higher releases on performing loans.

Speaker #1: Sequentially, PCLs were up $6.9 million, mainly from higher provisions on impaired commercial loans. As a percentage of average loans and acceptances, PCLs increased by 8 basis points, year over year and quarter over quarter, to 20 basis points.

Yvan Deschamps: Sequentially, PCLs were up CAD 6.9 million, mainly from higher provisions on impaired commercial loans. As a percentage of average loans and acceptances, PCLs increased by 8 basis points year-over-year and quarter-over-quarter to 20 basis points. Slide 19 provides an overview of impaired loans. On a year-over-year basis, gross impaired loans increased by CAD 47.1 million, or by CAD 6.5 million sequentially. Thanks to our prudent underwriting standards and the strong credit quality of our portfolio, about 95% of which is collateralized, we're able to manage credit migration effectively with minimal impact on our ACL and PCL outcomes. We remain committed to a prudent and disciplined approach to risk management. I will now turn the call back to the operator.

Sequentially, PCLs were up CAD 6.9 million, mainly from higher provisions on impaired commercial loans. As a percentage of average loans and acceptances, PCLs increased by 8 basis points year-over-year and quarter-over-quarter to 20 basis points. Slide 19 provides an overview of impaired loans. On a year-over-year basis, gross impaired loans increased by CAD 47.1 million, or by CAD 6.5 million sequentially. Thanks to our prudent underwriting standards and the strong credit quality of our portfolio, about 95% of which is collateralized, we're able to manage credit migration effectively with minimal impact on our ACL and PCL outcomes. We remain committed to a prudent and disciplined approach to risk management. I will now turn the call back to the operator.

Speaker #1: Slide 19 provides an overview of impaired loans. On a year-over-year basis, gross impaired loans increased by $47.1 million, or by $6.5 million sequentially.

Speaker #1: Thanks to our prudent underwriting standards and the strong credit quality of our portfolio, about 95% of which is categorized, we're able to manage credit migration effectively with minimal impact on our ACL and PCL outcomes.

Speaker #1: We remain committed to a prudent and disciplined approach to risk management. I will now turn the call back to the operator.

Speaker #2: Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, if you do have any questions at this time, please press star followed by one on your touch-tone phone.

Operator: Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, if you do have any questions at this time, please press star followed by one on your touch-tone phone. You will then hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. And should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press star followed by the two. And if you're using a speakerphone, you will need to lift the handset first before pressing any keys. Thank you. Please go ahead and press star one now if you have any questions. And your first question will be from Stephen Boland at Raymond James.

Speaker #2: You will then hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Should you wish to decline the polling process, please press star followed by the two.

Speaker #2: And if you're using a speakerphone, you will need to lift the handset first before pressing any keys. Thank you. Please go ahead and press *1 now if you have any questions.

Speaker #2: And your first question will be from Steven Boland at Raymond James.

Speaker #3: Good morning, everybody. Maybe Eric, if you could just talk about the evolution of the transaction. We all know that you went through a formal kind of process a couple of years ago before you took over.

Stephen Boland: Good morning, everybody. Maybe, Éric, if you could just talk about the evolution of the transaction. We all know you went through a formal kind of process a couple of years ago before you took over. I'm just wondering how this transaction started and got to this point.

Speaker #3: I'm just wondering how this transaction started and got to this point.

Speaker #4: Yeah, good morning, Steven. Well, actually, as per our strategic plan release in May 2024, we clearly made it a priority to seek out partnerships and to try to explore avenues for all business lines.

Éric Provost: Yeah, good morning, Stephen. Well, actually, as per our strategic plan released in May 2024, we clearly made it a priority to seek out partnership and to try to explore avenues for all business lines. And as you can see, we took actions throughout the year. But it was definitely through various interactions that we landed in terms of discussions engaging with Fairstone. And you're going to have way more details when we publish a proxy in the upcoming weeks.

Speaker #4: And as you can see, we took actions throughout the year, but it was definitely through various interactions that we landed in terms of discussions engaging with Fairstone. You're going to have way more details when we publish a proxy in the upcoming weeks.

Speaker #3: Okay, that's great. Second question, which you probably are getting a lot of: can you just talk about the dividend sustainability here until closing? Is there any thoughts of closing or shutting the, or reducing the dividend?

Stephen Boland: Okay, that's great. Second question, which you're probably getting a lot of: can you just talk about the dividend sustainability here until closing? Is there any thoughts of closing or shutting the or reducing the dividend? Is there anything in the purchase agreement about that? And just I'll add a third here, just on the same topic kind of thing. Do you expect any issues on closing the branches? I know Quebec can be very, I know they're not your regulator, but certainly the government is always protective of employment. Maybe just touch on those two things.

Speaker #3: Is there anything in the purchase agreement about that? And just I'll add a third here just on the same topic kind of thing. Do you expect any issues on closing the branches?

Speaker #3: I know Quebec can be very... I know they're not your regulator, but certainly the government is always protective of employment. Maybe just touch on those two things.

Speaker #5: Okay, thank you, Steven. And thank you for raising the question on dividends. We also received a lot of questions on it. So I'll answer that portion and Eric will step in for your last question.

Yvan Deschamps: Okay, thank you, Stephen. Thank you for raising the question on dividend. We also did receive a lot of questions on it. So I'll answer that portion, and Éric will step in for your last question. So on the dividend side, as you see this morning, we declared the CAD 0.47 dividend on the common shares. So there are no restrictions on paying dividend in the agreement. The only restriction is that we're not allowed to increase the dividend going forward.

Speaker #5: So on the dividend side, as you see this morning, we declared a $0.47 dividend on the common shares. So there are no restrictions on paying dividends in the agreement.

Speaker #5: The only restriction is that we're not allowed to increase the dividend going forward.

Speaker #5: forward. And

Speaker #4: And Steven, I'll take the branches and the employees. This is the artist's part of the decision we took because it impacts colleagues and people that have been working with us for some time, a very long time.

Éric Provost: Steven, I'll take the branches and the employees. This is the hardest part of the decision we took because it impacts colleagues and people that have been working with us for some time, a very long time. So in terms of branches like this, this is physical presence. The fact that we're going to National Bank. They have an extended network across the province, which we believe will be well received in terms of point of service for our customers. In terms of employment, we announced the fact that National Bank has offered a post-transition channel to actually prioritize positions and opportunities for the employees that will be impacted and terminated by this announcement. So I feel good about our approach towards the regulatory approvals, and we're confident we're going to get the right levels of support.

Speaker #4: So in terms of branches like this, this is physical presence. The fact that we're going to National Bank, they have an extended network across the province, which we believe will be well received in terms of point of service for our customers.

Speaker #4: And in terms of employment, we announced that National Bank has offered a post-transition channel to actually prioritize posting and opportunities for the employees that will be impacted and terminated by this announcement.

Speaker #4: So I feel good about our approach toward the regulatory approvals, and we're confident we're going to get the right levels of.

Speaker #4: support. Appreciate that.

Stephen Boland: Appreciate that. I'll pass the line.

Speaker #3: I'll pass the line.

Speaker #4: Thank

Speaker #4: you. Ladies and

Éric Provost: Thank you.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, it is star one if you have any questions. We'll go next to Sohrab Movahedi at BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Gentlemen, as a reminder, it is star one if you have any questions. We'll go next to Saurabh Ambeault at BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: Thank you. I just wanted to confirm that you intend to continue with your investment agenda here, Eric and Yvonne. And to the extent that you continue to make the investments, if you could kind of, I suppose, break it down as to how much of the investments today have been more in favor of the commercial franchise.

Sohrab Movahedi: Thank you. I just wanted to confirm that you intend to continue with your investment agenda here, Éric and Yvan. To the extent that you continue to make the investments, if you could kind of, I suppose, portion it out as to how much of investments to date have been more in favor of the commercial franchise as opposed to the retail and SME, and what the split may look like on a go-forward basis as well.

Speaker #6: As opposed to the retail and SME, what the split may look like on a go-forward basis as well.

Speaker #5: Yeah, it's a great question, Saurabh. Our number one goal is to execute on conversions and get to closing, so the migration towards National Bank will definitely become our priority.

Éric Provost: Yeah, it's a great question, Sohrab. Our number one goal is to execute on conversion, getting to closing. The migration towards National Bank will become definitely our priority. There's a portion that's going to go there. Yes, we've been working throughout the last year and a half on improving foundational and making sure that we create the right resiliency and redundancy. Part of it is focused and will be focused towards keeping the momentum towards our specialized group. It's going to be really a split, but big focus will be on conversion.

Speaker #5: So there's a portion that's going to go there. And yes, we've been working throughout the last year and a half on improving foundational aspects and making sure that we create the right resiliency and redundancy. Part of it is focused and will be focused on keeping the momentum towards our specialized group.

Speaker #5: So, it's going to be really a split, but the big focus will be on conversion.

Speaker #6: Okay. And Eric, as obviously, I mean, you're in the midst of something and we'll learn more about the details when the proxy becomes available, but is the bank now mostly focused on ensuring that you are more managing the downside risk, or are you still trying to deploy capital and, I don't know, grow the bank and the loan book and all?

Sohrab Movahedi: Okay. And Eric, as obviously, I mean, you're in the midst of something, and we'll learn more about the details when the proxy becomes available. But is the bank now mostly focused on ensuring that are you more managing the downside risk, or are you still trying to deploy capital and, I don't know, grow the bank, the loan book, and all of that?

Speaker #6: of that? Well,

Éric Provost: Well, yeah. So first and foremost, our customers from a retail standpoint is our focus in terms of maintaining level of services, making sure that our people are taken care of, and that we have a clear game plan towards executing our path towards National Bank migration. But for the rest, this is the future path in terms of being a specialized bank. So we're fully engaged with our customer base on a commercial front, our specialized group, inventory financing, equipment financing, and commercial real estate. The instructions to our team is definitely to continue and grow and seek out business that we want to continue into. So that continues.

Speaker #5: Yeah. So, first and foremost, our customers from a retail standpoint are our focus in terms of maintaining a level of service, making sure that our people are taken care of, and that we have a clear game plan towards executing our path towards national bank migration.

Speaker #5: But for the rest, this is the future path in terms of being a specialized bank. So we're fully engaged with our customer base on a commercial front.

Speaker #5: Our specialized group focuses on inventory financing, equipment financing, and commercial real estate. The instructions to our team are definitely to continue growing and seeking out business that we want to pursue.

Speaker #5: So that continues.

Speaker #6: Okay. So, not to belabor the point, but it is possible then, I suppose. I mean, let me ask the question a little bit directly.

Sohrab Movahedi: Okay. So not to belabor the point, but it is possible then, I suppose, I mean, let me ask the question a little bit directly. Do you have capital for SME growth, or is that more in a controlled amortization mode until the deal closes?

Speaker #6: Do you have capital for SME growth, or is that more in a controlled amortization mode until the deal?

Speaker #5: Yeah. I'll be clear, Saurabh. So we're still in business and we want to grow this bank. As mentioned by Eric, definitely, the future is on the commercial side.

Yvan Deschamps: Yeah, I'll be clear, Sohrab. So we're still in business, and we want to grow this bank. So as mentioned by Éric, definitely the future is on the commercial side. But we're going to work with National to support our customers as well. And that includes the retail and the SME. And we want to make sure that those customers are well treated, and we're going to keep them. And definitely, the focus of the bank going forward is going to be on the commercial side. But we've mentioned for the last many quarters that we have a lot of liquidity and capital, and we still have resources that we can redeploy.

Speaker #5: But we're going to work with National to support our customers as well. This includes retail and SME clients. We want to ensure that those customers are well treated, and we're going to keep them.

Speaker #5: And definitely, the focus of the bank going forward is going to be on the commercial side. But we've mentioned for the last many quarters that we have a lot of liquidity and capital, and we still have resources that we can...

Speaker #5: redeploy. Thank you.

Sohrab Movahedi: Thank you.

Speaker #4: you,

Speaker #4: you, Saurabh. And a final

Éric Provost: Thank you, Sohrab.

Operator: A final reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question or comment, it is star one. Seeing we have no other questions registered, this concludes the Q&A session. I will now hand the meeting over to Éric Provost for closing remarks.

Speaker #2: Reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question or comment, it is *star one.* Seeing we have no other questions registered, this concludes the Q&A session.

Speaker #2: I will now hand the meeting over to Eric Provost for closing remarks.

Speaker #4: Thank you. This week marks the beginning of a new chapter for Laurentian Bank. As we look to the months ahead, our priorities are clear.

Éric Provost: Thank you. This week marks the beginning of a new chapter for Laurentian Bank. As we look to the months ahead, our priorities are clear. We will work relentlessly and diligently to close the agreements with Fairstone Bank and National Bank while having our customers and employees' best interests at heart. Our priority is to ensure uninterrupted excellent service for our customers during this transition. Wishing you all a wonderful holiday season. Thank you.

Speaker #4: We will work relentlessly and diligently to close the agreements with Fairstone Bank and National Bank while having our customers' and employees' best interests at heart.

Speaker #4: Our priority is to ensure uninterrupted, excellent service for our customers during this transition. Wishing you all a wonderful holiday season. Thank you.

Speaker #4: you. Thank you,

Operator: Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for joining and ask that you please disconnect your lines. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for joining and ask that you please disconnect your lines. Thank you.

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