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Q4 2025 Regency Centers Corp Earnings Call
Operator: Greetings and welcome to Regency Centers Corporation fourth quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone wants to require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Christy McElroy. Thank you. You may begin.
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Speaker #1: I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Christy McElroy. Thank you. You may proceed.
Speaker #1: begin. Good morning and welcome
Christy McElroy: Good morning and welcome to Regency Centers Q4 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Joining me today are Lisa Palmer, President and Chief Executive Officer; Mike Mas, Chief Financial Officer; Alan Roth, East Region President and Chief Operating Officer; and Nick Wibbenmeyer, West Region President and Chief Investment Officer. As a reminder, today's discussion may contain forward-looking statements about the company's views of future business and financial performance, including forward earnings guidance and future market conditions. These are based on the current beliefs and expectations of management and are subject to various risks and uncertainties. It is possible that actual results may differ materially from those suggested by these forward-looking statements we may make.
Christy McElroy: Good morning and welcome to Regency Centers Q4 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Joining me today are Lisa Palmer, President and Chief Executive Officer; Mike Mas, Chief Financial Officer; Alan Roth, East Region President and Chief Operating Officer; and Nick Wibbenmeyer, West Region President and Chief Investment Officer. As a reminder, today's discussion may contain forward-looking statements about the company's views of future business and financial performance, including forward earnings guidance and future market conditions. These are based on the current beliefs and expectations of management and are subject to various risks and uncertainties. It is possible that actual results may differ materially from those suggested by these forward-looking statements we may make.
Speaker #2: To Regency Centers' fourth quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Joining me today are Lisa Palmer, President and Chief Executive Officer; Mike Mas, Chief Financial Officer; Alan Roth, East Region President and Chief Operating Officer; and Nick Wibbenmeyer, West Region President and Chief Investment Officer.
Speaker #2: As a reminder, today’s discussion may contain forward-looking statements about the company’s views of future business and financial performance, including forward earnings guidance and future market conditions.
Speaker #2: These are based on the current beliefs and expectations of management and are subject to various risks and uncertainties. It is possible that actual results may differ materially from those suggested by these forward-looking statements we may make.
Speaker #2: Factors and risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from these statements may be included in our presentation today and in our filings with the SEC.
Christy McElroy: Factors and risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from these statements may be included in our presentation today and are described in more detail in our filings with the SEC, specifically in our most recent Form 10-K and 10-Q filings. In our discussion today, we will also reference certain non-GAAP financial measures. The comparable GAAP financial measures are included in this quarter's earnings materials, which are posted on our Investor Relations website. Please note that we have also posted a presentation on our website with additional information, including disclosures related to forward earnings guidance. Our caution on forward-looking statements also applies to these presentation materials. As a reminder, given the number of participants we have on the call today, we respectfully ask that you limit your questions to one. Please rejoin the queue if you have any additional follow-up questions. Lisa?
Christy McElroy: Factors and risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from these statements may be included in our presentation today and are described in more detail in our filings with the SEC, specifically in our most recent Form 10-K and 10-Q filings. In our discussion today, we will also reference certain non-GAAP financial measures. The comparable GAAP financial measures are included in this quarter's earnings materials, which are posted on our Investor Relations website. Please note that we have also posted a presentation on our website with additional information, including disclosures related to forward earnings guidance. Our caution on forward-looking statements also applies to these presentation materials. As a reminder, given the number of participants we have on the call today, we respectfully ask that you limit your questions to one. Please rejoin the queue if you have any additional follow-up questions. Lisa?
Speaker #2: Specifically, in our most recent Form 10-K and 10-Q filings. In our discussion today, we will also reference certain non-GAAP financial measures. The comparable GAAP financial measures are included in this quarter's earnings materials, which are posted on our investor relations website.
Speaker #2: Please note that we have also posted a presentation on our website with additional information, including disclosures related to forward earnings guidance. Our caution applies to presentation materials.
Speaker #2: As a forward-looking statement, this also applies to these reminders. Given the number of participants we have on the call today, we respectfully ask that you limit your questions to one.
Speaker #2: Please rejoin the queue if you have any additional follow-up questions.
Speaker #2: Lisa?
Speaker #3: Thank you, Christy. Good morning, everyone, and
Lisa Palmer: Thank you, Christy. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I'm proud to close out another outstanding year for Regency. Our success in 2025 reflects the quality of our grocery-anchored shopping centers in strong suburban trade areas, the strength of our best-in-class operating and investments platforms, and the hard work of our exceptional team. We delivered strong same-property NOI earnings and dividend growth driven by robust operating fundamentals and disciplined accretive capital allocation. Across our portfolio, we continue to see healthy demand for our space, historically low bad debt, and continued growth in tenant sales and foot traffic, reinforcing the durability of our portfolio and the essential nature of the real estate we own. On the investments front, 2025 was another very active year for Regency, highlighted by accretive acquisitions and strong execution across our development and redevelopment programs.
Lisa Palmer: Thank you, Christy. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I'm proud to close out another outstanding year for Regency. Our success in 2025 reflects the quality of our grocery-anchored shopping centers in strong suburban trade areas, the strength of our best-in-class operating and investments platforms, and the hard work of our exceptional team. We delivered strong same-property NOI earnings and dividend growth driven by robust operating fundamentals and disciplined accretive capital allocation. Across our portfolio, we continue to see healthy demand for our space, historically low bad debt, and continued growth in tenant sales and foot traffic, reinforcing the durability of our portfolio and the essential nature of the real estate we own. On the investments front, 2025 was another very active year for Regency, highlighted by accretive acquisitions and strong execution across our development and redevelopment programs.
Speaker #3: Thank you for joining us today. I'm proud to close out another outstanding year for Regency. Our success in 2025 reflects the quality of our grocery-anchored shopping centers and strong suburban trade areas, the strength of our best-in-class operating and investment platforms, and the hard work of our exceptional team. Same-property NOI earnings and dividend growth were driven by robust operating fundamentals, and disciplined, accretive capital allocation.
Speaker #3: Across our portfolio, we continue to see healthy demand for our space, historically low bad debt, and continued growth in tenant sales and foot traffic.
Speaker #3: Portfolio and the essential nature of reinforcing the durability of the real estate we own. On the investments front, 2025 was another very active year for Regency.
Speaker #3: Highlighted by accretive acquisitions and strong execution across our development and redevelopment programs, we had another excellent year growing our development pipeline, with more than $300 million of new project starts.
Lisa Palmer: We had another excellent year growing our development pipeline with more than $300 million of new project starts. Over the past 3 years, we've started more than $800 million of new projects. And importantly, that pipeline is now translating into deliveries that will contribute meaningfully to total NOI growth in 2026 and beyond, providing strong visibility into our forward growth. REGENCY's ground-up development platform continues to be a primary driver of our external growth and a key differentiator for the company. New retail development remains really difficult across the industry, and this is evidenced by historically low supply growth over the past 15 years. In that environment, REGENCY is uniquely positioned leveraging our expertise, long track record, access to low-cost capital, and longstanding tenant relationships to source and execute on opportunities to build high-quality shopping centers at meaningful spreads to market value.
Lisa Palmer: We had another excellent year growing our development pipeline with more than $300 million of new project starts. Over the past 3 years, we've started more than $800 million of new projects. And importantly, that pipeline is now translating into deliveries that will contribute meaningfully to total NOI growth in 2026 and beyond, providing strong visibility into our forward growth. REGENCY's ground-up development platform continues to be a primary driver of our external growth and a key differentiator for the company. New retail development remains really difficult across the industry, and this is evidenced by historically low supply growth over the past 15 years. In that environment, REGENCY is uniquely positioned leveraging our expertise, long track record, access to low-cost capital, and longstanding tenant relationships to source and execute on opportunities to build high-quality shopping centers at meaningful spreads to market value.
Speaker #3: Over the past three years, we've started more than $800 million of new projects. And importantly, that pipeline is now translating into deliveries that will contribute meaningfully to total NOI growth in 2026 and beyond.
Speaker #3: Providing strong visibility into our forward growth, REGENCY's ground-up development platform continues to be a primary driver of our external growth and a key differentiator for the company.
Speaker #3: New retail development remains really difficult across the industry, and this is evidenced by historically low supply growth over the past 15 years. In that environment, Regency is uniquely positioned to leverage our expertise, long track record, access to low-cost capital, and long-standing tenant relationships.
Speaker #3: To source and execute on opportunities to build high-quality shopping centers at meaningful spreads to market value. This allows us to create long-term shareholder value while amplifying our NOI growth profile.
Lisa Palmer: This allows us to create long-term shareholder value while amplifying our NOI growth profile. In closing, the broader backdrop remains favorable. Physical retail, particularly well-located grocery-anchored real estate like we own, continues to benefit from this limited new supply and a renewed appreciation among retailers for the role of stores. Strong tenant demand is driving rents and occupancy higher, and our substantial free cash flow and fortress balance sheet provide the foundation to continue investing capital accretively through the cycle. Our portfolio, development platform, balance sheet, and team together are unequaled and give us an advantaged position. I'm very proud of the results our team delivered in 2025, and we are carrying that momentum into 2026 and beyond. With that, I'll turn it over to Alan.
Lisa Palmer: This allows us to create long-term shareholder value while amplifying our NOI growth profile. In closing, the broader backdrop remains favorable. Physical retail, particularly well-located grocery-anchored real estate like we own, continues to benefit from this limited new supply and a renewed appreciation among retailers for the role of stores. Strong tenant demand is driving rents and occupancy higher, and our substantial free cash flow and fortress balance sheet provide the foundation to continue investing capital accretively through the cycle. Our portfolio, development platform, balance sheet, and team together are unequaled and give us an advantaged position. I'm very proud of the results our team delivered in 2025, and we are carrying that momentum into 2026 and beyond. With that, I'll turn it over to Alan.
Speaker #3: In closing, the broader backdrop remains favorable. Physical retail, particularly well-located grocery-anchored real estate like we own, continues to benefit from this limited new supply and a renewed appreciation among retailers for the role of stores.
Speaker #3: Strong tenant demand is driving rents and occupancy higher, and our substantial free cash flow and fortress balance sheet provide the foundation to continue investing capital accretively through the cycle.
Speaker #3: Our portfolio, development platform, balance sheet, and team together are unequaled and give us an advantaged position. I'm very proud of the results our team delivered in 2025, and we are carrying that momentum into 2026 and beyond.
Speaker #3: Without further ado, I'll turn it over to Christy McElroy.
Speaker #3: Alan. Thank you,
Alan Roth: Thank you, Lisa, and good morning, everyone. 2025 was one of the strongest operational years we've ever experienced as a company. We achieved remarkable Same-Property NOI growth of 5.3%, supported by substantial base rent contribution, including meaningful occupancy commencement, and redevelopment impact. Impressively, our average rent commencement rate for the portfolio increased 150 basis points year over year, a testament to our team's ability to accelerate the rent commencement of tenants within our SNO pipeline and to successfully deliver redevelopment projects. Tenant demand remains strong in nearly every category and across our portfolio, spanning both anchor and shop space. Shop momentum was especially impressive in the fourth quarter as we leased our largest percentage of vacant shop GLA in more than five years, an increase in same-property shop occupancy by 40 basis points, reaching yet another new record for us of 94.2% leased at year-end.
Alan Roth: Thank you, Lisa, and good morning, everyone. 2025 was one of the strongest operational years we've ever experienced as a company. We achieved remarkable Same-Property NOI growth of 5.3%, supported by substantial base rent contribution, including meaningful occupancy commencement, and redevelopment impact. Impressively, our average rent commencement rate for the portfolio increased 150 basis points year over year, a testament to our team's ability to accelerate the rent commencement of tenants within our SNO pipeline and to successfully deliver redevelopment projects. Tenant demand remains strong in nearly every category and across our portfolio, spanning both anchor and shop space. Shop momentum was especially impressive in the fourth quarter as we leased our largest percentage of vacant shop GLA in more than five years, an increase in same-property shop occupancy by 40 basis points, reaching yet another new record for us of 94.2% leased at year-end.
Speaker #4: Lisa, and good morning, everyone. 2025 was one of the strongest operational years we’ve ever experienced as a company. We achieved remarkable same-property NOI growth of 5.3%, supported by substantial base rent contribution, including meaningful occupancy commencement and redevelopment impact.
Speaker #4: Impressively, our average percent commenced rate for the portfolio increased 150 basis points year over year—a testament to our team's ability to accelerate the rent commencement of tenants within our SNO pipeline and to successfully deliver redevelopment projects.
Speaker #4: Tenant demand remains strong in nearly every category, and across our portfolio, spanning both anchor and shop space. Shop momentum was especially impressive in the fourth quarter, as we leased more shop GLA than we have in more than five years.
Speaker #4: An increased same-property shop occupancy by 40 basis points, reaching yet another new record for our largest percentage of vacant leased at year-end. Our grocery leasing activity in the quarter was significant.
Alan Roth: Our grocery leasing activity in the quarter was significant, signing leases with Whole Foods, Sprouts, and Trader Joe's, among others. Beyond groceries, we're continuing to see meaningful engagement and momentum from other anchor tenants such as TJX, Nordstrom Rack, Ulta, Ross, Burlington, and Williams-Sonoma, to name a few. Anchor leasing is one of our greatest opportunities to drive our portfolio occupancy beyond prior peak levels, and we are encouraged by the quantity and quality of the prospects for our high-quality anchor space. Our SNO pipeline at year-end was approximately $45 million of incremental base rent. We made substantial progress commencing tenants in Q4 while simultaneously backfilling the pipeline with strong new deals. In addition, we are also seeing a continued trend of tenants inquiring about and signing leases on currently occupied space.
Alan Roth: Our grocery leasing activity in the quarter was significant, signing leases with Whole Foods, Sprouts, and Trader Joe's, among others. Beyond groceries, we're continuing to see meaningful engagement and momentum from other anchor tenants such as TJX, Nordstrom Rack, Ulta, Ross, Burlington, and Williams-Sonoma, to name a few. Anchor leasing is one of our greatest opportunities to drive our portfolio occupancy beyond prior peak levels, and we are encouraged by the quantity and quality of the prospects for our high-quality anchor space. Our SNO pipeline at year-end was approximately $45 million of incremental base rent. We made substantial progress commencing tenants in Q4 while simultaneously backfilling the pipeline with strong new deals. In addition, we are also seeing a continued trend of tenants inquiring about and signing leases on currently occupied space.
Speaker #4: Opportunities to drive our portfolio occupancy beyond prior peak levels exist, and we are encouraged by the quantity and quality of the prospects for our high-quality anchor space.
Speaker #4: Our SNO pipeline at year-end was approximately $45 million of incremental base progress, commencing tenants in Q4, while simultaneously backfilling the pipeline with strong new deals.
Speaker #4: In addition, we are also seeing a continued trend of rent. We made substantial leases on currently occupied tenants inquiring about and signing space. This is a testament to the desirability of our centers and the lack of available quality retail supply in our markets.
Alan Roth: This is a testament to the desirability of our centers and the lack of available quality retail supply in our markets. Our rent growth also continues to benefit as high-quality retail space has become more limited. We achieved impressive cash rent spreads of 12% in Q4, including renewal spreads at a record 13% in the quarter. GAAP rent spreads of 25% in Q4 also marked an all-time high, underscoring the depth of embedded mark-to-market in our portfolio combined with the benefit of annual rent escalators. Notably, more than 95% of negotiated leasing activity in 2025 included annual steps, further strengthening future rent growth. In closing, we are excited about the significant momentum we see into 2026. Demand for our space is robust, with operating fundamentals as strong as they've ever been.
Alan Roth: This is a testament to the desirability of our centers and the lack of available quality retail supply in our markets. Our rent growth also continues to benefit as high-quality retail space has become more limited. We achieved impressive cash rent spreads of 12% in Q4, including renewal spreads at a record 13% in the quarter. GAAP rent spreads of 25% in Q4 also marked an all-time high, underscoring the depth of embedded mark-to-market in our portfolio combined with the benefit of annual rent escalators. Notably, more than 95% of negotiated leasing activity in 2025 included annual steps, further strengthening future rent growth. In closing, we are excited about the significant momentum we see into 2026. Demand for our space is robust, with operating fundamentals as strong as they've ever been.
Speaker #4: Our rent growth also continues to benefit as high-quality retail space has become more limited. We achieved impressive cash rent spreads of 12% in Q4, including 13% in the quarter.
Speaker #4: Gap rent spreads of 25% in Q4 also marked an all-time high, underscoring the depth of embedded mark-to-market in our portfolio, combined with the benefit of annual rent escalators.
Speaker #4: Notably, more than 95% of negotiated leasing activity in 2025 included annual steps, further strengthening future rent growth. In closing, we are excited about the significant momentum we see into 2026.
Speaker #4: Demand for our space is robust, with operating fundamentals as strong as they've ever been. Our leasing team remains very active, and our tenants are having tremendous success, empowering us to remain aggressive on rent growth and to drive occupancy higher.
Alan Roth: Our leasing team remains very active, and our tenants are having tremendous success, empowering us to remain aggressive on rent growth and to drive occupancy higher. With that, I'll hand it over to Nick.
Alan Roth: Our leasing team remains very active, and our tenants are having tremendous success, empowering us to remain aggressive on rent growth and to drive occupancy higher. With that, I'll hand it over to Nick.
Speaker #4: With that, I'll hand
Speaker #4: it over to Nick. Thank
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Thank you, Alan, and good morning, everyone. 2025 was a tremendous year for our investments platform, both in terms of volume and quality. We deployed more than $825 million into accretive investments, including more than $500 million of high-quality acquisitions and $300 million in development and redevelopment projects in top markets around the country. In 2025, we started 24 development and redevelopment projects across 16 markets, with the majority of invested capital into ground-up developments. These projects are creating real value for our shareholders, with ground-up development returns north of 7% at meaningful spreads to market cap rates. In the fourth quarter alone, we started more than $90 million of ground-up projects, including Oak Valley Village in Southern California, anchored by Target and Sprouts, and Lone Tree Village, a King Soopers anchored center in Denver.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Thank you, Alan, and good morning, everyone. 2025 was a tremendous year for our investments platform, both in terms of volume and quality. We deployed more than $825 million into accretive investments, including more than $500 million of high-quality acquisitions and $300 million in development and redevelopment projects in top markets around the country. In 2025, we started 24 development and redevelopment projects across 16 markets, with the majority of invested capital into ground-up developments. These projects are creating real value for our shareholders, with ground-up development returns north of 7% at meaningful spreads to market cap rates. In the fourth quarter alone, we started more than $90 million of ground-up projects, including Oak Valley Village in Southern California, anchored by Target and Sprouts, and Lone Tree Village, a King Soopers anchored center in Denver.
Speaker #5: everyone. 2025 was a you, Alan. And good morning, tremendous year for our investments platform. Both in terms of volume and quality. We deployed more than 825 million dollars into a creative investments, including more than 500 million dollars of high-quality acquisitions and 300 million dollars in development and redevelopment projects in top markets around the country.
Speaker #5: In 2025, we started 24 development and redevelopment projects across 16 markets, with the majority of invested capital going into ground-up developments. These projects are creating real value for our shareholders.
Speaker #5: With ground-up development returns north of 7% at meaningful spreads to market cap rates, in the fourth quarter alone, we started more than $90 million of ground-up projects.
Speaker #5: Including Oak Valley Village in Southern California, anchored by Target and Sprouts, and Lone Tree Village, a King Soopers-anchored center in Denver. Importantly, our team has also delivered and brought these projects online, including the completion of 13 development and redevelopment projects in the fourth quarter, totaling more than $160 million at attractive 9% blended returns.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Importantly, our team is also delivering and bringing these projects online, including the completion of 13 development and redevelopment projects in Q4, totaling more than $160 million at attractive 9% blended returns. These projects are more than 98% leased, and with many delivered ahead of schedule and several anchors opening early. Even with the high volume of completions, we are also backfilling our future pipeline. Our team continues to have great success sourcing and starting new projects, and our in-process pipeline remains strong at nearly $600 million. This includes several on track to reach 100% leased before the anchor even opens. Looking ahead, we believe we have good visibility into project starts of nearly $1 billion over the next 3 years.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Importantly, our team is also delivering and bringing these projects online, including the completion of 13 development and redevelopment projects in Q4, totaling more than $160 million at attractive 9% blended returns. These projects are more than 98% leased, and with many delivered ahead of schedule and several anchors opening early. Even with the high volume of completions, we are also backfilling our future pipeline. Our team continues to have great success sourcing and starting new projects, and our in-process pipeline remains strong at nearly $600 million. This includes several on track to reach 100% leased before the anchor even opens. Looking ahead, we believe we have good visibility into project starts of nearly $1 billion over the next 3 years.
Speaker #5: These projects are more than 98% leased, with many delivered ahead of schedule and several anchors opening early. Even with the high volume of completions, we are also backfilling our future success, sourcing and starting new projects, and our in-process pipeline remains strong at nearly $600 million.
Speaker #5: This includes several on-track to reach 100% leased before the anchor even pipeline. opens. Looking ahead, we Our team continues to have great believe we have good visibility into project starts of nearly a billion dollars over the next three years.
Speaker #5: Our success has led to even greater momentum, and our opportunity set has only grown. We have projects in the works across the country, with top grocers in strong suburban communities.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Our success has led to even greater momentum, and our opportunity set has only grown, with projects in the works across the country with top groceries in strong suburban communities. Our development platform is a distinct advantage for Regency, fueling our external growth engine. Our deep tenant relationships, access to capital, and experienced team around the country enable us to execute on projects at a time when few others can. In closing, I'm incredibly proud of our team's execution and accomplishments in 2025. It has been extremely gratifying to see our hard work come to fruition, along with excitement from our local communities and tenants as these projects come online. Our success spans across the country, from recent groundbreakings in Denver, Jacksonville, and Southern California to grand openings of H-E-B in Houston, Whole Foods in Connecticut, Publix in Atlanta, and Safeway in the Bay Area, among others.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Our success has led to even greater momentum, and our opportunity set has only grown, with projects in the works across the country with top groceries in strong suburban communities. Our development platform is a distinct advantage for Regency, fueling our external growth engine. Our deep tenant relationships, access to capital, and experienced team around the country enable us to execute on projects at a time when few others can. In closing, I'm incredibly proud of our team's execution and accomplishments in 2025. It has been extremely gratifying to see our hard work come to fruition, along with excitement from our local communities and tenants as these projects come online. Our success spans across the country, from recent groundbreakings in Denver, Jacksonville, and Southern California to grand openings of H-E-B in Houston, Whole Foods in Connecticut, Publix in Atlanta, and Safeway in the Bay Area, among others.
Speaker #5: Our development platform is a distinct advantage for Regency, fueling our external growth relationships, access to capital, and engine. Our deep tenant-experienced team around the country enables us to execute on projects at a time when few others can. Incredibly proud of our team's execution and accomplishments in 2025.
Speaker #5: It has been extremely gratifying to see our hard work come to fruition, along with excitement from our local communities and tenants as these projects come online.
Speaker #5: Across the country, from recent groundbreakings in Denver, Jacksonville, and Southern California, to grand openings of HEB in Houston, Whole Foods in Connecticut, Publix in Atlanta, and Safeway in the Bay Area, among others, our success spans. In closing, I'm...
Speaker #5: As we look ahead, our investments team is energized by compelling opportunities to allocate capital creatively, and we continue to raise our eye level on how much we can grow our project pipeline.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: As we look ahead, our investments team is energized by compelling opportunities to allocate capital accretively, and we continue to raise our eye level on how much we can grow our project pipeline. Mike?
Nick Wibbenmeyer: As we look ahead, our investments team is energized by compelling opportunities to allocate capital accretively, and we continue to raise our eye level on how much we can grow our project pipeline. Mike?
Speaker #5: Mike,
Speaker #2: Thank you,
Michael Mas: Thank you, Nick. Again, Regency delivered exceptional results in both the fourth quarter and for the full year. We achieved Nareit FFO per share growth of close to 8% and core operating earnings per share growth of nearly 7% for the full year, driven by continued strong operating fundamentals and substantial external growth from accretive, high-quality acquisitions and development projects. Same-property NOI growth finished north of 5% and was largely driven by our success growing commenced occupancy, pushing rents and recoveries higher, and experiencing historically low levels of uncollectible lease income. Turning to 2026, our guidance is consistent with the expectations we outlined on our October call, reflecting continued strong momentum across all facets of our business. I'll refer you to pages 5 and 6 in our quarterly earnings presentation for a summary of our assumptions and the primary drivers of our forward growth outlook.
Michael Mas: Thank you, Nick. Again, Regency delivered exceptional results in both the fourth quarter and for the full year. We achieved Nareit FFO per share growth of close to 8% and core operating earnings per share growth of nearly 7% for the full year, driven by continued strong operating fundamentals and substantial external growth from accretive, high-quality acquisitions and development projects. Same-property NOI growth finished north of 5% and was largely driven by our success growing commenced occupancy, pushing rents and recoveries higher, and experiencing historically low levels of uncollectible lease income. Turning to 2026, our guidance is consistent with the expectations we outlined on our October call, reflecting continued strong momentum across all facets of our business. I'll refer you to pages 5 and 6 in our quarterly earnings presentation for a summary of our assumptions and the primary drivers of our forward growth outlook.
Speaker #2: Nick. Again, Regency delivered exceptional results in both the fourth quarter and for the full year. We achieved neighborhood FFO per share growth of close to, growth of nearly 7% for the full year.
Speaker #2: Driven by continued 8% core operating earnings per share, strong operating fundamentals, and substantial external growth from accretive, high-quality acquisitions and development projects.
Speaker #2: Same property NOI growth finished north of 5% and was largely driven by our success growing commenced occupancy, pushing rents and recoveries higher, and experiencing historically low levels of uncollectable lease income.
Speaker #2: Turning to 2026, our guidance is consistent with the expectations we outlined across all facets of our business. I'll refer you to our October call, reflecting continued strong momentum—pages five and six in our quarterly earnings presentation—for a summary of our assumptions and the primary drivers of our forward growth outlook.
Speaker #2: We expect same property NOI growth in a range of three and a quarter to three and three quarters percent, which we anticipate to largely be driven by rent spreads and steps, and redevelopment deliveries.
Michael Mas: We expect Same-Property NOI growth in a range of 3.25 to 3.75%, which we anticipate to largely be driven by rent spreads, steps, and redevelopment deliveries, as well as additional contribution from the commencement of our SNO Pipeline. We are also planning for another year of Uncollectible Lease Income falling below our historical average of 50 basis points of revenues. While the cadence of Same-Property NOI growth should be largely consistent between the first and second halves of the year, we do expect our Q1 growth rate to be above our full-year guidance range, driven by a higher expense recovery rate this year versus last and an anticipated impact to other income, which can be uneven by its nature.
Michael Mas: We expect Same-Property NOI growth in a range of 3.25 to 3.75%, which we anticipate to largely be driven by rent spreads, steps, and redevelopment deliveries, as well as additional contribution from the commencement of our SNO Pipeline. We are also planning for another year of Uncollectible Lease Income falling below our historical average of 50 basis points of revenues. While the cadence of Same-Property NOI growth should be largely consistent between the first and second halves of the year, we do expect our Q1 growth rate to be above our full-year guidance range, driven by a higher expense recovery rate this year versus last and an anticipated impact to other income, which can be uneven by its nature.
Speaker #2: As well as additional contribution from the commencement of our SNO pipeline. We are also planning for another year of uncollectable lease income falling below our historical revenues.
Speaker #2: While the average of 50 basis points for the cadence of same property NOI growth should be largely consistent between the first and second halves of the year, it should be above our full-year guidance range.
Speaker #2: Expense recovery rate this year versus last, driven by a higher and an anticipated impact to other income, which can be uneven by its nature. Our Q2 growth rate is expected to be below our full-year guidance range, largely due to a tough comparison related to our annual CAM reconciliation process that we discussed last year. We do expect our Q1 growth rate to be strong.
Michael Mas: Our Q2 growth rate is expected to be below our full-year guidance range, largely due to a tough comparison related to our annual CAM reconciliation process that we discussed last year. Beyond Same-Property NOI, total NOI growth will benefit significantly from strong external growth this year, including the substantial progress we've made delivering ground-up development projects and sourcing accretive acquisitions. Our forecast for earnings also includes a 100 to 150 basis point anticipated impact from debt refinancing activity, again as discussed in October, excluding which the midpoint of our guidance would be in the mid-5% to 6% area, reflecting a continued strong fundamental backdrop. As a reminder, and consistent with past practices, we do not include speculative acquisitions in our guidance, but our team is active in the market sourcing opportunities that meet our quality and accretion requirements. We will keep you updated as transactions are contracted and closed.
Michael Mas: Our Q2 growth rate is expected to be below our full-year guidance range, largely due to a tough comparison related to our annual CAM reconciliation process that we discussed last year. Beyond Same-Property NOI, total NOI growth will benefit significantly from strong external growth this year, including the substantial progress we've made delivering ground-up development projects and sourcing accretive acquisitions. Our forecast for earnings also includes a 100 to 150 basis point anticipated impact from debt refinancing activity, again as discussed in October, excluding which the midpoint of our guidance would be in the mid-5% to 6% area, reflecting a continued strong fundamental backdrop. As a reminder, and consistent with past practices, we do not include speculative acquisitions in our guidance, but our team is active in the market sourcing opportunities that meet our quality and accretion requirements. We will keep you updated as transactions are contracted and closed.
Speaker #2: Beyond same property NOI, total NOI growth will benefit significantly from strong external growth this year, including the substantial progress we've made delivering ground-up development projects and sourcing accretive acquisitions.
Speaker #2: Our forecast for earnings also includes a 100 to 150 basis point anticipated impact from debt refinancing activity, again, as discussed in October. Excluding which, the midpoint is in the mid-five percent to six percent area, reflecting a continued strong fundamental backdrop.
Speaker #2: As a reminder, and consistent with our guidance in past practices, we do not include speculative acquisitions in our guidance. But our team is active in the market, sourcing opportunities that meet our quality and accretion requirements.
Speaker #2: We will keep you updated as transactions are contracted and closed. As Lisa and Nick described today, ground-up development remains the prioritized and most visible driver of our external growth, and our near-term deliveries and growing pipelines are evidence of our strong position in the marketplace as a developer of choice.
Michael Mas: As Lisa and Nick described today, ground-up development remains the prioritized and most visible driver of our external growth, and our near-term deliveries and growing pipelines are evidence of our strong position in the marketplace as a developer of choice. Importantly, our balance sheet and liquidity position remain a source of competitive strength, enabling us to remain opportunistic and execute on our development pursuits, acquire properties, and achieve favorable debt and refinancing terms. We have A3, A-minus credit ratings from both Moody's and S&P, leverages within our targeted range of 5 to 5.5 times, free cash flow generation is strong with no need to raise equity or sell properties to fund our investment pipeline, and we have nearly full availability on our $1.5 billion credit facility. In closing, we are looking at a future from a position of significant strength operationally, financially, and strategically.
Michael Mas: As Lisa and Nick described today, ground-up development remains the prioritized and most visible driver of our external growth, and our near-term deliveries and growing pipelines are evidence of our strong position in the marketplace as a developer of choice. Importantly, our balance sheet and liquidity position remain a source of competitive strength, enabling us to remain opportunistic and execute on our development pursuits, acquire properties, and achieve favorable debt and refinancing terms. We have A3, A-minus credit ratings from both Moody's and S&P, leverages within our targeted range of 5 to 5.5 times, free cash flow generation is strong with no need to raise equity or sell properties to fund our investment pipeline, and we have nearly full availability on our $1.5 billion credit facility. In closing, we are looking at a future from a position of significant strength operationally, financially, and strategically.
Speaker #2: Importantly, our balance sheet and liquidity position remain a source of competitive opportunistic and execute on our development pursuits. Acquire properties, and achieve favorable debt strength, enabling us to remain have A3, A-minus credit ratings from and refinancing terms.
Speaker #2: Both Moody's and S&P, leverage is within our targeted range of five to five and a half times. Free cash flow generation is strong, with no need to raise equity or sell properties to fund our investment pipeline.
Speaker #2: And we have nearly full availability on our $1.5 billion credit facility. In closing, we are looking at a future from a position of significant strength.
Speaker #2: Operationally, financially, and strategically. With that, we now welcome your questions.
Michael Mas: With that, we now welcome your questions.
Michael Mas: With that, we now welcome your questions.
Speaker #2: questions. Thank
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Speaker #3: Our first question comes from Samir Canal with Bank of America. Your line is live.
Speaker #4: Good morning, everybody. I guess, Mike, just following up on acquisitions and dispositions—I know you don't guide to those sort of targets there—but I'm curious, given where pricing is right now for grocery-anchored today.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Good morning, everybody. I guess, Mike, just following up on acquisitions and dispositions. I know you don't guide to those sort of targets there, but curious, given where pricing is, right, for grocery anchor today, I mean, how do you think sort of what are you seeing out there in the market, opportunities? I mean, you had a pretty active year for acquisitions, so just would love kind of your thoughts on kind of how the year could play out. Thanks.
Samir Khanal: Good morning, everybody. I guess, Mike, just following up on acquisitions and dispositions. I know you don't guide to those sort of targets there, but curious, given where pricing is, right, for grocery anchor today, I mean, how do you think sort of what are you seeing out there in the market, opportunities? I mean, you had a pretty active year for acquisitions, so just would love kind of your thoughts on kind of how the year could play out. Thanks.
Speaker #4: I mean, how do you think, sort of, what are you seeing out there in the market opportunities? I mean, acquisitions, so just would love, kind of, your thoughts on how the year could play out.
Speaker #4: Thanks.
Speaker #5: Yeah, Samir, good morning. This
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Yeah, Samir, good morning. This is Nick. I'll take the question and appreciate the question. Look, the reality is we are seeing demand in our sector continue to grow for a lot of good reasons. There's a lot of investors looking to invest in grocery anchored real estate at the moment. And so we are seeing a broad range of opportunities. In the 5% to 6% cap range is the range I would give you. But as we've always said, and I appreciate you reminding everyone, we don't guide acquisitions because we don't have to do them in our fundamental business plan. And so we will lean in when we can find opportunities that are equal to our quality and our growth profile, and very importantly, that we can fund accretively. And so those are the ones we're focused on.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Yeah, Samir, good morning. This is Nick. I'll take the question and appreciate the question. Look, the reality is we are seeing demand in our sector continue to grow for a lot of good reasons. There's a lot of investors looking to invest in grocery anchored real estate at the moment. And so we are seeing a broad range of opportunities. In the 5% to 6% cap range is the range I would give you. But as we've always said, and I appreciate you reminding everyone, we don't guide acquisitions because we don't have to do them in our fundamental business plan. And so we will lean in when we can find opportunities that are equal to our quality and our growth profile, and very importantly, that we can fund accretively. And so those are the ones we're focused on.
Speaker #5: This is Nick. I'll take the question, and I appreciate the question. Look, the reality is we are seeing demand in our sector continue to grow for a lot of good reasons.
Speaker #5: There's a lot of investors looking to invest in grocery-anchored real estate at the moment, and so we are seeing opportunities—a broad range of them. In the 5% to 6% cap range is the range I would give you.
Speaker #5: But as we've always said—and I appreciate you reminding everyone—we don't guide to acquisitions, because we don't have to do them in our fundamental business plan.
Speaker #5: We will lean in when we can find opportunities that are equal to our quality and our growth profile, and, very importantly, that we can fund accretively.
Speaker #5: And so those are the ones we're focused on, as you alluded to. We were very successful in that in 2025, finding over half a billion dollars of those.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: As you alluded to, we were very successful in that in 2025, finding over a half a billion dollars of those. And our team's actively pursuing opportunities around the country right now. We do not have anything under contract currently, or we would guide to that, as you're aware. And I do expect we will find some needles in the haystack out there as we continue to look throughout the country. But as we've continued to talk about, we're going to continue to focus our capital on the development program, where we're getting development yields north of 7%, and we're very excited about that opportunity set as well. And so feel really good about the development program and also confident we will find some acquisitions that meet our thresholds in 2026.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: As you alluded to, we were very successful in that in 2025, finding over a half a billion dollars of those. And our team's actively pursuing opportunities around the country right now. We do not have anything under contract currently, or we would guide to that, as you're aware. And I do expect we will find some needles in the haystack out there as we continue to look throughout the country. But as we've continued to talk about, we're going to continue to focus our capital on the development program, where we're getting development yields north of 7%, and we're very excited about that opportunity set as well. And so feel really good about the development program and also confident we will find some acquisitions that meet our thresholds in 2026.
Speaker #5: And our team's actively pursuing opportunities around the country right now. We do not have anything under contract currently, or we would guide to that, as you're aware.
Speaker #5: And I do expect we will find some needles in the haystack out there as we continue to look throughout the country. But as we've continued to talk about, we're going to continue to focus our capital on the development program, where we're getting development yields north of 7%, and we're very excited about that opportunity set as well.
Speaker #5: And so, we feel really good about the development program, and also confident we will find some acquisitions that meet our thresholds.
Speaker #5: 2026.
Speaker #6: If I may, I just want to say I'm really sorry—Christy was ready to move on to the next question. It's not an either/or, either. I think that's important, and that's what it has been.
Lisa Palmer: If I may, I just want to—really, sorry, Christy was ready to move on to the next question. It's not an either/or, either. I think that's important, and that's what it has been. There's no question that development is that is the priority for us, and we will do as much as we can. When we acquire centers, it's incremental to that. It's an 'and'. It's not an either/or. And I think that that's really important because it goes with what Nick said. We're only going to pursue those acquisitions that will be accretive to earnings, growth, quality. And we've been really successful in doing so.
Lisa Palmer: If I may, I just want to—really, sorry, Christy was ready to move on to the next question. It's not an either/or, either. I think that's important, and that's what it has been. There's no question that development is that is the priority for us, and we will do as much as we can. When we acquire centers, it's incremental to that. It's an 'and'. It's not an either/or. And I think that that's really important because it goes with what Nick said. We're only going to pursue those acquisitions that will be accretive to earnings, growth, quality. And we've been really successful in doing so.
Speaker #6: There is—that is the priority for now, no question, but development is, and we will do as much as we can when we acquire centers.
Speaker #6: It's incremental to that. It's an end. It's not an either/or. And I think that that's really important because it goes with what Nick said.
Speaker #6: We're only
Speaker #6: going to pursue those acquisitions that will be accretive to earnings, growth, and quality. And we've been really successful in
Speaker #6: doing so. Thanks,
Christy McElroy: Thanks, Samir.
Christy McElroy: Thanks, Samir.
Speaker #4: Thank Samir. you.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Thank you.
Samir Khanal: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Our next question comes from Michael Goldsmith with UBS. Your line is now.
Operator: Our next question comes from Michael Goldsmith with UBS. Your line is now live.
Operator: Our next question comes from Michael Goldsmith with UBS. Your line is now live.
Speaker #3: live. Good morning.
Michael Goldsmith: Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. Amazon is out there. They're closing their Amazon Fresh grocery stores. It looks like you have 4 of them. So I guess maybe big picture, what do you think that means for the grocery sector as a whole? And then related to those boxes, have you gotten any indication that those would be converted to Whole Foods, or have you received interest to try to understand the underlying real estate of your Amazon Fresh locations as well? Thanks.
Michael Goldsmith: Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. Amazon is out there. They're closing their Amazon Fresh grocery stores. It looks like you have 4 of them. So I guess maybe big picture, what do you think that means for the grocery sector as a whole? And then related to those boxes, have you gotten any indication that those would be converted to Whole Foods, or have you received interest to try to understand the underlying real estate of your Amazon Fresh locations as well? Thanks.
Speaker #8: Thanks a lot for taking my question. Amazon is out there—they're closing their Amazon Fresh grocery stores. It looks like you have four of them.
Speaker #8: Maybe big picture, what do you—so I guess, what do you think that means for the grocery sector as a whole? And then, related to those boxes, have you gotten any indication that those would be converted to Whole Foods, or have underlying real estate of your Amazon Fresh? Have you received interest—just trying to understand the locations as well?
Speaker #8: Thanks.
Lisa Palmer: Hi, Michael. I'll start with the bigger picture and then toss it to Alan for specific Regency impacts. Short answer is Amazon still owns Whole Foods, and we are really encouraged with this announcement that they're leaning in even more into expanding Whole Foods, one of our best customers. This is certainly not a pullback from a physical store location. It's just a rebranding of where they do have stores. So we're really encouraged by that. The grocery business has always been tough. We know that. It's why our strategy is to ensure that we're investing with the top brands and then also the banners within those brands and then also the top sales productivity of those chains themselves. It's been a winning strategy for us, and we expect that will continue.
Lisa Palmer: Hi, Michael. I'll start with the bigger picture and then toss it to Alan for specific Regency impacts. Short answer is Amazon still owns Whole Foods, and we are really encouraged with this announcement that they're leaning in even more into expanding Whole Foods, one of our best customers. This is certainly not a pullback from a physical store location. It's just a rebranding of where they do have stores. So we're really encouraged by that. The grocery business has always been tough. We know that. It's why our strategy is to ensure that we're investing with the top brands and then also the banners within those brands and then also the top sales productivity of those chains themselves. It's been a winning strategy for us, and we expect that will continue.
Speaker #6: With the bigger picture—and then I'll toss it to Alan. Hi, Michael. I'll start with specific Regency impacts. Short answer is, Amazon still owns Whole Foods, and we are really encouraged that with this announcement, they're leaning in even more into expanding Whole Foods.
Speaker #6: One of our best customers. This is certainly not a pullback from a physical store location. It's just a rebranding of where they do have stores.
Speaker #6: So we're really encouraged by that. The grocery business has always been tough. We know that. It's why our strategy is to ensure that we're investing with the top brands, and then also the banners within those brands, and then also the top sales productivity of those chains themselves.
Speaker #6: It's been a winning strategy for us, and we expect that.
Speaker #6: will continue.
Speaker #2: Yeah, Michael, and I would
Alan Roth: Yeah, Michael. And I would layer on top of that, you're absolutely right. They announced their closure of their entire fleet. We do have four of them. All four of ours did, in fact, close. But the grocery sector is strong in terms of their expansion right now. And a few things could happen. You're absolutely right. Some of our stores could become Whole Foods in terms of conversion, but there's plenty of active groceries out there that are also very interesting. And the amount of inbounds we got immediately when that announcement came out, again, speaks to, I think, the strength of the real estate and the desire to fill it. Importantly, I would add there is significant term remaining on those leases. It is Amazon credit.
Alan Roth: Yeah, Michael. And I would layer on top of that, you're absolutely right. They announced their closure of their entire fleet. We do have four of them. All four of ours did, in fact, close. But the grocery sector is strong in terms of their expansion right now. And a few things could happen. You're absolutely right. Some of our stores could become Whole Foods in terms of conversion, but there's plenty of active groceries out there that are also very interesting. And the amount of inbounds we got immediately when that announcement came out, again, speaks to, I think, the strength of the real estate and the desire to fill it. Importantly, I would add there is significant term remaining on those leases. It is Amazon credit.
Speaker #2: Layer on top of that, you're absolutely right, they announced their closure of their entire fleet. We do have four of them. All four of ours did, in fact, close.
Speaker #2: But the grocery expansion right now—and a few things could happen. You're absolutely right, some of our stores could become Whole Foods in terms of conversion.
Speaker #2: But there's plenty of active grocers out there that are also of inbounds we got immediately when that announcement came out. Again, speaks to, I think, the strength of the real estate and the desire to fill it.
Speaker #2: Importantly, I would add there is significant term remaining on those leases. It is Amazon credit. And we're going to be, from a merchandising standpoint, and something patient, and we're going to make the right decision that is accretive.
Alan Roth: And we're going to be patient, and we're going to make the right decision from a merchandising standpoint and something that is accretive to the portfolio and is right for the community. So more to come on that front, for sure. But I am personally very comfortable, given the existing makeup of those assets and directionally where we're going to take them.
Alan Roth: And we're going to be patient, and we're going to make the right decision from a merchandising standpoint and something that is accretive to the portfolio and is right for the community. So more to come on that front, for sure. But I am personally very comfortable, given the existing makeup of those assets and directionally where we're going to take them.
Speaker #2: To the portfolio, and is right for the community. So more to come on that front, for sure. But I am personally very comfortable given the existing makeup of those assets and, directionally, where we're going to take them.
Speaker #7: Thank you,
Christy McElroy: Thank you, Michael.
Christy McElroy: Thank you, Michael.
Speaker #7: Michael. Thank you very much.
Michael Goldsmith: Thank you very much.
Michael Goldsmith: Thank you very much.
Speaker #5: Yeah.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Yeah.
Alan Roth: Yeah.
Speaker #3: Our next question comes from Cooper Clark with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
Operator: Our next question comes from Cooper Clark with Wells Fargo. Your line is live.
Operator: Our next question comes from Cooper Clark with Wells Fargo. Your line is live.
Speaker #3: live. Great.
Speaker #5: Thanks for taking the question. I wanted to ask about the $325 million development and redevelopment spend guidance as you continue to lean more into ground-up development.
Lisa Palmer: Great. Thanks for taking the question. I wanted to ask about the $325 million development and redevelopment spend guidance as you continue to lean more into ground-up development. Could you provide color on how we should think about the mix between ground-up development spend and redevelopment within the $325 guide? Also, any color on the current pipeline for additional ground-up starts in 2026 following the Q4 activity would be helpful as well.
Cooper Clark: Great. Thanks for taking the question. I wanted to ask about the $325 million development and redevelopment spend guidance as you continue to lean more into ground-up development. Could you provide color on how we should think about the mix between ground-up development spend and redevelopment within the $325 guide? Also, any color on the current pipeline for additional ground-up starts in 2026 following the Q4 activity would be helpful as well.
Speaker #5: Could you provide color on how we should think about the mix between ground-up development spend and redevelopment within the $325 million guide? Also, any color on the current pipeline for additional ground-up starts in 2026 following the fourth quarter activity would be helpful as well.
Speaker #5: well.
Speaker #2: Let me start real quick, Cooper, and then I'm going to—
Alan Roth: Let me start real quick, Cooper, and then I'm going to hand it over to Nick. Just fundamentally, on the numbers, $325 million of spend is roughly two-thirds ground-up, one-third redef, so just to frame the conversation. And then Nick's going to take it from here and talk about the mix of starts in 2025 and then what he thinks the direction is going forward.
Michael Mas: Let me start real quick, Cooper, and then I'm going to hand it over to Nick. Just fundamentally, on the numbers, $325 million of spend is roughly two-thirds ground-up, one-third redef, so just to frame the conversation. And then Nick's going to take it from here and talk about the mix of starts in 2025 and then what he thinks the direction is going forward.
Speaker #2: Hand it over to Nick. Just fundamentally, on the numbers, $325 million to spend is roughly two-thirds ground-up, one-third redev. So just to frame the conversation.
Speaker #2: Here, and talk about the mix of starts in '25 and then what he—and then Nick's going to take it from there, what he thinks the direction is going.
Speaker #2: forward. Yeah, absolutely.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Yeah, absolutely. Appreciate it, Cooper. And so as Mike alluded to, strong starts in 2025 with over $300 million, and those continue to lean more into ground-up development. So as we look at 2025, 75% of those starts were ground-up development. And as we look forward into 2026 and beyond, as I articulated in our prepared remarks, we believe we can be on a run rate here as we look at our shadow pipeline of $1 billion over the next three years of new investment. And I would think that approximately 75% of those being ground-up developments is a good placeholder in your mind. And so that's why we continue to be excited about not only the projects we've started, but this future pipeline that we have very good visibility to.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Yeah, absolutely. Appreciate it, Cooper. And so as Mike alluded to, strong starts in 2025 with over $300 million, and those continue to lean more into ground-up development. So as we look at 2025, 75% of those starts were ground-up development. And as we look forward into 2026 and beyond, as I articulated in our prepared remarks, we believe we can be on a run rate here as we look at our shadow pipeline of $1 billion over the next three years of new investment. And I would think that approximately 75% of those being ground-up developments is a good placeholder in your mind. And so that's why we continue to be excited about not only the projects we've started, but this future pipeline that we have very good visibility to.
Speaker #8: Appreciate it, Cooper. And so, as Mike alluded to, strong starts in 2025 with over $300 million, and those continue to lean more into ground-up development.
Speaker #8: So, as we look at 2025, 75% of those starts were ground-up, '26 and beyond. As I articulated in our prepared remarks, we believe we can be on a run rate here as development.
Speaker #8: We look at our shadow pipeline of a billion dollars over the next three years of new investment. And I would think, as we look forward into that, approximately 75% of those being ground-up developments is a good placeholder in your mind.
Speaker #8: And so that's why we continue to be excited about not only the projects we've started, but this future pipeline that we have very good visibility to.
Speaker #7: Thanks so much,
Christy McElroy: Thanks so much, Cooper.
Christy McElroy: Thanks so much, Cooper.
Speaker #7: Cooper.
Alan Roth: Thank you.
Alan Roth: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Our next question is from Craig Melman with Citi. Your line is now live. Hey, good morning. Just wanted to follow up on the shop side of things.
Operator: Our next question is from Craig Mailman with Citi. Your line is now live.
Operator: Our next question is from Craig Mailman with Citi. Your line is now live.
Craig Mailman: Hey, good morning. Just wanted to follow up on the shop side of things. How much more room do you guys think you have kind of to push there given the demand? And also just kind of curious, Alan, you had mentioned that you're seeing people kind of line up for spaces that are already occupied. I'm just kind of curious how that translates into are these upgraded tenants potentially where you could charge more rent? Are these kind of stalking horses on pushing renewals? Just kind of curious how that ultimately plays out. And then to flip into a follow-up on Michael's question, should we expect any lease term fees on the Amazon Go's, or is that just they're going to pay out the rest of their term?
Craig Mailman: Hey, good morning. Just wanted to follow up on the shop side of things. How much more room do you guys think you have kind of to push there given the demand? And also just kind of curious, Alan, you had mentioned that you're seeing people kind of line up for spaces that are already occupied. I'm just kind of curious how that translates into are these upgraded tenants potentially where you could charge more rent? Are these kind of stalking horses on pushing renewals? Just kind of curious how that ultimately plays out. And then to flip into a follow-up on Michael's question, should we expect any lease term fees on the Amazon Go's, or is that just they're going to pay out the rest of their term?
Speaker #3: How much more room do you guys think you have, kind of, to push there given the demand? And also, just kind of curious, Alan, you had mentioned that you're seeing people kind of line up for spaces that are already occupied.
Speaker #3: I'm just kind of curious how that translates into, are these upgraded tenants potentially where you could charge more rent? Are these kind of stalking horses on pushing renewals?
Speaker #3: Just kind of curious how that ultimately plays out. And then, to flip into a follow-up on Michael's question—should we expect any lease term fees on the Amazon Go's, or is that just they're going to pay out the rest of their term?
Speaker #2: Craig, good morning, and thank you for the question. I appreciate you pointing out the shop occupancy. It's one thing that I take pride in—smiling about the success that the team has had.
Alan Roth: Craig, good morning, and thank you for the question. I appreciate you pointing out the shop occupancy. It's one thing that I take pride in smiling about the success that the team has had. We are at peak. We did break another record, but I've had the good fortune of saying we broke a record again. So I am absolutely not putting a ceiling on that. Despite that peak occupancy, it did grow 70 basis points year-over-year. The demand is still there, and the lack of supply is real. The 1 million sq ft that we have in negotiations across all regions, and our teams are, as you pointed out, proactively leasing space. It was really all of the above of what you defined. Generally speaking, look, merchandising is really important to us. Qualifying for the right operators and driving accretive returns is certainly the goal.
Alan Roth: Craig, good morning, and thank you for the question. I appreciate you pointing out the shop occupancy. It's one thing that I take pride in smiling about the success that the team has had. We are at peak. We did break another record, but I've had the good fortune of saying we broke a record again. So I am absolutely not putting a ceiling on that. Despite that peak occupancy, it did grow 70 basis points year-over-year. The demand is still there, and the lack of supply is real. The 1 million sq ft that we have in negotiations across all regions, and our teams are, as you pointed out, proactively leasing space. It was really all of the above of what you defined. Generally speaking, look, merchandising is really important to us. Qualifying for the right operators and driving accretive returns is certainly the goal.
Speaker #2: We are at peak. We did break another record, but I've had the good fortune of saying we broke a record again. So I am absolutely not putting a ceiling on that.
Speaker #2: And despite that, at that peak occupancy, it did grow 70 basis points year over year. The demand is still there, and the lack of supply is real.
Speaker #2: The million square feet that we have in negotiations across all regions, and our teams are, as you pointed out, proactively leasing space. It was really all of the above of what you defined.
Speaker #2: And generally speaking, look, merchandising is really important to us. Qualifying for the right operators and driving accretive returns is certainly the goal. So we are in many instances driving higher rents, but to the extent that it makes more sense, after getting into that negotiation, to keep a tenant in place, we will certainly do that as well.
Alan Roth: So we are, in many instances, driving higher rents, but to the extent that it makes more sense after getting into that negotiation to keep a tenant in place, we will certainly do that as well. So I would say it's rarely a stalking horse situation. We will typically commit to who we think is right for the asset, right for the community, and right for Regency. But I remain really encouraged in terms of where we are on the shop front. The term fee actually, Alan, you didn't answer that. I think that was your third question. Really well done. Kind of getting them all in, Craig. TBD, again, it will depend on the circumstances of where we are. If there's significant term that remains and there's an opportunity to negotiate something that is favorable for all of us, we will evaluate all of those on a case-by-case basis.
Alan Roth: So we are, in many instances, driving higher rents, but to the extent that it makes more sense after getting into that negotiation to keep a tenant in place, we will certainly do that as well. So I would say it's rarely a stalking horse situation. We will typically commit to who we think is right for the asset, right for the community, and right for Regency. But I remain really encouraged in terms of where we are on the shop front. The term fee actually, Alan, you didn't answer that. I think that was your third question. Really well done. Kind of getting them all in, Craig. TBD, again, it will depend on the circumstances of where we are. If there's significant term that remains and there's an opportunity to negotiate something that is favorable for all of us, we will evaluate all of those on a case-by-case basis.
Speaker #2: So, I would say it's rarely a stalking horse situation. We will typically commit to who we think is right for the asset, right for the community.
Speaker #2: And right for Regency. But I remain really encouraged in terms of where we are on the shop front. The term fee—actually, I'll even answer that.
Speaker #2: I think that was your third question. Really? Well done. Kind of getting them all in.
Speaker #1: Right .
Speaker #2: TBD again . It will depend on the of of where we are . If there's that circumstances remains term and there's an significant opportunity an opportunity to negotiate , negotiate something that favorable for all of is evaluate all of a case by case basis .
Alan Roth: But there are certainly plenty of instances of lease termination negotiations where appropriate. And just to be clear, there is no term fee from Amazon in any of our Outlook guided items.
Alan Roth: But there are certainly plenty of instances of lease termination negotiations where appropriate. And just to be clear, there is no term fee from Amazon in any of our Outlook guided items.
Speaker #2: But there are certainly instances, plenty of termination negotiations, where those are appropriate.
Speaker #3: And just to be clear, there is no term fee for Amazon in—
Speaker #3: any of our outlook guided
Christy McElroy: Thank you, Craig.
Christy McElroy: Thank you, Craig.
Speaker #3: items .
Speaker #1: Craig
Operator: Our next question comes from Greg McGinniss with Scotiabank. Your line is now live.
Operator: Our next question comes from Greg McGinniss with Scotiabank. Your line is now live.
Speaker #4: Our next question comes from Greg McGinnis. Thank you. The line is now live with Scotiabank. Your question?
Alan Roth: Hey, good morning. So based on some recent retailer earnings and commentary, it appears we might be seeing some early signs of softening consumer resilience. Now, obviously, spreads were good this quarter, and development leasing seems to be going really well. But have you noticed any changes in store openings or closure discussions with tenants or the types of tenants looking to open and close? Is there any updates to your tenant watchlist? Thank you. Greg, good morning, and thanks for that question. Look, I guess I would first start so tenant health, our ARs are below our historic norms. Our sales continue to trend up. Our foot traffic continues to trend up. So as we kind of look at it from a look-backwards basis, I'm really comfortable with where we are. On a go-forward basis, I'm going to look at my pipeline, right?
Greg McGinniss: Hey, good morning. So based on some recent retailer earnings and commentary, it appears we might be seeing some early signs of softening consumer resilience. Now, obviously, spreads were good this quarter, and development leasing seems to be going really well. But have you noticed any changes in store openings or closure discussions with tenants or the types of tenants looking to open and close? Is there any updates to your tenant watchlist? Thank you.
Speaker #5: Hey , good morning . So based some on recent retailer earnings and appears commentary , it we might be and there's signs of some early seeing softening consumer resilience .
Speaker #5: Now , obviously , good this spreads were quarter . And development leasing seems to be going really well . But have you noticed any changes in store openings or closure discussions with tenants or the tenants looking types of to open and close ?
Speaker #5: You know, is there any update to your tenant watch list? Thank you.
Alan Roth: Greg, good morning, and thanks for that question. Look, I guess I would first start so tenant health, our ARs are below our historic norms. Our sales continue to trend up. Our foot traffic continues to trend up. So as we kind of look at it from a look-backwards basis, I'm really comfortable with where we are. On a go-forward basis, I'm going to look at my pipeline, right?
Speaker #2: Greg . Good morning and thanks for that question . Look , I guess I would tenant health first start so our Ares are below our historic sales norms .
Speaker #2: trend up our Our foot traffic continues to trend up . So as we kind look to it from look at a look backwards basis , I'm really comfortable with with where are we on a go forward basis .
Alan Roth: And I'm going to look at where we are at currently in terms of flow of inbound deals and also look to, of those inbound deals and recently executed transactions that are coming through, how successful are we on growth? And again, you heard my opening remarks. We're having tremendous success with gap rent spreads by really focusing not just on that initial spread, but on the annual embedded rent steps. So as I sort of convert that back to the consumer resilience in our assets in our trade area, I'm not going to say it doesn't exist anywhere, but we feel really comfortable and really confident with the data that we have, both on a look-backwards and a near-term look-forward, in where we stand.
Alan Roth: And I'm going to look at where we are at currently in terms of flow of inbound deals and also look to, of those inbound deals and recently executed transactions that are coming through, how successful are we on growth? And again, you heard my opening remarks. We're having tremendous success with gap rent spreads by really focusing not just on that initial spread, but on the annual embedded rent steps. So as I sort of convert that back to the consumer resilience in our assets in our trade area, I'm not going to say it doesn't exist anywhere, but we feel really comfortable and really confident with the data that we have, both on a look-backwards and a near-term look-forward, in where we stand.
Speaker #2: I'm going to look at my pipeline, right. And I'm going to look at where we are currently in terms of flow of inbound deals, and also look to, of those inbound deals,
Speaker #2: And recently executed that are transactions that are through coming . How successful on are we on , on growth . And again , you heard my opening We're having remarks .
Speaker #2: Tremendous success with GAAP rent spreads, really focusing not just on that initial, but by that spread annually on the embedded rent step.
Speaker #2: So as I sort of You know , convert that the back to consumer resilience in assets and our trade area , I'm not going to say it , it doesn't exist anywhere .
Speaker #2: But really, we're comfortable and really confident we feel with the data that we have, both on a look backwards and in a near-term look forward, and where we stand.
Lisa Palmer: It's important to remember the type of retail real estate that we do own and operate. As Alan said, we're not immune to consumer pressures and to downturns, but we're certainly much more insulated and really well-positioned because of the essential nature of our merchants, essentially service providers, the convenience factor in close to the neighborhoods, and the value that our centers provide. And on top of that, the neighborhoods in which we operate. So much more insulated and really well-positioned.
Lisa Palmer: It's important to remember the type of retail real estate that we do own and operate. As Alan said, we're not immune to consumer pressures and to downturns, but we're certainly much more insulated and really well-positioned because of the essential nature of our merchants, essentially service providers, the convenience factor in close to the neighborhoods, and the value that our centers provide. And on top of that, the neighborhoods in which we operate. So much more insulated and really well-positioned.
Speaker #1: It's important to remember the of real estate retail that we type do own and operate . As Allen said , we're not immune consumer to pressures and to downturns , but we're we're certainly much more insulated and really well positioned because of the essential nature of the the our merchants , the , service providers , the convenience factor close to the and the value that our centers provide .
Speaker #1: And on top of neighborhoods that, essentially, neighborhoods in which we operate. So much more insulated, really well positioned.
Christy McElroy: Thank you, Greg.
Christy McElroy: Thank you, Greg.
Speaker #2: Thank you . Greg
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Operator: Our next question is from Todd Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is live.
Operator: Our next question is from Todd Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is live.
Speaker #4: Our question is from next Todd KeyBanc Thomas with Capital Markets. Your line is live.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Hi, thanks. Good morning. I wanted to ask about development, and you talked about the favorable backdrop for development and for Regency, how it's a key differentiator and what's been a low supply growth environment in general. Historically, developers seek favorable risk-reward opportunities, and the narrative around low supply growth seems broadly understood. You talked about the strength and demand from grocers and shop tenants. So is development activity poised to increase? Do you see the competitive landscape changing at all for new development sites more broadly as you look out over the sort of next couple of years? Do you think that development activity in the open-air space starts to accelerate a little bit? Morning, Todd. This is Nick. I appreciate the question. The answer is yes, but with an asterisk.
Todd Thomas: Hi, thanks. Good morning. I wanted to ask about development, and you talked about the favorable backdrop for development and for Regency, how it's a key differentiator and what's been a low supply growth environment in general. Historically, developers seek favorable risk-reward opportunities, and the narrative around low supply growth seems broadly understood. You talked about the strength and demand from grocers and shop tenants. So is development activity poised to increase? Do you see the competitive landscape changing at all for new development sites more broadly as you look out over the sort of next couple of years? Do you think that development activity in the open-air space starts to accelerate a little bit?
Speaker #6: Hi . Thanks . Good morning . I wanted to ask about development , and you talked about , you know , the favorable backdrop for for development and for how for Regency , how it's a key what's been differentiator .
Speaker #6: a low supply growth environment in general . You know , and historically , developers seek And favorable risk reward opportunities . And the narrative supply around low seems broadly growth understood .
Speaker #6: And you talked about the strength in demand from grocers and shop tenants. So as development activity is poised to increase, do you see the competitive landscape changing at all for new development sites?
Speaker #6: More broadly , as you you look out over the next couple of years , do you you know , think that development activity open air space starts to accelerate a little bit ?
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Morning, Todd. This is Nick. I appreciate the question. The answer is yes, but with an asterisk.
Speaker #7: Todd . This is Morning , Nick . I answer is appreciate the question . yes , but with an asterisk . And The so question we're there's no seeing tremendous demand as Alan just articulated .
Nick Wibbenmeyer: There's no question we're seeing tremendous demand, as Alan just articulated, and as we're seeing in our development pipeline in terms of not only the velocity of new starts, but the velocity of the lease-up of those projects matching and/or sometimes marginally beating our underwriting. And so we feel really confident in what we're working on and the underlying demand. And do I think there's going to be continued growth in the developments? Yes, but coming off a very low number. And so we are doing a large portion of the development around the country. But when you compare that amount of supply compared to the existing supply, it's a very, very small amount in the grand scheme of things. So yes, I think we're going to see more opportunities. Yes, we're excited about the developments we're working on.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: There's no question we're seeing tremendous demand, as Alan just articulated, and as we're seeing in our development pipeline in terms of not only the velocity of new starts, but the velocity of the lease-up of those projects matching and/or sometimes marginally beating our underwriting. And so we feel really confident in what we're working on and the underlying demand. And do I think there's going to be continued growth in the developments? Yes, but coming off a very low number. And so we are doing a large portion of the development around the country. But when you compare that amount of supply compared to the existing supply, it's a very, very small amount in the grand scheme of things. So yes, I think we're going to see more opportunities. Yes, we're excited about the developments we're working on.
Speaker #7: And as we're seeing in our development pipeline, in terms of not only the velocity of new starts, but the velocity of the lease-up of projects, those are marginally beating our matching and sometimes even our feel underwriting.
Speaker #7: really confident in what we're working on And . And the underlying demand . And do I think there there's going to be continued growth in the developments .
Speaker #7: Really confident in what we're working on, and the underlying demand. And do I think there's going to be continued growth in the—
Speaker #7: Yes, but coming off of a very low number. And in the end, we are doing a large portion of the development around the country.
Speaker #7: But the amount of compare that when you supply compared to the existing supply, very, very amount in small—the grand scheme of it's a things.
Speaker #7: yes , I think we're going to So see more opportunities . Yes , we're excited about the developments . We're working on . Yes , we are starting to see more competition for those opportunities .
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Yes, we are starting to see more competition for those opportunities. So I do think there's upward trajectory, but it's still going to be a very limited amount compared to the overall supply in the industry.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Yes, we are starting to see more competition for those opportunities. So I do think there's upward trajectory, but it's still going to be a very limited amount compared to the overall supply in the industry.
Speaker #7: So I do think there’s upward trajectory, but it’s still going to be limited—a very limited amount of supply overall compared to the industry.
Christy McElroy: Thanks, Todd.
Christy McElroy: Thanks, Todd.
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Speaker #1: Thanks , Todd .
Operator: Our next question comes from Michael Griffin with Evercore ISI. Your line is live.
Operator: Our next question comes from Michael Griffin with Evercore ISI. Your line is live.
Speaker #4: Our next question comes from Michael Griffin with Evercore ISI. Your line is live.
Alan Roth: Great, thanks. Alan, I wanted to go back to some of your comments during the prepared remarks, particularly around kind of occupancy and to be able to drive that on the anchor leasing side. It clearly seems like, from a landlord perspective, just given the favorable supply-demand backdrop, you've probably got some decent leverage. So, not asking you to give away the secret sauce, but could this maybe translate into whether it's shorter options that you're negotiating, maybe embedding some rent escalators? I know some of those grocery anchor leases can be flat for a pretty long period. Just give us a sense maybe of how you're able to leverage sort of the demand environment you're in to build that occupancy, particularly as it relates to the anchor leases. Thank you. Yeah, Michael, thank you for that question.
Michael Griffin: Great, thanks. Alan, I wanted to go back to some of your comments during the prepared remarks, particularly around kind of occupancy and to be able to drive that on the anchor leasing side. It clearly seems like, from a landlord perspective, just given the favorable supply-demand backdrop, you've probably got some decent leverage. So, not asking you to give away the secret sauce, but could this maybe translate into whether it's shorter options that you're negotiating, maybe embedding some rent escalators? I know some of those grocery anchor leases can be flat for a pretty long period. Just give us a sense maybe of how you're able to leverage sort of the demand environment you're in to build that occupancy, particularly as it relates to the anchor leases. Thank you.
Speaker #8: Great . Alan . I wanted to go back to some of your comments during the prepared remarks , Thanks , particularly around kind of occupancy and be able to drive that on the anchor leasing You know , it side .
Speaker #8: clearly seems like from a landlord perspective , just given the favorable supply demand backdrop , you've probably got some some decent leverage . So not not asking you to give secret sauce .
Speaker #8: But you know , could this maybe translate away the into whether shorter it's options that you're negotiating , maybe embedding some rent escalators ?
Speaker #8: I know some of those grocery rank releases can be flat for a period . Just give sense pretty long , maybe , of how you're able to leverage sort of the demand environment you're in to , build that to occupancy , particularly as it relates to the anchor leases .
Alan Roth: Yeah, Michael, thank you for that question.
Speaker #8: Thank you .
Speaker #2: Yeah , Michael , thank you for that question . So , you know , the a few questions ago we talked about occupancy being levels .
Alan Roth: So a few questions ago, we talked about shop occupancy being at peak levels. We do see runway on the anchor front. We've got about 50 basis points of spread to get us back to that peak level. And so I'm really encouraged, and you heard in those opening remarks, the comments of Whole Foods, Traders, Sprouts, and grocers that are being executed for that space. But I would say first and foremost, it's quality. And that's where we have kind of the leverage of being able to choose who do we want to really interact with. And I look at our pipeline of anchors that are in negotiation: PJ Superstore, Our House, Pottery Barn, Total Wine. I mean, I'm going non-grocery now, and that list continues on. And so I feel really comfortable about that. There is an opportunity, certainly, to lean more into the rent spread nature of it.
Alan Roth: So a few questions ago, we talked about shop occupancy being at peak levels. We do see runway on the anchor front. We've got about 50 basis points of spread to get us back to that peak level. And so I'm really encouraged, and you heard in those opening remarks, the comments of Whole Foods, Traders, Sprouts, and grocers that are being executed for that space. But I would say first and foremost, it's quality. And that's where we have kind of the leverage of being able to choose who do we want to really interact with. And I look at our pipeline of anchors that are in negotiation: PJ Superstore, Our House, Pottery Barn, Total Wine. I mean, I'm going non-grocery now, and that list continues on. And so I feel really comfortable about that. There is an opportunity, certainly, to lean more into the rent spread nature of it.
Speaker #2: We do see runway anchor on the at peak. We've got about of spread, us back to front. That points to get 50 basis peak level.
Speaker #2: really And so And you heard encouraged . opening in those remarks , the comments of Whole Foods traders , sprouts , grocers that are being executed for that space .
Speaker #2: But I would say, first and foremost, it's quality. And that's where we have kind of the leverage of being able to do what we want, to interact, choose who with.
Speaker #2: And , you know , I look at our I'm of anchors that are in pipeline negotiation . PJ Superstore , our house , Pottery Barn , Total Wine .
Speaker #2: I mean , I'm going non grocery now . And that list continues on . And so I feel really comfortable about that . There is really lean more into the rent spread nature of it .
Alan Roth: Capital is also another lever that we can certainly pull in an environment like this in terms of how we're going to address a work letter and/or our contribution, which may be a bit more muted. But overall, there's a lot of users out there. I think you would hear from them. They've got bold growth plans, and just the lack of supply is putting them in a position where there is more competition on their front.
Alan Roth: Capital is also another lever that we can certainly pull in an environment like this in terms of how we're going to address a work letter and/or our contribution, which may be a bit more muted. But overall, there's a lot of users out there. I think you would hear from them. They've got bold growth plans, and just the lack of supply is putting them in a position where there is more competition on their front.
Speaker #2: You know, capital is also another lever that we can certainly pull in an environment like this in terms of how we're going to address a work letter and/or our contribution, which may be a bit more muted.
Speaker #2: But there's a lot overall there's of there . I would hear them from to think you . They've got bold growth plans and just the lack of supply is putting them in a position where there is there is more competition on their front .
Christy McElroy: Thanks, Chris.
Christy McElroy: Thanks, Chris.
Speaker #1: Thanks , Chris .
Operator: Our next question comes from Juan Sanabria with BMO Capital. Your line is live.
Operator: Our next question comes from Juan Sanabria with BMO Capital. Your line is live.
Speaker #4: The next question comes from Juan Sanabria with BMO Capital. Your line is live.
Juan Sanabria: Hi, good morning. Thanks for the time. Maybe just a two-parter if I can try to be a little greedy here. You've talked about rent bumps and record gap leasing spreads. So curious on what you may be able to articulate on those bumps that you are achieving leading to the higher gap numbers. And then secondly, just curious on any color you could provide on build occupancy and the assumptions embedded in guidance as to how that will flow through the year.
Juan Sanabria: Hi, good morning. Thanks for the time. Maybe just a two-parter if I can try to be a little greedy here. You've talked about rent bumps and record gap leasing spreads. So curious on what you may be able to articulate on those bumps that you are achieving leading to the higher gap numbers. And then secondly, just curious on any color you could provide on build occupancy and the assumptions embedded in guidance as to how that will flow through the year.
Speaker #9: Good morning .
Speaker #9: Thanks for the time Hi . . Maybe just a two parter if I can try to be a little greedy here . You've talked about rent bumps and record gap leasing spreads to curious on from what you may be able to articulate on on those bumps that you are you what achieving leading to the higher GAAP numbers .
Speaker #9: And then secondly, just curious if you could provide any color on build occupancy and the assumptions embedded in guidance as to how that will flow through to the year.
Alan Roth: Juan, so I'll start with the first question. I'll let Mike handle the second one. So 96% of our new and negotiated renewal deals had steps. I'll start with that. From a shop's perspective, 85% were 3% or higher, and 30% were 4% or higher. So I think you get the sense that it is a key focus for us in terms of leaning in. And that is clearly a big contributor to this kind of future long-term sustainable growth. And it is equally, if not more important, than the initial spreads that we've been going after. Michael, let you answer to that.
Alan Roth: Juan, so I'll start with the first question. I'll let Mike handle the second one. So 96% of our new and negotiated renewal deals had steps. I'll start with that. From a shop's perspective, 85% were 3% or higher, and 30% were 4% or higher. So I think you get the sense that it is a key focus for us in terms of leaning in. And that is clearly a big contributor to this kind of future long-term sustainable growth. And it is equally, if not more important, than the initial spreads that we've been going after. Michael, let you answer to that.
Speaker #2: Juan. So I'll start with the first question and let Mike—one of the Mikes—handle the second. Mike handles 96% of our new and negotiated renewal deals steps.
Speaker #2: I'll start from a shops perspective , with that 85% were 3% or had And 30% were 4% or higher . So I think you get the sense that it is a it is a key focus for us in terms of leaning in and you know , that is clearly a big contributor to kind of future long sustainable growth .
Speaker #2: And term and it is equally , if not more important than the initial spreads that that going after we've been . Mike , I'll let you answer the .
Michael Mas: Sure. From a commenced occupancy rate, let's first go back and just think about the material movement we made in 2025. So we moved to commenced occupancy by 150 basis points on average over the course of the year. That's what contributed to that outsized same property growth, namely coming from base rent and recoveries, all driven by that material increase in occupancy. As Alan has talked about today, we're approaching kind of peak occupancies, certainly in shop space, got some room to run in anchors, and we'd like to think we can continue to move that needle. When I think about the guide and the mid-3 area, I would characterize it as us continuing to kind of grind out commenced occupancy increases by compressing that SNO pipeline that we've built. It's currently standing at 240 basis points. Our average on a stabilized basis should be closer to 185 area.
Michael Mas: Sure. From a commenced occupancy rate, let's first go back and just think about the material movement we made in 2025. So we moved to commenced occupancy by 150 basis points on average over the course of the year. That's what contributed to that outsized same property growth, namely coming from base rent and recoveries, all driven by that material increase in occupancy. As Alan has talked about today, we're approaching kind of peak occupancies, certainly in shop space, got some room to run in anchors, and we'd like to think we can continue to move that needle. When I think about the guide and the mid-3 area, I would characterize it as us continuing to kind of grind out commenced occupancy increases by compressing that SNO pipeline that we've built. It's currently standing at 240 basis points. Our average on a stabilized basis should be closer to 185 area.
Speaker #3: From a commenced occupancy rate... You know, let's first go back and just think about the material movement we made in 2025.
Speaker #3: So we moved to commence occupancy by, on points average, over the course of the year. That's what contributed to that outsized same property growth, coming from namely base rent and recoveries, all driven by that material increase in.
Speaker #3: occupancy As Alan has talked about today , we're , we're approaching kind of peak occupancies , certainly in shop space , customers running in , in in anchors .
Speaker #3: And we'd like to think we can continue to move that needle . When I think about guide the and the mid three area , I would characterize it as us continuing to kind of commence grind out , occupancy increases by compressing that snow pipeline that we've built .
Speaker #3: It's currently standing at 240 basis points . Our average on a stabilized basis should be closer to 1.85 . Area . And and we we're certainly not planning for 150 basis points of commenced increases on of average .
Michael Mas: And we're certainly not planning for another 150 basis points of commenced increases on average. I think that would take us beyond any kind of sense of reality. So a continued positive tailwind of commenced growth on the margin kind of moving up from where we stand today.
Michael Mas: And we're certainly not planning for another 150 basis points of commenced increases on average. I think that would take us beyond any kind of sense of reality. So a continued positive tailwind of commenced growth on the margin kind of moving up from where we stand today.
Speaker #3: It's just, I think that would take us beyond any kind of sense of reality. So, a continued positive tailwind of commenced growth on the margin, kind of moving up from where we stand today.
Christy McElroy: Thanks, Juan.
Christy McElroy: Thanks, Juan.
Michael Mas: Thank you.
Michael Mas: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thanks , Juan .
Speaker #9: Thank you .
Operator: Our next question comes from Floris van Dijkum with Ladenburg Thalmann. Your line is live.
Operator: Our next question comes from Floris van Dijkum with Ladenburg Thalmann. Your line is live.
Speaker #4: Our next question comes from Florez Vanderkam Ladenburg Thalmann. Your line is live.
Floris Van Dijkum: Hey, guys. Thanks. By the way, I don't think anybody's mentioned it. And I might be off, but I believe this is the first year that you guys achieved over $1 billion of EBITDA as a public company. So it's a pretty meaningful signpost, I think. My question is on the capital allocation fronts and redevelopment versus developments. Obviously, your returns on redevelopment are about 200 basis points higher than on developments, which makes sense because you own the land. Have you identified how much potential redevelopment could you do or would you like to do? And what's the impediment to doing more redevelopments over the next two years?
Floris Van Dijkum: Hey, guys. Thanks. By the way, I don't think anybody's mentioned it. And I might be off, but I believe this is the first year that you guys achieved over $1 billion of EBITDA as a public company. So it's a pretty meaningful signpost, I think. My question is on the capital allocation fronts and redevelopment versus developments. Obviously, your returns on redevelopment are about 200 basis points higher than on developments, which makes sense because you own the land. Have you identified how much potential redevelopment could you do or would you like to do? And what's the impediment to doing more redevelopments over the next two years?
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Speaker #10: Thanks Hey . By the way , I don't think anybody's mentioned it . And I might be off , but I believe this is the first year that you guys achieved over a billion of EBITDA as a public company .
Speaker #10: So pretty , pretty meaningful signpost , I think my question is on the allocation front and capital redevelopment versus development . Obviously , your your returns redevelopment are about points higher than on 200 basis developments , which makes sense because you own the land .
Speaker #10: You have on identified how much potential redevelopment you could do, or would you like to do? What's the, and the impediment, more to redevelopment doing over the next two years?
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Sure. Appreciate the comments, Floris, and appreciate the question as always. So you're absolutely right. Look, and going back to kind of Lisa's comment earlier, we're in the great position to not be either/or. And so the reality is every time we can find an opportunity to invest in our existing portfolio creatively, we're going to take advantage of that. And our teams are motivated and focused on doing that every day. And so we continue to, as I alluded to earlier, we continue to have our eyesight at $1 billion over the next three years. And of that, I think assuming about 25% of that is in the redevelopment bucket is the right place to think in terms of just generally where we expect that capital to be spent. But again, our teams are looking every day at those opportunities.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Sure. Appreciate the comments, Floris, and appreciate the question as always. So you're absolutely right. Look, and going back to kind of Lisa's comment earlier, we're in the great position to not be either/or. And so the reality is every time we can find an opportunity to invest in our existing portfolio creatively, we're going to take advantage of that. And our teams are motivated and focused on doing that every day. And so we continue to, as I alluded to earlier, we continue to have our eyesight at $1 billion over the next three years. And of that, I think assuming about 25% of that is in the redevelopment bucket is the right place to think in terms of just generally where we expect that capital to be spent. But again, our teams are looking every day at those opportunities.
Speaker #7: Sure . comments . Appreciate the appreciate And always . For us . question as So you're right . absolutely Look , and and going back to kind of Lisa's comment earlier , we're in the the great position to not be either or .
Speaker #7: And so the reality is, every time we get an opportunity to find and invest in our existing portfolio creatively, we're going to take advantage of that.
Speaker #7: And our teams are motivated and focused on doing that every day. And so we continue to, as I alluded to earlier, we continue to have our sights set on $1 billion over the next three years.
Speaker #7: And of that, I think, assuming over about 25% of that is in the redevelopment bucket is the right place to think, in terms of just generally where we expect that capital to be spent.
Speaker #7: But again, our teams are looking every day at those opportunities, and what prevents them is, quite frankly, access back to some of that real, just getting estate.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: What prevents them is, quite frankly, just getting access back to some of that real estate. And so we don't have full control over when we can bring those redevelopments online. But the teams are working to get back a hold of real estate that we think there's a tremendous value to invest some capital in and reimagine. And so that's what we wake up doing every day.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: What prevents them is, quite frankly, just getting access back to some of that real estate. And so we don't have full control over when we can bring those redevelopments online. But the teams are working to get back a hold of real estate that we think there's a tremendous value to invest some capital in and reimagine. And so that's what we wake up doing every day.
Speaker #7: And so we don't have full control over when we can bring redevelopments online. But the teams are working to get back a hold of real estate that is tremendous value to invest in.
Speaker #7: And so reimagine. That's capital, and we wake up doing every what day.
Alan Roth: The growth in percentage of ground-up versus redev isn't a function of us not being focused on the redevelopment. It's a function of us really growing our ground-up development pipeline.
Lisa Palmer: The growth in percentage of ground-up versus redev isn't a function of us not being focused on the redevelopment. It's a function of us really growing our ground-up development pipeline.
Speaker #1: growth in The percentage of ground up versus re dev isn't a function of us not being focused on the redevelopment . It's of us a function growing really our ground up development pipeline .
Christy McElroy: Thanks, Floris. Appreciate it.
Christy McElroy: Thanks, Floris. Appreciate it.
Speaker #1: Thanks , Laura .
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Thanks.
Floris Van Dijkum: Thanks.
Speaker #11: Appreciate it . Thanks .
Operator: Our next question comes from Haendel St. Juste with Mizuho. Your line is now live.
Operator: Our next question comes from Haendel St. Juste with Mizuho. Your line is now live.
Speaker #4: Our next question comes from Handel Sanchez with Mizuho. Your line is live.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Hi, good morning. This is Ravi Devi on the line for Haendel. Hope you guys are doing well. I wanted to ask about your leasing spreads. I saw this quarter that your renewal spreads exceeded your new spreads along with having lower TIs. Can you discuss some of the puts and takes and what drove this? Thanks.
Ravi Vaidya: Hi, good morning. This is Ravi Devi on the line for Haendel. Hope you guys are doing well. I wanted to ask about your leasing spreads. I saw this quarter that your renewal spreads exceeded your new spreads along with having lower TIs. Can you discuss some of the puts and takes and what drove this? Thanks.
Speaker #11: Hi . Good morning . This is Ravi Davie on the line for Handel . Hope you guys are doing well . I wanted to ask about your leasing spreads .
Speaker #11: I saw that this quarter, your renewal spreads exceeded your new spreads, along with having lower TIs. Can you discuss some of the puts and takes and what drove this?
Speaker #11: Thanks .
Alan Roth: Yeah, Ravi, thank you for that. So again, I guess I'll start supply and demand, right? I mean, that's really a large part of where things are. But it can also be lumpy quarter-over-quarter. Generally speaking, our new transactions will lean in a bit more, but we just had the opportunity of some well-below-market leases that were expiring in the quarter, and we marked them to market. And so our teams are going to capitalize on that when the opportunity presents itself. Will it happen this upcoming quarter? Maybe, maybe not. But again, I feel really good about that nearly 13% in renewal spreads as our supply continues to dwindle down.
Alan Roth: Yeah, Ravi, thank you for that. So again, I guess I'll start supply and demand, right? I mean, that's really a large part of where things are. But it can also be lumpy quarter-over-quarter. Generally speaking, our new transactions will lean in a bit more, but we just had the opportunity of some well-below-market leases that were expiring in the quarter, and we marked them to market. And so our teams are going to capitalize on that when the opportunity presents itself. Will it happen this upcoming quarter? Maybe, maybe not. But again, I feel really good about that nearly 13% in renewal spreads as our supply continues to dwindle down.
Speaker #2: Yeah . Robbie . Thank you for that . So again , I guess I'll start supply and demand , right ? I mean , that's that's really a large things are , but it part can also lumpy over be quarter , over quarter , generally speaking , our new transactions will lean in a bit more .
Speaker #2: But we just had the opportunity of some well below-market leases that were expiring in the quarter, and we marked them to market.
Speaker #2: And so , you know , our teams are going to capitalize on that when the opportunity presents itself . You know , will it happen ?
Speaker #2: This this upcoming quarter ? Maybe . Maybe not . But again , I feel really good about that . That nearly 13% in renewal spreads as as our supply continues to to dwindle down .
Christy McElroy: Thank you, Ravi.
Christy McElroy: Thank you, Ravi.
Speaker #12: Thank you Ravi .
Operator: Our next question comes from Ronald Kamdem with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now live.
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Speaker #4: Our next question comes from Ronald Camden with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now live.
Ronald Kamdem: Hey, just, I had a quick one on the if you could just talk about acquisition cap rate and where you're seeing it and how that ties back to the development yields. Obviously, I see it's been holding, but do you sort of anticipate some pressure on there? And then my follow-up, if I may, is just I saw the commenced occupancy slide was taken out of the presentation. Just any comments on that would be helpful. Thanks.
Ronald Kamdem: Hey, just, I had a quick one on the if you could just talk about acquisition cap rate and where you're seeing it and how that ties back to the development yields. Obviously, I see it's been holding, but do you sort of anticipate some pressure on there? And then my follow-up, if I may, is just I saw the commenced occupancy slide was taken out of the presentation. Just any comments on that would be helpful. Thanks.
Speaker #13: Hey , just I had a quick one on the if you could just talk about acquisition cap rate and where you're seeing it and how that ties back to the development yields , obviously , I see it's been you sort of anticipate holding , but do some pressure there on And then .
Speaker #13: Hey , just I had a quick one on the if you could just talk about acquisition cap rate and where you're seeing it and how that ties back to the development yields , obviously , I see it's been you sort of anticipate holding , but do some pressure there on And then up , if my follow I may , is just I saw the commenced occupancy slide was taken out of the presentation just just any comments on that would be helpful .
Speaker #13: Thanks .
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Ronald, I'll start with the first question and then let Mike fill in on the second. So you're absolutely right. I mean, the good news of where we sit right now is from a value creation perspective, we are seeing cap rates continue to get pushed down for core grocery anchored assets. Those are exactly the assets that we're coming out of the ground with and completing. But our sights continues to be at 150 basis point-plus spread in terms of what we think our going-in yield on development should be compared to a core acquisition. These developments take years to put together and start and come online. So we are not moving our sights daily on a development like we are in the acquisition world, which is a little more fluid.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Ronald, I'll start with the first question and then let Mike fill in on the second. So you're absolutely right. I mean, the good news of where we sit right now is from a value creation perspective, we are seeing cap rates continue to get pushed down for core grocery anchored assets. Those are exactly the assets that we're coming out of the ground with and completing. But our sights continues to be at 150 basis point-plus spread in terms of what we think our going-in yield on development should be compared to a core acquisition. These developments take years to put together and start and come online. So we are not moving our sights daily on a development like we are in the acquisition world, which is a little more fluid.
Speaker #7: Ronald , I'll start with the first question and then let Mike fill in on the second . And so you're absolutely right . I mean , the good news of where we sit right now is from a value creation perspective , we are seeing cap rates continue to get pushed down for core grocery anchored assets .
Speaker #7: And those are exactly the assets that we're coming out of the ground with and completing . But our eyesight continues to be at 150 basis point plus spread in terms of what we think are going in yield on development should be compared to a core acquisition .
Speaker #7: these And developments take years to put together . And and start and come online . And so we are not moving our eyesight daily on a development like we are , you know , in the acquisition world , which is a little more fluid .
Nick Wibbenmeyer: And so I would expect our development starts for the foreseeable future to continue to be in that 7%+ range, which, again, we feel really, really good about given where we're seeing those assets trade out in the private market right now.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: And so I would expect our development starts for the foreseeable future to continue to be in that 7%+ range, which, again, we feel really, really good about given where we're seeing those assets trade out in the private market right now.
Speaker #7: And so I would foreseeable future to starts for expect continue to our development the be in that 7% plus range , which really , again , really good about given where we're seeing those assets trade at in the private market right now .
Alan Roth: Hey, Ron. On the commenced occupancy slide that we did remove from the investor presentation, really, that I think served a purpose in a post-COVID world of us compressing and returning to historical averages and highs on the occupancy front. We've largely achieved that. I think that's the reason we pulled the slide, is it's really just about the narrative has changed to forward growth from here. Alan's spoken a lot today about the continued opportunity for us to grow our percent leased. I've spoken a little bit about our more limited opportunity in 2026, but still opportunity to increase our percent commenced going forward. But we are back to where I think the portfolio needs to be and deserves to be given its quality.
Alan Roth: Hey, Ron. On the commenced occupancy slide that we did remove from the investor presentation, really, that I think served a purpose in a post-COVID world of us compressing and returning to historical averages and highs on the occupancy front. We've largely achieved that. I think that's the reason we pulled the slide, is it's really just about the narrative has changed to forward growth from here. Alan's spoken a lot today about the continued opportunity for us to grow our percent leased. I've spoken a little bit about our more limited opportunity in 2026, but still opportunity to increase our percent commenced going forward. But we are back to where I think the portfolio needs to be and deserves to be given its quality.
Speaker #3: Hey, Ron, on the occupancy, did we remove that slide from the investor presentation? Really, that— I think it served a purpose in a post-Covid world of us compressing and returning to historical averages and highs on the occupancy front.
Speaker #3: And we've largely achieved that. So I think that's the reason we pulled the slide—it's really just about the narrative has changed to forward growth from here.
Speaker #3: And Alan's spoken a lot today about the continued opportunity for us to grow our percent lease. I've spoken a little bit about our more limited opportunity in '26, but still opportunity to increase our percent commenced going forward.
Speaker #3: But we are back to where I think the portfolio needs to be and deserves to be, given its quality.
Christy McElroy: Thank you, Ron.
Christy McElroy: Thank you, Ron.
Ronald Kamdem: Thank you.
Ronald Kamdem: Thank you.
Speaker #12: Ron Thank you .
Speaker #13: you Thank .
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Speaker #4: Our Rome from Sydney. Next question comes from Barclays Bank. Your line is live.
[Analyst] (Barclays Bank): Hi. Thanks very much for answering my question. I was wondering if you could elaborate a bit on the construction cost assumptions embedded in the 9% stabilized development yield and whether you're underwriting any cost relief or increased pressure there.
[Analyst] (Barclays Bank): Hi. Thanks very much for answering my question. I was wondering if you could elaborate a bit on the construction cost assumptions embedded in the 9% stabilized development yield and whether you're underwriting any cost relief or increased pressure there.
Speaker #14: Hi . Thanks very much for asking for answering my question . I was wondering if you elaborate a bit on the construction cost assumptions could embedded in the 9% stabilized development yield , and whether you're underwriting any cost relief or increased pressure .
Speaker #14: There .
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Yeah, Sydney, good morning. Great question. The really good news right now is we feel really confident in our assumption on construction costs. So we obviously lived through a period of extreme volatility a couple of years ago regarding construction costs and really proud of our team's ability, even in that volatile time, to project construction costs appropriately. And so now as we sit here looking over our shoulder over the last 12 to 18 months and then also looking forward over the next 12 to 18 months, we feel really good that construction costs are stable. We have good visibility, and we are confident in our underwriting.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Yeah, Sydney, good morning. Great question. The really good news right now is we feel really confident in our assumption on construction costs. So we obviously lived through a period of extreme volatility a couple of years ago regarding construction costs and really proud of our team's ability, even in that volatile time, to project construction costs appropriately. And so now as we sit here looking over our shoulder over the last 12 to 18 months and then also looking forward over the next 12 to 18 months, we feel really good that construction costs are stable. We have good visibility, and we are confident in our underwriting.
Speaker #7: good Yeah . Sydney , morning . Great question . The really good news right now is we feel really confident in our assumption on construction costs .
Speaker #7: So, we obviously lived through a period of extreme volatility a couple of years ago regarding construction costs. And I'm really proud of our team's ability, even in that volatile time, to project construction costs appropriately.
Speaker #7: And so, now as we sit here looking over our shoulder over the last 12 to 18 months, and then also looking forward over the next 12 to 18 months, we feel really good that construction costs are stable.
Speaker #7: We have good visibility and we are confident in our outlook.
[Analyst] (Barclays Bank): Thank you.
[Analyst] (Barclays Bank): Thank you.
Speaker #15: Thank underwriting you .
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[Analyst] (Baird): Hey, thank you for taking my question. So can you provide some more color on the development pursuit costs and what led to the increase in the quarter? Is there anything structural that, now the development platform is getting bigger, this line item will continue to increase?
Alec Feygin: Hey, thank you for taking my question. So can you provide some more color on the development pursuit costs and what led to the increase in the quarter? Is there anything structural that, now the development platform is getting bigger, this line item will continue to increase?
Speaker #16: Hey, thank you for taking my question. Can you provide some more color on the development pursuit costs and what led to the increase in the quarter?
Speaker #16: Is there anything structural now that the development platform is getting bigger, that this line item will continue to increase?
Alan Roth: Hey, Alec, I'll take that one. I wouldn't look into much there. I think that is we did have a slightly elevated fourth quarter. I think that is consistent with our pursuits. I mean, we are working on a lot of projects. The pipelines that the teams have in process are deep. And as part of our annual kind of cleanup process, as we go through each of those rosters, we're going to decide whether or not those projects are worth continued pursuit, and we'll make a write-off decision. So I don't think there's anything to look into there. I would anticipate, though, that going forward, the teams are going to continue to cast wide nets. We're looking for opportunities across the platform.
Alan Roth: Hey, Alec, I'll take that one. I wouldn't look into much there. I think that is we did have a slightly elevated fourth quarter. I think that is consistent with our pursuits. I mean, we are working on a lot of projects. The pipelines that the teams have in process are deep. And as part of our annual kind of cleanup process, as we go through each of those rosters, we're going to decide whether or not those projects are worth continued pursuit, and we'll make a write-off decision. So I don't think there's anything to look into there. I would anticipate, though, that going forward, the teams are going to continue to cast wide nets. We're looking for opportunities across the platform.
Speaker #3: Hey , Alex , I'll take that one . I wouldn't look into much there . I think that is we did have a slightly elevated fourth quarter .
Speaker #3: I think that is consistent with our pursuits . I mean , we are working on a lot of projects . The pipelines that the teams have in process are are deep .
Speaker #3: And as part of our annual kind of cleanup process , as we go through each of those rosters , we're going to decide whether or not those projects are worth continued pursuit , and write off decision .
Speaker #3: we'll make a So anything to look into there . think there's I would anticipate , that going though , forward , the teams are going to continue to cast wide nets .
Speaker #3: We're looking for opportunities across the platform , and I think if you think about the efficiency of our program and the lack of development , pursuit costs , expenses that we've recorded historically , I think you'll find it's a very efficient development platform .
Alan Roth: And I think if you think about the efficiency of our program and the lack of development pursuit cost expenses that we've recorded historically, I think you'll find it's a very efficient development platform.
Alan Roth: And I think if you think about the efficiency of our program and the lack of development pursuit cost expenses that we've recorded historically, I think you'll find it's a very efficient development platform.
Christy McElroy: Thank you, Alec.
Christy McElroy: Thank you, Alec.
Michael Mas: Thank you, guys.
Michael Mas: Thank you, guys.
Speaker #12: you . Thank Alex .
Speaker #16: Thank you guys .
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Speaker #4: Our next question comes from Michael Gorman with BTIG. Your line is now live.
Michael Gorman: Yeah, thanks. Just wanted to stick with capital allocation. I think it's been quite a while since Regency started a year with no assumed disposition. So I was wondering if you could just kind of update us on your thoughts on the more programmatic capital recycling out of the existing portfolio and maybe how any changes in that viewpoint fits into the funding for the development program in 2026. Thanks.
Michael Gorman: Yeah, thanks. Just wanted to stick with capital allocation. I think it's been quite a while since Regency started a year with no assumed disposition. So I was wondering if you could just kind of update us on your thoughts on the more programmatic capital recycling out of the existing portfolio and maybe how any changes in that viewpoint fits into the funding for the development program in 2026. Thanks.
Speaker #17: Yeah, thanks. Just wanted to stick with capital allocation. I think it's been quite a while since Regency started a year with no assumed dispositions.
Speaker #17: So I was wondering if you could just update us on your thoughts on the more programmatic capital recycling out of the existing portfolio, and any changes in that viewpoint as it fits into the funding for the development program. Thanks.
Lisa Palmer: Yeah, I'll take it. Our strategy has not changed over the many years that I've been here. Dispositions can and will be part of every year. We view it as a way, when we're deciding on whether to sell a property, is it something that's either non-strategic that we acquired through a portfolio, something that's non-core, or perhaps something that we believe that the future growth isn't consistent with our expectations for our portfolio? And that's how we look at it. We believe it is key to fortifying the future growth rate of the entire portfolio as a whole. There are some years where we have more. Some years we have less. Don't necessarily view it as a source of funding for our development program because our free cash flow does that.
Lisa Palmer: Yeah, I'll take it. Our strategy has not changed over the many years that I've been here. Dispositions can and will be part of every year. We view it as a way, when we're deciding on whether to sell a property, is it something that's either non-strategic that we acquired through a portfolio, something that's non-core, or perhaps something that we believe that the future growth isn't consistent with our expectations for our portfolio? And that's how we look at it. We believe it is key to fortifying the future growth rate of the entire portfolio as a whole. There are some years where we have more. Some years we have less. Don't necessarily view it as a source of funding for our development program because our free cash flow does that.
Speaker #1: I'll it
Speaker #1: take . Yeah , . Our strategy has not changed over the the many years that I've been here , dispositions can and will be part of every every year .
Speaker #1: We view it as a way when we're when we're deciding on whether to sell a property , is it something that's either non-strategic that we acquired through a portfolio , something that's non-core , or perhaps something that we don't believe , that we believe that the future growth is inconsistent with our expectations for our portfolio .
Speaker #1: And that's how we look at it . We believe it is a it is key to fortifying the future growth rate of the entire portfolio .
Speaker #1: As a whole . There are some years where we have more , some years we have less . Don't necessarily view it as a source of funding for our development program , because our free cash flow does that .
Lisa Palmer: And again, we've said that multiple times on this call, development, redevelopment, our highest priority, and we do have the capacity to fund that self-funding with our free cash flow. And we're not spending it all. We still have some more capacity to do so. And that's really how we think about it. When we do sell properties, we may sell a property as a source of funds for an acquisition. We think about it that way as we did with HAMEX. We used HAMEX, pairing it with the asset that we bought in Nashville. And again, we look at it, can we source it and fund it accretively? And that's how the decisions are made.
Lisa Palmer: And again, we've said that multiple times on this call, development, redevelopment, our highest priority, and we do have the capacity to fund that self-funding with our free cash flow. And we're not spending it all. We still have some more capacity to do so. And that's really how we think about it. When we do sell properties, we may sell a property as a source of funds for an acquisition. We think about it that way as we did with HAMEX. We used HAMEX, pairing it with the asset that we bought in Nashville. And again, we look at it, can we source it and fund it accretively? And that's how the decisions are made.
Speaker #1: And and again , we've we've we've said that multiple times on this call development Our redevelopment . highest priority . And we do have the capacity to that fund self-funding with our free cash flow .
Speaker #1: And we and we're not spending at all . We still have some more capacity to do so . And that's really how we think about it .
Speaker #1: When we do sell properties , we may sell a property sort as a source of funds for to an acquisition . We think about it that way , as we did with the with hammocks .
Speaker #1: We hammocks used pairing it with the asset that we bought in Nashville . And again , we look at it , can we can we source it and fund it a creatively .
Speaker #1: And that's how the decisions are made.
Christy McElroy: Thanks, Mike.
Christy McElroy: Thanks, Mike.
Speaker #12: Thanks , Mike .
Operator: Our next question is from Mike Mueller with J.P. Morgan. Your line is now live.
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Mike Mueller: Yeah, hi. The Crystal Park acquisition going right into redevelopment is interesting. Can you talk a little bit about what's the scope of that project? And is this just a one-off opportunity, or is it something that's going to be more of a focus on going forward?
Mike Mueller: Yeah, hi. The Crystal Park acquisition going right into redevelopment is interesting. Can you talk a little bit about what's the scope of that project? And is this just a one-off opportunity, or is it something that's going to be more of a focus on going forward?
Speaker #18: Yeah. Hi. The Crystal Book acquisition going right into redevelopment is interesting. Can you talk a little bit about what the scope of that project is?
Speaker #18: And is this just a one-off opportunity, or is it something that's going to be more of a focus going forward?
Alan Roth: Let me start with why we handled it the way we did it in our materials, and then Nick will color up the actual investment. But it's a unique opportunity, and it's not quite an acquisition, and it's not quite a ground-up development. It's very classically a redevelopment, but it's an acquired redev. We're starting the project day one. We're going to reach stabilization in what I would call a normal timeframe for a ground-up development project. And so given that the cash flows kind of resembled an investment of a development, we're going to put it right into that pipeline from day one. It won't be the same property. It won't impact the same property growth until well past stabilization. We just felt like that was the best bucket for it. Nor does its acquisition cap rate really match what you would consider a market cap rate.
Alan Roth: Let me start with why we handled it the way we did it in our materials, and then Nick will color up the actual investment. But it's a unique opportunity, and it's not quite an acquisition, and it's not quite a ground-up development. It's very classically a redevelopment, but it's an acquired redev. We're starting the project day one. We're going to reach stabilization in what I would call a normal timeframe for a ground-up development project. And so given that the cash flows kind of resembled an investment of a development, we're going to put it right into that pipeline from day one. It won't be the same property. It won't impact the same property growth until well past stabilization. We just felt like that was the best bucket for it. Nor does its acquisition cap rate really match what you would consider a market cap rate.
Speaker #3: I will let me start with why we handled it the way we did it in our in our materials . And Nick will cover up the the actual investment .
Speaker #3: But it's a unique opportunity and it's not quite an acquisition . It's not quite a ground up development . It's very , very classically a redevelopment .
Speaker #3: But it's an acquired re dev . We're starting the project day one . We're going to we're going to reach stabilization in a what I would call a normal time frame for a ground up development project .
Speaker #3: And so the given that the cash flow is kind of resembled an investment of a , of a development , we we're going to put it right into that pipeline from day one .
Speaker #3: It won't be the same property. It won't impact same property growth until well past stabilization. We just felt like that was the best bucket for it.
Speaker #3: Nor did, nor does, its acquisition cap rate really match what you would consider a market cap rate. So, putting it as an acquisition didn't feel right either.
Alan Roth: Putting it as an acquisition didn't feel right to us as well. Then Nick can speak more about the investment itself.
Alan Roth: Putting it as an acquisition didn't feel right to us as well. Then Nick can speak more about the investment itself.
Speaker #3: Right, to us as well. Can speak more about the investment itself.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Yeah, Mike, we're really excited about the investment. I mean, when you just step back and again think about our platform, we have a lot of tools in our tool belt. And so as you've heard us articulate about 30 times today, ground-up development is one of them. We can go source our own ground and build an entire shopping center, which we're very active in doing. And on the flip side, we can acquire a core asset, but then we can do everything in between. And this one is exactly in between. We found a very underutilized piece of real estate on Long Island, and we've now acquired it. But as Mike alluded, it's very much in our minds similar to a development where before we close, we've locked up an anchor tenant. It will be anchored by Whole Foods. We've fully entitled it.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: Yeah, Mike, we're really excited about the investment. I mean, when you just step back and again think about our platform, we have a lot of tools in our tool belt. And so as you've heard us articulate about 30 times today, ground-up development is one of them. We can go source our own ground and build an entire shopping center, which we're very active in doing. And on the flip side, we can acquire a core asset, but then we can do everything in between. And this one is exactly in between. We found a very underutilized piece of real estate on Long Island, and we've now acquired it. But as Mike alluded, it's very much in our minds similar to a development where before we close, we've locked up an anchor tenant. It will be anchored by Whole Foods. We've fully entitled it.
Speaker #7: Mike Yeah we're we're really excited about the investment . I mean , when you just step back and again , think about our platform , we tools in our tool belt .
Speaker #7: And have a lot of so as you've heard us articulate about 30 times today , ground up development is one of them . We can go source our own ground and build an entire shopping center , which we're very active in doing .
Speaker #7: And on the flip side, we can acquire a core asset, but then we can do everything in between. And this one is exactly in between.
Speaker #7: We found a very underutilized piece of real estate on Long Island , and we've now acquired it . But as Mike alluded , it's very much in our minds , similar to a development where before we close , we have we've locked up an anchor tenant that will be anchored by Whole Foods .
Nick Wibbenmeyer: We've got drawings in hand, and we're starting construction right away. So although we acquired it for $30 million, we do anticipate investing about the same amount of capital over the next couple of years, bringing Whole Foods and other exciting tenants online. We expect that project to stabilize similar to our ground-up developments north of a 7% return. So just a really phenomenal opportunity to, again, lean into Long Island, our Holbrook redevelopment that many of you are familiar with, ground-up development that Whole Foods is opening here shortly. Just again, success throughout the country is driving additional opportunities. This is one we're excited about, and we'll talk more about in the future.
Nick Wibbenmeyer: We've got drawings in hand, and we're starting construction right away. So although we acquired it for $30 million, we do anticipate investing about the same amount of capital over the next couple of years, bringing Whole Foods and other exciting tenants online. We expect that project to stabilize similar to our ground-up developments north of a 7% return. So just a really phenomenal opportunity to, again, lean into Long Island, our Holbrook redevelopment that many of you are familiar with, ground-up development that Whole Foods is opening here shortly. Just again, success throughout the country is driving additional opportunities. This is one we're excited about, and we'll talk more about in the future.
Speaker #7: We've fully entitled it . We've got drawings in hand , and we're starting construction right away . And so although we acquired it for $30 million , we do anticipate investing about the same amount of capital over the next couple of years , bringing Whole Foods and other exciting tenants online , and we expect that project to stabilize , similar to our ground up developments north of a 7% really just a return .
Speaker #7: And so phenomenal opportunity to again lean into Long Island , our our Holbrook redevelopment that many of you are familiar with , ground up development that Whole Foods is opening here shortly .
Speaker #7: And so, just again, success throughout the country is driving additional opportunities. And this is one we're excited about, and we'll talk more about it in the future.
Christy McElroy: Thanks, Mike.
Christy McElroy: Thanks, Mike.
Speaker #12: Thanks , Mike .
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[Analyst] (Deutsche Bank): Hi, yes. Good morning, everyone. Just curious, what comments are you hearing from your tenants just about the ongoing situation with tariffs? Again, just curious how they're factoring that into their plans going forward in terms of kind of open to buys, whether, again, some of the near-term confusion with the Supreme Court and what happens next, if that's kind of giving them any near-term trepidation about store openings. Or just kind of curious what kind of feedback you're hearing from them and how it's kind of impacting how they're thinking about their store strategies going forward.
Omotayo Okusanya: Hi, yes. Good morning, everyone. Just curious, what comments are you hearing from your tenants just about the ongoing situation with tariffs? Again, just curious how they're factoring that into their plans going forward in terms of kind of open to buys, whether, again, some of the near-term confusion with the Supreme Court and what happens next, if that's kind of giving them any near-term trepidation about store openings. Or just kind of curious what kind of feedback you're hearing from them and how it's kind of impacting how they're thinking about their store strategies going forward.
Speaker #19: Hi . Yes , good morning everyone . Just curious what commentary you're hearing from your tenants . Just about the ongoing situation with tariffs .
Speaker #19: Again , just curious how they're factoring that into their plans going forward in terms of kind of open to buys , whether , again , some of the near-term confusion with the Supreme Court and what happens next , if that's kind of giving them any near-term trepidation about store openings or just kind of curious what kind of feedback you're hearing from them and how it's impacting how they're thinking about their their store strategies going forward .
Alan Roth: Hi. Oh, good morning. Thank you for that question. So I'll start with what Lisa had previously mentioned in terms of just the portfolio being essential retail, right? So we do believe it's a bit more insulated given our tenant base. Look, I'm really proud that we have a whole lot of time-tested operators that really know how to operate and that are very agile through what could be some uncertain times with tariffs. But are we immune to it? No, we're not. But I think many of our retailers that could have exposure have been diversifying their supply chain for quite some time. So we're hearing very little, if any, in the way of any tariff impacts within our portfolio.
Alan Roth: Hi. Oh, good morning. Thank you for that question. So I'll start with what Lisa had previously mentioned in terms of just the portfolio being essential retail, right? So we do believe it's a bit more insulated given our tenant base. Look, I'm really proud that we have a whole lot of time-tested operators that really know how to operate and that are very agile through what could be some uncertain times with tariffs. But are we immune to it? No, we're not. But I think many of our retailers that could have exposure have been diversifying their supply chain for quite some time. So we're hearing very little, if any, in the way of any tariff impacts within our portfolio.
Speaker #2: Hi . Good morning . And and thank you for that question . So I'll start with with Lisa had previously mentioned in terms of just the portfolio being essential retail .
Speaker #2: Right . And so we do believe it's a bit more insulated given our tenant base . And you know , look , I'm really proud that we have a whole lot of time tested operators that really know how to operate and that are very agile through through what could be some , you know , uncertain times with tariffs .
Speaker #2: But are we immune to it ? No , we're not , but I think many of our retailers that do have could have exposure have been diversifying their supply chain for quite some time .
Speaker #2: we're And hearing very if any , in little , the way of any tariff impacts within our portfolio . One example I could give you , we had a great restaurant operator that said , you know , I used to have imported wines and specialty food on my my menu , and I'm just going to switch to local wine and I'm going to change to a more local food for better cost control .
Alan Roth: One example I could give is we had a great restaurant operator that said, "I used to have imported wines and specialty food on my menu, and I'm just going to switch to local wine, and I'm going to change to more local food for better cost control." So we're going to continue to monitor it for sure, but there's no read-through and no feedback from our retailers that the tariffs are impacting their business in any way.
Alan Roth: One example I could give is we had a great restaurant operator that said, "I used to have imported wines and specialty food on my menu, and I'm just going to switch to local wine, and I'm going to change to more local food for better cost control." So we're going to continue to monitor it for sure, but there's no read-through and no feedback from our retailers that the tariffs are impacting their business in any way.
Speaker #2: So we're going to continue to monitor it, for sure. But there's no read-through, and no feedback from our retailers that the tariffs are impacting their business in any way.
Christy McElroy: Thank you, Tyo.
Christy McElroy: Thank you, Tyo.
[Analyst] (Deutsche Bank): Thank you.
Omotayo Okusanya: Thank you.
Speaker #12: Thank you .
Speaker #19: Thank you .
Operator: Our next question is from Paulina Rojas with Green Street. Your line is now live.
Operator: Our next question is from Paulina Rojas with Green Street. Your line is now live.
Speaker #4: Our next question is from Paulina Rojas with Green Street. Your line is now live.
Paulina Rojas: Good morning. Historically, you have tended to outperform the midpoint and even the high end of same property guidance by a significant margin, actually. What would need to happen to exceed this 375% upper end this year? Where could the biggest positive surprise upside come from?
Paulina Rojas: Good morning. Historically, you have tended to outperform the midpoint and even the high end of same property guidance by a significant margin, actually. What would need to happen to exceed this 375% upper end this year? Where could the biggest positive surprise upside come from?
Speaker #20: Good morning . Historically , you have tended to outperform the midpoint and even even the high end of same property guidance a by significant margin .
Speaker #20: Actually, what would need to happen to exceed this 375% upper end this year? Where could the biggest, where could a positive surprise, an upside, come from?
Alan Roth: Hey, Paulina. It's Mike. Appreciate the question. You're right. In our recent history, we have had a track record of more material outperformance. And I think it goes back to my comments on the more material changes that are occurring in the portfolio from a commenced occupancy rate. At the end of the day, that's going to be the biggest lever from an internal growth perspective is what changes in commenced occupancy. We talked a little bit about our base case outlook for the year being flat to slightly positive on that front. So I think my comment would be the opportunity set within internal growth is less than it has been. We're going to keep leaning on renewal rates. As I said, we're going to move commenced occupancy up. Where we fall on ULI, it would be another factor.
Michael Mas: Hey, Paulina. It's Mike. Appreciate the question. You're right. In our recent history, we have had a track record of more material outperformance. And I think it goes back to my comments on the more material changes that are occurring in the portfolio from a commenced occupancy rate. At the end of the day, that's going to be the biggest lever from an internal growth perspective is what changes in commenced occupancy. We talked a little bit about our base case outlook for the year being flat to slightly positive on that front. So I think my comment would be the opportunity set within internal growth is less than it has been. We're going to keep leaning on renewal rates. As I said, we're going to move commenced occupancy up. Where we fall on ULI, it would be another factor.
Speaker #3: Hey , Paulina , it's Mike . I appreciate the question . You're right . In our recent history , we have had a a track record of more material outperformance .
Speaker #3: And I think it goes back to my comments on the more material changes that are occurring in the portfolio from a commenced occupancy rate.
Speaker #3: At the end of the day , that that's going to be the biggest lever from an internal growth perspective is how what changes in commenced occupancy .
Speaker #3: We talked a little bit about our base case outlook for the year being , you know , you know , flat to slightly positive on that front .
Speaker #3: So, I think my comment would be the opportunity set within internal growth is a little less than it has been. We're going to keep leaning on renewal rates.
Speaker #3: As I said , we're going to move commenced occupancy up where we fall on Uli . It would be another factor . You know , we planning for are a more more of a historically average year , slightly below historical averages , where it when in fact 25 was materially below historical averages .
Alan Roth: We are planning for more of a historically average year, slightly below historical averages, when in fact, 25 was materially below historical averages. If we extend that to earnings, the factors that could move us to the upper end and potentially beyond would include cap allocation. We talked a little bit about today. We don't guide on speculative acquisitions. To the extent we find those opportunities and we find high-quality properties that are accretive to our cost capital, we'll take advantage of them, and that would be additive to our outlook for the year.
Michael Mas: We are planning for more of a historically average year, slightly below historical averages, when in fact, 25 was materially below historical averages. If we extend that to earnings, the factors that could move us to the upper end and potentially beyond would include cap allocation. We talked a little bit about today. We don't guide on speculative acquisitions. To the extent we find those opportunities and we find high-quality properties that are accretive to our cost capital, we'll take advantage of them, and that would be additive to our outlook for the year.
Speaker #3: If we extend that to earnings, then the factors that could move us to the upper end, and potentially beyond, would include cap allocation.
Speaker #3: And we talked a little bit about today. We don't guide on speculative acquisitions. To the extent we find those opportunities and we find high quality properties that are accretive to our cost of capital, we'll take advantage of them.
Speaker #3: And that would be additive to our outlook for the year.
Christy McElroy: Thanks, Paulina.
Christy McElroy: Thanks, Paulina.
Speaker #12: Thanks , Paulina .
Operator: We have reached the end of the question and answer session. I'd like to turn the call back to Lisa Palmer for closing comments.
Operator: We have reached the end of the question and answer session. I'd like to turn the call back to Lisa Palmer for closing comments.
Speaker #4: We have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the call back to Lisa Palmer for closing comments.
Lisa Palmer: Thank you, Rob. Appreciate that. First, I want to just one last shout-out to every Regency team member that's listening for a fantastic year. Really grateful. And then secondly, thank you all for your time and interest in Regency, and we'll see you all soon. Have a great weekend.
Lisa Palmer: Thank you, Rob. Appreciate that. First, I want to just one last shout-out to every Regency team member that's listening for a fantastic year. Really grateful. And then secondly, thank you all for your time and interest in Regency, and we'll see you all soon. Have a great weekend.
Speaker #1: Thank you . Rob , appreciate that . First , I want to just one last shout out to every team member that's listening for a for a fantastic year .
Speaker #1: Really grateful, and thank you for your time and interest in Regency. Thank you all, and secondly, we'll see you all soon. Have a great weekend.
Operator: This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and we thank you for your participation.
Operator: This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and we thank you for your participation.