Q3 2026 SailPoint Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Thank you for standing by, and welcome to SailPoint's third quarter fiscal year 2026 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.
Operator: Thank you for standing by, and welcome to SailPoint's Q3, FY26 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press *11 on your telephone. To remove yourself from the queue, you may press *11 again. I would now like to hand the call over to Scott Schmitz, VP of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you for standing by, and welcome to SailPoint's Q3, FY26 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press *11 on your telephone. To remove yourself from the queue, you may press *11 again. I would now like to hand the call over to Scott Schmitz, VP of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: After the speaker presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone.
Speaker #1: To remove yourself from the queue, you may press *11 again. I would now like to hand the call over to Scott Schmitz, VP of Investor Relations.
Speaker #1: Please go ahead.
Scott Schmitz: Good morning, and thank you for joining us today to discuss SailPoint's Q3 2026 financial results. Joining me today are SailPoint's founder and CEO, Mark McClain, and our Chief Financial Officer, Brian Carolan. For the Q&A portion of today's call, we will also be joined by our President, Matt Mills. Please note that today's call will include forward-looking statements, and because these statements are based on the company's current intent, expectations, and projections, they are not guarantees of future performance, and a variety of factors could cause actual results to differ materially. This call will also include references to non-GAAP results, which exclude certain items that do not reflect our underlying business performance. Please reference this morning's press release and our supplemental earnings presentation posted on investors.sailpoint.com for further information regarding our forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial measures, including reconciliations to the nearest comparable GAAP financial measures.
Scott Schmitz: Good morning, and thank you for joining us today to discuss SailPoint's Q3 2026 financial results. Joining me today are SailPoint's founder and CEO, Mark McClain, and our Chief Financial Officer, Brian Carolan. For the Q&A portion of today's call, we will also be joined by our President, Matt Mills. Please note that today's call will include forward-looking statements, and because these statements are based on the company's current intent, expectations, and projections, they are not guarantees of future performance, and a variety of factors could cause actual results to differ materially.
Speaker #2: and thank you for joining us today to discuss SailPoint's fiscal third quarter Good morning, results. Joining me today are SailPoint's founder and CEO, Mark McClain, and our Chief Financial Officer, Brian Carolan.
Speaker #2: For the Q&A portion of today's call, we will also be joined by our President, Matt Mills. Please note that today's call will include forward-looking statements and, because these statements are based on the company's current intent, expectations, and projections, they are not guarantees of future performance and the variety of factors could cause actual results to differ materially.
This call will also include references to non-GAAP results, which exclude certain items that do not reflect our underlying business performance. Please reference this morning's press release and our supplemental earnings presentation posted on investors.sailpoint.com for further information regarding our forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial measures, including reconciliations to the nearest comparable GAAP financial measures.
Speaker #2: This call will also include references to non-GAAP results, which exclude certain items that do not reflect performance. Please reference this morning's press release and our supplemental earnings presentation posted on investors.sailpoint.com for further information regarding our non-GAAP financial measures including our underlying business forward-looking statements and reconciliations to the nearest comparable GAAP financial measures.
Speaker #2: And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to
Scott Schmitz: With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Mark.
With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Mark.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Scott. Good morning,
Mark McClain: Thank you, Scott. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. We're thrilled to share our most recent quarterly results that include a significant milestone for the company. In Q3, 2026, we surpassed $1 billion in annual recurring revenue, or ARR. With this exciting milestone, I wanted to use today's call to emphasize three key themes. First, our reimagination of identity security. Second, our accelerated pace of innovation. And third, our confidence as we look ahead to Q4 and beyond. Let me start with the broader transformation happening in identity security. The market is moving beyond static, compliance-first approaches toward real-time, adaptive identity, an approach we were one of the first to champion. By unifying identity, data, and security intelligence with the SailPoint platform, we're helping organizations gain the visibility, control, and scale needed to defend against an ever-expanding threat landscape in real time.
Mark McClain: Thank you, Scott. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. We're thrilled to share our most recent quarterly results that include a significant milestone for the company. In Q3, 2026, we surpassed $1 billion in annual recurring revenue, or ARR. With this exciting milestone, I wanted to use today's call to emphasize three key themes. First, our reimagination of identity security. Second, our accelerated pace of innovation.
Speaker #3: Everyone, thank you for joining us today. We're thrilled to share our most recent quarterly results, which include a significant milestone, Mark, for the company.
Speaker #3: In fiscal Q3 '26, we surpassed $1 billion in Annual Recurring Revenue, or ARR. With this exciting milestone, I wanted to use today's call to emphasize three key themes.
Speaker #3: First, our reimagination of identity security. Second, our accelerated pace of innovation. And third, our confidence as we look ahead to Q4 and beyond. Let me start with the broader transformation happening in identity security.
And third, our confidence as we look ahead to Q4 and beyond. Let me start with the broader transformation happening in identity security. The market is moving beyond static, compliance-first approaches toward real-time, adaptive identity, an approach we were one of the first to champion. By unifying identity, data, and security intelligence with the SailPoint platform, we're helping organizations gain the visibility, control, and scale needed to defend against an ever-expanding threat landscape in real time.
Speaker #3: The market is moving beyond static, compliance-first approaches toward real-time, adaptive identity—an approach we were one of the first to champion. By unifying identity, data, and security intelligence with the SailPoint platform, we're helping organizations gain the visibility, control, and scale needed to defend against an ever-expanding threat landscape in real time.
Speaker #3: We believe our Q3 results validate that strategy, reflecting our disciplined execution, the impact of sustained innovation, and the accelerating demand for identity security as the control point for enterprise security.
Mark McClain: We believe our Q3 results validate that strategy, reflecting our disciplined execution, the impact of sustained innovation, and the accelerating demand for identity security as the control point for enterprise security. This leads to my second theme, innovation. Our newer product introductions continue to drive strong interest, fueling our robust cross-sell growth. Customers see clear value in how these capabilities extend the reach and intelligence of identity across their enterprises. This is especially true of our SailPoint machine identity solution, which remains our fastest-growing launch to date. We also just completed our largest-ever global user conference series called Navigate, where we unveiled a family of innovations that together represent what we believe to be the most significant product launch in our company's history.
We believe our Q3 results validate that strategy, reflecting our disciplined execution, the impact of sustained innovation, and the accelerating demand for identity security as the control point for enterprise security. This leads to my second theme, innovation. Our newer product introductions continue to drive strong interest, fueling our robust cross-sell growth.
Speaker #3: This leads to my second theme: innovation. Our newer product introductions continue to drive strong interest, fueling our robust cross-sell growth. Customers see clear value in how these capabilities extend the reach and intelligence of identity across their enterprises.
Customers see clear value in how these capabilities extend the reach and intelligence of identity across their enterprises. This is especially true of our SailPoint machine identity solution, which remains our fastest-growing launch to date. We also just completed our largest-ever global user conference series called Navigate, where we unveiled a family of innovations that together represent what we believe to be the most significant product launch in our company's history.
Speaker #3: This is especially true of our SailPoint machine identity solution, which remains our fastest-growing launch to date. We also just completed our largest ever global user conference series, called Navigate, where we unveiled a family of innovations that together represent what we believe to be the most significant product launch in our company's history.
Speaker #3: These innovations center on four key themes: real-time identity governance, expanded protection for digital identities like agents and machines, a universal and dynamic approach to privilege, and deeper integration of identity intelligence into the Security Operations Center, or SOC.
Mark McClain: These innovations center on four key themes: real-time identity governance, expanded protection for digital identities like agents and machines, a universal and dynamic approach to privilege, and deeper integration of identity intelligence into the Security Operations Center, or SOC. All of this uses our Atlas platform as the foundation. The response has been immediate and extremely positive. Customers have confirmed that these innovations bring our real-time adaptive identity vision to life in a way they have been waiting for. The early momentum we're seeing across products signals that organizations are adopting this vision quickly and with conviction.
These innovations center on four key themes: real-time identity governance, expanded protection for digital identities like agents and machines, a universal and dynamic approach to privilege, and deeper integration of identity intelligence into the Security Operations Center, or SOC. All of this uses our Atlas platform as the foundation.
Speaker #3: All of this uses our Atlas platform as the foundation. The response has been immediate and extremely positive. Customers have confirmed that these innovations bring our real-time adaptive identity vision to life, in a way they have been waiting for.
The response has been immediate and extremely positive. Customers have confirmed that these innovations bring our real-time adaptive identity vision to life in a way they have been waiting for. The early momentum we're seeing across products signals that organizations are adopting this vision quickly and with conviction.
Speaker #3: The early momentum we're seeing across products signals that organizations are adopting this vision quickly and with conviction. A few areas in which we're seeing particularly strong interest include SailPoint agent identity security, for deeply managing the exploding landscape of agent identities.
Mark McClain: A few areas in which we're seeing particularly strong interest include SailPoint Agent Identity Security for deeply managing the exploding landscape of agent identities, SailPoint Accelerated Application Management for helping enterprises quickly onboard the hundreds or thousands of applications they use and to put strong governance controls around them, and SailPoint Observability and Insights for delivering real-time identity intelligence, stitching together signals from across the IT ecosystem to reveal hidden risks while strengthening security for all identity types. Importantly, this wave of customer interest and adoption is reinforcing the strategic path we've been driving for years. Gartner's 2025 market guide for IGA validated what we've long believed: that identity is no longer a compliance checkbox; it's a critical control for securing the modern enterprise. The industry is only beginning to recognize this shift, but our customers are already benefiting from innovations we've built on this very premise.
A few areas in which we're seeing particularly strong interest include SailPoint Agent Identity Security for deeply managing the exploding landscape of agent identities, SailPoint Accelerated Application Management for helping enterprises quickly onboard the hundreds or thousands of applications they use and to put strong governance controls around them, and SailPoint Observability and Insights for delivering real-time identity intelligence, stitching together signals from across the IT ecosystem to reveal hidden risks while strengthening security for all identity types.
Speaker #3: SailPoint accelerated application management for helping enterprises quickly onboard the hundreds or thousands of applications they use and to put strong governance controls around them.
Speaker #3: And SailPoint observability and insights, for delivering real-time identity intelligence, stitching together signals from across the IT ecosystem to reveal hidden risks, while strengthening security for all identity types.
Speaker #3: Importantly, this wave of customer interest and adoption is reinforcing the strategic path we've been driving for years. Gartner's 2025 Market Guide for long believed.
Importantly, this wave of customer interest and adoption is reinforcing the strategic path we've been driving for years. Gartner's 2025 market guide for IGA validated what we've long believed: that identity is no longer a compliance checkbox; it's a critical control for securing the modern enterprise. The industry is only beginning to recognize this shift, but our customers are already benefiting from innovations we've built on this very premise.
Speaker #3: That identity is no longer a compliance checkbox; it's a critical control for securing the modern enterprise. The industry is only beginning to recognize this, and customers are already benefiting from innovations we've built on this very premise.
Speaker #3: As we continue expanding our family of identity security recognize this shift, but our solutions, we're also evolving how customers can acquire and adopt that innovation.
Mark McClain: As we continue expanding our family of identity security solutions, we're also evolving how customers can acquire and adopt that innovation. We recently introduced our new Flex licensing model that is designed to meet customers where they are, not only in their identity journey, but in how they prefer to buy and deploy our solutions. With digital identity surging, customers need the ability to take advantage of new capabilities quickly and efficiently. Our Flex licensing model is built for exactly that, giving organizations more choice, more flexibility, and a clear path to adopt the innovations we're bringing to market at the pace that makes sense for them. Another growth driver this quarter is the ongoing opportunity to help our IdentityIQ customers migrate to SailPoint Identity Security Cloud. These migrations are not only modernizing their environments but also strengthening their long-term alignment with our platform.
As we continue expanding our family of identity security solutions, we're also evolving how customers can acquire and adopt that innovation. We recently introduced our new Flex licensing model that is designed to meet customers where they are, not only in their identity journey, but in how they prefer to buy and deploy our solutions. With digital identity surging, customers need the ability to take advantage of new capabilities quickly and efficiently.
Speaker #3: We recently introduced our new Flex licensing model that is are, not only in their identity journey, but in how they prefer to buy and deploy our designed to meet customers where they solutions.
Speaker #3: With digital identity advantage of new capabilities surging, customers need the ability to take quickly and efficiently. Our Flex licensing model is built for exactly that, giving organizations more choice, more flexibility, and a clear path to adopt the innovations we're bringing to market at the pace that makes sense for them.
Our Flex licensing model is built for exactly that, giving organizations more choice, more flexibility, and a clear path to adopt the innovations we're bringing to market at the pace that makes sense for them. Another growth driver this quarter is the ongoing opportunity to help our IdentityIQ customers migrate to SailPoint Identity Security Cloud. These migrations are not only modernizing their environments but also strengthening their long-term alignment with our platform.
Speaker #3: Another growth driver this quarter is the ongoing opportunity to help our IdentityIQ customers migrate to SailPoint Identity Security Cloud. These migrations are not only modernizing their environments, but also strengthening their long-term alignment with our platform.
Speaker #3: For example, one of the largest US-based logistics and shipping providers is migrating to SailPoint identity security cloud. As part of this migration effort, they also added SailPoint machine identity security choosing SailPoint for our scalable, automated, and intelligent approach to identity security.
Mark McClain: For example, one of the largest US-based logistics and shipping providers is migrating to SailPoint Identity Security Cloud. As part of this migration effort, they also added SailPoint Machine Identity Security, choosing SailPoint for our scalable, automated, and intelligent approach to identity security. With Identity Security Cloud, they will be able to support a large and growing number of digital identities and applications, giving them a clear path to expand into Agent Identity Security and other areas like identity threat detection. Organizations are making these modernization moves because they know we can scale with them as their journey evolves. At the same time, customers are strengthening their investment with us as their identity and digital landscapes continue to expand. In the number and variety of identities they manage and in the volume of applications, systems, and data those identities need to access, our Q3 results reflect this trend.
For example, one of the largest US-based logistics and shipping providers is migrating to SailPoint Identity Security Cloud. As part of this migration effort, they also added SailPoint Machine Identity Security, choosing SailPoint for our scalable, automated, and intelligent approach to identity security. With Identity Security Cloud, they will be able to support a large and growing number of digital identities and applications, giving them a clear path to expand into Agent Identity Security and other areas like identity threat detection.
Speaker #3: With Identity Security Cloud, they will be able to support a large and growing number of digital identities and applications, giving them a clear path to expand into agent identity security and other areas like identity threat detection.
Organizations are making these modernization moves because they know we can scale with them as their journey evolves. At the same time, customers are strengthening their investment with us as their identity and digital landscapes continue to expand. In the number and variety of identities they manage and in the volume of applications, systems, and data those identities need to access, our Q3 results reflect this trend.
Speaker #3: Organizations are making these modernization moves because they know we can scale with them as their journey evolves. At the same time, customers are strengthening their investment with us as their identity and digital landscapes continue to expand.
Speaker #3: In the number and variety of identities they manage, and in the volume of applications, systems, and data those identities need to access. Our Q3 results reflect this trend.
Speaker #3: We believe this is a clear sign of the trust customers place in SailPoint to secure their
Mark McClain: We believe this is a clear sign of the trust customers place in SailPoint to secure their rapidly growing identity surface. As just one example of this expansion trend, a large energy and utility company experienced such a successful migration to Identity Security Cloud that they significantly extended their investment with us, adding SailPoint Machine Identity Security, SailPoint Agent Identity Security, SailPoint Observability and Insights, SailPoint Accelerated Application Management, and Atlas Enterprise, all through our Flex licensing model. This combination of new product offerings, attracting new customers, and our existing customers expanding with us shows the strength and balance in our business model. It also underscores our clear differentiation, the breadth of identities we protect, and the depth of context we provide. The SailPoint platform delivers adaptive identity by unifying identity, data, and security intelligence in real time.
We believe this is a clear sign of the trust customers place in SailPoint to secure their rapidly growing identity surface. As just one example of this expansion trend, a large energy and utility company experienced such a successful migration to Identity Security Cloud that they significantly extended their investment with us, adding SailPoint Machine Identity Security, SailPoint Agent Identity Security, SailPoint Observability and Insights, SailPoint Accelerated Application Management, and Atlas Enterprise, all through our Flex licensing model.
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Speaker #1: This combination of new offerings attracting new customers and our product customers expanding with us shows the strength in our business model. It also underscores our clear differentiation.
This combination of new product offerings, attracting new customers, and our existing customers expanding with us shows the strength and balance in our business model. It also underscores our clear differentiation, the breadth of identities we protect, and the depth of context we provide. The SailPoint platform delivers adaptive identity by unifying identity, data, and security intelligence in real time.
Speaker #1: The breadth of identities we protect and the depth of services we provide. The context delivers platform-adaptive identity by unifying identity data and security intelligence in real time.
Speaker #1: The also platform enables organizations to continuously adjust access and security decisions on based risk business dynamics . We believe this is combination unmatched in the today , and it's why market customers continue to choose Sailpoint and to grow with over us time .
Mark McClain: The platform also enables organizations to continuously adjust access and security decisions based on risk and business dynamics. We believe this combination is unmatched in the market today, and it's why customers continue to choose SailPoint and to grow with us over time. And finally, it's never been easier to deploy with SailPoint. We understand that innovation only matters if customers can quickly realize its benefits, which is why we're focused on simplifying deployment and accelerating time to value across our new solutions. The recent introduction of SailPoint Accelerated Application Management allows customers to intelligently discover and onboard all, not some, but all of their applications for immediate governance. Our digital agent, HarborPilot, further simplifies the administration of identity programs through natural language prompts, and our partner ecosystem is leveraging AI to streamline and accelerate application onboarding, expediting time to value for our joint customers.
The platform also enables organizations to continuously adjust access and security decisions based on risk and business dynamics. We believe this combination is unmatched in the market today, and it's why customers continue to choose SailPoint and to grow with us over time. And finally, it's never been easier to deploy with SailPoint. We understand that innovation only matters if customers can quickly realize its benefits, which is why we're focused on simplifying deployment and accelerating time to value across our new solutions.
Speaker #1: And finally , it's never been easier to deploy with Sailpoint . We understand that innovation matters only if customers can quickly realize its benefits , which is why we're focused on simplifying deployment and accelerating time to value across our new solutions .
Speaker #1: The recent introduction of Accelerated Application SailPoint Management allows customers to intelligently discover and onboard all, not some, but all of their applications for immediate use.
The recent introduction of SailPoint Accelerated Application Management allows customers to intelligently discover and onboard all, not some, but all of their applications for immediate governance. Our digital agent, HarborPilot, further simplifies the administration of identity programs through natural language prompts, and our partner ecosystem is leveraging AI to streamline and accelerate application onboarding, expediting time to value for our joint customers.
Speaker #1: Our digital governance agent , Harbor Pilot further simplifies the administration of identity programs through natural language prompts partner , and our ecosystem is leveraging AI to accelerate streamline and application , expediting value for time to our joint customers .
Speaker #1: Taken onboarding together, results speak to a company executing with focus, delivering for customers. Today, we are positioning ourselves next for the stage of growth.
Mark McClain: Taken together, our results speak to a company executing with focus, delivering value for customers today while positioning ourselves for the next stage of growth. This brings me to my third theme, confidence. Just as important as what we achieved in Q3 is what it signals about the path ahead. Our pipeline remains strong and diversified, and we continue to see strong engagement across both new and existing customers. As the attack surface expands and agent-based threats accelerate, organizations are turning to SailPoint faster than ever. Our most recent Horizons of Identity report underscores why. The majority of enterprises are still early in their identity maturity in Horizons 1 or 2, and moving forward requires stronger agent management and a unified identity data model. We believe we are uniquely positioned to help them advance.
Taken together, our results speak to a company executing with focus, delivering value for customers today while positioning ourselves for the next stage of growth. This brings me to my third theme, confidence. Just as important as what we achieved in Q3 is what it signals about the path ahead. Our pipeline remains strong and diversified, and we continue to see strong engagement across both new and existing customers.
Speaker #1: brings This me to my third theme confidence . Just as important as what we achieved in Q3 is value for what it signals about the path ahead .
Speaker #1: Our pipeline remains and diversified , and we continue to see strong engagement across strong new both and existing customers . As the attack surface expands , an agent based threats accelerate .
Speaker #1: Organizations are turning to faster than sailpoint ever . Our most recent horizons of Identity report underscores why the majority of enterprises are early in their still identity , in maturity horizons 1 or 2 , and moving requires forward stronger agent management and a unified data identity We we are believe uniquely positioned to help them model .
As the attack surface expands and agent-based threats accelerate, organizations are turning to SailPoint faster than ever. Our most recent Horizons of Identity report underscores why. The majority of enterprises are still early in their identity maturity in Horizons 1 or 2, and moving forward requires stronger agent management and a unified identity data model. We believe we are uniquely positioned to help them advance.
Speaker #1: advance . While we're focused on finishing the year strong , we're equally committed building for the long term to . Our strategy is grounded in what we has always set Sailpoint apart .
Mark McClain: While we're focused on finishing the year strong, we're equally committed to building for the long term. Our strategy is grounded in what we believe has always set SailPoint apart: the depth of identity context we deliver and the breadth of identities we protect. With governance at our core, our platform provides a level of precision and granularity that we believe others cannot replicate. It's also what enables us to expand the definition of identity security and support an adaptive identity model that protects enterprises efficiently and effectively in an increasingly dynamic environment. As an independent player in a market more recently defined by consolidation and bundled point solutions, SailPoint is emerging as a strategic identity layer in the security landscape with a common cross-vendor fabric that delivers clarity and context across all security signals.
While we're focused on finishing the year strong, we're equally committed to building for the long term. Our strategy is grounded in what we believe has always set SailPoint apart: the depth of identity context we deliver and the breadth of identities we protect. With governance at our core, our platform provides a level of precision and granularity that we believe others cannot replicate.
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Speaker #1: It enables us to expand the definition of identity and security and supports an adaptive identity model that protects enterprises efficiently and effectively in an increasingly dynamic environment.
It's also what enables us to expand the definition of identity security and support an adaptive identity model that protects enterprises efficiently and effectively in an increasingly dynamic environment. As an independent player in a market more recently defined by consolidation and bundled point solutions, SailPoint is emerging as a strategic identity layer in the security landscape with a common cross-vendor fabric that delive
Speaker #1: As a player in a market independent and recently defined by consolidation and bundled point solutions, SailPoint is emerging as a strategic identity in the layer of security with a landscape cross-vendor: a common fabric that delivers clarity and context across security signals.
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Mark McClain: To that end, we're continually investing in innovation that continues to push the boundary of modern identity security: more intelligence, more automation, and deeper connectivity that embeds identity context across the security ecosystem. As identity becomes the control center of enterprise security, SailPoint is defining and leading a new era for the industry. I want to thank our customers for their trust, our partners for their collaboration, and our employees for their incredible commitment and execution as we continue driving this mission forward. With that, I'll hand it over to our CFO, Brian Carolan, to walk through the financials in more detail. Brian? Thank you, Mark, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. As Mark noted, this quarter, we surpassed $1 billion in ARR, closing fiscal Q3 at $1.04 billion, representing a 28% year-over-year increase.
To that end, we're continually investing in innovation that continues to push the boundary of modern identity security: more intelligence, more automation, and deeper connectivity that embeds identity context across the security ecosystem. As identity becomes the control center of enterprise security, SailPoint is defining and leading a new era for the industry.
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I want to thank our customers for their trust, our partners for their collaboration, and our employees for their incredible commitment and execution as we continue driving this mission forward. With that, I'll hand it over to our CFO, Brian Carolan, to walk through the financials in more detail. Brian?
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Brian Carolan: Thank you, Mark, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. As Mark noted, this quarter, we surpassed $1 billion in ARR, closing fiscal Q3 at $1.04 billion, representing a 28% year-over-year increase.
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Mark McClain: SaaS ARR grew 38% year-over-year and now stands at $669 million, representing 64% of total ARR. The consistency of our growth at scale is something we believe few in the cybersecurity market have been able to accomplish. This quarter, the durability of our growth was once again due to many drivers across both new and existing customers. The strength was also broad-based across geographies and industry verticals. We were especially encouraged by the strong initial interest in the new products we introduced at our Navigate conference. In fact, we booked orders for each newly available product despite only being generally available for one month. The demand behind these new offerings is contributing to the healthy expansion of our pipeline. Overall, we experienced strong growth in our cross-sell motion driven by our non-employee risk management, machine identity security, and data access security solutions, which collectively more than doubled in ARR year-over-year.
SaaS ARR grew 38% year-over-year and now stands at $669 million, representing 64% of total ARR. The consistency of our growth at scale is something we believe few in the cybersecurity market have been able to accomplish. This quarter, the durability of our growth was once again due to many drivers across both new and existing customers. The strength was also broad-based across geographies and industry verticals.
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We were especially encouraged by the strong initial interest in the new products we introduced at our Navigate conference. In fact, we booked orders for each newly available product despite only being generally available for one month. The demand behind these new offerings is contributing to the healthy expansion of our pipeline. Overall, we experienced strong growth in our cross-sell motion driven by our non-employee risk management, machine identity security, and data access security solutions, which collectively more than doubled in ARR year-over-year.
Speaker #2: The demand behind these new offerings is contributing to the healthy expansion of our pipeline . available Overall , we experienced strong growth in our cross-sell , Motian driven by our non-employee risk management , machine identity , security and data access security solutions , collectively more than RR year over year .
Speaker #2: The demand behind these new offerings is contributing to the healthy expansion of our pipeline . available Overall , we experienced strong growth in our cross-sell , Motian driven by our non-employee risk management , machine identity , security and data access security solutions , collectively more than RR year over year doubled in noted , we also had a strong quarter we refer to as modernizations .
Mark McClain: As Mark noted, we also had a strong migration quarter, which we refer to as platform modernizations. The strength of our platform and ability to govern and secure all identities from human to machine to AI agents has led enterprises to conclude that now is the time to modernize their environment. It's also worth noting that more than half of our platform modernizations included at least one of our emerging cross-sell products, and with our new Flex licensing model, we are making it simpler for customers to adopt and deploy our platform and future innovations. Additionally, we continue to see a shift towards our most fully featured Business Plus suite, which accounts for more than half of our suite-based ARR. The combination of strong suite-based adoption, cross-sell expansion, identity upsell, and platform modernizations demonstrates customer alignment with our strategic vision of adaptive identity security.
As Mark noted, we also had a strong migration quarter, which we refer to as platform modernizations. The strength of our platform and ability to govern and secure all identities from human to machine to AI agents has led enterprises to conclude that now is the time to modernize their environment. It's also worth noting that more than half of our platform modernizations included at least one of our emerging cross-sell products, and with our new Flex licensing model, we are making it simpler for customers to adopt and deploy our platform and future innovations.
Speaker #2: The strength of our platform, from human to machine to AI agents, has led enterprises to conclude that now is the time to modernize.
Speaker #2: It's also worth noting that more than half of our platform environment modernizations included at time to least one of our emerging products . And with our new flex licensing model , we are making it simpler for customers cross-sell and deploy our platform and future innovations .
Speaker #2: Additionally, we continue to see a shift as we fully feature most Plus business, which accounts for more than half of our suite-based offerings.
Additionally, we continue to see a shift towards our most fully featured Business Plus suite, which accounts for more than half of our suite-based ARR. The combination of strong suite-based adoption, cross-sell expansion, identity upsell, and platform modernizations demonstrates customer alignment with our strategic vision of adaptive identity security.
Speaker #2: The of strong suite based adoption , cross-sell expansion , identity IRR modernizations demonstrates customer alignment with our strategic of adaptive identity vision security .
Speaker #2: These expansion motions contributed to our net revenue retention or NRI , of 114% . This . Moving on to the quarter PNL fiscal Q3 , we delivered 26 , revenue of $282 million , an increase in over year , with 20% year subscription revenue growing On top growth in the year ago period .
Mark McClain: These expansion motions contributed to our net revenue retention, or NRR, of 114% this quarter. Moving on to the P&L. In fiscal Q3 2026, we delivered revenue of $282 million and an increase of 20% year-over-year, with subscription revenue growing 22% on top of strong growth in the year-ago period. We remain committed to driving top-line growth through investments in our partner ecosystem and product innovations to extend our position as a market leader, all while delivering results in a responsible manner. In the third quarter, we delivered adjusted operating income of $56 million, or a 19.8% margin, well above our guidance, driven by higher term subscription revenue and disciplined expense management. We generated cash flow from operating activities of $54 million and free cash flow of $49 million, or a 17.4% free cash flow margin, which reflects our robust growth profile. Turning now to guidance.
These expansion motions contributed to our net revenue retention, or NRR, of 114% this quarter. Moving on to the P&L. In fiscal Q3 2026, we delivered revenue of $282 million and an increase of 20% year-over-year, with subscription revenue growing 22% on top of strong growth in the year-ago period. We remain committed to driving top-line growth through investments in our partner ecosystem and product innovations to extend our position as a market leader, all while delivering results in a responsible manner.
Speaker #2: We remain committed to a top line growth of 22%. Strong growth through investments in our partner ecosystem and product innovations to extend our position as a leader, all while delivering market results in a responsible manner.
Speaker #2: In the third quarter , we delivered adjusted operating income $56 million , results in a well above our of higher term subscription , driven by disciplined expense management .
In the third quarter, we delivered adjusted operating income of $56 million, or a 19.8% margin, well above our guidance, driven by higher term subscription revenue and disciplined expense management. We generated cash flow from operating activities of $54 million and free cash flow of $49 million, or a 17.4% free cash flow margin, which reflects our robust growth profile. Turning now to guidance.
Speaker #2: We generated cash flow from operating revenue activities of $54 million and free flow or of $49 million , flow margin , which cash reflects our robust growth profile 17.4% free cash .
Speaker #2: Turning now to guidance for simplicity , refer to the midpoint of our I will guidance ranges , where applicable . Full details can be morning's press release and this earnings deck found in For the .
Mark McClain: For simplicity, I will refer to the midpoint of our guidance ranges where applicable. Full details can be found in this morning's press release and supplemental earnings deck. For the fiscal fourth quarter and full year 2026, we are increasing our ARR guidance by $12 million to $1.122 billion, up 28% year-over-year. From a net new ARR perspective, this implies $82 million, or 30% growth for the fiscal fourth quarter, and $245 million, or 26% growth for the fiscal year 2026. As it relates to our revenue guidance, we expect to deliver $292 million in fiscal Q4 2026, an increase of 22% year-over-year, with adjusted operating margin of 20.2% and adjusted EPS of $0.09. For fiscal year 2026, this translates to revenue of $1.069 billion, an increase of 24% year-over-year, with adjusted operating margin of 18% and adjusted EPS of $0.23.
For simplicity, I will refer to the midpoint of our guidance ranges where applicable. Full details can be found in this morning's press release and supplemental earnings deck. For the fiscal fourth quarter and full year 2026, we are increasing our ARR guidance by $12 million to $1.122 billion, up 28% year-over-year. From a net new ARR perspective, this implies $82 million, or 30% growth for the fiscal fourth quarter, and $245 million, or 26% growth for the fiscal year 2026.
Speaker #2: fourth quarter and full year 2026 . We are increasing our guidance by $12 million to RR $1.122 billion , 28% year up over year from a net new RR perspective .
Speaker #2: This implies $82 million, or 30% growth for the fiscal fourth quarter, and $245 million, or 26% growth for the year 2026.
Speaker #2: As it relates to our revenue guidance , expect to deliver we fiscal Q4 26 , $292 million in increase of 22% year over year .
As it relates to our revenue guidance, we expect to deliver $292 million in fiscal Q4 2026, an increase of 22% year-over-year, with adjusted operating margin of 20.2% and adjusted EPS of $0.09. For fiscal year 2026, this translates to revenue of $1.069 billion, an increase of 24% year-over-year, with adjusted operating margin of 18% and adjusted EPS of $0.23.
Speaker #2: With adjusted an operating margin of 20.2% and adjusted EPs For fiscal year 2026 . This translates to revenue of $1.069 billion , an increase of 24% year over year , with of $0.09 .
Speaker #2: of $0.23 . We expect our diluted share count to be approximately 565 million shares . In summary , we are confident in our strategic direction and our teams demonstrated ability to execute our strong results , underscored by our increased guidance quarterly , reflect the inherent market position and continued product innovation strength of remain committed to driving profitable growth , and we are our optimistic about our .
Mark McClain: We expect our diluted share count to be approximately 565 million shares. In summary, we are confident in our strategic direction and our team's demonstrated ability to execute. Our strong quarterly results, underscored by our increased guidance, reflect the inherent strength of our market position and continued product innovation. We remain committed to driving durable, profitable growth, and we are optimistic about our ability to deliver significant long-term value to our shareholders. With a well-defined roadmap, an exceptionally talented team, and an expanding market opportunity with multiple growth drivers, we believe we are well-positioned for continued success. With that, let's invite Matt Mills, our president, to join us and open the call for questions. Operator? Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone. To remove yourself from the queue, you may press star 11 again.
We expect our diluted share count to be approximately 565 million shares. In summary, we are confident in our strategic direction and our team's demonstrated ability to execute. Our strong quarterly results, underscored by our increased guidance, reflect the inherent strength of our market position and continued product innovation.
We remain committed to driving durable, profitable growth, and we are optimistic about our ability to deliver significant long-term value to our shareholders. With a well-defined roadmap, an exceptionally talented team, and an expanding market opportunity with multiple growth drivers, we believe we are well-positioned for continued success. With that, let's invite Matt Mills, our president, to join us and open the call for questions. Operator?
Speaker #2: value durable , to our deliver shareholders with a well-defined roadmap and talented team and exceptionally expanding market opportunity with multiple drivers . We believe we are well positioned for continued success .
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Mark McClain: Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up to allow everyone the opportunity to participate. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Joseph Gallo of Jefferies. Your line is open, Joseph. Hey, guys. Thanks for the question and congrats on the $1 billion ARR milestone. That's a huge achievement. Obviously, agentic security will benefit your existing customers first, but can you just talk about the top-of-funnel pipeline with new logos? I mean, IGA has been around for a while, but there's a huge opportunity there. Is agentic forcing people to re-examine their human identities as well? Thanks, Joseph. Mark. And I just, as we got into the question and answer time, I did want to thank everybody for joining us today and also look forward to seeing many of you tomorrow at the Barclays conference out in San Francisco.
Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up to allow everyone the opportunity to participate. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Joseph Gallo of Jefferies. Your line is open, Joseph.
Speaker #3: line is open . We Joseph .
Speaker #4: thanks for And the question . congrats on the 1 billion IRR milestone . That's a huge achievement . Obviously , Agentic
Joseph Gallo: Hey, guys. Thanks for the question and congrats on the $1 billion ARR milestone. That's a huge achievement. Obviously, agentic security will benefit your existing customers first, but can you just talk about the top-of-funnel pipeline with new logos? I mean, IGA has been around for a while, but there's a huge opportunity there. Is agentic forcing people to re-examine their human identities as well?
Speaker #4: benefit your Hey guys , existing security will customers first , but can you just talk about the top of funnel with new logos ?
Speaker #4: I mean , IGA has been around for a while , but there's a huge opportunity . There is forcing reexamine their human agentic well identities as people to .
Speaker #1: Thanks , pipeline Mark , and I . Just as we got into the time , I did want to question and answer everybody for Joe .
Mark McClain: Thanks, Joseph. Mark. And I just, as we got into the question and answer time, I did want to thank everybody for joining us today and also look forward to seeing many of you tomorrow at the Barclays conference out in San Francisco.
Speaker #1: joining us today . And thank also look forward to seeing many tomorrow of you at the Barclays conference out in San Francisco . But with that , I'll probably pass that one straight to Matt , because in terms of the seeing out in demand landscape , out in the customer , both new both customers that are in the process of looking at our broader IGA offering , as well existing customers who are pretty as excited about what's happening with Matt .
Mark McClain: But with that, I'll probably pass that one straight to Matt because in terms of what we're seeing out in the demand landscape out in the customer, both new customers that are in the process of looking at our broader IGA offering as well as existing customers who are pretty excited about what's happening with agentic. So Matt, you can take it. Yeah. Thanks, Mark. Hi, Joe. Look, I think you're thinking about the right way, that install base and then the greenfield. And I think there's a consistent thread in all of that as folks are starting to move into this, and that is how much. How much do I need to get started? There's a certain amount. Still, people really don't know. And so that's one of the reasons. I don't know if you saw it yesterday. We announced our Flex pricing, the Digital Identity Flex pricing models.
But with that, I'll probably pass that one straight to Matt because in terms of what we're seeing out in the demand landscape out in the customer, both new customers that are in the process of looking at our broader IGA offering as well as existing customers who are pretty excited about what's happening with agentic. So Matt, you can take it.
Speaker #5: Yeah . Thanks , Mark This is Joe . Look , I think you're thinking about the right way . That base , install then and the greenfield .
Matt Mills: Yeah. Thanks, Mark. Hi, Joe. Look, I think you're thinking about the right way, that install base and then the greenfield. And I think there's a consistent thread in all of that as folks are starting to move into this, and that is how much. How much do I need to get started? There's a certain amount. Still, people really don't know. And so that's one of the reasons. I don't know if you saw it yesterday. We announced our Flex pricing, the Digital Identity Flex pricing models.
Speaker #5: And I think there's a consistent thread in all of that . As folks are starting to move into this . And that is how much how much do I need to get started ?
Speaker #5: There's amount of of still , you a certain don't people really know . And and so that's one of the reasons , I don't know if you saw it yesterday we announced our pricing .
Speaker #5: The flex navigator flex pricing models . And actually one of them is Digital called the Identity Flex . And it allows companies to get into this at a really nominal Right .
Mark McClain: One of them is actually called the Digital Identity Flex. It allows companies to get into this at a really nominal rate, right, and then start growing into it from there. I think that's going to help accelerate a ton of interest because that's been one of the long poles in the tent, if you will. When you look at our greenfield proposals and things that are going out, look, I don't know that one's going out that doesn't have AI in it. So, again, I think this is going to accelerate all of that because with these Flex models now, no longer do we have to spend a ton of time trying to figure out exactly how many people need to be able to get started. We remain hugely upbeat.
One of them is actually called the Digital Identity Flex. It allows companies to get into this at a really nominal rate, right, and then start growing into it from there. I think that's going to help accelerate a ton of interest because that's been one of the long poles in the tent, if you will. When you look at our greenfield proposals and things that are going out, look, I don't know that one's going out that doesn't have AI in it.
Speaker #5: And then start growing into it from there. I think that's going to help a ton of interest. That's been one of the long poles in the tent, if you will.
Speaker #5: And then start growing into it from there . I think that's going to help ton of interest , that's been because one of the long poles in accelerate a When you look at our Greenfield proposals and things that are going look , I don't of know that one's going out that doesn't rate .
Speaker #5: it so . And again , I think this is going to with these flex that now have no longer do we have to spend a ton of time trying to figure out because accelerate all of many people need to be able to started .
So, again, I think this is going to accelerate all of that because with these Flex models now, no longer do we have to spend a ton of time trying to figure out exactly how many people need to be able to get started. We remain hugely upbeat.
Mark McClain: I think the field is hugely excited about this announcement we made yesterday with these Flex Navigators. Awesome. Thank you. And just as a follow-up, Brian, you've done a tremendous job with ARR beat and raises. I just wanted to double-click on Q4. I mean, you beat the first two quarters of the year by 2%, approximately 1% this past quarter. Q4 appears to be a modest acceleration in new business for ARR. I know there's moving parts, but just anything that we should think about, whether it was slip deals, FX, or anything else, just to gain comfort in the ramp into Q4. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks, Joe. Yes, I think you're right. I mean, I think we feel really good about the overall health of the business. We've been public for three quarters now. We've met or exceeded all guided metrics heading into Q4.
I think the field is hugely excited about this announcement we made yesterday with these Flex Navigators.
Speaker #4: Thank you . And then just
Joseph Gallo: Awesome. Thank you. And just as a follow-up, Brian, you've done a tremendous job with ARR beat and raises. I just wanted to double-click on Q4. I mean, you beat the first two quarters of the year by 2%, approximately 1% this past quarter. Q4 appears to be a modest acceleration in new business for ARR. I know there's moving parts, but just anything that we should think about, whether it was slip deals, FX, or anything else, just to gain comfort in the ramp into Q4. Thank you.
Speaker #4: just wanted I to double click on for Q I mean beat the two quarters of the first year by approximately 1% this past quarter .
Speaker #4: 2% , For Q appears to be a modest acceleration in new business for IRR parts , but there's just anything that should think about , whether it we deals , was slip or anything else just to gain .
Speaker #4: In comfort ramping into Q3. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Yeah .
Speaker #2: Thanks , Joe . . Yes , I think you're right . I mean , I think we feel really the good about overall health of the business .
Brian Carolan: Yeah. Thanks, Joe. Yes, I think you're right. I mean, I think we feel really good about the overall health of the business. We've been public for three quarters now. We've met or exceeded all guided metrics heading into Q4.
Speaker #2: exceeded all guided metrics heading into Q4 . We of confidence . I wouldn't read anything deals into slip whatsoever . I think this is have a lot
Mark McClain: We have a lot of confidence. I wouldn't read anything in slip deals whatsoever. I think this is a typical fourth quarter for us. We feel really good about where we stand right now with the pipeline. If you step back and look at the linearity of the fiscal year, Q4 will represent about 1/3 of our total year-net new ARR, so very consistent with prior two fiscal years. I would say that, again, we feel really good heading into it. Great to hear. Thank you. As a reminder to ask a question, press star 11. Again, we remind you to limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Our next question comes from the line of Rob Owens of Piper. Your question, please, Rob. Great. Good morning, guys, and thank you for taking my question.
We have a lot of confidence. I wouldn't read anything in slip deals whatsoever. I think this is a typical fourth quarter for us. We feel really good about where we stand right now with the pipeline. If you step back and look at the linearity of the fiscal year, Q4 will represent about 1/3 of our total year-net new ARR, so very consistent with prior two fiscal years. I would say that, again, we feel really good heading into it.
Joseph Gallo: Great to hear. Thank you.
Operator: As a reminder to ask a question, press star 11. Again, we remind you to limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Our next question comes from the line of Rob Owens of Piper. Your question, please, Rob.
Speaker #6: , guys , and thank you for taking my question . Mark , you talked a little bit in prepared your remarks about this market defined by consolidation of is a point solutions .
Rob Owens: Great. Good morning, guys, and thank you for taking my question.
Speaker #6: And I'd hit on the just like to consolidation theme , especially as we've seen a lot of adjacent vendors . Now to look starting at the the IGA market .
Mark McClain: Mark, you talked a little bit in your prepared remarks about this is a market defined by consolidation of point solutions. I'd just like to hit on the consolidation theme, especially as we've seen a lot of adjacent vendors now starting to look at the IGA market. So I realize this has been relatively recent, but any market confusion from your sense, number one, and number two, maybe remind us why SailPoint has such a differentiated and defensible solution over the long run as some of these other larger tech bellwethers start to play in IGA. Thanks. Yeah. Thanks, Rob. Good info from you. A couple of comments. Fortunately for us, this is a consistent message. If you even go back to our IPO roadshow messaging, we talked quite a bit at that time about what we thought was a pretty defensible moat around breadth and depth.
Mark, you talked a little bit in your prepared remarks about this is a market defined by consolidation of point solutions. I'd just like to hit on the consolidation theme, especially as we've seen a lot of adjacent vendors now starting to look at the IGA market. So I realize this has been relatively recent, but any market confusion from your sense, number one, and number two, maybe remind us why SailPoint has such a differentiated and defensible solution over the long run as some of these other larger tech bellwethers start to play in IGA. Thanks.
Speaker #6: So I realize this has been relatively recent , but any market from from confusion has Sailpoint rewind us . such a and your defensible solution over the run of long these some of other larger tech bellwethers start to to play in IGA .
Speaker #6: Thanks .
Speaker #1: Yeah . Thanks , Rob . Good to from you . A couple of differentiated and fortunately for us this is a consistent message .
Speaker #1: even go If you back to our IPO roadshow messaging , we talked quite a bit at that time about what we thought was a pretty defensible moat around breadth and depth .
Mark McClain: Yeah. Thanks, Rob. Good info from you. A couple of comments. Fortunately for us, this is a consistent message. If you even go back to our IPO roadshow messaging, we talked quite a bit at that time about what we thought was a pretty defensible moat around breadth and depth.
Speaker #1: just to And define those terms a little bit , right breadth being range the and scale of identity types . You know , obviously evolved through the we've years from employees to to non-employees now flavors of non-human machines .
Mark McClain: Just to define those terms a little bit, right, breadth being the range and scale of identity types. Obviously, we've evolved through the years from employees to non-employees to now two big flavors of non-human kind of machines, bots, and service accounts, etc., and now agents. That breadth is certainly something that we've proven that we can handle at scale. But probably what gets lost sometimes is the importance of the depth of what we can do for that breadth of identities. That gets into these detailed entitlements. What we're finding is as others are jumping into this game, as you say, Rob, there's a lot of movement, either building and/or buying into the IGA space from folks that have been near us and even folks that have been a little further away in the security landscape.
Just to define those terms a little bit, right, breadth being the range and scale of identity types. Obviously, we've evolved through the years from employees to non-employees to now two big flavors of non-human kind of machines, bots, and service accounts, etc., and now agents. That breadth is certainly something that we've proven that we can handle at scale.
Speaker #1: bots You know , and service accounts , etc. . And now agents breadth . certainly And that something that proven can handle at scale .
Speaker #1: But probably what gets lost we've that gets identities . And into these detailed entitlements . And what we're finding is , as jumping others are into this you say , Rob , there's game , as a lot of or sometimes into space IGA from been near a little us and that have been even folks that have further away in the depth of security What they're I think , all , landscape .
But probably what gets lost sometimes is the importance of the depth of what we can do for that breadth of identities. That gets into these detailed entitlements. What we're finding is as others are jumping into this game, as you say, Rob, there's a lot of movement, either building and/or buying into the IGA space from folks that have been near us and even folks that have been a little further away in the security landscape.
Speaker #1: struggle going to handling those is two things There are together . from the people coming access landscape that have tons is solutions breadth of typically volume , built on of have little depth .
Mark McClain: What they're all, I think, going to struggle with is handling those two things together. There are people coming from the access landscape that have tons of breadth of volume, but typically solutions built on that base have very little depth. They're basically login-focused and very rarely can get into the detailed entitlement structure, particularly of older bespoke applications, which are very prevalent in large enterprises today. On the other side of people coming from, say, the privileged landscape that certainly have demonstrated an ability to go deep, their challenge is going broad because typically they're managing a very limited number of identities in any given part of an enterprise, those kind of permanently privileged static privileges like database admins and sysadmins.
What they're all, I think, going to struggle with is handling those two things together. There are people coming from the access landscape that have tons of breadth of volume, but typically solutions built on that base have very little depth. They're basically login-focused and very rarely can get into the detailed entitlement structure, particularly of older bespoke applications, which are very prevalent in large enterprises today.
Speaker #1: very They're basically log and very rarely can get into detailed entitlement structure , particularly of older but bespoke applications , which are prevalent in large And enterprises very side , if today .
Speaker #1: people on the other from , say , the landscape , privileged that certainly demonstrated an to go have base deep . Their challenge the is going broad because are typically they managing a very limited focused identities in any given part of an enterprise .
On the other side of people coming from, say, the privileged landscape that certainly have demonstrated an ability to go deep, their challenge is going broad because typically they're managing a very limited number of identities in any given part of an enterprise, those kind of permanently privileged static privileges like database admins and sysadmins.
Speaker #1: Those kind of permanently privileged , static privileges , like database admins and sysadmins . So taken it's that together , ability to a very start from rich base of breadth and depth .
Speaker #1: then And rapidly expand on both vectors . You know , expanding into this rapidly exploding landscape of machines and and non-humans and agents , while continuing invest .
Mark McClain: So taken together, it's that ability to start from a very rich base of breadth and depth and then rapidly expand on both vectors, expanding into this rapidly exploding landscape of machines, non-humans, and agents while continuing to invest, and, we think, a fairly defensible moat. We know of startups that are out in the market with sub-100 deep complex integrations into applications, and we are in the tens of thousands now. So that is a fairly significant gap from some of those companies' current offerings to our offerings. So I think we feel quite good that while people are making a lot of noise and it's easy to make a lot of claims about entering this marketplace, doing the hard work of really digging into these landscapes of these complex enterprises is very challenging.
So taken together, it's that ability to start from a very rich base of breadth and depth and then rapidly expand on both vectors, expanding into this rapidly exploding landscape of machines, non-humans, and agents while continuing to invest, and, we think, a fairly defensible moat. We know of startups that are out in the market with sub-100 deep complex integrations into applications, and we are in the tens of thousands now.
Speaker #1: we think And a fairly defensible moat . We know of market startups that are out in the with complex sub integrations . And are in the And we applications .
Speaker #1: of thousands tens So that is fairly a significant gap from some of those companies now . current offerings to our offerings . So I think we lot of and it's feel making a people are quite good easy to that while claims of make a lot about entering this marketplace , doing the hard noise work of really digging into these landscapes , of these complex enterprises is very And I challenging .
So that is a fairly significant gap from some of those companies' current offerings to our offerings. So I think we feel quite good that while people are making a lot of noise and it's easy to make a lot of claims about entering this marketplace, doing the hard work of really digging into these landscapes of these complex enterprises is very challenging.
Speaker #1: think we're starting to see some acknowledgement from some of of that the folks around us .
Speaker #6: Great. Thanks for the color.
Mark McClain: I think we're starting to see some acknowledgment of that from some of the folks around us. Great. Thanks for the color. Thank you. And again, ladies and gentlemen, in the interest of time, we ask that you limit yourself to one question. Our next question comes from the line of Gray Powell with BTIG. Your question, please, Gray. Great. Thanks for taking the question. Yeah. So can you talk about the Savvy acquisition that you announced back in August? And I think that underpins the accelerated application management product. So just how does that impact a customer's time to get up and running on SailPoint? Are there any finer points you can give there? And then to the extent that it's easing friction, is that something that can help you move down market? Hi, Gray. It's Mark. I'll take the beginning of that.
I think we're starting to see some acknowledgment of that from some of the folks around us.
Rob Owens: Great. Thanks for the color.
Speaker #3: Thank you . And again , ladies and gentlemen , in the interest of time , we ask that you limit yourself to one question .
Operator: Thank you. And again, ladies and gentlemen, in the interest of time, we ask that you limit yourself to one question. Our next question comes from the line of Gray Powell with BTIG. Your question, please, Gray.
Speaker #3: Our next question comes from the line of Gray Powell with BTIG. Please go ahead, Gray.
Speaker #7: Thanks for Great . thanks for taking the question
Speaker #7: . Yeah . So can you talk about the savvy acquisition that you announced back in August ? And I think that underpins the accelerate accelerated Application Management product .
Gray Powell: Great. Thanks for taking the question. Yeah. So can you talk about the Savvy acquisition that you announced back in August? And I think that underpins the accelerated application management product. So just how does that impact a customer's time to get up and running on SailPoint? Are there any finer points you can give there? And then to the extent that it's easing friction, is that something that can help you move down market?
Speaker #7: And then to the you can it's easing friction , is that something that can help Your you move down market ?
Speaker #1: Hi , Grace . Mark , I'll take the beginning of probably pass that . I'll it for a little more depth than Matt , because he's dug in now with some of the customers that are looking closer at that .
Mark McClain: Hi, Gray. It's Mark. I'll take the beginning of that.
Speaker #1: yeah , we are But really pleased to to find savvy out there . We've in the known of them market , and what they had is some pretty slick , I think that's not a but pretty slick technology for discovering applications as as they're coming technical term , through the front end , through the browsers and know , we've result , you now to had confidence say to customers , Chandra made this point and as a navigate conference that we believe confidently we effectively all of their discover applications in a relatively short timeframe .
Mark McClain: I'll probably pass it for a little more depth to Matt because he's dug in now with some of the customers that are looking closer at that. But yeah, we are really pleased to find Savvy out there. We'd known of them in the market. And what they had is some pretty slick, I think that's not a technical term, but pretty slick technology for discovering applications as they're coming through the front end, through the browsers. And as a result, we've had confidence now to stand up and say to customers, Chandra made this point at our Navigate conference, that we believe confidently we can discover effectively all of their applications in a relatively short timeframe. But that's what we call tier one. In other words, understanding those applications are out there and exist.
I'll probably pass it for a little more depth to Matt because he's dug in now with some of the customers that are looking closer at that. But yeah, we are really pleased to find Savvy out there. We'd known of them in the market. And what they had is some pretty slick, I think that's not a technical term, but pretty slick technology for discovering applications as they're coming through the front end, through the browsers.
And as a result, we've had confidence now to stand up and say to customers, Chandra made this point at our Navigate conference, that we believe confidently we can discover effectively all of their applications in a relatively short timeframe. But that's what we call tier one. In other words, understanding those applications are out there and exist.
Speaker #1: But what we that's call tier words , understanding those applications are out there and one . exist . And when In other others have been claiming , oh , we're can faster and better than sailpoint , it's like , well , they're just claiming they can get visibility .
Speaker #1: We then define tier two as the ability to kind of rich compliance and understanding how to authenticate , you know , authenticate who has , you access and sure that's audited and compliant .
Mark McClain: And when others have been claiming, "Oh, we're faster and better than SailPoint," it's like, "Well, they're just claiming they can get visibility." We then define tier two as the ability to do kind of rich compliance and understanding how to authenticate who has access and then make sure that's audited and compliant. And the most deep and challenging level we call tier three applications where we can get into automated provisioning lifecycle management where changes are made automatically by SailPoint based on changes in the environment. Well, when you get into those tier two and tier three applications, it's much, again, much bigger moat technically for what it means to get into that realm.
And when others have been claiming, "Oh, we're faster and better than SailPoint," it's like, "Well, they're just claiming they can get visibility." We then define tier two as the ability to do kind of rich compliance and understanding how to authenticate who has access and then make sure that's audited and compliant.
Speaker #1: the most and And deep challenging level . We call tier three applications where we can get into automated lifecycle provisioning , management , where changes are made automatically by sailpoint based on changes in the environment .
And the most deep and challenging level we call tier three applications where we can get into automated provisioning lifecycle management where changes are made automatically by SailPoint based on changes in the environment. Well, when you get into those tier two and tier three applications, it's much, again, much bigger moat technically for what it means to get into that realm.
Speaker #1: Well , when you get into those tier two and tier three applications , it's much , again , much bigger moat technically for what it means to get into that realm .
Speaker #1: But we're savvy . And now our our Sams and accelerated Application Management Sailpoint accelerate application management solution comes in is to help us get that broad , broad coverage very then go from there into rapidly and the depth as customers required in their environments .
Mark McClain: But where Savvy and now our SAM accelerated application management, SailPoint Accelerated Application Management solution, comes in is to help us get that broad coverage very rapidly, and then go from there into the depth as customers required in their environments. Matt, what are you seeing kind of in the demand out there in the customers? Well, look, I think this has been something that our competitors have effectively used against us for some time. And so now we have this Savvy tool, which, as Mark said, we marketed as SAM, is now available. And I think there's a couple of things. When you look at these tier ones, right, typically it's like, "I just want to be aware." And you can get a little bit of detail around it like users and maybe a basic level of entitlement. But with our SAM solution, you can also categorize.
But where Savvy and now our SAM accelerated application management, SailPoint Accelerated Application Management solution, comes in is to help us get that broad coverage very rapidly, and then go from there into the depth as customers required in their environments. Matt, what are you seeing kind of in the demand out there in the customers?
Speaker #1: Matt , what are you seeing kind of in the demand out there in the customers ?
Speaker #5: Well , look , I think this has been something that our competitors have know . You , effectively used for some against us time .
Matt Mills: Well, look, I think this has been something that our competitors have effectively used against us for some time. And so now we have this Savvy tool, which, as Mark said, we marketed as SAM, is now available. And I think there's a couple of things. When you look at these tier ones, right, typically it's like, "I just want to be aware." And you can get a little bit of detail around it like users and maybe a basic level of entitlement. But with our SAM solution, you can also categorize.
Speaker #5: And so now we have this , this savvy tool , which , as Mark said , if we market it as Sam is now available and I there's a couple think of things , when you look at these tier ones , right .
Speaker #5: These typically I just want to be aware you can get a little bit of detail around it, like users and basic level of entitlement.
Speaker #5: it's like , But with our savvy Sam solution , you can also categorize . So now these companies will be able to say how many of these applications are actually using And I agents .
Speaker #5: a really , really thing because all of a sudden now when you big realize that of your thousand applications , 900 of them are actually using these , these agents that maybe are getting from a service Salesforce.com , you're going to something other right have to do now , be aware .
Mark McClain: So now these companies will be able to say, "How many of these applications are actually using agents?" I think that's a really, really big thing because all of a sudden now when you realize that of your 1,000 applications, 900 of them are actually using these agents that maybe you're getting from a ServiceNow or Salesforce, right? Now you're going to have to do something other than just be aware. You're probably going to want to go up to this tier two level that Mark was talking about. All of a sudden, the stakes just got really significantly bigger for everybody trying to get there. So we think our tool here is going to continue to allow us to get to this security around and governance around these applications much quicker than anybody else.
So now these companies will be able to say, "How many of these applications are actually using agents?" I think that's a really, really big thing because all of a sudden now when you realize that of your 1,000 applications, 900 of them are actually using these agents that maybe you're getting from a ServiceNow or Salesforce, right?
Speaker #5: than just You're service want to go probably going to up to was talking level . That Mark And all of about . a this the stakes just sudden got really significantly bigger for everybody trying to get there .
Now you're going to have to do something other than just be aware. You're probably going to want to go up to this tier two level that Mark was talking about. All of a sudden, the stakes just got really significantly bigger for everybody trying to get there. So we think our tool here is going to continue to allow us to get to this security around and governance around these applications much quicker than anybody else.
Speaker #5: So we think our tool here is going to continue to allow us to , to to get to this , this security around in governance , around these , these applications much quicker than anybody tier two else .
Speaker #5: So think you're be fair , basically going to see on every gray , this do . To deal we very priced it we reasonably that everybody can so actually use it because we think it's a big differentiator .
Mark McClain: So I think you're going to see this basically on every deal we do, to be fair, Gray. We price it very reasonably so that everybody can actually use it because we think it's a big differentiator. One last comment to add there, Gray, that is that this is part of this fundamental evolution of this space from kind of a compliance audit focus, which came out of Sarbanes-Oxley and where big companies would really only govern deeply a small handful of applications because those are the ones they had to audit. As we move toward truly securing these applications, that's why we have to get visibility and control over basically the majority, if not effectively all apps, and then go deep into deep governance and deep compliance on the ones where the customer says, "That's really important to me.
So I think you're going to see this basically on every deal we do, to be fair, Gray. We price it very reasonably so that everybody can actually use it because we think it's a big differentiator.
Speaker #1: Well , one last comment and they're is that , great . you know , this is That part of this fundamental evolution of this space from kind of a compliance audit focus , which came out of Sarbanes-Oxley .
Mark McClain: One last comment to add there, Gray, that is that this is part of this fundamental evolution of this space from kind of a compliance audit focus, which came out of Sarbanes-Oxley and where big companies would really only govern deeply a small handful of applications because those are the ones they had to audit.
Speaker #1: And we're big companies would really only govern A deeply . small handful of applications , because those are the audit . As we moved had to toward ones they these securing applications .
Speaker #1: That's why we have to get visibility and over basically the majority , if not effectively . All apps and then go deep into control deep governance and deep compliance ones where the customer says , that's really important to me .
As we move toward truly securing these applications, that's why we have to get visibility and control over basically the majority, if not effectively all apps, and then go deep into deep governance and deep compliance on the ones where the customer says, "That's really important to me.
Speaker #1: I want to maintain much stricter control over those, and it's important to understand the breadth of the flexibility to landscape and then go deep into various apps.
Mark McClain: I want to maintain much more strict controls over those." And it's that flexibility to understand the breadth of the landscape and then go deep into various apps. Again, I think others are going to have a lot of struggles to kind of catch up to where we are today after a couple of decades of going deep in many, many of these complex applications. Got it. That was really helpful. Thanks for the detail and congratulations on the strong results. Thanks, Gray. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Shaul Eyal of TD Cowen. Please go ahead, Shaul. Thank you. Good morning, everybody. Congrats on the set of results. My question is about operating expenses. You guys are doing a great job. Talk to us about the internal usage of AI to also take advantage of some of these opportunities and curb costs. Thank you.
I want to maintain much more strict controls over those." And it's that flexibility to understand the breadth of the landscape and then go deep into various apps. Again, I think others are going to have a lot of struggles to kind of catch up to where we are today after a couple of decades of going deep in many, many of these complex applications.
Speaker #1: Again , I think to have a lot of struggles to kind of catch up to where we are today . After a couple of decades of going deep in many , many of these complex applications others are going .
Speaker #7: Got it . That was Thanks for the really helpful . detail and congratulations on the strong the on results .
Gray Powell: Got it. That was really helpful. Thanks for the detail and congratulations on the strong results.
Speaker #5: Thanks , Craig .
Speaker #3: Thank you . Our next question comes line of from the Sean of TD Cohen . Please go ahead . Your .
Mark McClain: Thanks, Gray.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Shaul Eyal of TD Cowen. Please go ahead, Shaul.
Speaker #8: Thank you . Good morning everybody . Congrats on the set of results . My question about is operating expenses . You guys are doing a great job .
Shaul Eyal: Thank you. Good morning, everybody. Congrats on the set of results. My question is about operating expenses. You guys are doing a great job. Talk to us about the internal usage of AI to also take advantage of some of these opportunities and curb costs. Thank you.
Speaker #8: Talk to us about the internal usage of AI to also take advantage of some of these opportunities and curb cost . Thank you .
Speaker #2: Hi . Brian here . Thanks for the question . So we are embracing AI internally . You know we use this as a existential competitive advantage as It's well in terms of the tools that we're exploring all across aspects of the business from product development to go to market to internal G&A functions .
Mark McClain: Hi, Shaul. It's Brian here. Thanks for the question. So we are embracing AI internally. We use this as an existential competitive advantage as well in terms of the tools that we're exploring across all aspects of the business, from product development to go-to-market, and to internal G&A functions. Really exciting stuff. I think that we're still, as with many companies, in the early stages of it, but we are really excited about the use case possibilities, and we're starting to see some payback on that. Many thanks. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Peter Levine of Evercore. Your line is open, Peter. Great. Thank you, guys, and congrats on the quarter. Maybe for Mark or Matt, as you look at traditional PAM vendors. They emphasize bolting, session recording. How do you articulate SailPoint's competitive moat as you kind of move towards this new-gen PAM?
Brian Carolan: Hi, Shaul. It's Brian here. Thanks for the question. So we are embracing AI internally. We use this as an existential competitive advantage as well in terms of the tools that we're exploring across all aspects of the business, from product development to go-to-market, and to internal G&A functions. Really exciting stuff. I think that we're still, as with many companies, in the early stages of it, but we are really excited about the use case possibilities, and we're starting to see some payback on that.
Speaker #2: Really exciting I think stuff . that , you know , we're still , many companies in the early it stages of , but we are really excited about the use case possibilities , and we're to see some some payback on starting that .
Speaker #2: .
Speaker #8: thanks Many .
Shaul Eyal: Many thanks.
Speaker #3: Thank you . Our next question comes from the line of Peter Levine of Evercore . Your line is open . Peter .
Brian Carolan: Thank you.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Peter Levine of. Your line is open, Peter.
Speaker #9: Great . Thank you guys . And I'm on the quarter . Maybe one mark or Matt is you know , you look at traditional Tam vendors , you know , they emphasize bolting session recording .
Peter Levine: Great. Thank you, guys, and congrats on the quarter. Maybe for Mark or Matt, as you look at traditional PAM vendors. They emphasize bolting, session recording. How do you articulate SailPoint's competitive moat as you kind of move towards this new-gen PAM?
Speaker #9: How do you articulate sale points . Competitive moat as you kind of towards move this gen new PM . How do customers how do customers still view privileging through that kind of legacy legacy lens ?
Mark McClain: How do customers still view privileging through that kind of legacy lens? And then kind of what's your pitch to them? And then one for Brian. Brian, on the new kind of, call it not the pricing model, but if you think about the Flex model, maybe walk us through the margin impact, the pricing model. How does that work? And should we expect any kind of variations or seasonality in the model going forward as this starts to ramp up? Thank you. I guess I'll start with the privilege. Matt may make a comment or two. Then I'll flip to Brian for the Flex pricing. Peter, I guess on the first point, yeah, one of the things we like to say is it's not that that use case, that traditional PAM use case is going away. It's not.
How do customers still view privileging through that kind of legacy lens? And then kind of what's your pitch to them? And then one for Brian. Brian, on the new kind of, call it not the pricing model, but if you think about the Flex model, maybe walk us through the margin impact, the pricing model. How does that work? And should we expect any kind of variations or seasonality in the model going forward as this starts to ramp up? Thank you.
Speaker #9: And then what's kind of what's your pitch to them ? And then one for Brian . Brian . On the new kind on the it not the pricing model .
Speaker #9: But if you think about the flexing model , maybe walk us through like the impact , the pricing margin model , how does that work ?
Speaker #9: And should we expect kind of variations or seasonality in the model going forward as this starts to ramp up ? Thank you . any
Speaker #1: start with the I privilege . And Matt , may make a comment or two to Brian for the flex pricing . Peter , I guess on the first point , yeah , one of the things we like to say is it's not that that use case that traditional Pam use case is going away .
Mark McClain: I guess I'll start with the privilege. Matt may make a comment or two. Then I'll flip to Brian for the Flex pricing. Peter, I guess on the first point, yeah, one of the things we like to say is it's not that that use case, that traditional PAM use case is going away. It's not.
Speaker #1: It's not; it's just going to represent an increasingly smaller part of the challenge that customers are wrestling with. Because even the folks at Palo, who obviously did the cyber acquisition, are making pretty public comments now about the challenge of taking what they've done traditionally across that limited set of permanently static users and making privileged users privileged.
Mark McClain: It's just going to represent an increasingly smaller part of the challenge that customers are wrestling with because even the folks at Palo Alto who obviously did the cyber acquisition are making pretty public comments now about the challenge of now taking what they've done traditionally across that limited set of permanently static privileged users and making privilege. I think they've used the word dynamic or something like that. We've used the word democratizing privilege. The concepts are the same. The idea that over time, every identity, human or non-human, may have reasons to be treated as a privileged account, and that can basically be flexed up and flexed down. Not flex pricing, sorry. I don't want to confuse you with that term, but the level of privilege might flex up or flex down.
It's just going to represent an increasingly smaller part of the challenge that customers are wrestling with because even the folks at Palo Alto who obviously did the cyber acquisition are making pretty public comments now about the challenge of now taking what they've done traditionally across that limited set of permanently static privileged users and making privilege. I think they've used the word dynamic or something like that.
Speaker #1: I think I've used the word 'democratizing' over every time. The privilege that may be treated as a non-human identity the same. There may be reasons to have it recognized as a privileged account.
We've used the word democratizing privilege. The concepts are the same. The idea that over time, every identity, human or non-human, may have reasons to be treated as a privileged account, and that can basically be flexed up and flexed down. Not flex pricing, sorry. I don't want to confuse you with that term, but the level of privilege might flex up or flex down.
Speaker #1: And that can basically be flexed up and not dynamic or flex flexed down , pricing . Sorry , I don't want to confuse you with that term , but but the level privilege might flex up or flex of down .
Speaker #1: And as a result , it's that challenge again of broad understanding of that deep , you know , entitlement landscape so you can make choices based on having that context .
Mark McClain: And as a result, it's that challenge again of having that broad understanding of that deep entitlement landscape so you can make choices based on context is going to start to become a big word here. Not just the who/what is accessing what information, but from where, at what time, with what intent. That's going to be another concept we'll be talking more about, particularly with agents. What is the intent this agent has in accessing information? And does that seem typical or expected? And if so, great. If not, I'm going to escalate the privilege required to get to that in very real time. And a dynamic Just-in-Time kind of notion there.
And as a result, it's that challenge again of having that broad understanding of that deep entitlement landscape so you can make choices based on context is going to start to become a big word here. Not just the who/what is accessing what information, but from where, at what time, with what intent.
Speaker #1: It's going to start to big word here , not just the who slash what is accessing what information , but from where at what time through with what intent .
Speaker #1: That's going another to be concept we'll be talking more about is particularly with agents , what is the intent agent has this accessing information and does that seem or expected .
That's going to be another concept we'll be talking more about, particularly with agents. What is the intent this agent has in accessing information? And does that seem typical or expected? And if so, great. If not, I'm going to escalate the privilege required to get to that in very real time. And a dynamic Just-in-Time kind of notion there.
Speaker #1: typical so , great . And If not , I'm going to escalate the privilege required to get to that in time . In very real a dynamic just in time kind of notion there .
Speaker #1: this idea So that privilege become will ubiquitous flexible is quite different from the technology and that was required to build in static privilege of a with a kind permanent safe vault of these these kind of checked out and checked credentials that were in for very important use cases like such .
Mark McClain: So this idea that privilege will become ubiquitous and flexible is quite different from the technology that was required to build static privilege with a kind of a permanent safe vault of these credentials that were kind of checked out and checked in for very important use cases like database administrators and such. So it's not that that isn't an important part of securing the environment. It still is, right? But we believe that the next wave is going to be far more about this broad-based, ubiquitous, dynamic privilege. And with all due respect, the folks that have come from PAM don't have any particular advantage at solving that problem versus folks like SailPoint who come from a broad and deep understanding of the entitlement landscape. So that's why we think we're well-positioned to handle that.
So this idea that privilege will become ubiquitous and flexible is quite different from the technology that was required to build static privilege with a kind of a permanent safe vault of these credentials that were kind of checked out and checked in for very important use cases like database administrators and such. So it's not that that isn't an important part of securing the environment. It still is, right?
Speaker #1: administrators and database So it's not that that isn't an important part of securing the environment . It still is . Right . But what we believe that the next wave is going to be far this more about broad based , ubiquitous dynamic And privilege .
But we believe that the next wave is going to be far more about this broad-based, ubiquitous, dynamic privilege. And with all due respect, the folks that have come from PAM don't have any particular advantage at solving that problem versus folks like SailPoint who come from a broad and deep understanding of the entitlement landscape. So that's why we think we're well-positioned to handle that.
Speaker #1: with all due respect , the folks that have come from Pam don't have any particular advantage at solving that problem versus folks like who come from a broad and deep understanding of the entitlement landscape .
Speaker #1: So that's why we think we're well positioned to handle that .
Speaker #2: Okay . And then I'll just comment on Sailpoint just the new flex licensing model . Flex navigator's is what we we call it .
Mark McClain: And then I'll just comment on just the new Flex licensing model. Flex Navigators is what we call it. Again, we're really excited about this. We think it's going to help customers buy and consume the way they want to and really optimize their investment, deploying what they need when they need it. This will be SaaS. It'll be recognized ratably over time. The Flex licensing pool is tied to our rate cards, list prices. So I wouldn't read into anything in terms of an overall margin degradation. So I think we're going to be really excited to see how customers utilize this in the best way for their environment. It's also going to help accelerate migrations or what we call platform modernization. So helping our on-prem customers adopt and grow into an ISC Identity Security Cloud platform faster and easier in a much more economical way. Great.
Brian Carolan: And then I'll just comment on just the new Flex licensing model. Flex Navigators is what we call it. Again, we're really excited about this. We think it's going to help customers buy and consume the way they want to and really optimize their investment, deploying what they need when they need it. This will be SaaS. It'll be recognized ratably over time.
Speaker #2: Again , we're really excited about this . We think it's going to help customers buy and consume the way they want to . And really optimize their investment .
Speaker #2: what they Deploying , you know , need when they need it . This will be SaaS . It'll be recognized radically over time .
Speaker #2: The flex licensing pool is tied our to rate cards list . . So I wouldn't Prices read into anything in terms of an overall margin degradation .
The Flex licensing pool is tied to our rate cards, list prices. So I wouldn't read into anything in terms of an overall margin degradation. So I think we're going to be really excited to see how customers utilize this in the best way for their environment. It's also going to help accelerate migrations or what we call platform modernization. So helping our on-prem customers adopt and grow into an ISC Identity Security Cloud platform faster and easier in a much more economical way.
Speaker #2: So I think we're going to be really excited to see how customers utilize this in the best way for their environment . It's also going to help accelerate migrations , or what we call platform modernization .
Speaker #2: So helping our on-prem customers adopt and grow into ISC, an Identity Security Cloud platform, faster and easier in a much more economical way.
Speaker #9: Great . Thank you gentlemen . Congrats again on the Quarter .
Speaker #9: Great . Thank you gentlemen . Congrats again on the Quarter . great Thank
Speaker #2: you .
Speaker #5: Thank you .
Speaker #3: Thank you . Our next comes question from the line of Matthew Marshall of Morgan Stanley . line is Your open . Mehta .
Peter Levine: Great. Thank you, gentlemen. Congrats again on the great quarter.
Mark McClain: Thank you, gentlemen. Congrats again on the great quarter. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matt Marshall of Morgan Stanley. Your line is open, Matt. Hey, everyone. This is Ryan Lancellot from Matt Marshall, and thanks for taking the question. I guess just from a go-to-market standpoint, you've announced multiple new product offerings and a new Flex pricing model. And so I'm just curious if you could provide some additional color around how ramping sales personnel on these new products and initiatives more broadly has trended thus far and maybe just kind of how you're thinking about sales hiring going forward. Thanks. Hi, Ryan. This is Matt. Look, I think this is something we certainly pay attention to.
Brian Carolan: Thank you.
Mark McClain: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matt Marshall of Morgan Stanley. Your line is open, Matt.
Speaker #10: Hey , everyone , this is Ryan from meta marshall . And thanks for taking the question . I guess just from a go to standpoint , market announced you've multiple new product offerings flex and a new model , and so I'm just curious if you could provide some additional color around ramping how sales personnel on these new products and initiatives more is trended thus far ?
Ryan Lancellot: Hey, everyone. This is Ryan Lancellot for Matt Marshall, and thanks for taking the question. I guess just from a go-to-market standpoint, you've announced multiple new product offerings and a new Flex pricing model. And so I'm just curious if you could provide some additional color around how ramping sales personnel on these new products and initiatives more broadly has trended thus far and maybe just kind of how you're thinking about sales hiring going forward. Thanks.
Speaker #10: broadly And maybe how you're sales , about hiring just kind of going forward . Thanks .
Speaker #5: Hi , Ryan , this Matt . Look , I think this is this is something we certainly pay attention to . I think if you look at our go to market model , we have a lot of specialization that's built up historically in our solution engineering organization .
Matt Mills: Hi, Ryan. This is Matt. Look, I think this is something we certainly pay attention to.
Mark McClain: I think if you look at our go-to-market model, we have a lot of specialization that's built up historically in our solution engineering organization, and that's where a lot of that comes from. I think one of the things you'll see from us, we started this last year adding a bit of these specialty sellers that are specific to an area, might take into consideration data. We think that's a little bit of a different selling motion, and it warrants, at least initially, some expertise to come in and work alongside the field team. So I think you can see us looking at things like that as we go forward, and that's one example of where we moved. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jonathan Ruykhaver of Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is open, Jonathan. Yes. Good morning, and thank you.
I think if you look at our go-to-market model, we have a lot of specialization that's built up historically in our solution engineering organization, and that's where a lot of that comes from. I think one of the things you'll see from us, we started this last year adding a bit of these specialty sellers that are specific to an area, might take into consideration data.
Speaker #5: And where a lot of that's that comes from . I think one of the things you'll from see us , we started this last year adding a bit of these specialty sellers that are specific to a an area like so take take in consideration data .
Speaker #5: Right . We think that's a little bit of a different selling motion . And it at least initially , some some come in expertise to and and you know , work alongside the field team .
We think that's a little bit of a different selling motion, and it warrants, at least initially, some expertise to come in and work alongside the field team. So I think you can see us looking at things like that as we go forward, and that's one example of where we moved.
Speaker #5: So I think you can see looking at us things like that as we go warrants , forward . And that's , that's that's one example of where we moved .
Speaker #3: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jonathan Rutherford of Cantor. Your line is open. Jonathan.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jonathan Ruykhaver of Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is open, Jonathan.
Speaker #11: Yes . Good morning and thank you . wondering if I'm you could touch a little bit more on the success you called out with , with data security I would .
Jonathan Ruykhaver: Yes. Good morning, and thank you.
Mark McClain: I'm wondering if you could touch a little bit more on the success you called out with data security. I would assume that the attach rate could be quite high on agent identity, but I realize it's still early in that journey. So maybe just touch on the use cases driving that success. And just from a big-picture viewpoint, we hear a lot of identity companies talk about the importance to data as it relates to identity security. Can you just touch on that strategy at SailPoint as well? Thanks. Hi, Jonathan. It's Brian here. I'll start, and I'm going to hand it over to Matt for a little bit more color. So I mean, we're really excited about just kind of the, I'll say, the market basket of all of our cross-sell motions that contribute to our NRR number of 114%.
I'm wondering if you could touch a little bit more on the success you called out with data security. I would assume that the attach rate could be quite high on agent identity, but I realize it's still early in that journey. So maybe just touch on the use cases driving that success. And just from a big-picture viewpoint, we hear a lot of identity companies talk about the importance to data as it relates to identity security. Can you just touch on that strategy at SailPoint as well? Thanks.
Speaker #11: assume that that the attach rate could be quite on agent identity , but I realize it's still early in that , in that journey .
Speaker #11: high just touch on the use cases driving that success and just , you know , from a from a big picture viewpoint , we hear a lot of identity companies talk about the importance to data as it relates You know , to So security .
Speaker #11: Can you just identity touch on that strategy at well ? point Thanks .
Speaker #2: Hi, Jonathan. It's Bryan here. I'll start, and I'm going to hand it over to Matt for a little bit more color.
Brian Carolan: Hi, Jonathan. It's Brian here. I'll start, and I'm going to hand it over to Matt for a little bit more color. So I mean, we're really excited about just kind of the, I'll say, the market basket of all of our cross-sell motions that contribute to our NRR number of 114%.
Speaker #2: we're really So I mean excited about just kind of the I'll say the market basket of all of our cross-sell motions that contribute to , you know , our , our , our number of 114% .
Speaker #2: They have more than doubled year over year . And that's a composition of things like non-employee risk management , machine identity , security , data access , security .
Mark McClain: They've more than doubled year over year, and that's a composition of things like non-employee risk management, machine identity security, and data access security. Then more recently, we're starting to see some green shoots from agentic identity security and many of the other products that we launched at Navigate. So there's a lot of interest showing up in the pipeline, I would say. It's still early on some of the Navigate launches, but very exciting from our perspective, and we're starting to see a strong attach rate of the new cross-sell motion. In fact, out of our new SaaS customers this past quarter, we had a little bit more than a 40% attach rate of some of these new cross-sell motions.
They've more than doubled year over year, and that's a composition of things like non-employee risk management, machine identity security, and data access security. Then more recently, we're starting to see some green shoots from agentic identity security and many of the other products that we launched at Navigate.
Speaker #2: And then more recently , we're starting to see some green shoots from identity security . And many of the other products that we launched at navigate .
Speaker #2: So there's a lot of interest that's showing up in the pipeline . I would say it's still early on . Some of the the navigate launches , but very from our exciting perspective .
So there's a lot of interest showing up in the pipeline, I would say. It's still early on some of the Navigate launches, but very exciting from our perspective, and we're starting to see a strong attach rate of the new cross-sell motion. In fact, out of our new SaaS customers this past quarter, we had a little bit more than a 40% attach rate of some of these new cross-sell motions.
Speaker #2: we're a strong starting to see And rate of the new cross-sell motion . In fact , out of our new SaaS customers , past this quarter a little bit more than rate of some of a these new 40% attach motions .
Speaker #2: So we again , are landing with right out gate . some of them And that's only going to of the allow for as we some more expansion out there have more and more just launched .
Mark McClain: So again, we are landing with some of them right out of the gate, and that's only going to allow for some more expansion as we have more and more product out there that we just launched. I guess the only point we can make, I'll jump in and probably pass to Matt again on this, Jonathan. We've had a product out in that data landscape for quite some time because we were pretty early on in identifying the fact that while the history of this space has largely been about application protection, who or what are these identities and what apps can they access, and within the apps, what entitlements?
So again, we are landing with some of them right out of the gate, and that's only going to allow for some more expansion as we have more and more product out there that we just launched.
Speaker #1: I guess the only point we can make , I'll jump in and probably pass to Matt again on this . Jonathan , you know , we've been we've had a product out in that data landscape for quite some time because we were pretty early on identifying the in while the history of this space is largely been fact that application about protection , you know , who or what are these identities and what apps can they access ?
Mark McClain: I guess the only point we can make, I'll jump in and probably pass to Matt again on this, Jonathan. We've had a product out in that data landscape for quite some time because we were pretty early on in identifying the fact that while the history of this space has largely been about application protection, who or what are these identities and what apps can they access, and within the apps, what entitlements?
Speaker #1: And within the apps , what entitlements ? ago we said , well , at some point this Quite a while space is going to need to incorporate direct access of those identities to data .
Speaker #1: Both structured and unstructured , and things like , you the know , family of Microsoft apps , PowerPoint , word , etc. . But now , as well as deep data access into Snowflake and Databricks , right .
Mark McClain: Quite a while ago, we said, "Well, at some point, this space is going to need to incorporate direct access of those identities to data, both structured and unstructured," and things like the family of Microsoft apps, PowerPoint, Word, etc., but now as well as deep data access into things like Snowflake and Databricks, right? Well, there's going to be, we think, a continued need for that human direct access to data, which is, again, we'll be building on the heritage we've got with what we've called our data access security product. But importantly, in this new realm of agentic, it's that full connection thread from the human or business function that has authorized an agent to take access directly to data, whether that data is in, again, Snowflake, Databricks, and out in an LLM somewhere, and understanding that full thread.
Quite a while ago, we said, "Well, at some point, this space is going to need to incorporate direct access of those identities to data, both structured and unstructured," and things like the family of Microsoft apps, PowerPoint, Word, etc., but now as well as deep data access into things like Snowflake and Databricks, right?
Speaker #1: Well , there's going to think , a be we continued need things like for that human direct access to data , which again , will be building on the heritage we've got with what we've called our data access product .
Well, there's going to be, we think, a continued need for that human direct access to data, which is, again, we'll be building on the heritage we've got with what we've called our data access security product. But importantly, in this new realm of agentic, it's that full connection thread from the human or business function that has authorized an agent to take access directly to data, whether that data is in, again, Snowflake, Databricks, and out in an LLM somewhere, and understanding that full thread.
Speaker #1: security importantly , in this new realm of agentic , it's that that full connection thread from human the or business function that is authorized an agent to take access directly to data , whether that data is in , snowflake , Databricks , out in an LM somewhere , and understanding that full thread that's going to be extremely folks that don't have that and depth already defined .
Speaker #1: And challenging for our data offering actually be will a part of our advanced offering coming in the future . We kind of pointed that at navigate , but it's not yet available .
Mark McClain: That's going to be extremely challenging for folks that don't have that breadth and depth already defined. Our data offering will actually be a part of our advanced agentic offering coming in the future. We kind of pointed toward that at Navigate, but it's not yet available. I think, Matt, we can talk about kind of a little where that's headed, but. Yeah. No, Jonathan, intuitively, you're right on, right? We believe the same thing, that it's going to be awful hard to secure the work of an agent without data. So I think we talked a little bit about that at Navigate. I think if you look at us historically, our data access security product has been unstructured. It's now moving over to structured data. As well. As well, yeah.
That's going to be extremely challenging for folks that don't have that breadth and depth already defined. Our data offering will actually be a part of our advanced agentic offering coming in the future. We kind of pointed toward that at Navigate, but it's not yet available. I think, Matt, we can talk about kind of a little where that's headed, but.
Speaker #1: Matt , we can talk about kind of a little where that's headed , but .
Speaker #5: Yeah , toward no , Jonathan , you're intuitively you're right on . Right . We believe the same thing that it's going to be hard to awful secure the an agent without data .
Matt Mills: Yeah. No, Jonathan, intuitively, you're right on, right? We believe the same thing, that it's going to be awful hard to secure the work of an agent without data. So I think we talked a little bit about that at Navigate. I think if you look at us historically, our data access security product has been unstructured. It's now moving over to structured data.
Speaker #5: So I think talked a little we bit about that at navigate . I think if you look at us work of historically , our data access security product has been unstructured .
Speaker #5: It's now moving over to structured data as well as well . Yeah . And so I think you're going to see as we roll out that product it'll drive Daz Daz will with it .
As well. As well, yeah.
Mark McClain: And so I think you're going to see as we roll out that product, it'll drag DAS with it. So we're pretty excited about it. Yep. Very helpful. Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Shrenik Kothari of Baird. Your line is open, Shrenik. Hey, yeah. Congrats and thanks for taking my question. So you did address the newly launched product traction, which is very impressive. I would like to double-click into the observability insights you described as fabric. Of course, that stitches the telemetry across systems. Can you just walk us through how customers are using, or looking to use, that in practice? What's the monetization model there? And structurally, does this give you leverage to embed into broader SOC workflows and capture that? Why don't you share as well? Thanks a lot. Well, I'll start with; we'll do a lot of these.
And so I think you're going to see as we roll out that product, it'll drag DAS with it. So we're pretty excited about it.
Speaker #5: So it's we're pretty excited it about . Yeah .
Speaker #11: Thank you. You are helpful.
Speaker #3: Thank you . Our next question comes from the line of Shrenik Q3 of Your line is open . Shrenik Baird . .
Jonathan Ruykhaver: Yep. Very helpful. Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Shrenik Kothari of Baird. Your line is open, Shrenik.
Speaker #12: Hey . Yeah . Congrats . taking my question And thanks for . So you did address the newly launched product traction , which is very .
Shrenik Kothari: Hey, yeah. Congrats and thanks for taking my question. So you did address the newly launched product traction, which is very impressive. I would like to double-click into the observability insights you described as fabric. Of course, that stitches the telemetry across systems. Can you just walk us through how customers are using, or looking to use, that in practice? What's the monetization model there? And structurally, does this give you leverage to embed into broader SOC workflows and capture that? Why don't you share as well? Thanks a lot.
Speaker #12: Impressive, like double-clicking into the Observability Insights. You described it as a fabric. Of course, that stitches the telemetry across systems.
Speaker #12: Can you just walk us through how customers are using or looking to use that in practice ? What's the monetization model there ? And structurally , does this give you a leverage to embed into broader SoC workflows and capture that as well ?
Speaker #12: lot Thanks a .
Speaker #1: Well , I'll we'll start do a lot of these . start We'll and hand probably Matt . off to I think on this one , yes , you got it right .
Mark McClain: Well, I'll start with; we'll do a lot of these.
Speaker #1: exactly There's going to be a number of different things we think will be pretty powerful coming out of that . Oni product . the One is just visualization of this connectivity .
Mark McClain: We'll all probably start and hand it up to Matt, Shrenik. I think on this one, yes, you got it exactly right. There's going to be a number of different things we think will be pretty powerful coming out of that O&I product. One is just the visualization of this connectivity, again, of that thread I talked about. When I can look at an identity and understand the path all the way through, say, an application or not through an application, directly to the data and understand whether that's appropriate and being used as expected and tying that, as you observed, into the SOC, whether that means kind of from our product line to other product lines from folks like Zscaler, CrowdStrike, or Palo Alto, or possibly embedding that into some other people's workflows in their SOC directly.
We'll all probably start and hand it up to Matt, Shrenik. I think on this one, yes, you got it exactly right. There's going to be a number of different things we think will be pretty powerful coming out of that O&I product. One is just the visualization of this connectivity, again, of that thread I talked about.
Speaker #1: Again , of that thread about I talked , when I can look at an identity and understand the path all the way through , say , an application or not , through an application directly to the data and understand whether that's appropriate and being used as expected and tying that as you observed into the SoC , whether that means kind of from our product line to other product lines , from folks like Zscaler or CrowdStrike or or Palo possibly embedding that into some other people's workflows in their SoC directly .
When I can look at an identity and understand the path all the way through, say, an application or not through an application, directly to the data and understand whether that's appropriate and being used as expected and tying that, as you observed, into the SOC, whether that means kind of from our product line to other product lines from folks like Zscaler, CrowdStrike, or Palo Alto, or possibly embedding that into some other people's workflows in their SOC directly.
Speaker #1: And so we're we're having both kinds of conversations today , kind of I'd call it higher level integration and perhaps even deeper kind of OEM level integration that we think could be interesting over time .
Mark McClain: And so we're having both kinds of conversations today, kind of, I call it higher-level integration and perhaps even deeper kind of OEM-level integration that we think could be interesting over time. But it's that visualization and understanding of that full value chain, if you will, that that product's going to be focused on. And then the insights part of it, obviously, is to expose to the security teams and the identity teams whether there's current risk or potentially latent risk that needs to be identified and dealt with before something negative happens. So it's this idea of visibility into the true risk profile of a lot of these things, is very, very difficult today.
And so we're having both kinds of conversations today, kind of, I call it higher-level integration and perhaps even deeper kind of OEM-level integration that we think could be interesting over time. But it's that visualization and understanding of that full value chain, if you will, that that product's going to be focused on.
Speaker #1: But it's that visualization and that full value chain , if you will , that that product is going to be focused on . And then understanding of the insights part of it to to the expose to security obviously is the identity teams , whether there's current risk or potentially latent needs to be risk , that identified .
And then the insights part of it, obviously, is to expose to the security teams and the identity teams whether there's current risk or potentially latent risk that needs to be identified and dealt with before something negative happens. So it's this idea of visibility into the true risk profile of a lot of these things, is very, very difficult today.
Speaker #1: And dealt with before something negative happens . So it's it's this idea of visibility into the true risk profile of a lot of these things is very , very difficult .
Speaker #1: Today . You will hear if you talk to I'll call them honest people in the SOC , that work that one of their biggest challenges is when they see a vulnerability or a threat emerging , coming through .
Mark McClain: You will hear, if you talk to, I'll call them honest people that work in the SOC, that one of their biggest challenges is when they see a vulnerability or a threat emerging coming through any one of those landscapes, out in the cloud, through a device on the network, all the places we look for threats, the great majority of those things, those tools are identity blind. They don't understand the identity that's either creating that access or could be negatively impacted. And so it's bringing together this rich identity context that we believe SailPoint is uniquely positioned to provide, tied into that deep security and threat landscape from the SOC and all those kinds of tools we mentioned. That's going to be a new era, we think, of much better defense against the bad actors and the threats emerging.
You will hear, if you talk to, I'll call them honest people that work in the SOC, that one of their biggest challenges is when they see a vulnerability or a threat emerging coming through any one of those landscapes, out in the cloud, through a device on the network, all the places we look for threats, the great majority of those things, those tools are identity blind.
Speaker #1: Any landscapes out one of those in the cloud , through a device on the network , you know , all the places we look for the majority of great those things , those threats , tools are identity blind .
Speaker #1: They don't understand the identity . That's that's either that access or creating or could be negatively impacted . And so it's bringing together this rich identity context that we believe Sailpoint is positioned uniquely to provide , tied into that deep threat landscape from the SOC and all those kinds of tools .
They don't understand the identity that's either creating that access or could be negatively impacted. And so it's bringing together this rich identity context that we believe SailPoint is uniquely positioned to provide, tied into that deep security and threat landscape from the SOC and all those kinds of tools we mentioned. That's going to be a new era, we think, of much better defense against the bad actors and the threats emerging.
Speaker #1: mentioned . We That's going to be a new era . think of much better defense against the We actors and the threats bad merging .
Speaker #1: So you're right that's on in terms of where we're product and what headed with that we think of a breakthrough in the landscape of really giving true security tools will be kind the SoC relative to identity .
Mark McClain: So you're right on in terms of where we're headed with that product and what we think will be kind of a breakthrough in the landscape of really giving true security tools to the SOC relative to identity. Great. Very helpful, color. Thanks a lot. Sure. Sure. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matt Hedberg of RBC. Your line is open, Matt. Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats on the results from me as well. Brian, I realize you're not giving any sort of perspective on fiscal 2027 yet. You got to still close out Q4. But any sort of high-level thoughts or guide rails on kind of how you're kind of approaching the new year, whether it be growth or margins or anything like that that would help us? Yeah. Sure. Hi, Matt.
So you're right on in terms of where we're headed with that product and what we think will be kind of a breakthrough in the landscape of really giving true security tools to the SOC relative to identity.
Speaker #12: Great. Very helpful. Thanks a lot. Appreciate.
Shrenik Kothari: Great. Very helpful, color. Thanks a lot. Sure.
Speaker #3: Our thank you. Next, sure. The question comes from the line of Matt Hedberg of RBC. Your line is open, Matt.
Operator: Sure. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matt Hedberg of RBC. Your line is open, Matt.
Speaker #6: Hey , guys . Good morning . Thanks for question . Congrats on the results from you as well . You know , Brian , you know , taking my I realize giving you're not any sort of perspective on fiscal 27 yet .
Matt Hedberg: Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Congrats on the results from me as well. Brian, I realize you're not giving any sort of perspective on fiscal 2027 yet. You got to still close out Q4. But any sort of high-level thoughts or guide rails on kind of how you're kind of approaching the new year, whether it be growth or margins or anything like that that would help us?
Speaker #6: You got to close off for Q but but any any sort of like high level thoughts or guide rails on kind of you're kind of approaching the new year , whether it be growth or or margins anything like that , that would that would help us .
Speaker #5: Yeah , sure .
Speaker #2: Hi , Matt , I would say we're really that , you know , pleased with our margin performance this past year . I demonstrated think we've our ability to margins expand .
Brian Carolan: Yeah. Sure. Hi, Matt.
Mark McClain: I would say that we're really pleased with our margin performance this past year. I think we've demonstrated our ability to expand margins on a nice, healthy basis while driving high top-line growth. I would say that this year, we benefited to a certain extent by strong term-based revenue through strong Fed renewals, some slightly longer durations. Not so sure I'd expect that to continue into FY 2027, so that was a little bit of a tailwind for us this past year. We're still going to invest for growth. I think we're going to favor point of growth over profitability because we know we can deliver profitability. But we're in a rare universe here in terms of companies that can deliver into the high 20s, almost touching 30 of ARR growth while delivering significant margin expansion.
I would say that we're really pleased with our margin performance this past year. I think we've demonstrated our ability to expand margins on a nice, healthy basis while driving high top-line growth. I would say that this year, we benefited to a certain extent by strong term-based revenue through strong Fed renewals, some slightly longer durations.
Speaker #2: a nice , You know , healthy basis while , top driving high line growth . I would say that this year we benefited to a certain extent by strong turn based revenue through strong fed renewals , some slightly longer durations , not so sure .
Speaker #2: I'd expect that to continue into FY 27 . So that a little bit of a was tailwind for us this past year . We're still going to invest for growth .
Not so sure I'd expect that to continue into FY 2027, so that was a little bit of a tailwind for us this past year. We're still going to invest for growth. I think we're going to favor point of growth over profitability because we know we can deliver profitability. But we're in a rare universe here in terms of companies that can deliver into the high 20s, almost touching 30 of ARR growth while delivering significant margin expansion.
Speaker #2: I think , you know , we're going to favor , you know , point of over growth profitability because we know we can we can deliver profitability .
Speaker #2: we're But we're in a rare universe here in terms of companies that can deliver into the high 20s almost touching 30 of IRR growth while delivering significant margin expansion .
Speaker #2: So we feel like we're really uniquely positioned , and we're going to continue advantage of our competitive opportunity .
Mark McClain: So we feel like we're really uniquely positioned, and we're going to continue to take advantage of our competitive opportunity. Thanks. Our next question comes from the line of Junaid Siddiqui of Truist Securities. Your line is open, Junaid. Great. Good morning, and thank you for taking my question. You've talked about significant customer interest in your agent identity security solution. My question is, what hurdles do you potentially anticipate in customer adoption of agentic AI for identity security, and how are you preparing organizations to trust AI-driven identity decisions at scale? Well, Junaid, I'll unpack that if I can. I think I heard two different questions in there. And one is, what are we going to do to help customers manage their agentic environment? And as we've often said, there's basically two large flavors of that, right?
So we feel like we're really uniquely positioned, and we're going to continue to take advantage of our competitive opportunity.
Speaker #6: Thanks .
Operator: Thanks. Our next question comes from the line of Junaid Siddiqui of Truist Securities. Your line is open, Junaid.
Speaker #3: Our next question comes from the line of Junaid Siddiqui of Securities . Truist Your line is Junaid open . .
Speaker #6: Good morning, and thank you for taking my great question. You know, you've talked about significant interest in your Agent Identity customer solution.
Junaid Siddiqui: Great. Good morning, and thank you for taking my question. You've talked about significant customer interest in your agent identity security solution. My question is, what hurdles do you potentially anticipate in customer adoption of agentic AI for identity security, and how are you preparing organizations to trust AI-driven identity decisions at scale?
Speaker #6: My question is , you know , what hurdles do you potentially anticipate in customer adoption of Agentic AI for identity security . And , you know , preparing organizations to how are you to trust AI driven identity decisions scale at ?
Speaker #1: Well , you know , I'll unpack that if I can . I think I heard two different questions in there . one is , what And going to do to are we help customers manage their agentic environment ?
Mark McClain: Well, Junaid, I'll unpack that if I can. I think I heard two different questions in there. And one is, what are we going to do to help customers manage their agentic environment? And as we've often said, there's basically two large flavors of that, right?
Speaker #1: said , often there's basically two large flavors of that , right ? There's And as we've all the that are agents going to be proliferating from the from vendors .
Speaker #1: the big Salesforce , ServiceNow . ET , workday cetera . ET cetera . ET And cetera . mid to large organizations are clearly going to build a set of bespoke agents with kind of agentic frameworks that they think are unique to their environment .
Mark McClain: There's going to be all the agents that are proliferating from the big vendors, Salesforce, ServiceNow, Workday, etc., etc., etc. And mid to large organizations are clearly going to build a set of bespoke agents with kind of agentic frameworks that they think are unique to their environment. So both flavors of agents, we think, are absolutely coming and coming at volume and scale. There's a little bit of noise out there about bubbles and all that. And our view is, look, what companies are doing is trying a lot of things and experimenting and trying to figure out what works. But our belief is, certainly, as we get into the next year, there's going to be pretty widespread adoption. So there's the agentic adoption of our customers, and what they need help in managing those identities just like they manage all other flavors of identities.
There's going to be all the agents that are proliferating from the big vendors, Salesforce, ServiceNow, Workday, etc., etc., etc. And mid to large organizations are clearly going to build a set of bespoke agents with kind of agentic frameworks that they think are unique to their environment. So both flavors of agents, we think, are absolutely coming and coming at volume and scale.
Speaker #1: So both flavors of agents, we think, are absolutely coming and coming at volume and scale. There's a lot—there's a little bit of there about bubbles and all noise out that.
Speaker #1: And our view is , look what companies are doing is trying a lot of things and experimenting and and trying to figure out what works .
There's a little bit of noise out there about bubbles and all that. And our view is, look, what companies are doing is trying a lot of things and experimenting and trying to figure out what works. But our belief is, certainly, as we get into the next year, there's going to be pretty widespread adoption. So there's the agentic adoption of our customers, and what they need help in managing those identities just like they manage all other flavors of identities.
Speaker #1: But our belief is certainly as we get into the next year , there's going to be widespread pretty adoption . So there's the agentic adoption of our customers and what they need help in , in managing those identities , just like they manage all other flavors of identities .
Speaker #1: A different but also important question is: are they going to trust that we in the security landscape are using AI effectively to provide the value we provide?
Mark McClain: A different but also important question is, are they going to trust that we in the security landscape are using AI effectively to provide the value we provide? And I think on that front, again, we're doing a lot of work internally for everything from how we see patterns that might indicate there is a risk out there, how quickly we address concerns when they arise from customers by using LLMs ourselves to rip through lots of information, and find out kind of root cause analysis of what might be going on. So both are really important threads. They're just kind of different. One is all the technology we're building to help customers manage this agentic explosion in their environments. The other is all the ways we're leveraging AI and various technologies inside our product line, including our own bespoke agentic technology for customers, HarborPilot, that's called.
A different but also important question is, are they going to trust that we in the security landscape are using AI effectively to provide the value we provide? And I think on that front, again, we're doing a lot of work internally for everything from how we see patterns that might indicate there is a risk out there, how quickly we address concerns when they arise from customers by using LLMs ourselves to rip through lots of information, and find out kind of root cause analysis of what might be going on.
Speaker #1: And I think on that front, again, we're doing a lot of work internally for everything from how we see might indicate there are risk patterns that are out there, to how we quickly address concerns when they arise from customers by using LLMs ourselves to rip through lots of information and find out what the root cause analysis might be of what is going on.
Speaker #1: So both are really important threads there just kind of different . One is all the technology we're building to help customers manage this Agentic explosion in their environments .
So both are really important threads. They're just kind of different. One is all the technology we're building to help customers manage this agentic explosion in their environments. The other is all the ways we're leveraging AI and various technologies inside our product line, including our own bespoke agentic technology for customers, HarborPilot, that's called.
Speaker #1: is all the ways we're The other leveraging AI and various technologies inside our product line , including our own bespoke agentic technology for customers .
Speaker #1: Harbor Pilot , called that's it's going to be a growing family of Agentic capabilities within Sailpoint to address these just I just wanted to problems .
Speaker #1: tease apart . I think there's both in there . I don't know if you So I wanted to probe any more on one or the other , but they're both both very important to us .
Mark McClain: It's going to be a growing family of agentic capabilities within SailPoint to address these problems. So I just wanted to tease apart. I think there's both in there. I don't know if you wanted to probe any more on one or the other, but they're both very important to us. Great. Thank you so much. That's very helpful. Okay. You bet. Thanks. Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone. Our next question comes from the line of Todd Weller of Stephens. Your line is open, Todd. Thanks. I'll echo the congratulations. Good morning, and thanks for the question. Look, a robust set of new capabilities were launched at Navigate. Could you also talk about the potential for those to be a catalyst to drive more SaaS migrations?
It's going to be a growing family of agentic capabilities within SailPoint to address these problems. So I just wanted to tease apart. I think there's both in there. I don't know if you wanted to probe any more on one or the other, but they're both very important to us.
Speaker #6: Great . Thank you so much . That's very helpful .
Speaker #1: Okay. You bet. Thanks.
Junaid Siddiqui: Great. Thank you so much. That's very helpful.
Speaker #3: Thank you . As a reminder to ask a question , please press star one one on your telephone . Our next question comes from the line of Todd Weller of Stephens .
Mark McClain: Okay. You bet. Thanks.
Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone. Our next question comes from the line of Todd Weller of Stephens. Your line is open, Todd.
Speaker #3: Your line is open, Todd.
Speaker #9: Thanks .
Speaker #13: the I'll echo congratulations . Good morning , and thanks for the question . Look , a robust set of new capabilities were launched at navigate .
Todd Weller: Thanks. I'll echo the congratulations. Good morning, and thanks for the question. Look, a robust set of new capabilities were launched at Navigate. Could you also talk about the potential for those to be a catalyst to drive more SaaS migrations?
Speaker #13: Could you also the potential for those to be a catalyst to drive more SaaS migrations ? be last And quarter , you then the second question would talked about seeing in acceleration in legacy displacements .
Speaker #13: Just wanted to see if there was an update on what you're seeing there .
Mark McClain: And then the second question would be, last quarter, you talked about seeing an acceleration in legacy displacements. Just wanted to see if there was an update on what you're seeing there. Hi, Todd. It's Brian here. I'll start and then maybe hand it over to Matt for any additional color. So we actually had a very strong platform modernization quarter. When I say platform modernizations, these are customers that are migrating from our on-prem solution to ISC or Identity Security Cloud. All of our new offerings, they are SaaS, so they will be on the Identity Security Cloud platform. So I think that's really kind of the innovation carrot that we say in terms of customers see our vision, and they see where we're going to help them with their needs, not only today, but also into the future.
And then the second question would be, last quarter, you talked about seeing an acceleration in legacy displacements. Just wanted to see if there was an update on what you're seeing there.
Speaker #2: It's Brian here. I'll start and then maybe hand it over to Matt for any additional color. So we actually had a very strong platform modernization quarter.
Brian Carolan: Hi, Todd. It's Brian here. I'll start and then maybe hand it over to Matt for any additional color. So we actually had a very strong platform modernization quarter. When I say platform modernizations, these are customers that are migrating from our on-prem solution to ISC or Identity Security Cloud. All of our new offerings, they are SaaS, so they will be on the Identity Security Cloud platform. So I think that's really kind of the innovation carrot that we say in terms of customers see our vision, and they see where we're going to help them with their needs, not only today, but also into the future.
Speaker #2: When I say platform modernizations , these are that are customers migrating from our on prem to ISC Identity Security solution Cloud . All of our new offerings , they are SaaS , so they will be on the .
Speaker #2: Identity cloud platform . So I think that's really kind of the innovation carrot that we say in terms of customer see , our vision and they see where we're going to help them with their needs , not only today , but the future .
Speaker #2: And we've actually seen when we migrate more than half of these migrations include emerging cross-sell modules . And that's what drives really kind of the 2 to 3 x uplift that we often talk about .
Mark McClain: We've actually seen when we migrate, more than half of these migrations include emerging cross-sell modules. That's what drives really kind of the 2 to 3x uplift that we often talk about of the ARR that our on-prem customers are spending with us today in the form of typical annual maintenance. We see a 2 to 3x multiplier on that when they do migrate to Identity Security Cloud. The good news is that there's a strong amount of interest, and it's still early. So we've only migrated about 15% of our historical maintenance base, and there's still 85% to go. So we view that as actually a nice tailwind for the next two, three years at least.
We've actually seen when we migrate, more than half of these migrations include emerging cross-sell modules. That's what drives really kind of the 2 to 3x uplift that we often talk about of the ARR that our on-prem customers are spending with us today in the form of typical annual maintenance.
Speaker #2: Of the IRR that our on-prem customers are spending with us today, the form is in the typical annual maintenance. We see a multiplier of 2 to 3 times on that.
Speaker #2: When they do migrate to Identity Security Cloud, the good news is that, you know, there's a significant amount of interest, and it's still a strong early interest.
We see a 2 to 3x multiplier on that when they do migrate to Identity Security Cloud. The good news is that there's a strong amount of interest, and it's still early. So we've only migrated about 15% of our historical maintenance base, and there's still 85% to go. So we view that as actually a nice tailwind for the next two, three years at least.
Speaker #2: So we've only migrated about 15% of our historical maintenance base . And there's still 85% to go . So we view that as actually a nice tailwind for the next two , three years at least .
Speaker #2: think And I that's only going to compound with all these new product offerings . And when customers need , you know , meet the challenges of and deploy observability and insights that we talked about that Mark alluded to earlier .
Mark McClain: I think that's only going to compound with all these new product offerings and when customers need to meet the challenges of agentic and deploy observability and insights that we talked about earlier that Mark alluded to. So again, we're really excited about the possibility. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ben Bollin of Cleveland Research. Your line is open, Ben. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking the question. You touched a little bit on some pieces, but when you look at non-employee risk management, data access, and machine identity, you mentioned that doubled year over year. Could you talk about the contribution to ARR? Where does that stand today, and how do you think about that progression looking forward? And then a follow-up on Flex.
I think that's only going to compound with all these new product offerings and when customers need to meet the challenges of agentic and deploy observability and insights that we talked about earlier that Mark alluded to. So again, we're really excited about the possibility.
Speaker #2: So again , we're really excited about the possibility .
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ben Bollin of Cleveland Research. Your line is open, Ben.
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Ben Bollin: Good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking the question. You touched a little bit on some pieces, but when you look at non-employee risk management, data access, and machine identity, you mentioned that doubled year over year. Could you talk about the contribution to ARR? Where does that stand today, and how do you think about that progression looking forward? And then a follow-up on Flex.
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Speaker #6: non-employee risk at management , Look access and machine , you mentioned year . that doubled year over identity Can you talk about the contribution to IRR .
Speaker #6: Where does that stand today, and how do you think about that progression looking forward? And then a follow-up on flex: what does the duration of those contracts look like versus traditional deals?
Speaker #6: And how did the unit economics differ for the customer? Thank you.
Mark McClain: What does the duration of those contracts look like versus traditional deals, and how do the unit economics differ for the customer? Thank you. Hi, Ben. It's Brian here. So while we won't talk specifically about the ARR number, it is doubling year over year. We also talk about how it contributes to our net revenue retention rate. It's probably in the low single digits if you combine the full market basket of all those modules combined, which, again, it's a high-growing, fast-growing basket of modules that's getting strong adoption and attach rate. With respect to the Flex model, the Navigator model, this is going to be no different from any other SaaS arrangement for us. It's typically an average of three years in length. And I think I mentioned earlier, this will be SaaS, and it will be ratably recognized. Thank you.
What does the duration of those contracts look like versus traditional deals, and how do the unit economics differ for the customer? Thank you.
Speaker #2: Hi Ben, it's Brian here. So while we won't talk specifically about the IRR number, it is doubling year over year. And we also talk about how it contributes to our net revenue retention rate.
Brian Carolan: Hi, Ben. It's Brian here. So while we won't talk specifically about the ARR number, it is doubling year over year. We also talk about how it contributes to our net revenue retention rate. It's probably in the low single digits if you combine the full market basket of all those modules combined, which, again, it's a high-growing, fast-growing basket of modules that's getting strong adoption and attach rate.
Speaker #2: It's probably in the low single digits if you combine the full market basket of all those modules combined again, which is a high growing fast basket of growing modules that's getting strong adoption and attach rate with respect to the Flex model and the Navigator model. This is going to be no different from any other.
With respect to the Flex model, the Navigator model, this is going to be no different from any other SaaS arrangement for us. It's typically an average of three years in length. And I think I mentioned earlier, this will be SaaS, and it will be ratably recognized.
Speaker #2: SaaS For us . It's arrangement typically an average of three years in length , and I think I mentioned earlier this will be SaaS and it will be radically recognized .
Speaker #3: Thank you . question comes from the line of Joshua Tilton of Wolfe Research . line is open . Joshua .
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Joshua Tilton of Wolfe Research. Your line is open, Joshua.
Mark McClain: Our next question comes from the line of Joshua Tilton of Wolfe Research. Your line is open, Joshua. Hey, guys. Thanks for sneaking me in here. I kind of want to go back to the first question that was asked. My question is, I'm trying to reconcile what is an incredibly positive earnings call and a customer base that is increasingly embracing your new vision of identity with the lighter beat in the quarter. So my question really is, was there anything around Fed or you keep emphasizing that it was a huge quarter for these platform migrations? Is there anything we need to understand about how term ARR becomes SaaS ARR as these migrations happen? Or is there anything around Fed or any other verticals you can kind of help us bridge what is an incredibly positively toned call with kind of the lighter performance in the quarter?
Speaker #9: guys . Hey , Thanks for sneaking me in here . I kind of want to go back to the first question that was asked , and my question is , I'm trying to reconcile what is an incredibly positive earnings call and a customer base that is increasingly embracing , like your new vision of identity with the lighter beat in the quarter .
Joshua Tilton: Hey, guys. Thanks for sneaking me in here. I kind of want to go back to the first question that was asked. My question is, I'm trying to reconcile what is an incredibly positive earnings call and a customer base that is increasingly embracing your new vision of identity with the lighter beat in the quarter.
Speaker #9: So my really is like , was there anything around fed or you keep emphasizing that it was a huge quarter for these platform migrations ?
So my question really is, was there anything around Fed or you keep emphasizing that it was a huge quarter for these platform migrations? Is there anything we need to understand about how term ARR becomes SaaS ARR as these migrations happen? Or is there anything around Fed or any other verticals you can kind of help us bridge what is an incredibly positively toned call with kind of the lighter performance in the quarter?
Speaker #9: anything Is there we need to about understand how IRR term becomes SaaS ? RR is these migrations happen or is there anything fed or any other verticals you can kind of help us bridge know , what is , you an incredibly positively toned call with kind of the lighter performance in the quarter ?
Speaker #9: That would be very helpful . Thank you .
Speaker #2: Hi , Josh , it's Brian here . I think you need to back and step look at , you know , we're guiding to an annual number .
Mark McClain: That would be very helpful. Thank you. Hi, Josh. It's Brian here. I think you need to step back and look at, we're guiding to an annual number. This number is greater than a billion dollars, and we're beating on that. I think when you look at beating on an annual number, that's like 4x a quarterly guide. So 1% beat on an annual ARR number is like a 4% beat on a quarterly. That aside, I think you have to look at also the net new ARR performance. It was $58 million. That's up 24% year over year. And the quality, which, by the way, that's 20% above the guidance. I think you need to also look at the underlying quality of the beat, which SaaS net new ARR grew 52% year over year.
That would be very helpful. Thank you.
Brian Carolan: Hi, Josh. It's Brian here. I think you need to step back and look at, we're guiding to an annual number. This number is greater than a billion dollars, and we're beating on that. I think when you look at beating on an annual number, that's like 4x a quarterly guide. So 1% beat on an annual ARR number is like a 4% beat on a quarterly.
Speaker #2: this number This is greater than $1 billion . And we're beating on that think , you know , . when you I look at beating on an annual number , you know , that's like quarterly forex a guide .
Speaker #2: So 1% beat on , you know , an annual IRR 4% beat on a numbers like a quarterly . That aside , I think you have to look at also the net new IRR performance .
Speaker #2: It was $58 million . That's up 24% year over year . And the quality of which , by the way , that's 20% above the guidance .
That aside, I think you have to look at also the net new ARR performance. It was $58 million. That's up 24% year over year. And the quality, which, by the way, that's 20% above the guidance. I think you need to also look at the underlying quality of the beat, which SaaS net new ARR grew 52% year over year.
Speaker #2: I think you need to also the look at the underlying quality of the beat , which SaaS net new IRR grew 52% year over year .
Speaker #2: So we feel really good about the overall health of the business , surpassing $1 billion plus or -30% growth over the last eight quarters .
Mark McClain: So we feel really good about the overall health of the business, surpassing $1 billion, ±30% growth over the last eight quarters while expanding margins nicely. We're flowing through the full beat on ARR. So I would not interpret anything. We had a very strong quarter on a variety of fronts across all verticals. Fed was strong. We did have some strong term revenue out of Fed, some slightly longer durations. That aside, SaaS also performed extremely well. Again, I mentioned the net new ARR being up 52% with a very strong attach rate. So I think we sit here today in Q4, and we feel really good about the business. Appreciate the color loud and clear. Thank you so much. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Greg Moskowitz of Mizuho. Please go ahead, Greg. All right.
So we feel really good about the overall health of the business, surpassing $1 billion, ±30% growth over the last eight quarters while expanding margins nicely. We're flowing through the full beat on ARR. So I would not interpret anything. We had a very strong quarter on a variety of fronts across all verticals. Fed was strong.
Speaker #2: While expanding margins nicely and we're flowing through the full beat on IRR . So I would not interpret anything . We had a very strong quarter on a variety of across fronts all verticals .
Speaker #2: You know , fed was strong . We did have , you some strong term revenue out of fed , some slightly longer durations .
We did have some strong term revenue out of Fed, some slightly longer durations. That aside, SaaS also performed extremely well. Again, I mentioned the net new ARR being up 52% with a very strong attach rate. So I think we sit here today in Q4, and we feel really good about the business.
Speaker #2: That aside , SaaS also performed extremely well . Again , I net mentioned the new IRR being up 52% with a very strong attach rate .
Speaker #2: So I think sit here we we today in Q4 and we feel really good about the business .
Speaker #9: Appreciate the color. Loud and clear. Thank you so much.
Speaker #3: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Gregg Moskowitz of Mizuho. Please go ahead, Gregg.
Joshua Tilton: Appreciate the color loud and clear. Thank you so much.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Greg Moskowitz of Mizuho. Please go ahead, Greg.
Speaker #14: All right . Thank you for taking the question Mark . I wanted to ask about your just in time capabilities and how additive you think they will be going forward customers and to to your SailPoint, Inc. business more broadly .
Gregg Moskowitz: All right.
Mark McClain: Thank you for taking the question. Mark, I wanted to ask about your Just-in-Time capabilities and how additive you think they will be going forward to your customers and to SailPoint's business more broadly. Also, how valuable will JIT be when it comes to agentic protection? Thanks. Yeah. Thanks, Greg. I think it's certainly too early for us to kind of give you any sense of what that looks like in a financial impact, as Brian commented. Even some of these other market basket of newer things we've introduced are because we're on such a large overall base now. Even if they're going quite well, they're going to take a little while to have a financial impact.
Thank you for taking the question. Mark, I wanted to ask about your Just-in-Time capabilities and how additive you think they will be going forward to your customers and to SailPoint's business more broadly. Also, how valuable will JIT be when it comes to agentic protection? Thanks.
Speaker #14: Also , how valuable will git be when it comes to agentic protection ? Thanks .
Speaker #1: Yeah . Thanks , Greg . I think it's to kind of sense of early for us give you any what that looks like in a financial impact , as Brian commented , even some of these , these other market basket of newer things , we've introduced because we're on such a are large overall base .
Mark McClain: Yeah. Thanks, Greg. I think it's certainly too early for us to kind of give you any sense of what that looks like in a financial impact, as Brian commented. Even some of these other market basket of newer things we've introduced are because we're on such a large overall base now. Even if they're going quite well, they're going to take a little while to have a financial impact.
Speaker #1: Now , even if they're growing they're quite well , going to be take a little while to a financial to have impact . But that this said , I trend critical and I'm is really happy with a lot of the questions you all are asking today , because I think everybody's tuning into it more and more that that the world of kind of a static , but we sometimes call admin time approach to identity governance is shifting to a real time , just in time identity , security , posture .
Mark McClain: But that said, I think this trend is critical, and I'm really happy with a lot of the questions y'all are asking today because I think everybody's tuning into it more and more, that the world of kind of a static, what we sometimes call admin-time approach to identity governance is shifting to a real-time, just-in-time identity security posture. And that is no more important than in the realm of agentic because at machine speed, as it's sometimes said, an agent that either goes rogue or has the potential to go rogue can do an awful lot of damage far faster than a human ever could. So we're going to have to get very fine-tuned into understanding both the setup these things have, right? That configuration administration setup, that what is this agent? Where did it come from? Even if it's being created relatively transiently, where did it come from?
But that said, I think this trend is critical, and I'm really happy with a lot of the questions y'all are asking today because I think everybody's tuning into it more and more, that the world of kind of a static, what we sometimes call admin-time approach to identity governance is shifting to a real-time, just-in-time identity security posture.
Speaker #1: And that is no more more important than in the realm of agentic , because it machine speed . Is it , said sometimes an agent , that either goes rogue or has the potential to go rogue , can do an awful lot of damage far faster than a human ever could .
And that is no more important than in the realm of agentic because at machine speed, as it's sometimes said, an agent that either goes rogue or has the potential to go rogue can do an awful lot of damage far faster than a human ever could. So we're going to have to get very fine-tuned into understanding both the setup these things have, right? That configuration administration setup, that what is this agent? Where did it come from? Even if it's being created relatively transiently, where did it come from?
Speaker #1: going to have to get So we're very fine tuned into understanding both the setup these things have , right , that configuration setup that what is this administration agent ?
Speaker #1: Where did it come from, even if it's being relatively transient? Where did it come from? What's it designed to do? What's its intent?
Speaker #1: Again , that's a word I think we're going to be talking more and more And about . then is anything going awry as that thing is working and and so our ability to , to sense changes to detect potential anomalies , to look for patterns is going to have to be increasing real time .
Mark McClain: What's it designed to do? What's its intent? Again, that's a word I think we're going to be talking more and more about. And then is anything going awry as that thing is working? And so our ability to sense changes, to detect potential anomalies, to look for patterns is going to have to be increasingly real-time. And as we said on the earlier question, richly tied into the SOC. We aren't going to have all those signals and patterns coming from the SOC, just like they don't have all the patterns and signals about the identity landscape.
What's it designed to do? What's its intent? Again, that's a word I think we're going to be talking more and more about. And then is anything going awry as that thing is working? And so our ability to sense changes, to detect potential anomalies, to look for patterns is going to have to be increasingly real-time. And as we said on the earlier question, richly tied into the SOC. We aren't going to have all those signals and patterns coming from the SOC, just like they don't have all the patterns and signals about the identity landscape.
Speaker #1: And as we said on the earlier question , richly tied into the SOC , we aren't going to have all those signals and patterns coming from the SoC , just like they don't have all the patterns and signals about the identity landscape .
Speaker #1: But when we bring those in together real time , I think that's we're going to really start to change the game for these , for these customers that are trying to deploy this incredible new technology of Llms and AI and agents .
Mark McClain: But when we bring those together in real-time, I think that's where we're going to really start to change the game for these customers that are trying to deploy this incredible new technology of LLMs, AI, and agents, but are still quite concerned about the risks that come along with that without good control. So we think it is kind of almost an inflection point shift in our landscape for the next few years. And you've heard it, but I'll say it one last time. We don't think there's anybody better positioned than SailPoint to help customers navigate that journey and take advantage of these new technologies. Great. Thanks, Mark. Thanks, Greg. Thank you. I would now like to turn the conference back to Mark McClain for closing remarks. Sir? My closing remarks will be brief. Thank you all for joining us.
But when we bring those together in real-time, I think that's where we're going to really start to change the game for these customers that are trying to deploy this incredible new technology of LLMs, AI, and agents, but are still quite concerned about the risks that come along with that without good control.
Speaker #1: But are still quite concerned about the risks that come along with that . Without good control . So we think it is kind of almost an inflection point shift in our landscape for the next few years .
Speaker #1: And you've heard it, but I'll say it one last time: we don't think there's anybody better positioned than SailPoint to help customers navigate that journey and take advantage of these new technologies.
So we think it is kind of almost an inflection point shift in our landscape for the next few years. And you've heard it, but I'll say it one last time. We don't think there's anybody better positioned than SailPoint to help customers navigate that journey and take advantage of these new technologies.
Speaker #14: Great . Thanks , Mark .
Speaker #1: Thanks , Greg .
Speaker #3: Thank you. I would now like to turn the conference back to Mark McClain for closing remarks. Sir.
Gregg Moskowitz: Great. Thanks, Mark.
Mark McClain: Thanks, Greg.
Operator: Thank you. I would now like to turn the conference back to Mark McClain for closing remarks. Sir?
Speaker #1: My closing remarks will be brief . Thank you all for joining us . We really appreciate all the interest and the questions . And as Brian said , we are very pleased with these results .
Mark McClain: My closing remarks will be brief. Thank you all for joining us.
Speaker #1: And you're getting a strong sense of our confidence heading into the end of the year. We look forward to going deeper on some of these topics in follow-up calls with some of you or at the conference tomorrow in San Francisco.
Mark McClain: We really appreciate all the interest and the questions. As Brian said, we are very pleased with these results, and you're getting a strong sense of our confidence heading into the end of the year. And look forward to, again, going deeper on some of these and follow-on calls with some of you and/or at the conference tomorrow in San Francisco. Thanks for joining us. Appreciate everybody's questions. Have a great rest of your day. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
We really appreciate all the interest and the questions. As Brian said, we are very pleased with these results, and you're getting a strong sense of our confidence heading into the end of the year. And look forward to, again, going deeper on some of these and follow-on calls with some of you and/or at the conference tomorrow in San Francisco. Thanks for joining us. Appreciate everybody's questions. Have a great rest of your day.
Speaker #1: So thanks for joining us . Appreciate everybody's questions . Have a great rest of your day .
Operator: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.