Q2 2026 Korn Ferry Earnings Call

December 9, 2025

Speaker #1: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the KORN FERRY II Quarter Fiscal Year 2026 Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Korn Ferry Q2 FY 2026 conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Following the prepared remarks, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded for replay purposes. We have also made available in the investor relations section of our website at kornferry.com a copy of the financial presentation that we will be reviewing with you today. Before I turn the call over to your host, Mr. Gary Burnison, let me first read a cautionary statement to investors. Certain statements made in the call today, such as those relating to future performance, plans, and goals, constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Regina: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Korn Ferry Q2 FY 2026 conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Following the prepared remarks, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded for replay purposes. We have also made available in the investor relations section of our website at kornferry.com a copy of the financial presentation that we will be reviewing with you today. Before I turn the call over to your host, Mr. Gary Burnison, let me first read a cautionary statement to investors.

Speaker #1: Following the prepared remarks, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded for replay purposes. We have also made available in the Investor Relations section of our website at kornferry.com a copy of the financial presentation that we will be reviewing with you today.

Speaker #1: Before I turn the call over to your host, Mr. Gary Burnison, let me first read a cautionary statement to investors. Certain statements made in the call today, such as those relating to future performance, plans, and goals, constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Certain statements made in the call today, such as those relating to future performance, plans, and goals, constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.Although the company believes the expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance on such statements. Actual results in future periods may differ materially from those currently expected or desired because of a number of risks and uncertainties which are beyond the company's control.

Speaker #1: Although the company believes the expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance on such statements.

Operator: Although the company believes the expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, investors are cautioned not to place undue reliance on such statements. Actual results in future periods may differ materially from those currently expected or desired because of a number of risks and uncertainties which are beyond the company's control. Additional information concerning such risks and uncertainties can be found in the release relating to this presentation and the periodic and other reports filed by the company with the SEC, including the company's annual report for fiscal year 2025 and in the company's soon-to-be-filed quarterly report for the quarter ended 31 October 2025. Also, some of the comments today may reference non-GAAP financial measures such as constant currency amounts, EBITDA, and adjusted EBITDA.

Speaker #1: Actual results in future periods may differ materially from those currently expected or desired because of a number of risks and uncertainties that are beyond the company's control.

Additional information concerning such risks and uncertainties can be found in the release relating to this presentation and the periodic and other reports filed by the company with the SEC, including the company's annual report for fiscal year 2025 and in the company's soon-to-be-filed quarterly report for the quarter ended 31 October 2025. Also, some of the comments today may reference non-GAAP financial measures such as constant currency amounts, EBITDA, and adjusted EBITDA.

Speaker #1: Additional information concerning such risks and uncertainties can be found in the releases relating to this presentation and the periodic and other reports filed by the company with the SEC.

Speaker #1: Including the company's annual report for fiscal year 2025 and the company's soon-to-be-filed quarterly report for the quarter ended October 31, 2025. Also, some of the comments today may reference non-GAAP financial measures, such as constant currency amounts, EBITDA, and adjusted EBITDA.

Speaker #1: Additional information concerning these measures, including reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures, is contained in the financial presentation and earnings release relating to this call, both of which are posted in the Investor Relations section of the company's website at www.kornferry.com.

Operator: Additional information concerning these measures, including reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures, is contained in the financial presentation and earnings release relating to this call, both of which are posted in the investor relations section of the company's website at www.kornferry.com. With that, I'll turn the call over to Mr. Burnison. Please go ahead.

Additional information concerning these measures, including reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures, is contained in the financial presentation and earnings release relating to this call, both of which are posted in the investor relations section of the company's website at www.kornferry.com. With that, I'll turn the call over to Mr. Burnison. Please go ahead.

Speaker #1: With that, I'll turn the call over to Mr. Burnison. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Okay, thanks, Regina, and thank you, everybody, for joining us. You know, in the quarter, our performance was outstanding. I'm really proud—proud of our firm, our colleagues, and our purpose.

Gary Burnison: Okay. Thanks, Regina, and thank you, everybody, for joining us. You know, in the quarter, our performance was outstanding. I'm really proud. Proud of our firm, our colleagues, and our purpose. We enable people and organizations to be more of that. Talent is everything. It's a universal need, and that's our business. We're a household brand. We're seen by millions of people around the world. And we have incredible permission to make an impact in the world, which is currently defined by digitization and economic fluctuation. Today, organizations require more than static strategies. They need the ability to adapt, align, and act. Our firm sits at the intersection of these opportunities, unlocking the potential in people and organizations, synchronizing strategy, operations, and talent to accelerate performance, fuel growth, and inspire a legacy of change. At the heart of our strategy is client centricity.

Gary Burnison: Okay. Thanks, Regina, and thank you, everybody, for joining us. In the quarter, our performance was outstanding. I'm really proud. Proud of our firm, our colleagues, and our purpose. We enable people and organizations to be more of that. Talent is everything. It's a universal need, and that's our business. We're a household brand. We're seen by millions of people around the world. We have incredible permission to make an impact in the world, which is currently defined by digitization and economic fluctuation. Today, organizations require more than static strategies. They need the ability to adapt, align, and act.

Speaker #2: We enable people and organizations to be more than. Talent is everything. It's a universal need, and that's our business. We're a household brand, seen by millions of people around the world.

Speaker #2: And we have incredible permission to make an impact in the world, which is currently defined by digitization and economic fluctuation. Today, organizations require more than static strategies.

Speaker #2: They need the ability to adapt, align, and act. Our firm sits at the intersection of these opportunities: unlocking the potential in people and organizations.

Our firm sits at the intersection of these opportunities, unlocking the potential in people and organizations, synchronizing strategy, operations and talent to accelerate performance, fuel growth, and inspire a legacy of change. At the heart of our strategy is client centricity.

Speaker #2: Synchronizing strategy, operations, and talent to accelerate performance. Fuel growth and inspire a legacy of change. At the heart of our strategy is client centricity.

Speaker #2: You know, here's just a few examples from the quarter where we've integrated multiple solutions to create enduring partnerships. The largest commercial real estate services company is partnering with us to secure a contract to build and manage multiple AI data centers for a major tech company.

Gary Burnison: You know, here's just a few examples in the quarter where we've integrated multiple solutions to create enduring client partnerships. One of the largest commercial real estate services companies is partnering with us to secure a contract to build and manage multiple AI data centers for a major tech company. We're providing RPO and total rewards to make hundreds of hires per year. A major university in the United States is opening a new hospital, and we're developing a comprehensive talent strategy to bring in hundreds of physicians and other professionals. A global consumer company with over 150,000 employees. We're assessing and developing leaders to ensure they're equipped to drive enterprise-wide digital and AI transformation.

Here's just a few examples in the quarter where we've integrated multiple solutions to create enduring client partnerships. One of the largest commercial real estate services companies is partnering with us to secure a contract to build and manage multiple AI data centers for a major tech company. We're providing RPO and total rewards to make hundreds of hires per year. A major university in the United States is opening a new hospital, and we're developing a comprehensive talent strategy to bring in hundreds of physicians and other professionals.

Speaker #2: We're providing our PO and total rewards to make hundreds of hires per year. A major university in the United States is opening a new hospital, and we're developing a comprehensive talent strategy to bring in hundreds of physicians and other professionals.

A global consumer company with over 150,000 employees. We're assessing and developing leaders to ensure they're equipped to drive enterprise-wide digital and AI transformation. I mean, those are just a few examples, and it's, you know, clearly now today, the larger, the more recurring relationships we have really pays off for not only our clients, but our shareholders. Now, as we begin another calendar year, we're going to lean even more heavily into our collective "We are Korn Ferry" strategy. Our go-to-market efforts, our marketing initiatives, and our solution orientation in all of our organizations is indexing more heavily into one business, not five segments.

Speaker #2: A global consumer company with over 150,000 employees, we're assessing and developing leaders to ensure they're equipped to drive enterprise-wide digital and AI transformation. I mean, those are just a few examples and it's, you know, clearly now today, the larger the more recurring relationships we have really pays off for not only our clients but our shareholders. Now, as we begin another calendar year, we're going to lean even more heavily into our collective "We are KORN FERRY" strategy.

Gary Burnison: I mean, those are just a few examples, and it's, you know, clearly now today, you know, the larger, the more recurring relationships we have really pays off for not only our clients, but our shareholders. And now, as we begin another calendar year, we're going to lean even more heavily into our collective "We are Korn Ferry" strategy. Our go-to-market efforts, our marketing initiatives, and our solution orientation in all of our organizations is indexing more heavily into one business, not five segments. Clearly, the strategy is working, driving resilience and durability in our business. And I'm really confident that we are incredibly well-positioned employees for a tremendous 2026. With that, I'll turn it over to Bob. Bob, go ahead.

Speaker #2: Our go-to-market efforts are marketing initiatives and our solution orientation, and all of our organization is indexing more heavily into one business, not five segments.

Clearly, the strategy is working, driving resilience and durability in our business. I'm really confident that we are incredibly well-positioned employees for a tremendous 2026. With that, I'll turn it over to Bob. Bob, go ahead.

Speaker #2: Clearly, the strategy is working, driving resilience and durability in our business. I'm really confident that we are incredibly well-positioned for a tremendous 2026.

Speaker #2: With that, I'll turn it over to Bob. Bob,

Speaker #2: go ahead. Great.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Gary. Good afternoon or morning, depending on where you're at. In the second quarter, our financial and operating results continue to improve. We posted our fourth consecutive quarter of accelerating growth, which serves as continuing proof that the intentional execution of our strategy to transform Korn Ferry is succeeding.

Robert Rozek: Great. Thanks, Gary. Good afternoon or morning, depending where you're at. In the second quarter, our financial and operating results continue to improve. We posted our fourth consecutive quarter of accelerating growth, which serves as a continuing proof that the intentional execution of our strategy to transform Korn Ferry is succeeding. In today's uncertain business environment, there has never been a greater need for talent, and that's exactly where we come in. We've built an organization to fulfill the comprehensive talent needs of our clients. We've deliberately expanded our areas of expertise in the human capital solutions where our people, enabled by technology and our foundational assets, are uniquely positioned to help our clients drive their business performance. We continue to evolve the integration of our colleagues and solutions to enhance how we address our clients' challenges and changing needs.

Speaker #3: In today's uncertain business environment, there has never been a greater need for talent. And that's exactly where we come in. We've built an organization to fulfill the comprehensive talent needs of our clients.

Speaker #3: We've deliberately expanded our areas of expertise in human capital solutions, where our people, enabled by technology and our foundational assets, are uniquely positioned to help our clients drive their business performance.

We've deliberately expanded our areas of expertise in the human capital solutions where our people, enabled by technology and our foundational assets, are uniquely positioned to help our clients drive their business performance. We continue to evolve the integration of our colleagues and solutions to enhance how we address our clients' challenges and changing needs. Now, looking more broadly at the company's financial performance over the quarter, we continue to demonstrate our ability to successfully execute our strategy in a low visibility and uncertain business environment.

Speaker #3: We continue to evolve the integration of our colleagues and solutions to enhance how we address our clients' changing needs. Now, looking more broadly at the company's financial performance over the quarter, we continue to demonstrate our ability to successfully execute our strategy in a low-visibility and uncertain business environment.

Robert Rozek: Now, looking more broadly at the company's financial performance over the quarter, we continue to demonstrate our ability to successfully execute our strategy in a low visibility and uncertain business environment. We have been on a deliberate journey to build a more durable and stable base of fee revenue and profitability, and, at the same time, provide additional value and impact for our clients. And now, with the go-live of our new Talent Suite technology platform this past November, we are in an even better position to leverage our foundational assets to lean into our collective go-to-market efforts as a holistic talent partner, as Gary mentioned, as one business. In addition to the detailed results found in our posted earnings presentation, I'm going to go through a few company-wide and solution-specific highlights for the second quarter.

We have been on a deliberate journey to build a more durable and stable base of fee revenue and profitability, and, at the same time, provide additional value and impact for our clients. And now, with the go-live of our new Talent Suite technology platform this past November, we are in an even better position to leverage our foundational assets to lean into our collective go-to-market efforts as a holistic talent partner, as Gary mentioned, as one business. In addition to the detailed results found in our posted earnings presentation, I'm going to go through a few company-wide and solution-specific highlights for the second quarter.

Speaker #3: We've been on a deliberate journey to build a more durable and stable base of fee revenue and profitability, and at the same time provide additional value and impact for our clients.

Speaker #3: And now, with the goal live of our new Talent Suite technology platform this past November, we are in an even better position to leverage our foundational assets to lean into our collective go-to-market efforts as a holistic talent partner.

Speaker #3: As Gary mentioned, as one business, in addition to the detailed results found in our posted earnings presentation, I'm going to go through a few company-wide and solution-specific highlights.

Speaker #3: In the second quarter, our business referrals grew to 27.6% of consolidated fee revenue, up approximately 250 basis points both year over year and quarter sequential.

Robert Rozek: Our business referrals grew to 27.6% of consolidated fee revenue, up approximately 250 basis points both year-over-year and quarter-sequential, demonstrating early signs of progress driven by our "We are Korn Ferry" go-to-market evolution. Estimated remaining fees under existing contracts increased to $1.84 billion. Now, that's up 20% year-over-year, led by strong new business in RPO. Executive search fee revenue remained strong, growing 10%. Now, that's the sixth consecutive quarter of year-over-year growth. Professional search and interim fee revenue was up 17% year-over-year, with growth in both professional search, +7%, and interim, including the Trilogy acquisition, at 24%. Our subscription and licensed new business continued on a positive trajectory, growing to 43% of digital new business for the quarter. And last, hourly bill rates in consulting and interim remained strong at $460 and $142 an hour, respectively. Now, I'm going to turn to overall company results.

Our business referrals grew to 27.6% of consolidated fee revenue, up approximately 250 basis points both year-over-year and quarter-sequential, demonstrating early signs of progress driven by our "We are Korn Ferry" go-to-market evolution. Estimated remaining fees under existing contracts increased to $1.84 billion. Now, that's up 20% year-over-year, led by strong new business in RPO. Executive search fee revenue remained strong, growing 10%. Now, that's the sixth consecutive quarter of year-over-year growth.

Speaker #3: Demonstrating early signs of progress driven by our "We Are KORN FERRY" go-to-market evolution. Estimated remaining fees under existing contracts increased to $1.84 billion, which is up 20% year over year, led by strong new business in our PO.

Speaker #3: Executive search fee revenue remained strong, growing 10%, marking the sixth consecutive quarter of year-over-year growth. Professional search and interim fee revenue was up 17% year-over-year, with growth in both professional search at 7% and interim, which includes the Trilogy acquisition, at 24%.

Professional search and interim fee revenue was up 17% year-over-year, with growth in both professional search, +7%, and interim, including the Trilogy acquisition, at 24%. Our subscription and licensed new business continued on a positive trajectory, growing to 43% of digital new business for the quarter. Last, hourly bill rates in consulting and interim remained strong at $460 and $142 an hour, respectively. Now, I'm going to turn to overall company results.

Speaker #3: Our subscription and licensed new business continued on a positive trajectory, growing to 43% of digital's new business for the quarter. Hourly bill rates in consulting and interim remained strong at $460 and $142 an hour, respectively.

Speaker #3: Now I'm going to turn to overall company results. Consolidated fee revenue grew 7% year over year to $722 million. Earnings and profitability also remained strong.

Robert Rozek: Consolidated fee revenue grew 7% year-over-year to $722 million. Earnings and profitability also remained strong. Adjusted EBITDA grew $8 million, or 7% year-over-year, to $125 million. Adjusted EBITDA margin was strong at 17.3%, and adjusted diluted earnings per share grew $0.12, or 10% year-over-year, to $1.33. Total company new business, excluding RPO, grew 4% year-over-year, led by strength in EMEA, and RPO delivered $253 million of new business in the quarter, with 16% coming from new logos and 84% from renewals. As I mentioned previously, estimated remaining fees under existing contracts at the end of the second quarter were $1.84 billion, of which we estimate approximately 57%, or $1 billion, will be recognized within the next year, with the remaining 43%, or close to $800 million, estimated to be recognized beyond the next four quarters.

Consolidated fee revenue grew 7% year-over-year to $722 million. Earnings and profitability also remained strong. Adjusted EBITDA grew $8 million, or 7% year-over-year, to $125 million. Adjusted EBITDA margin was strong at 17.3%, and adjusted diluted earnings per share grew $0.12, or 10% year-over-year, to $1.33. Total company new business, excluding RPO, grew 4% year-over-year, led by strength in EMEA, and RPO delivered $253 million of new business in the quarter, with 16% coming from new logos and 84% from renewals.

Speaker #3: Adjusted EBITDA grew by $8 million, or 7% year over year, to $125 million. Adjusted EBITDA margin was strong at 17.3%, and adjusted diluted earnings per share grew by $0.12, or 10% year over year, to $1.33.

Speaker #3: Total company new business, excluding our PO, grew 4% year over year, led by strength in EMEA. Our PO delivered $253 million of new business in the quarter, with 16% coming from new logos and 84% from renewals.

Speaker #3: As I mentioned previously, estimated remaining fees under existing contracts at the end of the second quarter were $1.84 billion, of which we estimate approximately 57%, or $1 billion, will be recognized within the next year, with the remaining 43%, or close to $800 million, estimated to be recognized beyond the next four quarters.

As I mentioned previously, estimated remaining fees under existing contracts at the end of the second quarter were $1.84 billion, of which we estimate approximately 57%, or $1 billion, will be recognized within the next year, with the remaining 43%, or close to $800 million, estimated to be recognized beyond the next four quarters. Turning to our regional results, fee revenue in the Americas was up 3% year-over-year, led by executive search and RPO. EMEA fee revenue continued to be strong, growing 20% year-over-year, with growth in executive search, professional search and interim, consulting, and digital.

Speaker #3: Turning to our regional results, fee revenue in the Americas was up 3% year over year, led by executive search and our Professional Outsourcing (PO). EMEA fee revenue continued to be strong, growing 20% year over year with growth in executive search, professional search, interim consulting, and digital.

Robert Rozek: Turning to our regional results, fee revenue in the Americas was up 3% year-over-year, led by executive search and RPO. EMEA fee revenue continued to be strong, growing 20% year-over-year, with growth in executive search, professional search and interim, consulting, and digital. APAC fee revenue was flat, with moderate growth in exec search and pro search and interim, offset by slight declines in RPO, consulting, and digital. Finally, our capital allocation during the quarter remained balanced. To the end of the second quarter, we returned almost $70 million to shareholders through combined repurchases and dividends, and we invested $43 million in capital expenditures focused on Talent Suite, productivity tools, and other solution and product enhancements.

Speaker #3: APAC fee revenue was flat, with moderate growth in executive search and professional search and interim, offset by slight declines in our PO consulting and digital.

APAC fee revenue was flat, with moderate growth in exec search and pro search and interim, offset by slight declines in RPO, consulting, and digital. Finally, our capital allocation during the quarter remained balanced. To the end of the second quarter, we returned almost $70 million to shareholders through combined repurchases and dividends, and we invested $43 million in capital expenditures focused on Talent Suite, productivity tools, and other solution and product enhancements.

Speaker #3: And finally, our capital allocation during the quarter remained balanced. Through the end of the second quarter, we returned almost $70 million to shareholders through combined repurchases and dividends. We invested $43 million in capital expenditures focused on talent suite productivity tools and other solution and product enhancements.

Speaker #3: Now turning to our outlook for the third quarter of fiscal 2026, assuming no further changes in worldwide geopolitical conditions, economic conditions, financial markets, and foreign exchange rates, and recognizing the year-end holidays, we expect fee revenue in the third quarter of fiscal 2026 will range from $680 million to $694 million. Our adjusted EBITDA margin is expected to range from approximately 17.2% to 17.4%, and our consolidated adjusted diluted earnings per share will range from $1.19 to $1.25.

Robert Rozek: Now, turning to our outlook for the third quarter of fiscal 26, assuming no further changes in worldwide geopolitical conditions, economic conditions, financial markets, and foreign exchange rates, and recognizing the year-end holidays, we expect fee revenue in the third quarter of fiscal 26 will range from $680 million to $694 million. Our Adjusted EBITDA margin to range from approximately 17.2% to 17.4%, and our consolidated Adjusted Diluted Earnings Per Share to range from $1.19 to $1.25. Finally, we expect our GAAP diluted earnings per share in the third quarter to range from $1.15 to $1.21. I'm excited about the next step in our go-to-market evolution. We are Korn Ferry, with a real focus on becoming the holistic talent partner for our clients. At the same time, we remain committed to controlling what we can, leaning into identified growth opportunities, and driving operational excellence.

Now, turning to our outlook for the third quarter of fiscal 26, assuming no further changes in worldwide geopolitical conditions, economic conditions, financial markets, and foreign exchange rates, and recognizing the year-end holidays, we expect fee revenue in the third quarter of fiscal 26 will range from $680 million to $694 million. Our Adjusted EBITDA margin to range from approximately 17.2% to 17.4%, and our consolidated Adjusted Diluted Earnings Per Share to range from $1.19 to $1.25. Finally, we expect our GAAP diluted earnings per share in the third quarter to range from $1.15- $1.21.

Speaker #3: And finally, we expect our gap diluted earnings per share in the third quarter to range from $1.15 to $1.21. I'm excited about the next step in our go-to-market evolution.

I'm excited about the next step in our go-to-market evolution. We are Korn Ferry, with a real focus on becoming the holistic talent partner for our clients. At the same time, we remain committed to controlling what we can, leaning into identified growth opportunities, and driving operational excellence. We remain well-positioned to drive long-term, profitable, and sustainable growth by using our foundational assets to deliver expanding and differentiated solutions to our clients. I'm more confident and excited than I have ever been about what this company can become. With that, we would be glad to answer any questions you may have.

Speaker #3: We are Korn Ferry, with a real focus on becoming the holistic talent partner for our clients. At the same time, we remain committed to controlling what we can, leaning into identified growth opportunities and driving operational excellence.

Speaker #3: We remain well-positioned to drive long-term, profitable, and sustainable growth by using our foundational assets to deliver expanding and differentiated solutions to our clients.

Robert Rozek: We remain well-positioned to drive long-term, profitable, and sustainable growth by using our foundational assets to deliver expanding and differentiated solutions to our clients. I'm more confident and excited than I have ever been about what this company can become. With that, we would be glad to answer any questions you may have.

Speaker #3: I'm more confident and excited than I have ever been about what this company can become. With that, we would be glad to answer any questions you may have.

Speaker #2: We will now begin the question and answer session. In order to ask a question, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad.

Operator: We will now begin the question and answer session. In order to ask a question, simply press star, followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Our first question will come from the line of Josh Chan with UBS. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Our first question will come from the line of Josh Chan with UBS. Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Hi, hi Gary and Bob, thanks for taking my questions and good results. It seems like the executive search business continues to perform well. Could you talk about where you're seeing the sources of strength within North America and how you think about the business in light of slower job market velocity, but you're still posting pretty good results?

Josh Chan: Hi, Gary. And Bob, thanks for taking my questions and good results. It seems like the executive search business continues to perform well. Could you talk about where you're seeing the sources of strength within North America and how you think about the business in light of slower job market velocity, but you're still posting pretty good results?

Josh Chan: Hi, Gary. Bob, thanks for taking my questions and good results. It seems like the executive search business continues to perform well. Could you talk about where you're seeing the sources of strength within North America and how you think about the business in light of slower job market velocity, but you're still posting pretty good results?

Speaker #3: Results? Well, we think of the...

Gary Burnison: Well, we think of the company as one business, number one, not five segments. And that's what the new "We are Korn Ferry" strategy is really about. And when you look at the different solutions, for example, executive search, you're seeing really significant growth worldwide in just about every market. And I think that is a combination of factors. Number one, a realization on the part of companies that what got you here won't get you there. And that requires different leadership skills today than five years ago. You've also got the issue of the retirement of baby boomers, what I've called Peak 65, where in America, for example, you've got four million or so Americans that are retiring over the next several years.

Gary Burnison: Well, we think of the company as one business, number one, not five segments. That's what the new "We are Korn Ferry" strategy is really about. When you look at the different solutions, for example, executive search, you're seeing really significant growth worldwide in just about every market. I think that is a combination of factors. Number one, a realization on the part of companies that what got you here won't get you there. That requires different leadership skills today than five years ago. You've also got the issue of the retirement of baby boomers, what I've called Peak 65, where in America, for example, you've got four million or so Americans that are retiring over the next several years.

Speaker #4: Company as one business. Number one, not five segments, and that's what the new KORN FERRY strategy is really about. When you look at the different solutions, for example, executive search, you're seeing really significant growth worldwide in just about every market.

Speaker #4: And I think that is a combination of factors. Number one, a realization on the part of companies that what got you here won't get you there.

Speaker #4: And that requires different leadership skills today than five years ago. You've also got the issue of the retirement of Baby Boomers, what I've called peak 65, where in America, for example, you've got four million or so Americans that are retiring over the next several years.

Speaker #4: You also have a situation where people are looking at their life, and most of the people that are leading C-suites were leading C-suites in COVID.

Gary Burnison: You also have a situation where people are looking at their life, and most of the people that are leading C-suites were leading C-suites in COVID five years ago. And I think there's a lot of people that are striking a different work-life balance. So I think it's all of those factors combined that are leading to the strength in that solution, as well as our strategy. And as Bob talked about, this quarter, in terms of business referrals within the firm, I mean, it was almost at, I think it was an all-time high at almost 28%. And I think that shows the strength of combining IP with tremendous people and a worldwide reach.

You also have a situation where people are looking at their life, and most of the people that are leading C-suites were leading C-suites in COVID five years ago. I think there's a lot of people that are striking a different work-life balance. So I think it's all of those factors combined that are leading to the strength in that solution, as well as our strategy. As Bob talked about, this quarter, in terms of business referrals within the firm, I mean, it was almost at, I think it was an all-time high at almost 28%. I think that shows the strength of combining IP with tremendous people and a worldwide reach.

Speaker #4: Five years ago, I think there are a lot of people who are striking a different work-life balance. So, I think it's all of those factors combined.

Speaker #4: That are leading to the strength in that solution as well as our strategy. And as Bob talked about, this quarter in terms of business referrals within the firm, I mean it was almost, I think it was an all-time high at almost 28%.

Speaker #4: And I think that shows the strength of combining IP with tremendous people and a worldwide.

Speaker #4: reach. Thanks Gary.

Josh Chan: Thanks, Gary. On that point about the referrals, could you give us a sense on where it has been historically over a long period of time and then where you think that that could go as you focus more on this strategy?

Speaker #3: And on that point about the referrals, could you give us a sense of where it has been historically over a long period of time, and then where you think that could go as you focus more on this strategy?

Speaker #4: Well, we would like to see it go to a good 35%. It's been 25%, 26%. I mean, generally, it's been up until right over time.

Gary Burnison: Well, we would like to see it go to a good 35%. It's been 25%, 26%. I mean, generally, it's been up and to the right over time. And we think there's opportunity. I mean, we just finished. We have 1,800 partners and principals that are responsible for originating business. And we just completed getting together in person, 50% of them, not 900, and we're going to do the next 900 over the next several months. And I'll tell you that it was energizing. And it's clear to me that we're only using 10% of our potential. There's no doubt about it. But we have to pivot the organization from segments. We don't have five businesses. We have one business and five solutions. And I think we're going to lean even more heavily into that in 2026.

Gary Burnison: Well, we would like to see it go to a good 35%. It's been 25%, 26%. I mean, generally, it's been up and to the right over time. And we think there's opportunity. I mean, we just finished. We have 1,800 partners and principals that are responsible for originating business. We just completed getting together in person, 50% of them, not 900, and we're going to do the next 900 over the next several months. I'll tell you that it was energizing. It's clear to me that we're only using 10% of our potential. There's no doubt about it. We have to pivot the organization from segments. We don't have five businesses. We have one business and five solutions. I think we're going to lean even more heavily into that in 2026.

Speaker #4: And we think there's opportunity. I mean, we just finished; we have 1,800 partners and principals in the business, and we just completed getting together in person 50% of them—900—and we're going to do the next 900 over the next several months.

Speaker #4: And I'll tell you that it was energizing, and it's clear to me that we're only using 10% of our potential. There's no doubt about it.

Speaker #4: But we have to pivot the organization from segments. We don't have five businesses; we have one business and five solutions. And I think we're going to lean even more heavily into that in Q2 2026.

Speaker #4: 2026. Great.

Josh Chan: Great. Thank you for the color and the time.

Speaker #3: Thank you for the color and the insights.

Speaker #2: Our next question will come from the line of Trevor Romeo with William Blair. Please go ahead.

Operator: Our next question will come from the line of Trevor Romeo with William Blair. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: ahead.

Speaker #5: Hi, thanks so much

Josh Chan: Hi. Thanks so much for taking the questions. I kind of, I guess, just wanted to follow up on that last line of questioning, but maybe a slightly different way. It did look like, I think, some of your placement-type solutions seemed like they improved either sequentially or the growth year-over-year accelerated a bit, thinking Professional Search, interim, especially on a sequential basis for interim, RPO, new business wins. It sounds like the cross-referrals and the "We are Korn Ferry" strategy is driving some of that. But also wanted to ask if some of that, you're starting to see any turn in the kind of willingness among the client base to hire more or spend more, or is it mostly just those cross-sell efforts that are driving some improvement there?

Trevor Romeo: Hi. Thanks so much for taking the questions. Just wanted to follow up on that last line of questioning, but maybe a slightly different way. It did look like, I think, some of your placement-type solutions seemed like they improved either sequentially or the growth year-over-year accelerated a bit, thinking Professional Search, interim, especially on a sequential basis for interim, RPO, new business wins. It sounds like the cross-referrals and the "We are Korn Ferry" strategy is driving some of that. Also wanted to ask if some of that, you're starting to see any turn in the willingness among the client base to hire more or spend more, or is it mostly just those cross-sell efforts that are driving some improvement there?

Speaker #5: For taking the questions, I kind of, I guess, just wanted to follow up on that last line of questioning but maybe in a slightly different way.

Speaker #5: It did look like, I think some of your placement-type solutions seem like they improved either sequentially or the growth year-over-year accelerated a bit.

Speaker #5: Thinking pro search, interim especially on a sequential basis for interim RPO, new business wins, sounds like the cross referrals, and we are Korn Ferry strategy driving some of that.

Speaker #5: But also wanted to ask if some of that you're starting to see any turn in the kind of willingness among the client base to hire more or spend more or is it mostly just those cross sell efforts that are driving some improvement

Speaker #5: there? Well, we think

Gary Burnison: Well, we think the strategy is clearly working. I mean, there's no doubt about it. Just look at the last eight quarters in what I consider a labor recession. The guide in the next quarter implies 3% growth. You look at some of the other competitors, and it would be negative 3% or 4%. So I think it's clearly the strategy is absolutely, absolutely working. You're right. We have seen, both in the Professional Search and the interim solutions, an uptick sequentially. Call it 7% or 8%. I mean, take the interim solution where we didn't have that solution just five years ago. The last investment that we made there was in the UK. That solution and that integration within EMEA has been a home run. I mean, it's, and our market opportunity in EMEA around that solution is just, it's incredible.

Well, we think the strategy is clearly working. I mean, there's no doubt about it. Just look at the last eight quarters in what I consider a labor recession. The guide in the next quarter implies 3% growth. You look at some of the other competitors, and it would be negative 3% or 4%. I think it's clearly the strategy is absolutely, absolutely working. You're right. We have seen, both in the Professional Search and the interim solutions, an uptick sequentially. Call it 7% or 8%. I mean, take the interim solution where we didn't have that solution just five years ago. The last investment that we made there was in the UK. That solution and that integration within EMEA has been a home run. I mean, it's, and our market opportunity in EMEA around that solution is just, it's incredible.

Speaker #4: The strategy is clearly working. I mean, there's no doubt about it. Just look at the last eight quarters and what I consider a labor recession.

Speaker #4: And the guide in the next quarter implies 3% growth, and you look at some of the other competitors and it would be negative 3% or 4%.

Speaker #4: So, I think it's clear that the strategy is absolutely working, and you're right. We have seen both in the pro search and the interim solutions an uptick sequentially.

Speaker #4: Call it seven or eight percent. I mean take the interim solution where we didn't have that solution just five years ago—investment that we made there.

Speaker #4: And the last UK, and that solution, and that integration within EMEA has been a home run. I mean, it's and our market opportunity in EMEA around that solution is just incredible.

Speaker #4: So yes, we've definitely seen some green shoots here. The RPO solution had a killer quarter of new business. A good part of that was renewals, but that shows the quality of our IP and the use of AI in that solution.

Gary Burnison: So yes, we've definitely seen some green shoots here. The RPO solution, a killer quarter of new business. A good part of that was renewals. But that shows the quality of our IP and the use of AI in that solution. So I'd step back and say, since we last spoke, has the market really changed? No, it really hasn't changed. And we'll see what the Fed does here over the next couple of days.

Yes, we've definitely seen some green shoots here. The RPO solution, a killer quarter of new business. A good part of that was renewals. That shows the quality of our IP and the use of AI in that solution. I'd step back and say, since we last spoke, has the market really changed? No, it really hasn't changed. We'll see what the Fed does here over the next couple of days.

Speaker #4: So, I'd step back and say, since we last spoke, has the market really changed? No, it really hasn't changed. And we'll see what the Fed does here over the next couple of quarters.

Speaker #4: days. Okay.

Josh Chan: Okay. Thank you, Gary. So I guess not that much change in the macro. Maybe just for my follow-up on the consulting solution, just wanted to ask, I guess, when you look at the bill rates up 10% year-over-year, what would you say about the mix of, I guess, services within that and the mix of senior versus junior consultants, whether either of those dynamics is sort of boosting the bill rate growth, and just the context for that question? I think one of the narratives out there is that AI is going to put a bunch of pressure on consulting businesses from a pricing perspective. And you don't appear to be seeing that. So we'd just love to get your take on those drivers of the bill rate.

Josh Chan: Okay. Thank you, Gary. So I guess not that much change in the macro. Maybe just for my follow-up on the consulting solution, just wanted to ask, I guess, when you look at the bill rates up 10% year-over-year, what would you say about the mix of, services within that and the mix of senior versus junior consultants, whether either of those dynamics is boosting the bill rate growth, and just the context for that question? I think one of the narratives out there is that AI is going to put a bunch of pressure on consulting businesses from a pricing perspective. You don't appear to be seeing that. So we'd just love to get your take on those drivers of the bill rate.

Speaker #5: Thank you, Gary. So, I guess not that much change in the macro. Maybe just for my follow-up on the consulting solution, I just wanted to ask, when you look at the bill rates up 10% year over year, what would you say about the mix of, I guess, services within that and the mix of senior versus junior consultants? Whether either of those dynamics is sort of boosting the bill rate growth, and just the context for that question?

Speaker #5: I think one of the narratives out there is that AI is going to put a bunch of pressure on consulting businesses from a pricing perspective.

Speaker #5: And you don't appear to be seeing that, so we'd just love to get your take on those drivers of the bill.

Speaker #5: rate. Well, I

Gary Burnison: Well, I think it speaks to the integration of the overall firm and delivering bigger, more impactful engagements at scale. And when you look in this last quarter, a big driver there was org strategy. And it's really a recognition. It's not a question of companies just, "Hell, we're going to use AI, and that's going to eliminate 15% of the workforce." That's the wrong approach. I mean, it's really around how do you look at your overall skill set and how do you look at your workforce? And so part of the growth there in consulting is org strategy and really taking a more holistic approach at what technology means to your company over the next three to five years. And I'm not even so sure that bill rate is actually the yardstick that we should be measuring going forward. It's really around the impact that you have.

Gary Burnison: Well, I think it speaks to the integration of the overall firm and delivering bigger, more impactful engagements at scale. When you look in this last quarter, a big driver there was org strategy. It's really a recognition. It's not a question of companies just, "Hell, we're going to use AI, and that's going to eliminate 15% of the workforce." That's the wrong approach. I mean, it's really around how do you look at your overall skill set and how do you look at your workforce? art of the growth there in consulting is org strategy and really taking a more holistic approach at what technology means to your company over the next three to five years.

Speaker #4: I think it speaks to the integration of the overall firm and delivering bigger, more impactful engagements at scale. When you look at this last quarter, a big driver there was organizational strategy.

Speaker #4: And it's really a recognition. It's not a question of companies, just how we're going to use AI, and that's going to eliminate 15% of the workforce.

Speaker #4: That's the wrong approach. I mean, it's really about how you look at your overall skill set and how you assess your workforce.

Speaker #4: And so, part of the growth there in consulting is organizational strategy and really taking a more holistic approach at what technology means to your company over the next three to five years.

Speaker #4: And I'm not even so sure that the bill rate is actually the yardstick that we should be measuring going forward. It's really around the impact that you have.

I'm not even so sure that bill rate is actually the yardstick that we should be measuring going forward. It's really around the impact that you have. Yes, the bill rate has climbed. I mean, over the last several years, that bill rate has climbed from probably the high $200 an hour to where it is today at almost $500 an hour. You look at the new business of the firm as a whole, and you see that in the consulting solution, it's like 40% of the new business are big engagements over $500,000. I mean, it's absolutely been a transformation. And I think looking at that solution, quite candidly, we have substantial opportunity in North America. That's something that we're getting after, and we've been going at it over the last two quarters with respect to talent and bringing different talent into that solution in North America.

Speaker #4: And so yes, the bill rate has climbed. I mean, over the last several years, that bill rate has climbed from probably the high $200 an hour to where it is today at almost $500 an hour.

Gary Burnison: And so yes, the bill rate has climbed. I mean, over the last several years, that bill rate has climbed from probably the high $200 an hour to where it is today at almost $500 an hour. And you look at the new business of the firm as a whole, and you see that in the consulting solution, it's like 40% of the new business are big engagements over $500,000. I mean, it's absolutely been a transformation. And I think looking at that solution, quite candidly, we have substantial opportunity in North America. And that's something that we're getting after, and we've been going at it over the last two quarters with respect to talent and bringing different talent into that solution in North America.

Speaker #4: And you look at the new business of the firm as a whole, and you see that in the consulting solution, it's like 40% of the new business are big engagements.

Speaker #4: Over $500,000. I mean, it's absolutely been a transformation. And I think looking at that solution quite candidly, we have substantial opportunity in North America.

Speaker #4: And that's something that we're getting after, and we've been going at it over the last two quarters. With respect to talent and bringing different talent into that solution in North.

Speaker #4: America. Hey Travis, this is

Josh Chan: Hey, Trevor. This is Bob. Just maybe a little bit more color on that. Gary mentioned engagements over $500 or about 40%, over $500,000 or about 40% of the new business and consulting. And just last quarter, it was 37%. So again, we're just providing further proof points that the strategy is working, and we're definitely selling larger, more transformational engagements. That's great. All right. Thanks, Bob. Thanks, Gary. Really appreciate it.

Josh Chan: Hey, Trevor. This is Bob. Just maybe a little bit more color on that. Gary mentioned engagements over $500 or about 40%, over $500,000 or about 40% of the new business and consulting. Just last quarter, it was 37%. Again, we're just providing further proof points that the strategy is working, and we're definitely selling larger, more transformational engagements. That's great. All right. Thanks, Bob. Thanks, Gary. Really appreciate it.

Speaker #5: Bob, just maybe a little bit more color on that. Gary mentioned that engagements over 500 were about 40%, while those over 500,000 were about 40% of the new business in consulting. Just last quarter, it was 37%.

Speaker #5: So, again, we're just providing further proof points that the strategy is working, and we're definitely selling larger, more transformational engagements. That's great. All right.

Speaker #5: Thanks, Bob. Thanks, Gary. Really appreciate it.

Speaker #5: Thanks, Bob. Thanks, Gary. I really appreciate it. Our next question will come from the...

Operator: Our next question will come from the line of George Tong with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Regina: Our next question will come from the line of George Tong with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Speaker #1: Line of George Tong with Goldman Sachs. Please, go ahead.

Speaker #6: Hi, this is Sami on for George. End executive search, we typically see a step down in Q3 and then a ramp in Q4.

[Analyst] (Goldman Sachs Group): Hi. This is Sami on for George. In exec search, we typically see a step down in Q3 and then a ramp in Q4. With the current strength in new business, should we expect this year's seasonality to look different? Is the new business strong enough to offset the usual softness in the third quarter?

Sami: Hi. This is Sami on for George. In exec search, we typically see a step down in Q3 and then a ramp in Q4. With the current strength in new business, should we expect this year's seasonality to look different? Is the new business strong enough to offset the usual softness in the third quarter?

Speaker #6: With the current strength in new business, should we expect this year's seasonality to look different? Is the new business strong enough to offset the usual softness in the third quarter?

Speaker #4: Our guide doesn't imply that. I really think that clients, the way the holiday season falls, I mean we're going to lose two weeks, and I think that's going to be across the board.

Gary Burnison: Our guide doesn't imply that. I really think that, clients, the way the holiday season falls, I mean, I think you're going to lose two weeks. And I think that's going to be across the board. It's going to certainly impact the entire business. And so that is factored into our guidance. So we haven't forecasted that. Could it happen? Yes, it could happen, but that's not in the forecast.

Gary Burnison: Our guide doesn't imply that. I really think that, clients, the way the holiday season falls, I mean, I think you're going to lose two weeks. I think that's going to be across the board. It's going to certainly impact the entire business. That is factored into our guidance. We haven't forecasted that. Could it happen? Yes, it could happen, but that's not in the forecast.

Speaker #4: It's going to certainly impact the entire business, and so that is factored into our guidance. So, I wouldn't say we haven't forecasted that. Could it happen?

Speaker #4: Yes, it could happen, but that's not in the forecast.

Speaker #6: Got it. And just on consulting, so bill rates were strong, but margins were flat. Could you just talk about how much one way is left in that mix shift towards higher value engagement?

[Analyst] (Goldman Sachs Group): Got it. And just on consulting, so bill rates were strong, but margins were flat. Could you just talk about how much runway is left in that mix shift towards higher value engagement? In other words, how much more of a lift can you get on bill rates? And is there a higher cost of delivering these larger value engagements that cap your margin upside in consulting?

Sami: Got it. Just on consulting, so bill rates were strong, but margins were flat. Could you just talk about how much runway is left in that mix shift towards higher value engagement? In other words, how much more of a lift can you get on bill rates? Is there a higher cost of delivering these larger value engagements that cap your margin upside in consulting?

Speaker #6: In other words, how much more of a lift can you get on bill rates? And is there a higher cost of delivering these larger value engagements that caps your margin upsize in consulting?

Speaker #4: No, no. There's substantial opportunity with that solution. If I dial back, this is my 95th quarterly earnings call, and when I dial back the clock, what you would know is that years ago we were essentially selling vitamins.

Gary Burnison: No, no. There's substantial opportunity with that solution. If I dial back, this is my 95th quarterly earnings call. And when I dial back the clock, what you would know is that years ago, we were essentially selling vitamins. And today, we're in the health and wellness business. I mean, it's really gone from very, very small transactions that were largely around assessment. And it's moved from that to now what Bob just talked about. We're almost 40% of the new business was around larger engagements. So I think there's plenty, plenty of opportunity there and upside. And we just have to balance utilizing all of our IP and bringing in talent to continue to drive that business towards health and wellness.

Gary Burnison: No, no. There's substantial opportunity with that solution. If I dial back, this is my 95th quarterly earnings call. When I dial back the clock, what you would know is that years ago, we were essentially selling vitamins. Today, we're in the health and wellness business. I mean, it's really gone from very, very small transactions that were largely around assessment. It's moved from that to now what Bob just talked about. We're almost 40% of the new business was around larger engagements. I think there's plenty, plenty of opportunity there and upside. We just have to balance utilizing all of our IP and bringing in talent to continue to drive that business towards health and wellness.

Speaker #4: And today, we’re in the health and wellness business. I mean, it’s really gone from very, very small transactions that were largely around assessment, and it’s moved from that to now what Bob just talked about.

Speaker #4: We're almost 40% of the new business was around larger engagements. So, I think there's plenty of opportunity there and upside. And we just have to balance utilizing all of our IP and bringing in talent to continue to drive that business towards health.

Speaker #4: We're seeing almost 40% of the new business come from larger engagements. So, I think there's plenty of opportunity and upside there. We just have to balance utilizing all of our IP and bringing in talent to continue driving that business towards health and wellness.

Speaker #5: Yeah. And this is Bob again. The one thing I would add to that is if you think about the current environment, the uncertainties and somewhat chaotic nature, it's actually a good thing for us.

Josh Chan: Yeah. And this is Bob. Again, the one thing I would add to that is if you think about the current environment, the uncertainties, and somewhat chaotic, it's actually a good thing for us, right? Because clients are trying to figure out how to operate in a new and different world. And they're turning to us. And that's where you see our org strategy business, for example, being very strong today. And those are the larger, again, more transformational engagements.

Bob: Yeah. this is Bob. Again, the one thing I would add to that is if you think about the current environment, the uncertainties, and somewhat chaotic, it's actually a good thing for us, right? Because clients are trying to figure out how to operate in a new and different world. They're turning to us. That's where you see our org strategy business, for example, being very strong today. Those are the larger, again, more transformational engagements.

Speaker #5: Right? Because clients are trying to figure out how to operate in a new and different world, and they're turning to us. That's where you see our Org Strategy business, for example, being very strong today.

Speaker #5: And those are the larger, more transformational.

Speaker #5: engagements. Got it.

[Analyst] (Goldman Sachs Group): Got it. Thank you.

Sami: Got it. Thank you.

Speaker #6: Thank

Speaker #6: Thank you. Our next question will come from

Operator: Our next question will come from the line of Tobey Sommer with Truist. Please go ahead. Tobey, you might be on mute.

Speaker #1: The line of Toby Summer with Truist. Please go ahead. Toby, you might be on.

Speaker #1: mute. Thank you.

Tobey Sommer: Thank you. In the search business, could you maybe describe from a high-level perspective any kind of time savings and efficiencies that you're able to squeeze out using various AI tools throughout the process? And is it, in fact, shortening the amount of time to fulfill a search, or are customers kind of filling that savings by requesting more of you, and therefore, the time is equivalent to where it used to be?

Tobey Sommer: Thank you. In the search business, could you maybe describe from a high-level perspective any time savings and efficiencies that you're able to squeeze out using various AI tools throughout the process? And is it, in fact, shortening the amount of time to fulfill a search, or are customers filling that savings by requesting more of you, and therefore, the time is equivalent to where it used to be?

Speaker #7: In the search business, could you maybe describe from a high-level perspective any kind of time savings and efficiencies that you're able to squeeze out using various AI tools throughout the process?

Speaker #7: And is it, in fact, shortening the amount of time to fulfill a search, or are customers kind of filling that savings by requesting more of you in; therefore, the time is equivalent to what it used to be?

Speaker #4: No, it's definitely more efficient today. A small part of that is clearly technology, but I think the bigger driver of it is the way work is getting done today.

Gary Burnison: No, it's definitely more efficient today. A small part of that is clearly technology. But I think the bigger driver of it is the way work is getting done today with COVID. I mean, just last night, I was on a very, very high-profile, confidential search, and we were on Zoom. And so I think that COVID has changed everything, how we consume, how we produce, and even how we work. Now, with the technology, clearly with AI, that's had a bigger, much bigger impact on, say, our RPO business that Bob could talk about. But that's definitely, that's for sure had an impact there. We think there is the further opportunity in the executive search business, but I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be somewhat limited.

Gary Burnison: No, it's definitely more efficient today. A small part of that is clearly technolog. I think the bigger driver of it is the way work is getting done today with COVID. I mean, just last night, I was on a very, very high-profile, confidential search, and we were on Zoom. I think that COVID has changed everything, how we consume, how we produce, and even how we work. Now, with the technology, clearly with AI, that's had a bigger, much bigger impact on, say, our RPO business that Bob could talk about.

Speaker #4: With COVID, I mean just last night I was on a very, very high-profile confidential search and we were on Zoom. I think that COVID has changed everything.

Speaker #4: How we consume, how we produce, and even how we work now with the technology, clearly with AI, have had a much bigger impact on, say, our RPO business.

Speaker #4: That Bob could talk about. But that's definitely that's for sure had an impact there. We think there is the further opportunity in the executive search business but I think it's going to be I think it's going to be somewhat limited.

That's definitely, that's for sure had an impact there. We think there is the further opportunity in the executive search business, but I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be somewhat limited.We use our IP in the search solution, taking a look at not only the outward leadership style, but traits and drivers and all that. There's definitely some opportunity there. It's going to be more of a high-touch solution, for sure. No doubt about it.

Speaker #4: We use our IP in the search solution, taking a look at not only the outward leadership style but also traits and drivers, and all that.

Gary Burnison: We use our IP in the search solution, taking a look at not only the outward leadership style, but traits and drivers and all that. There's definitely some opportunity there. It's going to be more of a high-touch solution, for sure. No doubt about it.

Speaker #4: There's definitely some opportunity there, but it's going to be more of a high-touch solution for sure. No.

Speaker #4: There's definitely some opportunity there, but it's going to be more of a high-touch solution for sure. No doubt about it.

Speaker #5: And, Toby, just to maybe elaborate a bit on RPO, we've actually been using AI within that solution for a number of years now, and I think that's part of what differentiates us in the marketplace.

Josh Chan: And Tobey, just to maybe elaborate a bit on our appeal, we've actually been using AI within that solution for a number of years now. And I think that's part of what differentiates us in the marketplace. And the area where it's really become much more predominant is in what I would call the research phase, so candidate identification, sourcing, and so on. But we've been doing it for probably three or four years now using AI in that process. And we actually have a tool, they call it KF Nimble Recruit, which is, I'll quote, "recruiterless recruiting," but it's really focused on candidate identification and sourcing.

Josh Chan: Tobey, just to maybe elaborate a bit on our appeal, we've actually been using AI within that solution for a number of years now. I think that's part of what differentiates us in the marketplace. The area where it's really become much more predominant is in what I would call the research phase, so candidate identification, sourcing, and so on. We've been doing it for probably three or four years now using AI in that process. We actually have a tool, they call it KF Nimble Recruit, which is, I'll quote, "recruiterless recruiting," but it's really focused on candidate identification and sourcing.

Speaker #5: And what we've seen is the area where it's really become much more predominant is in the, what I would call, the research space. So candidate identification, sourcing, and so on.

Speaker #5: But we've been doing it for probably three or four years now, using AI in that process. We actually have a tool they call KF Nimble Recruit, which is, I'll quote, "recruiterless recruiting."

Speaker #5: But it's really focused on candidate identification and sourcing.

Speaker #7: Okay. And then, if you could elaborate a little bit more on the sunsetting of a system in general and sort of those accounting elements with the new tax we just launched.

Tobey Sommer: Okay. And then I'm wondering if you could elaborate a little bit more on the sunsetting of a system in general and sort of those accounting elements, with now that TEX we just launched. So I wasn't exactly sure. Maybe you could unpack that from a business perspective, and an accounting perspective. Thanks.

Tobey Sommer: Okay. Then I'm wondering if you could elaborate a little bit more on the sunsetting of a system in general and those accounting elements, with now that TEX we just launched. So I wasn't exactly sure. Maybe you could unpack that from a business perspective, and an accounting perspective. Thanks.

Speaker #7: So, I wasn't exactly sure. Maybe you could unpack that from a business perspective and an accounting perspective.

Speaker #7: Thanks.

Speaker #5: Sure.

Speaker #4: Could perspective.

Speaker #4: You tell you, could you repeat that again? Could you repeat that?

Gary Burnison: Could you repeat that again? Could you repeat that question?

Speaker #4: question? Could you talk about

Tobey Sommer: Could you talk about the sunsetting of the system and the accounting impact and maybe why we're doing it and if it relates to the launch of Talent Suite? Thanks.

Speaker #7: The sun setting of a system and the accounting impact, and maybe why we're doing it, and if it relates to the launch of talent, etc.

Speaker #7: Thanks.

Speaker #4: All right

Gary Burnison: All right. Bob, you want to—

Speaker #4: Bob you're welcome. Yeah.

Speaker #5: I could, yeah, I could take that. Yeah. So, Toby, like I said in my remarks, we launched Talent Suite on November 17th, and we've talked about this over time.

Josh Chan: Yeah, I can take that. Yeah. So Tobey, like I said in my remarks, we launched Talent Suite. It was on 17 November. And we've talked about this over time where our foundational assets historically sat in an older system that wasn't quite as well connected. There were different repositories for different parts of our data sets and so on. What the Talent Suite did was a couple of things. It brought everything together in one single repository. So there's a single sign-on, which makes it easier for somebody using, whether it's our consultants or a client directly using our foundational assets. So you have a single sign-on. It gives you the ability to move across the data sets unencumbered where in the past, you would log into a repository, log out, log into a different repository, log out.

Josh Chan: Yeah, I can take that. Yeah. So Tobey, like I said in my remarks, we launched Talent Suite. It was on 17 November. We've talked about this over time where our foundational assets historically sat in an older system that wasn't quite as well connected. There were different repositories for different parts of our data sets and so on. What the Talent Suite did was a couple of things. It brought everything together in one single repository.

Speaker #5: Where our foundational assets historically sat in an older system that wasn't quite as well connected—different repositories for different parts of our data sets.

Speaker #5: And so on. What the Talent Suite did was a couple of things. It brought everything together in one single repository. So it was a single sign-on, which makes it easier for somebody using, whether it's our consultants or a client directly using our foundational assets.

There's a single sign-on, which makes it easier for somebody using, whether it's our consultants or a client directly using our foundational assets. So you have a single sign-on. It gives you the ability to move across the data sets unencumbered where in the past, you would log into a repository, log out, log into a different repository, log out.

Speaker #5: So, you have a single sign-on. It gives you the ability to move across the data sets unencumbered. Where in the past you would log into a repository, log out, log into a different repository, and log out.

Speaker #5: And then the third thing it does is the structure of our data has all been harmonized, which really gives us the ability to work across our data sets to provide analytics, unique and differentiated insights. When you think about all of the data sets we have, whether it's assessments, pay data, or success profiles.

Josh Chan: And then the third thing it does is the structure of our data has all been harmonized, which really gives us the ability to work across our data sets to provide analytics, unique and differentiated insights when you think about all of the data sets we have, whether it's assessments, pay data, Success Profiles, behavioral science that sits at the center of everything we do. The Talent Suite houses all that in a much more effective and efficient way for people to consume it, again, whether it's our consultants or a client directly. And so with the old system that we had, we sunset that with Talent Suite going live. And last quarter was the largest quarter. And the way that we did it is we had to make a decision to sunset it, and we did that back in July.

Then the third thing it does is the structure of our data has all been harmonized, which really gives us the ability to work across our data sets to provide analytics, unique and differentiated insights when you think about all of the data sets we have, whether it's assessments, pay data, Success Profiles, behavioral science that sits at the center of everything we do. The Talent Suite houses all that in a much more effective and efficient way for people to consume it, again, whether it's our consultants or a client directly. With the old system that we had, we sunset that with Talent Suite going live.

Speaker #5: Behavioral science sits at the center of everything we do. The Talent Suite houses all that in a much more effective and efficient way for people to consume it.

Speaker #5: Again, whether it's our consultants or a client directly. And so with the old system that we had, we sunset that with the Talent Suite going live.

Speaker #5: And last quarter was the largest quarter. And the way that we did it is we had to make a decision to sunset it and we did that back in July and so the way the accounting worked it required us to just accelerate the remaining undepreciated cost of we used to call it the Talent Hub but we accelerated that depreciation and that's what you saw in the quarter.

Last quarter was the largest quarter. The way that we did it is we had to make a decision to sunset it, and we did that back in July. The way the accounting worked, it required us to just accelerate the remaining undepreciated cost of, we used to call it the Talent Hub, but we accelerated that depreciation. That's what you saw in the quarter.

Josh Chan: And so the way the accounting worked, it required us to just accelerate the remaining undepreciated cost of, we used to call it the Talent Hub, but we accelerated that depreciation. And that's what you saw in the quarter.

Speaker #7: Okay. Okay. I hope that makes sense. What are your expectations for the financial impact of the release of Talent Suite?

Tobey Sommer: Okay. Okay. I hope that makes sense. What are your expectations for the financial impact of the release of Talent Suite?

Speaker #4: Well, we think it's going to be incredibly important for the organization, and as I say, it is one business. Our clients now have the ability to go between rooms and license all of our IP, which is immense.

Gary Burnison: Well, we think it's going to be incredibly important for the organization. And as I say, as one business, you've now, clients have the ability to actually go between rooms and license all of our IP, which is immense, from comp data on 30 million people to org strategy, almost 15,000 success profiles. So I think it's going to be incredibly positive. Now, it's going to take us some time, for sure. We just launched this. But the reality is we have thousands of clients that are choosing one thing off the menu. And there's people that are just ordering dessert, and people that are just getting appetizers. And this gives us the ability to go to them and provide the entire menu. And as Bob said, it's the ability to provide really deep analytics across from how somebody is rated to how they're compensated.

Gary Burnison: Well, we think it's going to be incredibly important for the organization. As I say, as one business, you've now, clients have the ability to actually go between rooms and license all of our IP, which is immense, from comp data on 30 million people to org strategy, almost 15,000 success profiles. I think it's going to be incredibly positive. Now, it's going to take us some time, for sure. We just launched this. The reality is we have thousands of clients that are choosing one thing off the menu. There's people that are just ordering dessert, and people that are just getting appetizers. This gives us the ability to go to them and provide the entire menu. As Bob said, it's the ability to provide really deep analytics across from how somebody is rated to how they're compensated.

Speaker #4: From compensation data on 30 million people to organizational strategy, almost 15,000 success profiles. So I think it's going to be incredibly positive. Now, it's going to take us some time, for sure.

Speaker #4: We just launched this, but the reality is we have thousands of clients that are choosing one thing off the menu. There are people that are just ordering dessert, and people that are just getting appetizers. This gives us the ability to go to them and provide the entire menu. As Bob said, it's the ability to provide really deep analytics, from how somebody is rated to how they're compensated.

Speaker #4: I mean, we have a phenomenal opportunity here around, for example, pay transparency. In the EU and in the United States even, but in the EU, if you have more than 250 employees in a country, you're going to have to make a lot of disclosures around pay transparency.

Gary Burnison: I mean, we have a phenomenal opportunity here around, for example, pay transparency. In the EU and in the United States even, but in the EU, if you have more than 250 employees in a country, you're going to have to make a lot of disclosures around pay transparency. We've calculated that total market opportunity to be a couple of billion dollars. Look, if we could get 10%, 20% of that, that's enormous. We've got a major, and what Talent Suite does is it enables, because to be able to do that, you have to have a job architecture. We do have that as part of our IP. So there is an opportunity to use the Talent Suite to combine the job architecture with pay, and then going in and doing an analysis of pay equity and pay transparency.

I mean, we have a phenomenal opportunity here around, for example, pay transparency. In the EU and in the United States even, but in the EU, if you have more than 250 employees in a country, you're going to have to make a lot of disclosures around pay transparency. We've calculated that total market opportunity to be a couple of billion dollars. Look, if we could get 10%, 20% of that, that's enormous. We've got a major, and what Talent Suite does is it enables, because to be able to do that, you have to have a job architecture. We do have that as part of our IP. So there is an opportunity to use the Talent Suite to combine the job architecture with pay, and then going in and doing an analysis of pay equity and pay transparency.

Speaker #4: And we've calculated that total market opportunity to be a couple billion dollars. And look, if we could get 10% to 20% of that, that's enormous.

Speaker #4: So we've got a major, and what Talent Suite does is it enables, because to be able to do that, you have to have a job architecture.

Speaker #4: And we do have that as part of our IP. There is an opportunity to use the Talent Suite to combine the job architecture with pay, and then go in and do an analysis of pay equity.

Speaker #4: And pay

Speaker #4: transparency. And Toby maybe

Josh Chan: Tobey, maybe just a little bit more context to give you an example that I use quite often. So in the old world, if you went in and took an assessment, you'd have to log into that database, if you will, take the assessment, get the results, you log out. Then you have to go over to where our development content sits. You'd have to log into that, find the content, and then develop yourself. Under Talent Suite, you go in, you just sign in once.

Speaker #5: Just a little bit more context to give you an example that I use quite often. So, in the old world, if you went in and took an assessment, you'd have to log into that database, if you will, take the assessment, get the results, log out, and then you have to go over to where our development content sits. You'd have to log into that, find the content, and then develop yourself.

Speaker #5: Under Talent Suite, you sign in just once. You take the assessment, receive your results, and Talent Suite delivers the development content you need. Not only does it deliver this content to you, but through the work of our Korn Ferry Institute, it actually prioritizes it in a way where the first thing you do has the greatest impact on the company and on your performance.

Josh Chan: You take the assessment, you get your results, and Talent Suite delivers the development content that you need, not just delivering it to you, but through the work of our Korn Ferry Institute, it actually prioritized in a way where the first thing you do has the greatest impact on company and on your performance, and then second, third, fourth, and fifth, and so on. And so for us, again, it's a much more effective and efficient way for people to consume our foundational assets. But the key is all the assets that Gary talked about, being able to bring them all together in a way that's easy, effective, and efficient is really what we're excited about.

You take the assessment, you get your results, and Talent Suite delivers the development content that you need, not just delivering it to you, but through the work of our Korn Ferry Institute, it actually prioritized in a way where the first thing you do has the greatest impact on company and on your performance, and then second, third, fourth, and fifth, and so on. For us, again, it's a much more effective and efficient way for people to consume our foundational assets. The key is all the assets that Gary talked about, being able to bring them all together in a way that's easy, effective, and efficient is really what we're excited about.

Speaker #5: And then second, third, fourth, and fifth, and so on. And so for us, it's again a much more effective and efficient way for people to consume our foundational assets.

Speaker #5: But the key is all the assets that Gary talked about, being able to bring them all together in a way that's easy, effective, and efficient is really what we're excited about.

Speaker #5: about.

Speaker #7: Thank you very much.

Tobey Sommer: Thank you very much. Last question for me. Have you seen any change in behavior since your only public agreed to go at it? And maybe, have or haven't, do you expect any?

Tobey Sommer: Thank you very much. Last question for me. Have you seen any change in behavior since your only public agreed to go at it? Maybe, have or haven't, do you expect any?

Speaker #7: Have you seen any change in behavior since your company agreed to go private? And maybe have or haven't? Do you expect any?

Speaker #4: You kind of cut out there. I heard part of it was around a competitor, but I didn't get the essence of the question.

Gary Burnison: You kind of cut out there. I heard part of it was around a competitor, but I didn't get the essence of the question.

Gary Burnison: Cut out there. I heard part of it was around a competitor, but I didn't get the essence of the question.

Speaker #7: Yeah. Have you seen a change in additive behavior since Korn Ferry Q4? Do you expect?

Tobey Sommer: Yeah. Have you seen a change in behavior since Heidrick & Struggles agreed to go private? Do you expect?

Speaker #4: Oh no. No, no. Oh no. Not at all. I mean, that's a great brand. And what these—there's five or so principally executive search firms—and they all have an opportunity here.

Gary Burnison: Oh, no. No, no, no. Not at all. I mean, it's a great brand. And what these, there's five or so principally executive search firms, and they all have an opportunity here. They have incredible permission. But no, I haven't seen anything.

Gary Burnison: Oh, no. No, no, no. Not at all. I mean, it's a great brand. What these, there's five or so principally executive search firms, and they all have an opportunity here. They have incredible permission. No, I haven't seen anything.

Speaker #4: They have incredible permission, but no, I haven't seen anything.

Speaker #7: Thank

Speaker #7: You. Our final question will come from the

Tobey Sommer: Thank you.

Operator: Our final question will come from the line of Alex Sinatra with Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead.

Speaker #1: Line of Alex Sinatra with Robert W. Baird. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Hi, this is Alex Sinatra, on for Mark Marcon. Thanks for taking my question. I was just wondering, obviously, from a growth perspective, things have been going well.

Alex Sinatra: Hi, this is Alex Sinatra for Mark Marcon. Thanks for taking my question. I was just wondering, obviously, from a growth perspective, things have been going well. I'm seeing broad-based progress. But I wanted to ask, on the digital side, there was a decline a bit. So I was wondering what drove that. And then looking forward, if you could speak on the pace of new sales in that business and what to expect there, as well as in your client conversations, like what are your existing customers indicating going forward, as well as the new people that you're bringing on. Thanks.

Alex Sinatra: Hi, this is Alex Sinatra for Mark Marcon. Thanks for taking my question. I was just wondering, obviously, from a growth perspective, things have been going well. I'm seeing broad-based progress. I wanted to ask, on the digital side, there was a decline a bit. was wondering what drove that. Then looking forward, if you could speak on the pace of new sales in that business and what to expect there, as well as in your client conversations, like what are your existing customers indicating going forward, as well as the new people that you're bringing on. Thanks.

Speaker #5: I'm seeing broad-based progress, but I wanted to ask about the digital side. There was a bit of a decline, so I was wondering what drove that.

Speaker #5: And then looking forward, if you could speak on the pace of new sales in that business and what to expect there. As well as in your client conversations, what are your existing customers indicating going forward, as well as the new people that you're bringing on?

Speaker #5: Thanks.

Speaker #4: Well I

Gary Burnison: Well, I think a couple of things. Number one, we made a purposeful decision several quarters ago that we had to get the entire firm behind the monetization of our IP, including our consulting solution. And so what we've done over several quarters is we've actually reduced the number of sellers in that solution by about 35%. A kind of massive, massive change. And where we're pivoting to is a couple fold. One is around the entire firm being able to talk about how an organization separates great from good using our IP. And the other is now a pivot for that solution to get more enterprise sellers and consultants. And so some quarters ago, we had a workforce in that solution that were deep subject matter experts. And where we're pivoting that is to get a salesforce that is more enterprise-oriented.

Gary Burnison: Well, I think a couple of things. Number one, we made a purposeful decision several quarters ago that we had to get the entire firm behind the monetization of our IP, including our consulting solution. What we've done over several quarters is we've actually reduced the number of sellers in that solution by about 35%. A massive, massive change. Where we're pivoting to is a couple fold. One is around the entire firm being able to talk about how an organization separates great from good using our IP. The other is now a pivot for that solution to get more enterprise sellers and consultants. Some quarters ago, we had a workforce in that solution that were deep subject matter experts. Where we're pivoting that is to get a salesforce that is more enterprise-oriented.

Speaker #4: Think a couple of things. Number one, we made a purposeful decision several quarters ago that we had to get the entire firm behind the monetization of our IP.

Speaker #4: Including our consulting solution. And so, what we've done over several quarters is we've actually reduced the number of sellers in that solution by about 35%.

Speaker #4: A kind of massive, massive change. And where we're pivoting to is a couple of folds. One is around the entire firm being able to talk about how an organization separates great from good.

Speaker #4: Using our IP, and the other is now a pivot for that solution to get more enterprise sellers and consultants. Some quarters ago, we had a workforce in that solution that were deep subject matter experts.

Speaker #4: And where we're pivoting that is to get a sales force that is more enterprise-oriented. And so that's impacted, for sure, the top-line performance of that solution.

Gary Burnison: And so that's impacted for sure the top-line performance of that solution very, very purposefully. And so over the next several quarters, what you're going to see is us continuing now to add more enterprise solution capability in "digital." And then the other thing is that in this quarter, we had a couple of very big transformational deals that we thought were going to hit in the second quarter. And actually, they got postponed to the quarter that we're in right now, one of which has been secured. And those are multi-million-dollar engagements. And on top of that, you've seen us pivot towards more licensing kind of arrangements. So those are the factors in that part of Korn Ferry's business.

That's impacted for sure the top-line performance of that solution very, very purposefully. Over the next several quarters, what you're going to see is us continuing now to add more enterprise solution capability in "digital." Then the other thing is that in this quarter, we had a couple of very big transformational deals that we thought were going to hit in the second quarter. Actually, they got postponed to the quarter that we're in right now, one of which has been secured. And those are multi-million-dollar engagements. On top of that, you've seen us pivot towards more licensing arrangements. Those are the factors in that part of Korn Ferry's business.

Speaker #4: Very, very purposefully. And so, over the next several quarters, what you're going to see is us continuing to add more enterprise solution capability in digital. And then the other thing is that in this quarter, we had a couple of very big transformational deals that we thought were going to hit in the second quarter.

Speaker #4: And actually, they got postponed to the quarter that we're in right now. One of which has been secured, and those are multi-million dollar engagements.

Speaker #4: And on top of that, you've seen us pivot towards more licensing arrangements. So those are the factors in that part of Korn Ferry's business.

Speaker #7: Great. Thank you. And then I was just wondering about the new RPO contracts. If you could talk about where those are coming from and how many were from clients switching, maybe from other firms, as opposed to companies that are new to the RPO side.

Tobey Sommer: Great. Thank you. Then I was just wondering on the new RPO contracts, if you could talk about where those are coming from and how many were from clients switching maybe from other firms as opposed to companies that are new to the RPO side. And then as well, how many of those were from cross-sale motions given the new "We are Korn Ferry" movement?

Tobey Sommer: Great. Thank you. Then I was just wondering on the new RPO contracts, if you could talk about where those are coming from and how many were from clients switching maybe from other firms as opposed to companies that are new to the RPO side. Then as well, how many of those were from cross-sale motions given the new "We are Korn Ferry" movement?

Speaker #7: And then as well, how many of those were from cross-sale motions given the new "We Are KORN FERRY" movement?

Speaker #4: Well, the majority were around renewals, which we think is unbelievable testimony to the quality of what we're doing. And they were from very much part of our market, our house accounts.

Gary Burnison: Well, the majority were around renewals, which we think is an unbelievable testimony to the quality of what we're doing. They were from; they're very, very much part of our house accounts. We call them Marquee and Diamond clients. And those represent 40% of the overall revenue of the firm. In fact, those Marquee and Diamond accounts have outperformed the portfolio. And I think if you look at them, the growth in those clients has been something like 10% compared to 3% or 4% growth. So it's been in industrial and healthcare. Those have been the two areas that have probably seen the most uptick in contributing to those RPO wins. So I would say 3/4 of it was renewals of big, big healthcare and industrial companies and 25% new logos.

Speaker #4: We call them marquee and diamond clients, and those represent 40% of the overall revenue of the firm. In fact, those marquee and diamond accounts have outperformed the portfolio.

Speaker #4: And I think if you look at them, the growth in those clients has been something like 10%, compared to three or four percent growth.

Speaker #4: So, it's been in industrial and healthcare. Those have been the two areas that have probably seen the most uptick in contributing to those RPO wins.

It's been in industrial and healthcare. Those have been the two areas that have probably seen the most uptick in contributing to those RPO wins. So I would say 3/4 of it was renewals of big, big healthcare and industrial companies and 25% new logos.

Speaker #4: I would say three-quarters of it was renewals from big, big healthcare and industrial companies, and 25% new logos.

Speaker #7: Yeah. It's about to give you maybe a bit more color on the business referrals. If you go back over time, roughly 50% of the fee revenues in RPO came from a referral from outside of that particular solution.

Josh Chan: Yeah. Bob, just to give you maybe a bit more color on the business referrals, if you go back over time, roughly 50% of the fee revenues in RPO came from a referral from outside of that particular solution.

Speaker #5: Great. Thanks so much.

Tobey Sommer: Great. Thanks so much.

Speaker #1: And it appears there are no further questions. Mr.

Operator: It appears there are no further questions. Mr. Burnison?

Speaker #1: Bernison? Okay Regina.

Gary Burnison: Okay, Regina. Listen, thank you, everybody, for listening. It's holiday season, and certainly have a wonderful holiday. We look forward to speaking to you in the new year. Thanks, everybody. Bye-bye.

Speaker #4: Listen, thank you everybody for listening. It's holiday season, and we certainly wish you a wonderful holiday. We look forward to speaking with you in the new year.

Speaker #4: Thanks everybody. Bye

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