Q4 2025 South Bow Corp Earnings Call

March 6, 2026

Operator: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the South Bow Q4 and Year-End 2025 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in listen only mode. After the speaker's presentation, we'll open up for questions. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You'll hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today's call is being recorded. I would now like to hand it over to your speaker, Martha Wilmot, Director, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

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Martha Wilmot: Thank you, Victor. Welcome everyone to South Bow's Q4 and year-end 2025 Earnings Call. With me today are Bevin Wirzba, President and Chief Executive Officer, Van Dafoe, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, and Richard Prior, Senior Vice President and Chief Operating Officer. Before I turn it over to Bevin, I'd like to remind listeners that today's remarks will include forward-looking information and statements, which are subject to the risks and uncertainties addressed in our public disclosure documents available under South Bow's SEDAR+ profile and in South Bow's filings with the SEC. Today's discussion will also include non-GAAP financial measures and ratios that may not be comparable to those presented by other entities. With that, I'll turn it over to Bevin.

Speaker #2: to South Bow's fourth quarter and year-end

Speaker #2: Filings with the SEC. Today's discussion will also include documents, available under South Bow's Cedar, presented by other entities. With Bevin, that may not be comparable to those.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Martha, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us. Demonstrated the resilience of our business expectations, advanced our first growth year that tested our safety remains the foundation of everything and, most importantly, continued to we do.

Bevin Wirzba: Thanks, Martha. Good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today. 2025 was an important year for South Bow. It was a year that tested our organization, but ultimately a year that demonstrated the resilience of our business and the discipline of our decision-making. We delivered financial results that were slightly ahead of expectations, advanced our first growth initiative to completion, and most importantly, continued to operate safely. Safety remains the foundation of everything we do. In a year of significant activity, we delivered a so strong occupational safety record reflecting the commitment of our employees and contractors even under challenging conditions. We also made meaningful progress on our Milepost 171 remedial actions, continuing to prioritize system integrity and working toward returning Keystone to baseline operations. Richard will speak to Milepost 171 shortly. Our focus on safety and operations goes hand in hand with South Bow's financial discipline.

Speaker #3: an important year for South Bow.

Speaker #3: initiative to completion, under challenging conditions. We call.

Speaker #3: In a year of significant activity, we delivered a strong occupational safety record, reflecting the commitment of our employees and contractors to operate safely.

Bevin Wirzba: We also made meaningful progress on our Milepost 171 remedial actions, continuing to prioritize system integrity and working toward returning Keystone to baseline operations. Richard will speak to Milepost 171 shortly. Our focus on safety and operations goes hand in hand with South Bow's financial discipline. Strong financial performance in 2025, supported by our highly contracted and predictable cash flows, enabled us to deliver on our capital allocation priorities. Now turning to growth. At our Investor Day last November, we outlined our ambitions to grow our business.

Speaker #3: our milepost 171 remedial actions, continuing to prioritize system integrity and working toward returning Keystone to baseline operations. Richard will speak to milepost 171 shortly.

Speaker #3: Our focus on safety and operations goes hand in hand with South Bow's financial discipline. Strong financial performance in also made meaningful progress on At this time, all contracted and predictable cash flows allocation priorities.

Bevin Wirzba: Strong financial performance in 2025, supported by our highly contracted and predictable cash flows, enabled us to deliver on our capital allocation priorities. Now turning to growth. At our Investor Day last November, we outlined our ambitions to grow our business. Today, we see multiple potential paths to achieving those growth objectives. This will include a combination of organic opportunities that leverage our existing infrastructure to support anticipated crude oil production growth in the Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin, as well as inorganic opportunities that diversify and enhance the competitiveness of our base business. We believe Canada has a tremendous opportunity to grow production and add incremental egress in the coming years. Canadian producers aspire to materially grow their asset bases.

Speaker #3: Now turning to growth. At our investor day last November, we outlined our ambitions to grow our business. Today, we see multiple potential paths to achieving those growth objectives.

Bevin Wirzba: Today, we see multiple potential paths to achieving those growth objectives. This will include a combination of organic opportunities that leverage our existing infrastructure to support anticipated crude oil production growth in the Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin, as well as inorganic opportunities that diversify and enhance the competitiveness of our base business. We believe Canada has a tremendous opportunity to grow production and add incremental egress in the coming years. Canadian producers aspire to materially grow their asset bases.

Speaker #3: This will include a combination of organic enabled us to deliver on our capital opportunities, that leverage our existing infrastructure, to support anticipated crude oil production growth in the Western Canadian sedimentary basin.

Speaker #3: As well as inorganic opportunities that our base business. The policy environment in North America is becoming more constructive, and we believe Canada has a tremendous opportunity to grow production and add incremental egress in the coming years.

Speaker #3: Canadian producers aspire to materially grow their asset bases, and with our customer-led strategy, we are looking to put forward the most competitive solutions to meet their needs, while aligning with our capital allocation principles and risk preferences.

Bevin Wirzba: With our customer-led strategy, we are looking to put forward the most competitive solutions to meet their needs while aligning with our capital allocation principles and risk preferences. All growth at South Bow will be balanced with financial discipline. This is non-negotiable for our team and board of directors. We remain committed to maintaining a strong balance sheet, returning a meaningful and sustainable dividend to our shareholders, all while investing in growth. That balance is central to our strategy. The Blackrod Connection Project is a good example of how we think about organic growth at South Bow. It builds on existing infrastructure and enables us to safely and reliably move Canadian crude to a desirable market at a competitive toll. A recent endeavor of ours, the Prairie Connector Project, has garnered some attention.

Speaker #3: All growth at South Bow will be balanced with financial discipline. This is non-negotiable for our team and board of directors. We remain committed to maintaining a strong balance sheet, returning a meaningful and sustainable dividend to our shareholders.

Speaker #3: All while investing in growth. That balance is central to our strategy. The BlackRock Connection project is a good example of how we think about organic growth at South Bow.

Speaker #3: It builds on existing infrastructure and enables us to safely and reliably move Canadian crude to a desirable market at a competitive toll. A recent endeavor of ours, the Prairie Connector project, has garnered some attention.

Bevin Wirzba: A recent endeavor of ours, the Prairie Connector Project, has garnered some attention. While currently in early stages, the project would provide firm transportation service from Hardisty, Alberta, leveraging and optimizing South Bow's pre-invested infrastructure and connecting to other systems downstream to deliver Canadian crude to US refining and demand markets, including Cushing and destinations on the Gulf Coast. We look forward to discussing this potential solution further in the future. With that, I'll now ask Richard and Van to provide an update on the operational, commercial, and financial aspects of the business. Go ahead, Richard.

Speaker #3: While currently in early stages, the project would provide firm transportation service from hard-to-steal Alberta, leveraging an optimizing South Bow's pre-invested infrastructure and connecting to other systems downstream to deliver Canadian crude to U.S.

Bevin Wirzba: While currently in early stages, the project would provide firm transportation service from Hardisty, Alberta, leveraging and optimizing South Bow's pre-invested infrastructure and connecting to other systems downstream to deliver Canadian crude to US refining and demand markets, including Cushing and destinations on the Gulf Coast. We look forward to discussing this potential solution further in the future. With that, I'll now ask Richard and Van to provide an update on the operational, commercial, and financial aspects of the business. Go ahead, Richard.

Speaker #3: Refining and demand markets, including cushion and destinations on the Gulf Coast. An open season to determine commercial interest is currently underway, and we look forward to discussing this potential solution further in the future.

Speaker #3: With that, I'll now ask Richard and Van to provide an update on the operational, commercial, and financial aspects of the business. Go ahead, Richard.

Speaker #4: Thanks, Bevin. I'll start by talking about our safety performance.

Operator: Thanks, Bevin. I'll start by talking about our safety performance. We had significant construction activity levels across our business last year, from the Blackrod Project to the Milepost 171 response and restoration, to executing a significant maintenance and integrity program. The scope amounted to more than 2.5 million work hours where we achieved 0 recordable safety incidents. Our strong focus on safety support the well-being of our workforce and the communities where we operate. Earlier this week, we placed the Blackrod Connection Project into commercial service less than 24 months from the time of sanctioning. The project was on time, on budget, and with exceptional safety performance. As our first growth initiative, this is a significant accomplishment for the organization and demonstrates that we have a highly capable team who can develop and execute organic projects and deliver competitive solutions to our customers.

Richard Prior: Thanks, Bevin. I'll start by talking about our safety performance. We had significant construction activity levels across our business last year, from the Blackrod Project to the Milepost 171 response and restoration, to executing a significant maintenance and integrity program. The scope amounted to more than 2.5 million work hours where we achieved 0 recordable safety incidents. Our strong focus on safety support the well-being of our workforce and the communities where we operate. Earlier this week, we placed the Blackrod Connection Project into commercial service less than 24 months from the time of sanctioning. The project was on time, on budget, and with exceptional safety performance.

Speaker #4: levels across our business last year, from the BlackRock project to the milepost 171 response and restoration to executing a significant maintenance and integrity program.

Speaker #4: The scope amounted to more than two and a half million work hours, where we achieved zero recordable safety incidents. Our strong focus on safety supported the well-being of our workforce and the communities where we operate.

Speaker #4: Earlier this week, we placed the BlackRock connection project into commercial service less than 24 months from the time of sanctioning. The project was on time on budget and with exceptional safety performance.

Speaker #4: As our first growth initiative, this is a significant accomplishment for the organization and demonstrates that we have a highly capable team who can develop and execute organic projects and deliver competitive solutions to our customers.

Richard Prior: As our first growth initiative, this is a significant accomplishment for the organization and demonstrates that we have a highly capable team who can develop and execute organic projects and deliver competitive solutions to our customers. Turning to Milepost 171, last month, PHMSA posted the results of the independent third-party root cause analysis, which confirmed that the characteristics of the incidents were unique and that the pipe and wells met industry standards for design, materials, and mechanical properties. We began proactively addressing many of the recommendations after the incident occurred last April and have made significant progress on our remedial actions and integrity work with 11 in-line inspection runs and 51 integrity digs to investigate 68 pipe joints completed across the system so far.

Speaker #4: Turning to milepost 171, last month, FIMSA posted the results of the independent third-party root cause analysis, which confirmed that the characteristics of the incidents were unique and that the pipe and wells met industry standards for design, materials, and mechanical properties.

Operator: Turning to Milepost 171, last month, PHMSA posted the results of the independent third-party root cause analysis, which confirmed that the characteristics of the incidents were unique and that the pipe and wells met industry standards for design, materials, and mechanical properties. We began proactively addressing many of the recommendations after the incident occurred last April and have made significant progress on our remedial actions and integrity work with 11 in-line inspection runs and 51 integrity digs to investigate 68 pipe joints completed across the system so far. In parallel, we continue to work closely with our in-line inspection technology providers to enhance tool performance and detection capabilities. We are operating the Keystone Pipeline at a high system operating factor, which has enabled us to continue meeting our contracted commitments while under pressure restrictions.

Speaker #4: We began proactively addressing many of the recommendations after the incident occurred last April, and have made significant progress on our remedial actions and integrity work.

Speaker #4: With 11 in-line inspection runs, and 51 integrity digs to investigate 68 pipe joints completed across diversify and enhance the competitiveness of the system so far.

Richard Prior: In parallel, we continue to work closely with our in-line inspection technology providers to enhance tool performance and detection capabilities. We are operating the Keystone Pipeline at a high system operating factor, which has enabled us to continue meeting our contracted commitments while under pressure restrictions. As we progress our remedial and integrity work and share our findings with the regulators, we expect pressure restrictions to be lifted in a phased manner. The lifting of pressure restrictions would present an opportunity for a modest increase in spot movements later in 2026. With that, I'll turn it over to Van to walk through our financial performance and outlook.

Speaker #4: In parallel, we continue to work closely with our in-line inspection technology providers to enhance tool performance and detection capabilities. We are operating the Keystone pipeline at a high system operating factor, which has enabled us to continue meeting our contracted commitments while under pressure restrictions.

Speaker #4: As we progress our remedial and integrity work and share our findings with the regulators, we expect pressure restrictions to be lifted in a phased manner.

Operator: As we progress our remedial and integrity work and share our findings with the regulators, we expect pressure restrictions to be lifted in a phased manner. The lifting of pressure restrictions would present an opportunity for a modest increase in spot movements later in 2026. With that, I'll turn it over to Van to walk through our financial performance and outlook.

Speaker #4: The lifting of pressure restrictions would present an opportunity for a modest increase in spot movements later in 2026. With that, I'll turn it over to Van to walk through our financial performance and outlook.

Speaker #5: Thanks, Richard, and good morning. First, I'll speak to our financial performance in results despite a challenging backdrop that included geopolitical and market uncertainty, tight pricing differentials, and pressure restrictions following milepost 171.

Van Dafoe: Thanks, Richard, good morning. First, I'll speak to our financial performance in 2025. South Bow delivered solid results despite a challenging backdrop that included geopolitical and market uncertainty, tight pricing differentials, and pressure restrictions following Milepost 171. South Bow delivered normalized EBITDA of $1.02 billion in 2025, slightly above our expectations of $1.01 billion, with a modest outperformance driven by our marketing segment. While 90% of our business is underpinned by high-quality cash flows generated from long-term contracts, our marketing affiliate does make small contributions to our bottom line. Early last year, we took steps to reduce our risk exposure in the face of market volatility, and the team did a great job throughout the year to partially offset some of those losses.

Speaker #5: South Bow delivered normalized EBITDA, a 1.02 billion dollars in 2025, slightly above our expectations of 1.01 billion dollars, with a modest outperformance driven by our marketing segment.

Speaker #5: While 90% of our business is underpinned by high-quality cash flows generated from long-term contracts, our marketing affiliate does make small contributions to our bottom line.

Speaker #5: Early last year, we took steps to reduce our risk exposure in the face of market volatility, and the team did a great job throughout the year to partially offset some of those losses.

Speaker #5: Our tax team also did an exceptional job optimizing our tax position throughout the year. Reflecting these efforts, South Bow reported distributable cash flow of 709 million dollars, in line with revised guidance and more than 30% above our original guidance.

Van Dafoe: Our tax team also did an exceptional job optimizing our tax position throughout the year. Reflecting these efforts, South Bow reported distributable cash flow of $709 million, in line with revised guidance and more than 30% above our original guidance. This outperformance expanded our free cash flow position, enabling us to accelerate our deleveraging priority. We exited 2025 with a net debt to normalized EBITDA ratio of 4.7x, slightly better than the expected 4.8x. All other items were in line with our 2025 guidance. After a solid year, South Bow is starting 2026 in a position of strength, and we are reaffirming our financial outlook for the year.

Speaker #5: This outperformance expanded our free cash flow position, enabling us to accelerate our deleveraging priority. We exited 2025 with a net debt to normalized EBITDA ratio of 4.7 times, slightly better than the expected 4.8 times.

Speaker #5: All other items were in line with our 2025 guidance. After a solid year, South Bow is starting 2026 in a position of strength, and we are reaffirming our financial outlook for the year.

Speaker #5: As BlackRock cash flows ramp in the second half of the year, we will continue to direct our free cash flow to strengthening our balance sheet, remaining on track to meet our leverage targets of four times in the medium term.

Van Dafoe: As Blackrod cash flows ramp in the second half of the year, we will continue to direct our free cash flow to strengthening our balance sheet, remaining on track to meet our leverage targets of 4 times in the medium term. As we deleverage, we also intend to allocate capital towards growth. We will share our growth capital plans once we have sanctioned our next initiative. Finally, the stability of our financial results enables us to deliver a meaningful return to our shareholders. In 2025, we returned $416 million or $2 per share through our sustainable dividend. With that brief financial overview, I'll hand it back to Bevin for closing remarks.

Speaker #5: As we deleverage, we also intend to allocate capital towards growth, and we will share our growth capital plans once we have sanctioned our next initiative.

Speaker #5: Finally, the stability of our financial results enables us to deliver a meaningful return to our shareholders. In 2025, we returned $416 million, or $2 per share, through our sustainable dividend.

Speaker #5: With that brief financial overview, I'll hand it back to Bevin for closing remarks.

Bevin Wirzba: Thanks, Van. Thanks, Richard. To close, I'll come back to what defines South Bow. We operate critical and enduring energy infrastructure in a corridor that connects one of the strongest and most secure supply basins in North America to some of the most attractive refining and demand markets. We have a growing set of customer-led opportunities that leverage our pre-invested infrastructure. We plan to do that with a focus on safety, integrity, and discipline. You can trust that our growth will be paired with balance sheet strength and sustainable shareholder returns. That is fundamental to how we run this company. 2025 showed what South Bow can deliver. We're confident in the foundation we've built, and the path ahead offers even greater opportunity. You can expect us to execute it the right way. With that, I'll now ask the operator to open the line for questions.

Speaker #4: Thanks, Van. Thanks, Richard. To close, I'll come back to what defines South Bow. We operate critical and enduring energy infrastructure in a corridor that connects one of the strongest and most secure supply basins in North America, to some of the most attractive refining and demand markets, and we have a growing set of customer-led opportunities that leverage our pre-invested infrastructure.

Speaker #4: We plan to do that with a focus on safety, integrity, and discipline, and you can trust that our growth will be paired with balance sheet strength and sustainable shareholder returns.

Speaker #4: That is fundamental to how we run this company. 2025 showed what South Bow can deliver. We're confident in the foundation we've built, and the path ahead offers even greater opportunity.

Speaker #4: You can expect us to execute it the right way. With that, I'll now ask the operator to open the line for questions.

Bevin Wirzba: With that, I'll now ask the operator to open the line for questions.

Speaker #3: Thank you. And as a reminder to ask a question, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone and wait for a name to be announced.

Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone and wait for a name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. One moment for our first question. Our first question will come from the line of Theresa Chen from Barclays. Your line is open.

Speaker #3: To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. One moment for our first question. Our first question will come from line of Theresa Chen from Barclays, your line is open.

Speaker #6: Good morning. With respect to the open season for the Prairie Connector project, can you discuss any early indications of commercial interest at this point?

Theresa Chen: Good morning. With respect to the open season for the Prairie Connector Project, can you discuss any early indications of commercial interest at this point, understanding that you are still very early on? In general, how are you thinking about competition for US-bound WCS egress from Enbridge and Energy Transfer, as well as the impact of incremental Venezuelan barrels flowing to the US Gulf Coast, potentially displacing WCS in path three? What do you see as Prairie Connector's key competitive advantages?

Theresa Chen [Managing Director: Good morning. With respect to the open season for the Prairie Connector Project, can you discuss any early indications of commercial interest at this point, understanding that you are still very early on? In general, how are you thinking about competition for US-bound WCS egress from Enbridge and Energy Transfer, as well as the impact of incremental Venezuelan barrels flowing to the US Gulf Coast, potentially displacing WCS in path three? What do you see as Prairie Connector's key competitive advantages?

Speaker #6: Understanding that you are still very early on. And then in general, how are you thinking about competition for US-bound WCS egress? From Enbridge and Energy Transfer, as well as the impact of incremental Venezuelan barrels flowing to the US Gulf Coast, potentially displacing WCS in Path 3.

Speaker #6: What do you see as Prairie Connector's key competitive advantages?

Speaker #4: Thank you, Theresa. This is Bevin, and thanks for joining the coverage group. So to direct our to your question on the Prairie Connector, we are in early stages as I mentioned.

Bevin Wirzba: Thank you, Theresa. This is Bevin, and thanks for joining the coverage group. To your question on the Prairie Connector, you know, we are in early stages, as I mentioned. I did say in our remarks that we are a customer-led strategy, meaning that we had good alignment with our customers heading into the open season. That's as much as I can share with respect to the outcome of the open season at this time. Obviously, in addressing your second question, the impacts of the other open seasons in Venezuela, my earlier remarks also focused on providing the most competitive solution for our customers, and we believe what we've put forward is a very competitive offering that should attract the attention that we're looking for.

Speaker #4: We did say in our remarks that we are a customer-led strategy, meaning that we had good alignment with our customers heading into the open season.

Speaker #4: So that's as much as I can share with respect to the outcome of the open season at this time. Obviously, we in addressing your second question, the impacts of the other open seasons in Venezuela, my earlier remarks also focused on providing the most competitive solution for our customers and we believe what we've put forward is a very competitive offering.

Speaker #4: That should attract the attention that we're looking for. So with respect to the other opportunities, owning and controlling the most competitive and direct path to the Gulf Coast has always been an advantage that South Bow has leveraged.

Bevin Wirzba: With respect to the other opportunities, owning and controlling the most competitive and direct path to the Gulf Coast has always been an advantage that South Bow has leveraged, and we will continue to do so.

Speaker #4: And we will continue to do so.

Speaker #6: Thank you. And in relation to the existing keystone system, after sharing the root cause analysis related to milepost 171, can you talk about the timeline of lifting the pressure restrictions in a phased manner?

Theresa Chen: Thank you. In relation to the existing Keystone system, after sharing the root cause analysis related to milepost 171, can you talk about the timeline of lifting the pressure restrictions in a phased manner? Can you give some details around this? What are your expectations for how much the pressure and hydraulic capacity could step up beginning in second half of 2026? Within your annual guidance, how much of an impact is this given expected capacity for higher spot movements, but also the expectations for tight differentials nonetheless? Can you help us reconcile this?

Theresa Chen [Managing Director: Thank you. In relation to the existing Keystone system, after sharing the root cause analysis related to milepost 171, can you talk about the timeline of lifting the pressure restrictions in a phased manner? Can you give some details around this? What are your expectations for how much the pressure and hydraulic capacity could step up beginning in second half of 2026? Within your annual guidance, how much of an impact is this given expected capacity for higher spot movements, but also the expectations for tight differentials nonetheless? Can you help us reconcile this?

Speaker #6: Can you give some details around this? What are your expectations for how much the pressure and hydraulic capacity could step up beginning in the second half of 2026?

Speaker #6: And then within your annual guidance, how much of an impact is this given expected capacity for higher spot movements, but also the expectations for tight differentials nonetheless?

Speaker #6: Can you help us reconcile this?

Speaker #4: Yeah, thank you, Theresa. Even initially after the incident, as Richard pointed out, we've been working very closely with our regulator and on all the remedial efforts, and we've made tremendous progress on the digs and inline inspections to date.

Bevin Wirzba: Yeah. Thank you, Theresa. Even initially after the incident, as Richard pointed out, we've been working very closely with our regulator and all the remedial efforts, and we've made tremendous progress on the digs and inline inspections to date. Early on, we were able to have some derates lifted already on the system as we progress. What we've described in our release is that we intend to continue those remedial efforts at pace here this year so that we could see a lifting of the corrective action order by the end of this year. We're in active dialogue with the regulator to ensure that what we're doing and what we're finding informs the plans as we go forward.

Speaker #4: And early on, we did we were able to have some derates lifted already on the system as we progress. And so what we've described in our release is that we intend to continue those remedial efforts at pace here this year.

Speaker #4: So that we could see a lifting of the correction act action order by the end of this year. We're very we're an active dialogue with the regulator to ensure that what we're doing and what we're finding informs the plans as we go forward.

Bevin Wirzba: In terms of the capacity that would be realized, it would be returning back to the kind of operational capacity that we delivered in previous years, which was, you know, I believe in 2024 and early 2025, we were just north of 600,000 barrels a day of delivered capacity. With respect to your last part of the question, you know, Our outlook in terms of our earnings and our guidance, the timing of this incident kind of occurred where arbs were quite tight. With TMX coming on in the early part of 2024, the basin was long pipe by approximately 250,000 barrels a day. In 2025, we saw the basin grow north of 100,000 barrels a day and continuing to grow here in 2026.

Speaker #4: In terms of the capacity that would be realized, it would be returning back to the kind of operational capacity that we delivered in previous years.

Speaker #4: Which was I believe in 2024 and early 2025, we were just north of 600,000 barrels a day of delivered capacity. With respect to the your last part of the question, we our outlook in terms of our earnings and our guidance, the timing of this incident kind of occurred where ARBs were quite tight with TMX coming on in the early part of 2024, the basin was long piped by approximately 250,000 barrels a day.

Speaker #4: In 2025, we saw the basin grow north of 100,000 barrels a day and continuing to grow here in 2026. So we believe that our guidance while it includes the impact of not being able to move as many spot volumes as we had hoped, the market really doesn't really open for us until early 2027.

Bevin Wirzba: We believe that, our guidance, while it includes, you know, the impact of not being able to move as many spot volumes as we had hoped, the market doesn't really open for us until early 2027. At that point, we're planning and targeting to have the de-rates lifted so we can take advantage of those ARBs, as the basin grows and overtakes kind of this egress out of the basin.

Speaker #4: And at that point, we should be we're planning and targeting to have the derates lifted so we can take advantage of those ARBs as the basin grows and overtakes kind of the egress out of the basin.

Speaker #6: Thank you very much.

Jeremy Tonet: Thank you very much.

Theresa Chen [Managing Director: Thank you very much.

Operator: One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Robert Hope from Scotiabank. Your line is open.

Speaker #4: One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from line of Robert Hope from Scotiabank. Your line is open.

Robert Hope: Morning, everyone. Two questions on the Prairie Connector. Maybe first just in terms of a follow-up on when you think incremental capacity will be needed out of the basin, and then how would that mesh with what you would think would be a, you know, reasonable regulatory timeframe and construction timeframe if this project does proceed?

Speaker #7: Morning, everyone. Two questions on the Prairie Connector. Maybe first, just in terms of a follow-up on when you think incremental capacity will be needed out of the basin and then how would that mesh with what you would think would be a reasonable regulatory timeframe and construction timeframe if this project does proceed?

Robert Hope [Director: Morning, everyone. Two questions on the Prairie Connector. Maybe first just in terms of a follow-up on when you think incremental capacity will be needed out of the basin, and then how would that mesh with what you would think would be a, you know, reasonable regulatory timeframe and construction timeframe if this project does proceed?

Speaker #4: Thanks, Rob. One of the benefits of having a strategy that focuses on our pre-invested corridors is that we're in a position where our permits are in place in Canada.

Bevin Wirzba: Thanks, Rob. One of the benefits of having a strategy that focuses on our pre-invested corridors is that we're in a position where our permits are in place in Canada for the Prairie Connector, and we're working close with the Canada Energy Regulator to manage through that. Obviously, it's early stages, so we're not going to share our timelines for a potential development timeline. I would suggest much like the Blackrod project, where we were working within an existing corridor, our ability to advance construction quickly in a regulated environment, is consistent with the Prairie Connector project kind of objectives.

Speaker #4: For the Prairie Connector. And we're working close with the Canadian Energy Regulator to manage through that. Obviously, it's early stages. So we're not going to share our timelines for a potential development timeline, but I would suggest much like the Black Rod project where we were working within an existing corridor, our ability to advance construction quickly in a regulated environment is consistent with the Prairie Connector project kind of objectives.

Bevin Wirzba: With respect to timeline of the need for the project, you can see that from our customer base that most are announcing or are suggesting that they have growth ambitions over the next three to five years of quite materiality. Being able to develop the project in the mid-tier term would be consistent with providing a competitive solution for our customers at the timeframe of when they're intending to have their production growth.

Speaker #4: With respect to the timeline of the need for the project, you could see that from our customer base, that most are announcing or are suggesting that they have growth ambitions over the next three to five years of quite materiality.

Speaker #4: And so being able to develop the project over the next in the mid-term would be consistent with providing a competitive solution for our customers at the timeframe of when they're intending to have their production growth.

Speaker #7: All right. Appreciate that, Keller. And then maybe as a follow-up, as we take a look at the what the Prairie Connector would connect into in the US and the path down to the Gulf Coast, we've seen Bridger file already for some regulatory approvals there.

Robert Hope: All right. Appreciate that color. Maybe as a follow-up, you know, as we take a look at the, what the Prairie Connector would connect into in the US and the path down to the Gulf Coast, you know, we've seen Bridger file already for some regulatory approvals there. How do you envision working with partners to help get barrels down to the Gulf Coast?

Robert Hope [Director: All right. Appreciate that color. Maybe as a follow-up, you know, as we take a look at the, what the Prairie Connector would connect into in the US and the path down to the Gulf Coast, you know, we've seen Bridger file already for some regulatory approvals there. How do you envision working with partners to help get barrels down to the Gulf Coast?

Speaker #7: But how do you envision working with partners to help get barrels down to the Gulf Coast?

Speaker #4: Yeah, great question, Rob. We won't speak on behalf of other developers, but what I can say is our team has learned through many previous projects that allocating risk appropriately amongst all stakeholders or customers ourselves as developers, partners, is really critical.

Bevin Wirzba: Yeah. Great question, Rob. We won't speak on behalf of, you know, other developers. What I can say is our team has learned through many previous projects that allocating risk appropriately amongst all stakeholders or customers, ourselves as developers, partners, is really critical. The team has been working diligently on that front to ensure that we have the right alignment amongst all stakeholders to ensure that we have a project that could be advanced within our risk preferences, which, as I've stated is critical. We will not sacrifice our capital allocation discipline through advancing any project.

Speaker #4: And so the team has been working diligently on that front to ensure that we have the right alignment amongst all stakeholders to ensure that we have a project that could be advanced within our risk preferences, which, as I've stated, is critical.

Speaker #4: We will not sacrifice our capital allocation discipline through advancing any project.

Speaker #7: All right. Appreciate the Keller. Seems like an interesting project. Thank you.

Robert Hope: All right. Appreciate the color. Seems like an interesting project. Thank you.

Robert Hope [Director: All right. Appreciate the color. Seems like an interesting project. Thank you.

Speaker #4: Thanks, Rob.

Bevin Wirzba: Thanks, Rob.

Speaker #7: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from line of Robert Kwan from RVC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Robert Kwan from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Speaker #8: Great. Thank you. Good morning. If I can just ask about how your growth initiatives, I'm just wondering is there a preference or do you how do you think about the role of joint ventures and partnerships versus just outright acquisitions kind of over and about the organic initiatives?

Robert Kwan: Great. Thank you. Good morning. If I can just ask about how are your growth initiatives. I'm just wondering, is there a preference or how do you think about the role of joint ventures and partnerships versus just outright acquisitions, kind of over and above the organic initiatives?

Speaker #4: Yeah, thank you, Robert. The within our strategy, we've always said that leveraging that pre-invested capital on the ground and organic allows us to develop projects at that six to eight times EV to EBITDA build multiple.

Bevin Wirzba: Yeah. Thank you, Robert. You know, within our strategy, we've always said that leveraging that pre-invested capital on the ground and organic allows us to develop projects at that, you know, 6 to 8x EV/EBITDA build multiple. Blackrod was demonstrated at the low end of that range. Clearly organic development that fits the needs of our customers with the same risk preferences that we've been able to achieve with even our base operations is far more accretive for shareholders over the long term. As I pointed out in my remarks, to complement that organic strategy, there are opportunities that we believe we could leverage inorganically that provide the diversity and provide some additional synergies to the business.

Speaker #4: And Black Rod was demonstrated at the low end of that range. And so clearly, organic development that fits the needs of our customers with the same risk preferences that we've been able to achieve with even our base operations is far more creative for shareholders over the long term.

Speaker #4: But as I pointed out in my remarks, to complement that organic strategy, there are opportunities that we believe we could leverage inorganically that provide the diversity and provide some additional synergies to the business.

Speaker #4: Now, obviously, those aren't being—those won't advance at that same EV-to-EBITDA build multiple, but the combination of an organic and inorganic strategy, we believe, can deliver the shareholder returns we're targeting.

Bevin Wirzba: obviously, those won't advance at that same EV to EBITDA build multiple, the combination of an organic and inorganic strategy, we believe, can deliver, the shareholder returns we're targeting.

Robert Kwan: Great. Thanks. I would just finish asking about the open season. There's some language there about asking potential shippers to demonstrate market demand for incremental egress opportunities. Just wondering what we should take away from that specific wording. How should we think about this with respect to the existing Keystone capacity and your contract, rollovers or expirations that would occur in roughly the same proximity as this initiative.

Speaker #8: Great, thanks. And as I could just finish asking about the open season, there's some language there about asking potential shippers to demonstrate market demand for incremental egress opportunities.

Speaker #8: So just wondering what we should take away from that specific wording, and then how should we think about this with respect to the existing Keystone capacity and your contract rollovers or expirations that would occur in roughly the same proximity as this initiative?

AJ O'Donnell: To the existing Keystone capacity and your contract, rollovers or expirations that would occur in roughly the same proximity as this initiative.

Bevin Wirzba: Two great points, Robert. First of all, the language is actually pretty benign in that, you know, from a regulatory standard, we have to prove need and necessity for any development that happens. That need and necessity on our existing permits was demonstrated years ago, and that need and necessity still exists today. By the language is really pointing to that our customers are indicating to us if they support the open season, that they have need and necessity, they have growth ambitions that require us to develop this capacity. On the second point with respect to base Keystone operations, and impact potential of recontracting, the way we think about it is we're really developing a corridor, and this Prairie Connector would be in addition to that corridor.

Speaker #4: Two great points, Robert. First of all, the language is actually pretty benign in that, from a regulatory standard, we have to prove need and necessity for any development that happens.

Speaker #4: That need and necessity on our existing permits was demonstrated years ago. And that need and necessity still exists today. And so, by the language, it's really pointing to that our customers are indicating to us, if they support the open season, that they have need and necessity.

Speaker #4: They have growth ambitions that require us to develop this capacity. On the second point, with respect to base Keystone operations and the impact potential of re-contracting, the way we think about it is we're really developing a corridor.

Speaker #4: And this Prairie Connector would be in addition to that corridor, and it really serves the same customer base and the same demand markets. And so we believe that the combination of the two would be an extremely competitive corridor going forward.

Bevin Wirzba: It really serves the same customer base and the same demand markets. We believe that the combination of the two would be an extremely competitive corridor going forward. We believe that we can provide that competitive solution for customers going forward, making the corridor in and of itself, you know, the ideal solution for getting Canadian, Western Canadian oil sands production down to the Gulf Coast.

Speaker #4: And we believe that we can provide that competitive solution for customers going forward, making the corridor, in and of itself, the ideal solution for getting Canadian and Western Canadian oil sands production down to the Gulf Coast.

Speaker #8: Okay. That's great. Thanks, Bevin. Appreciate the thoughts.

AJ O'Donnell: Okay. That's great. Thanks, Devin. Appreciate the thoughts.

Robert Kwan: Okay. That's great. Thanks, Devin. Appreciate the thoughts.

Operator: One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Sam Burwell from Jefferies. Your line is open.

Speaker #7: One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Sam Burwell from Jefferies. Your line is open.

Speaker #9: Yeah, good morning, guys. Another open season question, but maybe from a different angle. Are there any learnings to be had from what happened with the original Keystone XL?

Sam Burwell: Hey, good morning, guys. Another open season question, but maybe from a different angle. Like, are there any learnings to be had from what happened with the original Keystone XL? Like, especially on the US side? I mean, anything that went wrong on that project that's within your control to perhaps do differently with this one? I mean, obviously, the route will be different and it's different in many ways, but just curious, like what gives you more confidence in this project, its success, where Keystone XL didn't?

Sam Burwell [VP: Hey, good morning, guys. Another open season question, but maybe from a different angle. Like, are there any learnings to be had from what happened with the original Keystone XL? Like, especially on the US side? I mean, anything that went wrong on that project that's within your control to perhaps do differently with this one? I mean, obviously, the route will be different and it's different in many ways, but just curious, like what gives you more confidence in this project, its success, where Keystone XL didn't?

Speaker #9: Especially on the US side. I mean, anything that went wrong on that project that's within your control to perhaps do differently with this one?

Speaker #9: I mean, obviously, the route will be different, and it's different in many ways. But just curious, what gives you more confidence in this project's success where Keystone XL didn't?

Bevin Wirzba: Sam, great question. You know, I was around and many of our team were around during that initial or the last attempt. There are a tremendous amount of learnings. With subject to the permit that we have, we're developing it in a very consistent manner to that permit requirements. Our conversations with our customers, and how we can work with them through a commercial offering, we're leveraging a lot of those learnings in those commercial discussions that obviously are confidential at this time. Certainly there were, as I mentioned in my opening remarks, is that the policy environment in North America has been far more constructive.

Speaker #4: Sam, great question. I was around and many of our team were around during that initial or the last attempt. And so there are tremendous amount of learnings with subject to the permit that we have.

Speaker #4: We're developing it in a very consistent manner to meet permit requirements. But our conversations with our customers, and how we can work with them through a commercial offering, we're leveraging a lot of those learnings and those commercial discussions that obviously are confidential at this time.

Speaker #4: Certainly, there were—as I mentioned in my opening remarks—the policy environment in North America has been far more constructive. The unfortunate events that are ongoing in Iran and what we've had in the tragic events in Ukraine really have demonstrated that energy security and establishing energy corridors is critical.

Bevin Wirzba: The unfortunate events that are ongoing in Iran and what we've had in the tragic events in Ukraine really have demonstrated that energy security and establishing energy corridors is critical. Those realities are a great backdrop for us to provide maybe a solution that increases energy security in North America, between the great resource up in Canada to the strong demand markets in the US Gulf Coast.

Speaker #4: And so those realities are a great backdrop for us to provide maybe a solution that increases energy security in North America between the Great Resource up in Canada to the strong demand markets in the US Gulf Coast.

Speaker #9: Okay, understood. And then, sort of tying onto that—the Bridger proposal mentioned that presidential permits are required to cross the border. So, I'm just curious, that was obviously an issue with Keystone XL that everyone knows about.

Sam Burwell: Okay. Understood. Like, sort of tying on to that, like the Bridger proposal mentioned that presidential permits required to cross the border. Just curious, like that was obviously a issue with Keystone XL that everyone knows about, but is there a point in time or a point in construction or some threshold met whereby the presidential permit is kind of ironclad and can't be revoked? Like, has anything changed with that dynamic since 2021 when Biden effectively put the kibosh on Keystone XL?

Sam Burwell [VP: Okay. Understood. Like, sort of tying on to that, like the Bridger proposal mentioned that presidential permits required to cross the border. Just curious, like that was obviously a issue with Keystone XL that everyone knows about, but is there a point in time or a point in construction or some threshold met whereby the presidential permit is kind of ironclad and can't be revoked? Like, has anything changed with that dynamic since 2021 when Biden effectively put the kibosh on Keystone XL?

Speaker #9: But is there a point in time or a point in construction or some threshold met whereby the presidential permit is kind of ironclad and can't be revoked?

Speaker #9: And just, has anything changed with that dynamic since 2021, when Biden effectively put the kibosh on Keystone XL?

Speaker #4: Yeah. Perm right earlier remarks, Sam, we're only going to talk to our component of a project, which is delivering service from hardest state to the border.

Bevin Wirzba: Yeah. Per my earlier remarks, Sam, you know, we're only gonna talk to our component of a project, which is delivering service, you know, from Hardisty to the border. You know, my comments around risk allocation, and structuring and your earlier comment around lessons learned. There's a lot of things going into the commercial dialogue right now, amongst ourselves directly with our partners. I'll leave our partners to speak to their own business. We've really focused on finding a solution that we can deliver for our customers, the allocation of risk that makes sense for all stakeholders in this approach. If we're not able to achieve those, that risk allocation that we all believe that we need, the project just won't advance.

Speaker #4: And my comments around risk allocation and structuring, and your earlier comment around lessons learned—so there's a lot of things going into the commercial dialogue right now amongst ourselves.

Speaker #4: And then directly with our partners. And I'll leave our partners to speak to their own business. We've really focused on finding a solution that we can deliver for our customers.

Speaker #4: The allocation of risk that makes sense for all stakeholders in this approach. If we're not able to achieve that risk allocation that we all believe we need, then the project just won't advance.

Speaker #9: Okay. Understood. Thank you, Bevin.

Sam Burwell: Okay. Understood. Thank you, Devin.

Sam Burwell [VP: Okay. Understood. Thank you, Devin.

Speaker #4: Yeah. Thanks, Sam.

Bevin Wirzba: Yeah, thanks, Sam.

Speaker #7: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of AJ O'Donnell from TPH. Your line is open.

Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of AJ O'Donnell from TPH. Your line is open.

Speaker #10: Hey, morning, everyone. I'm going to sneak in one more about the Prairie Connector—maybe just talking about leveraging your existing corridor. I think we know that you guys have some pipe already in the ground.

AJ O'Donnell: Hey. Morning, everyone. I'm gonna sneak in one more about the Prairie Connector, maybe just talking about leveraging your existing corridor. You know, I think we know that you guys have some pipe already in the ground. In Canada. Let's say things go to plan and the project moves forward, thinking about these barrels getting into Cushing and ultimately getting down to the Gulf Coast. I'm wondering if you could speak to what's needed on your US Gulf Coast infrastructure in order to be able to accommodate potentially 450,000 barrels a day going down to the coast. Would that be all on the existing Keystone system, or would you be looking to leverage other infrastructure as well? Any details you can provide there would be great.

Speaker #10: In Canada, but let's say things go to plan and the project moves forward. Thinking about the barrels getting into cushioning and ultimately getting down to the Gulf Coast, I'm wondering if you could speak to what's needed on your US Gulf Coast infrastructure in order to be able to accommodate potentially 450,000 barrels a day going down to the coast.

Speaker #10: Would that be all on the existing Keystone system, or would you be looking to leverage other infrastructure as well? Any details you can provide there would be great.

Speaker #4: Yeah, AJ, the Keystone system in this corridor has been built in phases—phase one, phase two, phase three. And phase two and three were the extension of the Keystone system to Cushing and then to the Gulf Coast.

Bevin Wirzba: Yeah. AJ, you know, the Keystone system in this corridor has been built in phases, you know, phase one, phase two, phase three. Phase two and three was the extension of the Keystone system to Cushing and then to the Gulf Coast. Phase three of the system, the Gulf Coast, was sized and built for the original, the expansion of that system, which is what we're now building into with our Prairie Connector. It's just the continuation of that sequenced expansion of the broader Keystone system is what we're intending. You know, we did build capacity on that Gulf Coast section for increased volumes. There will be some facility modifications through our base Keystone system that will occur.

Speaker #4: And phase three of the system, the Gulf Coast, was sized and built for the original—the expansion of that system, which is what we're now building into with our Prairie Connector.

Speaker #4: And so it's just the continuation of that sequenced expansion of the broader Keystone system is what we're intending. There are some—we did build capacity on that Gulf Coast section for increased volumes.

Speaker #4: There will be some facility modifications through our base Keystone system. That will occur. But this is all just a continuation of kind of that sequenced expansion of our base corridor.

Bevin Wirzba: This is all just a continuation of kind of that sequenced expansion of our base corridor.

Speaker #10: Okay, thanks, Bevin. And then maybe just one more shift into marketing. I realize it's a smaller portion of your business, but spreads have been on the move.

AJ O'Donnell: Okay. Thanks, Bevin. Then maybe just one more shift into marketing. I realize it's a smaller portion of your business, but spreads have been on the move. Particularly, you know, WCS Houston's trading pretty far back from Brent and WTI right now. Curious if you could speak to kind of what is going on at WCS Houston, and if you're seeing any opportunities either in the short or medium term to potentially capture some upside there, either through marketing or maybe storage opportunities. Thanks.

Speaker #10: Particularly, WCS Houston is trading pretty far back from Brent and WTI right now. Curious if you could speak to what's going on at WCS Houston and if you're seeing any opportunities, either in the short or medium term, to potentially capture some upside there, either through marketing or maybe storage opportunities.

Speaker #10: Thanks.

Speaker #4: Yeah, AJ, that's a great question. We're always in a dynamic crude oil market. It appears in the last few years, with some macro volatility—earlier this year with Venezuela, now with the war that's ongoing in Iran.

Bevin Wirzba: AJ, that great question. You know, we're always in a dynamic crude oil market, as it appears in the last few years with some macro volatility earlier this year with Venezuela, now with the war that's ongoing in Iran. We've taken a really risk-off strategy with our marketing affiliate. As we pointed out, you know, last year we went through a situation where early in the year there were tariffs that caused volatility. That caused us to kind of reevaluate how we leverage our marketing affiliate and again, back to a customer-led strategy. The whole strategy around our marketing affiliate is really to kind of reduce the overall operating costs and variable pools for our customers.

Speaker #4: We've taken a really risk-off strategy with our marketing affiliate. As we've pointed out, last year we went through a situation where, early in the year, there were tariffs that caused volatility.

Speaker #4: That caused us to kind of reevaluate how we leverage our marketing affiliate and, again, back to a customer-led strategy. The whole strategy around our marketing affiliate is really to kind of reduce the overall operating costs and variable tolls for our customers.

Bevin Wirzba: We don't try to take advantage purposely on any of the swings that we see down in Houston on the WCS. We do manage and contract Marketlink because we still have capacity there. We have seen some movements, as you say, but it's really a non-material part of our strategy. You know, we're focused on our, you know, 90% of our business is contracted and just managing that as best we can.

Speaker #4: And so we don't try to take advantage purposely on any of the swings that we see down in Houston on the WCS. We do manage and contract market link because we still have capacity there.

Speaker #4: And so we have seen some movements, as you say, but it's really a non-material part of our strategy. We're focused on our—90% of our business is contracted—and just managing that as best we can.

Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Aaron MacNeil from TD Cowen. Your line is open.

Speaker #7: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Ben Fullerton from TD Callen. Your line is open.

Aaron MacNeil: I guess, I had my associate run this one. It's Aaron MacNeil here. Good morning, all. Thanks for taking my questions. You guys highlighted Blackrod as a successful project in the context of the balance sheet in your prepared remarks. Maybe bigger picture, can you speak to how you may look to finance a potentially larger capital and longer duration project given the leverage and payout ratio profile of South Bow?

Speaker #9: Oh, I guess I had my associate run this one. It's Aaron McNeil here. So morning, all. Thanks for taking my questions. You guys highlighted Blackrod as a successful project.

Speaker #9: In the context of the balance sheet in your prepared remarks—maybe bigger picture—can you speak to how you may look to finance a potentially larger capital and longer-duration project, given the leverage and payout ratio profile of South Bow?

Speaker #4: Yeah. Thanks, Aaron. We at our investor day, we kind of laid out a number of the different financing strategies. Whether it's financing a project at the asset level or whether it's partnering with other capital sources, we will look at the specifics of any kind of capital project to ensure that we manage the cost of capital, as well as match it to the execution risk.

Bevin Wirzba: Yeah. Thanks, Aaron. At our investor day, we kinda laid out a number of the different financing strategies, whether it's financing a project at the asset level or whether it's partnering with other capital sources. We will look at the specifics of any kinda capital project to ensure that we, you know, manage the cost of capital as well as, you know, match it to the execution risk.

Bevin Wirzba: I think the point I'd like to make though is when you think about us developing projects, going back to my comments around within our risk preferences, means that, you know, we're not going to take risks that wouldn't allow us to debt finance something. That can be a base case for people to look at is, you know, you have to have the conditions and the contract terms and the, you know, investment-grade counterparties, and the risks mitigated to a level that can attract debt level financing that aligns with our risk preferences. Now, that might not be the best way to finance it, but the principles around managing the risks are consistent with any kind of financing approach.

Speaker #4: I think the point I'd like to make, though, is when you think about us developing projects going back to my comments around within our risk preferences, means that when you're we're not going to take risks that wouldn't allow us to debt finance something.

Speaker #4: And that can be a base case for people to look at is you have to have the conditions and the contract terms and the investment grade counterparties and the risks mitigated to a level that can attract debt-level financing that aligns with our risk preferences.

Speaker #4: Now, that might not be the best way to finance it, but the principles around managing the risks are consistent with any kind of financing approach.

Speaker #4: And so we wanted to make clear to our market in November that there's multiple solutions on that front. But I want to just remind that we go back to our risk preferences and making sure that anything we develop meets those criteria.

Bevin Wirzba: We wanted to make clear to our market in November that there's multiple solutions on that front. I wanted to just remind that we go back to our risk preferences and making sure that anything we develop meets those criteria.

Van Dafoe: Aaron, it's Van here. We'll also keep with our de-leveraging journey to get to 4 times kind of by that midterm 2028. We're not deviating from that.

Speaker #7: And Aaron, it's Ben here. We'll also keep with our deleveraging journey to get to 4x kind of by that midterm, 2028. So we're not deviating from that.

Van Dafoe: Aaron, it's Van here. We'll also keep with our de-leveraging journey to get to 4 times kind of by that midterm 2028. We're not deviating from that.

Speaker #9: Okay, that's helpful. And then, switching gears a bit, we've been fielding a lot of questions on the Grand Rapids arbitration. I can appreciate that you're not going to speak to the ongoing legal matter, but I was just hoping you could help with some clarifying items.

Aaron MacNeil: Okay, that's helpful. Switching gears a bit, you know, we've been fielding a lot of questions on the Grand Rapids arbitration. I can appreciate that you're not gonna speak to the ongoing legal matter, but I was just hoping you could help with some clarifying items. First, again, I assume the answer is no here, but is the Blackrod Connection Project included in the scope of a potential sale? Second, how should we be thinking about sanctioning new projects with connectivity to Grand Rapids while arbitration is ongoing?

Speaker #9: So first, again, I assume the answer is no here, but is the Blackrod connection project included in the scope of a potential sale? And then second, how should we be thinking about sanctioning new projects with connectivity to Grand Rapids while arbitration is ongoing?

Speaker #7: Yeah, so Aaron, Blackrod—we advanced as South Bow alone. Petra China is not involved in that project. They were offered an opportunity to participate in it.

Bevin Wirzba: Yeah. Aaron, Blackrod, we advanced as South Bow alone. PetroChina is not involved in that project. They were offered an opportunity to participate in it, that's as much as I can say. As part of the partnership agreement, when we do pursue growth, that's obviously growth within the partnership frame, is open to all partners. Whether or not our partners choose to capitalize into those projects is up to them.

Speaker #7: And that's as much as I can say. As part of the partnership agreement, when we do pursue growth, that's obviously growth within the partnership frame.

Speaker #7: It's open to all partners, and whether or not our partners choose to capitalize into those projects is up to them.

Speaker #9: Okay. All right. Thanks, that's all from me. Turn it back.

Aaron MacNeil: Okay. All right. Thanks. That's all for me. Turn it back.

Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. The next question will come line of Robert Catellier from CIBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Speaker #7: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Robert Cattelier from CIBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Speaker #10: Hey, good morning. Most of my questions have been exhausted here, but I’ll take a shot in the dark to see if you’re interested in putting out a potential capital number for the Priority Connector project, should it make it through the open season and have enough commercial interest.

Robert Catellier: Hey, good morning. Most of my questions have been exhausted here, but I'll take a shot in the dark to see if you're interested in putting out a potential capital number for the Prairie Connector Project should it make it through the open season and have enough commercial interest.

Bevin Wirzba: Yeah, Robert, unfortunately, you're not gonna bait me with that. I'll take a pass. We're obviously in early stages. Our team has done a good amount of work, obviously, given it's an existing corridor, but we're not establishing any costs at this point in time.

Speaker #4: Yeah, Robert, unfortunately you’re not going to bait me with that. I’ll take a pass. We’re obviously in the early stages. Our team has done a good amount of work—obviously, given it’s an existing corridor—but we’re not establishing any costs at this point in time.

Robert Catellier: Yeah. I understood. Related to that, you know, is there any ability or understanding that you can invest in some of the downstream pieces, you know, whether it's Bridger's project or otherwise, should the project move forward?

Speaker #10: Yeah, I understood. Related to that, is there any ability or understanding that you can invest in some of the downstream pieces? Whether it's Bridger's project or otherwise, should the project move forward?

Bevin Wirzba: We're really speaking to the Prairie Connector component is, you know, how we're looking to participate going forward. We're still in commercial discussions ongoing. As you could appreciate, with the scale of what would be contemplated in Canada, that's a very meaningful development for South Bow.

Speaker #4: We're really speaking to the Prairie Connector component as how we're looking to participate going forward. And we're still in commercial discussions ongoing. But as you could appreciate, the scale of what would be contemplated in Canada, that's a very meaningful development for South Bow.

Speaker #10: Okay. Thanks very much.

Robert Catellier: Okay. Thanks very much.

Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes the line of Jeremy Tonet from J.P. Morgan Securities. Your line is open.

Speaker #7: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Jeremy Tonett from JPMorgan Securities. Your line is open.

Speaker #11: Hi. Good morning.

Jeremy Tonet: Hi, good morning.

Speaker #4: Good morning, Jeremy.

Bevin Wirzba: Morning, Jeremy.

Jeremy Tonet: Just wanted to turn to slide 19, if we could, with Blackrod and project ramp there. If you could just, I guess, remind us, you know, what gives you confidence to the ramp as you laid out in the slide. Looks like the 2027 contribution could be 3 to 4 times the size of 2026, in with the project just online now. Wondering if you could walk us through that a little bit more.

Speaker #11: Just wanted to turn to slide 19, if we could, with the Blackrod and project ramp there. If you could just, I guess, remind us what gave you confidence to the ramp as you laid out in the slide?

Speaker #11: Looks like the '27 contribution could be three to four times the size of '26, with the project just online now. Wondering if you could walk us through that a little bit more.

Speaker #4: Yeah. Great question, Jeremy. We did the final tie-in weld earlier this year, so our systems are fully prepared. For our customer, to begin the ramp-up, the sequence of events that we're not in control of are obviously on their end.

Bevin Wirzba: Yeah. Great question, Jeremy. We did the final tie in weld earlier this year, so our systems are fully prepared for our customer to begin the ramp up. The sequence of events that we're not in control over are obviously on their end whereby they would they've already been steaming their asset. Once the wells start producing, they will fill their tankage and infrastructure, fill the pipeline, and then fill our tankage. That's when the production will actually start hitting the Grand Rapids corridor. There's a build up that takes to effectively get through commissioning and filling the existing infrastructure. That happens through the balance of the last half of this year. Now, we have made comments in the market previously.

Speaker #4: Whereby they would—they've already been steaming their asset. Once the wells start producing, they will fill their tankage and infrastructure, fill the pipeline, and then fill our tankage.

Speaker #4: And then that’s when the production will actually start hitting the Grand Rapids corridor. So, there’s a build-up that it takes to effectively get through commissioning and filling the existing infrastructure.

Speaker #4: And that happens through the balance of the last half of this year. Now, we have made comments in the market previously. I'll just remind folks that the commercial agreements that were agreed to between ourselves and our customer were to acknowledge that ramp in terms of their production growth.

Bevin Wirzba: I'll just remind folks that, you know, the commercial agreements that were agreed to between ourselves and our customer were to acknowledge that ramp in terms of their production growth. Then in 2027, our outlook is that we'll have a full year contribution of that EBITDA, given the commercial agreements.

Speaker #4: And then in 2027, our outlook is that we'll have a full-year contribution of that EBITDA, given the commercial agreements.

Speaker #11: Got it. Understood. Thank you for that. And if we think about ’27 in totality, are there any other major moving pieces as we think about growth at that point in time?

Jeremy Tonet: Got it. Understood. Thank you for that. If we think about 27 in totality, are there any other major moving pieces as we think about growth at that point in time?

Speaker #4: Well, I'll refer to my previous remarks, Jeremy, where we're working hard this year to move through the corrective action order and complete the remedial efforts.

Bevin Wirzba: Well, I'll refer to my previous remarks, Jeremy, where we're working hard this year to move through the corrective action order and complete the remedial efforts, which would then allow us to have, if the order is lifted, then we would return to being able to be full capacity on our base systems, which would give an opportunity for us to achieve that spot capacity out of the basin at a more material level than what we're experiencing. Just to remind you that 94% of our base system is take-or-pay, and we reserve 6% for spot capacity. That is the capacity we're targeting to leverage in 2027.

Speaker #4: Which would then allow us to have—if the order is lifted—then we would return to being able to be full capacity on our base systems, which would give an opportunity for us to achieve that spot capacity out of the basin at a more material level than what we're experiencing.

Speaker #4: And just to remind you, 94% of our base system is take-or-pay, and we reserve 6% for spot capacity. So that is the capacity we're targeting to leverage in 2027.

Jeremy Tonet: Understood. I'll leave it there. Thank you.

Speaker #11: Understood. I'll leave it there. Thank you.

Speaker #4: Thanks, Jeremy.

Bevin Wirzba: Thanks, Jeremy.

Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Patrick Kenny from NBC. Your line is open.

Speaker #7: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Patrick Kenney from NBC, and your line is open.

Speaker #12: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Just maybe back on the funding plan for Prairie Connector. Assuming a successful open season here, I'm just wondering if you can confirm your desire for the Alberta government's involvement, if any—either as an equity partner or perhaps providing loan guarantees through construction.

Patrick Kenny: Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Just maybe back on the funding plan for Prairie Connector, assuming a successful open season here. Just wondering if you can confirm your desire for the Alberta government's involvement, if any, either as an equity partner or perhaps providing loan guarantees through construction just to, you know, help protect your financial guardrails along the way?

Speaker #12: Just to help protect your financial guardrails along the way.

Speaker #4: Thanks, Patrick. Certainly, you're kind of referring to the model that was pursued historically. And I believe the Premier has been pretty clear that she wants private developers to develop projects.

Bevin Wirzba: Thanks, Patrick. Certainly, you're kind of referring to the model that was pursued historically, I believe the Premier's been pretty clear that she wants private developers to develop projects. We're pursuing Prairie Connector as South Bow today. As with respect to your question around loan guarantees and other commercial matters, I'll just refer back to my comments that, you know, we're looking at the risk framework and allocating risks appropriately amongst the customers and us as a developer and broadly other stakeholders. We feel that we're in a different environment today where we're able to have those discussions and ensure that we've got good alignment of where those risks should be allocated.

Speaker #4: And so we're pursuing Prairie Connector as South Bow today. With respect to your question around loan guarantees and other commercial matters, I'll just refer back to my comments that we're looking at the risk framework and allocating risks appropriately.

Speaker #4: Amongst the customers and us as a developer, and broadly other stakeholders, we feel that we're in a different environment today where we're able to have those discussions and ensure that we've got good alignment of where those risks should be allocated.

Speaker #12: Got it. Thanks for that. And then maybe on the 60-day review period following the March 30th deadline, how should we think about this period just in terms of the binding commitments?

Patrick Kenny: Got it. Thanks for that. Maybe on the 60-day review period, you know, following the March 30th deadline. How should we think about this period just in terms of the binding commitments? You know, can they be nullified by any material change in policy such as, you know, the emissions cap, industrial carbon tax or any other developments that might come out of the MoU between Alberta and Ottawa? Would these binding commitments, you know, basically be taking on the full stroke of pen risk, so to speak, you know, beyond March 30th?

Speaker #12: Can they be nullified by any material change in policy, such as the emissions cap, industrial carbon tax, or any other developments that might come out of the MOU between Alberta and Ottawa?

Speaker #12: Or would these binding commitments basically be taken on the full stroke-of-hand risk, so to speak, beyond March 30th?

Speaker #4: Well, as you point out, Patrick, there's a lot going on. That when I refer to a constructive policy environment, constructive also means very active policy environment where our customers are working closely with not only ourselves on this open season, but considering the broader framework that the federal and Alberta government are putting together and that is obviously consistent with the timeline of what we're pursuing.

Bevin Wirzba: Well, as you point out, Patrick, there's a lot going on. You know that when I refer to a constructive, you know, policy environment, constructive also means a very active policy environment where our customers are working closely with not only ourselves on this open season, but considering the broader framework that the federal and Alberta government are putting together. That is obviously consistent with the timeline of what we're pursuing. You know, I'm not able to speak to kind of those conditions or those discussions because I'm not a part of them. Our timeline with having a binding open season, and the timeframe there is just the regulated approach of how you develop a project.

Speaker #4: I won't speak—I'm not able to speak to, kind of, those conditions or those discussions because I'm not a part of them. But our timeline with having a binding open season and the timeframe there is just the regulated approach of how you develop a project.

Bevin Wirzba: That's why we've really been thoughtful around making a competitive solution for our customers, acknowledging the significant commitment that they have to make, over the timeframe of the development to commit to a project like this. These are not small decisions by anyone. I think the basin customers have relayed that they're under the right policy environment. There is an ability for them to grow. We'll have to defer to them whether they feel that they have the confidence to grow into the capacity that we're offering.

Speaker #4: And that's why we've really been thoughtful around making a competitive solution for our customers, acknowledging the significant commitment that they have to make over the timeframe of the development to commit to a project like this.

Speaker #4: So these are not small decisions by anyone. I think the base and customers have relayed that they're under the right policy environment. There is an ability for them to grow and so we'll have to defer to them whether they feel that they have the confidence to grow into the capacity that we're offering.

Speaker #12: Okay. That's great. Bevin, I appreciate the comments.

Patrick Kenny: Okay. That's great, Ben. I appreciate the comments.

Speaker #4: Thanks, Patrick.

Bevin Wirzba: Thanks, Patrick.

Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Benjamin Pham from BMO. Your line is open.

Speaker #7: Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Benjamin Pham from BMO. Your line is open.

Speaker #11: I have asked him already, and maybe start off on potential acquisitions. Can South Bow provide an update on your appetite and observations on acquisitions since your investor day?

Benjamin Pham: Hi. Thanks. Good morning. Maybe start off on potential acquisitions. Can you talk both about updates on your appetite and observations on acquisitions since your Investor Day? I'm also particularly interested in valuation levels on M&A versus organic growth.

Speaker #11: And I'm also particularly interested in evaluation levels on M&A versus organic growth.

Speaker #4: Yeah, Bevin. I think as articulated in the investor day and even in my earlier remarks, we're pushing all the buttons down the field, both organic and inorganic.

Bevin Wirzba: Yeah, Ben, I think as articulated in the Investor Day and even in my earlier remarks, we're pushing all the buttons down the field, both organic and inorganic. Certainly, organic with leveraging our pre-invested corridors has better valuations. To complement and diversify our business, we've been in active dialogues to try to move down the path on inorganic opportunities. In both cases, as per even my last response to a previous question is, you know, we can put forward the most competitive organic opportunities for our customers, but it still takes our customers to decide if they can commit. On the inorganic side, we can provide a compelling Potential solution for an acquisition, but it takes the counterparty to similarly view it as a good outcome.

Speaker #4: Certainly, organic—with leveraging our pre-invested corridors—has better valuations. But to complement and diversify our business, we've been in active dialogue to try to move down the path on inorganic opportunities.

Speaker #4: In both cases—as Brave and my last response to a previous question—what we can do is put forward the most competitive organic opportunities for our customers, but it still takes our customers to decide if they can commit.

Speaker #4: And on the inorganic side, we can provide a compelling potential solution for an acquisition, but it takes the counterparty to similarly view it as a good outcome.

Speaker #4: So we're managing a kind of multi-pronged approach, where we're advancing conversations on organic and inorganic in parallel.

Bevin Wirzba: We're managing a kind of multi-prong approach where we're advancing conversations on organic and inorganic in parallel.

Benjamin Pham: Maybe just quick follow-up on that. It sounds like you haven't seen, just with the market valuations expanding meaningfully since your investor day that, the spread between the two, they haven't widened since that time.

Speaker #11: Maybe just a quick follow-up on that. It sounds like you haven't seen—just with the market valuations expanding meaningfully since your investor day—that the spread between the two, they haven't widened since that time?

Bevin Wirzba: No. I think, obviously we've seen a flight to the energy sector and in particular to hard assets like infrastructure, so many have moved. I think that has just kind of raised the confidence in shareholders, in the space and the investment proposition that infrastructure has. I think it gives us more confidence in the equity capital markets if something did work on the inorganic side that it could be supported in a transaction. Yes, valuations have improved, but I think the strength and the thesis around infrastructure investment has strengthened as well. I think that's a... If anything, it's a slight tailwind for us.

Speaker #4: No, I think obviously we've seen a flight to the energy sector, and in particular to hard assets like infrastructure. So, many have moved. I think that has just kind of raised the confidence in shareholders in the space and the investment proposition that infrastructure has.

Speaker #4: So I think it gives us more confidence in the equity capital markets, if something did work on the inorganic side, that it could be supported in a transaction.

Speaker #4: So yes, valuations have improved, but I think the strength and the thesis around infrastructure investment has strengthened as well. So I think that's if anything, it's a slight tailwind for us.

Benjamin Pham: Got it. Maybe a follow-up on the Prairie Connector. You had the Big Sky proposal about a year ago. Are you able to maybe compare and contrast the two? Is it just simply more to downstream is changing, Canadian's unchanged? Secondarily on the Canadian permits, is that just simply a matter of reaffirming that with the CER? As you mentioned earlier in your commentary, just want to clarify that portion of it.

Speaker #11: Got it. And maybe a follow-up on the Priority Actor, and you had the Big Sky proposal about a year ago. Are you able to maybe compare and contrast the two?

Speaker #11: Is it just simply more to downstream is changing Canadians unchanged? And then secondarily on the Canadian permits, is that just simply a matter of reaffirming that with the CER?

Speaker #11: Is there, you mentioned earlier in your commentary—just more to clarify that portion of it?

Speaker #4: Yeah. So, in contrast to Big Sky, I think the most important thing is the macro environment. Obviously, at the time that we pursued Big Sky in January of 2025, we had a Canadian government that was going through a significant transition.

Bevin Wirzba: Yeah. In contrast to Big Sky, I think the most important thing is the macro environment. Obviously at the time that we pursued Big Sky in January 2025, we had a Canadian government that was going through a significant transition. We had a potential tariff environment that was very uncertain. We had a policy and regulatory framework that wasn't clear and didn't provide the signposts for our customers to legitimately view growth, any kind of meaningful growth as an alternative. Fast-forward a year later, all those three things have materially moved in the favor of a more constructive environment to consider a development.

Speaker #4: We had a potential tariff environment that was very uncertain. And we had a policy and regulatory framework that wasn't clear and didn't provide the signposts for our customers to legitimately view growth—any kind of meaningful growth—as an alternative.

Speaker #4: So fast forward a year later, all those three things have materially moved in the favor of a more constructive environment to consider a development.

Bevin Wirzba: We did find that this Prairie Connector Project, getting barrels to the US Gulf Coast, is a very strategic advantage, and leveraging that pre-invested corridor more broadly also provides advantages. That would be, you know, the comparison. With respect to the permitting situation, I mean, these are very complex developments. The largest of the permit requirements, as you say, are held with the Canada Energy Regulator. We have to work within those permits that have been awarded and, you know, there are expectations and things that we have to do to maintain them if we're able to begin developing the project. There are no other material permits that are required at this point in time.

Speaker #4: We did find that this Prairie Connector project, getting barrels to the US Gulf, is a strategic advantage. Leveraging that pre-invested corridor more broadly also provides advantages.

Speaker #4: So, that would be the comparison. With respect to the permitting situation, I mean, these are very complex developments. The largest of the permit requirements, as you say, are held with the Canadian Energy Regulator.

Speaker #4: We have to work within those permits that have been awarded, and there are expectations and things that we have to do to maintain them as we, if we're able to begin developing the project.

Speaker #4: There are no other material permits that are required at this point in time.

Speaker #11: Okay. Understood. Thank you.

Benjamin Pham: Okay. Understood. Thank you.

Bevin Wirzba: Thanks.

Speaker #4: Thanks, Ben.

Operator: One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Shneur Gershuni from UBS. Your line is open.

Operator: One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Sumantra Banerjee from UBS. Your line is open.

Speaker #11: One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of Sumantra Banerjee from UBS. Your line is open.

Shneur Gershuni: Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I was just curious about how you mentioned that you materially exited the TSA with PC and were able to see some workflow optimization. Was just curious about any specific examples of the optimization you could talk to?

Sumantra Banerjee: Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I was just curious about how you mentioned that you materially exited the TSA with PC and were able to see some workflow optimization. Was just curious about any specific examples of the optimization you could talk to?

Speaker #12: Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I was just curious about how you mentioned that you materially exited the CSA with TC and were able to see some workflow optimization.

Speaker #12: We're just curious about any specific examples of the optimization you could talk to.

Speaker #4: Yeah. Thanks, Sumantra. Our team had three objectives last year in addition to always the table stakes of safe operations. And one of those objectives was exiting the TSAs as soon as we could.

Bevin Wirzba: Yeah. Thanks, Shneur. The, our team had, you know, three objectives last year in addition to always, you know, table stakes of safe operations. One of those objectives was exiting the TSAs as soon as we could. That ties to one of our key objectives this year in terms of now optimizing our business workflows and processes. We've already begun seeing some optimizations occur even since October when we were effectively off of the TSAs. We've got a number of work streams along that front in each of the areas. You know, an easy example would be, you know, in terms of supply chain and procurement in utilizing the, you know, the historical ERP system that we had until we stood up our own system.

Speaker #4: And that ties to one of our key objectives this year in terms of now optimizing our business workflows and processes. So we've already begun seeing some optimizations occur even since October, when we were effectively off of the TSAs.

Speaker #4: And we've got a number of work streams along that front in each of the areas. And an easy example would be in terms of supply chain and procurement.

Speaker #4: In utilizing the historical ERP system that we had until we stood up our own system, all those business processes around invoicing and procurement were done in the old way.

Bevin Wirzba: All those business processes around invoicing and procurement were done in the old way. Now we're able to establish new procurement. We've got on financial planning and analysis and working on our systems. We've got a really good work stream on even building our new process around budgeting and real-time analysis of our financials and costs, giving the tools to our teams so that they can really run the business as efficiently as possible. We see 2026 as a big year of standing up all those optimizations. You know, there is obviously we're leveraging the latest technology in AI where it's appropriate and where it can help us make those processes more efficient.

Speaker #4: And now we're able to establish new procurement. We've got on financial planning and analysis and are working on our systems. We've got a really good workstream on even building our new process around budgeting and real-time analysis of our financials and costs.

Speaker #4: Giving the tools to our team so that they can really run the business as efficiently as possible. So, we see 2026 as a big year of standing up all those optimizations.

Speaker #4: And they're leveraging the latest technology in AI where it's appropriate and where it can help us make those processes more efficient.

Shneur Gershuni: Got it. That's really helpful. I just wanted to shift towards capital allocation really quickly. I know you outlined your priorities in the release, but just wanted to ask about how you're looking at balancing dividend growth versus reducing the leverage.

Sumantra Banerjee: Got it. That's really helpful. I just wanted to shift towards capital allocation really quickly. I know you outlined your priorities in the release, but just wanted to ask about how you're looking at balancing dividend growth versus reducing the leverage.

Speaker #12: Got it. That's really helpful. And just wanted to shift towards the capital allocation really quickly. I know you outlined your priorities in the release, but just wanted to ask about how you're looking at balancing dividend growth versus reducing the leverage.

Speaker #4: So I'll start, but I'll turn it over to Van on our dividend policy. What I just want to remind folks is that we're going to stick to our capital allocation philosophy with respect to building out this business.

Bevin Wirzba: I'll start, but I'll turn it over to Van on our dividend policy. You know, what I just wanna remind folks is that we're gonna stick to our capital allocation philosophy with respect to building out this business. You know, when we spun, we were allocated a significant amount of debt and then a very meaningful and sustainable dividend, but at a very high level and at payout ratios maybe a bit higher than we'd like. Maybe, Van, you can talk through our journey on deleveraging and dividend growth.

Speaker #4: And when we spun, we were allocated a significant amount of debt, and then a very meaningful and sustainable dividend. But at a very high level.

Speaker #4: And at payout ratios maybe a bit higher than we’d like. But maybe, Van, you can talk through our journey on deleveraging and dividend growth.

Speaker #13: Sure. Yeah. Thanks, Bevin. Our payout ratios on a DCF basis and on an earnings basis were higher than what we would like. We'd like them to be, kind of, on the DCF basis, in the low 60s on a consistent basis and, obviously, under 100% on an earnings basis.

Van Dafoe: Sure, yeah. thanks, Bevin. You know, our payout ratios on a DCF basis and on an earnings basis were higher than what we would like. We'd like them to be kind of on a DCF basis in the low 60s on a consistent basis and obviously under 100% on an earnings basis. Until that time, we would not even contemplate a dividend increase. On top of that, our journey to get to 4 times leverage, again, we wouldn't contemplate a dividend increase until we get to that point. Once we do, our plan would never be to forecast future dividend growth. If we decide we are gonna increase our dividend, we would state that, and that would be our new dividend level.

Speaker #13: So until that time, we would not even contemplate a dividend increase. On top of that, our journey to get to four times leverage again we wouldn't contemplate a dividend increase.

Speaker #13: Until we get to that point. And once we do, our plan would never be to forecast future dividend growth. If we decide we are going to increase our dividend, we would state that, and that would be our new dividend level.

Speaker #12: Got it. That's really helpful. Thank you so much.

Shneur Gershuni: Got it. That's really helpful. Thank you so much.

Sumantra Banerjee: Got it. That's really helpful. Thank you so much.

Operator: Thank you. This concludes the question and answer session. I would now like to turn it back over to Bevin for closing remarks.

Speaker #4: Thank you. And this concludes the question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn it back over to Bevin for closing remarks.

Speaker #2: Thank you for joining us today and for your continued interest in South Bow. We look forward to connecting with you in a couple of months' time.

Bevin Wirzba: Thank you for joining us today and for your continued interest in South Bow. We look forward to connecting with you in a couple months' time. Have a great day.

Speaker #2: Have a great day.

Operator: Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.

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