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Q4 2025 Stryker Corp Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Welcome to the fourth quarter and full year 2025 Stryker Earnings Call. My name is Leila, and I'll be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.
Operator: Welcome to the Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2025 Stryker Earnings Call. My name is Leila, and I'll be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Following the conference, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. This conference call is being recorded for replay purposes. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that the discussions during this conference call will include forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially are discussed in the company's most recent filings with the SEC. Also, the discussions will include certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in today's press release that is an exhibit to Stryker's current report on Form 8-K filed today with the SEC. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Kevin Lobo, Chair and Chief Executive Officer.
Operator: Welcome to the Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2025 Stryker Earnings Call. My name is Leila, and I'll be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Following the conference, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. This conference call is being recorded for replay purposes. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that the discussions during this conference call will include forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially are discussed in the company's most recent filings with the SEC. Also, the discussions will include certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in today's press release that is an exhibit to Stryker's current report on Form 8-K filed today with the SEC. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Kevin Lobo, Chair and Chief Executive Officer.
Speaker #1: Following the conference, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. This conference call is being recorded for replay purposes. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that the discussions during this conference call will include forward-looking statements.
Speaker #1: Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially are discussed in the company's most recent filings with the SEC. Also, the discussions will include certain non-GAAP financial measures.
Speaker #1: Reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in today's press release that is an exhibit to Stryker's current report on Form 8-K, filed today with the SEC.
Speaker #1: I will now turn the call over to Mr. Kevin Lobo, Chair and Chief Executive Officer. You may proceed.
Operator: You may proceed, sir.
You may proceed, sir.
Speaker #2: Welcome to Stryker's fourth quarter earnings call. Joining me today are Preston Wells, Stryker's CFO, and Jason Beach, Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations.
Kevin Lobo: Welcome to Stryker's Fourth Quarter Earnings Call. Joining me today are Preston Wells, Stryker's CFO, and Jason Beach, Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. For today's call, I'll provide opening comments, followed by Jason with the trends we saw during the quarter and some product updates. Preston will then provide additional details regarding our results and guidance before opening the call to Q&A. Our 2025 results were outstanding for both Q4 and the full year across all key financial metrics. Against double-digit comparisons from the prior year, organic sales growth was 11% for Q4 and 10.3% for the full year, surpassing $25 billion in sales. Globally, for the full year, our neurocranial, endoscopy, instruments, and trauma extremities businesses all delivered double-digit organic sales growth, demonstrating continued robust demand across our product portfolio. Full-year US organic sales growth was an impressive 11.2%, and international organic sales growth was 7.5%.
Kevin Lobo: Welcome to Stryker's Fourth Quarter Earnings Call. Joining me today are Preston Wells, Stryker's CFO, and Jason Beach, Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. For today's call, I'll provide opening comments, followed by Jason with the trends we saw during the quarter and some product updates. Preston will then provide additional details regarding our results and guidance before opening the call to Q&A. Our 2025 results were outstanding for both Q4 and the full year across all key financial metrics. Against double-digit comparisons from the prior year, organic sales growth was 11% for Q4 and 10.3% for the full year, surpassing $25 billion in sales. Globally, for the full year, our neurocranial, endoscopy, instruments, and trauma extremities businesses all delivered double-digit organic sales growth, demonstrating continued robust demand across our product portfolio. Full-year US organic sales growth was an impressive 11.2%, and international organic sales growth was 7.5%.
Speaker #2: For today’s call, I’ll provide opening comments, followed by Jason with the trends we saw during the quarter and some product updates. Preston will then provide additional details regarding our results and guidance before opening the call to Q&A.
Speaker #2: Our 2025 results were outstanding for both Q4 and the full year, across all key financial metrics. Against double-digit comparisons from the prior year, organic sales growth was 11% for Q4 and 10.3% for the full year, surpassing $25 billion in sales.
Speaker #2: Globally, for the full year, our neurocranial endoscopy instruments and trauma and extremities businesses all delivered double-digit organic sales growth, demonstrating continued robust demand across our product portfolio.
Speaker #2: Full-year U.S. organic sales growth was an impressive 11.2%, and international organic sales growth was 7.5%. International results were led by strong performances in our emerging markets, South Korea, and Japan.
Kevin Lobo: International results were led by strong performances in our emerging markets, South Korea, and Japan. These countries and our other international markets continue to represent significant growth opportunities for us, and we look forward to launching products internationally that have already demonstrated success in the United States. We also had excellent earnings and cash flow performance in 2025. While managing tariff headwinds, our teams delivered a second consecutive year of at least 100 basis points of adjusted operating margin expansion. This performance demonstrates strong operational execution and earnings power that we have been building up over time. Preston will cover cash flow, which is also a standout for us in 2025.
International results were led by strong performances in our emerging markets, South Korea, and Japan. These countries and our other international markets continue to represent significant growth opportunities for us, and we look forward to launching products internationally that have already demonstrated success in the United States. We also had excellent earnings and cash flow performance in 2025. While managing tariff headwinds, our teams delivered a second consecutive year of at least 100 basis points of adjusted operating margin expansion. This performance demonstrates strong operational execution and earnings power that we have been building up over time. Preston will cover cash flow, which is also a standout for us in 2025.
Speaker #2: These countries and our other international markets continue to represent significant growth opportunities for us, and we look forward to launching products internationally that have already demonstrated success in the United States.
Speaker #2: We also had excellent earnings and cash flow performance in 2025. While managing tariff headwinds, our teams delivered a second consecutive year of at least 100 basis points of adjusted operating margin expansion.
Speaker #2: This performance demonstrates strong operational execution and the earnings power that we have been building up over time. Preston will cover cash flow, which is also a standout for us in 2025.
Speaker #2: Overall, our financial results reflect the durability of our high-growth offense, with the following structural components: exceptional talent and culture, active M&A, a steady cadence of product launches, and systematic specialization by creating new business units and splitting sales forces.
Kevin Lobo: Overall, our financial results reflect the durability of our high-growth offense with the following structural components: exceptional talent and culture, active M&A, a steady cadence of product launches, and systematic specialization by creating new business units and splitting sales forces. The new SmartCare business unit within medical combines Vocera and care.ai, and we have split multiple sales forces in the past two years. One example is the new breast care sales force within endoscopy that launched at the beginning of 2025 and has contributed to their terrific growth. We have momentum entering 2026 and expect to continue delivering growth at the high end of med tech, which is reflected in our full-year 2026 guidance. Our financial position remains strong, providing firepower to execute on M&A in 2026.
Overall, our financial results reflect the durability of our high-growth offense with the following structural components: exceptional talent and culture, active M&A, a steady cadence of product launches, and systematic specialization by creating new business units and splitting sales forces. The new SmartCare business unit within medical combines Vocera and care.ai, and we have split multiple sales forces in the past two years. One example is the new breast care sales force within endoscopy that launched at the beginning of 2025 and has contributed to their terrific growth. We have momentum entering 2026 and expect to continue delivering growth at the high end of med tech, which is reflected in our full-year 2026 guidance. Our financial position remains strong, providing firepower to execute on M&A in 2026.
Speaker #2: The new SmartCare business unit within Medical combines Vocera and CareAI, and we have split multiple sales forces in the past two years. One example is the new Breast Care sales force within Endoscopy, that launched at the beginning of 2025 and has contributed to their terrific growth.
Speaker #2: We have momentum entering 2026 and expect to continue delivering growth at the high end of med tech, which is reflected in our full-year 2026 guidance.
Speaker #2: Our financial position remains strong, providing firepower to execute on M&A in 2026. I would like to thank our teams for another terrific year, fueled by their commitment to our mission and unwavering dedication to our customers.
Kevin Lobo: I would like to thank our teams for another terrific year fueled by their commitment to our mission and unwavering dedication to our customers. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Jason.
I would like to thank our teams for another terrific year fueled by their commitment to our mission and unwavering dedication to our customers. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Jason.
Speaker #2: With that, I will now turn the call over to Jason.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Kevin. My comments today will focus on providing an update on the current environment, as well as a few other highlights. Procedural volumes remain healthy in the fourth quarter, and we continue to expect the markets will remain strong in 2026, underscored by the continued adoption of robotic-assisted surgery, favorable demographics, and durable demand for our capital products.
Operator: Thanks, Kevin. My comments today will focus on providing an update on the current environment as well as a few other highlights. Procedural volumes remain healthy in the fourth quarter, and we continue to expect the markets will remain strong in 2026, underscored by the continued adoption of robotic-assisted surgery, favorable demographics, and durable demand for our capital products. Our US capital-related businesses delivered robust performance in the quarter, helping to drive double-digit organic sales growth for Q4 in our instruments, medical, and endoscopy divisions. Hospital CapEx budgets remain healthy, and our capital order book continues to be elevated as we enter 2026. Next, powered by Mako 4, we delivered a stunning quarter and year of Mako installations with yet another record quarter both in the US and worldwide. Our install base now includes more than 3,000 Mako systems worldwide.
Jason Beach: Thanks, Kevin. My comments today will focus on providing an update on the current environment as well as a few other highlights. Procedural volumes remain healthy in the fourth quarter, and we continue to expect the markets will remain strong in 2026, underscored by the continued adoption of robotic-assisted surgery, favorable demographics, and durable demand for our capital products. Our US capital-related businesses delivered robust performance in the quarter, helping to drive double-digit organic sales growth for Q4 in our instruments, medical, and endoscopy divisions. Hospital CapEx budgets remain healthy, and our capital order book continues to be elevated as we enter 2026. Next, powered by Mako 4, we delivered a stunning quarter and year of Mako installations with yet another record quarter both in the US and worldwide. Our install base now includes more than 3,000 Mako systems worldwide.
Speaker #3: Our U.S. capital-related businesses delivered robust performance in the quarter, helping to drive double-digit organic sales growth for Q4 in our Instruments, Medical, and Endoscopy divisions.
Speaker #3: Hospital CapEx budgets remain healthy, and our capital order book continues to be elevated as we enter 2026. Next, powered by MAKO 4, we delivered a stunning quarter and year of MAKO installations, with yet another record quarter, both in the U.S.
Speaker #3: and worldwide. Our install base now includes more than 3,000 MAKO systems worldwide. Alongside our record number of installations, we also continue to see steady increases in utilization, bolstering our number one position in the U.S.
Operator: Alongside our record number of installations, we also continue to see steady increases in utilization, bolstering our number one position in US knees and hips. As we exited the year, over 2/3 of our knees and over 1/3 of our hips were performed on Mako in the US. Globally, utilization rates were approximately 50% for knees and over 20% for hips. We have significant momentum heading into 2026 and continue to receive very positive feedback on the latest Mako applications, including advanced primary with revision hip, spine, as well as shoulder, which will launch on Mako 4 mid-year. Finally, Inari, which is now known as our peripheral vascular business, had a strong finish to the year, highlighted by robust procedural growth in the high teens that was partially offset by the stocking, which will be minimal in Q1.
Alongside our record number of installations, we also continue to see steady increases in utilization, bolstering our number one position in US knees and hips. As we exited the year, over 2/3 of our knees and over 1/3 of our hips were performed on Mako in the US. Globally, utilization rates were approximately 50% for knees and over 20% for hips. We have significant momentum heading into 2026 and continue to receive very positive feedback on the latest Mako applications, including advanced primary with revision hip, spine, as well as shoulder, which will launch on Mako 4 mid-year. Finally, Inari, which is now known as our peripheral vascular business, had a strong finish to the year, highlighted by robust procedural growth in the high teens that was partially offset by the stocking, which will be minimal in Q1.
Speaker #3: Needs and HIPS. As we exited the year, over two-thirds of our needs and over one-third of our HIPS were performed on MAKO in the U.S.
Speaker #3: Globally, utilization rates were approximately 50% for knees and over 20% for hips. We have significant momentum heading into 2026 and continue to receive very positive feedback on the latest MAKO applications, including advanced primary with revision hips, spine, as well as shoulder, which will launch on MAKO 4 mid-year.
Speaker #3: Finally, Inari, which is now known as our peripheral vascular business, had a strong finish to the year, highlighted by robust procedural growth in the high teens that was partially offset by destocking, which will be minimal in Q1.
Speaker #3: We are set up for success in 2026 as the business approaches its one-year anniversary as a part of Stryker. As a reminder, peripheral vascular is reported as part of our Vascular division results.
Operator: We are set up for success in 2026 as the business approaches its one-year anniversary as a part of Stryker. As a reminder, Peripheral Vascular is reported as part of our Vascular division results. With that, I will now turn the call over to Preston.
We are set up for success in 2026 as the business approaches its one-year anniversary as a part of Stryker. As a reminder, Peripheral Vascular is reported as part of our Vascular division results. With that, I will now turn the call over to Preston.
Speaker #3: With that, I will now turn the call over to Preston.
Speaker #4: Thanks, Jason. Today, I will focus my comments on the fourth quarter financial results and the related drivers. Our detailed financial results have been provided in today's press release.
Kevin Lobo: Thanks, Jason. Today, I will focus my comments on the fourth quarter financial results and the related drivers. Our detailed financial results have been provided in today's press release. Organic sales growth was 11% for the quarter compared to 10.2% in the fourth quarter of 2024, with the same number of selling days in both periods. Pricing had a slightly favorable impact, and additionally, foreign currency had a 1% favorable impact on sales. For the full year, our organic sales growth was 10.3% against a strong comparable of 10.2% in 2024. The impact from price was favorable by 0.4%, while foreign currency had a 0.5% favorable impact, and 2025 had one fewer selling day than 2024.
Preston Wells: Thanks, Jason. Today, I will focus my comments on the fourth quarter financial results and the related drivers. Our detailed financial results have been provided in today's press release. Organic sales growth was 11% for the quarter compared to 10.2% in the fourth quarter of 2024, with the same number of selling days in both periods. Pricing had a slightly favorable impact, and additionally, foreign currency had a 1% favorable impact on sales. For the full year, our organic sales growth was 10.3% against a strong comparable of 10.2% in 2024. The impact from price was favorable by 0.4%, while foreign currency had a 0.5% favorable impact, and 2025 had one fewer selling day than 2024.
Speaker #4: Organic sales growth was 11% for the quarter, compared to 10.2% in the fourth quarter of 2024, with the same number of selling days in both periods.
Speaker #4: Pricing had a slightly favorable impact. Additionally, foreign currency had a 1% favorable impact on sales. For the full year, our organic sales growth was 10.3% against a strong comparable of 10.2% in 2024.
Speaker #4: The impact from price was favorable by 0.4%, while foreign currency had a 0.5% favorable impact, and 2025 had one fewer selling day than 2024.
Speaker #4: Our fourth quarter adjusted earnings per share of $4.47 was up 11.5% from the same quarter last year, driven by sales growth and operating margin expansion, partially offset by tariffs, higher interest expense, and a higher effective tax rate.
Kevin Lobo: Our fourth quarter adjusted earnings per share of $4.47 was up 11.5% from the same quarter last year, driven by sales growth and operating margin expansion, partially offset by tariffs, higher interest expense, and a higher effective tax rate. Foreign currency translation had an unfavorable impact of $0.02. Our full-year adjusted earnings per share of $13.63 was up 11.8% from 2024, driven by our outstanding sales growth and a return to pre-COVID adjusted operating margins, with a second consecutive year of at least 100 basis points of expansion. Our margin expansion included improvements in gross margin from business mix and cost improvements despite the impact of tariffs. For the year, foreign currency translation had a favorable impact of $0.01. Now, I will provide some highlights around our quarterly segment performance. In the quarter, MedSurg and Neurotechnology had an exceptional organic sales growth of 12.6%, including U.S.
Our fourth quarter adjusted earnings per share of $4.47 was up 11.5% from the same quarter last year, driven by sales growth and operating margin expansion, partially offset by tariffs, higher interest expense, and a higher effective tax rate. Foreign currency translation had an unfavorable impact of $0.02. Our full-year adjusted earnings per share of $13.63 was up 11.8% from 2024, driven by our outstanding sales growth and a return to pre-COVID adjusted operating margins, with a second consecutive year of at least 100 basis points of expansion. Our margin expansion included improvements in gross margin from business mix and cost improvements despite the impact of tariffs. For the year, foreign currency translation had a favorable impact of $0.01. Now, I will provide some highlights around our quarterly segment performance. In the quarter, MedSurg and Neurotechnology had an exceptional organic sales growth of 12.6%, including U.S.
Speaker #4: Foreign currency translation had an unfavorable impact of $0.02. Our full year adjusted earnings per share of $13.63 was up 11.8% from 2024, driven by our outstanding sales growth and a return to pre-COVID adjusted operating margins, with a second consecutive year of at least 100 basis points of expansion. Our margin expansion included improvements in gross margin from business NICS and cost improvements, despite the impact of tariffs.
Speaker #4: For the year, foreign currency translation had a favorable impact of $0.01. Now, I will provide some highlights around our quarterly segment performance. In the quarter, MedSurg and Neurotechnology had exceptional organic sales growth of 12.6%, including U.S.
Speaker #4: Organic growth of 13%, and international organic growth of 10.9%. Instruments had U.S. organic sales growth of 19.1%, with high-teens growth from both our organic orthopedic instruments and Surgical Technologies businesses.
Kevin Lobo: Organic growth of 13% and international organic growth of 10.9%. Instruments had US organic sales growth of 19.1%, with high teens growth from both our orthopedic instruments and surgical technologies businesses. Performance was fueled by strong capital demand in power tools, Steri-Shield, smoke evacuation, and Neptune waste management. Endoscopy had US organic sales growth of 11.1%, led by robust double-digit performances from our sustainability and sports medicine businesses and high single-digit growth from our core endoscopy portfolio. We continue to see strong demand for our sports medicine shoulder products and 1788 video platform. Medical had US organic sales growth of 13.6% that included strong double-digit performances in acute care and Sage businesses. From a product perspective, medical's fourth quarter growth was driven by LIFEPAK 35, ProCuity, Vocera, and Sage products. We do not expect the supply constraints we experienced in 2025 to negatively impact growth rates in 2026.
Organic growth of 13% and international organic growth of 10.9%. Instruments had US organic sales growth of 19.1%, with high teens growth from both our orthopedic instruments and surgical technologies businesses. Performance was fueled by strong capital demand in power tools, Steri-Shield, smoke evacuation, and Neptune waste management. Endoscopy had US organic sales growth of 11.1%, led by robust double-digit performances from our sustainability and sports medicine businesses and high single-digit growth from our core endoscopy portfolio. We continue to see strong demand for our sports medicine shoulder products and 1788 video platform. Medical had US organic sales growth of 13.6% that included strong double-digit performances in acute care and Sage businesses. From a product perspective, medical's fourth quarter growth was driven by LIFEPAK 35, ProCuity, Vocera, and Sage products. We do not expect the supply constraints we experienced in 2025 to negatively impact growth rates in 2026.
Speaker #4: Performance was fueled by strong capital demand in power tools, stair shields, smoke evacuation, and Neptune waste management. Endoscopy had U.S. organic sales growth of 11.1%, led by robust double-digit performances from our Sustainability and Sports Medicine businesses and high single-digit growth from our core Endoscopy portfolio.
Speaker #4: We continue to see strong demand for our sports medicine shoulder products in the 1788 video platform. Medical had U.S. organic sales growth of 13.6%, which included strong double-digit performances in our acute care and Sage businesses.
Speaker #4: From a product perspective, Medical's fourth quarter growth was driven by LifePath 35, Proclivity, with Sarah and Sage products. We do not expect the supply constraints we experienced in 2025 to negatively impact growth rates in 2026.
Speaker #4: Vascular had U.S. organic sales growth of 4.3%, reflecting a strong double-digit performance in our hemorrhagic business that was powered by the recent launch of our Surpass Elite flow diverting stent.
Kevin Lobo: Vascular had US organic sales growth of 4.3%, reflecting a strong double-digit performance in our hemorrhagic business that was powered by the recent launch of our Surpass Elite flow-diverting stent. This performance was offset by competitive pressures in our ischemic business. As a reminder, vascular's organic sales growth figures do not include our peripheral vascular business. And finally, neurocranial had US organic sales growth of 9.9%, led by an outstanding double-digit performance in our IVS business and near double-digit performance from our cranial maxillofacial business. Internationally, MedSurg and Neurotechnology's organic sales growth was 10.9%, led by double-digit growth in our endoscopy and neurocranial businesses. Geographically, a slower capital environment in Europe during the quarter was offset by robust demand in other international markets, including very strong performances in Australia and New Zealand, our emerging markets, and South Korea. Orthopaedics had organic sales growth of 8.4%, including US.
Vascular had US organic sales growth of 4.3%, reflecting a strong double-digit performance in our hemorrhagic business that was powered by the recent launch of our Surpass Elite flow-diverting stent. This performance was offset by competitive pressures in our ischemic business. As a reminder, vascular's organic sales growth figures do not include our peripheral vascular business. And finally, neurocranial had US organic sales growth of 9.9%, led by an outstanding double-digit performance in our IVS business and near double-digit performance from our cranial maxillofacial business. Internationally, MedSurg and Neurotechnology's organic sales growth was 10.9%, led by double-digit growth in our endoscopy and neurocranial businesses. Geographically, a slower capital environment in Europe during the quarter was offset by robust demand in other international markets, including very strong performances in Australia and New Zealand, our emerging markets, and South Korea. Orthopaedics had organic sales growth of 8.4%, including US.
Speaker #4: This performance was offset by competitive pressures in our ischemic business. As a reminder, Vascular's organic sales growth figures do not include our peripheral vascular business.
Speaker #4: And finally, Neurocranial had U.S. organic sales growth of 9.9%, led by an outstanding double-digit performance in our IVS business and near double-digit performance from our Cranial Maxillofacial business.
Speaker #4: Internationally, MedSurgeon Neurotechnology's organic sales growth was 10.9%, led by double-digit growth in our endoscopy and neurocranial businesses. Geographically, a slower capital environment in Europe during the quarter was offset by robust demand in other international markets, including very strong performances in Australia and New Zealand.
Speaker #4: Our emerging markets and South Korea. Orthopedics had organic sales growth of 8.4%, including U.S. organic growth of 9.6% and international organic growth of 5.4%.
Kevin Lobo: organic growth of 9.6% and international organic growth of 5.4%. Our US knee business grew 7.6% organically, reflecting our market-leading position in robotic-assisted knee procedures and continued momentum from recent Mako installations. Our US hips business grew 5.6% organically, highlighted by the enduring success of our Insignia hip stem and continuing adoption of our Mako robotic hip platform with expanded ability to address more difficult primary hip cases as well as hip revisions. Our US trauma and extremities business grew 8.5% organically in the quarter, led by double-digit growth in our upper extremities business as our multi-year strong shoulder growth trajectory continued throughout the year. Additionally, our core trauma business had solid high single-digit growth against a very high prior-year comparable. Core trauma's performance continues to be driven by Pangea, our differentiated plating portfolio, as well as our market-leading position in nailing. Our US.
organic growth of 9.6% and international organic growth of 5.4%. Our US knee business grew 7.6% organically, reflecting our market-leading position in robotic-assisted knee procedures and continued momentum from recent Mako installations. Our US hips business grew 5.6% organically, highlighted by the enduring success of our Insignia hip stem and continuing adoption of our Mako robotic hip platform with expanded ability to address more difficult primary hip cases as well as hip revisions. Our US trauma and extremities business grew 8.5% organically in the quarter, led by double-digit growth in our upper extremities business as our multi-year strong shoulder growth trajectory continued throughout the year. Additionally, our core trauma business had solid high single-digit growth against a very high prior-year comparable. Core trauma's performance continues to be driven by Pangea, our differentiated plating portfolio, as well as our market-leading position in nailing. Our US.
Speaker #4: Our U.S. knee business grew 7.6% organically, reflecting our market-leading position in robotic-assisted knee procedures and continued momentum from recent MAKO installations.
Speaker #4: HIPS business grew 5.6% organically, highlighted by the enduring success of our Insignia HIPS stem and continuing adoption of our MAKO robotic HIPS platform, with expanded ability to address more difficult primary HIPS cases as well as HIPS revisions.
Speaker #4: Our U.S. trauma and extremities business grew 8.5% organically in the quarter, led by double-digit growth in our upper extremities business, as our multi-year strong shoulder growth trajectory continued throughout the year.
Speaker #4: Additionally, our core trauma business had solid high single-digit growth against a very high prior year comparable. Core trauma's performance continues to be driven by Pangea, our differentiated plating portfolio, as well as our market-leading position in nailing.
Speaker #4: Our U.S. Other Ortho business grew 28.7% organically, driven by robust installations in the quarter, led by momentum from the successful launch of MAKO 4 in the U.S.
Kevin Lobo: Other ortho business grew 28.7% organically, driven by robust installations in the quarter, led by momentum from the successful launch of Mako 4 in the US. Internationally, orthopedics had an organic growth of 5.4% against a double-digit comparable in the prior prior year. Growth was led by strong performances in Canada and many of our emerging markets. As a reminder, our international results include a nominal amount of spinal implant revenue because of previously accepted tenders that we are fulfilling before exiting those markets. Now, I will focus on certain operating and non-operating highlights in the fourth quarter. Our adjusted gross margin of 65.2% was 10 basis points lower than the fourth quarter of 2024, reflecting the impact of tariffs that were mostly offset by business mix and cost improvements as we continue to optimize our supply chain and manufacturing processes.
Other ortho business grew 28.7% organically, driven by robust installations in the quarter, led by momentum from the successful launch of Mako 4 in the US. Internationally, orthopedics had an organic growth of 5.4% against a double-digit comparable in the prior prior year. Growth was led by strong performances in Canada and many of our emerging markets. As a reminder, our international results include a nominal amount of spinal implant revenue because of previously accepted tenders that we are fulfilling before exiting those markets. Now, I will focus on certain operating and non-operating highlights in the fourth quarter. Our adjusted gross margin of 65.2% was 10 basis points lower than the fourth quarter of 2024, reflecting the impact of tariffs that were mostly offset by business mix and cost improvements as we continue to optimize our supply chain and manufacturing processes.
Speaker #4: Internationally, Orthopaedics had organic growth of 5.4%, against a double-digit comparable in the prior year. Growth was led by strong performances in Canada and many of our emerging markets.
Speaker #4: As a reminder, our international results include a nominal amount of spinal implant revenue because of previously accepted tenders that we are fulfilling before exiting those markets.
Speaker #4: Now, I will focus on certain operating and non-operating highlights in the fourth quarter. Our adjusted gross margin of 65.2% was 10 basis points lower than the fourth quarter 2024, reflecting the impact of tariffs that were mostly offset by business mix and cost improvements as we continue to optimize our supply chain and manufacturing processes.
Speaker #4: Our adjusted operating margin was 30.2% of sales, which was 100 basis points favorable to the fourth quarter of 2024, driven by lower adjusted SG&A as a percentage of sales, primarily due to our ongoing focus on operational excellence and margin expansion.
Kevin Lobo: Our adjusted operating margin was 30.2% of sales, which was 100 basis points favorable to the fourth quarter of 2024, driven by lower adjusted SG&A as a percentage of sales, primarily due to our ongoing focus on operational excellence and margin expansion. Adjusted other income and expense of $107 million for the quarter was $56 million higher than 2024 due to increased interest expense from debt issuances early in the year and lower interest income. For 2026, we expect our full-year other income and expense to be approximately $420 million. The fourth quarter had an adjusted effective tax rate of 16.1%, reflecting the impact of geographic NICs and certain discrete tax items. For 2026, we expect our full-year effective tax rate to be in the range of 15% to 16%.
Our adjusted operating margin was 30.2% of sales, which was 100 basis points favorable to the fourth quarter of 2024, driven by lower adjusted SG&A as a percentage of sales, primarily due to our ongoing focus on operational excellence and margin expansion. Adjusted other income and expense of $107 million for the quarter was $56 million higher than 2024 due to increased interest expense from debt issuances early in the year and lower interest income. For 2026, we expect our full-year other income and expense to be approximately $420 million. The fourth quarter had an adjusted effective tax rate of 16.1%, reflecting the impact of geographic NICs and certain discrete tax items. For 2026, we expect our full-year effective tax rate to be in the range of 15% to 16%.
Speaker #4: Adjusted other income and expense of $107 million for the quarter was $56 million higher than 2024 due to increased interest expense from debt issuances early in the year, and lower interest income.
Speaker #4: For 2026, we expect our full-year other income and expense to be approximately $420 million. The fourth quarter had an adjusted effective tax rate of 16.1%, reflecting the impact of geographic mix and certain discrete tax items.
Speaker #4: For 2026, we expect our full-year effective tax rate to be in the range of 15% to 16%. Turning to cash flow, our year-to-date cash from operations was $5 billion, an increase of $802 million from 2024 that was primarily driven by higher earnings and year-over-year working capital improvements.
Kevin Lobo: Turning to cash flow, our year-to-date cash from operations was $5 billion, an increase of $802 million from 2024 that was primarily driven by higher earnings and year-over-year working capital improvements. As a result, we delivered free cash flow as a percentage of adjusted net earnings this year of 81% compared to 75% last year. Consistent with the long-range plan we presented at our investor day, we will continue to target a range of 70% to 80% for free cash flow as a percentage of adjusted net earnings. Now, I will provide full-year 2026 guidance. Given our strong exit from 2025, our presence in healthy end markets, sustained procedural volumes, and strong demand for our capital products, we expect 2026 organic net sales growth to be in the range of 8% to 9.5% and adjusted net earnings per share to be in the range of $14.90 to $15.10.
Turning to cash flow, our year-to-date cash from operations was $5 billion, an increase of $802 million from 2024 that was primarily driven by higher earnings and year-over-year working capital improvements. As a result, we delivered free cash flow as a percentage of adjusted net earnings this year of 81% compared to 75% last year. Consistent with the long-range plan we presented at our investor day, we will continue to target a range of 70% to 80% for free cash flow as a percentage of adjusted net earnings. Now, I will provide full-year 2026 guidance. Given our strong exit from 2025, our presence in healthy end markets, sustained procedural volumes, and strong demand for our capital products, we expect 2026 organic net sales growth to be in the range of 8% to 9.5% and adjusted net earnings per share to be in the range of $14.90 to $15.10.
Speaker #4: As a result, we delivered free cash flow as a percentage of adjusted net earnings this year—81% compared to 75% last year—consistent with the long-range plan we presented at our investor day.
Speaker #4: We will continue to target a range of 70% to 80% for free cash flow as a percentage of adjusted net earnings. And now, I will provide full year 2026 guidance.
Speaker #4: Given our strong exit from 2025, our presence in healthy end markets, sustained procedural volumes, and strong demand for our capital products, we expect 2026 organic net sales growth to be in the range of 8% to 9.5% and adjusted net earnings per share to be in the range of 14 dollars and 90 cents to 15 dollars and 10 cents.
Speaker #4: Our full-year 2026 sales guidance includes a modestly positive impact from price. Additionally, if foreign exchange rates hold near year-to-date levels, we anticipate a slightly favorable impact on both sales and adjusted earnings per share.
Kevin Lobo: Our full-year 2026 sales guidance includes a modestly positive impact from price. Additionally, if foreign exchange rates hold near year-to-date levels, we anticipate a slightly favorable impact on both sales and adjusted earnings per share. Compared to 2025, we will have the same number of selling days in each quarter during 2026. Finally, we expect the seasonality of our sales to be similar to 2025. In addition, we expect full-year tariff impacts to be approximately $400 million, which includes an incremental $200 million compared to 2025 that will be realized in the first half of the year. With that, I will now open up the call for Q&A.
Our full-year 2026 sales guidance includes a modestly positive impact from price. Additionally, if foreign exchange rates hold near year-to-date levels, we anticipate a slightly favorable impact on both sales and adjusted earnings per share. Compared to 2025, we will have the same number of selling days in each quarter during 2026. Finally, we expect the seasonality of our sales to be similar to 2025. In addition, we expect full-year tariff impacts to be approximately $400 million, which includes an incremental $200 million compared to 2025 that will be realized in the first half of the year. With that, I will now open up the call for Q&A.
Speaker #4: Compared to 2025, we will have the same number of selling days in each quarter during 2026. Finally, we expect the seasonality of our sales to be similar to 2025.
Speaker #4: In addition, we expect full-year tariff impacts to be approximately $400 million, which includes an incremental $200 million compared to 2025 that will be realized in the first half of the year.
Speaker #4: With that, I will now open up the call for questions.
Speaker #4: Q&A. At this
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Speaker #2: ahead. Good afternoon.
Larry Biegelsen: Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question and congratulations on a really strong end to the year and a strong 2025. Kevin, you're guiding to 8 to 9.5% organic growth for 2026 versus 8 to 9% to start last year. What's giving you the confidence to start this year slightly higher? And at the investor day in November, you seemed to believe it was possible to grow in 2026 10% given the market conditions at the time. Is that still the case? And I had one follow-up.
Lawrence Biegelsen: Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question and congratulations on a really strong end to the year and a strong 2025. Kevin, you're guiding to 8 to 9.5% organic growth for 2026 versus 8 to 9% to start last year. What's giving you the confidence to start this year slightly higher? And at the investor day in November, you seemed to believe it was possible to grow in 2026 10% given the market conditions at the time. Is that still the case? And I had one follow-up.
Speaker #3: Thanks for taking the question, and congratulations on a really strong end to the year and a strong 2025. Kevin, you're guiding to 8% to 9.5% organic growth for 2026, versus 8% to 9% to start last year.
Speaker #3: What's giving you the confidence to start this year slightly higher, and at the Investor Day in November, you seemed to believe it was possible to grow in 2026 by 10%, given the market conditions at the time?
Speaker #3: Is that still the case? And I had one follow-up.
Speaker #4: Thanks, Larry. As you saw, this is our fourth consecutive year of double-digit organic sales growth. At some point, you start to think maybe the comparatives will catch up to us, but given the order book, given the strength of the makeover performance we had in the fourth quarter—which, of course, then contributes to implant growth in the future—we really feel more positive, I'd say modestly more positive this year than we did one year ago. Which gives us the confidence to start the year with that range, a little wider range.
Kevin Lobo: Thanks, Larry. As you saw, this is our fourth consecutive year of double-digit organic sales growth. At some point, you start to think maybe the comparatives will catch up to us. But given the order book, given the strength of the Mako performance we had in the fourth quarter, which, of course, then contributes to implant growth in the future, we really feel more positive, I'd say modestly more positive this year than we did one year ago, which gives us the confidence to start the year with that range, a little wider range, but a little on the higher end. And as I said at this call a year ago, 10% is certainly possible, but it does depend on a lot of things that are in the macro environment, procedure growth. But we do have a strong order book.
Kevin Lobo: Thanks, Larry. As you saw, this is our fourth consecutive year of double-digit organic sales growth. At some point, you start to think maybe the comparatives will catch up to us. But given the order book, given the strength of the Mako performance we had in the fourth quarter, which, of course, then contributes to implant growth in the future, we really feel more positive, I'd say modestly more positive this year than we did one year ago, which gives us the confidence to start the year with that range, a little wider range, but a little on the higher end. And as I said at this call a year ago, 10% is certainly possible, but it does depend on a lot of things that are in the macro environment, procedure growth. But we do have a strong order book.
Speaker #4: But a little on the higher end. And as I said at this call a year ago, 10% is certainly possible. But it does depend on a lot of things that are in the macro environment—procedure growth.
Speaker #4: But we do have a strong order book. We do feel good about procedures, and it's certainly possible that we could do a fifth year in a row.
Kevin Lobo: We do feel good about procedures, and certainly possible that we could do a fifth year in a row.
We do feel good about procedures, and certainly possible that we could do a fifth year in a row.
Speaker #3: That's helpful. And for my follow-up, Kevin, you elevated Spencer Stiles to president and chief operating officer in December. It's not the first time Stryker has had a president.
Larry Biegelsen: That's helpful. And for my follow-up, Kevin, you elevated Spencer Stiles to president and chief operating officer in December. It's not the first time Stryker has had a president. I think Tim Scannell had that role until 2021. So can you please talk about why this was the right time for this change, what it means for Stryker, and perhaps what it means for you going forward? Thanks for taking the question.
Lawrence Biegelsen: That's helpful. And for my follow-up, Kevin, you elevated Spencer Stiles to president and chief operating officer in December. It's not the first time Stryker has had a president. I think Tim Scannell had that role until 2021. So can you please talk about why this was the right time for this change, what it means for Stryker, and perhaps what it means for you going forward? Thanks for taking the question.
Speaker #3: I think Tim Scannell had that role until 2021. So, can you please talk about why this was the right time for this change? What it means for Stryker, and perhaps what it means for you going forward?
Speaker #3: Thanks for taking the question.
Speaker #4: Yeah, yeah. Thanks, Larry. As you know, we did it before, and I think Spencer clearly is ready for a challenge. He's been a Group President for some time now.
Kevin Lobo: Yeah, yeah, thanks, Larry. As you know, we did it before. And I think Spencer clearly is ready for a challenge. He's been a group president for some time now. It provides him really a tremendous platform to lead our global commercial organization. It also enables a cascade of other promotions, including Dylan Crotty, to head up Orthopaedics and then a ripple down throughout the organization. So this is really a great chance for our fantastic leaders to assume more responsibility. And I look forward to partnering with Spencer to lead the company as we continue to grow. $25 billion in sales, and clearly, with momentum behind us, does enable us to have additional leaders running large businesses.
Kevin Lobo: Yeah, yeah, thanks, Larry. As you know, we did it before. And I think Spencer clearly is ready for a challenge. He's been a group president for some time now. It provides him really a tremendous platform to lead our global commercial organization. It also enables a cascade of other promotions, including Dylan Crotty, to head up Orthopaedics and then a ripple down throughout the organization. So this is really a great chance for our fantastic leaders to assume more responsibility. And I look forward to partnering with Spencer to lead the company as we continue to grow. $25 billion in sales, and clearly, with momentum behind us, does enable us to have additional leaders running large businesses.
Speaker #4: He provides him really a tremendous platform to lead our global commercial organization. It also enables a cascade of other promotions, including Dylan Crotty to head up orthopedics, and then a ripple down throughout the organization.
Speaker #4: So, this is really a great chance for our fantastic leaders to assume more responsibility. And I look forward to partnering with Spencer to lead the company as we continue to grow. $25 billion in sales, and clearly with momentum behind us, does enable us to have additional leaders running large
Speaker #4: businesses. Your next
Operator: Your next question will come from Robbie Marcus with J.P. Morgan. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question will come from Robbie Marcus with J.P. Morgan. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Our next question will come from Robbie Marcus with JP Morgan. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: ahead. Oh, great.
[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Oh, great. Thanks for taking the questions. I'll add my congratulations on a nice quarter too for me. Maybe to build on Larry's question on just sort of the confidence going forward, clearly, the capital equipment market ended on a really strong year in 2025. Kevin, how are you thinking about pricing both for your capital business and your implant business in 2026 and your expectations for the capital environment in 2026, U.S. and outside the U.S.? And then I have a follow-up.
Robbie Marcus: Oh, great. Thanks for taking the questions. I'll add my congratulations on a nice quarter too for me. Maybe to build on Larry's question on just sort of the confidence going forward, clearly, the capital equipment market ended on a really strong year in 2025. Kevin, how are you thinking about pricing both for your capital business and your implant business in 2026 and your expectations for the capital environment in 2026, U.S. and outside the U.S.? And then I have a follow-up.
Speaker #3: Thanks for taking the questions. I'll add my congratulations on a nice quarter too, for me. Maybe to build on Larry's question on just sort of the confidence going forward—clearly the capital equipment market ended on a really strong year in 2025.
Speaker #3: Kevin, how are you thinking about pricing both for your capital business and your implant business in 2026? And your expectations for the capital environment in 2026, US and outside the US?
Speaker #3: And then I have a follow-up.
Speaker #4: Yeah. Hey, Robbie. Just on the pricing piece of it—we've talked about pricing before. It's something that we've certainly been focused on the last few years.
Preston Wells: Yeah, hey, Robbie, just on the pricing piece of it, we've talked about pricing before. It's something that we've certainly been focused on the last few years. And I think you've seen that reflected in our price gains that we've been able to deliver over the last couple of years. And now, as we see the numbers, we're building price gains on top of price gains from before. And so we expect that to be something that continues into next year, just given the muscle that we've developed and the focus that we have. So if we think about 2026, we expect 2026 to look pretty similar from a price standpoint to 2025.
Preston Wells: Yeah, hey, Robbie, just on the pricing piece of it, we've talked about pricing before. It's something that we've certainly been focused on the last few years. And I think you've seen that reflected in our price gains that we've been able to deliver over the last couple of years. And now, as we see the numbers, we're building price gains on top of price gains from before. And so we expect that to be something that continues into next year, just given the muscle that we've developed and the focus that we have. So if we think about 2026, we expect 2026 to look pretty similar from a price standpoint to 2025.
Speaker #4: And I think you've seen that reflected in our price gains that we've been able to deliver over the last couple of years. And now, as we see the numbers, we're building price gains on top of price gains from before.
Speaker #4: And so, we expect that to be something that continues into next year, just given the muscle that we've developed and the focus that we have.
Speaker #4: So if we think about 2026, we expect 2026 to look pretty similar from a price standpoint to 2025. Hey, Robbie, it's Jason. Just as that relates to kind of the overall capital environment—I mean, you said it well—we had a strong finish to the year.
Jason Beach: Hey, Robbie, it's Jason. Just as that relates to kind of the overall capital environment, I mean, you said it well. We had a strong finish to the year if you think about our capital businesses. And then if you just consider similar to what I said in some of my prepared remarks, from an elevated backlog perspective, the environment's pretty good. And so we feel really good about the capital environment as we go into 2026.
Jason Beach: Hey, Robbie, it's Jason. Just as that relates to kind of the overall capital environment, I mean, you said it well. We had a strong finish to the year if you think about our capital businesses. And then if you just consider similar to what I said in some of my prepared remarks, from an elevated backlog perspective, the environment's pretty good. And so we feel really good about the capital environment as we go into 2026.
Speaker #4: If you think about our capital businesses, and then if you just consider, similar to what I said in some of my prepared remarks, from an elevated backlog perspective, the environment's pretty good.
Speaker #4: And so, we feel really good about the capital environment as we go into 2026.
Speaker #3: Great. Maybe looking at the quarter, there were a couple of businesses that did particularly well. You mentioned Mako; the other number was particularly strong, as was Endoscopy and Instruments.
Larry Biegelsen: Great. Maybe looking at the quarter, there were a couple of businesses that did particularly well. You mentioned Mako. The other number was particularly strong, as was endoscopy and instruments. And one that stood out on the opposite side or two, trauma, extremities, and vascular. I was hoping you could just give us a little more color, what happened there, is there stocking, destocking, and just a little more. Appreciate it. Thanks.
Robbie Marcus: Great. Maybe looking at the quarter, there were a couple of businesses that did particularly well. You mentioned Mako. The other number was particularly strong, as was endoscopy and instruments. And one that stood out on the opposite side or two, trauma, extremities, and vascular. I was hoping you could just give us a little more color, what happened there, is there stocking, destocking, and just a little more. Appreciate it. Thanks.
Speaker #3: And one that stood out on the opposite side or two, trauma and extremities and vascular. I was hoping you could just give us a little more color on what happened there.
Speaker #3: Is there stocking, destocking, and just a little more? Appreciate it.
Speaker #3: Thanks. Okay.
Kevin Lobo: Hey, well, that was a lot of questions, Robbie. So let me just say on the positive side, endoscopy, instruments, and Mako were absolutely on fire at the end of the year. I mean, instruments included power tools as well as the products Preston mentioned in his remarks. Endoscopy was a really amazing performance, if you think scopes and sustainability as well. But the camera is a few years into its launch. And unlike prior years, if you look at our prior launches, our growth would start to wane a little bit. Our camera is just phenomenal with fluorescence imaging. We're continuing to sell that very, very well. And this transition to Mako 4 has been incredible for Mako. This is the first time we've had a change of the actual robot to a new robot since we bought Mako.
Kevin Lobo: Hey, well, that was a lot of questions, Robbie. So let me just say on the positive side, endoscopy, instruments, and Mako were absolutely on fire at the end of the year. I mean, instruments included power tools as well as the products Preston mentioned in his remarks. Endoscopy was a really amazing performance, if you think scopes and sustainability as well. But the camera is a few years into its launch. And unlike prior years, if you look at our prior launches, our growth would start to wane a little bit. Our camera is just phenomenal with fluorescence imaging. We're continuing to sell that very, very well. And this transition to Mako 4 has been incredible for Mako. This is the first time we've had a change of the actual robot to a new robot since we bought Mako.
Speaker #4: Well, that was a lot of questions, Robbie. So let me just say, on the positive side, endoscopy and instruments and Mako were absolutely on fire at the end of the year.
Speaker #4: I mean, instruments included power tools, as well as the products Preston mentioned in his remarks. Endoscopy was a really amazing performance, if you think sports and sustainability as well.
Speaker #4: But the camera is a few years into its launch, and unlike prior years—if you look at our prior launches—our growth would start to wane a little bit.
Speaker #4: Our camera is just phenomenal with fluorescence imaging. We're continuing to sell that very, very well. And Mako—this transition to Mako 4 has been incredible.
Speaker #4: This is the first time we've had a change of the actual robot to a new robot since we bought Mako, and to be honest, coming into the year, I wasn't sure how this new transition would go, and the team has done a phenomenal job.
Kevin Lobo: And to be honest, coming into the year, I wasn't sure how this new transition would go. The team has done a phenomenal job. The extra application certainly helps. The feedback has been terrific. On the other side of the fence, I mean, I am still extremely bullish on trauma and extremities. We had a monster comp from the prior year because Pangea was really gaining steam. And we still don't have Pangea in Europe and some other markets. Shoulder continues to be on fire. Our foot and ankle business was a bit soft this year. And we are now launching a new total ankle called Incompass with much better reimbursement from CMS, which is pretty exciting. We won't see much of that impact in Q1. But starting in Q2, that'll start to really kick in.
And to be honest, coming into the year, I wasn't sure how this new transition would go. The team has done a phenomenal job. The extra application certainly helps. The feedback has been terrific. On the other side of the fence, I mean, I am still extremely bullish on trauma and extremities. We had a monster comp from the prior year because Pangea was really gaining steam. And we still don't have Pangea in Europe and some other markets. Shoulder continues to be on fire. Our foot and ankle business was a bit soft this year. And we are now launching a new total ankle called Incompass with much better reimbursement from CMS, which is pretty exciting. We won't see much of that impact in Q1. But starting in Q2, that'll start to really kick in.
Speaker #4: And with the extra applications, certainly helps—the feedback has been terrific. On the other side of the fence, I mean, I am still extremely bullish on Trauma and Extremities.
Speaker #4: We had a monster comp from the prior year because Pangea was really gaining steam. And we still don't have Pangea in Europe and some other markets.
Speaker #4: Shoulder continues to be on fire. Our foot and ankle business was a bit soft this year, and we are now launching a new total ankle called Encompass.
Speaker #4: With much better reimbursement from CMS, which is pretty exciting. We won't see much of that impact in the first quarter, but starting in the second quarter, that'll start to really kick in.
Speaker #4: So I don't feel in any way, shape, or form that business is slowing down. It's just a question of comps, and over the course of the year you're going to see them have another really strong year.
Kevin Lobo: So I don't feel in any way, shape, or form as that business is slowing down. It's just a question of comps. And over the course of the year, you're going to see them have another really strong year in 2026. On the vascular side, I think we commented that the ischemic sector has been tough for us. It's not just in the fourth quarter. That's been going on for the last couple of years. We did launch a new large bore catheter called Broadway. It's a 0.084 lumen. That was a big gap in our portfolio. That feedback has been very positive. But it's the early days of that launch in the US. And then we'll be launching that around the world. So I think over time, that'll start to improve somewhat. But our hemorrhagic business continues to be very strong.
So I don't feel in any way, shape, or form as that business is slowing down. It's just a question of comps. And over the course of the year, you're going to see them have another really strong year in 2026. On the vascular side, I think we commented that the ischemic sector has been tough for us. It's not just in the fourth quarter. That's been going on for the last couple of years. We did launch a new large bore catheter called Broadway. It's a 0.084 lumen. That was a big gap in our portfolio. That feedback has been very positive. But it's the early days of that launch in the US. And then we'll be launching that around the world. So I think over time, that'll start to improve somewhat. But our hemorrhagic business continues to be very strong.
Speaker #4: In 2026, on the vascular side, I think we commented that the ischemic sector has been tough for us. It's not just new for the fourth quarter.
Speaker #4: That's been going on for the last couple of years. We did launch a new large four catheter called Broadway. It's a 0.084 lumen—that was a big gap in our portfolio. The feedback has been very positive, but it's the early days of that launch.
Speaker #4: In the US, and then we'll be launching that around the world. So I think over time, that'll start to improve somewhat. But our hemorrhagic business continues to be very strong.
Speaker #4: And we are now the largest neurovascular player in the marketplace. We took over leadership roughly about a year ago and have continued to be the largest.
Kevin Lobo: We are now the largest Neurovascular player in the marketplace. We took over leadership roughly about a year ago and have continued to be the largest player.
We are now the largest Neurovascular player in the marketplace. We took over leadership roughly about a year ago and have continued to be the largest player.
Speaker #4: Player. Your next question will come from Joanne.
Operator: Your next question will come from Joanne Wuensch with Citi. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question will come from Joanne Wuensch with Citi. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Wunsch with Citi, your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #5: Good afternoon, and thank you for the quarter. There are a number of bits and pieces of the competitive landscape that are changing for you, and I'd love to get some commentary or thoughts.
[Analyst] (Citi): Good afternoon. And thank you for the quarter. There's a number of bits and pieces of the competitive landscape that's changing for you. And I'd love to get some commentary or thoughts. A number being bought by Boston Scientific, J&J announcing the spinout of their ortho business. How do you think about either those moves specifically or just sort of generally on how the landscape may or may not be changing?
Joanne Wuensch: Good afternoon. And thank you for the quarter. There's a number of bits and pieces of the competitive landscape that's changing for you. And I'd love to get some commentary or thoughts. A number being bought by Boston Scientific, J&J announcing the spinout of their ortho business. How do you think about either those moves specifically or just sort of generally on how the landscape may or may not be changing?
Speaker #5: A number being bought by Boston Scientific, J&J announcing the spin-out of their ortho business. How do you think about either those moves specifically or just sort of generally on how the landscape may or may not be changing?
Speaker #4: Hey, Joanne, it's Jason. I'll take a run at this. But I would say, first off, in terms of our strategy and how we go to market, absolutely no change.
Jason Beach: Hey, Joanne, it's Jason. I'll take a run at this. But I would say, first off, in terms of our strategy and how we go to market, absolutely no change. We have tremendous teams on both of those businesses and certainly like our chances here in 2026.
Jason Beach: Hey, Joanne, it's Jason. I'll take a run at this. But I would say, first off, in terms of our strategy and how we go to market, absolutely no change. We have tremendous teams on both of those businesses and certainly like our chances here in 2026.
Speaker #4: We have tremendous teams on both of those businesses, and certainly like our chances here in 2026.
Speaker #5: Okay. My second question, not quite a follow-up, is that there's a fair amount of concern about patient volumes, sort of, with changes in the Affordable Care Act coverage.
Operator: Okay. My second question, not quite a follow-up, is there's a fair amount of concern about patient volumes sort of with changes in the Affordable Care Act coverage. Is there anything that you can comment on that or what you're seeing or what you expect for patient volumes throughout the year? Thank you.
Joanne Wuensch: Okay. My second question, not quite a follow-up, is there's a fair amount of concern about patient volumes sort of with changes in the Affordable Care Act coverage. Is there anything that you can comment on that or what you're seeing or what you expect for patient volumes throughout the year? Thank you.
Speaker #5: Is there anything that you can comment on, or what you're seeing, or what you expect for patient volumes throughout the—
Speaker #5: year? Thank you. Yeah,
Jason Beach: Yeah, Joanne, it's Jason again. What I would say is, as we ended the year and certainly starting off 2026, volumes continue to be robust. Tough to speculate, obviously, as you go into later in the year. But we continue to believe, as you think about the ortho markets, these are going to be mid-single-digit growing markets. And we're going to outperform the markets in 2026 just like we did last year.
Jason Beach: Yeah, Joanne, it's Jason again. What I would say is, as we ended the year and certainly starting off 2026, volumes continue to be robust. Tough to speculate, obviously, as you go into later in the year. But we continue to believe, as you think about the ortho markets, these are going to be mid-single-digit growing markets. And we're going to outperform the markets in 2026 just like we did last year.
Speaker #4: Joanne, it's Jason again. What I would say is, as we ended the year and certainly starting off 2026, volumes continue to be robust. It's tough to speculate, obviously, as you go into later in the year, but we continue to believe, as you think about the ortho markets, these are going to be mid-single-digit growing markets.
Speaker #4: And we're going to outperform the markets in 2026, just like we did last year.
Speaker #2: Your next question will come from Ryan Zimmerman with BTIG.
Operator: Your next question will come from Ryan Zimmerman with BTIG.
Operator: Your next question will come from Ryan Zimmerman with BTIG.
Speaker #6: Thank you. And let me echo the congratulations on the quarter and the year. So this may be a little in the weeds, but there's actually a local coverage determination this morning around total joint arthroplasty and robotics, I think specifically with CGS.
[Analyst] (Needham & Company): Thank you. And let me echo the congratulations on the quarter and the year. This may be a little in the weeds, but there was actually a local coverage determination this morning around total joint arthroplasty and robotics, I think specifically with CGS. It wasn't very impactful, but it would appear to me that there's been some efforts to get incremental reimbursement for the use of robotics. I could be wrong in that assumption. And in the response, some of the MACs argued that the evidence may not be sufficient to warrant this. I'm curious if you have any thoughts about what's going on here, whether this does create any risk in your view from payers, or alternatively, an opportunity to get incremental reimbursement for robotic usage, specifically for specific robotic systems in the market in orthopedics.
Ryan Zimmerman: Thank you. And let me echo the congratulations on the quarter and the year. This may be a little in the weeds, but there was actually a local coverage determination this morning around total joint arthroplasty and robotics, I think specifically with CGS. It wasn't very impactful, but it would appear to me that there's been some efforts to get incremental reimbursement for the use of robotics. I could be wrong in that assumption. And in the response, some of the MACs argued that the evidence may not be sufficient to warrant this. I'm curious if you have any thoughts about what's going on here, whether this does create any risk in your view from payers, or alternatively, an opportunity to get incremental reimbursement for robotic usage, specifically for specific robotic systems in the market in orthopedics.
Speaker #6: It wasn’t very impactful, but it would appear to me that there have been some efforts to get incremental reimbursement for the use of robotics. I could be wrong in that assumption.
Speaker #6: And in the response, some of the MACs argued that the evidence may not be sufficient to warrant this. I'm curious if you have any thoughts about what's going on here—whether this does create any risk, in your view, from payers or, alternatively, an opportunity to get incremental reimbursement for robotic usage, specifically for specific robotic systems in the market in orthopedics.
Speaker #4: Well, I'm not familiar with that particular case that you're citing, but what I can say is in other parts of the world, there is extra reimbursement for robotic procedures, whether it's in Japan or in other markets around the world.
Jason Beach: Well, I'm not familiar with that particular case that you're citing. But what I can say is, in other parts of the world, there is extra reimbursement for robotic procedures, whether it's in Japan or in other markets around the world. We have examples where we do get extra reimbursement. And we love the opportunity for that. In fact, in Australia, there are studies that are showing that Mako outperforms other robotic systems as well as navigation as well as manual. So it kind of stands on its own in Australian data that has been peer-reviewed and published. So we love our chances of being able to demonstrate that data. We've been in the market for long enough now that the data is starting to come out and would support potentially extra reimbursements. I can't imagine or don't foresee any reduction in reimbursement.
Kevin Lobo: Well, I'm not familiar with that particular case that you're citing. But what I can say is, in other parts of the world, there is extra reimbursement for robotic procedures, whether it's in Japan or in other markets around the world. We have examples where we do get extra reimbursement. And we love the opportunity for that. In fact, in Australia, there are studies that are showing that Mako outperforms other robotic systems as well as navigation as well as manual. So it kind of stands on its own in Australian data that has been peer-reviewed and published. So we love our chances of being able to demonstrate that data. We've been in the market for long enough now that the data is starting to come out and would support potentially extra reimbursements. I can't imagine or don't foresee any reduction in reimbursement.
Speaker #4: We have examples where we do get extra reimbursement, and we love the opportunity for that. In fact, in Australia, there are studies that have shown that Mako outperforms other robotic systems, as well as navigation, as well as manual.
Speaker #4: So it kind of stands on its own in Australian data that has been peer-reviewed and published. So we love our chances of being able to demonstrate that data.
Speaker #4: We've been in the market for long enough now that the data is starting to come out and would support potentially extra reimbursements. I can't imagine, or don't foresee, any reduction in reimbursement.
Speaker #4: And certainly, you can see with the uptake of robotics that over two-thirds of our knees are being done robotically. Surgeons aren't going to be going backwards.
Jason Beach: Certainly, you can see with the uptake of robotics that over 2/3 of our knees being done robotically, surgeons aren't going to be going backwards. It's only going to continue.
Certainly, you can see with the uptake of robotics that over 2/3 of our knees being done robotically, surgeons aren't going to be going backwards. It's only going to continue.
Speaker #4: It's only going to continue.
Speaker #6: Yeah, okay, fair enough, Kevin. And I'll maybe zoom out a little bit then on operating margins and turn this to Preston. But 150 basis points, I think, through 2028 was the target, Preston, at the analyst day not too long ago.
Kevin Lobo: Yeah. Okay. Fair enough, Kevin. And I'll maybe zoom out a little bit then on operating margins and turn this to Preston. But 150 basis points, I think, through 2028 was the target, Preston, at the analyst day not too long ago. As you sit here today, just given the performance that we have seen, how would you characterize that trajectory? How would you characterize your confidence to achieve that? I think if I look at kind of where numbers are, that was kind of in the range of possibilities. But I think we are still kind of left wondering kind of the pace at which you may have achieved those targets. Thank you.
Ryan Zimmerman: Yeah. Okay. Fair enough, Kevin. And I'll maybe zoom out a little bit then on operating margins and turn this to Preston. But 150 basis points, I think, through 2028 was the target, Preston, at the analyst day not too long ago. As you sit here today, just given the performance that we have seen, how would you characterize that trajectory? How would you characterize your confidence to achieve that? I think if I look at kind of where numbers are, that was kind of in the range of possibilities. But I think we are still kind of left wondering kind of the pace at which you may have achieved those targets. Thank you.
Speaker #6: As you sit here today, just given the performance that we have seen, how would you characterize that trajectory? How would you characterize your confidence to achieve that?
Speaker #6: I think if I look at kind of where numbers are, that was kind of in the range of possibilities. But I think we are still kind of left wondering about the pace at which you may have achieved those targets.
Speaker #6: Thank
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Jason Beach: Yeah, Ron, good question. So as we think about it, the confidence is the same. We gave you that guide for the next three years because we believe very much in the ability to go out and achieve it based on the activities and actions that we have going on internally, focused on operational excellence, particularly with areas like lean and other elements with regards to shared services and things of that nature. But when we think about what we gave you for 2026 here, we gave you a lot of the different pieces in terms of our overall growth and what we expect from an EPS standpoint. I think if you plug that in, you'll see it's a healthy margin that we're planning for 2026 that really leads you down that path for that expectation of delivering 150 and above potentially as we go through the next three years.
Jason Beach: Yeah, Ron, good question. So as we think about it, the confidence is the same. We gave you that guide for the next three years because we believe very much in the ability to go out and achieve it based on the activities and actions that we have going on internally, focused on operational excellence, particularly with areas like lean and other elements with regards to shared services and things of that nature. But when we think about what we gave you for 2026 here, we gave you a lot of the different pieces in terms of our overall growth and what we expect from an EPS standpoint. I think if you plug that in, you'll see it's a healthy margin that we're planning for 2026 that really leads you down that path for that expectation of delivering 150 and above potentially as we go through the next three years.
Speaker #4: So as we think about it, the confidence is the same. We gave you those—that guide for the next three years—because we believe very much in the ability to go out and achieve it based on the activities and actions that we have going on internally, focused on operational excellence, particularly with areas like lean and other elements with regards to shared services and things of that nature.
Speaker #4: But when we think about what we gave you for ’26 here, we gave you a lot of the different pieces in terms of our overall growth and what we expect from the EPS standpoint.
Speaker #4: I think if you plug that in, you'll see it's a healthy margin that we're planning for '26 that really leads you down that path for that expectation of delivering 150 and above, potentially, as we go through the next three.
Speaker #4: I think if you plug that in, you'll see it's a healthy margin that we're planning for '26 that really leads you down that path for that expectation of delivering 150 and above potentially as we go through the next three years.
Speaker #2: Your next question will come from Travis Steed with Bank.
Operator: Your next question will come from Travis Steed with Bank of America.
Operator: Your next question will come from Travis Steed with Bank of America.
Speaker #2: of America. Hey,
[Analyst] (Bank of America): Hey, congrats on a good quarter. I wanted to focus on MedSurg, kind of bigger picture. If you put the numbers against all the markets in medtech, your MedSurg business actually is probably one of the fastest-growing medtech markets at the moment. Just curious, what's driving that growth? How do you have the confidence to keep doing that longer term? It's just surprising how good the growth is in that MedSurg business.
Travis Steed: Hey, congrats on a good quarter. I wanted to focus on MedSurg, kind of bigger picture. If you put the numbers against all the markets in medtech, your MedSurg business actually is probably one of the fastest-growing medtech markets at the moment. Just curious, what's driving that growth? How do you have the confidence to keep doing that longer term? It's just surprising how good the growth is in that MedSurg business.
Speaker #7: Congrats on a good quarter. I wanted to focus on Med Surg. It's kind of a bigger picture. If you put the numbers against all the markets in Med Tech, your Med Surg business actually is probably one of the fastest-growing Med Tech markets at the moment.
Speaker #7: And just curious, what's driving that growth? How do you have the confidence to keep doing that longer term? Is it surprising how good the growth is in that MedSurg business?
Speaker #4: Yeah, it's kind of alluded to, some of that, in my prepared remarks. And I think it's something that's not fully understood. First, it starts off with our tremendous market share.
Jason Beach: Yeah, I kind of alluded to some of that in my prepared remarks. I think it's something that's not fully understood. First, it starts off with our tremendous market shares. So we have incredibly high market shares across our MedSurg portfolio, very strong position. We are constantly upgrading these products, launching next generations of each of these products. And then we fill in little acquisitions that are very fast-growing. If you remember acquisitions like NICO, that just continues to fuel extra growth of our NS business and on and on. And then we specialize sales forces and split sales forces continually. A couple of examples. We split our CMF sales force a couple of years ago into an oral maxillofacial sales force, and a neuro sales force. We split our Sage sales force into an infection sales force and an injury sales force.
Jason Beach: Yeah, I kind of alluded to some of that in my prepared remarks. I think it's something that's not fully understood. First, it starts off with our tremendous market shares. So we have incredibly high market shares across our MedSurg portfolio, very strong position. We are constantly upgrading these products, launching next generations of each of these products. And then we fill in little acquisitions that are very fast-growing. If you remember acquisitions like NICO, that just continues to fuel extra growth of our NS business and on and on. And then we specialize sales forces and split sales forces continually. A couple of examples. We split our CMF sales force a couple of years ago into an oral maxillofacial sales force, and a neuro sales force. We split our Sage sales force into an infection sales force and an injury sales force.
Speaker #4: So, we have incredibly high market shares across our MedSurg portfolio—very strong position. We are constantly upgrading these products, launching next generations of each of these products.
Speaker #4: And then we fill in little acquisitions that are very fast-growing. If you remember, acquisitions like Niko, that just continue to fuel extra growth of our NMS business.
Speaker #4: And on and on. And then we specialize Salesforces and split Salesforces continually. A couple of examples: we split our CMS Salesforce a couple of years ago.
Speaker #4: Into an oral maxillofacial Salesforce and a neural Salesforce. We split our Sage Salesforce into an infection Salesforce and an injury Salesforce. And I can go on and on.
Jason Beach: I can go on and on. We created a separate sales force for law enforcement within our emergency care business. So we don't talk about all these publicly for competitive reasons. But this is part of the offense: we bring those constant innovations, add in little tuck-in acquisitions, split sales forces, and then that just fuels continual growth. We already have a number of sales force splits that we're contemplating for the next couple of years. We had the, if you think about the Vertos deal, that enabled us to add specialized pain salespeople because today the IVS business sells to interventional oncologists as well as pain docs. So that's really part of the formula, secret sauce, if you will. High market shares, continual internal innovation, constant tuck-ins, which enable us sometimes to even create separate business units.
I can go on and on. We created a separate sales force for law enforcement within our emergency care business. So we don't talk about all these publicly for competitive reasons. But this is part of the offense: we bring those constant innovations, add in little tuck-in acquisitions, split sales forces, and then that just fuels continual growth. We already have a number of sales force splits that we're contemplating for the next couple of years. We had the, if you think about the Vertos deal, that enabled us to add specialized pain salespeople because today the IVS business sells to interventional oncologists as well as pain docs. So that's really part of the formula, secret sauce, if you will. High market shares, continual internal innovation, constant tuck-ins, which enable us sometimes to even create separate business units.
Speaker #4: We created a separate Salesforce for law enforcement within our Emergency Care business. So we don't talk about all these publicly for competitive reasons. But this is part of the offense, as we bring those constant innovations, add in little tuck-in acquisitions, split Salesforces, and then that just fuels continual growth.
Speaker #4: And we already have a number of Salesforce splits that we're contemplating for the next couple of years. We had the, if you think about the Vertos deal, that enabled us to add specialized pain salespeople because today the IVS business sells to interventional oncologists as well as pain docs.
Speaker #4: So, that's really part of the formula—secret sauce, if you will. High market shares, continual internal innovation, constant tuck-ins, which enable us sometimes to even create separate business units.
Speaker #4: If you recall, we split Surgical a while ago, back in 2019–20, into Orthopedic Instruments and Surgical Technologies. And Surgical Technologies cost a billion dollars this year.
Jason Beach: If you recall, we split surgical a while ago back in 2019, 2020 into orthopedic instruments and surgical technologies. And surgical technologies crossed $1 billion this year. So it just would have never happened if we had not split the business units. So those are the kind of things we do in med-surge. And it's totally continually sustainable. As you look over the last 5, 6, 7 years, this is our offense. And we expect that to continue going forward.
If you recall, we split surgical a while ago back in 2019, 2020 into orthopedic instruments and surgical technologies. And surgical technologies crossed $1 billion this year. So it just would have never happened if we had not split the business units. So those are the kind of things we do in med-surge. And it's totally continually sustainable. As you look over the last 5, 6, 7 years, this is our offense. And we expect that to continue going forward.
Speaker #4: So, it just would have never happened if we had not split the business units. So, those are the kind of things we do in Med Surg.
Speaker #4: And it's totally continually sustainable. As you look over the last five, six, seven years, this is our offense. And we expect that to continue going
Speaker #4: forward. That's helpful.
[Analyst] (Bank of America): That's helpful. Kevin, how do you think about tuck-ins in 2026 or maybe a chunkier tuck-ins? Preston, how do you think about protecting margins with potential deals in 2026?
Travis Steed: That's helpful. Kevin, how do you think about tuck-ins in 2026 or maybe a chunkier tuck-ins? Preston, how do you think about protecting margins with potential deals in 2026?
Speaker #7: And Kevin, how do you think about tuck-ins in 2026, or maybe chunkier tuck-ins? And then Preston, how do you think about protecting margins with potential bills in 2026?
Speaker #4: Yeah, we have a really strong balance sheet right now, and so we're on offense right now, looking at deals. The deal pipeline is very healthy.
Jason Beach: Yeah, we have really a strong balance sheet right now. So we're on offense right now looking at deals. The deal pipeline is very healthy with tuck-ins and even looking at other adjacencies, as we always do. So we're excited about the potential to do acquisitions in 2026. But I'm not going to say more than that right now. Yeah, Travis, from a tuck-in standpoint, we've generally said that for tuck-in type deals, those are elements that we try to build into our margin expectations. But as we do each of these deals, certainly it's something that we would communicate back to you all in terms of what our expectations are.
Kevin Lobo: Yeah, we have really a strong balance sheet right now. So we're on offense right now looking at deals. The deal pipeline is very healthy with tuck-ins and even looking at other adjacencies, as we always do. So we're excited about the potential to do acquisitions in 2026. But I'm not going to say more than that right now. Yeah, Travis, from a tuck-in standpoint, we've generally said that for tuck-in type deals, those are elements that we try to build into our margin expectations. But as we do each of these deals, certainly it's something that we would communicate back to you all in terms of what our expectations are.
Speaker #4: With tuck-ins, and even looking at other adjacencies, as we always do. So we're excited about the potential to do acquisitions in 2026, but I'm not going to say more than that right now.
Speaker #3: Yeah, Travis, from a tuck-in standpoint, we've generally said that for tuck-in type deals, those are elements that we try to build into our margin expectations.
Speaker #3: But as we do each of these deals, certainly it's something that we would communicate back to you all in terms of what our expectations
Speaker #3: are. Your next question will
Operator: Your next question will come from Vijay Kumar with Evercore ISI. Your line is now open.
Operator: Your next question will come from Vijay Kumar with Evercore ISI. Your line is now open.
Speaker #2: come from Vijay Kumar with Evercore ISI. Your line is now open.
Speaker #8: Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my question. Congrats on a nice spring here. Kevin, maybe one on innovation for you. I think in the past, you've spoken about product super cycles.
[Analyst] (Canaccord Genuity): Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my question. Congrats on a nice spring here. Kevin, maybe one on innovation for you. I think in the past, you've spoken about product supercycles. What are you excited about when you look at 2026? Feels like some of these supercycles were probably in second or third year. So what is incremental? What are you excited about?
Vijay Kumar: Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my question. Congrats on a nice spring here. Kevin, maybe one on innovation for you. I think in the past, you've spoken about product supercycles. What are you excited about when you look at 2026? Feels like some of these supercycles were probably in second or third year. So what is incremental? What are you excited about?
Speaker #8: What are you excited about when you look at '26? Feels like some of these super cycles were probably in second or third year. So what does incremental what are you excited about?
Speaker #4: Yeah, thanks, Vijay. I'd say, look, there's a ton of innovation always going on in this company. And even if you think of something like Procurity, that's in its, whatever, third or fourth year, but it's still—beds are a long-term cycle.
Jason Beach: Yeah, thanks, Vijay. I'd say, look, there's a ton of innovation always going on in this company. And even if you think of something like ProCuity, that's in its whatever, third or fourth year, but it still heads our long-term cycle. That still behaves like a new product in our hands because it's just a long buying cycle. But we have a number of other exciting launches. We have the Mako RPS, the handheld robot. Initial cases started this month. They're going extremely well. That's a brand new segment for us between our manual power tools and Mako. We have the Vocera Sync Badge that launched towards the latter part of last year, which is getting tremendous feedback. We have all kinds of OptiBlade PVNA and IVS, the Incompass Total Ankle, which I talked about. We have Artix, which is a new arterial product within Inari.
Kevin Lobo: Yeah, thanks, Vijay. I'd say, look, there's a ton of innovation always going on in this company. And even if you think of something like ProCuity, that's in its whatever, third or fourth year, but it still heads our long-term cycle. That still behaves like a new product in our hands because it's just a long buying cycle. But we have a number of other exciting launches. We have the Mako RPS, the handheld robot. Initial cases started this month. They're going extremely well. That's a brand new segment for us between our manual power tools and Mako. We have the Vocera Sync Badge that launched towards the latter part of last year, which is getting tremendous feedback. We have all kinds of OptiBlade PVNA and IVS, the Incompass Total Ankle, which I talked about. We have Artix, which is a new arterial product within Inari.
Speaker #4: That's still behaves like a new product. In our hands because it's just a long buying cycle. But we have a number of other exciting launches.
Speaker #4: We have the Mako RPS, the handheld robot initial case that started this month. They're going extremely well. That's a brand new segment for us between our manual power tools and Mako.
Speaker #4: We have the Vocero Sync Badge that launched towards the latter part of last year, which is getting tremendous feedback. We have all kinds of optablate DVNA and IVS.
Speaker #4: The Encompass Total Ankle, which I talked about. We have Artix, which is a new arterial product within NRA. I can go on and on.
Jason Beach: I can go on and on. I could go on for another 10 minutes. But there aren't right now, let's say, the new power tool, the new camera. Those are sort of flagship products in the past that we would always focus on. But the reality is, as we've become much more diversified, even those launches become a little bit less important to the overall company as the split of CMF is driving CMF to double-digit growth. And all these other tuck-ins like NICO and all these little products contribute to really high growth. And then when you have those other new bigger platforms launched, that gives you just an extra jolt. But the fact that Endoscopy posted these kind of numbers with a camera that's almost 3 to 4 years into its cycle is really impressive. And of course, we do have 1888 in development.
I can go on and on. I could go on for another 10 minutes. But there aren't right now, let's say, the new power tool, the new camera. Those are sort of flagship products in the past that we would always focus on. But the reality is, as we've become much more diversified, even those launches become a little bit less important to the overall company as the split of CMF is driving CMF to double-digit growth. And all these other tuck-ins like NICO and all these little products contribute to really high growth. And then when you have those other new bigger platforms launched, that gives you just an extra jolt. But the fact that Endoscopy posted these kind of numbers with a camera that's almost 3 to 4 years into its cycle is really impressive. And of course, we do have 1888 in development.
Speaker #4: I could go on for another 10 minutes. But there aren't right now this, let's say, the new power tool. The new camera. Those are sort of flagship products in the past that we would always focus on.
Speaker #4: But the reality is, as we become much more diversified, even those launches become a little bit less important to the overall company, as the split of CMF is driving CMF to double-digit growth.
Speaker #4: And all these other tuck-ins, like a Niko and all these little products contribute to really high growth. And then when you have those other new, bigger platforms launched, that gives you just an extra jolt.
Speaker #4: But the fact that Endoscopy posted these kind of numbers with a camera that's three or almost three to four years into its cycle is really impressive.
Speaker #4: And, of course, we do have 1888 in development, and you'll be hearing about that at the right time. But I would tell you, I feel great about the health of our R&D pipelines across the company.
Jason Beach: And you'll be hearing about that at the right time. But I would tell you, I feel great about the health of our R&D pipelines across the company.
And you'll be hearing about that at the right time. But I would tell you, I feel great about the health of our R&D pipelines across the company.
Speaker #8: Yeah, that's helpful, Kevin. And maybe one follow-up on NRA. You did bring up some destocking, so just talk about visibility on what gives us the confidence destocking—or any Salesforce disruption—that perhaps impacted numbers here in Q4.
[Analyst] (Canaccord Genuity): Yeah, that's helpful, Kevin. Maybe one follow-up on Inari. You did bring up some destocking. So just talk about visibility on what gives us the confidence in destockings or in any sales force disruption that perhaps impacted numbers here in Q4.
Vijay Kumar: Yeah, that's helpful, Kevin. Maybe one follow-up on Inari. You did bring up some destocking. So just talk about visibility on what gives us the confidence in destockings or in any sales force disruption that perhaps impacted numbers here in Q4.
Speaker #3: Yeah, Vijay, Jason, as it relates to the sales disruption, I would tell you we are beyond that at this point. And I even made the comment in my prepared remarks as it relates to the stocking.
Jason Beach: Yeah, Vijay, Jason, as it relates to the sales disruption, I would tell you we're beyond that at this point. I even made the comment in my prepared remarks as it relates to destocking. Minimal in Q1. I will tell you, Q4, we had a little bit more destocking than maybe we anticipated. But good visibility as we move into 2026, knowing it'll be minimal in Q1. And then obviously, we start to get to organic growth rates as you get into late Q1 into Q2.
Jason Beach: Yeah, Vijay, Jason, as it relates to the sales disruption, I would tell you we're beyond that at this point. I even made the comment in my prepared remarks as it relates to destocking. Minimal in Q1. I will tell you, Q4, we had a little bit more destocking than maybe we anticipated. But good visibility as we move into 2026, knowing it'll be minimal in Q1. And then obviously, we start to get to organic growth rates as you get into late Q1 into Q2.
Speaker #3: Minimal in Q1, I will tell you. Q4, we had a little bit more destocking than maybe we anticipated. But good visibility as we move into 2026, knowing it'll be minimal in Q1.
Speaker #3: And then, obviously, we start to get to organic growth rates as you get into late Q1, into—
Speaker #3: Q2. Your next
Operator: Your next question will come from Matthew O'Brien with Piper Sandler.
Operator: Your next question will come from Matthew O'Brien with Piper Sandler.
Speaker #2: Question will come from Matthew O'Brien with Piper.
Speaker #2: Sandler. Thanks so much for taking the
[Analyst] (Bank of America): Thanks so much for taking the questions. Just, I'd love to double-click a little bit on the Mako commentary, just given how strong it was. If you wouldn't mind talking a little bit about the US/OUS strength on the robot placement side. And is it fair to think after a period of trialing with some competitive systems that it's kind of over in terms of some of that trialing or even thoughts about using something outside of Mako, and that you guys are winning a disproportionate number of these RFPs? And I guess what I'm really trying to get at is the durability of your implant strength, which has been great for several years. And then I do have a follow-up.
Matthew O'Brien: Thanks so much for taking the questions. Just, I'd love to double-click a little bit on the Mako commentary, just given how strong it was. If you wouldn't mind talking a little bit about the US/OUS strength on the robot placement side. And is it fair to think after a period of trialing with some competitive systems that it's kind of over in terms of some of that trialing or even thoughts about using something outside of Mako, and that you guys are winning a disproportionate number of these RFPs? And I guess what I'm really trying to get at is the durability of your implant strength, which has been great for several years. And then I do have a follow-up.
Speaker #7: I'd love to double-click a little bit on the Mako commentary. Just given how strong it was, if you wouldn't mind talking a little bit about the USOUS strength on the record placement side.
Speaker #7: And is it fair to think, after a period of trialing with some competitive systems, that it's kind of over in terms of some of that trialing or even thoughts about using something outside of Mako?
Speaker #7: And that you guys are winning a disproportionate number of these RFPs and I guess what I'm really trying to get at is the durability of your implant strength, which has been great for several years.
Speaker #7: And then I do have a
Speaker #7: follow-up. Yeah, thanks.
Jason Beach: Yeah, thanks. Listen, Mako Force has been an absolute home run. We already felt like we had the best robot on the market. And we've just only added to that with these additional applications. The feedback on revision hip, one surgeon actually told me he thought it was a cheat code for revisions. Those were his words. It just makes a very hard procedure very easy to do, providing tremendous value to the surgeon. So these extra applications make it totally compelling, a great investment for a hospital. I think we're in obviously a clear leading position. And there's still a lot of hospitals that only have one Mako. And they're starting to add more and more and more. I think we're up to 30% to 40% now have more than one Mako. But every operating room for us is an opportunity for a Mako to be installed.
Jason Beach: Yeah, thanks. Listen, Mako Force has been an absolute home run. We already felt like we had the best robot on the market. And we've just only added to that with these additional applications. The feedback on revision hip, one surgeon actually told me he thought it was a cheat code for revisions. Those were his words. It just makes a very hard procedure very easy to do, providing tremendous value to the surgeon. So these extra applications make it totally compelling, a great investment for a hospital. I think we're in obviously a clear leading position. And there's still a lot of hospitals that only have one Mako. And they're starting to add more and more and more. I think we're up to 30% to 40% now have more than one Mako. But every operating room for us is an opportunity for a Mako to be installed.
Speaker #4: Listen, Mako 4 has been an absolute home run. We already felt like we had the best robot on the market, and we've just only added to that with these additional applications that the feedback on revision hip, one surgeon actually told me he thought it was a cheat code for revisions.
Speaker #4: Those were his words. It just makes a very hard procedure very easy to do, providing tremendous value to the surgeon. So, these extra applications make it totally compelling.
Speaker #4: Great investment for a hospital. I think we're in, obviously, a clear leading position. And there's still a lot of hospitals that only have one Mako, and they're starting to add more and more and more.
Speaker #4: I think we're up to 30 to 40% now have more than one Mako, but every operating room for us is an opportunity for a Mako to be installed.
Speaker #4: And we have clearly the wind at our backs on that. And we're seeing it start to take off in international markets, Japan being the most important one, where it took a while, first of all, to get the regulatory approval.
Jason Beach: We have clearly the wind at our backs on that. We're seeing it start to take off in international markets, Japan being the most important one where it took a while, first of all, to get the regulatory approval. They're obviously very data conscious there. But now Japan is really starting to take off. In fact, even other countries in Asia Pacific are starting to really drive the incremental growth. So we're very bullish on this. I think the shoulder is going to be really exciting when we bring that to the market. Our limited launch has been on the Mako 3 robot. So that's why we're staying in a limited mode because we really want to get that on the Mako 4 robot, which again will be sometime in the middle of the year. And obviously, the shoulder business continues to grow exceptionally well without Mako.
We have clearly the wind at our backs on that. We're seeing it start to take off in international markets, Japan being the most important one where it took a while, first of all, to get the regulatory approval. They're obviously very data conscious there. But now Japan is really starting to take off. In fact, even other countries in Asia Pacific are starting to really drive the incremental growth. So we're very bullish on this. I think the shoulder is going to be really exciting when we bring that to the market. Our limited launch has been on the Mako 3 robot. So that's why we're staying in a limited mode because we really want to get that on the Mako 4 robot, which again will be sometime in the middle of the year. And obviously, the shoulder business continues to grow exceptionally well without Mako.
Speaker #4: They're obviously very data-conscious there. But now Japan is really starting to take off. In fact, even other countries in Asia-Pacific are starting to really drive the incremental growth.
Speaker #4: So we're very bullish on this. I think the shoulder is going to be really exciting. When we bring that to the market, our limited launch has been on the Mako 3 robot.
Speaker #4: But we, so that's why we're staying in a limited mode, because we really want to get that on the Mako 4 robot, which again will be sometime in the middle of the year.
Speaker #4: And obviously, the shoulder business continues to grow exceptionally well without Mako. But again, hard procedure to do. Every time the harder the procedure is, the more Mako brings value.
Jason Beach: But again, hard procedure to do. Every time the harder the procedure is, the more Mako brings value. So we're in the pole position. And we're going to continue to press our lead.
But again, hard procedure to do. Every time the harder the procedure is, the more Mako brings value. So we're in the pole position. And we're going to continue to press our lead.
Speaker #4: So we're in the pole position, and we're going to continue to press our lead.
Speaker #7: Thanks for that. And then you mentioned RPS. Kevin, why go with an X-ray for the imaging versus CT, which has been so successful with traditional Mako?
[Analyst] (Bank of America): Thanks for that. Then you mentioned RPS. Kevin, why go with an X-ray for the imaging versus CT, which has been so successful with traditional Mako? How do we frame up how big that could be for you guys between ASCs, international, etc.? Thanks.
Matthew O'Brien: Thanks for that. Then you mentioned RPS. Kevin, why go with an X-ray for the imaging versus CT, which has been so successful with traditional Mako? How do we frame up how big that could be for you guys between ASCs, international, etc.? Thanks.
Speaker #7: And how do we frame up how big that could be for you guys between ASCs, international, etc.? Thanks.
Speaker #3: Yeah, look, this is a really great solution for some surgeons that aren't ready to go through the change management of Mako. Mako requires a lot of change for the surgeon.
Jason Beach: Yeah, look, this is a really great solution for some surgeons that aren't ready to go through the change management of Mako. Mako requires a lot of change for the surgeon as well as for the staff. And if you think about this handheld, it really is very simple, very easy to use, doesn't require the surgeon to go through that type of transition. This launch is just for total knee. So if you want a robot that can do multiple applications, obviously, that's not possible with this. But if you think about in the ASC, some surgeons not wanting the complexity of Mako, I think it's just going to open up new customers for us that weren't ready for Mako but want something better than using the manual instruments and have the visualization. And we're using the intellectual property from Mako to provide some haptic boundaries.
Kevin Lobo: Yeah, look, this is a really great solution for some surgeons that aren't ready to go through the change management of Mako. Mako requires a lot of change for the surgeon as well as for the staff. And if you think about this handheld, it really is very simple, very easy to use, doesn't require the surgeon to go through that type of transition. This launch is just for total knee. So if you want a robot that can do multiple applications, obviously, that's not possible with this. But if you think about in the ASC, some surgeons not wanting the complexity of Mako, I think it's just going to open up new customers for us that weren't ready for Mako but want something better than using the manual instruments and have the visualization. And we're using the intellectual property from Mako to provide some haptic boundaries.
Speaker #3: As well as for the staff. And if you think about this handheld, it really is very simple, very easy to use, and doesn't require the surgeon to go through that type of transition.
Speaker #3: This launch is just for total knee. So if you want a robot that can do multiple applications, obviously that's not possible with this. But if you think about in the ASC, some surgeons, not wanting the complexity of Mako, I think it's just going to open up new customers for us that weren't ready for Mako but want something better than using the manual instruments.
Speaker #3: And have the visualization and we're using the intellectual property from Mako to provide some haptic boundaries and the feedback has been incredible from the surgeons using it.
Jason Beach: The feedback has been incredible. From the surgeons using it, this is easy to use. It provides tremendous value. So I do believe this will be an extra accelerator for our knee business and something that will live between Mako as well as our manual instruments. And it will be sold by the same sales force that sells Mako. So the positioning, it's really about meet the surgeons where they are and provide the value that they're looking for. And right now, we understand our customers very well. And we believe there is a home for this. And it's under the Mako name. So you can believe we feel very good about the performance. We would never want to tarnish the performance of the Mako brand. So we know this product can sing.
The feedback has been incredible. From the surgeons using it, this is easy to use. It provides tremendous value. So I do believe this will be an extra accelerator for our knee business and something that will live between Mako as well as our manual instruments. And it will be sold by the same sales force that sells Mako. So the positioning, it's really about meet the surgeons where they are and provide the value that they're looking for. And right now, we understand our customers very well. And we believe there is a home for this. And it's under the Mako name. So you can believe we feel very good about the performance. We would never want to tarnish the performance of the Mako brand. So we know this product can sing.
Speaker #3: This is easy to use. It provides tremendous value. So I do believe this will be an extra accelerator for our knee business. And something that will live between Mako as well as our manual instruments.
Speaker #3: And it will be sold by the same Salesforce that sells Mako. So the positioning it's really about meet the surgeons where they are and provide the value that they're looking for.
Speaker #3: And right now, we understand our customers very well, and we believe there is a home for this, and it's under the Mako name. So you can believe we feel very good about the performance.
Speaker #3: We would never want to tarnish the performance of the Mako brand. So we know this product can sing.
Speaker #2: Your next question will come from David Roman with Goldman
Operator: Your next question will come from David Roman with Goldman Sachs.
Operator: Your next question will come from David Roman with Goldman Sachs.
Speaker #2: Sachs. Thank you.
Kevin Lobo: Thank you. Good afternoon, everybody. I wanted to, at the analyst meeting, you introduced, I think in video form, the form factor for a handheld version of Mako that I think you had planned to provide more details on over the course of this year. Maybe any latest thinking on your robotic strategy from a portfolio standpoint as you roll out Mako 4 and any updates you can provide on the handheld instrumentation?
David Roman: Thank you. Good afternoon, everybody. I wanted to, at the analyst meeting, you introduced, I think in video form, the form factor for a handheld version of Mako that I think you had planned to provide more details on over the course of this year. Maybe any latest thinking on your robotic strategy from a portfolio standpoint as you roll out Mako 4 and any updates you can provide on the handheld instrumentation?
Speaker #8: Good afternoon, everybody. I want to—maybe at the analyst meeting, you introduced, I think in video form, the form factor for a handheld version of Mako that I think you had planned to provide more details on over the course of this year.
Speaker #8: Maybe any latest thinking on your robotic strategy from a portfolio standpoint as you roll out Mako 4 and any updates you can provide on the handheld
Speaker #8: Instrumentation? Yeah, I think I just—
Jason Beach: Yeah, I think I just mentioned that we started cases on the handheld. They're going very well. It will be on display at AAOS. So it'll be in the booth. You'll be able to see it. You'll be able to talk to our people about it. That's the coming-out party for Mako RPS will be AAOS. It's not very far from now. So I'd say just stay tuned. You'll get the chance to really see it in full color.
Jason Beach: Yeah, I think I just mentioned that we started cases on the handheld. They're going very well. It will be on display at AAOS. So it'll be in the booth. You'll be able to see it. You'll be able to talk to our people about it. That's the coming-out party for Mako RPS will be AAOS. It's not very far from now. So I'd say just stay tuned. You'll get the chance to really see it in full color.
Speaker #4: mentioned that we started cases on the handheld. They're going very well. It will be on display at Academy. So it'll be in the booth.
Speaker #4: You'll be able to see it. You'll be able to talk to our people about it. That's the coming out party for Mako RPS. We'll be AOS.
Speaker #4: It's not very far from now. So I'd say just stay tuned. You'll get the chance to really see it in full color.
Speaker #8: Okay. Maybe just a follow-up. As Spencer moves into this, the role as president and NCO, I think you kind of talked about this in Larry's question.
Kevin Lobo: Okay. Maybe just a follow-up. As Spencer moves into the role as president and CEO, I think you kind of talked about this in Larry's question. But as he takes on perhaps more of some of the day-to-day operational responsibilities, Kevin, are there priorities where you can now allocate more time or that might require more of your focus or that's on the strategy, M&A, or long-term growth side of the business?
David Roman: Okay. Maybe just a follow-up. As Spencer moves into the role as president and CEO, I think you kind of talked about this in Larry's question. But as he takes on perhaps more of some of the day-to-day operational responsibilities, Kevin, are there priorities where you can now allocate more time or that might require more of your focus or that's on the strategy, M&A, or long-term growth side of the business?
Speaker #8: But as he takes on perhaps more of some of the day-to-day operational responsibilities, Kevin, are there priorities where you can now allocate more time where that might require more of your focus or that's on the strategy, M&A, or long-term growth side of the business?
Speaker #4: Yeah, obviously, when you have somebody in this role that can handle the overall commercial part of the business, it allows me, frankly, to spend more time with our operations team, spend more time with our—we have a brand new leader for information technology.
Jason Beach: Yeah, obviously, when you have somebody in this role that can handle the overall commercial part of the business, it allows me, frankly, to spend more time with our operations team, spend more time with our, we have a brand new leader for information technology and AI. I really want to make sure we are an AI-forward company. We've done a terrific job on AI for customer solutions. But we really haven't made a lot of progress yet on productivity with AI. We've done a great job on lean and a much better job on inventory. But there's a lot of work we can do to drive productivity in AI. And I can now spend a bit more of my time engaging in those other parts of the business that in the past would sort of the gravitational pull would be towards the commercial size of the business.
Jason Beach: Yeah, obviously, when you have somebody in this role that can handle the overall commercial part of the business, it allows me, frankly, to spend more time with our operations team, spend more time with our, we have a brand new leader for information technology and AI. I really want to make sure we are an AI-forward company. We've done a terrific job on AI for customer solutions. But we really haven't made a lot of progress yet on productivity with AI. We've done a great job on lean and a much better job on inventory. But there's a lot of work we can do to drive productivity in AI. And I can now spend a bit more of my time engaging in those other parts of the business that in the past would sort of the gravitational pull would be towards the commercial size of the business.
Speaker #4: And AI—I really want to make sure we are an AI-forward company. We've done a terrific job on AI for customer solutions, but we really haven't made a lot of progress yet on productivity with AI.
Speaker #4: We've done a great job on lean, and a much better job on inventory, but there's a lot of work we can do to drive productivity in AI. I can now spend a bit more of my time engaging in those other parts of the business that in the past, the gravitational pull would sort of be towards the commercial side of the business.
Speaker #4: So I'm excited about the division of labor that we're going to have in this job, and the freedom that it'll afford me to spend on these other areas.
Jason Beach: So I'm excited about the division of labor that we're going to have in this job and the freedom that it'll afford me to spend on these other areas. And of course, looking at adjacencies, BD will always be a big part of my job. But having Spencer involved in that as well will be terrific for when he's running Ortho Group, his head is down running Ortho. And for him to be able to have a little bit more bandwidth there together with me, I think will be excellent for Stryker.
So I'm excited about the division of labor that we're going to have in this job and the freedom that it'll afford me to spend on these other areas. And of course, looking at adjacencies, BD will always be a big part of my job. But having Spencer involved in that as well will be terrific for when he's running Ortho Group, his head is down running Ortho. And for him to be able to have a little bit more bandwidth there together with me, I think will be excellent for Stryker.
Speaker #4: And of course, looking at adjacencies, BD will always be a big part of my job, but having Spencer involved in that as well will be terrific for when he's running Ortho Group, his head is down running Ortho.
Speaker #4: And for him to be able to have a little bit more bandwidth there together with me will be, I think, will be excellent for Stryker.
Speaker #4: And for him to be able to have a little bit more bandwidth there together with me will be, I think, will be excellent for
Speaker #2: Your next question will come from Caitlin Roberts with Canaccord Genuity.
Operator: Your next question will come from Caitlin Roberts with Canaccord Genuity.
Operator: Your next question will come from Caitlin Roberts with Canaccord Genuity.
Speaker #9: Hi, thanks so much for taking the questions and congrats on a great quarter. As you end the year, any update on the percentage of hips, knees, shoulders flowing through the AC channel for you guys?
[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Hi. Thanks so much for taking the questions and congrats on a great quarter. As you end the year, any update on the percentage of hips, knees, shoulders flowing through the AC channel for you guys?
Caitlin Cronin: Hi. Thanks so much for taking the questions and congrats on a great quarter. As you end the year, any update on the percentage of hips, knees, shoulders flowing through the AC channel for you guys?
Speaker #4: Yeah, Caitlin, it's Jason. As you know, we did not disclose that in our prepared remarks. I think we've said recently that hips and knees are kind of in the high teens.
Jason Beach: Yeah, Caitlin, it's Jason. As you know, we did not disclose that in our prepared remarks. I think we've said recently that hips and knees are kind of in the high teens. And we've ticked up quarter after quarter in that environment. So very happy with the ASC performance.
Jason Beach: Yeah, Caitlin, it's Jason. As you know, we did not disclose that in our prepared remarks. I think we've said recently that hips and knees are kind of in the high teens. And we've ticked up quarter after quarter in that environment. So very happy with the ASC performance.
Speaker #4: And we've ticked up quarter after quarter in that environment, so very happy with the ASC.
Speaker #4: performance. Great.
[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Great. And then just some more color on Triathlon Gold and if that has launched already?
Caitlin Cronin: Great. And then just some more color on Triathlon Gold and if that has launched already?
Speaker #9: And then just some more color on Triathlon Goldeness that has launched.
Speaker #9: already. Yes, triathlon gold is an unlimited
Jason Beach: Yes, Triathlon Gold is in limited launch right now. Feedback is extremely positive. You can do it both cemented and cementless, which is a huge draw for surgeons. As you know, so many of our knees are now cementless. That percentage of cementless continues to grow. The ability to do both is really tremendous. That will also be on display at AAOS. You'll be able to see that and be able to interact with our people as they can explain that product to you. But we are extremely pleased with the design. Again, it's in limited launch. We always like, when these implant launches, we tend to want to have a limited launch for the number of surgeons, make sure everything's going smoothly with the instrumentation and the actual performance. But so far, so good. This should be a winner for us.
Kevin Lobo: Yes, Triathlon Gold is in limited launch right now. Feedback is extremely positive. You can do it both cemented and cementless, which is a huge draw for surgeons. As you know, so many of our knees are now cementless. That percentage of cementless continues to grow. The ability to do both is really tremendous. That will also be on display at AAOS. You'll be able to see that and be able to interact with our people as they can explain that product to you. But we are extremely pleased with the design. Again, it's in limited launch. We always like, when these implant launches, we tend to want to have a limited launch for the number of surgeons, make sure everything's going smoothly with the instrumentation and the actual performance. But so far, so good. This should be a winner for us.
Speaker #4: Launch right now. Feedback is extremely positive. You can do it both cemented and cementless, which is a huge drop for surgeons, as you know.
Speaker #4: So many of our knees are now cementless. And that percentage of cementless continues to grow. And the ability to both is really tremendous. And that will also be on display at AAOS.
Speaker #4: You'll be able to see that and be able to interact with our people as they can explain that product to you. But we are extremely pleased with the design.
Speaker #4: Again, it's an unlimited launch. We always like, when these implant launches, we tend to want to have a limited launch for the number of surgeons.
Speaker #4: Make sure everything's going smoothly with the instrumentation and the actual performance. But so far, so good. This should be a winner for us.
Speaker #2: Your next question will come from Matt Mixick with Barclays.
Operator: Your next question will come from Matt Miksic with Barclays.
Operator: Your next question will come from Matt Miksic with Barclays.
Speaker #10: Hey, thanks so much for taking the question. And congrats on a really, really impressive performance, everybody. So one kind of growth and one on margins for Preston, if I could.
Kevin Lobo: Hey, thanks so much for taking the question. And congrats on a really, really impressive performance, everybody. So one on kind of growth and one on margins for Preston, if I could. So on the growth side, I was hoping you could maybe talk a little bit about the differences in the way the growth drivers in the US and the growth drivers OUS. Obviously, US, you've got a bigger contribution of ASCs, and maybe robots are making different kinds of contributions, different part of the life cycle in the US versus OUS. And then maybe just as part of that, I get the question sometimes about the recurring nature of your business. Some of the—I don't know if you've ever carved it out and talked about it. But there's clearly parts of the business, robot being one of them, where it's a recurring model.
Matthew Miksic: Hey, thanks so much for taking the question. And congrats on a really, really impressive performance, everybody. So one on kind of growth and one on margins for Preston, if I could. So on the growth side, I was hoping you could maybe talk a little bit about the differences in the way the growth drivers in the US and the growth drivers OUS. Obviously, US, you've got a bigger contribution of ASCs, and maybe robots are making different kinds of contributions, different part of the life cycle in the US versus OUS. And then maybe just as part of that, I get the question sometimes about the recurring nature of your business. Some of the—I don't know if you've ever carved it out and talked about it. But there's clearly parts of the business, robot being one of them, where it's a recurring model.
Speaker #10: So, on the growth side, I was hoping you could maybe talk a little bit about the differences in the way the growth drivers in the US and the growth drivers OUS.
Speaker #10: Obviously, in the US, you've got a bigger contribution of ASCs and maybe robots, or making different kinds of contributions—different parts of the life cycle in the US versus OUS.
Speaker #10: And then maybe just as part of that, I get the question sometimes about the recurring nature of your business. Some of the, I don't know if you've ever carved it out and talked about it, but there's clearly parts of the business rollout being one of them where you're it's a recurring model.
Speaker #10: Any color you can give us as to how big or important or where the strengths are there? And, as I mentioned, one quick follow-up for Preston.
Kevin Lobo: Any color you can give us as to how big or important or where the strengths are there? As I mentioned, one quick follow-up for Preston. Thanks.
Any color you can give us as to how big or important or where the strengths are there? As I mentioned, one quick follow-up for Preston. Thanks.
Speaker #4: Sure.
Jason Beach: Sure. I'll start with that question. The dynamics internationally are not different than the United States. We have premium products that we sell through specialized sales forces. The reason that we're experiencing higher growth in the US right now versus these markets primarily is because of the timing of launches. So we get these approvals early in the US. Europe, in particular, with the EU MDR has been extremely frustrating. And it's taking us Insignia, Pangea. These LIFEPaks just got approved. These products aren't yet on the market. And they're really important products. And then Mako has taken longer for us to really get that going. And that's not unusual where these international markets tend to want to wait to see more data before they'll start to grow.
Jason Beach: Sure. I'll start with that question. The dynamics internationally are not different than the United States. We have premium products that we sell through specialized sales forces. The reason that we're experiencing higher growth in the US right now versus these markets primarily is because of the timing of launches. So we get these approvals early in the US. Europe, in particular, with the EU MDR has been extremely frustrating. And it's taking us Insignia, Pangea. These LIFEPaks just got approved. These products aren't yet on the market. And they're really important products. And then Mako has taken longer for us to really get that going. And that's not unusual where these international markets tend to want to wait to see more data before they'll start to grow.
Speaker #4: I'll start. Thanks. With that question, the dynamics internationally are not different than in the United States. We have premium products that we sell through specialized sales forces.
Speaker #4: The reason that we're experiencing higher growth in the US right now versus these markets, primarily, is because of the timing of launches. So we get these approvals early in the US. Europe, in particular with the UMDR, has been extremely frustrating and is taking us—Insignia, Pangea.
Speaker #4: These light packs just got approved. These products aren't yet on the market, and they're really important products. And then Mako has taken longer for us to really get that going.
Speaker #4: And that's not unusual, where these international markets tend to want to wait to see more data before they'll start to grow. But aside from the last two years, we had about five years in a row where international was growing faster than the US.
Jason Beach: But aside from the last two years, we had about five years in a row where international was growing faster than the US. We've now stepped up our US growth rate really significantly. But the opportunity in international is significant. And as these products do reach these markets, you should expect to see a pretty similar dynamic as to what you see in the United States. Now, obviously, pricing and margins can vary by country, some being as good as the US, some being a little less. But we don't see the growth opportunity being really much different outside the US than it is in the United States.
But aside from the last two years, we had about five years in a row where international was growing faster than the US. We've now stepped up our US growth rate really significantly. But the opportunity in international is significant. And as these products do reach these markets, you should expect to see a pretty similar dynamic as to what you see in the United States. Now, obviously, pricing and margins can vary by country, some being as good as the US, some being a little less. But we don't see the growth opportunity being really much different outside the US than it is in the United States.
Speaker #4: We've now stepped up our U.S. growth rate really significantly. But the opportunity in international is significant. And as these products do reach these markets, you should expect to see a pretty similar dynamic to what you see in the United States.
Speaker #4: Now, obviously, pricing and margins can vary by country, some being as good as the US, some being a little less. But if we don't see the growth opportunity being really much different outside the US than it is in the United
Speaker #4: Now, obviously, pricing and margins can vary by country—some being as good as the US, some being a little less. But we don't see the growth opportunity being really much different outside the US than it is in the United States.
Kevin Lobo: Matt, I'll take that.
Kevin Lobo: Matt, I'll take that.
Speaker #4: Matt, I'll Yeah, that's helpful.
Speaker #4: take this. Yeah, you got the recurring. Yeah, Matt, I'll take that. No, no problem. This is Jason. I think the way I would characterize that, and you've heard us kind of say this in the past, is 25%-ish of our revenue is capital related.
Jason Beach: Matt, I'll take that.
Jason Beach: Matt, I'll take that.
Kevin Lobo: Yeah, Matt, I'll take that.
Jason Beach: No, no problem. This is Jason. I think the way I would characterize that, and you've heard us kind of say this in the past, is 25%-ish of our revenue is capital-related. Of that split, 15% of the capital is more closely tied to procedures, so the smaller capital. Then the 10% revenue, the larger capital, so booms, lights, beds, etc. Then kind of that 75%, I would say, procedurally driven, whether it's recurring and disposables, the implants, etc.
Kevin Lobo: Yeah, Matt, I'll take that.
Jason Beach: No, no problem. This is Jason. I think the way I would characterize that, and you've heard us kind of say this in the past, is 25%-ish of our revenue is capital-related. Of that split, 15% of the capital is more closely tied to procedures, so the smaller capital. Then the 10% revenue, the larger capital, so booms, lights, beds, etc. Then kind of that 75%, I would say, procedurally driven, whether it's recurring and disposables, the implants, etc.
Speaker #4: And of that split, 15% of the capital is more closely tied to procedures. So the smaller capital and then the 10% revenue, the larger capital, so booms, lights, beds, etc., and then kind of that 75%, I would say, procedurally driven, whether it's reoccurring and disposables, the implants, etc.
Speaker #4: And of that split, 15% of the capital is more closely tied to procedures. So the smaller capital and then the 10% revenue, the larger capital, so booms, lights, beds, etc., and then kind of that 75%, I would say, procedurally driven, whether it's reoccurring and disposables, the implants,
Speaker #10: Got it. Thank you. And then for Preston, just there's a couple of questions on margins, but the one that we often wonder is this point in the year is you've got a range for the top line.
Kevin Lobo: Got it. Thank you. And then for Preston, just there's a couple of questions on margins. But the one that we often wonder at this point in the year is, if you've got a range for the top line and a chance to beat the top end of the range, how should we think about the flex in the model if and possibly when you break through the higher end of the range? Thinking about OpEx investment versus drops to the bottom line. Thanks.
Matthew Miksic: Got it. Thank you. And then for Preston, just there's a couple of questions on margins. But the one that we often wonder at this point in the year is, if you've got a range for the top line and a chance to beat the top end of the range, how should we think about the flex in the model if and possibly when you break through the higher end of the range? Thinking about OpEx investment versus drops to the bottom line. Thanks.
Speaker #10: And a chance to beat the top end of the range—how should we think about the flex in the model if, and possibly when, you break through the higher end of the range? Where is it, in terms of thinking about OpEx investment versus drops to the bottom line?
Speaker #10: Thanks.
Speaker #4: Yeah.
Jason Beach: Yeah, absolutely. So we have a range on the top, as you said. And certainly, as we deliver that, if we're able to deliver towards the top end of that range, it does drop some additional margin or additional profits down. But also remember, there's some costs that come with that in terms of, obviously, tariffs are fluctuating with our business. And then also just the investment that it takes for us to put back in to have those growth rates. So it's something that we balance as we look at the entirety of our P&L and obviously with both the growth rates, but then funding for future growth rates as well when we look at what we drop down from a margin standpoint. But I think you could look at this year as a good example, right? So we moved up our top line this year.
Preston Wells: Yeah, absolutely. So we have a range on the top, as you said. And certainly, as we deliver that, if we're able to deliver towards the top end of that range, it does drop some additional margin or additional profits down. But also remember, there's some costs that come with that in terms of, obviously, tariffs are fluctuating with our business. And then also just the investment that it takes for us to put back in to have those growth rates. So it's something that we balance as we look at the entirety of our P&L and obviously with both the growth rates, but then funding for future growth rates as well when we look at what we drop down from a margin standpoint. But I think you could look at this year as a good example, right? So we moved up our top line this year.
Speaker #4: Absolutely. So we have a range on the top, as you said. And certainly, as we deliver that, if we're able to deliver towards the top end of that range, it does drop some additional margin or additional profits down.
Speaker #4: But it also remember, there's some costs that come with that in terms of obviously tariffs are fluctuating with our business. And then also just the investment that it takes for us to put back into have those growth rates.
Speaker #4: So it's something that we balance as we look at the entirety of our P&L and obviously with both the growth rates, but then funding for future growth rates as well.
Speaker #4: And when we look at what we drop
Speaker #4: down from a margin standpoint. But I think
Speaker #3: You could look at this year as a good example, right? So, we moved up our top line this year. We also moved up our bottom line.
Jason Beach: We also moved up our bottom line this year. So that could be a good proxy for you to see that if we start moving the top line up, we're not going to just reinvest all of it. There will be an amount that we drop through. If we see some opportunities for—we're always looking to sort of self-fund reinvestment. But this is a good—you could look at 2025 as a good proxy for what hopefully will happen in 2026.
We also moved up our bottom line this year. So that could be a good proxy for you to see that if we start moving the top line up, we're not going to just reinvest all of it. There will be an amount that we drop through. If we see some opportunities for—we're always looking to sort of self-fund reinvestment. But this is a good—you could look at 2025 as a good proxy for what hopefully will happen in 2026.
Speaker #3: This year. So that could be a good proxy for you to see that if we start moving the top line up, we're not going to just reinvest all of it.
Speaker #3: There will be an amount that we drop through. If we see some opportunities, we're always looking to sort of self-fund reinvestment. But this is a good— you could look at 2025 as a good proxy for what hopefully will happen in—
Speaker #3: 2026. Your next question will come from Chris.
Operator: Your next question will come from Chris Pasquale with Nephron Research.
Operator: Your next question will come from Chris Pasquale with Nephron Research.
Speaker #2: Pascual with Nefron Research.
Speaker #11: Thanks. And one on pricing and then one on Inari. So the pricing benefit you reported for med services quarter, I think it was the smallest we've seen since 2022.
Kevin Lobo: Thanks. And then one on pricing and then one on Inari. So the pricing benefit you reported for MedSurg this quarter, I think, was the smallest we've seen since 2022. Was there anything sort of quirky about this quarter that drove that? And since MedSurg has been the primary driver of the net positive pricing across the broader business, are you expecting to see that go back up here as we go into 2026?
Christopher Pasquale: Thanks. And then one on pricing and then one on Inari. So the pricing benefit you reported for MedSurg this quarter, I think, was the smallest we've seen since 2022. Was there anything sort of quirky about this quarter that drove that? And since MedSurg has been the primary driver of the net positive pricing across the broader business, are you expecting to see that go back up here as we go into 2026?
Speaker #11: Was there anything sort of quirky about this quarter that drove that? And since Med Surg has been the primary driver of the net positive pricing across the broader business, are you expecting to see that go back up here as we go into—
Speaker #11: '26? Yeah, there
Jason Beach: Yeah, there was one deal in particular outside the US that drove some negative pricing on the MedSurg side. But overall, the fundamentals still remain the same. And we would expect to continue to see a pretty steady cadence of price coming from that business in 2026.
Jason Beach: Yeah, there was one deal in particular outside the US that drove some negative pricing on the MedSurg side. But overall, the fundamentals still remain the same. And we would expect to continue to see a pretty steady cadence of price coming from that business in 2026.
Speaker #4: was one deal in particular outside the US that drove some negative pricing on the med surg side. But overall, the fundamentals still remain the same.
Speaker #4: And we would expect this continues to see a pretty steady cadence of price coming from that business in 2026.
Speaker #11: Okay. That's helpful. And then on Inari and the clinical pipeline there, we saw one competitor's pulmonary embolism trial read out back at TCT. We're going to see another one at ACC in late March.
Kevin Lobo: Okay. That's helpful. And then on Inari and the clinical pipeline there, we saw one competitor's pulmonary embolism trial read out back at TCT. We're going to see another one at ACC in late March. ClinicalTrials.gov right now has Peerless 2 wrapping up this year. Is that still accurate? And when should we expect to see your data?
Christopher Pasquale: Okay. That's helpful. And then on Inari and the clinical pipeline there, we saw one competitor's pulmonary embolism trial read out back at TCT. We're going to see another one at ACC in late March. ClinicalTrials.gov right now has Peerless 2 wrapping up this year. Is that still accurate? And when should we expect to see your data?
Speaker #11: Clinicaltrials.gov right now has peerless two wrapping up this year. Is that still accurate? And when should we expect to see your data?
Speaker #4: Hey, Chris, it's Jason. No, it's actually going to be closer to the middle of next year, in terms of results.
Jason Beach: Hey, Chris, it's Jason. No, it's actually going to be closer to middle of next year in terms of results.
Jason Beach: Hey, Chris, it's Jason. No, it's actually going to be closer to middle of next year in terms of results.
Speaker #2: Your next question will come from Danielle Antolfi with UBS.
Operator: Your next question will come from Danielle Antalffy with UBS.
Operator: Your next question will come from Danielle Antalffy with UBS.
Speaker #12: Hey, good afternoon, guys. Thanks so much for taking the question because we're out on a really strong 2025. Just following up on—excuse me—Chris' question on pricing, just at a higher level. Seriously, I know you guys had talked about—
[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Hey, good afternoon, guys. Thanks so much for taking the question. Congrats on a really strong 2025. Just following up on, excuse me, Chris's question on pricing, just at a higher level, Stryker, I know you guys had talked about, broadly speaking, that you saw over the last two years starting, you're expecting that to wane. It sounds like that's reflected in guidance. But I'm just curious about how you're seeing potentially your hospital customers, ASC customers. Are they changing the way they're contracting at all or on price? I'm just curious because, obviously, one of the narratives is with ACA subsidies expiring, hospitals could be more constrained from a budget perspective as we move further away from the change in purchasing patterns during COVID. Thanks so much.
Danielle Antalffy: Hey, good afternoon, guys. Thanks so much for taking the question. Congrats on a really strong 2025. Just following up on, excuse me, Chris's question on pricing, just at a higher level, Stryker, I know you guys had talked about, broadly speaking, that you saw over the last two years starting, you're expecting that to wane. It sounds like that's reflected in guidance. But I'm just curious about how you're seeing potentially your hospital customers, ASC customers. Are they changing the way they're contracting at all or on price? I'm just curious because, obviously, one of the narratives is with ACA subsidies expiring, hospitals could be more constrained from a budget perspective as we move further away from the change in purchasing patterns during COVID. Thanks so much.
Speaker #12: Broadly speaking, that you saw over the last two years starting you're expecting that to wane. It sounds like that's reflected in guidance. But I'm just curious about how your seeing potentially your hospital customers, ASP customers, are they changing the way they're contracting at.
Speaker #12: Or on price? I'm just curious because, obviously, one of the narratives is with ACA subsidies expiring, hospitals could be more constrained from a budget perspective.
Speaker #12: And as we move further away from the change in purchasing patterns during COVID. Thanks so much.
Speaker #4: Yeah, Danielle, thanks for the question. In terms of price, I mean, price has always been something that's been a negotiation in terms of where we've been trying to gain price.
Jason Beach: Yeah, Danielle, thanks for the question. In terms of price, I mean, price has always been something that's been a negotiation in terms of where we've been trying to gain price. And it's something that we, quite frankly, have gotten better as we've talked about over the last few years. And certainly, as we look at contracting, that's an element of where we've really improved over the last few years. And so I think our ability to go out and make sure that we are working those contracts appropriately across our entire book of business has really helped us in terms of that pricing element. And we expect that to continue into 2026. And as you said, it is built into what our expectations are from a top line and guidance standpoint.
Jason Beach: Yeah, Danielle, thanks for the question. In terms of price, I mean, price has always been something that's been a negotiation in terms of where we've been trying to gain price. And it's something that we, quite frankly, have gotten better as we've talked about over the last few years. And certainly, as we look at contracting, that's an element of where we've really improved over the last few years. And so I think our ability to go out and make sure that we are working those contracts appropriately across our entire book of business has really helped us in terms of that pricing element. And we expect that to continue into 2026. And as you said, it is built into what our expectations are from a top line and guidance standpoint.
Speaker #4: And it’s something that we, quite frankly, have gotten better at, as we've talked about over the last few years. And certainly, as we look at contracting, that’s an element where we’ve really improved over the last few years.
Speaker #4: And so I think our ability to go out and make sure that we are working those contracts appropriately across our entire book of business has really helped us in terms of that pricing element.
Speaker #4: And we expect that to continue into 2026. And, as you said, it is built into what our expectations are from a top line and guidance.
Speaker #4: standpoint. Yeah, I think overall for the
Jason Beach: Yeah, I think overall, for the full year, you should expect a pricing result that's not that different than what we had in 2025. From quarter to quarter, it may move a little bit. But we expect something pretty similar in 2026 as we experience in 2025.
Jason Beach: Yeah, I think overall, for the full year, you should expect a pricing result that's not that different than what we had in 2025. From quarter to quarter, it may move a little bit. But we expect something pretty similar in 2026 as we experience in 2025.
Speaker #3: For the full year, you should expect a pricing result that's not that different than we had in 2025. From quarter to quarter, it may move a little bit.
Speaker #3: But we expect something pretty similar in '26 as we experienced in '25.
Speaker #12: Okay. Thank you.
[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Okay. Thank you.
Danielle Antalffy: Okay. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Your next question will come from Patrick Wood with Morgan Stanley.
Operator: Your next question will come from Patrick Wood with Morgan Stanley.
Operator: Your next question will come from Patrick Wood with Morgan Stanley.
Speaker #13: Beautiful. Thanks so much for the question. ASCs, obviously, we've all talked about hips and knees a fair bit, but CMS moved at the back end of last year to really delete all the rest of the inpatient-only list.
[Analyst] (Citi): Beautiful. Thanks so much for the question. ASCs, obviously, we've all talked about hips and knees a fair bit. But CMS moved to the back end of last year to really delete all the rest of the inpatient-only list. And it seems kind of clear where the direction is going. From your perspective, what are the implications for that, if any, with an endoscopy and everything else? Is your share in some of these categories high enough that it's like, "Hey, it's just a change of site of care"? Or is this a marginal change that actually matters to the business?
Patrick Wood: Beautiful. Thanks so much for the question. ASCs, obviously, we've all talked about hips and knees a fair bit. But CMS moved to the back end of last year to really delete all the rest of the inpatient-only list. And it seems kind of clear where the direction is going. From your perspective, what are the implications for that, if any, with an endoscopy and everything else? Is your share in some of these categories high enough that it's like, "Hey, it's just a change of site of care"? Or is this a marginal change that actually matters to the business?
Speaker #13: And it seems kind of clear where the direction is going. From your perspective, what are the implications for that, if any? With an endoscopy and everything else, is your share in some of these categories high enough that it's like, 'Hey, it's just a change of site of care?'
Speaker #13: Or is this like a marginal change that actually matters to the business?
Speaker #3: Yeah, I think you answered it well. Our high market share is just a new site for us. But I think what really can help us is, again, if they have new construction of ASCs, it just gives us—if new procedures are added and start being done in ASCs, procedures where we have implants—that only helps us to provide a more full offering to the ASC.
Jason Beach: Yeah, I think you answered it well. Our high market share is just a new—it's just a new site for us. But I think what really can help us is, again, if there's new construction of ASCs, it just gives us—if new procedures are added and start being done in ASCs, procedures where we have implants, that only helps us to provide a more full offering to the ASC. We already have the broadest offering by far in the industry, which is why we win at a very high rate, new construction and big rebuilds of ASCs. So the more procedures that go, the more that provides—we provide that full service. And they need financing for their capital equipment in these ASCs, unlike hospitals that have the capital balance sheets to be able to provide to buy capital.
Jason Beach: Yeah, I think you answered it well. Our high market share is just a new—it's just a new site for us. But I think what really can help us is, again, if there's new construction of ASCs, it just gives us—if new procedures are added and start being done in ASCs, procedures where we have implants, that only helps us to provide a more full offering to the ASC. We already have the broadest offering by far in the industry, which is why we win at a very high rate, new construction and big rebuilds of ASCs. So the more procedures that go, the more that provides—we provide that full service. And they need financing for their capital equipment in these ASCs, unlike hospitals that have the capital balance sheets to be able to provide to buy capital.
Speaker #3: We already have the broadest offering by far in the industry, which is why we win at a very high rate new construction and big rebuilds of ASCs.
Speaker #3: So the more procedures that go, the more that provides we provide that full service and they need financing for their capital equipment in these ASCs, unlike hospitals that have the capital balance sheets to be able to provide to buy capital.
Speaker #3: So, we look forward to this change as things move to the ASC, which I think will continue clearly. You can see CMS is pushing it.
Jason Beach: So we look forward to this change as things move to the ASC, which I think will continue. Clearly, you can see CMS is pushing it. We've seen this trend happening. Our sports business tends to be a big beneficiary. And they had an absolutely phenomenal year again. They continue to grow extremely well and benefit from this push to the ASC because if they're doing orthopedics, hips, and knees, they always do sports as well. And they tend to be a big part of these contracts. So we look forward to the change of procedures moving to the ASC. And I think it only helps Stryker just given the breadth of our portfolio.
So we look forward to this change as things move to the ASC, which I think will continue. Clearly, you can see CMS is pushing it. We've seen this trend happening. Our sports business tends to be a big beneficiary. And they had an absolutely phenomenal year again. They continue to grow extremely well and benefit from this push to the ASC because if they're doing orthopedics, hips, and knees, they always do sports as well. And they tend to be a big part of these contracts. So we look forward to the change of procedures moving to the ASC. And I think it only helps Stryker just given the breadth of our portfolio.
Speaker #3: We've seen this trend happening. Our sports business tends to be a big beneficiary, and they had an absolutely phenomenal year. Again, they continue to grow extremely well and benefit from this push to the ASC because if they're doing orthopedics, hips and knees, they always do sports as well.
Speaker #3: And they tend to be a big part of these contracts. So we look forward to the change of procedures moving to the ASC. And I think it only helps Stryker just given the breadth of our
Speaker #3: And they tend to be a big part of these contracts. So we look forward to the change of procedures moving to the ASC. And I think it only helps Stryker just given the breadth of our portfolio.
Speaker #13: That's great. And then just very quickly on the M&A side of things. If I remember correctly when you guys did NARI, you sort of referenced it as part of maybe a launch pad or something like that.
[Analyst] (Citi): That's great. And then just very quickly on the M&A side of things. If I remember correctly, when you guys did Inari, you sort of referenced it as part of maybe a launchpad or something to that degree. It was clear that that channel and vascular in general was something you wanted to continue to build out. Is that still the case? Would you look at things like calcium management and other things that are sort of ancillary to that? Is that still a key focus area or not so much?
Patrick Wood: That's great. And then just very quickly on the M&A side of things. If I remember correctly, when you guys did Inari, you sort of referenced it as part of maybe a launchpad or something to that degree. It was clear that that channel and vascular in general was something you wanted to continue to build out. Is that still the case? Would you look at things like calcium management and other things that are sort of ancillary to that? Is that still a key focus area or not so much?
Speaker #13: It was clear that that channel, and vascular in general, was something you wanted to continue to build out. Is that still the case? Would you look at things like calcium management and other things that are sort of ancillary to that?
Speaker #13: Is that still a key focus area, or not so?
Speaker #13: much? Yeah, listen, whenever we buy a
Jason Beach: Yeah. Listen, whenever we buy a business that enters a space, we never are one and done. We're going to continue to build all around that business and fortify the PV business. And obviously, that links to a broader vascular set of customers that once we start to get to know a customer, we want to help solve their problems. So yes, that's now part of our acquisition set that previously wasn't the case. And then same thing with HIT. So we did Vocera. Then we did care.ai. Don't be surprised if we do more acquisitions in the health IT space. So we're constantly on the hunt. Every time we buy something, it opens up new windows for us. And we are definitely looking at the broad universe in that vascular world.
Jason Beach: Yeah. Listen, whenever we buy a business that enters a space, we never are one and done. We're going to continue to build all around that business and fortify the PV business. And obviously, that links to a broader vascular set of customers that once we start to get to know a customer, we want to help solve their problems. So yes, that's now part of our acquisition set that previously wasn't the case. And then same thing with HIT. So we did Vocera. Then we did care.ai. Don't be surprised if we do more acquisitions in the health IT space. So we're constantly on the hunt. Every time we buy something, it opens up new windows for us. And we are definitely looking at the broad universe in that vascular world.
Speaker #3: Any business that enters a space, we are never one and done. We're going to continue to build all around that business and fortify the PB business.
Speaker #3: And obviously, that links to a broader vascular set of customers, that once we start to know a customer, we want to help solve their problems.
Speaker #3: So yes, that's now part of our acquisition set; that previously wasn't the case. And then same thing with HIT. So we did Vocera, then we did Care.ai.
Speaker #3: Don't be surprised if we do more acquisitions in the health IT space. So we're constantly on the hunt every time we buy something, it opens up new windows for us.
Speaker #3: And we are definitely looking at the broad universe in that vascular world.
Speaker #2: Your next question will come from Mike Matson with Needham.
Operator: Your next question will come from Mike Matson with Needham & Company.
Operator: Your next question will come from Mike Matson with Needham & Company.
Speaker #2: Company. Yes.
Speaker #14: Yeah, thanks for taking my questions. Just a couple more on MAKO. So with MAKO 4, are you getting a pricing increase relative to the older version?
[Analyst] (Needham & Company): Yeah. Thanks for taking my questions. Just a couple more on Mako. So with Mako 4, are you getting pricing increased relative to the older version? And then similar question with, as you start to launch Mako Shoulder and Mako Spine, are there, I seem to remember you talking about some upgrade fees the customer would have to pay even if they have an existing Mako system that they want to add that capability to. And are these things that could become meaningful drivers for that part of the business?
Michael Matson: Yeah. Thanks for taking my questions. Just a couple more on Mako. So with Mako 4, are you getting pricing increased relative to the older version? And then similar question with, as you start to launch Mako Shoulder and Mako Spine, are there, I seem to remember you talking about some upgrade fees the customer would have to pay even if they have an existing Mako system that they want to add that capability to. And are these things that could become meaningful drivers for that part of the business?
Speaker #14: And then, similar question—with, as you start to launch MAKO Shoulder and Spine, are there, I see and remember you talking about some upgrade fees the customer would have to pay, even if they have an existing MAKO system that they want to add that capability to.
Speaker #14: And are these things that could become meaningful drivers for that part of the business?
Speaker #3: Yeah, listen, we're not going to get into our pricing for competitive reasons. We're not going to disclose our pricing at least for the base robot.
Jason Beach: Yeah. Listen, we're not going to get into our pricing for competitive reasons. We're not going to disclose our pricing, at least for the base robot. But every time you have extra applications, you have to pay a software fee or license, if you will, to be able to use the new software. So if they buy the Mako 4 for knees and hips, but then they want to add shoulder, then there is a charge for that, a one-time charge upon the installation of that software. That's been consistent throughout our Mako approach.
Jason Beach: Yeah. Listen, we're not going to get into our pricing for competitive reasons. We're not going to disclose our pricing, at least for the base robot. But every time you have extra applications, you have to pay a software fee or license, if you will, to be able to use the new software. So if they buy the Mako 4 for knees and hips, but then they want to add shoulder, then there is a charge for that, a one-time charge upon the installation of that software. That's been consistent throughout our Mako approach.
Speaker #3: But every time you have extra applications, you have to pay a software fee, or license if you will, to be able to use the new software.
Speaker #3: So if they buy the MACO 4 for knees and hips, but then they want to add shoulder, then there is a charge for that a one-time charge that upon the installation of that software.
Speaker #3: That's been consistent throughout our MACO
Speaker #3: approach. Okay, got it.
[Analyst] (Needham & Company): Okay. Got it. And then just on the tariff impact, the $200 million this year, last year, you said you would fully absorb that. Is that the case again this year? And is there any ability to mitigate any of the impact that the $200 million? Can that come down over time with mitigation efforts? Thanks.
Michael Matson: Okay. Got it. And then just on the tariff impact, the $200 million this year, last year, you said you would fully absorb that. Is that the case again this year? And is there any ability to mitigate any of the impact that the $200 million? Can that come down over time with mitigation efforts? Thanks.
Speaker #14: And then just on the tariff impact, the 200 million this year, last year you said you would fully absorb that. Is that the case again this year?
Speaker #14: And is there any ability to mitigate any of the impact of the $200 million? Can that come down over time with mitigation efforts? Thanks.
Speaker #3: Yeah, so what you see with that 200 really is the net result of mitigation activities that we've been taking for the past year as this whole tariff item has really come to bear over the last year.
Jason Beach: Yeah. So what you see with that $200 million really is the net result of mitigation activities that we've been taking for the past year as this whole tariff item has really come to bear over the last year. So that is reflective of the annualization, really, of all the work and activity that's been done. And as you'll look at our guidance that we gave, you can see when you do the work around the margin pieces of it that we have, in fact, built that into our expectations. Yeah. A total of $400 million. And we're still driving margin expansion. We drove a significant amount this year with $200 million. We've got another $200 million. And you'll do the math through your models. You'll see we're going to drive meaningful margin expansion in the face of this extra $200 million. So our margin muscle is really good.
Jason Beach: Yeah. So what you see with that $200 million really is the net result of mitigation activities that we've been taking for the past year as this whole tariff item has really come to bear over the last year. So that is reflective of the annualization, really, of all the work and activity that's been done. And as you'll look at our guidance that we gave, you can see when you do the work around the margin pieces of it that we have, in fact, built that into our expectations. Yeah. A total of $400 million. And we're still driving margin expansion. We drove a significant amount this year with $200 million. We've got another $200 million. And you'll do the math through your models. You'll see we're going to drive meaningful margin expansion in the face of this extra $200 million. So our margin muscle is really good.
Speaker #3: So that is reflective of the annualization really of all the work and activity that's been done. And as you'll look at our guidance that we gave, you can see when you do the work around the margin pieces of it that we have, in fact, built that into our
Speaker #3: expectations. Yeah, a total of 400
Speaker #14: million and we're still driving margin expansion. We drove it significant amount this year with 200 million. We've got another 200 million. And you'll do the math through your models.
Speaker #14: You'll see we're going to drive meaningful margin expense in the face of this extra $200 million. So our margin muscle is really good.
Speaker #14: This is not something I could have said seven or eight years ago. I think if we had had this level of tariffs, you would not be seeing us continue to drive expansion to the level that we are.
Jason Beach: This is not something I could have said 7, 8 years ago. I think if we had had this level of tariffs, you would not be seeing us continue to drive expansion to the level that we are. So we have built some earnings power in our company.
This is not something I could have said 7, 8 years ago. I think if we had had this level of tariffs, you would not be seeing us continue to drive expansion to the level that we are. So we have built some earnings power in our company.
Speaker #14: So, we have built some earnings power in our company.
Speaker #2: Your next question will come from Shagan Singh.
Operator: Your next question will come from Shagun Singh with RBC.
Operator: Your next question will come from Shagun Singh with RBC.
Speaker #15: Great. Thank you so much. One on MACO. You guys shared some metrics, two, third, one, third of knees and hips on MACO. And then utilization rate 50 and 20% respectively.
[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Great. Thank you so much. One on Mako, you guys shared some metrics, 2/3, 1/3 of knees and hips on Mako, and then utilization rate, 50% and 20%, respectively. Where do you think these metrics go over time? And what are the key drivers there? And then as we think about market penetration of recon robotics, anything you can share with respect to where we stand from a procedure and then a capital placement standpoint? Thank you for taking the question.
Shagun Singh: Great. Thank you so much. One on Mako, you guys shared some metrics, 2/3, 1/3 of knees and hips on Mako, and then utilization rate, 50% and 20%, respectively. Where do you think these metrics go over time? And what are the key drivers there? And then as we think about market penetration of recon robotics, anything you can share with respect to where we stand from a procedure and then a capital placement standpoint? Thank you for taking the question.
Speaker #15: Where do you think these metrics go over time? And what are the key drivers there? And then, as we think about market penetration of Recon Robotics, anything you can share with respect to where we stand from a procedure and then a capital placement standpoint?
Speaker #15: Thank you for taking the
Speaker #15: question. Well, as it relates
Jason Beach: Well, as it relates to robotics, I don't think there's any limit. I think robotics can become standard of care at some point in time. It's not like cementless where I don't think cementless knees will get to 100 because of bone quality. In the case of robotics, I don't see a limit to how much can be done. And we're over 2/3 in the US and over 1/3. And what I like is I see the hip starting to inflect upwards. So with the launch of Mako 4, the new software, it's called the 5.0 software for hip, which is really amazing for revisions. But once the surgeon starts to do it for revisions, they start to realize it could be very good for primaries also. So very bullish on that potential. Is there a second question, Jay? Okay. Thank you.
Jason Beach: Well, as it relates to robotics, I don't think there's any limit. I think robotics can become standard of care at some point in time. It's not like cementless where I don't think cementless knees will get to 100 because of bone quality. In the case of robotics, I don't see a limit to how much can be done. And we're over 2/3 in the US and over 1/3. And what I like is I see the hip starting to inflect upwards. So with the launch of Mako 4, the new software, it's called the 5.0 software for hip, which is really amazing for revisions. But once the surgeon starts to do it for revisions, they start to realize it could be very good for primaries also. So very bullish on that potential. Is there a second question, Jay? Okay. Thank you.
Speaker #3: to robotics, I don't think there's any limit. I think robotics can become standard of care at some point in time. It's not like cementless where I don't think cementless knees will get to 100 because of bone quality in the case of robotics.
Speaker #3: I don't see a limit to how much can be done. And we're over two-thirds in the US and over a third overall. And what I like is I see the hips starting to inflect upwards.
Speaker #3: So, with the launch of MAKO 4, that's the new software. It's called the 5.0 software for hip, which is really amazing for revisions. But once the surgeon starts to use it for revisions, they start to realize it could be very good for primaries also.
Speaker #3: So, very bullish on that potential. Is there a second question? Okay. Thank you.
Speaker #3: You. Your next question will come from Richard.
Operator: Your next question will come from Richard Newitter with Truist.
Operator: Your next question will come from Richard Newitter with Truist.
Speaker #2: Neuwetter with Truist.
Speaker #14: Hi, thanks for taking the questions. I just wanted to go back to the price comment. I hear you loud and clear, Kevin. Your overall price assumption is not dramatically different from last year for ’26.
[Analyst] (Needham & Company): Hi. Thanks for taking the question. I just wanted to go back to the price comments. I hear you loud and clear, Kevin. Your overall price assumption is not dramatically different from last year for 2026. But just within the components, I just want to kind of reconcile with some comments I think I've heard you make in the past between MedSurg and Ortho. And just tell me, if you can, if this is directionally correct. But my understanding was that MedSurg is over the long-range plan that I would presume in 2026 as well, about positive 100 to 200 basis points. And then your Ortho I think has tended to be in a negative 1% to negative 2% range. And maybe that's a little bit more towards the negative 2% part of that range. Then you net those two out, and you're somewhere similar-ish to last year.
Richard Newitter: Hi. Thanks for taking the question. I just wanted to go back to the price comments. I hear you loud and clear, Kevin. Your overall price assumption is not dramatically different from last year for 2026. But just within the components, I just want to kind of reconcile with some comments I think I've heard you make in the past between MedSurg and Ortho. And just tell me, if you can, if this is directionally correct. But my understanding was that MedSurg is over the long-range plan that I would presume in 2026 as well, about positive 100 to 200 basis points. And then your Ortho I think has tended to be in a negative 1% to negative 2% range. And maybe that's a little bit more towards the negative 2% part of that range. Then you net those two out, and you're somewhere similar-ish to last year.
Speaker #14: But just within the components, I just want to kind of reconcile some comments I think I've heard you make in the past between Med Surg and Ortho, and just tell me if you can, if this is directionally correct.
Speaker #14: But my understanding was that Med Surg, over the long-range plan—I would presume in '26 as well—about positive 100 to 200 basis points.
Speaker #14: And then your ortho, I think, has tended to be in a negative 1 to negative 2% range. And maybe that's a little bit more towards the negative 2% part of that range.
Speaker #14: Then you net those two out and you're somewhere you're somewhere similar-ish to last year. Is that the right way to think about it? Sorry to get so specific, but I think it would be helpful
[Analyst] (Needham & Company): Is that the right way to think about it? Sorry to get so specific, but I think it would be helpful to investors.
Is that the right way to think about it? Sorry to get so specific, but I think it would be helpful to investors.
Speaker #14: to investors. Yeah, look, I'm
Jason Beach: Yeah. Look, I'm not going to be that specific. I think your outer ranges are probably a little bit high on both sides, on both the implant side as well as the MedSurg side. But MedSurg will be positive. The orthopedics will be slightly negative. And the two will net to something similar to what we experienced this year going forward. I'm not excited or worried at all about our price. We have a really good offense. We understand what happens quarter by quarter. We feel like we're in a pretty stable pricing environment. And keep in mind, these are just like-for-like products, right? So this does not include when we launch a new product, we obviously launch at a higher price. And those products don't show up in price for at least another year until at anniversaries. So I just want to make sure you remember that as well.
Jason Beach: Yeah. Look, I'm not going to be that specific. I think your outer ranges are probably a little bit high on both sides, on both the implant side as well as the MedSurg side. But MedSurg will be positive. The orthopedics will be slightly negative. And the two will net to something similar to what we experienced this year going forward. I'm not excited or worried at all about our price. We have a really good offense. We understand what happens quarter by quarter. We feel like we're in a pretty stable pricing environment. And keep in mind, these are just like-for-like products, right? So this does not include when we launch a new product, we obviously launch at a higher price. And those products don't show up in price for at least another year until at anniversaries. So I just want to make sure you remember that as well.
Speaker #3: I'm not going to be that specific. I think your outer ranges are probably a little bit high on both sides—on both the implant side as well as the MedSurg side.
Speaker #3: But Med Surg will be positive. The Orthopedics will be slightly negative. And the two will net to something similar to what we experienced this year going forward.
Speaker #3: I'm not excited or worried at all about our price. We have a really good offense. We understand what happens quarter by quarter. We feel like we're in a pretty stable pricing environment.
Speaker #3: And keep in mind, these are just like-for-like products, right? So, this does not include when we launch a new product. We obviously launch at a higher price.
Speaker #3: And those products don't show up in price for at least another year, until anniversaries. So I just want to make sure you remember that as well.
Speaker #14: Got it. And then maybe just on Triathlon Gold—this sounds like a pretty interesting incremental opportunity for you to kind of gain back some share in an area where you just didn't have a product.
[Analyst] (Needham & Company): Got it. And then maybe just on Triathlon Gold, this sounds like a pretty interesting incremental opportunity for you to kind of gain back some share in an area where you just didn't have a product. Can you just quantify kind of what percentage of the market this potentially just gives you re-access to, and how we should think about that, and if that's the right way to think about it?
Richard Newitter: Got it. And then maybe just on Triathlon Gold, this sounds like a pretty interesting incremental opportunity for you to kind of gain back some share in an area where you just didn't have a product. Can you just quantify kind of what percentage of the market this potentially just gives you re-access to, and how we should think about that, and if that's the right way to think about it?
Speaker #14: Could you just quantify kind of what percentage of the market this potentially just gives you re-access to, and how we should think about that, and if that's the right way to think?
Speaker #14: about it? Yeah, look, it's
Jason Beach: Yeah. Look, it's an important product that is actually premium priced versus a standard implant. It's roughly 5% of the market, but we didn't have an offering. So we would have Stryker-loyal surgeons that would actually switch to a competitor to be able to do this if they had a metal-sensitive patient. And frankly, what my hope is, given that you can do this cementless, and if the product performs really well, that 5% might actually grow. It's not just for metal sensitivities. This is, let's call it, an advanced bearing implant. So I'm not going to promise that, but there is the potential for this to continue to grow and grow the market beyond 5% of the total implants. It's really a wonderful product. The feedback so far has been very positive. But it's roughly 5%. We were not playing at all.
Jason Beach: Yeah. Look, it's an important product that is actually premium priced versus a standard implant. It's roughly 5% of the market, but we didn't have an offering. So we would have Stryker-loyal surgeons that would actually switch to a competitor to be able to do this if they had a metal-sensitive patient. And frankly, what my hope is, given that you can do this cementless, and if the product performs really well, that 5% might actually grow. It's not just for metal sensitivities. This is, let's call it, an advanced bearing implant. So I'm not going to promise that, but there is the potential for this to continue to grow and grow the market beyond 5% of the total implants. It's really a wonderful product. The feedback so far has been very positive. But it's roughly 5%. We were not playing at all.
Speaker #3: An important product that is actually premium-priced versus a standard implant. It's roughly 5% of the market, but we didn't have an offering. So we would have Stryker-loyal surgeons that would actually switch to a competitor to be able to do this if they had a metal-sensitive patient.
Speaker #3: And frankly, what my hope is, given that you can do this cementless, and if the product performs really well, that 5% might actually grow—it's not just for metal sensitivities.
Speaker #3: This is, let's call it an advanced bearing implant. So I'm not going to promise that, but there is the potential for this to continue to grow and grow the market beyond 5% of the total implants.
Speaker #3: It's really a wonderful product. The feedback so far has been very positive, but it's roughly 5%. We were not playing at all. Stryker surgeons were not using our product.
Jason Beach: Stryker surgeons were not using our product. So this was an important gap in our portfolio that we've now filled.
Stryker surgeons were not using our product. So this was an important gap in our portfolio that we've now filled.
Speaker #3: So, this was an important gap in our portfolio that we've now filled.
Speaker #2: Your next question will come from Jeff Johnson with Baird.
Operator: Your next question will come from Jeff Johnson with Baird.
Operator: Your next question will come from Jeff Johnson with Baird.
Speaker #16: Thank you. Good evening, guys. Preston, just one follow-up question. You pointed out in your prepared remarks a softer capital environment in Europe. Could you flesh that out a little bit?
[Analyst] (JPMorgan): Thank you. Good evening, guys. Preston, just one follow-up question. You pointed in your prepared remarks to softer capital environment in Europe. Could you flesh that out a little bit? Number one. And number two, Kevin, you pointed to some of the challenges of the MDR stuff in Europe. Obviously, that's not new for you guys. Did that have any impact on the MedSurg business in Europe? And with the new proposals to simplify some of that MDR stuff, I know they're not going to vote on it in Europe until later this year, but could that accelerate some of your product approvals there? Thanks.
Jeff Johnson: Thank you. Good evening, guys. Preston, just one follow-up question. You pointed in your prepared remarks to softer capital environment in Europe. Could you flesh that out a little bit? Number one. And number two, Kevin, you pointed to some of the challenges of the MDR stuff in Europe. Obviously, that's not new for you guys. Did that have any impact on the MedSurg business in Europe? And with the new proposals to simplify some of that MDR stuff, I know they're not going to vote on it in Europe until later this year, but could that accelerate some of your product approvals there? Thanks.
Speaker #16: Number one, and number two, Kevin, you pointed to some of the challenges of the MDR stuff in Europe. Obviously, that's not new for you guys.
Speaker #16: Did that have any impact on the Med Surg business in Europe? And with the new proposals to simplify some of that MDR stuff, I know they're not going to vote on it in Europe until later this year.
Speaker #16: But could that accelerate some of your product approvals there?
Speaker #16: Thanks. Yeah,
Speaker #3: I'll take the second part of the question on UMDR. Yeah, we're really excited. Europe has woken up to the reality that they are stunting innovation and not giving patients access to products in a timely manner.
Jason Beach: Yeah. I'll take the second part of the question on EU MDR. Yeah, we're really excited. Europe has woken up to the reality that they are stunting innovation and not giving patients access to products in a timely manner. They, in many ways, overreacted to a couple of safety issues that had occurred in Europe. So we welcome the changes, and that will help us accelerate the launch of our products. It's frankly a little bit even more important on the implant side than it is on the MedSurg side with products like Insignia and Pangea taking longer to get to the market. But it affects the entire portfolio, not just for us, but for the entire industry.
Kevin Lobo: Yeah. I'll take the second part of the question on EU MDR. Yeah, we're really excited. Europe has woken up to the reality that they are stunting innovation and not giving patients access to products in a timely manner. They, in many ways, overreacted to a couple of safety issues that had occurred in Europe. So we welcome the changes, and that will help us accelerate the launch of our products. It's frankly a little bit even more important on the implant side than it is on the MedSurg side with products like Insignia and Pangea taking longer to get to the market. But it affects the entire portfolio, not just for us, but for the entire industry.
Speaker #3: In many ways, overreacted to some couple of safety issues that had occurred in Europe. So we welcome the changes and that will help us accelerate the launch of our products.
Speaker #3: It's frankly a little bit even more important on the implant side than it is on med surg side. With products like Insignia and Pangea taking longer to get to the market.
Speaker #3: But it affects the entire portfolio, not just for us, but for the—
Speaker #3: entire industry. Yeah, Jeff, it's
[Analyst] (Bank of America): Yeah. Jeff, it's Jason on the capital environment in Europe. I'm not going to get overly specific here, but what I would say, like our capital businesses in the US, there are some quarter-to-quarter where you get ups and downs in the capital business just based on purchasing cycles. So as we move into 2026, look, the order book here is healthy, and I think we'll have a good 2026 there in Europe.
Jason Beach: Yeah. Jeff, it's Jason on the capital environment in Europe. I'm not going to get overly specific here, but what I would say, like our capital businesses in the US, there are some quarter-to-quarter where you get ups and downs in the capital business just based on purchasing cycles. So as we move into 2026, look, the order book here is healthy, and I think we'll have a good 2026 there in Europe.
Speaker #4: Jason on the capital environment in Europe. I'm not going to get overly specific here, but what I would say, like our capital businesses in the US, there are some quarters where you get ups and downs in the capital business just based on purchasing cycles.
Speaker #4: So, as we move into 2026, look, the order book here is healthy, and I think we'll have a good 2026 there in Europe.
Speaker #2: Your next question will come from Matt Blackman with TD.
Operator: Your next question will come from Matt Blackman with TD Cowen.
Operator: Your next question will come from Matt Blackman with TD Cowen.
Speaker #2: Cowan. Hi, everyone.
Speaker #17: It's Drew and Ari on for Matt. Just a couple of questions. One for Kevin and one for Preston. Kevin, you brought up the breast care opportunity now that you have a specialized Salesforce.
[Analyst] (Canaccord Genuity): Hi everyone. It's Drew Ranieri on for Matt. Just a couple of questions, one for Kevin and one for Preston. Kevin, you brought up the breast care opportunity. Now that you have a specialized sales force, can you just talk about what that might mean for the endo business? Are you going to be able to push more through your installed base, or is this about utilization?
Drew Ranieri: Hi everyone. It's Drew Ranieri on for Matt. Just a couple of questions, one for Kevin and one for Preston. Kevin, you brought up the breast care opportunity. Now that you have a specialized sales force, can you just talk about what that might mean for the endo business? Are you going to be able to push more through your installed base, or is this about utilization?
Speaker #17: Can you just talk about what that might mean for the endo business? Are you going to be able to push more through your installed base or is this about utilization?
Speaker #3: Yeah, so first of all, the breast care.
Jason Beach: Yeah. So first of all, the breast care.
Kevin Lobo: Yeah. So first of all, the breast care.
Speaker #17: Can you describe that
Speaker #17: opportunity? Yeah, thanks.
[Analyst] (Canaccord Genuity): Can I grab that opportunity?
Drew Ranieri: Can I grab that opportunity?
Jason Beach: Yeah. Thanks. First of all, the breast care sales force is within our endoscopy business. So we were already calling on them, but we didn't have a focus. And the acquisition of MOLLI, the marker, in addition to Novadaq, the exoscope, in addition to the tissue from Novadaq, in addition to the Invuity retractors, the Invuity was bought by our instruments business, but we moved it over to endoscopy because it's absolutely perfect for those procedures, breast reconstruction procedures. So a combination of acquired products and obviously our internal products within endoscopy created enough of a basket to have a dedicated sales force. It was really successful in year one. And yes, we look to continue to expand within breast care. We could potentially do additional acquisitions to fill out the bag, continue to add more specialized salespeople. But this is what we do at Stryker.
Kevin Lobo: Yeah. Thanks. First of all, the breast care sales force is within our endoscopy business. So we were already calling on them, but we didn't have a focus. And the acquisition of MOLLI, the marker, in addition to Novadaq, the exoscope, in addition to the tissue from Novadaq, in addition to the Invuity retractors, the Invuity was bought by our instruments business, but we moved it over to endoscopy because it's absolutely perfect for those procedures, breast reconstruction procedures. So a combination of acquired products and obviously our internal products within endoscopy created enough of a basket to have a dedicated sales force. It was really successful in year one. And yes, we look to continue to expand within breast care. We could potentially do additional acquisitions to fill out the bag, continue to add more specialized salespeople. But this is what we do at Stryker.
Speaker #3: First of all, the breast care Salesforce is within our Endoscopy business. So we were already calling on them, but we didn't have a focus—and the acquisition of MOLLI, the marker, in addition to Novadaq, the exoscope, in addition to the tissue from Novadaq, in addition to the Invuity retractors. The Invuity was bought by our Instruments business, but we moved it over to Endoscopy because it's absolutely perfect for those procedures, breast reconstruction procedures.
Speaker #3: So a combination of acquired products and, obviously, our internal products within Endoscopy created enough of a basket to have a dedicated Salesforce. It was really successful in year one.
Speaker #3: And yes, we look to continue to expand within breast care. We could potentially do additional acquisitions. To fill out the bag, continue to add more specialized salespeople.
Speaker #3: But this is what we do at Stryker. We did this in GI. If you recall, when we launched Neptune S, we created a GI Salesforce and we did the acquisition of the Palm—the mask, procedural-specific mask—as well to add into that Salesforce.
Jason Beach: We did this in GI. If you recall, when we launched NEF2NX, we created a GI sales force. We did the acquisition of the POM, the mask, procedural specific mask as well to add into that sales force. We do this all the time in our MedSurg businesses. It's part of the fuel for growth. And that's why we stay so high in our growth rates is we just don't sit still. We either bring in these tuck-in acquisitions, cobble them together, create a specialized sales force. And then at some point, if we do a big enough deal, we could create a separate business unit as we've done with SmartCare and as we've done with other business units in the past.
We did this in GI. If you recall, when we launched NEF2NX, we created a GI sales force. We did the acquisition of the POM, the mask, procedural specific mask as well to add into that sales force. We do this all the time in our MedSurg businesses. It's part of the fuel for growth. And that's why we stay so high in our growth rates is we just don't sit still. We either bring in these tuck-in acquisitions, cobble them together, create a specialized sales force. And then at some point, if we do a big enough deal, we could create a separate business unit as we've done with SmartCare and as we've done with other business units in the past.
Speaker #3: We do this all the time in our Med Surg businesses. It's part of the fuel for growth, and that's why we stay so high in our growth rates—we just don't sit still.
Speaker #3: We either bring in these tuck-in acquisitions, cobble them together, and create a specialized Salesforce. And then at some point, if we do a big enough deal, we could create a separate business unit, as we've done with SmartCare and as we've done with other business units in the past.
Speaker #17: Thanks, and I appreciate that. And maybe, Preston, on the free cash flow—really great growth this year. I hear you on the conversion range, but can you just maybe talk about what you're expecting for CapEx?
[Analyst] (Canaccord Genuity): Thanks. Appreciate that. Maybe Preston on the free cash flow, really great growth this year. I hear you on the conversion range, but can you just maybe talk about what you're expecting for CapEx? It was flat year-over-year.
Drew Ranieri: Thanks. Appreciate that. Maybe Preston on the free cash flow, really great growth this year. I hear you on the conversion range, but can you just maybe talk about what you're expecting for CapEx? It was flat year-over-year.
Speaker #17: It was flat year-over-year.
Speaker #4: Expecting at 26?
[Analyst] (Bank of America): Expecting in 2026?
Preston Wells: Expecting in 2026?
Speaker #17: Like, hold back on spending? Yeah, for 2026, what are you expecting more for free cash flow?
[Analyst] (Canaccord Genuity): Like holdback on spending? Yeah. For 2026, what you're expecting more for free cash flow and CapEx?
Drew Ranieri: Like holdback on spending? Yeah. For 2026, what you're expecting more for free cash flow and CapEx?
Speaker #17: and CapEx? Yeah, so
Speaker #4: From a free cash flow standpoint, as I said before, we're still going to target in that same range of $70 to $80. That's been the range that we've been targeting for the last few years.
[Analyst] (Bank of America): Yeah. So from a free cash flow standpoint, I said before, I mean, we're still going to target in that same range of 70 to 80. That's been the range that we've been targeting for the last few years. We feel like that's a good place for us where we can balance investment with also obviously being more productive from a cash perspective. When it comes to capital, I mean, really, our capital focus is around how do we support growth? So whether that's investments we're making in our plants or obviously investments we're making in our IT systems for structure as well in terms of how we're running our businesses. So there's really no change in our overall approach that we're thinking about from a cash flow standpoint.
Preston Wells: Yeah. So from a free cash flow standpoint, I said before, I mean, we're still going to target in that same range of 70 to 80. That's been the range that we've been targeting for the last few years. We feel like that's a good place for us where we can balance investment with also obviously being more productive from a cash perspective. When it comes to capital, I mean, really, our capital focus is around how do we support growth? So whether that's investments we're making in our plants or obviously investments we're making in our IT systems for structure as well in terms of how we're running our businesses. So there's really no change in our overall approach that we're thinking about from a cash flow standpoint.
Speaker #4: And we feel like that's a good place for us, where we can balance investment with also, obviously, being more productive from a cash perspective.
Speaker #4: When it comes to capital, I mean, really, our capital focus is around how do we support growth. So whether that's investments we're making in our plants, or obviously investments we're making in our IT systems for structure as well in terms of how we're running our businesses.
Speaker #4: So there's really no change in our overall approach that we're thinking about from a cash flow standpoint. We are looking at how we improve areas like working capital, which gives us even more flexibility from a cash standpoint as we move forward.
[Analyst] (Bank of America): We are looking at how do we improve areas like working capital, which gives us even more flexibility from a cash standpoint as we move forward.
We are looking at how do we improve areas like working capital, which gives us even more flexibility from a cash standpoint as we move forward.
Speaker #4: Forward. Your next question will come
Operator: Your next question will come from Jason Bedford with Raymond James.
Operator: Your next question will come from Jason Bedford with Raymond James.
Speaker #2: From Jason Bedford with Raymond James. Jason, your line is open. Please feel free to proceed. Well, we have no further questions after Jason, so I'll now hand the call over to Kevin Lobo for closing remarks.
[Analyst] (Bank of America): Jason?
Kevin Lobo: Jason?
Operator: Jason, your line is open. Please feel free to proceed. Well, we have no further questions after Jason, so I'll now hand the call over to Kevin Lobo for closing remarks.
Operator: Jason, your line is open. Please feel free to proceed. Well, we have no further questions after Jason, so I'll now hand the call over to Kevin Lobo for closing remarks.
Speaker #3: So, thank you all for joining our call. As you can see, we have strong momentum entering 2026, and we look forward to sharing our first-quarter results with you in April.
[Analyst] (Bank of America): So thank you all for joining our call. As you can see, we have strong momentum entering 2026, and we look forward to sharing our Q1 results with you in April. Thank you.
Kevin Lobo: So thank you all for joining our call. As you can see, we have strong momentum entering 2026, and we look forward to sharing our Q1 results with you in April. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Thank
Speaker #3: you. This concludes the fourth
Operator: This concludes the Q4 and full year 2025 Stryker earnings call. You may now disconnect.
Operator: This concludes the Q4 and full year 2025 Stryker earnings call. You may now disconnect.