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Q1 2026 Bellring Brands Inc Earnings Call
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Jennifer Meyer: Good morning, and thank you for joining us today for BellRing Brands' Q1 fiscal 2026 earnings call. With me today are Darcy Davenport, our President and CEO, and Paul Rode, our CFO. Darcy and Paul will begin with prepared remarks, and afterwards, we'll have a brief question-and-answer session. The press release and supplemental slide presentation that support these remarks are posted on our website in both the Investor Relations, and the SEC Filings sections at bellring.com. In addition, the release and slides are available on the SEC's website. Before we continue, I would like to remind you that this call will contain forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties that should be carefully considered by investors, as actual results could differ materially from these statements. These forward-looking statements are current as of the date of this call, and management undertakes no obligation to update these statements.
Jennifer Meyer: Good morning, and thank you for joining us today for BellRing Brands' Q1 fiscal 2026 earnings call. With me today are Darcy Davenport, our President and CEO, and Paul Rode, our CFO. Darcy and Paul will begin with prepared remarks, and afterwards, we'll have a brief question-and-answer session. The press release and supplemental slide presentation that support these remarks are posted on our website in both the Investor Relations, and the SEC Filings sections at bellring.com. In addition, the release and slides are available on the SEC's website. Before we continue, I would like to remind you that this call will contain forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties that should be carefully considered by investors, as actual results could differ materially from these statements. These forward-looking statements are current as of the date of this call, and management undertakes no obligation to update these statements.
Speaker #2: Good morning, and thank you for joining us today for BELLRING BRANDS, first quarter fiscal 2026 earnings call. With me today are Darcy Davenport, our President and CEO, Paul Rode, our CFO.
Speaker #2: Darcy and Paul will begin with a clear remark, and afterwards, we'll have a brief question-and-answer session. The press release and supplemental slide presentation that support these remarks are posted on our website, and both the Investor Relations and the SEC filing sections at bellring.com.
Speaker #2: In addition, the release and slides are available on the SEC's website. Before we continue, I would like to remind you that this call will contain forward-looking statements which are subject to risks and uncertainties that should be carefully considered by investors as actual results could differ materially from these statements.
Speaker #2: These forward-looking statements are current as of the date of this call and management undertakes no obligation to update these statements. As a reminder, this call is being recorded, and an audio replay will be available on our website.
Jennifer Meyer: As a reminder, this call is being recorded and an audio replay will be available on our website. Finally, this call will discuss certain non-GAAP measures. For reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the nearest GAAP measure, see our press release issued today and posted on our website. With that, I will turn the call over to Darcy.
As a reminder, this call is being recorded and an audio replay will be available on our website. Finally, this call will discuss certain non-GAAP measures. For reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the nearest GAAP measure, see our press release issued today and posted on our website. With that, I will turn the call over to Darcy.
Speaker #2: And finally, this call will discuss certain non-GAAP measures. For reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the nearest GAAP measure, see our press release issued today and posted on our website.
Speaker #2: With that, I will turn the call over to Darcy.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Jennifer, and thank you all for joining us this morning. The first quarter delivered a solid foundation for the year, as we continue to execute our plans.
Darcy Davenport: Thanks, Jennifer, and thank you all for joining us this morning. Q1 delivered a solid foundation for the year as we continue to execute our plans. Results were ahead of our expectations with favorability, primarily driven by the timing of customer orders. The RTD shake category remains healthy, and Premier continues to hold a leadership position with 22% market share and best-in-class household penetration, brand equity scores, and repeat rates. Today, we have narrowed our range of our 2026 net sales guidance to between 4% and 6% growth. While much of our key selling periods remain ahead, we have observed more frequent promotional events from insurgent brands than expected. As a result, we have appropriately factored this into Premier's consumption trends in our balance of year outlook.
Darcy Davenport: Thanks, Jennifer, and thank you all for joining us this morning. Q1 delivered a solid foundation for the year as we continue to execute our plans. Results were ahead of our expectations with favorability, primarily driven by the timing of customer orders. The RTD shake category remains healthy, and Premier continues to hold a leadership position with 22% market share and best-in-class household penetration, brand equity scores, and repeat rates. Today, we have narrowed our range of our 2026 net sales guidance to between 4% and 6% growth. While much of our key selling periods remain ahead, we have observed more frequent promotional events from insurgent brands than expected. As a result, we have appropriately factored this into Premier's consumption trends in our balance of year outlook.
Speaker #3: Results were ahead of our expectations, with favorability primarily driven by the timing of customer orders. The RTD shake category remains healthy, and Premier continues to hold a leadership position with a 22% market share and best-in-class household penetration, brand equity scores, and repeat rates.
Speaker #3: Today, we have narrowed our range of our '26 net sales guidance to between 4% and 6% growth. While much of our key selling periods remain ahead, we have observed more frequent promotional events from insurgent brands than expected.
Speaker #3: As a result, we have appropriately factored this into Premier’s consumption trends in our balance-of-year outlook. We are continuing to execute on our strategies of growing distribution, increasing brand investments, and launching innovation, which are progressing as planned.
Darcy Davenport: We are continuing to execute on our strategies of growing distribution, increasing brand investments, and launching innovation, which are progressing as planned. Many of these initiatives are ramping up and are starting to positively impact consumption. We were encouraged by the growth in consumption during January, up 6% in all channels and 16% excluding club. We expect Q2 Premier consumption to be generally in line with net sales and expect these growth strategies to be more meaningful contributors to growth in the second half of the year. As Paul will discuss in more detail, we have updated adjusted EBITDA guidance to $425 to 440 million. This range incorporates our updated sales outlook and the impact of higher whey costs on our powder business. Turning to our category.
We are continuing to execute on our strategies of growing distribution, increasing brand investments, and launching innovation, which are progressing as planned. Many of these initiatives are ramping up and are starting to positively impact consumption. We were encouraged by the growth in consumption during January, up 6% in all channels and 16% excluding club. We expect Q2 Premier consumption to be generally in line with net sales and expect these growth strategies to be more meaningful contributors to growth in the second half of the year. As Paul will discuss in more detail, we have updated adjusted EBITDA guidance to $425 to 440 million. This range incorporates our updated sales outlook and the impact of higher whey costs on our powder business. Turning to our category.
Speaker #3: Many of these initiatives are ramping up and are starting to positively impact consumption. We were encouraged by the growth in consumption during January, up 6% in all channels.
Speaker #3: And 16%, excluding club. We expect Q2 Premier consumption to be generally in line with net sales, and expect these growth strategies to be more meaningful contributors to growth in the second half of the year.
Speaker #3: As Paul will discuss in more detail, we have updated adjusted EBITDA guidance to $425 to $440 million. This range incorporates our updated sales outlook and the impact of higher whey costs on our powder business.
Speaker #3: Turning to our category, we continue to expect RTD shake category growth in the high single digits for '26. Primarily driven by volume. In the medium to long term, we expect more marketing spend expanded shelf space, innovation, and the mainstreaming and affordability of GLP-1s to drive higher household penetration in category growth.
Darcy Davenport: We continue to expect RTD shake category growth in the high single digits for 2026, primarily driven by volume. In the medium to long term, we expect more marketing spend, expanded shelf space, innovation, and the mainstreaming and affordability of GLP-1s to drive higher household penetration and category growth. Retailers are fully behind the category and are increasing category space, testing higher traffic aisle locations, and expanding display space to capture growing consumer demand. As I discussed on our last call, the success of the category has attracted competition. As insurgent brands work to establish themselves in the market, we expected promotional spending would increase. However, as I briefly mentioned earlier, year to date, the number of events is tracking modestly ahead of our initial expectations.
We continue to expect RTD shake category growth in the high single digits for 2026, primarily driven by volume. In the medium to long term, we expect more marketing spend, expanded shelf space, innovation, and the mainstreaming and affordability of GLP-1s to drive higher household penetration and category growth. Retailers are fully behind the category and are increasing category space, testing higher traffic aisle locations, and expanding display space to capture growing consumer demand. As I discussed on our last call, the success of the category has attracted competition. As insurgent brands work to establish themselves in the market, we expected promotional spending would increase. However, as I briefly mentioned earlier, year to date, the number of events is tracking modestly ahead of our initial expectations.
Speaker #3: Retailers are fully behind the category and are increasing category space, testing higher-traffic aisle locations, and expanding display space to capture growing consumer demand.
Speaker #3: As I discussed on our last call, the success of the category has attracted competition. As insurgent brands work to establish themselves in the market, we expected promotional spending would increase.
Speaker #3: However, as I briefly mentioned earlier, year to date, the number of events is tracking modestly ahead of our initial expectations. Over the longer term, we continue to expect retailers to consolidate the shelf behind a handful of the best-performing brands and move them to more heavily trafficked aisles.
Darcy Davenport: Over the longer term, we continue to expect retailers to consolidate the shelf behind a handful of the best performing brands and move them to more heavily trafficked aisles. We remain confident in our ability to continue leading the category, though we anticipate some near-term transitional impacts on these competitive dynamics until these competitive dynamics play out. We believe that mainstream appeal, high repeat rates, and execution capabilities will determine the long-term winners. Turning to our Q1 performance. I'd like to highlight that our supplemental presentation and corresponding metrics now reflect a change in category definition from convenient nutrition to wellness, with the US category size increasing to $24 billion from $21 billion. The broader definition includes the same brands and products as our historical category, along with additional products that our research shows consumers consider in the category.
Over the longer term, we continue to expect retailers to consolidate the shelf behind a handful of the best performing brands and move them to more heavily trafficked aisles. We remain confident in our ability to continue leading the category, though we anticipate some near-term transitional impacts on these competitive dynamics until these competitive dynamics play out. We believe that mainstream appeal, high repeat rates, and execution capabilities will determine the long-term winners. Turning to our Q1 performance. I'd like to highlight that our supplemental presentation and corresponding metrics now reflect a change in category definition from convenient nutrition to wellness, with the US category size increasing to $24 billion from $21 billion. The broader definition includes the same brands and products as our historical category, along with additional products that our research shows consumers consider in the category.
Speaker #3: We remain confident in our ability to continue leading the category, though we anticipate some near-term transitional impacts on these competitive dynamics until these competitive dynamics play out.
Speaker #3: We believe that mainstream appeal, high repeat rates, and execution capabilities will determine the long-term winners. Turning to our first quarter performance, I'd like to highlight that our supplemental presentation and corresponding metrics now reflect a change in category definition from convenient nutrition to wellness.
Speaker #3: With the U.S. category size increasing to 24 billion from 21 billion. The broader definition includes the same brands and products as our historical category, along with additional products that are research shows consumers consider in the category.
Speaker #3: This change does not impact any of our previously reported tracked consumption or household penetration metrics. The wellness category grew 7% in Q1, and RTD shakes were also up 7%, with growth driven by volume.
Darcy Davenport: This change does not impact any of our previously reported tracked consumption or household penetration metrics. The wellness category grew 7% in Q1, and RTD shakes also up 7%, with growth driven by volume. Premier RTD shake consumption was down 2% in the quarter, lapping 23% consumption growth in the first quarter of 2025, which included very strong club consumption, with the smallest number of new brand entrants in a non-recurring promotion. Consumption outside of club was strong, up 11% in the quarter. Premier Q1 consumption growth came in slightly below our prior outlook of flat, primarily due to the timing, delays in activating promotional display at a mass retailer, as well as a modest impact from greater than expected promotional activity by insurgent brands.
This change does not impact any of our previously reported tracked consumption or household penetration metrics. The wellness category grew 7% in Q1, and RTD shakes also up 7%, with growth driven by volume. Premier RTD shake consumption was down 2% in the quarter, lapping 23% consumption growth in the first quarter of 2025, which included very strong club consumption, with the smallest number of new brand entrants in a non-recurring promotion. Consumption outside of club was strong, up 11% in the quarter. Premier Q1 consumption growth came in slightly below our prior outlook of flat, primarily due to the timing, delays in activating promotional display at a mass retailer, as well as a modest impact from greater than expected promotional activity by insurgent brands.
Speaker #3: Premier RTD shake consumption was down 2% in the quarter, lapping 23% consumption growth in the first quarter of ’25, which included very strong club consumption, with the smallest number of new brand entrants in a non-recurring promotion.
Speaker #3: Consumption outside of club was strong, up 11% in the quarter. Premier Q1 consumption growth came in slightly below our prior outlook of flat. Primarily due to the timing delays in activating promotional display at a mass retailer, as well as a modest impact from greater-than-expected promotional activity by insurgent brands.
Speaker #3: First quarter net sales increased 1%, with Premier net sales down 1% and dimatized net sales up 16% on strong international growth. Paul will go into more detail in the quarter later.
Darcy Davenport: Q1 net sales increased 1%, with Premier net sales down 1% and Dymatize net sales up 16% on strong international growth. Paul will go into more detail in the quarter later. Now I'll provide a review of our operating plans, which will continue to provide momentum as we progress through the year. We are on track with our plans to, one, continue growing our distribution both in and out of the aisle. Two, increase advertising investment while elevating its impact. And three, launch innovation that provides consumer excitement, adds occasion, and drives trial. Distribution, both in and out of the aisle, is a major opportunity. Starting with club, we launched new products and formats, as well as increasing sampling and promotional spending, which is expected to improve our performance in this channel as we move through the year.
Q1 net sales increased 1%, with Premier net sales down 1% and Dymatize net sales up 16% on strong international growth. Paul will go into more detail in the quarter later. Now I'll provide a review of our operating plans, which will continue to provide momentum as we progress through the year. We are on track with our plans to, one, continue growing our distribution both in and out of the aisle. Two, increase advertising investment while elevating its impact. And three, launch innovation that provides consumer excitement, adds occasion, and drives trial. Distribution, both in and out of the aisle, is a major opportunity. Starting with club, we launched new products and formats, as well as increasing sampling and promotional spending, which is expected to improve our performance in this channel as we move through the year.
Speaker #3: Now I'll provide a review of our operating plans, which will continue to provide momentum as we progress through the year. We are on track with our plans to, one, continue growing our distribution both in and out of the aisle, two, increase advertising investment while elevating its impact, and three, launch innovation that provides consumer excitement, adds occasion, and drives trial.
Speaker #3: Distribution, both in and out of the aisle, is a major opportunity. Starting with club, we launched new products and formats as well as increasing sampling and promotional spending, which is expected to improve our performance in this channel as we move through the year.
Speaker #3: Our Premier shake TDPs increased at strong double-digit rates in fiscal '25, primarily driven by mass, food, drug, and e-commerce channels. And we remain on track to expand at similar levels in '26.
Darcy Davenport: Our Premier Shake TDPs increased at strong double-digit rates in fiscal 2025, primarily driven by mass, food, drug, and e-commerce channels, and we remain on track to expand at similar levels in 2026. We're encouraged by the early performance with our new broker and internal retail sales team. In particular, our sales of single bottles have more than doubled in January, effectively increasing trial. Our improved store activations are already meaningfully impacting our FDM channel results, with strong share increases in feature and display. In late Q1, we launched a partnership with a major mass retailer, which included extensive displays and end caps across pharmacy and grocery aisles, and the first launch of our Coffeehouse shake innovation. Due to the timing of the retailer's holiday merchandise transition, program execution was modestly delayed.
Our Premier Shake TDPs increased at strong double-digit rates in fiscal 2025, primarily driven by mass, food, drug, and e-commerce channels, and we remain on track to expand at similar levels in 2026. We're encouraged by the early performance with our new broker and internal retail sales team. In particular, our sales of single bottles have more than doubled in January, effectively increasing trial. Our improved store activations are already meaningfully impacting our FDM channel results, with strong share increases in feature and display. In late Q1, we launched a partnership with a major mass retailer, which included extensive displays and end caps across pharmacy and grocery aisles, and the first launch of our Coffeehouse shake innovation. Due to the timing of the retailer's holiday merchandise transition, program execution was modestly delayed.
Speaker #3: We're encouraged by the early performance with our new broker and internal retail sales team. In particular, our sales of single bottles have more than doubled in January, effectively increasing trial.
Speaker #3: Our improved store activations are already meaningfully impacting our FDM channel results, with strong share increases in feature and display. In late Q1, we launched a partnership with a major mass retailer, which included extensive displays and end caps across pharmacy and grocery aisles in the first launch of our coffee house shake innovation.
Speaker #3: Due to the timing of the retailer's holiday merchandise transition, program execution was modestly delayed. Our programming is now fully in place, and we are seeing strong double-digit consumption growth as traction builds.
Darcy Davenport: Our programming is now fully in place, and we are seeing strong double-digit consumption growth as traction builds. We're also encouraged by the early performance of Coffeehouse, where Caramel Macchiato is one of the highest velocity 4 counts in January. Our second priority is advertising. We saw a strong return on investment in fiscal 2025 and have decided to further invest and elevate our creative in 2026. Our Go Get 'Em campaign was launched in late December and is designed to drive household penetration, strengthen emotional connections, and bring fresh energy and relevance to the Premier brand. Premier Protein has always been a brand that celebrates the everyday go-getters, not just those who work hard in the gym, but those who work seriously hard in life. As the original mainstream RTD brand, this campaign is perfectly positioned to bring in new households as the category continues to mainstream.
Our programming is now fully in place, and we are seeing strong double-digit consumption growth as traction builds. We're also encouraged by the early performance of Coffeehouse, where Caramel Macchiato is one of the highest velocity 4 counts in January. Our second priority is advertising. We saw a strong return on investment in fiscal 2025 and have decided to further invest and elevate our creative in 2026. Our Go Get 'Em campaign was launched in late December and is designed to drive household penetration, strengthen emotional connections, and bring fresh energy and relevance to the Premier brand. Premier Protein has always been a brand that celebrates the everyday go-getters, not just those who work hard in the gym, but those who work seriously hard in life. As the original mainstream RTD brand, this campaign is perfectly positioned to bring in new households as the category continues to mainstream.
Speaker #3: We're also encouraged by the early performance of Coffee House, where caramel macchiato is one of the highest-velocity four counts in January. Our second priority is advertising.
Speaker #3: We saw a strong return on investment in fiscal '25 and have decided to further invest to elevate our creative in '26. Our Go Get 'Em campaign was launched in late December and is designed to drive household penetration strength and emotional connections, and bring fresh energy and relevance to the Premier brand.
Speaker #3: Premier Protein has always been a brand that celebrates the everyday go-getters—not just those who work hard in the gym, but those who work seriously hard in life.
Speaker #3: As the original mainstream RTD brand, this campaign is perfectly positioned to bring in new households as the category continues to mainstream. This omnichannel campaign was developed with a new agency and runs across linear TV, streaming, podcasts, and social, as well as retail media and out-of-home locations, including gyms.
Darcy Davenport: This omni-channel campaign was developed with a new agency and runs across linear TV, streaming, podcasts, and social, as well as retail media and out-of-home locations, including gyms. Go Get 'Em has tested better than any other prior campaign, and we expect it to drive further awareness and conversion as we move through the year. Turning to innovation. In 2026, we are intensifying our focus on innovation across flavors, formats, consumer segments, and occasions. To expand shake occasions, last year, we kicked off the year with our Indulgence line, and this year, our New Year, New You focus is on our new Coffeehouse line. Coffeehouse meets the protein and energy consumer need with 30 grams of protein and the caffeine equivalent of one cup of coffee and targets a sweeter taste palette versus our core cafe latte shake.
This omni-channel campaign was developed with a new agency and runs across linear TV, streaming, podcasts, and social, as well as retail media and out-of-home locations, including gyms. Go Get 'Em has tested better than any other prior campaign, and we expect it to drive further awareness and conversion as we move through the year. Turning to innovation. In 2026, we are intensifying our focus on innovation across flavors, formats, consumer segments, and occasions. To expand shake occasions, last year, we kicked off the year with our Indulgence line, and this year, our New Year, New You focus is on our new Coffeehouse line. Coffeehouse meets the protein and energy consumer need with 30 grams of protein and the caffeine equivalent of one cup of coffee and targets a sweeter taste palette versus our core cafe latte shake.
Speaker #3: Go Get 'Em has tested better than any other prior campaign, and we expect it to drive further awareness and conversion as we move through the year.
Speaker #3: Turning to innovation, in '26, we are intensifying our focus on innovation across flavors, formats, consumer segments, and occasions. To expand shake occasions, last year we kicked off the year with our indulgence line.
Speaker #3: In this year, our New Year, New You focus is on our new Coffee House line. Coffee House meets the protein and energy consumer need with 30 grams of protein and the caffeine equivalent of one cup of coffee, and targets a sweeter taste palette versus our core Café Latte shake.
Speaker #3: Early results are promising, and we're excited about the adding a coffee house variety pack in bottles as an incremental item at a club retailer later this month.
Darcy Davenport: Early, early results are promising, and we're excited about adding a Coffeehouse variety pack in bottles as an incremental item at a club retailer later this month. Premier is known for its flavor innovation. We will continue to bring flavor excitement to the category throughout the year. Our LTO strategy remains highly successful, with Winter Mint Chocolate performing at the top tertile. In January, we launched strawberry powder, and in our Q3, we will offer an exciting new seasonal shake flavor. Lastly, I'm pleased to announce that we have two new shake lines. Two new lines, we are readying for launch in the second half. The first line is a continuation of our strategy to expand our portfolio across protein levels.
Early, early results are promising, and we're excited about adding a Coffeehouse variety pack in bottles as an incremental item at a club retailer later this month. Premier is known for its flavor innovation. We will continue to bring flavor excitement to the category throughout the year. Our LTO strategy remains highly successful, with Winter Mint Chocolate performing at the top tertile. In January, we launched strawberry powder, and in our Q3, we will offer an exciting new seasonal shake flavor. Lastly, I'm pleased to announce that we have two new shake lines. Two new lines, we are readying for launch in the second half. The first line is a continuation of our strategy to expand our portfolio across protein levels.
Speaker #3: Premier is known for its flavor innovation, and we will continue to bring flavor excitement to the category throughout the year. Our LTO strategy remains highly successful, with Winter Mint Chocolate performing at the top tertile.
Speaker #3: In January, we launched strawberry powder, and in our third quarter, we will offer an exciting new seasonal shake flavor. Lastly, I'm pleased to announce that we have two new shake lines.
Speaker #3: We have two new lines we are readying for launch in the second half. The first line is a continuation of our strategy to expand our portfolio across protein levels.
Speaker #3: In addition to minis, which provide a smaller-sized product with lower protein levels that are perfect for snacking, we will launch a product with higher protein for those consumers looking for more protein in their ready-to-drink shake.
Darcy Davenport: In addition to minis, which provides a smaller-sized product with lower protein levels that are perfect for snacking, we will launch a product with higher protein for those consumers looking for more protein in their ready-to-drink shake. I'm especially excited about our second line, launching late in the year. It offers consumers a completely different drinking experience versus our core products. It tested well above industry benchmarks and targets both incremental consumers and incremental occasions. In closing, Q1 was a solid foundation for the year and consumption is ramping up. We have conviction around the category, the strength of our brands, and our demand drivers. Premier remains the number one brand with record-high household penetration and repeat rates. We have deep expertise in one of the fastest-growing categories in retail and continue to expect strong category growth.
In addition to minis, which provides a smaller-sized product with lower protein levels that are perfect for snacking, we will launch a product with higher protein for those consumers looking for more protein in their ready-to-drink shake. I'm especially excited about our second line, launching late in the year. It offers consumers a completely different drinking experience versus our core products. It tested well above industry benchmarks and targets both incremental consumers and incremental occasions. In closing, Q1 was a solid foundation for the year and consumption is ramping up. We have conviction around the category, the strength of our brands, and our demand drivers. Premier remains the number one brand with record-high household penetration and repeat rates. We have deep expertise in one of the fastest-growing categories in retail and continue to expect strong category growth.
Speaker #3: I'm especially excited about our second line, launching late in the year. It offers consumers a completely different drinking experience versus our core products. It tested well above industry benchmarks and targets both incremental consumers and incremental occasions.
Speaker #3: In closing, the first quarter was a solid foundation for the year, and consumption is ramping up. We have conviction around the category, the strength of our brands, and our demand drivers.
Speaker #3: Premier remains the number one brand, with record-high household penetration and repeat rates. We have deep expertise in one of the fastest-growing categories in retail, and continue to expect strong category growth.
Speaker #3: We are investing in our brands, sharpening our execution and innovation plans, and driving savings our savings agenda to deliver our '26 outlook. Our operating plans are on track, and we continue to expect an acceleration in growth in the balance of the year.
Darcy Davenport: We are investing in our brands, sharpening our execution and innovation plans, and driving savings, our savings agenda to deliver our 2026 outlook. Our operating plans are on track, and we continue to expect an acceleration in growth in the balance of the year. I remain highly confident in our future and our ability to create sustained long-term value for shareholders. Before turning the call over to Paul, I want to discuss the leadership transition plan we announced this morning. As you saw from this announcement, I've decided to retire from my role as President and Chief Executive Officer later this year. The transition will take place on or before the end of our fiscal year on September 30, 2026. The BellRing Board of Directors has started a national external search to identify the company's next CEO.
We are investing in our brands, sharpening our execution and innovation plans, and driving savings, our savings agenda to deliver our 2026 outlook. Our operating plans are on track, and we continue to expect an acceleration in growth in the balance of the year. I remain highly confident in our future and our ability to create sustained long-term value for shareholders. Before turning the call over to Paul, I want to discuss the leadership transition plan we announced this morning. As you saw from this announcement, I've decided to retire from my role as President and Chief Executive Officer later this year. The transition will take place on or before the end of our fiscal year on September 30, 2026. The BellRing Board of Directors has started a national external search to identify the company's next CEO.
Speaker #3: I remain highly confident in our future and our ability to create sustained, long-term value for shareholders. Before turning the call over to Paul, I want to discuss the leadership transition plan we announced this morning.
Speaker #3: As you saw from this announcement, I have decided to retire from my role as president and chief executive officer later this year. The transition will take place on or before the end of our fiscal year on September 30, 2026.
Speaker #3: The BellRing Board of Directors has started a national external search to identify the company's next CEO. I remain fully committed to helping BellRing Brands achieve its full potential.
Darcy Davenport: I remain fully committed to helping BellRing Brands achieve its full potential. Following the appointment of our new CEO, I will serve in an advisory role to ensure a smooth transition of leadership, responsibilities, and to provide strategic support to the company. I'm incredibly proud of all that we have achieved during my time with the company and the roadmap we have established in the future. It has been an unbelievable ride. 17 years ago, I joined a privately held company with approximately $20 million in sales. Today, we are a publicly traded, global $2.3 billion business with significant runway still ahead of us. While the growth is remarkable, what I'm most proud of is the culture we have built along the way.
I remain fully committed to helping BellRing Brands achieve its full potential. Following the appointment of our new CEO, I will serve in an advisory role to ensure a smooth transition of leadership, responsibilities, and to provide strategic support to the company. I'm incredibly proud of all that we have achieved during my time with the company and the roadmap we have established in the future. It has been an unbelievable ride. 17 years ago, I joined a privately held company with approximately $20 million in sales. Today, we are a publicly traded, global $2.3 billion business with significant runway still ahead of us. While the growth is remarkable, what I'm most proud of is the culture we have built along the way.
Speaker #3: Following the appointment of our new CEO, I will serve in an advisory role to ensure a smooth transition of leadership and responsibilities, and to provide strategic support to the company.
Speaker #3: I'm incredibly proud of all that we have achieved during my time with the company and the roadmap we have established in the future. It has been an unbelievable ride.
Speaker #3: Seventeen years ago, I joined a privately held company with approximately $20 million in sales. Today, we are a publicly traded global $2.3 billion business with significant runway still ahead of us.
Speaker #3: While the growth is remarkable, what I'm most proud of is the culture we have built along the way. A special thank you to all of our employees who put their hearts and souls into our purpose every day: changing lives with good energy.
Darcy Davenport: A special thank you to all of our employees, who put their hearts and souls in our purpose every day, changing lives with good energy. The foundation of BellRing is strong, and I look forward to helping the board and the company's new CEO advance toward its next chapter of growth. Thank you for your interest in the company. I will now turn the call over to Paul.
A special thank you to all of our employees, who put their hearts and souls in our purpose every day, changing lives with good energy. The foundation of BellRing is strong, and I look forward to helping the board and the company's new CEO advance toward its next chapter of growth. Thank you for your interest in the company. I will now turn the call over to Paul.
Speaker #3: The foundation of BellRing is strong, and I look forward to helping the board and the company's new CEO advance toward its next chapter of growth.
Speaker #3: Thank you for your interest in the company. I will now turn the call over to
Speaker #3: Paul. Thanks, Dorothy, and good morning,
Paul Rode: Thanks, Darcy, and good morning, everyone. Total BellRing net sales for the quarter were $537 million, up 1% over a year. We delivered adjusted EBITDA of $90 million at a margin of 16.8%. First quarter net sales were ahead of our expectations of down 5%, driven by a timing benefit from customer orders that we previously expected in the second quarter, and some upside at Dymatize. Adjusted EBITDA was ahead of our guidance on higher sales and SG&A leverage. Premier Protein net sales were down 1%, with RTD shake net sales down 2%. Premier shake volumes were flat, with price mix and unfavorable 2%. Dymatize sales increased 16%, driven by strong volume performance, particularly in international.
Paul Rode: Thanks, Darcy, and good morning, everyone. Total BellRing net sales for the quarter were $537 million, up 1% over a year. We delivered adjusted EBITDA of $90 million at a margin of 16.8%. First quarter net sales were ahead of our expectations of down 5%, driven by a timing benefit from customer orders that we previously expected in the second quarter, and some upside at Dymatize. Adjusted EBITDA was ahead of our guidance on higher sales and SG&A leverage. Premier Protein net sales were down 1%, with RTD shake net sales down 2%. Premier shake volumes were flat, with price mix and unfavorable 2%. Dymatize sales increased 16%, driven by strong volume performance, particularly in international.
Speaker #1: Everyone, total BellRing net sales for the quarter were $537 million, up 1% over a year ago. We delivered adjusted EBITDA of $90 million at a margin of 16.8%.
Speaker #1: First quarter net sales were ahead of our expectations of down 5%, driven by a timing benefit from customer orders that we previously expected in the second quarter and some upside at Diamond Dice.
Speaker #1: Adjusted EBITDA was ahead of our guidance on higher sales and SG&A leverage. Premier Protein net sales were down 1%, with RTD shake net sales down 2%.
Speaker #1: Premier shake volumes were flat, with price/mix unfavorable by 2%. Diamond Dice sales increased 16%, driven by strong volume performance, particularly in international. As we noted on our last earnings call, Q1 is our toughest comparison of the year in the club channel, where we lapped a period with fewer new entrants and chose not to repeat promotions for Premier and Diamond Dice.
Paul Rode: As we noted on our last earnings call, Q1 is our toughest comparison of the year in the club channel, where we lapped a period with fewer new entrants and chose not to repeat promotions for Premier and Dymatize. Gross profit was $161 million, with gross profit margin of 29.9%. Excluding mark-to-market adjustments on commodity hedges, adjusted gross margin declined 730 basis points. The decline was expected and driven by mid-single-digit input cost inflation, unfavorable mix, and lapping of $5 million of non-recurring cost favorability in the prior year. We expect whey protein inflation for the remainder of the year, while headwinds on our RTD shake milk proteins will moderate in the second half. Tariffs had an unfavorable impact of 75 basis points on our gross margins in the quarter.
As we noted on our last earnings call, Q1 is our toughest comparison of the year in the club channel, where we lapped a period with fewer new entrants and chose not to repeat promotions for Premier and Dymatize. Gross profit was $161 million, with gross profit margin of 29.9%. Excluding mark-to-market adjustments on commodity hedges, adjusted gross margin declined 730 basis points. The decline was expected and driven by mid-single-digit input cost inflation, unfavorable mix, and lapping of $5 million of non-recurring cost favorability in the prior year. We expect whey protein inflation for the remainder of the year, while headwinds on our RTD shake milk proteins will moderate in the second half. Tariffs had an unfavorable impact of 75 basis points on our gross margins in the quarter.
Speaker #1: Gross profit was $161 million, with a gross profit margin of 29.9%. Excluding mark-to-market adjustments on commodity hedges, adjusted gross margin declined 730 basis points. The decline was expected and driven by mid-single-digit input cost inflation, unfavorable mix, and the lapping of $5 million of non-recurring cost favorability in the prior year.
Speaker #1: We expect whey protein inflation for the remainder of the year, while headwinds on our RTD shake milk proteins will moderate in the second half.
Speaker #1: Tariffs had an unfavorable impact of 75 basis points on our gross margins in the quarter. SG&A expenses were $78 million, at 14.5% of sales, versus 15% of sales in the prior year quarter.
Paul Rode: SG&A expenses were $78 million, at 14.5% of sales, versus 15% of sales in the prior year quarter. Before reviewing our outlook, I'd like to make a few comments on cash flow and liquidity. As expected, the first quarter was a modest use of cash, in line with our typical seasonality, and we ended the quarter at net leverage of 2.5 times. We continued to return cash to shareholders through share repurchases, with $97 million repurchased in the first quarter. Turning to our 2026 outlook, we now expect net sales of $2.41 to 2.46 billion, which represents 4% to 6% growth. Adjusted EBITDA is expected to be $425 to 440 million, with a margin of approximately 18%.
SG&A expenses were $78 million, at 14.5% of sales, versus 15% of sales in the prior year quarter. Before reviewing our outlook, I'd like to make a few comments on cash flow and liquidity. As expected, the first quarter was a modest use of cash, in line with our typical seasonality, and we ended the quarter at net leverage of 2.5 times. We continued to return cash to shareholders through share repurchases, with $97 million repurchased in the first quarter. Turning to our 2026 outlook, we now expect net sales of $2.41 to 2.46 billion, which represents 4% to 6% growth. Adjusted EBITDA is expected to be $425 to 440 million, with a margin of approximately 18%.
Speaker #1: Before reviewing our outlook, I'd like to make a few comments on cash flow and liquidity. As expected, the first quarter was a modest use of cash in line with our typical seasonality, and we ended the quarter at net leverage of 2.5 times.
Speaker #1: We continue to return cash to shareholders through share repurchases, with $97 million repurchased in the first quarter. Turning to our 2026 outlook, we now expect net sales of $2.41 to $2.46 billion, which represents 4% to 6% growth.
Speaker #1: Adjusted EBITDA is expected to be $425 to $440 million, with a margin of approximately 18%. Our guidance reflects our updated consumption outlook for Premier, and some upside from Diamond Dice.
Paul Rode: Our guidance reflects our updated consumption outlook for Premier and some upside from Dymatize. We now expect Premier Protein net sales to grow mid-single digits at the midpoint. In addition to healthy category tailwinds, distribution gains, including innovation and increased brand investment, are expected to lift sales growth starting in the second quarter, with a more meaningful impact in the second half of the year. Volume performance is expected to be partially offset by a low single-digit headwind from promotional investment. We now expect modest growth in sales for the rest of the portfolio. For Dymatize, we have executed additional pricing actions to offset meaningful whey protein inflation and have prudently modeled in elasticities, which we expect to impact the second half of the year.
Our guidance reflects our updated consumption outlook for Premier and some upside from Dymatize. We now expect Premier Protein net sales to grow mid-single digits at the midpoint. In addition to healthy category tailwinds, distribution gains, including innovation and increased brand investment, are expected to lift sales growth starting in the second quarter, with a more meaningful impact in the second half of the year. Volume performance is expected to be partially offset by a low single-digit headwind from promotional investment. We now expect modest growth in sales for the rest of the portfolio. For Dymatize, we have executed additional pricing actions to offset meaningful whey protein inflation and have prudently modeled in elasticities, which we expect to impact the second half of the year.
Speaker #1: We now expect Premier protein net sales to grow mid-single digits at the midpoint. In addition to healthy category tailwinds, distribution gains, including innovation and increased brand investment, are expected to lift sales growth starting in the second quarter with a more meaningful impact in the second half of the year.
Speaker #1: Volume performance is expected to be partially offset by a low single-digit headwind from promotional investment. We now expect modest growth in sales for the rest of the portfolio.
Speaker #1: For Diamond Dice, we have executed additional pricing actions to offset meaningful whey protein inflation and have prudently modeled in elasticities, which we expect to impact the second half of the year.
Speaker #1: Our updated adjusted EBITDA guidance of $425 to $440 million incorporates our sales outlook, which embeds a slight mix shift towards the lower-margin Diamond Dice business and a meaningful increase versus our prior outlook in whey cost, which is the primary input cost for our protein powders.
Paul Rode: Our updated adjusted EBITDA guidance of $425 to 440 million incorporates our sales outlook, which embeds a slight mix shift towards the lower-margin Dymatize business and a meaningful increase versus our prior outlook in whey cost, which is the primary input cost for our protein powders. Adjusted EBITDA margins are expected to decline 300 basis points, 300 basis points year-over-year at the midpoint, with lower adjusted gross margins the primary driver. The gross margin decline reflects significant input cost inflation, the introduction of tariff costs, and the increased trade promotional investment. Tariffs are expected to have an unfavorable impact of 80 basis points on our full-year gross margins. The remaining EBITDA margin impact is primarily due to increased advertising, which is partially offset by other SG&A leverage.
Our updated adjusted EBITDA guidance of $425 to 440 million incorporates our sales outlook, which embeds a slight mix shift towards the lower-margin Dymatize business and a meaningful increase versus our prior outlook in whey cost, which is the primary input cost for our protein powders. Adjusted EBITDA margins are expected to decline 300 basis points, 300 basis points year-over-year at the midpoint, with lower adjusted gross margins the primary driver. The gross margin decline reflects significant input cost inflation, the introduction of tariff costs, and the increased trade promotional investment. Tariffs are expected to have an unfavorable impact of 80 basis points on our full-year gross margins. The remaining EBITDA margin impact is primarily due to increased advertising, which is partially offset by other SG&A leverage.
Speaker #1: Adjusted EBITDA margins are expected to decline 300 basis points, 300 basis points year over year at the midpoint, with lower adjusted gross margins the primary driver.
Speaker #1: The gross margin decline reflects significant input cost inflation, the introduction of tariff costs, and the increased trade promotional investment. Tariffs are expected to have an unfavorable impact of 80 basis points on our full year gross margins.
Speaker #1: The remaining EBITDA margin impact is primarily due to increased advertising, which is partially offset by other SG&A leverage. We continue to expect advertising as a percentage of sales of approximately 4%, with the largest year-over-year dollar increases in Q2 and Q3.
Paul Rode: We continue to expect advertising as a percentage of sales of approximately 4%, with the largest year-over-year dollar increases in Q2 and Q3. For the second quarter, we expect net sales growth of 3% to 4%, with similar growth for both Premier and Dymatize. Consistent with the first quarter, second quarter EBITDA margins reflect significant commodity cost inflation and tariffs, as well as higher planned advertising investment. These factors, along with the timing shift of sales into the first quarter, now result in a second quarter adjusted EBITDA margin of approximately 13%. Our first half adjusted EBITDA margin is expected to be approximately 15%, largely in line with prior expectations, with significant sequential margin improvement expected in the second half. Specifically, in the second half, our sales growth and cost savings accelerate.
We continue to expect advertising as a percentage of sales of approximately 4%, with the largest year-over-year dollar increases in Q2 and Q3. For the second quarter, we expect net sales growth of 3% to 4%, with similar growth for both Premier and Dymatize. Consistent with the first quarter, second quarter EBITDA margins reflect significant commodity cost inflation and tariffs, as well as higher planned advertising investment. These factors, along with the timing shift of sales into the first quarter, now result in a second quarter adjusted EBITDA margin of approximately 13%. Our first half adjusted EBITDA margin is expected to be approximately 15%, largely in line with prior expectations, with significant sequential margin improvement expected in the second half. Specifically, in the second half, our sales growth and cost savings accelerate.
Speaker #1: For the second quarter, we expect net sales growth of 3 to 4%, with similar growth for both Premier and Diamond Dice. Consistent with the first quarter, second quarter EBITDA margins reflect significant commodity cost inflation and tariffs, as well as higher planned advertising investment.
Speaker #1: These factors, along with the timing shift of sales into the first quarter, now result in a second quarter adjusted EBITDA margin of approximately 13%.
Speaker #1: Our first-half adjusted EBITDA margin is expected to be approximately 15%, largely in line with prior expectations, with significant sequential margin improvement expected in the second half.
Speaker #1: Specifically, in the second half, our sales growth and cost savings accelerate, Diamond Dice becomes a smaller portion of our sales mix, and we expect significantly higher SG&A leverage.
Paul Rode: Dymatize becomes a smaller portion of our sales mix, and we expect significantly higher SG&A leverage. In closing, we are executing our operating initiatives as planned. We expect the investments we are making in our brands this year to bolster our long-term position. Our business is highly cash generative, and we have a solid balance sheet, which positions us well to fund growth initiatives while continuing to repurchase shares opportunistically. I will now turn it over to the operator for questions.
Dymatize becomes a smaller portion of our sales mix, and we expect significantly higher SG&A leverage. In closing, we are executing our operating initiatives as planned. We expect the investments we are making in our brands this year to bolster our long-term position. Our business is highly cash generative, and we have a solid balance sheet, which positions us well to fund growth initiatives while continuing to repurchase shares opportunistically. I will now turn it over to the operator for questions.
Speaker #1: In closing, we are executing our operating initiatives as planned and expect the investments we are making in our brands this year to bolster our long-term position.
Speaker #1: Our business is highly cash-generative, and we have a solid balance sheet, which positions us well to fund growth initiatives while continuing to repurchase shares opportunistically.
Speaker #1: I will now turn it over to the operator for questions. If you'd like to ask a question at this time, please press star, one, one on your telephone.
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Operator: If you'd like to ask a question at this time, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Andrew Lazar with Barclays.
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Speaker #1: Our first question comes from Andrew Lazar with Barclays.
Speaker #2: Great. Thanks very much. Good morning, everybody.
Andrew Lazar: Great. Thanks very much. Good morning, everybody.
Andrew Lazar: Great. Thanks very much. Good morning, everybody.
Speaker #3: Good morning.
Darcy Davenport: Good morning.
Darcy Davenport: Good morning.
Speaker #2: Hi. I guess, addressing a call, I guess my one question would be—the main hope for the mass merchandiser test you talked about is to sort of just further prove that Premier Protein and ready-to-drink shakes in general sort of belong outside the pharmacy section, deserve greater points of disruption in the store.
Andrew Lazar: I guess, Darcy and Paul, I guess my one question would be, the main hope for the mass merchandiser test you talked about is to sort of just further prove that, Premier Protein and ready-to-drink shakes in general, sort of belong, you know, outside the pharmacy section, deserve greater points of disruption in the store. In those, I guess, stores where the execution of this test is in full swing, maybe you could go into a little bit deeper. What sort of results are you seeing? And are they such that, I think, if I'm not mistaken, this was supposed to be sort of a three-month sort of test.
Andrew Lazar: I guess, Darcy and Paul, I guess my one question would be, the main hope for the mass merchandiser test you talked about is to sort of just further prove that, Premier Protein and ready-to-drink shakes in general, sort of belong, you know, outside the pharmacy section, deserve greater points of disruption in the store. In those, I guess, stores where the execution of this test is in full swing, maybe you could go into a little bit deeper. What sort of results are you seeing? And are they such that, I think, if I'm not mistaken, this was supposed to be sort of a three-month sort of test.
Speaker #2: In those, I guess, stores where the execution of this test is in full swing, maybe you could go into a little bit deeper. What sort of results are you seeing?
Speaker #2: And are they such that I think, if I'm not mistaken, this was supposed to be sort of a three-month sort of test. Is there a possibility that based on the results you see that this gets extended?
Andrew Lazar: Is there a possibility that, based on the results you see, that this gets extended or somehow changes the way Premier Protein is merchandised in either that store or others going forward, given you'll have some proof points for it?
Is there a possibility that, based on the results you see, that this gets extended or somehow changes the way Premier Protein is merchandised in either that store or others going forward, given you'll have some proof points for it?
Speaker #2: Or somehow changes the way Premier Protein is merchandised in either that store or others going forward, given you'll have some proof points for it?
Speaker #3: Thanks, Andrew. Yeah, the program is performing very well. So we absolutely internally view this as a success and something that we want to bring to others first of all, bring to that same retailer later in the year, but also bring to other food drug mass customers and show the impact that they can have on their category and on our business.
Darcy Davenport: Thanks, Andrew. Yeah, the program is performing very well. So we absolutely internally view this as a success and something that we want to bring to others. First of all, bring to that same retailer later in the year, but also bring to other food, drug, mass customers and show the impact that they can have on their category and on our business. We're seeing record weekly sales on the rollback items. January was our largest month ever at this retailer. I mean, just a shout-out to our team. They're doing an amazing job with execution. Specifically, and when I say our team, the broader team. We have an internal activation team that I talked about in prior calls, as well as a new broker, and, you know, they're in the stores all the time. And it's working.
Darcy Davenport: Thanks, Andrew. Yeah, the program is performing very well. So we absolutely internally view this as a success and something that we want to bring to others. First of all, bring to that same retailer later in the year, but also bring to other food, drug, mass customers and show the impact that they can have on their category and on our business. We're seeing record weekly sales on the rollback items. January was our largest month ever at this retailer. I mean, just a shout-out to our team. They're doing an amazing job with execution. Specifically, and when I say our team, the broader team. We have an internal activation team that I talked about in prior calls, as well as a new broker, and, you know, they're in the stores all the time. And it's working.
Speaker #3: We're seeing record weekly sales on the rollback items. January was our largest month ever at this retailer. I mean, just a shout-out to our team.
Speaker #3: They're doing an amazing job with execution, and when I say our team, the broader team, we have an internal activation team that I talked about in prior calls, as well as a new broker.
Speaker #3: And they're in the stores all the time. And it's working. So I think we had we have good learnings. This was really our first major kind of program, if you think of I mean, right now, we have up to it depends store to store, but we could have up to kind of seven displays throughout the store.
Darcy Davenport: So I think, you know, we have good learnings. This was really our first major kind of program. If you think of—I mean, right now, we have, you know, up to... It depends store to store, but we could have up to kind of 7 displays throughout the store. Obviously, some are in testing, some are in fewer markets. But it is, we have really good learnings that we can now apply to other customers. So yeah, thanks for the question. It's, it's... We're really pleased with the results.
So I think, you know, we have good learnings. This was really our first major kind of program. If you think of—I mean, right now, we have, you know, up to... It depends store to store, but we could have up to kind of 7 displays throughout the store. Obviously, some are in testing, some are in fewer markets. But it is, we have really good learnings that we can now apply to other customers. So yeah, thanks for the question. It's, it's... We're really pleased with the results.
Speaker #3: Obviously, some are in testing, some are in fewer markets. But we have really good learnings that we can now apply to other customers.
Speaker #3: So yeah, thanks for the question. It's we're really pleased with the
Speaker #3: results. Okay.
Andrew Lazar: Okay, great. Thank you.
Andrew Lazar: Okay, great. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Great. Thank you.
Operator: Our next question comes from Megan Clapp with Morgan Stanley.
Operator: Our next question comes from Megan Clapp with Morgan Stanley.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from Megan Klep with Morgan
Speaker #1: Stanley. Hi.
Megan Clapp: Hi, good morning. Thanks so much. I wanted to ask a little bit about the consumption. Darcy, last quarter, you talked about an expectation that December consumption for Premier would accelerate to low double digits, and that would continue into January. I think you noted in the prepared remarks that some of the timing of the mass retailer partnerships was the primary driver of Premier being slightly below. But it seems like into January, the consumption's still running a bit below what you had expected. So can you just help us understand a little bit more of, you know, is that primary, primarily what's going on in the club channel? You know, maybe some of the weaknesses persisted a bit longer than you expected on the promotional intensity into January.
Megan Clapp: Hi, good morning. Thanks so much. I wanted to ask a little bit about the consumption. Darcy, last quarter, you talked about an expectation that December consumption for Premier would accelerate to low double digits, and that would continue into January. I think you noted in the prepared remarks that some of the timing of the mass retailer partnerships was the primary driver of Premier being slightly below. But it seems like into January, the consumption's still running a bit below what you had expected. So can you just help us understand a little bit more of, you know, is that primary, primarily what's going on in the club channel? You know, maybe some of the weaknesses persisted a bit longer than you expected on the promotional intensity into January.
Speaker #4: Good morning. Thanks so much. I wanted to ask a little bit about the consumption. Darcy, last quarter you talked about an expectation that December consumption for Premier would accelerate to low double digits, and that would continue into January.
Speaker #4: I think you noted in the prepared remarks that some of the timing of the mass retailer partnerships was the primary driver of Premier being slightly below.
Speaker #4: But it seems like into January, the consumption is still running a bit below what you had expected. So can you just help us understand a little bit more of is that primary just what's going primarily what's going on in the club channel?
Speaker #4: Maybe some of the weaknesses persisted a bit longer than you expected on the promotional intensity into January. And just help us understand kind of what's embedded into the balance of the year for that channel in particular and maybe you can touch on just the expanded sets as well and how that's factored in.
Megan Clapp: And just help us understand kind of what's embedded into the balance of the year for that channel in particular, and maybe you can touch on just the expanded sets as well and how that's factored in. Thank you.
Megan Clapp: And just help us understand kind of what's embedded into the balance of the year for that channel in particular, and maybe you can touch on just the expanded sets as well and how that's factored in. Thank you.
Speaker #4: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Perfect. Okay, so yes, two main reasons. Premier shake consumption was down 2%. In Q1, we modeled and I predicted it would be flat.
Darcy Davenport: Perfect. Okay. So yes, two main reasons that we so Premier shake consumption was down 2%, in Q1, and we modeled and predicted it would be flat. So, two main reasons. One was what you talked about, which we were slightly below the guide because of the timing delay in setting up that mass promo. And then there's a second piece, which is we started, and I talked about it in my remarks, but we saw a small impact from increased frequency of events from insurgent brands, and that was mainly in club, but also some in mass as well.
Darcy Davenport: Perfect. Okay. So yes, two main reasons that we so Premier shake consumption was down 2%, in Q1, and we modeled and predicted it would be flat. So, two main reasons. One was what you talked about, which we were slightly below the guide because of the timing delay in setting up that mass promo. And then there's a second piece, which is we started, and I talked about it in my remarks, but we saw a small impact from increased frequency of events from insurgent brands, and that was mainly in club, but also some in mass as well.
Speaker #3: So two main reasons. One was what you talked about, which slightly we were slightly below the guide because of the timing delay in setting up that mass promo.
Speaker #3: And then there's a second piece. We started, and I talked about it in my remarks, but we saw a small impact from increased frequency of events from insurgent brands.
Speaker #3: And that was mainly in club, but also some in mass as well. So part of bringing down or narrowing our guide a couple of points, basically taking the top end off the guidance, was we are flowing—we're assuming that level of frequency of events, promotion, throughout the rest of the year.
Darcy Davenport: So part of bringing down our, you know, narrowing our guide, a couple points, basically taking the top end off the guidance, was we are flowing- we're assuming that level of, kind of frequency of events, promotions throughout the rest of the year. So that is, and that is, you know, affecting kind of some of the January consumption that you're seeing, too. What I will say is, and I think you guys are seeing it as well, the consumption is improving. So I think that although we kinda had a little bit of a late start than we expected, lots of learnings there, but we're starting to see a nice increase, 6% all channels, in January, 16% outside of club. So we are seeing some strong momentum.
So part of bringing down our, you know, narrowing our guide, a couple points, basically taking the top end off the guidance, was we are flowing- we're assuming that level of, kind of frequency of events, promotions throughout the rest of the year. So that is, and that is, you know, affecting kind of some of the January consumption that you're seeing, too. What I will say is, and I think you guys are seeing it as well, the consumption is improving. So I think that although we kinda had a little bit of a late start than we expected, lots of learnings there, but we're starting to see a nice increase, 6% all channels, in January, 16% outside of club. So we are seeing some strong momentum.
Speaker #3: So that is and that is affecting kind of some of the January consumption that you're seeing too. What I will say is, and I think you guys are seeing it as well, the consumption is improving.
Speaker #3: So I think that although we kind of had a little bit of a late start, then we expected lots of learnings there. But we're starting to see a nice increase: 6% all channels in January, 16% outside of club.
Speaker #3: So we are seeing some strong momentum. We expect that to continue through and continue into, throughout Q2, and further into the second half as we start seeing our growth drivers become more meaningful.
Darcy Davenport: We expect that to continue through, you know, throughout Q2 and further into the second half, as we start seeing our growth drivers become more meaningful. And I think, Megan, there was another question in there.
We expect that to continue through, you know, throughout Q2 and further into the second half, as we start seeing our growth drivers become more meaningful. And I think, Megan, there was another question in there.
Speaker #3: And I think, Megan, there was another question in
Speaker #3: There. Just the expanded shelf set.
Megan Clapp: Just the expanded shelf set, any update you kind of have on that at your largest club customer?
Megan Clapp: Just the expanded shelf set, any update you kind of have on that at your largest club customer?
Speaker #4: Any update you kind of have on that at your largest
Speaker #4: club customer? Yes.
Darcy Davenport: Yeah. So, you know, as we said last call, we expect that it would stay. We still expect it to stay.
Darcy Davenport: Yeah. So, you know, as we said last call, we expect that it would stay. We still expect it to stay.
Speaker #3: So, as we said last call, we expect that it would stay. We still expect it to.
Speaker #3: stay. Got it.
Megan Clapp: Got it. Thanks, Darcy.
Megan Clapp: Got it. Thanks, Darcy.
Speaker #4: Thanks, Darcy.
Darcy Davenport: Mm-hmm.
Darcy Davenport: Mm-hmm.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from a line of David Palmer with Evercore ISI.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of David Palmer with Evercore ISI.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of David Palmer with Evercore ISI.
Speaker #5: Thanks. Good morning. I wanted to ask you about assumptions going into the back half of the year or less—three-quarters of the year. I think your guidance contemplates mid- to high-single-digit consumption going forward.
David Palmer: ...Thanks. Good morning. I wanted to ask you about just assumptions and, you know, going into the back half of the year or the last three quarters of the year. I think your guidance contemplates mid- to high-single-digit consumption going forward. And, you know, in January, I know people are gonna look at the most recent trends. It's more like mid-single digits in terms of consumption for Premier Protein. And in that month, you know, you could say that it's looking very promotional, not just by the competitors, but by Premier Protein. Looks like it stepped up to 65% volume mix from 45% a year ago. So I'm wondering, you know, if you could help us, you know, work with the recent trend and think about why trends would be at or above this going forward.
David Palmer: ...Thanks. Good morning. I wanted to ask you about just assumptions and, you know, going into the back half of the year or the last three quarters of the year. I think your guidance contemplates mid- to high-single-digit consumption going forward. And, you know, in January, I know people are gonna look at the most recent trends. It's more like mid-single digits in terms of consumption for Premier Protein. And in that month, you know, you could say that it's looking very promotional, not just by the competitors, but by Premier Protein. Looks like it stepped up to 65% volume mix from 45% a year ago. So I'm wondering, you know, if you could help us, you know, work with the recent trend and think about why trends would be at or above this going forward.
Speaker #5: And in January, I know people are going to look at the most recent trends. It's more like mid-single digits in terms of consumption for Premier Protein. And in that month, you could say that it's looking very promotional, not just by the competitors, but Premier Protein looks like it stepped up to a 65% volume mix from 45% a year ago.
Speaker #5: So, I'm wondering if you could help us work with the recent trend and think about why trends would be at or above this going forward.
David Palmer: You know, what are your key assumptions going forward? It sounds like a couple new shakes in the back half would be one of them, because I think people are gonna wanna understand your guidance and why that's realistic. Thank you.
You know, what are your key assumptions going forward? It sounds like a couple new shakes in the back half would be one of them, because I think people are gonna wanna understand your guidance and why that's realistic. Thank you.
Speaker #5: What are your key assumptions going forward? It sounds like a couple of new shakes in the back half would be one of them. Because I think people are going to want to understand your guidance and why that's realistic.
Speaker #5: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Yeah. It's a great question. So as I said, I think we expect consumption to improve in Q2 and further in H2. We said consumption in Q2 would largely track net sales.
Darcy Davenport: Yeah, it's a great question. So, as I said, I think we, you know, we expect consumption to improve in Q2 and further in H2. We said consumption in Q2 would largely track net sales. I do wanna hit your point. There is always weekly consumption noise. Depending on promo timing, year-ago, this year, competitive promos, weather, hard to track weekly consumption. So I know it is the data we have, but it is just... It's gonna be bumpy. And so what I would say, just to zoom out, is that in Q2, we expect our consumption to largely track net sales growth. We expect it to increase throughout the second half as our growth drivers become more meaningful.
Darcy Davenport: Yeah, it's a great question. So, as I said, I think we, you know, we expect consumption to improve in Q2 and further in H2. We said consumption in Q2 would largely track net sales. I do wanna hit your point. There is always weekly consumption noise. Depending on promo timing, year-ago, this year, competitive promos, weather, hard to track weekly consumption. So I know it is the data we have, but it is just... It's gonna be bumpy. And so what I would say, just to zoom out, is that in Q2, we expect our consumption to largely track net sales growth. We expect it to increase throughout the second half as our growth drivers become more meaningful.
Speaker #3: I do want to hit your point. There is always weekly consumption noise. Depending on promo timing—year-ago, this year, competitive promos, weather—it’s hard to track weekly consumption.
Speaker #3: So I know it is the data we have, but it's just—it's going to be bumpy. And so what I would say, just to zoom out, is that in Q2, we expect our consumption to largely track net sales growth.
Speaker #3: We expect it to increase throughout the second half as our growth drivers become more meaningful. I'll go through some of those reasons to believe and why I believe we will see that increase, which is, first of all, distribution and merchandise.
Darcy Davenport: I'll go through some of those kind of reasons to believe and why, you know, I believe we will see that increase, which is, first of all, distribution and merchand-. There's really three pieces: distribution and merchandising, advertising, and innovation. So, distribution and merchandising, it's already starting to build. That's what we're seeing in the consumption right now. We're seeing some good momentum, starting with our mass partnership, but also we have displays in also other food accounts. So, that will continue. The next kind of pulse period is really Q4, but we have some small events also in Q3. The second one is advertising, started in late December. You know, the new Go Get 'Em campaign is to drive, household penetration and, and relevance to kind of the mainstream audience. I love the campaign.
I'll go through some of those kind of reasons to believe and why, you know, I believe we will see that increase, which is, first of all, distribution and merchand-. There's really three pieces: distribution and merchandising, advertising, and innovation. So, distribution and merchandising, it's already starting to build. That's what we're seeing in the consumption right now. We're seeing some good momentum, starting with our mass partnership, but also we have displays in also other food accounts. So, that will continue. The next kind of pulse period is really Q4, but we have some small events also in Q3. The second one is advertising, started in late December. You know, the new Go Get 'Em campaign is to drive, household penetration and, and relevance to kind of the mainstream audience. I love the campaign.
Speaker #3: There are really three pieces: distribution and merchandising, advertising, and innovation. So, distribution and merchandising—it's already starting to build. That's what we're seeing in the consumption right now.
Speaker #3: We're seeing some good momentum starting with our mass partnership. But also, we have displays in other food accounts, so that will continue. The next kind of pulse period is really Q4, but we have some small events also in Q3.
Speaker #3: The second one is, advertising started in late December. The new Go Get 'Em campaign is to drive household penetration and relevance to kind of the mainstream audience.
Speaker #3: I love the campaign. It tested better than any other campaign that we've ever had. But that is a lag. It has a lag on consumption, meaning call it a couple of months before you start seeing it impact consumption.
Darcy Davenport: It tested better than any other campaign that we've ever had. But that has a lag. It has a lag on consumption, meaning, you know, call it a couple of months before you start seeing it impact consumption. So that will more impact kind of the back half. And lastly, innovation. So we launched our Coffeehouse already in mass. We are extending that to a club account this month. So that's exciting. That will start rolling out through to the other accounts throughout the year. I talked about some LTOs that we have coming in that's new, that always... I mean, it seems like a small thing, but it always generates a ton of excitement for consumers and specifically excitement for retailers because they know these things sell and there is some bias for action.
It tested better than any other campaign that we've ever had. But that has a lag. It has a lag on consumption, meaning, you know, call it a couple of months before you start seeing it impact consumption. So that will more impact kind of the back half. And lastly, innovation. So we launched our Coffeehouse already in mass. We are extending that to a club account this month. So that's exciting. That will start rolling out through to the other accounts throughout the year. I talked about some LTOs that we have coming in that's new, that always... I mean, it seems like a small thing, but it always generates a ton of excitement for consumers and specifically excitement for retailers because they know these things sell and there is some bias for action.
Speaker #3: So that will more impact kind of the back half. And lastly, innovation. So we launched our coffee house already in mass. We are extending that to a club account.
Speaker #3: This month, so that's exciting. That will start rolling out through to the other accounts. Throughout the year, I talked about some LTOs. That we have coming in that's new that always I mean, it seems like a small thing, but it always generates a ton of excitement for consumers and specifically excitement for retailers because they know these things sell and there is some bias for action.
Speaker #3: So we often get a lot of displays associated with the LTOs. And lastly, I kind of teased this idea of a couple of new lines.
Darcy Davenport: So we often get a lot of displays associated with the LTOs. And lastly, you know, I kinda teased this idea of a couple new lines, and, although they're later in the back half, yeah, they're exciting lines. You know, one, we are, you know, hitting kind of the higher protein levels. And then the other one, which I was, you know, purposely vague on, but it, it, it's a, it is a line of products that's just a completely different drinking experience than what we have as our- in our, 30-gram shakes. So again, a lot of activity, going on, and that's why you're gonna start seeing the acceleration, in consumption, especially in back half.
So we often get a lot of displays associated with the LTOs. And lastly, you know, I kinda teased this idea of a couple new lines, and, although they're later in the back half, yeah, they're exciting lines. You know, one, we are, you know, hitting kind of the higher protein levels. And then the other one, which I was, you know, purposely vague on, but it, it, it's a, it is a line of products that's just a completely different drinking experience than what we have as our- in our, 30-gram shakes. So again, a lot of activity, going on, and that's why you're gonna start seeing the acceleration, in consumption, especially in back half.
Speaker #3: And although they're later in the back half, yeah, they're exciting lines. One we are hitting kind of the higher protein levels. And then the other one, which I was purposely vague on, but it hits at it is a line of products that's just a completely different drinking experience than what we have as our in our 30-gram shakes.
Speaker #3: So again, a lot of activity going on, and that's why you're going to start seeing the acceleration in consumption, especially in the back
Speaker #3: back half. Thanks for that.
David Palmer: Thanks for that. Pass it on.
David Palmer: Thanks for that. Pass it on.
Speaker #5: Pass it
Speaker #5: on. Our next question comes from
Operator: Our next question comes from Thomas Palmer with J.P. Morgan.
Operator: Our next question comes from Thomas Palmer with J.P. Morgan.
Speaker #1: Thomas Palmer with JP Morgan.
Speaker #6: Hey, it's Elsa on for Tom. So, you've mentioned in the past that you'd expect some of these smaller brands that have entered into the club channel to start filtering out.
Thomas Palmer: Hey, it's Elsa on for Tom. So you've mentioned in the past that you'd expect some of these smaller brands that have entered into the club channel to start filtering out, and I think you've already maybe seen that happen in some cases. Could you just give us an update on where that stands today? You know, are you still seeing more entrants coming into the channel, or is it starting to go the other way? Thanks.
[Company Representative] (JPMorgan): Hey, it's Elsa on for Tom. So you've mentioned in the past that you'd expect some of these smaller brands that have entered into the club channel to start filtering out, and I think you've already maybe seen that happen in some cases. Could you just give us an update on where that stands today? You know, are you still seeing more entrants coming into the channel, or is it starting to go the other way? Thanks.
Speaker #6: And I think you've already maybe seen that happen in some cases. Could you just give us an update on where that stands today? Are you still seeing more entrants coming into the channel, or is it starting to go the other way?
Speaker #6: Thanks.
Darcy Davenport: Yeah, we are seeing, I think, you know, with a category like this, that has the growth and the potential that, that we see, it is expected to have, you know, more competition. The way I have described this before, but it probably would be helpful to just hit it again. The way we break down the category is, we have about half the category are the leading brands, which includes Premier. Then about, call it 10% of the category, are these insurgent and crossover brands, which is really what you're asking about. And then about 30% of the category are declining legacy brands, which have been meaningful share donors over, over the years. There's an extra 10% that basically just follow the category growth.
Speaker #4: Yeah, we are seeing, I think, with a category like this that has the growth and the potential that we see, it is expected to have more competition.
Darcy Davenport: Yeah, we are seeing, I think, you know, with a category like this, that has the growth and the potential that, that we see, it is expected to have, you know, more competition. The way I have described this before, but it probably would be helpful to just hit it again. The way we break down the category is, we have about half the category are the leading brands, which includes Premier. Then about, call it 10% of the category, are these insurgent and crossover brands, which is really what you're asking about. And then about 30% of the category are declining legacy brands, which have been meaningful share donors over, over the years. There's an extra 10% that basically just follow the category growth.
Speaker #4: The way I have described this before, but it probably would be helpful to just hit it again. The way we break down the category is we have about half the category of the leading brands, which includes Premier.
Speaker #4: Then about, call it, 10% of the category are these insurgent and crossover brands, which is really what you're asking about. And then about 30% of the category are declining legacy brands, which have been meaningful shared donors over the years.
Speaker #4: There's an extra 10% that basically just follow the category growth. But in general, if you think of those three key areas, we the insurgent brands much like other categories like energy.
Darcy Davenport: But in general, if you think of those three key areas, the insurgent brands, much like other categories, like energy, there's just a lot of brands that come in and out. We're actively watching repeat rates. We have already seen, you know, some brands not make it, especially in club, because those thresholds are very high. And so, yes, we've already seen kind of the shakeout. What I expect is that 10% of market share that we're seeing with insurgent and crossover brands, that will probably stick. It'll just be a different set of brands that are competing. So I would say that, yes, we're continuing to see kind of the shakeout. We are just, you know, we're watching. Remember, this is where low household penetration category, you can have, you know, you can have multiple winners.
But in general, if you think of those three key areas, the insurgent brands, much like other categories, like energy, there's just a lot of brands that come in and out. We're actively watching repeat rates. We have already seen, you know, some brands not make it, especially in club, because those thresholds are very high. And so, yes, we've already seen kind of the shakeout. What I expect is that 10% of market share that we're seeing with insurgent and crossover brands, that will probably stick. It'll just be a different set of brands that are competing. So I would say that, yes, we're continuing to see kind of the shakeout. We are just, you know, we're watching. Remember, this is where low household penetration category, you can have, you know, you can have multiple winners.
Speaker #4: There's just a lot of brands that come in and out. We're actively watching repeat rates. We have already seen some brands not make it, especially in club, because those thresholds are very high.
Speaker #4: And so, yes, we've already seen kind of the shakeout. What I expect is that the 10% of market share that we're seeing with insurgent and crossover brands, that will probably stick.
Speaker #4: It'll just be a different set of brands that are competing. So, I would say that, yes, we're continuing to see kind of the shakeout.
Speaker #4: We are just—we’re watching. Remember, this is where, in a low household penetration category, you can have multiple winners. And don't forget that there is kind of 30% of the category that have been meaningful share donors.
Darcy Davenport: Don't forget that there is kind of 30% of the category that have been meaningful share donors and will continue to be.
Don't forget that there is kind of 30% of the category that have been meaningful share donors and will continue to be.
Speaker #4: And we'll continue to
Operator: Our next question comes from Jim Salera with Stephens.
Operator: Our next question comes from Jim Salera with Stephens.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from Jim Solera with Stevens.
Jim Salera: Hey, Darcy, April. Good morning. Thanks for taking our question. Darcy, you called out several of these challenger brands being more promotional. And I wonder, do you have any data on the consumer shopping behavior for any of these particular brands when the promo rolls off? Is there an instance where consumers are just really being attracted by kind of the prominence of the discounting, but once that's pulled away, they revert back to previous brands? Any commentary you can provide on that would be great.
Jim Salera: Hey, Darcy, April. Good morning. Thanks for taking our question. Darcy, you called out several of these challenger brands being more promotional. And I wonder, do you have any data on the consumer shopping behavior for any of these particular brands when the promo rolls off? Is there an instance where consumers are just really being attracted by kind of the prominence of the discounting, but once that's pulled away, they revert back to previous brands? Any commentary you can provide on that would be great.
Speaker #7: Hey, Dorothy Apel. Good morning. Thanks for taking our question. Dorothy, you called out several of these challenger brands being more promotional. And I wonder, do you have any data on the consumer shopping behavior for any of these particular brands when the promo rolls off?
Speaker #7: Is there an instance where consumers are just really being attracted by kind of the prominence of the discounting, but once that's pulled away, they revert back to previous brands?
Speaker #7: Any commentary you can provide on that would be great.
Speaker #4: Yeah, I don't know if I have specific data on that. I would just say we're watching it. I mean, here's what we do see.
Darcy Davenport: Yeah, I don't know if I have specific data on that. I would just say we're watching it. I mean, here's what we do see, you know. We assumed, and I talked about it last call, given, you know, these insurgent brands, they're going to spend to try to get their foothold in the category. So we knew that this next year, 2026, it would be, you know, slightly elevated promotional spending. What I would say, you know, what we're- what we saw kind of year to date is frequency. So it's less about, like, more depth, it's more about just frequency of events, especially in club, but also we're seeing it in mass as well. So I would say, I mean, it's, it's early. It's only a few months in.
Darcy Davenport: Yeah, I don't know if I have specific data on that. I would just say we're watching it. I mean, here's what we do see, you know. We assumed, and I talked about it last call, given, you know, these insurgent brands, they're going to spend to try to get their foothold in the category. So we knew that this next year, 2026, it would be, you know, slightly elevated promotional spending. What I would say, you know, what we're- what we saw kind of year to date is frequency. So it's less about, like, more depth, it's more about just frequency of events, especially in club, but also we're seeing it in mass as well. So I would say, I mean, it's, it's early. It's only a few months in.
Speaker #4: We assumed, and I talked about it last call, given these insurgent brands, they're going to spend to try to get their foothold in the category.
Speaker #4: So, we knew that this next year—'26—it would be slightly elevated promotional spending. What I would say, what we saw kind of year to date, is frequency.
Speaker #4: So it's less about more depth; it's more about just frequency of events. Especially in club, but also we're seeing it in mass as well.
Speaker #4: So I would say, only a few months in. I mean, it's early. I think we It's have conservatively embedded this higher number of events throughout the year.
Darcy Davenport: I think we have conservatively embedded this higher number of events throughout the year. But I would say, to have specifics about kind of what you're asking about, bump and stick, I think, is what we call it internally. I don't think necessarily we have that data, but as you can imagine, we are watching it very closely.
I think we have conservatively embedded this higher number of events throughout the year. But I would say, to have specifics about kind of what you're asking about, bump and stick, I think, is what we call it internally. I don't think necessarily we have that data, but as you can imagine, we are watching it very closely.
Speaker #4: But I would say, to have specifics about kind of what you're asking about, bump and stick, I think, is what we call it internally.
Speaker #4: I don't think necessarily we have that data, but as you can imagine, we are watching it very closely.
Jim Salera: Good. Great. Thank you. I'll be back in the queue.
Jim Salera: Good. Great. Thank you. I'll be back in the queue.
Speaker #7: Okay. Great. Thank you. I'll back it with you.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from Alexia Howard with Bernstein.
Operator: Our next question comes from Alexia Howard with Bernstein.
Operator: Our next question comes from Alexia Howard with Bernstein.
Speaker #8: Good morning. Can I ask about Diamond Ties? Specifically, what's driving the growth in the international markets to be higher than expected? And then domestically, how are share trends moving since the quite favorable Consumer Reports article about the fact that the brand does not have heavy metals in it to the same degree as the competition?
Alexia Howard: Good morning. Can I ask about Dymatize? Specifically, what's driving the growth in the international markets to be higher than expected? And then domestically, how are share trends moving since the quite favorable Consumer Reports article about the fact that the brand does not have heavy metals in it to the same degree as the competition? Thank you, and I'll pass it on.
Alexia Howard: Good morning. Can I ask about Dymatize? Specifically, what's driving the growth in the international markets to be higher than expected? And then domestically, how are share trends moving since the quite favorable Consumer Reports article about the fact that the brand does not have heavy metals in it to the same degree as the competition? Thank you, and I'll pass it on.
Speaker #8: Thank you, and I'll pass it.
Paul Rode: Yeah, Darcy, I'll start with Dymatize, and then if you can weigh in on her second question. You know, Dymatize International has been performing very well, you know, for a long period of time. We saw it really throughout 2026 or fiscal 2025, where Dymatize performed well in a number of markets across the globe, Middle East, South America, you know, Central America. So it's performed very well. We have a great sales team or a great management team over international. We have great distributor partners around the world, and so it's just continued to perform well. You may recall, we expected actually, we had a really strong Q4.
Paul Rode: Yeah, Darcy, I'll start with Dymatize, and then if you can weigh in on her second question. You know, Dymatize International has been performing very well, you know, for a long period of time. We saw it really throughout 2026 or fiscal 2025, where Dymatize performed well in a number of markets across the globe, Middle East, South America, you know, Central America. So it's performed very well. We have a great sales team or a great management team over international. We have great distributor partners around the world, and so it's just continued to perform well. You may recall, we expected actually, we had a really strong Q4.
Speaker #7: Yeah, Dorothy, I'll start with Diamond Ties and then if you can weigh in on her second question. Diamond Ties International has been performing very well for a long period of time.
Speaker #7: We saw it really throughout '26, or fiscal '25, where Diamond Ties performed well. And the number of markets across the globe—Middle East, South America, Central America—so it’s performed very well.
Speaker #7: We have a great sales team, or a great management team over international. We have great distributor partners around the world. And so it's just continued to perform well.
Speaker #7: You may recall we expected—actually, we had a really strong Q4. We thought some of that was maybe a pull-forward ahead of pricing, but Q1 actually came in better than we expected.
Paul Rode: We thought some of that was maybe a pull forward ahead of pricing, but Q1 actually came in better than we expected, and so that's why we now think that Q1 will stick, and we've raised our expectations a bit on international. But it's just the brand resonates. I think the competitive set, perhaps in international markets, is a little bit different, a little less intense perhaps than you see in the US. The shopping experience, I think it's still, you know, a lot in specialty channel stores, whereas obviously in the States, it's been pivoting towards online, and more in some of the mass channels. But like I said, it's continued to perform well, and we expect it to continue. Darcy, you wanna take the second part of that?
We thought some of that was maybe a pull forward ahead of pricing, but Q1 actually came in better than we expected, and so that's why we now think that Q1 will stick, and we've raised our expectations a bit on international. But it's just the brand resonates. I think the competitive set, perhaps in international markets, is a little bit different, a little less intense perhaps than you see in the US. The shopping experience, I think it's still, you know, a lot in specialty channel stores, whereas obviously in the States, it's been pivoting towards online, and more in some of the mass channels. But like I said, it's continued to perform well, and we expect it to continue. Darcy, you wanna take the second part of that?
Speaker #7: And so that's why we now think that Q1 will stick. And we've raised our expectations a bit on international, but it's just the brand resonates.
Speaker #7: I think the competitive set, perhaps in international markets, is a little bit different—a little less intense, perhaps, than you see in the US.
Speaker #7: The shopping experience, I think it's still a lot in specialty channel stores. Whereas, obviously in the States, it's been pivoting towards online and more in some of the mass channels.
Speaker #7: But like I said, it's continued to perform well. And we expect it to continue. Dorothy, you want to take the second part of that?
Speaker #4: Yeah, with regards to US share trends. I mean, it's pretty flat. So we're basically growing with the category I would just say that the challenge the brand is a really strong brand.
Darcy Davenport: Yeah, with regards to US share trends, I mean, it's pretty flat, so, you know, we're basically growing with the category. I would just say that, you know, the brand is a really strong brand. And yeah, nice to get some acknowledgement in some of this with some good PR. But there are challenges on whey pricing. I mean, I know that Paul talked about it, having some headwinds, but that's facing the entire category. So, you know, we've kind of pulled back on support for Dymatize just to manage the P&L, candidly, so because the whey pricing is so high. But overall, it's a strong brand, well-known, and holding share basically in a growing category.
Darcy Davenport: Yeah, with regards to US share trends, I mean, it's pretty flat, so, you know, we're basically growing with the category. I would just say that, you know, the brand is a really strong brand. And yeah, nice to get some acknowledgement in some of this with some good PR. But there are challenges on whey pricing. I mean, I know that Paul talked about it, having some headwinds, but that's facing the entire category. So, you know, we've kind of pulled back on support for Dymatize just to manage the P&L, candidly, so because the whey pricing is so high. But overall, it's a strong brand, well-known, and holding share basically in a growing category.
Speaker #4: And yeah, nice to get some acknowledgment in some of this with some good PR. But there are challenges on way pricing. I mean, I know that Paul talked about it.
Speaker #4: We're having some headwinds, but that's facing the entire category. So we've kind of pulled back on support for Diamond Ties, just to manage the P&L, candidly.
Speaker #4: So, because the way pricing is so high. But overall, it's a strong brand—well-known, and holding share basically in a growing category.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from a line of Yasmin Deswandi. With Bank of
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Yasmin Deswandhy with Bank of America.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Yasmin Deswandhy with Bank of America.
Speaker #1: America. Hey guys, good morning.
Yasmin Deswandhy: Hey, guys, good morning. I just had a bigger picture question. So in your slides, you talk about expanding your category definition from convenient nutrition to wellness. So is there any reason we should infer that there has been, you know, a change to your portfolio priorities or M&A priorities, as you, you know, maybe look into expanding into these categories? Or is it, you know, or is it, kind of holding as is? Thank you.
Yasmine Deswandhy: Hey, guys, good morning. I just had a bigger picture question. So in your slides, you talk about expanding your category definition from convenient nutrition to wellness. So is there any reason we should infer that there has been, you know, a change to your portfolio priorities or M&A priorities, as you, you know, maybe look into expanding into these categories? Or is it, you know, or is it, kind of holding as is? Thank you.
Speaker #9: I just had a bigger picture question. So in your slides, you talk about expanding your category definition from convenient nutrition to wellness. So is there any reason we should infer that there has been a change to your portfolio priorities or M&A priorities as you maybe look into expanding into these categories?
Speaker #9: Or is it kind of holding as is? Thank
Speaker #9: you. Yeah,
Darcy Davenport: Yeah, Yasmin, so just let me just give you a little more context on the category definition change. So, you know, we do a pretty thorough category study with consumers. The last one we did was about four years ago. Our category has changed a ton since then. So when we did it this last time, there were some new types of products that consumers put into this category. First of all, they don't call it convenient nutrition, they call it wellness, and so then we're gonna evolve the name. But other products, like some, you know, powder products, like hydration powder products, think protein coffee, different types of isotonic protein drinks. Even you've started to see, like, protein sodas around. So, like, those types of product- and expanded protein treats.
Darcy Davenport: Yeah, Yasmin, so just let me just give you a little more context on the category definition change. So, you know, we do a pretty thorough category study with consumers. The last one we did was about four years ago. Our category has changed a ton since then. So when we did it this last time, there were some new types of products that consumers put into this category. First of all, they don't call it convenient nutrition, they call it wellness, and so then we're gonna evolve the name. But other products, like some, you know, powder products, like hydration powder products, think protein coffee, different types of isotonic protein drinks. Even you've started to see, like, protein sodas around. So, like, those types of product- and expanded protein treats.
Speaker #4: Yasmin, so just let me give you a little more context on the category definition change. We do a pretty thorough category study with consumers.
Speaker #4: We did the last one we did was about four years ago. Category has changed a ton since then. So when we did it, this last time, there were some new types of products that consumers put into this category.
Speaker #4: First of all, they don't call it convenient nutrition. They call it wellness. And so then we're going to evolve the name. But other products like some powder products like hydration powder products, I think protein coffee, different types of isotonic protein drinks, even you've started to see protein sodas around.
Speaker #4: So those types of products and expanded protein treats. So all of those things go into our category, which makes it increase about 10%, which is not insignificant.
Darcy Davenport: So all of those things go into our category, which makes it, you know, increase about 10%, which is not insignificant. As far as your question around, does it change, you know, how we're thinking about, you know, M&A and different things like that? I would say it absolutely... I mean, we are a consumer-obsessed company, so we are constantly looking at what consumers want and how we can get incremental sales, whether it be through organic innovation, which are some of the things that, you know, we are really focused on internally. But also we obviously look at inorganic opportunity as well.
So all of those things go into our category, which makes it, you know, increase about 10%, which is not insignificant. As far as your question around, does it change, you know, how we're thinking about, you know, M&A and different things like that? I would say it absolutely... I mean, we are a consumer-obsessed company, so we are constantly looking at what consumers want and how we can get incremental sales, whether it be through organic innovation, which are some of the things that, you know, we are really focused on internally. But also we obviously look at inorganic opportunity as well.
Speaker #4: As far as your question around does it change how we're thinking about M&A and different things like that, I would say it absolutely I mean, we are a consumer-obsessed company.
Speaker #4: So, we are constantly looking at what consumers want, and how we can get incremental sales, whether it be through organic innovation, which are some of the things that we are really focused on internally.
Speaker #4: But also, we obviously look at inorganic opportunity as well.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from Brian Holland with DA.
Operator: Our next question comes from Brian Holland with D.A. Davidson.
Operator: Our next question comes from Brian Holland with D.A. Davidson.
Speaker #1: Davidson. Yeah, thanks.
Brian Holland: Yeah, thanks. Good morning. Maybe just to clarify first, Darcy, high level, obviously, the consumption inflection, second half, December, January, was not to where you thought it would be. And obviously, you've explained some of the reasons that might be. So I just wanted to isolate and ask whether the mass merchandise, mass retailer merchandising event, whether that is performing to expectation and, you know, it was maybe impacted by, like you said, the lag in the rollout or, what's happening in club. Or is competitive activity in that mass retailer, where we're seeing a bunch of rollbacks, et cetera, weighing on the actual performance at that customer relative to expectations?
Brian Holland: Yeah, thanks. Good morning. Maybe just to clarify first, Darcy, high level, obviously, the consumption inflection, second half, December, January, was not to where you thought it would be. And obviously, you've explained some of the reasons that might be. So I just wanted to isolate and ask whether the mass merchandise, mass retailer merchandising event, whether that is performing to expectation and, you know, it was maybe impacted by, like you said, the lag in the rollout or, what's happening in club. Or is competitive activity in that mass retailer, where we're seeing a bunch of rollbacks, et cetera, weighing on the actual performance at that customer relative to expectations?
Speaker #7: Good morning. Maybe just to clarify first, Dorothy, high-level, obviously the consumption inflection second half December, January was not to where you thought it would be.
Speaker #7: And obviously, you've explained some of the reasons that might be. So I just wanted to isolate and ask whether the mass merchandise, mass retailer merchandising event—whether that is performing to expectation and if it was maybe impacted by, like you said, the lag in the rollout or what's happening in club, or is competitive activity in that mass retailer, where we're seeing a bunch of rollbacks, etc., is that weighing on the actual performance at that customer relative to expectations?
Speaker #7: And then second part of the question, which I guess is kind of totally separate, but sightlines into similar merchandising events here as we look over the balance of the year that we can anticipate, whether it's in club, which is obviously going to be a pressure point, or—
Brian Holland: And then, second part of the question, which I guess is kind of totally separate, but just sight lines into similar merchandising events here as we look over the balance of the year that we can anticipate, whether it's in club, which is obviously in a pressure point, or elsewhere.
Brian Holland: And then, second part of the question, which I guess is kind of totally separate, but just sight lines into similar merchandising events here as we look over the balance of the year that we can anticipate, whether it's in club, which is obviously in a pressure point, or elsewhere.
Speaker #7: elsewhere. Okay.
Darcy Davenport: Okay, I'm gonna answer your first question, and I might... You were going in and out a little bit, so you might have to repeat the second one. But let me hit the first one. So, in the mass retailer, the delay, the kind of delay was the biggest contributor to the softer consumption. Small impact from increased competition, but the larger was the timing, and I would say now that we are fully set up, the event is hitting our expectations. So, like I said, the bigger, you know, the bigger reason was just the delay. So then your second question?
Darcy Davenport: Okay, I'm gonna answer your first question, and I might... You were going in and out a little bit, so you might have to repeat the second one. But let me hit the first one. So, in the mass retailer, the delay, the kind of delay was the biggest contributor to the softer consumption. Small impact from increased competition, but the larger was the timing, and I would say now that we are fully set up, the event is hitting our expectations. So, like I said, the bigger, you know, the bigger reason was just the delay. So then your second question?
Speaker #4: I'm going to answer your first question. And I might— you were going in and out a little bit. So you might have to repeat the second one.
Speaker #4: But let me hit the first one. So in the mass retailer, the delay—kind of delay—was the biggest contributor to the softer consumption.
Speaker #4: There was a small impact from increased competition, but the larger factor was the timing. And I would say now that we are fully set up, the event is hitting our expectations.
Speaker #4: So, like I said, the bigger reason was just the delay. So then, your second question?
Speaker #10: Yeah, hopefully this is clear. I apologize for any technical difficulties there. So, just the second part of the question was sightlines into similar merchandising events, either at this mass customer or other customers' club, etc., over the balance of the year now, as we're just maybe one quarter in, that might similarly catalyze demand.
Brian Holland: Yeah, I'm sorry. I'll remove the headsets. Hopefully, this is clear. I apologize for any technical difficulties there. So just the second part of the question was, sight lines into similar merchandising events, either at this mass customer or other customers, club, et cetera, over the balance of the year, now as we're, you know, just maybe one quarter in, that might similarly catalyze demand?
Brian Holland: Yeah, I'm sorry. I'll remove the headsets. Hopefully, this is clear. I apologize for any technical difficulties there. So just the second part of the question was, sight lines into similar merchandising events, either at this mass customer or other customers, club, et cetera, over the balance of the year, now as we're, you know, just maybe one quarter in, that might similarly catalyze demand?
Speaker #4: Yeah, we're in the process of, if you can imagine, I mean, we're a Fed third. And we just kind of are seeing the kind of impact that it's having.
Darcy Davenport: ... Yeah, we're in the process of, if you can imagine, I mean, we're on 3 February, and we just kind of are seeing the kind of impact that it's having. So the team is putting together sales materials to go back in. Obviously, we already have line of sight to kind of our promotional plans. I think now what we're trying to do is going back in and making them bigger, honestly. So, coming with this information, showing what the potential is, showing pictures. Also, you know, I wanna hit this like execution because showing what great execution can look like for us, because this execution is much better than we've ever had before. We haven't had these type of displays.
Darcy Davenport: ... Yeah, we're in the process of, if you can imagine, I mean, we're on 3 February, and we just kind of are seeing the kind of impact that it's having. So the team is putting together sales materials to go back in. Obviously, we already have line of sight to kind of our promotional plans. I think now what we're trying to do is going back in and making them bigger, honestly. So, coming with this information, showing what the potential is, showing pictures. Also, you know, I wanna hit this like execution because showing what great execution can look like for us, because this execution is much better than we've ever had before. We haven't had these type of displays.
Speaker #4: So, the team is putting together sell materials to go back in. Obviously, we already have line of sight to kind of our promotional plans.
Speaker #4: I think now what we're trying to do is go back in and make them bigger, honestly. So, coming with this information, showing what the potential is, showing pictures—also, I want to hit this execution, because showing what great execution can look like for us, because this execution is much better than we've ever had before.
Speaker #4: We haven't had these types of displays. We haven't had these types of singles displays. And then having people—having our brokers come in and making sure that it's stocked.
Darcy Davenport: We haven't had these type of singles displays, and then having people, you know, having, you know, our brokers come in and making sure that it's stocked. So we're now going out with this information and trying to make the promotions that we have sold into bigger.
We haven't had these type of singles displays, and then having people, you know, having, you know, our brokers come in and making sure that it's stocked. So we're now going out with this information and trying to make the promotions that we have sold into bigger.
Speaker #4: So we're now going out with this information and trying to make the promotions that we have sold into
Speaker #4: bigger. Our next question comes from
Operator: Our next question comes from John Anderson with William Blair.
Operator: Our next question comes from John Anderson with William Blair.
Speaker #1: John Anderson with William Blair.
Speaker #11: Hey, thanks very much. Good morning. Just a quick one—it's kind of related to that last question, Darcy. I think on the last call you mentioned real focus, along with your merchandising or broker partner, on securing displays for singles and entry price point multi-packs.
John Anderson: Hey, thanks. Thanks very much. Good morning. Just a quick one that's kind of related to that last question, Darcy. I think on the last call, you mentioned a real focus, along with your merchandising or broker partner, securing displays for singles and entry price point multi-packs. To what extent has that kind of played out the way you would hope? I know, except the mass delay, but more broadly. And, are there incremental costs that you as an organization have to absorb to kind of take on this new capability that would have a longer-term effect on profitability or margins in the business? Thank you.
Jon Andersen: Hey, thanks. Thanks very much. Good morning. Just a quick one that's kind of related to that last question, Darcy. I think on the last call, you mentioned a real focus, along with your merchandising or broker partner, securing displays for singles and entry price point multi-packs. To what extent has that kind of played out the way you would hope? I know, except the mass delay, but more broadly. And, are there incremental costs that you as an organization have to absorb to kind of take on this new capability that would have a longer-term effect on profitability or margins in the business? Thank you.
Speaker #11: To what extent has that kind of played out the way you had hoped? I don't X the mass delay, but more broadly, and are there incremental costs that you as an organization have to absorb to kind of take on this new capability that would have a longer-term effect on profitability or margins in the business?
Speaker #11: Thank
Speaker #11: Thank you. I'll hit singles
Darcy Davenport: I'll hit singles and progress, and I'll let Paul talk about costs. Yeah, I would say it's early, but it's working. So do you know, I said in my remarks that singles in January were double what they were last year. So, I think that it is. We're getting these displays out there, we're getting trial, and, you know, it is starting to work. But it's early. So I would just say that. And we're learning a ton. We're learning, you know, do we need people in the store restocking shelves more often than we're doing it right now? Do we need them in certain stores, in other regions and not in others?
Darcy Davenport: I'll hit singles and progress, and I'll let Paul talk about costs. Yeah, I would say it's early, but it's working. So do you know, I said in my remarks that singles in January were double what they were last year. So, I think that it is. We're getting these displays out there, we're getting trial, and, you know, it is starting to work. But it's early. So I would just say that. And we're learning a ton. We're learning, you know, do we need people in the store restocking shelves more often than we're doing it right now? Do we need them in certain stores, in other regions and not in others?
Speaker #4: and progress, and I'll let Paul talk about costs. Yeah, I would say it's early, but it's working. So I said in my remarks that singles in January were double what they were last year.
Speaker #4: So I think that it is we're getting these displays out there. We're getting trial. And it is starting to work. But it's early. So I would just say that and we're learning a ton.
Speaker #4: We’re learning: Do we need people in the store restocking shelves more often than we’re doing it right now? Do we need them in certain stores in other regions and not in others?
Speaker #4: So, it is like a very steep learning curve, but it's exciting because I think the most important thing is the consumer pull, and we're seeing that.
Darcy Davenport: So it is like a very steep learning curve, but it's exciting because I think the most important thing is the consumer pull, and we're seeing that. So we know we have the right product. We know we you know we know getting out of the aisle is key. We know singles, for instance, will get you know get new trial from consumers in household 10. So now it's just about you know really quickly implementing these learnings. And then I'll pass to Paul on costs.
So it is like a very steep learning curve, but it's exciting because I think the most important thing is the consumer pull, and we're seeing that. So we know we have the right product. We know we you know we know getting out of the aisle is key. We know singles, for instance, will get you know get new trial from consumers in household 10. So now it's just about you know really quickly implementing these learnings. And then I'll pass to Paul on costs.
Speaker #4: So, we know we have the right product. We know this is—we know getting out of the aisle is key. We know singles, for instance, will get new trial from consumers and household penetration.
Speaker #4: So now it's just about really quickly implementing these learnings. And then I'll pass it to Paul on costs.
Speaker #10: Yeah, we talked about on the last call that we're obviously making significant investments this year on promotions, merchandising, brand marketing, so all the brand investments.
Paul Rode: Yeah, you know, we talked about on the last call that we're obviously making significant investments this year on promotions, merchandising, brand, you know, marketing, so all the brand investments. So yes, there is some incremental cost to the merchandising that we believe is obviously gonna help us build, continue to build our sales growth and, and fuel this business. So there is some incremental, but that's all contemplated in our guidance. It's not a dramatic change on just the merchandising piece alone, but there is some incremental cost.
Paul Rode: Yeah, you know, we talked about on the last call that we're obviously making significant investments this year on promotions, merchandising, brand, you know, marketing, so all the brand investments. So yes, there is some incremental cost to the merchandising that we believe is obviously gonna help us build, continue to build our sales growth and, and fuel this business. So there is some incremental, but that's all contemplated in our guidance. It's not a dramatic change on just the merchandising piece alone, but there is some incremental cost.
Speaker #10: So, yes, there is some incremental cost to the merchandising that we believe is obviously going to help us continue to build our sales growth and fuel this business.
Speaker #10: So there is some incremental, but that's all contemplated in our guidance. It's not a dramatic change on just the merchandising piece alone. But there is some incremental cost.
Speaker #11: Thanks so much.
John Anderson: Thanks so much.
Jon Andersen: Thanks so much.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from Camille Gajrewala with Jefferies.
Operator: Our next question comes from Kaumil Gajrawala with Jefferies.
Operator: Our next question comes from Kaumil Gajrawala with Jefferies.
Kaumil Gajrawala: Hi. We're going, you know, and I think you've mentioned it a few times, as we're, you know, we're going into a major protein boom or trend, maybe bubble, whatever you wanna call it. And I guess I'm trying to work out with all your commentary around promotions and competition, does it feel irrational? The big difference perhaps between energy drinks and maybe this category is, this category seems to be a lot more promotional than energy drinks are. And so I'm just wondering, as you see this race for protein everything, is it happening in a sort of a healthy way from a profit perspective? Or do you feel like there's some, you know, irrational actors, and you just have to work through the process of them coming and going? Thanks.
Kaumil Gajrawala: Hi. We're going, you know, and I think you've mentioned it a few times, as we're, you know, we're going into a major protein boom or trend, maybe bubble, whatever you wanna call it. And I guess I'm trying to work out with all your commentary around promotions and competition, does it feel irrational? The big difference perhaps between energy drinks and maybe this category is, this category seems to be a lot more promotional than energy drinks are. And so I'm just wondering, as you see this race for protein everything, is it happening in a sort of a healthy way from a profit perspective? Or do you feel like there's some, you know, irrational actors, and you just have to work through the process of them coming and going? Thanks.
Speaker #11: Hi. We're going and I think you've mentioned it a few times as we're going into a major protein boom or trend, maybe bubble, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker #11: And I guess I'm trying to work out with all your commentary around promotions and competition, does it feel irrational? The big difference perhaps between energy drinks and maybe this category is this category seems to be a lot more promotional than energy drinks are.
Speaker #11: And so I'm just wondering, as you see this race for protein everything, is it happening in sort of a healthy way from a profit perspective?
Speaker #11: Or do you feel like there are some irrational actors and we just have to work through the process of them coming and going? Thanks.
Darcy Davenport: Yeah, great question. So okay, let's step back. So the category actually is usually not that promotionally driven. Now, I actually don't know the energy. You probably know that better, but it's about 25 to 30% sold on deal. So, compared to, you know, a lot of other categories in the store, that's pretty low. Having said that, this year is higher, as I've mentioned, the reasons. As far as rational actors, yeah, I would say that some of the insurgent brands are less rational. And I think that we expected some of that, because they're trying to gain trial, and so they're going to be, you know, spending to do so. So I'll just give some examples. You know, in club...
Darcy Davenport: Yeah, great question. So okay, let's step back. So the category actually is usually not that promotionally driven. Now, I actually don't know the energy. You probably know that better, but it's about 25 to 30% sold on deal. So, compared to, you know, a lot of other categories in the store, that's pretty low. Having said that, this year is higher, as I've mentioned, the reasons. As far as rational actors, yeah, I would say that some of the insurgent brands are less rational. And I think that we expected some of that, because they're trying to gain trial, and so they're going to be, you know, spending to do so. So I'll just give some examples. You know, in club...
Speaker #4: Yeah, great question. So, okay, let's step back. So, the category actually is usually not that promotionally driven. Now, I actually don't know that. The energy—you probably know that better.
Speaker #4: But it's about 25 to 30 percent sold on deals. So in compared to a lot of other categories, in the store, that's pretty low.
Speaker #4: Having said that, this year is higher, as I mentioned the reasons. As far as rational actors—yeah, I would say that some of the insurgent brands are less rational.
Speaker #4: And I think that we expected some of that because they are trying to gain trial, and so they're going to be spending to do so.
Speaker #4: So, I'll just give some examples. In Club, there are these insurgent brands that are spending a ton of money on demos, on promotion displays, etc.
Darcy Davenport: You know, there are these insurgent brands that are spending a ton of money on demos, on, you know, promotion, displays, et cetera. I think that, I think if you zoom out, I do think this is kind of a point in time. I do not think it is the new normal. I think part of it is what you referenced, which is, it's like this protein craze, and it's like a land grab. I think that, you know, we fully expect that, you know, once retailers kinda consolidate around the best-performing brands, this heightened promotion should eventually come down. But as you know, I talked about reason why we're narrowing the guide was mainly because we're gonna expect it. Kind of frequency events, especially by these insurgent brands, will continue for the year.
You know, there are these insurgent brands that are spending a ton of money on demos, on, you know, promotion, displays, et cetera. I think that, I think if you zoom out, I do think this is kind of a point in time. I do not think it is the new normal. I think part of it is what you referenced, which is, it's like this protein craze, and it's like a land grab. I think that, you know, we fully expect that, you know, once retailers kinda consolidate around the best-performing brands, this heightened promotion should eventually come down. But as you know, I talked about reason why we're narrowing the guide was mainly because we're gonna expect it. Kind of frequency events, especially by these insurgent brands, will continue for the year.
Speaker #4: I think that if you zoom out, I do think this is kind of a point in time. I do not think it is the new normal.
Speaker #4: I think part of it is what you referenced, which is, it's like this protein craze and it's like a land grab. I think that we fully expect that once retail is kind of consolidated around the best-performing brands, this heightened promotion should eventually come down.
Speaker #4: But as I talked about reason why for narrowing the guide was mainly because we're going to expect it kind of frequency events especially by these insurgent brands will continue for the year.
Brian Holland: Got it. Thank you.
Brian Holland: Got it. Thank you.
Speaker #11: Got it. Thank you.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from Robert Moscow with PD Cowan.
Operator: Our next question comes from Robert Moskow with TD Cowen.
Operator: Our next question comes from Robert Moskow with TD Cowen.
Robert Moskow: Hey, I was hoping to dig a little deeper, Darcy, into M&A, and just how you and the board think about, you know, risk and reward. So you mentioned insurgent brands many times. Are any of them that, you know... Do you think any of them will stand the test of time? And if so, you know, there is an example of this in the energy drink category, with two big energy brands merging and creating some real distribution and marketing synergies. Is there an opportunity for that to happen in the protein drink, in protein shake category as well?
Robert Moskow: Hey, I was hoping to dig a little deeper, Darcy, into M&A, and just how you and the board think about, you know, risk and reward. So you mentioned insurgent brands many times. Are any of them that, you know... Do you think any of them will stand the test of time? And if so, you know, there is an example of this in the energy drink category, with two big energy brands merging and creating some real distribution and marketing synergies. Is there an opportunity for that to happen in the protein drink, in protein shake category as well?
Speaker #11: Hey, I was hoping to dig a little deeper, Darcy, into M&A and just how you and the board think about risk and reward. So you mentioned insurgent brands many times.
Speaker #11: Are any of them that do you think any of them will stand the test of time? And if so, there is a there is an example of this in the energy drink category with two big energy brands, Merging and creating some real distribution and marketing synergies.
Speaker #11: Is there an opportunity for that to happen in the protein shake category as well?
Speaker #4: Yeah, I think that, yeah, there is a, as you guys see, this is a super dynamic category. I don't think it's ever been as dynamic as it is now.
Darcy Davenport: Yeah, I think that, there is, as you guys see, this is a super dynamic category. I don't think it's ever been as dynamic as it is now. So many, you know, new brands, new formats, kind of protein in everything. I think, we are, there will absolutely be some winners, and there will, there are gonna be some brands that we look back on and don't even remember their names. So, you know, I think that we are watching, we are paying attention, we are watching repeat rates. We are evaluating the kind of consumer metrics to see, and incrementality and interaction with our brands, to see if there are any that we think would be interesting, you know, add-ons to our business. We're always looking at both organic and inorganic growth.
Darcy Davenport: Yeah, I think that, there is, as you guys see, this is a super dynamic category. I don't think it's ever been as dynamic as it is now. So many, you know, new brands, new formats, kind of protein in everything. I think, we are, there will absolutely be some winners, and there will, there are gonna be some brands that we look back on and don't even remember their names. So, you know, I think that we are watching, we are paying attention, we are watching repeat rates. We are evaluating the kind of consumer metrics to see, and incrementality and interaction with our brands, to see if there are any that we think would be interesting, you know, add-ons to our business. We're always looking at both organic and inorganic growth.
Speaker #4: So many new brands, new formats, kinds of protein and everything—I think we are seeing there will absolutely be some winners, and there are going to be some brands that we look back on and don't even remember their names.
Speaker #4: So, I think that we are watching, we are paying attention. We are watching repeat rates. We are evaluating the kind of consumer metrics to see and incrementality and interaction with our brands to see if there are any that we think would be interesting add-ons to our business.
Speaker #4: We're always looking at both organic and inorganic growth. As far as a bigger something bigger, hey, I would just say in any dynamic category, there is always
Darcy Davenport: As far as, like, you know, a bigger, you know, something bigger, hey, I would just say, in any dynamic category, there is always opportunity.
As far as, like, you know, a bigger, you know, something bigger, hey, I would just say, in any dynamic category, there is always opportunity.
Speaker #4: opportunity. Okay.
Robert Moskow: Okay, thanks.
Robert Moskow: Okay, thanks.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes Thanks. from Steve Powers with Deutsche
Operator: Our next question comes from Steve Powers with Deutsche Bank.
Operator: Our next question comes from Steve Powers with Deutsche Bank.
Speaker #1: Bank. Great.
Steve Powers: Great. Good morning, Darcy, Paul, thanks. I wanted to pivot back to some of the innovation that you teased, Darcy, but from a slightly different perspective, and specifically, as you do things like envisioning these shakes with more protein and, more notably, the different drinking experience that you referenced. I'm just curious as to what extent you can leverage existing capacity for those initiatives, and any implications that may have on your ability to scale and distribute those new products quickly and smoothly, or any implications on up front profit margin contributions relative to the core? Thank you.
Steve Powers: Great. Good morning, Darcy, Paul, thanks. I wanted to pivot back to some of the innovation that you teased, Darcy, but from a slightly different perspective, and specifically, as you do things like envisioning these shakes with more protein and, more notably, the different drinking experience that you referenced. I'm just curious as to what extent you can leverage existing capacity for those initiatives, and any implications that may have on your ability to scale and distribute those new products quickly and smoothly, or any implications on up front profit margin contributions relative to the core? Thank you.
Speaker #12: Good morning, Darcy, Paul. Thanks. I wanted to pivot back to some of the innovation that ETs, Darcy, but from a slightly different perspective. And specifically, as you do things like envisioning new shakes with more protein and, more notably, the different drinking experience that you referenced, I'm just curious as to what extent you can leverage existing capacity for those initiatives.
Speaker #12: And any implications that may have on your ability to scale and distribute those new products quickly and smoothly? Or any implications on upfront profit margin contributions relative to the core?
Speaker #12: Thank
Speaker #12: you.
Darcy Davenport: So, this from a distribution standpoint... Well, let's go for capacity first, and I'm assuming you're talking about, you know, co-man capacity. It depends. So I think, you know, some of our innovation is absolutely leveraging our existing co-manufacturers, but some of our innovation is looking at new co-manufacturers. I think, you know, exciting for me is, you know, we have invested and built an incredibly strong operations function. We have, you know, a national network of co-mans. We know every single, you know, co-man that makes a protein-type product. And we have a, you know, a team that is really good at startups now. We've done a lot of them. So I think that some will use existing, some of them use new.
Speaker #4: So from a distribution standpoint—well, let's go for capacity first. And I'm assuming you're talking about co-man capacity. It depends. So, I think some of our innovation is absolutely leveraging our existing co-manufacturers.
Darcy Davenport: So, this from a distribution standpoint... Well, let's go for capacity first, and I'm assuming you're talking about, you know, co-man capacity. It depends. So I think, you know, some of our innovation is absolutely leveraging our existing co-manufacturers, but some of our innovation is looking at new co-manufacturers. I think, you know, exciting for me is, you know, we have invested and built an incredibly strong operations function. We have, you know, a national network of co-mans. We know every single, you know, co-man that makes a protein-type product. And we have a, you know, a team that is really good at startups now. We've done a lot of them. So I think that some will use existing, some of them use new.
Speaker #4: But some of our innovation is looking at new co-manufacturers. I think what is I think exciting for me is we have invested and built an incredibly strong operations function we have a national network of co-mans.
Speaker #4: We know every single co-man that makes a protein-type product. And so, we have a team that is really good at startups now. We've done a lot of them.
Speaker #4: So I think that so some will use existing; some of them use new. As far as distribution standpoint, we will use existing—well, use our existing distribution for all of the new products.
Darcy Davenport: As far as distribution standpoint, we'll use our, you know, existing distribution for all of the new products. I think as we, as we go down the path of, you know, working on kind of a DSD solution, obviously, we would be able to, you know, sell these products in, in those channels as well. But right now, we are all about using our existing distribution channels.
As far as distribution standpoint, we'll use our, you know, existing distribution for all of the new products. I think as we, as we go down the path of, you know, working on kind of a DSD solution, obviously, we would be able to, you know, sell these products in, in those channels as well. But right now, we are all about using our existing distribution channels.
Speaker #4: I think as we go down the path of working on kind of a DSD solution, obviously, that would—we would be able to sell these products in those channels as well.
Speaker #4: But right now, we are all about using our existing distribution channels.
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from John Baumgartner with Mizuho Securities.
Operator: Our next question comes from John Baumgartner with Mizuho Securities.
Operator: Our next question comes from John Baumgartner with Mizuho Securities.
Speaker #13: Good morning. Thanks for the question. Darcy, I'd like to stick with innovation. Historically, Premier has focused on flavors and its broadening now to protein content and these differentiated experiences you mentioned.
John Baumgartner: ... Good morning. Thanks for the question. Darcy, I'd like to stick with innovation. You know, historically, Premier has focused on flavors, and it's broadening now to protein content and these differentiated experiences you mentioned. But, you know, given your core consumer is this everyday type of consumer, rather than someone who's maybe looking for something specialized or premium priced, how do you think about the incrementality of this forthcoming slate of innovation relative to cannibalization of the baseline? And then, by product line, you mentioned the focus this year is support of Coffeehouse. To what extent do you plan to continue investing behind Indulgence, or is Indulgence sort of de-emphasized here as you support these two new lines or platforms? Thank you.
John Baumgartner: ... Good morning. Thanks for the question. Darcy, I'd like to stick with innovation. You know, historically, Premier has focused on flavors, and it's broadening now to protein content and these differentiated experiences you mentioned. But, you know, given your core consumer is this everyday type of consumer, rather than someone who's maybe looking for something specialized or premium priced, how do you think about the incrementality of this forthcoming slate of innovation relative to cannibalization of the baseline? And then, by product line, you mentioned the focus this year is support of Coffeehouse. To what extent do you plan to continue investing behind Indulgence, or is Indulgence sort of de-emphasized here as you support these two new lines or platforms? Thank you.
Speaker #13: But given your core consumer is this everyday type of consumer, rather than someone who's maybe looking for something specialized or premium-priced, how do you think about the incrementality of this forthcoming slate of innovation relative to cannibalization of the baseline?
Speaker #13: And then by product line, you mentioned the focus this year is support of coffee house. To what extent do you plan to continue investing behind indulgence?
Speaker #13: Or is indulgence sort of the emphasized here as you support these two new lines or platforms? Thank
Speaker #13: You. I think the consumer is
Darcy Davenport: I think the consumer is evolving, so even the mainstream consumer. So I think this is where a portfolio is really helpful. So I think, you know, if you think of our 30-gram product, and all the different flavors are perfect for people just coming into the category, then they start evolving and start looking for different things. I think some of the new innovation that we're coming with goes after an incremental consumer as well as an incremental occasion. So again, our innovation strategy is very simple. It's all about incrementality. So from your second question, just about Coffeehouse and Indulgence, they're very different. So I think, you know, Indulgence has been very successful. And, you know, we just launched it a year ago. And it's been a strong, a strong contributor.
Darcy Davenport: I think the consumer is evolving, so even the mainstream consumer. So I think this is where a portfolio is really helpful. So I think, you know, if you think of our 30-gram product, and all the different flavors are perfect for people just coming into the category, then they start evolving and start looking for different things. I think some of the new innovation that we're coming with goes after an incremental consumer as well as an incremental occasion. So again, our innovation strategy is very simple. It's all about incrementality. So from your second question, just about Coffeehouse and Indulgence, they're very different. So I think, you know, Indulgence has been very successful. And, you know, we just launched it a year ago. And it's been a strong, a strong contributor.
Speaker #4: Evolving. So even the mainstream consumer—so I think this is where a portfolio is really helpful. I think if you think of our 30-gram product, all the different flavors are perfect for people just coming into the category.
Speaker #4: Then they start evolving, and start looking for different things. I think some of the new innovation that we're coming with goes after an incremental consumer as well as an incremental occasion.
Speaker #4: So again, our innovation strategy is very simple. It's all about incrementality. So from your second question, just about coffee house and indulgence, they're very different.
Speaker #4: So I think Indulgence has been very successful, and we just launched it a year ago. And it's been a strong contributor, and it has really been mostly around incremental occasions.
Darcy Davenport: And it is really been mostly around incremental occasions. I think, you know, Coffeehouse is unique because it has. It's kind of, you know, flirting with the energy category a little bit with the caffeine equivalent of a cup of coffee. We've had a lot of success with café latte. This is kind of taking that, but running with it. So no, they have two distinct positions within our portfolio, and actually very little overlap.
And it is really been mostly around incremental occasions. I think, you know, Coffeehouse is unique because it has. It's kind of, you know, flirting with the energy category a little bit with the caffeine equivalent of a cup of coffee. We've had a lot of success with café latte. This is kind of taking that, but running with it. So no, they have two distinct positions within our portfolio, and actually very little overlap.
Speaker #4: I think Coffee House is unique, because it has its kind of flirting with the energy category a little bit, with the caffeine equivalent of a cup of coffee.
Speaker #4: We've had a lot of success with Café Latte. This is kind of taking that but running with it. So no, they have two distinct positions within our portfolio and actually very little overlap.
Speaker #13: Okay. Thanks,
John Baumgartner: Okay. Thanks, Darcy.
John Baumgartner: Okay. Thanks, Darcy.
Speaker #13: Darcy. That concludes today's
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