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Q4 2025 LyondellBasell Industries Earnings Call
Operator: Hello, and welcome to the LyondellBasell teleconference. At the request of LyondellBasell, this conference is being recorded for instant replay purposes. Following today's presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. David Kinney, Head of Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin.
Operator: Hello, and welcome to the LyondellBasell teleconference. At the request of LyondellBasell, this conference is being recorded for instant replay purposes. Following today's presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. David Kinney, Head of Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin.
Speaker #1: Hello, and welcome to the LyondellBasell teleconference. At the request of LyondellBasell, this conference is being recorded for instant replay purposes. Following today's presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session.
Speaker #1: I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. David Kinney, Head of Investor Relations. Sir, you may proceed.
Speaker #1: begin. Thank you,
David Kinney: Thank you, operator. Before we begin the discussion, I would like to point out that a slide presentation accompanies today's call and is available on our website at investors.lyondellbasell.com. Today, we will be discussing our business results while making reference to some forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial measures. We believe the forward-looking statements are based upon reasonable assumptions, and the alternative measures are useful to investors. Nonetheless, the forward-looking statements are subject to significant risk and uncertainty. We encourage you to learn more about the factors that could lead our actual results to differ by reviewing the cautionary statements in the presentation slides and our regulatory filings, which are also available on our investor relations website. Comments made on this call will be in regard to our underlying business results using non-GAAP financial measures such as EBITDA and earnings per share, excluding identified items.
David Kinney: Thank you, operator. Before we begin the discussion, I would like to point out that a slide presentation accompanies today's call and is available on our website at investors.lyondellbasell.com. Today, we will be discussing our business results while making reference to some forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial measures. We believe the forward-looking statements are based upon reasonable assumptions, and the alternative measures are useful to investors. Nonetheless, the forward-looking statements are subject to significant risk and uncertainty. We encourage you to learn more about the factors that could lead our actual results to differ by reviewing the cautionary statements in the presentation slides and our regulatory filings, which are also available on our investor relations website.
Speaker #2: Operator: Before we begin the discussion, I would like to point out that a slide presentation accompanies today's call and is available on our website at investors.lyondellbasell.com.
Speaker #2: Today, we will be discussing our business results while making reference to some forward-looking statements and non-GAAP financial measures. Upon reasonable assumptions and the alternative, we believe the forward-looking statements are based, and the measures are useful to investors.
Speaker #2: Nonetheless, the forward-looking statements are subject to significant risk and uncertainty. We encourage you to learn more about the factors that could lead our actual results to differ by reviewing the cautionary statements in the presentation slides and our regulatory filings, which are also available on our Investor Relations website.
Comments made on this call will be in regard to our underlying business results using non-GAAP financial measures such as EBITDA and earnings per share, excluding identified items. Additional documents on our investor website provide reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures, together with other disclosures, including the earnings release and our business results discussion. A recording of this call will be available by telephone beginning at 1:00 PM Eastern Time today until 2 March, by calling 877-660-6853 in the United States, and 201-612-7415 outside the United States. The access code for both numbers is 13746215.
Speaker #2: Comments made on this call will be in regard to our underlying business results using non-GAAP financial measures, such as EBITDA and earnings per share excluding identified items.
Speaker #2: Additional documents on our investor website provide reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures, together with other information.
David Kinney: Additional documents on our investor website provide reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures, together with other disclosures, including the earnings release and our business results discussion. A recording of this call will be available by telephone beginning at 1:00 PM Eastern Time today until 2 March, by calling 877-660-6853 in the United States, and 201-612-7415 outside the United States. The access code for both numbers is 13746215. Joining today's call will be Peter Vanacker, LyondellBasell’s Chief Executive Officer, our CFO, Agustin Izquierdo, Kim Foley, our Executive Vice President of Global Olefins and Polyolefins, Aaron Ledet, our EVP of Intermediates and Derivatives, and Torkel Rhenman, our EVP of Advanced Polymer Solutions.
Speaker #1: Other including the earnings release and our business results discussion disclosures , A . this call will recording of beginning at 1 p.m. eastern time today , beginning at 1 p.m.
Speaker #1: You may access the replay until today, March 2nd, by calling (877) 660-6853 in the United States and (201) 612-7415 outside the United States. The access code for both numbers is 13746215.
Joining today's call will be Peter Vanacker, LyondellBasell’s Chief Executive Officer, our CFO, Agustin Izquierdo, Kim Foley, our Executive Vice President of Global Olefins and Polyolefins, Aaron Ledet, our EVP of Intermediates and Derivatives, and Torkel Rhenman, our EVP of Advanced Polymer Solutions. During today's call, we will focus on Q4 and full-year 2025 results and progress on our strategic initiatives. We will also discuss current market dynamics and our near-term outlook. With that being said, I would now like to turn the call over to Peter.
Speaker #1: Joining today's call will be Peter Vanacker Lindell , chief Executive officer Our CFO , Agustin Izquierdo Kim Foley , our executive vice president and global olefins and polyolefins Aaron Ledet , our EVP intermediates and of derivatives and Torkel Rhenman , our EVP of Advanced Polymer Solutions During .
David Kinney: During today's call, we will focus on Q4 and full-year 2025 results and progress on our strategic initiatives. We will also discuss current market dynamics and our near-term outlook. With that being said, I would now like to turn the call over to Peter.
Speaker #1: Today's call, we will focus on fourth quarter and full year 2025 results, our progress on strategic initiatives, and we will also discuss current market dynamics and our near-term outlook.
Speaker #1: With that being said , I would turn the now like to call over to Peter . Thank you , Dave , and welcome to all of you .
Peter Vanacker: Thank you, Dave, and welcome to all of you. We appreciate you joining us today as we discuss our Q4 and full year 2025 results. I am proud of our people and how they continue to navigate the cycle in 2025, while maintaining focus on our long-term strategy, despite some of the most challenging market conditions I have seen in my career. The team delivered exceptional results in our Cash Improvement Plan, while keeping safe and reliable operations at the center of everything we do. So with that in mind, let's begin, as we always do, with our safety results on slide 3. LyondellBasell delivered exceptional safety performance in 2025. Our total recordable incident rate reached a historic low, slightly surpassing even our record-setting performance in 2022, making 2025 the safest year in our company's history.
Peter Vanacker: Thank you, Dave, and welcome to all of you. We appreciate you joining us today as we discuss our Q4 and full year 2025 results. I am proud of our people and how they continue to navigate the cycle in 2025, while maintaining focus on our long-term strategy, despite some of the most challenging market conditions I have seen in my career. The team delivered exceptional results in our Cash Improvement Plan, while keeping safe and reliable operations at the center of everything we do. So with that in mind, let's begin, as we always do, with our safety results on slide 3. LyondellBasell delivered exceptional safety performance in 2025. Our total recordable incident rate reached a historic low, slightly surpassing even our record-setting performance in 2022, making 2025 the safest year in our company's history.
Speaker #1: We appreciate you today. As joining us, we discuss our fourth quarter and full year 2025 results. I am proud of our people and how they navigate the cycle, continue to in 2025.
Speaker #1: While maintaining focus on our long-term strategy, despite some of the most challenging market conditions I have seen in my career, the team delivered exceptional results in our cash improvement plan while keeping safe and reliable operations at the center of everything we do.
Speaker #1: with that in So mind , let's we begin . As always do our safety results with on slide three , LyondellBasell delivered exceptional safety performance in 2025 .
Speaker #1: Our total recordable incident rate reached a historic low, slightly surpassing even our record-setting performance in 2022, making 2025 the safest year in our company's history.
Peter Vanacker: These results are especially meaningful given the significant volume of maintenance and turnaround activity we executed across our sites in 2025 in Europe and the US. Despite this elevated activity, our teams demonstrated operational excellence and an unwavering commitment to safety, even under challenging conditions. Safety remains our top priority. This consistent industry-leading safety performance reflects the discipline and care our employees and contractors bring to every aspect of our operations. I want to thank everyone across the organization for their dedication in keeping our colleagues and communities safe. Now, let's turn to slide 4. As we navigate one of, if not the longest downturn in our industry, LyondellBasell continues to execute on our 3-pillar strategy in a way that creates and protects value, even when this means adjusting the timing for implementing our plans. In our first strategic pillar, we continue to grow and upgrade the core.
These results are especially meaningful given the significant volume of maintenance and turnaround activity we executed across our sites in 2025 in Europe and the US. Despite this elevated activity, our teams demonstrated operational excellence and an unwavering commitment to safety, even under challenging conditions. Safety remains our top priority. This consistent industry-leading safety performance reflects the discipline and care our employees and contractors bring to every aspect of our operations. I want to thank everyone across the organization for their dedication in keeping our colleagues and communities safe. Now, let's turn to slide 4. As we navigate one of, if not the longest downturn in our industry, LyondellBasell continues to execute on our 3-pillar strategy in a way that creates and protects value, even when this means adjusting the timing for implementing our plans. In our first strategic pillar, we continue to grow and upgrade the core.
Speaker #1: These results are especially meaningful given the significant volume of maintenance and turnaround activity we executed across our sites in 2025, in Europe and the US.
Speaker #1: Despite this elevated activity, our teams demonstrated operational excellence and an unwavering commitment to safety, even in challenging conditions. Safety remains our top priority.
Speaker #1: This consistent , industry leading safety performance reflects the discipline and care our employees and contractors bring to every aspect of our operations . I thank everyone across the want to organization for the dedication in keeping our colleagues and communities safe .
Speaker #1: let's Now turn to slide four . As we navigate one off . If not the longest downturn in our industry . LyondellBasell continues to execute on our three pillar way that strategy in a creates and protects value , even when this means adjusting the timing for implementing our plans .
Speaker #1: In our first strategic pillar, we continue to grow and upgrade the core. In 2025, we safe prioritized and reliable operations.
Peter Vanacker: In 2025, we prioritized safe and reliable operations. We advanced our portfolio transformation with material progress on the divestment of four European assets, which is on track for completion in Q2 of 2026. We also moved forward on strengthening our cost advantage position in the Middle East with a new allocation for cost-advantaged feedstocks in Saudi Arabia. In our second pillar, we're building a profitable circular and low-carbon solutions business. Construction on MoReTec One is progressing well and is on track for a 2027 startup. We're also advocating for supportive policy frameworks, which will enable the successful and profitable transformation of our industry, while we executed on low-cost and no-cost energy efficiency initiatives across our sites. In our third pillar, we're stepping up performance and culture. Our team is laser-focused on value and cash generation.
In 2025, we prioritized safe and reliable operations. We advanced our portfolio transformation with material progress on the divestment of four European assets, which is on track for completion in Q2 of 2026. We also moved forward on strengthening our cost advantage position in the Middle East with a new allocation for cost-advantaged feedstocks in Saudi Arabia. In our second pillar, we're building a profitable circular and low-carbon solutions business. Construction on MoReTec One is progressing well and is on track for a 2027 startup. We're also advocating for supportive policy frameworks, which will enable the successful and profitable transformation of our industry, while we executed on low-cost and no-cost energy efficiency initiatives across our sites. In our third pillar, we're stepping up performance and culture. Our team is laser-focused on value and cash generation.
Speaker #1: We advanced our portfolio transformation with material progress on the divestment of four European assets, which track for completion in the second quarter of 2026.
Speaker #1: We also moved forward our cost-strengthening advantage position in the Middle East with a new allocation for cost-advantaged feedstocks in Saudi Arabia.
Speaker #1: our second In pillar , we're building a profitable circular and low carbon solutions business . Construction on Moreton is progressing and is well on track for a 2027 start up .
Speaker #1: We're also advocating for supportive policy frameworks , which will enable the successful and profitable transformation of our industry . While we executed on low cost and no energy cost efficiency initiatives across our sites , in our third pillar , we're stepping up performance and culture laser team is .
Speaker #1: Focused on value and our generation. I'm pleased to report that the Value Enhancement Program exceeded our original target and achieved $1.1 billion of recurring annual EBITDA in 2025.
Peter Vanacker: I'm pleased to report that the Value Enhancement Program exceeded our original target and achieved $1.1 billion of recurring annual EBITDA in 2025. This program has been a critical enabler of our cash improvement and cost discipline efforts, helping offset inflation, improve reliability, and fund profitable growth. Building on this momentum, we are extending the Value Enhancement Program and targeting $1.5 billion of recurring annual EBITDA by 2028. Importantly, these recurring earnings are based on mid-cycle margins and operating rates. We expect the benefits of the Value Enhancement Program will become more prominent once volumes and margins recover from this prolonged downturn. Given the current market environment, we have focused our investments on the immediately profitable projects aligned with our long-term commitments, and we are reviewing the timing of achieving certain 2030 sustainability goals.
I'm pleased to report that the Value Enhancement Program exceeded our original target and achieved $1.1 billion of recurring annual EBITDA in 2025. This program has been a critical enabler of our cash improvement and cost discipline efforts, helping offset inflation, improve reliability, and fund profitable growth. Building on this momentum, we are extending the Value Enhancement Program and targeting $1.5 billion of recurring annual EBITDA by 2028. Importantly, these recurring earnings are based on mid-cycle margins and operating rates. We expect the benefits of the Value Enhancement Program will become more prominent once volumes and margins recover from this prolonged downturn. Given the current market environment, we have focused our investments on the immediately profitable projects aligned with our long-term commitments, and we are reviewing the timing of achieving certain 2030 sustainability goals.
Speaker #1: This program has been a critical enabler of our improvements and cost discipline efforts, helping offset inflation, improve reliability, and fund profitable growth.
Speaker #1: Building on this momentum, we are extending the Value Enhancement Program and targeting $1.5 billion of annual recurring EBITDA by 2028. Importantly, these recurring earnings are based on mid-cycle margins and operating rates.
Speaker #1: expect the We benefits of the value enhancement program will become more prominent once volumes and margins recover from this prolonged downturn . Given the current market environment , we have investments focused our on the immediately profitable projects aligned with our term long commitments , and we are reviewing the timing of achieving certain 2030 sustainability goals .
Peter Vanacker: We have also materially reduced our capital expenditure plans for circular solutions and prioritized markets that provide supportive regulation and resilient, proven demand, such as Europe. We will update the market on our progress over the coming months, including the April publication of our 2025 sustainability report. Even as we accelerate select initiatives and adapt the timing of others, our strategic priorities remain intact. Our disciplined execution positions us to capture substantial value once the cycle turns, and we remain confident in our ability to deliver sustainable growth for our stakeholders. Let's turn to slide 5 and take a moment to reflect on where LYB and the industry were in the current cycle. 2025 was another exceptionally challenging year, with industry margins remaining deeply depressed across all of our core businesses.
We have also materially reduced our capital expenditure plans for circular solutions and prioritized markets that provide supportive regulation and resilient, proven demand, such as Europe. We will update the market on our progress over the coming months, including the April publication of our 2025 sustainability report. Even as we accelerate select initiatives and adapt the timing of others, our strategic priorities remain intact. Our disciplined execution positions us to capture substantial value once the cycle turns, and we remain confident in our ability to deliver sustainable growth for our stakeholders. Let's turn to slide 5 and take a moment to reflect on where LYB and the industry were in the current cycle. 2025 was another exceptionally challenging year, with industry margins remaining deeply depressed across all of our core businesses.
Speaker #1: We have also materially reduced our capital expenditure plans for circular solutions and prioritized markets that provide regulation and resilient, proven demand, supportive such as Europe.
Speaker #1: will We update the market on our progress over the coming months , including the April publication of our 2025 Sustainability Report . Even as we accelerate , select initiatives and adapt the timing of others , our strategic priorities remain intact .
Speaker #1: Our disciplined execution positions us to capture substantial value once the cycle turns, and we remain confident in our ability to deliver sustainable growth for our company.
Speaker #1: Let's have stakeholders turn to slide five and take a moment to reflect on where Lyb and the industry are in the current cycle.
Speaker #1: 2025 was another exceptionally challenging year, with industry margins remaining deeply depressed across all of our core businesses. In this, margins were approximately 45% below historical averages.
Peter Vanacker: Industry margins were approximately 45% below historical averages, even worse than the already difficult conditions we saw in 2024. In North America, polyolefins margins reached their lowest levels in more than a decade. This margin erosion has weighed heavily on LYB and the entire sector. Several factors are pressuring margins. These include global trade disruptions, low demand for durable goods, a lower oil-to-gas ratio, ongoing global capacity additions, and in Europe, increased competition from imports and structurally higher energy costs. Even under these conditions, LyondellBasell continues to generate positive free cash flow at the bottom of the cycle. While the environment remains tough, the market is responding with an increasing rate of capacity rationalization, which is accelerating the rebalancing of supply and demand.
Industry margins were approximately 45% below historical averages, even worse than the already difficult conditions we saw in 2024. In North America, polyolefins margins reached their lowest levels in more than a decade. This margin erosion has weighed heavily on LYB and the entire sector. Several factors are pressuring margins. These include global trade disruptions, low demand for durable goods, a lower oil-to-gas ratio, ongoing global capacity additions, and in Europe, increased competition from imports and structurally higher energy costs. Even under these conditions, LyondellBasell continues to generate positive free cash flow at the bottom of the cycle. While the environment remains tough, the market is responding with an increasing rate of capacity rationalization, which is accelerating the rebalancing of supply and demand.
Speaker #1: Even worse than the already difficult saw conditions in 2020, we saw, for in North America, polyolefins margins reached their lowest levels in more than a decade.
Speaker #1: This margin erosion has weighed heavily on Lyb and the entire sector . Several factors are pressuring margins . These include global trade disruptions , low demand for durable goods , a lower oil gas ratio , ongoing global capacity additions , and in Europe , increased competition from imports and structurally higher energy costs .
Speaker #1: Even under these conditions , LyondellBasell continues to generate positive free cash flow at the bottom of the cycle . While the environment remains tough market is responding with an , the increasing rate of capacity rationalization , which is accelerating the rebalancing of supply and demand .
Peter Vanacker: Once margins begin to normalize, LYB is well-positioned to capture significant upside, supported by our low-cost positions, world-class technologies, and a disciplined approach to generating value and cash. Let's now turn to slide 6 to discuss our 2025 full year highlights. Despite this backdrop of weak margins, our teams remained disciplined and focused on the actions within our control. We generated $2.3 billion of cash from operations during the year. This performance reflects strong working capital discipline, focused cost management, and our ability to operate safely and reliably through a prolonged industry downturn. Our excellent cash conversion ratio of 95% illustrates the resilience of our operating model and the additional focus provided by the Cash Improvement Plan, even in an environment of compressed spreads. Full year earnings were $1.70 per diluted share, and EBITDA totaled $2.5 billion.
Once margins begin to normalize, LYB is well-positioned to capture significant upside, supported by our low-cost positions, world-class technologies, and a disciplined approach to generating value and cash. Let's now turn to slide 6 to discuss our 2025 full year highlights. Despite this backdrop of weak margins, our teams remained disciplined and focused on the actions within our control. We generated $2.3 billion of cash from operations during the year. This performance reflects strong working capital discipline, focused cost management, and our ability to operate safely and reliably through a prolonged industry downturn. Our excellent cash conversion ratio of 95% illustrates the resilience of our operating model and the additional focus provided by the Cash Improvement Plan, even in an environment of compressed spreads. Full year earnings were $1.70 per diluted share, and EBITDA totaled $2.5 billion.
Speaker #1: Once margins begin to normalize , Lyb is well positioned to capture significant upside supported by our low cost positions . World class technologies and a disciplined approach to generating and value cash .
Speaker #1: Let's now turn to slide six to discuss our 2025 full year highlights. Despite this backdrop of weak, our margins teams remained disciplined and focused on the actions within our control.
Speaker #1: We generated operations during the year. This $2.3 billion of cash from performance reflects strong working capital discipline, focused cost management, and our ability to operate safely and reliably through a prolonged industry downturn.
Speaker #1: Our excellent cash conversion ratio of 95% illustrates the resilience of our operating model and the additional focus provided by the cash improvement plan. Even in an environment of compressed spreads, full-year earnings were $1.70 per diluted share and EBITDA totaled $2.5 billion.
Peter Vanacker: Throughout the year, we remained focused on maintaining financial flexibility, prioritizing safe and reliable operations, and low-cost investments in VEP projects, while preserving the ability to pursue selective investments in high-value growth once cash flows improve. And we will continue to maintain strong capital discipline to ensure we're making the right decisions for the long-term strength of our company and all stakeholders. Now, with that, I'll turn it over to Agustin to walk through our 2025 achievements in the Cash Improvement Plan.
Throughout the year, we remained focused on maintaining financial flexibility, prioritizing safe and reliable operations, and low-cost investments in VEP projects, while preserving the ability to pursue selective investments in high-value growth once cash flows improve. And we will continue to maintain strong capital discipline to ensure we're making the right decisions for the long-term strength of our company and all stakeholders. Now, with that, I'll turn it over to Agustin to walk through our 2025 achievements in the Cash Improvement Plan.
Speaker #1: Throughout the year , we remain focused on maintaining financial flexibility , prioritizing safe and reliable operations , and low cost investments in VEP projects while preserving the ability to selective investments in high value pursue growth .
Speaker #1: Once cash flows improve, we will continue to maintain strong capital discipline to ensure we're making the right decisions for the long-term strength of our company and all stakeholders.
Speaker #1: Now , with that , I'll turn it over to Agustin to walk through achievements in the cash improvement plan . Absolutely . Peter , and .
Agustin Izquierdo: Absolutely, Peter, and good morning again, everyone. Let's continue with slide 7. Our disciplined execution throughout 2025 enabled us to surpass our initial targets for the Cash Improvement Plan. We set a goal to conserve $600 million of cash relative to our 2025 plan, and we exceeded that goal by roughly $200 million to achieve $800 million. This outperformance was driven by a $400 million reduction in working capital relative to our 2025 plan. We also reduced our global workforce by 7%, or approximately 1,350 employees, to the lowest levels the company has seen since 2018. Capital spending remained disciplined as we took advantage of opportunities to realign project schedules across the portfolio.
Agustin Izquierdo: Absolutely, Peter, and good morning again, everyone. Let's continue with slide 7. Our disciplined execution throughout 2025 enabled us to surpass our initial targets for the Cash Improvement Plan. We set a goal to conserve $600 million of cash relative to our 2025 plan, and we exceeded that goal by roughly $200 million to achieve $800 million. This outperformance was driven by a $400 million reduction in working capital relative to our 2025 plan. We also reduced our global workforce by 7%, or approximately 1,350 employees, to the lowest levels the company has seen since 2018. Capital spending remained disciplined as we took advantage of opportunities to realign project schedules across the portfolio.
Speaker #2: Good morning again , everyone . Let's continue with slide seven . Our disciplined execution throughout 2025 . Enabled us to surpass our initial targets for the cash improvement plan .
Speaker #2: We set a goal to conserve $600 million of cash relative to our plan. And in 2025, we exceeded that goal by roughly $200 million.
Speaker #2: To achieve $800 million . This outperformance was driven by a $400 million reduction in working capital , relative to our 2025 plan . We also reduced our global workforce by 7% , or approximately 1350 employees , to the lowest levels .
Speaker #2: The company has seen, since 2018, capital spending remained disciplined as we took advantage of opportunities to realign project schedules across the portfolio while we achieved our capital reduction goals on an accrued basis. Cash realization, though, lagged due to the timing of payments.
Agustin Izquierdo: While we achieved our capital reduction goals on an accrued basis, cash realization lagged due to the timing of payments. Our teams executed on these priorities while maintaining focus on safe and reliable operations, reinforcing the culture of value creation we have been building over the past several years. Looking ahead, we expect to deliver an additional $500 million of incremental cash in 2026 relative to 2025 actuals. This increases the cumulative target for our Cash Improvement Plan from $1.1 billion to $1.3 billion through the end of 2026. We are not considering any potential benefits from our European asset sale in these numbers.
While we achieved our capital reduction goals on an accrued basis, cash realization lagged due to the timing of payments. Our teams executed on these priorities while maintaining focus on safe and reliable operations, reinforcing the culture of value creation we have been building over the past several years. Looking ahead, we expect to deliver an additional $500 million of incremental cash in 2026 relative to 2025 actuals. This increases the cumulative target for our Cash Improvement Plan from $1.1 billion to $1.3 billion through the end of 2026. We are not considering any potential benefits from our European asset sale in these numbers.
Speaker #2: Our teams executed on these priorities while maintaining focus on reliable, safe operations, reinforcing the culture of value creation we have been building over the past several years.
Speaker #2: Looking ahead, we expect to deliver an additional $500 million of incremental cash in 2026 relative to 2025 actuals. This increases the cumulative target cash improvement plan for our company from $1.1 billion to $1.3 billion through the end of 2026.
Speaker #2: We are not considering any potential from our benefits European asset sale in these numbers. This higher target reflects not only the strong progress we delivered in 2025, but also cost efficiencies.
Agustin Izquierdo: This higher target reflects not only the strong progress we delivered in 2025, but also cost efficiencies we expect to achieve in 2026, and the lower capital expenditure plans, which we have already announced. These efforts strengthen our ability to generate cash through the bottom of the cycle while protecting our financial flexibility and liquidity. Moving on to Slide 8, I will review the details of our capital allocation. Maintaining an investment-grade balance sheet remains foundational to our capital allocation strategy. During 2025, we generated $2.3 billion from operating activities, supported by strong working capital execution, which released over $1 billion in working capital during the Q4 alone. This strong performance enabled us to sustain excellent cash conversion, even at the bottom of the cycle....
This higher target reflects not only the strong progress we delivered in 2025, but also cost efficiencies we expect to achieve in 2026, and the lower capital expenditure plans, which we have already announced. These efforts strengthen our ability to generate cash through the bottom of the cycle while protecting our financial flexibility and liquidity. Moving on to Slide 8, I will review the details of our capital allocation. Maintaining an investment-grade balance sheet remains foundational to our capital allocation strategy. During 2025, we generated $2.3 billion from operating activities, supported by strong working capital execution, which released over $1 billion in working capital during the Q4 alone. This strong performance enabled us to sustain excellent cash conversion, even at the bottom of the cycle....
Speaker #2: We expect to achieve in And the 2026 . lower capital expenditure plans , which already we have announced . efforts strengthen These our ability to generate cash through the bottom of the cycle , while protecting our financial flexibility and liquidity .
Speaker #2: Moving on to slide eight. I will review the details of our capital allocation. Maintaining an investment grade balance sheet remains foundational to our capital allocation strategy.
Speaker #2: During 2025, we generated $2.3 billion from operating activities, supported by strong working capital execution, which released over $1 billion in working capital during the fourth quarter alone.
Speaker #2: This strong performance enabled us to sustain excellent cash conversion even at the bottom of the cycle. We also took proactive steps to preserve liquidity, including issuing $1.5 billion in bonds to help address 2026 and 2027 maturities.
Agustin Izquierdo: We also took proactive steps to preserve liquidity, including issuing $1.5 billion in bonds to help address 2026 and 2027 maturities. As a result, we ended the year with $3.4 billion of cash and short-term investments, and $8.1 billion of available liquidity. Throughout the year, we prioritized safe and reliable operations while advancing strategic growth projects like MoReTec One, and low- to no-cost projects in the Value Enhancement Program, while appropriately realigning other growth investments in response to current market conditions. As markets recover, we will be ready to advance an attractive portfolio of opportunities, including Flex II to balance olefin production, MoReTec Two to expand our circularity capabilities at the former Houston refinery site, and cost-advantaged investments in the Middle East.
We also took proactive steps to preserve liquidity, including issuing $1.5 billion in bonds to help address 2026 and 2027 maturities. As a result, we ended the year with $3.4 billion of cash and short-term investments, and $8.1 billion of available liquidity. Throughout the year, we prioritized safe and reliable operations while advancing strategic growth projects like MoReTec One, and low- to no-cost projects in the Value Enhancement Program, while appropriately realigning other growth investments in response to current market conditions. As markets recover, we will be ready to advance an attractive portfolio of opportunities, including Flex II to balance olefin production, MoReTec Two to expand our circularity capabilities at the former Houston refinery site, and cost-advantaged investments in the Middle East.
Speaker #2: As a result, we ended the year with $3.4 billion of cash and short-term investments and $8.1 billion of available liquidity throughout the year.
Speaker #2: We prioritized safe and reliable operations while advancing strategic growth projects like MoRe.Technology and low- to no-cost projects in the Value Enhancement Program.
Speaker #2: While appropriately realigning other growth investments in response to current market conditions . As markets recover , we will be ready to advance an attractive portfolio of opportunities , including flex two to balance olefin production , More.take two to expand our circularity capabilities at the former Houston site refinery cost advantaged and investments Middle in the East .
Agustin Izquierdo: In addition, the positive impact from completed VEP projects is expected to grow once sector margins and operating rates recover. We continue to provide cash returns to shareholders, returning $2 billion in the form of dividends and share repurchases during 2025. Our capital allocation strategy aims to preserve flexibility while positioning LyondellBasell to unlock value as industry conditions improve. On slide 9, we highlight the cash performance from our business during 2025. One of the strongest indicators of our resilience is our ability to consistently generate cash from operations, even at the bottom of the cycle. In 2025, LyondellBasell delivered $2.3 billion of cash from operating activities. Our cash conversion ratio remained exceptionally strong at 95%, well above our long-term target of 80%.
In addition, the positive impact from completed VEP projects is expected to grow once sector margins and operating rates recover. We continue to provide cash returns to shareholders, returning $2 billion in the form of dividends and share repurchases during 2025. Our capital allocation strategy aims to preserve flexibility while positioning LyondellBasell to unlock value as industry conditions improve. On slide 9, we highlight the cash performance from our business during 2025. One of the strongest indicators of our resilience is our ability to consistently generate cash from operations, even at the bottom of the cycle. In 2025, LyondellBasell delivered $2.3 billion of cash from operating activities. Our cash conversion ratio remained exceptionally strong at 95%, well above our long-term target of 80%.
Speaker #2: In addition, the positive from completed projects is expected to grow once sector margins and rates operating recover. And we provide cash, continue to return to shareholders, returning $2 billion in the form of dividends and share repurchases during 2025.
Speaker #2: Our capital allocation strategy aims to preserve flexibility while positioning LyondellBasell to unlock value as industry conditions improve. On slide nine, we highlight the cash performance from our business during 2025.
Speaker #2: One of the strongest indicators of our ability to consistently generate cash from resilience is even at operations, the bottom of the cycle.
Speaker #2: In 2025, LyondellBasell delivered operating activities. Our cash conversion ratio remained exceptionally strong at above our long-term target of 95%, well above the target of 80%. We generated $2.3 billion of cash.
Agustin Izquierdo: We achieved this level of conversion through strong cost control across all segments, tightly managing receivables and inventories while pacing maintenance where appropriate, to help ensure that earnings efficiently translated into cash, even with lower operating rates. This consistent cash performance positions us well to fund essential investments in maintenance and advance critical projects while remaining ready to accelerate strategic value creation once margin begins to recover. Now, let's turn to slide 10 for an overview of our Q4 segment results. In total, our business delivered $417 million of EBITDA during the Q4. Across most segments, we saw the typical year and seasonal pressure on volumes, coupled with elevated costs for feedstocks and energy. Maintenance downtime contributed to lower operating rates in both our US and European operations.
We achieved this level of conversion through strong cost control across all segments, tightly managing receivables and inventories while pacing maintenance where appropriate, to help ensure that earnings efficiently translated into cash, even with lower operating rates. This consistent cash performance positions us well to fund essential investments in maintenance and advance critical projects while remaining ready to accelerate strategic value creation once margin begins to recover. Now, let's turn to slide 10 for an overview of our Q4 segment results. In total, our business delivered $417 million of EBITDA during the Q4. Across most segments, we saw the typical year and seasonal pressure on volumes, coupled with elevated costs for feedstocks and energy. Maintenance downtime contributed to lower operating rates in both our US and European operations.
Speaker #2: We achieved this level of conversion through strong cost control across all segments , tightly managing receivables and inventories while . maintenance Where facing appropriate , to ensure help that earnings efficiently translated into cash .
Speaker #2: Even with lower operating rates, this consistent cash performance positions us to fund essential, as well as investments in maintenance and advanced critical projects, while remaining ready to accelerate strategic value creation once margin begins to recover.
Speaker #2: Now, let's turn to slide ten for an overview of our fourth quarter segment results. In total, our business delivered $417 million of EBITDA during the fourth quarter across most segments.
Speaker #2: We saw the typical year-end seasonal pressure on volumes, coupled with elevated costs for feedstocks and energy. Maintenance and lower operating rates contributed to downtime in both our US and European operations.
Agustin Izquierdo: Oxyfuels performance softened sequentially as margins trended downward from unusually strong levels toward the end of the third quarter, once industry outages eased and gasoline blend stock premiums normalized to typical winter levels. The fourth quarter included identified items of $61 million net of tax, primarily associated with closure costs for the Dutch joint venture and the APS Specialty Powders business. Across the portfolio, non-cash LIFO inventory valuation charges reduced fourth quarter results. These charges were partially offset by a reduction in bonus compensation accruals that benefited fourth quarter results. The net amount was quarterly impact of $52 million. As a reminder, our fourth quarter LIFO changes reflect movements in inventory valuation over the full year and are not necessarily linked to fourth quarter valuations. Before we review our segment-level results in detail, let me discuss our capital expenditure plans for 2026.
Oxyfuels performance softened sequentially as margins trended downward from unusually strong levels toward the end of the third quarter, once industry outages eased and gasoline blend stock premiums normalized to typical winter levels. The fourth quarter included identified items of $61 million net of tax, primarily associated with closure costs for the Dutch joint venture and the APS Specialty Powders business. Across the portfolio, non-cash LIFO inventory valuation charges reduced fourth quarter results. These charges were partially offset by a reduction in bonus compensation accruals that benefited fourth quarter results. The net amount was quarterly impact of $52 million.
Speaker #2: Oxyphils performance softened sequentially as margins trended downward from unusually strong levels toward the end of the third quarter . Once outages industry eased and gasoline blendstock premiums normalized to typical winter levels , the fourth quarter included identified items of $61 million , tax net of , primarily associated with closure costs for the joint venture and the APS specialty Powders business .
Speaker #2: Across the portfolio, LIFO noncash inventory valuation charges resulted in a reduced fourth quarter. These charges were partially offset by a reduction in bonus compensation accruals that benefited fourth quarter results. Amount was.
Speaker #2: impact of The net quarterly $52 million . As a reminder , for changes our reflect movements fourth quarter life inventory in valuation over the full year and necessarily are not fourth quarter valuations linked to .
As a reminder, our fourth quarter LIFO changes reflect movements in inventory valuation over the full year and are not necessarily linked to fourth quarter valuations. Before we review our segment-level results in detail, let me discuss our capital expenditure plans for 2026. As we've previously announced, we are deferring some growth investments until later in the decade, given the difficult operating environment. For 2026, we expect our CapEx will be approximately $1.2 billion. Our 2026 capital plan includes approximately $400 million for profitable growth and $800 million of sustaining investments. The reduced capital plan prioritizes safe and reliable operations and the ongoing construction of MoReTec One.
Speaker #2: review our Before we segment level results in detail , let me discuss our capital expenditure plans for 2026 we've previously . announced , As we are deferring some growth investments later in until decade .
Agustin Izquierdo: As we've previously announced, we are deferring some growth investments until later in the decade, given the difficult operating environment. For 2026, we expect our CapEx will be approximately $1.2 billion. Our 2026 capital plan includes approximately $400 million for profitable growth and $800 million of sustaining investments. The reduced capital plan prioritizes safe and reliable operations and the ongoing construction of MoReTec One. We expect our 2026 effective tax rate will be approximately 10%, with a cash tax rate approximately 10 percentage points higher than the effective tax rate. We have provided additional 2026 modeling information in the appendix to this slide deck, describing the expected impacts from major maintenance and other useful financial metrics. With that overview, I will turn the call over to Kim.
Speaker #2: Given the difficult operating environment for 2026, we expect our CapEx will be approximately $1.2 billion. Our plan 2026 capital includes approximately $400 million for profitable growth and $800 million of sustaining investments.
Speaker #2: The reduced capital plan safe prioritizes reliable operations and the ongoing construction of more tech. One, we expect our 2026 effective tax rate to be approximately 10%, with a cash tax rate that will be approximately ten percentage points higher than the effective tax rate.
We expect our 2026 effective tax rate will be approximately 10%, with a cash tax rate approximately 10 percentage points higher than the effective tax rate. We have provided additional 2026 modeling information in the appendix to this slide deck, describing the expected impacts from major maintenance and other useful financial metrics. With that overview, I will turn the call over to Kim.
Speaker #2: We have provided additional 2026 modeling information in the appendix to this slide deck, describing the expected impacts from major maintenance and other useful financial metrics.
Speaker #2: With that overview, I will turn the call over to Kim.
Kim Foley: Thank you, Agustin. Let's move to slide 11 and discuss the performance of the Olefins and Polyolefins Americas segment. Q4 EBITDA for the segment was $164 million, down from the prior quarter. The sequential decline was primarily driven by higher feedstock costs and lower polyethylene margins, as well as planned and unplanned maintenance across several sites. In Olefins, ethylene margins weakened as ethane and natural gas prices increased, coupled with lower ethylene and propylene prices. In polyethylene, planned and unplanned maintenance across several facilities and seasonally lower domestic demand contributed to lower volumes and pressured margins sequentially. Industry inventories fell roughly 3 days or 500 million pounds as customers continued to draw down stocks ahead of year-end. Polypropylene continues to face challenges with subdued demand and weak margins....
Kim Foley: Thank you, Agustin. Let's move to slide 11 and discuss the performance of the Olefins and Polyolefins Americas segment. Q4 EBITDA for the segment was $164 million, down from the prior quarter. The sequential decline was primarily driven by higher feedstock costs and lower polyethylene margins, as well as planned and unplanned maintenance across several sites. In Olefins, ethylene margins weakened as ethane and natural gas prices increased, coupled with lower ethylene and propylene prices. In polyethylene, planned and unplanned maintenance across several facilities and seasonally lower domestic demand contributed to lower volumes and pressured margins sequentially. Industry inventories fell roughly 3 days or 500 million pounds as customers continued to draw down stocks ahead of year-end. Polypropylene continues to face challenges with subdued demand and weak margins....
Speaker #3: Let's
Speaker #3: move to . Thank you slide 11 and discuss the of the olefins and polyolefins Americas performance segment . Fourth quarter EBITDA for the segment down from the was $164 million , quarter .
Speaker #3: The sequential decline, primarily driven by higher feedstock costs and lower polyethylene margins, as well as planned and unplanned maintenance across several sites in ethylene, margins weakened. Olefins, as natural gas prices increased.
Speaker #3: Coupled ethane and with lower ethylene and propylene prices in polyethylene, planned and unplanned maintenance across several facilities, and seasonally lower domestic demand contributed to lower volumes and pressured margins sequentially.
Speaker #3: Industry inventories fell roughly three days , as customers continued to draw down stocks ahead of year end or £500 million , . Polypropylene continues to face challenges , with subdued demand and weak margins .
Kim Foley: During the quarter, we successfully completed the turnaround at our Matagorda polyethylene plant and implemented reliability improvements at our Hyperzone plant. These actions strengthened our asset performance and position us to capture value as demand returns. Our fourth quarter operating rate for the segment was approximately 75%, with our crackers operating at approximately 90%. During the first quarter, we expect tight year-end inventories, reduced supply due to Winter Storm Fern, and stronger seasonal demand will all be supportive of our polyethylene price increase initiatives in the market. We expect to operate our O&P Americas assets at an average rate of approximately 85% in line with demand. Now let's turn to slide 12 and review the performance of our Olefins and Polyolefins, Europe, Asia, and International segment. Fourth quarter EBITDA was a loss of $61 million.
During the quarter, we successfully completed the turnaround at our Matagorda polyethylene plant and implemented reliability improvements at our Hyperzone plant. These actions strengthened our asset performance and position us to capture value as demand returns. Our fourth quarter operating rate for the segment was approximately 75%, with our crackers operating at approximately 90%. During the first quarter, we expect tight year-end inventories, reduced supply due to Winter Storm Fern, and stronger seasonal demand will all be supportive of our polyethylene price increase initiatives in the market. We expect to operate our O&P Americas assets at an average rate of approximately 85% in line with demand. Now let's turn to slide 12 and review the performance of our Olefins and Polyolefins, Europe, Asia, and International segment. Fourth quarter EBITDA was a loss of $61 million.
Speaker #3: During the quarter, we successfully turned around our completed polyethylene plant and implemented reliability improvements at our plant actions. These strengthened our asset performance and position us to capture value as demand returns.
Speaker #3: Our fourth quarter operating rate for the segment was approximately 75% . With our crackers operating at approximately 90% . During the first quarter , we expect tight year end inventories , reduced supply due to winter storm burn , and stronger seasonal demand will all be supportive of our polyethylene price increase .
Speaker #3: Initiatives in the market. We expect to operate Americas on average assets at or near 85%, in line with the demand rate of approximately.
Speaker #3: Now, let's turn to slide 12 and review the performance of our Olefins and Polyolefins – Europe and International segment. EBITDA was a...
Speaker #3: Fourth quarter of seasonally lower $61 million, prices, and higher levels of unplanned, planned, and pressured maintenance in olefins. Volumes were significantly impacted by weaker demand.
Kim Foley: Seasonally, lower prices and higher levels of planned and unplanned maintenance pressured profitability. In Olefins, volumes were significantly impacted by weaker demand, year-end inventory control measures, and maintenance events at several of our sites. Polyolefins markets in Europe continue to face soft demand, driven by increased competition from low-cost imports and ongoing destocking across the value chain. As a result, polyolefin margins remain under significant pressure, and volumes were seasonally lowered. In Q4, we proactively aligned our inventories with market demand through targeted rate reductions. These actions helped reduce our working capital and generated positive cash flow from the segment, even in a highly challenging environment. Our teams executed safely and deliberately to provide a reliable supply of product for our customers while supporting our balance sheet. We continue to make steady progress on the planned divestiture of our four European assets.
Seasonally, lower prices and higher levels of planned and unplanned maintenance pressured profitability. In Olefins, volumes were significantly impacted by weaker demand, year-end inventory control measures, and maintenance events at several of our sites. Polyolefins markets in Europe continue to face soft demand, driven by increased competition from low-cost imports and ongoing destocking across the value chain. As a result, polyolefin margins remain under significant pressure, and volumes were seasonally lowered. In Q4, we proactively aligned our inventories with market demand through targeted rate reductions.
Speaker #3: Inventory year-end control measures and maintenance events at several of our sites. Polyolefins markets in Europe continue to face soft demand, driven by increased competition from cost imports, ongoing destocking, and low value.
Speaker #3: As a chain result, polyolefins remain margins under significant pressure and volumes were seasonally lowered in the fourth quarter. We proactively aligned our inventories with market demand through targeted rate reductions.
These actions helped reduce our working capital and generated positive cash flow from the segment, even in a highly challenging environment. Our teams executed safely and deliberately to provide a reliable supply of product for our customers while supporting our balance sheet. We continue to make steady progress on the planned divestiture of our four European assets.
Speaker #3: These actions helped working reduce our capital and generated positive cash flow from the segment. Even in a highly challenging environment in our teams, our safely and executed deliberately to provide supply reliable of product for our customers.
Speaker #3: While supporting our balance sheet, we continue to make steady on the planned progress divestiture of our four European assets regulatory reviews work.
Kim Foley: Regulatory reviews, work council consultations, and transition plans are all advancing as expected, and we remain on track to complete the transaction in Q2 2026. This is a significant milestone in reshaping the regional footprint of our global O&P portfolio. As we move into 2026, our O&P EAI segment has no major turnaround scheduled for the coming year and expect improved volumes with lower maintenance activities. We expect to operate our European assets at a rate of 75% during Q1. With that, I will turn it over to Aaron.
Regulatory reviews, work council consultations, and transition plans are all advancing as expected, and we remain on track to complete the transaction in Q2 2026. This is a significant milestone in reshaping the regional footprint of our global O&P portfolio. As we move into 2026, our O&P EAI segment has no major turnaround scheduled for the coming year and expect improved volumes with lower maintenance activities. We expect to operate our European assets at a rate of 75% during Q1. With that, I will turn it over to Aaron.
Speaker #3: Council consultations and transition plans are all advancing as expected, and we remain on track to complete the transaction in the second quarter of 2026.
Speaker #3: This is a milestone in significantly reshaping the regional footprint of our OMP global portfolio as we move into 2026. Our OMP EA segment has no major turnarounds scheduled for the year, and we expect improved volumes with maintenance activities lower.
Speaker #3: We expect to operate our European assets at a rate of 75% during the first quarter. With that, I will turn it over to Aaron.
Aaron Ledet: Thank you, Kim. Please turn to slide 13 as we take a look at our Intermediates and Derivatives segment. Q4 EBITDA was $205 million. The typical seasonal decline in oxyfuels margins was delayed due to planned and unplanned industry outages that tightened supply early in the quarter and supported stronger blend premiums. Additionally, propylene glycol demand improved due to aircraft de-icing demand, while acetyls results were negatively impacted by the turnaround. During the quarter, the team completed the turnaround at our La Porte acetyls unit. This turnaround included key initiatives to begin converting our vinyl acetate monomer production to an innovative LYB catalyst system that improves margins and helps reduce our reliance on costly precious metal catalysts. The turnaround was completed on time, but we kept the asset down longer to help manage inventory levels.
Aaron Ledet: Thank you, Kim. Please turn to slide 13 as we take a look at our Intermediates and Derivatives segment. Q4 EBITDA was $205 million. The typical seasonal decline in oxyfuels margins was delayed due to planned and unplanned industry outages that tightened supply early in the quarter and supported stronger blend premiums. Additionally, propylene glycol demand improved due to aircraft de-icing demand, while acetyls results were negatively impacted by the turnaround. During the quarter, the team completed the turnaround at our La Porte acetyls unit. This turnaround included key initiatives to begin converting our vinyl acetate monomer production to an innovative LYB catalyst system that improves margins and helps reduce our reliance on costly precious metal catalysts. The turnaround was completed on time, but we kept the asset down longer to help manage inventory levels.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Kim. Please turn to slide 13 as we take a look at our Intermediates and Derivatives segment. Fourth quarter EBITDA was $205 million.
Speaker #4: The typical seasonal decline in oxyfuels margins was delayed due to planned and unplanned industry outages that tightened supply early in the quarter and supported stronger blend premiums.
Speaker #4: Additionally, glycol and propylene demand improved due to aircraft deicing demand, while Acetyls results were negatively impacted by the turnaround during the quarter. The team completed the turnaround at our La Porte Acetyls unit.
Speaker #4: This turnaround included key initiatives to begin vinyl converting our acetate monomer production to an innovative Libby catalyst system that improves margins and helps reduce our reliance on costly, precious metal catalysts.
Speaker #4: The turnaround was completed on time , but the we kept asset down longer to help manage inventory levels . We start up process in early January began the , and the asset has come back down due to cold weather .
Aaron Ledet: We began the startup process in early January, and the asset has come back down due to cold weather. We expect the January downtime to impact Q1 EBITDA by approximately $20 million, as seen in the modeling information in the appendix to our slides. To align with maintenance and softer year-end demand, we operated our IND assets at a rate of approximately 75% during Q4. As we begin Q1, we expect to see positive trends in our P&D business, with additional glycol sales into the de-icing market and capacity rationalizations in both Europe and the United States, improving LYB's market share. Acetyls volumes are expected to improve following the Q4 La Porte turnaround, and oxyfuels profitability should exhibit typical seasonal margin improvements towards the end of the quarter. Our plan is to operate our assets at approximately 85% during the quarter.
We began the startup process in early January, and the asset has come back down due to cold weather. We expect the January downtime to impact Q1 EBITDA by approximately $20 million, as seen in the modeling information in the appendix to our slides. To align with maintenance and softer year-end demand, we operated our IND assets at a rate of approximately 75% during Q4. As we begin Q1, we expect to see positive trends in our P&D business, with additional glycol sales into the de-icing market and capacity rationalizations in both Europe and the United States, improving LYB's market share.
Speaker #4: We expect the January downtime to impact first quarter EBITDA by approximately $20 million , as seen in the modeling information in the appendix to slides to with maintenance align and our softer year end demand , we IND operated our assets at a rate of approximately 75% during the fourth quarter .
Speaker #4: Beginning the first quarter, we continue to see positive trends in our Pondex business with additional glycol sales, deicing market, and capacity rationalizations in both Europe and the United States.
Acetyls volumes are expected to improve following the Q4 La Porte turnaround, and oxyfuels profitability should exhibit typical seasonal margin improvements towards the end of the quarter. Our plan is to operate our assets at approximately 85% during the quarter. With that, I will now turn the call over to Torkel.
Speaker #4: Improving LBI's market share. Acetyls volumes are expected to improve in the fourth quarter, following the Laporte turnaround, and Oxyfuels' profitability should exhibit typical seasonal margin improvements towards the end of the quarter.
Speaker #4: Our plan is to operate our assets at approximately 85% during the quarter. With that, I will now turn the call over to Torkel.
Aaron Ledet: With that, I will now turn the call over to Torkel.
Torkel Rhenman: Thank you, Aaron. Now, let's review the results of our Advanced Polymer Solutions segment on slide 14. Q4 EBITDA was $38 million. APS volumes were lower due to typical Q4 seasonal demand patterns, including softer automotive production across all regions. Even with a softer backdrop, year-over-year, APS delivered 55% higher EBITDA, along with substantial improvement in cash generation, reflecting meaningful progress in our commercial execution and cost discipline. I'm extremely proud of the progress the APS team is achieving in our transformation. Throughout 2025, we delivered substantial operational and financial improvements, drove exceptional fixed cost discipline, and strengthened customer centricity despite a challenging market. Looking ahead, we expect seasonal demand improvements across our key markets, and we will continue to regain market share with our renewed focus on customer centricity, reliable service, and differentiated solutions.
Torkel Rhenman: Thank you, Aaron. Now, let's review the results of our Advanced Polymer Solutions segment on slide 14. Q4 EBITDA was $38 million. APS volumes were lower due to typical Q4 seasonal demand patterns, including softer automotive production across all regions. Even with a softer backdrop, year-over-year, APS delivered 55% higher EBITDA, along with substantial improvement in cash generation, reflecting meaningful progress in our commercial execution and cost discipline. I'm extremely proud of the progress the APS team is achieving in our transformation.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Erin. Now let's review the results of our Advanced Polymer Solutions segment on slide 14.
Speaker #1: Fourth quarter EBITDA .
Speaker #4: Was $38 million. EPs volumes were lower due to typical fourth quarter seasonal demand patterns, including softer automotive production across all regions.
Speaker #4: With this even softer backdrop, over the year EPs year delivered 55% higher EBITDA, along with substantial improvement in cash generation, reflecting meaningful progress in our commercial execution and cost discipline.
Speaker #4: I'm extremely proud of the progress the team is achieving in our transformation throughout 2025. We delivered substantial operational and financial improvements, drove exceptional fixed cost discipline, and strengthened customer centricity.
Throughout 2025, we delivered substantial operational and financial improvements, drove exceptional fixed cost discipline, and strengthened customer centricity despite a challenging market. Looking ahead, we expect seasonal demand improvements across our key markets, and we will continue to regain market share with our renewed focus on customer centricity, reliable service, and differentiated solutions. With that, I will return the call to Peter.
Speaker #4: Despite a challenging market, looking ahead, we expect seasonal demand improvements across our key markets, and we will continue to regain market share with our renewed focus on customer centricity, reliable service, and differentiated solutions.
Torkel Rhenman: With that, I will return the call to Peter.
Speaker #4: With that, I will return the call to.
Peter Vanacker: ... Thanks, Torkel. I agree with you. The APS team is doing excellent work in managing their business turnarounds, despite all the market challenges. To close out on the segments, let's turn to slide 15 and discuss the results for our technology business on behalf of Jim Seward. During Q4, the segment delivered solid results. Catalyst demand strengthened across key regions, and revenue increased as a higher number of previously sold licenses reached revenue recognition milestones. Together, these factors contributed to segment EBITDA of $80 million in the quarter. Looking ahead, we expect Q1 results for the technology segment to trend lower, potentially approaching levels seen in Q2 of 2025. While we anticipate a typical seasonal uplift in catalyst sales, licensing revenue is expected to decline, as fewer revenue milestones are expected in the quarter.
Peter Vanacker: ... Thanks, Torkel. I agree with you. The APS team is doing excellent work in managing their business turnarounds, despite all the market challenges. To close out on the segments, let's turn to slide 15 and discuss the results for our technology business on behalf of Jim Seward. During Q4, the segment delivered solid results. Catalyst demand strengthened across key regions, and revenue increased as a higher number of previously sold licenses reached revenue recognition milestones. Together, these factors contributed to segment EBITDA of $80 million in the quarter. Looking ahead, we expect Q1 results for the technology segment to trend lower, potentially approaching levels seen in Q2 of 2025. While we anticipate a typical seasonal uplift in catalyst sales, licensing revenue is expected to decline, as fewer revenue milestones are expected in the quarter.
Speaker #1: Agree with you. The apps team is doing Oracle.
Speaker #1: excellent work Peter managing their Thanks , in turnaround . Despite all the market challenges . To close out on segments , the let's turn to slide 15 and discuss the results our for technology business .
Speaker #1: On behalf of Jim Seward. During the fourth quarter, the segment delivered solid results. Catalyst demand strengthened across key regions, and revenue increased as a higher number of previously sold licenses reached revenue recognition milestones.
Speaker #1: Together , these factors contributed to segment EBITDA of $80 million in the quarter . Looking ahead , we first quarter expect results for the technology segment to trend lower , potentially approaching levels seen in the second quarter of 2025 .
Speaker #1: While we anticipate an uplift seasonally in catalyst sales, licensing revenue is expected to decline as fewer milestones are expected in the quarter.
Peter Vanacker: The substantially lower demand for licenses is an indication of the ongoing trends of reduced global investments in petrochemical capacity additions at the bottom of the cycle. Now, let's turn to slide 16 for our near-term market outlook. Following pronounced Q4 seasonality, we expect modest improvements as we move through the Q1, and we're likely to consume some working capital as normal. In North America, we expect typical seasonal demand recovery. Additionally, our polyethylene price increase initiatives are supported by low industry inventories, while exports continue to play an essential role in balancing markets. In Europe, demand should also seasonally improve, although the impact of imports into the region continue to pressure pricing. Supportive regulatory frameworks for circularity, along with the continued asset rationalizations in the region, remain a helpful tailwind over the medium term.
The substantially lower demand for licenses is an indication of the ongoing trends of reduced global investments in petrochemical capacity additions at the bottom of the cycle. Now, let's turn to slide 16 for our near-term market outlook. Following pronounced Q4 seasonality, we expect modest improvements as we move through the Q1, and we're likely to consume some working capital as normal. In North America, we expect typical seasonal demand recovery. Additionally, our polyethylene price increase initiatives are supported by low industry inventories, while exports continue to play an essential role in balancing markets. In Europe, demand should also seasonally improve, although the impact of imports into the region continue to pressure pricing. Supportive regulatory frameworks for circularity, along with the continued asset rationalizations in the region, remain a helpful tailwind over the medium term.
Speaker #1: The substantially lower demand for licenses is an indication of the ongoing trend of globally reduced investments in petrochemical capacity additions at the bottom of the cycle.
Speaker #1: Now let's turn to slide 16 for our near-term market outlook. Following pronounced fourth quarter seasonality, we expect modest improvements as we move through the first quarter.
Speaker #1: And we're likely to consume some working capital as normal in North America . We expect typical seasonal demand recovery Additionally , our . polyethylene price increase initiatives are supported by low industry inventories while exports continue to play an essential role in balancing markets in Europe , demand should also seasonally Although improve .
Speaker #1: the impact of imports into the region continue to pressure pricing , supportive regulatory frameworks for circularity , along with the continued asset rationalizations in the region , remain a helpful tailwind over the medium term in Asia , near-term capacity additions continued to wait on margins , while medium term rationalization announcements or an encouraging trend that should eventually help to balance global supply in the packaging sector , remains demand stable and driven by essentials .
Peter Vanacker: In Asia, near-term capacity additions continue to weigh on margins, while medium-term rationalization announcements are an encouraging trend that should eventually help to balance global supply. In the packaging sector, demand remains stable and driven by essentials. Consumers continue to be value-focused, and we're seeing a sustained shift toward private label brands across both North America and Europe. In building and construction, sentiment remains cautious. Low interest rates should provide some support, but we expect the environment to remain soft in the near term. In the automotive sector, North America continues to reflect challenged affordability dynamics, even as interest rates decline, while Europe is showing signs of stabilization. For oxyfuels, geopolitical uncertainty is expected to keep markets volatile. We continue to monitor supply developments closely. Overall, while macro conditions remain mixed, we expect modest sequential improvements from the seasonal lows of Q4.
In Asia, near-term capacity additions continue to weigh on margins, while medium-term rationalization announcements are an encouraging trend that should eventually help to balance global supply. In the packaging sector, demand remains stable and driven by essentials. Consumers continue to be value-focused, and we're seeing a sustained shift toward private label brands across both North America and Europe. In building and construction, sentiment remains cautious. Low interest rates should provide some support, but we expect the environment to remain soft in the near term. In the automotive sector, North America continues to reflect challenged affordability dynamics, even as interest rates decline, while Europe is showing signs of stabilization.
Speaker #1: Consumers continue to be value-focused, and we're seeing a sustained shift toward private label brands across both North America and Europe in building and construction.
Speaker #1: Sentiment remains cautious. Low interest rates should provide some support, but expect the environment to remain soft in the near term.
Speaker #1: In the automotive sector, North America continues to reflect challenged affordability dynamics, even as interest rates decline, while Europe is showing signs of stabilization.
For oxyfuels, geopolitical uncertainty is expected to keep markets volatile. We continue to monitor supply developments closely. Overall, while macro conditions remain mixed, we expect modest sequential improvements from the seasonal lows of Q4.Our teams remain focused on execution, cost discipline, and value-driven growth as markets gradually strengthen. Even in this challenging environment, I'm confident that LYB continues to be well-positioned, and I am proud of how our team continues to execute with discipline. Now, with that, we're pleased to take your questions.
Speaker #1: Proxy fuels geopolitical uncertainty is expected to keep markets volatile. We continue to monitor supply developments closely. Overall, while macro conditions remain mixed, we expect modest sequential improvement from the seasonal lows of the fourth quarter.
Peter Vanacker: Our teams remain focused on execution, cost discipline, and value-driven growth as markets gradually strengthen. Even in this challenging environment, I'm confident that LYB continues to be well-positioned, and I am proud of how our team continues to execute with discipline. Now, with that, we're pleased to take your questions.
Speaker #1: Our teams remain focused on execution , cost , discipline and value driven growth as markets gradually strengthen , even in this challenging environment .
Speaker #1: I'm confident that LYB continues to be well positioned, and I am proud of how our team continues to execute with discipline. Now, with that, we're pleased to take your questions.
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David Begleiter: Thank you. Good morning. Peter, just on the dividend, your yield is twice that of your closest peer. You trade at a full turn multiple discount on EBITDA to that peer. So investors aren't really giving you credit for the higher yield, but so why not just cut the dividend, invest that cash into your project pipeline, because investors do pay for growth, and move on from there? Thank you.
David Begleiter: Thank you. Good morning. Peter, just on the dividend, your yield is twice that of your closest peer. You trade at a full turn multiple discount on EBITDA to that peer. So investors aren't really giving you credit for the higher yield, but so why not just cut the dividend, invest that cash into your project pipeline, because investors do pay for growth, and move on from there? Thank you.
Speaker #6: Thank you . Good morning . Peter , just on the dividend . Yield is twice that of your closest peer . You trade at a full term multiple discount on EBITDA to that peer .
Speaker #6: So investors aren't really giving you credit for the higher yield . But . So why not just cut the dividend , invest that cash into your project pipeline .
Speaker #6: Investors do pay for growth and move on from thank you.
Peter Vanacker: Thanks, David. Of course, I mean, that's the core question. Very good question, I mean, to start with. What you've seen, what we have accomplished during the year 2025, yes, they're very difficult market environments, but the team delivered cash from ops of $2.3 billion in such a market environment. We overperformed on our Cash Improvement Plan $800 million. Give you a couple of data points. We're running the entire company at the end of 2025 with 18,700 people. That's a very lean organization that we have, and that's 1,350 people less than at the end of 2024.
Peter Vanacker: Thanks, David. Of course, I mean, that's the core question. Very good question, I mean, to start with. What you've seen, what we have accomplished during the year 2025, yes, they're very difficult market environments, but the team delivered cash from ops of $2.3 billion in such a market environment. We overperformed on our Cash Improvement Plan $800 million. Give you a couple of data points. We're running the entire company at the end of 2025 with 18,700 people. That's a very lean organization that we have, and that's 1,350 people less than at the end of 2024.
Speaker #1: Of David . Thanks , course . I mean , that's a the core question . Very good question . I mean , to start with what you've seen , what we have accomplished during the year 2025 .
Speaker #1: Yes, they're very difficult market environments, but the team delivered cash from ops of $2.3 billion in such a market environment.
Speaker #1: We overperformed on cash, our improvement plan—$800 million. I'll give you a couple of data points. We're running the entire company at the end of 2025 with 18,700 people.
Speaker #1: That's a very lean organization that we have, and that's 1,350 people less than at the end of 2020, of 2024. It doesn't mean that we don't continue to work on that, as we announced also that we will continue to focus on our cash improvement plan during 2026, with an additional $500 million.
Peter Vanacker: Doesn't mean, I mean, that we don't continue to work on that, as we announced also that we will continue to focus on our Cash Improvement Plan during 2026, with a target of an additional $500 million. Of course, all that in the context of navigating the cycle. Needless to say, we've said it multiple times, that our investment-grade balance sheet is the foundation of our capital allocation strategy. And of course, when we are focusing on our Cash Improvement Plan, we will continue to prioritize, I mean, safe and reliable operations. I said it in the prepared remarks. This has been the safest year, 2025, I mean, at LyondellBasell. So it's clear evidence that we prioritize safe and reliable operations.
Doesn't mean, I mean, that we don't continue to work on that, as we announced also that we will continue to focus on our Cash Improvement Plan during 2026, with a target of an additional $500 million. Of course, all that in the context of navigating the cycle. Needless to say, we've said it multiple times, that our investment-grade balance sheet is the foundation of our capital allocation strategy. And of course, when we are focusing on our Cash Improvement Plan, we will continue to prioritize, I mean, safe and reliable operations. I said it in the prepared remarks. This has been the safest year, 2025, I mean, at LyondellBasell. So it's clear evidence that we prioritize safe and reliable operations.
Speaker #1: Of course , all that in the context of navigating the cycle . Needless to say , we've said it multiple times that our investment grade balance sheet is the foundation of our capital allocation strategy .
Speaker #1: And of we course , when focusing on our cash plan , improvement we will continue to prioritize . Amine safe and reliable operations .
Speaker #1: it in the I said prepared remarks been . the This has safest year 2025 . I mean , at Brazil . So it's a clear evidence that we prioritize safe and reliable operations , continue to work also on our value enhancement program .
Peter Vanacker: Continue to work also on our Value Enhancement Program, but we focus on projects that have no costs or low costs and immediate return on investments. It's clear that at the bottom of the cycle, we are evaluating the balance between cash returns to shareholders and growth investments, as you alluded to, and that in the context of a lower cash generation. And of course, also considering the metrics that are required for an investment-grade balance sheet. You know, that we have delayed, I mean, certain growth investments, Flex II, MoReTec Two, some other smaller growth initiatives. We continue to work on the projects that we have in Saudi Arabia, where we continue to get, I mean, quite a lot of support from the local authorities.
Continue to work also on our Value Enhancement Program, but we focus on projects that have no costs or low costs and immediate return on investments. It's clear that at the bottom of the cycle, we are evaluating the balance between cash returns to shareholders and growth investments, as you alluded to, and that in the context of a lower cash generation. And of course, also considering the metrics that are required for an investment-grade balance sheet. You know, that we have delayed, I mean, certain growth investments, Flex II, MoReTec Two, some other smaller growth initiatives. We continue to work on the projects that we have in Saudi Arabia, where we continue to get, I mean, quite a lot of support from the local authorities.
Speaker #1: But we focus on projects that have no cost or low costs and immediate return on investment. It's clear that at the bottom of the cycle, we are evaluating the balance between cash returns to shareholders and growth investments.
Speaker #1: As you alluded to , and that in the context of a lower cash generation . And of course , also considering the are required metrics that for an investment grade balance sheet , you know , that we have delayed , I mean , certain growth investments , flex two some other Meritech two , smaller growth initiatives .
Speaker #1: We continue to work on the we projects that have in Saudi Arabia , where we continue to get , I mean , quite a lot of support from the local authorities and definitely also the last thing that I want to say to that is we have , of course , regular , robust conversations on our capital allocation strategy with our boards and decisions on whether we recalibrate the dividend to maintain our investment grade metrics .
Peter Vanacker: Definitely also, the last thing that I wanna say to that is, we have, of course, regular, robust conversations on our capital allocation strategy with our boards. Decisions on whether we recalibrate the dividend to maintain our investment grade metrics, they are decided by our boards, and they are regularly being reviewed during our scheduled board meetings, and the next one will take place in February.
Definitely also, the last thing that I wanna say to that is, we have, of course, regular, robust conversations on our capital allocation strategy with our boards. Decisions on whether we recalibrate the dividend to maintain our investment grade metrics, they are decided by our boards, and they are regularly being reviewed during our scheduled board meetings, and the next one will take place in February.
Speaker #1: They are all decided by our boards, and they are regularly being reviewed during our scheduled board meetings. The next one will take place in February.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Patrick Cunningham with Citi. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Patrick Cunningham with Citi. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #5: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Patrick Cunningham with Citi. Please proceed with your question.
Patrick Cunningham: Hi, this is Alex, for Patrick. I had a question on your CapEx guide for 2026. You're guiding about $1.2 billion. Now, historically, Lyondell was around somewhere between $2 billion. So I'm just wondering if the reduced CapEx guide is a function of just the recent asset sales, or if there's a change in your maintenance CapEx, or if the new $800 million on maintenance is the new normal baseline for Lyondell. If you could help us understand your CapEx outlook for 2026 and maybe the years beyond that, that would be helpful. Thank you.
Patrick Cunningham: Hi, this is Alex, for Patrick. I had a question on your CapEx guide for 2026. You're guiding about $1.2 billion. Now, historically, Lyondell was around somewhere between $2 billion. So I'm just wondering if the reduced CapEx guide is a function of just the recent asset sales, or if there's a change in your maintenance CapEx, or if the new $800 million on maintenance is the new normal baseline for Lyondell. If you could help us understand your CapEx outlook for 2026 and maybe the years beyond that, that would be helpful. Thank you.
Speaker #7: Hi .
Speaker #7: This is Alex on for— I had a question, Patrick, on your CapEx guide for ’26. You’re guiding about $1.2 billion now. Lyondell was around— somewhere.
Speaker #7: Historically, just wondering if the reduced guide is between $2 billion, is that a function of just the recent asset sales or if there's a change in your maintenance CapEx? Or if the new $800 million on maintenance is the new baseline for Lyondell?
Speaker #7: If you normal could help us understand your CapEx outlook for years beyond that , that would be helpful . Thank you 26 and maybe the .
Peter Vanacker: Yeah, let me start with your question, Patrick. Thank you for your question. Indeed, I mean, $1.2 billion 2026 is the CapEx that we have communicated that we're planning. And out of that, I mean, $0.8 billion in maintenance. Let me put that a little bit into the context. We've been investing in our company in growth, in reliability, in productivity, also through our Value Enhancement Program, but also big investments like our PO/TBA facility that run above nameplate capacity, as you know, very successfully, above depreciation during the last years. So we have invested in growth. Also last year, cash CapEx $1.9 billion, accrued CapEx $1.7 billion, is well above, I mean, our depreciation level.
Peter Vanacker: Yeah, let me start with your question, Patrick. Thank you for your question. Indeed, I mean, $1.2 billion 2026 is the CapEx that we have communicated that we're planning. And out of that, I mean, $0.8 billion in maintenance. Let me put that a little bit into the context. We've been investing in our company in growth, in reliability, in productivity, also through our Value Enhancement Program, but also big investments like our PO/TBA facility that run above nameplate capacity, as you know, very successfully, above depreciation during the last years. So we have invested in growth. Also last year, cash CapEx $1.9 billion, accrued CapEx $1.7 billion, is well above, I mean, our depreciation level.
Speaker #1: start with Yeah . Let me your question , Patrick . Thank you for your question . Indeed . mean , I 1.2 billion in 2026 is the CapEx that we have communicated planning that we're and out that , I mean , of 0.8 billion in maintenance ?
Speaker #1: Let me put that a little bit into the context . We've been investing in our company in growth , in reliability , in productivity , also through our value enhancement also investments like our But program .
Speaker #1: Let me put that a little bit into the context . We've been investing in our company in growth , in reliability , in productivity , also through our value enhancement also investments like our But program . big Perturba facility that ran nameplate capacity .
Speaker #1: As you know, we have been successfully above depreciation during the last years. So we have invested in growth also last year—cash CapEx was $1.9 billion, accrued CapEx $1.7 billion—which is well above our depreciation level.
Peter Vanacker: So also here in 2025, I mean, we have continued to invest in growth, reliability, safety, and productivity. So in that context, when we revisited our plan for 2026, we came to the conclusion that in 2026, we can actually postpone a couple of turnarounds because of all the work that we have done already in 2024 and 2025. We could, of course, also limit the maintenance CapEx, safety and maintenance CapEx for 2026, I mean, to that $800 million. And then the delta is a couple of the growth projects, but of course, important in that is our continued progress that we have on the MoReTec One investment in Cologne. Anything you wanna add, Agustin?
So also here in 2025, I mean, we have continued to invest in growth, reliability, safety, and productivity. So in that context, when we revisited our plan for 2026, we came to the conclusion that in 2026, we can actually postpone a couple of turnarounds because of all the work that we have done already in 2024 and 2025. We could, of course, also limit the maintenance CapEx, safety and maintenance CapEx for 2026, I mean, to that $800 million. And then the delta is a couple of the growth projects, but of course, important in that is our continued progress that we have on the MoReTec One investment in Cologne. Anything you wanna add, Agustin?
Speaker #1: So also here in 2025 , I mean , we have continued to invest in growth , reliability , safety and productivity . So in that context , when we revisited our plan for 2026 , we came to the conclusion that 2026 , we can in actually postpone a couple of turnarounds because of all the work that we have done already in 24 and 25 , we could , of course , also limit the maintenance , CapEx , safety and maintenance CapEx for 26 .
Speaker #1: I mean , that 800 million . to And then the Delta is a couple of the growth projects . But of course , important in that is our continuous progress that we have on Dmt1 investment in Cologne .
Speaker #1: Anything you want to add? Augustine, I think.
Agustin Izquierdo: Peter, that was a very comprehensive answer. I would say just, Alex, that the other point is this is also a fairly light year in terms of turnaround. We only have the turnaround on the Midwest plant, then we have also a smaller one for I&D. And as Peter alluded, we have been very diligent on managing our maintenance CapEx, and this time, that's why we can achieve now this $800 million for maintenance CapEx, and as he mentioned, $400 million for growth projects.
Agustin Izquierdo: Peter, that was a very comprehensive answer. I would say just, Alex, that the other point is this is also a fairly light year in terms of turnaround. We only have the turnaround on the Midwest plant, then we have also a smaller one for I&D. And as Peter alluded, we have been very diligent on managing our maintenance CapEx, and this time, that's why we can achieve now this $800 million for maintenance CapEx, and as he mentioned, $400 million for growth projects.
Speaker #2: Peter , that was a very comprehensive answer . would say I just Alex , that the the other point is , is also a fairly light year in terms of turnaround .
Speaker #2: We only have the turnaround in the Midwest plant, and then we have also a smaller one for Indy. And as Peter alluded, we have been very diligent on managing our maintenance CapEx.
Speaker #2: And this time that's why we can achieve now this 800 on 800 million for for maintenance CapEx . And as he mentioned , 400 for growth projects .
Peter Vanacker: But just to be clear, I mean, normally, I mean, we have turnarounds, I'd say, in the environment of 3 to 4 per year. So we only will have, I mean, 2 in 2026. It doesn't mean that you can take, I mean, $800 million as safety and maintenance CapEx, and extrapolate that for the foreseeable future. You know that we have $1.2 billion in the past in safety and maintenance CapEx. Once we have fully executed our European assessments, we expect that number to go down to something around, let's say, $1.1 billion. But you can always steer it a little bit, I mean, from one year to the other, just like we do in the Cash Improvement Plan, then, for 2026 with $800 million.
Peter Vanacker: But just to be clear, I mean, normally, I mean, we have turnarounds, I'd say, in the environment of 3 to 4 per year. So we only will have, I mean, 2 in 2026. It doesn't mean that you can take, I mean, $800 million as safety and maintenance CapEx, and extrapolate that for the foreseeable future. You know that we have $1.2 billion in the past in safety and maintenance CapEx. Once we have fully executed our European assessments, we expect that number to go down to something around, let's say, $1.1 billion. But you can always steer it a little bit, I mean, from one year to the other, just like we do in the Cash Improvement Plan, then, for 2026 with $800 million.
Speaker #1: But just to be clear , I normally , I mean , we have mean , turnarounds . I'd say in the environment of 3 to 4 per year .
Speaker #1: So we only will have, I mean, two in 2026. It doesn't mean that you can take, I mean, $800 million as safety and CapEx.
Speaker #1: Extrapolate maintenance that, for the foreseeable future, you know, that had $1.2 billion in the past—we, in safety and maintenance CapEx.
Speaker #1: Once we have fully executed our European assessments, we expect that number to go down to something around, let's say, $1.1 billion.
Speaker #1: But you can steer it a little bit . I mean , from one year to the other , just like we do in the in the cash improvement plan .
Speaker #1: Then 2026, with the $800 million.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Frank Mitsch with Fermium Research. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Frank Mitsch with Fermium Research. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #5: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Frank Mitsch with Phormium Proceed Research. Please, go ahead with your question.
Frank Mitsch: Good morning, and thank you. So, you shut down the Houston refinery a year ago, and some may argue that things have changed with respect to the outlook in the midterm, you know, given the events at the beginning of this year in terms of Venezuela. And as you know, that Houston refinery was perfect for running Ven crude. I'm curious as to what your thoughts are. Obviously, this was something that you were looking at possibly doing with MoReTec, et cetera, but given that it's only been shut down a year, what might be the possibility that Lyondell would look to monetize that asset should, you know, some of the refiners look at, hey, if Ven crude becomes more plentiful down the line, that asset could be rather valuable.
Frank Mitsch: Good morning, and thank you. So, you shut down the Houston refinery a year ago, and some may argue that things have changed with respect to the outlook in the midterm, you know, given the events at the beginning of this year in terms of Venezuela. And as you know, that Houston refinery was perfect for running Ven crude. I'm curious as to what your thoughts are. Obviously, this was something that you were looking at possibly doing with MoReTec, et cetera, but given that it's only been shut down a year, what might be the possibility that Lyondell would look to monetize that asset should, you know, some of the refiners look at, hey, if Ven crude becomes more plentiful down the line, that asset could be rather valuable. What, what are your thoughts there?
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Speaker #8: Good, so you shut down the Houston refinery a year ago, and some may argue that things have changed with respect to the outlook in the mid-term.
Speaker #8: morning , and thank you
Speaker #8: You know events at , given the the beginning of this year in terms of Venezuela and as you know , that Houston refinery was perfect for running , then crude .
Speaker #8: I'm curious as to what your thoughts are. Obviously, this was something that you were looking at possibly doing with more tech, etc.
Speaker #8: , but given that it's only been shut down a year , what might be the possibility that that Lyondell would look to monetize that asset should , you know , some of the refiners look at , hey , if becomes crude more plentiful than a line , that asset could rather be What are your thoughts valuable .
Frank Mitsch: What, what are your thoughts there?
Peter Vanacker: Hey, Frank, nice to meet you again. A good question, I mean, on the refinery, in the context of what happened in Venezuela. I mean, our plan with the refinery continues to be as we explained before. Of course, we look at in the context of the Cash Improvement Plan, you know, that we have delayed, I mean, the investment in MRT2. One thing that I want to highlight as well, remember, I mean, when we decided to shut down the refinery, we avoided CapEx of, I would easily say, I mean, $1.5 billion, because we hadn't done a turnaround anymore on the refinery since what, about eight years in total.
Peter Vanacker: Hey, Frank, nice to meet you again. A good question, I mean, on the refinery, in the context of what happened in Venezuela. I mean, our plan with the refinery continues to be as we explained before. Of course, we look at in the context of the Cash Improvement Plan, you know, that we have delayed, I mean, the investment in MRT2. One thing that I want to highlight as well, remember, I mean, when we decided to shut down the refinery, we avoided CapEx of, I would easily say, I mean, $1.5 billion, because we hadn't done a turnaround anymore on the refinery since what, about eight years in total.
Speaker #8: ? There ?
Speaker #1: Frank , Hey , nice to meet you again . A question . I mean , good on the refinery in the context of what happened in Venezuela .
Speaker #1: I mean , our plan with the refinery continues to be as we explained before , of course , we look at in the of the cash context improvement plan , you know , that we have delayed them in the investment in MRT .
Speaker #1: want to One thing that I highlight as well , remember , I mean , decided to when we shut down the refinery , we avoided CapEx of I would easily say , I mean , 1.5 billion because we hadn't done a turnarounds anymore on the refinery since .
Peter Vanacker: So in order to continue to run the refinery at that time, we would have had to taken the decision, of course, to do that turnarounds, which would have been quite costly. Of course, I mean, the old refinery is not the only one in the United States that can take that kind of crude quality from Venezuela. There is quite a lot of refineries that can take that that crude. So our plan, I mean, continues to be, as we have explained, I mean, transform, I mean, the refinery in the context, of course, from a timeline perspective, of the Cash Improvement Plan. And as such, I mean, we continue to remain very open in what we can do, I mean, with the existing assets that we have there.
Speaker #1: , about What eight years in total . So in order to continue to run the refinery at that time , we would have taken the decision , had to of course , to do that , turnarounds , have which would been quite costly course .
So in order to continue to run the refinery at that time, we would have had to taken the decision, of course, to do that turnarounds, which would have been quite costly. Of course, I mean, the old refinery is not the only one in the United States that can take that kind of crude quality from Venezuela. There is quite a lot of refineries that can take that that crude. So our plan, I mean, continues to be, as we have explained, I mean, transform, I mean, the refinery in the context, of course, from a timeline perspective, of the Cash Improvement Plan. And as such, I mean, we continue to remain very open in what we can do, I mean, with the existing assets that we have there.
Speaker #1: I mean, the old refinery is not the only one in the United States that can take that kind of crude quality from Venezuela.
Speaker #1: There is quite a lot of refineries that can take that , that crude . So our plan , I continues to be , as we have explained , I mean , transform , I mean , the refinery in the context , of from a timeline perspective course , of the cash improvement plan and such , I mean , we as continue to very open in what remain we can do .
Speaker #1: I mean, with the existing assets that we have there.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jeffrey Zekauskas with J.P. Morgan. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jeffrey Zekauskas with J.P. Morgan. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #5: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Zukauskas with J.P. Morgan. Please proceed with your question.
Jeff Zekauskas: Thanks very much. The balance sheet was managed very, very well at the end of 2025, with your receivables and inventories really coming down. Do those need to be built back up in 2026? And what do you think your working capital benefit or use will be in 2026?
Jeff Zekauskas: Thanks very much. The balance sheet was managed very, very well at the end of 2025, with your receivables and inventories really coming down. Do those need to be built back up in 2026? And what do you think your working capital benefit or use will be in 2026?
Speaker #9: Thanks very much. The balance sheet was managed very, very well at the end of 2025, with your receivables and inventories really coming down.
Speaker #9: Do those need to be built back up in 2026, and what do you think your working capital benefit or use will be in 2026?
Peter Vanacker: Hi, Jeff. Good question. I'm gonna start with some comments and then hand over to Agustin. I heard you saying that it was very well managed at the end of 2025. Thank you for your comments on that. But of course, I would like to point out that we managed it very well also during the last, I mean, four years. If you look at our cash conversion since 2022, we have been consistently above 90%. And yes, I mean, 95%, in 2025. I think that's fantastic work. You see the discipline in our organization, fantastic execution by our people.
Peter Vanacker: Hi, Jeff. Good question. I'm gonna start with some comments and then hand over to Agustin. I heard you saying that it was very well managed at the end of 2025. Thank you for your comments on that. But of course, I would like to point out that we managed it very well also during the last, I mean, four years. If you look at our cash conversion since 2022, we have been consistently above 90%. And yes, I mean, 95%, in 2025. I think that's fantastic work. You see the discipline in our organization, fantastic execution by our people.
Speaker #9: .
Speaker #1: Hi Jeff . Good question . I'm going to start with some comments and then hand over to Augustine . I hear I heard you saying that it was very well managed .
Speaker #1: At the end of 2025. Thank you for your comments on that. But of course, I would like to add that we managed it and point out very well.
Speaker #1: Also , during the last I mean , for years , if you look at our cash conversion we since 2022 , have been consistently above 90% .
Speaker #1: And yes , I mean 95% in 2025 . think I that's fantastic work . You see , the discipline in our organization fantastic execution by our people .
Peter Vanacker: And it was not just, I mean, in Q4, again, in the Cash Improvement Plan, I alluded to that already before, partly because of our portfolio management, partly because of further streamlining our organizations, we reduced, I mean, our headcount by 1,350, which is quite substantially if you take that from a 20,000 number, approximately. It's quite an accomplishment that has been delivered by our people.
And it was not just, I mean, in Q4, again, in the Cash Improvement Plan, I alluded to that already before, partly because of our portfolio management, partly because of further streamlining our organizations, we reduced, I mean, our headcount by 1,350, which is quite substantially if you take that from a 20,000 number, approximately. It's quite an accomplishment that has been delivered by our people.
Speaker #1: And it was not just , I mean , in Q4 , again , in the cash improvement plan , I alluded to that already before , partly because of our management , partly because before , of further streamlining our organizations reduced , I mean , our headcount by 1350 , which is quite substantially if you take that from a 20,000 number , approximately an it's a it's it's .
Speaker #1: quite It's a , an accomplishment that has been delivered by our people working capital also over you look revenue . at it , If you exclude I mean the the revenue of the refinery that we had historically .
Peter Vanacker: Working capital also over revenue, if you look at it, I mean, and you exclude, I mean, the, the revenue of the refinery that we had historically, so apples to apples, I mean, we're, we're at rate working capital, running the entire company at, somewhere between over the year, between 12% and 13%, which also in my history, having worked in different companies, is extremely low, especially if you also consider that we don't do any factoring. So with that, Agustin.
Working capital also over revenue, if you look at it, I mean, and you exclude, I mean, the, the revenue of the refinery that we had historically, so apples to apples, I mean, we're, we're at rate working capital, running the entire company at, somewhere between over the year, between 12% and 13%, which also in my history, having worked in different companies, is extremely low, especially if you also consider that we don't do any factoring. So with that, Agustin.
Speaker #1: apples So to apples , I mean , we are we're a trade working capital running the entire company at somewhere between over the year , between 12 and 13% , which also in my history , having worked in different companies , is extremely low , especially if you also don't do any consider that we factoring .
Agustin Izquierdo: Yeah. Thank you, Peter, for the answer, Jeff. So you're absolutely right. The actually, the working capital level on an absolute value is the lowest we've had since 2020. And again, I commend the teams really for the excellent work they did on managing working capital, especially here on the second half and most importantly, during Q4. To your point, yes, we will have to rebuild some working capital as we go into 2026, but this has all been factored now into our Cash Improvement Plan and allows us, we have enough offsets and initiatives in place to allow us to deliver the $1.3 billion cumulative in 2025 and 2026. But yes, you should see some moderate build as we go through the year in working capital terms.
Agustin Izquierdo: Yeah. Thank you, Peter, for the answer, Jeff. So you're absolutely right. The actually, the working capital level on an absolute value is the lowest we've had since 2020. And again, I commend the teams really for the excellent work they did on managing working capital, especially here on the second half and most importantly, during Q4. To your point, yes, we will have to rebuild some working capital as we go into 2026, but this has all been factored now into our Cash Improvement Plan and allows us, we have enough offsets and initiatives in place to allow us to deliver the $1.3 billion cumulative in 2025 and 2026. But yes, you should see some moderate build as we go through the year in working capital terms.
Speaker #1: So with that, Augustine.
Speaker #2: Yeah , thank you , Peter , for the answer . Jeff . So you're absolutely right . The actually the working capital level on an absolute value is the lowest we've had since 2020 .
Speaker #2: And again, I commend the teams, really, for the excellent work they did on managing working capital, especially here in the second half.
Speaker #2: And most importantly , Q4 . To your point , yes , we will have to rebuild some working capital as we go into 2026 , but this has been all factored now into our cash improvement plan and allows us we have enough offsets and initiatives in place to allow us to deliver the 1.3 billion 25 cumulative in and 26 , should see , but as you some moderate build as we go through the year in working capital terms .
Peter Vanacker: And you would not be surprised, Jeff, I mean, just like what we said on the Cash Improvement Plan, $600 million target for 2025, and we over-delivered that $800 million. That means that the entire team, yeah, is, of course, very, very much focused in also finding ways in how can we over-deliver the $500 million dollars in 2026. That's the way how we work. Yeah.
Peter Vanacker: And you would not be surprised, Jeff, I mean, just like what we said on the Cash Improvement Plan, $600 million target for 2025, and we over-delivered that $800 million. That means that the entire team, yeah, is, of course, very, very much focused in also finding ways in how can we over-deliver the $500 million dollars in 2026. That's the way how we work. Yeah.
Speaker #1: would not be And you surprised , Jeff . I mean , just like what we said on the cash improvement plan , 600 million target for 2025 and we overdelivered that 800 million .
Speaker #1: That means that the entire team is of course , , yeah , very , very much focused in also finding ways . And how can we over the $500 million in 2026 .
Speaker #1: That's the way we work. Yeah.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from a line of Vincent Andrews with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from a line of Vincent Andrews with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.
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Vincent Andrews: Thank you very much. I'm just wondering if you could give us your assessment of the oxyfuels market for 2026. I know 2025 had some peculiarities with another competitor asset startup or refinery startup as well as maybe some volatility negative in the oil market. But how would you assess your opportunity there in 2026 versus 2025?
Vincent Andrews: Thank you very much. I'm just wondering if you could give us your assessment of the oxyfuels market for 2026. I know 2025 had some peculiarities with another competitor asset startup or refinery startup as well as maybe some volatility negative in the oil market. But how would you assess your opportunity there in 2026 versus 2025?
Speaker #10: very much . I'm just wondering Thank you give us if you could your assessment of the oxy fuels market for 2026 . I know , 25 had some peculiarities with another competitor asset startup or finery startup , as well as maybe some volatility negative in the in the oil market .
Speaker #10: But how would you assess your opportunity there in '26 versus 2025?
Peter Vanacker: ... Yeah, two points, and I will hand over, I mean, to Aaron. I mean, first point, you're right. I mean, Vincent, it was quite volatile in 2026. But the second point I also want to make is that, if you look at average margins and you compare them historically, they were slightly above, and you saw that in the one slide that we showed. So with that, Aaron?
Peter Vanacker: ... Yeah, two points, and I will hand over, I mean, to Aaron. I mean, first point, you're right. I mean, Vincent, it was quite volatile in 2026. But the second point I also want to make is that, if you look at average margins and you compare them historically, they were slightly above, and you saw that in the one slide that we showed. So with that, Aaron?
Speaker #1: points . And hand over I will I mean to Aaron I mean first points . You're right . I mean Vincent it was quite volatile in 2026 .
Speaker #1: But the second point I also want to make is that if you look at average , I mean margins and you compare them historically , they were slightly above .
Speaker #1: And you saw that in the one slide that we showed. So with that,
Aaron Ledet: Yeah, thanks, Peter, and thanks, Vincent, for the question. I think the short summary is that we are expecting oxyfuels to normalize following a pretty volatile 2025, to your earlier comment, with typical seasonal improvements during the summertime. We're watching crude along the comments that you made as well. Just all the geopolitical unrest that we've seen here in Q1, we've seen a lot of volatility in crude itself, whether it's Brent or WTI, is up $8 a barrel over the month. So obviously, that's gonna impact our profitability looking forward.
Aaron Ledet: Yeah, thanks, Peter, and thanks, Vincent, for the question. I think the short summary is that we are expecting oxyfuels to normalize following a pretty volatile 2025, to your earlier comment, with typical seasonal improvements during the summertime. We're watching crude along the comments that you made as well. Just all the geopolitical unrest that we've seen here in Q1, we've seen a lot of volatility in crude itself, whether it's Brent or WTI, is up $8 a barrel over the month. So obviously, that's gonna impact our profitability looking forward.
Speaker #1: Aaron . Yeah .
Speaker #11: Thanks , Peter . And thanks , Vincent for the for the question . I think the the short summary is that we are expecting oxy fuels to normalize following a pretty volatile 2025 to your earlier comment with typical seasonal improvements during the summertime .
Speaker #11: watching along the crude comments that you made as well . We're Just all the unrest that geopolitical here in the first quarter . We've seen a lot of volatility in crude itself , whether it's Brent or WTI , is up $8 a barrel over the month .
Speaker #11: So obviously that's going to impact our profitability . Looking looking forward , we did start the year with pretty low inventories consistent of our across all businesses .
Aaron Ledet: We did start the year with pretty low inventories, consistent across all of our businesses, and with some of the freeze outages here in the US Gulf Coast, it created a little bit of upward price movement, but demand does remain seasonally low here in Q1.
We did start the year with pretty low inventories, consistent across all of our businesses, and with some of the freeze outages here in the US Gulf Coast, it created a little bit of upward price movement, but demand does remain seasonally low here in Q1.
Speaker #11: And with some of the freeze outages here in the US Gulf Coast, it created a little bit of upward price movement. But demand does remain seasonally low here in the first quarter.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Blair with TPH. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Blair with TPH. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #5: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Blair, TF. Please proceed with your question.
Matthew Blair: Great. Thank you, and good morning. Could you talk a little bit more about the polypropylene market? Is it safe to say that polypropylene is actually weaker than polyethylene due to higher exposure to areas like autos and construction? And over the next couple of years, are you more optimistic on recovery in polyethylene or polypropylene? Thank you.
Matthew Blair: Great. Thank you, and good morning. Could you talk a little bit more about the polypropylene market? Is it safe to say that polypropylene is actually weaker than polyethylene due to higher exposure to areas like autos and construction? And over the next couple of years, are you more optimistic on recovery in polyethylene or polypropylene? Thank you.
Speaker #12: Great, thank you. Good morning. Could you talk about you and more about the polypropylene market? Is it safe to say that polypropylene is actually weaker than polyethylene due to higher exposure to areas like autos and construction?
Speaker #12: And over the next couple years, are you more optimistic on recovery in polyethylene or, thank you, polypropylene?
Peter Vanacker: Very good, Matthew, good question. I mean, clear, I mean, polypropylene, if you look at the different sectors and applications that polypropylene go in, which is, let's say, also for propylene oxide, a bit the same, it's more, I mean, dependent on demand in durable goods and how demand in durable goods is actually behaving, if it is growing or not. Now, let me go back a little bit in history. Everybody knows that in 2021, the demand for durable goods after the pandemic 2020 was exceptionally high. And since then, it has been quite weak, which is a quite long period that demand for durable goods has been weak. In addition to that, I mean, everybody sees and knows that the inflation rates are coming down, interest rates little by little, but they're coming down.
Peter Vanacker: Very good, Matthew, good question. I mean, clear, I mean, polypropylene, if you look at the different sectors and applications that polypropylene go in, which is, let's say, also for propylene oxide, a bit the same, it's more, I mean, dependent on demand in durable goods and how demand in durable goods is actually behaving, if it is growing or not. Now, let me go back a little bit in history. Everybody knows that in 2021, the demand for durable goods after the pandemic 2020 was exceptionally high. And since then, it has been quite weak, which is a quite long period that demand for durable goods has been weak. In addition to that, I mean, everybody sees and knows that the inflation rates are coming down, interest rates little by little, but they're coming down.
Speaker #1: Very good . Matthew . Good question . I mean , clear I mean polypropylene , if you look at the different sectors and applications that polypropylene go in , which is say also for propylene oxide , a bit the let's same , it's more I mean , dependent on demand in durable goods .
Speaker #1: And how demand and durable goods is actually behaving, if it is growing or not. Now, let me go back a little bit in history.
Speaker #1: knows that in 2021 , demand for durable goods after the pandemic , 2020 was exceptionally high since then it been has . And quite weak , which is a quite long period .
Speaker #1: That for demand durable goods has been weak . In addition to that , I mean , everybody sees and knows that the inflation rates are coming down , interest by rates little little , but they're coming down .
Peter Vanacker: Yes, consumer confidence is not yet up to the level that we would like to see, but if that leads them into consumer confidence also moving up, then one may expect that both for polypropylene and propylene oxide, that demand would also recover. With that, let me hand over to Kim.
Yes, consumer confidence is not yet up to the level that we would like to see, but if that leads them into consumer confidence also moving up, then one may expect that both for polypropylene and propylene oxide, that demand would also recover. With that, let me hand over to Kim.
Speaker #1: Yes , consumer confidence is not yet up to the level that we would like to see . if But that leads them into consumer confidence also moving up , then 1st May expect that both our polypropylene and propylene oxide , that demand would also recover .
Kim Foley: Okay. Yeah, Peter's alluded to the demand side of the equation. I'll just make a couple comments about the supply side. You know, we've mentioned in other calls, and I'm sure you've heard from others, the polypropylene cost curve globally is pretty flat. So most players don't export. I say most. For example, North America doesn't export polypropylene, but the Middle East and China, because China is so heavily oversupplied in polypropylene, they are exporting. And what you are seeing in the margins charts and the slides that we showed today is just that. We believe polypropylene is at the bottom based on the combination of oversupply and the demand factors that Peter alluded to. So as Peter alluded, as demand would come back and as people are rationalizing, it could have, to your question about which may bounce more, it may bounce higher initially.
Kim Foley: Okay. Yeah, Peter's alluded to the demand side of the equation. I'll just make a couple comments about the supply side. You know, we've mentioned in other calls, and I'm sure you've heard from others, the polypropylene cost curve globally is pretty flat. So most players don't export. I say most. For example, North America doesn't export polypropylene, but the Middle East and China, because China is so heavily oversupplied in polypropylene, they are exporting. And what you are seeing in the margins charts and the slides that we showed today is just that.
Speaker #1: With that, let me hand over to Kim.
Speaker #13: Okay. Yeah. Peter's alluded to the demand side of the equation.
Speaker #3: I'll just comments about make a the couple supply side . You know , we've mentioned in other calls and I'm sure you've heard from others , the polypropylene cost curve globally is pretty flat .
Speaker #3: so So most players don't export . I say most for example , North America doesn't export polypropylene , but the Middle and East China because China is so heavily oversupplied and polypropylene , they are exporting .
Speaker #3: And what you are seeing in the margin charts and the slides that we showed today is just that. We believe polypropylene is at the bottom based on the combination of oversupply and the demand factors that Peter alluded to.
We believe polypropylene is at the bottom based on the combination of oversupply and the demand factors that Peter alluded to. So as Peter alluded, as demand would come back and as people are rationalizing, it could have, to your question about which may bounce more, it may bounce higher initially.
Speaker #3: So as Peter alluded , as demand would come back and as people are rationalizing , it could have to your question about which may bounce more , it may bounce higher initially .
Peter Vanacker: You see quite some activities also going on in consolidation or rationalization, not just, I mean, of crackers, but of course also linked to that, I mean, polypropylene. And I would even say probably more heavy weighted, I mean, to polypropylene today than it is to polyethylene.
Peter Vanacker: You see quite some activities also going on in consolidation or rationalization, not just, I mean, of crackers, but of course also linked to that, I mean, polypropylene. And I would even say probably more heavy weighted, I mean, to polypropylene today than it is to polyethylene.
Speaker #1: quite some And you see activities also going on in consolidation , rationalization , not mean of just , I crackers , but of course also linked to that .
Speaker #1: I mean polypropylene . And I would even say probably more heavy weighted . I mean , to polypropylene today than it is to polyethylene .
Kim Foley: Agreed.
Kim Foley: Agreed.
Peter Vanacker: Mm-hmm.
Peter Vanacker: Mm-hmm.
Speaker #1: Agree .
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kevin McCarthy with Vertical Research Partners. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kevin McCarthy with Vertical Research Partners. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #5: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kevin McCarthy with Vertical Research Partners. Please proceed with your question.
Kevin McCarthy: Yes, thank you, and good morning. I'd appreciate your updated thoughts on the US Gulf Coast market for polyethylene. So maybe for Kim, I would love your thoughts on you know, kind of the contract pricing opportunity as you see it, and some of the consultants are inclined to give pretty good credit for price realizations. Maybe you could talk through what you would anticipate on a gross basis and also net of any you know, changes in annual contract discounts this time of year, February pricing that may be on the table. And then maybe on the other side of the coin, ethane feed has been quite volatile, so on the back of natural gas.
Kevin McCarthy: Yes, thank you, and good morning. I'd appreciate your updated thoughts on the US Gulf Coast market for polyethylene. So maybe for Kim, I would love your thoughts on you know, kind of the contract pricing opportunity as you see it, and some of the consultants are inclined to give pretty good credit for price realizations. Maybe you could talk through what you would anticipate on a gross basis and also net of any you know, changes in annual contract discounts this time of year, February pricing that may be on the table. And then maybe on the other side of the coin, ethane feed has been quite volatile, so on the back of natural gas.
Speaker #14: Yes . Thank you . And good morning . appreciate your updated thoughts on US Gulf Coast market the for for polyethylene . So maybe for for Kim .
Speaker #14: Love your thoughts on , you know , kind of the , the contract pricing opportunity . As you see it . And some of the consultants are give to pretty good credit for price realizations .
Speaker #14: Maybe you could talk through what you would anticipate on a on a gross basis . And also net of any , you changes in annual contract discounts .
Speaker #14: This time of now, February pricing that may be on the table, and then maybe on the other side of the ethane feed has, kind of, been quite volatile.
Kevin McCarthy: So, would love your thoughts on how you see that flowing through on a unit margin basis.
Kevin McCarthy: So, would love your thoughts on how you see that flowing through on a unit margin basis.
Speaker #14: So, on natural gas, the back of... would love—so, thoughts on how you see that flowing through on a unit margin basis.
Kim Foley: Okay. Kevin, lots of moving parts in that question. And let me just kind of talk through how I think about it. So if you think about the ACC data that many of us look at on the inventory side, you know, Q2 of 2025 probably was one of the high points with the 44 days right after liberation. You saw the industry kind of lower inventories in Q3 to 43.5. Now, while we don't have December data yet, November data shows for the Q4 down to 40, so big pool in the Q4. I would anticipate December probably even took that lower. So you're coming into the year on very, very low inventories in the industry. Number two, you had higher pricing in the Q4.
Kim Foley: Okay. Kevin, lots of moving parts in that question. And let me just kind of talk through how I think about it. So if you think about the ACC data that many of us look at on the inventory side, you know, Q2 of 2025 probably was one of the high points with the 44 days right after liberation. You saw the industry kind of lower inventories in Q3 to 43.5. Now, while we don't have December data yet, November data shows for the Q4 down to 40, so big pool in the Q4. I would anticipate December probably even took that lower. So you're coming into the year on very, very low inventories in the industry. Number two, you had higher pricing in the Q4.
Speaker #15: Okay .
Speaker #3: Kevin , lots of moving parts in that question . And let me just kind of talk through how I think about it . So if about you think the ACC data that many of at on the inventory side , you know second quarter , of 25 probably was one of the high points with the 44 days right after liberation , you saw the industry kind of lower inventories in third quarter to 43.5 .
Speaker #3: Now, while we don't have December data yet, November data shows for the fourth quarter down to 40. So, big pull in the fourth quarter.
Speaker #3: I say I would would anticipate December probably even took that lower . So you're coming into year the on very , very low inventories in the industry .
Speaker #3: Number two , you had higher pricing in the fourth quarter . So on the upstream side , you That was had ethane . higher .
Kim Foley: So on the upstream side, you had ethane that was higher, you had natural gas that was higher. So people were not making the profitability that they wanted to in the fourth quarter. Now, here comes Winter Storm Fern, and you've seen the variability in ethane and natural gas price, and you've seen industry producers like ourselves proactively take down derivative units through the storm. Now, that enabled a nice or seamless restart, but nonetheless, it took even more capacity off short term, so inventory or available inventory is very scarce. You also see export pricing increasing as we enter into the January timeframe, and you're now starting to see downstream converters announcing price increases. So I think when you put all those factors together, the price initiatives that are out in the market today are very supported.
So on the upstream side, you had ethane that was higher, you had natural gas that was higher. So people were not making the profitability that they wanted to in the fourth quarter. Now, here comes Winter Storm Fern, and you've seen the variability in ethane and natural gas price, and you've seen industry producers like ourselves proactively take down derivative units through the storm. Now, that enabled a nice or seamless restart, but nonetheless, it took even more capacity off short term, so inventory or available inventory is very scarce. You also see export pricing increasing as we enter into the January timeframe, and you're now starting to see downstream converters announcing price increases. So I think when you put all those factors together, the price initiatives that are out in the market today are very supported.
Speaker #3: You had natural gas that was higher. So people were not making the profitability that they wanted to, in the fourth quarter.
Speaker #3: Now here comes winter storm Fern, and you've seen the variability in ethane and natural gas price. And you've seen industry producers like ourselves proactively take down units, derivative through the storm.
Speaker #3: Now , that enabled a knees or seamless restart , but nonetheless , it took even more capacity off short term . So inventory or available inventory is very scarce .
Speaker #3: You also see export pricing increasing as we enter into the January timeframe, and you're now starting to see downstream converters announcing price increases.
Speaker #3: So I think when you put all those factors together, that the price initiatives that are out in the market today are very supported.
Peter Vanacker: Yeah, good answer, Kim. I mean, so you can clearly hear, I mean, that we are seeing lots of indicators that are supporting, I mean, our announced price increases, and we expect that integrated margins, as a consequence, should go up. I mean, demand has been very robust.
Peter Vanacker: Yeah, good answer, Kim. I mean, so you can clearly hear, I mean, that we are seeing lots of indicators that are supporting, I mean, our announced price increases, and we expect that integrated margins, as a consequence, should go up. I mean, demand has been very robust.
Speaker #1: Yeah . Good answer . Kim . I mean , so you can clearly hear I mean , that we are seeing lots of indicators that are supporting , I mean , our announced price increases and we expect that as a consequence should go up .
Speaker #1: I mean, demand has been very robust.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Aleksey Yefremov with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Aleksey Yefremov with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #5: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Aleksey Yefremov with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.
Aleksey Yefremov: Thank you. Good morning. You have a good window into China and the local policy. What's your latest thinking in terms of anti-involution policies? Will it have any more specific news, maybe in the next few quarters, there? And has your thinking changed at all over the last three months?
Aleksey Yefremov: Thank you. Good morning. You have a good window into China and the local policy. What's your latest thinking in terms of anti-involution policies? Will it have any more specific news, maybe in the next few quarters, there? And has your thinking changed at all over the last three months?
Speaker #16: You. Thank you. Good morning. You have a good window into China and the policy. What's the latest local thinking in terms of your anti-evolution policies?
Speaker #16: Will it have any more specific news next, maybe in the next few quarters, as you are there? And do you think you've changed it all over the last three months?
Peter Vanacker: Thank you, Aleksey. It's a good question, I mean, on China. I mean, a couple of points that I wanna make. I mean, we've seen, I mean, in China that there has been also some price increases on a modest level, but there has been some price increases in January. And that probably also has to do, I mean, with the fact, I mean, that there was some inventory depletion, and growth, I mean, continued to be at around a 4% level for polyolefins. When we look at the anti-involution and with our people that we have on the ground, and all the relationships that we have in our technology business unit, there is a lot of movement, there is a lot of discussion.
Peter Vanacker: Thank you, Aleksey. It's a good question, I mean, on China. I mean, a couple of points that I wanna make. I mean, we've seen, I mean, in China that there has been also some price increases on a modest level, but there has been some price increases in January. And that probably also has to do, I mean, with the fact, I mean, that there was some inventory depletion, and growth, I mean, continued to be at around a 4% level for polyolefins. When we look at the anti-involution and with our people that we have on the ground, and all the relationships that we have in our technology business unit, there is a lot of movement, there is a lot of discussion.
Speaker #1: . Thank you Alexia . It's a good question . I mean , on on China , I mean , a couple of points that I want to make .
Speaker #1: I mean , we've seen them in in China that there has been also some price increases on a modest level , but there has been some price increases in January and that probably also has to do , I mean , with the fact that there was some inventory depletion and growth .
Speaker #1: I mean, continued to be at around a 4% level for polyolefins. When we look at the anti-involution and with our people that are on the ground and all the relationships that we have in our Technology business unit, there is a lot of movement.
Peter Vanacker: And we're waiting to see, of course, what the decision will be, but we believe, I mean, that, because of all the discussions that are happening, that there is a very diligent and very serious, evaluation that is going on, by the NDRC. So we expect that something will come out. Will it be in Q2? Remains to be seen, but I mean, there is lots of pressure, I mean, behind it, and we hear, I mean, for example, criteria for asset rationalizations, not at 300 KT for a cracker, but 500 KT, these kind of discussions. Another thing I wanna point to is, you see some other policies that are being put in place, like, we heard, I mean, from a new naphtha consumption tax, that is being put in place.
Speaker #1: There is a lot of discussion and we're waiting to see , of course , decision will what the be . But we believe , I mean , that because of all the discussions that are happening , that there is a very very diligent and serious evaluation that is going on by the NRC .
And we're waiting to see, of course, what the decision will be, but we believe, I mean, that, because of all the discussions that are happening, that there is a very diligent and very serious, evaluation that is going on, by the NDRC. So we expect that something will come out. Will it be in Q2? Remains to be seen, but I mean, there is lots of pressure, I mean, behind it, and we hear, I mean, for example, criteria for asset rationalizations, not at 300 KT for a cracker, but 500 KT, these kind of discussions. Another thing I wanna point to is, you see some other policies that are being put in place, like, we heard, I mean, from a new naphtha consumption tax, that is being put in place.
Speaker #1: So we expect that something will come out . Will it be in Q2 ? Remains to be seen , but I mean , there is lots of pressure .
Speaker #1: I mean , behind it . And we hear I mean , example for , criteria for asset rationalizations , at 300 kt not for a cracker , but 500 kt .
Speaker #1: These kinds of discussions. Another thing I want to point to is, you see some other policies that are being put in place, like we heard.
Speaker #1: I mean , from a new NAFTA consumption tax is being that put in place , not small . I mean , for merchant domestic transactions , $300 per ton .
Peter Vanacker: Not small, I mean, for merchant domestic transactions, $300 per ton. Yes, refundable, but it would have to be paid, first of all, upfront, which means, I mean, cash flow, and especially if you have non-integrated players, non-integrated ethylene cracker capacity in China is about 11 million tons. Remember that, so that's not. It's not small. They would have to then pay upfront, I mean, that new naphtha consumption tax. So what I wanna say is there is a lot happening, I mean, in China, that all points in the same direction, and that is making sure that there is also a rationalization going on in that market. I've had another look, I mean, also at the numbers that we presented on a global basis in terms of capacity rationalization.
Not small, I mean, for merchant domestic transactions, $300 per ton. Yes, refundable, but it would have to be paid, first of all, upfront, which means, I mean, cash flow, and especially if you have non-integrated players, non-integrated ethylene cracker capacity in China is about 11 million tons. Remember that, so that's not. It's not small. They would have to then pay upfront, I mean, that new naphtha consumption tax. So what I wanna say is there is a lot happening, I mean, in China, that all points in the same direction, and that is making sure that there is also a rationalization going on in that market. I've had another look, I mean, also at the numbers that we presented on a global basis in terms of capacity rationalization.
Speaker #1: , refundable , Yes but have to it would paid . First of all , upfront , which means , I mean cash flow and especially if you have not integrated players Non-integrated Italy in cracker capacity in China is about 11 million tons .
Speaker #1: Remember that . So that's not it's not small . They would have to then pay upfront . I mean that new NAFTA consumption tax .
Speaker #1: So what I want to say is there is a lot happening. I mean in China, that all points in the same direction, and that is making sure that there is also a ongoing rationalization in that market.
Speaker #1: another look . I I've had also at the numbers that we presented on a global basis in terms of capacity rationalization . Remember the slide that we showed during the third quarter earnings results at that time ?
Peter Vanacker: Remember the slide that we showed during the Q3 earnings results? At that time, we talked about a little bit more than 21 million tons of ethylene capacity in the rationalization, and that did not include the anti-involution. When we look at the further announcements here and there, news on the grounds, we're now looking more at a bit more than 23 million tons of capacity rationalization, again, ethylene, capacity rationalization, and still that does not include, I mean, the anti-involution.
Remember the slide that we showed during the Q3 earnings results? At that time, we talked about a little bit more than 21 million tons of ethylene capacity in the rationalization, and that did not include the anti-involution. When we look at the further announcements here and there, news on the grounds, we're now looking more at a bit more than 23 million tons of capacity rationalization, again, ethylene, capacity rationalization, and still that does not include, I mean, the anti-involution.
Speaker #1: Talked about a little bit more than 21 million tons of Italy in capacity. Rationalization. And that did not include the anti.
Speaker #1: When we look at the further announcements here and there, news on the ground, we're now looking more at a bit more than 23 million tons of capacity rationalization.
Speaker #1: Again, Italy, and yeah, capacity rationalization. And still, that does not include the anti-inflammation.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mike Sisson with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mike Sisson with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.
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Kim Foley: Hey, good morning, guys. In OP Americas, how much of that capacity do you export? And, you know, export margins have been noticeably kind of zippo or very low relative to domestic. You know, what do you think needs to happen to get that part of those margins up over time? And, you know, should you reduce your exposure to export, given, you know, it seems like it's more structurally impaired than the domestic profitability?
Mike Sisson: Hey, good morning, guys. In OP Americas, how much of that capacity do you export? And, you know, export margins have been noticeably kind of zippo or very low relative to domestic. You know, what do you think needs to happen to get that part of those margins up over time? And, you know, should you reduce your exposure to export, given, you know, it seems like it's more structurally impaired than the domestic profitability?
Speaker #17: Hey , good morning guys . In an OPM Americas . How much of that capacity do you export and export margins have been noticeably kind of Zippo or very low relative to domestic .
Speaker #17: What do you think needs to happen to get that part of the those margins up over time ? And should you reduce your to exposure export given , you know , it's like seems it's more structurally impaired than than the domestic profitability .
Peter Vanacker: Well, Mike, historically, I mean, we always had lesser exports. If you look, I mean, because your question mainly goes, I assume, I mean, to polyethylene. We always had lesser exports because of the portfolio of products, I mean, that we have that are more differentiated. So we are selling more in the domestic market as a consequence and therefore lesser dependent on polyethylene exports. And with that, Kim, anything you want to add?
Peter Vanacker: Well, Mike, historically, I mean, we always had lesser exports. If you look, I mean, because your question mainly goes, I assume, I mean, to polyethylene. We always had lesser exports because of the portfolio of products, I mean, that we have that are more differentiated. So we are selling more in the domestic market as a consequence and therefore lesser dependent on polyethylene exports. And with that, Kim, anything you want to add?
Speaker #1: But , Mike , I mean , we always had . I mean , lesser exports . If you look I mean , because your question mainly goes , I assume , I mean , to polyethylene , we always had lesser exports because of the portfolio of products , I mean , that we have that are more differentiated .
Speaker #1: So, we are selling more in the domestic market as a consequence, and therefore are less dependent on polyethylene exports. Now, with that—Kim, anything you want to add?
Kim Foley: Yeah, I would just say in general, I think we've typically said to the investment world that we're, you know, 10 to 15% lower than the industry on our exports. So if you look at LYB's exports in 2024 and 2025, we were at 34 and 38% versus an industry number of closer to, like, 48. The other thing I would say is you asked kind of about pricing and how to make that a better margin. I think 2025 was a very difficult year to look at export pricing, and actually, I would even say domestic regional pricing. There were so many changes and thoughts around tariffs, and supply chains were constantly changing. I think an upside to 2026 is if tariffs normalize, supply chains will normalize, and everybody will have an opportunity to have the best net back to their individual region.
Kim Foley: Yeah, I would just say in general, I think we've typically said to the investment world that we're, you know, 10 to 15% lower than the industry on our exports. So if you look at LYB's exports in 2024 and 2025, we were at 34 and 38% versus an industry number of closer to, like, 48. The other thing I would say is you asked kind of about pricing and how to make that a better margin. I think 2025 was a very difficult year to look at export pricing, and actually, I would even say domestic regional pricing. There were so many changes and thoughts around tariffs, and supply chains were constantly changing. I think an upside to 2026 is if tariffs normalize, supply chains will normalize, and everybody will have an opportunity to have the best net back to their individual region.
Speaker #3: Yeah , I would just say in general , I think we've typically said to to the investment world that we're , you know , 10 to 15% lower than the industry on a exports .
Speaker #3: So if you look at Libby's exports in '24 and '25, we were 34% and 38% versus an industry number of closer to, like, 48%.
Speaker #3: The other thing I would say is you asked kind of about how to make that a better margin. I think '25 was a very difficult year to look at.
Speaker #3: Export pricing. And actually, I would even say domestic and regional pricing. There were so many changes in thoughts around tariffs, and supply chains were constantly changing.
Speaker #3: I think an upside to '26 is if tariffs normalize, supply chains will normalize, and everybody will have an opportunity to have the best netback to their individual region.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Josh Spector with UBS. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Josh Spector with UBS. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #5: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Josh Spector with UBS. Please proceed with your question.
Josh Spector: Hi, good morning. Just a quick one. I was wondering on the Olefins EAI. I mean, I know there are a number of shutdowns and outages, some outside of your control from a supplier perspective. How much of a detriment was that in Q4, and how much of that do you expect to come back in Q1? Thanks.
Josh Spector: Hi, good morning. Just a quick one. I was wondering on the Olefins EAI. I mean, I know there are a number of shutdowns and outages, some outside of your control from a supplier perspective. How much of a detriment was that in Q4, and how much of that do you expect to come back in Q1? Thanks.
Speaker #18: Hey . Good morning . Just a quick one . I was wondering on the olefins II . I know there are a number of shutdowns and outages .
Speaker #18: Some outside of your control from a supplier perspective. How much of a detriment was that in fourth quarter, and how much of that do you expect to come back in first quarter?
Speaker #18: Thanks .
Kim Foley: The Olefins impact for EAI in the Q4 was $35 million.
Kim Foley: The Olefins impact for EAI in the Q4 was $35 million.
Speaker #3: So the olefins impact for EIA in the fourth quarter was $35 million.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Hassan Ahmed with Alembic Global Advisors. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Hassan Ahmed with Alembic Global Advisors. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #5: Our next question comes from the line of Hassan Ahmed with Alembic Global. Please proceed with your question.
Hassan Ahmed: Morning, Peter. Peter, I just wanted to get a little more granular about, you know, a couple of comments you made earlier about rationalizations. You know, you talked about that 20 million ton figure of rationalizations that you guys highlighted in your Q3 presentation going up to 23 million, and obviously that not including the Chinese anti-involution potential. I mean, you know, as I sort of sit there and run the numbers and try to sort of identify announced rationalizations where an actual facility, named facility, you know, has been identified, you know, the number comes up closer to around 10 million. And I know that obviously the Koreans are talking about, you know, 2.5 to 3.5 million, but again, some of the facilities have not been identified.
Hassan Ahmed: Morning, Peter. Peter, I just wanted to get a little more granular about, you know, a couple of comments you made earlier about rationalizations. You know, you talked about that 20 million ton figure of rationalizations that you guys highlighted in your Q3 presentation going up to 23 million, and obviously that not including the Chinese anti-involution potential. I mean, you know, as I sort of sit there and run the numbers and try to sort of identify announced rationalizations where an actual facility, named facility, you know, has been identified, you know, the number comes up closer to around 10 million.
Speaker #19: Morning , Peter . Peter , I just wanted to get a little more granular about , you know , a couple of comments you made earlier about rationalizations .
Speaker #19: You know, you talked about that 20 million ton figure of rationalizations that you guys highlighted in your Q3 presentation going up to 23 million.
Speaker #19: And obviously that not including the Chinese anti involution potential . I mean , you know , as I sort of sit there and run the numbers and try to sort of identify announced rationalizations where an actual facility named facility , you know , has been has been identified , you know , the number comes up closer to around 10 million .
Hassan Ahmed: And I know that obviously the Koreans are talking about, you know, 2.5 to 3.5 million, but again, some of the facilities have not been identified. So I, I guess, long-winded way of asking you, how comfortable are you with that 23 million ton figure, clearly with some of the facilities not having been identified as yet?
Speaker #19: And I know that obviously the Koreans are talking about , you know , two and a half to 3.5 million . But again , some of the facilities have not been identified .
Hassan Ahmed: So I, I guess, long-winded way of asking you, how comfortable are you with that 23 million ton figure, clearly with some of the facilities not having been identified as yet?
Speaker #19: So I guess, long-winded way of asking you—how comfortable are you with that 23 million ton figure? Clearly, with some of the facilities being identified as not having yet...
Peter Vanacker: Yeah, it's a good question, Hassan, and thanks for asking that question. I mean, first of all, I am comparing. My baseline is 2020. Just to be clear on that, if... And to your questions on South Korea, I have nothing included in those numbers on closures to date since 2020 or announced closures. But it is in my number as an anticipated closure of around, I mean, 3.7 million tons of ethylene capacity. So the vast majority clearly continues to be in Europe, where we see closures to date of around 5 million tons. Announced closures on top of the 5 million tons of 2 million tons, and I have not included yet any anticipated closures in the European region. But if you ask me, I think we're gonna see more.
Peter Vanacker: Yeah, it's a good question, Hassan, and thanks for asking that question. I mean, first of all, I am comparing. My baseline is 2020. Just to be clear on that, if... And to your questions on South Korea, I have nothing included in those numbers on closures to date since 2020 or announced closures. But it is in my number as an anticipated closure of around, I mean, 3.7 million tons of ethylene capacity. So the vast majority clearly continues to be in Europe, where we see closures to date of around 5 million tons. Announced closures on top of the 5 million tons of 2 million tons, and I have not included yet any anticipated closures in the European region. But if you ask me, I think we're gonna see more.
Speaker #1: Yeah , it's a good question , Hassan , and thanks for asking that question . I mean , first of all , I am comparing my baseline .
Speaker #1: Is 2020 . Just to on be clear that , if and to your questions on South Korea , I have nothing included in those numbers on closures to date .
Speaker #1: Since 2020 . Or announced closures , but it is in my number as an anticipated closure of around . I mean , 3.7 million tons of Italy in capacity .
Speaker #1: So the vast majority clearly continues to be Europe, where we see closures to date of around 5 million tons, with announced closures on top of the 5 million tons of 2 million tons.
Speaker #1: And I have not included yet any anticipated closures in the European region. But if you ask me, I think we're going to see more.
Peter Vanacker: I think we have not seen everything. There may be more, I mean, to follow. There has been some closures, I mean, of course, also in China, that maybe not a lot of people talk about, since 2020, which adds up, I mean, to around 5 million tons. There have been some closures in the meantime, smaller number that have been announced, and as I said, I mean, anti-involution is not included in that. Then, of course, in Southeast Asia, there have been closures announced by our peers, like in Singapore. So you need to add them up as well. Yeah, it's about 3 million tons in Southeast Asia, closures to date, and then another 1 million tons of announced closures. So...
I think we have not seen everything. There may be more, I mean, to follow. There has been some closures, I mean, of course, also in China, that maybe not a lot of people talk about, since 2020, which adds up, I mean, to around 5 million tons. There have been some closures in the meantime, smaller number that have been announced, and as I said, I mean, anti-involution is not included in that. Then, of course, in Southeast Asia, there have been closures announced by our peers, like in Singapore. So you need to add them up as well. Yeah, it's about 3 million tons in Southeast Asia, closures to date, and then another 1 million tons of announced closures. So...
Speaker #1: think we I have not seen everything . There may be more . I mean , to follow . There has been some closures .
Speaker #1: I mean , of course , also in China that maybe not a lot of people talk about since 2020 , which adds up , I to around 5 million tons .
Speaker #1: And there have been some closures in the meantime . Smaller number that have been announced . And as I said , I mean , Anti-inversion is not is not included in that .
Speaker #1: And then of course , in Southeast Asia , there have been closures announced our by peers , like in Singapore . So you need to up as well .
Speaker #1: Yeah, it's about 3 million tons in Southeast Asia closures to date. And then, a million tons of announced closures. So, and then I haven't talked about Japan, but also in Japan.
Peter Vanacker: And then I haven't talked about Japan, but also in Japan, you already have closures that have been executed to date, and then, you also have announced closures. So in total, that adds up to about 2. We've anticipated another 1.5 million tons. So I hope that helps you, Hassan.
And then I haven't talked about Japan, but also in Japan, you already have closures that have been executed to date, and then, you also have announced closures. So in total, that adds up to about 2. We've anticipated another 1.5 million tons. So I hope that helps you, Hassan.
Speaker #1: You already have closures that have been executed to date, and then you also have announced closures. So in total, up to about two, with anticipated another 1.5 million tons.
Speaker #1: So, hope that helps you, Hassan.
Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question and answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Vanacker for any final comments.
Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question and answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Vanacker for any final comments.
Speaker #5: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you. That concludes our question and answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Vanacker for any final comments.
Peter Vanacker: Thank you again for all your excellent questions, and as I said in my prepared remarks, this is one of the most challenging and longest own turns in our industry. But we see clear evidence of reduced rates of capacity additions and rationalization of older assets being implemented globally that should help, I mean, to accelerate a recovery. Our LYB team has over-delivered on our promises to control the controllables by outperforming in safety, operational excellence, our Cash Improvement Plan, and our Value Enhancement Program during 2025. And that, that resulted in the fourth consecutive year, delivering an industry-leading cash conversion that exceeded 90%. I want to thank, I mean, the global LYB team for delivering value and maximizing cash conversion during these challenging times while operating safely and reliably.
Peter Vanacker: Thank you again for all your excellent questions, and as I said in my prepared remarks, this is one of the most challenging and longest own turns in our industry. But we see clear evidence of reduced rates of capacity additions and rationalization of older assets being implemented globally that should help, I mean, to accelerate a recovery. Our LYB team has over-delivered on our promises to control the controllables by outperforming in safety, operational excellence, our Cash Improvement Plan, and our Value Enhancement Program during 2025. And that, that resulted in the fourth consecutive year, delivering an industry-leading cash conversion that exceeded 90%. I want to thank, I mean, the global LYB team for delivering value and maximizing cash conversion during these challenging times while operating safely and reliably.
Speaker #1: Thank you again for all your excellent questions. And as I said in my prepared remarks, this is one of the most challenging and longest-known turns in our industry.
Speaker #1: But we see clear evidence of reduced rates of capacity additions and rationalization of older assets being implemented globally. That should help to accelerate the recovery.
Speaker #1: Our team has overdelivered on our promises to control the controllables by outperforming in safety, excellence, and operations. Our cash improvement plan and our value enhancement program during 2025.
Speaker #1: And that resulted in the fourth consecutive year delivering an industry-leading cash conversion that exceeded 90%. I want to thank the global team for delivering value and maximizing cash conversion during these challenging times.
Speaker #1: While operating safely and reliably, performance has convinced us to target another $500 million cash improvement in 2026, compared to 2025, and continue to progress on our value enhancement program by raising the bar to $1.5 billion of recurring annual EBITDA by 2028.
Peter Vanacker: This performance has convinced us to target another $500 million cash improvements in 2026 compared to 2025, and continue to progress on our Value Enhancement Program by raising the bar to $1.5 billion of recurring annual EBITDA by 2028. We remain committed to our long-term strategy, but have focused our investment on projects that are immediately profitable. Another way to look at this prolonged downturn is as follows: I mean, the longer we are at the bottom of the cycle, the closer we get back to an upcycle, and LYB will be ready to capture value accordingly. I wish you all a great weekend. Stay well and stay safe. Thank you.
This performance has convinced us to target another $500 million cash improvements in 2026 compared to 2025, and continue to progress on our Value Enhancement Program by raising the bar to $1.5 billion of recurring annual EBITDA by 2028. We remain committed to our long-term strategy, but have focused our investment on projects that are immediately profitable. Another way to look at this prolonged downturn is as follows: I mean, the longer we are at the bottom of the cycle, the closer we get back to an upcycle, and LYB will be ready to capture value accordingly. I wish you all a great weekend. Stay well and stay safe. Thank you.
Speaker #1: We remain committed to our strategy , but have focused our investment on projects that are immediately profitable . Another way to look at this prolonged downturn is following is as follows I mean , the longer we are at the bottom of the cycle , the closer we get back to an upcycle and Libby will be capture ready to value accordingly .
Speaker #1: I wish you all a great weekend. Stay well and stay safe. Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
Operator: Thank you. This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
