Ecolab Q4 2025 Ecolab Inc Earnings Call | AllMind AI Earnings | AllMind AI
Q4 2025 Ecolab Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Greetings. Welcome to Ecolab's fourth quarter 2025 earnings release conference call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation.
Operator: Greetings. Welcome to Ecolab's Q4 2025 Earnings Release Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press *0 from your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. At this time, it's now my pleasure to introduce your host, Andy Hedberg, Vice President of Investor Relations. Andy, you may now begin.
Operator: Greetings. Welcome to Ecolab's Q4 2025 Earnings Release Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press *0 from your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. At this time, it's now my pleasure to introduce your host, Andy Hedberg, Vice President of Investor Relations. Andy, you may now begin.
Speaker #1: If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero from your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.
Speaker #1: At this time, it is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Andy Hedberg, Vice President of Investor Relations. Andy, you may now begin.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Hello, everyone, and welcome to Ecolab's fourth quarter conference call. With me today are Christophe Beck, Ecolab's Chairman and CEO, and Scott Kirkland, our CFO.
Andy Hedberg: Thank you. Hello everyone, and welcome to Ecolab's Q4 Conference Call. With me today are Christophe Beck, Ecolab's Chairman and CEO, and Scott Kirkland, our CFO. A discussion of our results along with our earnings release, and the slides referencing the quarter's results are available on Ecolab's website at ecolab.com/investors. Please take a moment to read the cautionary statements in these materials, which state that this teleconference and the associated supplemental materials include estimates of future performance. These are forward-looking statements, and actual results could differ materially from those projected. Factors that could cause actual results to differ are described under the risk factors section in our most recent Form 10-K and in our poster materials. We also refer you to the supplemental diluted earnings per share information in the release. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Christophe Beck for his comments.
Andy Hedberg: Thank you. Hello everyone, and welcome to Ecolab's Q4 Conference Call. With me today are Christophe Beck, Ecolab's Chairman and CEO, and Scott Kirkland, our CFO. A discussion of our results along with our earnings release, and the slides referencing the quarter's results are available on Ecolab's website at ecolab.com/investors. Please take a moment to read the cautionary statements in these materials, which state that this teleconference and the associated supplemental materials include estimates of future performance. These are forward-looking statements, and actual results could differ materially from those projected. Factors that could cause actual results to differ are described under the risk factors section in our most recent Form 10-K and in our poster materials. We also refer you to the supplemental diluted earnings per share information in the release. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Christophe Beck for his comments.
Speaker #2: Our discussion of our results, along with our earnings release and the slides referencing the quarter's results, are available on Ecolab's website at ecolab.com/investor. Please take a moment to read the cautionary statements in these materials, which state that this teleconference and the associated supplemental materials include estimates of future performance.
Speaker #2: These are forward-looking statements, and actual results could differ materially from those projected. Factors that could cause actual results to differ are described under the risk factors section in our most recent Form 10-K and in our poster materials.
Speaker #2: We also refer you to the supplemental diluted earnings per share information in the release. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Christophe Beck for his
Speaker #2: comments. Thank you so much,
Christophe Beck: Thank you so much, Andy, and welcome to everyone joining us today. 2025 was another record year for Ecolab with record-breaking sales, margins, earnings per share, and free cash flow. This was all enabled by the exceptional total value our team and technologies delivered to customers, helping them achieve better business outcomes, operational performance, and environmental impact. Thanks to our team's dedication and expertise, we're entering 2026 with strong momentum and are very well positioned to deliver continued high performance with confidence. In Q4, we delivered 15% adjusted EPS growth, with quarterly growth strengthening throughout the year. This was driven by accelerating underlying sales growth and continued strong OI margin expansion. Organic sales grew 3%, driven by 3% value pricing and positive volume growth. Volume actually was stronger than it appeared, with performance improving across most of our businesses.
Christophe Beck: Thank you so much, Andy, and welcome to everyone joining us today. 2025 was another record year for Ecolab with record-breaking sales, margins, earnings per share, and free cash flow. This was all enabled by the exceptional total value our team and technologies delivered to customers, helping them achieve better business outcomes, operational performance, and environmental impact. Thanks to our team's dedication and expertise, we're entering 2026 with strong momentum and are very well positioned to deliver continued high performance with confidence. In Q4, we delivered 15% adjusted EPS growth, with quarterly growth strengthening throughout the year. This was driven by accelerating underlying sales growth and continued strong OI margin expansion. Organic sales grew 3%, driven by 3% value pricing and positive volume growth. Volume actually was stronger than it appeared, with performance improving across most of our businesses.
Speaker #3: Andy, and welcome to everyone joining us today. 2025 was another record year for Ecolab, with record-breaking sales, margins, earnings per share, and free cash flow.
Speaker #3: This was all enabled by the exceptional total value our team and technologies delivered to customers, helping them achieve better business outcomes, operational performance, and environmental impact.
Speaker #3: Thanks to our team's dedication and expertise, we're entering 2026 with strong momentum and are very well positioned to deliver continued high performance with confidence. In Q4, we delivered 15% adjusted EPS growth, with quarterly growth strengthening throughout the year.
Speaker #3: This was driven by accelerating underlying sales growth and continued strong OI margin expansion. Organic sales grew 3%, driven by 3% value pricing and positive volume growth.
Speaker #3: Volume actually was stronger than it appeared, with performance improving across most of our businesses. Food and beverage accelerated to 5%, pest elimination and life sciences both accelerated to 7%, and specialty continued to drive significant share gains growing 7% as well.
Christophe Beck: Food and beverage accelerated to 5%, pest elimination and life sciences both accelerated to 7%, and specialty continued to drive significant share gains, growing 7% as well. Institutional underlying sales growth was consistent with prior quarters, excluding the unexpected short-term impact from lower distributor inventories. We also maintained strong double-digit growth in Global High-Tech and Ecolab Digital. Taken together, this strong momentum lifted Ecolab's underlying volume growth to 2%, driving mid-single-digit underlying organic sales growth when we exclude impact from basic industries, paper, and these lower distributor inventories. In other words, our core businesses and our growth engines are doing very well. We expect the distributor impact to largely normalize in Q1 2026. We also continue to anticipate basic industries and paper's performance to progressively improve in 2026.
Christophe Beck: Food and beverage accelerated to 5%, pest elimination and life sciences both accelerated to 7%, and specialty continued to drive significant share gains, growing 7% as well. Institutional underlying sales growth was consistent with prior quarters, excluding the unexpected short-term impact from lower distributor inventories. We also maintained strong double-digit growth in Global High-Tech and Ecolab Digital. Taken together, this strong momentum lifted Ecolab's underlying volume growth to 2%, driving mid-single-digit underlying organic sales growth when we exclude impact from basic industries, paper, and these lower distributor inventories. In other words, our core businesses and our growth engines are doing very well. We expect the distributor impact to largely normalize in Q1 2026. We also continue to anticipate basic industries and paper's performance to progressively improve in 2026.
Speaker #3: Institutional's underlying sales growth was consistent with prior quarters, excluding the unexpected short-term impact from lower distributor inventories. We also maintained strong double-digit growth in Global High-Tech and Ecolab Digital.
Speaker #3: And taken together, this strong momentum lifted Ecolab's underlying volume growth to 2%, driving mid-single-digit underlying organic sales growth when we exclude impact from basic industries, paper, and these lower distributor inventories.
Speaker #3: In other words, our core businesses and our growth engines are doing very well. We expect the distributor impact to largely normalize in the first quarter of 2026.
Speaker #3: We also continue to anticipate basic industries and paper's performance to progressively improve in 2026. Combined with strong new business wins and continued momentum across our growth engines, we expect volume growth to get back to 1% as we exit the first quarter, with growth accelerating further as the year progresses.
Christophe Beck: Combined with strong new business wins and continued momentum across our growth engines, we expect volume growth to get back to 1% as we exit Q1, with growth accelerating further as the year progresses. Our strengthening underlying sales drove organic operating income growth of 12% and expanded our organic operating income margin by 140 basis points to 18.5%. This resulted in a full-year operating income margin of 18%, 150 basis points versus last year. We're confident we can continue to expand our OI margin well beyond the 20%. Now, before I move into our 2026 outlook, I want to take a moment to acknowledge current events in Minnesota. Ecolab has customers in more than 170 countries, but Minnesota has been our home for more than a century. It is where our headquarters sits and where thousands of our colleagues, customers, and communities count on us every single day.
Christophe Beck: Combined with strong new business wins and continued momentum across our growth engines, we expect volume growth to get back to 1% as we exit Q1, with growth accelerating further as the year progresses. Our strengthening underlying sales drove organic operating income growth of 12% and expanded our organic operating income margin by 140 basis points to 18.5%. This resulted in a full-year operating income margin of 18%, 150 basis points versus last year. We're confident we can continue to expand our OI margin well beyond the 20%. Now, before I move into our 2026 outlook, I want to take a moment to acknowledge current events in Minnesota. Ecolab has customers in more than 170 countries, but Minnesota has been our home for more than a century. It is where our headquarters sits and where thousands of our colleagues, customers, and communities count on us every single day.
Speaker #3: Our strengthening underlying sales drove organic operating income growth of 12% and expanded our organic operating income margin by 140 basis points to 18.5%. This resulted in a fully operating income margin of 18%, up 150 basis points versus last year.
Speaker #3: We confidently can continue to expand our OI margin well beyond the 20%. Now, before I move into our 2026 outlook, I want to take a moment to acknowledge current events in Minnesota.
Speaker #3: Ecolab's customers are in more than 170 countries, but Minnesota has been our home for more than a century. It is where our headquarters sit, and where thousands of our colleagues, customers, and communities count on us every single day.
Speaker #3: In recent weeks, Ecolab, along with other business leaders across the state, have come together to call for de-escalation and a constructive path forward. As a company that has always believed in doing well by doing good, we stepped in early to help rally business leadership and support the efforts underway.
Christophe Beck: In recent weeks, Ecolab, along with other business leaders across the state, have come together to call for de-escalation and a constructive path forward. As a company that has always believed in doing well by doing good, we stepped in early to help rally business leadership and support the efforts underway. I'm proud of the progress we're seeing and encouraged by the positive momentum. As expressed in an open letter signed by 60 Minnesota-based CEOs, the business community has an important role in supporting stability, strengthening local businesses, and helping build a brighter future for Minnesota. We will continue to work together to help ensure Minnesota remains a strong and resilient place to live, work, and grow. Now, looking ahead to 2026, our priorities are very clear. First, it's rapidly grow Total Value Delivered to customers across our core businesses. Second, it's to accelerate our One Ecolab Growth Initiative.
Christophe Beck: In recent weeks, Ecolab, along with other business leaders across the state, have come together to call for de-escalation and a constructive path forward. As a company that has always believed in doing well by doing good, we stepped in early to help rally business leadership and support the efforts underway. I'm proud of the progress we're seeing and encouraged by the positive momentum. As expressed in an open letter signed by 60 Minnesota-based CEOs, the business community has an important role in supporting stability, strengthening local businesses, and helping build a brighter future for Minnesota. We will continue to work together to help ensure Minnesota remains a strong and resilient place to live, work, and grow. Now, looking ahead to 2026, our priorities are very clear. First, it's rapidly grow Total Value Delivered to customers across our core businesses. Second, it's to accelerate our One Ecolab Growth Initiative.
Speaker #3: I'm proud of the progress we're seeing and encouraged by the positive momentum. As expressed in an open letter signed by 60 Minnesota-based CEOs, the business community has an important role in supporting stability, strengthening local businesses, and helping build a brighter future for Minnesota.
Speaker #3: We will continue to work together to help ensure Minnesota remains a strong, resilient place to live, work, and grow. Now, looking ahead to 2026, our priorities are very clear.
Speaker #3: First, it's rapidly growing total value delivered to customers across our core businesses. Second, it's to accelerate our One Ecolab Growth Initiative. And third, it's to fuel our growth engines.
Christophe Beck: And third, it's to fuel our growth engines. We expect 3% to 4% organic sales growth this year, with growth accelerating as the year progresses, driven by strengthening volume gains and continued 2% to 3% value price. Total reported sales, including the Ovivo electronics acquisition, is expected to grow upper single digits in 2026. And with this strong growth, OI margin is anticipated to expand 100 to 150 basis points to more than 19%, resulting in an OI growth of 14% to 16%. Altogether, this is expected to drive strong EPS growth of 12% to 15%, which includes the headwind of additional non-cash amortization from the Ovivo acquisition. Our first priority is to rapidly grow total value delivered, or as we call it, TVD. Across our core businesses, TVD is our formal framework for measuring the business outcomes, operational performance, and environmental impact we deliver to customers.
Christophe Beck: And third, it's to fuel our growth engines. We expect 3% to 4% organic sales growth this year, with growth accelerating as the year progresses, driven by strengthening volume gains and continued 2% to 3% value price. Total reported sales, including the Ovivo electronics acquisition, is expected to grow upper single digits in 2026. And with this strong growth, OI margin is anticipated to expand 100 to 150 basis points to more than 19%, resulting in an OI growth of 14% to 16%. Altogether, this is expected to drive strong EPS growth of 12% to 15%, which includes the headwind of additional non-cash amortization from the Ovivo acquisition. Our first priority is to rapidly grow total value delivered, or as we call it, TVD. Across our core businesses, TVD is our formal framework for measuring the business outcomes, operational performance, and environmental impact we deliver to customers.
Speaker #3: We expect three to four percent organic sales growth this year, with growth accelerating as the year progresses, driven by strengthening volume gains and continued two to three percent value price.
Speaker #3: Total reported sales, including the AVEVO Electronics acquisition, are expected to grow upper single digits in 2026. And with this strong growth, OI margin is anticipated to expand 100 to 150 basis points to more than 19%, resulting in OI growth of 14% to 16%.
Speaker #3: Altogether, this is expected to drive strong EPS growth of 12 to 15%, which includes the headwind of additional non-cash amortization from the AVEVO acquisition.
Speaker #3: Our first priority is to rapidly grow total value delivered, or as we call it, TVD. Across our core businesses, TVD is our formal framework for measuring the business outcomes and operational performance and environmental impact we deliver to customers.
Speaker #3: When we deliver measurable value across these three dimensions, it not only drives share gains, but it earns Ecolab the ability to value price. And with a strong customer value pipeline heading into 2026, we remain very confident in delivering two to three percent pricing this year.
Christophe Beck: When we deliver measurable value across these three dimensions, it not only drives share gains, but it earns Ecolab's ability to value price. With a strong customer value pipeline heading into 2026, we remain very confident in delivering 2% to 3% pricing this year. What makes our value model so powerful is our best-in-class approach. With our scale, digital intelligence, and global service, Ecolab partners with customers to define what best-in-class looks like and scale it across their operations, helping them achieve peak performance. This is how we consistently help customers lower costs, reduce risk, and improve performance across their entire enterprise. Innovation is also essential to our best-in-class value model, and our 2026 lineup is strong and keeps getting stronger. In Global High-Tech, we're launching direct-to-chip cooling as a service to the data center market. This brings liquid cooling right where it's needed the most, the chip.
Christophe Beck: When we deliver measurable value across these three dimensions, it not only drives share gains, but it earns Ecolab's ability to value price. With a strong customer value pipeline heading into 2026, we remain very confident in delivering 2% to 3% pricing this year. What makes our value model so powerful is our best-in-class approach. With our scale, digital intelligence, and global service, Ecolab partners with customers to define what best-in-class looks like and scale it across their operations, helping them achieve peak performance. This is how we consistently help customers lower costs, reduce risk, and improve performance across their entire enterprise. Innovation is also essential to our best-in-class value model, and our 2026 lineup is strong and keeps getting stronger. In Global High-Tech, we're launching direct-to-chip cooling as a service to the data center market. This brings liquid cooling right where it's needed the most, the chip.
Speaker #3: What makes our value model so powerful is our best-in-class approach. With our scale, digital intelligence, and global service, Ecolab partners with customers to define what best-in-class looks like and scale it across their operations, helping them achieve peak performance.
Speaker #3: This is how we consistently help customers lower costs, reduce risk, and improve performance across their entire enterprise. Innovation is also essential to our best-in-class value model, and our 2026 lineup is strong and keeps getting stronger.
Speaker #3: In global high-tech, we're launching direct-to-chip cooling as a service, due to the data center market. This brings liquid cooling right where it's needed the most—the chip.
Speaker #3: By combining our CDU platform with Ecolab 3D TRASAR real-time monitoring, advanced coolant technology, and on-site service, we improve uptime, lower cooling costs, and allow more power to be put towards compute.
Christophe Beck: By combining our CDU platform with Ecolab 3D TRASAR real-time monitoring, advanced coolant technology, and on-site service, we improve uptime, lower cooling costs, and allow more power to be put towards compute. In food and beverage, we're launching CIP IQ, an AI-enabled digital solution that uses real-time analytics for a smarter way to optimize cleaning plants. It decreases capacity, reduces water and energy use, and improves quality control and product safety, helping customers run more efficiently at a time when every hour of production matters. Early interest is strong, and we're looking forward to a healthier rollout in 2026. In institutional specialty, we focused on scaling our IQ suite: DishIQ, AquaIQ, KitchenIQ, and BeverageIQ. These solutions directly address labor shortages, guest satisfaction, and rising operating costs, giving operators smarter, more automated ways to run their kitchens and front-of-the-house operations.
Christophe Beck: By combining our CDU platform with Ecolab 3D TRASAR real-time monitoring, advanced coolant technology, and on-site service, we improve uptime, lower cooling costs, and allow more power to be put towards compute. In food and beverage, we're launching CIP IQ, an AI-enabled digital solution that uses real-time analytics for a smarter way to optimize cleaning plants. It decreases capacity, reduces water and energy use, and improves quality control and product safety, helping customers run more efficiently at a time when every hour of production matters. Early interest is strong, and we're looking forward to a healthier rollout in 2026. In institutional specialty, we focused on scaling our IQ suite: DishIQ, AquaIQ, KitchenIQ, and BeverageIQ. These solutions directly address labor shortages, guest satisfaction, and rising operating costs, giving operators smarter, more automated ways to run their kitchens and front-of-the-house operations.
Speaker #3: In Food and Beverage, we're launching CIPIQ, an AI-enabled digital solution that uses real-time analytics for a smarter way to optimize cleaning plants. It decreases downtime, reduces water and energy use, and improves quality control and product safety.
Speaker #3: Helping customers run more efficiently at a time when every hour of production matters. Early interest is strong, and we're looking forward to a healthier rollout in 2026.
Speaker #3: In Institutional Specialty, we focused on scaling our IQ suite: DISH IQ, Aqua IQ, Kitchen IQ, and Beverage IQ. These solutions directly address labor shortages, guest satisfaction, and rising operating costs, giving operators smarter, more automated ways to run their kitchens and front-of-the-house operations.
Speaker #3: We expect strong growth from the suite in 2026 as well. And in Pest Elimination, we're expanding beyond our rodent-focused smart devices with a new smart solution for cockroaches, extending the reach and impact of our pest intelligence platforms.
Christophe Beck: We expect strong growth from the suite in 2026 as well. In pest elimination, we're expanding beyond our road-and-focus smart devices with a new smart solution for cockroaches, extending the reach and impact of our pest intelligence platforms. Moving into our second priority in 2026, expanding the One Ecolab Growth Initiative. We've demonstrated immense success over the last year. We've aligned our global resources to better serve our top 35 global customers, where there is a $3.5 billion growth opportunity. In 2025, sales growth with this group outpaced total company by approximately 2 percentage points. This year, we're expanding this model to our largest regional customers around the world, leveraging the tools, processes, and sales structures built for our top 35 customers. Within One Ecolab, we've also delivered more than $100 million in SG&A savings as of year-end 2025.
Christophe Beck: We expect strong growth from the suite in 2026 as well. In pest elimination, we're expanding beyond our road-and-focus smart devices with a new smart solution for cockroaches, extending the reach and impact of our pest intelligence platforms. Moving into our second priority in 2026, expanding the One Ecolab Growth Initiative. We've demonstrated immense success over the last year. We've aligned our global resources to better serve our top 35 global customers, where there is a $3.5 billion growth opportunity. In 2025, sales growth with this group outpaced total company by approximately 2 percentage points. This year, we're expanding this model to our largest regional customers around the world, leveraging the tools, processes, and sales structures built for our top 35 customers. Within One Ecolab, we've also delivered more than $100 million in SG&A savings as of year-end 2025.
Speaker #3: Moving into our second priority in 2026, expanding the One Ecolab Growth Initiative. We've demonstrated immense success over the last year. We've aligned our global resources to better serve our top 35 global customers.
Speaker #3: billion gross Whether it's a 3.5 opportunity, in 2025, sales growth with this group outpaced total company by approximately two percentage points. This year, we're expanding this model to our largest regional customers around the world, leveraging the tools, processes, and sales structures built for our top 35 customers.
Speaker #3: Within One Ecolab, we've also delivered more than $100 million in SG&A savings as of year-end 2025. We achieved this by consolidating functional work into our global centers of excellence and deploying a number of agentic AI applications as one of the most advanced companies.
Christophe Beck: We achieved this by consolidating functional work into our global centers of excellence and deploying a number of agentic AI applications as one of the most advanced companies. As we shared at Investor Day, our initial One Ecolab rollout exceeded expectations, allowing us to increase our savings target from $140 million to $225 million by 2027. Today, we're increasing our savings target again to $325 million by the same year, 2027, due to the continued success of the overall program. Finally, looking at our growth engines, they now represent about 20% of our portfolio, including Ovivo electronics, which closed earlier than expected. Together, our growth engines have very attractive long-term OI margin profiles, and in 2026, we expect them to collectively grow double digits, lifting Ecolab's sales growth.
Christophe Beck: We achieved this by consolidating functional work into our global centers of excellence and deploying a number of agentic AI applications as one of the most advanced companies. As we shared at Investor Day, our initial One Ecolab rollout exceeded expectations, allowing us to increase our savings target from $140 million to $225 million by 2027. Today, we're increasing our savings target again to $325 million by the same year, 2027, due to the continued success of the overall program. Finally, looking at our growth engines, they now represent about 20% of our portfolio, including Ovivo electronics, which closed earlier than expected. Together, our growth engines have very attractive long-term OI margin profiles, and in 2026, we expect them to collectively grow double digits, lifting Ecolab's sales growth.
Speaker #3: As we shared at Investor Day, our initial One Ecolab rollout exceeded expectations, allowing us to increase our savings target from $140 million to $225 million by 2027.
Speaker #3: And today, we're increasing our savings target again to $325 million by the same year, 2027, due to the continued success of the overall program.
Speaker #3: Finally, looking at our growth engines, they now represent about 20% of our portfolio, including AVEVO Electronics, which closed earlier than expected. Together, our growth engines have very attractive long-term OI margin profiles.
Speaker #3: And in 2026, we expect them to collectively grow double digits, lifting Ecolab's sales growth. When we look at what's fueling that trajectory, global high-tech is leading the way as AI expands, and every part of its value chain depends on water.
Christophe Beck: When we look at what's fueling that trajectory, Global High-Tech is leading the way as AI expands and every part of its value chain depends on water: the fabs that make the chips, the power plants that fuel the chips, and the data centers that run and cool them. Ecolab is uniquely positioned in all these markets to help enable the AI buildout. With Ovivo electronics now part of Ecolab, we provide the ultra-pure water essential for semiconductor manufacturing, supporting the fabs producing the world's most advanced chips. As we bring our unmatched capabilities together, we're building a unique circular water offering for the fast-growing microelectronics sector. And Ovivo is off to a strong start in 2026 as we have already secured several new fabs where our leading ultra-pure water technologies will be deployed.
Christophe Beck: When we look at what's fueling that trajectory, Global High-Tech is leading the way as AI expands and every part of its value chain depends on water: the fabs that make the chips, the power plants that fuel the chips, and the data centers that run and cool them. Ecolab is uniquely positioned in all these markets to help enable the AI buildout. With Ovivo electronics now part of Ecolab, we provide the ultra-pure water essential for semiconductor manufacturing, supporting the fabs producing the world's most advanced chips. As we bring our unmatched capabilities together, we're building a unique circular water offering for the fast-growing microelectronics sector. And Ovivo is off to a strong start in 2026 as we have already secured several new fabs where our leading ultra-pure water technologies will be deployed.
Speaker #3: The fabs that make the chips, the power plants that fuel the chips, and the data centers that run and cool them—Ecolab is uniquely positioned in all these markets to help enable the AI build-out.
Speaker #3: With AVEVO electronics now part of Ecolab, we provide the ultra-pure water, essential for semiconductor manufacturing. Supporting the fabs producing the world's most advanced chips.
Speaker #3: As we bring our unmatched capabilities together, we're building a unique circular water offering for the fast-growing microelectronics sector. And AVEVO is off to a strong start in 2026, as we have already secured several new fabs where our leading ultra-pure water technologies will be deployed.
Speaker #3: On the data center side, the industry expects unprecedented demand for AI to continue to rapidly expand. Higher rack densities and rising chip heat make liquid cooling mission critical.
Christophe Beck: On the data center side, the industry expects unprecedented demand for AI to continue to rapidly expand. Higher rack densities and rising chip heat make liquid cooling mission-critical. Our direct-to-chip cooling platform, including integrated 3D TRASAR monitoring and on-site service, positions us to help data centers improve cooling asset performance, reduce the power required to cool, and return more power to compute. And as the industry increasingly turns to water to cool next-generation chips like NVIDIA's Vera Rubin platform, we're very well positioned, backed by more than a century of experience managing cooling and water systems in complex environments at scale. As strong as that momentum is, it's only part of our growth engine story. Another major contributor is pest elimination. Nearly every Ecolab customer today uses some form of pest elimination.
Christophe Beck: On the data center side, the industry expects unprecedented demand for AI to continue to rapidly expand. Higher rack densities and rising chip heat make liquid cooling mission-critical. Our direct-to-chip cooling platform, including integrated 3D TRASAR monitoring and on-site service, positions us to help data centers improve cooling asset performance, reduce the power required to cool, and return more power to compute. And as the industry increasingly turns to water to cool next-generation chips like NVIDIA's Vera Rubin platform, we're very well positioned, backed by more than a century of experience managing cooling and water systems in complex environments at scale. As strong as that momentum is, it's only part of our growth engine story. Another major contributor is pest elimination. Nearly every Ecolab customer today uses some form of pest elimination.
Speaker #3: Our direct-to-chip cooling platform, including integrated 3D Trazor monitoring and on-site service, positions us to help data centers improve cooling asset performance, reduce the power required to cool, and return more power to compute.
Speaker #3: And as the industry increasingly turns to water to cool next-generation chips like NVIDIA's VeraRibbon platform, we're very well positioned—backed by more than a century of experience managing cooling and water systems in complex environments at scale.
Speaker #3: As strong as that momentum is, it's only part of our growth engine story. Another major contributor is pest elimination. Nearly every Ecolab customer today uses some form of pest elimination.
Speaker #3: With our One Ecolab selling strategy, we're unlocking a $3 billion cross-sell opportunity by delivering the most compelling outcomes in the industry. Targeting 99% pest relocation through our digital, connected pest intelligence platform.
Christophe Beck: With our One Ecolab selling strategy, we're unlocking a $3 billion cross-sale opportunity by delivering the most compelling outcomes in the industry, targeting 99% pest relocation through our digital connected pest intelligence platform. We're leaders in deploying digital technologies to this commercial market and expect to have more than 1 million smart devices in the field in 2026. This technology not only drives best-in-class outcomes for our customers, but it also frees our team to spend more time driving strong sales growth while continuing to expand margin. We're also seeing exceptional progress in life sciences. We delivered our best year yet in bioprocessing. We saved up nearly 75% in 2025. Life sciences has the potential to be one of Ecolab's highest margin businesses, where we target long-term operating margins of 30%.
Christophe Beck: With our One Ecolab selling strategy, we're unlocking a $3 billion cross-sale opportunity by delivering the most compelling outcomes in the industry, targeting 99% pest relocation through our digital connected pest intelligence platform. We're leaders in deploying digital technologies to this commercial market and expect to have more than 1 million smart devices in the field in 2026. This technology not only drives best-in-class outcomes for our customers, but it also frees our team to spend more time driving strong sales growth while continuing to expand margin. We're also seeing exceptional progress in life sciences. We delivered our best year yet in bioprocessing. We saved up nearly 75% in 2025. Life sciences has the potential to be one of Ecolab's highest margin businesses, where we target long-term operating margins of 30%.
Speaker #3: We're leaders in deploying digital technologies to this commercial market and expect to have more than 1 million smart devices in the field in 2026.
Speaker #3: This technology not only drives best-in-class outcomes for our customers, but it also frees our team to spend more time driving strong sales growth, while continuing to expand margin.
Speaker #3: We're also seeing exceptional progress in Life Sciences. We delivered our best year yet in Bioprocessing, with sales up nearly 75% in 2025. Life Sciences has the potential to be one of Ecolab's highest-margin businesses.
Speaker #3: When we target long-term operating margins of 30%. We're investing behind this attractive and significant long-term opportunity with breakthrough biopharma purification innovations, new digital solutions, and capacity expansions.
Christophe Beck: We're investing behind this attractive and significant long-term opportunity with breakthrough biopharma purification innovations, new digital solutions, and capacity expansions. That includes the capacity expansion of our life sciences industrial water purification business, which is expected to begin production in the second half of this year, removing the constraints that created a drag in 2025 and positioning us for stronger growth in the years ahead. The fourth engine powering our growth is Ecolab Digital. We've grown this business to only $400 million in annual sales, increasing more than 20% in 2025, and we're still in the very early days. We're investing heavily to bring market-leading digital solutions to our customers across our portfolio. In 2025, more than 25% of our innovation pipeline was digital, which has grown significantly over the last few years.
Christophe Beck: We're investing behind this attractive and significant long-term opportunity with breakthrough biopharma purification innovations, new digital solutions, and capacity expansions. That includes the capacity expansion of our life sciences industrial water purification business, which is expected to begin production in the second half of this year, removing the constraints that created a drag in 2025 and positioning us for stronger growth in the years ahead. The fourth engine powering our growth is Ecolab Digital. We've grown this business to only $400 million in annual sales, increasing more than 20% in 2025, and we're still in the very early days. We're investing heavily to bring market-leading digital solutions to our customers across our portfolio. In 2025, more than 25% of our innovation pipeline was digital, which has grown significantly over the last few years.
Speaker #3: That includes the capacity expansion of our Life Sciences industrial water purification business, which is expected to begin production in the second half of this year.
Speaker #3: Removing a constraint that created a drag in 2025 and positioning us for stronger growth in the years ahead. And the fourth engine powering our growth is Ecolab Digital.
Speaker #3: We've grown this business to nearly $400 million in annual sales, increasing more than 20% in 2025, and we're still in the very early days.
Speaker #3: We're investing heavily to bring market-leading digital solutions to our customers across our portfolio. In 2025, more than 25% of our innovation pipeline was digital, which has grown significantly over the last few years.
Speaker #3: The strength of Ecolab Digital comes from its focus on solving critical customer challenges and increasing the total value delivered to our customers. With all of this, we're heading into 2026 confident in our ability to deliver continued strong performance, and we're off to a strong start in the first quarter.
Christophe Beck: The strength of Ecolab Digital comes from its focus on solving critical customer challenges and increasing the total value delivered to our customers. With all of this, we enter 2026 confident in our ability to deliver continued strong performance, and we're off to a strong start in the first quarter. For the year, we expect reported sales growth of 7% to 9% and organic sales growth of 3% to 4%, with organic growth accelerating as the year progresses, driven by strengthening volume growth. With 100 to 150 basis points of OI margin expansion, we expect 14% to 16% OI growth and EPS growth of 12% to 15%, including the impact of Ovivo. I'll end where I often do. The best of Ecolab is yet to come.
Christophe Beck: The strength of Ecolab Digital comes from its focus on solving critical customer challenges and increasing the total value delivered to our customers. With all of this, we enter 2026 confident in our ability to deliver continued strong performance, and we're off to a strong start in the first quarter. For the year, we expect reported sales growth of 7% to 9% and organic sales growth of 3% to 4%, with organic growth accelerating as the year progresses, driven by strengthening volume growth. With 100 to 150 basis points of OI margin expansion, we expect 14% to 16% OI growth and EPS growth of 12% to 15%, including the impact of Ovivo. I'll end where I often do. The best of Ecolab is yet to come.
Speaker #3: For the year, we expect reported sales growth of 7% to 9% and organic sales growth of 3% to 4%, with organic growth accelerating as the year progresses.
Speaker #3: Driven by strengthening volume growth, and with 100 to 150 basis points of OI margin expansion, we expect 14% to 16% OI growth and EPS growth of 12% to 15%, including the impact of AVEVO.
Speaker #3: I'll end where I often do: The best of Ecolab is yet to come. Our ability to improve customers' business outcomes, operational performance, and environmental impact is more relevant than ever.
Christophe Beck: Our ability to improve customers' business outcomes, operational performance, and environmental impact is more relevant than ever, and it's powering consistent double-digit EPS growth. So thanks so much for your interest and your investment in Ecolab. I look forward to your questions.
Christophe Beck: Our ability to improve customers' business outcomes, operational performance, and environmental impact is more relevant than ever, and it's powering consistent double-digit EPS growth. So thanks so much for your interest and your investment in Ecolab. I look forward to your questions.
Speaker #3: And it's powering consistent, double-digit EPS growth. So thanks so much for your interest and your investment in Ecolab. I look forward to your questions.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Christophe. That concludes our formal remarks. Operator, would you please begin the question-and-answer?
Andy Hedberg: Thank you, Christophe. That concludes our formal remarks. Operator, would you please begin the question and answer period?
Andy Hedberg: Thank you, Christophe. That concludes our formal remarks. Operator, would you please begin the question and answer period?
Speaker #3: period? Thank you.
Christophe Beck: Thank you. We'll now be conducting a question and answer session. We ask that you please limit yourself to one question per caller, so those who will have a chance to participate. If you have additional questions, please rejoin the Q&A queue. If you'd like to ask a question at this time, you may press star one from your telephone keypad, and the confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we pull for questions. Thank you. And our first question is from the line of Tim Mulrooney with William Blair. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. We'll now be conducting a question and answer session. We ask that you please limit yourself to one question per caller, so those who will have a chance to participate. If you have additional questions, please rejoin the Q&A queue. If you'd like to ask a question at this time, you may press star one from your telephone keypad, and the confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we pull for questions. Thank you. And our first question is from the line of Tim Mulrooney with William Blair. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #2: We'll now be conducting question-and-answer session. We ask that you please limit yourself to one question per caller so those who will have a chance to participate.
Speaker #2: If you have additional questions, please rejoin the Q&A queue. If you'd like to ask a question at this time, you may press *1 from your telephone keypad, and a confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue.
Speaker #2: You may press *2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the * keys.
Speaker #2: One moment, please, while we pull for questions. Thank you. And our first question is from the line of Tim Mulroney with William Blair. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Good afternoon, Christophe.
Benjamin Luke McFadden: Yeah. Good afternoon, Christophe.
Tim Mulrooney: Yeah. Good afternoon, Christophe.
Speaker #4: Good afternoon,
Christophe Beck: Good afternoon, Tim.
Christophe Beck: Good afternoon, Tim.
Speaker #4: Tim. I just wanted to
Benjamin Luke McFadden: I just wanted to double-click on the color you gave a lot of good color in the prepared remarks, but I just wanted to double-click on that volume cadence as you move through the year, specifically organic volumes, because I know you've got a couple of headwinds from paper and basic, and as well the inventory thing with institutional. So how do you think about these headwinds moving through the year, as well as then on the other side of it, you got that solid momentum in some of these other businesses. Can you walk me through these pieces and taking that all into account, how you're thinking about the trajectory for organic volumes, specifically as you move through the year?
Tim Mulrooney: I just wanted to double-click on the color you gave a lot of good color in the prepared remarks, but I just wanted to double-click on that volume cadence as you move through the year, specifically organic volumes, because I know you've got a couple of headwinds from paper and basic, and as well the inventory thing with institutional. So how do you think about these headwinds moving through the year, as well as then on the other side of it, you got that solid momentum in some of these other businesses. Can you walk me through these pieces and taking that all into account, how you're thinking about the trajectory for organic volumes, specifically as you move through the year?
Speaker #3: You gave a lot of good color in the prepared remarks, but I just wanted to double-click on that volume cadence as you move through the year—specifically organic volumes, because I know you've got a couple of headwinds from Paper and Basic.
Speaker #3: And, as well, the inventory thing with Institutional—so how do you think about these headwinds moving through the year? As well as, then on the other side of it, you've got that solid momentum in some of these other businesses.
Speaker #3: Can you walk me through these pieces and, taking that all into account, how you're thinking about the trajectory for organic volumes, specifically as you move through the—
Speaker #3: year? I'd love to, Tim.
Christophe Beck: I'd love to, Tim. Our framework remains the same, which is the 1% to 2% volume growth and 2% to 3% to get to these 3% to 4%. So for the year, accelerating in 2026. When I step back, the truth is that the volume growth in Q4 was almost the same as in Q3, as you know. So we round up or down our volume. The difference versus around zero and around one was actually only a few million dollars. So at the end of the day, it was almost the same in Q4 as in Q3, which is why earnings were strong. I feel great about where we're going. But what makes me the most optimistic about our future is that, well, 85% of our businesses are doing great.
Christophe Beck: I'd love to, Tim. Our framework remains the same, which is the 1% to 2% volume growth and 2% to 3% to get to these 3% to 4%. So for the year, accelerating in 2026. When I step back, the truth is that the volume growth in Q4 was almost the same as in Q3, as you know. So we round up or down our volume. The difference versus around zero and around one was actually only a few million dollars. So at the end of the day, it was almost the same in Q4 as in Q3, which is why earnings were strong. I feel great about where we're going. But what makes me the most optimistic about our future is that, well, 85% of our businesses are doing great.
Speaker #4: And our framework remains the same, which is the 1% to 2% volume growth and 2% to 3% to get to these 3% to 4%.
Speaker #4: So for the year, accelerating in 2026. And when I step back, the truth is that the volume growth in Q4 was almost the same as in Q3.
Speaker #4: As you know, so we round up or down. Our volume and the difference versus around zero and around one was actually only a few million dollars.
Speaker #4: So, at the end of the day, it was almost the same in Q4 as in Q3, which is why earnings were strong. And I feel great about where we're going.
Speaker #4: But what makes me the most optimistic about our future is that, well, 85% of our businesses are doing great. As mentioned, F&B, which we're building around this F&B united idea of bringing hygiene and water very closely together.
Christophe Beck: As mentioned, F&B, which we're building around this F&B united idea of bringing hygiene and water very closely together. That's done in North America. Well, it's accelerated to 5%, life science to 7%, pest to 7%, water X, paper, and basic to 5%. And INS X, this distribution inventory story there, well, was going the same at 4% with specialty steady at 7%. So in other words, what I really like is that our portfolio is shifting to higher growth, higher margin businesses, which is exactly where we want to go. And we did, obviously, so with the 15% of the portfolio, that needs work. There will always be something. And I expect paper and basics to kind of get to a much better place as we progress in 2026.
Christophe Beck: As mentioned, F&B, which we're building around this F&B united idea of bringing hygiene and water very closely together. That's done in North America. Well, it's accelerated to 5%, life science to 7%, pest to 7%, water X, paper, and basic to 5%. And INS X, this distribution inventory story there, well, was going the same at 4% with specialty steady at 7%. So in other words, what I really like is that our portfolio is shifting to higher growth, higher margin businesses, which is exactly where we want to go. And we did, obviously, so with the 15% of the portfolio, that needs work. There will always be something. And I expect paper and basics to kind of get to a much better place as we progress in 2026.
Speaker #4: That's done in North America. Well, it's accelerated to 5%. Life science to 7%, best to 7%. Water X paper and basic to 5%. And INS X this distribution inventory story there, well, was going the same.
Speaker #4: At 4% with specialty steady at 7%. So in other words, what I really like is that our portfolio is shifting to higher growth, higher margin businesses, which is exactly where we want to go.
Speaker #4: And we deal, obviously, so with the 15% of the portfolio. That needs work. There will always be something and I expect paper and basics to kind of get to a much better place as we progress.
Speaker #4: In 2026, so if I put all that together—improving the underperforming businesses of Paper and Basic, normalization of the distributor inventory in Institutional, and 85% of the company growing very nicely—I expect Q1 to be pretty similar to Q4, but with acceleration towards the end of the quarter.
Christophe Beck: So if I put all that together, improving the underperforming businesses of paper and basic, normalization of the distributor inventory in institutional, and 85% of the company growing very nicely, I expect Q1 to be pretty similar to Q4, but with acceleration towards the end of the quarter and acceleration continuing in the quarters to come during the year of 2026. So overall, a very good trajectory, especially from the underlying growth.
Christophe Beck: So if I put all that together, improving the underperforming businesses of paper and basic, normalization of the distributor inventory in institutional, and 85% of the company growing very nicely, I expect Q1 to be pretty similar to Q4, but with acceleration towards the end of the quarter and acceleration continuing in the quarters to come during the year of 2026. So overall, a very good trajectory, especially from the underlying growth.
Speaker #4: And acceleration continuing in the quarters to come during the year of 2026. So overall, a very good trajectory, especially from the underlying growth.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Manav Patniak with Barclays. Please just state your question.
Christophe Beck: Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Manav Patnaik with Barclays. Please just use your question.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Manav Patnaik with Barclays. Please just use your question.
Speaker #5: Thank you. Christophe, I was hoping you could just double-click on the global high-tech piece—the water, the semis, the data center piece. Post AVEVA, just help us size what you think the growth rate is, where the opportunities are, and perhaps if you see any roadblocks to you achieving some of your growth ambitions.
Manav Patnaik: Thank you. Christophe, I was hoping you could just double-click on the Global High-Tech piece, the water, the semis, the data center piece, post Ovivo, just help us size. What do you think the growth rate is, where the opportunities are, and perhaps if you see any roadblocks to you achieving some of your growth ambitions there?
Manav Patnaik: Thank you. Christophe, I was hoping you could just double-click on the Global High-Tech piece, the water, the semis, the data center piece, post Ovivo, just help us size. What do you think the growth rate is, where the opportunities are, and perhaps if you see any roadblocks to you achieving some of your growth ambitions there?
Speaker #5: there? I'd
Christophe Beck: I'd love to. Manav, thanks for that question. So Global High-Tech is kind of a new business for us, started it 3 or 4 years ago, really focused on data centers and on fabs, which is the short name for manufacturing of microelectronics chips. If I step back, as I've mentioned so many times, why are we so interested in that field? On one hand, well, AI demand is booming. Is that going to be a straight line to heaven? Probably not. There's going to be ups and slower ups probably as well going forward, but the trends are clearly up, and we see it from an investment perspective. Second, the power and water that's required for that is incredible.
Christophe Beck: I'd love to. Manav, thanks for that question. So Global High-Tech is kind of a new business for us, started it 3 or 4 years ago, really focused on data centers and on fabs, which is the short name for manufacturing of microelectronics chips. If I step back, as I've mentioned so many times, why are we so interested in that field? On one hand, well, AI demand is booming. Is that going to be a straight line to heaven? Probably not. There's going to be ups and slower ups probably as well going forward, but the trends are clearly up, and we see it from an investment perspective. Second, the power and water that's required for that is incredible.
Speaker #4: Love to. Manav, thanks for that question. So global high-tech is kind of a new business. So for us, started it three, four years ago.
Speaker #4: Really focused on data centers and on fabs, which is the short-term name for manufacturing of microelectronics—chips. And if I step back, as I mentioned so many times, why are we so interested?
Speaker #4: In that field? On one hand, well, AI demand is booming. Is that going to be a straight line to heaven? Probably not. There's going to be ups and slow-ups, probably as well, going forward.
Speaker #4: But the trend is clearly up, and we see it from an investment perspective. Second, the power and water that's required for that is incredible.
Speaker #4: As you expect an incremental need for power for the whole of the electrical consumption of India, and the incremental needs of the fresh water use of the whole United States.
Christophe Beck: As mentioned, by 2030, we expect an incremental need of power for the whole of the electrical consumption of India and the incremental needs of the freshwater use of the whole United States. So at the end of the day, well, at the heart of AI is water, as mentioned before, to produce the chips because they're produced in ultra-pure water, to power the chips because power generation is the second largest water user in the world after agriculture. And the third one is to cool chips, which is shifting towards water at the same time. So high-growth market where water is at the heart of it, and especially so on those two key areas of fabs and data centers. And one might argue that power generation is also part of it, was kind of a flat market for a very long time.
Christophe Beck: As mentioned, by 2030, we expect an incremental need of power for the whole of the electrical consumption of India and the incremental needs of the freshwater use of the whole United States. So at the end of the day, well, at the heart of AI is water, as mentioned before, to produce the chips because they're produced in ultra-pure water, to power the chips because power generation is the second largest water user in the world after agriculture. And the third one is to cool chips, which is shifting towards water at the same time. So high-growth market where water is at the heart of it, and especially so on those two key areas of fabs and data centers. And one might argue that power generation is also part of it, was kind of a flat market for a very long time.
Speaker #4: So, at the end of the day, well, at the heart of AI is water. As mentioned before, to produce the chips—because they're produced in ultra-pure water—to power the chips, because power generation is the largest water user in the world after agriculture.
Speaker #4: And the third one is to cool chips, which is shifting towards water at the same time. So, high-growth market where water is at the heart of it, and especially so on those two key areas of fabs and data centers. And one might argue that power generation is also part of it, which was kind of a flat market for a very long time.
Speaker #4: Well, that's changing because we need much more power. That's going to help as well on the side, but it's not part of our global high-tech.
Christophe Beck: Well, that's changing because we need much more power. That's going to help as well on the side, but it's not part of our Global High-Tech. So the way we're thinking about building it on fabs, since one fab requires the amount of water equivalent to 17 million people, that's an example in Korea, for instance, there. Well, the solution is to provide technology where you can recirculate water within the fab, which is really hard because at the same time, the quality of the water that's used to produce the chip is directly correlated to the quality of the advanced chips, and that's 1,000 times more pure than water that's used in blood injections, by the way. So recycling water that's difficult to recycle at the super high standard. Well, that's exactly what Ovivo helps us to do.
Christophe Beck: Well, that's changing because we need much more power. That's going to help as well on the side, but it's not part of our Global High-Tech. So the way we're thinking about building it on fabs, since one fab requires the amount of water equivalent to 17 million people, that's an example in Korea, for instance, there. Well, the solution is to provide technology where you can recirculate water within the fab, which is really hard because at the same time, the quality of the water that's used to produce the chip is directly correlated to the quality of the advanced chips, and that's 1,000 times more pure than water that's used in blood injections, by the way. So recycling water that's difficult to recycle at the super high standard. Well, that's exactly what Ovivo helps us to do.
Speaker #4: So the way we're thinking about building it on fabs—since one fab requires the amount of water equivalent to 70 million people; that's an example in Korea, for instance—the solution is to provide technology where you can recirculate water within the fab, which is really hard because, at the same time, the quality of the water that's used to produce the chip is directly correlated to the quality of the advanced chips.
Speaker #4: And that's 1,000 times more pure than water that's used in blood injections. By the way, so recycling water—that's difficult to recycle at the super high standard.
Speaker #4: Well, that's exactly what AVEVO helps us to do. That was the piece of the puzzle that was missing for us, and now we can provide the semiconductor manufacturers with circular water solutions.
Christophe Beck: That was the piece of the puzzle that was missing for us. And now we can provide to the semiconductor manufacturers with circular water solutions, and we're seeing very high interest from the key players out there. And the second and last I'll mention is data centers. Well, for a long time, they've been air-cooled. That required cooling towers with a lot of water that we've been used to manage for a very long time. Now that's shifting to liquid cooling, which means that you reuse the liquid in the data center, a liquid that's coming straight on top of the chip. And that liquid is not water today, but it's getting towards water tomorrow because it's the liquid with the best thermal properties, which is what we master the most as well at the same time.
Christophe Beck: That was the piece of the puzzle that was missing for us. And now we can provide to the semiconductor manufacturers with circular water solutions, and we're seeing very high interest from the key players out there. And the second and last I'll mention is data centers. Well, for a long time, they've been air-cooled. That required cooling towers with a lot of water that we've been used to manage for a very long time. Now that's shifting to liquid cooling, which means that you reuse the liquid in the data center, a liquid that's coming straight on top of the chip. And that liquid is not water today, but it's getting towards water tomorrow because it's the liquid with the best thermal properties, which is what we master the most as well at the same time.
Speaker #4: And we're seeing very high interest from the key players out there. And the second and last I'll mention is data centers. Well, for a long time, they've been air-cooled.
Speaker #4: That required cooling towers with a lot of water that we've been used to manage for a very long time. Now that's shifting to liquid cooling, which means that you reuse the liquid in the data center—a liquid that's coming straight on top of the chip.
Speaker #4: And that liquid is not water today. But it's getting towards water tomorrow because it's the liquid with the best thermal properties, which is what we master the most as well at the same time.
Speaker #4: So, liquid cooling in circular mode for data centers, and circular water for fabs manufacturing—that's the way we're thinking about it. We added AVEVA for fabs, and we will keep building our capabilities on data centers today.
Christophe Beck: So liquid cooling in circular mode for data centers and circular water for fabs manufacturing, that's the way we're thinking about it. We added Ovivo for fabs, and we will keep building our capabilities on data center today. Combined, these two businesses are roughly a billion-dollar, growing strong double-digit right now at very high margin. We see many opportunities to make that business way bigger in the years to come.
Christophe Beck: So liquid cooling in circular mode for data centers and circular water for fabs manufacturing, that's the way we're thinking about it. We added Ovivo for fabs, and we will keep building our capabilities on data center today. Combined, these two businesses are roughly a billion-dollar, growing strong double-digit right now at very high margin. We see many opportunities to make that business way bigger in the years to come.
Speaker #4: Combine these two businesses are roughly a billion dollars. Growing strong double-digit right now at very high margin. And we see many opportunities to make that business way bigger.
Speaker #4: In the years to
Speaker #4: come. Thank
Christophe Beck: Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Ashish Sabadra with RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Ashish Sabadra with RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #2: You. Our next question is from the line of Ashish Subhadra with RVC Capital Markets. Please just use your...
Speaker #2: question.
Speaker #6: Thanks for taking my
Ashish Sabadra: Thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to drill down further on the drivers for the 100 to 150 basis points of margin expansion. You obviously raised the Nalco savings targets and talked about $100 million of savings already achieved in 2025. I was wondering if you could provide any incremental color on the savings in 2026, but also tailwinds from pricing as well as mix shift in 2026. Thanks.
Ashish Sabadra: Thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to drill down further on the drivers for the 100 to 150 basis points of margin expansion. You obviously raised the Nalco savings targets and talked about $100 million of savings already achieved in 2025. I was wondering if you could provide any incremental color on the savings in 2026, but also tailwinds from pricing as well as mix shift in 2026. Thanks.
Speaker #6: I just wanted to drill down further on the drivers for the 100 to 150 basis points of margin expansion. You obviously raised the One Ecolab savings targets and talked about $100 million of savings already achieved in 2025.
Speaker #6: I was wondering if you could provide any incremental color on the savings in '26. But also tailwinds from pricing as well as makeshift in '26.
Speaker #4: Hey, great.
Christophe Beck: Great. Thank you, Ashish. I'll pass it to Scott just to start the answer here.
Christophe Beck: Great. Thank you, Ashish. I'll pass it to Scott just to start the answer here.
Speaker #4: Thanks. Thank you, Ashish. I'll pass it to Scott. Just to start to answer here.
Speaker #7: Yeah, thanks, Ashish. Similar to the targets we set out at Investor Day last fall, this 100 to 150 basis points is anchored on really two things: gross margins, which is at 75 to 100 basis points annually, which we're thinking about as long-term, same sort of targets for 2026.
Benjamin Luke McFadden: Yeah. Thanks, Ashish. Similar to the targets we set out at Investor Day last fall, this 100 to 150 basis points is anchored on really two things: gross margins, which is at 75 to 100 basis points annually, which we're thinking about that long-term, same sort of targets for 2026, and then this 25 to 50 basis points of SG&A leverage annually through 2030. So that's how we get to this 100 to 150 basis points. And then just diving into the gross margin, the drivers of that being the value-based pricing that Christophe referenced, our mix of businesses, as you see these growth engines being higher margin businesses, but also innovation. And then on the SG&A savings, if you look at over the last five years, we've delivered sales productivity almost 30%, which is sort of sales per head, which is part of that driver.
Scott Kirkland: Yeah. Thanks, Ashish. Similar to the targets we set out at Investor Day last fall, this 100 to 150 basis points is anchored on really two things: gross margins, which is at 75 to 100 basis points annually, which we're thinking about that long-term, same sort of targets for 2026, and then this 25 to 50 basis points of SG&A leverage annually through 2030. So that's how we get to this 100 to 150 basis points. And then just diving into the gross margin, the drivers of that being the value-based pricing that Christophe referenced, our mix of businesses, as you see these growth engines being higher margin businesses, but also innovation. And then on the SG&A savings, if you look at over the last five years, we've delivered sales productivity almost 30%, which is sort of sales per head, which is part of that driver.
Speaker #7: And then this 25 to 50 basis points of SG&A leverage annually through 2030. So that's how we get to this 100 to 150 basis points.
Speaker #7: And then, just diving into the gross margin—the drivers of that being the value-based pricing that Christophe referenced, our mix of businesses, as you see these growth engines being higher-margin businesses, but also innovation.
Speaker #7: And then on the SG&A savings, if you look at over the last five years, we've delivered sales productivity of almost 30%, which is sort of sales per head, which is part of that driver.
Speaker #7: Then, on top of that, with that, we're also driving the One Ecolab program, which Christoph announced, that we've now increased that savings target to $325 million.
Benjamin Luke McFadden: Then on top of that, with that, we're also driving the One Ecolab program, which Christophe announced that we've now increased that savings target to $325 million. And that $325 million, as we think about it, [is] about $120 million. So think of sort of 1/3, 1/3, 1/3, a little bit more than 1/3 through the end of 2025. And then the remaining $200 million will be sort of equally over the next two years. And so that'll be a driver of that 25 to 50 basis points as well.
Scott Kirkland: Then on top of that, with that, we're also driving the One Ecolab program, which Christophe announced that we've now increased that savings target to $325 million. And that $325 million, as we think about it, [is] about $120 million. So think of sort of 1/3, 1/3, 1/3, a little bit more than 1/3 through the end of 2025. And then the remaining $200 million will be sort of equally over the next two years. And so that'll be a driver of that 25 to 50 basis points as well.
Speaker #7: And that 325, as we think about it, about $120 million. So think of sort of a third, a third, a third — a little bit more than a third — through the end of '25.
Speaker #7: And then the remaining 200 million will be sort that'll be a driver of that 25 of equally over the next two years. And so to 50 basis points as well.
Speaker #7: And then the remaining $200 million will be sort that'll be a driver of that 25, equally over the next two years. And so, to 50 basis points as...
Speaker #2: Our next question is from the line of John McNulty with BMO Capital Markets. Just use your question.
Christophe Beck: Our next question is from the line of John McNulty with BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed with your questions.
Operator: Our next question is from the line of John McNulty with BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed with your questions.
Speaker #8: Yeah, good morning. Thanks for taking—or good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. So, I wanted to drill down a little bit into the incremental margins, because it looks like what we saw in the past was kind of a really explosive incremental margin in terms of how much kind of came down to the bottom line.
John McNulty: Yeah. Good morning or good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. So wanted to drill down a little bit into the incremental margins because it looks like what we saw in Pest was kind of a really explosive incremental margin in terms of how much kind of came down to the bottom line. And then when I look at things like the Life Sciences side, it was dramatically less so. It was probably the weaker of the performers of your businesses. So I guess, can you unpack that a little bit in terms of what some of those dynamics might be, why we're seeing such different results by segment, and how we should be thinking about that going forward?
John McNulty: Yeah. Good morning or good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. So wanted to drill down a little bit into the incremental margins because it looks like what we saw in Pest was kind of a really explosive incremental margin in terms of how much kind of came down to the bottom line. And then when I look at things like the Life Sciences side, it was dramatically less so. It was probably the weaker of the performers of your businesses. So I guess, can you unpack that a little bit in terms of what some of those dynamics might be, why we're seeing such different results by segment, and how we should be thinking about that going forward?
Speaker #8: And then, when I look at things like the Life Sciences side, it was dramatically less so. It was probably the weaker of the performers of your businesses.
Speaker #8: So I guess, can you unpack that a little bit in terms of what some of those dynamics might be, why we're seeing such different results by segment, and how we should be thinking about that going forward?
Speaker #8: forward? Hey, thank you,
Christophe Beck: Hey, thank you, John. Looks like Scotty's on a roll, so he's going to take the first part of the answer here.
Christophe Beck: Hey, thank you, John. Looks like Scotty's on a roll, so he's going to take the first part of the answer here.
Speaker #4: John, it looks like Scott is on a roll, so he's going to take the first part of the—
Speaker #4: answer here.
Speaker #7: Yeah, thanks,
Benjamin Luke McFadden: Yeah. Thanks, John. As we've talked about in the past, we don't really think about incremental margins in that way. But I get your point on life sciences and pest. The life sciences, you saw the OI growth in low single digits in Q4. But frankly, that was as we expected because we had targeted OI margins in that mid-teen range. And it was due to two things. One, as we've talked about, we're investing in that business. Underlying margins are actually better. And then on top of it, you had a year-on-year comparison, sort of bad comp, if you will, on life sciences, really because of performance-based compensation. And that business sales accelerate throughout the year, as Christophe talked about. And the OI growth for the full year was 30%. And so they've earned that performance-based compensation.
Scott Kirkland: Yeah. Thanks, John. As we've talked about in the past, we don't really think about incremental margins in that way. But I get your point on life sciences and pest. The life sciences, you saw the OI growth in low single digits in Q4. But frankly, that was as we expected because we had targeted OI margins in that mid-teen range. And it was due to two things. One, as we've talked about, we're investing in that business. Underlying margins are actually better. And then on top of it, you had a year-on-year comparison, sort of bad comp, if you will, on life sciences, really because of performance-based compensation. And that business sales accelerate throughout the year, as Christophe talked about. And the OI growth for the full year was 30%. And so they've earned that performance-based compensation.
Speaker #7: John, as we've talked about in the past, we don't really think about incremental margins in that way. But I get your point on Life Sciences and the past.
Speaker #7: In Life Sciences, you saw the OI growth in low single digits in Q4. But frankly, that was as we expected because we had targeted OI margins in that mid-teen range.
Speaker #7: It was due to two things. One, as we've talked about, we're investing in that business—underlying margins are actually better. And then, on top of it, you had a year-on-year comparison, sort of a bad comp, if you will, on Life Sciences.
Speaker #7: Really because of performance-based compensation, and that business sales accelerate throughout the year, as Christoph talked about. And the OI growth for the full year was 30%.
Speaker #7: And so they've earned that performance-based compensation. But we really expect that business going forward to increase that OI, to increase double digits into '26 and going forward.
Benjamin Luke McFadden: But we really expect that business going forward to increase that OI to increase double digits into 2026 and going forward. And then pest, as you mentioned, was sort of the opposite. And again, that was comparing against a comp last year. As you might remember, we had a spike in accidents at the end of last year, which was creating a lower base point for them. But again, that business is doing really well, as Christophe said, growing 7% top line and OI margins north of 20%. And we expect to continue that trajectory.
Scott Kirkland: But we really expect that business going forward to increase that OI to increase double digits into 2026 and going forward. And then pest, as you mentioned, was sort of the opposite. And again, that was comparing against a comp last year. As you might remember, we had a spike in accidents at the end of last year, which was creating a lower base point for them. But again, that business is doing really well, as Christophe said, growing 7% top line and OI margins north of 20%. And we expect to continue that trajectory.
Speaker #7: And then past, as you mentioned, was sort of the opposite. And again, that was comparing against a comp last year. As you might remember, we had a spike in accidents at the end of last year, which was creating a lower base point for them.
Speaker #7: But again, that business is doing really well. As Christophe said, growing 7% top line, and OI margins north of 20%. And we expect to continue that.
Speaker #7: trajectory. So maybe a few
Christophe Beck: So maybe a few points here to build on what Scott just said. Not every quarter is created equal. You can have year-on-year obviously some comparisons like our acquisitions in pest elimination, which were unfortunate a year prior. Obviously, that's changing obviously the margin profile on a year-on-year basis. It's also investment pacing by business. We all, in the spirit of investing the right way, at the right time, it's not always equal in every quarter. And here I'm speaking about life science, for instance, as well. But generally, it's really making sure that we get to beat the 20% OI margin that we've talked about so far 2027. We feel really good about it. So we're at 18%. So last year, we're planning to be north of 19% in 2026.
Christophe Beck: So maybe a few points here to build on what Scott just said. Not every quarter is created equal. You can have year-on-year obviously some comparisons like our acquisitions in pest elimination, which were unfortunate a year prior. Obviously, that's changing obviously the margin profile on a year-on-year basis. It's also investment pacing by business. We all, in the spirit of investing the right way, at the right time, it's not always equal in every quarter. And here I'm speaking about life science, for instance, as well. But generally, it's really making sure that we get to beat the 20% OI margin that we've talked about so far 2027. We feel really good about it. So we're at 18%. So last year, we're planning to be north of 19% in 2026.
Speaker #4: Points. Here's to build on what Scott just said. So not every quarter is created equal. You can have year-on-year business comparisons, like our accidents are in past elimination, which were unfortunate a year prior.
Speaker #4: Obviously, that's changing. Obviously, the margin profile on a year-on-year basis. It's also investment pacing by business. We are all in the spirit of investing the right way at the right time.
Speaker #4: It's not always equal in every quarter—and here I'm speaking about Life Sciences, for instance, as well. But generally, it's really making sure that we get or beat the 20% OI margin that we've talked about over 2027.
Speaker #4: We feel really good about it. So we're at 18%. Last year, we were planning to be north of 19% in '26. And I'm already thinking about, so what's beyond the 20%?
Christophe Beck: I'm already thinking about what's beyond the 20% because many of our businesses are either beyond 20% already or have underlying margins that are already north of it, which is the case of Life Sciences.
Christophe Beck: I'm already thinking about what's beyond the 20% because many of our businesses are either beyond 20% already or have underlying margins that are already north of it, which is the case of Life Sciences.
Speaker #4: Because many of our businesses are either beyond 20% already, or have underlying margins that are already north of it, which is the case for Life Sciences.
Speaker #2: Our next question is from the line of Chris Parkinson with Wolfe Research. Please just use your
Christophe Beck: Our next question is from the line of Chris Parkinson with Wolfe Research. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Our next question is from the line of Chris Parkinson with Wolfe Research. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #2: question. Good afternoon.
Benjamin Luke McFadden: Good afternoon. Christophe, if we could just dig in a little bit to what you're seeing in the global water business. Over the last couple of quarters, there's been a bit of a divergence between light and heavy within water. Mining seems mixed, perhaps some life-concerning metals. F&B seems like it's inflected, and papers continue to be a drag. But can you just kind of give the way you give us some insights on how you're thinking about that business in 2026, what you would need to see at the top and the bottom end? And forgive me for coming up in my own range, but to the 3.5% to 4.5% range, call it fourth, fifth point, obviously. Just how are you thinking about this business, and what are you hearing from your teams to kind of confirm or deny the bottom or the top end of that range?
Chris Parkinson: Good afternoon. Christophe, if we could just dig in a little bit to what you're seeing in the global water business. Over the last couple of quarters, there's been a bit of a divergence between light and heavy within water. Mining seems mixed, perhaps some life-concerning metals. F&B seems like it's inflected, and papers continue to be a drag. But can you just kind of give the way you give us some insights on how you're thinking about that business in 2026, what you would need to see at the top and the bottom end? And forgive me for coming up in my own range, but to the 3.5% to 4.5% range, call it fourth, fifth point, obviously. Just how are you thinking about this business, and what are you hearing from your teams to kind of confirm or deny the bottom or the top end of that range?
Speaker #7: Christoph, if we could just dig in a little bit to what you're seeing in the global water business. Over the last couple of quarters, there's been a bit of a divergence between light and heavy within water. Mining seems mixed, perhaps some life and certain metals. F&B seems like it's inflected.
Speaker #7: And papers continue to be a drag. But can you just kind of give the way you're give us some insights on how you're thinking about that business in 2026?
Speaker #7: What you would need to see at the top and the bottom end? And forgive me for coming out of my own four and a half percent range, call it fourth midpoint, range, but to the three and a half to obviously.
Speaker #7: Just how are you thinking about this business? And what are you hearing from your teams to kind of confirm or deny the bottom or the top end of that range?
Speaker #7: Thank
Benjamin Luke McFadden: Thank you.
Chris Parkinson: Thank you.
Speaker #7: you. I'd love
Christophe Beck: I'd love to, Chris. Water is half the company. It's a big chunk of it. We've built that business since 2011, obviously, when we acquired Nalco. Our ambition was really to create the world's water company. We've come to that ambition over the last 10 years. There is that feeling that we're just getting started on that journey. Now, that being said, we're serving many end markets with water. Obviously, some are growing very fast, and some are growing a little bit less. But no one has the capabilities that we do have and the reach that we have around the world, plus the digital technology that we bring into it in order for our customers to reuse and recycle water. So in a closed circle, as mentioned, so for the GHT or Global High-Tech example, as I described a little bit before.
Christophe Beck: I'd love to, Chris. Water is half the company. It's a big chunk of it. We've built that business since 2011, obviously, when we acquired Nalco. Our ambition was really to create the world's water company. We've come to that ambition over the last 10 years. There is that feeling that we're just getting started on that journey. Now, that being said, we're serving many end markets with water. Obviously, some are growing very fast, and some are growing a little bit less. But no one has the capabilities that we do have and the reach that we have around the world, plus the digital technology that we bring into it in order for our customers to reuse and recycle water. So in a closed circle, as mentioned, so for the GHT or Global High-Tech example, as I described a little bit before.
Speaker #4: To Chris: Water is half the company, so it's a big chunk of it. We've built that business since 2011, obviously when we acquired Malco, and our ambition was really to create the world's water company.
Speaker #4: And we've come to that ambition over the last 10 years. And there is that feeling that we're just getting started. On that journey. Now, that being said, we're serving many end markets.
Speaker #4: With water, obviously, some are growing very fast and some are growing a little bit less. But no one has the capabilities that we do have.
Speaker #4: And the reach that we have around the world, plus the digital technology that we're bringing to it in order for our customers. So to reuse and recycle water.
Speaker #4: So, in a closed circle, as mentioned—so for the GHG, or Global High-Tech example, as I described a little bit before—if we look at the performance of that business, Chris, yes, we grew 2% organic in Q4 as a whole.
Christophe Beck: So if we look at the performance of that business, Chris, yes, we grew 2% organic in Q4 as a whole. But if you exclude basic and paper, which are in a downpour of the cycle, well, water was growing 5% in Q4, which is very strong performance. And we still want to get better than that. As I mentioned, so the biggest business in there is food and beverage. We are merging hygiene and water to provide the best solutions for our customers around the world. We've done it in North America. It's led to very good results. 5% for that business is good in an industry that's flat, by the way. I mean, the end customers that we are serving as well here. And we've only done North America with F&B United. We're going to keep expanding around the world.
Christophe Beck: So if we look at the performance of that business, Chris, yes, we grew 2% organic in Q4 as a whole. But if you exclude basic and paper, which are in a downpour of the cycle, well, water was growing 5% in Q4, which is very strong performance. And we still want to get better than that. As I mentioned, so the biggest business in there is food and beverage. We are merging hygiene and water to provide the best solutions for our customers around the world. We've done it in North America. It's led to very good results. 5% for that business is good in an industry that's flat, by the way. I mean, the end customers that we are serving as well here. And we've only done North America with F&B United. We're going to keep expanding around the world.
Speaker #4: But if you exclude Basic and Paper, which are down part of the cycle, well, Water was growing 5% in Q4, which is very strong performance.
Speaker #4: And we still want to get better than that. As I mentioned, the biggest business in there is Food and Beverage. We are merging Hygiene and Water to provide the best solutions for our customers around the world.
Speaker #4: We've done it in North America. It's led to very good results. Five percent for that business is good in an industry that's flat, by the way.
Speaker #4: I mean, the end customers that we are serving as well here. And we've only done North America. With F&B United, we're going to keep expanding around the world.
Speaker #4: Then there is the global high-tech story that I just described. Before, Chris, which is close to a billion dollars, which is growing. So in strong double-digit, rate with very high margins as well at the same time.
Christophe Beck: Then there is the Global High-Tech story that I just described before, Chris, which is close to $1 billion, which is growing. So in strong double-digit rates with very high margins as well at the same time. And then you have all the businesses in between, from manufacturing areas, for instance, to our institutional water business as well, which is providing water services to our institutional businesses as well, bottom line. So we end up with a business that's underlying growth is close to the mid-singles. So this 5% dragged down by basic and paper. But those two will recover. That's the good and the less good things of a little bit more cyclical businesses. And we will deal with that. So you bring together strong underlying growth, acceleration in Global High-Tech, and recovering of basic and paper industries.
Christophe Beck: Then there is the Global High-Tech story that I just described before, Chris, which is close to $1 billion, which is growing. So in strong double-digit rates with very high margins as well at the same time. And then you have all the businesses in between, from manufacturing areas, for instance, to our institutional water business as well, which is providing water services to our institutional businesses as well, bottom line. So we end up with a business that's underlying growth is close to the mid-singles. So this 5% dragged down by basic and paper. But those two will recover. That's the good and the less good things of a little bit more cyclical businesses. And we will deal with that. So you bring together strong underlying growth, acceleration in Global High-Tech, and recovering of basic and paper industries.
Speaker #4: And then you have all the businesses in between. From manufacturing areas, for instance, to our Institutional Water business as well, which is providing water services to our institutional businesses as well.
Speaker #4: But bottom line, we end up with a business whose underlying growth is close to the mid-singles. So, this 5% is dragged down by Basic and Paper.
Speaker #4: Recover. But those two will. That's the good and the less good things of a little bit more cyclical businesses. And we will deal with that.
Speaker #4: So, you bring together strong underlying growth, acceleration in global high-tech, and recovery of basic and paper industries. And you end up in a pretty good place in a business that has strong margins.
Christophe Beck: You end up in a pretty good place in a business that has strong margins. We had a very good quarter in Q4. I think it was the second highest quarter of the last five years from a margin perspective. Water will get as well so to the 20% and move beyond the 20% in the years to come.
Christophe Beck: You end up in a pretty good place in a business that has strong margins. We had a very good quarter in Q4. I think it was the second highest quarter of the last five years from a margin perspective. Water will get as well so to the 20% and move beyond the 20% in the years to come.
Speaker #4: We had a very good quarter in Q4. I think it was the second-highest quarter of the last five years, from a margin perspective.
Speaker #4: And water will get as well. So, to the 20%, and move beyond the 20% in the years to come.
Speaker #2: Thank you. The next question is from the line of Seth Weber with BNP Paribas. Please just use your
Christophe Beck: Thank you. The next question is from the line of Seth Weber with BNP Paribas. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. The next question is from the line of Seth Weber with BNP Paribas. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #2: question. Christoph, in
Benjamin Luke McFadden: Christophe, in your prepared remarks and the slide deck, there were a bunch of mentions about new business wins. I'm wondering, can you just give a little bit more color around that? Are these conquests from other providers or just new companies that are new to the space that are kind of just adding suppliers? Or any color around these new business wins would be helpful. Thank you.
Seth Weber: Christophe, in your prepared remarks and the slide deck, there were a bunch of mentions about new business wins. I'm wondering, can you just give a little bit more color around that? Are these conquests from other providers or just new companies that are new to the space that are kind of just adding suppliers? Or any color around these new business wins would be helpful. Thank you.
Speaker #8: In your prepared remarks and the slide deck, there were a bunch of mentions about new business wins. I'm wondering, can you just give a little bit more color around that?
Speaker #8: Are these conquests from other providers, or just new companies that are new to the space that are kind of just adding suppliers? Any color around these new business wins would be helpful.
Speaker #8: Thank you.
Speaker #5: Yeah, new business is the number one focus of the whole company. We have this mantra of 'we're all in sales.' So, no one is not selling in the company.
Christophe Beck: Yeah. New business is the number 1 focus of the whole company. We have this mantra of we're all in sales. So no one is not selling in the company. It's either you're dealing with customers every single day, or you're supporting someone. We're serving customers every single day. I have this objective myself to meet, once a week, the CEO of a customer. And last year, I met close to 100 customers as well. So this is where we all collectively spend most of our time. Now, we are focusing first and foremost on our current customers and our largest customers as well. As mentioned earlier, our top 35 customers have a gross potential of $3.5 billion. Well, this is where we want to focus our attention first and foremost because it's the most obvious growth to get.
Christophe Beck: Yeah. New business is the number 1 focus of the whole company. We have this mantra of we're all in sales. So no one is not selling in the company. It's either you're dealing with customers every single day, or you're supporting someone. We're serving customers every single day. I have this objective myself to meet, once a week, the CEO of a customer. And last year, I met close to 100 customers as well. So this is where we all collectively spend most of our time. Now, we are focusing first and foremost on our current customers and our largest customers as well. As mentioned earlier, our top 35 customers have a gross potential of $3.5 billion. Well, this is where we want to focus our attention first and foremost because it's the most obvious growth to get.
Speaker #5: It's either you're dealing with customers every single day, or you're supporting someone who is serving customers every single day. I have this objective myself to meet once a week with the CEO of a customer.
Speaker #5: And last year, I met close to 100 customers as well. So this is where we all collectively spend most of our time. Now, we are focusing first and foremost on our current customers.
Speaker #5: And our largest customers as well. As mentioned earlier, our top 35 customers have a gross potential of $3.5 billion. Well, this is where we want to focus our attention first and foremost, because it's the most obvious growth to get.
Speaker #5: And that's why we're growing much faster with those customers than everyone else. And it's the most cost-effective way of using so to get new business because we have service people going into those sites already today.
Christophe Beck: And that's why we're growing much faster with those customers than everyone else. And it's the most cost-effective way, obviously, so to get new business because we have service people going into those sites already today. So it's extending the share of wallet. And at the same time, it's helping our customers because we go with end-to-end solutions, helping them get to best-in-class performance. They get better Total Value Delivered, better for their P&L. We get a share of it. So at the same time, we get higher growth, better margin for us, and it's a better deal for our customers. That's the first priority that we have. And second, it's to do the same for our local large customers around the world. And the third priority are more the individual customers around the world.
Christophe Beck: And that's why we're growing much faster with those customers than everyone else. And it's the most cost-effective way, obviously, so to get new business because we have service people going into those sites already today. So it's extending the share of wallet. And at the same time, it's helping our customers because we go with end-to-end solutions, helping them get to best-in-class performance. They get better Total Value Delivered, better for their P&L. We get a share of it. So at the same time, we get higher growth, better margin for us, and it's a better deal for our customers. That's the first priority that we have. And second, it's to do the same for our local large customers around the world. And the third priority are more the individual customers around the world.
Speaker #5: So it's expanding the share of wallet, and at the same time, it's helping our customers because we go with end-to-end solutions, helping them get to best-in-class performance.
Speaker #5: They get better total value delivered—better for their P&L. We get a share of it. So, at the same time, we get higher growth, better margin for us, and it's a better deal for our customers.
Speaker #5: That's the first priority that we have. And second, it's to do the same for our local large customers around the world and the third priority are more the individual customers around the world.
Speaker #5: And the last thing I’d say, we had our global blitz two weeks ago, which is engaging the whole organization around the world on your business.
Christophe Beck: The last thing I'd say, we had our global blitz two weeks ago, which is engaging the whole organization around the world on new business. Within one week, we managed to grow our new business versus the same week a year ago by over 30% during that week as well. So a very good story. Our value proposition is very well received by our customers because they need it more than ever, either because they don't have enough water, or they're trying to improve their cost performance because they have price pressure, cost pressure, and so on. This is the value that Ecolab provides to them. This is the way we sell. And this is why our new business is going very well, while retention remains very stable as well across our businesses around the world.
Christophe Beck: The last thing I'd say, we had our global blitz two weeks ago, which is engaging the whole organization around the world on new business. Within one week, we managed to grow our new business versus the same week a year ago by over 30% during that week as well. So a very good story. Our value proposition is very well received by our customers because they need it more than ever, either because they don't have enough water, or they're trying to improve their cost performance because they have price pressure, cost pressure, and so on. This is the value that Ecolab provides to them. This is the way we sell. And this is why our new business is going very well, while retention remains very stable as well across our businesses around the world.
Speaker #5: And within one week, we managed to grow our new business versus the same week a year ago by over 30% during that week as well.
Speaker #5: So, a very good story or a value proposition is very well received by our customers because they need it more than ever—either because they don't have enough water, or they're trying to improve their cost performance because they have price pressure, cost pressure, and so on.
Speaker #5: This is the value that Ecolab provides to them. This is the way we sell, and this is why our new business is going very well, while retention remains very stable as well.
Speaker #5: So, across our businesses around the world.
Speaker #2: Thank you. The next question is from the line of Andrew Whitman with Baird. Please just use your
Christophe Beck: Thank you. The next question is from the line of Andrew Wittmann with Baird. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. The next question is from the line of Andrew Wittmann with Baird. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #2: question. Great.
Benjamin Luke McFadden: Great. Excuse me. Thank you. I guess I wanted to ask a couple kind of maybe kind of punchlist items here. But usually, you all have a view on FX that's included in your guidance. And I didn't see one in this press release, Scott. I was wondering if you could talk about the FX rates that are implicit in your EPS guidance rates. So that was kind of one there. And then on the expected volume improvements on the water side, Christophe, are you seeing that? Is this just going to be a comps game where the comps get easier? Or are you, in fact, expecting the volumes in some of those more challenged industries to actually improve? And if so, what are you looking at that gives you that indication? Thank you.
Andrew Wittmann: Great. Excuse me. Thank you. I guess I wanted to ask a couple kind of maybe kind of punchlist items here. But usually, you all have a view on FX that's included in your guidance. And I didn't see one in this press release, Scott. I was wondering if you could talk about the FX rates that are implicit in your EPS guidance rates. So that was kind of one there. And then on the expected volume improvements on the water side, Christophe, are you seeing that? Is this just going to be a comps game where the comps get easier? Or are you, in fact, expecting the volumes in some of those more challenged industries to actually improve? And if so, what are you looking at that gives you that indication? Thank you.
Speaker #8: Excuse me. Thank you. I guess I wanted to ask a couple of kind of, maybe, kind of punch list items here. But usually, you all have a view on FX that's included in your guidance.
Speaker #8: And I didn't see one in this press release, Scott. I was wondering if you could talk about the FX rates that are implicit in your EPS guidance raise.
Speaker #8: So, that was kind of one there. And then, just on the expected volume improvements on the water side, Christoph, are you seeing that—is this just going to be a comps game where the comps get easier?
Speaker #8: Or are you, in fact, expecting the volumes in some of those more challenged industries to actually improve? And if so, what are you looking at that gives you that indication?
Speaker #8: Thank you.
Speaker #5: Thank you, Andy. So let me start with the second part, and then I'll pass the FX to Scott. So, very different questions. Obviously, the new business in for the whole company has kept going up in absolute terms.
Christophe Beck: Thank you, Andy. So let me start with the second part, and then I'll pass the FX to Scott. So very different questions, obviously. The new business for the whole company has kept going up in absolute terms, so dollar of net new business, so net of what we might have lost, which is very little usually. This is true for water. And this is true for the challenged businesses as well of basic and paper. They also got to record new business. It's just that the demand then afterwards of those businesses is lower year-over-year. And that's driving the growth or the slight decline that these two businesses are experiencing as well at the same time. But generally, new business, Andy, is a very strong proposition for us.
Christophe Beck: Thank you, Andy. So let me start with the second part, and then I'll pass the FX to Scott. So very different questions, obviously. The new business for the whole company has kept going up in absolute terms, so dollar of net new business, so net of what we might have lost, which is very little usually. This is true for water. And this is true for the challenged businesses as well of basic and paper. They also got to record new business. It's just that the demand then afterwards of those businesses is lower year-over-year. And that's driving the growth or the slight decline that these two businesses are experiencing as well at the same time. But generally, new business, Andy, is a very strong proposition for us.
Speaker #5: So, dollar of net new business—so, net of what we might have lost, which is very little, usually. This is true for Water, and this is true for the challenged businesses as well, of Basic and Paper.
Speaker #5: They also got to record new business. It's just that the demand, then, afterwards, for those businesses is lower year on year. And that's driving the growth or the slight decline that these two businesses are experiencing as well at the same time.
Speaker #5: But generally, new business is a very strong proposition for us. That's why we focused the whole organization on it, making sure that whatever happens out there, new business is where you need to focus your time, gain share, even in a market that might be declining.
Christophe Beck: That's why we focus the whole organization on it, making sure that whatever happens out there, new business is where you need to focus your time, gain share, even in a market that might be declining. So good story even in our challenged businesses. Now on FX, Scott?
Christophe Beck: That's why we focus the whole organization on it, making sure that whatever happens out there, new business is where you need to focus your time, gain share, even in a market that might be declining. So good story even in our challenged businesses. Now on FX, Scott?
Speaker #5: So, good story even in our challenged businesses. Now, on...
Speaker #5: FX, Scott. Yeah.
Benjamin Luke McFadden: Yeah. Happy to answer the mechanical questions, Andy. So on the FX for 2026, we're not expecting significant help or hurt. We're sort of thinking it's neutral the year, just given the current position of the dollar, probably slightly favorable in the first half, but really assuming neutral in the second half going in. Obviously, the FX is pretty dynamic, the macro environment. So that could change. But that's our going-in assumption. But even any upside in the first half, as you look at sort of all items below OI, there's going to be offsets to that as we had in our guidance that the tax rate is going to go up from the 20.2% we had this year to somewhere between 20.5% to 21.5%. And then also, which wasn't in our specific guidance, but other income is going to be a little bit of a headwind.
Scott Kirkland: Yeah. Happy to answer the mechanical questions, Andy. So on the FX for 2026, we're not expecting significant help or hurt. We're sort of thinking it's neutral the year, just given the current position of the dollar, probably slightly favorable in the first half, but really assuming neutral in the second half going in. Obviously, the FX is pretty dynamic, the macro environment. So that could change. But that's our going-in assumption. But even any upside in the first half, as you look at sort of all items below OI, there's going to be offsets to that as we had in our guidance that the tax rate is going to go up from the 20.2% we had this year to somewhere between 20.5% to 21.5%. And then also, which wasn't in our specific guidance, but other income is going to be a little bit of a headwind.
Speaker #8: Having to answer the mechanical questions, Andy. So on the FX for '26, we're not expecting a significant help or hurt. We're sort of thinking it's neutral for the year.
Speaker #8: Just given the current position of the dollar, probably slightly favorable in the first half, but really assuming neutral in the second half going in.
Speaker #8: Obviously, the FX is pretty dynamic. The macro environment. So that could change. But that's our going in assumption. But even any upside in the first half, as you look at sort of all items below OI, there's going to be offsets to that as we had in our guidance that the tax rate is going to go up from the 20.2 we had this year to somewhere between 20.5 to 21.5.
Speaker #8: And then also, which wasn't in our specific guidance, but other income is going to be a little bit of a headwind. It'll be about $30 million next year, so that's about a $20 million decrease on that other income just due to pension assumptions.
Benjamin Luke McFadden: It'll be about $30 million next year. So that's about a $20 million decrease on that other income just due to pension assumptions. So if you look at as a whole below OI items, they're not a net help to us.
Scott Kirkland: It'll be about $30 million next year. So that's about a $20 million decrease on that other income just due to pension assumptions. So if you look at as a whole below OI items, they're not a net help to us.
Speaker #8: So, if you look at, as a whole, below OI items, they're not a net help to us. But maybe a point on this FX, because it's always—when we think about sort of the next year or the beginning of the year.
Christophe Beck: But maybe a point on this FX because it's always, when we think about the next year or the beginning of the year, so what are the assumptions that we've taken. When I think a year ago or even all the years prior, Andy, we were almost never right. We thought that FX would be a massive headwind in 2025, while it was not. We thought that our delivered product cost would be pretty benign. Okay, the whole tariff situation changed quite a bit during the year as we now. And we adjusted. So we've gotten used to become very agile to adapt to local conditions and make absolutely sure that we still deliver out to up to $15 earnings per share. So we hope or we think that FX is going to be pretty benign in 2026. Maybe it's not.
Christophe Beck: But maybe a point on this FX because it's always, when we think about the next year or the beginning of the year, so what are the assumptions that we've taken. When I think a year ago or even all the years prior, Andy, we were almost never right. We thought that FX would be a massive headwind in 2025, while it was not. We thought that our delivered product cost would be pretty benign. Okay, the whole tariff situation changed quite a bit during the year as we now. And we adjusted. So we've gotten used to become very agile to adapt to local conditions and make absolutely sure that we still deliver out to up to $15 earnings per share. So we hope or we think that FX is going to be pretty benign in 2026. Maybe it's not.
Speaker #8: So what are the assumptions that we've taken? When I think a year ago, or even all the years prior, Andy, we were almost never right.
Speaker #8: We thought that FX would be a massive headwind in 2025, while it was not. We thought that our delivered product cost would be pretty benign.
Speaker #8: Okay. The whole tariff situation changed quite a bit during—we adjusted, so we've got news to become very agile, to adapt to local conditions and make absolutely sure that we still deliver our $12 to $15 earnings per share.
Speaker #8: So, we hope or we think that FX is going to be pretty benign in '26. Maybe it's not. And if it's not, we will adjust accordingly, as well as we've done in the past few.
Christophe Beck: And if it's not, we will adjust accordingly as well as we've done in the past few years.
Christophe Beck: And if it's not, we will adjust accordingly as well as we've done in the past few years.
Speaker #8: years. Thank
Christophe Beck: Thank you. The next question is from the line of Vincent Andrews with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. The next question is from the line of Vincent Andrews with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #2: You. The next question is from the line of Vincent Andrews with Morgan Stanley. Please just use your question.
Speaker #9: Thank you, and good afternoon. Just a question on the One Ecolab cost savings. You raised it again, and I'm just wondering if your assessment is that this will probably be the last raise to it, or if you still think there's opportunity there—and maybe there's some conservatism in the number, because it looks like the cash costs associated with achieving these benefits are still nicely above the benefits themselves.
Manav Patnaik: Thank you. Good afternoon. Just a question on the One Ecolab cost savings. You raised it again. I'm just wondering if your assessment is that this will probably be the last raise to it or if you still think there's opportunity there. Maybe there's some conservatism in the number because it looks like the cash costs associated with achieving these benefits are still nicely above the benefits themselves. I often think of those two lines or those two numbers ultimately intersecting. Maybe just your latest thoughts there and how that might carry forward into 2027. Thank you.
Vincent Andrews: Thank you. Good afternoon. Just a question on the One Ecolab cost savings. You raised it again. I'm just wondering if your assessment is that this will probably be the last raise to it or if you still think there's opportunity there. Maybe there's some conservatism in the number because it looks like the cash costs associated with achieving these benefits are still nicely above the benefits themselves. I often think of those two lines or those two numbers ultimately intersecting. Maybe just your latest thoughts there and how that might carry forward into 2027. Thank you.
Speaker #9: And I often think of those two lines, or those two numbers, ultimately intersecting. So, maybe just your latest thoughts there and how that might carry forward into '27.
Speaker #9: Thank you.
Speaker #8: You know, maybe a comment before I pass it to Scott. I don't think it's conservatism. It could have been, but it's not. In that case, we're leveraging, obviously, the technology—AI agents, agentic technology—as well here.
Christophe Beck: Maybe a comment before I pass it to Scott. I don't think it's conservatism. It could have been, but it's not in that case. We're leveraging, obviously, so technology, AI agents, agentic technology as well here that no one has really done so far. So there's no real benchmark blueprint out there. You've probably seen that we ranked number 9 on the Fortune AI list of most prepared companies. So for the age of AI, I really so encourage the whole team to embrace technology, to stay at the frontier of what's out there, and to see how it works. And for the most part, it's been a very good story. It's not the perfect story.
Christophe Beck: Maybe a comment before I pass it to Scott. I don't think it's conservatism. It could have been, but it's not in that case. We're leveraging, obviously, so technology, AI agents, agentic technology as well here that no one has really done so far. So there's no real benchmark blueprint out there. You've probably seen that we ranked number 9 on the Fortune AI list of most prepared companies. So for the age of AI, I really so encourage the whole team to embrace technology, to stay at the frontier of what's out there, and to see how it works. And for the most part, it's been a very good story. It's not the perfect story.
Speaker #8: No one has really done so far, so there's no real benchmark blueprint out there. You probably saw that we rank number nine on the Fortune AI list of most prepared companies.
Speaker #8: So, for the age of AI, I really encouraged the whole team to embrace technology, to stay at the frontier of what's out there, and to see how it works.
Speaker #8: And for the most part, it's been a very good story. It's not the perfect story. There are places where it didn't work. But 80% of the time, it's working really well—where it's driving better outcomes for our customers, for our teams, the way we operate—while at the same time driving huge productivity gains. And my feeling is that it's going to keep improving.
Christophe Beck: There are places where it didn't work, but 80% of the time, it's working really well, where it's driving better outcome for our customers, for our teams, the way we operate, while at the same time driving huge productivity gains. My feeling is that it's going to keep improving in the years to come. We don't know exactly where it's going to come from because the technology, in some cases, doesn't even exist. Scott?
Christophe Beck: There are places where it didn't work, but 80% of the time, it's working really well, where it's driving better outcome for our customers, for our teams, the way we operate, while at the same time driving huge productivity gains. My feeling is that it's going to keep improving in the years to come. We don't know exactly where it's going to come from because the technology, in some cases, doesn't even exist. Scott?
Speaker #8: In the years to come, but we don't know exactly where it's going to come from, because the technology in some cases doesn't even exist.
Speaker #8: Scott: Yeah. Christophe said it very well, Vincent. The savings momentum is better than we expected—it’s moving from that $225 million to the $325 million now by 2027.
Benjamin Luke McFadden: Yeah. Christophe said it very well, Vincent. The savings momentum is better than we expected, as you said, moving from that 225 to the 325 now by 2027. And it's that way as we're learning, but also moving up the value chain as we deploy technology and AI in these high-touch processes and then leveraging the global COEs that Christophe referenced before, which allows us to deploy that technology at scale. But I think as we think about 2026 to 2027, that incremental $200 million from what we've already realized, I would think about that pretty evenly. And then long term, this is really an enabler to this 25 to 50 basis points of SG&A leverage, which is our long-term target. And that's relative to historically what we've done about 20 to 30 basis points.
Scott Kirkland: Yeah. Christophe said it very well, Vincent. The savings momentum is better than we expected, as you said, moving from that 225 to the 325 now by 2027. And it's that way as we're learning, but also moving up the value chain as we deploy technology and AI in these high-touch processes and then leveraging the global COEs that Christophe referenced before, which allows us to deploy that technology at scale. But I think as we think about 2026 to 2027, that incremental $200 million from what we've already realized, I would think about that pretty evenly. And then long term, this is really an enabler to this 25 to 50 basis points of SG&A leverage, which is our long-term target. And that's relative to historically what we've done about 20 to 30 basis points.
Speaker #8: And it's that way as we're learning, but also moving up the value chain as we deploy technology and AI in these high-touch processes. And then leveraging the global COEs that Christophe referenced before, which allows us to deploy that technology at scale.
Speaker #8: But I think as we think about '26 to '27, that incremental $200 million from what we've already realized—I would think about that pretty evenly.
Speaker #8: And then long term, this is really an enabler to this 25 to 50 basis point divestiture A leverage, which is our long-term target. And that's to 30 basis points.
Speaker #8: So really, almost doubling our estimated leverage that we've had historically, enabled by the One Ecolab and the scalability that it provides.
Benjamin Luke McFadden: So really almost doubling our SG&A leverage that we've had historically enabled by the One Ecolab and the scalability that it provides.
Scott Kirkland: So really almost doubling our SG&A leverage that we've had historically enabled by the One Ecolab and the scalability that it provides.
Speaker #2: Thank you. At this time, the next line of questions comes from Patrick Cunningham with Citibank. Please just use your...
Christophe Beck: Thank you. At this time, the next question is from the line of Patrick Cunningham with Citi. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. At this time, the next question is from the line of Patrick Cunningham with Citi. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #2: question. Hi.
Ashish Sabadra: Hi. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Just on the digital sales piece, could you maybe give us an update on how your ability to monetize these technologies has evolved in 2025, where you ultimately see it going, and where you're getting the best traction with customers?
Patrick Cunningham: Hi. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Just on the digital sales piece, could you maybe give us an update on how your ability to monetize these technologies has evolved in 2025, where you ultimately see it going, and where you're getting the best traction with customers?
Speaker #10: Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Just on the digital sales piece, could you maybe give us an update on how your ability to monetize these technologies has evolved in 2025?
Speaker #10: Where do you ultimately see it going? And where are you getting the best traction with?
Speaker #10: customers? Thank you both.
Christophe Beck: Thanks, Earl, about to acknowledge that question. Well, at Ecolab, we've been for a long time in the business of building great new businesses. Ecolab Digital, as we know, as you know, is a fairly new business that we started 2 years ago. It's not that we started digital technology and digital offerings to our customers 2 years ago. We just did it as part of our offering for 30 years when we invested in 3D TRASAR technology. We haven't monetized directly that offering to our customers for, okay, 28 years of the last 30 years that we've been in that field. So we're building that new organization. We created a dedicated organization on that opportunity. It is in the early years. It's not perfect. It's a bit rough on the edges at the beginning. But that's always been true when we build new businesses.
Christophe Beck: Thanks, Patrick, about to acknowledge that question. Well, at Ecolab, we've been for a long time in the business of building great new businesses. Ecolab Digital, as we know, as you know, is a fairly new business that we started 2 years ago. It's not that we started digital technology and digital offerings to our customers 2 years ago. We just did it as part of our offering for 30 years when we invested in 3D TRASAR technology. We haven't monetized directly that offering to our customers for, okay, 28 years of the last 30 years that we've been in that field. So we're building that new organization. We created a dedicated organization on that opportunity. It is in the early years. It's not perfect. It's a bit rough on the edges at the beginning. But that's always been true when we build new businesses.
Speaker #11: We love that question. Well, if we could, we've been for a long time in the business of building great new businesses. And Ecolab Digital, as we know—as you know—is a fairly new business that we started two years ago.
Speaker #11: It's not that we started digital technology and digital offerings to our customers two years ago. We just did it as part of our offering for 30 years, when we invested in 3D TRASAR technology.
Speaker #11: And we haven't monetized directly that offering to our customers for, okay, 28 years of the last 30 years that we've been in that field.
Speaker #11: So, we're building that new organization. We created the dedicated organization on that opportunity. It is in the early years. It's not perfect. It's a bit rough on the edges.
Speaker #11: At the beginning, but that's always been true when we built new businesses. But the fact that we are already generating close to $400 million of sales, which encompasses only two components of it—it's connected hardware.
Christophe Beck: But the fact that we are already generating close to $400 million of sales, which encompasses only two components of it, it's connected hardware and it's software. Those are the two elements that are driving those $400 million, a very high margin and growing, obviously, north of 20%. And I think we'll grow probably 25% in 2026 as well here. And we're really at the beginning of it. The way we think about digital sales at Ecolab, and especially in the future, is what we call the 100, 100, 100, where 100% of the customer locations that we serve will have to be connected. 100% of the applications that we provide to each of those locations think about a hotel where you have a dish machine, a laundry machine, an AC unit, pest elimination, EcoSure audit systems, and all that. Those are the applications.
Christophe Beck: But the fact that we are already generating close to $400 million of sales, which encompasses only two components of it, it's connected hardware and it's software. Those are the two elements that are driving those $400 million, a very high margin and growing, obviously, north of 20%. And I think we'll grow probably 25% in 2026 as well here. And we're really at the beginning of it. The way we think about digital sales at Ecolab, and especially in the future, is what we call the 100, 100, 100, where 100% of the customer locations that we serve will have to be connected. 100% of the applications that we provide to each of those locations think about a hotel where you have a dish machine, a laundry machine, an AC unit, pest elimination, EcoSure audit systems, and all that. Those are the applications.
Speaker #11: And it's software. Those are the two elements that are driving those $400 million, at very high margin, and growing obviously north of 20%. And I think we'll grow probably 25% in '26 as well here.
Speaker #11: And we're really at the beginning of it. You know, the way we think about digital sales at Ecolab, and especially in the future, is what we call the 100, 100, 100.
Speaker #11: Where 100% of the customer locations that we serve will have to be connected. 100% of the applications that we provide to each of those locations—think about the hotel, where you have the dish machine, the laundry machine, an AC unit, pest elimination, EcoSure audit systems, and all that.
Speaker #11: Those are the applications. 100% of them need to be connected. And the third element is 100% of the time, where people pay for it all.
Christophe Beck: 100% of them need to be connected. The third element is 100% of the time where people pay for it. So 100% of the units, 100% of the applications, 100% billable offering. This is the way we think about it. That's why when I think about the $400 million we have today, we have just scratched the surface of what we can do. We still have a lot of customers using those technologies that do not pay because they're still on the old programs. We have a lot of customers that do not use it today, especially in institutional because it's relatively new that the cost barrier is not the barrier anymore. So for most of our customers as well. We have millions of customers out there that can use it. That's why Ecolab Digital is a great story, very early in that development.
Christophe Beck: 100% of them need to be connected. The third element is 100% of the time where people pay for it. So 100% of the units, 100% of the applications, 100% billable offering. This is the way we think about it. That's why when I think about the $400 million we have today, we have just scratched the surface of what we can do. We still have a lot of customers using those technologies that do not pay because they're still on the old programs. We have a lot of customers that do not use it today, especially in institutional because it's relatively new that the cost barrier is not the barrier anymore. So for most of our customers as well. We have millions of customers out there that can use it. That's why Ecolab Digital is a great story, very early in that development.
Speaker #11: 100% of the units, or 100% of the 100% applications billable offering. This is the way we think about it. And that's why, when I think about the $400 million we have today, we have just scratched the surface.
Speaker #11: Of what we can do, we still have a lot of customers using those technologies that do not pay because they're still on the old programs.
Speaker #11: And we have a lot of customers that do not use it. Today, especially in institutional, because it's relatively new, the cost barrier is not the barrier anymore.
Speaker #11: So for most of our customers as well. And we have millions of customers out there that can use it. That's why Ecolab Digital is a great story.
Speaker #11: We're very early in that development, and I think it's going to become one of the biggest growth drivers of our company going forward by driving customer benefits. Ultimately, our promise is to help them reduce their total operating cost.
Christophe Beck: I think it's going to become one of the biggest growth drivers of our company going forward by driving customer benefits, ultimately, because our promise is to have them reduce their total operating cost. That's the TVD that we've always promised to our customers.
Christophe Beck: I think it's going to become one of the biggest growth drivers of our company going forward by driving customer benefits, ultimately, because our promise is to have them reduce their total operating cost. That's the TVD that we've always promised to our customers.
Speaker #11: That's the TBD that we've always promised to our
Speaker #11: customers. The next
Christophe Beck: The next question is from the line of David Begleiter with Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: The next question is from the line of David Begleiter with Deutsche Bank. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #2: Question is from the line of David Begleiter with Deutsche Bank. Please just use your
Speaker #12: Thank you. Question—Christophe, back to basic industries and paper. Is your confidence in a backend recovery just because of easier comps, or are you seeing some underlying improvement in these end markets as we progress through the quarter?
John McNulty: Thank you. Christophe, back to basic industries and paper. Is your confidence in a back-end recovery just because of easier comps, or are you seeing some underlying improvement in these end markets as we progress through the quarter? Thank you.
David Begleiter: Thank you. Christophe, back to basic industries and paper. Is your confidence in a back-end recovery just because of easier comps, or are you seeing some underlying improvement in these end markets as we progress through the quarter? Thank you.
Speaker #12: Thank
Speaker #11: Thanks, David. It's a combination of both. That industry—so, the paper and packaging industry—has had a dual challenge. On one hand, demand was pretty low.
Christophe Beck: Thanks, David. It's a combination of both. That industry, so the paper and packaging industry, has had a dual challenge. On one hand, okay, a demand that was pretty low. And at the same time, related to it, consolidation of the industry. So consolidation means that they were closing paper mills. And a paper mill for us is a big chunk. So it can be up to $10 or 15 million of sales in one location. Well, if it happens that that location gets closed, okay, there's not much you can do because you're not going to sell much to that location anymore. So we had to go through that the last 12 to 24 months. And that seems to be behind us. We haven't seen, in our environment, mill closures in the last few months, which obviously is good news for us as we enter 2026.
Christophe Beck: Thanks, David. It's a combination of both. That industry, so the paper and packaging industry, has had a dual challenge. On one hand, okay, a demand that was pretty low. And at the same time, related to it, consolidation of the industry. So consolidation means that they were closing paper mills. And a paper mill for us is a big chunk. So it can be up to $10 or 15 million of sales in one location. Well, if it happens that that location gets closed, okay, there's not much you can do because you're not going to sell much to that location anymore. So we had to go through that the last 12 to 24 months. And that seems to be behind us. We haven't seen, in our environment, mill closures in the last few months, which obviously is good news for us as we enter 2026.
Speaker #11: And at the same time, related to it, consolidation of the industry. So, consolidation means that they were closing paper mills, and a paper mill for us is a big chunk.
Speaker #11: So it can be up to $10 or $15 million of sales in one location. Well, if it happens that that location gets closed, okay, there's not much you can do.
Speaker #11: Because you're not going to sell much to that location anymore. So, we had to go through that the last 12 to 24 months, and that seems to be behind us.
Speaker #11: We haven't seen in our environment mill closures in the last few months, which obviously is good news for us as we enter 2026.
Speaker #11: New business is good in that business as well. Innovation is strong as well at the same time. And the margin of that business was what?
Christophe Beck: New business is good in that business as well. Innovation is strong as well at the same time. The margin of that business was, what, 13% last year? So it's not Ecolab average, but it's still okay, if I may say. So the combination of both, kind of recovering progressively and pretty good margins even in a down environment in 2025 makes me a bit more optimistic for 2026. But I'm not even close to declaring victory on this one. Same for basic industries, different industries, obviously, but similar model as well. So we're dealing with it, making sure we make money in all of those businesses. We keep gaining share as well. As those industries recover, that's going to help us as well over the next few quarters.
Christophe Beck: New business is good in that business as well. Innovation is strong as well at the same time. The margin of that business was, what, 13% last year? So it's not Ecolab average, but it's still okay, if I may say. So the combination of both, kind of recovering progressively and pretty good margins even in a down environment in 2025 makes me a bit more optimistic for 2026. But I'm not even close to declaring victory on this one. Same for basic industries, different industries, obviously, but similar model as well. So we're dealing with it, making sure we make money in all of those businesses. We keep gaining share as well. As those industries recover, that's going to help us as well over the next few quarters.
Speaker #11: 13% last year. So it's not the Ecolab average, but it's still okay, if I may say. So, the combination of both kind of recovering progressively and pretty good margins, even in a down environment in 2025, makes me a bit more optimistic for 2026.
Speaker #11: But I'm not even close to declaring victory on this one. The same for basic industries—different industries, obviously, but a similar model as well. So we're dealing with it, making sure we make money in all of those businesses.
Speaker #11: We keep gaining share as well. And as those industries recover, that's going to help us as well over the next few quarters.
Speaker #2: The next question is from the line of Shlomo Rosenblum with Stifel. Please just use your question.
Christophe Beck: The next question is from the line of Shlomo Rosenbaum with Stifel. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: The next question is from the line of Shlomo Rosenbaum with Stifel. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #13: Hi. Thank you very much. Quick question—Christophe, if you normalize for that distributor inventory reduction, again, just looking at it in a normalized way, what's going on with the volumes?
Manav Patnaik: Hi. Thank you very much. Quick questions. Christophe, if you normalize for that distributor inventory reductions, again, just looking at a normalized way, what's going on with the volumes? Are the volumes actually going up? If you didn't have that surprise, are the volumes going up, or are you still kind of at a flattest trajectory? And then it's just a technical question I want to ask afterwards. On slide 13, on the top left, it talks about Water's organic operating income growth is expected to something in Q1 2026. And it's blank or there's a word missing. Is that expected to go up, go down, be flat? If someone could just answer that. Thank you.
Shlomo Rosenbaum: Hi. Thank you very much. Quick questions. Christophe, if you normalize for that distributor inventory reductions, again, just looking at a normalized way, what's going on with the volumes? Are the volumes actually going up? If you didn't have that surprise, are the volumes going up, or are you still kind of at a flattest trajectory? And then it's just a technical question I want to ask afterwards. On slide 13, on the top left, it talks about Water's organic operating income growth is expected to something in Q1 2026. And it's blank or there's a word missing. Is that expected to go up, go down, be flat? If someone could just answer that. Thank you.
Speaker #13: Are the volumes actually going up? If you didn't have that surprise, are the volumes going up, or are you still kind of at a flattish trajectory?
Speaker #13: And then it's just a technical question I want to ask afterwards. On slide 13, on the top left, it talks about Waters, organic operating income growth is expected to something in the first quarter of 2026.
Speaker #13: And it's blank, or there's a word missing. Is that expected to go up, go down, or be flat? If someone could just answer that. Thank you.
Speaker #13: you. So thank
Christophe Beck: So thank you, Shlomo. So a few questions, obviously, that you have in there. INS, institutional and specialty, basically nothing changed from a demand perspective. And if you normalize, it was 4% organics for INS and 3% for the institutional division and 7% for specialty. So generally, nothing to see in INS. In a market that's a difficult market, as you've probably noticed, so the restaurant, the hospitality industry is not doing great right now, but we're gaining a lot of share, which is really good. Maybe a comment on this distributor inventory. Why did they go down? And that's not under our control. It's obviously our customers deciding that. Well, the better we become in our supply chain service, the more reliable, the more accurate we become, well, the less inventory they need to carry from our products. We've seen that in the past a few times already.
Christophe Beck: So thank you, Shlomo. So a few questions, obviously, that you have in there. INS, institutional and specialty, basically nothing changed from a demand perspective. And if you normalize, it was 4% organics for INS and 3% for the institutional division and 7% for specialty. So generally, nothing to see in INS. In a market that's a difficult market, as you've probably noticed, so the restaurant, the hospitality industry is not doing great right now, but we're gaining a lot of share, which is really good. Maybe a comment on this distributor inventory. Why did they go down? And that's not under our control. It's obviously our customers deciding that. Well, the better we become in our supply chain service, the more reliable, the more accurate we become, well, the less inventory they need to carry from our products. We've seen that in the past a few times already.
Speaker #11: You, Shlomo. So, a few questions obviously that you have in there. IMS, Institutional and Specialty—basically nothing changed from a demand perspective. And if you normalize, it was 4% organic for IMS, 3% for the Institutional division, and 7% for Specialty.
Speaker #11: So generally, nothing to see. In IMS, in a market that's a difficult market, as you've probably noticed. So the restaurant and hospitality industry is not doing great.
Speaker #11: Right now, we’re gaining a lot of share, which is really good. Maybe a comment on this distributor inventory—why did it go down?
Speaker #11: And that's not under our control in terms of our customers deciding that. Well, the better we become in our supply chain service, the more reliable, the more accurate we become.
Speaker #11: Well, the less inventory they need to carry from our products—we've seen that in the past a few times already. That happens mostly at the end of the year as well.
Christophe Beck: That happens mostly at the end of the year as well. Well, that's exactly what happened in the Q4. That takes a few weeks to happen. Then it takes a few weeks or a few months to normalize as well. But it's driven by two good things. On one hand, demand hasn't changed. On the other hand, the inventories went down because our service improved. Okay, we don't like the updates, but generally, it's a good thing as well. So going forward. And your question so on the water. So for the slide 13, I had no idea what slide 13 was, to be honest. So I'm glad I have some help here. I think that the word was missing. And what I'm seeing here, it should have said expected to accelerate. I hope it helps.
Christophe Beck: That happens mostly at the end of the year as well. Well, that's exactly what happened in the Q4. That takes a few weeks to happen. Then it takes a few weeks or a few months to normalize as well. But it's driven by two good things. On one hand, demand hasn't changed. On the other hand, the inventories went down because our service improved. Okay, we don't like the updates, but generally, it's a good thing as well. So going forward. And your question so on the water. So for the slide 13, I had no idea what slide 13 was, to be honest. So I'm glad I have some help here. I think that the word was missing. And what I'm seeing here, it should have said expected to accelerate. I hope it helps.
Speaker #11: Well, that's exactly what happened. In the fourth quarter—and that takes a few weeks to happen. And then it takes a few weeks or a few months to normalize.
Speaker #11: As well, but it's driven by two good things. On one hand, demand hasn't changed. And on the other hand, inventories went down because our service improved again.
Speaker #11: We don't like the upticks, but generally, it's a good thing as well. So, going forward—and your question, so on the water, so for slide 13—I had no idea what slide 13 was, to be honest.
Speaker #11: So I'm glad I have some help. Here, I think that the word was missing. And what I'm seeing here, it should have said 'expected to accelerate.'
Speaker #11: I hope it helps.
Speaker #2: Thank you. The next question is from the line of Jeff Sikoskis with JP Morgan. Please use your question.
Christophe Beck: Thank you. The next question is from the line of Jeffrey Zekauskas with J.P. Morgan. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. The next question is from the line of Jeffrey Zekauskas with J.P. Morgan. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #12: Thanks very much. I have a couple of questions about AVEVO. Is AVEVO roughly $500 million in sales, maybe growing to $550 million? And is the EBIT, I don't know, $75 million?
Ashish Sabadra: Thanks very much. I have a couple of questions about AVIVO. Is AVIVO roughly $500 million in sales, maybe growing to 550? And is the EBIT, I don't know, $75 million, the EBITDA $100 million? Can you give us an idea about that? And AVIVO is a combination, I think, of sale of equipment and consumables. What's the balance between equipment sales and consumables? And in the fourth quarter, it seems that you excluded it. That is, you took out the interest costs that were connected with the acquisition and the revenues of AVIVO itself. Why did you treat it that way from an accounting standpoint? And what do you plan to do in the first quarter? Thank you.
Jeffrey Zekauskas: Thanks very much. I have a couple of questions about AVIVO. Is AVIVO roughly $500 million in sales, maybe growing to 550? And is the EBIT, I don't know, $75 million, the EBITDA $100 million? Can you give us an idea about that? And AVIVO is a combination, I think, of sale of equipment and consumables. What's the balance between equipment sales and consumables? And in the fourth quarter, it seems that you excluded it. That is, you took out the interest costs that were connected with the acquisition and the revenues of AVIVO itself. Why did you treat it that way from an accounting standpoint? And what do you plan to do in the first quarter? Thank you.
Speaker #12: The EBITDA—100? Can you give us an idea about that? And AVEVO is a combination, I think, of sale of equipment and consumables. What's the balance between equipment sales and consumables?
Speaker #12: And in the fourth quarter, it seems that you excluded it. That is, you took out the interest costs that were connected with the acquisition and the revenues of AVEVO itself.
Speaker #12: Why did you treat it that way from an accounting standpoint? And what do you plan to do in the first quarter? Thank you.
Speaker #11: Thank you, Jeff. So I've stopped—look at me, because I'm not the accountant here in the group there. So he's going to take that question of the December accounting, and I'll cover your other questions after that.
Christophe Beck: Thank you, Jeff. So I've stopped looking at me because I'm not the accountant here in the group there. So he's going to take that question of the December accounting. And I'll cover your other questions after that.
Christophe Beck: Thank you, Jeff. So I've stopped looking at me because I'm not the accountant here in the group there. So he's going to take that question of the December accounting. And I'll cover your other questions after that.
Speaker #12: Yeah, thanks, Jeff. So, as you know, AVEVO closed a bit earlier than we expected, and wanted to show the Q4—really show the underlying business without the transaction noise—which was very consistent with how we handled both the PureLight and NALCO acquisitions.
John McNulty: Yeah. Thanks, Jeff. So as you know, Ovivo closed a bit earlier than we expected and wanted to show the Q4, really show the underlying business without the transaction noise, which was very consistent of how we handled both the Purolite and Nalco acquisitions. So if you look at it, because in Q4, the deal closed in the middle of December. In Q4, we had like a half a month of interest expense, but very minimal sales and a live benefit just given the timing of close and mixed to the business geographically. So it would have been very noisy and was not part of our guidance that we had for Q4. And again, it's consistent with how we treated Purolite and Nalco. Thank you.
Scott Kirkland: Yeah. Thanks, Jeff. So as you know, Ovivo closed a bit earlier than we expected and wanted to show the Q4, really show the underlying business without the transaction noise, which was very consistent of how we handled both the Purolite and Nalco acquisitions. So if you look at it, because in Q4, the deal closed in the middle of December. In Q4, we had like a half a month of interest expense, but very minimal sales and a live benefit just given the timing of close and mixed to the business geographically. So it would have been very noisy and was not part of our guidance that we had for Q4. And again, it's consistent with how we treated Purolite and Nalco. Thank you.
Speaker #12: So if you look at it, because in Q4, the deal closed in the middle of December, in Q4 we had like a half a month of interest expense.
Speaker #12: But very minimal sales on a live benefit, just given the timing of close and mix of the business geographically. So it would have been very noisy and was not part of our guidance that we had for Q4.
Speaker #12: And again, it's consistent with how we treated PureLight and—
Speaker #12: NALCO. Thank you. The
Christophe Beck: That's the first part of the question. So I hope it answered your question, Jeff. And so now on Ovivo as a business, it's roughly $0.5 billion. Yes, it's a bit less than that. And it's growing double-digit. The way it looks for Q1 is double-digit growth as well. I've been very pleased with the new business in that field. It's focused 99% on fabs, as you know. And we've closed a few very interesting deals in Singapore and in the US. It's very few customers, as we know, that are producing some microelectronic chips. But those are very big every single time. There's no one that can do what Ovivo can do. And there's no one that can do what together we can do, which is this circular approach of using and recycling ultra-pure water.
Christophe Beck: That's the first part of the question. So I hope it answered your question, Jeff. And so now on Ovivo as a business, it's roughly $0.5 billion. Yes, it's a bit less than that. And it's growing double-digit. The way it looks for Q1 is double-digit growth as well. I've been very pleased with the new business in that field. It's focused 99% on fabs, as you know. And we've closed a few very interesting deals in Singapore and in the US. It's very few customers, as we know, that are producing some microelectronic chips. But those are very big every single time. There's no one that can do what Ovivo can do. And there's no one that can do what together we can do, which is this circular approach of using and recycling ultra-pure water.
Speaker #11: First part of the question. So I hope it answered your question, Jeff. And so now, on AVEVO, as a business, it's roughly half a billion.
Speaker #11: Yes, it's a bit less. Than that. And it's growing double digit. The way it looks for the first quarter is double digit growth. As well, I've been very pleased with the new business.
Speaker #11: In that, in that field, it's focused 99% on fabs, as you know, and we've closed a few very interesting deals in Singapore and in the U.S.
Speaker #11: It's very few customers, as we know, that are producing, so microelectronic chips. But those are time. There's no one that can do what AVEVO can do.
Speaker #11: And there's no one that can do what together we can do, which is the circular approach of using and recycling ultra-pure water. Ninety-five percent of the water does not get recycled in microelectronics today.
Christophe Beck: 95% of the water does not get recycled in microelectronics today, which is a major issue. Our ambition, it's to get north of 80% recycled. So from 5% to 80% or in some cases, even 100% of reuse. Now to your question on equipment and consumables, Ovivo as such is mostly technology and much less consumable. What's important to us is the combination of Ecolab and Ovivo, which then becomes very much like an Ecolab business where it's mostly consumables and technology as a secondary growth driver. That's why we really like it. It was a technology that was really hard to develop. No one is even coming close to them, Jeff. We could have developed it ourselves. It would have taken years. The second issue is to get the credibility with those microelectronics manufacturers.
Christophe Beck: 95% of the water does not get recycled in microelectronics today, which is a major issue. Our ambition, it's to get north of 80% recycled. So from 5% to 80% or in some cases, even 100% of reuse. Now to your question on equipment and consumables, Ovivo as such is mostly technology and much less consumable. What's important to us is the combination of Ecolab and Ovivo, which then becomes very much like an Ecolab business where it's mostly consumables and technology as a secondary growth driver. That's why we really like it. It was a technology that was really hard to develop. No one is even coming close to them, Jeff. We could have developed it ourselves. It would have taken years. The second issue is to get the credibility with those microelectronics manufacturers.
Speaker #11: Which is a major issue. Our ambition is to get north of 80% recycled—so from 5% to 80%, or in some cases, even 100%.
Speaker #11: Of reuse. Now to your question on equipment and consumables. AVEVO, as such, is mostly technology and much less consumable. What's important to us is the Ecolab and AVEVO, which then becomes very much like an Ecolab business, where it's mostly consumables and technology as a secondary growth driver.
Speaker #11: That's why we really like it. It was a technology that was really hard to develop. No one is even coming close to them, Jeff.
Speaker #11: We could have developed it ourselves. It would have taken years. The second issue is to get the credibility with those microelectronics manufacturers. They're very few.
Christophe Beck: are very few, and they're not exactly risk-takers for technologies that are absolutely critical to the chip manufacturing. That would have been a second hurdle for us as well. Everything is happening as we speak as well at the same time. So a great business coming with what we have done for a very long time in terms of water management. Well, it's a typical one plus one equals three. I think that for our fabs business, it's going to be game-changing.
Christophe Beck: are very few, and they're not exactly risk-takers for technologies that are absolutely critical to the chip manufacturing. That would have been a second hurdle for us as well. Everything is happening as we speak as well at the same time. So a great business coming with what we have done for a very long time in terms of water management. Well, it's a typical one plus one equals three. I think that for our fabs business, it's going to be game-changing.
Speaker #11: And they're not exactly risk takers for technologies that are absolutely critical to chip manufacturing. That would have been a second hurdle for us as well.
Speaker #11: And everything is happening as we speak, as well, at the same time. So, a great business coming with what we have done for a very long time in terms of water management.
Speaker #11: Well, it's a typical one plus one equals three. I think that for our fabs business, it's going to be game.
Speaker #2: Thank you. The next question is from the line of Master Deo with Bank of America. Please use your
Christophe Beck: Thank you. The next question is from the line of Matthew DeYoe with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. The next question is from the line of Matthew DeYoe with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #2: question. Yeah.
Speaker #12: Thanks for taking the call. My question: So I think you're done with year one of One Ecolab that you'd rolled out to the three largest customers.
Matthew DeYoe: Yeah. Thanks, David McCaugh. My question. So I think you're done with year 1 of One Ecolab that you'd rolled out to the 3 largest customers. What's the feedback and any wins, learnings you can take as you deploy this to, I think it's the top 25 customers in 2026, so an incremental 20 or so adds? And when do we see this as more of a top-line driver? What kind of rollout do you ultimately need? Because it did feel like you have a pretty considerable amount of sales opportunity just with that top 35 based on the kind of conversations we've had over time.
Matthew DeYoe: Yeah. Thanks, David McCaugh. My question. So I think you're done with year 1 of One Ecolab that you'd rolled out to the 3 largest customers. What's the feedback and any wins, learnings you can take as you deploy this to, I think it's the top 25 customers in 2026, so an incremental 20 or so adds? And when do we see this as more of a top-line driver? What kind of rollout do you ultimately need? Because it did feel like you have a pretty considerable amount of sales opportunity just with that top 35 based on the kind of conversations we've had over time.
Speaker #12: What's the feedback in any wins, learnings you can take as you deploy this to—I think it's the top 25 customers in 2026, so an incremental 20.
Speaker #12: So, ads. And when do we see this as more of a top-line driver? What kind of rollout do you ultimately need? Because it did feel like you have a pretty considerable amount of sales opportunity just with that top 35, based on the kind of conversations we've had over—
Speaker #12: time. Yeah.
Christophe Beck: Yeah. So it's 35 customers. So it's our top 20 largest customers in the world and what we call our emerging 15. So those are not the biggest, but the ones having the potential to become some of our biggest, microelectronics being a perfect example of one of those 15. So you get to 35. That could drive $3.5 billion of share increase potential. That's why we focus on those ones first and foremost. It's simpler because it's fewer customers, and it's the biggest potential, the $3.5 billion, in many locations around the world. So we've gotten organized behind those 35 customers, which are the biggest brands, obviously, that you know in all industries as well at the same time. So that organization component has been done.
Christophe Beck: Yeah. So it's 35 customers. So it's our top 20 largest customers in the world and what we call our emerging 15. So those are not the biggest, but the ones having the potential to become some of our biggest, microelectronics being a perfect example of one of those 15. So you get to 35. That could drive $3.5 billion of share increase potential. That's why we focus on those ones first and foremost. It's simpler because it's fewer customers, and it's the biggest potential, the $3.5 billion, in many locations around the world. So we've gotten organized behind those 35 customers, which are the biggest brands, obviously, that you know in all industries as well at the same time. So that organization component has been done.
Speaker #11: So it's 35 customers. So it's our top 20 largest customers in the world, and what we call our Emerging 15. So those are not the biggest, but the ones having the potential to become some of our biggest—Microelectronics being a perfect example of one of those 15.
Speaker #11: So you get to 35. That could drive $3.5 billion of share increase potential. That's why we focus on those ones first and foremost.
Speaker #11: It's simpler because it's fewer customers, and it's the biggest potential. The $3.5 billion in many locations around the world. So we've gotten organized.
Speaker #11: Behind those 35 customers—which are the biggest brands, obviously, that you know in all industries as well at the same time—so that organization component has been done.
Speaker #11: The growth of those 35, as mentioned before. So it's 2%. It's points higher than the rest of the companies. So facts are demonstrating that it's working.
Christophe Beck: The growth of those 35, as mentioned before, so it's 2 percentage points higher than the rest of the company. Facts are demonstrating that it's working. It's probably the second biggest moat that we have as a company, our first being our team serving our customers everywhere around the world, is delivering best-in-class performance. Basically, we help each of those customers understand what's the best-in-class performance within their own company. If it's a restaurant, what's the best guest satisfaction? What's the best cost performance? What's the best environmental impact? If it's a data center, it's uptime, cost, and impact. You get the system here. We help them drive the performance of all the units towards the best-in-class performing unit within their company. We do the same across the industry, not sharing the names, obviously, to help our customers understand how far away from best-in-class performance.
Christophe Beck: The growth of those 35, as mentioned before, so it's 2 percentage points higher than the rest of the company. Facts are demonstrating that it's working. It's probably the second biggest moat that we have as a company, our first being our team serving our customers everywhere around the world, is delivering best-in-class performance. Basically, we help each of those customers understand what's the best-in-class performance within their own company. If it's a restaurant, what's the best guest satisfaction? What's the best cost performance? What's the best environmental impact? If it's a data center, it's uptime, cost, and impact. You get the system here. We help them drive the performance of all the units towards the best-in-class performing unit within their company. We do the same across the industry, not sharing the names, obviously, to help our customers understand how far away from best-in-class performance.
Speaker #11: And it's probably the second biggest moat that we have as a company, our first being our team. Serving our customers everywhere around the world is delivering best-in-class performance.
Speaker #11: Basically, we help each of those customers understand what's the best in class performance within their own company. If it's a restaurant, what's the best guest satisfaction?
Speaker #11: What's the best cost performance? What's the best environmental impact? If it's a data center, it's uptime, cost, and impact. You get the system here.
Speaker #11: And we help them drive the performance of all the units toward the best-in-class performing unit within their company. And we do the same across the industry.
Speaker #11: We're not sharing the names, obviously, but this helps our customers understand how far they are from best-in-class performance. This was developed based on an idea from a few of our customers a few years back.
Christophe Beck: So it's been developed based on an idea from a few of our customers, a few years back. And those customers are ultimately asking even more than what we can deliver today, which is kind of a good problem to have because our customers, I would say, are ahead of us in terms of what they would like to see from us and what we can deliver. Well, that's a good problem to have. And that's where we are.
Christophe Beck: So it's been developed based on an idea from a few of our customers, a few years back. And those customers are ultimately asking even more than what we can deliver today, which is kind of a good problem to have because our customers, I would say, are ahead of us in terms of what they would like to see from us and what we can deliver. Well, that's a good problem to have. And that's where we are.
Speaker #11: And those customers are ultimately asking even more than what we can deliver today, which is kind of a good problem to have. Because our customers, I would say, are ahead of us in terms of what they would like to see from us and what we can deliver.
Speaker #11: Well, that's a good problem to have. And that's where we are.
Speaker #2: Our next question is from the line of Mike Harrison with Seaport Research. Please proceed with your question.
Christophe Beck: Our next question is from the line of Mike Harrison with Seaport Research. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Our next question is from the line of Mike Harrison with Seaport Research. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #13: Hi. Good
Scott Kirkland: Hi. Good afternoon. Christophe, you mentioned the IQ suite. I was wondering if you could talk about what penetration looks like today versus where you think penetration could go over the next, say, 2 to 3 years. Just curious, are you 5% or 10% of the way to where you hope to be or more like 30%, 40%, 50%? And I guess as we think about growth in the IQ suite, where would we expect that to show up? Does it show up in digital sales? Does it show up in institutional volume growth? Or does it show up in margin expansion or all three?
Michael Harrison: Hi. Good afternoon. Christophe, you mentioned the IQ suite. I was wondering if you could talk about what penetration looks like today versus where you think penetration could go over the next, say, 2 to 3 years. Just curious, are you 5% or 10% of the way to where you hope to be or more like 30%, 40%, 50%? And I guess as we think about growth in the IQ suite, where would we expect that to show up? Does it show up in digital sales? Does it show up in institutional volume growth? Or does it show up in margin expansion or all three?
Speaker #11: Hi, Mike.
Speaker #13: Christoph, you mentioned the IQ Suite. I was wondering if you could talk about what penetration looks like today versus where you think penetration could go over the next, say, two to three years.
Speaker #13: Just curious, are you 5% or 10% of the way to where you hope to be, or more like 30%, 40%, 50%? And I guess as we think about growth in the IQ, should we expect that to show up?
Speaker #13: Suite, where would we? Does it show up in digital sales? Does it show up in institutional volume growth? Or does it show up in margin expansion, or all three?
Speaker #13: Suite, where would we—does it show up in digital sales? Does it show up in institutional volume growth? Or does it show up in margin expansion, or all three?
Speaker #11: The short answer is all three. Mike, so first, your question—penetration. It's in the low single digits today, so we're very early here. As mentioned, often this is something we did not exactly do in our institutional experience.
Christophe Beck: The short answer is all three. Mike, so first two questions, penetration, it's in the low single digit today. So we're very early here. As mentioned, often, this is something we did not exactly do in our institutional markets because it was too expensive for our customers to embrace that technology. Things have changed dramatically in the last two years. And we have the knowledge and expertise from our water industrial businesses. So we kind of are very well positioned for that. So very early on that journey. Second question, where it comes from, in our reporting segments are our traditional four reported segments that we have, the digital sales that we mentioning are the digital sales of those four segments. So they included in the four segments, which is the way so we've presented it the last 12 or 13 months that we're doing that.
Christophe Beck: The short answer is all three. Mike, so first two questions, penetration, it's in the low single digit today. So we're very early here. As mentioned, often, this is something we did not exactly do in our institutional markets because it was too expensive for our customers to embrace that technology. Things have changed dramatically in the last two years. And we have the knowledge and expertise from our water industrial businesses. So we kind of are very well positioned for that. So very early on that journey. Second question, where it comes from, in our reporting segments are our traditional four reported segments that we have, the digital sales that we mentioning are the digital sales of those four segments. So they included in the four segments, which is the way so we've presented it the last 12 or 13 months that we're doing that.
Speaker #11: For our customers to embrace that technology things have changed dramatically. In the last two years. And we have the knowledge and expertise from our water industrial businesses.
Speaker #11: So we kind of very well positioned for that. So very early on that journey. Second question. Where it comes. Well, our reporting segments are our traditional four reported segments.
Speaker #11: That we have the digital sales that we mentioning. All the digital sales of those four segments. So they included in the four segments which is the way.
Speaker #11: So we've presented it. The last 12 or 13 months that we're doing that. And last but not margin, because digital sales have way higher margins, because there's no real cost or hardware cost.
Christophe Beck: Last but not least, yes, it improves the margin because digital sales have way higher margins because there's no real cost or hardware cost related to it on the software side. On the hardware side, it's a little bit different, but it's much higher than the average gross margin we have in the company. So it's all three.
Christophe Beck: Last but not least, yes, it improves the margin because digital sales have way higher margins because there's no real cost or hardware cost related to it on the software side. On the hardware side, it's a little bit different, but it's much higher than the average gross margin we have in the company. So it's all three.
Speaker #11: Related to it on the software side. On the hardware side, it's a little bit different. But it's much higher than the average gross margin we have in the company.
Speaker #11: So it's all three.
Speaker #2: Our next question comes from the line of Lawrence Alexander, with Jefferies. Please receive your question.
Christophe Beck: Our next question comes from the line of Laurence Alexander with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Laurence Alexander with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #13: So good afternoon. I just wanted to flesh out a little bit how you're thinking has evolving around the interplay between your M&A targets and your margin targets.
Scott Kirkland: Good afternoon. I just wanted to flesh out a little bit how your thinking is evolving around the interplay between your M&A targets and your margin targets. The 20% margin has been kind of an elusive one over the years, and kind of now it's within reach. You hinted earlier. You may be thinking about moving it higher sooner rather than later. What type of M&A would you consider that would structurally push back the margin target a few years? Or do you see that as, given the types of things you look at, just sort of structurally unnecessary?
Laurence Alexander: Good afternoon. I just wanted to flesh out a little bit how your thinking is evolving around the interplay between your M&A targets and your margin targets. The 20% margin has been kind of an elusive one over the years, and kind of now it's within reach. You hinted earlier. You may be thinking about moving it higher sooner rather than later. What type of M&A would you consider that would structurally push back the margin target a few years? Or do you see that as, given the types of things you look at, just sort of structurally unnecessary?
Speaker #13: The 20% margin has been kind of an elusive one over the years, and now it's kind of within reach. You hinted earlier you may be thinking about moving it higher, sooner rather than later.
Speaker #13: Would you—what type of M&A would you consider that would structurally push back the margin target a few years? Or do you see that as, given the types of things you look at, just sort of structurally unnecessary?
Speaker #11: So just to be clear here, we're not trying to push back any margin target. Twenty percent by 2027. That remains the same. We had eighteen percent last year.
Christophe Beck: So just to be clear here, we're not trying to push back any margin target, 20% by 2027. That remains the same. We had 18% last year. We'll get north of 19% in 2026, and we'll get to 20% in 2027. And then we'll keep growing, so 100 to 150 basis points as we shared as well on investor day. And M&A needs to help getting there. We will never do an M&A deal that's destroying value for shareholders. So return on investment needs to be at the right level. It needs to be growth and margin accretive. Those are the plans. Afterwards, whether everything happens as planned, well, that's an execution question, obviously. But we are very disciplined in how we do M&A. We will never do something that's destroying value because what we say inside the company, that's buying work, and it's dumb for shareholders.
Christophe Beck: So just to be clear here, we're not trying to push back any margin target, 20% by 2027. That remains the same. We had 18% last year. We'll get north of 19% in 2026, and we'll get to 20% in 2027. And then we'll keep growing, so 100 to 150 basis points as we shared as well on investor day. And M&A needs to help getting there. We will never do an M&A deal that's destroying value for shareholders. So return on investment needs to be at the right level. It needs to be growth and margin accretive. Those are the plans. Afterwards, whether everything happens as planned, well, that's an execution question, obviously. But we are very disciplined in how we do M&A. We will never do something that's destroying value because what we say inside the company, that's buying work, and it's dumb for shareholders.
Speaker #11: We get north of 19% in 2026, and we'll get to 20% in '27. And then we'll keep growing, so 100 to 150 basis points as we shared.
Speaker #11: As well, on Investor Day. And M&A needs to help get there. We will never do an M&A deal that's destroying value for shareholders. So return on investment needs to be at the right level.
Speaker #11: It needs to be growth and margin accretive. Those are the plans. Afterwards, whether everything happens as planned, well, that's an execution question. Obviously, but we are very disciplined in how we do M&A.
Speaker #11: We will never do something that's destroying value, because what we say inside the company, that's buying work. And it's done for shareholders. Well, those are two reasons for not doing that.
Christophe Beck: Well, those are two reasons for not doing that, at least not consciously. And we've done 100 deals the last 10 years. We have a lot of practice. We've learned a lot, and we're very successful in how we do M&A in general. So no change for the margin targets.
Christophe Beck: Well, those are two reasons for not doing that, at least not consciously. And we've done 100 deals the last 10 years. We have a lot of practice. We've learned a lot, and we're very successful in how we do M&A in general. So no change for the margin targets.
Speaker #11: At least not consciously. And we've done 100 deals in the last 10 years. We have a lot of practice. We've learned a lot. And we're very successful in how we do M&A in general.
Speaker #11: So, no change for the margin targets.
Speaker #2: Our next question is from the line of John Roberts with Mizuho Securities. Please proceed with your question.
Christophe Beck: Our next question is from the line of John Roberts with Mizuho Securities. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Our next question is from the line of John Roberts with Mizuho Securities. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #12: Thank you. Hi, this is Edwin Wadwigas for John. I'm a Christoph. Just one quick one on the 2026 guide. Can you talk about the factors that could drive the higher end or lower end of that range?
Kevin McCarthy: Thank you. Hi. This is Edlain Rodriguez for John. Christophe, just one quick one on the 2026 guide. Can you talk about the factors that could drive the higher end or lower end of that range? What are the swing factors in there?
Edlain Rodriguez: Thank you. Hi. This is Edlain Rodriguez for John. Christophe, just one quick one on the 2026 guide. Can you talk about the factors that could drive the higher end or lower end of that range? What are the swing factors in there?
Speaker #12: What are the swing factors in there?
Speaker #11: I guess all the things that we don't know are going to happen. If we look at the last five years, there was not one year that happened as planned.
Christophe Beck: I guess all the things that we don't know are going to happen. If we look at the last 5 years, there was not 1 year that happened as planned, not because of us, but because of what's happening around us, around the world. So we have this range of the 12% to 15%. The fact that we are very agile as a company on how we run our businesses, how we manage value price, how we drive surcharges if we need, getting as well more performance out of One Ecolab, as we discussed before as well. We have a great supply chain and procurement team as well doing unbelievable work in whatever conditions out there. So the big questions are the things I don't know, but I know that the team knows how to deal with them.
Christophe Beck: I guess all the things that we don't know are going to happen. If we look at the last 5 years, there was not 1 year that happened as planned, not because of us, but because of what's happening around us, around the world. So we have this range of the 12% to 15%. The fact that we are very agile as a company on how we run our businesses, how we manage value price, how we drive surcharges if we need, getting as well more performance out of One Ecolab, as we discussed before as well. We have a great supply chain and procurement team as well doing unbelievable work in whatever conditions out there. So the big questions are the things I don't know, but I know that the team knows how to deal with them.
Speaker #11: Not because of us, but because of what's happening—around us, around the world. So we have this range of 12% to 15%.
Speaker #11: The fact that we are very agile as a company on how we run our businesses, how we manage value price, how we drive surcharges if we need, getting as well more performance out of One Ecolab, as we've discussed before as well.
Speaker #11: We have a great supply chain and procurement team as well, doing unbelievable work in whatever conditions out there. So the big questions are the things I don't know.
Speaker #11: But I know that the team knows how to deal with them. With everything we know now, I feel that the year is very well balanced.
Christophe Beck: With everything we know now, I feel that the year is very well balanced, and I feel really good about the 12 to 15.
Christophe Beck: With everything we know now, I feel that the year is very well balanced, and I feel really good about the 12 to 15.
Speaker #11: And I feel really good about the 12 to 15.
Speaker #2: Our next question is from the line of Jason Haas with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.
Christophe Beck: Our next question is from the line of Jason Hass with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Our next question is from the line of Jason Hass with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #2: question. Hey, good afternoon.
Matthew DeYoe: Hey, good afternoon, and thanks for taking my question. I'm curious if you could talk about the cadence of the contribution from pricing as we go through 2026. The reason I ask is because I believe you put in a tower of surcharge that went into effect the second half of 2025. I'm curious if there's a go-over effect where you'll have more contribution from price in the first half of 2026 and then less in the second half. Is that the right way to think about it?
Jason Haas: Hey, good afternoon, and thanks for taking my question. I'm curious if you could talk about the cadence of the contribution from pricing as we go through 2026. The reason I ask is because I believe you put in a tower of surcharge that went into effect the second half of 2025. I'm curious if there's a go-over effect where you'll have more contribution from price in the first half of 2026 and then less in the second half. Is that the right way to think about it?
Speaker #13: And thanks for taking my question. I'm curious if you could talk about—hey, I'm curious if you could talk about the cadence of the contribution from pricing as we go through 2026.
Speaker #13: And the reason I ask is because I believe you put in a tariff surcharge that went into effect the second half of 2025. So I'm curious if there's a go over effect where you'll have more contribution from price in the first half of 2026 and then less in the second half.
Speaker #13: Right way to think about is that the
Speaker #13: It? Well, the key point is
Christophe Beck: Well, the key point is also that surcharge, which was a trade surcharge; we had an energy surcharge in 2021 or 2022. I'm losing track of the year. We convert all that into structural pricing, and everything has been done as well as we speak. That's why, on one hand, whatever happened on tariffs with the Supreme Court, I'm not worried about that. And on the other hand, well, it's going to drive these 2% to 3% price in 2026 pretty consistently. So for the quarters to come, that's obviously assuming that nothing else happens in 2026, but that's not at the heart of your question here.
Christophe Beck: Well, the key point is also that surcharge, which was a trade surcharge; we had an energy surcharge in 2021 or 2022. I'm losing track of the year. We convert all that into structural pricing, and everything has been done as well as we speak. That's why, on one hand, whatever happened on tariffs with the Supreme Court, I'm not worried about that. And on the other hand, well, it's going to drive these 2% to 3% price in 2026 pretty consistently. So for the quarters to come, that's obviously assuming that nothing else happens in 2026, but that's not at the heart of your question here.
Speaker #11: Also, that surcharge, which was a trade surcharge. We had an energy surcharge in '21 or '22—I'm losing track of the year. We convert all that into structural pricing.
Speaker #11: And, well, so as we speak, that's why, on the one hand, whatever happened on tariffs, with the Supreme Court, I'm not worried about that.
Speaker #11: And on the other hand, well, it's going to drive these 2% to 3% price increases in 2026, pretty consistently. So for the quarters to come, that's obviously assuming that nothing else happens.
Speaker #11: In 2026. But that's not at the heart of your question here. So basically, traditional annual year in '26 with 2% to 3% value price, which is obviously at 100% margin, driven by the total value delivered that we generate for our customers, which is a big growth driver for us and probably one of the best ones that I really like.
Christophe Beck: Basically, a traditional year in 2026 with 2% to 3% value price, which is obviously at 100% margin driven by the Total Value Delivered that we generate for our customers, which is a big growth driver for us and probably one of the best ones that I really like, and we'll keep focusing on that in the future.
Christophe Beck: Basically, a traditional year in 2026 with 2% to 3% value price, which is obviously at 100% margin driven by the Total Value Delivered that we generate for our customers, which is a big growth driver for us and probably one of the best ones that I really like, and we'll keep focusing on that in the future.
Speaker #11: And we'll keep focusing on that in the future.
Speaker #11: future. Our
Speaker #2: Next question is from the line of Josh Becter with UBS. Please proceed with your question.
Christophe Beck: Our next question is from the line of Josh Spector with UBS. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Our next question is from the line of Josh Spector with UBS. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #2: question. Yeah.
Speaker #10: Hi, good afternoon, and thanks for squeezing me in. Just a quick one here. I know you guys were spending a bit more on CapEx the last couple of years to basically grow into some new wins that I think you had in Specialty.
Christophe Beck: Yeah. Hi. Good afternoon, and thanks for squeezing me in. Just a quick one here. I know you guys were spending a bit more on CapEx the last couple of years to basically grow into some new wins that I think you had in specialty. I guess with specialty growing 7% the last couple of quarters, is that now in the run rate, or is there more of that to come, and will CapEx step down into next year as a result or stay at similar levels? Thanks.
Joshua Spector: Yeah. Hi. Good afternoon, and thanks for squeezing me in. Just a quick one here. I know you guys were spending a bit more on CapEx the last couple of years to basically grow into some new wins that I think you had in specialty. I guess with specialty growing 7% the last couple of quarters, is that now in the run rate, or is there more of that to come, and will CapEx step down into next year as a result or stay at similar levels? Thanks.
Speaker #10: I guess, with Specialty growing 7% the last couple of quarters, is that now in the run rate? Or is there more of that to come?
Speaker #10: And will CapEx step down into next year as a result or stay at similar levels?
Speaker #10: Thanks.
Christophe Beck: Let me pass it to Scott.
Christophe Beck: Let me pass it to Scott.
Speaker #12: Yeah, let me pass it to Scott. Our historical CapEx has been in this 5 to 6 percent range, and about half of that is equipment at customer locations.
Scott Kirkland: Yeah. Hi, Josh. Yeah. On CapEx, as you know, our historical CapEx has been in this 5% to 6% range, and about half of that is equipment at customer locations, which is why this thing grows in proportion to sales. The 2026 CapEx came in at about 6.5% of sales, to your point, because we're investing in growth like the new business, but also the innovations around DishIQ, pest intelligence, Global High-Tech, and that will continue into 2027. I expect that the CapEx in or sorry, into 2026. I expect the CapEx for 2026 to be around 7% and probably for the next couple of years because we're continuing to invest in those growth engines, really to focus on accelerating sales and expand margins. So we're investing organically and inorganically, both to expand margins and drive sales.
Scott Kirkland: Yeah. Hi, Josh. Yeah. On CapEx, as you know, our historical CapEx has been in this 5% to 6% range, and about half of that is equipment at customer locations, which is why this thing grows in proportion to sales. The 2026 CapEx came in at about 6.5% of sales, to your point, because we're investing in growth like the new business, but also the innovations around DishIQ, pest intelligence, Global High-Tech, and that will continue into 2027. I expect that the CapEx in or sorry, into 2026. I expect the CapEx for 2026 to be around 7% and probably for the next couple of years because we're continuing to invest in those growth engines, really to focus on accelerating sales and expand margins. So we're investing organically and inorganically, both to expand margins and drive sales.
Speaker #12: So, which is why this thing grows in proportion to sales. The 2026 CapEx came in at about 6.5% of sales.
Speaker #12: To your point, because we're in growth, we're investing in growth—like the new business—but also the innovations around Dish IQ, Pest Intelligence, Global High-Tech.
Speaker #12: And that will continue into 2027. I expect that the CapEx in—or sorry, into '26. I expect the CapEx for '26 to be around 7%.
Speaker #12: And probably for the next couple of years, because we're continuing to invest in those growth engines, really to focus on accelerating sales and expanding margins.
Speaker #12: So, we're investing organically and inorganically, both to expand margins and drive sales. And at the end of the day, it comes down to ROIC, and we like where we're at in ROIC and continue to expand that in line with our long-term targets.
Scott Kirkland: At the end of the day, it comes down to ROIC, and we like where we're at in ROIC and continue to expand that in line with our long-term targets.
Scott Kirkland: At the end of the day, it comes down to ROIC, and we like where we're at in ROIC and continue to expand that in line with our long-term targets.
Speaker #2: Our next question is from the line of Kevin McCarthy with Vertical Research Partners. Please receive your
Christophe Beck: Our next question is from the line of Kevin McCarthy with Vertical Research Partners. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Our next question is from the line of Kevin McCarthy with Vertical Research Partners. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #2: question. Yes.
Speaker #12: Thank you, and good afternoon. Christoph, on slide six, you indicate organic sales growth of 3% to 4%, accelerating through the year. And I just wanted to understand that acceleration piece better.
Kevin McCarthy: Yes. Thank you and good afternoon. Christophe, on slide 6, you indicate organic sales growth of 3% to 4% accelerating through the year. And I just wanted to understand that acceleration piece better. Is that to do with the aforementioned normalization or stabilization in basic industries, or are you expecting your higher growth platforms to accelerate as well? And then related to that, would you make a comment on the expected growth in your data center-linked businesses this year?
Kevin McCarthy: Yes. Thank you and good afternoon. Christophe, on slide 6, you indicate organic sales growth of 3% to 4% accelerating through the year. And I just wanted to understand that acceleration piece better. Is that to do with the aforementioned normalization or stabilization in basic industries, or are you expecting your higher growth platforms to accelerate as well? And then related to that, would you make a comment on the expected growth in your data center-linked businesses this year?
Speaker #12: Is that to do with the aforementioned normalization or stabilization in Basic Industries? Or are you expecting your higher growth platforms to accelerate as well?
Speaker #12: And then related to that, would you make a comment on the expected growth in your data center-linked businesses this year?
Speaker #12: year? The
Speaker #11: two questions here. So you're right. The 3 to 4. So I'll start where we are now. Obviously, and so toward the upper range or more of the 3 to 4.
Christophe Beck: The two questions here. So you're right. The 3 to 4, so it's where we are now, obviously, and so toward the upper range or more of the 3 to 4, driven by both, actually. So the normalization of the more challenged industries in paper and basic and our core and growth engine businesses that are doing extremely well. As we discussed before, our growth engines are growing double-digit today. And some of our core businesses, like institutional and specialty, so at 4, F&B at 5. So our core business and growth engines are doing really well at great margins and great margin development as well. So it's a combination of the two. And more specifically, the data center, which we don't exactly so disclose as such, but our Global High-Tech business is growing pretty strong double-digit sales.
Christophe Beck: The two questions here. So, you're right. The 3 to 4, so it's where we are now, obviously, and so toward the upper range or more of the 3 to 4, driven by both, actually. So the normalization of the more challenged industries in paper and basic and our core and growth engine businesses that are doing extremely well. As we discussed before, our growth engines are growing double-digit today. And some of our core businesses, like institutional and specialty, so at 4, F&B at 5. So our core business and growth engines are doing really well at great margins and great margin development as well. So it's a combination of the two. And more specifically, the data center, which we don't exactly so disclose as such, but our Global High-Tech business is growing pretty strong double-digit sales.
Speaker #11: Driven by both, actually. So, the normalization of the more challenged industries in paper and basic, and our core and growth engine businesses that are doing extremely well, as we've discussed before.
Speaker #11: Our growth engines are growing double-digit today. And some of our core businesses, like Institutional and Specialties, are at that 4, F&B at 5. So our core business and growth engines are doing, of course, really well at great margins and great margin development as well.
Speaker #11: So it's a combination of the two. And more specifically, the data center, which we don't exactly sort of disclose as such, but our global high-tech business is growing pretty strong double-digit sales. We will publish our exact numbers in the first quarter, by the way.
Christophe Beck: We will publish our exact numbers in Q1, by the way. So I want to make sure I'm not getting ahead of my skis here. But we will get more color in Q1. But it's one of our best businesses that we have here, very strong, strong margin, growing double-digit at strong rates. And Ovivo is going to help. And all the innovation I mentioned before on the cooling as a service is getting great reception, so from our customers that need it more than ever because chips get more powerful. They get more concentrated on a rack. They create more heat that requires more cooling. And if that doesn't happen, obviously, so the data center stops operating. So it's absolutely essential as a component of the compute offering here. So very good story and early on that story.
Christophe Beck: We will publish our exact numbers in Q1, by the way. So I want to make sure I'm not getting ahead of my skis here. But we will get more color in Q1. But it's one of our best businesses that we have here, very strong, strong margin, growing double-digit at strong rates. And Ovivo is going to help. And all the innovation I mentioned before on the cooling as a service is getting great reception, so from our customers that need it more than ever because chips get more powerful. They get more concentrated on a rack. They create more heat that requires more cooling. And if that doesn't happen, obviously, so the data center stops operating. So it's absolutely essential as a component of the compute offering here. So very good story and early on that story.
Speaker #11: So I want to make sure I'm not getting ahead of my skis here, but we will get more color in the first quarter. But it's one of our best businesses.
Speaker #11: That we have here. Very strong margin, growing double-digit at strong rates. And Arrivo is going to help. And all the innovation I mentioned before on the cooling-as-a-service is getting great reception.
Speaker #11: So from our customers, that need is more than ever because chips get more powerful. They get more concentrated on a rack. They create more heat that requires more cooling.
Speaker #11: And if that doesn't happen, obviously, the data center stops operating. So it's absolutely essential as a component of the compute offering here. So, very good story.
Speaker #11: And early on that story, I think that that's one of the businesses that's going to become one of the best and biggest businesses we will have in the
Christophe Beck: I think that that's one of the businesses that's going to become one of the best and biggest businesses we will have in the future.
Christophe Beck: I think that that's one of the businesses that's going to become one of the best and biggest businesses we will have in the future.
Speaker #11: future. The next question is from the line of Scott
Christophe Beck: The next question is from the line of Scott Schneeberger with Oppenheimer. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: The next question is from the line of Scott Schneeberger with Oppenheimer. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #2: Schneeberger with Oppenheimer. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #2: question. Thanks very much.
Scott Schneeberger: Thanks very much. Just a quick one. In life sciences, you had great momentum, a little step back in Q4 on the margin trajectory. Looks like you're doing some investment, some global capability buildout. Just curious, is that going to be something that is pressured for multiple quarters, or are we going to get back to inflect and head higher toward that target? Thanks.
Scott Schneeberger: Thanks very much. Just a quick one. In life sciences, you had great momentum, a little step back in Q4 on the margin trajectory. Looks like you're doing some investment, some global capability buildout. Just curious, is that going to be something that is pressured for multiple quarters, or are we going to get back to inflect and head higher toward that target? Thanks.
Speaker #12: Just a quick one. In Life Sciences, you had great momentum. A little setback in the fourth quarter on the margin trajectory. Looks like you're doing some investment, some global capability buildout.
Speaker #12: Just curious, is that going to be something that is pressured for multiple quarters, or are we going to get back to inflect and head higher toward that target?
Speaker #12: Thanks.
Speaker #11: It's going to be a great story. In '26, we've been building that business for years. As you know, I always loved that opportunity. The first few years were more complicated than we were hoping.
Christophe Beck: It's going to be a great story in 2026. We've been building that business for years, as you know. I always loved that opportunity. The first few years were more complicated than we were hoping, not because of internal questions, but the market. So it was a bit in a more challenging place after COVID. It helped us gain share, build further our business. And now we're collecting the fruits of what we've built in life science. And you've seen the growth acceleration. Bioprocessing, which is a core part of it, is doing extremely well in there, is really at the forefront of innovation for the biotech industry as well at the same time. So we're all going to really like the growth of that business starting in Q1, by the way, for life sciences. And our objective is to get to 30% margin.
Christophe Beck: It's going to be a great story in 2026. We've been building that business for years, as you know. I always loved that opportunity. The first few years were more complicated than we were hoping, not because of internal questions, but the market. So it was a bit in a more challenging place after COVID. It helped us gain share, build further our business. And now we're collecting the fruits of what we've built in life science. And you've seen the growth acceleration. Bioprocessing, which is a core part of it, is doing extremely well in there, is really at the forefront of innovation for the biotech industry as well at the same time. So we're all going to really like the growth of that business starting in Q1, by the way, for life sciences. And our objective is to get to 30% margin.
Speaker #11: Not because of internal questions, but the market. So it was a bit in a more challenging place after COVID. It helped us gain share, build further our business.
Speaker #11: And now we're collecting the fruits of what we've built. In Life Sciences, and you've seen the growth acceleration by your processing, which is a core part.
Speaker #11: It is doing extremely well in there, is really at the forefront of innovation for the biotech industry, as well as at the same time.
Speaker #11: So we're all going to really like the growth of that business starting in Q1. By the way, for Life Sciences, our objective is to get to a 30% margin.
Speaker #11: But we will not reduce our investment in the meantime to get to the margin quicker, what we want to make sure is that we get as much share as we can in order to get the returns ultimately in the long run that that business deserves.
Christophe Beck: But we will not reduce our investment in the meantime to get to the margin quicker. What we want to make sure is that we get as much share as we can in order so to get the returns ultimately in the long run that that business deserves. So overall, a great story that keeps getting stronger.
Christophe Beck: But we will not reduce our investment in the meantime to get to the margin quicker. What we want to make sure is that we get as much share as we can in order so to get the returns ultimately in the long run that that business deserves. So overall, a great story that keeps getting stronger.
Speaker #11: So overall, a great story that keeps getting better.
Speaker #11: stronger. Thank
Speaker #2: You. Our final question is from the line of Bobby's office with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.
Christophe Beck: Thank you. Our final question is from the line of Bob Koort with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question.
Operator: Thank you. Our final question is from the line of Bob Koort with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question.
Speaker #13: question. How is your customer retention and institutional and
George Tong: Thanks for taking the question. How is your customer retention in institutional and specialty?
Robert Koort: Thanks for taking the question. How is your customer retention in institutional and specialty?
Speaker #13: specialty? It hasn't
Speaker #11: Changed. So, it's always in the low to mid-90s in terms of retention. Attrition is obviously the reverse of that. It has stayed very stable.
Christophe Beck: It hasn't changed. So it's always in the low to mid-90s in terms of retention. Attrition is obviously the reverse of that. It stayed very stable over the years. We're looking at that very carefully because, well, we want to make absolutely sure that we do not lose our customers. We have this mantra of never, ever letting our customers down. In institutional and specialty, well, there's another dimension. It's restaurants closing. There's not much we can do for that. It's very different by country, obviously. But the customers we have and the numbers I gave you include the closures that we can't do anything against, obviously. So short answer, very stable.
Christophe Beck: It hasn't changed. So it's always in the low to mid-90s in terms of retention. Attrition is obviously the reverse of that. It stayed very stable over the years. We're looking at that very carefully because, well, we want to make absolutely sure that we do not lose our customers. We have this mantra of never, ever letting our customers down. In institutional and specialty, well, there's another dimension. It's restaurants closing. There's not much we can do for that. It's very different by country, obviously. But the customers we have and the numbers I gave you include the closures that we can't do anything against, obviously. So short answer, very stable.
Speaker #11: Over the years, we're looking at that very carefully because, well, we want to make absolutely sure that we do not lose our customers. We have this mantra of never, ever letting our customers down.
Speaker #11: In Institutional and Specialty, well, there's another dimension—it's restaurants closing. There's not much we can do. For that, it's very different. So, by country, obviously, but the customers we have and the numbers I gave you include the closures.
Speaker #11: That we can't do anything against, obviously. So, short answer: very stable. That's why I really like what our Institutional is doing and has done over the last five years as well.
Christophe Beck: That's why I really like what our Institutional is doing, has done over the last five years as well, shifting towards digital technology, all those IQ platforms that we talked about, Aqua IQ, for instance, which is a remote service for pools around the world. When you think about the work that's required, well, that's taken over by AI with that application. Those are game-changing innovations in that business that didn't exist five years ago. So institutionally in a very good place, Specialty that serves some more of the quick serve as part of this hospitality business, as you've heard, so growing very nicely. So at 7% very consistently with great margin as well. So I think that INS is in a very good shape. So I'll end where I started. The company is doing well, and I especially like the growth development we have in our core businesses.
Christophe Beck: That's why I really like what our Institutional is doing, has done over the last five years as well, shifting towards digital technology, all those IQ platforms that we talked about, Aqua IQ, for instance, which is a remote service for pools around the world. When you think about the work that's required, well, that's taken over by AI with that application. Those are game-changing innovations in that business that didn't exist five years ago. So institutionally in a very good place, Specialty that serves some more of the quick serve as part of this hospitality business, as you've heard, so growing very nicely. So at 7% very consistently with great margin as well. So I think that INS is in a very good shape. So I'll end where I started. The company is doing well, and I especially like the growth development we have in our core businesses.
Speaker #11: Shifting towards digital technology, all those IQ platforms that we talked about—Aqua IQ, for instance—which is a remote service for pools. Around the world, when you think about the work that's required, well, that's taken over by AI.
Speaker #11: With that application, those are game-changing innovations. In that business, that didn't exist five years ago. So institutionally, in a very good place. Specialty, that serves some more of the quick-serve as part of these hospitality businesses, as you've heard, so growing very nicely.
Speaker #11: So at 7%, very consistently, with great margin as well. So I think that INS is in very good shape. So I'll end where I started.
Speaker #11: The company is doing well, and I especially like the growth development we have in our core businesses. On top of it, the growth engines that are 20% of the company today are growing double digits.
Christophe Beck: On top of it, the growth engines that are 20% of the company today are growing double-digit with over-average margins as well. So our portfolio is shifting towards higher growth businesses, higher margins, which is exactly where we want to get to. And that's why I feel as good as I can be in 2026 with everything I know today.
Christophe Beck: On top of it, the growth engines that are 20% of the company today are growing double-digit with over-average margins as well. So our portfolio is shifting towards higher growth businesses, higher margins, which is exactly where we want to get to. And that's why I feel as good as I can be in 2026 with everything I know today.
Speaker #11: With over-average margins as well. So our portfolio is shifting towards higher-growth businesses, higher margins, which is exactly where we want to get to.
Speaker #11: And that's why I feel as good as I can be in 2026 with everything I know
Speaker #11: today. Thank you.
Speaker #12: That wraps up our fourth-quarter conference call. This conference call and the associated discussion slides will be available for replay on our website. Thank you for your time and participation.
Christophe Beck: Thank you. That wraps up our Q4 conference call. This conference call and the associated discussion slides will be available for replay on our website. Thank you for your time and participation. Hope everyone has a great rest of the day. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderful day.
Andy Hedberg: Thank you. That wraps up our Q4 conference call. This conference call and the associated discussion slides will be available for replay on our website. Thank you for your time and participation. Hope everyone has a great rest of the day.
Speaker #12: Hope everyone has a great rest of the day.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderful day.