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Q4 2025 Snap-on Inc Earnings Call
Operator: Good morning and welcome to the Snap-on Incorporated Q4 and full year 2025 results conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on a touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Sara Verbsky, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Operator: Good morning and welcome to the Snap-on Incorporated Q4 and full year 2025 results conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions.
Operator: To ask a question, you may press star then one on a touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Sara Verbsky, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: question, please press star, then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Sara Verbsky, Vice President of Investor ahead.
Speaker #2: you, Drew, and good morning review Snap-on's 4th Quarter and Full Year results, which are detailed in our everyone. press release issued earlier this morning.
Sara Verbsky: Thank you, Drew, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today as we review Snap-on's fourth quarter and full year results, which are detailed in our press release issued earlier this morning. We have on the call Nick Pinchuk, Snap-on's Chief Executive Officer, and Aldo Pagliari, Snap-on's Chief Financial Officer. Nick will kick off our call this morning with his perspective on our performance. Aldo will then provide a more detailed review of our financial results. After Nick provides some closing thoughts, we'll take your questions. As usual, we've provided slides to supplement our discussion. These slides can be accessed under the Downloads tab in the webcast viewer, as well as on our website, snap-on.com, under the Investor section. The slides will be archived on our website along with a transcript of today's call.
Sara Verbsky: Thank you, Drew, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today as we review Snap-on's fourth quarter and full year results, which are detailed in our press release issued earlier this morning. We have on the call Nick Pinchuk, Snap-on's Chief Executive Officer, and Aldo Pagliari, Snap-on's Chief Financial Officer. Nick will kick off our call this morning with his perspective on our performance.
Speaker #2: We have on the call Nick We appreciate you joining us today as we Pinchuk, Snap-on's Chief Executive Officer, and Aldo Pagliari,
Speaker #2: Officer. Nick will kick off our call this morning with his perspective on our performance. Aldo will then provide a more detailed review of our financial results.
Sara Verbsky: Aldo will then provide a more detailed review of our financial results. After Nick provides some closing thoughts, we'll take your questions. As usual, we've provided slides to supplement our discussion. These slides can be accessed under the Downloads tab in the webcast viewer, as well as on our website, snap-on.com, under the Investor section. The slides will be archived on our website along with a transcript of today's call.
Speaker #2: your questions. As usual, we've provided slides to supplement our discussion. These slides can be accessed Snap-on's Chief Financial under the Downloads tab in the webcast viewer, as well as on our website, Relations, please go snap-on.com, under the Investor section.
Speaker #2: The slides will be archived on our website along with a transcript of today's call. Any statements made management's expectations, estimates, or beliefs, or that otherwise discuss during this call relative to management's or the company's outlook, plans, or projections are forward-looking statements, and actual results may differ materially from those made in such statements.
Sara Verbsky: Any statements made during this call relative to management's expectations, estimates, or beliefs, or that otherwise discuss management's or the company's outlook, plans, or projections are forward-looking statements, and actual results may differ materially from those made in such statements. Additional information and the factors that could cause our results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements are contained in our SEC filings. Finally, this presentation includes non-GAAP measures of financial performance, which are not meant to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for their GAAP counterparts. Additional information regarding these measures is included in our earnings release issued today, which can be found on our website. With that said, I'd now like to turn the call over to Nick Pinchuk. Nick?
Sara Verbsky: Any statements made during this call relative to management's expectations, estimates, or beliefs, or that otherwise discuss management's or the company's outlook, plans, or projections are forward-looking statements, and actual results may differ materially from those made in such statements. Additional information and the factors that could cause our results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements are contained in our SEC filings.
Speaker #2: Additional information and the factors that could cause our results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements are contained in our SEC filings.
Sara Verbsky: Finally, this presentation includes non-GAAP measures of financial performance, which are not meant to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for their GAAP counterparts. Additional information regarding these measures is included in our earnings release issued today, which can be found on our website. With that said, I'd now like to turn the call over to Nick Pinchuk. Nick?
Speaker #2: Finally, this presentation includes non-GAAP measures of financial performance, which are or as a substitute for their GAAP regarding these measures is included in counterparts.
Speaker #2: our earnings release issued today, which can be found on our website. With that said, I'd now like to turn the call over
Nick Pinchuk: Thanks, Sara. Good morning, everybody. Well, I'll start by saying these are some times. Seems like every day brings a new twist of considerable significance. Fluctuating tariffs with big swings on presidential, domestic, and international events that dominate the news. Prolonged government shutdowns. We just avoided another one, but the hits just keep on coming.
Speaker #4: Good morning, to Nick Pinchuk. start by saying these times are something. Seems like every day brings a new twist
Nick Pinchuk: Good morning, everybody. Well, I'll start by saying these are some times. Seems like every day brings a new twist of considerable significance. Fluctuating tariffs with big swings on presidential, domestic, and international events that dominate the news. Prolonged government shutdowns. We just avoided another one, but the hits just keep on coming. But as we speak about the period, I believe you'll see that in the middle of it all, Snap-on shines through with strength. I'm going to tell you about that as we review the quarter. It's a story of resilient markets, sales progress, profitability, and continuing investments that further fortify our advantages in product and brand and in people. So as I cover the highlights of the last three months, I'll give you my perspective on the performance, on the markets, and on the progress we've made.
Speaker #4: And domestic and international events that dominate the news—prolonged government shutdowns; we just avoided another one—the hits just keep on coming. But as we speak about the period, I believe you'll see that, in the middle of it all, Snap-on shines through with strength.
Nick Pinchuk: But as we speak about the period, I believe you'll see that in the middle of it all, Snap-on shines through with strength. I'm going to tell you about that as we review the quarter. It's a story of resilient markets, sales progress, profitability, and continuing investments that further fortify our advantages in product and brand and in people. So as I cover the highlights of the last three months, I'll give you my perspective on the performance, on the markets, and on the progress we've made.
Speaker #4: I'm going to tell you about that as we review the quarter. It's a story of resilient markets, sales Additional information progress, profitability, and continuing investments that further fortify our advantages in product and brand and in people.
Speaker #4: So as I cover the highlights of the last three months, I'll give you my perspective on the performance, on the markets, and on the progress we've made.
Speaker #4: Then Aldo, we'll move into a more detailed review of the financials. Our 4th Quarter was emphatically served as testimony that our balanced approach—growth and improvement—is effective enough.
Nick Pinchuk: Then Aldo will move into a more detailed review of the financials. Our fourth quarter was encouraging. We believe it emphatically serves as testimony that our balanced approach, growth, and improvement is effective enough. Our advantages are powerful enough, and our team is experienced, capable, and committed enough to perform even in the most challenging of environments. So here are the numbers. In the fourth quarter, sales were $1,231.9 million, up 2.8% from last year as reported, including a 1.4% organic increase and $15.6 million of favorable foreign currency. Positive growth against the wind. And our operating income, OI, for the quarter was of $265.2 million, was equal to last year's. And the OI margin for the period was 21.5%, 60 basis points short of last year. The impacts of unfavorable currency combined with additional investments in brand building and product development.
Nick Pinchuk: Then Aldo will move into a more detailed review of the financials. Our fourth quarter was encouraging. We believe it emphatically serves as testimony that our balanced approach, growth, and improvement is effective enough. Our advantages are powerful enough, and our team is experienced, capable, and committed enough to perform even in the most challenging of environments. So here are the numbers.
Speaker #4: Our advantages are powerful enough, and our team is experienced, capable, and committed enough to perform even in the most challenging of environments. So here are the numbers.
Nick Pinchuk: In the fourth quarter, sales were $1,231.9 million, up 2.8% from last year as reported, including a 1.4% organic increase and $15.6 million of favorable foreign currency. Positive growth against the wind. And our operating income, OI, for the quarter was of $265.2 million, was equal to last year's. And the OI margin for the period was 21.5%, 60 basis points short of last year. The impacts of unfavorable currency combined with additional investments in brand building and product development.
Speaker #4: In the 4th Quarter, sales were $1,231.9 million, up 2.8% from last year, as $1.4% organic reported, including increase and 15.6 million of growth against the wind.
Speaker #4: And our op-co, operating favorable foreign currency. Positive income, OI, for the quarter was $265.2 million, which was equal to last year's. And the OI margin for the period was 21.5%, 60 basis points short of unfavorable currency, combined with additional development for financial investments in brand building and product services. OI of $7.7 million, or 11.5%—$74.4 million was up from last year.
Nick Pinchuk: For financial services, OI of $74.4 million was up $7.7 million or 11.5% from last year, due in large part to the 53rd week in the 2025 fiscal calendar being uniquely beneficial to the credit company. When combined with OPCO, the overall earnings for the corporation of $339.6 million was up 2.3% versus 2024, and the total margin was 25.3%. Our overall quarterly EPS, it reached $4.94, up $0.12 from the $4.82 recorded last year. The quarter shows the same resilience demonstrated over the years as we've paid dividends every quarter since 1939 without a single interruption or reduction. In fact, in November, it was with clear belief in our future that we raised our dividend by 14%, the 16th straight year of increase. It was another strong and tangible testament to Snap-on's consistency right through a variety of environments. Well, those are the numbers.
Nick Pinchuk: For financial services, OI of $74.4 million was up $7.7 million or 11.5% from last year, due in large part to the 53rd week in the 2025 fiscal calendar being uniquely beneficial to the credit company. When combined with OPCO, the overall earnings for the corporation of $339.6 million was up 2.3% versus 2024, and the total margin was 25.3%. Our overall quarterly EPS, it reached $4.94, up $0.12 from the $4.82 recorded last year.
Speaker #4: Doing a large part to the 53rd week in the 2025 fiscal calendar, being uniquely beneficial to the credit company. And when combined with op-co, the overall earnings for the corporation of $339.6 million was up 2.3% versus 24 and total margin was 25.3%.
Speaker #4: Our overall quarterly EPS, it reached $4.94, up 12 cents from the $4.82 recorded last year. The quarter shows the same resilience, demonstrated over the years as we've paid dividends.
Nick Pinchuk: The quarter shows the same resilience demonstrated over the years as we've paid dividends every quarter since 1939 without a single interruption or reduction. In fact, in November, it was with clear belief in our future that we raised our dividend by 14%, the 16th straight year of increase. It was another strong and tangible testament to Snap-on's consistency right through a variety of environments. Well, those are the numbers.
Speaker #4: Every quarter since 1939, without a single interruption or reduction. In fact, in November, it was with clear belief in our future that we raised our dividend by 14%, the 16th straight year of increase.
Speaker #4: It was another Snap-on's consistency, right through a variety of strong and tangible estimate to environments. Well, those are the numbers. Now to the markets.
Nick Pinchuk: Now to the markets. We believe the automotive repair remains very favorable, and that's validated by the average age of the car parc, now at 12.8 years, and it's continuing to rise by the growing complexity of new platforms driving more difficult and time-consuming repairs, and by the ongoing climb in household spending on vehicle repair. It's up again. And the vehicles and fixers all over are cashing in on the surge. Tech wages are up again, extending a fairly positive trend. Hours worked in the bays are also on the rise. We believe technicians are financially stronger than ever, and their prospects just keep getting better. It's unmistakable. There's a growing demand for capable vehicle repair. Shop owners tell us all the time, "They need more tech." And we believe this need will continue for several years.
Nick Pinchuk: Now to the markets. We believe the automotive repair remains very favorable, and that's validated by the average age of the car parc, now at 12.8 years, and it's continuing to rise by the growing complexity of new platforms driving more difficult and time-consuming repairs, and by the ongoing climb in household spending on vehicle repair. It's up again. And the vehicles and fixers all over are cashing in on the surge.
Speaker #4: We believe the automotive repair remains very favorable, and that's validated by the average age of the car part. Now at 12.8 years and its continuing to rise, by the platforms driving more difficult and growing complexity of new time-consuming repairs, and by the ongoing climb in household spending on vehicle repair.
Speaker #4: It's up again. And the vehicles and fixers, all over, are cashing in on the surge. Tech again. Extending a fairly positive trend. Hours worked in the bays are also on the rise.
Nick Pinchuk: Tech wages are up again, extending a fairly positive trend. Hours worked in the bays are also on the rise. We believe technicians are financially stronger than ever, and their prospects just keep getting better. It's unmistakable. There's a growing demand for capable vehicle repair. Shop owners tell us all the time, "They need more tech." And we believe this need will continue for several years.
Speaker #4: are financially stronger than ever. We believe technicians and their prospects just keep getting better. It's unmistakable. There's a growing demand for capable vehicle repair.
Speaker #4: Shop owners, tell us all the time, they need more tech. And we believe the need to continue for—and we believe continue for several years.
Speaker #4: In this need will fact, here's a good piece, I think. A recent article in The Economist ditched test books and leave and learn how to use a job.
Nick Pinchuk: In fact, here's a good piece, I think. A recent article in The Economist, "Ditch textbooks and learn how to use a wrench to AI-proof your job." That piece emphasized the considerable need for more technicians and the solid security provided by the profession, and it cites vehicle repair as one of the most AI-proof of jobs. The work is pretty challenging, both physically and mentally. Each repair is different, with variations and conditions that never seem to be the same. And as such, a mechanic needs a mastery of a massive repertoire of procedures, must summon the logic to troubleshoot puzzling failures, and must be able to navigate intricate mechanical setups with precision. It's a job that's getting more complex every day. The techs need help in keeping up, and Snap-on's very well positioned to do just that.
Nick Pinchuk: In fact, here's a good piece, I think. A recent article in The Economist, "Ditch textbooks and learn how to use a wrench to AI-proof your job." That piece emphasized the considerable need for more technicians and the solid security provided by the profession, and it cites vehicle repair as one of the most AI-proof of jobs. The work is pretty challenging, both physically and mentally. Each repair is different, with variations and conditions that never seem to be the same.
Speaker #4: The considerable need for more — that piece emphasized technicians and the solid security provided by the profession. And it cites vehicle repair as one of the most AI-proof of jobs.
Speaker #4: Work is pretty challenging, both physically and wrench to AI-proof your mentally. Each repair is different with variations and conditions that never seem to be the same.
Nick Pinchuk: And as such, a mechanic needs a mastery of a massive repertoire of procedures, must summon the logic to troubleshoot puzzling failures, and must be able to navigate intricate mechanical setups with precision. It's a job that's getting more complex every day. The techs need help in keeping up, and Snap-on's very well positioned to do just that.
Speaker #4: And as such, a mechanic needs a mastery of a massive repertoire of procedures, must summon the logic to troubleshoot puzzling failures, and must be able to navigate intricate mechanical setups.
Speaker #4: With precision. It's a job that's getting more complex every year. The techs need help in keeping up, and Snap-on's well-positioned—very well-positioned—to do just that.
Speaker #4: Now, in a a related but day. managers are also adapting, continuing to different segment, shop owners and invest in the advanced equipment and specialty tools required to attend the latest vehicles.
Nick Pinchuk: Now, in a related but different segment, shop owners and managers are also adapting, continuing to invest in the advanced equipment and specialty tools required to attend the latest vehicles. This is where Repair Systems and Information, or the RS&I group, resides. It's a target-rich environment. It's a target-rich environment for our capable undercar and collision equipment, and it's a great and growing opportunity for our expanding array of software and data products. It's an arena where Snap-on's well positioned with our extensive line of proprietary and comprehensive databases, billions of data points, now leveraged with large language models, language machine learning programs that search the exhaustive and complex information, matching the problem signature with just the right repair procedure in a split second, greatly expediting the vehicle fix, increasing shop productivity, and getting the vehicle back on the road faster than ever.
Nick Pinchuk: Now, in a related but different segment, shop owners and managers are also adapting, continuing to invest in the advanced equipment and specialty tools required to attend the latest vehicles. This is where Repair Systems and Information, or the RS&I group, resides. It's a target-rich environment. It's a target-rich environment for our capable undercar and collision equipment, and it's a great and growing opportunity for our expanding array of software and data products.
Speaker #4: This is where repair assistance information or the RS&I group resides. It's a target-rich environment. It's a target-rich environment for our capable undercar, and collision equipment, and it's a great and growing opportunity for our expanding array of software and data products.
Speaker #4: It's an arena where Snap-on's well-positioned with our extensive line of proprietary and comprehensive databases. Billions of data points now leveraged with large language models—language machine learning programs—that and complex information.
Nick Pinchuk: It's an arena where Snap-on's well positioned with our extensive line of proprietary and comprehensive databases, billions of data points, now leveraged with large language models, language machine learning programs that search the exhaustive and complex information, matching the problem signature with just the right repair procedure in a split second, greatly expediting the vehicle fix, increasing shop productivity, and getting the vehicle back on the road faster than ever.
Speaker #4: search the exhausted problem signature with just the right repair procedure in a split-second, greatly expediting the vehicle fix, increasing shop productivity, and getting the vehicle back on the road faster than ever.
Speaker #4: Again, this quarter, I had the opportunity to meet with franchisees from coast to coast. They're a great the new—about the now. And very enthusiastic about their futures.
Nick Pinchuk: Again, this quarter, I had the opportunity to meet with franchisees from coast to coast. They're a great barometer. They were all positive about the now and very enthusiastic about their futures. Sure, they still encounter the ongoing hesitation of techs toward long-term payback purchases. But at the same time, they're energized by the success of the tools group execution, pivoting to faster payback items, rolling out a continuous stream of innovative offerings that are making difficult and critical repair work faster and much easier. Now, in the current environment, tool storage remains the most impacted category, but we do see demand for smaller boxes, and our large range of accessories are starting to roar. In fact, Q4 showed kind of some significant improvement in originations. They were almost flat in the quarter. It's a clear game that bodes well for a future.
Nick Pinchuk: Again, this quarter, I had the opportunity to meet with franchisees from coast to coast. They're a great barometer. They were all positive about the now and very enthusiastic about their futures. Sure, they still encounter the ongoing hesitation of techs toward long-term payback purchases. But at the same time, they're energized by the success of the tools group execution, pivoting to faster payback items, rolling out a continuous stream of innovative offerings that are making difficult and critical repair work faster and much easier.
Speaker #4: Sure, they still encounter the ongoing hesitation of techs toward long-term payback purchases. But at by the success of the tools group the same time, they're energized execution.
Speaker #4: Pivoting to faster payback items, rolling out a continuous stream of innovative offerings that are making difficult and critical repair barometer. work faster and much They were all positive about easier.
Speaker #4: Now, in the current environment, tool storage remains the most impacted category. But we do see demand for smaller boxes and our large range of accessories are starting to roar.
Nick Pinchuk: Now, in the current environment, tool storage remains the most impacted category, but we do see demand for smaller boxes, and our large range of accessories are starting to roar. In fact, Q4 showed kind of some significant improvement in originations. They were almost flat in the quarter. It's a clear game that bodes well for a future.
Speaker #4: In fact, the fourth quarter showed kind of some significant improvement in originations. They were almost flat in the quarter. It's a clear gain that bolts appears that our pivot is working.
Nick Pinchuk: It appears that our pivot is working. So despite the challenges, automotive repair remains robust, and we believe we're well positioned to capitalize. Now, let's turn to critical industries where the commercial and industrial, or C&I, group operates with a focus on taking Snap-on out of the garage to places where work is very critical, justifying a Snap-on level product. Complex tasks performed in harsh and grueling environments, from oil fields to subsea floors to clean rooms for chip manufacturing and to tightly controlled bays for rocket manufacturing. This arena relies on our extensive catalog of products that provide precision, durability, reliability, and repeatability, all characteristics required to get the job done where the tasks are essential and critical. We believe we have a decisive advantage in these critical areas, and we keep investing to make it even stronger, and the fourth quarter was no exception.
Nick Pinchuk: It appears that our pivot is working. So despite the challenges, automotive repair remains robust, and we believe we're well positioned to capitalize. Now, let's turn to critical industries where the commercial and industrial, or C&I, group operates with a focus on taking Snap-on out of the garage to places where work is very critical, justifying a Snap-on level product.
Speaker #4: So despite the well for a future. It robust, and we believe we're well-positioned to capitalize. Now let's turn to critical industries where our commercial and industrial or C&I group operates with a focus on taking Snap-on out of the garage to places where Justifying a Snap-on-level work is very critical.
Speaker #4: product. Complex tasks performed in harsh and grueling environments, from oil fields to subsea floors to clean rooms for chip manufacturing and to tightly controlled bays for rocket manufacturing.
Nick Pinchuk: Complex tasks performed in harsh and grueling environments, from oil fields to subsea floors to clean rooms for chip manufacturing and to tightly controlled bays for rocket manufacturing. This arena relies on our extensive catalog of products that provide precision, durability, reliability, and repeatability, all characteristics required to get the job done where the tasks are essential and critical. We believe we have a decisive advantage in these critical areas, and we keep investing to make it even stronger, and the fourth quarter was no exception.
Speaker #4: This arena relies on our extensive catalog of products that provide precision, durability, reliability, and job done where the tasks are repeatability, all characteristics required to get the essential and critical.
Speaker #4: We believe we have a decisive advantage in this critical investing to make it even stronger. And the fourth quarter was no exception. This is also in the market where the largest global footprint for us.
Nick Pinchuk: This is also in the market with the largest global footprint for us. And that creates challenges in navigating the international headwinds like government protocols, varying economies, and currency fluctuation. During the quarter, Europe saw the continuing impact of the Ukraine war, and Asia was marked by the general loss of confidence in the Chinese economy. And the impact of the evolving US tariff regime changes all the time. More than any group, C&I encounters these obstacles from country to country, and it does cause some adversities across the group. But we're confident we have the strengths to overcome the variation and keep progressing, making the most of the abundant opportunities in this critical sector. So that's an overview of our markets. Resistance against turbulence filled with opportunities.
Nick Pinchuk: This is also in the market with the largest global footprint for us. And that creates challenges in navigating the international headwinds like government protocols, varying economies, and currency fluctuation. During the quarter, Europe saw the continuing impact of the Ukraine war, and Asia was marked by the general loss of confidence in the Chinese economy. And the impact of the evolving US tariff regime changes all the time.
Speaker #4: And that creates challenges in navigating protocols, varying economies, and the international headwinds like government currency fluctuation. And during the quarter, Europe saw the continuing impact of the Ukraine war.
Speaker #4: And Asia was marked by the general loss of confidence in the Chinese economy. And the impact of the and the impact of the evolving US tariff regime.
Speaker #4: Changes all the C&I encounters these obstacles from country to country and it does cause some adversities across the group. But we're confident we have the strengths to overcome the variation and keep progressing, making the most of the abundant opportunities in this critical sector.
Nick Pinchuk: More than any group, C&I encounters these obstacles from country to country, and it does cause some adversities across the group. But we're confident we have the strengths to overcome the variation and keep progressing, making the most of the abundant opportunities in this critical sector. So that's an overview of our markets. Resistance against turbulence filled with opportunities.
Speaker #4: So that's an overview of our markets. Resistance against turbulence filled with well—I should say opportunities. resilience and resistance against the And we're turbulence and it's filled with opportunities.
Nick Pinchuk: And we're well. I should say resilience and resistance against the turbulence, and it's filled with opportunities. We're well positioned to leverage the possibilities, progressing down our runways for growth, efforts that are fortified by our Snap-on value creation processes, safety, quality, customer connection, innovation, and rapid continuous improvement, or RCI, the core activities that underpin our performance, enabling it to hold fast despite the difficult headwinds of these days. Now for the operating groups. Let's start with C&I. Q4 sales of $398.1 million for the group were up $18.9 million or 5%, with an organic gain of $2.8 million and $7.9 million of favorable foreign currency translation. Our power tool division led the way with that growth, with double-digit gains, moving forward on the market enthusiasm for our new innovative power solutions that make work much easier.
Nick Pinchuk: And we're well. I should say resilience and resistance against the turbulence, and it's filled with opportunities. We're well positioned to leverage the possibilities, progressing down our runways for growth, efforts that are fortified by our Snap-on value creation processes, safety, quality, customer connection, innovation, and rapid continuous improvement, or RCI, the core activities that underpin our performance, enabling it to hold fast despite the difficult headwinds of these days. Now for the operating groups.
Speaker #4: And we're well positioned to leverage the possibilities, progressing down our runways for growth. Efforts that are fortified by our Snap-on Value Creation Processes—safety, quality, customer connection, innovation, and rapid continuous improvement, or RCI.
Speaker #4: The core activities that underpin our performance enabling it to hold fast despite the difficult headwinds of these days. Now for the operating group's—let's start with sales of 398.1 million for the group were up 18.9 million or 5% with our organic gain of 2.8 million and 7.9 million of favorable foreign currency translation.
Nick Pinchuk: Let's start with C&I. Q4 sales of $398.1 million for the group were up $18.9 million or 5%, with an organic gain of $2.8 million and $7.9 million of favorable foreign currency translation. Our power tool division led the way with that growth, with double-digit gains, moving forward on the market enthusiasm for our new innovative power solutions that make work much easier.
Speaker #4: Our power tool division led the way with that growth, with double-digit gains, moving forward on the market enthusiasm for our new innovative power solutions that make work much easier.
Speaker #4: And especially the torque business was also up, driven by the ever-growing need for precision instruments. And in the critical industries, come back. Our industrial operations overcame the impacts of the prolonged U.S. government shutdown.
Nick Pinchuk: Especially the torque business was also up, driven by the ever-growing need for precision instruments. In the critical industries, comeback. Our industrial operations overcame the impact of the prolonged US government shutdown. It kind of cut off things for a while. Things were kind of slow for a while. They overcame that wielding its increasingly powerful custom kitting operations like never before to come roaring down the stretch, registering a positive volume and catching up. I mean, you should have seen this team, seen them working on catching up. It was a wowza. OI for C&I was $60.6 million, included and included a benefit of $4.5 million related to the refinement of our footprint. It compared with the $63.5 million registered last year.
Nick Pinchuk: Especially the torque business was also up, driven by the ever-growing need for precision instruments. In the critical industries, comeback. Our industrial operations overcame the impact of the prolonged US government shutdown. It kind of cut off things for a while. Things were kind of slow for a while.
Speaker #4: It kind of cut off things for a while. Things were kind of slow for a while. They overcame that wielding its increasingly powerful custom-kitting operations like never before to come roaring down the stretch, registering a positive volume and catching up.
Nick Pinchuk: They overcame that wielding its increasingly powerful custom kitting operations like never before to come roaring down the stretch, registering a positive volume and catching up. I mean, you should have seen this team, seen them working on catching up. It was a wowza. OI for C&I was $60.6 million, included and included a benefit of $4.5 million related to the refinement of our footprint. It compared with the $63.5 million registered last year.
Speaker #4: I mean, you should have seen this team seeing them working on catching up. It was a wowzer. A why for C&I was 60.6 million, included a benefit of 4.5 million related to the refinement of our footprint.
Speaker #4: And compared with the $63.5 million registered last year, the OI margin was 15.2% versus 16.7% in 2024, primarily due to material cost increase and stronger sales in some of the group's lower-margin businesses.
Nick Pinchuk: The OI margin was 15.2% versus the 16.7% in 2024, primarily due to material cost increase and stronger sales in some of the group's lower margin businesses. As I said, the sales growth was fueled by new innovative power tools engineered by our team in Murphy, North Carolina, and Kenosha, Wisconsin. In the back half of the quarter, for example, we launched our new NanoAxcess cordless lineup. I mean, this baby is groundbreaking. Developed from insights, gained from customer connections right in the shops at the point of work. The Nano is a compact power tool. And when I say compact, I mean small enough to fit right in the palm of your hand, and it can be carried everywhere in a small pocket to be always on hand when the need arises.
Nick Pinchuk: The OI margin was 15.2% versus the 16.7% in 2024, primarily due to material cost increase and stronger sales in some of the group's lower margin businesses. As I said, the sales growth was fueled by new innovative power tools engineered by our team in Murphy, North Carolina, and Kenosha, Wisconsin. In the back half of the quarter, for example, we launched our new NanoAxcess cordless lineup. I mean, this baby is groundbreaking.
Speaker #4: group was—the sales growth As I said, the sales was fueled by new innovative power tools. Engineered by our team and Murphy North Carolina and Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Speaker #4: back half of the quarter, for In the example, in the back half of the quarter, we launched our new NanoAxis is cordless lineup. I mean, this baby groundbreaking.
Nick Pinchuk: Developed from insights, gained from customer connections right in the shops at the point of work. The Nano is a compact power tool. And when I say compact, I mean small enough to fit right in the palm of your hand, and it can be carried everywhere in a small pocket to be always on hand when the need arises.
Speaker #4: Developed from insights gained from customer connections right in the shops at the point of work, the Nano is a compact power tool. And when I say compact, I mean small enough to fit right in the palm of your hand and it can be carried everywhere in a small pocket to be always on hand when the It's a big advantage as tech's or venture out into the yard.
Nick Pinchuk: It's a big advantage as techs change positions across the shop or venture out into the yard. The unit also has an internal ampere-hour battery that drives over 600 fasteners, 600 fasteners on a single charge. You see, from our customer connections, we know that most inspections and general repairs are low-torque applications like removing panels, clamps, and fasteners under the dash and in crowded engine compartments. For these common tasks, the Nano has the power for rapid removal, the control to avoid stripping the fastener, and has the right size to fit where no other power tool can go. It's a real time saver and a fast payback item, and it's right on target for the environment. The initial release featured two models, one straight and one 90-degree pistol driver. Both units set new records for new power tool rollouts. Pretty strong.
Nick Pinchuk: It's a big advantage as techs change positions across the shop or venture out into the yard. The unit also has an internal ampere-hour battery that drives over 600 fasteners, 600 fasteners on a single charge. You see, from our customer connections, we know that most inspections and general repairs are low-torque applications like removing panels, clamps, and fasteners under the dash and in crowded engine compartments.
Speaker #4: The unit internal ampere-hour battery has an internal—also has an that drives over 600 fasteners. 600 fasteners on a single charge. You see, from our customer connections, we know that most inspections are general repairs are low torque applications like removing panels, clamps, and fasteners under the dash and in crowded engine compartments.
Speaker #4: For these common tasks, the Nano has the power for rapid renewal, the control to avoid stripping the fastener, and has the right size to fit where no other power tool can go.
Nick Pinchuk: For these common tasks, the Nano has the power for rapid removal, the control to avoid stripping the fastener, and has the right size to fit where no other power tool can go. It's a real time saver and a fast payback item, and it's right on target for the environment. The initial release featured two models, one straight and one 90-degree pistol driver. Both units set new records for new power tool rollouts. Pretty strong.
Speaker #4: It's a real-time saver and a fast payback item. And it's right on target for the environment. The initial release featured two models: one straight and one 90-degree pistol driver.
Speaker #4: Both units set new records for new power tool rollouts. Pretty strong. Also in the quarter, our city of industry factory in California launched our new control tech plus torque wrench.
Nick Pinchuk: Also in the quarter, our City of Industry Factory in California launched our new ControlTech+ torque wrench. It's a unit that has the high precision needed for critical industries and performs with great reliability in the harsh conditions that are often encountered outside the garage. It's robust, all-steel construction. It's durable, perfect for heavy-duty use. And the design includes a large LED display that's visible in bright sunlight or in dark work areas, anywhere an industrial tech plies their trade. And that unit is intrinsically safe, meaning it's certified to work in flammable areas. It's an important feature for critical applications. And the internal rechargeable battery ensures the device is always powered up and ready for work. Our new ControlTech+, accurate, durable, easier to use, and safe, taking Snap-on out of the garage and helping deliver the C&I quarter.
Nick Pinchuk: Also in the quarter, our City of Industry Factory in California launched our new ControlTech+ torque wrench. It's a unit that has the high precision needed for critical industries and performs with great reliability in the harsh conditions that are often encountered outside the garage. It's robust, all-steel construction. It's durable, perfect for heavy-duty use.
Speaker #4: It's a unit that has high precision needed for critical industries and performs a great liability in the harsh conditions that are often encountered outside the garage.
Speaker #4: robust to all steel construction. It's durable. Perfect for heavy-duty use and the design includes a It's large LED, a large LED display that's visible in bright sunlight or in dark work areas.
Nick Pinchuk: And the design includes a large LED display that's visible in bright sunlight or in dark work areas, anywhere an industrial tech plies their trade. And that unit is intrinsically safe, meaning it's certified to work in flammable areas. It's an important feature for critical applications. And the internal rechargeable battery ensures the device is always powered up and ready for work. Our new ControlTech+, accurate, durable, easier to use, and safe, taking Snap-on out of the garage and helping deliver the C&I quarter.
Speaker #4: Anywhere in industrial tech plies their trade. And that unit is entrenched in the unit is intrinsically work in flammable areas. It's an important feature for critical applications.
Speaker #4: safe, meaning it's certified to And the internal rechargeable battery ensures the device is always powered up and ready for work. Our new control tech plus accurate, durable, easier to use, and safe, helping deliver the C&I quarter.
Speaker #4: taking Snap-on out of the garage and Well, that's comeback, wielding our critical custom kit capacity, mighty might power tools, and precision torque. Rising all rising to new levels.
Nick Pinchuk: Well, that's C&I, sales up, a powerful comeback wielding our critical custom kit capacity, mighty-might power tools, and precision torque, all rising to new levels. Now onto the tools group. Quarterly sales were $505 million, down from the $506.6 million of last year. But the OI was $107.3 million, up from the $106.9 million last year. And the OI margin was 21.2%, rising 10 basis points. The fluctuating tariffs, the prolonged shutdowns, and the constant parade of Big Bang actions and ideas coming out of Washington have stoked technician uncertainty and reinforced reluctance toward longer payback items. But the tools group's ongoing pivot has authored a series of shorter payback items that are bringing high value and strengthened margins for the shop.
Nick Pinchuk: Well, that's C&I, sales up, a powerful comeback wielding our critical custom kit capacity, mighty-might power tools, and precision torque, all rising to new levels. Now onto the tools group. Quarterly sales were $505 million, down from the $506.6 million of last year. But the OI was $107.3 million, up from the $106.9 million last year.
Speaker #4: Now onto the tools group. Quarterly sales of 505 million, quarterly sales were of 505 million were down from the word 505 million down from the 506.6 million of last year.
Speaker #4: the OI was 107.3 million up from the 106.9 million last year. And the OI margin was 21.2%, rising But 10 basis points. The fluctuating tariffs, the prolonged shutdowns, and the constant parade of big bang accidents and ideas coming out of Washington have stoked technician uncertainty and reinforced reluctance toward longer payback items.
Nick Pinchuk: And the OI margin was 21.2%, rising 10 basis points. The fluctuating tariffs, the prolonged shutdowns, and the constant parade of Big Bang actions and ideas coming out of Washington have stoked technician uncertainty and reinforced reluctance toward longer payback items. But the tools group's ongoing pivot has authored a series of shorter payback items that are bringing high value and strengthened margins for the shop.
Speaker #4: But the tools group, but the tools group's ongoing pivot has authored a series of shorter payback items that are bringing high value and strength in margins to the shop.
Speaker #4: And that positive is evidenced by the group's gross margins of 46.1%, a gain of 150 basis points over last year, despite the flat volume.
Nick Pinchuk: That positive is evidenced by the group's gross margins of 46.1%, a gain of 150 basis points over last year despite the flat volume. Boom, shaggalaca. This is an eye-popper. At the same time, even in the turbulence, we remain committed toward investing. Even in the turbulence, we remain committed toward investing in the van network, maintaining our advantage in product, branding, and people. In the quarter, spending on operating expenses rose 140 basis points, helping to ensure that the group will be at full strength when the uncertainty thaws. The Snap-on core, the core of our business here, is our powerful product line. Now over 85,000 strong across the corporation, over 40,000 just in the tools group. The period saw a number of great new examples in the tools group.
Nick Pinchuk: That positive is evidenced by the group's gross margins of 46.1%, a gain of 150 basis points over last year despite the flat volume. Boom, shaggalaca. This is an eye-popper. At the same time, even in the turbulence, we remain committed toward investing. Even in the turbulence, we remain committed toward investing in the van network, maintaining our advantage in product, branding, and people.
Speaker #4: Boom, shakalaka. This is an eye-popper. And at the same time, even in the turbulence, we remain committed toward investing. Even in the turbulence, we remain committed toward investing in the van network, maintaining our advantage in product and brand and in people.
Speaker #4: So the quarter in the tools group, so in the quarter, spending on operating expenses rose 140 basis points. Helping to ensure that the group will be at full strength when the uncertainty thaws.
Nick Pinchuk: In the quarter, spending on operating expenses rose 140 basis points, helping to ensure that the group will be at full strength when the uncertainty thaws. The Snap-on core, the core of our business here, is our powerful product line. Now over 85,000 strong across the corporation, over 40,000 just in the tools group. The period saw a number of great new examples in the tools group.
Speaker #4: Snap-on Core, But the the core of our business here is our powerful product line. Now over 85,000 strong across corporation, over 40,000 just in the tools group.
Speaker #4: And the period saw a number of great new examples in the tools group. During the quarter, our Milwaukee, Wisconsin facility released the new line of impact flex sockets.
Nick Pinchuk: During the quarter, our Milwaukee, Wisconsin facility released the new line of Impact Flex sockets. Customer connection identified a range of tasks. We're removing components to access the fix, was burning a lot of tech time. Armed with that insight, our engineers have designed the new 307RIPLMS, a seven-piece impact socket set featuring extra-long, reduced-diameter shafts and low-profile hex heads. Now, its design enables easy access to deeply recessed fasteners, and it provides a clearance around blocking obstructions, all without removing additional parts. It's an ideal tool for speeding up routine tasks like brake caliper removals, catalytic converter replacements, and extracting exhaust manifold bolts. Our new long-shaft impact socket set is a winner. It increases productivity, creates quick paybacks, and the technicians have noticed, making this design another hit product, $1 million hit product.
Nick Pinchuk: During the quarter, our Milwaukee, Wisconsin facility released the new line of Impact Flex sockets. Customer connection identified a range of tasks. We're removing components to access the fix, was burning a lot of tech time. Armed with that insight, our engineers have designed the new 307RIPLMS, a seven-piece impact socket set featuring extra-long, reduced-diameter shafts and low-profile hex heads.
Speaker #4: Customer connection identified a range of tasks where removing components where removing components to access the fix was burning a lot of tech time. Armed with that insight, our engineers have designed the new 307 RIP LMS, a seven-piece impact socket set featuring extra long and low-profile hex heads.
Nick Pinchuk: Now, its design enables easy access to deeply recessed fasteners, and it provides a clearance around blocking obstructions, all without removing additional parts. It's an ideal tool for speeding up routine tasks like brake caliper removals, catalytic converter replacements, and extracting exhaust manifold bolts. Our new long-shaft impact socket set is a winner. It increases productivity, creates quick paybacks, and the technicians have noticed, making this design another hit product, $1 million hit product.
Speaker #4: And it's design enables easy access to deeply recessed fasteners and it provides the clearance around blocking obstructions. All without removing additional parts. It's an ideal tool for speeding up routine removals, catalytic converter replacements, and extracting exhaust manifold bolts.
Speaker #4: socket set is a Our new long shaft impact winner. It increases productivity, creates quick paybacks, and the technicians have noticed. another hit broad. $1 million hit product.
Speaker #4: Also rolling out of the Algona Iowa plant, a new two-storage configuration. The KTL 1021, a 54-inch single bank master series roll plate, cab. But with the unique features that all seven drawers span the full width of the box.
Nick Pinchuk: Also rolling out of the Algona, Iowa plant, a new tool storage configuration, the KTL1021, a 54-inch single bank Master Series roll cab, but with the unique features that all seven drawers span the full width of the box. Those drawers are equipped with heavy-duty dual ball-bearing slides. The unit has the space and the strength to handle additional storage within a compact footprint, 9,300sq in to be exact. Now, space and strength define a storage utility. The new unit has plenty of space for our foam organizing trays, T-LOC, and a load capacity of nearly three and a half tons. Big. It's an offering with powerful capabilities at a mid-range price point, and it's just the storage product for this environment. As you might expect, it was a great success. Some of what you see in the orderings come from this.
Nick Pinchuk: Also rolling out of the Algona, Iowa plant, a new tool storage configuration, the KTL1021, a 54-inch single bank Master Series roll cab, but with the unique features that all seven drawers span the full width of the box. Those drawers are equipped with heavy-duty dual ball-bearing slides. The unit has the space and the strength to handle additional storage within a compact footprint, 9,300sq in to be exact. Now, space and strength define a storage utility.
Speaker #4: And those drawers are equipped with heavy-duty dual bare ball bearing slides. The unit has the additional storage without within a compact footprint. 9,300 square inches to be exact.
Speaker #4: Now space and strength define a storage utility. And the new unit has plenty of space for our full organizing trays that techs love and a load capacity of nearly three and a half tons.
Nick Pinchuk: The new unit has plenty of space for our foam organizing trays, T-LOC, and a load capacity of nearly three and a half tons. Big. It's an offering with powerful capabilities at a mid-range price point, and it's just the storage product for this environment. As you might expect, it was a great success. Some of what you see in the orderings come from this.
Speaker #4: Big. It's an offering with powerful capabilities at a mid-range price point. And it's just the storage product for this environment. And as you might expect, it was a great success.
Speaker #4: Success. Some of what you see in the originations comes from this. Well, that's the Tools Group—matching technician preferences, leveraging customers, investing in our strengths.
Nick Pinchuk: Well, that's the tools group. Matching technician preferences, leveraging customer connections, investing in our strengths, all in the turbulence. Now for RS&I. Sales in the quarter were $467.8 million, up $11.2 million compared to 2022, and including on our organic sales gain of $4.8 million. The group's fifth consecutive quarter of growth against the turbulence. Higher volume with vehicle OEMs and dealerships, and gains within information databases to independent garages led the way, more than offsetting lower sales and big-ticket diagnostic units. RS&I operating earnings for the quarter were $117.7 million, and the operating margin was a strong 25.2%, but it was down 140 basis points from the 26.6% recorded last year. That reduction represents very robust investment in software development and brand building. Similar to the tools group, RS&I gross margins were strong, 46.9%, about equal to last year despite cost increases.
Nick Pinchuk: Well, that's the tools group. Matching technician preferences, leveraging customer connections, investing in our strengths, all in the turbulence. Now for RS&I. Sales in the quarter were $467.8 million, up $11.2 million compared to 2022, and including on our organic sales gain of $4.8 million. The group's fifth consecutive quarter of growth against the turbulence. Higher volume with vehicle OEMs and dealerships, and gains within information databases to independent garages led the way, more than offsetting lower sales and big-ticket diagnostic units.
Speaker #4: All in the turbulence. Now for connection. RS&I. Sales in the quarter were 467.8 million, up 11.2 million compared to 2022. And including on our annex sales gain of 4.8 million.
Speaker #4: The group's fifth consecutive quarter of growth against the turbulence. Higher volume with vehicle OEMs and dealerships and gains within information databases to independent garages led the way.
Speaker #4: More than ticket diagnostic units. RS&I offsetting lower sales and big were 117.7 million. And the operating margin was a strong 25.2%. But it was down 140 basis points from the 26.6% recorded last year.
Nick Pinchuk: RS&I operating earnings for the quarter were $117.7 million, and the operating margin was a strong 25.2%, but it was down 140 basis points from the 26.6% recorded last year. That reduction represents very robust investment in software development and brand building. Similar to the tools group, RS&I gross margins were strong, 46.9%, about equal to last year despite cost increases.
Speaker #4: Represents very robust investment in software development and brand building. Similar to Tools Group, RS&I gross margins were strong—46.9%, about equal to last year—despite cost increases.
Speaker #4: And just like tools, the group invested to build its advantage in both hardware and software, helping to drive the points over last year, thus the numbers.
Nick Pinchuk: And just like tools, the group invested to build its advantage in both hardware and software, helping to drive the operating expenses 130 basis points over last year, thus the numbers. But we believe the spending will be well worth it. And we'll make our advantages even stronger going forward. You see, growing vehicle complexity paired with an aging car part makes understanding the different vehicle setups very difficult, especially with the variations of creature comforts and safety equipment found in modern vehicles. And this is where RS&I itself, converting billions of data points within microseconds and delivering it into the hands of the tech, enabling them to diagnose the problem and execute the fix quickly. And it's already happened.
Nick Pinchuk: And just like tools, the group invested to build its advantage in both hardware and software, helping to drive the operating expenses 130 basis points over last year, thus the numbers. But we believe the spending will be well worth it. And we'll make our advantages even stronger going forward.
Speaker #4: But that reduction—we believe the spending will be well worth it. And we'll make our advantages even stronger going forward. You see, growing vehicle complexity paired with an aging car park makes understanding the operating expenses, 130 basis points, comforts and safety equipment found in modern vehicles.
Nick Pinchuk: You see, growing vehicle complexity paired with an aging car part makes understanding the different vehicle setups very difficult, especially with the variations of creature comforts and safety equipment found in modern vehicles. And this is where RS&I itself, converting billions of data points within microseconds and delivering it into the hands of the tech, enabling them to diagnose the problem and execute the fix quickly. And it's already happened.
Speaker #4: And this is where RS&I fell. within microseconds and Converting billions of data points delivering it into the hands of the techs. Enabling them to diagnose the problem and execute the fix already happened.
Speaker #4: In the quarter, the group released the all-new 2600, diagnostic platform, offering MT, the Snap-on MT a quick payback unit positioned as a powerful entry-level device for the diagnostic area for the automotive diagnostic arena.
Nick Pinchuk: In the quarter, the group released the all-new Snap-on MT2600 diagnostic platform, offering a quick payback unit positioned as a powerful entry-level device for the diagnostic arena, for the automotive diagnostic arena. The new unit's capable of communicating with 50 different OEMs from around the globe on models dating back to 1983. In other words, it handles a wide range of vehicles. It is fast with live data graphs, functional tests, and the capability to reset service and check engine lines. Plug into this vehicle's diagnostic port and press go. It's ready to go. No time wasted loading software. It automatically identifies the vehicle VIN-specific information. Just because it's the same make and model doesn't mean the vehicle's the same in the repair world. Models are not the same in the repair world.
Nick Pinchuk: In the quarter, the group released the all-new Snap-on MT2600 diagnostic platform, offering a quick payback unit positioned as a powerful entry-level device for the diagnostic arena, for the automotive diagnostic arena. The new unit's capable of communicating with 50 different OEMs from around the globe on models dating back to 1983.
Speaker #4: The new unit's capable of communicating with 50 different OEMs from around the globe on models dating back to 1983. In other words, it handles a wide range of vehicles.
Nick Pinchuk: In other words, it handles a wide range of vehicles. It is fast with live data graphs, functional tests, and the capability to reset service and check engine lines. Plug into this vehicle's diagnostic port and press go. It's ready to go. No time wasted loading software. It automatically identifies the vehicle VIN-specific information. Just because it's the same make and model doesn't mean the vehicle's the same in the repair world. Models are not the same in the repair world.
Speaker #4: And it is fast, with live data graphs, functional reset service, and check engine lights. Plug into this vehicle's diagnostic port and press go.
Speaker #4: It's ready to go. No time wasted loading software. It automatically identifies the vehicle's VIN-specific information just because the same just because it's the same make and model.
Speaker #4: Doesn't mean the vehicle's the same in the repair world. Models are not the same in the repair world. One could have been one could have been ordered assist and the other with air ride suspension.
Nick Pinchuk: One could have been ordered with options like parking assist and the other with air ride suspension. There's no need to look it up. Now, the MT2600 knows the unique differences instantly without any additional input. It's a real time saver. It's a productivity advancer. It's a pay raiser for entry-level techs. The Snap-on MT2600, a powerful feature set and a price aligned to match current technician preferences. It was a hit with franchisees and with the customers alike. That's RS&I. TransUmane robust, aging car park, vehicle technology continuing to advance, making repairs complex, abundant opportunities for growth. Snap-on has the position and the product lineup to take advantage, and we're investing to extend that lead. That's our fourth quarter performance in the midst of turbulence.
Nick Pinchuk: One could have been ordered with options like parking assist and the other with air ride suspension. There's no need to look it up. Now, the MT2600 knows the unique differences instantly without any additional input. It's a real time saver. It's a productivity advancer. It's a pay raiser for entry-level techs. The Snap-on MT2600, a powerful feature set and a price aligned to match current technician preferences.
Speaker #4: But there's no need to look it up. With options like parking Now, the MT 2600 knows the unique differences instantly, without any additional input.
Speaker #4: And it's a real-time saver. It's a productivity advancer. And it's a For entry-level techs. The feature set and a price Snap-on M2600, a powerful aligned to match current technician preferences.
Speaker #4: And it was pay raiser. a hit with franchisees RS&I. Trends remain robust. Aging car park. Vehicle Making repairs complex. Abundant the position and the product lineup to take advantage and we're investing to extend that lead.
Nick Pinchuk: It was a hit with franchisees and with the customers alike. That's RS&I. TransUmane robust, aging car park, vehicle technology continuing to advance, making repairs complex, abundant opportunities for growth. Snap-on has the position and the product lineup to take advantage, and we're investing to extend that lead. That's our fourth quarter performance in the midst of turbulence.
Speaker #4: Quarter. Performance in the midst of turbulence. CNI sales up. Critical industries impeded by the shutdown, but roaring back to record a positive. Substantial gains—that’s our fourth torque products.
Nick Pinchuk: C&I sales up, critical industries impeded by the shutdown, but roaring back to record a positive, substantial gains with new power tools and precision torque products. The tools group, about flat, attenuated by tech uncertainty, but growing gross margins, up 150 basis points without a volume boost. Continuing investments in product, in brand, and its people. RS&I, fifth straight quarter of growth gains with OEMs and independent shops, strengthening its proprietary database and its software, and the overall business. Sales up 2.8% as reported, 1.4% organically, and an EPS of $4.94 up again over last year. Progress and investment in a difficult market. It was an encouraging quarter. Now I'll turn the call over to Aldo. Aldo?
Nick Pinchuk: C&I sales up, critical industries impeded by the shutdown, but roaring back to record a positive, substantial gains with new power tools and precision torque products. The tools group, about flat, attenuated by tech uncertainty, but growing gross margins, up 150 basis points without a volume boost.
Speaker #4: The tools group, about flat. Attenuated by tech uncertainty, but growing gross margins, up 150 basis points without a volume boost. Continuing investments in products and with new power tools and precision people.
Nick Pinchuk: Continuing investments in product, in brand, and its people. RS&I, fifth straight quarter of growth gains with OEMs and independent shops, strengthening its proprietary database and its software, and the overall business. Sales up 2.8% as reported, 1.4% organically, and an EPS of $4.94 up again over last year. Progress and investment in a difficult market. It was an encouraging quarter. Now I'll turn the call over to Aldo. Aldo?
Speaker #4: RS&I, fixed-rate quarter of growth, gains with OEMs and independent shops, strengthening its proprietary database and its software. business, sales up 2.8% And the overall as reported, 1.4% organically, and an EPS of $4.94 year.
Speaker #4: up again over last Progress in investment in a difficult market. It was an encouraging quarter. Now turning the call over to Aldo. Aldo, thanks, Nick.
Sara Verbsky: Thanks, Nick. Our consolidated operating results for the fourth quarter are summarized on slide six. Net sales of $1,231.9 million in the quarter represented an increase of 2.8% to 2024 levels, reflecting a 1.4% organic sales gain and $15.6 million of favorable foreign currency translation. Sales in our commercial and industrial sector, or the C&I group, increased year over year, led by strong performances with critical industry customers and robust sales by our power tools operation. In our automotive repair market, sales gains with repair shop owners and managers were somewhat tempered by slightly lower activity through our franchise van channel. Consolidated gross margin of 49.2% compared to 49.7% in the fourth quarter last year. The decline of 50 basis points primarily reflects higher material and other costs, as well as higher sales and lower gross margin businesses within the C&I group.
Aldo Pagliari: Thanks, Nick. Our consolidated operating results for the fourth quarter are summarized on slide six. Net sales of $1,231.9 million in the quarter represented an increase of 2.8% to 2024 levels, reflecting a 1.4% organic sales gain and $15.6 million of favorable foreign currency translation. Sales in our commercial and industrial sector, or the C&I group, increased year over year, led by strong performances with critical industry customers and robust sales by our power tools operation.
Speaker #4: Our consolidated operating results for the fourth quarter are summarized on slide six. Net sales of $1,231.9 million in the quarter represented an increase of levels, reflecting a 1.4% 2.8% in 2024 organic sales gain and 15.6 sector or the CNI group increased year over year, led by strong performances with critical industry customers million of favorable foreign currency and robust sales by our power repair market, sales gains with repair shop owners and managers were somewhat tools operation.
Aldo Pagliari: In our automotive repair market, sales gains with repair shop owners and managers were somewhat tempered by slightly lower activity through our franchise van channel. Consolidated gross margin of 49.2% compared to 49.7% in the fourth quarter last year. The decline of 50 basis points primarily reflects higher material and other costs, as well as higher sales and lower gross margin businesses within the C&I group.
Speaker #4: Tempered by slightly lower results in our automotive activity through our franchise van channel. Consolidated gross margin of 49.2% compared to 49.7% in the fourth quarter last year.
Speaker #4: The decline of 50 basis points primarily reflects higher material and other gross margin businesses within the costs, as well as higher sales and lower CNI group.
Speaker #4: These headwinds were partially offset by benefits from the company's RCI initiatives and while Snap-on is relatively advantaged in the current tariff environment, generally are cost can be affected by trade manufacturing products in the markets where they're sold policies.
Sara Verbsky: These headwinds were partially offset by benefits from the company's RCI initiatives. While Snap-on is relatively advantaged in the current tariff environment, generally manufacturing products in the markets where they're sold, our costs can be affected by trade policies. Operating expenses as a percentage of net sales of 27.7% compared to 27.6% in 2024. Operating earnings before financial services of $265.2 million in the quarter were unchanged from last year. As a percentage of net sales, operating margin before financial services of 21.5% compared to the 22.1% reported in 2024. As you may know, Snap-on operates on a fiscal calendar, which results in an additional week being added to our fiscal year every five to six years. Accordingly, the 2025 fiscal year contained 53 weeks of operating results, with the extra week relative to the prior year occurring in Q4.
Aldo Pagliari: These headwinds were partially offset by benefits from the company's RCI initiatives. While Snap-on is relatively advantaged in the current tariff environment, generally manufacturing products in the markets where they're sold, our costs can be affected by trade policies. Operating expenses as a percentage of net sales of 27.7% compared to 27.6% in 2024.
Speaker #4: Operating expenses as a percentage of net sales were 27.7%, compared to 2024. Operating earnings before financial services of $265.2 million in the quarter, at 27.6%, were unchanged from last year.
Aldo Pagliari: Operating earnings before financial services of $265.2 million in the quarter were unchanged from last year. As a percentage of net sales, operating margin before financial services of 21.5% compared to the 22.1% reported in 2024. As you may know, Snap-on operates on a fiscal calendar, which results in an additional week being added to our fiscal year every five to six years. Accordingly, the 2025 fiscal year contained 53 weeks of operating results, with the extra week relative to the prior year occurring in Q4.
Speaker #4: As a percentage of net sales, operating margin before financial services of 21.5% compared to the 22.1% reported in 2024. As you may know, Snap-on operates on a fiscal calendar which results in an fiscal year every five to six years.
Speaker #4: Accordingly, the 2025 fiscal year contained 53 weeks of operating results, with the extra week relative to the prior additional week being added to our year occurring in the fourth quarter.
Speaker #4: While the material to Snap-on's consolidated fourth quarter total revenues and net earnings, our financial services segment did earn an additional full week of interest income from its financing portfolio.
Sara Verbsky: While the impact of this additional week was not material to Snap-on's consolidated fourth quarter total revenues or net earnings, our financial services segment did earn an additional full week of interest income from its financing portfolio. At the consolidated level, the net earnings benefit from the additional week of financial services interest income was largely offset by a corresponding additional week of fixed expenses, primarily personnel-related costs. With that said, financial services revenue of $108.0 million in the fourth quarter, including $7.4 million of revenue resulting from the extra week of interest income, compared to $100.5 million last year, while operating earnings of $74.4 million compared to $66.7 million in 2024. Consolidated operating earnings of $339.6 million compared to $331.9 million last year. As a percentage of revenues, the operating earnings margin of 25.3% compared to 25.5% in 2024.
Aldo Pagliari: While the impact of this additional week was not material to Snap-on's consolidated fourth quarter total revenues or net earnings, our financial services segment did earn an additional full week of interest income from its financing portfolio. At the consolidated level, the net earnings benefit from the additional week of financial services interest income was largely offset by a corresponding additional week of fixed expenses, primarily personnel-related costs.
Speaker #4: At the consolidated income was largely offset week of financial services interest expenses, primarily personnel-related costs. With that said, financial services revenue million in the fourth quarter, including $7.4 million of revenue resulting from the extra week of interest income, level, the net earnings benefit from the additional compared to $100.5 million last year.
Aldo Pagliari: With that said, financial services revenue of $108.0 million in the fourth quarter, including $7.4 million of revenue resulting from the extra week of interest income, compared to $100.5 million last year, while operating earnings of $74.4 million compared to $66.7 million in 2024. Consolidated operating earnings of $339.6 million compared to $331.9 million last year. As a percentage of revenues, the operating earnings margin of 25.3% compared to 25.5% in 2024.
Speaker #4: While operating $66.7 million earnings of $74.4 million compared to 2024. Consolidated operating earnings of $339.6 million compared to $331.9 million last year. As a percentage of revenues, the operating earnings margin of of $108.0 25.3% compared to 25.5% in 2024.
Speaker #4: Our fourth quarter in 22.3% in 2025 and 22.5% in $260.7 million or $4.94 per diluted share 2024. Net earnings of compared to $258.1 million or $4.82 quarter.
Sara Verbsky: Our fourth quarter effective income tax rate was 22.3% in 2025 and 22.5% in 2024. Net earnings of $260.7 million or $4.94 per diluted share compared to $258.1 million or $4.82 per diluted share in 2024. Now, let's turn to our segment results for the quarter. Starting with the C&I group on slide seven, sales of $398.1 million rose $18.9 million compared to 2024 levels, reflecting a 2.8% organic sales increase and $7.9 million of favorable foreign currency translation. The organic gain includes a mid-single digit increase in activity with customers in critical industries, a double-digit rise in power tools, and a mid-single digit improvement in specialty torque. These gains were partially offset by lower sales to the United States markets by the Asia Pacific business.
Aldo Pagliari: Our fourth quarter effective income tax rate was 22.3% in 2025 and 22.5% in 2024. Net earnings of $260.7 million or $4.94 per diluted share compared to $258.1 million or $4.82 per diluted share in 2024. Now, let's turn to our segment results for the quarter. Starting with the C&I group on slide seven, sales of $398.1 million rose $18.9 million compared to 2024 levels, reflecting a 2.8% organic sales increase and $7.9 million of favorable foreign currency translation.
Speaker #4: Starting with the CNI group on 2024, slide seven. Now, let's turn to our segment results for the quarter. Sales of $398.1 million rose $18.9 million, compared to a 2.8% organic sales increase and $7.9 million of favorable foreign currency translation.
Aldo Pagliari: The organic gain includes a mid-single digit increase in activity with customers in critical industries, a double-digit rise in power tools, and a mid-single digit improvement in specialty torque. These gains were partially offset by lower sales to the United States markets by the Asia Pacific business.
Speaker #4: The organic gain includes a mid-single-digit industries, a double-digit rise in power tools, and a mid-single-digit improvement in specialty torque. These gains were partially offset by 2024 levels, reflecting a lower sales to the United States markets by the Asia-Pacific business.
Speaker #4: Overall, the organic sales gained largely reflects successful new product launches from our continued improving demand from our critical power tools operation and industry customers, including those in the United States and international aviation, heavy duty, and technical education.
Sara Verbsky: Overall, the organic sales gain largely reflects successful new product launches from our power tools operation and continued improving demand from our critical industry customers, including those in the United States and international aviation, heavy duty, and technical education. Despite delays associated with the government shutdown in October and November, sales into military and defense applications rebounded and were down only slightly for the quarter versus last year, with activity increasing as we exited the fourth quarter. Gross margin of 38.6% compared to 41% in 2024. This decline was primarily due to higher material and other costs, increased sales in lower gross margin businesses, and 30 basis points of unfavorable foreign currency effects, partially offset by savings from RCI initiatives. During the fourth quarter, the C&I group refined its footprint and go-to-market strategy, resulting in a net benefit to operating expenses of $4.5 million.
Aldo Pagliari: Overall, the organic sales gain largely reflects successful new product launches from our power tools operation and continued improving demand from our critical industry customers, including those in the United States and international aviation, heavy duty, and technical education. Despite delays associated with the government shutdown in October and November, sales into military and defense applications rebounded and were down only slightly for the quarter versus last year, with activity increasing as we exited the fourth quarter.
Speaker #4: Despite delays associated with the government shutdown in October and November, sales into military and defense applications the quarter versus last year, with activity increasing as we exited the fourth quarter.
Speaker #4: Gross margin of 38.6% compared to 41% in 2024. This decline was primarily due to higher material and other costs and increased rebounded and were down only slightly for businesses and 30 basis points of unfavorable foreign currency effects, partially offset by savings from RCI initiatives.
Aldo Pagliari: Gross margin of 38.6% compared to 41% in 2024. This decline was primarily due to higher material and other costs, increased sales in lower gross margin businesses, and 30 basis points of unfavorable foreign currency effects, partially offset by savings from RCI initiatives. During the fourth quarter, the C&I group refined its footprint and go-to-market strategy, resulting in a net benefit to operating expenses of $4.5 million.
Speaker #4: During the fourth quarter, the CNI group refined its footprint and go-to-market strategy, resulting in a net benefit to operating expenses of $4.5 million. As detailed on slide seven, these actions included a net gain on the sale of a building that was sales and lower gross margin partially offset by cost to retire certain trademarks and by such, operating expenses as a percentage of sales of 23.4% in the quarter, including the net benefit, compared year.
Sara Verbsky: As detailed on slide seven, these actions included a net gain on the sale of a building that was partially offset by costs to retire certain trademarks and by restructuring charges. As such, operating expenses as a percentage of sales of 23.4% in the quarter, including the net benefit, compared to 24.3% last year. Operating earnings for the C&I group of $60.6 million compared to $63.5 million in 2024, and the operating margin of 15.2% compared to 16.7% last year. Now, turning to slide eight, sales in the Snap-on Tools group of $505 million compared to $506.6 million last year, reflecting a 0.7% organic sales decline, largely offset by $1.8 million of favorable foreign currency translation. The organic decrease reflects a low single-digit decline in the United States, partially offset by a high single-digit gain in the segment's international operations.
Aldo Pagliari: As detailed on slide seven, these actions included a net gain on the sale of a building that was partially offset by costs to retire certain trademarks and by restructuring charges. As such, operating expenses as a percentage of sales of 23.4% in the quarter, including the net benefit, compared to 24.3% last year. Operating earnings for the C&I group of $60.6 million compared to $63.5 million in 2024, and the operating margin of 15.2% compared to 16.7% last year.
Speaker #4: to 24.3% last CNI group of $60.6 million compared Operating earnings for the to $63.5 million in 15.2% compared to 16.7% last year. Now, turning to slide eight.
Aldo Pagliari: Now, turning to slide eight, sales in the Snap-on Tools group of $505 million compared to $506.6 million last year, reflecting a 0.7% organic sales decline, largely offset by $1.8 million of favorable foreign currency translation. The organic decrease reflects a low single-digit decline in the United States, partially offset by a high single-digit gain in the segment's international operations.
Speaker #4: Sales in the Snap-on Tools group of $505 million compared to $506.6 million last year, reflecting a 7/10 of a percent organic sales decline largely offset by $1.8 million of favorable foreign currency translation.
Speaker #4: The organic decrease reflects a low single-digit decline in the United States, partially offset by a high single-digit gain in the segment's international operations. During the quarter, we believe our ongoing pivot to featuring the benefits of shorter the persistent uncertainty of technician customers in the current payback items continued to mitigate environment.
Sara Verbsky: During the quarter, we believe our ongoing pivot to featuring the benefits of shorter payback items continued to mitigate the persistent uncertainty of technician customers in the current environment. Gross margin improved 150 basis points to 46.1% in the quarter from 44.6% last year, mostly due to a year-over-year shift in product mix, including higher sales of new products, and savings from the segment's RCI initiatives. Operating expenses as a percentage of sales of 24.9% compared to 23.5% in 2024, largely reflecting increased brand building and other costs. Operating earnings for the Snap-on Tools Group of $107.3 million compared to $106.9 million in 2024. The operating margin of 21.2% improved 10 basis points from last year. Turning to the RS&I Group, shown on slide nine, sales of $467.8 million compared to $456.6 million a year ago, reflecting a 1% organic sales increase and $6.4 million of favorable foreign currency translation.
Aldo Pagliari: During the quarter, we believe our ongoing pivot to featuring the benefits of shorter payback items continued to mitigate the persistent uncertainty of technician customers in the current environment. Gross margin improved 150 basis points to 46.1% in the quarter from 44.6% last year, mostly due to a year-over-year shift in product mix, including higher sales of new products, and savings from the segment's RCI initiatives.
Speaker #4: Gross margin improved 150 basis points to 46.1% in the quarter from 44.6% last year. Mostly due to a year-over-year shift in product mix including higher sales of new RCI initiatives.
Aldo Pagliari: Operating expenses as a percentage of sales of 24.9% compared to 23.5% in 2024, largely reflecting increased brand building and other costs. Operating earnings for the Snap-on Tools Group of $107.3 million compared to $106.9 million in 2024. The operating margin of 21.2% improved 10 basis points from last year. Turning to the RS&I Group, shown on slide nine, sales of $467.8 million compared to $456.6 million a year ago, reflecting a 1% organic sales increase and $6.4 million of favorable foreign currency translation.
Speaker #4: Operating 24.9% compared to products and savings from the segment's 23.5% in 2024 largely reflecting increased brand building and other costs. Operating earnings for the Snap-on Tools group of $107.3 million compared to $106.9 million in 2024.
Speaker #4: The operating margin of 21.2% improved 10 basis points from last year. Turning to the RS&I group shown on Sales of $467.8 million compared to $456.6 million a year ago, reflecting a 1% organic sales increase and currency translation.
Speaker #4: The $6.4 million of favorable foreign organic improvement includes low single-digit gains in activity with OEM dealerships and in sales of diagnostics and repair information products to independent repair shop owners and managers.
Sara Verbsky: The organic improvement includes low single-digit gains in activity with OEM dealerships and in sales of diagnostics and repair information products to independent repair shop owners and managers. While our undercar equipment sales were flat with last year, the business experienced improving activity in all of our product lines outside of collision repair, which continue to be down year over year. Gross margin for the RS&I group of 46.9% compared to 47% last year, and savings from RCI nearly offset the effects of tariffs and higher material costs. Operating expenses as a percentage of sales of 21.7% compared to 20.4% in 2024, largely reflecting increased activity in higher expense businesses and a rise in other costs. Operating earnings of $117.7 million compared to $121.4 million last year, the operating margin of 25.2% compared to 26.6% reported in 2024.
Aldo Pagliari: The organic improvement includes low single-digit gains in activity with OEM dealerships and in sales of diagnostics and repair information products to independent repair shop owners and managers. While our undercar equipment sales were flat with last year, the business experienced improving activity in all of our product lines outside of collision repair, which continue to be down year over year.
Speaker #4: While our undercar equipment sales were flat with last year, the business experienced improving activity in all of repair, which continued to be down year over our product lines outside of collision 47% last year and savings from RCI nearly offset the effects of tariffs and higher material slide nine.
Aldo Pagliari: Gross margin for the RS&I group of 46.9% compared to 47% last year, and savings from RCI nearly offset the effects of tariffs and higher material costs. Operating expenses as a percentage of sales of 21.7% compared to 20.4% in 2024, largely reflecting increased activity in higher expense businesses and a rise in other costs. Operating earnings of $117.7 million compared to $121.4 million last year, the operating margin of 25.2% compared to 26.6% reported in 2024.
Speaker #4: costs. Operating expenses as a percentage of sales of 21.7% compared to 20.4% in 2024 largely reflecting increased activity and higher expense businesses and a rise in other costs.
Speaker #4: Operating earnings of $117.7 million compared to $121.4 million last year. The operating margin of 25.2% compared to 26.6% reported in 2024. Now, turning to slide 10.
Sara Verbsky: Now, turning to slide 10, revenue from financial services of $108 million compared to $100.5 million last year. As previously stated, this includes $7.4 million of higher revenue resulting from a full additional week of interest income due to our 53rd week fiscal year. Financial services operating earnings of $74.4 million compared to $66.7 million in 2024, largely reflecting the additional interest income. Financial services expenses of $33.6 million compared to $33.8 million last year. As a percentage of the average financial services portfolio, expenses were 1.3% in the fourth quarters of both 2025 and 2024. In the fourth quarter, the average yield on finance receivables of 17.6% in 2025 compared to 17.7% in 2024, while the average yield on contract receivables was 9.1% in both years.
Aldo Pagliari: Now, turning to slide 10, revenue from financial services of $108 million compared to $100.5 million last year. As previously stated, this includes $7.4 million of higher revenue resulting from a full additional week of interest income due to our 53rd week fiscal year. Financial services operating earnings of $74.4 million compared to $66.7 million in 2024, largely reflecting the additional interest income.
Speaker #4: $100.5 million last year. As previously million of higher revenue resulting from a full additional week of interest income due to our 53rd week fiscal year.
Aldo Pagliari: Financial services expenses of $33.6 million compared to $33.8 million last year. As a percentage of the average financial services portfolio, expenses were 1.3% in the fourth quarters of both 2025 and 2024. In the fourth quarter, the average yield on finance receivables of 17.6% in 2025 compared to 17.7% in 2024, while the average yield on contract receivables was 9.1% in both years.
Speaker #4: 2024, while the average yield on contract receivables was 9.1% in both years. Total loan originations of $285.1 million in the fourth year, and on a year-over-year basis reflected stable originations of tool storage products.
Sara Verbsky: Total loan originations of $285.1 million in the fourth quarter were unchanged from last year, and on a year-over-year basis reflected stable originations of tool storage products. Moving to slide 11, our year-end balance sheet includes approximately $2.5 billion of gross financing receivables, with $2.2 billion from our US operation. For extended credit or finance receivables, the US 60-day plus delinquency rate of 2.1% is up 10 basis points from the fourth quarter of 2024. Additionally, it is also up 10 basis points from last quarter, reflecting the typical seasonal increase between the third and fourth quarters. Trailing 12-month net losses for the overall extended credit portfolio of $72.1 million represented 3.67% of outstandings at year-end. We believe that these portfolio performance metrics remain relatively balanced considering the current environment.
Aldo Pagliari: Total loan originations of $285.1 million in the fourth quarter were unchanged from last year, and on a year-over-year basis reflected stable originations of tool storage products. Moving to slide 11, our year-end balance sheet includes approximately $2.5 billion of gross financing receivables, with $2.2 billion from our US operation.
Speaker #4: Quarter were unchanged from last year-end. Balance sheet includes approximately financing receivables, with $2.5 billion of gross receivables. The U.S. 60-day plus operation delinquency rate of 2.1% is up for extended credit or finance, 10 basis points from the fourth quarter of 2024.
Aldo Pagliari: For extended credit or finance receivables, the US 60-day plus delinquency rate of 2.1% is up 10 basis points from the fourth quarter of 2024. Additionally, it is also up 10 basis points from last quarter, reflecting the typical seasonal increase between the third and fourth quarters. Trailing 12-month net losses for the overall extended credit portfolio of $72.1 million represented 3.67% of outstandings at year-end. We believe that these portfolio performance metrics remain relatively balanced considering the current environment.
Speaker #4: Additionally, it is also up 10 basis points from last quarter, Moving to slide 11. reflecting the typical seasonal increase Our between the third and fourth quarters.
Sara Verbsky: Now, turning to slide 12, cash provided by operating activities of $268.1 million in the quarter decreased $25.4 million from comparable 2024 levels, primarily reflecting a $52.7 million increase in net cash paid for income taxes, partially offset by a $23 million decrease in working investment. Net cash provided by investing activities of $25.9 million included proceeds from the sale of a building, a net decrease in finance receivables of $11.2 million, as well as capital expenditures of $13.5 million. Net cash used by financing activities of $204.5 million included cash dividends of $126.7 million and the repurchase of 227,000 shares of common stock for $80.4 million under our existing share repurchase programs. As of year-end, we had remaining availability to repurchase up to an additional $260 million of common stock under our existing authorizations.
Aldo Pagliari: Now, turning to slide 12, cash provided by operating activities of $268.1 million in the quarter decreased $25.4 million from comparable 2024 levels, primarily reflecting a $52.7 million increase in net cash paid for income taxes, partially offset by a $23 million decrease in working investment. Net cash provided by investing activities of $25.9 million included proceeds from the sale of a building, a net decrease in finance receivables of $11.2 million, as well as capital expenditures of $13.5 million.
Speaker #4: 12. Cash provided by operating activities of $268.1 million in the quarter decreased 25.4 million from comparable 2024 levels, primarily reflecting a 52.7 million increase in net cash paid for income taxes partially offset by a $23 million decrease in working investment.
Speaker #4: activities of $25.9 million included proceeds from the sale of a building, a net decrease in finance receivables of $11.2 million, as well as capital expenditures of $13.5 million.
Aldo Pagliari: Net cash used by financing activities of $204.5 million included cash dividends of $126.7 million and the repurchase of 227,000 shares of common stock for $80.4 million under our existing share repurchase programs. As of year-end, we had remaining availability to repurchase up to an additional $260 million of common stock under our existing authorizations.
Speaker #4: used by financing activities of $204.5 million included cash million, and the repurchase of $227,000 shares of common stock for $80.4 million under our existing share repurchase programs.
Speaker #4: availability to repurchase up to an stock under our existing additional $260 million of common authorizations. Turning to slide 13. Trade and other accounts receivables of dividends of $126.7 $881.4 million represented an increase of 65.8 million from included $25.3 translation, $19.8 million related to the previously discussed sale of a building, and a 2024 at the year-end levels, and higher mix of sales with longer payment terms.
Sara Verbsky: Turning to slide 13, trade and other accounts receivables of $881.4 million represented an increase of $65.8 million from 2024 at year-end levels and included $25.3 million of foreign currency translation, $19.8 million related to the previously discussed sale of a building, and a higher mix of sales with longer payment terms. Day sales outstanding of 67 days compared to 62 days at year-end 2024. Inventories increased by $81.8 million from 2024 year-end levels, and that included $41.4 million of foreign currency translation. On a trailing 12-month basis, inventory turns of 2.4 were the same as last year ended. Our year-end cash position of $1,624.5 million compared to $1,360.5 million at the end of 2024. In addition to our existing cash and expected cash flows from operations, we have more than $900 million available under our credit facilities.
Aldo Pagliari: Turning to slide 13, trade and other accounts receivables of $881.4 million represented an increase of $65.8 million from 2024 at year-end levels and included $25.3 million of foreign currency translation, $19.8 million related to the previously discussed sale of a building, and a higher mix of sales with longer payment terms.
Aldo Pagliari: Day sales outstanding of 67 days compared to 62 days at year-end 2024. Inventories increased by $81.8 million from 2024 year-end levels, and that included $41.4 million of foreign currency translation. On a trailing 12-month basis, inventory turns of 2.4 were the same as last year ended. Our year-end cash position of $1,624.5 million compared to $1,360.5 million at the end of 2024. In addition to our existing cash and expected cash flows from operations, we have more than $900 million available under our credit facilities.
Speaker #4: outstanding of $67 days compared to $62 days at year-end 2024. Inventories increased by 81.8 million from 2024 $41.4 million of translation. Trailing 12-month basis inventory foreign currency turned to $2.4 were the same.
Speaker #4: last year ended. Our $1,624.5 million compared to $1,360.5 million at the end of 2024. In addition to our existing cash and expected cash flows from operations, we have more than $900 million available under our credit facilities, and there were no amounts borrowed or outstanding under the credit facilities during the year, nor year-end cash position of was any commercial paper issued or outstanding in the at the end of the year.
Sara Verbsky: There were no amounts borrowed or outstanding under the credit facilities during the year, nor was any commercial paper issued or outstanding at the end of the year. That concludes my remarks on our fourth quarter performance. Now, I have a few outlook items for 2026. With respect to corporate cost, we currently believe that the expenses will approximate $28 million each quarter. We expect that capital expenditures for the year will approximate $100 million, and we currently anticipate that our full year 2026 effective income tax rate will be in the range of 22% to 23%. I'll now turn the call back to Nick for his closing thoughts. Nick? Thanks, Aldo. Well, that's the quarter. Sales growth, solid profitability, and expanded investments in fortifying our inherent advantages. All in a time of turbulence, tariffs, shutdowns, and conflicts, considerable uncertainty. C&I sales were up 5% as reported, 2.8% organically.
Aldo Pagliari: There were no amounts borrowed or outstanding under the credit facilities during the year, nor was any commercial paper issued or outstanding at the end of the year. That concludes my remarks on our fourth quarter performance. Now, I have a few outlook items for 2026. With respect to corporate cost, we currently believe that the expenses will approximate $28 million each quarter.
Speaker #4: quarter performance. Now, I have a few outlook items for 2026. With respect to corporate cost, we currently believe that the expenses will approximate $28 million each quarter.
Aldo Pagliari: We expect that capital expenditures for the year will approximate $100 million, and we currently anticipate that our full year 2026 effective income tax rate will be in the range of 22% to 23%. I'll now turn the call back to Nick for his closing thoughts. Nick? Thanks, Aldo. Well, that's the quarter. Sales growth, solid profitability, and expanded investments in fortifying our inherent advantages. All in a time of turbulence, tariffs, shutdowns, and conflicts, considerable uncertainty. C&I sales were up 5% as reported, 2.8% organically.
Speaker #4: We expect that capital expenditures for the year will approximate $100 million. And we currently anticipate that our full year 2026 effective income tax rate will be in the range of 22% to 23%. That concludes my remarks on our fourth quarter. As of year-end, we had remaining day sales. Net cash provided by investing. Net cash...
Speaker #4: I'll now turn the call back to Nick for his
Speaker #4: closing thoughts. Thanks, Nick?
Speaker #2: growth, solid profitability, and expanded Aldo. Well, that's the quarter. Sales investments in fortifying our inherent advantages. All in a time of turbulence, tariffs, shutdowns, and conflicts, considerable uncertainty.
Speaker #2: CNI sales were up 5% as reported, 2.8% organically, a late comeback for critical industries, recovering some of the shutdown impact great and great new products in power tools and specialty torque tools group.
Sara Verbsky: A late comeback for critical industries, recovering some of the shutdown impact, and great new products in power tools and specialty torque. Tools Group volume down 0.3% as reported, 0.7% organically, about flat. OI margin of 21.2% up 10 basis points, and gross margins of 46.1% up 150 basis points against the impact of higher material costs and inflation. RS&I sales up 2.5% as reported, 1% organically. OI margins down but still strong at 25.2%, and gross margins about flat, resistant to the pressure of cost rises and tariffs, making gains on our advantage in both software and data. It all came together for diluted EPS of $4.94, up from the $4.82 reported last year. It was, as I said many times this call, an encouraging quarter. Going forward, we believe we'll benefit from our continuous investment in building our advantages.
Aldo Pagliari: A late comeback for critical industries, recovering some of the shutdown impact, and great new products in power tools and specialty torque. Tools Group volume down 0.3% as reported, 0.7% organically, about flat. OI margin of 21.2% up 10 basis points, and gross margins of 46.1% up 150 basis points against the impact of higher material costs and inflation. RS&I sales up 2.5% as reported, 1% organically.
Speaker #2: Volume down 0.3% as reported, 0.7% organically, about flat. OI margin of 21.2%, up 10 basis points, and gross margins of 150 basis points against the impact of higher material costs and inflation.
Speaker #2: And RS&I sales reported up 1% organically. OI 25.2%, and gross margins about flat, up 2.5%, as resistance to the pressure of cost rises and tariffs.
Aldo Pagliari: OI margins down but still strong at 25.2%, and gross margins about flat, resistant to the pressure of cost rises and tariffs, making gains on our advantage in both software and data. It all came together for diluted EPS of $4.94, up from the $4.82 reported last year. It was, as I said many times this call, an encouraging quarter. Going forward, we believe we'll benefit from our continuous investment in building our advantages.
Speaker #2: Making gains on our advantage in it all came together for diluted EPS of $4.94, up from the $4.82 reported last year.
Speaker #2: It was, as I said, many times this call, an encouraging quarter. Going forward, we investment in building our believe we'll benefit from our continuous advantages.
Speaker #2: The uncertainty appears to be in for both software and data. a thaw, and we believe the resilience continue essential and critical of our markets will as they are.
Sara Verbsky: The uncertainty appears to be in for the long haul, and we believe the resilience of our markets will continue, essential and critical as they are. We are building our advantages, and they are all our advantages, and they are powerful. With our advantage in product, our tools really do solve critical tasks, and we have more than 85,000 of them with new entries always coming. Our advantages in brand. Snap-on really is the outward sign of pride and dignity of working men and women taking their professions. It's a respected and preferred name. And with our advantages in people, skilled, committed, battle-tested, and enlisted in the expectation of success as a standard, we believe these strengths will set us apart, will enable us to overcome the turbulence, and will drive Snap-on to extend its positive trajectory throughout this year and well beyond.
Aldo Pagliari: The uncertainty appears to be in for the long haul, and we believe the resilience of our markets will continue, essential and critical as they are. We are building our advantages, and they are all our advantages, and they are powerful. With our advantage in product, our tools really do solve critical tasks, and we have more than 85,000 of them with new entries always coming. Our advantages in brand.
Speaker #2: We are invest—we are building our advantages, and they are in our all, and our advantages, and they are powerful. With our advantage in product, our tools really do solve critical tasks, and we have more than 85,000 of them, with new entries always coming.
Speaker #2: Our advantages in brand Snap-on really is the outward sign of pride and dignity of working that working men and women take in their professions.
Aldo Pagliari: Snap-on really is the outward sign of pride and dignity of working men and women taking their professions. It's a respected and preferred name. And with our advantages in people, skilled, committed, battle-tested, and enlisted in the expectation of success as a standard, we believe these strengths will set us apart, will enable us to overcome the turbulence, and will drive Snap-on to extend its positive trajectory throughout this year and well beyond.
Speaker #2: It's a respected and preferred and preferred name. And with our advantages in people, skill, committed, battle-tested, and enlisted in the expectation of success as a standard.
Speaker #2: We believe these strengths will set us apart, will enable us to overcome the its positive trajectory throughout turbulence, and will drive snap on to extend this year and well over to the operator, I'll just speak directly to our franchisees and beyond.
Sara Verbsky: Before I turn the call over to the operator, I'll just speak directly to our franchisees and associates. When I refer to our advantages, both now and in the future, I think of you. The quarter was encouraging, and your conviction and hard work has made it so. For your success, once again, in authoring another positive performance, you have my congratulations. For the intense energy and extraordinary capability you bring to bear every day, you have my admiration. And for your continued commitment to our team and your unfailing confidence in our shared future, you have my thanks. Now, I'll turn the call over to the operator. Operator?
Aldo Pagliari: Before I turn the call over to the operator, I'll just speak directly to our franchisees and associates. When I refer to our advantages, both now and in the future, I think of you. The quarter was encouraging, and your conviction and hard work has made it so. For your success, once again, in authoring another positive performance, you have my congratulations.
Speaker #2: associates. When I refer to our advantages, both now and in the future, I think of Before I turn the call you. The quarter was encouraging.
Speaker #2: And your conviction and hard work has made it so. For your success, once again, in authoring another positive performance, you have my congratulations. For the intense energy and extraordinary capability you bring to bear every day, you have my admiration.
Aldo Pagliari: For the intense energy and extraordinary capability you bring to bear every day, you have my admiration. And for your continued commitment to our team and your unfailing confidence in our shared future, you have my thanks. Now, I'll turn the call over to the operator. Operator?
Speaker #2: And for your continued commitment to our team, in your unfailing confidence in our shared future, you have my thanks. Now, I'll turn the call over to the operator.
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Speaker #3: Go ahead. Good morning, and thanks for
Nick Pinchuk: Good morning, and thanks for taking my questions.
Scott Stember: Good morning, and thanks for taking my questions.
Speaker #4: taking my
Speaker #4: taking my questions. Mr. Scott Stumber, how are
Sara Verbsky: Mr. Scott Stember, how are you?
Sara Verbsky: Mr. Scott Stember, how are you?
Speaker #4: Good, thank you. Thank you. You? Hope it's the same for you. Question on the Tools Group. We saw a little bit of a rebound in the previous couple of quarters, and we turned a little bit negative here.
Nick Pinchuk: Good. Thank you. Thank you. Hope it'll be the same for you. Question on the tools group. We saw a little bit of a rebound in the previous couple of quarters, and we turned a little bit negative here. Just trying to get a sense, are you seeing any increased level of technician softness, or is this you guys just having a greater availability of these quicker payback items, and we're just seeing a little bit more of a mix towards the lower payback items?
Scott Stember: Good. Thank you. Thank you. Hope it'll be the same for you. Question on the tools group. We saw a little bit of a rebound in the previous couple of quarters, and we turned a little bit negative here. Just trying to get a sense, are you seeing any increased level of technician softness, or is this you guys just having a greater availability of these quicker payback items, and we're just seeing a little bit more of a mix towards the lower payback items?
Speaker #4: Just trying to get a sense, are you seeing any increased level of technician softness, or is this you guys just having a greater availability of these quicker payback items?
Speaker #4: And we're just seeing a little bit more of a mix towards the lower.
Speaker #5: Actually, that's a great question. Look, I about flat. We're up a little bit the last time think this. I think it's so you could look at that as a back, but we don't see it that way.
Sara Verbsky: Actually, that's a great question. Look, I think this. I think it's about flat. We were up a little bit the last time, so you could look at that as back. But we don't see it that way. We see that the quarter was pretty turbulent. You might think that the shutdown doesn't affect the tools group, but you should have been there talking to the franchisees of Maryland and Virginia. They didn't think it had any effect. They didn't think it was a no-effect situation. Then the tariffs are getting pretty turbulent. You just think about Canada. There have been 29 different presidential or prime minister pronunciations since the beginning of the year about changing the tariffs with Canada, and the other tariffs are not the way they are. Then you have this news.
Nick Pinchuk: Actually, that's a great question. Look, I think this. I think it's about flat. We were up a little bit the last time, so you could look at that as back. But we don't see it that way. We see that the quarter was pretty turbulent. You might think that the shutdown doesn't affect the tools group, but you should have been there talking to the franchisees of Maryland and Virginia.
Speaker #5: We see that the quarter was pretty turbulent. You might think that the shutdown doesn't affect the tools group, but you should have been there talking to the franchisees of Maryland and think it had any effect.
Nick Pinchuk: They didn't think it had any effect. They didn't think it was a no-effect situation. Then the tariffs are getting pretty turbulent. You just think about Canada. There have been 29 different presidential or prime minister pronunciations since the beginning of the year about changing the tariffs with Canada, and the other tariffs are not the way they are. Then you have this news.
Speaker #5: They didn't think it was a no-effect situation. the tariffs are getting pretty turbulent, and you just think And then about Canada. There have been 29 different presidential or prime minister pronunciations since the beginning of the year about changing the tariffs are not the way they are.
Speaker #5: And then you have this news. Every time you get up in the—you look at the news, you see things, so that affected their—I think their general view. And then we heard a little bit about that.
Sara Verbsky: Every time you get up and you look at the notes, you see things. So that affected their, I think, their general view, and then we heard a little bit about that. So I think that was part of it. Now, I think I said in the call, I think sooner or later, our people got to get used to this, so you could kind of expect a thought coming. You saw green shoots, I think, in one in the originations, and the originations being kind of flattish year over year, down a little bit. But that's better than it's been. So you kind of believe that, boy, that's a change, and part of it is pivot, but some of it may be some thought. So we see that.
Nick Pinchuk: Every time you get up and you look at the notes, you see things. So that affected their, I think, their general view, and then we heard a little bit about that. So I think that was part of it. Now, I think I said in the call, I think sooner or later, our people got to get used to this, so you could kind of expect a thought coming.
Speaker #5: So I think that was part of it. Now, I think I said in the in the call, I think sooner or later, our people got to get used to this.
Speaker #5: thaw coming. You saw it So you could kind of expect a in one in green shoots, I think, the originations. In the But that's better than it's been.
Nick Pinchuk: You saw green shoots, I think, in one in the originations, and the originations being kind of flattish year over year, down a little bit. But that's better than it's been. So you kind of believe that, boy, that's a change, and part of it is pivot, but some of it may be some thought. So we see that. And then one of the things I think that's eye-popping, I said so in the call, is, geez, in this time, your gross margins are up 150 basis points. Wowza. So whatever the tools group is doing and executing, they're doing pretty well within the conditions they've been handed.
Speaker #5: you kind of believe that, originations, be it kind of boy, things are that's So a change. And part of it flattish, year over year, down a little be some thaw.
Speaker #5: So we see that. And then one of the things I think that's eye-popping, I said so in the call, is, geez, in this bit.
Sara Verbsky: And then one of the things I think that's eye-popping, I said so in the call, is, geez, in this time, your gross margins are up 150 basis points. Wowza. So whatever the tools group is doing and executing, they're doing pretty well within the conditions they've been handed.
Speaker #5: time, your gross margins are up 150 basis points. Wowza. So whatever the tools group is doing and executing, they're doing pretty well within the conditions they've been handed.
Speaker #4: Gotcha. And I think you alluded to tool storage, actually. I think you said it was kind of flattish in the quarter. Can you talk about actual hand tools, diagnostics—just some of the other subsegments?
Nick Pinchuk: Gotcha. And I think you alluded to tool storage, actually. I think you said it was kind of flattish in the quarter. Could you talk about actual hand tools, diagnostics, just some of the other subsegments?
Nick Pinchuk: Gotcha. And I think you alluded to tool storage, actually. I think you said it was kind of flattish in the quarter. Could you talk about actual hand tools, diagnostics, just some of the other subsegments?
Speaker #5: Sure. Look, I'm not going to give you exact numbers. I don't want to pin myself to that cross. But I the tool storage is up.
Sara Verbsky: Sure. Look, I'm not going to give you exact numbers. I don't want to pin myself to that cross. But I think, look, I didn't really say that tool storage is up. I said that. Originations, which is not what the tools group does. Remember, the tools group sells to the franchisee, and the franchisee on-sells, and that becomes an origination. So the originations are more an indication of what's happening at the level between the franchisee and the customer. So that was sort of flattish, which is all the same positives I said. The tool storage was still down some year over year in the tools group selling to the franchisees. Hand tools was better. Diagnostics was down. Power tools was up.
Sara Verbsky: Sure. Look, I'm not going to give you exact numbers. I don't want to pin myself to that cross. But I think, look, I didn't really say that tool storage is up. I said that. Originations, which is not what the tools group does. Remember, the tools group sells to the franchisee, and the franchisee on-sells, and that becomes an origination.
Speaker #5: think, look, I didn't really say I said that originations were just not what the tools group does. Remember, tools group sells to the franchisee, and the and that becomes an franchisee on sells more an indication of what's happening at the level between the franchisee and the customer.
Sara Verbsky: So the originations are more an indication of what's happening at the level between the franchisee and the customer. So that was sort of flattish, which is all the same positives I said. The tool storage was still down some year over year in the tools group selling to the franchisees. Hand tools was better. Diagnostics was down. Power tools was up.
Speaker #5: of flattish, which origination. So that was sort is all the same positives I said. So the originations are The tool storage was still down some, year over year, in the tools group selling to the franchisees.
Speaker #5: was up.
Speaker #4: okay. Sorry about that. Oh, question. Sales onto the van versus off of the
Nick Pinchuk: Okay. Sorry about that. Just last question. Sales onto the van versus off of the van?
Scott Stember: Okay. Sorry about that. Just last question. Sales onto the van versus off of the van?
Speaker #4: van?
Speaker #5: I hate talking about this, Hand tools was better. Scott. significant, really, fully Because no month is significant. We always say that you have a lot of variations from month to month, but it all comes out in a wash in the end.
Sara Verbsky: I hate talking about this, Scott, because no month is significant, really, fully significant. We always say that you have a lot of variations from month to month, but it all comes out in a wash in the end. Generally, what we sell on the van equals what we sell up. This quarter, sales were up kind of substantially bigger. I don't know if you'd call it substantial, but clearly, with quite a bit of room, bigger off the van than our sales to the van. So I think that's a better. I would say that's a nice data point, better than a poker than I would a sharp stick, but I'm not going to hang my hat on it. It is, if you want to classify green shoots, maybe this is a green shoot. I just hope the rabbits don't eat the green shoot.
Nick Pinchuk: I hate talking about this, Scott, because no month is significant, really, fully significant. We always say that you have a lot of variations from month to month, but it all comes out in a wash in the end. Generally, what we sell on the van equals what we sell up. This quarter, sales were up kind of substantially bigger.
Speaker #5: And generally, what we sell on the van equals what we sell up. But this quarter, sales were up over kind of substantially bigger I don't know if you call it clearly, clearly with quite a bit of room bigger off the van than our sales to the van.
Nick Pinchuk: I don't know if you'd call it substantial, but clearly, with quite a bit of room, bigger off the van than our sales to the van. So I think that's a better. I would say that's a nice data point, better than a poker than I would a sharp stick, but I'm not going to hang my hat on it. It is, if you want to classify green shoots, maybe this is a green shoot. I just hope the rabbits don't eat the green shoot. But I think it's a positive thing.
Speaker #5: So I think that's a better, I would say that's a nice data point—better than a poke in the eye with a sharp hat on it.
Speaker #5: But it is, if you want to classify green shoots, maybe this is a green shoot. I just shoot. But I think it's a positive.
Sara Verbsky: But I think it's a positive thing.
Speaker #5: thing. Got it.
Speaker #4: great. Thank you so That's
Nick Pinchuk: Got it. That's great. Thank you so much.
Nick Pinchuk: Got it. That's great. Thank you so much.
Speaker #4: much.
Speaker #5: Sure.
Aldo Pagliari: Sure.
Aldo Pagliari: Sure.
[Company Representative] (Snap-on Incorporated): The next question comes from Luke Junk with Baird. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #3: Please go Luke Junk with Baird. Good morning.
Speaker #6: Thanks for taking the question. Maybe if you could just jump off
Luke Junk: Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe if you could just jump off on one of the things you just said, Nick, diagnostics. I think you said it was down in the tools group in the quarter. Can we just maybe double-click on that? I'm not sure if we should think there is some pull forward just from the launch strength that you saw in the middle part of this year, or is there just maybe some inherent lumpiness? Can I just separate the trends a little bit?
Luke Junk: Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe if you could just jump off on one of the things you just said, Nick, diagnostics. I think you said it was down in the tools group in the quarter. Can we just maybe double-click on that? I'm not sure if we should think there is some pull forward just from the launch strength that you saw in the middle part of this year, or is there just maybe some inherent lumpiness? Can I just separate the trends a little bit?
Speaker #6: quarter. Can we just maybe double-click on that? I'm not sure if we should think there diagnostics. I think you said it was down in the tools group in the is some pull forward just from the launch strength that you saw in the middle part of this year or is there just maybe some inherent
Speaker #5: Well, there's kind of—I think it's more, look, I think it's more inherent characteristics of the launch. So in the third, lumpiness driven by the quarter, second and third quarter. Toward the end of the second quarter, we've launched the Triton.
Sara Verbsky: Well, I think it's more inherent lumpiness driven by the characteristics of the launch. So in Q3, Q2 and Q3, toward the end of the same quarter, we've launched the Triton. I think that's got a street price. I don't know. It must be $4,000, $4,500. It's a massive and powerful unit. And this quarter, we launched the MT2600, which is an entry-level thing, which is substantially lower in price. But a sale is sort of a sale to the franchisee. Yeah, maybe he has to work a little harder for the bigger ticket item, but he's still probably got to put in the same amount of time for either one. And so he does his pitch, does his show, and explains everything, and he gets $5,000 or $4,000. I think that's pretty much what you're seeing this quarter.
Nick Pinchuk: Well, I think it's more inherent lumpiness driven by the characteristics of the launch. So in Q3, Q2 and Q3, toward the end of the same quarter, we've launched the Triton. I think that's got a street price. I don't know. It must be $4,000, $4,500. It's a massive and powerful unit. And this quarter, we launched the MT2600, which is an entry-level thing, which is substantially lower in price.
Speaker #5: I think that's got a street price. I don't know. It must be 4,000, 4,500 dollars. It's a massive and powerful unit. And this quarter, we launched the hope the rabbits don't eat the green substantially lower in MT2600, which is an entry-level thing, which is price.
Speaker #5: But a sale is sort of a sale too. To work a little harder for the bigger ticket item, but not—it's still probably got to put in the same amount of time for either one.
Nick Pinchuk: But a sale is sort of a sale to the franchisee. Yeah, maybe he has to work a little harder for the bigger ticket item, but he's still probably got to put in the same amount of time for either one. And so he does his pitch, does his show, and explains everything, and he gets $5,000 or $4,000. I think that's pretty much what you're seeing this quarter.
Speaker #5: Yeah, maybe he has
Speaker #5: And so he spends it, does his pitch, does his show and explains 4,000 dollars. I think that's pretty much what everything, and he gets 1,500 dollars or you're seeing in this franchisee.
Luke Junk: Okay. Helpful. I want to switch gears to C&I, commercial and industrial. If we look a quarter ago, returned to kind of modest growth, now tracking up mid-single, exiting 2025. But it sounds like it actually maybe even was higher in December, given what you mentioned around the shutdown. Any reason to think that that momentum doesn't carry over into next year in commercial and industrial?
Luke Junk: Okay. Helpful. I want to switch gears to C&I, commercial and industrial. If we look a quarter ago, returned to kind of modest growth, now tracking up mid-single, exiting 2025. But it sounds like it actually maybe even was higher in December, given what you mentioned around the shutdown. Any reason to think that that momentum doesn't carry over into next year in commercial and industrial?
Speaker #6: gears to C&I. Critical Industries if we look a quarter ago, returned a kind of modest growth, now tracking up But it sounds like it actually maybe even was higher in December given what you mentioned around the shutdown.
Speaker #6: Any reason to think that that momentum doesn't now carry over into next year in Critical?
Speaker #6: Any reason to think that that momentum doesn't now carry over into next year in critical, okay.
Speaker #6: Any reason to think that that momentum doesn't now carry over into next year in critical Okay. Helpful.
Speaker #6: Any reason to think that that momentum doesn't now carry over into next year in critical Okay. Helpful. industries?
Sara Verbsky: Well, I think we have great optimism for our power in Critical Industries. We think our array of custom kits keeps growing, and therefore, we have a greater span of sale. Our custom kitting capacity, we keep increasing it. And one of the things I didn't fully, I suppose, tease out in this comment is that's what allowed us to catch up at the end. We really pumped it up. I mean, if you looked at October and November, it wasn't the greatest time. Then the military business, which is a nice business for them, had gone to a crawl, and then they came roaring back. Like I said, you had to see these guys out there working. The head of the division was out there in his dungareys working, packing.
Nick Pinchuk: Well, I think we have great optimism for our power in Critical Industries. We think our array of custom kits keeps growing, and therefore, we have a greater span of sale. Our custom kitting capacity, we keep increasing it. And one of the things I didn't fully, I suppose, tease out in this comment is that's what allowed us to catch up at the end.
Speaker #5: custom kits keeps growing, and therefore we have a greater span of think our array of great optimism for our sale. Our custom kitting
Speaker #5: capacity, we keep increasing it. the things I didn't fully, I And one of suppose, tease out in I want to switch allowed us to catch up at the end.
Speaker #5: We really pumped it up. I mean, if you looked at greatest time. Things had—the military business, which is a nice business for them—had gone to a crawl.
Nick Pinchuk: We really pumped it up. I mean, if you looked at October and November, it wasn't the greatest time. Then the military business, which is a nice business for them, had gone to a crawl, and then they came roaring back. Like I said, you had to see these guys out there working. The head of the division was out there in his dungareys working, packing.
Speaker #5: And then they came roaring back. Like I said, you had to see these guys out there October and November, it wasn't the working. The head of the division was out there in his dungarees working packing.
Speaker #5: So I think this is yes, you should see momentum coming out of this quarter. This is one data point that we are positive. And they didn't fully catch up.
Sara Verbsky: So, I think this is, yes, you should see momentum coming out of this quarter. Now, we don't give guidance, so this is one data point that we are positive. And they didn't fully catch up, so therefore, you would expect to have some catch-up coming out. We'll see how that plays out over three months, but I feel good about it.
Nick Pinchuk: So, I think this is, yes, you should see momentum coming out of this quarter. Now, we don't give guidance, so this is one data point that we are positive. And they didn't fully catch up, so therefore, you would expect to have some catch-up coming out. We'll see how that plays out over three months, but I feel good about it.
Speaker #5: So therefore, you would expect they'd have some catch-up coming out. We'll see how that plays out over three Now, we don't give guidance. So months.
Speaker #5: But I feel good about it.
Speaker #6: Last thing kind of coming across in both C&I and the tools group, just the power tool strength. I mean, that's been under pressure for a while here.
Luke Junk: Last thing kind of coming across in both C&I and the tools group, just the power tool strength. I mean, that's been under pressure for a while here. Pretty sharp bounce back in the quarter. Just want to unpack maybe shorter-term impacts, given the product launch momentum that you mentioned, and just maybe your historical experience in terms of the tails of that momentum leaking into future periods. Thanks, Nick.
Luke Junk: Last thing kind of coming across in both C&I and the tools group, just the power tool strength. I mean, that's been under pressure for a while here. Pretty sharp bounce back in the quarter. Just want to unpack maybe shorter-term impacts, given the product launch momentum that you mentioned, and just maybe your historical experience in terms of the tails of that momentum leaking into future periods. Thanks, Nick.
Speaker #6: Pretty sharp bounce back in the quarter. Just want to unpack maybe shorter-term impacts given the product launch momentum that you mentioned and just maybe your historical experience in terms of the tails of that momentum.
Speaker #6: Leaking into future periods. Thanks, Nick.
Speaker #5: Well, I don't know. Look, I think, again, we don't give guidance, buddy. But the last time we've launched a product like Nano, this, like the oh, years ago, it was a while ago, this is kind of the uniqueness of it.
Sara Verbsky: Well, I don't know. Look, I think, again, we don't give guidance, buddy. But the last time we launched a product like this, like the Nano, oh, years ago, it was a while ago; this is kind of the uniqueness of it. And it had quite a bit of legs. It went on for a while. It's a whole different line. So that tends to have more legs to it. If you're talking about other products like the long neck ratchet, which I didn't mention on this call, I mentioned last call, 13in of neck, 30% longer than anybody else, tremendous power at a distance. But that one can be more episodic. And so you have to sell, find the people who don't have it already if you're a franchisee. And then to some extent, it is episodic like the diagnostics.
Nick Pinchuk: Well, I don't know. Look, I think, again, we don't give guidance, buddy. But the last time we launched a product like this, like the Nano, oh, years ago, it was a while ago; this is kind of the uniqueness of it. And it had quite a bit of legs. It went on for a while. It's a whole different line. So that tends to have more legs to it.
Speaker #5: And it had quite a bit of legs. It went on for a while. It's not a whole different line, so that tends to have more legs to it.
Speaker #5: If you're talking about other products like the long neck ratchet, which I didn't mention on this call, I mentioned last call, 13 inches of neck, 30% longer than anybody else, a tremendous power at a one, it can be more episodic.
Nick Pinchuk: If you're talking about other products like the long neck ratchet, which I didn't mention on this call, I mentioned last call, 13in of neck, 30% longer than anybody else, tremendous power at a distance. But that one can be more episodic. And so you have to sell, find the people who don't have it already if you're a franchisee. And then to some extent, it is episodic like the diagnostics.
Speaker #5: And so you have to sell, find the people who don't have it already, if you're a franchisee. And then to some extent, it is episodic, like the diagnostics.
Speaker #5: I do think, though, that you're going to see that more and more in power tools today for us because there was a period when we turned our power tools engineers and some of our engineers partially away from new products and said, "This was the period in which we couldn't get components." And so you had to use engineering time to target the components that were actually you could actually get that actually were available.
Sara Verbsky: I do think, though, that you're going to see that more and more in power tools today for us because there was a period when we turned our power tools engineers and some of our engineers partially away from new products and said, "This was the period in which we couldn't get components." And so you had to use engineering time to target the components that you could actually get that actually were available. And that meant design change, and it eats up time. And so now we've got everything full strength focused on new product, and they seem to be hitting the ball out of the park with repeatability. So I feel pretty good about it. I think the Nano's got legs, but generally, power tools can be episodic.
Nick Pinchuk: I do think, though, that you're going to see that more and more in power tools today for us because there was a period when we turned our power tools engineers and some of our engineers partially away from new products and said, "This was the period in which we couldn't get components." And so you had to use engineering time to target the components that you could actually get that actually were available.
Speaker #5: And that meant design change, and it eats up time. And so now we've got everything full strength focused on new product, and they seem to be hitting the ball out of the park with repeatability.
Nick Pinchuk: And that meant design change, and it eats up time. And so now we've got everything full strength focused on new product, and they seem to be hitting the ball out of the park with repeatability. So I feel pretty good about it. I think the Nano's got legs, but generally, power tools can be episodic.
Speaker #5: So, I feel pretty good about it. I think the Nanos got legs, but generally, power tools can be episodic.
Speaker #6: Interesting. I'll leave it there. Thanks, Nick.
Luke Junk: Understood. I'll leave it there. Thanks, Nick.
Luke Junk: Understood. I'll leave it there. Thanks, Nick.
Speaker #5: Sure. The next question comes
Sara Verbsky: Sure.
Nick Pinchuk: Sure.
Speaker #3: from Sheriff El Sabahi with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
[Company Representative] (Snap-on Incorporated): The next question comes from Sherif El-Sabbahy with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Sherif El-Sabbahy with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Hi, good
Speaker #7: morning. Good morning.
Sherif El-Sabbahy: Hi. Good morning.
Sherif El-Sabbahy: Hi. Good morning. Hi. I just wanted to touch on some of the brand-building expenses that you had called out, particularly in the tools group. What exactly is embedded in those costs, and how do you expect them to look going forward? Is that sort of an ongoing cost you?
Speaker #3: Hi, I just wanted to confirm. Some of the
Luke Junk: Hi. I just wanted to touch on some of the brand-building expenses that you had called out, particularly in the tools group. What exactly is embedded in those costs, and how do you expect them to look going forward? Is that sort of an ongoing cost you?
Speaker #3: brand-building expenses that you had called out, particularly in the tools group. What exactly is embedded in those costs, and how do you expect them to how do you expect them to look going forward?
Speaker #3: Is that sort of an ongoing—
Speaker #3: cost you? Well, I'm not going to give you exactly what's in
Sara Verbsky: Well, I'm not going to give you exactly what's in the cost because you'll be asking me how much I'm spending every quarter on each of those categories. I'm not going to say that. But look, here's the kinds of things we worked on. We worked on training. This is the kind of thing, training, in our business. We worked some on advertising for the brand. The advertising is up. We worked on building software, which spreads across this business and the RS&I business. We worked on social media, the use of social media more correctly. I mean, these guys are all individual businessmen, the 3,400 vans. And some of them are great at this stuff, and some of them are not. So we worked on those things. That was the kinds of things we spent on in the tools group.
Nick Pinchuk: Well, I'm not going to give you exactly what's in the cost because you'll be asking me how much I'm spending every quarter on each of those categories. I'm not going to say that. But look, here's the kinds of things we worked on. We worked on training. This is the kind of thing, training, in our business. We worked some on advertising for the brand.
Speaker #7: The cost. Because you'll be asking me how much I'm spending every quarter on each of those categories. I'm not going to say that. But look, here's the kinds of things we worked on.
Speaker #7: We worked on training. This is the kind of thing training in our business. We worked some on advertising for the brand, the advertising is up.
Nick Pinchuk: The advertising is up. We worked on building software, which spreads across this business and the RS&I business. We worked on social media, the use of social media more correctly. I mean, these guys are all individual businessmen, the 3,400 vans. And some of them are great at this stuff, and some of them are not. So we worked on those things. That was the kinds of things we spent on in the tools group.
Speaker #7: We worked on building software, which spreads across this business and the RS&I business. We worked on social media, the use of social media more correctly.
Speaker #7: I mean, these guys are all individual businessmen—the 3,400 vans. And some of them are great at this stuff, and some of them are not.
Speaker #7: So we worked on those things. That's the kind of things we spent on in the Tools Group.
Speaker #3: Understood. And I know the 53rd week wasn't necessarily impactful to the financials. Are you able to give us sort of a ring fence the size of it and the impact of the year?
[Company Representative] (Snap-on Incorporated): Understood. I know the 53rd week wasn't necessarily impactful to the financials. Are you able to give us sort of a ring fence the size of it and the impact of the year?
Sherif El-Sabbahy: Understood. I know the 53rd week wasn't necessarily impactful to the financials. Are you able to give us sort of a ring fence the size of it and the impact of the year?
Speaker #7: Sure. One thing you’ve got to know—it’s vastly different between the financial company and the operating company. For the financial company, it’s a bonanza.
Sara Verbsky: Sure. One thing you got to know, it's vastly different between the financial company and the operating company. For the financial company, it's a bonanza. I think Aldo said it's like $7 million extra profit. That was pretty much 53rd week. But if you look at the operating companies, you got to understand where it is, and it's during the Christmas, the holiday period. And these are expenseful, sales-weak periods. So it generally is a loser. You have a lot of the expenses flowed through your P&L. They're just there like clockwork, and you don't get any sales. That's what happens. So they're a negative. I will tell you that when you roll that out, it's not what do we call it? It's not significant. It's not a significant thing for us. But it's a little bit of a weight, actually, a little bit of a negative, but not significant.
Nick Pinchuk: Sure. One thing you got to know, it's vastly different between the financial company and the operating company. For the financial company, it's a bonanza. I think Aldo said it's like $7 million extra profit. That was pretty much 53rd week. But if you look at the operating companies, you got to understand where it is, and it's during the Christmas, the holiday period.
Speaker #7: I think Aldo said it's like $7 million extra profit. That was pretty much 53rd week. But if you look at the operating companies, you got to understand where it is, and it's during the Christmas the holiday period.
Speaker #7: And these are expense-full sales weeks. Periods. So it generally is a loser. You have most—you have a lot of the expenses flowed through your P&L.
Nick Pinchuk: And these are expenseful, sales-weak periods. So it generally is a loser. You have a lot of the expenses flowed through your P&L. They're just there like clockwork, and you don't get any sales. That's what happens. So they're a negative. I will tell you that when you roll that out, it's not what do we call it? It's not significant. It's not a significant thing for us. But it's a little bit of a weight, actually, a little bit of a negative, but not significant.
Speaker #7: They're just there like clockwork. And you don't get any sales. That's what happens. So they're a negative. I will tell you that when you roll that out, it's not, what do we call it?
Speaker #7: It's not significant. It's not a significant thing for us. Maybe, yeah, but it's a little bit of a weight, actually—a little bit of a negative, but not...
Speaker #3: from David McGregor with Longbow Research. Please go
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Operator: The next question comes from David MacGregor with Longbow Research. Please go ahead.
Speaker #3: ahead. Yes, good
Speaker #8: morning, everyone.
Nick Pinchuk: Yes. Good morning, everyone. Nick, I guess I wanted to hey, good morning. I wanted to just ask you about last quarter. We had talked about the SFC, and you had said there were great orders. You were up mid-single digits, but that we're not getting money. I think that was the exact quote. You're not getting much of that at all. So I guess I'm having trouble reconciling that with essentially flat second half, sort of Snap-on Tools segment organic growth. Can you just understand the dynamics also? Maybe what you saw in the way of one quarter growth in the non-SFC fulfillment business?
Sherif El-Sabbahy: Yes. Good morning, everyone.
Nick Pinchuk: Nick,
Sherif El-Sabbahy: I guess I wanted to hey, good morning. I wanted to just ask you about last quarter. We had talked about the SFC, and you had said there were great orders. You were up mid-single digits, but that we're not getting money. I think that was the exact quote. You're not getting much of that at all. So I guess I'm having trouble reconciling that with essentially flat second half, sort of Snap-on Tools segment organic growth. Can you just understand the dynamics also? Maybe what you saw in the way of one quarter growth in the non-SFC fulfillment business?
Speaker #8: Nick, I guess I wanted to hey, good Good morning. morning. I wanted to just ask you about last quarter. We had talked about the SFC, and you had said there were great orders.
Speaker #8: You were up mid-single digits. But we're not getting money—I think that was the exact quote. You're not getting much of that at all.
Speaker #8: So I guess I'm having trouble reconciling that with essentially flat second half. So snap on tool segment organic growth. Can you help us understand that dynamic and also maybe what you saw on the way up last quarter growth and the non-SFC fulfillment business?
Speaker #7: Yeah. Look, I think remember, I think I say that the SFC are orders, not sales. So
Sara Verbsky: Yeah. Look, I think, remember, I think I say that the SFC are orders, not sales, so there could be a cancellation.
Sara Verbsky: Yeah. Look, I think, remember, I think I say that the SFC are orders, not sales, so there could be a cancellation.
Speaker #7: They're cancellations. No, but you fulfill in the second.
Nick Pinchuk: No, I understand. But you fulfill in the second half, Nick.
Nick Pinchuk: No, I understand. But you fulfill in the second half, Nick.
Speaker #7: No, and half, Nick. so what second half? I don't know. Do you mean the second half or the quarter? Or the
Sara Verbsky: And so, what second half? I don't know. Do you mean the second half of the quarter or the fourth quarter?
Sara Verbsky: And so, what second half? I don't know. Do you mean the second half of the quarter or the fourth quarter?
Speaker #7: fourth quarter? The second half of the
Nick Pinchuk: The second half of the year.
Nick Pinchuk: The second half of the year.
Speaker #7: Oh, well, the second half of year. the year is not supported by the SFC. much starts The SFC pretty to blink out in terms of effect just as you cross over the year ends.
Sara Verbsky: Oh, well, the second half of the year is not supported by the SFC. The SFC pretty much starts to blink out in terms of effect just as you cross over the year ends. So there isn't an effect. You see what I mean? It's all in the half. So you could ask why we didn't do better in the fourth quarter if we had mid-single digits in the SFC. And that's because the actual orders end up being a cocktail of about three things. There are the SFC for that half that we refer to. There's the kickoff for the second half, the big bang event. And then there are a bunch of usual programs that flow out at different times. They're big promotions. And then there's the monthly meetings for the franchisees that roll out promotions in each one of those.
Sara Verbsky: Oh, well, the second half of the year is not supported by the SFC. The SFC pretty much starts to blink out in terms of effect just as you cross over the year ends. So there isn't an effect. You see what I mean? It's all in the half. So you could ask why we didn't do better in the fourth quarter if we had mid-single digits in the SFC. And that's because the actual orders end up being a cocktail of about three things. There are the SFC for that half that we refer to. There's the kickoff for the second half, the big bang event. And then there are a bunch of usual programs that flow out at different times. They're big promotions. And then there's the monthly meetings for the franchisees that roll out promotions in each one of those.
Speaker #7: So there isn't an effect you see what I mean? It's all in the half. So you could ask why we didn't do better in the fourth quarter if we had mid-single digits in the SFC.
Speaker #7: And that's because the actual orders end up being a cocktail of about three things. There are the SFC for that half that we refer to.
Speaker #7: There's the kickoff for the second half, the big bang event. And then there are a bunch of usual programs that flow out at different times.
Speaker #7: They're big promotions. And then there's the monthly meetings for the franchisees that roll out promotions in each one of those. So the combination of those is what makes the quarter.
Sara Verbsky: So the combination of those is what makes the quarter. So if you say that the SFC orders were 5.8%, it was mid-single digits. And okay, you're not necessarily going to get those. They could be canceled, but they could all be taken up. And you could have weakness in one of the promotions or just everybody say every month, "Well, I got enough. I'm not going to take anything this month," or, "I'm going to take a lot less this month." That's what makes it so hard to predict. Now, SFC and kickoff, you feel good if you get more orders, but it's not definitive. I think I say that when this happens. So that's a look at it. So it's a cocktail of a bunch of different selling efforts that result in the flat quarter.
Sara Verbsky: So the combination of those is what makes the quarter. So if you say that the SFC orders were 5.8%, it was mid-single digits. And okay, you're not necessarily going to get those. They could be canceled, but they could all be taken up. And you could have weakness in one of the promotions or just everybody say every month, "Well, I got enough. I'm not going to take anything this month," or, "I'm going to take a lot less this month." That's what makes it so hard to predict. Now, SFC and kickoff, you feel good if you get more orders, but it's not definitive. I think I say that when this happens. So that's a look at it. So it's a cocktail of a bunch of different selling efforts that result in the flat quarter.
Speaker #7: So if you say that the SFC orders were 5.8% was like mid-single digits, and okay, you're not really you're not necessarily going to get those.
Speaker #7: They could be canceled, but they could all be taken up. And you could have weakness in one of the promotions, or just everybody say every month, 'Well, I got enough.'
Speaker #7: I'm not going to take anything this month." Or, "I'm going to take a lot less this month." That's what makes it so hard to predict.
Speaker #7: Now, SFC and kickoff, you feel good if you get more orders. But it's not definitive. I think I say that when this happens. So that's a look at it.
Speaker #7: So it's a cocktail of a bunch of different selling efforts. That result in the flat
Speaker #7: So, it's a cocktail of a bunch of different selling efforts that result in the flat quarter. Yeah.
Speaker #8: Maybe I'll follow up with you offline on that. Is there anything you can say about the regional kickoffs, Nick, and how they're
Nick Pinchuk: Yeah. Maybe I'll follow up with you offline on that. Is there anything you can say about the regional kickoffs, Nick, and how they're going?
Nick Pinchuk: Yeah. Maybe I'll follow up with you offline on that. Is there anything you can say about the regional kickoffs, Nick, and how they're going?
Speaker #7: Well, they're over. First of
Sara Verbsky: Well, they're over, first of all, so.
Sara Verbsky: Well, they're over, first of all, so.
Speaker #7: all, so. They're behind No, I know they're over.
Nick Pinchuk: No, I know they're over.
Nick Pinchuk: No, I know they're over.
Speaker #7: Us. I'm asking how they went. Okay. They were in the first quarter. So don't comment on future. But the one I went to was very positive.
Sara Verbsky: They're behind us.
Sara Verbsky: They're behind us.
Nick Pinchuk: I'm asking how they went.
Nick Pinchuk: I'm asking how they went.
Sara Verbsky: Okay. They were in the first quarter, so don't comment on future. But the one I went to was very positive. People were very enthusiastic. And I would say that our reports from around the country, Aldo went to one, and his was similarly positive. So we think they came out well. I think the orders were reasonably robust, but like the SFC, they're not definitive. So if you were just going to base your view of the future on the kickoffs, you would feel pretty good. I think what I'd say, David, is more or less that this was a particularly turbulent time in terms of uncertainty. But if you look at the gross margins, the execution seems to be pretty good.
Sara Verbsky: Okay. They were in the first quarter, so don't comment on future. But the one I went to was very positive. People were very enthusiastic. And I would say that our reports from around the country, Aldo went to one, and his was similarly positive. So we think they came out well. I think the orders were reasonably robust, but like the SFC, they're not definitive. So if you were just going to base your view of the future on the kickoffs, you would feel pretty good. I think what I'd say, David, is more or less that this was a particularly turbulent time in terms of uncertainty. But if you look at the gross margins, the execution seems to be pretty good.
Speaker #7: People were very enthusiastic. And I would say that our reports from around the country—Aldo went to one, and his was similarly positive. So, we think they came out well.
Speaker #7: I think the orders were reasonably robust. But, like the SFC, they're not definitive. So, if you were just going to base your view of the future on the kickoffs, you would feel pretty good.
Speaker #7: I think what I'd say, David, is more or less that this was a particularly turbulent time in terms of uncertainty. But if you look at the gross margins, or if you look at execution, it seems to be pretty good.
Speaker #7: If you the originations, it seems like the pivot is working because people buy in some of those small boxes. At least off the ban.
Sara Verbsky: If you look at the originations, it seems like the pivot is working because people buy in some of those small boxes, at least off the van. If you look at the sales off the van and you say, "Well, yeah, it's only one quarter, but it's better than the sales to the van," that seems like a positive. And if you look at the nature of the world, you wonder if people aren't getting tired of being uncertain and things won't go off. So I think we're kind of optimistic going forward.
Sara Verbsky: If you look at the originations, it seems like the pivot is working because people buy in some of those small boxes, at least off the van. If you look at the sales off the van and you say, "Well, yeah, it's only one quarter, but it's better than the sales to the van," that seems like a positive. And if you look at the nature of the world, you wonder if people aren't getting tired of being uncertain and things won't go off. So I think we're kind of optimistic going forward.
Speaker #7: If you look at the sales off the ban, and you say, "Well, yeah, it's only one quarter, but it's better than the sales to the van," that seems like a positive.
Speaker #7: And if you look at the nature of the world, you wonder if people aren't getting tired of being uncertain, and things won't go up.
Speaker #7: So I think we're kind of optimistic going forward.
Speaker #7: forward. Okay.
Speaker #8: Last question for me is just on the balance sheet. I mean, you got a billion sticks of cash. A little over 400 million of net cash.
Nick Pinchuk: Okay. Last question for me is just on the balance sheet. I mean, you got $1.6 billion of cash, a little over $400 million of net cash. You're generating $1 billion a year of free cash flow. I mean, you're doing an extraordinary job here. Where are you going to go with the cash? Remind us on your priorities for M&A.
Nick Pinchuk: Okay. Last question for me is just on the balance sheet. I mean, you got $1.6 billion of cash, a little over $400 million of net cash. You're generating $1 billion a year of free cash flow. I mean, you're doing an extraordinary job here. Where are you going to go with the cash? Remind us on your priorities for M&A.
Speaker #8: You're generating a billion dollars a year of free cash flow. I mean, you're doing an extraordinary job here. Where are you going to go with the cash?
Speaker #8: Remind us on your priorities for
Speaker #8: M&A. Okay.
Speaker #7: Priorities are like this. Well, as you know, I bet you, you’ve been looking at it so long you know this dead nuts. But if you look at it, we’re working capital hogs.
Sara Verbsky: Okay. The priorities are like this. Well, as you know, I bet you you've been looking at it so long, you know this dead nuts. But if you look at it, we're working capital hogs. So we always have to have a pretty good dollop of cash to make sure in case things should explode in terms of sales, we want to be ready to fund it because we are not working capital. We are not among the small working capital, great inventory turnover, for example. But that's our model. And so you got that. You got up cash for that. Then the whole thing is the dividend. As I said in my call, we have declared a dividend every year since 1939, and we have never reduced it. So we think about the perpetuity of the dividend.
Sara Verbsky: Okay. The priorities are like this. Well, as you know, I bet you you've been looking at it so long, you know this dead nuts. But if you look at it, we're working capital hogs. So we always have to have a pretty good dollop of cash to make sure in case things should explode in terms of sales, we want to be ready to fund it because we are not working capital. We are not among the small working capital, great inventory turnover, for example. But that's our model. And so you got that. You got up cash for that. Then the whole thing is the dividend. As I said in my call, we have declared a dividend every year since 1939, and we have never reduced it. So we think about the perpetuity of the dividend.
Speaker #7: So we always have to have pretty good dollar for cash to make sure. In case things should explode in terms of sales, we want to be ready to fund it because we are not working capital we're not among the small working capital.
Speaker #7: Great inventory turnover, for example. But that's our model. And so you got that. You got to have cash for that. Then the whole thing is the dividend.
Speaker #7: As I said in my call, we have declared a dividend every year since 1939, and we have never reduced it. So we think about the perpetuity of the dividend.
Speaker #7: And we think with 16 straight consecutive increases, we always look at it in those contexts. And then you've got acquisitions. We always review—we're always reviewing acquisitions.
Sara Verbsky: And we think with 16 straight consecutive increases, we always look at it in those contexts. Then you've got acquisitions. We're always reviewing acquisitions. Now, quite often, you look closer and you find out so many warts you don't want it, or it's selling into a segment we don't want. But we do look at acquisitions consistently. And we have made several over Car-O-Liner, for example, Norbar, a bunch of different things over the years. And then we look at, as Aldo took you through, I think we spent $80 million plus in share buybacks last year.
Sara Verbsky: And we think with 16 straight consecutive increases, we always look at it in those contexts. Then you've got acquisitions. We're always reviewing acquisitions. Now, quite often, you look closer and you find out so many warts you don't want it, or it's selling into a segment we don't want. But we do look at acquisitions consistently. And we have made several over Car-O-Liner, for example, Norbar, a bunch of different things over the years. And then we look at, as Aldo took you through, I think we spent $80 million plus in share buybacks last year.
Speaker #7: Now, quite often you look closer and you find out so many warts you don't want it or it's selling into a segment we don't want.
Speaker #7: But we do look at acquisitions consistently. And we have made several of the Carliner, for example, years. And then we look at, as Aldo took you through, I think we spent 80 million plus in share buybacks last
Speaker #7: year. Got
Speaker #8: It. Well, thanks very much. Good luck.
Nick Pinchuk: Got it. Well, thanks very much. Good luck.
Nick Pinchuk: Got it. Well, thanks very much. Good luck.
Speaker #7: Sure. The next question comes from
Sara Verbsky: Sure.
Sara Verbsky: Sure.
[Company Representative] (Snap-on Incorporated): The next question comes from Brett Jordan with Jefferies. Please go ahead.
[Company Representative] (Snap-on Incorporated): The next question comes from Brett Jordan with Jefferies. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Brett Jordan with Jefferies. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Hey, good morning, guys. This is Patrick Buckley on for
Speaker #7: Hey, good morning, guys. This is Patrick Buckley on for Brett. Thanks for taking our Hi. question. Within Tools Group in the US, could you talk a bit more about what you're seeing in the competitive landscape?
Patrick Buckley: Hey, good morning, guys. This is Patrick Buckley for Brett. Thanks for taking our question. Within the tools group in the US, could you talk a bit more about what you're seeing in the competitive landscape? Any notable shifts in strategies as far as pricing, mix, or marketing?
Patrick Buckley: Hey, good morning, guys. This is Patrick Buckley for Brett. Thanks for taking our question. Within the tools group in the US, could you talk a bit more about what you're seeing in the competitive landscape? Any notable shifts in strategies as far as pricing, mix, or marketing?
Speaker #7: Any notable shifts in strategies as far as pricing or mix or marketing? Why do you always ask about the competitors? That's what I want to know.
Sara Verbsky: Why do you always ask about the competitors? That's what I want to know. But anyway, look, no, I don't think we're seeing so much about that. I mean, I think we have less pressure from tariffs than almost anybody else. I'm not sure that everybody's gross margins are up in the tools group, but I'm not hearing people talk about pressures. But that's normal. I'll tell you this. When I get on a van, and I do all the time, or I meet franchisees, they never mention the competition. I shouldn't say never, but they seldom mention the competition. And it's because Snap-on is kind of out in a different area. People decide to buy a Snap-on product, or they decide to choose from a bunch of other alternatives. That's really the way it is. We're not actually competing with those guys for the same people.
Sara Verbsky: Why do you always ask about the competitors? That's what I want to know. But anyway, look, no, I don't think we're seeing so much about that. I mean, I think we have less pressure from tariffs than almost anybody else. I'm not sure that everybody's gross margins are up in the tools group, but I'm not hearing people talk about pressures. But that's normal. I'll tell you this. When I get on a van, and I do all the time, or I meet franchisees, they never mention the competition. I shouldn't say never, but they seldom mention the competition. And it's because Snap-on is kind of out in a different area. People decide to buy a Snap-on product, or they decide to choose from a bunch of other alternatives. That's really the way it is. We're not actually competing with those guys for the same people.
Speaker #7: But anyway, look, no, we're not seeing I don't think we're seeing so much about that. I mean, I think we have less pressure from tariffs than almost anybody else.
Speaker #7: I'm not sure that everybody's gross margins are up in the Tools Group, but I'm not hearing people talk about pressures. But that's normal. I'll tell you this.
Speaker #7: When I get on a van, and I do all the time, or I meet franchisees, or they never mention the competition. They always I shouldn't say never, but they seldom mention the competition.
Speaker #7: And it's because Snap-on is kind of out in a different area. People decide to buy a Snap-on product or they decide to choose from a bunch of other alternatives.
Speaker #7: That's really the way it is. We're not actually competing with those guys for the same people. We don't see our guys don't see it that way.
Sara Verbsky: We don't see it. Our guys don't see it that way. Now, I don't know. I think, knowing where they source from, and some have had difficulty in making in the United States, I think the tariffs have got to give them some fits. They haven't been giving us fits. So I would think we'd be in a better position. Well, I'm not sure. I mean, they might absorb it in profitability. Nobody said to us that anybody's dropping price. Nobody said to us, "Oh, people are raising a price, and it makes a difference to us," because we're always above them anyway.
Sara Verbsky: We don't see it. Our guys don't see it that way. Now, I don't know. I think, knowing where they source from, and some have had difficulty in making in the United States, I think the tariffs have got to give them some fits. They haven't been giving us fits. So I would think we'd be in a better position. Well, I'm not sure. I mean, they might absorb it in profitability. Nobody said to us that anybody's dropping price. Nobody said to us, "Oh, people are raising a price, and it makes a difference to us," because we're always above them anyway.
Speaker #7: Now, I don't know. I think knowing where they source from, and some have had difficulty in making in the United States, I think the tariffs have got to give them some fits.
Speaker #7: They haven't been giving us fits. So I would think we'd be in a better position. Well, I'm not sure. I mean, they might absorb it in profitability.
Speaker #7: Nobody said to us that anybody's dropping price. Nobody said to us, "Oh, people are raising a price and it makes a difference to us," because we're always above them
Speaker #7: anyway. Great.
Speaker #1: That's all for us. Thanks, guys. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Sarah Verbsky for any closing remarks.
Patrick Buckley: Great. That's all for us. Thanks, guys.
Patrick Buckley: Great. That's all for us. Thanks, guys.
[Company Representative] (Snap-on Incorporated): This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Sara Verbsky for any closing remarks.
[Company Representative] (Snap-on Incorporated): This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Sara Verbsky for any closing remarks.
Speaker #3: Thank you all for joining us today. A replay of this call will be available shortly on Snap-on.com. As always, we appreciate your interest in Snap-on.
[Company Representative] (Snap-on Incorporated): Thank you all for joining us today. A replay of this call will be available shortly on Snap-on.com. As always, we appreciate your interest in Snap-on. Good day.
[Company Representative] (Snap-on Incorporated): Thank you all for joining us today. A replay of this call will be available shortly on Snap-on.com. As always, we appreciate your interest in Snap-on. Good day.
Speaker #3: Good day.
Speaker #1: The
Speaker #1: conference has now concluded.
[Company Representative] (Snap-on Incorporated): The conference has now concluded.
[Company Representative] (Snap-on Incorporated): The conference has now concluded.