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Q4 2025 Credit Acceptance Earnings Call
Operator: Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Credit Acceptance Corporation Q4 2025 earnings call. A webcast recording and transcript of today's earnings call will be made available on Credit Acceptance's website. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Credit Acceptance Chief Financial Officer, Jay Martin.
Operator: Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Credit Acceptance Corporation Q4 2025 earnings call. A webcast recording and transcript of today's earnings call will be made available on Credit Acceptance's website. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Credit Acceptance Chief Financial Officer, Jay Martin.
Speaker #1: At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Credit Acceptance Chief Financial Officer, Jay Martin.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to the Credit Acceptance Q earnings call. As you read our news release posted on the investor relations section of our website, ir.creditacceptance.com, and as you listen to this conference call, please recognize that both contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities law.
Jay Martin: Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to the Credit Acceptance Corporation Earnings Call. As you read our news release posted on the investor relations section of our website at ir.creditacceptance.com, and as you listen to this conference call, please recognize that both contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities law. These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control, and which could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements. These risks and uncertainties include those spelled out in the cautionary statement regarding forward-looking information included in the news release. Consider all forward-looking statements in light of those and other risks and uncertainties. Additionally, to comply with the SEC's Regulation G, please refer to the financial results section of our news release, which provides tables showing how non-GAAP measures reconcile to GAAP measures.
Jay Martin: Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to the Credit Acceptance Corporation Earnings Call. As you read our news release posted on the investor relations section of our website at ir.creditacceptance.com, and as you listen to this conference call, please recognize that both contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities law. These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control, and which could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements. These risks and uncertainties include those spelled out in the cautionary statement regarding forward-looking information included in the news release. Consider all forward-looking statements in light of those and other risks and uncertainties. Additionally, to comply with the SEC's Regulation G, please refer to the financial results section of our news release, which provides tables showing how non-GAAP measures reconcile to GAAP measures.
Speaker #2: These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control and which could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements.
Speaker #2: These risks and uncertainties include those spelled out in the cautionary statement regarding forward-looking information, included in the news release. Consider all forward-looking statements in light of those and other risks and uncertainties.
Speaker #2: Additionally, to comply with the SEC's Regulation G, please refer to the Financial Results section of our news release, which provides tables showing how non-GAAP measures reconcile to GAAP measures.
Speaker #2: At this time, I'd like to introduce our chief executive officer, Vinayak
Jay Martin: At this time, I'd like to introduce our Chief Executive Officer, Vinayak Hegde.
At this time, I'd like to introduce our Chief Executive Officer, Vinayak Hegde.
Speaker #2: Hegde. Good afternoon, everyone.
Vinayak Hegde: Good afternoon, everyone. I'm honored to join you today for my first quarterly earnings call as CEO. While I have only recently stepped into this role, it has been my privilege to serve with Credit Acceptance's board of directors for nearly five years. That experience gave me a front-row seat to the tremendous passion, talent, and resilience that define our organization. Prior to joining Credit Acceptance, I led teams at founder-led companies where success came down to three things: a clear mission and purpose, an owner's mindset, and an obsession with the front line, staying close to customers and those who execute the work every day. Those same attributes drew me to Credit Acceptance. They were instilled by our founder, Don Foss, who led the company from our founding in 1972 until 2017, when he retired as the chairman of the board.
Vinayak Hegde: Good afternoon, everyone. I'm honored to join you today for my first quarterly earnings call as CEO. While I have only recently stepped into this role, it has been my privilege to serve with Credit Acceptance's board of directors for nearly five years. That experience gave me a front-row seat to the tremendous passion, talent, and resilience that define our organization. Prior to joining Credit Acceptance, I led teams at founder-led companies where success came down to three things: a clear mission and purpose, an owner's mindset, and an obsession with the front line, staying close to customers and those who execute the work every day. Those same attributes drew me to Credit Acceptance. They were instilled by our founder, Don Foss, who led the company from our founding in 1972 until 2017, when he retired as the chairman of the board.
Speaker #3: I'm honored to join you today for my first quarterly earnings call as CEO. While I have only recently stepped into this role, it has been my privilege to serve as credit acceptance's board of directors for nearly five years.
Speaker #3: That experience gave me a front-row seat to the tremendous passion, talent, and resilience that define our organization. Prior to joining credit acceptance, I led teams at founder-led companies where success came down to three things: a clear mission and purpose, an owner's mindset, and an obsession with the front line.
Speaker #3: Staying close to customers and those who execute the work every day. Those same attributes drew me to credit acceptance. Ever instilled by our founder, Don Foss, who led the company from our founding in 1972 until 2017 when he retired as the chairman of the board.
Speaker #3: Let me share a quick reminder of his story and our enduring mission. Don, a car dealer himself, started Credit Acceptance based on a simple but powerful belief: many hardworking individuals were being unfairly denied the opportunity to finance a vehicle they needed simply because of their past credit challenges or limited credit history.
Vinayak Hegde: Let me share a quick reminder of his story and our enduring mission. Don, a car dealer himself, started Credit Acceptance based on a simple but powerful belief. Many hardworking individuals were being unfairly denied the opportunity to finance a vehicle they needed, simply because of their past credit challenges or limited credit history. Don believed traditional lenders too often misjudged people with less than prime credit, assuming they weren't worthy of a second chance. He built Credit Acceptance to change that by empowering dealers to serve those individuals through access to financing. These individuals, in turn, gained reliable transportation and the ability to build or rebuild their credit, a path forward in life.
Let me share a quick reminder of his story and our enduring mission. Don, a car dealer himself, started Credit Acceptance based on a simple but powerful belief. Many hardworking individuals were being unfairly denied the opportunity to finance a vehicle they needed, simply because of their past credit challenges or limited credit history. Don believed traditional lenders too often misjudged people with less than prime credit, assuming they weren't worthy of a second chance. He built Credit Acceptance to change that by empowering dealers to serve those individuals through access to financing. These individuals, in turn, gained reliable transportation and the ability to build or rebuild their credit, a path forward in life.
Speaker #3: Don believed traditional lenders too often misjudged people with less-than-prime credit, assuming they weren't worthy of a second chance. He built Credit Acceptance to change that by empowering dealers to serve those individuals through access to financing.
Speaker #3: These individuals, in turn, gained reliable transportation and the ability to build or rebuild their credit—a path forward in life. I intend to lead Credit Acceptance in exactly that spirit: embracing the owner's mindset, being driven by the bold mission to help every American buy a car through dealers, and obsessing over the front line.
Vinayak Hegde: I intend to lead Credit Acceptance in exactly that spirit, embracing the owner's mindset, being driven by the bold mission to help every American buy a car through dealers and obsessing over the front line, understanding dealers' needs intimately and empowering them to serve credit-challenged and credit-invisible consumers. If we serve our dealers and consumers well, I believe our business will thrive. Since assuming the role of CEO nearly 90 days ago, I focused on listening, learning, and charting a purposeful path forward. First, I connected with team members throughout the company to better understand the dealer and consumer experience. I also met the dealers to learn firsthand how our services and products support their businesses and consumers, and potential points of friction. Next, I developed a growth plan with clear priorities and established highly disciplined operating rhythms.
I intend to lead Credit Acceptance in exactly that spirit, embracing the owner's mindset, being driven by the bold mission to help every American buy a car through dealers and obsessing over the front line, understanding dealers' needs intimately and empowering them to serve credit-challenged and credit-invisible consumers. If we serve our dealers and consumers well, I believe our business will thrive. Since assuming the role of CEO nearly 90 days ago, I focused on listening, learning, and charting a purposeful path forward. First, I connected with team members throughout the company to better understand the dealer and consumer experience. I also met the dealers to learn firsthand how our services and products support their businesses and consumers, and potential points of friction. Next, I developed a growth plan with clear priorities and established highly disciplined operating rhythms.
Speaker #3: Understanding dealers' needs intimately and empowering them. To serve credit challenged and credit-invisible consumers. If we serve our dealers and consumers well, I believe our business will thrive.
Speaker #3: Since assuming the role of CEO nearly 90 days ago, I've focused on listening, learning, and charting a purposeful path forward. First, I connected with team members throughout the company to better understand the dealer and consumer experience.
Speaker #3: I also met the dealers to learn firsthand how our services and products support their businesses and consumers. And potential points of friction. Next, I developed a growth plan with clear priorities and established highly disciplined operating rhythms.
Speaker #3: These operating rhythms include weekly business reviews to track performance and address issues in real time, and a quarterly game plan with a consolidated roadmap across all functions of the company to stay tightly aligned with our annual objectives.
Vinayak Hegde: These operating rhythms include weekly business reviews to track performance and address issues in real time, and a quarterly game plan with a consolidated roadmap across all functions of the company to stay tightly aligned with our annual objectives. I believe this type of structured approach creates accountability, agility, and consistent progress towards goals. As I move forward, my leadership will be guided by several core operating principles. Be obsessed with and remove friction for our customers, both the dealer and the consumer. Make data-driven decisions, explore ways to enhance our servicing and processing capabilities through artificial intelligence, prioritize a digital-first approach in our initiatives, and continue to provide a culture that attracts and retains talented people and enables them to excel. Consistent with those core operating principles, I believe we can position Credit Acceptance for growth. We're continuing to prioritize three strategic objectives.
These operating rhythms include weekly business reviews to track performance and address issues in real time, and a quarterly game plan with a consolidated roadmap across all functions of the company to stay tightly aligned with our annual objectives. I believe this type of structured approach creates accountability, agility, and consistent progress towards goals. As I move forward, my leadership will be guided by several core operating principles. Be obsessed with and remove friction for our customers, both the dealer and the consumer. Make data-driven decisions, explore ways to enhance our servicing and processing capabilities through artificial intelligence, prioritize a digital-first approach in our initiatives, and continue to provide a culture that attracts and retains talented people and enables them to excel. Consistent with those core operating principles, I believe we can position Credit Acceptance for growth. We're continuing to prioritize three strategic objectives.
Speaker #3: I believe this type of structured approach creates accountability, agility, and consistent progress towards goals. As I move forward, my leadership will be guided by several core operating principles.
Speaker #3: Be obsessed with and remove friction for our customers, both the dealer and the consumer. Make data-driven decisions, explore ways to enhance our servicing and processing capabilities through artificial intelligence.
Speaker #3: Prioritize the digital-first approach in our initiatives. And continue to provide a culture that attracts and retains talented people and enables them to excel. Consistent with those core operating principles, I believe we can position credit acceptance for growth.
Speaker #3: We continue to prioritize three strategic objectives: one, generating dealer and consumer demand by deepening relationships within our dealer network, support dealers in acquiring new consumers, and leveraging data-driven insights to better understand and serve our markets.
Vinayak Hegde: 1, generating dealer and consumer demand by deepening relationships within our dealer network, support dealers in acquiring new consumers, and leveraging data-driven insights to better understand and serve our markets. 2, empowering dealers to fulfill their demand through preferred channels, such as our proprietary origination system or through aggregators like RouteOne and Dealertrack. 3, delivering world-class servicing and processing. We are continuing to invest in artificial intelligence, which is already supporting our customer service calls and helping to improve efficiency. It also includes making ongoing enhancements to our app, prioritizing customer experience, and nurturing long-term loyalty among dealers and consumers. I've been impressed by the strong foundation and dedication across our teams to execute on these priorities. For example, in Q4, we rolled out the new contract origination experience, specifically built for the way franchise and large independent dealers operate in today's market.
1, generating dealer and consumer demand by deepening relationships within our dealer network, support dealers in acquiring new consumers, and leveraging data-driven insights to better understand and serve our markets. 2, empowering dealers to fulfill their demand through preferred channels, such as our proprietary origination system or through aggregators like RouteOne and Dealertrack. 3, delivering world-class servicing and processing. We are continuing to invest in artificial intelligence, which is already supporting our customer service calls and helping to improve efficiency. It also includes making ongoing enhancements to our app, prioritizing customer experience, and nurturing long-term loyalty among dealers and consumers. I've been impressed by the strong foundation and dedication across our teams to execute on these priorities. For example, in Q4, we rolled out the new contract origination experience, specifically built for the way franchise and large independent dealers operate in today's market.
Speaker #3: Two, empowering dealers to fulfill their demand through preferred channels, such as our proprietary origination system or through aggregators like RouteOne and DealerTrack. Three, delivering world-class servicing and processing.
Speaker #3: We are continuing to invest in artificial intelligence, which is already supporting our customer service calls and helping to improve efficiency. It also includes making ongoing enhancements to our app, prioritizing customer experience, and nurturing long-term loyalty among dealers and consumers.
Speaker #3: I've been impressed by the strong foundation and dedication across our teams to execute on these priorities. For example, in the fourth quarter, we rolled out a new contract origination experience specifically built for the way franchise and large independent dealers operate in today's market.
Speaker #3: Increasingly, these dealers originate contracts through aggregator platforms and integrated dealer systems rather than standalone lender portals. Our experience meets them where they are. It includes seamless RouteOne e-contracting integration, enhanced deal structuring and optimization tools, and expanded support for financial and insurance products.
Vinayak Hegde: Increasingly, these dealers originate contracts through aggregator platforms and integrated dealer systems rather than standalone lender portals. Our experience meets them where they are. It includes seamless RouteOne e-contracting integration, enhanced deal structuring and optimization tools, and expanded support for financial and insurance products, all designed to eliminate friction and make working with Credit Acceptance faster and more intuitive inside the systems dealers already use every day. This launch is particularly timely. The percentage declines in loan unit volume we have seen were most significant among franchise dealers. Notably, we have observed that consumer loans originated through franchise dealers also continue to exhibit slightly better credit performance than those from independent dealers. We expect to continue to expand the number of dealers using the new contract origination experience in Q1 2026.
Increasingly, these dealers originate contracts through aggregator platforms and integrated dealer systems rather than standalone lender portals. Our experience meets them where they are. It includes seamless RouteOne e-contracting integration, enhanced deal structuring and optimization tools, and expanded support for financial and insurance products, all designed to eliminate friction and make working with Credit Acceptance faster and more intuitive inside the systems dealers already use every day. This launch is particularly timely. The percentage declines in loan unit volume we have seen were most significant among franchise dealers. Notably, we have observed that consumer loans originated through franchise dealers also continue to exhibit slightly better credit performance than those from independent dealers. We expect to continue to expand the number of dealers using the new contract origination experience in Q1 2026.
Speaker #3: All designed to eliminate friction and make working with credit acceptance faster, and more intuitive. Inside the systems, dealers already use every day. This launch is particularly timely.
Speaker #3: The percentage declines in loan unit volume we have seen were most significant among franchise dealers. Notably, we have observed that consumer loans originated through franchise dealers also continue to exhibit slightly better credit performance than those from independent dealers.
Speaker #3: We expect to continue to expand the number of dealers using the new contract origination experience in the first quarter of 2026. I'm encouraged by real dealer stories that show our mission in action.
Vinayak Hegde: I'm encouraged by real dealer stories that show our mission in action, like the one from Town & Country Ford, a family-owned franchise dealership in Alabama. The community in which Town & Country Ford is located faced economic headwinds, including factory closures that left retired steel and ironworkers with credit challenges. When their new general sales manager joined, bringing prior positive experience with Credit Acceptance, she recognized an opportunity to empower her team to serve those credit-challenged buyers. She led the dealership to enroll with us, which boosted repeat and referral business while strengthening their local reputation in tough times. This collaboration echoes the very reason Credit Acceptance was founded. Our company was built to provide second chances, help individuals finance reliable transportation, rebuild credit, and move their lives forward. At Town & Country, we are seeing that mission come alive.
I'm encouraged by real dealer stories that show our mission in action, like the one from Town & Country Ford, a family-owned franchise dealership in Alabama. The community in which Town & Country Ford is located faced economic headwinds, including factory closures that left retired steel and ironworkers with credit challenges. When their new general sales manager joined, bringing prior positive experience with Credit Acceptance, she recognized an opportunity to empower her team to serve those credit-challenged buyers. She led the dealership to enroll with us, which boosted repeat and referral business while strengthening their local reputation in tough times. This collaboration echoes the very reason Credit Acceptance was founded. Our company was built to provide second chances, help individuals finance reliable transportation, rebuild credit, and move their lives forward. At Town & Country, we are seeing that mission come alive.
Speaker #3: Like the one from Town & Country Ford, a family-owned franchise dealership in Alabama. The community in which Town & Country Ford is located faced economic headwinds, including factory closures, that left retired steel and iron workers with credit challenges.
Speaker #3: When their new general sales manager joined, bringing prior positive experiences with credit acceptance, she recognized an opportunity to empower her team to serve those credit-challenged buyers.
Speaker #3: She led the dealership to enroll with us, which boosted repeat and referral business while strengthening their local reputation in tough times. This collaboration echoes the very reason Credit Acceptance was founded: our company was built to provide second chances.
Speaker #3: Help individuals finance reliable transportation, rebuild credit, and move their lives forward. At Town & Country, we are seeing that mission come alive. Consumers gain access to vehicles that change their daily lives.
Vinayak Hegde: Consumers gain access to vehicles that change their daily lives, while the dealership staff finds renewed purpose in making a difference in their community. When we enable franchise and independent dealers to serve a wider market, everyone wins. Consumers get opportunities, dealers build sustainable businesses, and communities benefit from greater economic mobility. Importantly, we delivered our mission while maintaining a great workplace. During the quarter, we were named one of America's Top 100 Most Loved Workplaces for the second consecutive year, with a No. 6 ranking. I'm deeply impressed by the culture and the excitement to execute our mission and drive Credit Acceptance forward. A special thank you to Ken Booth, who helped build a strong foundation through his leadership and continues to serve our board. Before I hand it to Jay to provide an overview of our Q4 performance, I want to leave you with one final message.
Consumers gain access to vehicles that change their daily lives, while the dealership staff finds renewed purpose in making a difference in their community. When we enable franchise and independent dealers to serve a wider market, everyone wins. Consumers get opportunities, dealers build sustainable businesses, and communities benefit from greater economic mobility. Importantly, we delivered our mission while maintaining a great workplace. During the quarter, we were named one of America's Top 100 Most Loved Workplaces for the second consecutive year, with a No. 6 ranking. I'm deeply impressed by the culture and the excitement to execute our mission and drive Credit Acceptance forward. A special thank you to Ken Booth, who helped build a strong foundation through his leadership and continues to serve our board. Before I hand it to Jay to provide an overview of our Q4 performance, I want to leave you with one final message.
Speaker #3: While the dealership staff finds renewed purpose in making a difference in their community, when we enable franchise and independent dealers to serve a wider market, everyone wins.
Speaker #3: Consumers get opportunities, dealers build sustainable businesses, and communities benefit from greater economic mobility. Importantly, we delivered our mission while maintaining a great workplace. During the quarter, we were named one of America's top 100 Most Loved Workplaces for the second consecutive year.
Speaker #3: With a number six ranking, I'm deeply impressed by the culture and the excitement to execute our mission and drive Credit Acceptance forward. A special thank you to Kenneth Booth, who helped build the strong foundation through his leadership and continues to serve our board.
Speaker #3: Before I hand it to Jay to provide an overview of our Q4 performance, I want to leave you with one final message. I'm a builder by trade, and my past leadership roles have built and scaled innovative, customer-centric businesses that transformed how people shop, travel, and connect.
Vinayak Hegde: I'm a builder by trade. In my past leadership roles, I have built and scaled innovative, customer-centric businesses that transformed how people shop, travel, and connect. I believe Credit Acceptance has a very strong foundation, one built on purpose and performance. I'll strive to layer technology, a deeply data-informed approach, and a highly structured operating rhythm on top of that foundation to create a dynamic, durable, and even more customer-obsessed company. You can expect me to report progress on our initiatives. We're transparent about our challenges, and we're disciplined with capital allocation. We'll maintain our focus on maximizing economic profit and the company's long-term intrinsic value. I'm genuinely excited to partner with all of you, our team, our dealers, our consumers, and our investors, as we build this next phase together.
I'm a builder by trade. In my past leadership roles, I have built and scaled innovative, customer-centric businesses that transformed how people shop, travel, and connect. I believe Credit Acceptance has a very strong foundation, one built on purpose and performance. I'll strive to layer technology, a deeply data-informed approach, and a highly structured operating rhythm on top of that foundation to create a dynamic, durable, and even more customer-obsessed company. You can expect me to report progress on our initiatives. We're transparent about our challenges, and we're disciplined with capital allocation. We'll maintain our focus on maximizing economic profit and the company's long-term intrinsic value. I'm genuinely excited to partner with all of you, our team, our dealers, our consumers, and our investors, as we build this next phase together.
Speaker #3: I believe credit acceptance has a very strong foundation—one built on purpose, and performance. I'll strive to layer technology, a deeply data-informed approach, and a highly structured operating rhythm on top of that foundation to create a dynamic, durable, and even more customer-obsessed company.
Speaker #3: You can expect me to report progress on our initiatives, be transparent about our challenges, and be disciplined with capital allocation. We'll maintain our focus on maximizing economic profit and compounding long-term intrinsic value.
Speaker #3: I'm genuinely excited to partner with all of you, our team, our dealers, our consumers, and our investors. As we build this next phase
Speaker #3: together. Thank
Speaker #2: As to the fourth quarter results, we were pleased to announce growth and adjusted earnings per share, despite declines in loan performance and loan volume.
Jay Martin: Thank you. As to the fourth quarter results, we were pleased to announce growth in adjusted earnings per share, despite declines in loan performance and loan volume. We financed nearly 72,000 contracts for our dealers and consumers and collected $1.3 billion overall and paid $48 million in dealer holdback and accelerated dealer holdback. Additionally, we enrolled over 1,200 new dealers and had over 9,800 active dealers during the quarter. Loan performance, measured by variances in forecasted collection rates from the last quarter, moderately declined. More specifically, our 2023 and 2024 vintages declined 0.4% and 0.2%, respectively, while our other vintages were stable during the quarter. Importantly, the underperformance of our 2024 vintage was primarily related to loans originated prior to the scorecard change during the third quarter of 2024.
Jay Martin: Thank you. As to the fourth quarter results, we were pleased to announce growth in adjusted earnings per share, despite declines in loan performance and loan volume. We financed nearly 72,000 contracts for our dealers and consumers and collected $1.3 billion overall and paid $48 million in dealer holdback and accelerated dealer holdback. Additionally, we enrolled over 1,200 new dealers and had over 9,800 active dealers during the quarter. Loan performance, measured by variances in forecasted collection rates from the last quarter, moderately declined. More specifically, our 2023 and 2024 vintages declined 0.4% and 0.2%, respectively, while our other vintages were stable during the quarter. Importantly, the underperformance of our 2024 vintage was primarily related to loans originated prior to the scorecard change during the third quarter of 2024.
Speaker #2: We financed nearly 72,000 contracts for our dealers and consumers, and collected $1.3 billion overall, and paid $48 million in dealer holdback and accelerated dealer holdback.
Speaker #2: Additionally, we enrolled over 1,200 new dealers and had over 9,800 active dealers during the quarter. Loan performance measured by variances in forecasted collection rates from the last quarter, moderately declined.
Speaker #2: More specifically, our 2023 and 2024 vintages declined 0.4% and 0.2%, respectively. While our other vintages were stable during the quarter. Importantly, the underperformance of our '24 vintage was primarily related to loans originated prior to the scorecard change during the third quarter of 2024.
Speaker #2: We believe the underperformance was largely the result of the continued impact of high inflation on the subprime consumer. Changes to our forecast of future net cash flow sequentially improved this quarter, with the rate of decline narrowing from a decrease of 58.6 million or a 0.5% during the third quarter of 2025 to a decrease of 34.2 million or a 0.3% during the fourth quarter of '25.
Jay Martin: We believe the underperformance was largely the result of the continued impact of high inflation on the subprime consumer. Changes to our forecast of future net cash flows sequentially improved this quarter, with the rate of decline narrowing from a decrease of $58.6 million, or 0.5%, during Q3 of 2025, to a decrease of $34.2 million, or 0.3%, during Q4 of 2025. Loan volumes also sequentially improved this quarter, with year-over-year declines narrowing. Loan unit volume improved to a decline of 9.1% this quarter versus a decline of 16.5% last quarter. Likewise, loan dollar volume improved to a decline of 11.3% this quarter versus a decline of 19.4% last quarter.
We believe the underperformance was largely the result of the continued impact of high inflation on the subprime consumer. Changes to our forecast of future net cash flows sequentially improved this quarter, with the rate of decline narrowing from a decrease of $58.6 million, or 0.5%, during Q3 of 2025, to a decrease of $34.2 million, or 0.3%, during Q4 of 2025. Loan volumes also sequentially improved this quarter, with year-over-year declines narrowing. Loan unit volume improved to a decline of 9.1% this quarter versus a decline of 16.5% last quarter. Likewise, loan dollar volume improved to a decline of 11.3% this quarter versus a decline of 19.4% last quarter.
Speaker #2: Loan volumes also sequentially improved this quarter, with year-over-year declines narrowing. Loan unit volume improved to a decline of 9.1% this quarter, versus a decline of 16.5% last quarter.
Speaker #2: Likewise, loan dollar volume improved to a decline of 11.3% this quarter, versus a decline of 19.4% last quarter. Our market share in our core segment of used vehicles financed by subprime consumers was 4.5% for the first two months of the fourth quarter, down from 5.4% for the same period in 2024.
Jay Martin: Our market share in our core segment of used vehicles financed by subprime consumers was 4.5% for the first 2 months of Q4, down from 5.4% for the same period in 2024. The number of active dealers declined 2.8% year-over-year, and the average unit volume per active dealer declined 6.4% year-over-year. Our loan portfolio, however, increased 1% year-over-year on an adjusted basis. At this time, Vinayak and I will take your questions, along with Jay Brinkley, our Senior Vice President and Treasurer, and Jeff Soutar, our Vice President and Assistant Treasurer.
Our market share in our core segment of used vehicles financed by subprime consumers was 4.5% for the first 2 months of Q4, down from 5.4% for the same period in 2024. The number of active dealers declined 2.8% year-over-year, and the average unit volume per active dealer declined 6.4% year-over-year. Our loan portfolio, however, increased 1% year-over-year on an adjusted basis. At this time, Vinayak and I will take your questions, along with Jay Brinkley, our Senior Vice President and Treasurer, and Jeff Soutar, our Vice President and Assistant Treasurer.
Speaker #2: The number of active dealers declined 2.8% year-over-year, and the average unit volume per active dealer declined 6.4% year-over-year. Our loan portfolio, however, increased 1% year-over-year on an adjusted basis.
Speaker #2: At this time, Vinayak and I will take your questions, along with Jay Brinkley, our senior vice president and treasurer, and Jeff Sutar, our vice president and assistant
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Speaker #4: Hi, guys, and hi, Vinayak. Welcome. Nice to have you on the call here. Question for you: you spent several years on the board, so certainly not new to the company, but your background is definitely much more from the marketing, growth, technology areas than it is from maybe more traditional financial services.
Robert Wildhack: ... Hi, guys, and hi, Vinayak. Welcome. Nice to have you on the call here. Question for you, you know, you spent several years on the board, so certainly not new to the company, but your background definitely much more from the marketing growth, technology areas than it is from maybe more traditional financial services. I thought the opportunities you outlined sound very interesting, but I would love to get your thoughts on how you plan to manage the credit lending, underwriting, more financial aspects of the business, and if you see any opportunities for improvement or change, in any of those areas specifically.
Robert Wildhack: ... Hi, guys, and hi, Vinayak. Welcome. Nice to have you on the call here. Question for you, you know, you spent several years on the board, so certainly not new to the company, but your background definitely much more from the marketing growth, technology areas than it is from maybe more traditional financial services. I thought the opportunities you outlined sound very interesting, but I would love to get your thoughts on how you plan to manage the credit lending, underwriting, more financial aspects of the business, and if you see any opportunities for improvement or change, in any of those areas specifically.
Speaker #4: I thought the opportunities you outlined sound very interesting, but I would love to get your thoughts on how you plan to manage the credit lending, underwriting, and more financial aspects of the business, and if you see any opportunities for improvement or change in any of those areas.
Speaker #4: specifically. Hey,
Vinayak Hegde: Hey, Robert, thank you for your question. Yeah, I mean, look, I mean, we tend to take a long-term view on this, and we want to be conservative in our approach towards lending, do the right thing, improve the customer experience. But we always take a long-term view on this, not just a short-term view on this. We obviously see opportunities to constantly improve the credit scoring models, improving the models, which we'll constantly continue to do. But there is the approach towards lending and credit scoring is going to be conservative and long-term focused.
Vinayak Hegde: Hey, Robert, thank you for your question. Yeah, I mean, look, I mean, we tend to take a long-term view on this, and we want to be conservative in our approach towards lending, do the right thing, improve the customer experience. But we always take a long-term view on this, not just a short-term view on this. We obviously see opportunities to constantly improve the credit scoring models, improving the models, which we'll constantly continue to do. But there is the approach towards lending and credit scoring is going to be conservative and long-term focused.
Speaker #5: Robert. Thank you for your question. Yeah, I mean, look, I mean, we tend to take a long-term view on this, and we want to be conservative in our approach towards lending.
Speaker #5: Do the right thing, improve the customer experience. But we always take a long-term view on this, not just a short-term view on this. We obviously see opportunities to constantly improve the credit scoring models, improving the models which we will constantly continue to do.
Speaker #5: But there is the approach towards lending and credit scoring is going to be conservative, and long-term
Speaker #5: focused. Okay.
Robert Wildhack: Okay, thanks. And then maybe one for, for Jay. You know, the provision, I wanted to ask about, specifically the $73 million for new originations. On a per unit basis, that's roughly $1,000 per unit. But for the last two quarters, provision per new unit had been more like $700 or $800. So wondering what the driver of the increase is there, and then do you think that that number should revert more to $800, or should it run more like $1,000 per unit going forward?
Robert Wildhack: Okay, thanks. And then maybe one for, for Jay. You know, the provision, I wanted to ask about, specifically the $73 million for new originations. On a per unit basis, that's roughly $1,000 per unit. But for the last two quarters, provision per new unit had been more like $700 or $800. So wondering what the driver of the increase is there, and then do you think that that number should revert more to $800, or should it run more like $1,000 per unit going forward?
Speaker #4: Thanks. And maybe one for Jay. The provision—I wanted to ask about specifically the $73 million for new originations. On a per-unit basis, that's roughly $1,000 per unit.
Speaker #4: But for the last two quarters, provision per new unit had been more like 7 or 800. So wondering what the driver of the increase is there, and then do you think that that number should revert more to 800, or should it run more like $1,000 per unit going
Speaker #4: But for the last two quarters, provision per new unit had been more like 7 or 800. So wondering what the driver of the increase is there, and then do you think that that number should revert more to 800, or should it run more like $1,000 per unit going forward?
Speaker #2: Yeah, the provision for new advances, it's a function of how much we're advancing the dealer and then also the mix between our portfolio and purchase program.
Jay Brinkley: Yeah, the provision for new advances, it's a function of how much we're advancing the dealer and then also the mix between our Portfolio Program and Purchase Program. In general, the purchase, the initial provision on the Purchase Program is about three times as what it is on the Portfolio Program. So as far as projecting that for the future, it all depends on the mix of business between Purchase Program and Portfolio Program, and just also the amount that we're advancing to the dealer.
Jay Brinkley: Yeah, the provision for new advances, it's a function of how much we're advancing the dealer and then also the mix between our Portfolio Program and Purchase Program. In general, the purchase, the initial provision on the Purchase Program is about three times as what it is on the Portfolio Program. So as far as projecting that for the future, it all depends on the mix of business between Purchase Program and Portfolio Program, and just also the amount that we're advancing to the dealer.
Speaker #2: In general, the purchase—the initial provision on the purchase programs is about three times what it is on the portfolio program. So as far as projecting that for the future, it all depends on the mix of business between purchase and portfolio and just also the amount that we're advancing to the dealer.
Speaker #4: Okay. And is the mix the driver of the increase in the fourth quarter specifically?
Robert Wildhack: Okay. And is the mix the driver of the increase in this, in the fourth quarter, specifically?
Robert Wildhack: Okay. And is the mix the driver of the increase in this, in the fourth quarter, specifically?
Jay Brinkley: Yes.
Jay Brinkley: Yes.
Speaker #4: Got it. Thank Yes. you.
Robert Wildhack: Got it. Thank you.
Robert Wildhack: Got it. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Thank you. Our next question comes from Moshe Armbuck with TD Cowan. You may.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Moshe Orenbuch with TD Cowen. You may proceed.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Moshe Orenbuch with TD Cowen. You may proceed.
Speaker #3: proceed. Great.
Moshe Orenbuch: Great. Great, thanks. And maybe could you talk a little bit about the competitive environment? 'Cause, you know, it's interesting that the market share you talked about three months ago, kind of for the first 8 months of the year was, over 5%, and now it's at 4.5%. So is there some-- I mean, is there something... Is it more dramatic? Like, what's, you know, the changes? And maybe could you just talk about that a little bit.
Moshe Orenbuch: Great. Great, thanks. And maybe could you talk a little bit about the competitive environment? 'Cause, you know, it's interesting that the market share you talked about three months ago, kind of for the first 8 months of the year was, over 5%, and now it's at 4.5%. So is there some-- I mean, is there something... Is it more dramatic? Like, what's, you know, the changes? And maybe could you just talk about that a little bit.
Speaker #6: Great. Thanks. And maybe could you talk a little bit about the competitive environment? Because it's interesting that the market share you talked about three months ago kind of for the first eight months of the year was over 5%, and now it's at 4.5.
Speaker #6: So is there some—I mean, is there something—is it more dramatic? What's the changes and maybe could you just talk about that a little bit?
Vinayak Hegde: Hey, Moshe, thank you, thank you for your question. Yeah, look, I mean, the competitive environment is always competitive and evolving. We actually want to be more customer-focused and not competitive-focused, and we'll continue to be customer-focused, not competitive-focused. With respect to the share in the used vehicle subprime market, as of November, it was 4.5%, which is kind of flat quarter-over-quarter since what we reported last quarter. As I said in my remarks, you know, the decline that we are seeing is mostly in the large independent dealers and franchise dealers, and that is where we are focused on actually building solutions for that, right?
Vinayak Hegde: Hey, Moshe, thank you, thank you for your question. Yeah, look, I mean, the competitive environment is always competitive and evolving. We actually want to be more customer-focused and not competitive-focused, and we'll continue to be customer-focused, not competitive-focused. With respect to the share in the used vehicle subprime market, as of November, it was 4.5%, which is kind of flat quarter-over-quarter since what we reported last quarter. As I said in my remarks, you know, the decline that we are seeing is mostly in the large independent dealers and franchise dealers, and that is where we are focused on actually building solutions for that, right?
Speaker #5: Hey, Moshe, thank you for your question. Yeah, look, I mean, the competitive environment is always competitive and evolving. We actually want to be more customer-focused and not competitive-focused, and we'll continue to be customer-focused, not competitive-focused.
Speaker #5: With respect to the share in the used vehicle subprime market, as of November, it was 4.5%, which is kind of flat quarter-on-quarter since what we reported last quarter.
Speaker #5: As I said in my remarks, the decline that we are seeing is mostly in the large independent dealers and franchise dealers. And that is where we are focused on actually building solutions for that, right?
Vinayak Hegde: By our new experience, where we include seamless RouteOne e-contracting that has launched enhanced deal structuring, optimization, and support for F&I tools, because that helps these large independent dealers and franchise dealers, you know, use us in the workflow that they are already used to. Like, we kind of are meeting them where they are, and we expect to continue to expand on this to help those large independent dealers, and that's something that we are doing.
By our new experience, where we include seamless RouteOne e-contracting that has launched enhanced deal structuring, optimization, and support for F&I tools, because that helps these large independent dealers and franchise dealers, you know, use us in the workflow that they are already used to. Like, we kind of are meeting them where they are, and we expect to continue to expand on this to help those large independent dealers, and that's something that we are doing.
Speaker #5: Our new experience, where we include seamless route-only contracting, has launched enhanced deal structuring and optimization, and support for F&I tools. Because that helps these large independent dealers and franchise dealers use us in the workflow that they are already used to.
Speaker #5: We kind of are meeting them where they are, and we expect to continue to expand on this to help those large independent dealers, and that's something that we are doing.
Speaker #6: Got it.
Moshe Orenbuch: Got it.
Moshe Orenbuch: Got it.
Vinayak Hegde: One other thing I want to tell you is, like, this removing friction in this is like a very small, you know, interesting thing here, right? Like, if you think about it, we have a feature in our system which allows the dealer and the customer to basically optimize the deal. That's kind of the moment of truth if you think about it. You know, imagine you're trying to book an airline or search on Google or buy something on Amazon. It would take 3 minutes. The investments we have done in technology now allows that to be done in less than 2 seconds.
Speaker #5: One additional thing I want to tell you is this removing friction in this is like a very small interesting thing here, right? If you think about it, we have a feature in our system which allows the dealer and the customer to basically optimize the deal.
Vinayak Hegde: One other thing I want to tell you is, like, this removing friction in this is like a very small, you know, interesting thing here, right? Like, if you think about it, we have a feature in our system which allows the dealer and the customer to basically optimize the deal. That's kind of the moment of truth if you think about it. You know, imagine you're trying to book an airline or search on Google or buy something on Amazon. It would take 3 minutes. The investments we have done in technology now allows that to be done in less than 2 seconds.
Speaker #5: That's kind of the moment of truth, if you think about it. Imagine you're trying to book an airline, or search on Google, or buy something on Amazon.
Speaker #5: It would take three minutes. The investments we have done in technology now allow that to be done in less than two seconds. And it becomes even more important when you think about this integration with things like RouteOne because we are in competition with others and speed is actually incredibly important.
Vinayak Hegde: And it becomes even more important when you think about this integration with things like RouteOne, because we are in competition with others, and speed is actually incredibly important, and that's how I think about it. Thank you.
And it becomes even more important when you think about this integration with things like RouteOne, because we are in competition with others, and speed is actually incredibly important, and that's how I think about it. Thank you.
Speaker #5: And that's how I think about it. Thank you.
Speaker #6: Got it. Thanks. Okay. And maybe talk a little bit about where you're leverages. It looks like it's a little over 2.8 at this point in how you think about that in terms of what you're likely to do from the standpoint of capital distributions going forward.
Moshe Orenbuch: Got it. Thanks. Okay, and maybe talk a little bit about, you know, where your leverage is. It looks like it's a little over 2.8 at this point, and how you think about that, in terms of, you know, what you're likely to do from the standpoint of, you know, capital distributions going forward.
Moshe Orenbuch: Got it. Thanks. Okay, and maybe talk a little bit about, you know, where your leverage is. It looks like it's a little over 2.8 at this point, and how you think about that, in terms of, you know, what you're likely to do from the standpoint of, you know, capital distributions going forward.
Speaker #7: Yeah. Hi, Moshe. Yeah. I mean, our leverage continues to be within an acceptable range, albeit at the higher end. But when we think about capital allocation, we haven't changed that strategy.
Jay Brinkley: Yeah. Hi, Moshe. Yeah, I mean, our leverage continues to be within an acceptable range, albeit at the higher end. But when we think about capital allocation, we haven't changed that strategy, and leverage, obviously, is one of the points that we look at. We always would ensure that we have the capital needed to fund new originations. After that, you know, we look at a variety of factors, which includes leverage. And then obviously, we look and estimate at the intrinsic value of our stock and compare that to the market price, to decide if we want to repurchase. And in Q4, obviously very active, we felt like that was the case. So no, overall, no change in strategy there.
Jay Brinkley: Yeah. Hi, Moshe. Yeah, I mean, our leverage continues to be within an acceptable range, albeit at the higher end. But when we think about capital allocation, we haven't changed that strategy, and leverage, obviously, is one of the points that we look at. We always would ensure that we have the capital needed to fund new originations. After that, you know, we look at a variety of factors, which includes leverage. And then obviously, we look and estimate at the intrinsic value of our stock and compare that to the market price, to decide if we want to repurchase. And in Q4, obviously very active, we felt like that was the case. So no, overall, no change in strategy there.
Speaker #7: And leverage, obviously, is one of the points that we look at. We always want to ensure that we have the capital needed to fund new originations.
Speaker #7: After that, we look at a variety of factors, which includes leverage. And then, obviously, we look at estimate the intrinsic value of our stock and compare that to the market price to decide if we want to repurchase.
Speaker #7: And for, obviously, very active, we felt like that was the case. So no overall, no change in strategy
Speaker #7: there. Thanks.
Jay Martin: Thanks, thanks very much.
Moshe Orenbuch: Thanks, thanks very much.
Speaker #6: Thanks very much.
Speaker #3: Thank you. And as a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone. Our next question comes from John Heck with Jefferies.
Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone. Our next question comes from John Hecht with Jefferies. You may proceed.
Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone. Our next question comes from John Hecht with Jefferies. You may proceed.
Speaker #3: You may proceed.
John Hecht: Afternoon. Nice to meet you, and thanks very much for taking my questions. Actually, Moshe just asked most of the questions. My questions were kind of about the volumes and the competitive framework, so you touched on that. You know, maybe something that's along those lines is, it's been a challenging cycle because I think largely because of affordability issues, you know, and high used car prices and, you know, the related. You know, what's your perspective on how that fluctuates in the coming periods? And, you know, does lower interest rates alleviate some of that, or, or there's any other factors to think about in that regard?
Speaker #8: Afternoon. Nice to meet you. And thanks very much for taking my questions. Actually, Moshe—I just asked Moshe—my questions were kind of about the volumes and the competitive framework.
John Hecht: Afternoon. Nice to meet you, and thanks very much for taking my questions. Actually, Moshe just asked most of the questions. My questions were kind of about the volumes and the competitive framework, so you touched on that. You know, maybe something that's along those lines is, it's been a challenging cycle because I think largely because of affordability issues, you know, and high used car prices and, you know, the related. You know, what's your perspective on how that fluctuates in the coming periods? And, you know, does lower interest rates alleviate some of that, or, or there's any other factors to think about in that regard?
Speaker #8: So, you touched on that. Maybe something that's along those lines is, it's been a challenging cycle, I think largely because of affordability issues and high used car prices and the related.
Speaker #8: What's your guys'—what's your perspective on how that fluctuates in the coming periods? And does lower interest rates alleviate some of that? And are there any other factors to think about in that regard?
Speaker #5: Well, we believe we are well-positioned to serve the needs of the subprime customer. We have worked on cycles which are good for us and bad economic cycles, right?
Vinayak Hegde: Well, we believe we are well positioned to serve the needs of the subprime customer. You know, we have-- we work on cycles which are good for us and bad economic cycles, right? So our product is built to serve customers in all sorts of environments. And we will continue to, you know, kind of be focused on making the experience much more frictionless, partnering with the dealers, and still take a very conservative approach, right? Like, I mean, there are people-- there are companies which take more short-term approach. What we are thinking about is, irrespective of the cycle, being conservative, you know, maximize the intrinsic value and take a very conservative approach towards it.
Vinayak Hegde: Well, we believe we are well positioned to serve the needs of the subprime customer. You know, we have-- we work on cycles which are good for us and bad economic cycles, right? So our product is built to serve customers in all sorts of environments. And we will continue to, you know, kind of be focused on making the experience much more frictionless, partnering with the dealers, and still take a very conservative approach, right? Like, I mean, there are people-- there are companies which take more short-term approach. What we are thinking about is, irrespective of the cycle, being conservative, you know, maximize the intrinsic value and take a very conservative approach towards it.
Speaker #5: So our product is built to serve customers in all sorts of environments. And we will continue to kind of be focused on making the experience much more frictionless, partnering with the dealers.
Speaker #5: And still take a very conservative approach, right? I mean, there are companies which take a more short-term approach. What we are thinking about is, irrespective of the cycle, be conservative, maximize intrinsic value, and take a very conservative approach towards it.
Speaker #6: Okay. And then, Moshe—just checking, Moshe also asked about the balance sheet leverage. But do you, in terms of capital returns—in terms of accessing the capital markets, things of that nature—when I say capital returns, I guess I'm mostly talking about buybacks. Do you think there’ll be any change in the strategy under your leadership, or will it kind of stay the same?
John Hecht: Okay. And then any, you know, Moshe just checked-- Moshe also asked about the balance sheet, leverage. But, do you, you know, in terms of capital returns, in terms of, accessing the capital markets, things of that nature... When I mean capital returns, I guess I'm mostly talking about buybacks. Ed, do you think there'll be any change, in the strategy under your, under your leadership or, you know, kind of stay the course?
John Hecht: Okay. And then any, you know, Moshe just checked-- Moshe also asked about the balance sheet, leverage. But, do you, you know, in terms of capital returns, in terms of, accessing the capital markets, things of that nature... When I mean capital returns, I guess I'm mostly talking about buybacks. Ed, do you think there'll be any change, in the strategy under your, under your leadership or, you know, kind of stay the course?
Speaker #6: Course? We are going to stay.
Vinayak Hegde: We are going to stay the course. I don't think there's going to be any change in that.
Vinayak Hegde: We are going to stay the course. I don't think there's going to be any change in that.
Speaker #5: the course. I don't think there is going to be any
Speaker #5: change in that. And then
John Hecht: And then, final question. You know, after, you know, a period of time where the spread, the initial spread, has been declining, I think we've got a couple quarters now or a couple periods of time where we're starting to see the spread expand. Do you think, you know, is that trend, you know, gonna persist for a while? And is that related to better pricing or just better overall, you know, operating metrics within the business?
John Hecht: And then, final question. You know, after, you know, a period of time where the spread, the initial spread, has been declining, I think we've got a couple quarters now or a couple periods of time where we're starting to see the spread expand. Do you think, you know, is that trend, you know, gonna persist for a while? And is that related to better pricing or just better overall, you know, operating metrics within the business?
Speaker #6: Final question: After a period of time where the spread—the initial spread—has been declining, I think we've got a couple of quarters now, or a couple of periods of time, where we're starting to see the spread expand.
Speaker #6: Do you think you'll is that trend going to persist for a while? And is that related to better pricing or just better overall operating metrics within the
Speaker #6: business? Yeah.
Speaker #5: If you're focused on the initial spread, that relates to pricing. So, we don't provide any guidance on what our future pricing will be. You can look at the table and the price release.
Jay Martin: Yeah, if you're focused on the initial spread, that relates to pricing, so we don't provide any guidance on what our future pricing will be. You, you can look at the table in the press release. That'll show historically how we've been pricing.
Jay Martin: Yeah, if you're focused on the initial spread, that relates to pricing, so we don't provide any guidance on what our future pricing will be. You, you can look at the table in the press release. That'll show historically how we've been pricing.
Speaker #5: That'll show historically how we've been.
Speaker #5: pricing. Okay.
John Hecht: Okay, thanks.
John Hecht: Okay, thanks.
Speaker #3: Thank you. Our next question comes from Moshe Hornbrook with TD Conlin. You may proceed.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Moshe Orenbuch with TD Cowen. You may proceed.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Moshe Orenbuch with TD Cowen. You may proceed.
Speaker #6: Great. Thanks. Just as a follow-up, and it's kind of interesting. We've been thinking over the last few quarters. It's been a little I'd say a little bit unusual that the volumes and market share were under some pressure, but prepayments in the portfolio also were under pressure.
Moshe Orenbuch: Great, thanks. Just as a follow-up, Vinayak, it's kind of interesting. We've been thinking over the last few quarters, it's been a little, I'd say, a little bit unusual that, you know, volumes and market share were under some pressure, but prepayments in the portfolio also were under pressure. And I'm just wondering, does that tell you anything kind of different about the way either your consumer is behaving or the way kind of the industry is, you know, is behaving, and perhaps maybe the market share issues, you know, would be more persistent?
Moshe Orenbuch: Great, thanks. Just as a follow-up, Vinayak, it's kind of interesting. We've been thinking over the last few quarters, it's been a little, I'd say, a little bit unusual that, you know, volumes and market share were under some pressure, but prepayments in the portfolio also were under pressure. And I'm just wondering, does that tell you anything kind of different about the way either your consumer is behaving or the way kind of the industry is, you know, is behaving, and perhaps maybe the market share issues, you know, would be more persistent?
Speaker #6: And I'm just wondering, does that tell you anything kind of different about the way either your consumer is behaving or the way kind of the industry is behaving, and perhaps maybe the market share issues would be more—
Speaker #6: persistent? You're
Jay Martin: You're correct on the prepayments. We did see a decline there with our cash flow timing. If you just look at historical prepayments, they have increased year-over-year, but they're below our historical norms.
Speaker #5: correct. On the prepayments, we did see a decline there with our cash flow timing. If you just look at historical prepayments, they have increased.
Jay Martin: You're correct on the prepayments. We did see a decline there with our cash flow timing. If you just look at historical prepayments, they have increased year-over-year, but they're below our historical norms.
Speaker #5: Year over year, but they're below our historical.
Speaker #5: norms. It's tough, Moshe.
Jay Brinkley: It's tough, Moshe. I mean, all you can really read into that, and it's pure conjecture, is perhaps the customers are staying in their vehicles longer. Because if you follow the historical trends, as we've talked about before, typically you see prepays tick up as sort of a lag to a competitive environment. And we've been in a competitive environment for almost a year, yet we haven't seen that uptick. So it's tough to really see how this will play out. But it's, it... I'll leave it at that.
Jay Brinkley: It's tough, Moshe. I mean, all you can really read into that, and it's pure conjecture, is perhaps the customers are staying in their vehicles longer. Because if you follow the historical trends, as we've talked about before, typically you see prepays tick up as sort of a lag to a competitive environment. And we've been in a competitive environment for almost a year, yet we haven't seen that uptick. So it's tough to really see how this will play out. But it's, it... I'll leave it at that.
Speaker #7: I mean, all you can really read into that—and it's pure conjecture—is perhaps the customers are staying in their vehicles longer. Because if you follow historical trends, as we've talked about before, typically you see prepaids tick up as sort of a lag to a competitive environment.
Speaker #7: And we've been in a competitive environment for almost a year, yet we haven't seen that uptick. So it's tough to really see how this will play out.
Speaker #7: But I'll leave it at
Speaker #7: that. Okay.
Moshe Orenbuch: Okay. Thanks very much.
Moshe Orenbuch: Okay. Thanks very much.
Speaker #6: Thanks very
Speaker #6: much. Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. With no further questions in the queue, I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Martin for any additional or closing remarks.
Operator: Thank you. With no further questions in the queue, I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Martin for any additional or closing remarks.
Speaker #3: With no further questions in the queue, I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Martin for any additional or closing remarks.
Speaker #2: We'd like to thank everyone for their support and for joining us on our conference call today. If you have any additional follow-up questions, please direct them to our investor relations mailbox at ir@creditacceptance.com.
Jay Martin: We'd like to thank everyone for their support and for joining us on our conference call today. If you have any additional follow-up questions, please direct them to our investor relations mailbox at ir@creditacceptance.com. We look forward to talking to you again next quarter. Thank you.
Jay Martin: We'd like to thank everyone for their support and for joining us on our conference call today. If you have any additional follow-up questions, please direct them to our investor relations mailbox at ir@creditacceptance.com. We look forward to talking to you again next quarter. Thank you.
Speaker #2: We look forward to talking to you again next quarter. Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. Once again, this does conclude today's conference. We thank you for your participation.
Operator: Thank you. Once again, this does conclude today's conference. We thank you for your participation.
