Q4 2025 Clearway Energy Inc Earnings Call
Operator: Thank you for standing by, and welcome to Clearway Energy, Inc.'s Q4 2025 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone. To remove yourself from the queue, you may press star 11 again. I would now like to hand the call over to Akhil Marsh, Senior Director, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Thank you for standing by, and welcome to Clearway Energy, Inc.'s fourth quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.
Speaker #1: After the speaker presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone.
Speaker #1: To remove yourself from the queue, you may press star one one again. I would now like to hand the call over to Akil Marsh, Senior Director, Investor Relations.
Speaker #1: Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Thank you for taking the time to join Clearway Energy, Inc.'s fourth quarter call. With me today are Craig Cornelius, the company's president and CEO, and Sarah Rubenstein, the company's CFO.
Akhil Marsh: Thank you for taking the time to join Clearway Energy, Inc.'s Q4 call. With me today are Craig Cornelius, the company's President and CEO, and Sarah Rubenstein, the company's CFO. Before we begin, I'd like to quickly note that today's discussion will contain forward-looking statements, which are based on assumptions that we believe to be reasonable as of this date. Actual results may differ materially. Please review the safe harbor in today's presentation, as well as risk factors in our SEC filings. In addition, we will refer to both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. For information regarding our non-GAAP financial measures and reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures, please refer to today's presentation. In particular, please note that we may refer to both offered and committed transactions in today's oral presentation and also may discuss such transactions during the question-and-answer portion of today's conference.
Speaker #2: Before we begin, I’d like to quickly note that today’s discussion will contain forward-looking statements, which are based on assumptions that we believe to be reasonable as of this date.
Speaker #2: After results may differ materially. Please review the safe harbor in today's presentation, as well as risk factors in our SEC filings. In addition, we will refer to both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures.
Speaker #2: For information regarding our non-GAAP financial measures and reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures, please refer to today's presentation. In particular, please note that we may refer to both offered and committed transactions in today's oral presentation, and may also discuss such transactions during the question-and-answer portion of today's conference.
Speaker #2: Please refer to the Safe Harbor in today's presentation for a description of the categories of potential transactions and related risks, contingencies, and uncertainties. With that, I'll hand it over to Craig.
Akhil Marsh: Please refer to the safe harbor in today's presentation for a description of the categories of potential transactions and related risks, contingencies, and uncertainties. With that, I'll hand it over to Craig.
Speaker #1: Thanks, Akil. And good evening, everyone. I'll begin on slide 5, where we summarize our business performance and our progress towards near- and long-term growth objectives.
Craig Cornelius: Thanks, Akhil, good evening, everyone. I'll begin on slide 5, where we summarize our business performance and our progress towards near and long-term growth objectives. 2025 was a strong execution year for Clearway. We delivered full-year Cash Available for Distribution at the top end of our original guidance range, while our enterprise added 1.3 GW of value-enhancing projects to our fleet. These newly commissioned assets, combined with accretive third-party acquisitions, serve as key growth pillars for this year and allow us to reaffirm our 2026 CAFD guidance. Execution across our redundant growth pathways has also allowed us to reiterate our 2027 CAFD per share target of $2.70 or better. We also made continued progress, firming up our outlook towards meeting our 2030 CAFD per share target.
Speaker #1: 2025 was a strong execution year for Clearway. We delivered full-year cash available for distribution at the top end of our original guidance range, while our enterprise added 1.3 gigawatts of value-enhancing projects to our fleet.
Speaker #1: These newly commissioned assets, combined with accretive third-party acquisitions, serve as key growth pillars for this year and allow us to reaffirm our 2026 CAFD guidance.
Speaker #1: Execution across our redundant growth pathways has also allowed us to reiterate our 2027 CAFD per-share target of $2.70 or better. We also made continued progress, firming up our outlook towards meeting our 2030 CAFD per-share target.
Speaker #1: Our fleet enhancement program remains on track, with meaningful further advancement on both repowerings and contract extensions. Hyperscaler demand has been a major driver of sponsor-enabled growth this year.
Craig Cornelius: Our fleet enhancement program remains on track, with meaningful further advancement on both repowerings and contract extensions. Hyperscaler demand has been a major driver of sponsor-enabled growth this year. In 2025 alone, we signed approximately 2GW of new PPAs with hyperscalers and utilities serving data centers, and GW more in revenue contracting opportunities are under current discussion. When combined with Clearway's late-stage development projects, this opportunity set provides us with an abundant array of pathways to meet our 2030 objectives. Taken together, we remain on track toward our 2030 CAFD per share target of $2.90 to $3.10 per share, representing a 7% to 8% TIGER from 2025, while also laying the groundwork for sustained growth beyond 2030. Turning to Slide 6.
Speaker #1: In 2025 alone, we signed approximately 2 gigawatts of new PPAs with hyperscalers and utilities serving data centers, and gigawatts more in revenue contracting opportunities are under current discussion.
Speaker #1: When combined with Clearway's late-stage development projects, this opportunity set provides us with an abundant array of pathways to meet our 2030 objectives. Taken together, we remain on track toward our 2030 CAFD per-share target of $2.90 to $3.10 per share, representing a 7 to 8 percent CAGR from 2025, while also laying the groundwork for sustained growth beyond 2030.
Speaker #1: Turning to slide 6. Progress continues along our fleet optimization pathway. With repowerings on schedule for 2027 commercial operations, these repowerings, totaling more than 900 megawatts, are expected to deliver attractive CAFD yields in excess of 11%, while extending the useful life of our wind fleet.
Craig Cornelius: Progress continues along our fleet optimization pathway, with repowerings on schedule for 2027 commercial operations. These repowerings, totaling more than 900 MW, are expected to deliver attractive CAFD yields in excess of 11%, while extending the useful life of our wind fleet. In addition to repowerings, we are executing revenue enhancements across our operating ERCOT portfolio, where the value of Clearway's available open operating wind capacity has seen growing value appreciation in the technology and industrial customer community. Building on our momentum from last year with Wildorado, we've been awarded two offtake contracts in Texas, one with a prominent hyperscaler. With potential to lengthen the contracted life of these projects by as much as 11 years, and at a higher power price and more favorable settlement structure than our status quo revenue outlook. Turning to Slide 7. Sponsor-enabled growth continues to bolster our 2030 objectives.
Speaker #1: In addition to repowerings, we are executing revenue enhancements across our operating ERCOT portfolio, where the value of Clearway's available open operating wind capacity has seen growing value appreciation in the technology and industrial customer community.
Speaker #1: Building on our momentum from last year with Will Doredo, we've been awarded two off-take contracts in Texas, one with a prominent hyperscaler, with potential to lengthen the contracted life of these projects by as much as 11 years, and at a higher power price and more favorable settlement structure than our status quo revenue outlook.
Speaker #1: Turning to slide 7. Sponsor-enabled growth continues to bolster our 2030 objectives. All of our CWEN-committed projects are under construction and progressing on track through milestones to meet our commercial operations state targets.
Craig Cornelius: All of our CWEN committed projects are under construction and progressing on track through milestones to meet our commercial operations date targets. For the 2027 COD vintage, CWEN has now received an offer for investment in the Royal Slope project. While we have now also identified the second phase of the Honeycomb Two battery portfolio as a future potential CWEN investment opportunity, as the portfolio has been awarded revenue contracts with an offer expected later in 2026 as commercialization progresses. We first previewed the Honeycomb project in May 2024. With phase one almost complete in construction now, we are pleased to be on track to execute the second phase, developing and building battery assets adjacent to Clearway's existing Utah solar fleet, now with an outlook for hybridizing the entire fleet.
Speaker #1: For the 2027 COD vintage, CWEN has now received an offer for investment in the Royal Slope project, while we have now also identified the second phase of the Honeycomb 2 battery portfolio as a future potential CWEN investment opportunity.
Speaker #1: As the portfolio has been awarded revenue contracts with an offer expected later in 2026 as commercialization progresses. We first previewed the Honeycomb projects in May 2024.
Speaker #1: With phase one almost complete in construction now, we are pleased to be on track to execute the second phase, developing and building battery assets adjacent to Clearway's existing Utah solar fleet now with an outlook for hybridizing the entire fleet.
Speaker #1: Looking to 2028, newly identified opportunities for investment by CWEN at Swan Energy Center and Catamount Energy Center are now in view. Both are supported by 20-year PPAs with Google, further extending our sponsor-enabled growth runway.
Craig Cornelius: Looking to 2028, newly identified opportunities for investment by CWEN at Swan Energy Center and Catamount Energy Center are now in view, both supported by 20-year PPAs with Google, further extending our sponsor-enabled growth runway. Turning to Slide 8, we provide more detail on how commercialization across our development pipeline is translating into a visible and executable pathway towards long-term growth. In our 2026 and 2027 construction vintages, 100% of our planned repowering and new construction projects have been successfully commercialized. With all development preparation now completed and construction dates set, these projects have safe harbored tax credit qualification, advanced interconnection and permitting status, signed long-term PPAs, and secured policy-resilient equipment supply.
Speaker #1: Turning to slide 8, we provide more detail on how commercialization across our development pipeline is translating into a visible and executable pathway toward long-term growth.
Speaker #1: In our 2026 and 2027 construction vintages, 100% of our planned repowering and new construction projects have been successfully commercialized. With all development preparation now completed and construction dates set, these projects have safe-harbored tax credit qualification, advanced interconnection and permitting status, signed long-term PPAs, and secured policy-resilient equipment supply.
Speaker #1: Looking further out, our 2028 and 2029 construction vintages are supported by a sizable pipeline that is meaningfully larger than what is required to meet our 2030 CAFD per-share goal.
Craig Cornelius: Looking further out, our 2028 and 2029 construction vintages are supported by a sizable pipeline that is meaningfully larger than what is required to meet our 2030 CAFD per share goal. With contracting secured for Swan and Catamount, we've contracted nearly 50% of the megawatts classified as late stage within the 2028 COD vintage, firming up our 2030 CAFD per share outlook with high confidence on completion of the remainder of the late stage projects we are directing to 2028. We have high conviction in our organization's ability to secure additional revenue contracts for the balance of our late stage pipeline in this vintage, as the remaining projects in that vintage are weighted towards projects in California and other Western markets, which have been a long-demonstrated core strength of our enterprise and commercialization.
Speaker #1: With contracting secured for Swan and Catamount, we've contracted nearly 50% of the megawatts classified as late-stage within the 2028 COD vintage, firming up our 2030 CAFD per-share outlook with high confidence on completion of the remainder of the late-stage projects we are directing to 2028.
Speaker #1: We have high conviction in our organization's ability to secure additional revenue contracts for the balance of our late-stage pipeline in this vintage, as the remaining projects in that vintage are weighted towards projects in California and other Western markets, which have been a long-demonstrated core strength of our enterprise and commercialization.
Speaker #1: We see clear pathways for this vintage to generate substantial CAFD towards our 2030 target, given the amount of corporate capital we have line of sight to deploying in that year.
Craig Cornelius: We see clear pathways for this vintage to generate substantial CAFD towards our 2030 target, given the amount of corporate capital we have line of sight to deploying in that year. Within the 2029 COD vintage, we have built in resiliency with development activity of over 7 GW, substantially larger than the volume needed to meet our 2030 target. We see pathways to deploy well over $600 million in corporate capital in that year, subject to availability and application of our characteristic prudent capital allocation framework. From this position of strength, we will invest in attractive projects that show clear accretion to CAFD per share, both in the near and long term. Beyond the 2029 COD vintage, we are encouraged by the prospect we have to further extend our growth outlook after 2030 through diverse pathways.
Speaker #1: Within the 2029 COD vintage, we have built-in resiliency with development activity of over 7 gigawatts, substantially larger than the volume needed to meet our 2030 target.
Speaker #1: And we see pathways to deploy well over 600 million in corporate capital in that year subject to availability and application of our characteristic prudent capital allocation framework.
Speaker #1: From this position of strength, we will invest in attractive projects that show clear accretion to CAFD per share both in the near and long term.
Speaker #1: Beyond the 2029 COD vintage, we are encouraged by the prospect we have to further extend our growth outlook after 2030 through diverse pathways. Foundationally, we continue to focus our core development activities on proven technologies, in geographic markets where renewable projects and storage projects are cost-competitive.
Craig Cornelius: Foundationally, we continue to focus our core development activities on proven technologies in geographic markets where renewable projects and storage projects are cost competitive. Our sizable pipeline of storage projects creates an especially compelling value proposition for customers into the next decade. Approximately 90% of our 2030 late stage pipeline is either located in our strategic core geographic markets, where renewable energy will be a least-cost, best-fit resource without tax credits, or is a storage project positioned for tax credit qualification well into the next decade. Collectively, this purpose-built growth investment opportunity set provides substantial redundancy relative to the approximately 2 GW per year or more that we expect to develop into the 2030s. Beyond core development activities, Clearway Group continues to develop multi-technology generation complexes across five states to serve growing and rapidly escalating data center infrastructure demand.
Speaker #1: Our sizable pipeline of storage projects creates an especially compelling value proposition for customers into the next decade. Approximately 90% of our 2030 late-stage pipeline is either located in our strategic core geographic markets, where renewable energy will be a least-cost, best-fit resource without tax credits, or is a storage project positioned for tax credit qualification well into the next decade.
Speaker #1: Collectively, this purpose-built growth investment opportunity set provides substantial redundancy relative to the approximately 2 gigawatts per year or more that we expect to develop into the 2030s.
Speaker #1: Beyond core development activities, Clearway Group continues to develop multi-technology generation complexes across five states to serve growing and rapidly escalating data center infrastructure demand.
Speaker #1: As illustrated in our appendix pipeline reporting materials, the complexes are comprised of diverse technologies configured to provide hyperscalers competitively priced firm power in places where digital infrastructure is set to grow in years ahead.
Craig Cornelius: As illustrated in our appendix pipeline reporting materials, the complexes are comprised of diverse technologies configured to provide hyperscalers competitively priced firm power in places where digital infrastructure is set to grow in years ahead. The first-generation resources at these complexes could come online as soon as late 2028. Investment timing for CWEN will be determined by pacing of generator interconnection, customer engagement, and our own prudent management of capital deployment capacity of Clearway Energy, Inc. In regards to potential corporate capital deployment tied to both accelerating grid-tied project development and large co-located digital infrastructure complexes, we are well-placed to deploy at least $650 million of capital incremental to our prior goals over 2028 to 2030, with the optionality to scale that amount higher, subject to availability of accretive capital sources and our rigorous underwriting criteria and capital allocation framework.
Speaker #1: The first-generation resources at these complexes could come online as soon as late 2028. And investment timing for CWEN will be determined by pacing of generator interconnection, customer engagement, and our own prudent management of capital deployment capacity of Clearway Energy, Inc. In regards to potential corporate capital deployment tied to both accelerating grid-tied project development and large co-located digital infrastructure complexes, we are well placed to deploy at least $650 million of capital incremental to our prior goals over 2028 to 2030.
Speaker #1: With the optionality to scale that amount higher subject to availability of accretive capital sources, and our rigorous underwriting criteria and capital allocation framework. Accelerating progress in our core development pipeline, along with this activity to directly serve data center demand, drives our increased conviction in the growth longevity of our platform into 2031 and the years beyond.
Craig Cornelius: Accelerating progress in our core development pipeline, along with this activity to directly serve data center demand, drives our increased conviction in the growth longevity of our platform into 2031 and the years beyond. Turning to slide 9, we bring together the building blocks that underpin our 2030 CAFD per share target and our outlook beyond 2030. From our 2027 target of $2.70 per share or better, our identified and committed projects provide an increasingly clear pathway to $2.90 to $3.10 of CAFD per share by 2030. Within the 2027 and 2028 time frame, we have identified approximately $1.3 billion of corporate capital investment opportunities tied to commercialized projects that Clearway Energy, Inc. intends to deploy at a 10.5% CAFD yield or better.
Speaker #1: Turning to slide 9, we bring together the building blocks that underpin our 2030 CAFD per 2030. From our 2027 target of $2.70 per share or better, our identified and committed projects provide an increasingly clear pathway to $2.90 to $3.10 of CAFD per share by 2030.
Speaker #1: Within the 2027 and 2028 timeframe, we have identified approximately $1.3 billion of corporate capital investment opportunities tied to commercialized projects that Clearway Energy, Inc. intends to deploy at a 10.5% CAFD yield or better.
Speaker #1: Given identified growth to date, we are in a prime position to meet our 2030 target. We believe that future milestones will be executed in a manner supportive of hitting our 2030 goal, including through future identified sponsor-enabled growth, potential third-party M&A not embedded in our target, and accretive growth financing and refinancing our 2028 and 2031 corporate bonds.
Craig Cornelius: Given identified growth to date, we are in a prime position to meet our 2030 target. We believe that future milestones will be executed in a manner supportive of hitting our 2030 goal, including through future identified sponsor-enabled growth, potential third-party M&A not embedded in our target, and accretive growth financing and refinancing our 2028 and 2031 corporate bonds. As has been our practice in the past, we plan on waiting until later this year to provide a formal long-term guidance update. Given the emerging potential for corporate capital investment around our accelerating core development work and the emerging opportunity for investment in digital infrastructure power supply, we are increasingly optimistic on the ability to grow CAFD per share at 5 to 8+% in 2031 and the years beyond from our 2030 target baseline.
Speaker #1: As has been our practice in the past, we plan on waiting until later this year to provide a formal long-term guidance update. But given the emerging potential for corporate capital investment around our accelerating core development work and the emerging opportunity for investment in digital infrastructure power supply, we are increasingly optimistic on the ability to grow CAFD per share at 5 to 8 plus percent in 2031 and the years beyond from our 2030 target baseline.
Speaker #1: With that, I'll turn the call over to Sarah, who will walk through our financial results and funding outlook in more detail.
Craig Cornelius: With that, I'll turn the call over to Sarah, who will walk through our financial results and funding outlook in more detail.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Craig. Turning to slide 11, for the fourth quarter, Clearway delivered adjusted EBITDA of $237 million, and cash available for distribution or free cash flow of $35 million.
Sarah Rubenstein: Thank you, Craig. Turning to slide 11, for Q4, Clearway delivered adjusted EBITDA of $237 million, and cash available for distribution or free cash flow of $35 million. In our renewables and storage segments in the quarter, wind resource was below median expectations across the fleet, including California, while solar, relative to budget expectations, was impacted by the timing of debt service related to growth investments. In the quarter, flexible generation exhibited solid operational execution in line with budgeted expectations. For the full year, our results came in above the midpoint of our original guidance range of $400 to $440 million, with full-year CAFD generation of $430 million, which benefited from on-time commercial operations and excellent performance of recent growth investments, and was also driven by solid annual fleet performance across the portfolio.
Speaker #2: In our renewables and storage segment in the quarter, wind resource was below median expectations across the fleet, including California, while solar relative to budget expectations was impacted by the timing of debt service related to growth investments.
Speaker #2: In the quarter, flexible generation exhibited solid operational execution in line with budgeted expectations. For the full year, our results came in above the midpoint of our original guidance range of $400 to $440 million, with full-year CAFD generation of $430 million.
Speaker #2: Which benefited from on-time commercial operations and excellent performance of recent growth investments. And was also driven by solid annual fleet performance across the portfolio.
Speaker #2: With the solid conclusion to 2025, we're reiterating our 2026 CAFD guidance range of $470 to $510 million. As per our usual practice, guidance incorporates incremental contributions from closed and committed dropdowns and third-party acquisitions.
Sarah Rubenstein: With the solid conclusion to 2025, we're reiterating our 2026 CAFD guidance range of $470 to $510 million. As per our usual practice, guidance incorporates incremental contributions from closed and committed drop-downs and third-party acquisitions. Our guidance midpoint assumes P50 renewable production expectations, and the range reflects potential variability in resource performance, energy pricing, and timing of growth investments. Turning to slide 12. We are very proud of how Clearway's operations team has performed with excellence, resulting in high levels of plant availability across all technologies throughout 2025. The team maintains a high level of excellence in both health and safety, and plant availability and performance. This was a key driver that allowed us to deliver full-year results in 2025 that were above the midpoint of our original guidance.
Speaker #2: Our guidance midpoint assumes P50 renewable production expectations, and the range reflects potential variability in resource performance, energy pricing, and timing of growth investments. Turning to slide 12, we are very proud of how Clearway's operations team has performed with excellence, resulting in high levels of planned availability across all technologies throughout 2025.
Speaker #2: The team maintains a high level of excellence in both health and safety, and planned availability and performance. This was a key driver that allowed us to deliver full-year results in 2025 that were above the midpoint of our original guidance.
Speaker #2: We are extremely proud and grateful for the diligent work by this team to maintain and operate our fleet, in particular as we manage the challenges of winter storms, where regions with high clean power penetration are able to keep electricity prices lower.
Sarah Rubenstein: We are extremely proud and grateful for the diligent work by this team to maintain and operate our fleet, in particular, as we manage the challenges of winter storms, where regions with high clean power penetration are able to keep electricity prices lower. Turning to slide 13. We continue to be in an excellent position to prudently fund our growth and have raised additional capital since our last call, firming up our funding outlook. We continue to target a long-term payout ratio below 70% after 2030, resulting in retained cash flows continuing to become a greater source of funding for our accretive investments. Corporate debt continues to be a pillar of growth funding, while we remain focused on honoring our commitment to target a BB credit rating.
Speaker #2: Turning to slide 13, we continue to be in an excellent position to prudently fund our growth and have raised additional capital since our last call, firming up our funding outlook.
Speaker #2: We continue to target a long-term payout ratio below 70% after 2030, resulting in retained cash flows continuing to become a greater source of funding for our creative investments.
Speaker #2: Corporate debt continues to be a pillar of growth funding, while we remain focused on honoring our commitment to target a double-B credit rating.
Speaker #2: In January, we closed an upsized offering of $600 million in senior unsecured notes due in 2034 at an attractive rate relative to assumptions in our funding plan that supports our longer-term target growth.
Sarah Rubenstein: In January, we closed an upsized offering of $600 million in senior unsecured notes due in 2034, at an attractive rate relative to assumptions in our funding plan that supports our longer-term target growth. The spread to Treasuries was the second tightest high yield issuance spread in the broader power sector since 2020, demonstrating the quality of our credit. To round out our funding plan, we expect to continue to use equity issuances as a tool to meet our growth objectives, but only when accretive to CAFD growth. Since our last earnings call, we executed $50 million of opportunistic equity issuances that were the least dilutive issuances in our platform's history, while extending our position of strength to have further flexibility on the timing of future issuances.
Speaker #2: The spread to treasuries was the second tightest high-yield issuance spread in the broader power sector since 2020, demonstrating the quality of our credit. To round out our funding plan, we expect to continue to use equity issuances as a tool to meet our growth objectives, but only when accretive to CAFD growth.
Speaker #2: Since our last earnings call, we executed $50 million of opportunistic equity issuances that were the least diluted issuances in our platform's history, while extending our position of strength to have further flexibility on the timing of future issuances.
Speaker #2: Since late August, we've now issued $100 million of equity in less than two months of trading days, while our stock price is up over 30%, illustrating our ability to deftly issue equity without price disturbance.
Sarah Rubenstein: Since late August, we've now issued $100 million of equity in less than two months of trading days, while our stock price is up over 30%, illustrating our ability to deftly issue equity without price disturbance. Looking further out, as we outlined last quarter, we will raise additional debt and equity in the coming years to meet our 2030 goals. To reiterate, we plan to be unwavering in our disciplined approach to meet funding goals and to execute our funding strategy in a transparent manner, similar to what is observed among listed utilities. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Craig for closing remarks.
Speaker #2: Looking further out, and as we outlined last quarter, we will raise additional debt and equity in the coming years to meet our 2030 goals, but to reiterate, we plan to be unwavering in our discipline approach to meet funding goals and to execute our funding strategy in a transparent manner.
Speaker #2: Similar to what is observed among listed utilities. And with that, I'll turn the call back over to Craig for closing remarks.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Sarah. To recap progress on the goals we've set, we delivered 2025 results at the top half of our CAFD guidance range, and fully funded all sponsor-enabled dropdowns, which are performing extremely well.
Craig Cornelius: Thanks, Sarah. To recap progress on the goals we've set, we delivered 2025 results at the top half of our CAFD guidance range and fully funded all sponsor-enabled drop-downs, which are performing extremely well. We also executed value-added third-party M&A that strengthens our fleet and supports long-term value creation. Looking ahead, substantially all projects identified for CWEN investment through 2027 are now commercialized, and Clearway Group's late-stage pipeline is significantly larger than what we need for 2028 and 2029 completion to achieve our 2030 goals. As we look forward, we intend to continue increasing visibility into our growth trajectory, including rolling forward explicit CAFD per share targets beyond 2030 as commercialization progresses later this year.
Speaker #3: We also executed value-added third-party M&A that strengthens our fleet and supports long-term value creation. Looking ahead, substantially all projects identified for C1 investment through 2027 are now commercialized.
Speaker #3: And Clearway Group's late-stage pipeline is significantly larger than what we need for 2028 and 2029 completion to achieve our 2030 goals. As we look forward, we intend to continue increasing visibility into our growth trajectory, including rolling forward explicit CAFD per share targets beyond 2030 as commercialization progresses later this year.
Speaker #3: Taken together, these factors make us confident in the longevity of Clearway's long-term growth prospects, enabling us to deliver durable value for our shareholders well beyond 2030.
Craig Cornelius: Taken together, these factors make us confident in the longevity of Clearway's long-term growth prospects, enabling us to deliver durable value for our shareholders well beyond 2030. Operator, you may open up the line for questions.
Speaker #3: Operator, you may open up the line for questions.
Speaker #4: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star 11 on your telephone. To remove yourself from the queue, you may press star 11 again.
Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. To remove yourself from the queue, you may press star one one again. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up to allow everyone the opportunity to participate. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Mark Jarvi of CIBC. Your question, please, Mark.
Speaker #4: Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up to allow everyone the opportunity to participate. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster.
Speaker #4: Our first question, comes from the line of Mark Jarvey, of CIBC. Your question, please, Mark.
Speaker #5: Yeah, thanks for getting me, everyone. Lots of good disclosure. I appreciate everything. Clearly, the the organic growth is ramping here. I'm just curious on the M&A outlook.
Mark Jarvi: Yeah, thanks. Good evening, everyone. Lots of good disclosure. I appreciate everything. Clearly, organic growth is, is ramping here. I'm just curious on the M&A outlook. Done some deals in the last 2 quarters. Just curious how the environment looks now. Clearly, you're seeing an, an attractive cost to capital from the equity debt markets. Is that changing your approach and position around M&A right now?
Speaker #5: Done some deals that allow us a couple of quarters. Just curious how the environment looks now. Clearly, you're seeing an attractive cost-to-capital growth on the equity and debt markets.
Speaker #5: Is that changing your approach or position around M&A right now?
Speaker #3: Yeah, thanks for the acknowledgment on the organic growth front, Mark. We're really proud of the work that the organization is doing to chart that course.
Craig Cornelius: Yeah, thanks for the acknowledgment on the organic growth front, Mark. We're really proud of the work that the organization is doing to chart that course. You know, I think, with respect to M&A, the environment of today looks quite similar to what the environment looked like last year. As you note, that sets up well for us as an organization that's in a position to help sustain operating assets that are in the market already, or to engage on combinations of operating and development assets, which an organization like ours is uniquely positioned to advance. At the same time, the strength that we are demonstrating in our own organic growth outlook puts us in a position to be every bit as disciplined as we were last year when evaluating opportunities.
Speaker #3: And I think with respect to M&A, the environment of today looks quite similar to what the environment looked like last year. As you note, that sets up well for us as an organization that's in a position to help sustain operating assets that are in the market already, or to engage on combinations of operating and development assets, which an organization like ours is uniquely positioned to advance.
Speaker #3: And at the same time, to strengthen that, we are demonstrating in our own organic growth outlook, which puts us in a position to be every bit as disciplined as we were last year when evaluating opportunities, because we're in the luxurious position of evaluating M&A as something that would need to be demonstrably accretive to the outlook that we have already.
Craig Cornelius: Because we're in the luxurious position of evaluating M&A as something that would need to be demonstrably accretive to the outlook that we have already and something that presents a really compelling proposition for our shareholders to fund. We like what today's environment does for large enterprises. It's certainly favorable that there is a large universe of subscale peers that need to evaluate whether they're really in a position to successfully compete and grow in our industry in the future.
Speaker #3: And something that presents a really compelling proposition for our shareholders to fund. So we like what today's environment does for large enterprises. It certainly favorable that there is a large universe of subscale peers that need to evaluate whether they're really in a position to successfully compete and grow in our industry in the future.
Craig Cornelius: Because our outlook for organic growth is so bright, where we do engage on opportunities like that, we're engaging on them with a high bar and insistence that any potential capital allocation to M&A that would be in exceedance of our existing capital allocation plans and goals would re-represent a very compelling investment proposition for our company and our investors.
Speaker #3: And because our outlook for organic growth is so bright, where we do engage on opportunities like that, we're engaging on them with a high bar and an insistence that any potential capital allocation to M&A that would be in exceedance of our existing capital allocation plans and goals would represent a very compelling investment proposition for our company and our investors.
Speaker #5: Got it. And then just a quick question, just on page six—the PPAs and ERCOT—these, comment in terms of when those would kick in and maybe quantify if that's enough to move CAFD by a percentage or contribute to the growth outlook for the company?
Mark Jarvi: Got it. Just, just a other quick question. Just on page six, the PPAs in ERCOT, can you just comment in terms of when those would kick in and maybe quantify, is that enough to move CAFD by a percentage or contribute to the growth outlook for the company?
Craig Cornelius: In each instance where we're working on those, they would be effective this year. The way we think about those instances is that they're huge quality of earnings enhancements because the settlement structures on each of those revenue contracts are favorable to those that the projects have today, and the new unit-contingent long-term contract duration for the projects would extend well into the next decade as a result of the recontracting. For any 1 project, the magnitude of its contribution in CAFD per share varies from 1 instance to another. Also, as you look over time into the late 2030s, as a function of your point of view on merchant pricing in ERCOT. When we think about the goals that we set.
Speaker #3: In each instance where we're working on those, they would be effective this year. And the way we think about those instances is that they're huge quality of earnings enhancements because the settlement structures on each of those revenue contracts are favorable to those that the projects have today and the new unit contingent long-term contract duration for the projects would extend well into the next decade as a result of the recontracting.
Speaker #3: And for any one project, the magnitude of its contribution in CAFD per share varies from one instance to another. And also as you look over time into the late 2030s as a function of your point of view on merchant pricing and ERCOT, so when we think about the goals that we set for 2030 and beyond, our successfully completing those recontractings is part of what helps us build confidence that we're really aiming at $3.10 the top end of our target range or better.
Craig Cornelius: for 2030 and beyond, are successfully completing those recontractings is part of what helps us build confidence that we're really aiming at, you know, $3.10 at the top end of our target range or better in those out years, and helps us build confidence in our long-term CAFD per share growth goals because of the certainty that we can assign to revenues from those facilities into the future.
Speaker #3: And those out years help us build confidence in our long-term CAFD per share growth goals, because of the certainty that we can assign to revenues from those facilities into the future.
Speaker #5: So it's as much about the quality of the CAFD being enhanced or de-risking relative to the increased magnitude of the CAFD. Is that a fair way to?
Mark Jarvi: It's as much about the quality of the CAFD being enhanced or de-risking, relative to the increased magnitude of the CAFD. Is that a fair way...
Speaker #3: Yeah. Yeah. And I think it reduces the exposure to merchant pricing in other parts of our portfolio in the future. So they will most definitely be helpful to our CAFD expectations in the near term, but not especially material in the context of a business that's targeting what we are and operating CAFD this year and next.
Craig Cornelius: Yeah. Yeah. I think it, you know, reduces the exposure to merchant pricing in other parts of our portfolio in the future. They will most definitely be helpful to our CAFD expectations in the near term, but not especially material in the context of a business that's targeting what we are in operating CAFD this year and next. Think single-digit millions in CAFD enhancement, but the very long-term benefit is substantial. We also like what it signals in terms of the inherent value of an operating fleet like ours and its attractiveness to customers that are trying to plan power for the long term.
Speaker #3: So think single-digit millions in CAFD enhancement. But the very long-term benefit is substantial and we also like what it signals in terms of the inherent value of an operating fleet like ours and its attractiveness to customers that are trying to plan power for the long term.
Speaker #5: Makes sense. Thanks for the time tonight.
Mark Jarvi: Makes sense. Okay. Thanks for the time today.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Mark.
Craig Cornelius: Thank you, Mark.
Speaker #4: Thank you. Our next question, comes from the line of Julianne Dumoulin-Smith, of Jefferies. Your line is open at Julianne.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Julianne Dumoulin-Smith of Jefferies. Your line is open, Julianne.
Speaker #6: Hi, everyone. Thank you. This is Hannah Velasquez on for Julianne. Congrats on the quarter and thank you for the update. So I had a similar question, but a bit more about the PPA pricing environment.
Hannah Velasquez: Hi, everyone. Thank you. This is Hannah Velasquez on for Julianne. Congrats on the quarter, and thank you for the update. I had a similar question, but a bit more about the PPA pricing environment. Can you give us a sense of what you're seeing out in the market? It sounds like ERCOT has been favorable to you, but are there any other markets to identify or call out where you're seeing similar favorable pricing? What's driving that? Similarly, are you seeing, just in the sense of elevated demand, an acceleration in some of your conversations with your off-takers that they're trying to renegotiate or recontract ahead of plan? Thank you.
Speaker #6: Can you give us a sense of what you're seeing out in the market? It sounds like ERCOT has been favorable to you. But are there any other markets to identify or call out where you're seeing similar favorable pricing?
Speaker #6: What's driving that? And then, similarly, are you seeing, just in the sense of elevated demand, an acceleration in some of your conversations with your off-takers—that they're trying to renegotiate or re-contract ahead of plan?
Speaker #6: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Yeah. And thanks for the acknowledgment. We're really happy with the work that our team did over the last quarter. Yeah. I think we're seeing a supportive pricing environment really across all geographies.
Craig Cornelius: Yeah. Yeah, thanks, thanks for the acknowledgment. We're really happy with the work that our team did over the last quarter. Yeah, you know, I think we're seeing a supportive pricing environment really across all geographies for development assets that provide additionality in power markets, whether they're deregulated or regulated. Really, anything that we can interconnect and construct over the course of the next 3 years exhibits very significant differentiated value, whether it's to a regulated utility who's the natural customer in a regulated market, or to a technology enterprise, or another source of growing industrial load in deregulated markets where we can sell directly to those customers.
Speaker #3: For development assets that provide additionality in power markets, whether they're deregulated or regulated, really anything that we can interconnect and construct over the course of the next three years exhibits very significant differentiated value, whether it's to a regulated utility who's the natural customer in a regulated market, or to a technology enterprise or another source of growing industrial load in deregulated markets where we can sell directly to those customers.
Craig Cornelius: Rough rule of thumb is that pricing on PPAs that we signed this year, in comparison to pricing on PPAs in those same comparable markets signed 3 years ago, is about double. We're not seeing pricing necessarily escalate higher observably today than where it was, say, 3 to 4 months ago, but it is very much solid and sustained, and we think that's healthy. You know, the at-attributes of the power plants that we're constructing today are, are valuable, and all of us across the sector need to be focused on delivering an affordable energy equation for customers.
Speaker #3: Rough rule of thumb is that pricing on PPAs that we sign this year in comparison to pricing on PPAs in those same comparable markets signed three years ago is about double.
Speaker #3: We're not seeing pricing necessarily escalate higher observably today than where it was, say, three to four months ago, but it is very much solid and sustained.
Speaker #3: And we think that's healthy. The attributes of the power plants that were constructing today are valuable. And all of us across the sector need to be focused on delivering an affordable energy equation for customers.
Speaker #3: So what we'd say about pricing is, it is robust. It is staying strong, and we feel quite good about the return proposition we produce for our investors.
Craig Cornelius: What we'd say about pricing is it is robust, it is staying strong, and we feel quite good about the return proposition we produce for our investors and the value proposition that we give our customers at these levels. In terms of its influence on operating asset, long-term revenue contracting, we similarly see that that picture is pretty consistent across geographies. There isn't much motivation either from us as a seller or from customers to be talking about contract extensions on projects that see their PPAs expire later than 2030, say.
Speaker #3: And the value proposition that we give our customers at these levels—in terms of its influence on operating asset long-term revenue contracting—we similarly see that that picture is pretty consistent across geographies.
Speaker #3: There isn't much motivation either from us as a seller or from customers to be talking about contract extensions on projects that see their PPAs expire later than 2030, say.
Speaker #3: But where we do have open length that can serve demand in the near term, it certainly creates an opportunity to sell that length well into the 2030s and at a price that is solid and allows us to sustain earnings well into the future.
Craig Cornelius: Where we do have open length that can serve demand in the near term, it certainly creates an opportunity to sell that length well into the 2030s and at a price that is solid and allows us to sustain earnings well into the future. Then in terms of pull forward for demand, we are most definitely seeing that there's a growing focus on how much can be built and how soon it can be built, extending out for resources that could COD at least through 2029 today. I think part of what makes us as confident as we are around the upside in capital deployment opportunity for Clearway Energy, Inc.
Speaker #3: And then in terms of pull forward for demand, we are most definitely seeing that there's a growing focus on how much can be built and how soon it can be built, extending out for resources that could COD at least through 2029 today.
Speaker #3: And I think part of what makes us as confident as we are around the upside in capital deployment opportunity for Clearway Energy, Inc. in excess of the 2.5 billion dollars worth of corporate capital investments that we'd pointed to just last quarter is the strength of that demand and essentially as I'd noted before, the readiness of customers to buy power from pretty much anything that we can interconnect and permit and construct between now and the end of 2029 at this point.
Craig Cornelius: in excess of the $2.5 billion worth of corporate capital investments that we'd pointed to just last quarter, is the strength of that demand, and essentially, as I noted before, the readiness of customers to buy power from pretty much anything that we can interconnect and permit and construct between now and the end of 2029 at this point.
Speaker #6: Okay. Got it. Super detailed. Thank you. And as a follow-up, can you just speak to the permitting landscape? How have things progressed or changed over the past couple of months?
Hannah Velasquez: Okay, got it. Super detailed. Thank you. As a follow-up, can you just speak to the permitting landscape? How have things progressed or changed over the past couple of months? How much runway do you have reflected in your pipeline, just to the extent that we're hearing about pipe or permitting challenges, particularly on the solar front?
Speaker #6: How much runway do you have reflected in your pipeline? Just to the extent that we're hearing about permitting challenges, particularly on the solar front.
Speaker #3: Yeah. I think this is one way we're especially proud of our business. And where we are optimistic that you'll see us outperform many of our peers over the quarters and years ahead.
Craig Cornelius: Yeah. I think this is one way, one way we're especially proud of our business and where we are optimistic that you'll see us outperform many of our peers over the quarters and years ahead. As we'd noted before, the business plan we've laid out that would allow us to target the top end or better of our 2030 CAFD per share goals, to be able to sustain 5% to 8%+ CAFD per share growth into the 2030s. We need to build about 2 GW a year worth of projects. At the project sizes that we're increasingly developing, that could translate into, say, something like 6 projects a year on average.
Speaker #3: As we’d noted before, the business plan we’d laid out would allow us to target the top end or better of our 2030 CAFTE per share goals, and to be able to sustain 5 to 8 percent-plus CAFTE per share growth into the 2030s.
Speaker #3: We need to build about two gigawatts a year worth of projects. And at the project sizes that we're increasingly developing, that could translate into, say, something like six projects a year on average.
Speaker #3: And we are finding that we've got a point of view around our ability to do better than that as we look later into the decade.
Craig Cornelius: We are finding that we've got a point of view around our ability to do better than that as we look later into the decade. A lot of that is a function of the very effective work we've done on the ground in the places where we're creating projects. You see on page 17 of our earnings slides, a map of the late-stage pipeline we're advancing. In each one of those jurisdictions, we feel quite confident and solid about the work that we're doing in those local communities to enable those resources.
Speaker #3: And a lot of that is a function of the very effective work we've done on the ground in the places where we're creating projects.
Speaker #3: You see on page 17 of our earnings slides a map of the late-stage pipeline we're advancing. And in each one of those jurisdictions, we feel quite confident and solid about the work that we're doing in those local communities to enable those resources.
Speaker #3: And we also feel really great about the relationship that we've forged at the federal level with an administration whose energy policy objectives we fully understand and sympathize with.
Craig Cornelius: We also feel really great about the relationship that we've forged at the federal level with an administration whose energy policy objectives we fully understand and sympathize with, and I think has been able to see in our company an enterprise that respects their goals and is prepared to work on enabling their own. We feel very good about our ability to execute in the current permitting environment, and, we think that that is a unique differentiator of our enterprise.
Speaker #3: And I think it has been able to see in our company an enterprise that respects their goals and is prepared to work on enabling their own.
Speaker #3: So we feel very good about our ability to execute in the current permitting environment. And we think that that is a unique differentiator of our enterprise.
Speaker #6: Thank you.
Hannah Velasquez: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Justin Clare of Roth Capital Partners. Your line is open, Justin.
Speaker #7: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Justin Clare with Roth Capital Partners. Your line is open, Justin.
Speaker #8: Hi. Good afternoon. So one of the hi. So just wanted to start on the co-located data center complexes just how should we think about the return profile of those relative to traditional dropdowns of wind, solar, or storage assets and relative to the 10.5% CAFTE yields that you've talked about?
Justin Clare: Hi, good afternoon.
Craig Cornelius: Hi, Justin.
Justin Clare: Hi. Just wanted to start on the co-located data center complexes. Just how should we think about the return profile of those relative to traditional drop-downs as wind, solar, or storage assets, and relative to the 10.5% CAFD yields that you've talked about? And then also just curious on the ownership structure we should be thinking about for Seawind, for one of these complexes that includes renewables and gas and storage. Would you anticipate Seawind owning, you know, the entirety of, you know, all of those assets, or could the gas component be owned by a utility? How should we be thinking about that?
Speaker #8: And then also, just curious on the ownership structure we should be thinking about for CWIN for one of these complexes that includes renewables, gas, and storage.
Speaker #8: Would you anticipate CWIN owning the entirety of all of those assets or could the gas component be owned by a utility? How should we be thinking about that?
Speaker #3: Yeah. The way these projects are being developed, you ultimately have a collection of individual power plants that are all located in the same place, each of which has its own respective revenue contract.
Craig Cornelius: Yeah. The way these projects are being developed, you ultimately have a collection of individual power plants that are all located in the same place, each of which have their own respective revenue contract, severable electrical infrastructure, and in every instance, some phasing of how one unit or another comes online, based on the staging of demand from the data center and the ability of an interconnecting utility to serve load, enabled by the co-located generation resources that we build. At least as far as Clearway Energy, Inc. is concerned, our intention is to create a succession of project investment opportunities that look like the other project investment opportunities we routinely create with contract tenors like those you see from us recently measured in multiple decades, and settlement and restructures that are really the same as well.
Speaker #3: Severable electrical infrastructure. And in every instance, some phasing of how one unit or another comes online based on the staging of demand from the data center and the ability of an interconnecting utility to serve load—enabled by the co-located generation resources that we build.
Speaker #3: So, at least as far as Clearway Energy, Inc. is concerned, our intention is to create a succession of project investment opportunities that look like the other project investment opportunities we routinely create.
Speaker #3: With contract tenors like those you see from us recently, measured in multiple decades, and settlement and restructures that are really the same as well.
Craig Cornelius: As we plan these resources today, we expect to deliver an investment return proposition for Clearway Energy, Inc. consistent with what it sees on other comparable long-term contracted assets. If you're trying to imagine what these could present an opportunity for Clearway Energy, Inc., you could think of they're presenting similar CAFD yield investment opportunities with similar sort of 20-year type tenor contracts. As we noted, that investment opportunity is all additional to what our core grid-connected opportunities are targeting today. In terms of ownership of gas resources, this is something that will be a case-by-case consideration based on the unique circumstances and interests of the interconnecting utility at that location.
Speaker #3: As we plan these resources today, we expect to deliver an investment return proposition for Clearway Energy, Inc. consistent with what it sees on other comparable long-term contracted assets.
Speaker #3: And so, if you're trying to imagine what these could present in opportunity for Clearway Energy, Inc., you could think of them as presenting similar CAFD yield investment opportunities with similar sort of 20-year type tenor contracts.
Speaker #3: And as we noted, that investment opportunity is all additional to what our core grid-connected opportunities are targeting today. In terms of ownership of gas resources, this is something that will be a case-by-case consideration based on the unique circumstances and interests of the interconnecting utility at that location.
Craig Cornelius: We think of the gas resources at each one of these locations as being an essential part of the puzzle of assuring that firm capacity can be delivered. What corporate entity is the best owner of that will vary from instance to instance. Where Clearway Energy, Inc. makes any investment, it would do so into some structure that's a long-term toll, like the one that we have in Carlsbad Energy Center. Those are great investments for Seawind. That's actually one of our highest reliability sources of cash flow within the fleet. We look forward to illustrating what these different opportunities could translate into for Clearway Energy, Inc. in the future, and are especially mindful of the importance of fitting them into its own capital allocation environment.
Speaker #3: And we think of the gas resources at each one of these locations as being an essential part of the puzzle of assuring that firm capacity can be delivered.
Speaker #3: And what corporate entity is the best owner of that will vary from instance to instance. But where Clearway Energy, Inc., makes any investment, it would do so into some structure that's a long-term toll like the one that we have in Carlsbad Energy Center.
Speaker #3: And those are great investments for CWIN. That's actually one of our highest reliability sources of cash flow within the fleet. So we look forward to illustrating what these different opportunities could translate into for Clearway Energy, Inc., in the future.
Speaker #3: And our especially mindful of the importance of fitting them into its own capital allocation environment. And you could think of these as additional ways for us to accelerate CWIN's investment tempo, but into the same type of assets that it owns already today.
Craig Cornelius: You could think of these as additional ways for us to accelerate, CWEN's investment tempo, but into the same type of assets that it owns already today.
Speaker #7: Okay. Got it. No, that's really, really helpful. And then just as a follow-up, you had raised 50 million in equity in Q4, 50 million in Q1.
Justin Clare: Okay, got it. No, that's really, really helpful. Just as a follow-up, you had raised $50 million in equity in Q4, $50 million in Q1, so I think a total of $100 million here. Just how should we think about, you know, with this additional capital, how should we think about your ability to deliver on the 2030 goals or potentially above those goals at this point in time?
Speaker #7: So I think a total of 100 million here just how should we think about with this additional capital, how should we think about your ability to deliver on the 2030 goals or potentially above those goals at this point in time?
Speaker #3: Yeah. First, I think we're quite pleased with the execution of our organization and its capital markets activity, both in the bond issuance we completed earlier this year and each one of the two equity issuances that we've already completed through our at-the-market and direct stock purchase programs.
Craig Cornelius: Yeah, you know, first, I think we're quite pleased with the execution of our organization and its capital markets activity, both in the bond issuance we completed earlier this year, and each one of the two equity issuances that we've already completed through our at-the-market and Direct Stock Purchase Programs. We've looked at those as a useful proof of concept to our investors, that we can return to being a regular issuer of securities, and we can successfully issue them at a pricing level that makes the investments we're making today at 10.5% cap yields very accretive on a CAFD per share basis for our investors when accounting for how we fund those investments.
Speaker #3: And we've looked at those as a useful proof of concept to our investors that we can return to being a regular issuer of securities, and we can successfully issue them at a pricing level that makes the investments we're making today at 10.5% CAFTE yields very accretive on a CAFTE per share basis for our investors, when accounting for how we fund those investments.
Craig Cornelius: It's our we are building confidence based on that demonstrated execution that allows us to think about the potential for accelerating the investment tempo at CWEN based on the opportunity set that we've previously described. Certainly, if CWEN's in a position to invest at a higher cadence than the $2.5 billion worth of capital deployment we'd previously noted, would take us to the top end of our $2.90 to $3.10 in CAFD per share goal for 2030. That increased investment cadence would bring with it modest amounts of additional funding requirement. We would only undertake those commitments and that funding plan if we thought it was gonna lead us to substantially better outcomes than we've already committed to our investors today.
Speaker #3: And it's our—we are building confidence based on that demonstrated execution that allows us to think about the potential for accelerating the investment tempo at CWIN, based on the opportunity set that we've previously described.
Speaker #3: And certainly, if CWIN's in a position to invest at a higher cadence than the $2.5 billion worth of capital deployment we'd previously noted would take us to the top end of our $2.90 to $3.10 in CAFTE per share goal for 2030.
Speaker #3: That increased investment cadence would bring with it modest amounts of additional funding requirement, but we would only undertake those commitments and that funding plan if we thought it was going to lead us to substantially better outcomes than we've already committed to our investors today.
Speaker #3: So, bottom line, we're quite proud of the quality of execution in our capital markets work thus far. We hope it builds confidence amongst our investors that we, like some of the premium utilities, can really enter into what is a potential super cycle for growth investment opportunities.
Craig Cornelius: Bottom line, we're quite proud of the quality of execution in our capital markets work thus far. We hope it builds confidence amongst our investors that we, like some of the premium utilities we compare ourselves to, can really enter into what is a potential super cycle for growth investment opportunities, and that we can do so assuring that an increased cadence of investment activity will be highly accretive to our existing shareholders.
Speaker #3: And that we can do so assuring that an increased cadence of investment activity will be highly accretive to our existing shareholders.
Speaker #7: Okay. Very helpful. Thank you.
Justin Clare: Okay. Very helpful. Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Angie Storzynski of Seaport. Please go ahead, Angie.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Angie Storozynski of Seaport. Please go ahead, Angie. Hi, Angie.
Speaker #7: Hi, Angie.
Angie Storozynski: Thank you. How are you? I have a question about the drop-downs from your sponsor, 'cause I'm just wondering, you know, given the strong performance of your stock and the reduction and implied reduction in the cost of funding, is it fair to assume that those future drop-downs still happen at this, say, 10.5% plus cap yield, or is it that we should think about it more as a spread over your cost of financing, i.e., the stock performance would be sort of potentially weighing on the future cap to yield from the drop-downs?
Speaker #8: Thank you. How are you? So I have a question about the dropdowns from your sponsor. Because I'm just wondering, given the strong performance of your stock and the reduction in implied reduction in the cost of funding, is it fair to assume that the future dropdowns still happen at this say 10.5% plus CAFTE yield?
Speaker #8: Or is it that we should think about it more as a spread over your cost of financing, i.e., the stock performance would be sort of potentially weighing on the future CAFTE yield from the dropdowns?
Speaker #3: Yeah, I think what we've said in our last few long-term planning calls is that we are planning our business around an average of 10.5% CAFTE yields on new capital allocation.
Craig Cornelius: Yeah, you know, I think what we've said in our last few long-term planning calls is that we are planning our business around an average of 10.5% CAFD yields on new capital allocation, and we might see some projects capitalized and completed below or above that level. As you can see from the disclosure we've most recently provided and also drop-down commitments that were reached last year, we've had some instances where we've been able to deliver at levels above that kind of 10.5% level. Every time we're able to do that, we're pleased about what that means for the shareholders of Clearway Energy, Inc. You know, I think we see that giving Clearway Energy, Inc.
Speaker #3: And we might see some projects capitalized and completed below or above that level. And as you can see from the disclosure we'd most recently provided, and also dropdown commitments that were reached last year, we've had some instances where we've been able to deliver at levels above that kind of 10.5% level.
Speaker #3: And every time we're able to do that, we're pleased about what that means for the shareholders of Clearway Energy, Inc. I think we see that giving Clearway Energy, Inc. the opportunity to participate in the rising return environment is core to assuring that the flywheel of success in our business continues.
Craig Cornelius: the opportunity to participate in the rising return environment is core to assuring that the flywheel of success in our business continues. As we plan our projects, as we price new revenue contracts at Clearway Group, as we capitalize them and prepare them for offerings for CWEN, we are looking to deliver a consistent growth algorithm. We've communicated that that growth algorithm anticipates deploying CWEN's capital between 10 and 11% in CAFD yields. That's what we're continuing to plan for.
Speaker #3: And as we plan our projects, as we price new revenue contracts at Clearway Group, as we capitalize them and prepare them for offerings for CWIN, we are looking to deliver a consistent growth algorithm.
Speaker #3: And we've communicated that that growth algorithm anticipates deploying CWIN's capital between 10% and 11% in CAFTE yields. And that's what we're continuing to plan for.
Speaker #8: Right. Because we're hearing all of these announcements coming from Clearway Group, right? And they're definitely bullish for the sponsor. I'm just debating if you guys will share some of the benefit, not just coming from the scale of projects or the megawatts being developed, but also the margins of it.
Angie Storozynski: Right. Because we're hearing all of these announcements coming from Clearway Group, right? They're definitely bullish for the sponsor. I'm just, you know, debating if you guys will share some of the benefit, not just coming from the scale of projects or the megawatts being developed, but also the-
Craig Cornelius: Mm-hmm.
Angie Storozynski: ... the, the margins of it. Again, I'm debating if the-- if there is some improvement in margins for you guys, or is that, you know, the, the benefit of the digital infrastructure pipeline more accrues predominantly to the parent, and then you guys are more of a financing arm, and so, you know, it all comes down to the spread versus your cost of financing. again-
Speaker #8: Again, I'm debating if there is some improvement in margins for you guys, or is that—the benefit of the digital infrastructure pipeline—does that more accrue predominantly to the parent, and then you guys are more of a financing arm?
Speaker #8: And so it all comes down to the spread versus your cost of financing. And again, I'm not trying to impute it.
Craig Cornelius: Mm-hmm.
Angie Storozynski: ... I'm not trying to impute it.
Speaker #3: No, no, no. I totally understand the question. Well, I mean, I think what you see in the existence proof of the recent offerings from Royal Slope and Swan, which were made in the course of the current month—certainly after we've seen a share price increase for CWIN—each of those was offered within that same 10 to 11 percent CAFTE yield range where assets were being offered last year.
Craig Cornelius: No, no, no. I totally understand the question. Well, I mean, I think what you see in the existence proof of the recent offerings from Royal Slope and Swan, which were made in the course of the current month, certainly after we've seen a share price increase for CWEN, each of those were offered within that same 10 to 11% capped yield range where assets were being offered last year. Because you carefully pay attention to our story over time, Angie, I know you've noticed that that capped yield is increased over where assets were being dropped down, say, 18 months ago and certainly 36 months ago. I think there's a clear existence proof that the Clearway Group sponsor entity is providing the opportunity for Clearway Energy, Inc.
Speaker #3: And because you carefully pay attention to our story over time, Angie, I know you've noticed that that CAFTE yield is increased over where assets were being dropped down, say, 18 months ago, and certainly 36 months ago.
Speaker #3: So I think there's a clear existence proof that the Clearway Group sponsor entity is providing the opportunity for Clearway Energy, Inc. to participate in the rising return environment and deliver an improving return proposition for its investors as a result.
Craig Cornelius: to participate in the rising return environment and deliver an improving return proposition for its investors as a result. As far as the so as Clearway Group's originating new projects and capitalizing them, it certainly is planning on continuing to sustain that equation for, for CWEN. As far as the digital infrastructure campuses are concerned, you know, I think for us, the easiest rule of thumb for the time being is to assume that each one of these assets exhibits a return in contract proposition, similar to what we do in traditional grid-type projects today. As we get to know what's possible in those complexes, you know, we, we will see whether it's possible to do even better than that.
Speaker #3: And as far as—so as Clearway Group’s originating new projects and capitalizing them at, certainly is planning on continuing to sustain that equation for CWIN.
Speaker #3: And as far as the digital infrastructure campuses are concerned, I think for us, the easiest rule of thumb for the time being is to assume that each one of these assets exhibits a return and contract proposition similar to what we do in traditional grid-tied projects today.
Speaker #3: As we get to know what's possible in those complexes, we will see whether it's possible to do even better than that. But in our minds, and I think probably in yours, we should recognize that whether power resources are co-located with a data center or they're delivering power to data centers through the grid, there is still some cost of ownership equation that we need to satisfy for the owner of that digital infrastructure.
Craig Cornelius: In our minds, and I think probably in yours, we should recognize that whether power resources are co-located with a data center or they're delivering power to data centers through the grid, there is still some cost of ownership equation that we need to satisfy for the owner of that digital infrastructure. Mindful of that cost equation, we would not want to overpromise about the potential for doing even better than what's already a great return for CWEN on the projects that we're deploying already into it. Bottom line, we think the investment proposition for Clearway Energy, Inc. has been improved over the course of the last 18 months.
Speaker #3: And mindful of that cost equation, we would not want to overpromise about the potential for doing even better than what's already a great return for CWIN on the projects that we're deploying already into it.
Speaker #3: So, bottom line, we think the investment proposition for Clearway Energy, Inc. has been improved over the course of the last 18 months. It's certainly been sustained even while its cost of capital has declined.
Craig Cornelius: It's certainly been sustained even while its cost of capital has declined, and we understand that part of what's allowed for that cost of capital to decline is the confidence our investors have that we're going to sustain a strong investment proposition for the company.
Speaker #3: And we understand that part of what's allowed for that cost of capital to decline is the confidence our investors have that we're going to sustain a strong investment proposition for the company.
Speaker #8: Great. Thank you.
Nelson Ng: Great. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question. Comes from the line. Of Heidi Haupp. Of BNP Paribas. Please go ahead, Heidi.
Operator: You. Our next question comes from the line of Heidi Houpt of BNP Paribas. Please go ahead, Heidi.
Heidi Houpt: Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. I just have 2 follow-ups. With respect to the $650 to $800 million in investment upside, kind of incremental to the $2.5 billion, I know you had mentioned potentially issuing equity as if it's accretive to, to fund that. Should we be expecting that the funding strategy or the percent kind of funding breakout that you had highlighted last quarter with the 5% to 15% equity, 20% retained cash flow, and the remaining corporate debt, is that kind of the strategy you would use to fund even the incremental investment, or would this incremental investment require a different kind of corporate capital funding strategy?
Speaker #9: Hi. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. I just have two follow-ups. With respect to the $650 to $800 million in investment upside, kind of incremental to the $2.5 billion, I know you had mentioned potentially issuing equity if it's accretive to fund that.
Speaker #9: But should we be expecting that the funding strategy or the percentage kind of funding breakout that you had highlighted last quarter—with the 5 to 15 percent equity, 20 percent retained cash flow, and the remaining corporate debt—is that kind of the strategy you would use to fund even the incremental investment?
Speaker #9: Or would this incremental investment require a different kind of corporate capital funding strategy?
Speaker #3: I think that same approximate strategy is how we imagine running the business into the future. When we think about the particular constraints and factors that we are trying to optimize for in building a long-term plan for Clearway Energy, Inc., the things we think about are our intention of running the business to the same 4 to 4 and a half leverage ratio that we have historically run it at, our goal to drive our payout ratio down to 70 percent or lower in the long run, so that we can create a strong base of recurring cash flow that can be reinvested in growth at a growing absolute level over time, sustaining a payout, a dividend per share growth rate that is compelling, and it's alignment with that of other premium utilities.
Craig Cornelius: I think that same approximate strategy is how we imagine running the business into the future. When we think about the particular constraints and factors that we are trying to optimize for in building a long-term plan for Clearway Energy, Inc., the things we think about are our intention of running the business to the same 4 to 4.5 leverage ratio that we have historically run it at. Our goal to drive our payout ratio down to 70% or lower in the long run, so that we can create a strong base of recurring cash flow that can be reinvested in growth at a growing absolute level over time, sustaining a payout, a dividend per share growth rate that is compelling in its alignment with that of other premium utilities.
Speaker #3: And once we have accounted for each one of those constraints, then optimizing the balance of corporate debt issuance and equity issuance based on what maximizes CAFTE per share for our owners.
Craig Cornelius: Once we have accounted for each one of those constraints, then optimizing the balance of corporate debt issuance and equity issuance based on what maximizes CAFD per share for our owners. I think you could think of that as kind of that approximate percentage of sources as being sustained in the funding plan we're building for ourselves, and that we would increase as additional investment opportunities present themselves.
Speaker #3: So I think you could think of that as kind of that approximate percentage of sources as being sustained. In the funding plan, we're building for ourselves and that we would increase as additional investment opportunities present themselves.
Craig Cornelius: Again, really, when we plan the business, we're thinking about those constraints and those goals of maintaining a prudent leverage ratio, driving to a payout ratio of 70% or lower, and assuring that we're going to be able to compound our dividend per share growth rate at some level that's similar to what you'd see from other premium valued, fast-growing utilities. Then the particular mix of equity and debt issuance in a- any given year would be something we optimize based on the long-term CAFD per share impact that we would expect to see.
Speaker #3: But again, really, when we plan the business, we're thinking about those constraints and those goals of maintaining a prudent leverage ratio, driving to a payout ratio of 70 percent or lower, and assuring that we're going to be able to compound our dividend per share growth rate at some level that's similar to what you'd see from other premium-valued, fast-growing utilities.
Speaker #3: And then the particular mix of equity and debt issuance in any given year would be something we optimize based on the long-term CAFTE per share impact that we would expect to see.
Speaker #9: Great, thank you. And then just to follow up, thanks for the helpful commentary on the revenue enhancement opportunities in Texas. Just want to make sure I'm understanding.
Heidi Houpt: Great, thank you. Just a follow-up. Thanks for the helpful commentary on the revenue enhancement opportunities in Texas. Just want to make sure I'm understanding. Are these PPAs that were set to expire this year or rather, PPAs that customers are proactively recontracting years before expiration? If that's the case, is there any further upside to this 617 MW number as power demand continues to increase and demand for long-term agreements increase as well? Thank you.
Speaker #9: So are these PPAs that were set to expire this year or rather PPAs that customers are kind of proactively recontracting years before expiration? And if that's the case, is there any further upside to this kind of 617 megawatt number as power demand continues to kind of increase and demand for kind of long-term agreements increase as well?
Speaker #9: Thank you.
Craig Cornelius: Yeah. Actually, what we're executing in the instance of these projects is, is, is a little bit more like what we've done with the Mount Storm repowering in PJM, where the level of interest from hyperscaler customers and other corporate customers in ERCOT, in, for, for, for the shape of generation that's available from wind projects in the market, allows us to terminate existing bank hedges that are on those projects, replace them with a new long-term unit-contingent power purchase agreement. What was previously a combination of hedged and merchant capacity at the projects now becomes fully contracted. Where we do have some existing commercial and industrial customers for those projects, as their existing power purchase agreements roll off, the new customer's contracted quantity increases over time.
Speaker #3: Yeah. Actually, what we're executing in the instance of these projects is a little bit more like what we've done with the Mount Storm repowering in PJM.
Speaker #3: Where the level of interest from hyperscaler customers and other corporate customers in ERCOT for the shape of generation that's available from wind projects in the market allows us to terminate existing bank hedges that are on those projects and replace them with new long-term unit-contingent power purchase agreements.
Speaker #3: And what was previously a combination of hedged and merchant capacity at the projects now becomes fully contracted. And where we do have some existing commercial and industrial customers for those projects, as their existing power purchase agreements roll off, the new customers' contracted quantity increases over time.
Speaker #3: So what we end up with is a fully contracted project with a very favorable risk profile on our settlement structure that allows us to now look at this as a contracted asset well into the next decade.
Craig Cornelius: What we end up with is a fully contracted project with a very favorable risk profile on our settlement structure that allows us to now look at this as a contracted asset well into the next decade.
Speaker #9: Great. Thank you so much.
Heidi Houpt: Great. Thank you so much.
Craig Cornelius: Mm-hmm.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Nelson, Inc. of RBC Capital Markets. Your question, please, Nelson.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Nelson Ng of RBC Capital Markets. Your question please, Nelson.
Speaker #10: Great, thanks, and good evening, everyone. So the first question is, can you just talk about whether there's excess interconnection capacity at your existing portfolio?
Nelson Ng: Great, thanks, and good evening, everyone. The first question is, can you just talk about whether there's excess interconnection capacity at your existing portfolio and whether we should expect, like, a broader trend in terms of co-locating battery storage at a number of sites? I know, Craig, you mentioned earlier on the call that you're potentially hybridizing the entire fleet, and I'm not sure whether this is what you were referring to.
Speaker #10: And whether we should expect a broader trend in terms of co-locating battery storage at a number of sites? Because I know, Craig, you mentioned earlier on the call that you're potentially hybridizing the entire fleet.
Speaker #10: And I'm not sure whether this is what you were referring to.
Speaker #3: Yeah, thanks. I think that reference was the entire fleet of solar projects that we had in Utah. And it's a great test case for what you're asking about, where for those projects, the ability to provide affirming capacity resource—making use of existing interconnection, and the faster path towards interconnecting batteries versus filing interconnection queues for new batteries that would be built elsewhere—created a really compelling value proposition for the utility in the state that needs to serve growing demand.
Craig Cornelius: Yeah, thanks. I think that reference was the entire fleet of solar projects that we had in Utah. It's a great test case for what you're asking about, where for those projects, the ability to provide a firming capacity resource, making use of existing interconnection and the faster path towards interconnecting batteries versus filing interconnection queues for new batteries that would be built elsewhere, created a really compelling value proposition for the utility in the state that needs to serve growing demand. There is most definitely the opportunity to do something like that in other projects in our fleet, and we continue to examine what the optimal timing, location, and instance of that would be.
Speaker #3: There is most definitely the opportunity to do something like that in other projects in our fleet. And we continue to examine what the optimal timing, location, and instance of that would be.
Craig Cornelius: It tends to be most valuable at solar projects, and the bulk of our solar fleet is either in California or is interconnected to deliver energy and capacity attributes into California. Something we like about that opportunity is that we've got the ability to take our time with it. Much of that solar fleet is contracted well into the next decade, and the ability to install hybridizing battery resources that qualify for tax credits based on the provisions of the One Big Beautiful Bill extends well into the next decade.
Speaker #3: It tends to be most valuable at solar projects. And the bulk of our solar fleet is either in California or is interconnected to deliver energy and capacity attributes into California.
Speaker #3: And something we like about that opportunity is that we've got the ability to take our time with it. Much of that solar fleet is contracted well into the next decade.
Speaker #3: And the ability to install hybridizing battery resources that qualify for tax credits, based on the provisions of the One Big Beautiful Bill, extends well into the next decade.
Speaker #3: So in the Honeycomb program, through which we've installed batteries or aim to install on the remainder of the fleet batteries, in its entirety, we've got a good proof point for what it looks like when a market creates an opportunity for that kind of hybridization.
Craig Cornelius: In the Honeycomb program, through which we've installed batteries or, or, or aim to install on the remainder of the fleet batteries, in its entirety, we've got a good proof point for what it looks like when a market creates an opportunity for that kind of hybridization, and we think we'll be in a position to be able to do things like that well into the next decade.
Speaker #3: And we think we'll be in a position to be able to do things like that well into the next decade.
Speaker #10: That's great color. And then just one other quick question. So just regarding the pending Deriva acquisition, do you have an updated timeframe of when you expect the transaction to close?
Nelson Ng: That's great color. Just one another quick question. Regarding the pending Deriva acquisition, do you have an updated timeframe of when you expect the transaction to close? I think your previous guidance was, like, the first half of this year, and obviously we're near the end of February.
Speaker #10: I think your previous guidance was the first half of this year, and obviously we're near the end of February.
Speaker #3: Yeah, we are on a very solid track towards concluding that acquisition imminently, and we expect to be able to close well in advance of the end of the first half of this year.
Craig Cornelius: Yeah. We are on a very solid track towards concluding that acquisition imminently. We expect to be able to to close well in advance of the end of the first half of this year. You could see in some of our disclosures that the first phase of the financing, the non-recourse financing that will be employed to fund the acquisition actually already was put in place by Clearway Energy, Inc. The closing of the transaction is imminent.
Speaker #3: And you could see in some of
Speaker #1: Of our disclosures . That the first phase of the financing that the non-recourse financing that will be employed to fund the acquisition , actually already was put in place by Clearway Energy, Inc. .
Speaker #1: So, the closing of the transaction is imminent.
Speaker #2: Great . Thanks . I'll leave it there
Nelson Ng: Great, thanks. I'll leave it there.
Speaker #3: Thank you . I would now like to turn the conference back to Craig Cornelius for closing remarks . Sir
Operator: Thank you. I would now like to turn the conference back to Craig Cornelius for closing remarks. Sir?
Speaker #1: Yeah . Thank you , everyone , for joining us today . And for your ongoing support of Clearway . We're proud of the work we're doing to deliver new generating capacity and markets across our country with an array of diverse energy resources that are critical to our country's needs .
Craig Cornelius: Yeah. Thank you, everyone, for joining us today and for your ongoing support of Clearway. We're proud of the work we're doing to deliver new generating capacity in markets across our country, with an array of diverse energy resources that are critical to our country's needs. In the quarters ahead, we're looking forward to continuing to execute with operational excellence and fulfilling our bright outlook for robust financial growth at best-in-class levels for you, our valued investors. Operator, you may close the call.
Speaker #1: In the quarters ahead, we're looking forward to continuing to execute with operational excellence and fulfilling our bright outlook for robust financial growth at best-in-class levels.
Speaker #1: For you, our valued investors. Operator, you may close the call.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.