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Q1 2026 FuboTV Inc Earnings Call
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Speaker #1: Standing by. My name is Tiffany, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Fubo first quarter 2026 earnings call.
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Speaker #1: I would now like to turn the call over to Ameet Padte, SVP of Financial Planning & Analysis, Corporate Development, and Investor Relations. Ameet, please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Thank you for joining us to discuss Fubo's first quarter fiscal 2026 results. With me today is David Gandler, co-founder and CEO of Fubo, and John Janedis, CFO of Fubo.
Ameet Padte: Thank you for joining us to discuss Fubo's Q1 fiscal 2026 results. With me today is David Gandler, Co-founder and CEO of Fubo, and John Janedis, CFO of Fubo. Full details of our results and additional management commentary are available in our earnings release and letter to shareholders, which can be found on the investor relations section of our website at ir.fubo.tv. Before we begin, let me quickly review the format of today's call. David will start with some brief remarks on the quarter and our business, and John will cover the financials. Then we will turn the call over to the analysts for Q&A. I would like to remind everyone that the following discussion may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws.
Ameet Padte: Thank you for joining us to discuss Fubo's Q1 fiscal 2026 results. With me today is David Gandler, Co-founder and CEO of Fubo, and John Janedis, CFO of Fubo. Full details of our results and additional management commentary are available in our earnings release and letter to shareholders, which can be found on the investor relations section of our website at ir.fubo.tv. Before we begin, let me quickly review the format of today's call. David will start with some brief remarks on the quarter and our business, and John will cover the financials. Then we will turn the call over to the analysts for Q&A. I would like to remind everyone that the following discussion may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws.
Speaker #2: Full details of our results and additional management commentary are available in our earnings release and letter to shareholders which can be found on the investor relations section of our website at ir.fubo.tv.
Speaker #2: Before we begin, let me quickly review the format of today's call. David will start with some brief remarks on the quarter and our business, and John will cover the financials.
Speaker #2: Then we will turn the call over to the analysts for Q&A. I would like to remind everyone that the following discussion may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Federal Securities Laws.
Speaker #2: These include statements regarding our financial condition, anticipated financial performance, expected synergies and benefits from our recent business combination, business strategy and plans—including our product, subscription packages, and commercial agreements—market, industry, and consumer trends, and expectations regarding growth and profitability.
Ameet Padte: These include statements regarding our financial condition, anticipated financial performance, expected synergies and benefits from our recent business combination, business strategy and plans including our products, subscription packages, and commercial agreements, market, industry, and consumer trends, and expectations regarding growth and profitability. These forward-looking statements are subject to certain risks, uncertainties, and assumptions, which could cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. For further information, refer to the earnings release we issued today, our letter to shareholders, and our SEC filings, all of which are available on our website at ir.fubo.tv. During the quarter, we closed our business combination with Hulu Plus Live TV. As a result, our reported results for the current period reflect the results of the Hulu Live business prepared on a carve-out basis for the period from 28 September 2025 through 28 October 2025, and excludes Fubo's results for this period.
These include statements regarding our financial condition, anticipated financial performance, expected synergies and benefits from our recent business combination, business strategy and plans including our products, subscription packages, and commercial agreements, market, industry, and consumer trends, and expectations regarding growth and profitability. These forward-looking statements are subject to certain risks, uncertainties, and assumptions, which could cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. For further information, refer to the earnings release we issued today, our letter to shareholders, and our SEC filings, all of which are available on our website at ir.fubo.tv. During the quarter, we closed our business combination with Hulu Plus Live TV. As a result, our reported results for the current period reflect the results of the Hulu Live business prepared on a carve-out basis for the period from 28 September 2025 through 28 October 2025, and excludes Fubo's results for this period.
Speaker #2: These forward-looking statements are subject to certain risks, uncertainties, and assumptions, which could cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. For further information, refer to the earnings release we issued today; our letter to shareholders; and our SEC filings; all of which are available on our website at ir.fubo.tv.
Speaker #2: During the quarter, we closed our business combination with Hulu Plus Live TV. As a result, our reported results for the current period reflect the results of the Hulu Live business prepared on a carve-out basis for the period from September 28, 2025, through October 28, 2025, and exclude Fubo's results for this period.
Speaker #2: For the period from October 29th, 2025, through December 31st, 2025, the results include the combined Fubo and Hulu Live businesses. The reported prior year period fiscal Q1, 2025, also reflects Hulu Live financials prepared on a carve-out basis and excludes the results of the historical Fubo business.
Ameet Padte: For the period from 29 October 2025 through 31 December 2025, the results include the combined Fubo and Hulu Live businesses. The reported prior-year period fiscal Q1 2025 also reflects Hulu Live financials prepared on a carve-out basis and excludes the results of the historical Fubo business. To facilitate comparability between periods, we will discuss certain results on a pro forma basis, giving effect to the transaction as if it had been completed at the beginning of the first period presented. We will also refer to certain non-GAAP measures during the call. Please refer to our Q1 fiscal 2026 letter to shareholders available on our website at ir.fubo.tv for a further description of the pro forma presentation and reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measure. With that, I will turn the call over to David.
For the period from 29 October 2025 through 31 December 2025, the results include the combined Fubo and Hulu Live businesses. The reported prior-year period fiscal Q1 2025 also reflects Hulu Live financials prepared on a carve-out basis and excludes the results of the historical Fubo business. To facilitate comparability between periods, we will discuss certain results on a pro forma basis, giving effect to the transaction as if it had been completed at the beginning of the first period presented. We will also refer to certain non-GAAP measures during the call. Please refer to our Q1 fiscal 2026 letter to shareholders available on our website at ir.fubo.tv for a further description of the pro forma presentation and reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measure. With that, I will turn the call over to David.
Speaker #2: To facilitate comparability between periods, we will discuss certain results on a pro forma basis, giving effect to the transaction as if it had been completed at the beginning of the first period presented.
Speaker #2: We will also refer to certain non-GAAP measures during the call. Please refer to our Q1 fiscal 2026 letter to shareholders, available on our website at ir.fubo.tv, for a further description of the pro forma presentation and reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measure.
Speaker #2: With that, I will turn the call over to David. Thank you, Ameet, and good morning, everyone. Q1 marked our first as the owner of Hulu Live and it validated the strategic rationale behind the combination.
David Gandler: Thank you, Ameet, and good morning, everyone. Q1 marked our first as the owner of Hulu Live, and it validated the strategic rationale behind the combination, offering greater scale, broader distribution, and improved economics. On a pro forma basis, over the past 12 months, the Fubo and Hulu Live businesses generated $6.2 billion of revenue and ended the period with 6.2 million subscribers in North America. This firmly establishes us as a scaled and relevant player in the pay TV market and one focused on growing. On a trailing 12-month pro forma basis, Adjusted EBITDA was $77.9 million. As a combined company, we believe there are meaningful opportunities ahead to unlock synergies and efficiencies that will support sustained growth and improved profitability.
David Gandler: Thank you, Ameet, and good morning, everyone. Q1 marked our first as the owner of Hulu Live, and it validated the strategic rationale behind the combination, offering greater scale, broader distribution, and improved economics. On a pro forma basis, over the past 12 months, the Fubo and Hulu Live businesses generated $6.2 billion of revenue and ended the period with 6.2 million subscribers in North America. This firmly establishes us as a scaled and relevant player in the pay TV market and one focused on growing. On a trailing 12-month pro forma basis, Adjusted EBITDA was $77.9 million. As a combined company, we believe there are meaningful opportunities ahead to unlock synergies and efficiencies that will support sustained growth and improved profitability.
Speaker #2: Offering greater scale, broader distribution, and improved economics. On a pro forma basis, over the past 12 months, the Fubo and Hulu Live businesses generated $6.2 billion of revenue and ended the period with 6.2 million subscribers in North America.
Speaker #2: This firmly establishes us as a scaled and relevant player in the Pay TV market and one focused on growing. On a trailing 12-month pro forma basis, adjusted EBITDA was $77.9 million.
Speaker #2: As a combined company, we believe there are meaningful opportunities ahead to unlock synergies and efficiencies that will support sustained growth and improved profitability. Since closing the Hulu Live combination in late October, our priority has been execution.
David Gandler: Since closing the Hulu Live combination in late October, our priority has been execution to expand reach, scale, and monetization across all of our services, and just a few months in, we are converting strategy into action. We are nearing completion of stage one of our integration plan, migrating Fubo's ad tech into the Disney Ad Server. Once live later this month, Fubo inventory will be sold alongside Disney+, ESPN+, and Hulu. We expect this integration to drive a meaningful uplift in both CPM and fill rates. Stage two of our plan is focused on the consumer. We've experienced strong market traction for our well-priced Fubo Sports service. It resonates with value-oriented consumers and complements our broader content offering. Fubo Sports includes major networks such as ESPN, ABC, CBS, and Fox, among others.
Since closing the Hulu Live combination in late October, our priority has been execution to expand reach, scale, and monetization across all of our services, and just a few months in, we are converting strategy into action. We are nearing completion of stage one of our integration plan, migrating Fubo's ad tech into the Disney Ad Server. Once live later this month, Fubo inventory will be sold alongside Disney+, ESPN+, and Hulu. We expect this integration to drive a meaningful uplift in both CPM and fill rates. Stage two of our plan is focused on the consumer. We've experienced strong market traction for our well-priced Fubo Sports service. It resonates with value-oriented consumers and complements our broader content offering. Fubo Sports includes major networks such as ESPN, ABC, CBS, and Fox, among others.
Speaker #2: To expand reach, scale, and monetization across all of our services, and just a few months in, we are converting strategy into action. We are nearing completion of stage one of our integration plan.
Speaker #2: Migrating Fubo's ad tech into the Disney ad server. One slide later this month, Fubo inventory will be sold alongside Disney+, ESPN+, and Hulu.
Speaker #2: We expect this integration to drive a meaningful uplift in both CPM and fill rates. Stage two of our plan is focused on the consumer.
Speaker #2: We've experienced strong market traction for our well-priced Fubo sports service. It resonates with value-oriented consumers and complements our broader content offering. Fubo sports includes major networks such as ESPN, ABC, CBS, and Fox, among others.
Speaker #2: Building on this momentum, we are pleased to announce that we are working with ESPN to include Fubo Sports in ESPN's commerce flow. Customers will be able to purchase Fubo Sports alongside offerings such as ESPN Unlimited and the ESPN, Disney Plus, and Hulu bundle, and then watch directly on the Fubo app.
David Gandler: Building on this momentum, we are pleased to announce that we are working with ESPN to include Fubo Sports in ESPN's commerce flow. Customers will be able to purchase Fubo Sports alongside offerings such as ESPN Unlimited, and the ESPN Disney Plus Hulu bundle and then watch directly on the Fubo app. This opportunity is particularly exciting given ESPN's scale. Per Comscore, ESPN's digital and social properties reached 4 out of every 5 US adults in November of 2025, representing hundreds of millions of unique fans. It allows us to market Fubo Sports directly to a sports-centric audience and drive subscriber growth more efficiently with meaningfully lower customer acquisition costs. We continue to focus on our Spanish-speaking audience, and in fiscal Q1 2026, we delivered record-high subscribers on Fubo's Latino product.
Building on this momentum, we are pleased to announce that we are working with ESPN to include Fubo Sports in ESPN's commerce flow. Customers will be able to purchase Fubo Sports alongside offerings such as ESPN Unlimited, and the ESPN Disney Plus Hulu bundle and then watch directly on the Fubo app. This opportunity is particularly exciting given ESPN's scale. Per Comscore, ESPN's digital and social properties reached 4 out of every 5 US adults in November of 2025, representing hundreds of millions of unique fans. It allows us to market Fubo Sports directly to a sports-centric audience and drive subscriber growth more efficiently with meaningfully lower customer acquisition costs. We continue to focus on our Spanish-speaking audience, and in fiscal Q1 2026, we delivered record-high subscribers on Fubo's Latino product.
Speaker #2: This opportunity is particularly exciting given ESPN's scale. Per ComScore, ESPN's digital and social properties reached four out of every five U.S. adults in November of 2025, representing hundreds of millions of unique fans.
Speaker #2: It allows us to market Fubo Sports directly to a sports-centric audience and drive subscriber growth more efficiently, with meaningfully lower customer acquisition costs. We continue to focus on our Spanish-speaking audience, and in fiscal Q1 2026, we delivered record-high subscribers on Fubo's Latino product.
Speaker #2: In January, Hulu Live launched the Spanish language bundle. Meaning that Spanish-speaking customers now have two plan options within the Fubo and Hulu Live ecosystem.
David Gandler: In January, Hulu Live launched the Spanish language bundle, meaning that Spanish-speaking customers now have two plan options within the Fubo and Hulu Live ecosystem. Stage three of our plan focuses on achieving content cost efficiencies commensurate with our increased scale and applying greater portfolio discipline as we evaluate which content best supports flexible pricing and affordability. As major distribution agreements for the Fubo services and the Hulu Live service come up for renewal, our objective is to move towards market-based pricing and penetration that reflects our combined increased scale. In the near term, I want to address NBCUniversal as we've received questions from investors and subscribers. Through November, our teams were engaged in renewal discussions with NBCU. Following the confirmation of the Versant spinoff, we paused discussions to allow the separation process to proceed. Beginning in early January, Comcast ceased engagement in renewal discussions despite multiple outreach attempts.
In January, Hulu Live launched the Spanish language bundle, meaning that Spanish-speaking customers now have two plan options within the Fubo and Hulu Live ecosystem. Stage three of our plan focuses on achieving content cost efficiencies commensurate with our increased scale and applying greater portfolio discipline as we evaluate which content best supports flexible pricing and affordability. As major distribution agreements for the Fubo services and the Hulu Live service come up for renewal, our objective is to move towards market-based pricing and penetration that reflects our combined increased scale. In the near term, I want to address NBCUniversal as we've received questions from investors and subscribers. Through November, our teams were engaged in renewal discussions with NBCU. Following the confirmation of the Versant spinoff, we paused discussions to allow the separation process to proceed. Beginning in early January, Comcast ceased engagement in renewal discussions despite multiple outreach attempts.
Speaker #2: Stage three of our plan focuses on achieving content cost efficiencies commensurate with our increased scale and applying greater portfolio discipline as we evaluate which content best supports flexible pricing and affordability.
Speaker #2: As major distribution agreements for the Fubo services and the Hulu Live service come up for renewal, our objective is to move towards market-based pricing and penetration that reflects our combined increased scale.
Speaker #2: In the near term, I want to address NBCUniversal as we've received questions from investors and subscribers. Through November, our teams were engaged in renewal discussions with NBCU.
Speaker #2: Following the confirmation of the Versant spin-off, we paused discussions to allow the separation process to proceed. Beginning in early January, Comcast ceased engagement in renewal discussions despite multiple outreach attempts.
Speaker #2: Comcast indicated that they are satisfied with their existing Hulu Live arrangement and do not intend to engage in renewal discussions on the Fubo side at this time, preferring to re-engage closer to the Hulu Live expiration.
David Gandler: Comcast indicated that they are satisfied with their existing Hulu Live arrangement and do not intend to engage in renewal discussions on the fubo side at this time, preferring to re-engage closer to the Hulu Live expiration. Given that most commercial terms had been largely aligned prior to the Versant spinoff, this position is very difficult to reconcile. Importantly, the subscriber impact to date has been modest since the removal of NBC content and better than our expectations. We believe this reflects the resilience of our sports-focused value proposition, the actions we took to preserve consumer value, including our decision to lower prices, and customers' ability to supplement fubo with Peacock. While we remain open to constructive engagement, we will review the role of the NBCU and Versant portfolios as we continue to evaluate content alignment for our 6+ million subscriber base.
Comcast indicated that they are satisfied with their existing Hulu Live arrangement and do not intend to engage in renewal discussions on the fubo side at this time, preferring to re-engage closer to the Hulu Live expiration. Given that most commercial terms had been largely aligned prior to the Versant spinoff, this position is very difficult to reconcile. Importantly, the subscriber impact to date has been modest since the removal of NBC content and better than our expectations. We believe this reflects the resilience of our sports-focused value proposition, the actions we took to preserve consumer value, including our decision to lower prices, and customers' ability to supplement fubo with Peacock. While we remain open to constructive engagement, we will review the role of the NBCU and Versant portfolios as we continue to evaluate content alignment for our 6+ million subscriber base.
Speaker #2: Given that most commercial terms had been largely aligned prior to the Versant spin-off, this position is very difficult to reconcile. Importantly, the subscriber impact to date has been modest since the removal of NBC content and better than our expectations.
Speaker #2: We believe this reflects the resilience of our sports-focused value proposition, the actions we took to preserve consumer value—including our decision to lower prices—and customers' ability to supplement Fubo with Peacock.
Speaker #2: While we remain open to constructive engagement, we will review the role of the NBCU and Versant portfolios as we continue to evaluate content alignment for our 6 million-plus subscriber base.
Speaker #2: Looking ahead, our 2026 North Star is simple: growth. We are focused on expanding our subscriber base through differentiated sports offerings, scaled distribution partnerships, and improved monetization, driving long-term value for consumers and shareholders.
David Gandler: Looking ahead, our 2026 North Star is simple: growth. We are focused on expanding our subscriber base through differentiated sports offerings, scale distribution partnerships, and improved monetization, driving long-term value for consumers and shareholders. I will now turn the call over to John Janedis, CFO, to discuss our financial results in greater detail. John. Thank you, David, and good morning, everyone. Fiscal Q1 2026 marked our first quarter reporting as a combined company following the completion of our business combination with Hulu Live in late October. As a reminder, because the transaction closed mid-quarter, to aid in analysis of the combined business, we will also discuss our results on a pro forma basis, giving effect to the combination as if it had been completed at the first period presented. Turning to the financial results for the quarter.
Looking ahead, our 2026 North Star is simple: growth. We are focused on expanding our subscriber base through differentiated sports offerings, scale distribution partnerships, and improved monetization, driving long-term value for consumers and shareholders. I will now turn the call over to John Janedis, CFO, to discuss our financial results in greater detail. John. Thank you, David, and good morning, everyone. Fiscal Q1 2026 marked our first quarter reporting as a combined company following the completion of our business combination with Hulu Live in late October. As a reminder, because the transaction closed mid-quarter, to aid in analysis of the combined business, we will also discuss our results on a pro forma basis, giving effect to the combination as if it had been completed at the first period presented. Turning to the financial results for the quarter.
Speaker #2: I will now turn the call over to John Janedis, CFO, to discuss our financial results in greater detail. John. Thank you, David, and good morning, everyone.
Speaker #2: Fiscal Q1 2026 marked our first quarter reporting as a combined company following the completion of our business combination with Hulu Live in late October.
Speaker #2: As a reminder, because the transaction closed mid-quarter, to aid in analysis of the combined business, we will also discuss our results on a pro forma basis, giving effect to the combination as if it had been completed at the first period presented.
Speaker #2: Turning to the financial results for the quarter. In North America, reported revenue was $1.54 billion, compared to $1.11 billion in the prior year period.
David Gandler: In North America, reported revenue was $1.54 billion compared to $1.11 billion in the prior-year period. On a pro forma basis, North America revenue was $1.68 billion compared to $1.58 billion in the prior year, representing growth of 6%. This reflects the scale of the combined platform and continued demand for live TV streaming across both the fubo and Hulu Live brands. On a combined basis, we ended the quarter with approximately 6.2 million North America subscribers compared to 6.3 million in the prior year. Turning to our profitability metrics, our reported net loss for the quarter was $19.1 million, a meaningful improvement from a $38.6 million loss in the prior-year period. On a pro forma basis, net loss improved to $46.4 million compared to $130.4 million last year. Importantly, we delivered positive pro forma Adjusted EBITDA of $41.4 million, nearly doubling from $22 million in the prior-year period.
In North America, reported revenue was $1.54 billion compared to $1.11 billion in the prior-year period. On a pro forma basis, North America revenue was $1.68 billion compared to $1.58 billion in the prior year, representing growth of 6%. This reflects the scale of the combined platform and continued demand for live TV streaming across both the fubo and Hulu Live brands. On a combined basis, we ended the quarter with approximately 6.2 million North America subscribers compared to 6.3 million in the prior year. Turning to our profitability metrics, our reported net loss for the quarter was $19.1 million, a meaningful improvement from a $38.6 million loss in the prior-year period. On a pro forma basis, net loss improved to $46.4 million compared to $130.4 million last year. Importantly, we delivered positive pro forma Adjusted EBITDA of $41.4 million, nearly doubling from $22 million in the prior-year period.
Speaker #2: On a pro forma basis, North America revenue was $1.68 billion, compared to $1.58 billion in the prior year, representing growth of 6%. This reflects the scale of the combined platform and continued demand for live TV streaming across both the Fubo and Hulu Live brands.
Speaker #2: On a combined basis, we ended the quarter with approximately 6.2 million North America subscribers, compared to 6.3 million in the prior year. Turning to our profitability metrics, our reported net loss for the quarter was $19.1 million, a meaningful improvement from a $38.6 million loss in the prior year period.
Speaker #2: On a pro forma basis, net loss improved to $46.4 million, compared to $130.4 million last year. Importantly, we delivered positive pro forma adjusted EBITDA of $41.4 million, nearly doubling from $22 million in the prior year period.
Speaker #2: From a cash and liquidity perspective, we ended the quarter with $458.6 million in cash, cash equivalents, and restricted cash. Note that operating cash flow in the quarter was impacted by working capital timing, particularly a build on accounts receivable following the close of the transaction, which we expect to normalize over subsequent quarters.
David Gandler: From a cash and liquidity perspective, we ended the quarter with $458.6 million in cash, cash equivalents, and restricted cash. Note that operating cash flow in the quarter was impacted by working capital timing, particularly a build in accounts receivable following the close of the transaction, which we expect to normalize over subsequent quarters. Earnings per share for the quarter reflected a loss of $0.02 based on 351.9 million Class A shares outstanding, with an additional 947.9 million Class B shares outstanding on a vote-only basis. We also announced today a planned reverse stock split of our common stock. The reverse split is intended to make the stock more accessible to a broader base of investors and will reduce the number of outstanding shares of common stock to a level better aligned with the company's size and scope.
From a cash and liquidity perspective, we ended the quarter with $458.6 million in cash, cash equivalents, and restricted cash. Note that operating cash flow in the quarter was impacted by working capital timing, particularly a build in accounts receivable following the close of the transaction, which we expect to normalize over subsequent quarters. Earnings per share for the quarter reflected a loss of $0.02 based on 351.9 million Class A shares outstanding, with an additional 947.9 million Class B shares outstanding on a vote-only basis. We also announced today a planned reverse stock split of our common stock. The reverse split is intended to make the stock more accessible to a broader base of investors and will reduce the number of outstanding shares of common stock to a level better aligned with the company's size and scope.
Speaker #2: Earnings per share for the quarter reflected a loss of $0.02, based on $351.9 million Class A shares outstanding, with an additional $947.9 million Class B shares outstanding on a vote-only basis.
Speaker #2: We also announced today a planned reverse stock split of our common stock. The reverse split is intended to make the stock more accessible to a broader base of investors and will reduce the number of outstanding shares of common stock to a level better aligned with the company's size and scope.
Speaker #2: We aim to execute the reverse split by the end of fiscal Q2 2026. In summary, fiscal Q1 represented a strong start to the year, and an important first quarter as a combined company.
David Gandler: We aim to execute the reverse split by the end of fiscal Q2 2026. In summary, fiscal Q1 represented a strong start to the year and an important first quarter as a combined company. Our results demonstrate healthy top-line growth and significant year-over-year expansion in profitability metrics, including positive pro forma adjusted EBITDA. As we move forward, we remain focused on disciplined execution, driving further efficiencies across the combined business, and continuing to improve our profitability metrics and cash generation over time. With that, I'll turn the call back to the operator for questions. Operator?
We aim to execute the reverse split by the end of fiscal Q2 2026. In summary, fiscal Q1 represented a strong start to the year and an important first quarter as a combined company. Our results demonstrate healthy top-line growth and significant year-over-year expansion in profitability metrics, including positive pro forma adjusted EBITDA. As we move forward, we remain focused on disciplined execution, driving further efficiencies across the combined business, and continuing to improve our profitability metrics and cash generation over time. With that, I'll turn the call back to the operator for questions. Operator?
Speaker #2: Our results demonstrate healthy top-line growth and significant year-over-year expansion in profitability metrics, including positive pro forma adjusted EBITDA. As we move forward, we remain focused on disciplined execution, driving further efficiencies across the combined business, and continuing to improve our profitability metrics and cash generation over time.
Speaker #2: With that, I'll turn the call back to the operator for questions.
Speaker #2: Operator. At this time, if you would
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Speaker #3: Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Thank you. Two questions, please. First, to kind of drill down a little further on the issue with NBCUniversal. With more streamers getting more access to sports rights and industry consolidation underway, what's your view on being able to retain or regain sports rights to keep that focus going forward?
[Analyst] (Seaport Research Partners): Thank you. Two questions, please. First, to kind of drill down a little further on the issue with NBCUniversal, with more streamers getting more access to sports rights and industry consolidation underway, what's your view on being able to retain or regain sports rights to keep that focus going forward? And do you think that Comcast is not re-engaging because they're driving the Peacock service in the near term because of the Olympics? Can you return to the table with TelevisaUnivision for soccer? When does the Peacock, or when does the Comcast and NBC deal with Hulu Live come up for renewal? Any further thoughts on that, please?
David Joyce: Thank you. Two questions, please. First, to kind of drill down a little further on the issue with NBCUniversal, with more streamers getting more access to sports rights and industry consolidation underway, what's your view on being able to retain or regain sports rights to keep that focus going forward? And do you think that Comcast is not re-engaging because they're driving the Peacock service in the near term because of the Olympics? Can you return to the table with TelevisaUnivision for soccer? When does the Peacock, or when does the Comcast and NBC deal with Hulu Live come up for renewal? Any further thoughts on that, please?
Speaker #4: And do you think that Comcast is not re-engaging because they're driving the Peacock service in the near term because of the Olympics? Can you return to the table with TelevisaUnivision for soccer?
Speaker #4: When does the Peacock, or when does the Comcast and NBC deal with Hulu Live come up for renewal? Any further thoughts on that?
Speaker #4: please? Yeah.
David Gandler: Yeah, why don't I take that, John? So David, thank you. This is David. I mean, there was a bunch of questions in there, so let me start with, if I remember, with the NBC question. First, I want to say that, obviously, going forward, we're not going to separate out the numbers for Hulu Live and fubo. But just to be very clear, we were up 3% year-over-year versus the prior year in subscribers, despite the fact that we were down with NBC for, I believe, over four weeks. So it speaks to the quality of the team, our ability to market on-platform, and to really understand the type of consumers we have. We also were able to drive some traffic to Hulu Live TV. As it relates to the programming, look, we have strong relationships with the leagues.
David Gandler: Yeah, why don't I take that, John? So David, thank you. This is David. I mean, there was a bunch of questions in there, so let me start with, if I remember, with the NBC question. First, I want to say that, obviously, going forward, we're not going to separate out the numbers for Hulu Live and fubo. But just to be very clear, we were up 3% year-over-year versus the prior year in subscribers, despite the fact that we were down with NBC for, I believe, over four weeks. So it speaks to the quality of the team, our ability to market on-platform, and to really understand the type of consumers we have. We also were able to drive some traffic to Hulu Live TV. As it relates to the programming, look, we have strong relationships with the leagues.
Speaker #2: Why don't I take that, John? So David, thank you. This is David. I mean, there was a bunch of questions in there, so let me start with, if I remember, with the NBC question.
Speaker #2: First, I want to say that obviously going forward, we're not going to separate out the numbers for Hulu Live and Fubo, but just to be very clear, we were up 3% year over year versus the prior year.
Speaker #2: In subscribers, despite the fact that we were down with NBC for, I believe, over four weeks, it speaks to the quality of the team, our ability to market on-platform, and to really understand the type of consumers we have.
Speaker #2: We also were able to drive some traffic to Hulu Live TV. As it relates to the programming, look, we have strong relationships with the leagues.
Speaker #2: We have an excellent relationship with Major League Baseball. We've been working with them closely as teams begin to migrate to the MLB platform. But for the most part, I think the major content deals and partnerships that we have with, obviously, Disney, Fox, CBS, those are still active.
David Gandler: We have an excellent relationship with Major League Baseball. We've been working with them closely as teams begin to migrate to the MLB platform. But for the most part, I think the major content deals and partnerships that we have, obviously, with Disney, Fox, and CBS, those are still active. And let's not forget, NBC is still on Hulu Live, and we're working with Disney and the Hulu team to ensure that we can drive traffic to NBC on Hulu Live. As it relates to Univision, again, just want to be very clear here, we've exceeded our own expectations. We've reached an all-time high on our Latino package. And in the same vein, Hulu Live now has its own skinny package, which does include Univision. And so going forward, we should be thinking about our subbase in totality.
We have an excellent relationship with Major League Baseball. We've been working with them closely as teams begin to migrate to the MLB platform. But for the most part, I think the major content deals and partnerships that we have, obviously, with Disney, Fox, and CBS, those are still active. And let's not forget, NBC is still on Hulu Live, and we're working with Disney and the Hulu team to ensure that we can drive traffic to NBC on Hulu Live. As it relates to Univision, again, just want to be very clear here, we've exceeded our own expectations. We've reached an all-time high on our Latino package. And in the same vein, Hulu Live now has its own skinny package, which does include Univision. And so going forward, we should be thinking about our subbase in totality.
Speaker #2: And let's not forget, NBC is still on Hulu Live, and we're working with Disney and the Hulu team to ensure that we can drive traffic to NBC on Hulu Live.
Speaker #2: As it relates to Univision, again, just want to be very clear here, we've exceeded our own expectations. We've reached an all-time high on our Latino package.
Speaker #2: And in the same vein, Hulu Live now has its own skinny package, which does include Univision. And so going forward, we should be thinking about our sub-base in totality.
Speaker #2: So we're north of 6 million subscribers. Which is the second largest DMVPD in the United States. And we think that we'll be very focused on continuing to provide flexibility optionality and affordable
David Gandler: So we're north of 6 million subscribers, which is the second-largest DMVPD in the United States. And we think that we'll be very focused on continuing to provide flexibility, optionality, and affordable packaging.
So we're north of 6 million subscribers, which is the second-largest DMVPD in the United States. And we think that we'll be very focused on continuing to provide flexibility, optionality, and affordable packaging.
Speaker #2: packaging. Your next question comes
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Speaker #5: Thanks very much. John, I know you guys aren't providing guidance for the year, but maybe with regard to sort of '26, and if we refer back to the old forecast that you provided as part of the proxy?
Clark Lampen: Thanks very much. John, I know you guys aren't providing guidance for the year, but maybe with regard to sort of 2026 and if we refer back to the old forecasts that you provided as part of the proxy, can you remind us whether those targets included any revenue and expense synergies? You guys have laid out a couple of things that seem potentially interesting with ad server integration and consumer packaging flows that could be accretive. Was that a part of the old guidance? And then maybe second question, for your fiscal Q2, the March quarter, should we expect that, assuming nothing changes with NBC, do you anticipate positive year-on-year growth with subscribers? Or is there any context that you could provide directionally for how we should think about the impact, maybe for fiscal Q2 or fiscal Q3? Thanks a lot.
Clark Lampen: Thanks very much. John, I know you guys aren't providing guidance for the year, but maybe with regard to sort of 2026 and if we refer back to the old forecasts that you provided as part of the proxy, can you remind us whether those targets included any revenue and expense synergies? You guys have laid out a couple of things that seem potentially interesting with ad server integration and consumer packaging flows that could be accretive. Was that a part of the old guidance? And then maybe second question, for your fiscal Q2, the March quarter, should we expect that, assuming nothing changes with NBC, do you anticipate positive year-on-year growth with subscribers? Or is there any context that you could provide directionally for how we should think about the impact, maybe for fiscal Q2 or fiscal Q3? Thanks a lot.
Speaker #5: Can you remind us whether those targets included any revenue and expense synergies you guys have laid out a couple of things that seem potentially interesting with ad server integration and consumer packaging flows that could be accretive?
Speaker #5: Was that a part of the old guidance? And then maybe second question, for your fiscal Q2, the March quarter, should we expect that, assuming nothing changes with NBC, do you anticipate positive year-on-year growth with subscribers?
Speaker #5: Or is there any context that you could provide directionally for how we should think about the impact, maybe for fiscal Q2 or fiscal Q3?
Speaker #5: Thanks a lot.
Speaker #2: Yeah, sure, Clark. So let me handle the first question, and then I'll go on to the one about the March quarter. So, on synergies—when we put the deck out last January, what was in there, what we stated was that we expected and assumed $120 million plus in synergies.
David Gandler: Yeah, sure, Clark. So let me handle the first question, and then I'll go on to the one about the March quarter. So on synergies, when we put the deck out last January, what was in there, what we stated, was that we expected and assumed $120 million-plus in synergies. In that deck, we also stated that the assumption was those took place on day one in terms of when the deal closed. That was more or less a simplifying assumption. In terms of the timeline around that, maybe just give it a little bit more color. In the short term, to David's point around the Disney Ad Server, that will come first in terms of the synergies. That's a combination of fill and CPM. And maybe a little more color on that.
David Gandler: Yeah, sure, Clark. So let me handle the first question, and then I'll go on to the one about the March quarter. So on synergies, when we put the deck out last January, what was in there, what we stated, was that we expected and assumed $120 million-plus in synergies. In that deck, we also stated that the assumption was those took place on day one in terms of when the deal closed. That was more or less a simplifying assumption. In terms of the timeline around that, maybe just give it a little bit more color. In the short term, to David's point around the Disney Ad Server, that will come first in terms of the synergies. That's a combination of fill and CPM. And maybe a little more color on that.
Speaker #2: In that deck, we also stated that the assumption was those took place on day one in terms of when the deal closed. That was more or less simplifying assumption.
Speaker #2: In terms of the timeline around that, maybe just give a little bit more color. In the short term, to David's point, around the Disney ad server, that will come first in terms of the synergies.
Speaker #2: That's a combination of film and CPM, and maybe a little more color on that. If you think about our ad numbers at Fubo standalone, historically, call it they're around, say, $100 million-ish.
David Gandler: If you think about our ad numbers at Fubo standalone historically, call it there around, say, $100 million-ish. And so I would say that the CPM and the fill opportunity is both in the double digits. The second piece was the content/programming synergies. Those are, I'd call, more medium- to long-term because those take place as contracts renew. There's a third piece that we didn't speak to a year ago, which was, I'd say, call it procurement. We're in the very early stages of that now, and I would say I'm optimistic that that could be a needle mover. And so those are the three. But again, none of those assume day one—sorry, they all assume day one, but they will clearly flow in over time. Yeah. Sorry, John. Just one more thing, Clark. This is David.
If you think about our ad numbers at Fubo standalone historically, call it there around, say, $100 million-ish. And so I would say that the CPM and the fill opportunity is both in the double digits. The second piece was the content/programming synergies. Those are, I'd call, more medium- to long-term because those take place as contracts renew. There's a third piece that we didn't speak to a year ago, which was, I'd say, call it procurement. We're in the very early stages of that now, and I would say I'm optimistic that that could be a needle mover. And so those are the three. But again, none of those assume day one—sorry, they all assume day one, but they will clearly flow in over time. Yeah. Sorry, John. Just one more thing, Clark. This is David.
Speaker #2: And so, I would say that the CPM and the film opportunity are both in the double digits. The second piece was the content and programming synergies.
Speaker #2: Those are, I'd call, more medium to long term because those take place as contracts renew. There's a third piece that we didn't speak to a year ago, which was, I'd say, and call it procurement, where in the very early stages of that now, and I would say I'm optimistic that that could be a needle mover.
Speaker #2: And so those are the three. But again, none of those assumed day one—sorry, they all assumed day one—but they will clearly flow in over time.
Speaker #2: Sorry, John, just one more thing, Clark. This is David. Just around NBC, I understand that it's a concern, but as I mentioned before, we believe that it's very important for us to be able to provide various packaging across a spectrum.
David Gandler: Just around NBC, I understand that it's a concern, but as I mentioned before, we believe that it's very important for us to be able to provide various packaging across a spectrum where we're able to offer consumers enough flexibility. And it's very important to note that the Fubo Sports service, which is a skinnier version of our legacy Fubo package, which includes NBC, is actually performing very well. We haven't been marketing it very hard. It continues to grow. Trial conversion rates are very high. And more importantly, when you look at, I think, that package is now in its third or fourth month. When you look at it from a retention perspective, retention is actually about 30% above what the legacy plan is.
Just around NBC, I understand that it's a concern, but as I mentioned before, we believe that it's very important for us to be able to provide various packaging across a spectrum where we're able to offer consumers enough flexibility. And it's very important to note that the Fubo Sports service, which is a skinnier version of our legacy Fubo package, which includes NBC, is actually performing very well. We haven't been marketing it very hard. It continues to grow. Trial conversion rates are very high. And more importantly, when you look at, I think, that package is now in its third or fourth month. When you look at it from a retention perspective, retention is actually about 30% above what the legacy plan is.
Speaker #2: We’re able to offer consumers enough flexibility, and it’s very important to note that the Fubo Sports service, which is a skinnier version of our legacy Fubo package that includes NBC, is actually performing very well.
Speaker #2: We haven't been marketing it very hard. It continues to grow. Trial conversion rates are very high. And more importantly, when you look at it, I think that package is now in its third or fourth month.
Speaker #2: When you look at it from a retention perspective, retention is actually about 30% above what the legacy plan is. And so, when I think about a future in the short term that might or may not include NBC, I think this package has a significant opportunity to grow.
David Gandler: And so when I think about a future in the short term that might or may not include NBC, I think this package has a significant opportunity to grow. It fits very nicely into the overall ecosystem with YouTube TV sitting in that sort of $80-plus range. And then you have the ESPN Fox One bundle, which, if I'm not mistaken, is in that sort of high 30s range. And with our promotional pricing of $45.99 or $44.99, this is a very attractive entry point to get access to local NFL games, college football, and a very strong portfolio of programming. So again, basically, what we're seeing now is just strong KPIs across that package.
And so when I think about a future in the short term that might or may not include NBC, I think this package has a significant opportunity to grow. It fits very nicely into the overall ecosystem with YouTube TV sitting in that sort of $80-plus range. And then you have the ESPN Fox One bundle, which, if I'm not mistaken, is in that sort of high 30s range. And with our promotional pricing of $45.99 or $44.99, this is a very attractive entry point to get access to local NFL games, college football, and a very strong portfolio of programming. So again, basically, what we're seeing now is just strong KPIs across that package.
Speaker #2: It fits very nicely into the overall ecosystem, with YouTube TV sitting in that sort of $80-plus range. And then you have the ESPN, Fox One bundle, which, if I'm not mistaken, is in that sort of high $30s range.
Speaker #2: And with our promotional pricing of $45.99 or $44.99, this is a very attractive entry point to get access to local NFL games, college football, and a very strong portfolio of programming.
Speaker #2: So again, basically what we're seeing now is just strong KPIs across that package. And as I mentioned before, with ESPN, if we can I mean, if we can figure out very quickly, which as you've heard that we're doing, we should be able to drive a tremendous amount of traffic at some point when we go live with them.
David Gandler: And as I mentioned before with ESPN, if we can, I mean, if we can figure out very quickly, which, as you've heard that we're doing, we should be able to drive a tremendous amount of traffic at some point when we go live with them. There are two different opportunities that we've been focused on. The first really is around marketing. Think of what YouTube is able to do for YouTube TV from a top-of-the-funnel perspective. ESPN engages with 4/5 adults in the United States. So if we can just leverage that, that should have a significant impact on our blended SAC numbers. And frankly, we could be a lot more measured and disciplined around how we market. So that's just one angle.
And as I mentioned before with ESPN, if we can, I mean, if we can figure out very quickly, which, as you've heard that we're doing, we should be able to drive a tremendous amount of traffic at some point when we go live with them. There are two different opportunities that we've been focused on. The first really is around marketing. Think of what YouTube is able to do for YouTube TV from a top-of-the-funnel perspective. ESPN engages with 4/5 adults in the United States. So if we can just leverage that, that should have a significant impact on our blended SAC numbers. And frankly, we could be a lot more measured and disciplined around how we market. So that's just one angle.
Speaker #2: There are two different opportunities that we've been focused on. The first, really, is around marketing. Think of what YouTube is able to do for YouTube TV from a top-of-the-funnel perspective.
Speaker #2: ESPN engages with four out of five adults in the United States. So if we can just leverage that, that should have a significant impact on our blended SAC numbers.
Speaker #2: And frankly, we could be a lot more measured and disciplined around how we market. So that's just one angle. And the second one, in the commerce flow—again, this is another area where not only would it open up the funnel, but at the same time, I think it would have pretty significant retention metrics around it, just given the fact that this would be part of an ESPN umbrella or ID.
David Gandler: The second one in the commerce flow, again, this is another area where not only it would open up the funnel, but at the same time, I think it would have pretty significant retention metrics around it, just given the fact that this would be part of an ESPN umbrella or ID. So all of these things, I think, are positive, and I think this gives us a chance to continue to grow. We've demonstrated our ability to grow losing partners in the past, and our goal is to continue to grow this product and reach new highs. And Clark, maybe one last thing or an exclamation point on David's comment. As it relates to growth going forward, whether it's Q1, Q2, or beyond, let me just add a couple more things.
The second one in the commerce flow, again, this is another area where not only it would open up the funnel, but at the same time, I think it would have pretty significant retention metrics around it, just given the fact that this would be part of an ESPN umbrella or ID. So all of these things, I think, are positive, and I think this gives us a chance to continue to grow. We've demonstrated our ability to grow losing partners in the past, and our goal is to continue to grow this product and reach new highs. And Clark, maybe one last thing or an exclamation point on David's comment. As it relates to growth going forward, whether it's Q1, Q2, or beyond, let me just add a couple more things.
Speaker #2: So all of these things, I think, are positive. And I think this gives us a chance to continue to grow. We've demonstrated our ability to grow losing partners in the past.
Speaker #2: And our goal is to continue to grow this product.
Speaker #2: And our goal is to continue to grow this product and reach new highs. And
Speaker #3: Clark, maybe one last thing, or an exclamation point on David's comment. As it relates to growth going forward, whether it's the March quarter, June quarter, or beyond, let me just add a couple more things.
Speaker #3: One is, again, we've been pleased to date with the results. But clearly, we'll know more following the Super Bowl, and then the Olympics. And just as a reminder, traditionally, we don't spend much against the Olympics because those subs don't retain well.
David Gandler: One is, again, we've been pleased to date with the results, but clearly we'll know more following the Super Bowl and then the Olympics. And just as a reminder, traditionally, we don't spend much against the Olympics because those subs don't retain well. But our goal is to grow and to grow profitably.
David Gandler: One is, again, we've been pleased to date with the results, but clearly we'll know more following the Super Bowl and then the Olympics. And just as a reminder, traditionally, we don't spend much against the Olympics because those subs don't retain well. But our goal is to grow and to grow profitably.
Speaker #3: But our goal is to grow. And to grow,
Speaker #3: profitably. Your next question comes
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Speaker #5: Hey, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions. First one for me—David, you talked about your North Star being growth. And with the merger closed and now you have more scale and a bigger balance sheet, how do you think about your priorities in terms of investing for subscriber growth versus at the standalone company?
John Janedis: Hey, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions. First one for me, David. You talked about your North Star being growth. And with the merger closed and now you have more scale and a bigger balance sheet, how do you think about your priorities in terms of investing for subscriber growth versus at the standalone company? I think you were a little more focused on just generating free cash flow now. How does the merger increase your ability to invest? And then second, just any quantification for the benefits you might have seen from the Disney/YouTube TV blackout in the quarter. Thanks.
John Janedis: Hey, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions. First one for me, David. You talked about your North Star being growth. And with the merger closed and now you have more scale and a bigger balance sheet, how do you think about your priorities in terms of investing for subscriber growth versus at the standalone company? I think you were a little more focused on just generating free cash flow now. How does the merger increase your ability to invest? And then second, just any quantification for the benefits you might have seen from the Disney/YouTube TV blackout in the quarter. Thanks.
Speaker #5: I think you were a little more focused on just generating free cash flow now. How can you how does the merger increase your ability to invest?
Speaker #5: And then second, just any quantification for the benefits you might have seen from the Disney YouTube TV blackout in the quarter?
Speaker #5: Thanks. Yeah,
David Gandler: Yeah, sure. So first, on the profitability front, I think we have now seen 3 consecutive quarters of profitability. I think this was a major concern dating back 3 or 4 years, so I think we've resolved that. The balance sheet, as John will likely talk about shortly, is very strong, and we are very well positioned to be able to take advantage of various tailwinds. You did mention the fact that we're in a much stronger position. I think the beautiful thing about where we sit right now and the potential of the flywheel within the Disney ecosystem is that they reach hundreds of millions of people every year. And so if we can figure out, which we're in the process of doing, what are the most efficient and effective marketing channels, it really shouldn't impact our cost structure very much.
David Gandler: Yeah, sure. So first, on the profitability front, I think we have now seen 3 consecutive quarters of profitability. I think this was a major concern dating back 3 or 4 years, so I think we've resolved that. The balance sheet, as John will likely talk about shortly, is very strong, and we are very well positioned to be able to take advantage of various tailwinds. You did mention the fact that we're in a much stronger position. I think the beautiful thing about where we sit right now and the potential of the flywheel within the Disney ecosystem is that they reach hundreds of millions of people every year. And so if we can figure out, which we're in the process of doing, what are the most efficient and effective marketing channels, it really shouldn't impact our cost structure very much.
Speaker #2: Sure. So first, on the profitability front, I think we have now seen three consecutive quarters of profitability. I think this was a major concern dating back three or four years.
Speaker #2: So I think we've resolved that. The balance sheet, as John likely talked about shortly, is very strong. And we are very well positioned to be able to take advantage of various tailwinds.
Speaker #2: You did mention the fact that we're in a much stronger position. I think the beautiful thing about where we sit right now, and the potential of the flywheel within the Disney ecosystem, is that they reach hundreds of millions of people every year.
Speaker #2: And so, if we can figure out—which we're in the process of doing—what are the most efficient and effective marketing channels, it really shouldn't impact our cost structure very much.
Speaker #2: And so I think that flexibility does give us the chance to invest more into growth. But I will say, if you look at our—again, on a standalone basis—we've spent less on marketing in the fourth quarter despite losing NBC and still been able to sort of maintain solid numbers on the Fubo side.
David Gandler: And so I think that flexibility does give us the chance to invest more into growth. But I will say, if you look at our again, on a standalone basis, we've spent less on marketing in Q4 despite losing NBC and still been able to sort of maintain solid numbers on the Fubo side. So from that perspective, we'll be working closely with the various teams within Disney. I want to say that the relationships have been great. Let's not forget, this deal closed on 29 October, right before the holiday season. And we're just getting to know the various folks who run different teams, and everyone's been very supportive. So we look forward to building those relationships and driving value for the overall subscriber base. And then last question, I think, was around YouTube TV. What was the question?
And so I think that flexibility does give us the chance to invest more into growth. But I will say, if you look at our again, on a standalone basis, we've spent less on marketing in Q4 despite losing NBC and still been able to sort of maintain solid numbers on the Fubo side. So from that perspective, we'll be working closely with the various teams within Disney. I want to say that the relationships have been great. Let's not forget, this deal closed on 29 October, right before the holiday season. And we're just getting to know the various folks who run different teams, and everyone's been very supportive. So we look forward to building those relationships and driving value for the overall subscriber base. And then last question, I think, was around YouTube TV. What was the question?
Speaker #2: So from that perspective, we'll be working closely with the various teams within Disney. I want to say that the relationships have been great. Let's not forget this deal closed on October 29th, right before the holiday season.
Speaker #2: And we're just getting to know the various folks who run different teams, and everyone's been very supportive. So we look forward to building those relationships and driving value for the overall subscriber base.
Speaker #2: And then last question, I think, was around YouTube TV. What was the
Speaker #2: And then, last question, I think, was around YouTube TV. What was the question? Yeah, so I'll take that one.
John Janedis: Yeah, so I'll take that one. I'll just say the impact from YouTube TV going dark with Disney was immaterial to the overall platform. And then, Brent, maybe just circling back again, just going back to the balance sheet and priorities, I think it's important, again, to look at the balance sheet evolution. And so David spoke to the priorities. But just as a reminder, if we look at where we were two years ago, call it the end of 2023, we had about $400 million of debt outstanding with a maturity of 26 February. Now we have, call it, $320 million outstanding with virtually all of it maturing in 2029 and 2031. And then our Adjusted EBITDA for 2024 was a loss of $86 million. And now, on a performance basis, we just reported that $78 million for calendar 2025. So some pretty major improvements.
John Janedis: Yeah, so I'll take that one. I'll just say the impact from YouTube TV going dark with Disney was immaterial to the overall platform. And then, Brent, maybe just circling back again, just going back to the balance sheet and priorities, I think it's important, again, to look at the balance sheet evolution. And so David spoke to the priorities. But just as a reminder, if we look at where we were two years ago, call it the end of 2023, we had about $400 million of debt outstanding with a maturity of 26 February. Now we have, call it, $320 million outstanding with virtually all of it maturing in 2029 and 2031. And then our Adjusted EBITDA for 2024 was a loss of $86 million. And now, on a performance basis, we just reported that $78 million for calendar 2025. So some pretty major improvements.
Speaker #3: I'll just say the impact from YouTube TV going dark with Disney was immaterial to the overall platform. And then Brent, maybe just circling back again, just going back to the balance sheet and priorities, I think it's important again to look at the balance sheet evolution.
Speaker #3: And so David spoke to the priorities, but just as a reminder, if we look at where we were two years ago, call it the end of '23, we had about $400 million of debt outstanding with a maturity of February '26.
Speaker #3: Now, we have, call it, $320 million outstanding, with virtually all of it maturing in ’29 and ’31. And then our adjusted EBITDA for ’24 was a loss of $86 million.
Speaker #3: And now, on a performance basis, we just reported that $78 million for calendar '25, so some pretty major improvements. And so, to the investment priorities, I would just say that the free cash flow generation should be an output of those.
John Janedis: To the investment priorities, I would just say that the free cash flow generation should be an output of those investments.
To the investment priorities, I would just say that the free cash flow generation should be an output of those investments.
Speaker #3: investments. Your next question comes from
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Speaker #6: Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Just on the advertising front— is there any sort of ramp period after you merged the tech stack with Disney for the ad sales relationship until you get that?
Patrick Sholl: Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Just on the advertising front, is there any sort of ramp period after you merged the tech stack with Disney for the ad sales relationship until you get that, I think you said, double-digit improvement in fill rates and CPMs? And then just on the variety of service offerings that you guys have in market now, could you maybe talk about the different seasonality trends and how to think about those as we model out growth over the course of the year? Thank you.
Patrick Sholl: Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Just on the advertising front, is there any sort of ramp period after you merged the tech stack with Disney for the ad sales relationship until you get that, I think you said, double-digit improvement in fill rates and CPMs? And then just on the variety of service offerings that you guys have in market now, could you maybe talk about the different seasonality trends and how to think about those as we model out growth over the course of the year? Thank you.
Speaker #6: I think you said double-digit improvement in fill rates and CPMs. And then just on the variety of service offerings that you guys have in market now, could you maybe talk about the different seasonality trends and how to think about those as we model out growth over the course of the year?
Speaker #6: Thank
Speaker #6: Thank
Speaker #6: You, Pat, why don't I start on—yeah.
David Gandler: Yeah. Pat, why don't I start on the ad ramp? Look, this is a very straightforward business. The beautiful thing about the advertising integration is that, essentially, Disney is selling ads. They've been selling ads for a very long time. They've been selling against live networks that they own themselves. They've been selling against Hulu Live. This is basically the same service with just more inventory. Our ad inventory will roll right into that ad server and will sit alongside these other channels and programs. And so our sense is that we should see an impact as soon as it's integrated towards the end of the quarter or maybe slightly thereafter.
David Gandler: Yeah. Pat, why don't I start on the ad ramp? Look, this is a very straightforward business. The beautiful thing about the advertising integration is that, essentially, Disney is selling ads. They've been selling ads for a very long time. They've been selling against live networks that they own themselves. They've been selling against Hulu Live. This is basically the same service with just more inventory. Our ad inventory will roll right into that ad server and will sit alongside these other channels and programs. And so our sense is that we should see an impact as soon as it's integrated towards the end of the quarter or maybe slightly thereafter.
Speaker #3: The ad ramp? Look, this is a very straightforward business. The beautiful thing about the advertising integration is that essentially Disney is selling ads. They've been selling ads for a very long time.
Speaker #3: They've been selling against live networks. That they own themselves. They've been selling against Hulu Live. This is basically the same service with just more inventory.
Speaker #3: Our ad inventory will roll right in to that ad server, and we'll sit alongside these other channels and programs. So our sense is that we should see an impact as soon as it's integrated towards the end of the quarter, or maybe slightly thereafter.
Speaker #3: And Patrick, maybe I'll just quickly hit on the seasonality. Just as a reminder to David's earlier point, we're not really going to break out the various services, but I can give you maybe a couple of high-level comments.
John Janedis: And Patrick, maybe I'll just quickly hit on the seasonality. Just as a reminder to David's earlier point, we're not really going to break out the various services, but I can give you maybe a couple of high-level comments. One is that I think you know that the Hulu Live service tends to be and has historically been far less seasonal than the fubo service. Within the fubo service, as you know, it's been highly seasonal around fall sporting season. And so the one thing we don't know yet is how seasonal the Skinny Sports service will be. But then again, as it relates to that as a percentage of total subs, I don't think there'll be any visible incremental seasonality as it relates to those smaller services for the foreseeable future.
John Janedis: And Patrick, maybe I'll just quickly hit on the seasonality. Just as a reminder to David's earlier point, we're not really going to break out the various services, but I can give you maybe a couple of high-level comments. One is that I think you know that the Hulu Live service tends to be and has historically been far less seasonal than the fubo service. Within the fubo service, as you know, it's been highly seasonal around fall sporting season. And so the one thing we don't know yet is how seasonal the Skinny Sports service will be. But then again, as it relates to that as a percentage of total subs, I don't think there'll be any visible incremental seasonality as it relates to those smaller services for the foreseeable future.
Speaker #3: One is that I think you know that the Hulu Live service tends to be and has historically been far less seasonal than the Fubo service.
Speaker #3: Within the Fubo service, as you know, it's been highly seasonal around the fall sporting season. And so the one thing we don't know yet is how seasonal the skinny sports service will be.
Speaker #3: But then again, as it relates to that as a percentage of total subs, I don't think there'll be any visible incremental seasonality as it relates to those smaller services for the foreseeable.
Speaker #3: future. Your next question comes from the
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Doug Arthur with Huber Research. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Doug Arthur with Huber Research. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: Line of Doug Arthur with Huber Research. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: ahead. Yeah,
Doug Arthur: Yeah, thanks. Just a couple of geeky financial questions. John, the difference between sort of reported revenues and Pro Forma revenues is around $134 million, give or take. Is that the impact of closing Hulu Live late in October? That's question one.
Doug Arthur: Yeah, thanks. Just a couple of geeky financial questions. John, the difference between sort of reported revenues and Pro Forma revenues is around $134 million, give or take. Is that the impact of closing Hulu Live late in October? That's question one.
Speaker #7: Thanks. Just a couple of geeky financial questions. John, the difference between sort of reported revenues and pro forma revenues is around $134 million, give or take.
Speaker #7: Is that the impact of closing Hulu Live late in October? That's question one.
Speaker #3: Yeah, sure. That's correct. And so it's a little bit quirky there in the sense that because Hulu Live was the accounting acquirer, we actually reported the three months of Hulu Live and then the, call it, the two months and a couple of days of Fubo.
John Janedis: Yeah, sure. Yeah, that's correct. So it's a little bit quirky there in the sense that because Hulu Live was the accounting acquirer, we reported the 3 months of Hulu Live and then they call it the 2 months and a couple of days of Fubo. So the delta there is just, yeah, that Fubo revenue more or less for the 28 days of October.
John Janedis: Yeah, sure. Yeah, that's correct. So it's a little bit quirky there in the sense that because Hulu Live was the accounting acquirer, we reported the 3 months of Hulu Live and then they call it the 2 months and a couple of days of Fubo. So the delta there is just, yeah, that Fubo revenue more or less for the 28 days of October.
Speaker #3: And so the delta there is just, yeah, that Fubo revenue more or less for the 28 days of October.
Speaker #7: Okay, so when I look at the AK on page six, where you kind of break down—not the pro forma, but the actual reported revenue breakdown between subscription, related party, advertising, etc.—the Fubo Live numbers are sort of a stub period there?
Doug Arthur: Okay. So when I look at the 8-K on page six where you kind of break down not the pro forma, but the actual reported revenue breakdown between subscription, related party, advertising, etc., the Fubo Live numbers are sort of a stub period there. I'm trying to just back out in terms of how Fubo did ex-Hulu Live.
Doug Arthur: Okay. So when I look at the 8-K on page six where you kind of break down not the pro forma, but the actual reported revenue breakdown between subscription, related party, advertising, etc., the Fubo Live numbers are sort of a stub period there. I'm trying to just back out in terms of how Fubo did ex-Hulu Live.
Speaker #7: I'm trying to just back out in terms of how Fubo did X Hulu
Speaker #6: Yeah. Live.
John Janedis: Yeah. Doug, let me say a couple of things. I don't have the 8-K in front of me, so we can talk about that offline. What I can tell you, though, broadly speaking, is that if we want to isolate the Fubo business, what I can tell you to the points we made is, number one, that we had a better subscriber outcome than we expected, and that flowed through the P&L. So I'd say we were pretty pleased with the outcome on the Fubo business.
John Janedis: Yeah. Doug, let me say a couple of things. I don't have the 8-K in front of me, so we can talk about that offline. What I can tell you, though, broadly speaking, is that if we want to isolate the Fubo business, what I can tell you to the points we made is, number one, that we had a better subscriber outcome than we expected, and that flowed through the P&L. So I'd say we were pretty pleased with the outcome on the Fubo business.
Speaker #3: Doug, let me take up on
Speaker #3: that. I don't have the AK in front of me, so we can talk about that offline. What I can tell you, though, broadly speaking, is that if we want to isolate the Fubo business, what I can tell you to the points we made is, number one, that we had a better subscriber outcome than we expected.
Speaker #3: And that flowed through the P&L. So I'd say we were pretty pleased with the outcome on the Fubo business.
Speaker #7: Okay, we'll disaggregate that later. Thank
Doug Arthur: Okay. We'll disaggregate that later. Thank you.
Doug Arthur: Okay. We'll disaggregate that later. Thank you.
Speaker #7: you. Yeah,
John Janedis: Yeah. Okay.
John Janedis: Yeah. Okay.
Speaker #4: Your next question comes from the line of Laura Martin with Needham & Company. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Laura Martin with Needham & Company. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Laura Martin with Needham & Company. Please go ahead.
Speaker #8: Hey, my first one is breaking news. After this call started, Disney did announce that it is confirming the appointment of Josh DeMaro, the next CEO to succeed Bob Iger.
Laura Martin: Hey. My first one is breaking news. After this call started, Disney did announce that it is confirming the appointment of Josh D'Amaro, the next CEO to succeed Bob Iger. So this is the second time the board of The Walt Disney Company is telling us that Disney is a parks company and not an entertainment company. So my first question to you, David, is how does that affect your world if Disney going forward is going to be really focusing on the real world, which is its parks assets and not its, let's call it, traditional TV and streaming assets?
Laura Martin: Hey. My first one is breaking news. After this call started, Disney did announce that it is confirming the appointment of Josh D'Amaro, the next CEO to succeed Bob Iger. So this is the second time the board of The Walt Disney Company is telling us that Disney is a parks company and not an entertainment company. So my first question to you, David, is how does that affect your world if Disney going forward is going to be really focusing on the real world, which is its parks assets and not its, let's call it, traditional TV and streaming assets?
Speaker #8: So this is the second time the board of the Walt Disney Company is telling us that Disney is a parks company and not an entertainment company.
Speaker #8: So my first question to you, David, is how does that affect your world if Disney going forward is going to be really focusing on the real world, which is its parks assets and not its let's call it traditional TV and streaming assets?
Speaker #8: So my first question to you, David, is how does that affect your world if Disney, going forward, is going to be really focusing on the real world—which is its parks assets—and not its, let's call it, traditional TV and streaming?
Speaker #3: Yeah, well, first of all, congratulations to Josh. We didn't know about that. So thank you for letting us know. As it relates to, I think, the business, Disney's a very large company.
David Gandler: Yeah. Well, first of all, congratulations to Josh. We didn't know about that, so thank you for letting us know. As it relates to, I think, the business, Disney is a very large company. It takes a lot of time for them to decide on what their priorities are going to be. And I think from what I heard on the last earnings call, Bob was very focused on highlighting the fact that they are still working on their technology stack, unifying their platform into one app. So I don't know what the impact will really be on us. We're having conversations with the various teams, as I mentioned, strong conversations with ESPN. We have announced some of the things that we plan to do with ESPN. We've spoken to Dana and others, the Hulu team.
David Gandler: Yeah. Well, first of all, congratulations to Josh. We didn't know about that, so thank you for letting us know. As it relates to, I think, the business, Disney is a very large company. It takes a lot of time for them to decide on what their priorities are going to be. And I think from what I heard on the last earnings call, Bob was very focused on highlighting the fact that they are still working on their technology stack, unifying their platform into one app. So I don't know what the impact will really be on us. We're having conversations with the various teams, as I mentioned, strong conversations with ESPN. We have announced some of the things that we plan to do with ESPN. We've spoken to Dana and others, the Hulu team.
Speaker #3: It takes a lot of time for them to decide on what their priorities are going to be. And I think from what I heard, on the last earnings call, Bob was very focused on highlighting the fact that they are still working on their technology stack, unifying their platform into one app.
Speaker #3: So I don't know what the impact will really be on us. We're having conversations with the various teams, as I mentioned, strong conversations with ESPN.
Speaker #3: We have announced some of the things that we plan to do with ESPN. We've spoken to Dana and others on the Hulu team. And our board has been very focused on trying to make sure that we're talking to the right people to really grow the business.
David Gandler: And our board has been very focused on trying to make sure that we're talking to the right people to really grow the business. So from my perspective, I don't really see any changes in the short term, but obviously, that's yet to be determined.
And our board has been very focused on trying to make sure that we're talking to the right people to really grow the business. So from my perspective, I don't really see any changes in the short term, but obviously, that's yet to be determined.
Speaker #3: So, from my perspective, I don't really see any changes in the short term. But, obviously, that's yet to be determined.
Speaker #8: Okay. And then my second one is I was really intrigued in your shareholder letter that you said you were investing in the next generation of consumer-centric innovations.
Laura Martin: Okay. And then my second one is I was really intrigued in your shareholder letter that you said you were investing in the next generation of consumer-centric innovations. And it sounded like your goal is to close the gap with YouTube TV, which has about 10 million subs, as your biggest competitor now that you guys are 6.2 million subs. What kinds of things are on that roadmap for the next generation of consumer-centric innovations that would help you close that subscriber gap?
Laura Martin: Okay. And then my second one is I was really intrigued in your shareholder letter that you said you were investing in the next generation of consumer-centric innovations. And it sounded like your goal is to close the gap with YouTube TV, which has about 10 million subs, as your biggest competitor now that you guys are 6.2 million subs. What kinds of things are on that roadmap for the next generation of consumer-centric innovations that would help you close that subscriber gap?
Speaker #8: And it sounded like your goal is to close the gap with YouTube Live TV, which has about 10 million subs, as your biggest competitor now that you guys are at 6.2 million subs.
Speaker #8: What kinds of things are on that roadmap for the next generation of consumer-centric innovations that would help you close that subscriber gap?
Speaker #8: gap? Yeah, so
David Gandler: Yeah. So look, there's lots of things that we're focused on. We think that there's a huge opportunity around mobile. We see a significant number of subscribers, trial users that enter our ecosystem through the mobile app. And so we'll be relaunching that experience shortly. And again, we're continuing to review some of the amazing capabilities that Disney and ESPN have. And when you look at their fantasy business, which has over 10 million users, you think about their betting capabilities. And when you sort of look at all of the ways in which that we can engage a very large funnel, we start thinking about ways in which that we can really sort of develop our technology, our consumer apps, and features around that. So there'll be more to come on that front. But yes, we're very focused on product.
David Gandler: Yeah. So look, there's lots of things that we're focused on. We think that there's a huge opportunity around mobile. We see a significant number of subscribers, trial users that enter our ecosystem through the mobile app. And so we'll be relaunching that experience shortly. And again, we're continuing to review some of the amazing capabilities that Disney and ESPN have. And when you look at their fantasy business, which has over 10 million users, you think about their betting capabilities. And when you sort of look at all of the ways in which that we can engage a very large funnel, we start thinking about ways in which that we can really sort of develop our technology, our consumer apps, and features around that. So there'll be more to come on that front. But yes, we're very focused on product.
Speaker #3: Look, there’s lots of things that we’re focused on. We think that there’s a huge opportunity around mobile. We see a significant number of subscribers, trial users, that enter our ecosystem through the mobile app.
Speaker #3: And so we'll be relaunching that experience shortly. And again, we're continuing to review some of the amazing capabilities that Disney and ESPN have. And when you look at their fantasy business, which has over 10 million users, you think about their betting capabilities, and when you sort of look at all of the ways in which we can engage a very large funnel, we start thinking about ways in which we can really sort of develop our technology, our consumer apps, and features around that.
Speaker #3: So there'll be more to come on that front. But yes, we're very focused on product.
Speaker #8: Okay. And I'm going to violate the rule, and I'm going to drill down on the betting. One of the things you did early on, David, is you really wanted to go into betting, and then we just couldn't afford the cost.
Laura Martin: Okay. And I'm going to violate the rule, and I'm going to drill down on the betting. One of the things you did early on, David, is, really, you really wanted to go into betting, and then we just couldn't afford the cost. Could you get back into the betting business through ESPN?
Laura Martin: Okay. And I'm going to violate the rule, and I'm going to drill down on the betting. One of the things you did early on, David, is, really, you really wanted to go into betting, and then we just couldn't afford the cost. Could you get back into the betting business through ESPN?
Speaker #8: Could you get back into the betting business through
Speaker #8: ESPN?
Speaker #3: So again, I don't think
David Gandler: So again, I don't think anything's off the table. It's still early. Like I said, we've only been talking with Disney and ESPN for a couple of months. So we're trying to navigate the different teams. But I do think that we have a very strong engineering team. We have a strong product DNA at Fubo. And we'll be looking to bring ideas that we can deliver to Disney across the Fubo platform. But as I think about Disney, generally speaking, I would say it's akin to being a kid in a candy store. We're a sports platform. And when you look at the size, the reach that they have, the different elements, and touchpoints that they use to drive engagement, I think that we can really develop a strong business there.
David Gandler: So again, I don't think anything's off the table. It's still early. Like I said, we've only been talking with Disney and ESPN for a couple of months. So we're trying to navigate the different teams. But I do think that we have a very strong engineering team. We have a strong product DNA at Fubo. And we'll be looking to bring ideas that we can deliver to Disney across the Fubo platform. But as I think about Disney, generally speaking, I would say it's akin to being a kid in a candy store. We're a sports platform. And when you look at the size, the reach that they have, the different elements, and touchpoints that they use to drive engagement, I think that we can really develop a strong business there.
Speaker #3: Anything's off the table. It's still early. Like I said, we've only been talking with Disney and ESPN for a couple of months. So we're trying to navigate the different teams, but I do think that we have a very strong engineering team.
Speaker #3: We have a strong product DNA at Fubo. And we'll be looking to bring ideas that we can deliver to Disney across the Fubo platform.
Speaker #3: But as I think about Disney generally speaking, I would say it's akin to being a kid in a candy store. We're a sports platform.
Speaker #3: And when you look at the size, the reach that they have, the different elements and touchpoints that they use to drive engagement, I think that we can really develop a strong business there.
Speaker #3: And just some of the things that you and I already talked about, I believe, were highlight generation, which we've been really focused on as well.
David Gandler: Just some of the things that you and I already talked about, I believe, were highlight generation, which we've been really focused on as well. I think there's an area to improve as well. And then the DVR experience related to sports, I think, is another area where we continue to innovate given the number of events that we carry and the level of personalization that we afford consumers. So I'm very excited, generally speaking. It's just a matter of meeting with the right teams and focusing on delivering value for our consumers.
Just some of the things that you and I already talked about, I believe, were highlight generation, which we've been really focused on as well. I think there's an area to improve as well. And then the DVR experience related to sports, I think, is another area where we continue to innovate given the number of events that we carry and the level of personalization that we afford consumers. So I'm very excited, generally speaking. It's just a matter of meeting with the right teams and focusing on delivering value for our consumers.
Speaker #3: I think there's an area to improve as well. And then the DVR experience related to sports, I think, is another area where we continue to innovate given the number of events that we carry and the level of personalization that we afford consumers.
Speaker #3: So, I'm very excited, generally speaking. It's just a matter of meeting with the right teams and focusing on delivering value for our—
Speaker #4: Your next question comes from the line of David Joyce with Seaport Research Partners. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of David Joyce with Seaport Research Partners. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of David Joyce with Seaport Research Partners. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Thank you, appreciate the follow-ups. There’s a lot to digest here with the new Fubo. Two things: one, people were concerned when they saw Disney's shelf filing for Fubo shares, but could you please confirm that the two-year standstill is there and why the filing came out?
David Joyce: Thank you. Appreciate the follow-ups. There's a lot to digest here with the new Fubo. Two things. One, people were concerned when they saw Disney shelf filing for Fubo shares. But could you please confirm that that two-year standstill is there and why the filing came out? And then secondly, what's your philosophy on guidance metrics from here? Normally, that's something you did Fubo standalone. But any sort of projections or guardrails you would put up for us? Thanks.
David Joyce: Thank you. Appreciate the follow-ups. There's a lot to digest here with the new Fubo. Two things. One, people were concerned when they saw Disney shelf filing for Fubo shares. But could you please confirm that that two-year standstill is there and why the filing came out? And then secondly, what's your philosophy on guidance metrics from here? Normally, that's something you did Fubo standalone. But any sort of projections or guardrails you would put up for us? Thanks.
Speaker #7: And then secondly, what's your philosophy on guidance metrics from here? Normally, that's something you did Fubo standalone, but any sort of projections or guardrails you would put up for us?
Speaker #7: Thanks.
Speaker #3: Yeah, sure, David. Thanks for the question. So, on the first one—look, the short answer is that's correct. So the two-year lockup remains in place.
John Janedis: Yeah. Sure, David. Hey, thanks for the question. So on the first one, look, the short answer is that's correct. So the 2-year lockup remains in place. Look, it was a routine housekeeping item following the Hulu Live closing that required us to just put up a new shelf, including registering Disney's shares. But Disney remains subject to the 24-month lockup period, and the filing does not change that restriction in any way. On the guidance, I would say no guardrails yet. Look, the comment in the letter around guidance suggests there are just some factors that were in the process of refining in terms of timing and sizing. And that's going to impact our subs and therefore our subscription and therefore the ad revenue. Just as an example, today's agreement with ESPN, the timing on that, for example, or the NBC programming.
John Janedis: Yeah. Sure, David. Hey, thanks for the question. So on the first one, look, the short answer is that's correct. So the 2-year lockup remains in place. Look, it was a routine housekeeping item following the Hulu Live closing that required us to just put up a new shelf, including registering Disney's shares. But Disney remains subject to the 24-month lockup period, and the filing does not change that restriction in any way. On the guidance, I would say no guardrails yet. Look, the comment in the letter around guidance suggests there are just some factors that were in the process of refining in terms of timing and sizing. And that's going to impact our subs and therefore our subscription and therefore the ad revenue. Just as an example, today's agreement with ESPN, the timing on that, for example, or the NBC programming.
Speaker #3: Look, the shelf, it was a routine housekeeping item following the Hulu Live closing that required us to just put up a new shelf, including registering Disney shares.
Speaker #3: But Disney remains subject to the 24-month lockup period, and the filing does not change that restriction in any way. On the guidance, I would say no guardrails yet.
Speaker #3: Look, the comment in the letter around guidance suggests, look, there are just some factors that we're in the process of refining. In terms of timing and sizing, and that's going to impact our subs, and therefore our subscription, and therefore the ad revenue.
Speaker #3: Just as an example, today's agreement with ESPN, the timing on that, for example, or the NBC programming, but look, we're only 98 days into this combination.
John Janedis: But look, we're only 98 days into this combination, so it's just going to take us a little bit more time.
But look, we're only 98 days into this combination, so it's just going to take us a little bit more time.
Speaker #3: So it's just going to take us a little bit more time. Yeah. And just to add one more point on the reverse split, again, I think we've been very transparent from the onset.
David Gandler: Yeah. And just to add one more point on the reverse split, again, I think we've been very transparent from the onset. People, of course, get nervous around hearing reverse splits. But the reality is it was important for us to align with our operational scale. We wanted to reduce volatility and also attract institutional investment. These are natural things that have to take place. And it really is part of the corporate hygiene that we're trying to put in place, particularly after we've dealt with the convert. So again, all of this is sort of trying to prepare Fubo for a very bright future. And this is just one of those steps.
David Gandler: Yeah. And just to add one more point on the reverse split, again, I think we've been very transparent from the onset. People, of course, get nervous around hearing reverse splits. But the reality is it was important for us to align with our operational scale. We wanted to reduce volatility and also attract institutional investment. These are natural things that have to take place. And it really is part of the corporate hygiene that we're trying to put in place, particularly after we've dealt with the convert. So again, all of this is sort of trying to prepare Fubo for a very bright future. And this is just one of those steps.
Speaker #3: People, of course, get nervous around hearing reverse splits, but the reality is it was important for us to align with our operational scale; we wanted to reduce volatility and also attract institutional investment.
Speaker #3: These are natural things that have to take place. And it really is part of the corporate hygiene that we're trying to put in place particularly after we've dealt with the convert.
Speaker #3: So again, all of this is sort of trying to prepare Fubo for a very bright future. And this is just one of those.
Speaker #3: steps. That concludes our
Operator: That concludes our question-and-answer session. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the Fubo Q1 2026 earnings call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.
Operator: That concludes our question-and-answer session. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the Fubo Q1 2026 earnings call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.
