Q4 2025 FrontView REIT Inc Earnings Call

Operator: Good day, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the FrontView Inc. Q4 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all lines are in listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press star zero for the operator. This call is being recorded on Wednesday, 25 February 2026. I will now like to turn the conference over to Pierre Revol, CFO of FrontView. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Following the presentation, we'll conduct a question-and-answer session. If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press *0* for the operator.

Speaker #2: This call is being recorded on Wednesday. 25th of February, 2026. I will now like to turn the conference over to Pierre Revol, CFO of FrontView.

Speaker #2: Please go ahead. Thank you, operator. And thank you, everyone, for joining us for FrontView's fourth quarter and year-end 2025 earnings call. I will be joined on the call by Steve Preston, Chairman and CEO.

Pierre Revol: Thank you, operator, and thank you everyone for joining us for FrontView's Q4 and year-end 2025 earnings call. I will be joined on the call by Steve Preston, Chairman and CEO. In addition, Drew Ireland, our Chief Operating Officer, will be available for Q&A. Before we get started, I would like to remind everyone that this presentation contains forward-looking statements. Although we believe these forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, they are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that can cause actual results to differ materially from those currently anticipated due to several factors. I refer you to the safe harbor statement in our most recent filings with the SEC for a detailed discussion of the risk factors relating to these forward-looking statements. This presentation also contains certain non-GAAP financial metrics.

Pierre Revol: Thank you, operator, and thank you everyone for joining us for FrontView's Q4 and year-end 2025 earnings call. I will be joined on the call by Steve Preston, Chairman and CEO. In addition, Drew Ireland, our Chief Operating Officer, will be available for Q&A. Before we get started, I would like to remind everyone that this presentation contains forward-looking statements. Although we believe these forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, they are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that can cause actual results to differ materially from those currently anticipated due to several factors. I refer you to the safe harbor statement in our most recent filings with the SEC for a detailed discussion of the risk factors relating to these forward-looking statements. This presentation also contains certain non-GAAP financial metrics.

Speaker #2: In addition, Drew Ireland, our Chief Operating Officer, will be available for Q&A. Before we get started, I would like to remind everyone that this presentation contains forward-looking statements.

Speaker #2: Although we believe these forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, they are subject to known and unknown risk and uncertainties that can cause actual results to differ materially from those currently anticipated due to several factors.

Speaker #2: I refer you to the safe harbor statement in our most recent filings with the SEC for a detailed discussion of the risk factors relating to these forward-looking statements.

Speaker #2: This presentation also contains certain non-GAAP financial metrics. Reconciliation of non-GAAP financial metrics to the most directly comparable GAAP metrics is included in the exhibits for the SEC.

Pierre Revol: Reconciliation to non-GAAP financial metrics to most directly comparable GAAP metrics is included in the exhibits first to the SEC under Form 8-K, which include our earnings release, supplemental package, and investor presentation. These materials are available on the investor relations page of our company website. With that, I'm now pleased to introduce Steve Preston. Steve?

Pierre Revol: Reconciliation to non-GAAP financial metrics to most directly comparable GAAP metrics is included in the exhibits first to the SEC under Form 8-K, which include our earnings release, supplemental package, and investor presentation. These materials are available on the investor relations page of our company website. With that, I'm now pleased to introduce Steve Preston. Steve?

Speaker #2: Under Form 8K, which includes our earnings release, supplemental package, and investor presentation. These materials are available on the investor relations page of our company website.

Speaker #2: With that, I'm now pleased to introduce Steve Preston. Steve?

Speaker #3: Great. Thank you, Pierre. And good morning, everyone. I am very pleased to discuss our fourth quarter and full-year results. Today, FrontView is operationally stronger, financially more resilient, and strategically better positioned than at any point since becoming public.

Stephen Preston: Great. Thank you, Pierre. Good morning, everyone. I am very pleased to discuss our Q4 and full year results. Today, FrontView is operationally stronger, financially more resilient, and strategically better positioned than at any point since becoming public. Our portfolio has been refined. Our balance sheet remains conservative. We have secured capital to fund accretive growth opportunities consistent with our real estate first philosophy. As a reminder, our portfolio was built around a real estate-centric strategy, focusing on acquiring fungible, frontage-based assets, typically located in front of major retail nodes in the top 100 MSAs nationwide. Our strong real estate provides critical advantages and quicker outcomes when recycling, re-tenanting, or repositioning tenants. For example, we owned 1 Tricolor auto dealership that closed in early Q4 due to the widely reported Tricolor bankruptcy.

Stephen Preston: Great. Thank you, Pierre. Good morning, everyone. I am very pleased to discuss our Q4 and full year results. Today, FrontView is operationally stronger, financially more resilient, and strategically better positioned than at any point since becoming public. Our portfolio has been refined. Our balance sheet remains conservative. We have secured capital to fund accretive growth opportunities consistent with our real estate first philosophy. As a reminder, our portfolio was built around a real estate-centric strategy, focusing on acquiring fungible, frontage-based assets, typically located in front of major retail nodes in the top 100 MSAs nationwide. Our strong real estate provides critical advantages and quicker outcomes when recycling, re-tenanting, or repositioning tenants. For example, we owned 1 Tricolor auto dealership that closed in early Q4 due to the widely reported Tricolor bankruptcy.

Speaker #3: Our portfolio has been refined. Our balance sheet remains conservative. We have secured capital to fund accretive growth opportunities consistent with our real estate-first philosophy.

Speaker #3: As a reminder, our portfolio was built around a real estate-centric strategy focusing on acquiring fungible, frontage-based assets typically located in front of major retail nodes in the top 100 MSAs nationwide.

Speaker #3: Our strong real estate provides critical advantages and quicker outcomes when recycling, retenting, or repositioning tenants. For example, we owned one Tricolor auto dealership that closed in early Q4 due to the widely reported Tricolor bankruptcy.

Speaker #3: Due to the quality of our real estate and our experienced management team, we quickly released the property to Avis in the same quarter resulting in a substantial credit upgrade and an approximately 24% increase in value for our shareholders.

Stephen Preston: Due to the quality of our real estate and our experienced management team, we quickly released the property to Avis in the same quarter, resulting in a substantial credit upgrade and an approximately 24% increase in value for our shareholders. Historically, since founding the REIT in 2016, our experience has been that we have achieved, on average, over 110% of prior rent when leasing to a new tenant. Results like these cannot happen without top-tier real estate quality and a top-tier management team. Our tenant base remains heavily diversified across necessity and service-based industries. Today, we have 321 leases, with the top 10 accounting for only 24% of ABR, and our largest tenant contributing just 3.5%.

Stephen Preston: Due to the quality of our real estate and our experienced management team, we quickly released the property to Avis in the same quarter, resulting in a substantial credit upgrade and an approximately 24% increase in value for our shareholders. Historically, since founding the REIT in 2016, our experience has been that we have achieved, on average, over 110% of prior rent when leasing to a new tenant. Results like these cannot happen without top-tier real estate quality and a top-tier management team. Our tenant base remains heavily diversified across necessity and service-based industries. Today, we have 321 leases, with the top 10 accounting for only 24% of ABR, and our largest tenant contributing just 3.5%.

Speaker #3: Historically, since founding the REIT in 2016, our experience has been that we have achieved, on average, over 110% of prior rent when leasing to a new tenant.

Speaker #3: Results like these cannot happen without top-tier real estate quality and a top-tier management team. Our tenant base remains heavily diversified across necessity and service-based industries.

Speaker #3: Today, we have 321 leases with the top 10 accounting for only 24% of ABR, and our largest tenant contributing just 3.5%. In addition to our real estate-first philosophy, diversification has been part of our strategy from day one and serves as another risk mitigant keeping exposure to any single tenant low as credits come and go over time.

Stephen Preston: In addition to our real estate first philosophy, diversification has been part of our strategy from day one and serves as another risk mitigant, keeping exposure to any single tenant low as credits come and go over time. During Q4, we acquired 7 properties for approximately $41.3 million, at an average cap rate of 7.5%, with a weighted average remaining lease term of approximately 13.1 years. In 2025, we acquired 32 properties for approximately $124.1 million, at an average cash cap rate of 7.74%, and a weighted average remaining lease term of approximately 12.4 years. Since the IPO in October 2024, we have added 61 properties and increased the initial asset base by nearly 30%.

Stephen Preston: In addition to our real estate first philosophy, diversification has been part of our strategy from day one and serves as another risk mitigant, keeping exposure to any single tenant low as credits come and go over time. During Q4, we acquired 7 properties for approximately $41.3 million, at an average cap rate of 7.5%, with a weighted average remaining lease term of approximately 13.1 years. In 2025, we acquired 32 properties for approximately $124.1 million, at an average cash cap rate of 7.74%, and a weighted average remaining lease term of approximately 12.4 years. Since the IPO in October 2024, we have added 61 properties and increased the initial asset base by nearly 30%.

Speaker #3: During the fourth quarter, we acquired seven properties for approximately $41.3 million, at an average cap rate of 7.5%, with a weighted average remaining lease term of approximately 13.1 years.

Speaker #3: In 2025, we acquired 32 properties, for approximately 124.1 million, at an average cash cap rate of 7.74%, and a weighted average remaining lease term of approximately 12.4 years.

Speaker #3: Since the IPO in October of 2024, we have added 61 properties and increased the initial asset base by nearly 30%. Starting this quarter and going forward, to help you better understand our real estate strategy, we will highlight one quarterly acquisition on the cover of our investor presentation and briefly discuss it during our calls.

Stephen Preston: Starting this quarter and going forward, to help you better understand our real estate strategy, we will highlight one quarterly acquisition on the cover of our investor presentation and briefly discuss it during our calls. This quarter, we are highlighting a 7 Brew in Jacksonville, Florida. 7 Brew is a rapidly growing drive-thru coffee chain, founded in 2017, known for its high energy, double drive-thru model and offering over 20,000 unique drink combinations. It received a growth equity investment from Blackstone in 2024 and has over 600 locations today, and is working with some of the most experienced franchisee operators in the country. We like their business model and have 3 properties leased to them in the portfolio, which is about 0.6% of ABR.

Stephen Preston: Starting this quarter and going forward, to help you better understand our real estate strategy, we will highlight one quarterly acquisition on the cover of our investor presentation and briefly discuss it during our calls. This quarter, we are highlighting a 7 Brew in Jacksonville, Florida. 7 Brew is a rapidly growing drive-thru coffee chain, founded in 2017, known for its high energy, double drive-thru model and offering over 20,000 unique drink combinations. It received a growth equity investment from Blackstone in 2024 and has over 600 locations today, and is working with some of the most experienced franchisee operators in the country. We like their business model and have 3 properties leased to them in the portfolio, which is about 0.6% of ABR.

Speaker #3: This quarter, we are highlighting a 7 Brew in Jacksonville, Florida. 7 Brew is a rapidly growing, drive-through coffee chain founded in 2017. Known for its high energy, double drive-through model, and offering over 20,000 unique drink combinations.

Speaker #3: It received a growth equity investment from Blackstone in 2024 and has over 600 locations today, and is working with some of the most experienced franchisee operators in the country.

Speaker #3: We like their business model and have three properties leased to them in the portfolio, which is about 0.6% of ABR. We acquired this property at approximately an 8% cap rate.

Stephen Preston: We acquired this property at approximately an 8 cap rate, well above the low 6 cap rate we believe a new 7 Brew would typically trade at today. The property is very well located within a top 100 MSA. It features direct frontage on a major retail node. The land provides tenant flexibility, and the lease has a 15-year term, annual rental escalators. It is Triple Net, and it has a modest rent of $168,000 annually, which we believe other tenants could afford to pay in this desirable Florida location. We achieved a higher cap rate due to liens associated with the recent construction, which limited the buyer pool. We resolved the liens directly, cleared title, and ultimately closed on the transaction.

Stephen Preston: We acquired this property at approximately an 8 cap rate, well above the low 6 cap rate we believe a new 7 Brew would typically trade at today. The property is very well located within a top 100 MSA. It features direct frontage on a major retail node. The land provides tenant flexibility, and the lease has a 15-year term, annual rental escalators. It is Triple Net, and it has a modest rent of $168,000 annually, which we believe other tenants could afford to pay in this desirable Florida location. We achieved a higher cap rate due to liens associated with the recent construction, which limited the buyer pool. We resolved the liens directly, cleared title, and ultimately closed on the transaction.

Speaker #3: Well above the low 6 cap rate, we believe, a new 7 Brew would typically trade at today. The property is very well located, within a top 100 MSA, it features direct frontage, on a major retail node, the land provides tenant flexibility, and the lease has a 15-year term, annual rental escalators, it is triple net, and has a modest rent of $168,000 annually, which we believe other tenants could afford to pay in this desirable Florida location.

Speaker #3: We achieved a higher cap rate due to liens associated with the recent construction, which limited the buyer pool. We resolved the liens directly, cleared title, and ultimately closed on the transaction.

Speaker #3: Being known in the marketplace as a buyer who can identify, and resolve problems during an acquisition, further strengthens our position as a buyer of choice.

Stephen Preston: Being known in the marketplace as a buyer who can identify and resolve problems during an acquisition, further strengthens our position as a buyer of choice. Our largest acquisition during the quarter was a DICK'S House of Sport, located in Durham, North Carolina, adjacent to The Streets at Southpoint, a Brookfield-owned mall that does just over $900 per square foot in sales and is rated an A-plus mall in Green Street Advisors' mall database. We are excited about the real estate location and are very familiar with this flagship concept, and owning select larger boxes. We already own a few larger format assets with strong frontage, such as Walmart, Lowe's, Best Buy, et cetera, and will continue to own more of these assets when the opportunities present themselves....

Stephen Preston: Being known in the marketplace as a buyer who can identify and resolve problems during an acquisition, further strengthens our position as a buyer of choice. Our largest acquisition during the quarter was a House of Sport, located in Durham, North Carolina, adjacent to The Streets at Southpoint, a Brookfield-owned mall that does just over $900 per square foot in sales and is rated an A-plus mall in Green Street Advisors' mall database. We are excited about the real estate location and are very familiar with this flagship concept, and owning select larger boxes. We already own a few larger format assets with strong frontage, such as Walmart, Lowe's, Best Buy, et cetera, and will continue to own more of these assets when the opportunities present themselves....

Speaker #3: Our largest acquisition during the quarter was a Dick's House of Sports, located in Durham, North Carolina, adjacent to The Streets at Southpoint, a Brookfield-owned mall that does just over $900 per square foot in sales, and is rated an A+ mall in Green Street's and Visors' mall database.

Speaker #3: We are excited about the real estate location and are very familiar with this flagship concept, and owning select larger boxes. We already own a few larger format assets with strong frontage, such as Walmart, Lowe's, Best Buy, etc., and will continue to own more of these assets when the opportunities present themselves.

Speaker #3: We are always seeking to acquire assets with value creation opportunities that fit our investment criteria, and we place this asset under control earlier in 2025, while the project was under construction, to take advantage of attractive pricing.

Stephen Preston: We are always seeking to acquire assets with value creation opportunities that fit our investment criteria. We placed this asset under control earlier in 2025, while the project was under construction, to take advantage of attractive pricing. As a result, we believe we have created about 100 basis points of value based upon our purchase price cap rate in the mid-7s. The acquisition market remains open to us. With our competitive advantages intact, we believe we can materially increase our acquisition pace as our cost of capital improves. We expect acquisition cap rates for Q1 2026 to settle around 7.5%, with volumes generally in line with guidance.

Stephen Preston: We are always seeking to acquire assets with value creation opportunities that fit our investment criteria. We placed this asset under control earlier in 2025, while the project was under construction, to take advantage of attractive pricing. As a result, we believe we have created about 100 basis points of value based upon our purchase price cap rate in the mid-7s. The acquisition market remains open to us. With our competitive advantages intact, we believe we can materially increase our acquisition pace as our cost of capital improves. We expect acquisition cap rates for Q1 2026 to settle around 7.5%, with volumes generally in line with guidance.

Speaker #3: As a result, we believe we have created about 100 basis points of value based upon our purchase price cap rate in the mid-7s. The acquisition market remains open to us, with our competitive advantages intact, and we believe we can materially increase our acquisition pace as our cost of capital improves.

Speaker #3: We expect acquisition cap rates for Q1 '26 to settle around 7.5%, with volumes generally in line with guidance. As previously reported on the capital side, we have our net acquisitions funded for the year with our $75 million convertible preferred investment from May 1, with our first $25 million draw completed already in February.

Stephen Preston: As previously reported, on the capital side, we have our net acquisitions funded for the year with our $75 million convertible preferred investment from AEW, with our first $25 million draw completed already in February. With respect to dispositions, we sold 11 properties for $20.4 million during the quarter, at an average cash cap rate of approximately 6.82% for the occupied assets, with a weighted average lease term of 6.9 years. For the calendar year, we sold 36 properties for $78 million at an average cash cap rate of approximately 6.79% for the occupied assets, with a weighted average lease term of 7.9 years. For the year, the disposition cap rate range was 5.4% to 8%, with the median cap rate on sales at 6.9%.

Stephen Preston: As previously reported, on the capital side, we have our net acquisitions funded for the year with our $75 million convertible preferred investment from AEW, with our first $25 million draw completed already in February. With respect to dispositions, we sold 11 properties for $20.4 million during the quarter, at an average cash cap rate of approximately 6.82% for the occupied assets, with a weighted average lease term of 6.9 years. For the calendar year, we sold 36 properties for $78 million at an average cash cap rate of approximately 6.79% for the occupied assets, with a weighted average lease term of 7.9 years. For the year, the disposition cap rate range was 5.4% to 8%, with the median cap rate on sales at 6.9%.

Speaker #3: With respect to dispositions, we sold 11 properties for $20.4 million during the quarter, at an average cash cap rate of approximately 6.82% for the occupied assets, with a weighted average lease term of 6.9 years.

Speaker #3: For the calendar year, we sold 36 properties for $78 million at an average cash cap rate of approximately 6.79% for the occupied assets, with a weighted average lease term of 7.9 years.

Speaker #3: For the year, the disposition cap rate range was 5.4% to 8%, with the median cap rate on sales at 6.9%. In the fourth quarter, the lowest cap rate was a Twin Peaks and Irving, Texas, where we achieved a 5.8% cap rate.

Stephen Preston: In Q4, the lowest cap rate was a Twin Peaks in Irving, Texas, where we achieved a 5.8% cap rate. The assets we have disposed of are less optimal concepts compared to the balance of our portfolio, or they could be concepts we just want to reduce exposure to. We expect to continue optimizing the portfolio through 2026, though we expect the pace of dispositions to decline materially as most of our portfolio optimization occurred in 2025. Since our IPO, the 2025 dispositions reduced the asset base by 11%. During Q4, we sold the following concepts: Red Robin, Sonic, Twin Peaks, which is now bankrupt, Advance Auto, a dark PNC, Bojangles, and First Bank. These asset sales clearly demonstrate the desirability and liquidity of our well-located real estate portfolio.

Stephen Preston: In Q4, the lowest cap rate was a Twin Peaks in Irving, Texas, where we achieved a 5.8% cap rate. The assets we have disposed of are less optimal concepts compared to the balance of our portfolio, or they could be concepts we just want to reduce exposure to. We expect to continue optimizing the portfolio through 2026, though we expect the pace of dispositions to decline materially as most of our portfolio optimization occurred in 2025. Since our IPO, the 2025 dispositions reduced the asset base by 11%. During Q4, we sold the following concepts: Red Robin, Sonic, Twin Peaks, which is now bankrupt, Advance Auto, a dark PNC, Bojangles, and First Bank. These asset sales clearly demonstrate the desirability and liquidity of our well-located real estate portfolio.

Speaker #3: The assets we have disposed of are less optimal concepts compared to the balance of our portfolio, or they could be concepts we just want to reduce exposure to.

Speaker #3: We expect to continue optimizing the portfolio through 2026, though we expect the pace of dispositions to decline materially as most of our portfolio optimization occurred in 2025.

Speaker #3: Since our IPO, the 2025 dispositions reduced the asset base by 11%. During the quarter, we sold the following concepts: Red Robin, Sonic, Twin Peaks, which is now bankrupt, Adams Auto, and a dark P&C, Bojangles, and First Bank.

Speaker #3: These asset sales clearly demonstrate the desirability and liquidity of our well-located real estate portfolio. They highlight the disconnect between our stock price and the implied 8.1% capitalization rate on existing NOI.

Stephen Preston: They highlight the disconnect between our stock price and the implied 8.1% cap rate on existing NOI. Interestingly, our implied cap rate is higher than what we sold a dark Bojangles in Alabama for, with less than 4 years remaining on the lease term. Our highest cap rate sale for the quarter and year, 160 basis points above the average disposition cap rate for properties sold in Q4. I would draw your attention to page 23 of our investor presentation, where we show our dislocated NAV relative to the entire portfolio being valued at the same level as the assets we sold in the quarter, along with the average implied cap rate of our peers. Switching gears to the portfolio, we closed the quarter with occupancy approaching 99%, with just 4 vacant assets.

Stephen Preston: They highlight the disconnect between our stock price and the implied 8.1% cap rate on existing NOI. Interestingly, our implied cap rate is higher than what we sold a dark Bojangles in Alabama for, with less than 4 years remaining on the lease term. Our highest cap rate sale for the quarter and year, 160 basis points above the average disposition cap rate for properties sold in Q4. I would draw your attention to page 23 of our investor presentation, where we show our dislocated NAV relative to the entire portfolio being valued at the same level as the assets we sold in the quarter, along with the average implied cap rate of our peers. Switching gears to the portfolio, we closed the quarter with occupancy approaching 99%, with just 4 vacant assets.

Speaker #3: Interestingly, our implied cap rate is higher than what we sold a dark Bojangles in Alabama for, with less than four years remaining on the lease term.

Speaker #3: Our highest cap rate sale for the quarter and year and $160 basis points above the average disposition cap rate for properties sold in Q4.

Speaker #3: I would draw your attention to page 23 of our investor presentation, where we show our dislocated NAV relative to the entire portfolio being valued at the same level as the assets we sold in the quarter, along with the average implied cap rate of our peers.

Speaker #3: Switching gears to the portfolio, we closed the quarter with occupancy approaching 99%, with just four vacant assets. We currently have two tenants in bankruptcy.

Stephen Preston: We currently have two tenants in bankruptcy, Smokey Bones and Twin Peaks, each with one unit, representing a combined 0.56% of ABR. With Smokey Bones, we have already received multiple offers to purchase the asset during the year, though we believe we can maximize value by re-leasing the asset, so we waited until the bankruptcy went through to obtain control of the property. With respect to our remaining Twin Peaks, we have understood Twin Peaks' financial condition for some time and got ahead of their bankruptcy, selling one property in the quarter at a 5.8% cap rate and already re-leasing the second property to two tenants, Panda Express and Jagger's.

Stephen Preston: We currently have two tenants in bankruptcy, Smokey Bones and Twin Peaks, each with one unit, representing a combined 0.56% of ABR. With Smokey Bones, we have already received multiple offers to purchase the asset during the year, though we believe we can maximize value by re-leasing the asset, so we waited until the bankruptcy went through to obtain control of the property. With respect to our remaining Twin Peaks, we have understood Twin Peaks' financial condition for some time and got ahead of their bankruptcy, selling one property in the quarter at a 5.8% cap rate and already re-leasing the second property to two tenants, Panda Express and Jagger's.

Speaker #3: Smoky Bones, and Twin Peaks, each with one unit, representing a combined 0.56% of ABR. With Smoky Bones, we have already received multiple offers to purchase the asset during the year, though we believe we can maximize value by releasing the asset so we waited until the bankruptcy went through to obtain control of the property.

Speaker #3: With respect to our remaining Twin Peaks, we have understood Twin Peaks' financial condition for some time, and got ahead of their bankruptcy, selling one property in the quarter at a 5.8% cap rate and already releasing the second property to two tenants.

Speaker #3: Panda Express and Jaggers—the combined rent for both of these leases is $265,000 versus Twin Peaks' rent of approximately $138,000, resulting in a 92% increase in rent, and approximately a three-times increase in value from our original basis.

Stephen Preston: The combined rent for both of these leases is $265,000, versus Twin Peaks' rent of approximately $138,000, resulting in a 92% increase in rent and approximately a 3x increase in value from our original basis. This is an excellent outcome and another example of why our real estate-focused approach, combined with our seasoned management team, continues to deliver value for our investors. Historically, we achieved an average recovery rate of approximately 90% when combining both vacant sales and new leases, though just our new leases alone have exceeded 110%. When an asset comes back, we will initially spend more time pursuing re-lease options rather than quickly selling an asset in order to maximize long-term value for our shareholders. For example, our current Smokey Bones.

Stephen Preston: The combined rent for both of these leases is $265,000, versus Twin Peaks' rent of approximately $138,000, resulting in a 92% increase in rent and approximately a 3x increase in value from our original basis. This is an excellent outcome and another example of why our real estate-focused approach, combined with our seasoned management team, continues to deliver value for our investors. Historically, we achieved an average recovery rate of approximately 90% when combining both vacant sales and new leases, though just our new leases alone have exceeded 110%. When an asset comes back, we will initially spend more time pursuing re-lease options rather than quickly selling an asset in order to maximize long-term value for our shareholders. For example, our current Smokey Bones.

Speaker #3: This is an excellent outcome and another example of why a real estate-focused approach combined with our seasoned management team continues to deliver value for our investors.

Speaker #3: Historically, we have achieved an average recovery rate of approximately 90% when combining both vacant sales and new leases, though just our new leases alone have exceeded 110%.

Speaker #3: As a result, when an asset comes back, we will initially spend more time pursuing release options rather than quickly selling an asset in order to maximize long-term value for our shareholders.

Speaker #3: For example, our current Smoky Bones. As we have continued to optimize the portfolio through Q4, we don't see any material additions to our watchlist at this point, and for clarity, we believe bad debt should be approximately 50 basis points in 2026.

Stephen Preston: As we have continued to optimize the portfolio through Q4, we don't see any material additions to our watch list at this point. For clarity, we believe bad debt should be approximately 50 basis points in 2026. In closing, FrontView is stronger today than at any point since our IPO. We have optimized our portfolio. We have demonstrated the fungibility and desirability of our well-located real estate. We have shown our top-tier management team's capability of proactively creating value for shareholders through creative asset management activities and capital structuring. We beat earnings and raised guidance throughout 2025 while disposing of assets, demonstrating the strength of our operations.

Stephen Preston: As we have continued to optimize the portfolio through Q4, we don't see any material additions to our watch list at this point. For clarity, we believe bad debt should be approximately 50 basis points in 2026. In closing, FrontView is stronger today than at any point since our IPO. We have optimized our portfolio. We have demonstrated the fungibility and desirability of our well-located real estate. We have shown our top-tier management team's capability of proactively creating value for shareholders through creative asset management activities and capital structuring. We beat earnings and raised guidance throughout 2025 while disposing of assets, demonstrating the strength of our operations.

Speaker #3: In closing, FrontView is stronger today than at any point since our IPO. We have optimized our portfolio, we have demonstrated the fungibility and desirability of our well-located real estate, we have shown our top-tier management team's capability of proactively creating value for shareholders through creative asset management activities, and capital structuring.

Speaker #3: We beat earnings and raised guidance throughout 2025, while disposing of assets, demonstrating the strength of our operations. We have a low dividend payout ratio below 70%, low leverage, and we are fully funded to acquire $100 million of net assets and grow AFFO per share 4% in 2026 at the midpoint of our guidance.

Stephen Preston: We have a low dividend payout ratio below 70%, low leverage, and we are fully funded to acquire $100 million of net assets and grow AFFO per share 4% in 2026, at the midpoint of our guidance. All the while, our share price remains dislocated relative to a much higher NAV, especially given that we can meaningfully accelerate our already strong growth with a lower cost of capital. We believe that our real estate-focused strategy, coupled with our developer DNA, will deliver AFFO growth and drive outsized returns for our shareholders. With that, I'll turn the call over to Pierre to re-review the quarterly numbers and guidance.

Stephen Preston: We have a low dividend payout ratio below 70%, low leverage, and we are fully funded to acquire $100 million of net assets and grow AFFO per share 4% in 2026, at the midpoint of our guidance. All the while, our share price remains dislocated relative to a much higher NAV, especially given that we can meaningfully accelerate our already strong growth with a lower cost of capital. We believe that our real estate-focused strategy, coupled with our developer DNA, will deliver AFFO growth and drive outsized returns for our shareholders. With that, I'll turn the call over to Pierre to re-review the quarterly numbers and guidance.

Speaker #3: All the while, our share price remained dislocated relative to a much higher NAV. Especially given that we can meaningfully accelerate our already strong growth with a lower cost of capital.

Speaker #3: We believe that our real estate–focused strategy, coupled with our developer DNA, will deliver AFFO growth and drive outsized returns for our shareholders. With that, I'll turn the call over to Pierre to review the quarterly numbers and guidance.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Steve. Before turning to quarterly results, I want to briefly highlight some enhancements we made to our disclosures. We now provide 100% of ABR by concept, along with key location data, including average daily traffic, Place or AI performance, and population metrics.

Pierre Revol: Thanks, Steve. Before turning to quarterly results, I want to briefly highlight some enhancements we made to our disclosures. We now provide 100% of ABR by concept, along with key location data, including average daily traffic, Placer.ai performance, and population metrics. Our properties are located in retail nodes with average daily traffic exceeding 24,000 cars. 78% are located within top 100 MSAs, and the average 5-mile population is 184,000. Placer.ai ranks retail locations from 1 to 100, with 1 being the highest rank, based on number of visits by retail subcategory within the state. Our locations have a median score of 26.8, placing them in the top third of retail locations.

Pierre Revol: Thanks, Steve. Before turning to quarterly results, I want to briefly highlight some enhancements we made to our disclosures. We now provide 100% of ABR by concept, along with key location data, including average daily traffic, Placer.ai performance, and population metrics. Our properties are located in retail nodes with average daily traffic exceeding 24,000 cars. 78% are located within top 100 MSAs, and the average 5-mile population is 184,000. Placer.ai ranks retail locations from 1 to 100, with 1 being the highest rank, based on number of visits by retail subcategory within the state. Our locations have a median score of 26.8, placing them in the top third of retail locations.

Speaker #2: Our properties are located in retail nodes with average daily traffic exceeding 24,000 cars. Seventy-eight percent are located within top 100 MSAs, and the average five-mile population is 184,000.

Speaker #2: Place or AI ranks retail locations from 1 to 100, with 1 being the highest rank based on number of visits by retail subcategory within the state.

Speaker #2: Our locations have a median score of 26.8, placing them in the top third of retail locations. And for our upcoming lease expirations in '26 and '27, our stores have a median place, or score, of 22.5 and 15.5, respectively—both in the top 25%.

Pierre Revol: For our upcoming lease expirations in 2026 and 2027, our stores have a median Placer score of 22.5 and 15.5, respectively, both in the top 25%. Finally, on our website, we disclose 100% of our property addresses, including direct Google Map links that showcases the trade area. This detailed disclosure allows investors to independently evaluate the quality of our assets and their locations. Publishing every address affirms our real estate first strategy, the assets we own, and will acquire in the future. Turning to the quarter. We entered the quarter with annualized base rent of $62.9 million, or $1.6 million higher than Q3, reflecting net acquisitions of $21 million for the quarter. This equates to approximately $15.7 million in stabilized quarterly base rent on a go-forward basis.

Pierre Revol: For our upcoming lease expirations in 2026 and 2027, our stores have a median Placer score of 22.5 and 15.5, respectively, both in the top 25%. Finally, on our website, we disclose 100% of our property addresses, including direct Google Map links that showcases the trade area. This detailed disclosure allows investors to independently evaluate the quality of our assets and their locations. Publishing every address affirms our real estate first strategy, the assets we own, and will acquire in the future. Turning to the quarter. We entered the quarter with annualized base rent of $62.9 million, or $1.6 million higher than Q3, reflecting net acquisitions of $21 million for the quarter. This equates to approximately $15.7 million in stabilized quarterly base rent on a go-forward basis.

Speaker #2: Finally, on our website, we disclose 100% of our property addresses, including direct Google Map links that showcase the trade area. This detailed disclosure allows investors to independently evaluate the quality of our assets and their locations.

Speaker #2: Publishing every address affirms our real estate-first strategy for the assets we own and will acquire in the future. Turning to the quarter, the assets of the quarter with annualized base rent of $62.9 million, or $1.6 million higher than Q3, reflecting net acquisitions of $21 million for the quarter.

Speaker #2: This equates to approximately 15.7 million in stabilized quarterly base rent on a go-forward basis. In addition to base rent in the quarter, we generated $186,000 in interest income and $76,000 in percentage rent and other cash income.

Pierre Revol: In addition to base rent in the quarter, we generated $186,000 in interest income and $76,000 in percentage rent and other cash income. At quarter end, our run rate cash revenue is $16 million or $64 million annualized. Our annualized adjusted cash NOI was $61.3 million, or a 96% margin on the in-place portfolio. As we move into 2026, we expect NOI cash margin to expand to 97%, or roughly $16 million on a normalized basis. This improvement is driven by higher occupancy, stronger recoveries on insurance, and lower other property costs. Thus, as we start 2026, our run rate quarterly cash NOI is $15.5 million. G&A expense for the period was $3.7 million, which included $534,000 of non-recurring charges and $763,000 of stock-based compensation.

Pierre Revol: In addition to base rent in the quarter, we generated $186,000 in interest income and $76,000 in percentage rent and other cash income. At quarter end, our run rate cash revenue is $16 million or $64 million annualized. Our annualized adjusted cash NOI was $61.3 million, or a 96% margin on the in-place portfolio. As we move into 2026, we expect NOI cash margin to expand to 97%, or roughly $16 million on a normalized basis. This improvement is driven by higher occupancy, stronger recoveries on insurance, and lower other property costs. Thus, as we start 2026, our run rate quarterly cash NOI is $15.5 million. G&A expense for the period was $3.7 million, which included $534,000 of non-recurring charges and $763,000 of stock-based compensation.

Speaker #2: At quarter end, our run rate cash revenue is $16 million, or $64 million annualized. Our annualized adjusted cash NOI was $61.3 million, or a 96% margin on the in-place portfolio.

Speaker #2: As we move into 2026, we expect NY cash margin to expand to 97%, or roughly $62 million, on a normalized basis. This improvement is driven by higher occupancy and stronger recoveries on insurance and lower other property costs.

Speaker #2: Thus, as we start 2026, our run rate quarterly cash NY is $15.5 million. G&A expense for the period was $3.7 million, which included $534,000 of non-recurring charges and $763,000 of stock-based compensation.

Speaker #2: The non-recurring items were primarily legal expenses related to amendments to the credit facilities and corporate structure. Excluding stock-based compensation and non-recurring items, cash G&A was $2.4 million for the quarter, which is approximately the run rate for the year.

Pierre Revol: Non-recurring items were primarily legal expenses related to amendments to credit facilities and corporate structure. Excluding stock-based compensation and non-recurring items, cash G&A was $2.4 million for the quarter, which is approximately the run rate for the year. Interest expense declined by $256,000 quarter-over-quarter to $4.3 million. The decrease was primarily driven by amendments to our credit facilities, which reduced the spread on both the term loan and revolver by 15 basis points. As a result, the borrowing rate on our term loan declined to 4.81%, and our savings from the spread adjustment is over $450,000 on our debt outstanding.

Pierre Revol: Non-recurring items were primarily legal expenses related to amendments to credit facilities and corporate structure. Excluding stock-based compensation and non-recurring items, cash G&A was $2.4 million for the quarter, which is approximately the run rate for the year. Interest expense declined by $256,000 quarter-over-quarter to $4.3 million. The decrease was primarily driven by amendments to our credit facilities, which reduced the spread on both the term loan and revolver by 15 basis points. As a result, the borrowing rate on our term loan declined to 4.81%, and our savings from the spread adjustment is over $450,000 on our debt outstanding.

Speaker #2: Interest expense declined by $256,000 a quarter over quarter to $4.3 million. The decrease was primarily driven by amendments to our credit facilities which reduced the spread on both the term loan and revolver by 15 basis points.

Speaker #2: As a result, the borrowing rate on our term loan declined to 4.81%, and our savings from the spread adjustment is over $450,000 on our debt outstanding.

Speaker #2: We ended the quarter with $115.5 million outstanding on the revolving credit facility, of which $100 million is hedged. Based on the hedges we put in place last September, the effective SOFR rate on the $100 million steps down from 3.86% to 2.97% over the course of 2026, resulting in an average rate of 3.35% for the year.

Pierre Revol: We ended the quarter with $115.5 million outstanding on the revolving credit facility, of which $100 million is hedged. Based on the hedges we put in place last September, the effective SOFR rate of the $100 million steps down from 3.86% to 2.97% over the course of 2026, resulting in an average rate of 3.35% for the year. Total available liquidity was $223 million, inclusive of cash, revolver capacity, and $75 million of undrawn preferred equity. We ended the quarter at 5.6x net debt to annualized adjusted EBITDARE, and our loan to value was 34.5%.

Pierre Revol: We ended the quarter with $115.5 million outstanding on the revolving credit facility, of which $100 million is hedged. Based on the hedges we put in place last September, the effective SOFR rate of the $100 million steps down from 3.86% to 2.97% over the course of 2026, resulting in an average rate of 3.35% for the year. Total available liquidity was $223 million, inclusive of cash, revolver capacity, and $75 million of undrawn preferred equity. We ended the quarter at 5.6x net debt to annualized adjusted EBITDARE, and our loan to value was 34.5%.

Speaker #2: Total available liquidity was $223 million, inclusive of cash, revolver capacity, and $75 million of undrawn preferred equity. We ended the quarter at adjusted EBITDA RE, and our loan to value was $34.5%.

Speaker #2: On February 10th, we drew down $25 million of the convertible preferred equity and expect to draw the remaining $50 million throughout the year to fund our $100 million net acquisition target.

Pierre Revol: On 10 February, we drew down $25 million of the convertible preferred equity and expect to draw the remaining $50 million throughout the year to fund our $100 million net acquisition target. We expect our net debt to adjusted annualized EBITDARE to end the year below 5.5x. AFFO per share for the Q4 and full year achieved the high end of guidance with $0.31 for the quarter and $1.25 for the year. Looking ahead to 2026, we are revising our AFFO per share guidance range upwards to $1.27 to $1.32, representing 4% growth at the midpoint and 6% at the high end.

Pierre Revol: On 10 February, we drew down $25 million of the convertible preferred equity and expect to draw the remaining $50 million throughout the year to fund our $100 million net acquisition target. We expect our net debt to adjusted annualized EBITDARE to end the year below 5.5x. AFFO per share for the Q4 and full year achieved the high end of guidance with $0.31 for the quarter and $1.25 for the year. Looking ahead to 2026, we are revising our AFFO per share guidance range upwards to $1.27 to $1.32, representing 4% growth at the midpoint and 6% at the high end.

Speaker #2: We expect our net debt to adjusted annualized EBITDA RE to end the year below 5.5 times. AFFO per share for the fourth quarter and full year achieved the high end of guidance with 31 cents for the quarter and $1.25 for the year.

Speaker #2: Looking ahead to 2026, we are revising our AFFO per share guidance range upwards to $1.27 to $1.32. Representing 4% growth at the midpoint and 6% at the high end.

Speaker #2: The increase reflects faster-than-expected resolutions of Tri-Color and nine credit issues to date relative to our assumptions, and continued execution of our capital deployment strategy with near-term acquisitions in the mid-7% cap rate range.

Pierre Revol: The increase reflects faster than expected resolutions of Tricolor, the 9 credit issues to date relative to our assumptions, and continued execution of a capital deployment strategy with near-term acquisitions in the mid 7 cap rate range. Our objective is clear: to build a best-in-class net lease REIT differentiated by a truly real estate-first investment strategy. We believe that credits evolve over time, and what drives long-term value is the location, rent basis, and the box. Closing our current gap to NAV starts with performance. We intend to execute on our capital deployment plan, continue delivering strong operating results, and maintain a conservatively levered balance sheet. With that, I'll turn the call back over to the operator to open up for Q&A.

Pierre Revol: The increase reflects faster than expected resolutions of Tricolor, the 9 credit issues to date relative to our assumptions, and continued execution of a capital deployment strategy with near-term acquisitions in the mid 7 cap rate range. Our objective is clear: to build a best-in-class net lease REIT differentiated by a truly real estate-first investment strategy. We believe that credits evolve over time, and what drives long-term value is the location, rent basis, and the box. Closing our current gap to NAV starts with performance. We intend to execute on our capital deployment plan, continue delivering strong operating results, and maintain a conservatively levered balance sheet. With that, I'll turn the call back over to the operator to open up for Q&A.

Speaker #2: Our objective is clear: to build the best-in-class net lease REIT, differentiated by a truly real estate-first investment strategy. We believe that credits evolve over time, and what drives long-term value is our location, rent basis, and the box.

Speaker #2: Closing our current gap to NAV starts with performance. We intend to execute on our capital deployment plan, continue delivering strong operating results, and maintain a conservatively levered balance sheet.

Speaker #2: With that, I'll turn the call back over to the operator to open up for Q&A.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll now begin the question-and-answer session. Should you have a question, please press the star followed by the number one on your touch-tone phone.

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Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll now begin the question and answer session. Should you have a question, please press star followed by the number one on your touch-tone phone. You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press star followed by number two. If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. One moment please, for your first question. Your first question comes from John Kliszewski from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

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Speaker #1: Klichowski from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. My first question is on the AFFO guide PR. Thanks for walking us through the adjustments there.

John Kliszewski: Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. My first question is on the AFFO guide. Pierre, thanks for walking us through the adjustments there. Maybe could you help us understand what gets us to that $1.32 versus that $1.27?

John Klisz: Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. My first question is on the AFFO guide. Pierre, thanks for walking us through the adjustments there. Maybe could you help us understand what gets us to that $1.32 versus that $1.27?

Speaker #3: Maybe could you help us understand what gets us to that $1.32 versus that $1.27?

Speaker #2: Yeah, sure, John. Thanks for the question. It really is a portfolio performance as a component of it in terms of if the portfolio continues to do as well as it's been doing, there's opportunity to go on the high end because our assumptions are they do have some assumptions in terms of what the reserves will be.

Pierre Revol: Yeah, sure, John. Thanks for the question. It really is, portfolio performance is a component of it. In terms of if the portfolio continues to do as well as it's been doing, there's opportunity to go on the high end because they do have some assumptions in terms of what the reserves will be. I think number one is portfolio performance. Two is the timing of acquisitions and dispositions. Assuming that we do more in the front half versus the back half, that impacts it. As we talked last quarter, I said that the seven and a quarter would be the cap rate guidance, but we're still seeing this, you know, mid-sevens right now, so that helps a bit.

Pierre Revol: Yeah, sure, John. Thanks for the question. It really is, portfolio performance is a component of it. In terms of if the portfolio continues to do as well as it's been doing, there's opportunity to go on the high end because they do have some assumptions in terms of what the reserves will be. I think number one is portfolio performance. Two is the timing of acquisitions and dispositions. Assuming that we do more in the front half versus the back half, that impacts it. As we talked last quarter, I said that the seven and a quarter would be the cap rate guidance, but we're still seeing this, you know, mid-sevens right now, so that helps a bit.

Speaker #2: So, I think number one is portfolio performance. Number two is the timing of acquisitions and dispositions. Assuming that we do more in the front half versus the back half, that impacts it.

Speaker #2: As we talked last quarter, I said that the 7.25 would be the cap rate guidance, but we're still seeing it's mid-7s right now, so that helps a bit.

Speaker #2: So it really comes down to portfolio, continuing to execute well, and the timing and cap rate on acquisitions and dispositions.

Pierre Revol: It really comes down to, you know, portfolio continuing to execute well, and the timing and cap rate on acquisitions and dispositions.

Pierre Revol: It really comes down to, you know, portfolio continuing to execute well, and the timing and cap rate on acquisitions and dispositions.

John Kliszewski: Mm-hmm. Got it. One for Steve. I believe in the opening remarks, you made a comment about the implied cap rate of the business trading outside of where you sold a dark Smokey Bones. I hope I said that correctly or I heard that correctly. I guess given the persistent discount to NAV, you know, have you received any outside interest? If so, where is that interest coming in at? There's clearly a disconnect.

John Klisz: Mm-hmm. Got it. One for Steve. I believe in the opening remarks, you made a comment about the implied cap rate of the business trading outside of where you sold a dark Smokey Bones. I hope I said that correctly or I heard that correctly. I guess given the persistent discount to NAV, you know, have you received any outside interest? If so, where is that interest coming in at? There's clearly a disconnect.

Speaker #3: Got it. And then one for Steve, I believe in the opening remarks he made a comment about the implied cap rate of the business trading outside of where you sold a dark smoky bones.

Speaker #3: I hope I said that correctly. I heard that correctly. I guess given the persistent discount to NAV, have you received any outside interest? And if so, where is that interest coming in at?

Speaker #3: Because there's clearly a disconnect.

Speaker #2: Yeah, no, we certainly see that discount, and I think it's pretty obvious. And evident certainly from that one sale and then certainly from the other sales that we made disposing of about $80 million of property and then averaging about $6.79 cap rate.

Stephen Preston: Yeah, no, we certainly see that discount. I think it's pretty obvious and evident, certainly from that one sale. Certainly from the other sales that we made, disposing of about $80 million of property and then averaging about 6.79 cap rates throughout the year. With respect to inbounds, that's been quiet at this point.

Stephen Preston: Yeah, no, we certainly see that discount. I think it's pretty obvious and evident, certainly from that one sale. Certainly from the other sales that we made, disposing of about $80 million of property and then averaging about 6.79 cap rates throughout the year. With respect to inbounds, that's been quiet at this point.

Speaker #2: Throughout the year, with respect to inbounds, that's been quiet at this point.

Speaker #3: I would just add, John, the portfolio and the disclosures, I think, kind of can help people understand that in terms of the discount. I think that people are obviously there's a big market there of people that are looking for portfolios and qualities and it's very hard to replicate what's been created.

Pierre Revol: I would just add, John, like the portfolio and the disclosures, I think, kind of can help people understand that in terms of the discount. Obviously, there's a big market there of people that are looking for portfolios and qualities, and it's very hard to replicate what's been created. I will make a correction. It was a dark Bojangles. It wasn't a Smokey Bones that got sold. When that gets sold at an ACAP, and if you think about, there was a lot of dispositions this year, including, you know, Twin Peaks, that was sub 6, and the median cap rate on dispositions of about, you know, 6.9. It's pretty, the portfolio quality is there.

Pierre Revol: I would just add, John, like the portfolio and the disclosures, I think, kind of can help people understand that in terms of the discount. Obviously, there's a big market there of people that are looking for portfolios and qualities, and it's very hard to replicate what's been created. I will make a correction. It was a dark Bojangles. It wasn't a Smokey Bones that got sold. When that gets sold at an ACAP, and if you think about, there was a lot of dispositions this year, including, you know, Twin Peaks, that was sub 6, and the median cap rate on dispositions of about, you know, 6.9. It's pretty, the portfolio quality is there.

Speaker #3: I will make a correction. It was a dark boat jangles. It wasn't a smoky bones that got sold, but when that gets sold at an A cap and if you think about there was a lot of dispositions this year including a Twin Peaks that was sub-6 and the median cap rate on dispositions of a 6.9.

Speaker #3: It's pretty the portfolio qualities there, I think we just have to execute and I think that will drive the performance to get closer to NAV.

Pierre Revol: I think we just have to execute, and I think that will drive, that'll drive the performance to get closer to NAV. If there was interest, now you can see, you know, through our website, through the disclosures, there's enough information for people to come up with what this company could be worth.

Pierre Revol: I think we just have to execute, and I think that will drive, that'll drive the performance to get closer to NAV. If there was interest, now you can see, you know, through our website, through the disclosures, there's enough information for people to come up with what this company could be worth.

Speaker #3: If there was interest now, you can see through our website, through the disclosures, there's enough information for people to come up with what this company could be worth.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Anthony Paolone from J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Your next question comes from Anthony Pallone from JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Anthony Paolone from J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker #4: Yeah, thanks. Just maybe following up on the last point there around your asset value. As you think about just growing the portfolio over time, you have the prep you could draw down, but how do you think about just incremental capital looking at it as either an AFFO yield versus, say, NAV?

Operator: Yeah, thanks. Just maybe following up on the last point there around your asset value. As you think about just growing the portfolio over time, you have the prep you could draw down. How do you think about just incremental capital, looking at it as either an AFFO yield versus, say, NAV? You end up with two pretty different numbers, in terms of when you would seem to have access to capital creatively.

Anthony Paolone: Yeah, thanks. Just maybe following up on the last point there around your asset value. As you think about just growing the portfolio over time, you have the prep you could draw down. How do you think about just incremental capital, looking at it as either an AFFO yield versus, say, NAV? You end up with two pretty different numbers, in terms of when you would seem to have access to capital creatively.

Speaker #4: Because I think those are—you end up with two pretty different numbers, I think, in terms of when you would seem to have access to capital creatively.

Speaker #3: Yeah, thanks, Tony. It's true. If you think about our NAV and the discount, we're trading roughly at low 8% implied cap rate. And but if you think about the weighted average cost of capital, it has improved meaningfully.

Pierre Revol: Yeah. Thanks, Tony. It's true. Like, if you think about our NAV and the discount, like we're trading, like roughly a, like low 8% implied cap rate. If you think about the weighted average cost of capital, it has improved meaningfully. What's important to note is that for 2026, it's not an issue because we're fully funded with the equity that we put in place. We think that gives us time to just execute on the $17 equity that we got through the preferred. Even if you think about where our stock is today, you know, in the mid-$16s, going to $17, you're talking about an AFFO yield that ranges from, you know, mid-7% to mid-to high 7%.

Pierre Revol: Yeah. Thanks, Tony. It's true. Like, if you think about our NAV and the discount, like we're trading, like roughly a, like low 8% implied cap rate. If you think about the weighted average cost of capital, it has improved meaningfully. What's important to note is that for 2026, it's not an issue because we're fully funded with the equity that we put in place. We think that gives us time to just execute on the $17 equity that we got through the preferred. Even if you think about where our stock is today, you know, in the mid-$16s, going to $17, you're talking about an AFFO yield that ranges from, you know, mid-7% to mid-to high 7%.

Speaker #3: What's important to note is that for 2026, it's not an issue because we're fully funded. With the equity that we put in place. And so we think that that gives us time to just execute on the $17 equity that we got through the preferred.

Speaker #3: But even if you think about where our stock is today, in the mid-16s, going to 17, you're talking about an AFFO yield that ranges from mid-7s to mid-high 7s.

Speaker #3: With debt costs, I think we could probably do debt costs that are 5% or lower if you think about where seven-year term loans might price.

Pierre Revol: With debt costs, I think we could probably do debt costs that are, you know, 5% or lower, if you think about where, you know, 7-year term loans might price. That, that translates to a weighted average cost of capital that is, you know, between 75 to 125 basis points below where we're seeing acquisitions. That does put us in a strike zone to continue to execute. Fortunately, you know, the equity question is solved for this year. It's more about when you think about, you know, what you go into next year, how that translates. I also highlight, I made the comment in my remarks, is that, you know, we are delevering this year. We're only using, you know, $25 million of debt on the $75 million of equity.

Pierre Revol: With debt costs, I think we could probably do debt costs that are, you know, 5% or lower, if you think about where, you know, 7-year term loans might price. That, that translates to a weighted average cost of capital that is, you know, between 75 to 125 basis points below where we're seeing acquisitions. That does put us in a strike zone to continue to execute. Fortunately, you know, the equity question is solved for this year. It's more about when you think about, you know, what you go into next year, how that translates. I also highlight, I made the comment in my remarks, is that, you know, we are delevering this year. We're only using, you know, $25 million of debt on the $75 million of equity.

Speaker #3: And that translates to a weighted average cost of capital that is between 75 to 125 basis points below where we're seeing acquisitions. So, that does put us in a strike zone to continue to execute.

Speaker #3: But fortunately, the equity question is solved for this year. It's more about when you think about what you go into next year, how that translates.

Speaker #3: And I also highlight—I made the comment in my remarks—that we are de-levering this year. We're only using $25 million of debt on the $75 million of equity, so if we end below 5.5 times, we do actually have capacity to grow into 2027 without really needing the market for a bit of time.

Pierre Revol: If we end below 5.5x, we do actually have capacity to grow into 2027 without really needing the market for a bit of time. It is nice that from a weighted average cost of capital and growing AFFO per share, which is what we intend to do, we are well set up to do that, even if we're not quite at the NAV. Now, I'd point to you, if you do get to the NAV or the NAV premium, which you look at the net lease comp set, 98% of the market cap is above NAV. If we get to that point where our cost of capital gets there...

Pierre Revol: If we end below 5.5x, we do actually have capacity to grow into 2027 without really needing the market for a bit of time. It is nice that from a weighted average cost of capital and growing AFFO per share, which is what we intend to do, we are well set up to do that, even if we're not quite at the NAV. Now, I'd point to you, if you do get to the NAV or the NAV premium, which you look at the net lease comp set, 98% of the market cap is above NAV. If we get to that point where our cost of capital gets there...

Speaker #3: But it is nice that, from a weighted average cost of capital, and growing AFFO per share—which is what we intend to do—we are well set up to do that, even if we're not quite at the NAV.

Speaker #3: Now, I'd point to you, if we do get to—I think if you do get to—the NAV or the NAV premium, which, if you look at the net lease comp set, 98% of the market cap is above NAV.

Speaker #3: If we get to that point where we're doing where our cost of capital gets there, just the math of being a smaller company, will allow us to grow faster than any of our peers.

Pierre Revol: just the math of being a smaller company will allow us to grow faster than any of our peers. That's something that I think is an advantage that we will see over time. First we have to get to Property DNA.

Pierre Revol: just the math of being a smaller company will allow us to grow faster than any of our peers. That's something that I think is an advantage that we will see over time. First we have to get to Property DNA.

Speaker #3: And that's something that I think is an advantage that we will see over time. But first, we have to get to the NAV.

Speaker #4: Okay, great. That's a lot of good color. And then, just my second one relates to the deal activity as you look into the market.

Operator: Okay, great. That's a lot of good color. Just my second one relates to the deal activity as you look into the market. You know, how are you prioritizing, like, initial yield versus contractual bumps versus lease length? Like, when I look in the quarter, you had good yield and long lease lengths. The bumps were a little on the lower side. I guess, is there a priority there, or you're just looking at the totality of the transactions?

Anthony Paolone: Okay, great. That's a lot of good color. Just my second one relates to the deal activity as you look into the market. You know, how are you prioritizing, like, initial yield versus contractual bumps versus lease length? Like, when I look in the quarter, you had good yield and long lease lengths. The bumps were a little on the lower side. I guess, is there a priority there, or you're just looking at the totality of the transactions?

Speaker #4: Are you prioritizing initial yield versus contractual bumps versus lease length? When I look in the quarter, you had good yield and long lease lengths.

Speaker #4: The bumps were a little on the lower side. I guess, is there a priority there, or are you just looking at the totality of the transactions?

Speaker #3: Yeah, yeah, generally good question. Certainly, the totality. It's an equation, but certainly for us, we're focusing on the location. And we're focusing on sort of that size of the land tract, and then what's also very important for sure is the market rent.

Stephen Preston: Yeah, yeah, generally, good question. Certainly, the totality, it's an equation, but certainly for us, you know, we're focusing on the location, and we're focusing on sort of that size of the land track. What's also very important for sure is the market rent and making sure that anything that we're acquiring also, you know, has rent that's replaceable. Of course, you know, we look at and we're focusing on the credit and then the term and the escalations as well. With respect to the escalations, I think they came in about 1.2 for the quarter. You know, it just sort of ebbs and flows on when bumps take place.

Stephen Preston: Yeah, yeah, generally, good question. Certainly, the totality, it's an equation, but certainly for us, you know, we're focusing on the location, and we're focusing on sort of that size of the land track. What's also very important for sure is the market rent and making sure that anything that we're acquiring also, you know, has rent that's replaceable. Of course, you know, we look at and we're focusing on the credit and then the term and the escalations as well. With respect to the escalations, I think they came in about 1.2 for the quarter. You know, it just sort of ebbs and flows on when bumps take place.

Speaker #3: And making sure that anything that we're acquiring, also has rent that's replaceable. And then, of course, we look at and we're focusing on the credit and then the term and the escalations as well.

Speaker #3: And with respect to the escalations, I think they came in about 1.2 for the quarter. It just sort of ebbs and flows on when bumps take place.

Speaker #3: Typically, it's you get a 5 or 10 percent bump every or 1 to 2 percent bump every five years. And so it's in line with our 1 to 2 percent overall, which sort of averages about 1.5.

Stephen Preston: Typically, it's, you know, you get, you know, a 5% or 10% bump, or 1% to 2% bump every 5 years. You know, it's in line with, you know, our 1% to 2% overall, which, you know, sort of averages about 1.5.

Stephen Preston: Typically, it's, you know, you get, you know, a 5% or 10% bump, or 1% to 2% bump every 5 years. You know, it's in line with, you know, our 1% to 2% overall, which, you know, sort of averages about 1.5.Yeah, 10% every 5, yeah.

Speaker #3: Yeah, 10% every five. Yeah.

Pierre Revol: Yeah, 10% every 5, yeah.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Ronald Kamdem from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Your next question comes from Ronald Campden from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Ronald Kamdem from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker #5: Hey, just two quick ones I wanted to dig back in on sort of the acquisition pipeline. I think you said mid-7s cap rate, if I remember that correctly.

Ronald Kamdem: Hey, just 2 quick ones. I wanted to dig back in on sort of the acquisition pipeline. I think you said mid-7s cap rate, if I remember that correctly. Maybe could you just talk through, are some of these deals off market? Are there special situations? Really, how large do you think that pipeline can get to the extent that you get the cost of capital? Thanks.

Ronald Kamdem: Hey, just 2 quick ones. I wanted to dig back in on sort of the acquisition pipeline. I think you said mid-7s cap rate, if I remember that correctly. Maybe could you just talk through, are some of these deals off market? Are there special situations? Really, how large do you think that pipeline can get to the extent that you get the cost of capital? Thanks.

Speaker #5: Maybe could you just talk through some of these deals are off-market? Are there special situations? And really, how large do you think that pipeline can get to the extent that you get the cost of capital?

Speaker #5: Thanks.

Speaker #3: Yeah, no, good question. Certainly, the market is fluid. We have acquired through we expect to acquire through Q1 sort of in that 7.5% range.

Stephen Preston: Yeah, no, good question. You know, certainly the market is fluid. We have, you know, acquired, through we expect to acquire through Q1, sort of in that 7.5% range. You know, we see that, you know, cap rates could come in, you know, a little bit into Q2, but we are a circumstantial buyer. We have seen in the marketplace a little bit of increased institutional interest, just generally in net lease, which has kind of set the tone for the marketplace. Then sort of in the market that we play in, you know, leverage is a little bit easier now for other buyers to obtain, so there's just a tiny bit more competition. But, you know, we play in this very large, very liquid market.

Stephen Preston: Yeah, no, good question. You know, certainly the market is fluid. We have, you know, acquired, through we expect to acquire through Q1, sort of in that 7.5% range. You know, we see that, you know, cap rates could come in, you know, a little bit into Q2, but we are a circumstantial buyer. We have seen in the marketplace a little bit of increased institutional interest, just generally in net lease, which has kind of set the tone for the marketplace. Then sort of in the market that we play in, you know, leverage is a little bit easier now for other buyers to obtain, so there's just a tiny bit more competition. But, you know, we play in this very large, very liquid market.

Speaker #3: We see that cap rates could come in a little bit into Q2. But we are a circumstantial buyer. We have seen in the marketplace a little bit of increased institutional interest just generally in net lease.

Speaker #3: Which is kind of setting the tone for the marketplace. And then, sort of in the market that we play in, leverage is a little bit easier now for other buyers to obtain.

Speaker #3: So there's just a tiny bit more competition. But we play in this very large very liquid market. There is a lot of opportunity for us to choose again, we're not competing with institutions or other REITs really due to property size.

Stephen Preston: There is a lot of opportunity for us to choose. You know, again, we're not competing with institutions or, you know, other REITs really due to property size. We have, you know, a very strong pipeline that can build. Remember, we bought about $100 million of acquisitions during Q4, so we can sort of expand and build on that pipeline. Then we have these competitive advantages that we've demonstrated, which is, you know, we get to close quickly and then see outside returns because of that. As a result, you know, there are circumstances that allow us to achieve higher cap rates, especially, you know, with respect to, like, the 7 Brew as an example, buying an elevated cap rate because there were issues with an acquisition that others just can't fix.

Stephen Preston: There is a lot of opportunity for us to choose. You know, again, we're not competing with institutions or, you know, other REITs really due to property size. We have, you know, a very strong pipeline that can build. Remember, we bought about $100 million of acquisitions during Q4, so we can sort of expand and build on that pipeline. Then we have these competitive advantages that we've demonstrated, which is, you know, we get to close quickly and then see outside returns because of that. As a result, you know, there are circumstances that allow us to achieve higher cap rates, especially, you know, with respect to, like, the 7 Brew as an example, buying an elevated cap rate because there were issues with an acquisition that others just can't fix.

Speaker #3: And we have a very strong pipeline that can build. Remember, we bought about $100 million of acquisitions during Q4. So we can sort of expand and build on that pipeline.

Speaker #3: And then we have these competitive advantages that we've demonstrated which is we get to close quickly and then see outside returns because of that.

Speaker #3: So, as a result, there are circumstances that allow us to achieve higher cap rates, especially with respect to the 7 Brew, as an example.

Speaker #3: Buying an elevated cap rate because there were issues with an acquisition that others just can't fix. And that's another very big strength for us is that we can come in and makes us this buyer of choice in the marketplace where we close quickly all cash without sort of financing contingencies.

Stephen Preston: That's another very big strength for us, is that we can come in and makes us this buyer of choice in the marketplace, where we close quickly all cash without sort of financing contingencies, at the same time, we can, you know, fix problems.

Stephen Preston: That's another very big strength for us, is that we can come in and makes us this buyer of choice in the marketplace, where we close quickly all cash without sort of financing contingencies, at the same time, we can, you know, fix problems.

Speaker #3: And then at the same time, we can fix problems.

Speaker #2: I would go on one more point—there is also that a lot of these transactions that we're targeting, if they're below $5 million, $6 million, it's very fragmented in that market where we can play, and there's a lot of opportunities within that market.

Pierre Revol: I would say, Ronald, one more point there, is also that a lot of this, the transactions that we're, that we're targeting, if they're below $5 million, $6 million, it's very fragmented in that market where we can, where we can play. There's a lot of opportunities within that market. When you get to larger deal sizes, that's where you see, you know, more people step in. We are dealing with a highly fragmented market, where if you're, if you're viewed as a buyer that can solve problems and find solutions, you get a lot of opportunities, and that's something that's helpful for the types of assets that we target.

Pierre Revol: I would say, Ronald, one more point there, is also that a lot of this, the transactions that we're, that we're targeting, if they're below $5 million, $6 million, it's very fragmented in that market where we can, where we can play. There's a lot of opportunities within that market. When you get to larger deal sizes, that's where you see, you know, more people step in. We are dealing with a highly fragmented market, where if you're, if you're viewed as a buyer that can solve problems and find solutions, you get a lot of opportunities, and that's something that's helpful for the types of assets that we target.

Speaker #2: When you get to larger deal sizes, that's where you see more people step in. But we are dealing with a highly fragmented market, where if you're viewed as a buyer that can solve problems and find solutions, you get a lot of opportunities.

Speaker #2: And that's something that's helpful for the types of assets that we target.

Speaker #3: Yeah, we've got just to add on that deep brokerage relationships and we see a lot of deals just being that repeat buyer that performs.

Stephen Preston: Yeah, we've got, you know, just to add on that, deep brokerage relationships, and we see a lot of deals just being that repeat buyer that performs and closes quickly.

Stephen Preston: Yeah, we've got, you know, just to add on that, deep brokerage relationships, and we see a lot of deals just being that repeat buyer that performs and closes quickly.

Speaker #3: And closes quickly.

Ronald Kamdem: That's really helpful. My second question is, you know, we appreciate the disclosures on the traffic count, population, sort of Placer.ai scores. As you're sort of putting it all together, I think you talked about 50 basis points of bad debt for this year. Is the thinking that through sort of the asset management functions that you've done, like that's sort of the right run rate going forward as you're thinking about the portfolio and the watch list? Thanks.

Ronald Kamdem: That's really helpful. My second question is, you know, we appreciate the disclosures on the traffic count, population, sort of Placer.ai scores. As you're sort of putting it all together, I think you talked about 50 basis points of bad debt for this year. Is the thinking that through sort of the asset management functions that you've done, like that's sort of the right run rate going forward as you're thinking about the portfolio and the watch list? Thanks.

Speaker #5: That's really helpful. My second question is, we appreciate the disclosures on the traffic count, population, sort of place, or AI scores. As you're sort of putting it all together, I think you talked about 50 basis points of bad debt for this year.

Speaker #5: Is the thinking that through sort of the asset management functions that you've done, that's sort of the right run rate going forward as you're thinking about the portfolio and the watchlist?

Speaker #5: Thanks.

Speaker #3: Yeah, yeah, I would say so. The portfolio is performing pretty well. 50 basis points is pretty in line with what we've seen historically. And as we've said, as you heard earlier this recovery on the current two, the smoky bones.

Stephen Preston: Yeah. I would say so. The portfolio is performing pretty well. You know, 50 basis points is pretty in line with what we've seen historically. You know, as we've said, as you know, heard earlier this morning, you know, we're going to be expecting well over a 100% recovery on the current to the Smokey Bones and then certainly the Twin Peaks. Yeah, I think that's a good run rate. Also, you know, sort of with respect to the watch list, you know, that is pretty minimal right now, and I don't really see any material changes or adds to the watch list. It seems pretty healthy, pretty quiet.

Stephen Preston: Yeah. I would say so. The portfolio is performing pretty well. You know, 50 basis points is pretty in line with what we've seen historically. You know, as we've said, as you know, heard earlier this morning, you know, we're going to be expecting well over a 100% recovery on the current to the Smokey Bones and then certainly the Twin Peaks. Yeah, I think that's a good run rate. Also, you know, sort of with respect to the watch list, you know, that is pretty minimal right now, and I don't really see any material changes or adds to the watch list. It seems pretty healthy, pretty quiet.

Speaker #3: And then certainly the Twin Peaks, so yeah, I think that's a good run rate. Also, sort of with respect to the watchlist, that is pretty minimal right now.

Speaker #3: And I don't really see any material changes or adds to the watchlist. It seems pretty healthy. Pretty quiet. Obviously, you've got a smoky bones.

Stephen Preston: Obviously, you've got a Smokey Bones, you've got a small GoHealth, there's a couple of Sleep Numbers on there, and maybe a couple of gas stations. You know, all in all, it feels pretty good and pretty small. I know there's some tenants that there's a little bit of noise in the marketplace on today. You know, for example, there's Wendy's, they're in the news. We have five Wendy's, and we've got sales on most of them. We've already proactively replacing two of them, so that would take us down to three. Our Wendy's have average rent of about $120,000, and so we feel, you know, that those are, those are pretty good. Again, the sales volumes show that they're performing well.

Stephen Preston: Obviously, you've got a Smokey Bones, you've got a small GoHealth, there's a couple of Sleep Numbers on there, and maybe a couple of gas stations. You know, all in all, it feels pretty good and pretty small. I know there's some tenants that there's a little bit of noise in the marketplace on today. You know, for example, there's Wendy's, they're in the news. We have five Wendy's, and we've got sales on most of them. We've already proactively replacing two of them, so that would take us down to three. Our Wendy's have average rent of about $120,000, and so we feel, you know, that those are, those are pretty good. Again, the sales volumes show that they're performing well.

Speaker #3: We've got a small GoHealth. There's a couple of Sleep Numbers on there, and maybe a couple of gas stations.

Speaker #1: But you know, all in all, it feels pretty good and pretty small. I know there's some tenants, that there's a little bit of noise in the marketplace on today.

Speaker #1: You know , for example , there's Wendy's , there's there in the news . We have five Wendy's and we've got sales on most of them .

Speaker #1: We've already proactively replacing two of them . So that would take us down to three . Our Wendy's have average rent of about 120,000 .

Speaker #1: And so we feel you know that those are those are pretty good . And the sales volumes show that they're performing well . You know , just kind of another tenant that's been in the space and people have been talking about is , you know , advanced auto .

Stephen Preston: They're just kind of another tenant that's been in the space, and people have been talking about is, you know, Advance Auto. We have 7 of those, represents about 1.3, 1.4% of ABR. We were proactive with that group as well, extended several of ours into the 10-year mark. Our average remaining walls on our remaining is about 8 years. Again, we've only got an average rent of $120,000, $122,000 across all of our Advance. You know, we don't wanna take a look at selling those at any discount, and we've got great basis and great markets. If, you know, any one of those comes back to us, we've got the team in place, we've got the experience in place, we've got the expertise in place.

Stephen Preston: They're just kind of another tenant that's been in the space, and people have been talking about is, you know, Advance Auto. We have 7 of those, represents about 1.3, 1.4% of ABR. We were proactive with that group as well, extended several of ours into the 10-year mark. Our average remaining walls on our remaining is about 8 years. Again, we've only got an average rent of $120,000, $122,000 across all of our Advance. You know, we don't wanna take a look at selling those at any discount, and we've got great basis and great markets. If, you know, any one of those comes back to us, we've got the team in place, we've got the experience in place, we've got the expertise in place.

Speaker #1: We have seven of those represents about 1.3 , 1.4% of ABR . We were proactive with that group as well . Extended several of ours into the ten year mark .

Speaker #1: Our average remaining Walt on our remaining is about eight years . And again , we've only got an average rent of 120 122,000 across all of our advanced .

Speaker #1: So , you know , we don't want to take a look at selling those at any discount . And we've got great basis and great markets .

Speaker #1: And if any one of those comes back to us , we've got the team in place . We've got the experience in place , we've got the expertise in place , we've demonstrated that already that we can , you know , release and create value for , for , for any problem that comes our way .

Stephen Preston: We've demonstrated that already, that we can, you know, re-lease and create value for any problem that comes our way, onesie, twosies, or whatever it may be.

Stephen Preston: We've demonstrated that already, that we can, you know, re-lease and create value for any problem that comes our way, onesie, twosies, or whatever it may be.

Speaker #1: Once you choose us or whatever it may be

Speaker #2: Thank you. Your next question is from Yana Galen from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Jana Galan, from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Jana Galan, from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Speaker #3: Morning. This is Dan Byun on for Yana. I was wondering if you provide any color expectations around non-reimbursed property and operating cash for the year.

Daniel Ginn: Morning, this is Daniel Ginn on for Jana. I was wondering if you could provide any color or expectations around non-reimbursed property and operating expenses and cash G&A for the year? I know you guys used a guide for that.

Daniel Gunning: Morning, this is Daniel Ginn on for Jana. I was wondering if you could provide any color or expectations around non-reimbursed property and operating expenses and cash G&A for the year? I know you guys used a guide for that.

Speaker #3: I know you guys used to guide for that .

Speaker #4: Yes . So that was part of the remarks . We think it came a little bit elevated with the 96% margin . There were some taxes that we took related to to vacancies earlier in 2025 .

Pierre Revol: Yeah. That was part of the remarks. We think it came in a little bit elevated with a 96% margin. There were some taxes that we took related to vacancies earlier in 2025. We think that number comes down. We do believe that the NOI margin is gonna increase about 100 basis points. If you run that through, it's like $450,000, $500,000 on a quarterly basis in terms of how you should think about that. If the portfolio continues to do well, it's a big focus area and adds value, but I think that should come in.

Pierre Revol: Yeah. That was part of the remarks. We think it came in a little bit elevated with a 96% margin. There were some taxes that we took related to vacancies earlier in 2025. We think that number comes down. We do believe that the NOI margin is gonna increase about 100 basis points. If you run that through, it's like $450,000, $500,000 on a quarterly basis in terms of how you should think about that. If the portfolio continues to do well, it's a big focus area and adds value, but I think that should come in.

Speaker #4: We think that that number comes down . And so we do believe that the that the NOI margin is going to increase about 100 basis points .

Speaker #4: If you run that through , it's like 450 , 500,000 on a quarterly basis in terms of how you should think about that .

Speaker #4: And as the portfolio continues to do well, it's a big focus area and adds value. But I think that that should, that should come in—

Speaker #3: Got it . Thank you . And then for my follow up , could you talk about maybe the potential to do more preferred convertible capital raising in the future

Daniel Ginn: Got it. Thank you. For my follow-up, could you talk about maybe the potential to do more preferred convertible capital raising in the future?

Daniel Gunning: Got it. Thank you. For my follow-up, could you talk about maybe the potential to do more preferred convertible capital raising in the future?

Speaker #4: So what's interesting about the preferred equity has been it's been hugely successful in a lot of there's been a lot of interest and inbounds to do more in people , people are curious about that .

Pierre Revol: What's interesting about the preferred equity, it's been hugely successful, and a lot of there's been a lot of interest in inbounds to do more, and people were curious about that. I think that right now, our mandate is to deploy it, do well, and I think that the alignment with Paolone has been helpful, and we will continue to execute on the plan. Our plan right now is to pursue that path. It's an option if we wanted it. The conversion price would not be a 30% premium at a time, now it's, you know, under 10% premium. We're pretty close to what it is.

Pierre Revol: What's interesting about the preferred equity, it's been hugely successful, and a lot of there's been a lot of interest in inbounds to do more, and people were curious about that. I think that right now, our mandate is to deploy it, do well, and I think that the alignment with Paolone has been helpful, and we will continue to execute on the plan. Our plan right now is to pursue that path. It's an option if we wanted it. The conversion price would not be a 30% premium at a time, now it's, you know, under 10% premium. We're pretty close to what it is.

Speaker #4: I think that right now our mandate is to deploy it, do well. And I think that the alignment with Miwon has been helpful, and we will continue to execute on the plan.

Speaker #4: Our plan right now is to pursue that path . It's an option . If we wanted it , it would not be the conversion price would not be a third .

Speaker #4: It was a 30% premium at a time . Now it's , you know , under 10% premium . So we're pretty we're pretty close to what it is .

Speaker #4: We we plan to probably just go back to more traditional funding going forward . Assuming that our stock price improves as as we think it will

Pierre Revol: We plan to probably just go back to more traditional funding going forward, assuming that our stock price improves as we think it will.

Pierre Revol: We plan to probably just go back to more traditional funding going forward, assuming that our stock price improves as we think it will.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Daniel Guglielmo, from Capital One Securities. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. Your next question comes from Daniel Guglielmo, from Capital One Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Thank you . Your next question comes from Daniel Guglielmo from Capital One Securities . Please go ahead

Speaker #5: Hi , everyone . Thank you for taking my questions in the past . I think you all had mentioned that the elevated renewals over the next few years could be a potential benefit with current rents below market , you probably have a good line of sight into the 2026 renewals .

Daniel Guglielmo: Hi, everyone. Thank you for taking my questions. In the past, I think you all had mentioned that the elevated renewals over the next few years could be a potential benefit with current rents below market. You probably have a good line of sight into the 2026 renewals. Are you seeing kind of a rent catch-up benefit with some of these older vintage leases?

Daniel Guglielmo: Hi, everyone. Thank you for taking my questions. In the past, I think you all had mentioned that the elevated renewals over the next few years could be a potential benefit with current rents below market. You probably have a good line of sight into the 2026 renewals. Are you seeing kind of a rent catch-up benefit with some of these older vintage leases?

Speaker #5: So are you seeing kind of a rent catch up benefit with some of these older vintage leases

Speaker #1: Yeah , good question . The the short answer to that is yes . What I'll say is that I think I think we all know this , but but sort of continue to hit it home that we've got extremely good quality real estate .

Stephen Preston: Yeah. Good question. The short answer to that is yes. You know, what I'll say is that, I think we all know this, but sort of continue to hit it home, that we've got, you know, extremely good quality real estate. It's very desirable, it's fungible, ultimately, the portfolio is also exceptionally diversified, which, you know, certainly is helpful. You know, from a, from a data standpoint, pure data standpoint, you know, which gets to your point, since 2016, we have had 53 lease expirations. We've had 44 renewing to the same tenant and 3 renewing to a new tenant. That recovery rate has been about a little over 105%, that is an approximately 90% renewal rate.

Stephen Preston: Yeah. Good question. The short answer to that is yes. You know, what I'll say is that, I think we all know this, but sort of continue to hit it home, that we've got, you know, extremely good quality real estate. It's very desirable, it's fungible, ultimately, the portfolio is also exceptionally diversified, which, you know, certainly is helpful. You know, from a, from a data standpoint, pure data standpoint, you know, which gets to your point, since 2016, we have had 53 lease expirations. We've had 44 renewing to the same tenant and 3 renewing to a new tenant. That recovery rate has been about a little over 105%, that is an approximately 90% renewal rate.

Speaker #1: It's very desirable . It's fungible . And then ultimately the portfolio is also exceptionally diversified , which , you know , certainly is helpful .

Speaker #1: You know , from a from a data standpoint , pure data standpoint , you know , which gets to your point . Since 2016 , we have had 53 lease expirations .

Speaker #1: We've had 44 renewing to the same tenant and three renewing to a new tenant . That recovery rate has been about a little over 105% .

Speaker #1: And so that in an approximately 90% renewal rate . So we do expect that , you know , with with any of these leases coming off that , you know , we'll have those similar historical recoveries , you know , for 26 and 27 .

Stephen Preston: We do expect that, you know, with any of these leases coming off, that, you know, we'll have those similar historical recoveries, you know, for 2026 and 2027. I'd also like to point out too, that, you know, the leases that are coming out in 2026 and 2027, you've got some of the top Placer scores. I think we're like about 25 to 30% of top Placer scores for those tenants coming up.

Stephen Preston: We do expect that, you know, with any of these leases coming off, that, you know, we'll have those similar historical recoveries, you know, for 2026 and 2027. I'd also like to point out too, that, you know, the leases that are coming out in 2026 and 2027, you've got some of the top Placer scores. I think we're like about 25 to 30% of top Placer scores for those tenants coming up.

Speaker #1: And I'd also like to point out , too , that , the leases that are coming out in 26 and 27 , you've got some of the top placer scores .

Speaker #1: So I think we're like about 25 to 30% of of top placer scores for those , those tenants coming up .

Speaker #4: And I would just add to that point , it's a great point . But one one , one thing to point out is that as we spend more time working on properties and release tenants .

Pierre Revol: I would just add to that point. It's a great point, but one thing to point out is that as we spend more time working on properties and we lease re-tenanting. If you think about what's going on with Twin Peaks and getting a 92% rent increase, that's going to show up later this year. As you work vacant properties and you re-tenant them, new rents that are coming in higher is a benefit that is on top of the normal course expiration. That's a little bit unique within the net lease space. A lot of net lease suites just sell properties when they go vacant. By doing this approach, you are creating some tailwinds, as we re-tenant those, and they come on next year.

Pierre Revol: I would just add to that point. It's a great point, but one thing to point out is that as we spend more time working on properties and we lease re-tenanting. If you think about what's going on with Twin Peaks and getting a 92% rent increase, that's going to show up later this year. As you work vacant properties and you re-tenant them, new rents that are coming in higher is a benefit that is on top of the normal course expiration. That's a little bit unique within the net lease space. A lot of net lease suites just sell properties when they go vacant. By doing this approach, you are creating some tailwinds, as we re-tenant those, and they come on next year.

Speaker #4: So if you think about what's going on with Twin Peaks and getting a 92% rent increase , that's going to show up later this year , there's as you work vacant properties and you retenant them new rents that are coming in higher is a benefit that that is on top of the normal , normal , normal course expiration .

Speaker #4: That's a little bit unique within the net lease space . A lot of a lot of net lease rates just sell properties when they go vacant .

Speaker #4: By doing this approach, you are creating some tailwinds as we re-tenant those, and they come on next year.

Speaker #5: Great . Yeah . No I appreciate that . That color . And yeah , I guess a testament to the quality properties . Just as a follow up at REIT World around US consumer health , I think you had mentioned potential for less dollars for older concepts .

Daniel Guglielmo: Great. Yeah, no, I appreciate that color, and it's a, yes, I guess, a testament to the quality properties. Just as a follow-up, at REITworld, around kind of US consumer health, I think you had mentioned potential for less dollars for older concepts. Have you kind of seen that continue into 2026, or has it generally been healthier than you expected?

Daniel Guglielmo: Great. Yeah, no, I appreciate that color, and it's a, yes, I guess, a testament to the quality properties. Just as a follow-up, at REITworld, around kind of US consumer health, I think you had mentioned potential for less dollars for older concepts. Have you kind of seen that continue into 2026, or has it generally been healthier than you expected?

Speaker #5: Have you kind of seen that continue into 2026 , or has it generally been healthier than you expected

Speaker #4: I'm sorry . Can you I'm not sure . I totally follow the question . So are you saying that the concept concerns on certain concepts ?

Stephen Preston: I'm sorry, I'm not sure I totally followed the question. Are you saying that concept concerns on certain concepts? Is that the question?

Stephen Preston: I'm sorry, I'm not sure I totally followed the question. Are you saying that concept concerns on certain concepts? Is that the question?

Speaker #4: That is , that the question ?

Speaker #5: Yeah , I just us consumer health , I think just overall kind of less dollars from US consumers . going to older concept .

Daniel Guglielmo: Yeah, I just US consumer health. I think, just overall kind of less dollars from US consumers.

Daniel Guglielmo: Yeah, I just US consumer health. I think, just overall kind of less dollars from US consumers.

Stephen Preston: Oh!

Stephen Preston: Oh!

Daniel Guglielmo: going to the larger concept.

Daniel Guglielmo: going to the larger concept.

Speaker #1: Yeah . Gotcha . Yeah . No , listen , I think I think we see that , you know , throughout the space , unfortunately , you know , we certainly got a strong stock market and but you do see the consumer that is struggling a little bit certainly with with inflation .

Stephen Preston: Yeah, I got it. Yeah. No, listen, I think that, I think we see that, you know, throughout the space, unfortunately. You know, we've certainly got a strong stock market, but you do see the consumer that is struggling a little bit, certainly with inflation. We wanna stick to those concepts. You know, we certainly like the essential, we like the service tenants. Again, I'll just highlight that, you know, we're focusing on, you know, great real estate, replaceable rents. The concepts that we have now, you can see all of our concepts throughout the entire portfolio. These are known, you know, strong national, regional brands that apply to a real diverse demographic.

Stephen Preston: Yeah, I got it. Yeah. No, listen, I think that, I think we see that, you know, throughout the space, unfortunately. You know, we've certainly got a strong stock market, but you do see the consumer that is struggling a little bit, certainly with inflation. We wanna stick to those concepts. You know, we certainly like the essential, we like the service tenants. Again, I'll just highlight that, you know, we're focusing on, you know, great real estate, replaceable rents. The concepts that we have now, you can see all of our concepts throughout the entire portfolio. These are known, you know, strong national, regional brands that apply to a real diverse demographic.

Speaker #1: And so we want to stick to those concepts . You know we certainly like the essential . We like the service tenants . And again I'll just highlight that , you know we're we're focusing on you know great real estate replaceable rents and the concepts that we have now .

Speaker #1: You can see all of our concepts throughout the entire portfolio . These are these are known , you know , strong national , regional brands and that apply to a real diverse demographic .

Speaker #4: And I point out that even in terms of the dispositions , if you think about which industries have moved .

Pierre Revol: I'd point out that even in terms of the dispositions, if you think about which industries have...

Pierre Revol: I'd point out that even in terms of the dispositions, if you think about which industries have...

Speaker #2: If you wish to ask your question, please press star one.

Operator: Do we have your first question? Please first go on.

Operator: Do we have your first question? Please first go on.

Speaker #4: Sorry , one , one thing just to add on that one question was that that we've actually reduced our casual dining quite a bit this year .

Stephen Preston: Sorry. One other thing, just to add on that one question, was that we've actually reduced our casual dining quite a bit this year. We still like certain of our casual dining concepts, like Texas Roadhouse is doing great. We have a good percentage there. If you think about where we were, you know, beginning of last year versus today, that also has come down a little bit, but our-

Stephen Preston: Sorry. One other thing, just to add on that one question, was that we've actually reduced our casual dining quite a bit this year. We still like certain of our casual dining concepts, like Texas Roadhouse is doing great. We have a good percentage there. If you think about where we were, you know, beginning of last year versus today, that also has come down a little bit, but our-.

Speaker #4: We still , like certain casual dining concepts like Texas Roadhouse is doing great . We have we have a good percentage there . But if you think about where we were in the beginning of last year versus today , that also has come down a little bit .

Speaker #2: But .

Speaker #4: Our .

Speaker #2: Next question comes

Operator: Your next question from.

Operator: Your next question from.

Stephen Preston: Uh,

Stephen Preston: Uh,

Speaker #1: Oh , sorry . Yeah , yeah .

Operator: I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah.

Pierre Revol: I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker #4: Go ahead . Operator .

Stephen Preston: Go ahead, operator.

Stephen Preston: Go ahead, operator.

Speaker #2: Okay . Your next question comes from Matthew Edner from Jones Trading . Please go ahead .

Operator: Okay. Your next question come from Matthew Erdner, from Jones Trading. Please go ahead.

Operator: Okay. Your next question come from Matthew Erdner, from Jones Trading. Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: Thanks for taking the question . You know , you mentioned that , you know , most of the optimization of the portfolio is kind of occurred throughout 2025 .

Matthew Erdner: Thanks for taking the question. You know, you mentioned that, you know, most of the optimization of the portfolio has kind of occurred throughout 2025. You know, what are you guys thinking from a gross, you know, net investment, net disposition level, or I guess gross for both?

Matthew Erdner: Thanks for taking the question. You know, you mentioned that, you know, most of the optimization of the portfolio has kind of occurred throughout 2025. You know, what are you guys thinking from a gross, you know, net investment, net disposition level, or I guess gross for both?

Speaker #6: What are you guys thinking from a gross , you net investment net disposition level I guess gross for both .

Speaker #1: Yeah . You know , coming into 26 . Yeah . You're right . In 25 we sold off about $80 million . Optimize that portfolio .

Stephen Preston: Yeah. You know, coming into 2026, yeah, you're right. In 2025, we sold off about $80 million, optimized that portfolio. I think certainly it goes without saying that we were certainly not selling off our best assets. We were selling assets that, you know, we're strategically selling concepts that we thought that could come under pressure, maybe less optimal concepts, they had lower vaults possibly, or just concepts we wanted to reduce exposure to. You know, we've done a lot of that optimization throughout the year. I would expect that, you know, we were doing about $80, you know, run rate in the $30 to $40 million dollar of disposition, continued to prune that portfolio coming into 2026.

Stephen Preston: Yeah. You know, coming into 2026, yeah, you're right. In 2025, we sold off about $80 million, optimized that portfolio. I think certainly it goes without saying that we were certainly not selling off our best assets. We were selling assets that, you know, we're strategically selling concepts that we thought that could come under pressure, maybe less optimal concepts, they had lower vaults possibly, or just concepts we wanted to reduce exposure to. You know, we've done a lot of that optimization throughout the year. I would expect that, you know, we were doing about $80, you know, run rate in the $30 to 40 million dollar of disposition, continued to prune that portfolio coming into 2026.

Speaker #1: I think certainly it goes without saying that we were we were certainly not selling off our our best assets . You were selling assets that , you know , were strategically selling concepts that we thought that could come under pressure , maybe less optimal concepts .

Speaker #1: They had lower wealth , possibly , or just concepts we wanted to reduce exposure to . And , you know , we've we've done a lot of that optimization throughout the year .

Speaker #1: So I would expect that , you know , we're if we were doing about 80 , you know , run rate in the 30 to $40 million of disposition .

Speaker #1: Continue to prune that portfolio coming into to 26 . And again , I think , you know , hopefully we'll expect that that similar cap rate .

Stephen Preston: Again, I think, you know, hopefully we'll expect that similar cap rate, but those asset sales throughout 25 were in that upper 6.79, 6.8 cap rate, median about 6.9, you know, against, you know, where we're trading today in the, you know, low 8.1. I think it's a pretty good proof in the pudding demonstration of the dislocation, too, of the marketplace. You know, we're not selling any of our Raising Cane's, we're not selling our Walmarts, we're not selling our Chipotles, our Lowe's, et cetera. Those are sitting at much, much, much lower cap rates available in the portfolio.

Stephen Preston: Again, I think, you know, hopefully we'll expect that similar cap rate, but those asset sales throughout 25 were in that upper 6.79, 6.8 cap rate, median about 6.9, you know, against, you know, where we're trading today in the, you know, low 8.1. I think it's a pretty good proof in the pudding demonstration of the dislocation, too, of the marketplace. You know, we're not selling any of our Raising Cane's, we're not selling our Walmarts, we're not selling our Chipotles, our Lowe's, et cetera. Those are sitting at much, much, much lower cap rates available in the portfolio.

Speaker #1: But those those asset sales throughout 25 were in that upper six , 6.79 , 6.8 cap rate , median about six nine . You know against you know , where we're trading today .

Speaker #1: And you know low eights eight one . So I think it's a pretty good proof in the pudding demonstration of the dislocation to of of the marketplace .

Speaker #1: You know , we're not selling any of our Raising Cane's . We're not selling our Walmarts . We're selling our Chipotle's our Lowe's etc.

Speaker #1: . So , you know , those are sitting at at much , much , much lower cap rates available . You in the portfolio .

Speaker #6: Right ? Right . That makes sense . And that's helpful . And then I think you mentioned it a little earlier . You know , if the capital was deployed kind of towards the early half of the year , you know , that'll lead to the high end of guidance , you know , what are you guys expecting in terms of pace of deployment .

Matthew Erdner: Right. Right, that makes sense, and that's helpful. I think you mentioned it a little earlier, you know, if the capital was deployed kind of towards the early half of the year, you know, that only did a high end of guidance. You know, what are you guys expecting in terms of pace of deployment? Obviously, the $75 million is gonna be kind of spread out across the year, but, you know, I guess just what does Q1 kind of look like to project the first half?

Matthew Erdner: Right. Right, that makes sense, and that's helpful. I think you mentioned it a little earlier, you know, if the capital was deployed kind of towards the early half of the year, you know, that only did a high end of guidance. You know, what are you guys expecting in terms of pace of deployment? Obviously, the $75 million is gonna be kind of spread out across the year, but, you know, I guess just what does Q1 kind of look like to project the first half?

Speaker #6: Obviously the the $75 million is going to be kind of spread out across the year . But you know , I guess just what is the first quarter kind of look like to project the first half .

Speaker #4: So the first quarter is looking like pretty much in line , like we have it's going to be 25 million net maybe . I think it's closer to 35 million acquisitions with some dispositions behind it .

Pierre Revol: The Q1 is looking like pretty much in line. Like it's gonna be $25 million net, maybe I think it's closer to $35 million of acquisitions with some dispositions behind it. The Q2, we're building it right now. My expectation, in terms of what we're forecasting, is it'll be close to $25 million net as well. There are a few deals that we're looking at that could bump it either way. That is a driver, but there's a lot of different drivers in terms of just the portfolio acting well, that will help us, you know, achieve the high end of that number.

Pierre Revol: The Q1 is looking like pretty much in line. Like it's gonna be $25 million net, maybe I think it's closer to $35 million of acquisitions with some dispositions behind it. The Q2, we're building it right now. My expectation, in terms of what we're forecasting, is it'll be close to $25 million net as well. There are a few deals that we're looking at that could bump it either way. That is a driver, but there's a lot of different drivers in terms of just the portfolio acting well, that will help us, you know, achieve the high end of that number.

Speaker #4: And the second quarter we're building it right now . My expectation in terms of what we're forecasting is , will be close to 25 million net as well , but there are a few deals that we're looking at that could bump it either way .

Speaker #4: That is that is a driver . But there's a lot of different drivers in terms of in terms of just the portfolio acting well , that will help us , will help us .

Speaker #4: Achieve the high end of that number .

Speaker #6: Got it. Awesome. Thank you, guys.

Matthew Erdner: Got it. Awesome. Thank you, guys.

Matthew Erdner: Got it. Awesome. Thank you, guys.

Speaker #1: Thank you

Stephen Preston: Yep. Thank you.

Stephen Preston: Yep. Thank you.

Speaker #2: There are no further questions at this time . I will now turn the call over to Steve Preston for closing remarks . Please go ahead

Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Steve Preston for closing remarks. Please go ahead.

Operator: There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to Steve Preston for closing remarks. Please go ahead.

Speaker #1: Great . Yeah . Thank you everyone . Please , please be safe . Please be healthy . And we look forward to seeing you at the city event in early March .

Stephen Preston: Great. Yeah, thank you, everyone. Please, please be safe, please be healthy, and we look forward to seeing you at the city event in early March. Until then, thanks. Bye.

Stephen Preston: Great. Yeah, thank you, everyone. Please, please be safe, please be healthy, and we look forward to seeing you at the city event in early March. Until then, thanks. Bye.

Speaker #1: Until then , thanks . Bye

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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