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Q1 2026 New Jersey Resources Corp Earnings Call
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Adam Pryor: Thank you. Welcome to New Jersey Resources Fiscal 2025 fourth quarter and year-end conference call and webcast. I am joined here today by Steve Westhoven, our President and CEO, Roberto Bel, our Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, as well as other members of our senior management team. Certain statements in today's call contain estimates and other forward-looking statements within the meaning of the securities laws. We wish to caution listeners of this call that the current expectations, assumptions, and belief forming the basis of our forward-looking statements include many factors that are beyond our ability to control or estimate precisely. This could cause results to materially differ from our expectations, as found on slide 2.
Adam Prior: Thank you. Welcome to New Jersey Resources Fiscal 2025 fourth quarter and year-end conference call and webcast. I am joined here today by Steve Westhoven, our President and CEO, Roberto Bel, our Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, as well as other members of our senior management team. Certain statements in today's call contain estimates and other forward-looking statements within the meaning of the securities laws. We wish to caution listeners of this call that the current expectations, assumptions, and belief forming the basis of our forward-looking statements include many factors that are beyond our ability to control or estimate precisely. This could cause results to materially differ from our expectations, as found on slide 2.
Speaker #2: Welcome to NEW JERSEY RESOURCES Fiscal 2025, fourth quarter and year-end conference call and webcast. I am joined here today by Steve Westhoven, our President and CEO, Roberto Bel, our Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, as well as other members of our Senior Management Team.
Speaker #2: Certain statements in today's call contain estimates and other forward-looking statements within the meaning of the securities laws. We wish to caution listeners of this call that the current expectations, assumptions, and belief forming the basis of our forward-looking statements include many factors that are beyond our ability to control or estimate precisely.
Speaker #2: This could cause results to materially differ from our expectations as found on Slide 2. These items can also be found in the forward-looking statements section of yesterday's earnings release.
Adam Pryor: These items can also be found in the forward-looking statement section of yesterday's earnings release, furnished on Form 8-K and in our most recent Forms 10-K and 10-Q, as filed with the SEC. We do not, by including this statement, assume any obligation to review or revise any particular forward-looking statement referenced herein in light of future events. We will also be referring to certain non-GAAP financial measures, such as net financial earnings or NFE. We believe that NFE, net financial loss, utility gross margin, financial margin, adjusted funds from operations, and adjusted debt provide a more complete understanding of our financial performance. However, these non-GAAP measures are not intended to be a substitute for GAAP. Our non-GAAP financial measures are discussed more fully in Item 7 of our 10-K. The slides for today's presentation are available on our website and were furnished on our Form 8-K filed yesterday.
These items can also be found in the forward-looking statement section of yesterday's earnings release, furnished on Form 8-K and in our most recent Forms 10-K and 10-Q, as filed with the SEC. We do not, by including this statement, assume any obligation to review or revise any particular forward-looking statement referenced herein in light of future events. We will also be referring to certain non-GAAP financial measures, such as net financial earnings or NFE. We believe that NFE, net financial loss, utility gross margin, financial margin, adjusted funds from operations, and adjusted debt provide a more complete understanding of our financial performance. However, these non-GAAP measures are not intended to be a substitute for GAAP. Our non-GAAP financial measures are discussed more fully in Item 7 of our 10-K. The slides for today's presentation are available on our website and were furnished on our Form 8-K filed yesterday.
Speaker #2: Furnish on Form 8-K and in our most recent Forms 10-K and 10-Q as filed with the SEC. We do not, by including this statement, assume any obligation to review or revise any particular forward-looking statement referenced herein in light of future certain non-GAAP financial measures, such events.
Speaker #2: We will also be referring to it as net financial earnings, or NFE. We believe that NFE, net financial loss, utility gross margin, financial margin, adjusted funds from operations, and adjusted debt provide a more complete understanding of our financial performance.
Speaker #2: However, these non-GAAP measures are not intended to be a substitute for GAAP. Our non-GAAP financial measures are discussed more fully in Item Seven of our 10-K.
Speaker #2: The slides for today's presentation are available on our website, and were furnished on our form AK filed yesterday. Steve will start with this year's highlights in a business unit overview, beginning on slide five.
Adam Pryor: Steve will start with this year's highlights and a business unit overview, beginning on slide 5. Roberto will then review our financial results. Then we will open it up for your questions. With that said, I will turn the call over to our President and CEO, Steve Westhoven. Please go ahead, Steve.
Steve will start with this year's highlights and a business unit overview, beginning on slide 5. Roberto will then review our financial results. Then we will open it up for your questions. With that said, I will turn the call over to our President and CEO, Steve Westhoven. Please go ahead, Steve.
Speaker #2: Roberto will then review our financial results. Then we will open it up for your questions. With that said, I will turn the call over to our President and CEO, Steve Westhoven.
Speaker #2: Please go ahead, Steve.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Adam. And good morning, everyone. I hope you all had a chance to review our earnings materials, which include detailed disclosures on our growth prospects.
Steve Westhoven: Thanks, Adam, and good morning, everyone. I hope you all had a chance to review our earnings materials, which include detailed disclosures on our growth prospects. I wanted to start by discussing a few highlights. We delivered excellent results in fiscal 2025, driven by strong execution and performance. For the fifth year in a row, we exceeded initial earnings guidance and long-term growth targets. After a successful 2025, there are a few key themes as we look ahead for fiscal 2026 and beyond. First, consistency and execution. We're guiding to NFEPS of 303 to 318 per share in fiscal 2026. The range is consistent with our long-term 7% to 9% growth rate, while leaving additional room for upside. Second, targeted capital deployment.
Steve Westhoven: Thanks, Adam, and good morning, everyone. I hope you all had a chance to review our earnings materials, which include detailed disclosures on our growth prospects. I wanted to start by discussing a few highlights. We delivered excellent results in fiscal 2025, driven by strong execution and performance. For the fifth year in a row, we exceeded initial earnings guidance and long-term growth targets. After a successful 2025, there are a few key themes as we look ahead for fiscal 2026 and beyond. First, consistency and execution. We're guiding to NFEPS of 303 to 318 per share in fiscal 2026. The range is consistent with our long-term 7% to 9% growth rate, while leaving additional room for upside. Second, targeted capital deployment.
Speaker #3: I wanted to start by discussing a few highlights. We delivered excellent results in fiscal 2025, driven by strong execution and performance. For the fifth year in a row, we exceeded initial earnings guidance and long-term growth targets.
Speaker #3: After a successful 2025, there were a few key themes as we look ahead to fiscal 2026 and beyond. First, consistency in execution. We're guiding to NFEPS of $3.03 to $3.18 per share in fiscal 2026.
Speaker #3: The range is consistent with our long-term seven to nine percent growth rate, while leaving additional room for upside. Second, targeted capital deployment. We expect to invest roughly $5 billion over the next five years across the whole company, with roughly 60% allocated to our utility, New Jersey Natural Gas.
Steve Westhoven: We expect to invest roughly $5 billion over the next 5 years across the whole company, with roughly 60% allocated to our utility, New Jersey Natural Gas. To put the $5 billion into context, this represents a 40% increase compared to the CapEx spent over the last 5 years. Third, a healthy balance sheet anchored in disciplined financial management. We expect credit metrics to remain strong, with healthy cash flows, ample liquidity, and a balanced debt maturity profile that supports long-term stability. Importantly, NJR requires no block equity instruments to execute on its capital plan. On the next slide, we highlight a few of the key drivers of our business segments. To begin, New Jersey Natural Gas is positioned for high single-digit rate base growth through 2030.
We expect to invest roughly $5 billion over the next 5 years across the whole company, with roughly 60% allocated to our utility, New Jersey Natural Gas. To put the $5 billion into context, this represents a 40% increase compared to the CapEx spent over the last 5 years. Third, a healthy balance sheet anchored in disciplined financial management. We expect credit metrics to remain strong, with healthy cash flows, ample liquidity, and a balanced debt maturity profile that supports long-term stability. Importantly, NJR requires no block equity instruments to execute on its capital plan. On the next slide, we highlight a few of the key drivers of our business segments. To begin, New Jersey Natural Gas is positioned for high single-digit rate base growth through 2030.
Speaker #3: But with the $5 billion in the context, this represents a 40% increase compared to the CapEx spent over the last five years. Third, a healthy balance sheet anchored in disciplined financial management.
Speaker #3: We expect credit metrics to remain strong with healthy cash flows, ample liquidity, and a balanced debt maturity profile that supports long-term stability. Importantly, NJR requires no block equity issuance to execute on its capital plan.
Speaker #3: On the next slide, we highlight a few of the key drivers that our business segments. To begin, New Jersey Natural Gas is positioned for high single-digit rate-based growth through 2030.
Speaker #3: S&T is expected to more than double net financial earnings by 2027, driven by favorable recontracting of both Adelphia and Leaf River. And looking ahead, we recently filed with FERC a plan to increase working gas capacity by over 70% at Leaf River.
Steve Westhoven: S&T is expected to more than double net financial earnings by 2027, driven by favorable recontracting of both Adelphia and Leaf River. Looking ahead, we recently filed with FERC a plan to increase working gas capacity by over 70% at Leaf River. At Clean Energy Ventures, we expect to expand capacity by more than 50% over the next 2 years, with a robust pipeline of safe harbor projects. In short, through a disciplined capital investment strategy, we have visibility to deliver sustainable growth well into the future, supported by a solid balance sheet. We are able to achieve all this with minimal dilution to shareholders. Let me turn to a brief discussion of each business unit, starting with New Jersey Natural Gas on slide 7.
S&T is expected to more than double net financial earnings by 2027, driven by favorable recontracting of both Adelphia and Leaf River. Looking ahead, we recently filed with FERC a plan to increase working gas capacity by over 70% at Leaf River. At Clean Energy Ventures, we expect to expand capacity by more than 50% over the next 2 years, with a robust pipeline of safe harbor projects. In short, through a disciplined capital investment strategy, we have visibility to deliver sustainable growth well into the future, supported by a solid balance sheet. We are able to achieve all this with minimal dilution to shareholders. Let me turn to a brief discussion of each business unit, starting with New Jersey Natural Gas on slide 7.
Speaker #3: And a clean energy venture is we expect to expand capacity by more than 50% over the next two years, with a robust pipeline of safe harbor projects.
Speaker #3: In short, through a disciplined capital investment strategy, we have visibility to deliver sustainable growth well into the future, supported by a solid balance sheet.
Speaker #3: And we're able to achieve all this with minimal dilution to shareholders. Let me turn to a brief discussion of each business unit, starting with the New Jersey Natural Gas on slide seven.
Speaker #3: Our planned investments at New Jersey Natural Gas are expected to drive high single-digit rate-based growth through 2030. New Jersey Natural Gas operates within a constructive utility framework and continues to make responsible investments in safety and reliability, while prioritizing affordability for our customers.
Steve Westhoven: Our planned investments at New Jersey Natural Gas are expected to drive high single-digit rate base growth through 2030. New Jersey Natural Gas operates within a constructive utility framework and continues to make responsible investments in safety and reliability while prioritizing affordability for our customers. Natural gas is by far the cheapest option for customers to heat their home. Energy efficiency programs, such as Save Green, further reduce usage and costs while aligning with environmental goals. For example, residential customers who fully participate in Save Green Whole Home offerings see a reduction of up to 30% in their energy usage, saving hundreds of dollars in utility costs every year. Moving to the next slide, storage and transportation is emerging as a key earnings growth driver for NJR.
Our planned investments at New Jersey Natural Gas are expected to drive high single-digit rate base growth through 2030. New Jersey Natural Gas operates within a constructive utility framework and continues to make responsible investments in safety and reliability while prioritizing affordability for our customers. Natural gas is by far the cheapest option for customers to heat their home. Energy efficiency programs, such as Save Green, further reduce usage and costs while aligning with environmental goals. For example, residential customers who fully participate in Save Green Whole Home offerings see a reduction of up to 30% in their energy usage, saving hundreds of dollars in utility costs every year. Moving to the next slide, storage and transportation is emerging as a key earnings growth driver for NJR.
Speaker #3: Natural gas is by far the cheapest option for customers to heat their home. Energy efficiency programs such as SaveGreen further reduce usage and costs, while aligning with environmental goals.
Speaker #3: For example, residential customers who fully participate in SAVEGREEN whole-home offerings see a reduction of up to 30% in their energy usage, saving hundreds of dollars in utility costs every year.
Speaker #3: Moving to the next slide, storage and transportation is emerging as a key earnings growth driver for NJR. Over the next two years, we expect NFE to more than double at S&T, and this is largely driven by strong recontracting of both Adelphia and Leaf River.
Steve Westhoven: Over the next few years, we expect NFE to more than double at S&T, and this is largely driven by strong recontracting in both Adelphia and Leaf River. These are fixed price contracts with quality and creditworthy counterparties. We recently reached a settlement in our FERC rate case at Adelphia. This constructive outcome enables recovery of the substantial investments and operational improvements made in recent years. While near-term earnings are set to double, we are actively pursuing organic growth opportunities for additional upside at Leaf River, which we outline on the next slide. When we acquired Leaf River in 2019, it positioned NJR as a leading service provider in the Gulf Coast, one of the highest growing energy demand centers in the United States. In addition to the prime location, the long-term value of the asset was enhanced by expansion options beyond the three existing operating caverns.
Over the next few years, we expect NFE to more than double at S&T, and this is largely driven by strong recontracting in both Adelphia and Leaf River. These are fixed price contracts with quality and creditworthy counterparties. We recently reached a settlement in our FERC rate case at Adelphia. This constructive outcome enables recovery of the substantial investments and operational improvements made in recent years. While near-term earnings are set to double, we are actively pursuing organic growth opportunities for additional upside at Leaf River, which we outline on the next slide. When we acquired Leaf River in 2019, it positioned NJR as a leading service provider in the Gulf Coast, one of the highest growing energy demand centers in the United States. In addition to the prime location, the long-term value of the asset was enhanced by expansion options beyond the three existing operating caverns.
Speaker #3: These are fixed-price contracts with quality, credit-worthy counterparties. We recently reached a settlement in our FERC rate case at Adelphia. This constructive outcome enables recovery of the substantial investments and operational improvements made in recent years.
Speaker #3: While near-term earnings are set to double, we are actively pursuing organic growth opportunities for additional upside at Leaf River, which we outline on the next slide.
Speaker #3: When we acquired Leaf River in 2019, the positioned NJR is a leading service provider in the Gulf Coast, one of the highest-growing energy demand centers in the United States.
Speaker #3: In addition to the prime location, the long-term value of the asset was enhanced by expansion options beyond the three existing operating caverns. Since our purchase of the asset, market demand has strengthened.
Steve Westhoven: Since our purchase of the asset, market demand has strengthened. Throughout fiscal 2025, we conducted a number of non-binding open seasons, which confirmed a high level of commercial interest in capacity expansion. Following this favorable response, we filed a FERC application at the end of October that included several complementary investments to increase Leaf River's working gas capacity by over 70%. They include the expansion of our existing caverns to a working gas capacity of 43 Bcf by 2028, and the development of an additional fourth cavern that will bring total capacity to 55 Bcf. Each phase of the investment is expected to be backed by long-term fee-based contracts, building on our already strong NFE growth. This phased approach has an inherent speed-to-market advantage that positions NJR ahead of greenfield development options.
Since our purchase of the asset, market demand has strengthened. Throughout fiscal 2025, we conducted a number of non-binding open seasons, which confirmed a high level of commercial interest in capacity expansion. Following this favorable response, we filed a FERC application at the end of October that included several complementary investments to increase Leaf River's working gas capacity by over 70%. They include the expansion of our existing caverns to a working gas capacity of 43 Bcf by 2028, and the development of an additional fourth cavern that will bring total capacity to 55 Bcf. Each phase of the investment is expected to be backed by long-term fee-based contracts, building on our already strong NFE growth. This phased approach has an inherent speed-to-market advantage that positions NJR ahead of greenfield development options.
Speaker #3: Throughout fiscal 2025, we conducted a number of non-bonding open seasons, which confirmed a high level of commercial interest in capacity expansion. Following this favorable response, we filed a FERC application at the end of October that included several complementary investments to increase Leaf River's working gas capacity by over 70%.
Speaker #3: They include the expansion of our existing caverns to a working gas capacity of 43 Bcf by 2028, and the development of an additional fourth cavern that will bring total capacity to 55 Bcf.
Speaker #3: Each phase of the investment is expected to be backed by long-term fee-based contracts, building on our already strong NFE growth. This phased approach has an inherent speed-to-market advantage that positions NJR ahead of Greenfield development options.
Speaker #3: To conclude, we see considerable upside in both the near and long term, as S&T becomes a greater contributor to NJR's earnings profile. Moving to clean energy ventures on slide 10, we expect to grow in-service capacity by more than 50% over the next two years.
Steve Westhoven: To conclude, we see considerable upside in both the near and long term as S&P becomes a greater contributor to NJR's earnings profile. Moving to Clean Energy Ventures on slide 10, we expect to grow in-service capacity by more than 50% over the next 2 years. Looking ahead, we have a strong project pipeline designed to maintain investment tax credits through strategic safe harboring. This positions CEV to deliver continued growth in high single-digit unlevered returns. So with that, I'll turn the call over to Roberto for a financial review. Roberto?
To conclude, we see considerable upside in both the near and long term as S&P becomes a greater contributor to NJR's earnings profile. Moving to Clean Energy Ventures on slide 10, we expect to grow in-service capacity by more than 50% over the next 2 years. Looking ahead, we have a strong project pipeline designed to maintain investment tax credits through strategic safe harboring. This positions CEV to deliver continued growth in high single-digit unlevered returns. So with that, I'll turn the call over to Roberto for a financial review. Roberto?
Speaker #3: Looking ahead, we have a strong project pipeline designed to maintain investment tax credits through strategic safe harboring. This position CEV to deliver continued growth and high single-digit unlevered returns.
Speaker #3: So, with that, I'll turn the call over to Roberto for a financial review. Roberto?
Speaker #2: Thanks, Steve. Fiscal 2025 was an excellent year. With strong earnings growth, a solid balance sheet, and continued investment across our businesses, slide 12 highlights a few fiscal 2025 accomplishments.
Roberto Bel: Thanks, Steve. Fiscal 2025 was an excellent year, with strong earnings growth, a solid balance sheet, and continued investment across our businesses. Slide 12 highlights a few fiscal 2025 accomplishments. New Jersey Natural Gas achieved a constructive outcome in its recent rate case and delivered record investments for SaveGreen. Clean Energy Ventures added record new capacity. In fiscal 2025, CEV placed 93MW of new commercial solar capacity into service, expanding our portfolio to 479MW. In addition, CEV secured investment options for years to come through effective safe harboring. In storage and transportation, Adelphia received approval of settlement on its third rate case, while delivering our advanced expansion initiatives. Energy services achieved strong cash flow generation, and our home services business was named a Rheem Top 20 Pro Partner for the ninth consecutive year.
Roberto Bel: Thanks, Steve. Fiscal 2025 was an excellent year, with strong earnings growth, a solid balance sheet, and continued investment across our businesses. Slide 12 highlights a few fiscal 2025 accomplishments. New Jersey Natural Gas achieved a constructive outcome in its recent rate case and delivered record investments for SaveGreen. Clean Energy Ventures added record new capacity. In fiscal 2025, CEV placed 93MW of new commercial solar capacity into service, expanding our portfolio to 479MW. In addition, CEV secured investment options for years to come through effective safe harboring. In storage and transportation, Adelphia received approval of settlement on its third rate case, while delivering our advanced expansion initiatives. Energy services achieved strong cash flow generation, and our home services business was named a Rheem Top 20 Pro Partner for the ninth consecutive year.
Speaker #2: New Jersey Natural Gas achieved a constructive outcome in its recent rate case and delivered record investments for SaveGreen. Clean energy ventures added record new capacity.
Speaker #2: In fiscal 2025, CEV placed 93 megawatts of new commercial solar capacity into service, expanding our portfolio to 479 megawatts. In addition, CEV secured investment options for years to come through effective safe harboring.
Speaker #2: In storage and transportation, Adelphia received approval for settlement on its first rate case, while Leaf River advanced expansion initiatives. Energy Services achieved strong cash flow generation, and our Home Services business was named an A. O. Smith Top 20 Pro Partner for the ninth consecutive year.
Speaker #2: We also marked an important milestone: 30 consecutive years of dividend increases, underscoring confidence in our long-term plan. On the next slide, we finished the year at the top end of our guidance range.
Roberto Bel: We also marked an important milestone, 30 consecutive years of dividend increases, underscoring confidence in our long-term plan. On the next slide, we finished the year at the top end of our guidance range, which was raised earlier this year. We delivered financial results ahead of expectations. Roughly two-thirds of total NFE came from the utility, and when you exclude the net impact of the sale of our residential solar assets, that figure raises to over 70%, underscoring the stability of our earnings. Drivers of our performance include the completion of a rate case and a record year of saving investment. Additional drivers include approximately $0.30 per share from the sale of our residential solar portfolio, improved performance from our Storage and Transportation business, and a solid winter results from energy services.
We also marked an important milestone, 30 consecutive years of dividend increases, underscoring confidence in our long-term plan. On the next slide, we finished the year at the top end of our guidance range, which was raised earlier this year. We delivered financial results ahead of expectations. Roughly two-thirds of total NFE came from the utility, and when you exclude the net impact of the sale of our residential solar assets, that figure raises to over 70%, underscoring the stability of our earnings. Drivers of our performance include the completion of a rate case and a record year of saving investment. Additional drivers include approximately $0.30 per share from the sale of our residential solar portfolio, improved performance from our Storage and Transportation business, and a solid winter results from energy services.
Speaker #2: Which was raised earlier this year. We delivered financial results ahead of expectations. Roughly two-thirds of total NFEPS came from the utility. And when you exclude the net impact of the sale of our residential solar assets, that figure raises to over 70%, underscoring the stability of our earnings.
Speaker #2: Drivers of our performance include the completion of our rate case and a record year of SAVEGREEN reinvestment. Additional drivers include approximately $0.30 per share from the sale of our residential solar portfolio, improved performance from our storage and transportation business, and a solid winter result from Energy Services.
Speaker #2: Moving to the discussion of CapEx on slide 14, we deployed $850 million across our businesses, which I'll highlight in the next few slides. On slide 15, New Jersey Natural Gas represented approximately 64% of total CapEx, with investments directed towards strengthening core infrastructure, enhancing system safety and reliability, and supporting customer growth.
Roberto Bel: Moving to a discussion of CapEx on slide 14, we deployed $850 million across our businesses, which I'll highlight in the next few slides. On slide 15, New Jersey Natural Gas represented approximately 64% of total CapEx, with investments directed towards strengthening core infrastructure, enhancing system safety and reliability, and supporting customer growth. Almost half of these investments earned recovery with minimal lag. As shown in slide 16, fiscal 2025 CapEx for CEV came in well above expectations, reflecting accelerated progress. Importantly, our capital deployment target is fully safe harbored, securing tax benefits for future capital expenditures. Building on this from 2025, I wanted to shift our CapEx outlook on slide 17. We're sharing a five-year CapEx outlook of $4.8 to 5.2 billion through fiscal 2030.
Moving to a discussion of CapEx on slide 14, we deployed $850 million across our businesses, which I'll highlight in the next few slides. On slide 15, New Jersey Natural Gas represented approximately 64% of total CapEx, with investments directed towards strengthening core infrastructure, enhancing system safety and reliability, and supporting customer growth. Almost half of these investments earned recovery with minimal lag. As shown in slide 16, fiscal 2025 CapEx for CEV came in well above expectations, reflecting accelerated progress. Importantly, our capital deployment target is fully safe harbored, securing tax benefits for future capital expenditures. Building on this from 2025, I wanted to shift our CapEx outlook on slide 17. We're sharing a five-year CapEx outlook of $4.8 to 5.2 billion through fiscal 2030.
Speaker #2: Almost half of these investments earned recovery with minimal lag. As shown on slide 16, fiscal 2025 CapEx for CEV came in well above expectations, reflecting accelerated progress.
Speaker #2: Importantly, our capital deployment target is fully safe harbor, securing tax benefits for future capital expenditures. Building on this strong 2025, I wanted to shift our CapEx outlook on slide 17.
Speaker #2: For sharing a five-year CapEx outlook of $4.8 to $5.2 billion through fiscal 2030, this represents a 40% increase over the previous five years of capital spending across our businesses.
Roberto Bel: This represents a 40% increase over the previous five years of capital spending across our businesses. We expect that more than 60% of our total projected CapEx will be dedicated to the utility, with CEV and S&T representing the balance. Together, these investments support our 7 to 9% long-term NFEPS growth target, while maintaining a solid balance sheet, as discussed in the next slide. Strong cash generation across our businesses translating to an adjusted FFO to adjusted debt ratio that is projected to remain at around 20% for the next five years, with no block equity needed. Additionally, ample liquidity and a well-laddered debt maturity profile minimize near-term refinancing risk and preserves financial flexibility. And finally, we're initiating fiscal 2026 NFEPS guidance with a range of $3.03 to $3.18 per share.
This represents a 40% increase over the previous five years of capital spending across our businesses. We expect that more than 60% of our total projected CapEx will be dedicated to the utility, with CEV and S&T representing the balance. Together, these investments support our 7 to 9% long-term NFEPS growth target, while maintaining a solid balance sheet, as discussed in the next slide. Strong cash generation across our businesses translating to an adjusted FFO to adjusted debt ratio that is projected to remain at around 20% for the next five years, with no block equity needed. Additionally, ample liquidity and a well-laddered debt maturity profile minimize near-term refinancing risk and preserves financial flexibility. And finally, we're initiating fiscal 2026 NFEPS guidance with a range of $3.03 to $3.18 per share.
Speaker #2: We expect that more than 60% of our total projected CapEx will be dedicated to the utility, with CEV and S&P representing the balance. Together, these investments support our 7% to 9% long-term NFEPS growth target, while maintaining a solid balance sheet as discussed in the next slide.
Speaker #2: Strong cash generation across our businesses translates into an adjusted FFO to adjusted debt ratio that is projected to remain at around 20% for the next five years, with no block equity needed.
Speaker #2: Additionally, ample liquidity and a well-laddered debt maturity profile minimize near-term refinancing risk and preserve financial flexibility. And finally, we're initiating fiscal 2026 NFEPS guidance with a range of $3.03 to $3.18 per share.
Speaker #2: The range is consistent with our long-term 7% to 9% growth rate, while leaving additional room for upside. The utility is expected to contribute approximately 70% of fiscal 2026 NFEPS.
Roberto Bel: The range is consistent with our long-term 7 to 9% growth rate, while leaving additional room for upside. The utility is expected to contribute approximately 70% of fiscal 2026 NFEPS, complemented by earnings growth from CEV and S&T, and a baseline outlook for energy services. With that, I'll turn it back to Steve for concluding remarks on slide 21.
The range is consistent with our long-term 7 to 9% growth rate, while leaving additional room for upside. The utility is expected to contribute approximately 70% of fiscal 2026 NFEPS, complemented by earnings growth from CEV and S&T, and a baseline outlook for energy services. With that, I'll turn it back to Steve for concluding remarks on slide 21.
Speaker #2: Complemented by earnings growth from CEV and S&P and a baseline outlook for energy services. With that, I'll turn it back to Steve for concluding remarks on slide
Speaker #2: 21. Thanks, Roberto.
Steve Westhoven: Thanks, Roberto. Over the last 25 years, we've delivered industry-leading returns, reflecting both the quality of our utility investments and disciplined contributions from our non-utility businesses. While our infrastructure investments have been the foundation of this performance, energy services has complemented that strength, enhancing consolidated returns and providing flexibility to reinvest in our infrastructure businesses. To recap, fiscal 2025 was another year of solid execution, marking 5 consecutive years of exceeding initial earnings expectations. Our long-term growth remains anchored by our regulated utility, with clear visibility into capital spending at New Jersey Natural Gas. Storage and transportation is set for accelerated growth, with earnings expected to more than double in the near term before we even begin to factor in those capacity expansions we highlighted earlier.
Steve Westhoven: Thanks, Roberto. Over the last 25 years, we've delivered industry-leading returns, reflecting both the quality of our utility investments and disciplined contributions from our non-utility businesses. While our infrastructure investments have been the foundation of this performance, energy services has complemented that strength, enhancing consolidated returns and providing flexibility to reinvest in our infrastructure businesses. To recap, fiscal 2025 was another year of solid execution, marking 5 consecutive years of exceeding initial earnings expectations. Our long-term growth remains anchored by our regulated utility, with clear visibility into capital spending at New Jersey Natural Gas. Storage and transportation is set for accelerated growth, with earnings expected to more than double in the near term before we even begin to factor in those capacity expansions we highlighted earlier.
Speaker #1: Over the last 25 years, we've delivered industry-leading returns, reflecting both the quality of our utility investments and disciplined contributions from our non-utility businesses. While our infrastructure investments have been the foundation of this performance energy services as complement to that strength, enhancing consolidated returns and providing flexibility to reinvest in our infrastructure businesses.
Speaker #1: To recap, fiscal 2025 was another year of solid execution, marking five consecutive years of exceeding initial earnings expectations. Our long-term growth remains anchored by our regulated utility, with clear visibility into capital spending, as New Jersey Natural Gas.
Speaker #1: Storage and transportation is set for accelerated growth, with earnings expected more than double in the near term, before we even begin to factor in those capacity expansions we highlighted earlier.
Speaker #1: Over the next two years, clean energy ventures expect a 50% increase in installed capacity, and our project pipeline is secured into the future through proactive safe harboring.
Steve Westhoven: Over the next 2 years, Clean Energy Ventures expects a 50% increase in installed capacity, and our project pipeline is secured into the future through proactive state partnering. NJR today stands as a balanced, diversified energy infrastructure company built for long-term stability and value creation. The outlook for fiscal 2026 and beyond is clear, well-funded, and utility anchored. As we all know, New Jersey recently had a gubernatorial election. Electricity prices and affordability issues were front and center. We understand the challenge the state is facing today, and we look forward to working with the incoming governor to meet her call for swift deployment of clean energy solutions and to continue providing affordable natural gas service to families and businesses. And finally, a sincere thank you to all NJR employees for your dedication and hard work throughout the past year.
Over the next 2 years, Clean Energy Ventures expects a 50% increase in installed capacity, and our project pipeline is secured into the future through proactive state partnering. NJR today stands as a balanced, diversified energy infrastructure company built for long-term stability and value creation. The outlook for fiscal 2026 and beyond is clear, well-funded, and utility anchored. As we all know, New Jersey recently had a gubernatorial election. Electricity prices and affordability issues were front and center. We understand the challenge the state is facing today, and we look forward to working with the incoming governor to meet her call for swift deployment of clean energy solutions and to continue providing affordable natural gas service to families and businesses. And finally, a sincere thank you to all NJR employees for your dedication and hard work throughout the past year.
Speaker #1: NJR today stands as a balanced, diversified energy infrastructure company, built for long-term stability and value creation. The outlook for fiscal 2026 and beyond is clear, well-funded, and utility-anchored.
Speaker #1: As we all know, New Jersey recently had a gubernatorial election, electricity prices and affordability issues were front and center. We understand the challenge the state is facing today, and we look forward to working with the incoming governor to meet her call for swift deployment of clean energy solutions and to continue providing affordable natural gas service to families and businesses.
Speaker #1: And finally, a sincere thank you to all NJR employees for your dedication and hard work throughout the past year. Your commitment is the foundation for our continued success.
Steve Westhoven: Your commitment is the foundation for our continued success. With that, let's open the line for questions.
Your commitment is the foundation for our continued success. With that, let's open the line for questions.
Speaker #1: So with that, let's open the line for
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, I will now turn the call over to Adam Pryor, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, I will now turn the call over to Adam Pryor, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Ladies and gentlemen, I will now turn the call over to Adam Prior, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Thank you, Kelvin. Well, for those of you on the call, I'm sure you noticed that we just ran through our fourth quarter script, which we read in November.
Adam Pryor: Thank you, Kelvin. Well, for those of you on the call, I'm sure you noticed that we just ran through our fourth quarter script, which we read in November, and we want to give you an update for Q1. So we're going to go through our presentation for that script now, and I'll turn it over to Steve Westhoven, and he'll go through our first quarter results, and Roberto Bel will follow with our financial results, and then we'll be happy to take your questions. Thank you for your patience.
Adam Prior: Thank you, Kelvin. Well, for those of you on the call, I'm sure you noticed that we just ran through our fourth quarter script, which we read in November, and we want to give you an update for Q1. So we're going to go through our presentation for that script now, and I'll turn it over to Steve Westhoven, and he'll go through our first quarter results, and Roberto Bel will follow with our financial results, and then we'll be happy to take your questions. Thank you for your patience.
Speaker #1: And we want to give you an update for Q1. And so we're going to go through our presentation for that script now, and I'll turn it over to Steve Westhoven.
Speaker #1: And he'll go through our first quarter results, and Roberto Bel will follow with our financial results. Then we'll be happy to take your questions. Thank you for your
Speaker #1: patience. Yeah, thanks, Adam.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah, thanks, Adam. Yeah, sorry, everybody. We'll run through the script now, reflecting this quarter. So, natural gas industry just navigated an extraordinary weather event with record-setting demand. And once again, NJR's diversified businesses responded with extraordinary performance. I want to start today's call by acknowledging our team's execution during this prolonged period of extreme cold weather, which hasn't been seen in decades. And thanks to all of our employees for your collective efforts on behalf of our customers. Our assets were operated safely and successfully across our entire natural gas portfolio. Looking at this event and at recent major winter storms, we consistently demonstrate that our systems and our people are prepared, resilient, and able to execute under pressure. At New Jersey Natural Gas, these past few weeks highlighted how critical our lifeline services are to our customers.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah, thanks, Adam. Yeah, sorry, everybody. We'll run through the script now, reflecting this quarter. So, natural gas industry just navigated an extraordinary weather event with record-setting demand. And once again, NJR's diversified businesses responded with extraordinary performance. I want to start today's call by acknowledging our team's execution during this prolonged period of extreme cold weather, which hasn't been seen in decades. And thanks to all of our employees for your collective efforts on behalf of our customers. Our assets were operated safely and successfully across our entire natural gas portfolio. Looking at this event and at recent major winter storms, we consistently demonstrate that our systems and our people are prepared, resilient, and able to execute under pressure. At New Jersey Natural Gas, these past few weeks highlighted how critical our lifeline services are to our customers.
Speaker #3: Yeah, sorry, everybody. We'll run through the script now, reflecting this quarter. So natural gas industry just navigated an extraordinary weather event with record-setting demand.
Speaker #3: And once again, NJR's diversified businesses responded with extraordinary performance. I want to start today's call by acknowledging our team's execution during this prolonged period of extreme cold weather, which hasn't been seen in decades.
Speaker #3: And thanks to all of our employees for your collective efforts on behalf of our customers. Our assets were operated safely and successfully across our entire natural gas portfolio.
Speaker #3: Looking at this event and at recent major winter storms, we consistently demonstrate that our systems and our people are prepared, resilient, and able to execute under pressure.
Speaker #3: At New Jersey Natural Gas, these past few weeks highlighted how critical our lifeline services are to our customers. The utility kept homes and businesses warm, and supported emergency providers without interruption.
Steve Westhoven: The utility kept homes and businesses warm and supported emergency providers without interruption. Our non-utility businesses held true to the same level of performance. Both Adelphia and Leaf River experienced high utilization and continuously delivered despite regional disruptions. And our energy services team once again expertly executed. Our strategically located assets generated significant value from volatility created by the prolonged cold temperatures. And as a result of energy services performance, we're able to increase our fiscal 2026 NFEPS guidance by $0.25 a share to a range of $3.28 to $3.43 per share. This represents the sixth consecutive year of raising guidance as a result of the strength of our complementary portfolio of businesses. As I started, this was an extraordinary weather event met with NJR's extraordinary performance.
The utility kept homes and businesses warm and supported emergency providers without interruption. Our non-utility businesses held true to the same level of performance. Both Adelphia and Leaf River experienced high utilization and continuously delivered despite regional disruptions. And our energy services team once again expertly executed. Our strategically located assets generated significant value from volatility created by the prolonged cold temperatures. And as a result of energy services performance, we're able to increase our fiscal 2026 NFEPS guidance by $0.25 a share to a range of $3.28 to $3.43 per share. This represents the sixth consecutive year of raising guidance as a result of the strength of our complementary portfolio of businesses. As I started, this was an extraordinary weather event met with NJR's extraordinary performance.
Speaker #3: Our non-utility businesses held true to the same level of performance. Both Adelphia and Leaf River experienced high utilization and continuously delivered despite regional disruptions.
Speaker #3: In our energy services team, once again, expertly, executed. Our strategically located assets generated significant value from volatility created by the prolonged cold temperatures. And as a result of energy services performance, we're able to increase our fiscal 2026 NFEPS guidance by 25 cents a share to a range of 328 to 343 per share.
Speaker #3: This represents the sixth consecutive year of raising guidance as a result of the strength of our complementary portfolio of businesses. As I started, this was an extraordinary weather event met with NJR's extraordinary performance.
Steve Westhoven: I'll turn now to look how New Jersey Natural Gas took steps to protect customers against high natural gas prices during the recent cold weather. Over a 7-day stretch, New Jersey Natural Gas delivered the highest sendouts in its company's history. This demand underscores how all aspects of our local economy rely on natural gas, even more so under extreme conditions when our customers need it most. Sustained low temperatures likely will result in higher gas use by our customers, which will have an impact on bills. With the supportive regulatory framework approved by the New Jersey Board of Public Utilities, New Jersey Natural Gas is proactive in helping to protect customers against these high-use increases. Each year, the utility purchases natural gas well in advance of the heating season, when commodity prices are more likely to increase and spike during the winter weather events.
Speaker #3: I'll turn now to look at how New Jersey Natural Gas took steps to protect customers against high natural gas prices during the recent cold weather.
I'll turn now to look how New Jersey Natural Gas took steps to protect customers against high natural gas prices during the recent cold weather. Over a 7-day stretch, New Jersey Natural Gas delivered the highest sendouts in its company's history. This demand underscores how all aspects of our local economy rely on natural gas, even more so under extreme conditions when our customers need it most. Sustained low temperatures likely will result in higher gas use by our customers, which will have an impact on bills. With the supportive regulatory framework approved by the New Jersey Board of Public Utilities, New Jersey Natural Gas is proactive in helping to protect customers against these high-use increases. Each year, the utility purchases natural gas well in advance of the heating season, when commodity prices are more likely to increase and spike during the winter weather events.
Speaker #3: Over a seven-day stretch, New Jersey Natural Gas delivered the highest send-outs in its company's history. This demand underscores how all aspects of our local economy rely on natural gas.
Speaker #3: Even more so under extreme conditions, when our customers need us most. Sustained low temperatures likely will result in higher gas use by our customers, which will have an impact on bills.
Speaker #3: With a supportive regulatory framework approved by the New Jersey Board of Public Utilities, New Jersey Natural Gas is proactive in helping to protect customers against these high-use increases.
Speaker #3: Each year, the utility purchases natural gas well in advance of the heating season. When commodity prices are more likely to increase and spike during winter weather events, as a matter of policy, a minimum of 75% of the upcoming winter season's projected gas needs are secured in advance.
Steve Westhoven: As a matter of policy, a minimum of 75% of the upcoming winter season's projected gas needs are secured in advance. Going into this winter, New Jersey Natural Gas was over 87% hedged, and this is impactful. Our averaged hedge price is approximately $2.20 per dekatherm for gas and storage in LNG, and that compares to a city gate pricing that trade in excess of $135 per dekatherm during the event. This disciplined approach prioritizes affordability as it allows us to secure cost-effective supply to serve our customers. In addition, throughout the year, our energy efficiency programs, namely SaveGreen, helped customers reduce usage and lower bills. More than 110,000 customers have taken part in our programs to date, and those utilizing our whole home offerings, realizing bill savings of roughly 30%.
As a matter of policy, a minimum of 75% of the upcoming winter season's projected gas needs are secured in advance. Going into this winter, New Jersey Natural Gas was over 87% hedged, and this is impactful. Our averaged hedge price is approximately $2.20 per dekatherm for gas and storage in LNG, and that compares to a city gate pricing that trade in excess of $135 per dekatherm during the event. This disciplined approach prioritizes affordability as it allows us to secure cost-effective supply to serve our customers. In addition, throughout the year, our energy efficiency programs, namely SaveGreen, helped customers reduce usage and lower bills. More than 110,000 customers have taken part in our programs to date, and those utilizing our whole home offerings, realizing bill savings of roughly 30%.
Speaker #3: Going into this winter, New Jersey Natural Gas was over 87% hedged, and this has impactful. Our average hedge prices are approximately $2.20 per decagram for gas and storage and LNG.
Speaker #3: And that compares to a city gate pricing that traded in excess of $135 per decatherm during the event. This disciplined approach prioritizes affordability as it allows us to our customers.
Speaker #3: In addition, throughout the year, our energy efficiency programs namely SAVEGREEN help customers reduce usage and lower bills. More than 110,000 customers have taken part in our programs to date.
Speaker #3: And those utilizing our whole-home offerings are realizing bill savings of roughly 30%. In addition to managing usage, we also provide support through financial assistance programs, equal payment plans, and proactive outreach.
Steve Westhoven: In addition to managing usage, we also provide support through financial assistance programs, equal payment plans, and proactive outreach. These efforts help connect customers with more than $16.5 million in energy assistance funding. Now let's turn to customer growth. Natural gas remains the cheapest option to heat homes and businesses, supporting New Jersey Natural Gas's strong customer growth rate. This growth also reflects favorable trends in new construction and conversions across our service territory. In our slide deck, we included a photo of the new housing development in Monmouth County that will add roughly 350 new customers once completed. It's a clear example of the meaningful customer-driven opportunity ahead. Now switching to a discussion of our storage and transportation business on slide 8. As we noted on our year-end earnings call, we expect to double NFE over the next 2 years at S&T.
In addition to managing usage, we also provide support through financial assistance programs, equal payment plans, and proactive outreach. These efforts help connect customers with more than $16.5 million in energy assistance funding. Now let's turn to customer growth. Natural gas remains the cheapest option to heat homes and businesses, supporting New Jersey Natural Gas's strong customer growth rate. This growth also reflects favorable trends in new construction and conversions across our service territory. In our slide deck, we included a photo of the new housing development in Monmouth County that will add roughly 350 new customers once completed. It's a clear example of the meaningful customer-driven opportunity ahead. Now switching to a discussion of our storage and transportation business on slide 8. As we noted on our year-end earnings call, we expect to double NFE over the next 2 years at S&T.
Speaker #3: These efforts help connect customers with more than 16 and a half million dollars in energy assistance funding. Now, let's turn to customer growth. Natural gas remains the cheapest option to heat homes and businesses.
Speaker #3: Supporting New Jersey Natural Gas’s strong customer growth rate. This growth also reflects favorable trends in new construction and conversions across our service territory. In our slide deck, we included a photo of a new housing development in Monmouth County that will add roughly 350 new customers once completed.
Speaker #3: It's a clear example of the meaningful, customer-driven opportunity ahead. Now, switching to a discussion of our storage and transportation business on slide eight. As we noted on our year-end earnings call, we expect a double NFE over the next two years at S&T.
Speaker #3: This is driven by strong recontracting of both Adelphi and Leaf River. These are fixed-price contracts with quality, credit-worthy counterparties. During the first quarter, we filed the FERC application that includes several complementary businesses that would increase Leaf River's working capacity by more than 70% over the next few years.
Steve Westhoven: This is driven by strong recontracting in both the Adelphia and Leaf River. These are fixed-price contracts with quality credit-rated counterparties. During Q1, we filed a FERC application that includes several complementary businesses that would increase Leaf River's working capacity by more than 70% over the next few years. Today, we're announcing that we've already secured a long-term contract that covers the initial capacity expansion at our existing caverns. The remaining phases of the project will be supported by long-term fee-based contracts. We're currently active in the FERC process, with likely authorization decision coming by the end of the fiscal year. This is on track with our expectations, and we'll provide updates as the project progresses. Moving to clean energy ventures on slide 9, we have added approximately 10 MW of capacity during the quarter.
This is driven by strong recontracting in both the Adelphia and Leaf River. These are fixed-price contracts with quality credit-rated counterparties. During Q1, we filed a FERC application that includes several complementary businesses that would increase Leaf River's working capacity by more than 70% over the next few years. Today, we're announcing that we've already secured a long-term contract that covers the initial capacity expansion at our existing caverns. The remaining phases of the project will be supported by long-term fee-based contracts. We're currently active in the FERC process, with likely authorization decision coming by the end of the fiscal year. This is on track with our expectations, and we'll provide updates as the project progresses. Moving to clean energy ventures on slide 9, we have added approximately 10 MW of capacity during the quarter.
Speaker #3: Today, we're announcing that we've already secured a long-term contract that covers the initial capacity expansion at our existing caverns. The remaining phases of the project will be supported by long-term fee-based contracts.
Speaker #3: We're currently active in the FERC process with likely authorization decision coming by the end of the fiscal year. This is on track with our expectations, and we'll provide updates as the project progresses.
Speaker #3: Moving to clean energy ventures on slide nine, we have added approximately 10 megawatts of capacity during the quarter. Looking ahead, we expect to grow in-service capacity by more than 50% over the next two years.
Steve Westhoven: Looking ahead, we expect to grow in-service capacity by more than 50% over the next two years, and our proactive Safe Harboring initiatives to preserve federal tax incentives further strengthens our leading position in the marketplace. In a region where energy affordability concerns are driven in large part by supply shortages, CEV's speed to market capability is a competitive advantage. Specifically, CEV is advancing significant wholesale PJM solar assets as PPA demand projects are trending upward. We expect these operating assets to continue to increase in values. At the same time, market shortages are opening up additional organic growth opportunities, including new technologies to optimize our existing interconnections. These technologies have the potential to unlock incremental value and add new supply to the grid at a time when New Jersey and PJM need it most.
Looking ahead, we expect to grow in-service capacity by more than 50% over the next two years, and our proactive Safe Harboring initiatives to preserve federal tax incentives further strengthens our leading position in the marketplace. In a region where energy affordability concerns are driven in large part by supply shortages, CEV's speed to market capability is a competitive advantage. Specifically, CEV is advancing significant wholesale PJM solar assets as PPA demand projects are trending upward. We expect these operating assets to continue to increase in values. At the same time, market shortages are opening up additional organic growth opportunities, including new technologies to optimize our existing interconnections. These technologies have the potential to unlock incremental value and add new supply to the grid at a time when New Jersey and PJM need it most.
Speaker #3: At our proactive safe harboring initiatives to preserve federal tax incentives further strengthens our leading position in the marketplace. In a region where energy affordability concerns are driven in large part by supply shortages, CEV speed-to-market capability is a competitive advantage.
Speaker #3: Specifically, CEV is advancing significant wholesale PGM solar assets as PGA demand projects are trending upward. We expect these operating assets to continue to increase in values.
Speaker #3: At the same time, market shortages are opening up additional organic growth opportunities, including new technologies to optimize our existing interconnections. These technologies have the potential to unlock incremental value and add new supply to the grid at a time when New Jersey and PJM need it most.
Speaker #3: So with that, I'll turn the call over to Roberto for a
Steve Westhoven: So with that, I'll turn the call over to Roberto for a financial review.
So with that, I'll turn the call over to Roberto for a financial review.
Speaker #3: financial review. Thanks,
Roberto Bel: Thanks, Steve. I'll start with a brief walk for the quarter on slide 11. Reported NFE of $118.2 million, or $1.17 per share for the quarter, reflecting disciplined execution and solid performance across our businesses. We saw higher contribution from the utility this period, largely due to new base rates being in place for the entire quarter in fiscal 2026. This was offset by a lower CEV contribution, given the gain on the sale of our initial solar assets in the prior year period. Let's move to a discussion of our capital plan on the next slide. We deployed approximately $119 million across our businesses during the quarter.
Roberto Bel: Thanks, Steve. I'll start with a brief walk for the quarter on slide 11. Reported NFE of $118.2 million, or $1.17 per share for the quarter, reflecting disciplined execution and solid performance across our businesses. We saw higher contribution from the utility this period, largely due to new base rates being in place for the entire quarter in fiscal 2026. This was offset by a lower CEV contribution, given the gain on the sale of our initial solar assets in the prior year period. Let's move to a discussion of our capital plan on the next slide. We deployed approximately $119 million across our businesses during the quarter.
Speaker #2: Steve. I'll start with a brief walk through the coursework on slide 11. We reported NFE of 118.2 million dollars or $1.17 per share for the quarter.
Speaker #2: Reflecting discipline execution and solid performance across our businesses. We saw higher contributions from the utility this period, largely due to new base rates being in place for the entire quarter in fiscal 2026.
Speaker #2: This was offset by a lower CEV contribution given the gain on the sale of our initial solar assets in the prior-year period. Let's move to a discussion of our capital plan on the next slide.
Speaker #2: We deployed approximately $119 million across our businesses during the quarter. New Jersey Natural Gas represented approximately 70% of total capex for the period.
Roberto Bel: New Jersey Natural Gas represented approximately 70% of total CapEx for the period, with investments directed towards strengthening core infrastructure, enhancing system safety and reliability, and supporting continued customer growth. We're reaffirming our five-year CapEx outlook of $4.8 to 5.2 billion through fiscal 2030. We expect that more than 60% of our total projected CapEx will be dedicated to the utility, with CEV and S&T representing the balance. At CEV, our total deployment target is fully safe harbor, securing its future ITC benefits. Together, these investments support our 7% to 9% long-term EPS growth targets, while maintaining a solid balance sheet, as discussed in the next slide. On slide 13, we highlight the strength of our balance sheet.
New Jersey Natural Gas represented approximately 70% of total CapEx for the period, with investments directed towards strengthening core infrastructure, enhancing system safety and reliability, and supporting continued customer growth. We're reaffirming our five-year CapEx outlook of $4.8 to 5.2 billion through fiscal 2030. We expect that more than 60% of our total projected CapEx will be dedicated to the utility, with CEV and S&T representing the balance. At CEV, our total deployment target is fully safe harbor, securing its future ITC benefits. Together, these investments support our 7% to 9% long-term EPS growth targets, while maintaining a solid balance sheet, as discussed in the next slide. On slide 13, we highlight the strength of our balance sheet.
Speaker #2: With investments directed towards strengthening core infrastructure, enhancing system safety and reliability, and supporting continued customer growth. We're reaffirming our five-year capex outlook of 4.8 to 5.2 billion dollars through fiscal 2030.
Speaker #2: We expect that more than 60% of our total projected capex will be dedicated to the utility, with CEV and S&T representing the balance. At CEV, our total deployment target is fully safe harbor, securing its future size benefits.
Speaker #2: Together, these investments support our 7% to 9% long-term initiative growth target, while maintaining a solid balance sheet, as discussed in the next slide. On slide 13, we highlight the strengths of our balance sheet.
Speaker #2: Strong cash generation across our businesses translates into an adjusted FFO to adjusted debt ratio that's projected to remain around 20% for the next five years.
Roberto Bel: Strong cash generation across our businesses translates into an adjusted FFO to adjusted debt ratio that's projected to remain around 20% for the next five years. Energy services outperformance this quarter provides meaningful additional cash flow, enhances our ability to manage capital spending and maintain strong credit metrics, and reinforces that we have no need for block equity in the foreseeable future. Additionally, ample liquidity and a well-levered debt maturity profile minimize near-term refinancing risk and preserve financial flexibility. Finally, as a result of the outperformance from energy services during the winter today, we're raising our NFEPS guidance range by $0.25 to a higher range of $3.28 to $3.43 per share. We're also revising our expected segment NFEPS contribution percentages as a result of this outperformance.
Strong cash generation across our businesses translates into an adjusted FFO to adjusted debt ratio that's projected to remain around 20% for the next five years. Energy services outperformance this quarter provides meaningful additional cash flow, enhances our ability to manage capital spending and maintain strong credit metrics, and reinforces that we have no need for block equity in the foreseeable future. Additionally, ample liquidity and a well-levered debt maturity profile minimize near-term refinancing risk and preserve financial flexibility. Finally, as a result of the outperformance from energy services during the winter today, we're raising our NFEPS guidance range by $0.25 to a higher range of $3.28 to $3.43 per share. We're also revising our expected segment NFEPS contribution percentages as a result of this outperformance.
Speaker #2: Energy services outperformance this quarter provides meaningful additional cash flow, enhances our ability to manage capital spending and maintain strong credit metrics, and reinforces that we have no need for stock equity in the foreseeable future.
Speaker #2: Additionally, ample liquidity and a well-laddered debt maturity profile minimize near-term refinancing risk and preserve financial flexibility. And finally, as a result of the outperformance from energy services during the winter to date, we're raising our NFEPS guidance range by $0.25 to a higher range of $3.28 to $3.43 per share.
Speaker #2: We're also revising our expected segment NFEPS contribution percentages as a result of this outperformance. The utility will remain the majority of the company's NFEPS for fiscal 2026.
Roberto Bel: The utility will remain the majority of the company's EBITDA for fiscal 2026, with energy services percentage rising as a result of capturing additional financial margin during this period of volatility. With that, I'll turn it back to Steve for concluding remarks on slide 15.
The utility will remain the majority of the company's EBITDA for fiscal 2026, with energy services percentage rising as a result of capturing additional financial margin during this period of volatility. With that, I'll turn it back to Steve for concluding remarks on slide 15.
Speaker #2: With energy services percentage rising as a result of capturing additional financial margin during this period of volatility. With that, I'll turn it back to Steve for concluding remarks on Slide 15.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Roberto. Last month, we issued NJR's fiscal 2025 Corporate Sustainability Report, which reflects our commitment to transparency with our stakeholders. The focus of this year's report is appropriately on affordability.
Steve Westhoven: Thanks, Roberto. Last month, we issued NJR's fiscal 2025 corporate sustainability report, which reflects our commitment to transparency with our stakeholders. The focus of this year's report is appropriately on affordability. The report brings greater detail around our energy efficiency and customer assistance efforts. Lower natural gas prices are effectively helping to reduce overall household energy costs, an important factor when addressing affordability. As many of you know, New Jersey welcomed a new governor last month. Governor Sherrill moved quickly to outline her priorities, signing two executive orders aimed at addressing rising electric utility costs and New Jersey's broader energy supply challenges. These actions are consistent with what she emphasized during the campaign, focusing on affordability for customers.
Steve Westhoven: Thanks, Roberto. Last month, we issued NJR's fiscal 2025 corporate sustainability report, which reflects our commitment to transparency with our stakeholders. The focus of this year's report is appropriately on affordability. The report brings greater detail around our energy efficiency and customer assistance efforts. Lower natural gas prices are effectively helping to reduce overall household energy costs, an important factor when addressing affordability. As many of you know, New Jersey welcomed a new governor last month. Governor Sherrill moved quickly to outline her priorities, signing two executive orders aimed at addressing rising electric utility costs and New Jersey's broader energy supply challenges. These actions are consistent with what she emphasized during the campaign, focusing on affordability for customers.
Speaker #3: The report brings greater detail around our energy efficiency and customer assistance efforts. Lower natural gas prices are effectively helping to reduce overall household energy costs, an important factor when addressing affordability.
Speaker #3: As many of you know, New Jersey welcomed a new governor last month. Governor Sheryl moved quickly to outline our priorities, signing two executive orders aimed at addressing rising electric utility costs and New Jersey's broader energy supply challenges.
Speaker #3: These actions are consistent with what she emphasized during the campaign, focusing on affordability for customers. These discussions are an important issue for the state, and we look forward to continuing our dialogue and working with the new administration to help drive solutions forward while growing our business.
Steve Westhoven: These discussions are an important issue for the state, and we look forward to continuing our dialogue and working with the new administration to help drive solutions forward while growing our business. To conclude, our long-term growth remains anchored by our regulated utility with clear visibility into capital spending at New Jersey Natural Gas. Our top priority is making sure our system operates reliably when it's needed most. Storage and transportation is set for accelerated growth, with earnings expected to more than double in the near term before we begin to factor in capacity expansions at Leaf River. Over the next two years, Clean Energy Ventures expects 50% increase in installed capacity, and our project pipeline is secured into the future through proactive Safe Harboring. Overall, the momentum across all of our businesses reinforces our confidence in the path ahead.
These discussions are an important issue for the state, and we look forward to continuing our dialogue and working with the new administration to help drive solutions forward while growing our business. To conclude, our long-term growth remains anchored by our regulated utility with clear visibility into capital spending at New Jersey Natural Gas. Our top priority is making sure our system operates reliably when it's needed most. Storage and transportation is set for accelerated growth, with earnings expected to more than double in the near term before we begin to factor in capacity expansions at Leaf River. Over the next two years, Clean Energy Ventures expects 50% increase in installed capacity, and our project pipeline is secured into the future through proactive Safe Harboring. Overall, the momentum across all of our businesses reinforces our confidence in the path ahead.
Speaker #3: To conclude, our long-term growth remains anchored by our regulated utility, with clear visibility into capital spending at New Jersey Natural Gas. Our top priority is making sure our system operates reliably when it's needed most.
Speaker #3: Storage and transportation is set for accelerated growth, with earnings expected to more than double in the near term before we begin to factor in capacity expansions at Leaf River.
Speaker #3: Over the next two years, clean energy ventures expect 50% increase in installed capacity and our project pipeline is secured into the future through proactive safe harboring.
Speaker #3: Overall, the momentum across all of our businesses reinforces our confidence in the path ahead. And finally, I want to thank everyone again, our NJR employees, for your dedication and hard work.
Steve Westhoven: Finally, I want to thank everyone again, our NJR employees, for your dedication and hard work. With that, let's open up the line for questions.
Finally, I want to thank everyone again, our NJR employees, for your dedication and hard work. With that, let's open up the line for questions.
Speaker #3: So with that, let's open up the line for questions.
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Speaker #4: ahead. Hey, good morning
Gabriel Moreen: Hey, good morning, everybody.
Gabriel Moreen: Hey, good morning, everybody.
Speaker #5: Everybody, I guess the story says that—hey, I guess the story was so good you had to tell it twice. So I wanted to start off on energy services. Clearly, outstanding performance here.
Steve Westhoven: Hey.
Steve Westhoven: Hey.
Gabriel Moreen: I guess the story said that—Hey, I guess the story was so good, you have to tell it twice. I wanted to start off on energy services. Clearly outstanding performance here. It's supposed to be single-digit weather again, up and down the Eastern Seaboard this upcoming weekend for a couple of days. Can you just talk about, to the extent, your revision here may capture weather events for the rest of the quarter, or there's the potential for further upside should, you know, volatility continue to materialize?
Gabriel Moreen: I guess the story said that—Hey, I guess the story was so good, you have to tell it twice. I wanted to start off on energy services. Clearly outstanding performance here. It's supposed to be single-digit weather again, up and down the Eastern Seaboard this upcoming weekend for a couple of days. Can you just talk about, to the extent, your revision here may capture weather events for the rest of the quarter, or there's the potential for further upside should, you know, volatility continue to materialize?
Speaker #5: It's supposed to be single-digit weather again up and down the eastern seaboard this upcoming weekend for a couple of days. Can you just talk about to the extent your revision here may capture weather events for the rest of the quarter or there's the potential for further upside should volatility continue to
Speaker #5: materialize? Yeah, thanks, Steve.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah. Thanks, Gabe. Thanks for the question. Yeah, sorry about the double repeat there. Yeah, the energy services group, and, you know, our guidance that we issued last night, based on, you know, results to date or, you know, kind of our estimates through the end of January. So obviously, we've got a lot of fiscal year that's left and, you know, not able to incorporate events that haven't happened yet. So, you know, we'll see how those, you know, continue to play out. But certainly, you know, January was obviously very constructive, you know, for our results here at NJR.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah. Thanks, Gabe. Thanks for the question. Yeah, sorry about the double repeat there. Yeah, the energy services group, and, you know, our guidance that we issued last night, based on, you know, results to date or, you know, kind of our estimates through the end of January. So obviously, we've got a lot of fiscal year that's left and, you know, not able to incorporate events that haven't happened yet. So, you know, we'll see how those, you know, continue to play out. But certainly, you know, January was obviously very constructive, you know, for our results here at NJR.
Speaker #6: Thanks for the question. Yeah, sorry about the double repeat there. Yeah, the energy services group and our guidance that we issued last night based on results to date or kind of our estimates through the end of January.
Speaker #6: So obviously, we've got a lot of fiscal year that's left and not able to incorporate events that haven't happened yet. So we'll see how those continue to play out.
Speaker #6: But certainly, January was obviously very constructive for our results here at NJR.
Speaker #5: Thanks, Steve. And maybe if I can follow up on S&T. The capacity going from 43 to 55, I just want to confirm you've got contracts for that portion of the expansion.
Gabriel Moreen: Thanks, Steve. And maybe if I can follow up on S&P. You know, the capacity going from 43 to 55, I just want to confirm you've got contracts for that portion of the expansion. And then also, but maybe if you'd also speak to some of the blue-sky opportunities around expanding beyond the 55. Are you getting reverse customer inquiries? Is there potential for that capacity growth to accelerate, either in size or timeline? And then also, are the economics there? You talked last quarter about some of the economics behind your contracts and how that stepped up, but are those supportive now, in your mind, of full greenfield development around your-- around Leaf River?
Gabriel Moreen: Thanks, Steve. And maybe if I can follow up on S&P. You know, the capacity going from 43 to 55, I just want to confirm you've got contracts for that portion of the expansion. And then also, but maybe if you'd also speak to some of the blue-sky opportunities around expanding beyond the 55. Are you getting reverse customer inquiries? Is there potential for that capacity growth to accelerate, either in size or timeline? And then also, are the economics there? You talked last quarter about some of the economics behind your contracts and how that stepped up, but are those supportive now, in your mind, of full greenfield development around your-- around Leaf River?
Speaker #5: And then also, but maybe if you'd also speak to some of the blue sky opportunities around expanding beyond the 55, are you getting reverse customer inquiries?
Speaker #5: Is there potential for that capacity growth to accelerate either in size or timeline? And then also, are the economics, are you talked last quarter about some of the economics behind your contracts and how that's stepped up, but are those supportive now in your mind of full greenfield development around Leaf River?
Speaker #6: Yeah, so the whole story at Leaf River, we're going to double earnings and that's largely through contract uprates at Delta Gateway and Leaf River through 27 through 2027.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah. So, you know, the whole story at Leaf River, you know, we're going to double our earnings, and that's largely through, you know, contract upgrades at Adelphia Gateway and Leaf River through 27, you know, through 2027. The FERC filing, you know, shows, you know, compression expansion, existing cavern expansion, and then a fourth cavern expansion, which is what you're referring to from the, you know, approximately 43 to the 55, you know, Bcf. So what we have contracted for now and what we're talking about on today's call is that, compression expansion and existing capacity expansion. That fourth cavern, we do not have contracts for yet, but as you can imagine, you know, the market has been very constructive, but we're still, you know, working through that.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah. So, you know, the whole story at Leaf River, you know, we're going to double our earnings, and that's largely through, you know, contract upgrades at Adelphia Gateway and Leaf River through 27, you know, through 2027. The FERC filing, you know, shows, you know, compression expansion, existing cavern expansion, and then a fourth cavern expansion, which is what you're referring to from the, you know, approximately 43 to the 55, you know, Bcf. So what we have contracted for now and what we're talking about on today's call is that, compression expansion and existing capacity expansion. That fourth cavern, we do not have contracts for yet, but as you can imagine, you know, the market has been very constructive, but we're still, you know, working through that.
Speaker #6: The first filing shows compression, expansion, existing cavern expansion, and then a fourth cavern expansion, which is what you were referring to—from approximately 43 to 55 Bcf.
Speaker #6: So what we have contracted for now and what we were talking about on today's call is that compression expansion and existing capacity expansion. That fourth cavern, we do not have contracts for yet, but as you can imagine, the market has been very constructive but we're still working through that.
Speaker #6: We held an open season and certainly like I said, constructive to that point of expanding going forward. There is additional expansion both at Adelphia Gateway and at Leaf River, but on what we've talked about here today, we'll continue to work the markets and see what they're willing to pay for.
Steve Westhoven: We held an open season and certainly, like I said, constructive to that point of expanding going forward. There is additional expansion, you know, both at Adelphia Gateway and at Leaf River, but on what we've talked about here today, you know, we'll continue to work, you know, the markets and see what they're willing to pay for. Remember, you know, we get signed contracts, and then those will essentially drive, you know, our investment at those facilities. So we'll back-to-back those, and as those come in, you know, we'll certainly share it, you know, with our investors.
We held an open season and certainly, like I said, constructive to that point of expanding going forward. There is additional expansion, you know, both at Adelphia Gateway and at Leaf River, but on what we've talked about here today, you know, we'll continue to work, you know, the markets and see what they're willing to pay for. Remember, you know, we get signed contracts, and then those will essentially drive, you know, our investment at those facilities. So we'll back-to-back those, and as those come in, you know, we'll certainly share it, you know, with our investors.
Speaker #6: Remember, if we get signed contracts and then those will essentially drive our investment at those facilities. So we'll back to back those. And as those come in, we'll certainly share it with our investors.
Steve Westhoven: But you know, good news to date, and certainly the market and even recent conditions, you know, drive for the need for more storage and capacity in the Northeast, Southeast, you know, really all over the US.
Speaker #6: But good news to date, and certainly the market and even recent conditions drive for the need for more storage and capacity in the Northeast, Southeast, really all over the—
But you know, good news to date, and certainly the market and even recent conditions, you know, drive for the need for more storage and capacity in the Northeast, Southeast, you know, really all over the US.
Speaker #6: US.
Gabriel Moreen: Thanks, Steve. Appreciate it.
Gabriel Moreen: Thanks, Steve. Appreciate it.
Speaker #5: Appreciate it.
Speaker #4: Your next question comes from the line of Eli Yosem of JP Morgan. Please go ahead.
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Speaker #7: Hey, good morning everyone. Just want to start on the evolving regulatory backdrop. So how should we think about the New Jersey affordability efforts that we highlighted in the release?
Eli Yosen: Hey, good morning, everyone. Just wanted to start on the evolving regulatory backdrop. So how should we think about the New Jersey affordability efforts that you highlighted in the release, you know, particularly as it pertains to future rate case filings and the overall regulatory strategy at the utility? Thanks.
Eli Jossen: Hey, good morning, everyone. Just wanted to start on the evolving regulatory backdrop. So how should we think about the New Jersey affordability efforts that you highlighted in the release, you know, particularly as it pertains to future rate case filings and the overall regulatory strategy at the utility? Thanks.
Speaker #7: Particularly as it pertains to future rate case filings, any overall regulatory strategy at the utility? Thanks.
Steve Westhoven: Thanks, Eli. Yeah, and, you know, affordability has always been important, you know, for us at NJR. You know, we talked in our narrative about, you know, the way that we hedge our gas, you know, driving energy efficiency, you know, reducing customer usage in order to lower their bills, you know, energy assistance, you know, for those that need it. So that's not, that's not a new narrative for us. You know, we'll continue, you know, to drive that forward. Remember, you know, we completed a rate case which went into effect about, about 14 months ago or so, 15 months ago or so. So we don't, we don't have any pressing needs to jump into the regulatory process. You know, we're going to continue to, you know, work with the administration, take advantage of the opportunities that will present themselves.
Steve Westhoven: Thanks, Eli. Yeah, and, you know, affordability has always been important, you know, for us at NJR. You know, we talked in our narrative about, you know, the way that we hedge our gas, you know, driving energy efficiency, you know, reducing customer usage in order to lower their bills, you know, energy assistance, you know, for those that need it. So that's not, that's not a new narrative for us. You know, we'll continue, you know, to drive that forward. Remember, you know, we completed a rate case which went into effect about, about 14 months ago or so, 15 months ago or so. So we don't, we don't have any pressing needs to jump into the regulatory process. You know, we're going to continue to, you know, work with the administration, take advantage of the opportunities that will present themselves.
Speaker #6: Thanks, Eli. Yeah, affordability has always been important for us at NJR. We talked in our narrative about the way that we've hedged our gas driving energy efficiency, reducing customer usage in order to lower their bills.
Speaker #6: Energy assistance for those that need it. So that's not a new narrative for us. We'll continue to drive that forward. Remember, we completed a rate case which went into effect about 14 months ago or so, 15 months ago or so.
Speaker #6: to jump into the regulatory So we don't have any pressing needs process. We're going to continue to work with the administration to take advantages of the opportunities that will present themselves.
Steve Westhoven: You know, we do have capacity needs that are clearly stated, you know, in the state of New Jersey, and we're going to work proactively with the administration to achieve our shared goals. So, you know, that's the way that we're looking at it.
You know, we do have capacity needs that are clearly stated, you know, in the state of New Jersey, and we're going to work proactively with the administration to achieve our shared goals. So, you know, that's the way that we're looking at it.
Speaker #6: We do have capacity needs that are clearly stated in the state of New Jersey. And we're going to work proactively with the administration to achieve our shared goals so that's the way that we're looking at it.
Speaker #6: We do have capacity needs that are clearly stated in the state of New Jersey. And we're going to work proactively with the administration to achieve our shared goals so that's the way that we're looking at it.
Speaker #7: Awesome. But then maybe just pivoting more towards the second executive order, EO2, and the opportunity set that it offers you at CEV. Can you just talk about the plan for that business moving forward, thinking about the backlog of installs that you guys have and the safe harboring?
Chris Ellinghaus: ... Awesome. But then, you know, maybe just pivoting more towards the second executive order, EO two, and the opportunity set that it offers you at CEV. Can you just talk about the, you know, the plan for that business moving forward, thinking about, you know, the, the backlog of installs that you guys have and, and, you know, the safe harboring? I know you, you're kind of substantially through that, but just the outlook for that segment and, and whether or not there's any impact from recent regulation or legislation. Thanks.
Eli Jossen: ... Awesome. But then, you know, maybe just pivoting more towards the second executive order, EO two, and the opportunity set that it offers you at CEV. Can you just talk about the, you know, the plan for that business moving forward, thinking about, you know, the, the backlog of installs that you guys have and, and, you know, the safe harboring? I know you, you're kind of substantially through that, but just the outlook for that segment and, and whether or not there's any impact from recent regulation or legislation. Thanks.
Speaker #7: I know you're kind of substantially through that, but just the outlook for that segment and whether or not there's any impact from recent regulation or legislation.
Speaker #7: Thanks.
Speaker #6: Yeah, it's
Steve Westhoven: Yeah, it's encouraging. You know, thanks for asking the question. You know, permit reform, you know, ways to accelerate interconnects, ways to accelerate our ability to develop, you know, our safe harbor assets in the state of New Jersey are the quickest capacity that can be brought to market. So all those things are encouraging. You know, we're going to work with the administration. You know, they've got some work to do in order to effectuate all that. But, you know, those tailwinds are clearly in the making in order to develop more. And, you know, when we are able to achieve, you know, some evidence that we're able to move forward, then we'll certainly share that with the investing community.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah, it's encouraging. You know, thanks for asking the question. You know, permit reform, you know, ways to accelerate interconnects, ways to accelerate our ability to develop, you know, our safe harbor assets in the state of New Jersey are the quickest capacity that can be brought to market. So all those things are encouraging. You know, we're going to work with the administration. You know, they've got some work to do in order to effectuate all that. But, you know, those tailwinds are clearly in the making in order to develop more. And, you know, when we are able to achieve, you know, some evidence that we're able to move forward, then we'll certainly share that with the investing community.
Speaker #6: Encouraging. Thanks for asking the question. Permit reform, ways to accelerate interconnects, ways to accelerate our ability to develop our safe-harbored assets in the state of New Jersey.
Speaker #6: They are the quickest capacity that can be brought to market, so all those things are encouraging. We're going to work with the administration, but they've got some work to do in order to effectuate all that.
Speaker #6: But those tailwinds are clearly in the making. In order to develop more, and when we are able to achieve some evidence that we're able to move forward, then we'll certainly share that with the investing community.
Speaker #7: Awesome. I'll leave it there.
Chris Ellinghaus: Awesome. All good. Thanks.
Eli Jossen: Awesome. All good. Thanks.
Speaker #7: Thanks. Your next question comes
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Julien Dumoulin-Smith of Jefferies. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Julien Dumoulin-Smith of Jefferies. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: From the line of Julian Dumoulin-Smith of Jefferies. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: ahead. Hi guys.
James Ward: Hi, guys. We've actually got, James Ward on here for Julien. How are you?
James Ward: Hi, guys. We've actually got, James Ward on here for Julien. How are you?
Speaker #8: We actually got James Ward on here for Julian. How are
Speaker #8: you? Hey,
Steve Westhoven: Hello, Jamie.
Steve Westhoven: Hello, Jamie.
Speaker #8: Hey, James. Great color. You're giving on affordability, the executive orders, so I really appreciate that. As well, on the fourth cavern, heading to 55 Bcf.
James Ward: Hey, great color that you've given on affordability, the executive orders, so on. Really appreciate that. As well, on the fourth cavern, heading to 55 Bcf. You mentioned not having contracts yet, but can you characterize the level of commercial interest you're seeing? Give us a sense of the expected capital intensity relative to the existing expansion. Maybe help us think about the timing of any associated earnings contribution. Kind of helps give clarity on the longer-term run right into 2029, 2030, and so on. Thank you.
James Ward: Hey, great color that you've given on affordability, the executive orders, so on. Really appreciate that. As well, on the fourth cavern, heading to 55 Bcf. You mentioned not having contracts yet, but can you characterize the level of commercial interest you're seeing? Give us a sense of the expected capital intensity relative to the existing expansion. Maybe help us think about the timing of any associated earnings contribution. Kind of helps give clarity on the longer-term run right into 2029, 2030, and so on. Thank you.
Speaker #8: You mentioned not having contracts yet, but can you characterize the level of commercial interest you're seeing? Give us a sense of the expected capital intensity relative to the existing expansion.
Speaker #8: Maybe help us think about the timing of any associated earnings contribution. Kind of helps give clarity on the longer-term run, right, into '29, '30, and so on.
Speaker #8: Thank you.
Speaker #6: Yeah, I think the open seasons that we've had to date have been constructive. The things that we need to do in order to be able to turn those open seasons and the pricing and the terms into an agreement that we can then turn it and build upon.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah, I think the, you know, the open seasons that we've had to date have been, you know, constructive. You know, the things that we need to do are to be able to turn, you know, those open seasons and the pricing and the terms into an agreement that we can then, you know, turn it and build upon. You know, right now, you know, the, the timing is perfect. You know, we're able to put in the compression. We can expand our existing facilities. You know, that obviously that more brownfield expansion a little bit cheaper to come to market than a greenfield. But the pricing we're seeing, you know, gives us confidence that being able to, you know, develop this fourth cavern, you know, is certainly, you know, possible in the future, and we're working towards that.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah, I think the, you know, the open seasons that we've had to date have been, you know, constructive. You know, the things that we need to do are to be able to turn, you know, those open seasons and the pricing and the terms into an agreement that we can then, you know, turn it and build upon. You know, right now, you know, the, the timing is perfect. You know, we're able to put in the compression. We can expand our existing facilities. You know, that obviously that more brownfield expansion a little bit cheaper to come to market than a greenfield. But the pricing we're seeing, you know, gives us confidence that being able to, you know, develop this fourth cavern, you know, is certainly, you know, possible in the future, and we're working towards that.
Speaker #6: Right now, the timing is perfect. We're able to put in the compression. We can expand our existing facilities. That obviously, that more brownfield expansion a little bit cheaper to come to market than a greenfield.
Speaker #6: But the pricing we're seeing gives us confidence that being able to develop this fourth cavern is certainly possible in the future. And we're working towards that.
Steve Westhoven: You know, as far as timelines go, you know, we've already said, you know, we're going to double earnings through 2027. Then, you know, we're working, you know, after we get our first certificate, construction through the facility. So then you see, you know, the existing cavern expansion and capacity, you know, come to market with that matching contract in, like, a 2028 timeframe. And then fourth cavern expansion as this market develops, you know, like I said, you know, certainly recent events are supportive. Looks like a, you know, 2029 timeframe, you know, starting construction obviously sometime prior to that. So we'll have to, you know, we'll see how that ends up playing out.
You know, as far as timelines go, you know, we've already said, you know, we're going to double earnings through 2027. Then, you know, we're working, you know, after we get our first certificate, construction through the facility. So then you see, you know, the existing cavern expansion and capacity, you know, come to market with that matching contract in, like, a 2028 timeframe. And then fourth cavern expansion as this market develops, you know, like I said, you know, certainly recent events are supportive. Looks like a, you know, 2029 timeframe, you know, starting construction obviously sometime prior to that. So we'll have to, you know, we'll see how that ends up playing out.
Speaker #6: As far as timelines go, we've already 2027. said we're going to double earnings through Then we're working after we get our first certificate construction through the facility so then you see the existing cavern expansion and capacity come to market with that matching contract in like the 2028 timeframe.
Speaker #6: And then fourth cavern expansion as this market develops, like I said, certainly recent events are supportive looks like 2029 timeframe. Starting construction obviously sometime prior to that.
Speaker #6: So we'll have to we'll see how that ends up playing out. But like I said, the open seasons recent market volatility all points towards the need for more storage in that area.
Steve Westhoven: But, like I said, the open seasons, recent market, you know, volatility, all points towards the need for more storage in that area, and know that we're pursuing that aggressively.
But, like I said, the open seasons, recent market, you know, volatility, all points towards the need for more storage in that area, and know that we're pursuing that aggressively.
Speaker #6: And know that we're pursuing that.
Speaker #6: aggressively. That's great.
James Ward: That's great. Thank you very much. Another really strong start to the year, guys. Impressive. Thanks a lot. Back in the game.
James Ward: That's great. Thank you very much. Another really strong start to the year, guys. Impressive. Thanks a lot. Back in the game.
Speaker #8: Thank you very much. Another really strong start to the year, guys. Impressive. Thanks a lot. Back in the game.
Steve Westhoven: Thanks, James.
Steve Westhoven: Thanks, James.
Speaker #6: Thanks, James.
Speaker #4: Your next question comes from the line of Chris Ellinghouse of Seabird Williams Shank. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Chris Ellinghaus of Siebert Williams Shank. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Chris Ellinghaus of Siebert Williams Shank. Please go ahead.
Speaker #4: ahead. Hey, good morning,
Chris Ellinghaus: Hey, good morning, everybody. Another great quarter. Thanks. Steve, can you talk about sort of this, what you're seeing in the solar pipeline outside of New Jersey and, and sort of given the EOs, you know, has that changed your thought process about sort of geographic diversity at this point?
Chris Ellinghaus: Hey, good morning, everybody. Another great quarter. Thanks. Steve, can you talk about sort of this, what you're seeing in the solar pipeline outside of New Jersey and, and sort of given the EOs, you know, has that changed your thought process about sort of geographic diversity at this point?
Speaker #8: everybody. Another great quarter. Thanks. Steve, can you talk about sort of this what you're seeing in the solar pipeline outside of New Jersey and sort of given the EOs?
Speaker #8: Has that changed your thought process about sort of geographic diversity at this point?
Speaker #6: Yeah. I mean, we're still moving forward. We've got about, I guess, 50% of our forward-looking projects are outside the state of New Jersey, 50% obviously inside the state of New Jersey.
Steve Westhoven: No, I mean, we're still moving forward. You know, we've got about, I guess, 50% of our forward-looking projects are outside the state of New Jersey, 50%, obviously, inside the state of New Jersey. You know, we're continuing to pursue projects that, you know, meet our rate of return and, you know, build in, you know, an area that it's friendly from a regulatory perspective. And there's a number of states that are around us that are friendly from a regulatory perspective. So, you know, we see those markets continuing. And remember, PJM is big, right? And, you know, certainly any power grid isn't independent from those adjacent to it. You got a capacity shortage in one, it usually means there's capacity shortage in others.
Steve Westhoven: No, I mean, we're still moving forward. You know, we've got about, I guess, 50% of our forward-looking projects are outside the state of New Jersey, 50%, obviously, inside the state of New Jersey. You know, we're continuing to pursue projects that, you know, meet our rate of return and, you know, build in, you know, an area that it's friendly from a regulatory perspective. And there's a number of states that are around us that are friendly from a regulatory perspective. So, you know, we see those markets continuing. And remember, PJM is big, right? And, you know, certainly any power grid isn't independent from those adjacent to it. You got a capacity shortage in one, it usually means there's capacity shortage in others.
Speaker #6: We're continuing to pursue projects that meet our rate of return. And build in an area that it's friendly from a regulatory perspective. And there's a number of states that are around us that are friendly from a regulatory perspective.
Speaker #6: So we see those markets continuing. And remember, PJM is big, right? And certainly any power grid is an independent from those adjacent to it.
Speaker #6: You've got a capacity shortage in one, it usually means there's a capacity shortage in others. So, this trend and the ability to quickly bring solar capacity to market—more quickly than other forms, like nuclear or some larger gas-fired generations and instances like that.
Steve Westhoven: So, you know, this trend and the ability to quickly bring, you know, solar capacity to market, you know, more quickly than, you know, other forms, you know, nuclear, you know, some larger gas-fired generations, and instances like that, you know, is important. So while these are constructive, you couple on, you know, the EO and potential permitting reform and things like that, you know, hopefully we see some acceleration, you know, in the near future, trying to solve this problem of being short capacity in the short term.
So, you know, this trend and the ability to quickly bring, you know, solar capacity to market, you know, more quickly than, you know, other forms, you know, nuclear, you know, some larger gas-fired generations, and instances like that, you know, is important. So while these are constructive, you couple on, you know, the EO and potential permitting reform and things like that, you know, hopefully we see some acceleration, you know, in the near future, trying to solve this problem of being short capacity in the short term.
Speaker #6: It's important. So all these are constructive. You couple on the EO and potential permitting reform and things like that. Hopefully, we see some acceleration in the near future trying to solve this problem of being short capacity in the short term.
Speaker #8: Okay. As far as storage and transmission goes, the growth is great. Can you outside of the Adelphia Gateway outcome, can you sort of give us any color vis-à-vis sort of the proportionality of the recontracting price improvement versus say the capacity?
Chris Ellinghaus: Okay. As far as storage and transmission goes, the growth is great. Can, can you-- outside of the Adelphia Gateway outcome-... You know, can you sort of give us any color vis-a-vis the sort of the proportionality of the recontracting price improvement versus, say, the capacity? I think it's slide eight. You know, what-- how do-- how should we think about the timing of the growth to the new target, you know, price versus volume?
Chris Ellinghaus: Okay. As far as storage and transmission goes, the growth is great. Can, can you-- outside of the Adelphia Gateway outcome-... You know, can you sort of give us any color vis-a-vis the sort of the proportionality of the recontracting price improvement versus, say, the capacity? I think it's slide eight. You know, what-- how do-- how should we think about the timing of the growth to the new target, you know, price versus volume?
Speaker #8: I think it's slide 8. What how should we think about the timing of the growth to the new target price versus
Speaker #6: Yeah. It's hard to kind of differentiate that, but I think it's pretty clear if you go back to what our historical earnings are, we're going to double earnings from that segment by 2027.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah, I, you know, it's hard to kind of differentiate that, but I think it's, you know, pretty clear, if you go back to what our historical earnings are, we're going to double earnings from that segment by 2027. You know, in that is, you know, quite a bit of recontracting. You know, when purchasing Leaf River, you know, part of our investment thesis that, you know, storage rates were going to go up, and you see that being executed. Adelphia Gateway, you know, like a normal interstate pipeline, going through rate cases, being able to, you know, raise rates to reflect capital that was invested on the pipeline in the future, you know, certainly being reflected as well.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah, I, you know, it's hard to kind of differentiate that, but I think it's, you know, pretty clear, if you go back to what our historical earnings are, we're going to double earnings from that segment by 2027. You know, in that is, you know, quite a bit of recontracting. You know, when purchasing Leaf River, you know, part of our investment thesis that, you know, storage rates were going to go up, and you see that being executed. Adelphia Gateway, you know, like a normal interstate pipeline, going through rate cases, being able to, you know, raise rates to reflect capital that was invested on the pipeline in the future, you know, certainly being reflected as well.
Speaker #6: And in that is quite a bit of recontracting. When purchasing Leaf River, part of our investment thesis is that storage rates were going to go up, and you see that being executed.
Speaker #6: Adelphia Gateway, like a normal interstate pipeline going through rate cases, being able to raise rates to reflect capital that was invested on the pipeline in the future.
Speaker #6: Certainly being reflected as well. I think this recent weather event continues to reinforce how short our region is. And we're already talking about that from an electric perspective.
Steve Westhoven: You know, I think, you know, this recent weather event continues to reinforce, you know, how short our region is, and we're already talking about that from an electric perspective, you know, for quite some time. So this infrastructure, very needed. The easiest way to expand infrastructure is to expand already existing infrastructure, which we have in both, you know, Southeast and Leaf River, Adelphia Gateway in the Northeast. So we continue to look at ways to expand that as well in order to grow. So we've got our capital plans are out there that'll give you what we're, you know, very certain we're going to be able to execute.
You know, I think, you know, this recent weather event continues to reinforce, you know, how short our region is, and we're already talking about that from an electric perspective, you know, for quite some time. So this infrastructure, very needed. The easiest way to expand infrastructure is to expand already existing infrastructure, which we have in both, you know, Southeast and Leaf River, Adelphia Gateway in the Northeast. So we continue to look at ways to expand that as well in order to grow. So we've got our capital plans are out there that'll give you what we're, you know, very certain we're going to be able to execute.
Speaker #6: For quite some time. So this infrastructure is very needed the easiest way to expand infrastructure is to expand already existing infrastructure. Which we have in both southeastern Leaf River, Adelphia Gateway, and the northeast.
Speaker #6: So, we continue to look at ways to expand that as well in order to grow. So, we've got our capital plans that are out there.
Speaker #6: That'll give you what we're very certain we're going to be able to execute. And I think other factors like the ones I just mentioned are additive.
Steve Westhoven: And I think, you know, other factors, like the ones I just mentioned, are additive, so we're going to continue to work on those, and then we'll share those when they come to fruition.
And I think, you know, other factors, like the ones I just mentioned, are additive, so we're going to continue to work on those, and then we'll share those when they come to fruition.
Speaker #6: So we're going to continue to work on those, and then we'll share those when they come to fruition.
Speaker #8: Okay, great. Steve, you had sort of alluded to CEV having some technology opportunities for upside. Can you elaborate on that a little bit?
Chris Ellinghaus: Okay, great. Steve, you had sort of alluded to CEV having some technology opportunities for upside. Can you elaborate on that a little bit?
Chris Ellinghaus: Okay, great. Steve, you had sort of alluded to CEV having some technology opportunities for upside. Can you elaborate on that a little bit?
Speaker #6: Yeah. We don't have a number of grid-connected facilities. Those interconnections are very valuable. Being able to use those at a much higher load factor through distributed generation, battery power—those all bring capacity to the grid.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah. You know, we own, you know, a number of grid-connected facilities. You know, those interconnections are very valuable. Being able to use those at a much higher load factor through distributed generation, battery power, those all bring capacity to the grid, and you can bring capacity to the grid in that way, you know, very quickly. And, you know, being able to deploy capacity quickly is exactly what the market needs. So now it's just a matter of, you know, how do we put together the regulatory constructs, aligned with the economics of being able to make the investments to make all this work? But we think we've got a leg up because we have brownfield, you know, infrastructure, right? Infrastructure that's already in place.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah. You know, we own, you know, a number of grid-connected facilities. You know, those interconnections are very valuable. Being able to use those at a much higher load factor through distributed generation, battery power, those all bring capacity to the grid, and you can bring capacity to the grid in that way, you know, very quickly. And, you know, being able to deploy capacity quickly is exactly what the market needs. So now it's just a matter of, you know, how do we put together the regulatory constructs, aligned with the economics of being able to make the investments to make all this work? But we think we've got a leg up because we have brownfield, you know, infrastructure, right? Infrastructure that's already in place.
Speaker #6: And you can bring capacity to the grid in that way. Very quickly. And being able to deploy capacity quickly is exactly what the market needs.
Speaker #6: So now, it's just a matter of how do we put together the regulatory constructs aligned with the economics of being able to make the investments to make all this work.
Speaker #6: But we think we've got a leg up because we have brownfield infrastructure, right? Infrastructure that's already in place, the ability to expand without the need to build pure greenfield.
Steve Westhoven: The ability to expand, without the need to build, you know, pure greenfield, gives us that advantage, and it should make us some first mover in this space. So those are the things we're thinking about and, and certainly trying to drive forward. Again, all those things are outside of our plan, so that would be upside to our plan. So our plans show exactly what we know is going to, you know, we're make the investments on. Outside of the plan are the things that we're talking about here, you know, forward vision and, and what we're trying to drive as a management team to execute.
The ability to expand, without the need to build, you know, pure greenfield, gives us that advantage, and it should make us some first mover in this space. So those are the things we're thinking about and, and certainly trying to drive forward. Again, all those things are outside of our plan, so that would be upside to our plan. So our plans show exactly what we know is going to, you know, we're make the investments on. Outside of the plan are the things that we're talking about here, you know, forward vision and, and what we're trying to drive as a management team to execute.
Speaker #6: That gives us that advantage, and it should make us a first mover in this space. So those are the things we're thinking about, and certainly trying to drive forward.
Speaker #6: Again, all those things are outside of our plans. So that would be upside to our plan. So our plans show exactly what we know is going to make the investments on outside of the plan are the things that we're talking about here.
Speaker #6: Forward vision and what we're trying to drive as a management team to execute.
Speaker #8: That sort of suggests some storage opportunities which are certainly high-ticket items. So that you sort of alluded to that possibility in terms of maybe some CapEx upside.
Chris Ellinghaus: That sort of suggests some storage opportunities, which are certainly high-ticket items. So you know, that you sort of alluded to that possibility in terms of maybe some CapEx upside. Is that what your thought process is?
Chris Ellinghaus: That sort of suggests some storage opportunities, which are certainly high-ticket items. So you know, that you sort of alluded to that possibility in terms of maybe some CapEx upside. Is that what your thought process is?
Speaker #8: Is that what your thought process is?
Speaker #6: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly it. Exactly
Steve Westhoven: Yeah. Yeah, exactly it. Exactly it.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah. Yeah, exactly it. Exactly it.
Speaker #6: it. Okay.
Chris Ellinghaus: Okay, one last question. Obviously, your hedging strategy has really paid off handsomely in Q1. You know, how do regulators fully appreciate the benefit that you bring there? And/or how do you sort of capitalize on that by, you know, reinforcing the value proposition that you bring with your hedging strategy?
Chris Ellinghaus: Okay, one last question. Obviously, your hedging strategy has really paid off handsomely in Q1. You know, how do regulators fully appreciate the benefit that you bring there? And/or how do you sort of capitalize on that by, you know, reinforcing the value proposition that you bring with your hedging strategy?
Speaker #8: One last question. Obviously, your hedging strategy has really paid off handsomely in the first quarter. Do regulators fully appreciate the benefit that you bring there?
Speaker #8: And/or, how do you sort of capitalize on that by reinforcing the value proposition that you bring with your hedging strategy?
Speaker #6: Yeah. I mean, the regulators were part of the construct in putting that together, so they certainly are aware of it. We talk about it, and we file our BGSS—that can be recognized.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah, I mean, the regulators were part of the construct in putting that together, so they certainly are aware of it. We talk about it, and, you know, we file our BGSS, you know, that can be recognized. You know, certainly they see, you know, our rates in the ground, you know, having an average price of storage of $2.27, when, you know, City Gate prices were over $100. You know, even if you look at some of the supplier pricing, $30, $40, you know, dollars down in those areas. Being able to avoid those purchases, you know, has a, has, you know, just a, a huge benefit to our customers, not having to pay spot prices for that natural gas. So yeah, they're certainly aware of it.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah, I mean, the regulators were part of the construct in putting that together, so they certainly are aware of it. We talk about it, and, you know, we file our BGSS, you know, that can be recognized. You know, certainly they see, you know, our rates in the ground, you know, having an average price of storage of $2.27, when, you know, City Gate prices were over $100. You know, even if you look at some of the supplier pricing, $30, $40, you know, dollars down in those areas. Being able to avoid those purchases, you know, has a, has, you know, just a, a huge benefit to our customers, not having to pay spot prices for that natural gas. So yeah, they're certainly aware of it.
Speaker #6: Certainly, they see our rates in the ground having an average price of storage of $2.27 when City Gate prices were over $100, even if you look at some of the supplier pricing 30, 40 dollars down in those areas.
Speaker #6: Being able to avoid those purchases has just a huge benefit to our customers. Not having to pay spot prices for that natural gas. So yeah, there's certainly aware of it.
Steve Westhoven: You know, we talk about it, and, you know, those programs are in place for a reason. They work and mitigate, you know, costs to our customers longer term.
You know, we talk about it, and, you know, those programs are in place for a reason. They work and mitigate, you know, costs to our customers longer term.
Speaker #6: We talk about it, and those programs are in place for a reason. They work, and mitigate costs to our customers longer term.
Speaker #8: All right. Thanks. I appreciate
Chris Ellinghaus: All right. Thanks, I appreciate it.
Chris Ellinghaus: All right. Thanks, I appreciate it.
Speaker #6: Thank you.
Steve Westhoven: Thank you.
Steve Westhoven: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Your next question comes from the line of Travis Miller of Morningstar. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Travis Miller of Morningstar. Please go ahead.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Travis Miller of Morningstar. Please go ahead.
Speaker #8: Good morning, everyone. Thank
Travis Miller: Good morning, everyone. Thank you.
Travis Miller: Good morning, everyone. Thank you.
Speaker #8: Thank you. Just a quick clarification on—
Steve Westhoven: Hi, Travis.
Steve Westhoven: Hi, Travis.
Speaker #6: Travis.
Travis Miller: Just a quick clarification on the guidance raise at $0.25. Was that all from what you're anticipating in Q2, or was there some of that in outperformance in Q1 relative to what you were expecting?
Travis Miller: Just a quick clarification on the guidance raise at $0.25. Was that all from what you're anticipating in Q2, or was there some of that in outperformance in Q1 relative to what you were expecting?
Speaker #8: the guidance raised. That 25 cents was that all from what you're anticipating in Q2, or was there some of that in outperformance in Q1 relative to what you were
Speaker #8: expecting? Yeah.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah, Travis, you know, we looked at our book, and we saw the performance in January and decided that it was significant enough to warrant a raise during this call. So really, this is an estimate, you know, through the end of January at this point.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah, Travis, you know, we looked at our book, and we saw the performance in January and decided that it was significant enough to warrant a raise during this call. So really, this is an estimate, you know, through the end of January at this point.
Speaker #6: Travis, we looked at our book, and we saw the performance in January. And decided that it was significant enough to warrant a raise during this call.
Speaker #6: So, really, this is an estimate through the end of January at this point.
Speaker #8: Okay. Okay. That's clear. And then in terms of CapEx for the contracted compression and existing expansion, when are we going to see that's not in your CapEx guidance right now.
Travis Miller: Okay. Okay, that's clear. And then in terms of CapEx for the contracted compression and existing expansion. When are we going to see that flow through? I'm assuming that's not in your CapEx guidance right now. So would we see that in the coming quarters?
Travis Miller: Okay. Okay, that's clear. And then in terms of CapEx for the contracted compression and existing expansion. When are we going to see that flow through? I'm assuming that's not in your CapEx guidance right now. So would we see that in the coming quarters?
Speaker #8: that flow through? I'm assuming So would we see that in the coming quarters?
Speaker #6: Yeah. It actually is in our CapEx guidance right now. So you'll see that on the schedule. There's an appendix schedule to what we posted last night.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah, it actually is in our CapEx guidance right now. So you'll see that on the schedule. There's an appendix schedule to what we posted last night, and you can go through that. So that is part of our capital schedule right now.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah, it actually is in our CapEx guidance right now. So you'll see that on the schedule. There's an appendix schedule to what we posted last night, and you can go through that. So that is part of our capital schedule right now.
Speaker #6: And you can go through that. So that is part of our capital schedule right now.
Speaker #8: Okay. For the Leaf River
Travis Miller: Okay. For the Leaf River line?
Travis Miller: Okay. For the Leaf River line?
Speaker #8: line? In 2027, I assume,
Speaker #6: That's
Steve Westhoven: That's right.
Steve Westhoven: That's right.
Speaker #6: right.
Travis Miller: In 2027, I assume, right?
Travis Miller: In 2027, I assume, right?
Speaker #8: right?
Steve Westhoven: Yes. 2026 and 2027.
Speaker #6: Yes. 2026 and 2027.
Steve Westhoven: Yes. 2026 and 2027.
Roberto Bel: 2027, probably.
Speaker #2: 2026 and 2027, Travis.
Roberto Bel: 2027, probably.
Speaker #8: Okay. Okay. Okay. Makes sense. And then higher level question. In New Jersey, positive etc. Would you be interested in rate-based solar or rate-based any kind of generation or energy other than natural gas
Travis Miller: Okay. Okay. Okay. Makes sense. And then, higher level question. In New Jersey, politics, et cetera, would you be interested in rate-based solar or rate-based any kind of generation or energy other than natural gas distribution?
Travis Miller: Okay. Okay. Okay. Makes sense. And then, higher level question. In New Jersey, politics, et cetera, would you be interested in rate-based solar or rate-based any kind of generation or energy other than natural gas distribution?
Speaker #8: distribution? Yeah.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah. You know, we would certainly work with the administration and do, you know, anything to be able to, you know, lower customer costs, improve, you know, the amount of capacity within the state of New Jersey, you know, to lower cost to consumers. So there's a number of, you know, items that are on the table. You know, we're not part of any kind of rate-based generation discussions at this point. But, you know, if it made sense, had the right risk profile, and we're able to deploy capital, you know, in the energy infrastructure space, then, then certainly we would consider it.
Steve Westhoven: Yeah. You know, we would certainly work with the administration and do, you know, anything to be able to, you know, lower customer costs, improve, you know, the amount of capacity within the state of New Jersey, you know, to lower cost to consumers. So there's a number of, you know, items that are on the table. You know, we're not part of any kind of rate-based generation discussions at this point. But, you know, if it made sense, had the right risk profile, and we're able to deploy capital, you know, in the energy infrastructure space, then, then certainly we would consider it.
Speaker #6: We would certainly work with the administration and do anything to be able to lower customer costs, improve the amount of capacity within the state of New Jersey.
Speaker #6: To lower cost to consumers. So there's a number of items that are on the table. We're not part of any kind of rate-based generation discussions at this point, but if it made sense, had the right risk profile, and we're able to deploy capital, in the energy infrastructure space, then certainly we would consider it.
Speaker #8: Okay. Great. Appreciate the thought. All right. Thanks,
Travis Miller: Okay, great. I appreciate the thought.
Travis Miller: Okay, great. I appreciate the thought.
Steve Westhoven: All right. Thanks, Travis.
Steve Westhoven: All right. Thanks, Travis.
Speaker #8: Travis.
Speaker #1: There are no I will now turn the call back over to Adam further questions at this time. And with that, Prior, Director of Investor Relations, for closing remarks.
Operator: There are no further questions at this time. With that, I will now turn the call back over to Adam Pryor, Director of Investor Relations, for closing remarks. Please go ahead.
Operator: There are no further questions at this time. With that, I will now turn the call back over to Adam Pryor, Director of Investor Relations, for closing remarks. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Please go ahead.
Steve Westhoven: Thanks so much. I'd like to thank all of you for your patience and for joining us this morning. We appreciate your interest and investment in NJR, and have a good day in the rest of your earnings. Thank you so much.
Adam Prior: Thanks so much. I'd like to thank all of you for your patience and for joining us this morning. We appreciate your interest and investment in NJR, and have a good day in the rest of your earnings. Thank you so much.
Speaker #9: Thanks so much. I'd like to thank all of you for your patience and for joining us this morning. We appreciate your interest and investment in NJR, and have a good day and the rest of your.
Speaker #9: Thank you so much.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call. We thank you for participating. You may now disconnect your lines.
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