Q4 2025 Kodiak Gas Services Inc Earnings Call
Operator: Greetings, and welcome to Kodiak Gas Services conference call and webcast to review Q4 and full year 2025 results. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the call, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Graham Sones, Vice President, Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.
Speaker #2: A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the call, please press the keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.
Speaker #2: I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Graham Sones, Vice President Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin. Good morning, and thank you for joining us for the Kodiak Gas Services conference call and webcast to review fourth quarter and full year 2025 results.
Graham Sones: Good morning, and thank you for joining us for the Kodiak Gas Services Conference Call and webcast to review Q4 and full year 2025 results. Participating from the company today are Mickey McKee, President and Chief Executive Officer, and John Griggs, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Following my remarks, Mickey and John will review recent developments, discuss our financial results and 2026 outlook, and then we'll open the call for Q&A. There will be a replay of today's call available via webcast and also by phone until 12 March 2026. Information on how to access the replay can be found on the Investors tab of our website at kodiakgas.com.
Graham Sones: Good morning, and thank you for joining us for the Kodiak Gas Services Conference Call and webcast to review Q4 and full year 2025 results. Participating from the company today are Mickey McKee, President and Chief Executive Officer, and John Griggs, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Following my remarks, Mickey and John will review recent developments, discuss our financial results and 2026 outlook, and then we'll open the call for Q&A. There will be a replay of today's call available via webcast and also by phone until 12 March 2026. Information on how to access the replay can be found on the Investors tab of our website at kodiakgas.com.
Speaker #2: Participating from the company today are Mickey McKee, President and Chief Executive Officer; and John Griggs, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Following my remarks, Mickey and John will review recent developments, discuss our financial results, and 2026 outlook, and then we'll open the call for Q&A.
Speaker #2: There will be a replay of today's call available via webcast and also by phone until March 12th, 2026. Information on how to access the replay can be found on the Investors tab of our website, at kodiaggas.com.
Speaker #2: Please note that information reported on this call speaks only as of today, February 26th, 2026, and therefore you're advised that such information may no longer be accurate as of the time of any replay listening or transcript reading.
Graham Sones: Please note that information reported on this call speaks only as of today, 26 February 2026. Therefore, you're advised that such information may no longer be accurate as of the time of any replay listening or transcript reading. Comments made by management during this call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of United States federal securities laws. These forward-looking statements reflect the current views, beliefs, and assumptions of Kodiak's management based on information currently available. Although we believe the expectations referenced in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, various risks, uncertainties, and contingencies could cause the company's actual results, performance, or achievements to differ materially from those expressed in the statements made by management. Management can give no assurance that such statements or expectations will prove to be correct. The comments today will also include certain non-GAAP financial measures.
Graham Sones: Please note that information reported on this call speaks only as of today, 26 February 2026. Therefore, you're advised that such information may no longer be accurate as of the time of any replay listening or transcript reading. Comments made by management during this call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of United States federal securities laws. These forward-looking statements reflect the current views, beliefs, and assumptions of Kodiak's management based on information currently available.
Speaker #2: Comments made by management during this call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of United States Federal Securities Laws. These forward-looking statements reflect the current views, beliefs, and assumptions of Kodiak's management based on information currently available.
Speaker #2: Although we believe the expectations referenced in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, various risks and certainties and contingencies could cause the company's actual results performance or achievements to differ materially from those expressed in the statements made by management, and management can give no assurance that such statements or expectations will prove to be correct.
Graham Sones: Although we believe the expectations referenced in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, various risks, uncertainties, and contingencies could cause the company's actual results, performance, or achievements to differ materially from those expressed in the statements made by management. Management can give no assurance that such statements or expectations will prove to be correct. The comments today will also include certain non-GAAP financial measures.
Speaker #2: The comments today will also include certain non-GAAP financial measures. Details and reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures are included in yesterday's earnings release, which can be found on our website.
Graham Sones: Details and reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures are included in yesterday's earnings release, which can be found on our website. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Kodiak's President and CEO, Mr. Mickey McKee. Mickey?
Graham Sones: Details and reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures are included in yesterday's earnings release, which can be found on our website. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Kodiak's President and CEO, Mr. Mickey McKee. Mickey?
Speaker #2: And now I'd like to turn the call over to Kodiak's President and CEO, Mr. Mickey McKee. Mickey?
Speaker #3: Thanks, Graham. And thank you all for joining us today. I'd like to begin today's call as we do with all meetings at Kodiak, by discussing safety.
Mickey McKee: Thanks, Graham, and thank you all for joining us today. I'd like to begin today's call, as we do with all meetings at Kodiak, by discussing safety. I've said this before, but our goal is for each of our employees to return home safely to their families at the end of every day. We made great strides in our safety performance in 2025, but our goal remains zero work-related injuries. I want to thank our safety and training teams, who work hard to equip our employees with the knowledge and tools to do their jobs safely, our customers for embracing our safety culture, and lastly, our technicians, who embody our safety-first mindset. 2025 was another record-setting year for Kodiak.
Mickey McKee: Thanks, Graham, and thank you all for joining us today. I'd like to begin today's call, as we do with all meetings at Kodiak, by discussing safety. I've said this before, but our goal is for each of our employees to return home safely to their families at the end of every day. We made great strides in our safety performance in 2025, but our goal remains zero work-related injuries. I want to thank our safety and training teams, who work hard to equip our employees with the knowledge and tools to do their jobs safely, our customers for embracing our safety culture, and lastly, our technicians, who embody our safety-first mindset. 2025 was another record-setting year for Kodiak.
Speaker #3: I've said this before, but our goal is for each of our employees to return home safely to their families at the end of every day.
Speaker #3: We make great strides in our safety performance in 2025, but our goal remains zero work-related injuries. I want to thank our safety and training teams who work hard to equip our employees with the knowledge and tools to do their job safely.
Speaker #3: We thank our customers for embracing our safety culture. And lastly, our technicians, who embody our safety-first mindset. 2025 was another record-setting year for Kodiak. We entered the year with a plan to continue to high-grade our compression fleet by divesting underutilized, non-strategic, small horsepower units, and to exit operations in non-core areas, allowing us to focus on our core, large horsepower operations.
Mickey McKee: We entered the year with a plan to continue to high-grade our compression fleet by divesting underutilized, non-strategic, small horsepower units and to exit operations in non-core areas, allowing us to focus on our core large horsepower operations. I'm proud to say that we ended 2025 with 100% of our operations located in the US and with the largest average horsepower fleet in the industry. The work we did high-grading our fleet also allowed us to deliver strong increases in fleet utilization, adjusted gross margins, and free cash flow. Given the high margins and stable operations, our core compression business generates predictable, growing, contracted cash flows that we reinvest both in our compression fleet and in tools and technologies that set us up for future success.
Mickey McKee: We entered the year with a plan to continue to high-grade our compression fleet by divesting underutilized, non-strategic, small horsepower units and to exit operations in non-core areas, allowing us to focus on our core large horsepower operations. I'm proud to say that we ended 2025 with 100% of our operations located in the US and with the largest average horsepower fleet in the industry. The work we did high-grading our fleet also allowed us to deliver strong increases in fleet utilization, adjusted gross margins, and free cash flow. Given the high margins and stable operations, our core compression business generates predictable, growing, contracted cash flows that we reinvest both in our compression fleet and in tools and technologies that set us up for future success.
Speaker #3: I'm proud to say that we ended 2025 with 100% of our operations located in the US and with the largest average horsepower fleet in the industry.
Speaker #3: The work we did to high-grading our fleet also allowed us to deliver strong increases in fleet utilization, adjusted gross margins, and free cash flow.
Speaker #3: Given the high margins and stable business generates predictable, growing, contracted cash flows that we reinvest both in our compression fleet and in tools and technologies that set us up for future success.
Speaker #3: Some of our highlights from the last year include successfully implementing a new ERP system to provide us enterprise-wide, real-time information in order to make more informed business decisions.
Mickey McKee: Some of our highlights from the last year include successfully implementing a new ERP system to provide us enterprise-wide, real-time information in order to make more informed business decisions. Our team did an amazing job with the rollout of the new software. We've been operating in the new system without issues since 1 August, and at year-end, we closed our accounting books in record time, an extraordinary execution by Kodiak. Investing further in AI and machine learning technologies to drive operational excellence and better customer outcomes. We've deployed our custom large language model to help our technicians quickly diagnose issues encountered in the field and are using agentic AI to source repair parts across our system. Our technology roadmap for 2026 includes wearable devices and autonomous solutions to enhance our technicians' capabilities, collect more data on our fleet, reduce risk, and allow our people to focus on high-value activities.
Mickey McKee: Some of our highlights from the last year include successfully implementing a new ERP system to provide us enterprise-wide, real-time information in order to make more informed business decisions. Our team did an amazing job with the rollout of the new software. We've been operating in the new system without issues since 1 August, and at year-end, we closed our accounting books in record time, an extraordinary execution by Kodiak. Investing further in AI and machine learning technologies to drive operational excellence and better customer outcomes.
Speaker #3: Our team did an amazing job with the rollout of the new software. We've been operating in the new system without issues since August 1, and at year-end, we closed our accounting books in record time.
Speaker #3: An extraordinary execution by Kodiak. Investing further in AI and machine learning technologies to drive operational excellence and better customer outcomes. We've deployed our custom large language model to help our technicians quickly diagnose issues encountered in the field, and are using agentic AI to source repair parts across our system.
Mickey McKee: We've deployed our custom large language model to help our technicians quickly diagnose issues encountered in the field and are using agentic AI to source repair parts across our system. Our technology roadmap for 2026 includes wearable devices and autonomous solutions to enhance our technicians' capabilities, collect more data on our fleet, reduce risk, and allow our people to focus on high-value activities.
Speaker #3: Our technology roadmap for 2026 includes wearable devices, and autonomous solutions to enhance our technicians' capabilities, collect more data on our fleet, reduce risk, and allow our people to focus on high-value activities.
Speaker #3: And we also broke ground on a new state-of-the-art training and operations facility in Midland. The new industry-leading facility is expected to be the largest of its kind, allowing us to continue to train and develop the best workforce in the industry.
Mickey McKee: We also broke ground on a new state-of-the-art training and operations facility in Midland. The new industry-leading facility is expected to be the largest of its kind, allowing us to continue to train and develop the best workforce in the industry. We plan to move in in May. Financially, we successfully managed the exit of our former private equity sponsor, eliminating any perceived equity overhang. As a recap, EQT owned approximately 76% of our shares after we went public in 2023. Over the last year and a half, through a series of secondary offerings, EQT completely exited its Kodiak investment much earlier than originally expected. We appreciate everyone who participated in the stock offerings. Additionally, we overhauled our balance sheet, terming out a large portion of our AVL.
Mickey McKee: We also broke ground on a new state-of-the-art training and operations facility in Midland. The new industry-leading facility is expected to be the largest of its kind, allowing us to continue to train and develop the best workforce in the industry. We plan to move in in May. Financially, we successfully managed the exit of our former private equity sponsor, eliminating any perceived equity overhang. As a recap, EQT owned approximately 76% of our shares after we went public in 2023. Over the last year and a half, through a series of secondary offerings, EQT completely exited its Kodiak investment much earlier than originally expected. We appreciate everyone who participated in the stock offerings. Additionally, we overhauled our balance sheet, terming out a large portion of our AVL.
Speaker #3: We plan to move in in May. Financially, we successfully managed the exit of our former private equity sponsor, eliminating any perceived equity overhang. As a recap, EQT owned approximately 76% of our shares after we went public in of secondary offerings, EQT completely exited its Kodiak investment.
Speaker #3: Much earlier than originally expected. We appreciate everyone who participated in the stock offerings. Additionally, we overhauled our balance sheet, terming out a large portion of our ABL.
Speaker #3: This further reduced our reliance on secured bank debt, increased liquidity, and extended our weighted average debt maturity, providing us with enhanced balance sheet strength and financial flexibility.
Mickey McKee: This further reduced our reliance on secured bank debt, increased liquidity, and extended our weighted average debt maturity, providing us with enhanced balance sheet strength and financial flexibility. Also, at year-end, I'm proud to say that we delivered on the promise we made at IPO and achieved our leverage target of 3.5x. Lastly, we maintained our commitment to return capital to shareholders. We increased our dividend, with Q4's declared dividend up 20% year-over-year, and we bought back over $100 million in common stock at an average price of $33.79 per share. In total, we returned over $260 million to our shareholders this year.
Mickey McKee: This further reduced our reliance on secured bank debt, increased liquidity, and extended our weighted average debt maturity, providing us with enhanced balance sheet strength and financial flexibility. Also, at year-end, I'm proud to say that we delivered on the promise we made at IPO and achieved our leverage target of 3.5x. Lastly, we maintained our commitment to return capital to shareholders. We increased our dividend, with Q4's declared dividend up 20% year-over-year, and we bought back over $100 million in common stock at an average price of $33.79 per share. In total, we returned over $260 million to our shareholders this year.
Speaker #3: Also, a year-end, I'm proud to say that we delivered on the promise we made at IPO and achieved our leverage target of three and a half times.
Speaker #3: Lastly, we maintained our commitment to return capital to shareholders. We increased our dividend with Q4's declared dividend up 20% year over year, and we bought back over $100 million in common stock at an average price of $33.79 per share.
Speaker #3: In total, we returned over $260 million to our shareholders this year. By all measures, 2025 was a great year for Kodiak. And with the recently announced acquisition of distributed power solutions, we're starting 2026 with a lot of positive momentum.
Mickey McKee: By all measures, 2025 was a great year for Kodiak. With the recently announced acquisition of Distributed Power Solutions, we're starting 2026 with a lot of positive momentum. We'll give more details after we close. I can say that we've received a lot of inbound interest in our new distributed power offering since the announcement, and are already working to procure additional power generation capacity through our existing network of vendors to deploy this year after we close. We think the market will continue to move in our direction as large power consumers are increasingly looking to lock in 10-year-plus deals for base power. On to contract services. As we've said before, we're really excited about compression. Compression and power are very synergistic and align well for our customers and ongoing relationships. We ended 2025 with 4.35 million revenue-generating horsepower.
Mickey McKee: By all measures, 2025 was a great year for Kodiak. With the recently announced acquisition of Distributed Power Solutions, we're starting 2026 with a lot of positive momentum. We'll give more details after we close. I can say that we've received a lot of inbound interest in our new distributed power offering since the announcement, and are already working to procure additional power generation capacity through our existing network of vendors to deploy this year after we close. We think the market will continue to move in our direction as large power consumers are increasingly looking to lock in 10-year-plus deals for base power. On to contract services. As we've said before, we're really excited about compression. Compression and power are very synergistic and align well for our customers and ongoing relationships. We ended 2025 with 4.35 million revenue-generating horsepower.
Speaker #3: We'll give more details after we close, but I can say that we've received a lot of inbound interest in our new distributed power offering since the announcement, and are already working to procure additional power generation capacity through our existing network of vendors to deploy this year after we close.
Speaker #3: We think the market will continue to move in our direction, as large power consumers are increasingly looking to lock in 10-year-plus deals for base power.
Speaker #3: Onto contract services. As we've said before, we're really excited about compression. Compression and power are very synergistic and align well for our customers and ongoing relationships.
Speaker #3: We ended 2025 with $4.35 million revenue-generating horsepower. Average horsepower per revenue-generating unit was 970, a figure that continues to lead the industry and has increased each quarter since we closed the CSI acquisition.
Mickey McKee: Average horsepower per revenue-generating unit was 970, a figure that continues to lead the industry and has increased each quarter since we closed the CSI acquisition. For the year, we added approximately 150,000 new large horsepower to our fleet. Our investments to grow our fleet, along with strategic divestitures of non-core units, drove our fleet utilization to 98%, another industry-leading metric. As we will discuss later in our outlook for 2026, despite slowing oil production growth, the outlook for natural gas supply road growth remains highly visible. Last year, Permian natural gas production grew 10% or roughly 2 BCF per day. Keep in mind, this production growth happened in a limited takeaway environment, with negative pricing in West Texas for most of the year.
Mickey McKee: Average horsepower per revenue-generating unit was 970, a figure that continues to lead the industry and has increased each quarter since we closed the CSI acquisition. For the year, we added approximately 150,000 new large horsepower to our fleet. Our investments to grow our fleet, along with strategic divestitures of non-core units, drove our fleet utilization to 98%, another industry-leading metric. As we will discuss later in our outlook for 2026, despite slowing oil production growth, the outlook for natural gas supply road growth remains highly visible. Last year, Permian natural gas production grew 10% or roughly 2 BCF per day. Keep in mind, this production growth happened in a limited takeaway environment, with negative pricing in West Texas for most of the year.
Speaker #3: For the year, we added approximately 150,000 new large horsepower to our fleet. Our investments to grow our fleet, along with strategic divestitures of non-core units, drove our fleet utilization to 98%, another industry-leading metric.
Speaker #3: As we will discuss later in our outlook for 2026, despite slowing oil production growth, the outlook for natural gas supply growth remains highly visible.
Speaker #3: Last year, Permian natural gas production grew 10%, or roughly 2 BCF per day. Keep in mind this production growth happened in a limited takeaway environment with negative pricing in West Texas for most of the year.
Speaker #3: Given the increasing gas-to-oil ratios, we expect sustainable gas growth out of the Permian Basin even in a flat oil environment. This favorable backdrop is driving strong compression demand.
Mickey McKee: Given the increase in gas-to-oil ratios, we expect sustainable gas growth out of the Permian Basin, even in a flat oil environment. This favorable backdrop is driving strong compression demand, one of the many reasons why I'm excited about our 2026 capital spending program, which I will discuss later. Yesterday, we released our Q4 and full year 2025 financial results. I'll hit the highlights and let John provide more details. For the year, Kodiak set new records in total revenue, adjusted EBITDA, discretionary cash flow, and free cash flow. Total revenue grew by 13% to $1.3 billion, and adjusted EBITDA grew by 17% to $715 million.
Mickey McKee: Given the increase in gas-to-oil ratios, we expect sustainable gas growth out of the Permian Basin, even in a flat oil environment. This favorable backdrop is driving strong compression demand, one of the many reasons why I'm excited about our 2026 capital spending program, which I will discuss later. Yesterday, we released our Q4 and full year 2025 financial results. I'll hit the highlights and let John provide more details. For the year, Kodiak set new records in total revenue, adjusted EBITDA, discretionary cash flow, and free cash flow. Total revenue grew by 13% to $1.3 billion, and adjusted EBITDA grew by 17% to $715 million.
Speaker #3: One of the many reasons why I'm excited about our 2026 capital spending program, which I'll discuss later. Yesterday, we released our fourth quarter and full-year 2025 financial results.
Speaker #3: I'll hit the highlights and let John provide more details. For the year, Kodiak set new records in total revenue, adjusted EBITDA, discretionary cash flow, and free cash flow.
Speaker #3: Total revenue grew by 13% to $1.3 billion, and adjusted EBITDA grew by 17% to $715 million. The growth was driven by the outstanding execution of our core strategy by Kodiak personnel, and our ongoing investment in organic, large horsepower growth, and the deployment of our technology and AI initiatives.
Mickey McKee: The growth was driven by the outstanding execution of our core strategy by Kodiak personnel and our ongoing investment in organic, large horsepower growth, and the deployment of our technology and AI initiatives. Our technology advances are the result of several years of development, and we're just starting to see the efficiency improvement of our investment. We've significantly reduced the cost of major repairs to our fleet by using data to identify abnormal operating conditions and address them before they turn into expensive component failures. These early wins give us confidence to continue to invest in technology, allowing us to increase equipment availability and reduce mechanical failures, driving additional value to our customers and increasing our operating margins. We generated $230 million of free cash flow in 2025 after investing to grow our large horsepower fleets and high-grading our overall fleet.
Mickey McKee: The growth was driven by the outstanding execution of our core strategy by Kodiak personnel and our ongoing investment in organic, large horsepower growth, and the deployment of our technology and AI initiatives. Our technology advances are the result of several years of development, and we're just starting to see the efficiency improvement of our investment. We've significantly reduced the cost of major repairs to our fleet by using data to identify abnormal operating conditions and address them before they turn into expensive component failures.
Speaker #3: Our technology advances are the result of several years of development, and we're just starting to see the efficiency improvement of our investment. With significantly reduced the cost of major repairs to our fleet by using data to identify abnormal operating conditions and address them before they turn into expensive component failures.
Speaker #3: These early wins give us confidence to continue to invest in technology, allowing us to increase equipment availability and reduce mechanical failures. Driving additional value to our customers and increasing our operating margins.
Mickey McKee: These early wins give us confidence to continue to invest in technology, allowing us to increase equipment availability and reduce mechanical failures, driving additional value to our customers and increasing our operating margins. We generated $230 million of free cash flow in 2025 after investing to grow our large horsepower fleets and high-grading our overall fleet.
Speaker #3: We generated $230 million of free cash flow in 2025 after investing to grow our large horsepower fleets and hydrating our overall fleet. Our strong free cash flow led to an industry-leading free cash flow yield and allowed us to reduce outstanding debt and achieve our stated leverage ratio goal of three and a half times at year-end.
Mickey McKee: Our strong free cash flow led to an industry-leading free cash flow yield and allowed us to reduce outstanding debt and achieve our stated leverage ratio goal of 3.5x at year-end. Now, diving into Q4 results. We once again delivered year-over-year growth in contract services revenues and adjusted gross margin. Impressively, our contract services adjusted gross margin percentage increased 247 basis points year-over-year to 69.2%, exceeding the high end of our guidance. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was up 9% year-over-year to $184 million, setting a new company record. Given strong customer demand, historically high industry-wide utilization, and capital discipline in the contract compression industry, pricing conversations with customers continue to be constructive.
Mickey McKee: Our strong free cash flow led to an industry-leading free cash flow yield and allowed us to reduce outstanding debt and achieve our stated leverage ratio goal of 3.5x at year-end. Now, diving into Q4 results. We once again delivered year-over-year growth in contract services revenues and adjusted gross margin. Impressively, our contract services adjusted gross margin percentage increased 247 basis points year-over-year to 69.2%, exceeding the high end of our guidance. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was up 9% year-over-year to $184 million, setting a new company record. Given strong customer demand, historically high industry-wide utilization, and capital discipline in the contract compression industry, pricing conversations with customers continue to be constructive.
Speaker #3: Now diving into fourth quarter results. We once again delivered year-over-year growth in contract services revenues and adjusted gross margin. Impressively, our contract services adjusted gross margin percentage increased 247 basis points year over year to 69.2%, exceeding the high end of our guidance.
Speaker #3: Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was up 9% year over year to $184 million. Setting a new company record. Given strong customer demand, historically high industry-wide utilization, and capital discipline in the contract compression industry, pricing conversations with customers continue to be constructive.
Speaker #3: During 2025, we recontracted approximately 40% of our fleet and exited the year with only 10% of our contracts on a month-to-month basis with the rest under multi-year contracts.
Mickey McKee: During 2025, we recontracted approximately 40% of our fleet and exited the year with only 10% of our contracts on a month-to-month basis, with the rest under multiyear contracts. While we have a smaller percentage of our horsepower up for recontracting in 2026, the compression market remains tight, with horsepower pricing continuing to increase. In our other services segment, Q4 results reflected a sequential pickup in activity as we had a positive uptick in shop services and station construction revenues. Overall, this segment generates free cash flow with minimal capital investment. Next, I'd like to discuss the evolving natural gas market and increasing lead times for large horsepower engines.
Mickey McKee: During 2025, we recontracted approximately 40% of our fleet and exited the year with only 10% of our contracts on a month-to-month basis, with the rest under multiyear contracts. While we have a smaller percentage of our horsepower up for recontracting in 2026, the compression market remains tight, with horsepower pricing continuing to increase. In our other services segment, Q4 results reflected a sequential pickup in activity as we had a positive uptick in shop services and station construction revenues. Overall, this segment generates free cash flow with minimal capital investment. Next, I'd like to discuss the evolving natural gas market and increasing lead times for large horsepower engines.
Speaker #3: While we have a smaller percentage of our horsepower up for recontracting in 2026, the compression market remains tight, with horsepower pricing continuing to increase.
Speaker #3: In our other services segment, fourth quarter results reflected a sequential pickup in activity as we had a positive uptick in shop services and station construction revenues.
Speaker #3: Overall, this segment generates free cash flow with minimal capital investment. Next, I'd like to discuss the evolving natural gas market and increasing lead times for large horsepower engines.
Speaker #3: Over the next three quarters, approximately 4.5 BCF per day of incremental Permian gas pipeline takeaway capacity is expected to come online.
Mickey McKee: Over the next three quarters, approximately four and a half BCF per day of incremental Permian gas pipeline takeaway capacity is expected to come online. There's another seven BCF per day of additional Permian takeaway pipelines expected by the end of the decade. What's more, we've seen estimates from research firms of more than two BCF per day of in-basin gas consumption for power generation by the end of the decade, including distributed power like DPS and major power plants. This is on top of the highly visible increase in feed gas required for US LNG. After ramping up by roughly three BCF per day in 2025, LNG export capacity is set to increase by another two BCF per day in 2026, with an additional 13 BCF per day of LNG export capacity expected by the end of 2035.
Mickey McKee: Over the next three quarters, approximately four and a half BCF per day of incremental Permian gas pipeline takeaway capacity is expected to come online. There's another seven BCF per day of additional Permian takeaway pipelines expected by the end of the decade. What's more, we've seen estimates from research firms of more than two BCF per day of in-basin gas consumption for power generation by the end of the decade, including distributed power like DPS and major power plants. This is on top of the highly visible increase in feed gas required for US LNG. After ramping up by roughly three BCF per day in 2025, LNG export capacity is set to increase by another two BCF per day in 2026, with an additional 13 BCF per day of LNG export capacity expected by the end of 2035.
Speaker #3: And there's another seven BCF per day of additional Permian takeaway pipelines expected by the end of the decade. What's more, we've seen estimates from research firms of more than two BCF per day of in-base and gas consumption for power generation by the end of the decade.
Speaker #3: Including distributed power like DPS and major power plants. This is on top of the highly visible increase in feed gas required for US LNG.
Speaker #3: After ramping up by roughly three BCF per day in 2025, LNG export capacity is set to increase by another two BCF per day in 2026.
Speaker #3: With an additional 13 BCF per day of LNG export capacity expected by the end of 2035. These developments will have a resoundingly positive impact on gas pricing and production in the Permian Basin.
Mickey McKee: These developments will have a resoundingly positive impact on gas pricing and production in the Permian Basin. The combination of higher in-basin demand, increased takeaway capacity, better pricing, and ever-increasing gas-to-oil ratios is expected to lead to substantial Permian gas volume growth in the back half of this decade. The significant step up in midstream and compression capacity needed to support the gas growth in the Permian Basin, in addition to the rapidly growing demand for distributed power generation, has driven lead times for new large horsepower compression equipment to greater than 100 weeks. The combination of extended lead times and highly visible compression demand has required our commercial team to engage with customers about longer-term plans. We've already begun receiving commitments from customers for new compression equipment in 2027 and 2028.
Mickey McKee: These developments will have a resoundingly positive impact on gas pricing and production in the Permian Basin. The combination of higher in-basin demand, increased takeaway capacity, better pricing, and ever-increasing gas-to-oil ratios is expected to lead to substantial Permian gas volume growth in the back half of this decade. The significant step up in midstream and compression capacity needed to support the gas growth in the Permian Basin, in addition to the rapidly growing demand for distributed power generation, has driven lead times for new large horsepower compression equipment to greater than 100 weeks. The combination of extended lead times and highly visible compression demand has required our commercial team to engage with customers about longer-term plans. We've already begun receiving commitments from customers for new compression equipment in 2027 and 2028.
Speaker #3: The combination of higher in-base and demand increased takeaway capacity, better pricing, and ever-increasing gas-to-oil ratios is expected to lead to substantial Permian gas volume growth in the back half of this decade.
Speaker #3: The significant step up in midstream and compression capacity needed to support the gas growth in the Permian Basin in addition to the rapidly growing demand for distributed power generation has driven lead times for new large horsepower compression equipment to greater than 100 weeks.
Speaker #3: The combination of extended lead times and highly visible compression demand has required our commercial team to engage with customers about longer-term plans. We've already begun receiving commitments from customers for new compression equipment in 2027 and 2028.
Speaker #3: On the supply chain side, we're using our buying power and leading position in the industry to secure new compression equipment and are confident we'll be able to hit our long-term horsepower growth targets despite historically high lead times.
Mickey McKee: On the supply chain side, we're using our buying power and leading position in the industry to secure new compression equipment and are confident we'll be able to hit our long-term horsepower growth targets, despite historically high lead times, as we've already secured engine deliveries and shop space into 2028. In total, we expect to deploy over 750,000 new large horsepower compression between now and the end of 2030. Now, turning to our outlook for 2026. We have a lot of positive momentum heading into the year. Despite the increased lead times for new equipment, we plan on delivering approximately 150,000 new unit horsepower in 2026, with an average horsepower per unit of approximately 1,700 horsepower, further solidifying our position as the industry leader in large horsepower compression.
Mickey McKee: On the supply chain side, we're using our buying power and leading position in the industry to secure new compression equipment and are confident we'll be able to hit our long-term horsepower growth targets, despite historically high lead times, as we've already secured engine deliveries and shop space into 2028. In total, we expect to deploy over 750,000 new large horsepower compression between now and the end of 2030. Now, turning to our outlook for 2026. We have a lot of positive momentum heading into the year. Despite the increased lead times for new equipment, we plan on delivering approximately 150,000 new unit horsepower in 2026, with an average horsepower per unit of approximately 1,700 horsepower, further solidifying our position as the industry leader in large horsepower compression.
Speaker #3: As we've already secured engine deliveries and shop space into 2028. In total, we expect to deploy over 750,000 new large horsepower compression between now and the end of 2030.
Speaker #3: Now turning to our outlook for 2026. We have a lot of positive momentum heading into the year. Despite the increased lead times for new equipment, we plan on delivering approximately 150,000 new unit horsepower in 2026, with an average horsepower per unit of approximately 1,700 horsepower.
Speaker #3: Further solidifying our position as the industry leader in large horsepower compression. We're also in discussions with a handful of our customers about purchase-lease-back opportunities and expect to announce one soon.
Mickey McKee: We're also in discussions with a handful of our customers about purchase leaseback opportunities and expect to announce one soon. We view purchase leaseback transactions as low-risk acquisitions. They have the benefit of accelerating our growth at compelling returns on invested capital without adding additional compression capacity to the market. The strong pricing environment we've seen for the last several years continues. We expect to deliver further margin increases as we capture operating efficiencies. We're seeing positive signs in the station construction business, part sales, and our other services segment. In summary, we had a great year. Our adjusted EBITDA significantly exceeded both our initial guidance for the year and our latest update, driven by operational efficiency and cost management. We hydrated our fleet, exited international operations, and achieved our leverage target of 3.5x.
Mickey McKee: We're also in discussions with a handful of our customers about purchase leaseback opportunities and expect to announce one soon. We view purchase leaseback transactions as low-risk acquisitions. They have the benefit of accelerating our growth at compelling returns on invested capital without adding additional compression capacity to the market. The strong pricing environment we've seen for the last several years continues. We expect to deliver further margin increases as we capture operating efficiencies. We're seeing positive signs in the station construction business, part sales, and our other services segment. In summary, we had a great year. Our adjusted EBITDA significantly exceeded both our initial guidance for the year and our latest update, driven by operational efficiency and cost management. We hydrated our fleet, exited international operations, and achieved our leverage target of 3.5x.
Speaker #3: We view purchase-lease-back transactions as low-risk acquisitions. They have the benefit of accelerating our growth at compelling returns on invested capital without adding additional compression capacity to the market.
Speaker #3: The strong pricing environment we've seen for the last several years continues. And we expect to deliver further margin increases as we capture operating efficiencies.
Speaker #3: And we're seeing positive signs in the station construction business, part sales, and our other services segment. In summary, we had a great year. Our adjusted EBITDA significantly exceeded both our initial guidance for the year and our latest update.
Speaker #3: Driven by operational efficiency and cost management. We high-graded our fleet exited international operations and achieved our leverage target of three and a half times.
Speaker #3: We have numerous tailwinds heading into 2026 as demand for contract compression remains strong and utilization rates continue to be at record highs. We're extremely excited to add distributed power to our business offerings and believe the outlook for that business will allow us to increase our underlying growth rate and drive higher margins.
Mickey McKee: We have numerous tailwinds heading into 2026, as demand for contract compression remains strong and utilization rates continue to be at record highs. We're extremely excited to add distributed power to our business offerings and believe the outlook for that business will allow us to increase our underlying growth rate and drive higher margins. Now I'll pass the call to John Griggs to further discuss our financial results and our outlook for 2026. John?
Mickey McKee: We have numerous tailwinds heading into 2026, as demand for contract compression remains strong and utilization rates continue to be at record highs. We're extremely excited to add distributed power to our business offerings and believe the outlook for that business will allow us to increase our underlying growth rate and drive higher margins. Now I'll pass the call to John Griggs to further discuss our financial results and our outlook for 2026. John?
Speaker #3: And now I'll pass the call to John Griggs to further discuss our financial results and our outlook for 2026. John?
Speaker #2: Thank you. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, 2025 was an outstanding year, which just no other way to say it. From a financial perspective, we exited the year with the lowest leverage, most liquidity, and highest EBITDA free cash flow and contract services adjusted gross margin in our company's history.
John Griggs: Thank you. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, 2025 was an outstanding year. There's just no other way to say it. From a financial perspective, we exited the year with the lowest leverage, most liquidity, and highest EBITDA, free cash flow, and contract services adjusted gross margin in our company's history. Our new enterprise-wide business system meaningfully reduces SOX-related risk and is increasingly providing us with enhanced visibility into our operating and financial performance, giving our company's leaders far better data and insights to ultimately make faster and better business decisions. Our financial strength has never been better equipped to capture all of the growth opportunities that are in front of us today. Before I tackle the financial highlights, I'd like to give a shout-out to my team.
John Griggs: Thank you. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, 2025 was an outstanding year. There's just no other way to say it. From a financial perspective, we exited the year with the lowest leverage, most liquidity, and highest EBITDA, free cash flow, and contract services adjusted gross margin in our company's history. Our new enterprise-wide business system meaningfully reduces SOX-related risk and is increasingly providing us with enhanced visibility into our operating and financial performance, giving our company's leaders far better data and insights to ultimately make faster and better business decisions. Our financial strength has never been better equipped to capture all of the growth opportunities that are in front of us today. Before I tackle the financial highlights, I'd like to give a shout-out to my team.
Speaker #2: Our new enterprise-wide business system meaningfully reduces SOX-related risk and is increasingly providing us with enhanced visibility into our operating and financial performance, giving our company's leaders far better data and insights to ultimately make faster and better business decisions.
Speaker #2: Our financial strength has never been better equipped to capture all of the growth opportunities that are in front of us today. Before I tackle the financial highlights, I'd like to give a shout-out to my team.
Speaker #2: I am so proud of everything they've accomplished over the past couple of years. An IPO and all that that entails, the CSI acquisition and integration, several capital markets transactions, more than $2 billion in bond issuances, and ERP implementation and more recently, moving to full SOX compliance.
John Griggs: I am so proud of everything they've accomplished over the past couple of years, an IPO and all that that entails, the CSI acquisition and integration, several capital markets transactions, more than $2 billion in bond issuances, and ERP implementation, and more recently, moving to full SOX compliance. It's been a big, big, big lift, but they've risen to the occasion time and time again. I'm privileged to lead them, and I look forward to seeing them continue to do great things as we move forward. Let's turn to the financial highlights. For the year, we reported total revenue of approximately $1.3 billion, 13% increase over 2024. The growth was primarily driven by the addition of new horsepower, price increases from recontracting activity, and solid operational execution.
John Griggs: I am so proud of everything they've accomplished over the past couple of years, an IPO and all that that entails, the CSI acquisition and integration, several capital markets transactions, more than $2 billion in bond issuances, and ERP implementation, and more recently, moving to full SOX compliance. It's been a big, big, big lift, but they've risen to the occasion time and time again. I'm privileged to lead them, and I look forward to seeing them continue to do great things as we move forward. Let's turn to the financial highlights. For the year, we reported total revenue of approximately $1.3 billion, 13% increase over 2024. The growth was primarily driven by the addition of new horsepower, price increases from recontracting activity, and solid operational execution.
Speaker #2: It's been a big, big, big lift, but they've risen to the occasion time and time again. I'm privileged to lead them, and I look forward to seeing them continue to do great things as we move forward.
Speaker #2: Let's turn to the financial highlights. For the year, we reported total revenue of approximately $1.3 billion, a 13% increase over 2024. The growth was primarily driven by the addition of new horsepower, price increases from re-contracting activity, and solid operational execution.
Speaker #2: We reported adjusted net income of $139 million, and adjusted EBITDA of approximately $715 million. Up 51% in 17% respectively from the prior year. For the fourth quarter, total revenues were nearly $333 million, up 3% sequentially as we benefited from a large amount of re-contracting that happened around the beginning of the fourth quarter.
John Griggs: We reported adjusted net income of $139 million and adjusted EBITDA of approximately $715 million, up 51% and 17%, respectively, from the prior year. For Q4, total revenues were nearly $333 million, up 3% sequentially, as we benefited from a large amount of recontracting that happened around the beginning of Q4. Revenue for any horsepower was $23.10 at year-end, a 2% increase from the previous quarter and up approximately five percent from the previous year's quarter. As we discussed last quarter, the Q4's sequential increase in dollars per revenue-generating horsepower was driven by the combination of less overall new horsepower being set in Q4, in conjunction with solid pricing for new units set during Q3, plus recontracting during Q4 at ever higher rates.
John Griggs: We reported adjusted net income of $139 million and adjusted EBITDA of approximately $715 million, up 51% and 17%, respectively, from the prior year. For Q4, total revenues were nearly $333 million, up 3% sequentially, as we benefited from a large amount of recontracting that happened around the beginning of Q4. Revenue for any horsepower was $23.10 at year-end, a 2% increase from the previous quarter and up approximately five percent from the previous year's quarter. As we discussed last quarter, the Q4's sequential increase in dollars per revenue-generating horsepower was driven by the combination of less overall new horsepower being set in Q4, in conjunction with solid pricing for new units set during Q3, plus recontracting during Q4 at ever higher rates.
Speaker #2: Revenue for any horsepower was $23.10 at year-end, a 2% increase from the previous quarter and up approximately 5% from the previous year's quarter. As we discussed last quarter, the fourth quarter's sequential increase in dollars per revenue-generating horsepower was driven by the combination of less overall new horsepower being set in Q4 in conjunction with solid pricing for new units set during the third quarter.
Speaker #2: Plus, re-contracting during Q4 at ever higher rates. Our contract services adjusted gross margin percentage for the fourth quarter exceeded 69%. That's up 90 basis points sequentially and 247 basis points year over year.
John Griggs: Our contract services adjusted gross margin percentage for Q4 exceeded 69%. That's up 90 basis points sequentially and 247 basis points year-over-year. Margin improvement is a reflection of the success we've realized in achieving higher average pricing per horsepower, alongside lower operating expense per horsepower, which itself was a function of new technology, process, and training initiatives that either reduced costs, deferred spend, or improved labor productivity, or some combination of all three. In our other services segment, revenues were just over $31 million in Q4, with an adjusted gross margin percentage of 13%. The sequential increase in revenues was driven primarily by an increase in shop services and station construction revenues.
John Griggs: Our contract services adjusted gross margin percentage for Q4 exceeded 69%. That's up 90 basis points sequentially and 247 basis points year-over-year. Margin improvement is a reflection of the success we've realized in achieving higher average pricing per horsepower, alongside lower operating expense per horsepower, which itself was a function of new technology, process, and training initiatives that either reduced costs, deferred spend, or improved labor productivity, or some combination of all three. In our other services segment, revenues were just over $31 million in Q4, with an adjusted gross margin percentage of 13%. The sequential increase in revenues was driven primarily by an increase in shop services and station construction revenues.
Speaker #2: The margin improvement is a reflection of the success we've realized in achieving higher average pricing for horsepower, alongside lower operating expense for horsepower, which itself was a function of new technology, process, and training initiatives that either reduced costs, deferred spend, or improved labor productivity, or some combination of all three.
Speaker #2: In our other services segment, revenues were just over $31 million in Q4 with an adjusted gross margin percentage of 13%. The sequential increase in revenues was driven primarily by an increase in shop services and station construction revenues.
Speaker #2: Reported SG&A for the quarter was $38.9 million. And after adjusting for non-recurring or non-cash items, it was $29.7 million. Down nearly 6% in the prior quarter.
John Griggs: Reported SG&A for the Q was $38.9 million. After adjusting for nonrecurring or non-cash items, it was $29.7 million, down nearly 6% from the prior Q. Net income attributable to common shareholders for Q4 was almost $25 million, or $0.28 per diluted share. Excluding asset impairment, severance, transaction expenses, and other one-time items, adjusted net income was $35 million, or $0.40 per diluted share. Now, let's turn to capital expenditures. Maintenance CapEx for the Q was approximately $22 million, and it was $76 million for the year, which was at the low end of our annual guidance range. The same investments in technology and the insights we're gaining from them are also allowing us to extend overhaul intervals and thereby defer associated spend on a major portion of our fleet.
John Griggs: Reported SG&A for the Q was $38.9 million. After adjusting for nonrecurring or non-cash items, it was $29.7 million, down nearly 6% from the prior Q. Net income attributable to common shareholders for Q4 was almost $25 million, or $0.28 per diluted share. Excluding asset impairment, severance, transaction expenses, and other one-time items, adjusted net income was $35 million, or $0.40 per diluted share. Now, let's turn to capital expenditures. Maintenance CapEx for the Q was approximately $22 million, and it was $76 million for the year, which was at the low end of our annual guidance range. The same investments in technology and the insights we're gaining from them are also allowing us to extend overhaul intervals and thereby defer associated spend on a major portion of our fleet.
Speaker #2: Net income attributable to common shareholders for the fourth quarter was almost $25 million, or $28 cents per diluted share. Excluding asset impairment, severance, and transaction expenses, and other one-time items, adjusted net income was $35 million, or $0.40 per diluted share.
Speaker #2: Now let's turn to capital expenditures. Maintenance capex for the quarter was approximately $22 million, and it was $76 million for the year, which was at the low end of our annual guidance range.
Speaker #2: The same investments in technology and the insights we're gaining from them are also allowing us to extend overhaul intervals, and thereby defer associated spend on a major portion of our fleet.
Speaker #2: As expected, growth capex declined sharply this quarter to approximately $25 million. For the year, we added approximately $150,000 in new unit horsepower in line with previous expectations.
John Griggs: As expected, growth CapEx declined sharply this quarter to approximately $25 million. For the year, we added approximately 150,000 in new unit horsepower, in line with previous expectations. Other CapEx was just under $12 million for the quarter, slightly down from the prior quarter. Discretionary cash flow came in at $113 million, an increase of approximately $5 million versus the comparable quarter from last year. Free cash flow, which we define as discretionary cash flow, less growth and other CapEx, plus the proceeds from asset sales, was $79 million, a new quarterly company record. For the year, we generated approximately $462 million in discretionary cash flow. Our discretionary cash flow is one of our most important business metrics. It drives our growth, and it funds the return of capital to shareholders.
John Griggs: As expected, growth CapEx declined sharply this quarter to approximately $25 million. For the year, we added approximately 150,000 in new unit horsepower, in line with previous expectations. Other CapEx was just under $12 million for the quarter, slightly down from the prior quarter. Discretionary cash flow came in at $113 million, an increase of approximately $5 million versus the comparable quarter from last year. Free cash flow, which we define as discretionary cash flow, less growth and other CapEx, plus the proceeds from asset sales, was $79 million, a new quarterly company record. For the year, we generated approximately $462 million in discretionary cash flow. Our discretionary cash flow is one of our most important business metrics. It drives our growth, and it funds the return of capital to shareholders.
Speaker #2: Other capex, which just under $12 million for the quarter, slightly down from the prior quarter. Discretionary cash flow came in at $113 million, an increase of approximately $5 million versus the comparable quarter from last year.
Speaker #2: Free cash flow, which we define as discretionary cash flow, less growth and other capex, plus the proceeds from asset sales, was $79 million, a new quarterly company record.
Speaker #2: For the year, we generated approximately $462 million, and discretionary cash flow. Our discretionary cash flow is one of our most important business metrics. It drives our growth, and it funds the return of capital to shareholders.
Speaker #2: The long-term growth of our core compression business, and therefore our discretionary cash flow, is directly correlated with the nearly irrefutable secular growth in domestic natural gas production.
John Griggs: The long-term growth of our core compression business, and therefore, our discretionary cash flow, is directly correlated with the nearly irrefutable secular growth in domestic natural gas production. Our cash flows are heavily contracted under take-or-pay contracts with inflation escalators. As a result, we tend to produce growing but stable discretionary cash flow, even in times of severe commodity price volatility, which is something we can't emphasize enough. With regard to the balance sheet, as Mickey highlighted earlier, we delivered on the promise we made to investors at the time of our IPO, that we'd get our leverage down to 3.5x by the time we exited 2025. We exited the year with the strongest balance sheet we've ever had, with approximately $1.5 billion in undrawn liquidity and over three years before our first debt maturity.
John Griggs: The long-term growth of our core compression business, and therefore, our discretionary cash flow, is directly correlated with the nearly irrefutable secular growth in domestic natural gas production. Our cash flows are heavily contracted under take-or-pay contracts with inflation escalators. As a result, we tend to produce growing but stable discretionary cash flow, even in times of severe commodity price volatility, which is something we can't emphasize enough. With regard to the balance sheet, as Mickey highlighted earlier, we delivered on the promise we made to investors at the time of our IPO, that we'd get our leverage down to 3.5x by the time we exited 2025. We exited the year with the strongest balance sheet we've ever had, with approximately $1.5 billion in undrawn liquidity and over three years before our first debt maturity.
Speaker #2: And our cash flows are heavily contracted, under take-or-pay contracts with inflation escalators. As a result, we tend to produce growing but stable discretionary cash flow, even in times of severe commodity price volatility.
Speaker #2: Which is something we can't emphasize enough. With regard to the balance sheet, as Mickey highlighted earlier, we delivered on the promise we made to investors at the time of our IPO that we'd get our leverage down to three and a half times by the time we exited 2025.
Speaker #2: We exited the year with the strongest balance sheet we've ever had with approximately $1.5 billion in undrawn liquidity and over three years before our first debt maturity.
Speaker #2: To recap, in 2025, we termed out $1.4 billion of our bank debt in the bond market, including the first issuance of a 10-year bond in the compression sector.
John Griggs: To recap, in 2025, we turned out $1.4 billion dollars of our bank debt in the bond market, including the first issuance of a 10-year bond in the compression sector, and we amended our ABL to reduce interest rate spreads and enhance financial flexibility. Last, our board declared, and we paid last week, a dividend of $0.49 per share. Even with two increases totaling nearly 20% in 2025, our dividend was well covered for the quarter at 2.6 times. Let's turn to our 2026 guidance. We provided our customary metrics in yesterday's release. Keep in mind, our guidance metrics don't include the recently announced DPS acquisition. We plan on revising our guidance for the inclusion of that business after we close the transaction, which we would expect to occur around the beginning of the Q2.
John Griggs: To recap, in 2025, we turned out $1.4 billion dollars of our bank debt in the bond market, including the first issuance of a 10-year bond in the compression sector, and we amended our ABL to reduce interest rate spreads and enhance financial flexibility. Last, our board declared, and we paid last week, a dividend of $0.49 per share. Even with two increases totaling nearly 20% in 2025, our dividend was well covered for the quarter at 2.6 times. Let's turn to our 2026 guidance. We provided our customary metrics in yesterday's release. Keep in mind, our guidance metrics don't include the recently announced DPS acquisition. We plan on revising our guidance for the inclusion of that business after we close the transaction, which we would expect to occur around the beginning of the Q2.
Speaker #2: And we amended our ABL to reduce interest rate spreads and enhance financial flexibility. Last, our board declared, and we paid last week, a dividend of $0.49 per share.
Speaker #2: Even with two increases totaling nearly 20% in 2025, our dividend was well covered for the quarter at 2.6 times. Let's turn to our 26 guidance.
Speaker #2: We provided our customary metrics in yesterday's release. Keep in mind, our guidance metrics don't include the recently announced DPS acquisition. We plan on revising our guidance for the inclusion of that business after we close the transaction, which we would expect to occur around the beginning of the second quarter.
Speaker #2: For the year, we expect overall revenue to range between $1.37 and $1.43 billion. We expect the adjusted gross margin percentage within the contract services segment to range between 67 and a half and 69 and a half percent.
John Griggs: For the year, we expect overall revenue to range between $1.37 and $1.43 billion. We expect the adjusted gross margin percentage within the contract services segment to range between 67.5% and 69.5%. Our 2026 adjusted EBITDA guidance range is around $750 to $780 million, with the midpoint representing annual growth of approximately 8%, directly in line with the upper single-digit percentage annual growth rate that we believe is possible in our core compression business for the foreseeable future.
John Griggs: For the year, we expect overall revenue to range between $1.37 and $1.43 billion. We expect the adjusted gross margin percentage within the contract services segment to range between 67.5% and 69.5%. Our 2026 adjusted EBITDA guidance range is around $750 to $780 million, with the midpoint representing annual growth of approximately 8%, directly in line with the upper single-digit percentage annual growth rate that we believe is possible in our core compression business for the foreseeable future.
Speaker #2: Our 2026 adjusted EBITDA guidance range is around $750 to $780 million. With the midpoint representing annual growth of approximately 8%, directly in line with the upper single-digit percentage annual growth rate that we believe is possible in our core compression business for the foreseeable future.
Speaker #2: We expect maintenance capex to be in the range of $75 to $85 million, essentially flat for last year, something that would not have been possible had we not been investing in the people, process, and systems that have allowed us to meaningfully defer maintenance spend without harming our assets or their long-term performance.
John Griggs: We expect maintenance CapEx to be in the range of $75 to $85 million, essentially flat with last year, something that would not have been possible had we not been investing in the people, process, and systems that have allowed us to meaningfully defer maintenance spend without harming our assets or their long-term performance. We see growth capital expenditures landing between $235 and $265 million. The vast majority of our growth CapEx goes towards buying and installing new units, while the balance gets invested in things like fleet-oriented enhancements and conversions, emissions-related projects, and operation-centric technology. Other capital expenditures, which includes fleet upgrades, make-ready expenditures, rolling stock, real estate, capitalized aspects of our training programs, are expected to range between $40 and $50 million. In terms of capital allocation, returning capital to shareholders is important to us.
John Griggs: We expect maintenance CapEx to be in the range of $75 to $85 million, essentially flat with last year, something that would not have been possible had we not been investing in the people, process, and systems that have allowed us to meaningfully defer maintenance spend without harming our assets or their long-term performance. We see growth capital expenditures landing between $235 and $265 million. The vast majority of our growth CapEx goes towards buying and installing new units, while the balance gets invested in things like fleet-oriented enhancements and conversions, emissions-related projects, and operation-centric technology.
Speaker #2: We see growth capital expenditures landing between $235 and $265 million. The vast majority of our growth capex goes towards buying and installing new units, while the balance gets invested in things like fleet-oriented enhancements and conversions, emissions-related projects, and operations-centric technology.
Speaker #2: Other capital expenditures, which includes fleet upgrades, make-ready expenditures, rolling stock, real estate, capitalized aspects of our training programs, are expected to range between $40 and $50 million.
John Griggs: Other capital expenditures, which includes fleet upgrades, make-ready expenditures, rolling stock, real estate, capitalized aspects of our training programs, are expected to range between $40 and $50 million. In terms of capital allocation, returning capital to shareholders is important to us. We expect to grow our dividend annually and opportunistically repurchase stock. Prior to the acquisition of DPS, our stated goal was to invest organically at a level that allowed us to deliver long-term annual growth and adjusted EBITDA in the upper single-digit percentage range. Following the acquisition of DPS, we believe we can grow faster than that and have similar or better returns on invested capital. To wrap it up, 25 was another record-setting year at Kodiak.
Speaker #2: In terms of capital allocation, returning capital to shareholders is important to us. We expect to grow our dividend annually and opportunistically repurchase stock. Prior to the acquisition of DPS, our stated goal was to invest organically at a level that allowed us to deliver long-term annual growth and adjusted EBITDA in the upper
John Griggs: We expect to grow our dividend annually and opportunistically repurchase stock. Prior to the acquisition of DPS, our stated goal was to invest organically at a level that allowed us to deliver long-term annual growth and adjusted EBITDA in the upper single-digit percentage range. Following the acquisition of DPS, we believe we can grow faster than that and have similar or better returns on invested capital. To wrap it up, 25 was another record-setting year at Kodiak. We're extremely proud of all that we accomplished and the work we did to lay the foundation for future growth. The outlook for contract compression and related services is stronger than ever, by our estimation, it looks like it will remain that way for a while. We're in the process of further increasing our earnings growth rate with the pending acquisition of Distributed Power Solutions.
Speaker #1: A single digit percentage range . Following the acquisition of DPS , we believe we can grow faster than that , and at similar or better returns on invested capital To wrap it up , 25 was another record setting year at Kodiak .
Speaker #1: We're extremely proud of all that we accomplished and the work we did to lay the foundation for future growth . The outlook for contract compression and related services is stronger than ever , and buyer and our estimation , it looks like it will remain that way for a while .
John Griggs: We're extremely proud of all that we accomplished and the work we did to lay the foundation for future growth. The outlook for contract compression and related services is stronger than ever, by our estimation, it looks like it will remain that way for a while. We're in the process of further increasing our earnings growth rate with the pending acquisition of Distributed Power Solutions. With that, I'll hand it back to Mickey.
Speaker #1: And we're in the process of further increasing our earnings growth rate with the pending acquisition of distributed Power Solutions With that , I'll hand it back to Nicki Thanks , John .
John Griggs: With that, I'll hand it back to Mickey.
Mickey McKee: Thanks, John. It's an exciting time to be at Kodiak. Our business model, which generates highly visible, stable, and recurring cash flows, is performing well. The demand outlook for contract compression remains robust, demonstrated by our ability to maintain strong pricing and continued growth in our industry-leading horsepower utilization. Our new unit horsepower order book is fully contracted for 2026 and into 2027. We're actively working on finishing 2027 and 2028 as we capitalize on the robust outlook for growth in natural gas. Besides the top line growth, we took steps to increase margins by divesting non-core units and investing in technology to reduce costs and increase uptime. The pending DPS acquisition will further increase our earnings potential and growth outlook, enhancing our ability to return capital and drive ongoing value for Kodiak shareholders. Needless to say, we're excited about our future.
Mickey McKee: Thanks, John. It's an exciting time to be at Kodiak. Our business model, which generates highly visible, stable, and recurring cash flows, is performing well. The demand outlook for contract compression remains robust, demonstrated by our ability to maintain strong pricing and continued growth in our industry-leading horsepower utilization. Our new unit horsepower order book is fully contracted for 2026 and into 2027. We're actively working on finishing 2027 and 2028 as we capitalize on the robust outlook for growth in natural gas.
Speaker #1: It's an exciting time to be at Kodiak Our business model , which generates highly visible , stable and recurring cash flows , is performing well .
Speaker #1: The demand outlook for contract compression remains robust , demonstrated by our ability to maintain strong pricing and continued growth in our industry , leading horsepower utilization Our new unit horsepower order book is fully contracted for 2026 and into 2027 , and we're actively working on finishing 2027 and 2028 as we capitalize on the robust outlook for growth in natural gas Besides the top line growth , we took steps to increase margins by divesting non-core units and investing in technology to reduce costs and increase uptime depending DPS , acquisition will further increase our earnings potential and growth outlook , enhancing our ability to return capital and drive ongoing value for Kodiak shareholders Needless to say , we're excited about our future .
Mickey McKee: Besides the top line growth, we took steps to increase margins by divesting non-core units and investing in technology to reduce costs and increase uptime. The pending DPS acquisition will further increase our earnings potential and growth outlook, enhancing our ability to return capital and drive ongoing value for Kodiak shareholders. Needless to say, we're excited about our future.Thanks for your participation today, now we're happy to open up the line for questions. Operator?
Speaker #1: Thanks for your participation today and now we're happy to open up the line for questions Operator .
Mickey McKee: Thanks for your participation today, now we're happy to open up the line for questions. Operator?
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Speaker #3: Hey , good morning Mickey . John , everyone . Mickey , maybe just starting with the lead time . Comments . Obviously , all of you guys are seeing the same thing , and I'm curious is great to see the CapEx commitment on the compression side .
Jim Rollyson: Hey, good morning, Mickey, John, everyone. Mickey, maybe just starting with the lead time comments, obviously, all you guys are seeing the same thing, and I'm curious, you know, it's great to see the CapEx commitment on the compression side. That just underscores, I think, your view there. As you think about 2027, 2028, and where lead times have escalated to here pretty rapidly, you know, how are customers thinking about that? How are you guys planning for that? Because I'm imagining that not only impacts your ability to grow on the compression side, but it's also on the power side once you get that close. Maybe just some kind of color how you navigate that.
Jim Rollyson: Hey, good morning, Mickey, John, everyone. Mickey, maybe just starting with the lead time comments, obviously, all you guys are seeing the same thing, and I'm curious, you know, it's great to see the CapEx commitment on the compression side. That just underscores, I think, your view there. As you think about 2027, 2028, and where lead times have escalated to here pretty rapidly, you know, how are customers thinking about that? How are you guys planning for that? Because I'm imagining that not only impacts your ability to grow on the compression side, but it's also on the power side once you get that close. Maybe just some kind of color how you navigate that.
Speaker #3: That just underscores , I think , your view there . But as you think about 27 , 28 and where lead times have escalated to here , pretty rapidly , you know , how are customers thinking about that ?
Speaker #3: How are you guys planning for that ? Because I'm imagining that not only impacts your ability to grow on the compression side , but also on the power side .
Speaker #3: Once you get that close—so maybe just some kind of color, how you navigate that?
Speaker #1: Yeah . Hey good morning Jim . Thanks for joining us today . Yeah , it's been a challenge and it's a very fluid environment right now .
Mickey McKee: Yeah, hey, good morning, Jim. Thanks for joining us today. Yeah, it's been a challenge, and it's a very fluid environment right now. We've been working really hard over the last couple weeks to make sure that we secure our supply chain, and, like I said in my prepared comments, we've got shop space and engines actually secured right now throughout 2027 and into 2028, and doing our best to stay ahead of that and make sure that we have adequate supply for what would the amount that we want to grow in the compression segment here. I think, you know, as you know, most of our customers also own their own compression equipment, partially in their fleets.
Mickey McKee: Yeah, hey, good morning, Jim. Thanks for joining us today. Yeah, it's been a challenge, and it's a very fluid environment right now. We've been working really hard over the last couple weeks to make sure that we secure our supply chain, and, like I said in my prepared comments, we've got shop space and engines actually secured right now throughout 2027 and into 2028, and doing our best to stay ahead of that and make sure that we have adequate supply for what would the amount that we want to grow in the compression segment here. I think, you know, as you know, most of our customers also own their own compression equipment, partially in their fleets.
Speaker #1: We've been working really hard couple of weeks to make sure that we secure our supply chain . And we , like I said in my prepared comments , we've got we've got shop space and engines , actually secured right now throughout 2027 and into 2028 .
Speaker #1: And doing our best to stay ahead of that and make sure that we have a supply for what the the amount that we want to grow in the compression segment here .
Speaker #1: So I think , you know , as you know , most of our customers also own their own compression equipment , partially in their fleets .
Speaker #1: And so , you know , all of our customers already understand the the tightness in the supply and the market and are willing to engage in those conversations .
Mickey McKee: You know, all of our customers already understand the tightness in the supply in the market and are willing to engage in those conversations well ahead of time for us to make sure that we have their needs covered. Our commercial team's doing a great job of staying ahead of it, and we're making sure that we're monitoring that situation on a real-time basis, because I can tell you, it is changing by the hour.
Mickey McKee: You know, all of our customers already understand the tightness in the supply in the market and are willing to engage in those conversations well ahead of time for us to make sure that we have their needs covered. Our commercial team's doing a great job of staying ahead of it, and we're making sure that we're monitoring that situation on a real-time basis, because I can tell you, it is changing by the hour.
Speaker #1: Well , and well ahead of time for us to make sure that we have their needs covered . So our commercial team is doing a great job of staying ahead of it .
Speaker #1: And and we're making sure that we're monitoring that situation on a real time basis , because I can tell you it is it is changing by the hour
Speaker #3: Understood . Thanks for that And the other thing , you know , you guys have had a slide in your deck since you ipo'd kind of about , you know , the cost of equipment up 50% , let's say pre-COVID to to relative today .
Jim Rollyson: Understood. Thanks for that. The other thing, you know, you guys have had a slide in your deck since you IPO'd, kind of about, you know, the cost of equipment up 50%, let's say, pre-COVID to relative today. Obviously, that's driven a lot of pricing growth over time as you price new units and mark your fleet up over time. Curious, with recent conversations with Caterpillar, given their lead times today, are they talking about more material pricing increases? If so,
Jim Rollyson: Understood. Thanks for that. The other thing, you know, you guys have had a slide in your deck since you IPO'd, kind of about, you know, the cost of equipment up 50%, let's say, pre-COVID to relative today. Obviously, that's driven a lot of pricing growth over time as you price new units and mark your fleet up over time. Curious, with recent conversations with Caterpillar, given their lead times today, are they talking about more material pricing increases? If so,
Speaker #3: And obviously driven a lot of pricing growth over time . As you price new units and mark your fleet up over time Curious with recent conversations with caterpillar , given their lead times today , are they talking about more material pricing increases ?
Speaker #3: And if so , you know , wouldn't that allow you over time to kind of reap the same benefits going forward ? At some point
Doug Irwin: ... you know, wouldn't that allow you over time to kind of reap the same benefits going forward at some point?
Jim Rollyson: ... you know, wouldn't that allow you over time to kind of reap the same benefits going forward at some point?
Mickey McKee: Yeah, I mean, two parts to that question, right? I mean, I would expect that going forward, we'll have some pricing power and to be able to have constructive conversations with our customers there, because, you know, the cost of replacement equipment, naturally, I would think with 100+ lead times with Caterpillar would increase. Like I said, our customer base is all very cognizant of what's going on there and that pricing dynamic there. We haven't heard of significant price increases coming out of Caterpillar yet, but it's something that I would probably expect.
Speaker #1: Yeah , I mean , two parts to that question , right ? I mean , I would expect that that going forward that we'll have some some pricing power .
Mickey McKee: Yeah, I mean, two parts to that question, right? I mean, I would expect that going forward, we'll have some pricing power and to be able to have constructive conversations with our customers there, because, you know, the cost of replacement equipment, naturally, I would think with 100+ lead times with Caterpillar would increase. Like I said, our customer base is all very cognizant of what's going on there and that pricing dynamic there. We haven't heard of significant price increases coming out of Caterpillar yet, but it's something that I would probably expect.
Speaker #1: And to be able to have constructive conversations with our , our customers there because , you know , the cost of replacement equipment , naturally , I would think with 100 plus lead times with caterpillar would , would increase .
Speaker #1: So like I said , they our customer base is all very cognizant of what's going on there . And in that pricing dynamic there .
Speaker #1: So we haven't heard of significant price increases coming out of caterpillar yet , but it's something that I would probably expect
Speaker #3: Appreciate that, guys. Thanks. I'll turn it back.
Doug Irwin: Appreciate that, guys. Thanks. I'll turn it back.
Jim Rollyson: Appreciate that, guys. Thanks. I'll turn it back.
Speaker #1: Yeah. Thanks, Jim.
Mickey McKee: Yeah, thanks, Jim.
Mickey McKee: Yeah, thanks, Jim.
Speaker #2: Our next question comes from John McKay with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now live.
Operator: Our next question comes from John Mackay with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now live.
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Speaker #4: Hey , guys . Thank you for the time . Maybe we'll pick up on that first question from earlier . Can you you talk a little bit more about what is driving the tightness in the market right now .
John Mackay: Hey, guys. Thank you for the time. Maybe we'll pick up on that first question from earlier. Could you talk a little bit more about what is driving the tightness in the market right now, kind of specifically? I think we understand some of the broader trends, but would love to hear a little bit more from you on kind of why we've gotten so tight so quickly here. Thank you.
John Mackay: Hey, guys. Thank you for the time. Maybe we'll pick up on that first question from earlier. Could you talk a little bit more about what is driving the tightness in the market right now, kind of specifically? I think we understand some of the broader trends, but would love to hear a little bit more from you on kind of why we've gotten so tight so quickly here. Thank you.
Speaker #4: Kind of specifically , I think we understand some of the broader trends , but we'd love to hear a little bit more from you on on kind of why we've gotten so tight .
Speaker #4: So , so quickly here . Thank you
Speaker #1: Yeah . Hey , John . Thanks . Thanks for joining us this morning . Yeah , it's really a pretty interesting discussion that we've had with caterpillar over the last several months on what's driving the tightness in the market here .
Mickey McKee: Yeah, Hey, John. Thanks, thanks for joining us this morning. Yeah, it's really a pretty interesting discussion that we've had with Caterpillar over the last several months on what's driving the tightness in the market here. I think it a lot of people would assume that it is power that is driving kind of the increased lead times here, and it really is a power discussion. A lot of the Permian power or processing plants for rich natural gas that are going in the Permian Basin right now, which there's a lot of them being built, they don't have the access to grid power.
Mickey McKee: Yeah, Hey, John. Thanks, thanks for joining us this morning. Yeah, it's really a pretty interesting discussion that we've had with Caterpillar over the last several months on what's driving the tightness in the market here. I think it a lot of people would assume that it is power that is driving kind of the increased lead times here, and it really is a power discussion. A lot of the Permian power or processing plants for rich natural gas that are going in the Permian Basin right now, which there's a lot of them being built, they don't have the access to grid power.
Speaker #1: And I think a lot of people would assume that it is power that is driving kind of the increased lead times here.
Speaker #1: And it really is A power discussion . But a lot of the Permian power plant or processing plants for rich natural gas that are going in , in the Permian Basin right now , which there's a lot of them being built They don't have the access to grid power .
Speaker #1: So traditionally in in those power plants , you'd see 75,000 horsepower worth of electric motor driven units for inlet compression , for propane compression , for residue compression in those plants within the four walls .
Mickey McKee: Traditionally in those power plants, you'd see 75,000 horsepower worth of electric motor-driven units for inlet compression, for propane compression, for residue compression in those plants within the four walls. Because of the limited access to power that these guys have out there, specifically in the Permian, they're having to turn those electric motors within the four walls of those plants into large horsepower, you know, natural gas-driven engines to drive that compression within those plants.
Mickey McKee: Traditionally in those power plants, you'd see 75,000 horsepower worth of electric motor-driven units for inlet compression, for propane compression, for residue compression in those plants within the four walls. Because of the limited access to power that these guys have out there, specifically in the Permian, they're having to turn those electric motors within the four walls of those plants into large horsepower, you know, natural gas-driven engines to drive that compression within those plants.
Speaker #1: Because of the limited access to power that these guys have out there , specifically in the Permian , they're having to turn those electric motors within the four walls of those plants into large horsepower , you know , natural gas driven engines to drive those , to drive that compression within those plants .
Speaker #1: So I think that that's a dynamic that that really nobody saw coming towards us and is really a driver from the limited access to grid power that people have today .
Mickey McKee: I think that that's a dynamic that really nobody saw coming towards us and is really a driver from the limited access to grid power that people have today and the extended lead times to get hooked up to the grid, which, you know, we've heard it can be 7 to 8 years at some point in time. Like I said, these midstream guys and the people that are building these plants out here are having to turn to gas-driven engines versus electric motor-driven electric motors in those plants. It's creating a kind of a new level of demand that we haven't seen previously.
Mickey McKee: I think that that's a dynamic that really nobody saw coming towards us and is really a driver from the limited access to grid power that people have today and the extended lead times to get hooked up to the grid, which, you know, we've heard it can be 7 to 8 years at some point in time. Like I said, these midstream guys and the people that are building these plants out here are having to turn to gas-driven engines versus electric motor-driven electric motors in those plants. It's creating a kind of a new level of demand that we haven't seen previously.
Speaker #1: And the extended lead times to get hooked up to the grid , which , you know , we've heard it can be 7 to 8 years at some point in time .
Speaker #1: So like these midstream guys and the people that are building these plants out here are having to turn to gas driven engines versus versus electric motor driven electric motors in the in those plants .
Speaker #1: So it's creating a kind of a new level of demand that we haven't seen previously .
Speaker #4: That's interesting . Sounds like a good time to get into the power business . But we can we can talk about that more in April .
John Mackay: That's interesting. Sounds like a good time to get into the power business, but we can talk about that more in April. Second one from me is just on gross margins. Q4 is really strong. You guys have been, you know, generally doing very well on that front. I think the 2026 guide points to it being a little flatter. Would love just to hear your general comments on the trajectory there. Maybe some conservatism baked in, maybe some of the cost savings you've talked about in the past on the AI side. Kind of walk us through that. Thanks.
John Mackay: That's interesting. Sounds like a good time to get into the power business, but we can talk about that more in April. Second one from me is just on gross margins. Q4 is really strong. You guys have been, you know, generally doing very well on that front. I think the 2026 guide points to it being a little flatter. Would love just to hear your general comments on the trajectory there. Maybe some conservatism baked in, maybe some of the cost savings you've talked about in the past on the AI side. Kind of walk us through that. Thanks.
Speaker #4: Second one from me is just on on gross margins . Fourth quarter was really strong . You guys have been generally doing very well on that front .
Speaker #4: I think the 26 guide points to it being a little flatter . Would love just to hear your general comments on the trajectory there .
Speaker #4: Maybe some conservatism baked in, maybe some of the cost savings you've talked about in the past on the AI side. Kind of walk us through that.
Speaker #4: Thanks .
Speaker #1: Yeah , sure . So , John , I'll take it . This is John Griggs . So we thought a lot about that as we put the guide out .
Mickey McKee: Yeah, sure. John, thank you. This is John Griggs. We thought a lot about that as we put the guide out, and we anticipated we'd get some questions. One thing that we know is the Q4 was a really clean quarter, and our business is highly predictable, but you're always gonna have some gremlins that happen within your cost of goods sold, and we really just didn't see many of those. Whether that's, you know, a lot of hard work, a lot of technology, a lot of planning, great operations, and a little bit of luck, we're not exactly sure, but it happened. When I look at, you know, everybody kind of focuses on our dollar per ending horsepower.
John Griggs: Yeah, sure. John, thank you. This is John Griggs. We thought a lot about that as we put the guide out, and we anticipated we'd get some questions. One thing that we know is the Q4 was a really clean quarter, and our business is highly predictable, but you're always gonna have some gremlins that happen within your cost of goods sold, and we really just didn't see many of those. Whether that's, you know, a lot of hard work, a lot of technology, a lot of planning, great operations, and a little bit of luck, we're not exactly sure, but it happened. When I look at, you know, everybody kind of focuses on our dollar per ending horsepower.
Speaker #1: We anticipated we'd get some questions . And one thing that we know is the fourth quarter was a really clean quarter . And our business is highly predictable .
Speaker #1: But you're always going to have some gremlins that happen within your cost of goods sold . And we really didn't see many of those , whether that's , you know , a lot of hard work , a lot of technology , a lot of planning , great operations and a little bit of luck .
Speaker #1: We're not exactly sure , but it happened . And when I look at everybody kind of focuses on our dollar per ending horsepower .
Speaker #1: We also study our dollar per our contract services cost of operations per ending horsepower . And it's been really flat until the fourth quarter , where it dropped meaningfully .
Mickey McKee: We also study our dollar per our contract services cost of operations for ending horsepower. It's been really flat until Q4, where it dropped meaningfully. I think we probably have a little bit of conservatism in case it gets back on trend to where it was for the prior 3 quarters. With that said, I think you hit the nail on the head. That pricing continues to be strong. All the investments we've made in, well, let's say two big buckets: technology, the operational technology. We're starting to see a return on those investments during 2025. We expect to continue to see it in 2026. All the investment we've made in our people around training, those absolutely have an impact on that cost of goods sold. We expected to see it.
John Griggs: We also study our dollar per our contract services cost of operations for ending horsepower. It's been really flat until Q4, where it dropped meaningfully. I think we probably have a little bit of conservatism in case it gets back on trend to where it was for the prior 3 quarters. With that said, I think you hit the nail on the head. That pricing continues to be strong. All the investments we've made in, well, let's say two big buckets: technology, the operational technology. We're starting to see a return on those investments during 2025. We expect to continue to see it in 2026. All the investment we've made in our people around training, those absolutely have an impact on that cost of goods sold. We expected to see it.
Speaker #1: So I think we probably have a little bit of a conservatism in case it gets back on trend to where it was for the prior three quarters.
Speaker #1: Now , with that said , I think you hit the nail on the head in that pricing continues to be strong and all the investments we've made in , let's say , two big buckets technology , the operational technology , we're starting to see a return on those investments during 25 .
Speaker #1: We expect to continue to see it in 26 . And all the investment we've made in our people around training , those absolutely have an impact on that .
Speaker #1: Cost of goods sold . And we expected to see it . So hopefully , you know , as the year goes on , we'll be able to walk that number up .
Mickey McKee: Hopefully, you know, as the year goes on, we'll be able to walk that number up, but that does explain kind of where we guided.
John Griggs: Hopefully, you know, as the year goes on, we'll be able to walk that number up, but that does explain kind of where we guided.
Speaker #1: But that does explain kind of where we guided
Speaker #4: That's great . I appreciate the time . Thank you guys .
John Mackay: That's great. Appreciate the time. Thank you, guys.
John Mackay: That's great. Appreciate the time. Thank you, guys.
Speaker #1: Yeah thanks , John .
Mickey McKee: Yeah, thanks, John.
Mickey McKee: Yeah, thanks, John.
Speaker #2: Our next question is from Doug Erwin with Citi . Your line is now live
Operator: Our next question is from Doug Irwin with Citi. Your line is now live.
Operator: Our next question is from Doug Irwin with Citi. Your line is now live.
Speaker #5: Hey, thanks for the question. Maybe to add one more on lead times to start. Great to hear that customers are already having conversations out into 2028.
Doug Irwin: Hey, thanks for the question. Maybe to add one more on lead times to start. Great to hear that customers are already having conversations out into 2028. Just curious, just in the context of potential 2-year lead times, if that changes just your general risk appetite to potentially look to maybe order some capacity on spec, just to be able to make sure you're able to secure it in advance?
Doug Irwin: Hey, thanks for the question. Maybe to add one more on lead times to start. Great to hear that customers are already having conversations out into 2028. Just curious, just in the context of potential 2-year lead times, if that changes just your general risk appetite to potentially look to maybe order some capacity on spec, just to be able to make sure you're able to secure it in advance?
Speaker #5: But just curious , just in the context of potential two year lead times , if that changes , just your general risk appetite to potentially look to maybe order some capacity on spec just to be able to make sure you're able to secure it in advance
Speaker #6: Yeah . Hey . Good morning . Doug , this is Mickey . Yeah . I mean , look , it's a different conversation that we're having with our board today than it was six months ago .
Mickey McKee: Hey, good morning, Doug, this is Mickey. I mean, look, it's a different conversation that we're having with our board today than it was 6 months ago, to where, you know, we were looking at capacity and lead times that were inside of a year and having contracts to back those up. We're having to do a little bit more of spec ordering today and making sure that we've got some shop space locked up and engines locked up. You know, we are having to take a little bit more risk there. However, I would say that, you know, that is mitigated a little bit by the fact that we don't have to commit to 100% of that CapEx cost, you know, 2 years out.
Mickey McKee: Hey, good morning, Doug, this is Mickey. I mean, look, it's a different conversation that we're having with our board today than it was 6 months ago, to where, you know, we were looking at capacity and lead times that were inside of a year and having contracts to back those up. We're having to do a little bit more of spec ordering today and making sure that we've got some shop space locked up and engines locked up. You know, we are having to take a little bit more risk there. However, I would say that, you know, that is mitigated a little bit by the fact that we don't have to commit to 100% of that CapEx cost, you know, 2 years out.
Speaker #6: To where , you know , we were looking at capacity and lead times that were inside of a year . And having contracts to back those up .
Speaker #6: So we're having to do a little bit more of , of , of spec ordering today and making sure that we've got some , some shop space locked up and engines locked up , you know .
Speaker #6: So so we are having to , to take a little bit more risk there . However , I would say that , you know , that is mitigated a little bit by the fact that we don't have to commit to 100% of that CapEx cost .
Speaker #6: You know , two years out , we might have some some engine , some some extra engines and that kind of thing that are , that are , that are there if the demand doesn't come through , like we fully expect it to .
Mickey McKee: We might have some extra engines and that kind of thing that are there if the demand doesn't come through like we fully expect it to. There is a little bit more risk appetite to order some equipment on spec out a little bit farther out right now. again, like I said, that's not for 100% of that cost. It's for, you know, a portion of that cost.
Mickey McKee: We might have some extra engines and that kind of thing that are there if the demand doesn't come through like we fully expect it to. There is a little bit more risk appetite to order some equipment on spec out a little bit farther out right now. again, like I said, that's not for 100% of that cost. It's for, you know, a portion of that cost.
Speaker #6: But so so there is a little bit more risk appetite to order some equipment on spec out , out a little bit farther out right now .
Speaker #6: But but again , like I said that's that's not for 100% of that cost . It's for for , you know , a portion of that cost .
Speaker #1: And I do want to add on there too , I think it's really important as we think about this , a we have like a macro view of the future where we think production levels are going to be and we've stated over and over and over again , really since IPO that we think we can grow our fleet volumetrically by that 3 to 5% per year .
John Griggs: I do wanna add on there, too. I think it's really important as we think about this, A, we have, like, a macro view of the future, where we think production levels are gonna be, and we've stated over and over and over again, really since IPO, that we think we can grow our fleet volumetrically by that 3% to 5% per year. Everything. And I should say we have really, really, like, sophisticated customers today with long-term development plans, and we're in close communication with them. We view them as partners. Virtually everything that we're buying that is ahead of that commitment, we think it's completely in line with kind of our base case and where that market is headed and where our customers will be. It feels, like a really low-risk proposition to us.
John Griggs: I do wanna add on there, too. I think it's really important as we think about this, A, we have, like, a macro view of the future, where we think production levels are gonna be, and we've stated over and over and over again, really since IPO, that we think we can grow our fleet volumetrically by that 3% to 5% per year. Everything. And I should say we have really, really, like, sophisticated customers today with long-term development plans, and we're in close communication with them. We view them as partners. Virtually everything that we're buying that is ahead of that commitment, we think it's completely in line with kind of our base case and where that market is headed and where our customers will be. It feels, like a really low-risk proposition to us.
Speaker #1: So everything and I should say we have really , really like sophisticated customers today with long term development plans . And we're in close communication with them .
Speaker #1: We view them as partners. So virtually everything that we're buying that is ahead of that commitment—we think it's completely in line with kind of our base case on where that market is headed and where our customers will be.
Speaker #1: So it feels like a really low risk proposition to us
Speaker #5: Got it . That's helpful . And then maybe a quick one on power realize you haven't given guidance there . But just curious in the context of the guidance you just gave for the base business , just how you're thinking about your capacity to to invest in power here over the near term
Doug Irwin: Got it. That's helpful. Then maybe a quick one on power. Realize you haven't given guidance there, but just curious in the context of the guidance you just gave for the base business, just how you're thinking about your capacity to invest in power here over the near term.
Doug Irwin: Got it. That's helpful. Then maybe a quick one on power. Realize you haven't given guidance there, but just curious in the context of the guidance you just gave for the base business, just how you're thinking about your capacity to invest in power here over the near term.
Speaker #6: Yeah , Doug , I mean , look , we bought the the DPS platform because we , we we've been looking at the power business for , for over a year now , looking for the right entry point .
Mickey McKee: Yeah, Doug, I mean, look, we bought the DPS platform because we've been looking at the power business for over a year now, looking for the right entry point. We wanted to make sure that we could pair up our operational expertise with high-quality commercial and engineering expertise on the power side, and we settled on the DPS acquisition because they really checked all those boxes. It's a really high-quality platform that we think we can put a strong operational platform behind, as well as a strong balance sheet behind. Our full intention is to grow that business. We'll come back at after we close and give a little bit better guidance on kind of what we think the growth opportunity looks like.
Mickey McKee: Yeah, Doug, I mean, look, we bought the DPS platform because we've been looking at the power business for over a year now, looking for the right entry point. We wanted to make sure that we could pair up our operational expertise with high-quality commercial and engineering expertise on the power side, and we settled on the DPS acquisition because they really checked all those boxes. It's a really high-quality platform that we think we can put a strong operational platform behind, as well as a strong balance sheet behind. Our full intention is to grow that business. We'll come back at after we close and give a little bit better guidance on kind of what we think the growth opportunity looks like.
Speaker #6: We want to make sure that we could pair up our operational expertise with with high quality commercial and engineering expertise on the power side .
Speaker #6: And we settled on on this on the DPS acquisition because they really checked all those boxes . It's really high quality platform that that think we can put a strong operational platform behind , as well as a strong balance sheet behind .
Speaker #6: And our full intention is to grow that business and we'll come back at after after we close and give a little bit better guidance on kind of what we think the growth opportunity looks like .
Speaker #6: But we fully intend to grow that business . And we think that there's some opportunities to acquire some , some megawatts of power .
Mickey McKee: We fully intend to grow that business, and we think that there's some opportunity to acquire some megawatts of power even this year, to be able to deploy this year. We're leveraging our relationships that we have with existing vendors and our Caterpillar network to make sure that we can secure some of that equipment and put it to work this year, and then come back to you know, after close, with kind of a more fulsome view of what we think the long-term growth outlook looks like for that business. We fully plan on growing it starting this year and putting some significant growth capital behind that side of the business as well.
Mickey McKee: We fully intend to grow that business, and we think that there's some opportunity to acquire some megawatts of power even this year, to be able to deploy this year. We're leveraging our relationships that we have with existing vendors and our Caterpillar network to make sure that we can secure some of that equipment and put it to work this year, and then come back to you know, after close, with kind of a more fulsome view of what we think the long-term growth outlook looks like for that business. We fully plan on growing it starting this year and putting some significant growth capital behind that side of the business as well.
Speaker #6: Even this year , to be able to deploy this year . And we're leveraging our relationships that we have with existing vendors and our caterpillar network to make sure that we can secure some of that equipment and put it to work this year .
Speaker #6: And and then come back to you , you know , after close with kind of a more fulsome view of what we think the long term growth outlook looks like for that business .
Speaker #6: But we fully plan on growing it starting this year, and putting some significant growth capital behind that side of the business as well.
Speaker #5: Got it . Thanks for your time .
Doug Irwin: Got it. Thanks for the time.
Doug Irwin: Got it. Thanks for the time.
Speaker #6: Yep . Thanks , Doug .
Mickey McKee: Yeah. Thanks, Doug.
Mickey McKee: Yeah. Thanks, Doug.
Speaker #2: Our next question is from Gabby Semi with William Blair. Your line is now live.
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Speaker #7: Hey , this is Neal Dingman . Hey guys , can you just talk about Mickey ? You've always talked about just , you know , external growth .
Neal Dingmann: Hey, this is Neal Dingmann. Hey, guys, can you just talk about Micky, you've always talked about, just, you know, external growth, and I know, again, you have the backlog right now with compression. I'm just wondering, would you approach some of your, you know, some of your customers more aggressively to try to add that way? Thank you.
Neal Dingmann: Hey, this is Neal Dingmann. Hey, guys, can you just talk about Micky, you've always talked about, just, you know, external growth, and I know, again, you have the backlog right now with compression. I'm just wondering, would you approach some of your, you know, some of your customers more aggressively to try to add that way? Thank you.
Speaker #7: And I know again , you have the backlog right now with compression . So I'm just wondering would you approach some of your , you know , compressed .
Speaker #7: Some of your customers more aggressively to try to add that way ? Thank you
Mickey McKee: Yeah, Neil, you kind of broke up a little bit on us there. Do you mind repeating the question? Well, we might have lost... Yeah, are you there, Neil? Well, I think that the gist of the question. Sorry about that. I think the gist of the question was kind of approaching our customers with kind of a two-pronged approach on compression as well as power needs, and we certainly think that that is an opportunity for us going forward. We've got a lot of customers, specifically in the Permian, that are looking at microgrid development and establishing their own power out there in the Permian.
Mickey McKee: Yeah, Neil, you kind of broke up a little bit on us there. Do you mind repeating the question? Well, we might have lost... Yeah, are you there, Neil? Well, I think that the gist of the question. Sorry about that. I think the gist of the question was kind of approaching our customers with kind of a two-pronged approach on compression as well as power needs, and we certainly think that that is an opportunity for us going forward. We've got a lot of customers, specifically in the Permian, that are looking at microgrid development and establishing their own power out there in the Permian.
Speaker #6: Yeah . Neil , you kind of broke up a little bit on us there . Can you do you mind repeating the question Well I you might have lost .
Speaker #6: Yeah . Are you there , Neil Well , I think that the the gist of the question . Sorry about that . I think the gist of the question was , was kind of approaching our , our customers with kind of a two pronged approach on , on compression and as well as as power needs .
Speaker #6: And we certainly think that that that is an opportunity for us going forward . We've got a lot of customers specifically in the Permian , that that that are looking at microgrid development and , and establishing their own power out there in the Permian .
Speaker #6: And we definitely are having those conversations with them already. And I definitely think we can leverage those relationships and the operational expertise to grow that business with our existing customer base as well.
Mickey McKee: We definitely are having those conversations with them already, and definitely think we can leverage those relationships and the operational expertise to grow that business with our existing customer base as well.
Mickey McKee: We definitely are having those conversations with them already, and definitely think we can leverage those relationships and the operational expertise to grow that business with our existing customer base as well.
Speaker #7: That was exactly it , Mickey . Thank you . And then just secondly , on the LNG , Mickey , you've always talked about kind of a formula .
Neal Dingmann: That was exactly it, Mickey. Thank you. Then just secondly, on the LNG. Mickey, you've always talked about kind of a formula. I think early in the IPO process, you even talked about a formula for potential LNG demand. Does that formula still exist? You know, so you can kind of remind me about where potential is around maybe the LNG upside demand.
Neal Dingmann: That was exactly it, Mickey. Thank you. Then just secondly, on the LNG. Mickey, you've always talked about kind of a formula. I think early in the IPO process, you even talked about a formula for potential LNG demand. Does that formula still exist? You know, so you can kind of remind me about where potential is around maybe the LNG upside demand.
Speaker #7: I think early in the IPO process, you even talked about a formula for potential LNG demand. Does that formula still exist?
Speaker #7: And if so, can you kind of remind me about where potential is around? Maybe the LNG upside demand.
Speaker #6: Yeah , absolutely . Look , we think that , you know , there's a significant amount of LNG feed gas that's going to be required throughout the United States .
Mickey McKee: Yeah, absolutely. Look, we think that, you know, there's a significant amount of LNG feed gas that's gonna be required throughout the United States. As you know, we talk about the Permian a lot, but we're also in every major oil and gas-producing region in the United States, with commercial and operational presence there. We're positioned well to provide compression for no matter where that gas is gonna come from. We know there's gonna be a significant amount of gas production, but for both behind-the-meter power and for LNG feedstock. We think we're in a great position to be able to be there. You know, I think you're referencing, you know, we're significantly in the Permian Basin. You're probably referencing the compression intensity metric that we talk about.
Mickey McKee: Yeah, absolutely. Look, we think that, you know, there's a significant amount of LNG feed gas that's gonna be required throughout the United States. As you know, we talk about the Permian a lot, but we're also in every major oil and gas-producing region in the United States, with commercial and operational presence there. We're positioned well to provide compression for no matter where that gas is gonna come from. We know there's gonna be a significant amount of gas production, but for both behind-the-meter power and for LNG feedstock. We think we're in a great position to be able to be there. You know, I think you're referencing, you know, we're significantly in the Permian Basin. You're probably referencing the compression intensity metric that we talk about.
Speaker #6: And as you know , we talk about the Permian a lot , but we're also in every major oil and gas producing region in the United States with with commercial and operational presence there .
Speaker #6: So we're positioned well to , to , to provide compression for , for no matter where that gas is going to come from , we know there's going to be a significant amount of gas production for both behind the meter power and for LNG feedstock .
Speaker #6: So we think we're in a great position to be able to be there . You know , I think you're referencing referencing , you know , we're significantly in the Permian Basin .
Speaker #6: You probably referencing the compression intensity metric that we talk about . One of the reasons why the last five years of our business have been so robust is because of the amount of compression it takes to produce one molecule of natural gas out of the Permian Basin .
Mickey McKee: One of the reasons why the last 5 years of our business have been so robust is because of the amount of compression it takes to produce 1 molecule of natural gas out of the Permian Basin, because there's compression needed for gas lift, there's compression needed within the 4 walls of processing plants, gathering, all those things.
Mickey McKee: One of the reasons why the last 5 years of our business have been so robust is because of the amount of compression it takes to produce 1 molecule of natural gas out of the Permian Basin, because there's compression needed for gas lift, there's compression needed within the 4 walls of processing plants, gathering, all those things.
Speaker #6: Because there's compression needed for gas lift , there's compression needed within the four walls of processing plants , gathering all those things . So we still firmly believe that the Permian Basin , with , with , with oil prices being relatively resilient over , over $60 , that there's great economics for our our customer base to not only continue to to at a minimum , keep oil production flat , but but given gas to oil ratio increases and that kind of thing , there's going to be significant gas growth out of the Permian , which is going to require a ton of compression to produce that , especially with these new takeaway capacity lines coming , coming in into play in , in the in the Permian Basin .
Mickey McKee: We still firmly believe that the Permian Basin, with oil prices being relatively resilient over $60, that there's great economics for our customer base to not only continue to at a minimum, keep oil production flat, but given gas-to-oil ratio increases and that kind of thing, there's gonna be significant gas growth out of the Permian, which is gonna require a ton of compression to produce that, especially with these new takeaway capacity lines coming into play in the Permian Basin. We're really excited about the opportunity. We think it's gonna be a massive amount of natural gas growth over the next throughout the end of the decade and into the 2030s.
Mickey McKee: We still firmly believe that the Permian Basin, with oil prices being relatively resilient over $60, that there's great economics for our customer base to not only continue to at a minimum, keep oil production flat, but given gas-to-oil ratio increases and that kind of thing, there's gonna be significant gas growth out of the Permian, which is gonna require a ton of compression to produce that, especially with these new takeaway capacity lines coming into play in the Permian Basin. We're really excited about the opportunity. We think it's gonna be a massive amount of natural gas growth over the next throughout the end of the decade and into the 2030s.We're positioned well to take advantage of that, both on the compression and the power side.
Speaker #6: So we're really excited about the opportunity . We think it's going to be a massive amount of of natural gas growth over the next .
Speaker #6: Throughout the end of the decade and into the 2030s , and we're positioned well to take advantage of that , both on the on the compression and the power side
Mickey McKee: We're positioned well to take advantage of that, both on the compression and the power side.
Speaker #7: Thanks , Mickey
Nate Pendleton: Thanks, Mickey.
Nate Pendleton: Thanks, Mickey.
Speaker #6: Thanks , Neil .
Mickey McKee: Yeah, thanks, Neal.
Mickey McKee: Yeah, thanks, Neal.
Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Eli Johnson with JP Morgan Chase . Your line is now live .
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Speaker #4: Hey , thanks everybody . Maybe just . wanted to start on the visibility you're seeing in the contract compression business . You know , you talked a little bit about seeing 750,000 horsepower through 2030 .
Eli Jossen: Hey, thanks, everybody. Maybe just wanted to start on the visibility you're seeing in the contract compression business. You know, you talked a little bit about seeing 750,000 horsepower through 2030. You know, maybe just the conversations you're having with customers that kinda support that. You know, it seems that would support sort of this mid-single digit, even a growth in just the contract compression business alone, based on your historical execution. Is that a fair way to think about it, just continuing this strong growth that we've seen? Thanks.
Eli Jossen: Hey, thanks, everybody. Maybe just wanted to start on the visibility you're seeing in the contract compression business. You know, you talked a little bit about seeing 750,000 horsepower through 2030. You know, maybe just the conversations you're having with customers that kinda support that. You know, it seems that would support sort of this mid-single digit, even a growth in just the contract compression business alone, based on your historical execution. Is that a fair way to think about it, just continuing this strong growth that we've seen? Thanks.
Speaker #4: You know maybe just the conversations you're having with customers that kind of support that . And then , you know , it seems that would support sort of this mid-single digit EBITDA growth in just the contract compression business alone .
Speaker #4: Based on your historical execution , is that a fair way to think about it ? Just continuing this strong growth that we've seen ?
Speaker #4: Thanks .
Speaker #6: Yeah . Hey , good morning Eli . Good good to hear from you this morning . Yeah that that is absolutely our intent is to continue that that up into the right trajectory in the compression business and then layer the power business on top of that .
Mickey McKee: Hey, good morning, Eli. Good to hear from you this morning. That is absolutely our intent, is to continue that up into the right trajectory in the compression business and then layer the power business on top of that. We've got very high visibility into our growth. Like I said, we're engaging in conversations with customers right now for 2028 capacity. There's a very large appetite for multiple of our customers that we're in discussions with right now for multi-year recontracting and renewals on the existing equipment that we're seeing elongated types of renewal time frames right there.
Mickey McKee: Hey, good morning, Eli. Good to hear from you this morning. That is absolutely our intent, is to continue that up into the right trajectory in the compression business and then layer the power business on top of that. We've got very high visibility into our growth. Like I said, we're engaging in conversations with customers right now for 2028 capacity. There's a very large appetite for multiple of our customers that we're in discussions with right now for multi-year recontracting and renewals on the existing equipment that we're seeing elongated types of renewal time frames right there.
Speaker #6: We've got very high visibility into our growth . Like I said , we're engaging in conversations with customers right now for 2028 capacity and and there's a very large appetite for for multiple of our customers that we're in discussions with right now for multiple multiyear recontracting and renewals on existing equipment that we're seeing in elongated types of of renewal timeframes right there .
Speaker #6: We're in discussions with multiple customers about , you know , seven and ten year renewals on that stuff , which is a really great development for our business .
Mickey McKee: We're in discussions with multiple customers about, you know, 7 and 10-year renewals on that stuff, which is a really great development for our business and the visibility of our existing asset base, and the growth of that over time. We've never really given multiple year kind of guidance or indications of what we expect for horsepower growth, but we feel pretty good about it right now, and that's why we've brought it into this call in our prepared remarks today, that we really do see a multi-year growth case that is gonna underpin kind of our cash flows and stable earnings for a long time.
Mickey McKee: We're in discussions with multiple customers about, you know, 7 and 10-year renewals on that stuff, which is a really great development for our business and the visibility of our existing asset base, and the growth of that over time. We've never really given multiple year kind of guidance or indications of what we expect for horsepower growth, but we feel pretty good about it right now, and that's why we've brought it into this call in our prepared remarks today, that we really do see a multi-year growth case that is gonna underpin kind of our cash flows and stable earnings for a long time.
Speaker #6: And the visibility of our existing asset base and the growth of that over time. So we've never really given multi-year kind of guidance, or indications of what we expect for horsepower growth.
Speaker #6: But we feel pretty good about it right now . And that's why we've brought it into this , this call and our our prepared remarks today that that we really do see a multiyear growth case that is going to underpin kind of our cash flows and , and stable earnings for , for a long , long time .
Speaker #4: It's awesome . You know , and maybe just sticking with the contract services business I know you know you guys talked a bit about sort of operational execution driving gross margins higher .
Eli Jossen: That's awesome. you know, maybe just sticking with the contract services business. I know, you know, you guys talked a bit about sort of operational execution driving gross margins higher, and you know, you did give us a guide there, but maybe just on the, you know, the overall pricing outlook. I think previously you've talked about exiting this year at around $24 per horsepower per month. Any reason to think that would be different, you know, or higher, or just, you know, high level, what you're seeing right now on the overall sort of fleet pricing? Thanks.
Eli Jossen: That's awesome. you know, maybe just sticking with the contract services business. I know, you know, you guys talked a bit about sort of operational execution driving gross margins higher, and you know, you did give us a guide there, but maybe just on the, you know, the overall pricing outlook. I think previously you've talked about exiting this year at around $24 per horsepower per month. Any reason to think that would be different, you know, or higher, or just, you know, high level, what you're seeing right now on the overall sort of fleet pricing? Thanks.
Speaker #4: And you know you did give us a guide there . But maybe just on the , you know , the overall pricing outlook , I think previously you've talked about exiting this year at around $24 per horsepower per month .
Speaker #4: Any reason to think that would be different ? You know , or higher . Just , you know , high level . What you're seeing right now on the overall sort of fleet pricing .
Speaker #4: Thanks
Speaker #6: Yeah . As we said , you know , conversations with customers have been been very constructive and continue to be we're not seeing any significant change in in pricing on equipment going forward .
Mickey McKee: Yeah, as we said, you know, conversations with customers have been very constructive and continue to be. We're not seeing any significant change in pricing on equipment going forward. You know, I think John did mention it in his prepared remarks. We do have less of a percentage of our fleet that's up for recontracting this year. I think last year we recontracted 40% of the fleet. This year, it's kind of in the low 20%. I would say that our ability to raise prices on the existing fleet is just as strong as it ever has, albeit it might be a little bit more muted of a contribution this year because of the limited amount of equipment that we have kinda coming up for recontracting.
Mickey McKee: Yeah, as we said, you know, conversations with customers have been very constructive and continue to be. We're not seeing any significant change in pricing on equipment going forward. You know, I think John did mention it in his prepared remarks. We do have less of a percentage of our fleet that's up for recontracting this year. I think last year we recontracted 40% of the fleet. This year, it's kind of in the low 20%. I would say that our ability to raise prices on the existing fleet is just as strong as it ever has, albeit it might be a little bit more muted of a contribution this year because of the limited amount of equipment that we have kinda coming up for recontracting.
Speaker #6: You know , I think John did mention in his prepared remarks , we do have less of a percentage of our fleet that up for recontracting this year , I think last year we recontracted 40% of the fleet .
Speaker #6: This year it's it's kind of in the low 20% . So I would say that that our ability to raise prices on the existing fleet is , is just as strong as it ever has , albeit it might be a little bit more muted of a of a contribution this year because of the limited amount of equipment that we have .
Speaker #6: Kind of coming up for Recontracting . That being said , our goal is still to reach that $24 a horsepower by the end of the year , and we feel pretty good that we're going to get there by the end of the year .
Mickey McKee: That being said, our goal is still to reach that $24 a horsepower by the end of the year, and we feel pretty good that we're gonna get there, by the end of the year and feel good about that target.
Mickey McKee: That being said, our goal is still to reach that $24 a horsepower by the end of the year, and we feel pretty good that we're gonna get there, by the end of the year and feel good about that target.
Speaker #6: And feel good about that target .
Speaker #4: Awesome . I'll leave it there . Thanks , guys .
Eli Jossen: Awesome. I'll leave it there. Thanks, guys.
Eli Jossen: Awesome. I'll leave it there. Thanks, guys.
Speaker #6: Thanks , Eli .
Mickey McKee: Thanks, Eli.
Mickey McKee: Thanks, Eli.
Speaker #2: Our next question comes from Nate Pendleton with Texas Capital Bank . Your line is now live .
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Speaker #8: Good morning. Congrats on the quarter. I wanted to dive a bit deeper into your prepared remarks regarding applying AI and machine learning to improve the business.
Nate Pendleton: Good morning. Congrats on the quarter. I wanted to dive a bit deeper into your prepared remarks regarding applying AI and machine learning to improve the business. Can you provide your view on how these developments can further improve financials from here? Perhaps, how well those technologies can apply to the newly acquired power assets?
Nate Pendleton: Good morning. Congrats on the quarter. I wanted to dive a bit deeper into your prepared remarks regarding applying AI and machine learning to improve the business. Can you provide your view on how these developments can further improve financials from here? Perhaps, how well those technologies can apply to the newly acquired power assets?
Speaker #8: Can you provide your view on how these developments can further improve financials from here ? And perhaps how well those technologies can apply to the newly acquired power assets
Speaker #6: Yeah . Hey , good morning Nate . Thanks for joining us . Yeah , we're really excited about what we've done in the technology space .
Mickey McKee: Yeah. Hey, good morning, Nate. Thanks for joining us. Yeah, we're really excited about what we've done in the technology space. We think we've got some first-mover type of advantages there. We've really done a great job through our technology group and our operations group in adopting that kind of stuff. We've already rolled out kind of conditions-based maintenances to where we're not just saying, "Hey, you need to change this oil in this equipment every 90 days," but we're letting the equipment tell us today when that oil needs to be changed, based on kind of operating conditions and oil sampling and that kind of stuff. And we're able to recognize when that equipment is operating outside of the bounds of kind of where it should be.
Mickey McKee: Yeah. Hey, good morning, Nate. Thanks for joining us. Yeah, we're really excited about what we've done in the technology space. We think we've got some first-mover type of advantages there. We've really done a great job through our technology group and our operations group in adopting that kind of stuff. We've already rolled out kind of conditions-based maintenances to where we're not just saying, "Hey, you need to change this oil in this equipment every 90 days," but we're letting the equipment tell us today when that oil needs to be changed, based on kind of operating conditions and oil sampling and that kind of stuff. And we're able to recognize when that equipment is operating outside of the bounds of kind of where it should be.
Speaker #6: We think we've got some first mover type of advantages there . We've really done a great job through our technology group and our operations group .
Speaker #6: And adopting that kind of stuff . And we've already rolled out kind of conditions based maintenances to where we're not just saying , hey , you need to change this oil .
Speaker #6: And in this equipment , every 90 days , but we're letting the equipment tell us today when that oil needs to be changed based on based on kind of operating conditions and oil sampling and that kind of stuff .
Speaker #6: And we're , we're we're able to recognize when that equipment is operating outside of the bounds of , of kind of where it should be .
Speaker #6: And that's provided a pretty significant uplift in our , in our gross margins , because we're able to kind of extend maintenance intervals based on the health of the machine , not necessarily based on time .
Mickey McKee: That's provided a pretty significant uplift in our gross margins, because we're able to kind of extend maintenance intervals based on the health of the machine, not necessarily based on time. I've said it many times before, we used to change the oil in our cars every 3,000 miles. Now, we're going 10,000 miles in our cars and trucks, and they tell us when they need the oil changed in them. That's a result of technology and looking at the status of the equipment rather than how it is actually, rather than a time-based type of an interval.
Mickey McKee: That's provided a pretty significant uplift in our gross margins, because we're able to kind of extend maintenance intervals based on the health of the machine, not necessarily based on time. I've said it many times before, we used to change the oil in our cars every 3,000 miles. Now, we're going 10,000 miles in our cars and trucks, and they tell us when they need the oil changed in them. That's a result of technology and looking at the status of the equipment rather than how it is actually, rather than a time-based type of an interval.
Speaker #6: I've said it many , many times before . We used to change the oil in our cars every , every 3000 miles . Now we're going 10,000 miles in our cars and trucks , and they tell us when they need the oil changed in them .
Speaker #6: So that's a result of technology . And and looking at the , the , the status of the equipment rather than how it it is actually rather than a time based type of of , of a of an interval .
Speaker #6: We're also applying that on our , on our major maintenance cycles as well . And extending those major maintenance cycles , which is why you've seen growth in the fleet .
Mickey McKee: We're also applying that on our, on our major maintenance cycles as well, and extending those major maintenance cycles, which is why you've seen growth in the fleet, but our maintenance capital line items staying flat throughout the year, the last couple of years, and we're happy to see that. The upside that we have there is we haven't applied those that stuff across the whole fleet yet. We've tested it in 2024 and 2025. We've rolled it out to a much larger portion of the fleet now, and now we have the ability to roll it out to an even larger portion of the fleets going forward. We should see continued impact on technology through deploying that technology.
Mickey McKee: We're also applying that on our, on our major maintenance cycles as well, and extending those major maintenance cycles, which is why you've seen growth in the fleet, but our maintenance capital line items staying flat throughout the year, the last couple of years, and we're happy to see that. The upside that we have there is we haven't applied those that stuff across the whole fleet yet. We've tested it in 2024 and 2025. We've rolled it out to a much larger portion of the fleet now, and now we have the ability to roll it out to an even larger portion of the fleets going forward. We should see continued impact on technology through deploying that technology.
Speaker #6: But our maintenance capital line items have been staying flat throughout the year, the last couple of years, and we're happy to see that. The upside that we have there is we haven't applied that stuff across the whole fleet yet.
Speaker #6: We've we've we've tested it in 24 and 25 . We've rolled it out to a much larger portion of the fleet . Now .
Speaker #6: And now we have the ability to roll it out to to an even larger portion of the fleet going forward . So we should see continued impact on technology through through deploying that technology .
Speaker #6: And then looking at how that applies to the power world. We think that we have a long, long history of operating Cat equipment.
Mickey McKee: Looking at how that applies to the power world, we think that we have a long, long history of operating Cat equipment. We've got, we're acquiring a business that has a significant amount of power that's driven by 3516 Caterpillar engines. We think we can apply the same metrics on the power side and apply our technology there. We're really excited to be kind of first movers in that space, too, as kind of one of the first companies that has significant operating history in Caterpillar equipment, to be able to apply that expertise and operating kind of regimen to really the same engines that are just driving power generators versus gas compressors.
Mickey McKee: Looking at how that applies to the power world, we think that we have a long, long history of operating Cat equipment. We've got, we're acquiring a business that has a significant amount of power that's driven by 3516 Caterpillar engines. We think we can apply the same metrics on the power side and apply our technology there. We're really excited to be kind of first movers in that space, too, as kind of one of the first companies that has significant operating history in Caterpillar equipment, to be able to apply that expertise and operating kind of regimen to really the same engines that are just driving power generators versus gas compressors. We're excited about that, and we think we'll be able to have the same kind of impacts there on that operation.
Speaker #6: We've got we're acquiring a business that has a significant amount of power . That's that's driven by 35 , 16 caterpillar engines . And we think we can apply the same metrics to on the power side and apply our technology there .
Speaker #6: So we're really excited to be kind of first movers in that space to kind of one of the first companies that has significant operating history and caterpillar equipment to be able to to to apply that expertise and operating kind of of regimen to , to really the same engines that are just driving power generators versus gas compressors .
Speaker #6: So we're excited about that . And we think we'll be able to have the same kind of impact there on that operation
Mickey McKee: We're excited about that, and we think we'll be able to have the same kind of impacts there on that operation.
Speaker #8: Thanks to detail , there . And then as my follow up , I guess going to the DPS acquisition , I know there's limited , you can say at this point , but can you provide any high level details about the inbound interest since announcing the deal that you alluded to in the prepared remarks
Nate Pendleton: Thanks for the detail there. As my follow-up, I guess going to the DPS acquisition, I know there is limited you can say at this point, but can you provide any high-level details about the inbound interest since announcing the deal that you alluded to in the prepared remarks?
Nate Pendleton: Thanks for the detail there. As my follow-up, I guess going to the DPS acquisition, I know there is limited you can say at this point, but can you provide any high-level details about the inbound interest since announcing the deal that you alluded to in the prepared remarks?
Speaker #6: Yeah , I can't talk a ton about it . Obviously yet , but you know , we have to say a little bit at arm's length with with DPS right now on the commercial side , just for antitrust issues and that kind of thing .
Mickey McKee: Yeah, I can't talk a ton about it obviously yet, but, you know, we have to stay a little bit at arm's length with the DPS right now on the commercial side, just for antitrust issues and that kind of thing. I think everybody understands that. However, independent of our discussions with DPS, we have had inbound calls from multiple data centers and multiple customers that are recognize the fact that we're bringing an operational expertise into a world that is. There's a lot of competition out there, and however, that competition doesn't have nearly the experience that we do in operating large horsepower equipment.
Mickey McKee: Yeah, I can't talk a ton about it obviously yet, but, you know, we have to stay a little bit at arm's length with the DPS right now on the commercial side, just for antitrust issues and that kind of thing. I think everybody understands that. However, independent of our discussions with DPS, we have had inbound calls from multiple data centers and multiple customers that are recognize the fact that we're bringing an operational expertise into a world that is. There's a lot of competition out there, and however, that competition doesn't have nearly the experience that we do in operating large horsepower equipment.
Speaker #6: I think everybody understands that . However , independent of of our discussions with DPS , we have had inbound calls from multiple data centers and multiple customers that have have that are recognized .
Speaker #6: The fact that we're bringing an operational expertise into a world that that is , there's a lot of competition out there and however that competition doesn't have nearly the experience that we do in operating large horsepower equipment and and they the , the customer base out there is really starting to to take notice of the of of .
Mickey McKee: The customer base out there is really starting to take notice of the ability that we'll have to apply that operational expertise in the power world as well. You know, I said it a little bit earlier, we really were hunting for a company that really had a significant commercial expertise in the power division, as well as engineering expertise. DPS is one of the only companies that's has a multiyear contract and has been operating for multiple years already on a data center project, right?
Mickey McKee: The customer base out there is really starting to take notice of the ability that we'll have to apply that operational expertise in the power world as well. You know, I said it a little bit earlier, we really were hunting for a company that really had a significant commercial expertise in the power division, as well as engineering expertise. DPS is one of the only companies that's has a multiyear contract and has been operating for multiple years already on a data center project, right?
Speaker #6: The ability that we'll have to apply that operational expertise in the power world as well . You know , I said it a little bit earlier , we really were hunting for a company that really had a significant commercial expertise in the power division , as well as engineering expertise .
Speaker #6: DPS is one of the only companies that's has a multi-year contract and has been operating for multiple years already on a data center project.
Speaker #6: Right . So they have experience . They understand AI , load data load management . That is required for some of the the , the , the challenges that go along with powering a data center .
Mickey McKee: They have experience, they understand AI load management, that is required for some of the challenges that go along with powering a data center. We feel like we've got a really, really great opportunity to make a big impact in that business, by combining the commercial and engineering expertise of DPS with Kodiak's operational expertise.
Mickey McKee: They have experience, they understand AI load management, that is required for some of the challenges that go along with powering a data center. We feel like we've got a really, really great opportunity to make a big impact in that business, by combining the commercial and engineering expertise of DPS with Kodiak's operational expertise.
Speaker #6: And we feel like we've got a really , really great opportunity to make a big impact in that business by combining the commercial and engineering expertise of DPS with Kodiak's operational expertise .
Speaker #8: Got it . That's exciting . I can't wait to hear more . Thanks for taking my questions .
Nate Pendleton: Got it. That's exciting. Can't wait to hear more. Thanks for taking my questions.
Nate Pendleton: Got it. That's exciting. Can't wait to hear more. Thanks for taking my questions.
Speaker #6: Yeah . Thanks , Nate .
Mickey McKee: Yeah, thanks, Nate.
Mickey McKee: Yeah, thanks, Nate.
Speaker #2: Our next question is from Selma , Aquil with Stifel . Your line is now live .
Operator: Our next question is from Selman Akyol with Stifel. Your line is now live.
Operator: Our next question is from Selman Akyol with Stifel. Your line is now live.
Speaker #9: Thank you . Good morning . Two quick ones for me . And just more little follow ups in your previous question , I think you referenced sort of 40% of contracts .
Rachel Smith: Thank you, good morning. Two quick ones for me and just more little follow-ups. In your previous question, I think you referenced sort of 40% of contracts, recontracted and then, 10% in your opening comments for 2026. My question is this: how much are recontracting for 2027?
Selman Akyol: Thank you, good morning. Two quick ones for me and just more little follow-ups. In your previous question, I think you referenced sort of 40% of contracts, recontracted and then, 10% in your opening comments for 2026. My question is this: how much are recontracting for 2027?
Speaker #9: Recontracted . And then 10% in your opening comments for 26 . My question is this how much of Recontracting for 2027 ?
Mickey McKee: Well, that's a good question. I actually haven't run those numbers, Selman. Thanks for joining us. Sorry, good morning. To be honest with you, I don't have that number at my fingertips. It's something that we'll be looking at, but I can tell you that kind of on average, we expect 25% to 30% of our fleet recontracts every year, and we would expect that to be in the 2027 outlook. To be honest with you, though, we actually are having some really constructive conversations with customers right now about pulling forward some of those recontracting efforts. I mentioned earlier, we're in conversations with some customers about some seven and 10-year renewals right now.
Mickey McKee: Well, that's a good question. I actually haven't run those numbers, Selman. Thanks for joining us. Sorry, good morning. To be honest with you, I don't have that number at my fingertips. It's something that we'll be looking at, but I can tell you that kind of on average, we expect 25% to 30% of our fleet recontracts every year, and we would expect that to be in the 2027 outlook. To be honest with you, though, we actually are having some really constructive conversations with customers right now about pulling forward some of those recontracting efforts. I mentioned earlier, we're in conversations with some customers about some seven and 10-year renewals right now.
Speaker #6: That's a good question . I actually haven't run those numbers . Selman thanks for joining us . Sorry . Good morning . To be honest with you , I don't have that number at my fingertips .
Speaker #6: It's something that we'll be looking at , but I can tell you that kind of on average we expect 25 to 30% of our fleet contracts every year .
Speaker #6: And we would expect that to be in the in the 2027 outlook , to be honest with you , though , we actually are having some really constructive conversations with customers right now about pulling forward some of those recontracting efforts .
Speaker #6: I mentioned earlier . We've we're in conversations with some customers , customers about some seven and ten year renewals right now and quite frankly , some of that stuff is is stuff that's not even up for Recontracting in 2026 .
Mickey McKee: And quite frankly, some of that stuff is stuff that's not even up for recontracting in 2026, and it would be pulling that forward from 2027 and 2028 in some cases, too. We're really excited about that. It's kind of a moving target a little bit right now, but for argument's sake, really 25% to 30% of our contracts any given year would come due, and that's what our full expectation for 2027.
Mickey McKee: And quite frankly, some of that stuff is stuff that's not even up for recontracting in 2026, and it would be pulling that forward from 2027 and 2028 in some cases, too. We're really excited about that. It's kind of a moving target a little bit right now, but for argument's sake, really 25% to 30% of our contracts any given year would come due, and that's what our full expectation for 2027.
Speaker #6: And it would be pulling that forward from 27 and 28 , in some cases , to so we're really excited about that . And so it's kind of a moving target a little bit right now .
Speaker #6: But but but for , for for argument's sake really 25 to 30% of our contracts , in any given year would come due .
Speaker #6: And that’s what our full expectation for '27.
Speaker #9: Okay , great . Repricing into a stronger environment then the other one . Just real quick . So you talked about , you know , potentially ordering some engines on spec .
Rachel Smith: Okay, great. I mean, repricing into a stronger environment. The other one, just real quick: you talked about, you know, potentially ordering some engines on spec, and you said you wouldn't have to commit 100% of the capital. Could those engines be swapped over to DPS if you didn't have a need for them?
Selman Akyol: Okay, great. I mean, repricing into a stronger environment. The other one, just real quick: you talked about, you know, potentially ordering some engines on spec, and you said you wouldn't have to commit 100% of the capital. Could those engines be swapped over to DPS if you didn't have a need for them?
Speaker #9: And then you said you wouldn't have to commit 100% of the capital. But could those engines be swapped over to DPS if you didn't have a need for them?
Speaker #1: Yes , sir .
Mickey McKee: Yes, sir. Yeah, we think they can. We definitely can. We'll be looking at how we do that and how we manage that supply chain. We can definitely would be able to kind of buy some of those slots and maybe, hopefully be able to kind of manage whether they support compression or power.
Mickey McKee: Yes, sir. Yeah, we think they can. We definitely can. We'll be looking at how we do that and how we manage that supply chain. We can definitely would be able to kind of buy some of those slots and maybe, hopefully be able to kind of manage whether they support compression or power.
Speaker #6: Yeah . We think they can . So we definitely can . We'll be looking at how we do that and how we manage that supply chain , but we can definitely would would be able to kind of buy some of those slots and maybe hopefully be able to kind of manage whether they support compression or , or , or power
Speaker #9: Great . I appreciate the additional color . Thanks . Cheers .
Rachel Smith: Great. I appreciate the additional color. Thanks. Cheers.
Selman Akyol: Great. I appreciate the additional color. Thanks. Cheers.
Speaker #6: Yep . Thanks , Ellen .
Mickey McKee: Yep. Thanks, Selman.
Mickey McKee: Yep. Thanks, Selman.
Speaker #2: We have reached the end of the question and answer session. I'd now like to turn the call back over to Kodiak CEO Robert McKee.
Operator: We have reached the end of the question and answer session. I'd now like to turn the call back over to Kodiak CEO, Mickey McKee.
Operator: We have reached the end of the question and answer session. I'd now like to turn the call back over to Kodiak CEO, Mickey McKee.
Speaker #6: Thank you . Operator and thank you for everyone participating in today's call . We look forward to speaking with you again after we report our results for the first quarter
Mickey McKee: Thank you, operator. Thank you for everyone participating in today's call. We look forward to speaking with you again after we report our results for Q1.
Mickey McKee: Thank you, operator. Thank you for everyone participating in today's call. We look forward to speaking with you again after we report our results for Q1.
Operator: This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and we thank you for your participation.
Operator: This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and we thank you for your participation.