Full Year 2025 Sibanye Stillwater Ltd Earnings Call

Speaker #3: Good morning , ladies and gentlemen . Welcome . I think it's a real pleasure to have you with us today . As we present our operating and financial results for for 2025 .

Neal Froneman: Hey, good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome. I think it's a real pleasure to have you with us today as we present our operating and financial results for 2025. Thank you very much for joining us today. I think just in terms of the agenda that we've got, I will start off with a few high-level salient points. We'll move into the performance excellence, which will be presented by a number of the team. We'll then move into growth and just touch briefly on the resources, the mineral resources and reserves that we've recently published. Charles will take us through the financial performance, and Tianta will touch on how we're interpreting these very volatile markets we're seeing, and a little bit of the outlook in that regard before I wrap up with the way forward.

Speaker #3: So, thank you very much for joining us today. I think, just in terms of the agenda that we've got, I will start off with a few high-level salient points.

Speaker #3: Then we'll move into the performance excellence, which will be presented by a number of the team. We'll then move into growth and just touch briefly on the resources.

Speaker #3: The mineral resources and reserves that we've recently published. Charles will take us through the financial performance and touch on how we're interpreting these very volatile markets.

Speaker #3: We're seeing and a little bit of the outlook in that regard . Before I wrap up with the with the way forward , I think there are several forward looking statements in in the document .

Neal Froneman: I think there are several forward-looking statements in the document, so I would urge you please to just take note of the safe harbor statement. Thank you. I think when we reflect on 1 December 2025, I think certainly during the latter half of the year, it was at a time of significant change at Sibanye. We, of course, had the leadership transition, and with that, we also undertook a refresh of our strategy. This was something that we presented to the market at the end of January. But for anybody who was not able to make that, if I could try and summarize our strategic refresh in one word, it would be simplification. Specifically, you know, what we're really focusing on in the short term is around maximizing and driving our operating margins.

Speaker #3: So I would urge , urge you please , to just take note of the safe harbor statement . Thank you I think when we when we reflect on December 1st , 2025 , I think certainly during the the latter half of the year , it was a time of significant change at Savannah .

Speaker #3: We of course , had the leadership transition . And with that , we also undertook a refresh of our of our strategy . This was something that we presented to the market at the end of January .

Speaker #3: But for anybody who was not able to make that, if I could try and summarize our strategic refresh in one word, it would be simplification.

Speaker #3: Specifically, you know, what we’re really focusing on in the short term is around maximizing and driving our operating margins. We’re doing that through a keen focus on operational excellence and simplifying the operating model that we have.

Neal Froneman: We're doing that through a keen focus on operational excellence and simplifying the operating model that we have. And then further simplification through our portfolio, such that we, we're focusing on the highest return assets, of course, cash generative assets, and ensuring appropriate management focus in that regard. This is all coupled with a very disciplined capital allocation framework, which we shared as being roughly a third towards shareholder returns, a third towards reducing our gross debt, and a third towards growth. And again, Charles will unpack that in a little bit more detail. In terms of growth, we certainly see the best value at the moment for us in terms of returns as being internal, in terms of the resource value that we have.

Speaker #3: And then further simplification through our portfolio , such that we we focusing on the highest return assets . Of course , cash generative assets and ensuring appropriate management focus in that regard .

Speaker #3: This is all coupled with a very disciplined capital allocation framework, which we shared as being roughly a third towards shareholder returns, a third towards reducing our gross debt, and a third towards growth.

Speaker #3: And again , Charles will unpack that in a little bit more detail . And in terms of growth , we certainly see the best value at the moment for us in terms of returns as being internal , in terms of the resource value that we have .

Speaker #3: We have a significant resource base, particularly in South Africa, and our PM operations and organic growth will be our immediate focus. But we did also share a value creation framework that we have put together that will help us assess any external growth opportunities.

Neal Froneman: We have a significant resource base, particularly in South Africa, at our PGM operations. And organic growth will be our immediate focus. But we did also share a value creation framework that we have put together, that will help us assess any external growth opportunities moving forward. In addition to the strategic refresh, I think there were some quite key decisions that we needed to make towards the end of last year, especially amongst several of our operations. One of the big ones was the startup of the Keliber Lithium project in Finland. That is a greenfields project that we have built, and given the volatility in the lithium market, you know, we had to make a decision how best to proceed with that project.

Speaker #3: Moving forward . In addition to the strategic refresh , I think there were some some quite key decisions that we needed to make towards the end of last year , especially amongst several of our operations .

Speaker #3: One of the big ones was the start up of the lithium project in Finland . That is a greenfields project that we have built , and given the volatility in the in the lithium market , you know , we had to make a decision how best to proceed with that project .

Speaker #3: And I think very pleasingly , towards the end of last year , together with our partners , the Finnish Minerals Group came to a way forward , which really considers a staged ramp up of the project , and we'll share a bit more of those details with you in the annotation .

Neal Froneman: I think very pleasingly, towards the end of last year, together with our partners, the Finnish Minerals Group, came to a way forward which really considers a staged ramp-up of the Keliber project. We'll share a bit more of those details with you in the presentation. It really is an approach that mitigates some of the risk of the market, while allowing us a lot of strategic optionality around the project. We'll unpack that for you in the coming slides. The second big decision we had to make was around Kloof. We did share with the market that early on in the year, due to increased risk of seismicity and what we deemed to be an unacceptable safety risk, we ceased mining at quite a few of the deeper level areas at Kloof.

Speaker #3: But it really is an approach that mitigates some of the risk of the market, while allowing us a lot of strategic optionality around the project.

Speaker #3: And we'll unpack that for you in the coming slides . My second big decision we had to make was around Cliff . We did share with the market that early on in the year due to increased risk of seismicity and what we deem to be an unacceptable safety risk , we ceased mining at quite a few of the deeper level areas at Cliff , and this had a material impact not only on the output from the cliff operations , but also the future of that operation .

Neal Froneman: This had a material impact, not only on the output from the Kloof operations, but also the future of that operation. Towards the end of last year, we did make a decision that Kloof would continue to operate on a year-by-year basis, assessing the profitability each year as we proceed. Very dependent on sustained higher gold prices. There were several priority projects that we have been evaluating during the year, and we'll be making financial investment decisions on during the course of this year. There was also some overhangs from previous or legacy issues. We had to address the Appian court case. We came to a settlement there in November, ultimately, a settlement payment of $215 million.

Speaker #3: Towards the end of last year , we we did make a decision that Cliff would continue to operate on a year by year basis , assessing the profitability each year as we proceed .

Speaker #3: So very dependent on on sustained higher gold prices . And then there were several priority projects that we that we we have been evaluating during the year .

Speaker #3: And we're making will be making financial investment decisions on during the course of of this year . There are also some overhangs from from previous or legacy issues .

Speaker #3: We had to address the Appian court case. We came to a settlement there in November. Ultimately, a settlement payment of $215 million.

Speaker #3: And then we also had the South African gold wage negotiations that had been continuing from about the middle of the year. I think, credit to the team, we successfully settled that also towards the end of the year.

Neal Froneman: And then we also had the South African gold wage negotiations that had been continuing from about the middle of the year. And I think credit to the team, we successfully settled that also towards the end of the year. And again, credit to all stakeholders, I think a very good outcome considering the environment we're currently operating in. But I share this because I guess it was a rather busy, a transformational, and actually quite a noisy second half of the year, with lots of decisions being made in terms of how we will continue going forward. And that has also reflected in our finances, which are complex, and again, I dare say, a lot of noise.

Speaker #3: And again, credit to all stakeholders. I think these are very good outcomes, considering the environment we are currently operating in. But I share this because I guess it was a rather busy, transformational, and actually quite a noisy second half of the year, with lots of decisions being made in terms of how we will continue going forward.

Speaker #3: And that has also reflected in our in our finances , which are which are complex . And again , I dare say a lot of noise , but .

Neal Froneman: But, hopefully, you know, certainly the way I feel, and hopefully you can see that what this has done is simplified our, our operations going forward. It's really simplified where our focus needs to be. And I think it's set up a solid operational base, which we have launched into 2026. And then I look forward to that simplification, also starting to feature in the financial numbers, as we ultimately simplify the total portfolio. I think looking at our operational output, safety, and I'll unpack safety in a bit more detail in the coming slide, but very pleased with the continuous, continuous improvements that we've seen, in many of our indicators, both lagging and leading indicators.

Speaker #3: Hopefully, you know, certainly the way I feel, and hopefully you can see that what this has done is simplified our operations going forward.

Speaker #3: It's really simplified where our focus needs to be. And I think it's set up a solid operational base, which we have launched into 2026.

Speaker #3: And I look forward to that simplification. Also, starting to feature in the financial numbers as we ultimately simplify the total portfolio, I think looking at our operational output safety and our unpack safety in a bit more detail in a coming slide.

Speaker #3: But but very pleased with the continuing continuous improvements that we've seen in many of our indicators , both lagging and leading indicators . We have seen some of our best numbers ever , which is which is pleasing in terms of the progress that we've made over the years .

Neal Froneman: We have seen some of our best numbers ever, which is pleasing in terms of the progress that we've made over the years. But our focus on eliminating fatals remains our absolute priority as a company. I think I have to give full credit to many of our operational teams. As I say, this was a busy period. It was a very volatile period in the markets, and yet our operational teams delivered solidly across most of our business. All of our operations came in largely within guidance, recognizing we did have to revise guidance at the gold operations because of the Kloof decision I mentioned earlier. But to have come in within guidance or better than guidance across the board was very pleasing and full credit to our teams in that regard.

Speaker #3: But our focus on eliminating fatals remains our absolute priority as a company. I think I have to give full credit to many of our operational teams.

Speaker #3: As I say , this was a busy period . It was a very volatile period in the markets , and yet our operational teams delivered solidly across across most of our business .

Speaker #3: All of our operations came in largely within guidance, recognizing we did have to revise guidance at the gold operations because of the cliff decision I mentioned earlier.

Speaker #3: But to have come in within guidance or better than guidance across the board was very pleasing, and full credit to our teams in that regard.

Speaker #3: We also made some great strides on our on our sustainability strategy across many aspects , including water , including the social investment in South Africa .

Neal Froneman: We also made some great strides on our sustainability strategy, across many aspects, including water, including the social investments in South Africa. One that really is a bit of a standout is our positioning with regards to our renewable energy, where I think we really are now positioned as a leader in renewable energy in South African mining. Certainly, that is not only going to have a material impact on our carbon footprint going forward and our ability to provide responsible metals, but also a significant commercial benefit. Just during the year to date, on a small portion of the projects we've commissioned, we've already achieved close on ZAR 100 million worth of savings, and avoided over 300,000 tons of carbon dioxide.

Speaker #3: But but one that really is a bit of a standout is our positioning with regards to our renewable energy , where I think we we really are now positioned as a leader in renewable energy in South African mining and certainly that is not only going to have a material impact on our carbon footprint going going forward and our ability to to provide responsible metals , but also significant commercial benefit just during the year to date on our small portion of the projects we've commissioned , we've already achieved close on 100 million rand worth of savings and avoided over 300,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide .

Speaker #3: And we see that going up to close on a billion rand worth of savings over the coming years . Like I mentioned , I think with with much of the decisions and complexity we had in the business over the second half of the year , that does reflect in our numbers .

Neal Froneman: And we see that going up to close on ZAR 1 billion worth of savings over the coming years. Like I mentioned, I think with much of the decisions and complexity we had in the business over the second half of the year, that does reflect in our numbers. But looking through those numbers, I guess, sort of really through to the core financials, I think what we really see is stability, a real turnaround, and I think a solid base of which to build into 2026. We achieved the highest EBITDA that we have in three years, at just under ZAR 38 billion or just over $2 billion.

Speaker #3: But looking through those numbers , I guess sort of really through to the core , core financials , I think what we really see stability , a real turnaround , and I think a solid base of which to build into , into 2026 , we achieved the highest EBITDA that we have in three years at just under 38 billion , or just over $2 billion .

Neal Froneman: To see a headline earnings per share up by just under 300%, I think is very pleasing, particularly given that most of that just came during the second half of the year. Our balance sheet remains strong. Our total net debt to adjusted EBITDA has declined to below 0.6x, so very comfortably within covenant limits. As we shared during our strategy, a renewed focus on gross debt to ensure stability through a cycle is where our focus will be going forward. Overall, with the good operational output, with the strong financial stability, and underpinned, I think as a company and a board, the board is very comfortable to declare a dividend of ZAR 1.31 per share.

Speaker #3: And to see a headline earnings per share up by just under 300%, I think is very pleasing, particularly given that most of that just came during the second half of the year.

Speaker #3: Our balance sheet is strong , our total net debt to adjusted EBITDA has declined to below 0.6 times . So very comfortably within within covenant limits .

Speaker #3: But as we shared during our strategy, a renewed focus on gross debt to ensure stability through a cycle is where our focus will be going forward.

Speaker #3: But overall , with a good operational output , with the strong financial stability and underpin , I think as a company and a board , the board is very comfortable to declare a dividend of 131 cents per share .

Speaker #3: That equates to roughly a 2% dividend yield. And again, I think reflecting largely just the earnings over the second half of the year.

Neal Froneman: That equates to roughly a 2% dividend yield. I think reflecting largely just the earnings over the second half of the year. That dividend declaration is at the top end of our dividend policy. Very glad to be back into dividend paying territory. I think as we look at performance excellence, we did share at the end of January, during our strategic update, that our strategy is based on four pillars. Simplification, I have mentioned already, simplification of how we operate, driving accountability, simplification of our portfolio, getting our focus and capital allocation in the right place. The second pillar was performance excellence.

Speaker #3: And that dividend declaration is at the top end of our of our dividend policy . So , so very glad . To be back into dividend paying territory I think as we as we look at performance excellence , we did share at the end of January during our strategic update that our strategy is based on four pillars simplification .

Speaker #3: I've mentioned already simplification of our of how we operate , driving accountability , simplification of our portfolio , getting our focus on capital allocation in the right place , and the second pillar was , was performance excellence .

Speaker #3: Performance excellence is really a covers a holistic improvement . And within there we have safe production . We have the operational excellence , which I think will be well understood by many resource optimization .

Neal Froneman: Performance excellence is really covers a holistic improvement, and within there, we have safe production, we have the operational excellence, which I think will be well understood by many. Resource optimization, how best we can extract our resources, maximizing long-term economic value, and of course, embedding sustainability in the way we operate. And for us, sustainability is really about people, the planet, and prosperity for both. I will specifically touch today on safe production, and then hand over to the two COOs, Richard and Charles, to look at operational excellence, and Melanie on sustainability. So I think touching on safe production, as I mentioned earlier, it's been extremely pleasing to see the trend that we have seen since 2021 in particular.

Speaker #3: How best we can extract our resources , maximizing long term economic value . And of course , embedding sustainability in the way we operate .

Speaker #3: And for us, sustainability is really about people, the planet, and prosperity for both our world. Specifically, I want to touch today on safe production.

Speaker #3: And then hand over to the two CEOs , Richard and Charles , to look at operational excellence . And Melanie on sustainability . So I think touching on on safe production , as I mentioned earlier , it's been extremely pleasing to see the trend that we have seen since , since 2021 in particular .

Speaker #3: And I raise 2021 because that's the time when we started our fatality elimination strategy. Since then, we've seen over a 40% reduction in serious injuries.

Neal Froneman: I raise 2021, because that's the time when we started our fatal elimination strategy. Since then, we've seen over a 40% reduction in serious injuries, and the reason we look at serious injuries is that is very often associated with high energy incidents. High energy incidents that could result in either fatal incidents, or certainly life-changing incidents. I think we've also seen a very similar, pleasing decline in terms of the high potential incidents that we measure. Some of those are associated with injuries, some not. It certainly gives us a good data point to understand whether or not we are decreasing risk within our operations. Whether we look at our own history, whether we benchmark ourselves against peers who have similar, underground, narrow, tabular, labor-intensive operations.

Speaker #3: And the reason we look at serious injuries is that it is very often associated with high energy incidents. So, high energy incidents that could result in either fatal incidents or certainly life-changing incidents.

Speaker #3: I think we've also seen a very similar , pleasing decline in terms of the high potential incidents that we measure . Some of those are associated with injuries , some not .

Speaker #3: But it certainly gives us a good data point to understand whether or not we are decreasing risk within our operations and whether we look at our own history , whether we benchmark ourselves against peers who have similar underground , narrow tabular , labor intensive operations .

Speaker #3: You know , generally across the board , I think we've seen a significant reduction in risk in our operations . And that is a trend we would we'd like to see continue .

Neal Froneman: You know, generally across the board, I think we've seen a significant reduction in risk in our operations, and that is a trend we would- we'd like to see continue. We continue to benchmark ourselves against ICMM peers, many of whom, of course, operate in very different environments. I think what's always tough talking about these safety trends is as pleasing as it is to look in the rearview mirror and understand that we're doing the right things to reduce risk. As a management team, we also recognize that that is, unfortunately, very cold comfort to family and friends of colleagues who we have lost on our operations. Tragically, during 2025, we did experience 6 fatal incidents across our operations.

Speaker #3: And we continue to benchmark ourselves against ICM peers , many of whom , of course , operate in very different environments . I think what's always tough , talking about these safety trends is , is as pleasing as it is to look in the rearview mirror and understand that we're doing the right things to reduce risk as a management team , we also recognize that that is unfortunately very cold comfort to family and friends of colleagues who we have lost on our operations and tragically , during 2025 , we did experience six fatal incidents across our operations and in this regard , I would really like to extend our heartfelt condolences on behalf of the management team and the board to the family and the friends of Humberto Xavier from Jozanna Nomsa Matola , Brian Henson , Assisi Ramaglia and Klaus and Cassandra Eliminating fatal incidents is absolutely our number one priority as a board , as a management team and as a company , our focus moving forward into 2026 remains on how we can more effectively embed our fatal elimination strategy .

Neal Froneman: In this regard, I would really like to extend our heartfelt condolences on behalf of the management team and the board to the family and the friends of Humberto Xavier, Bomkazi Jozana, Nomsa Matolo, Bryan Hanson, Asizwe Ramadia, and Klaas Nkosi. Eliminating fatal incidents is absolutely our number one priority as a board, as a management team, and as a company. Our focus moving forward into 2026 remains on how we can more effectively embed our fatal elimination strategy. The strategy fundamentally hangs on three pillars of critical controls, what we call critical management routines, or effectively management practices, and then life-saving behaviors. Those are the three key pillars that will mitigate risk within our operations. The focus for 2026 is how we can enhance compliance in this regard, but most importantly, enhancing it through a transformation of culture, which will also drive behavior.

Speaker #3: The strategy fundamentally hangs off three pillars of critical controls , what we call critical management routines for effectively , management practices . And then life saving behaviors .

Speaker #3: Those are the three key pillars that will mitigate risk within our operations. The focus for 2026 is how we can enhance compliance in this regard.

Speaker #3: But most importantly , enhancing it through a transformation of culture , which will also drive behavior . I think what we have seen historically within the mining industry is that compliance is driven through force , through instruction , and we recognize the opportunity to change that culture and to drive compliance through a culture of accountability and a culture of care .

Neal Froneman: I think what we have seen historically within the mining industry is that compliance is driven through force, through instruction, and we recognize the opportunity to change that culture and to drive compliance through a culture of accountability and a culture of care. Through that, we truly believe we will eliminate fatal incidents from our operations. Thank you very much. With that, I will hand over to Richard Cox to take us through the South African operations. Over to you, Richard. Thank you.

Speaker #3: And through that , we truly believe we will eliminate fatal incidents from our operations . Thank you very much . And with that , I will hand over to Richard Cox to take us through the South African operations .

Speaker #3: Over to you, Richard. Thank you.

Speaker #4: Thanks , Rich . Hello , everyone . As chief Operating Officer of our South African operations , my focus is on delivering performance excellence through safe production , operational efficiency and holistic improvement .

Richard Cox: Thanks, Rich. Hello, everyone. The Chief Operating Officer of our South African operations, my focus is on delivering performance excellence through safe production, operational efficiency, and holistic improvement. Our strategy ensures we consistently improve delivery across our portfolio. Let's take a look into our 2025 results for the South African business. Turning to our SA PGM operations, we've maintained consistent delivery, meeting or exceeding guidance each year since 2017. More specifically, for 2025, total 4E PGM production reached 1.8 million ounces, including attributable production from Amoza at 117,000 ounces, and third-party purchase of concentrate at 73,000 ounces. All aggregated, aligning with our 1.75 to 1.85 million ounce guidance, and stable year on year.

Speaker #4: Our strategy ensures we consistently improve delivery across our portfolio. So let's take a look into our 2025 results for the South African business. Turning to our SAP, GM operations, we've maintained consistent delivery, meeting or exceeding guidance each year since 2017.

Speaker #4: More specifically, for 2025, total EPM production reached 1.8 million ounces, including attributable production from Amosa at 117,000 oz, and third-party purchase of concentrate at 73,000 oz. All aggregated, this aligns with our 1.75 to 1.8 million ounce guidance and has remained stable year on year since the acquisition in 2019. Production has remained steady between 1.73 and 1.8 million ounces annually, reflecting our operational resilience and ongoing progress toward the second quartile of the industry.

Richard Cox: Since the Lonmin acquisition in 2019, production has remained steady between 1.73 and 1.83 million ounces annually, reflecting our operational resilience and ongoing progress toward the second quartile of the industry cost curve. Breaking it down, underground production increased 2% to over 1.6 million ounces, supported by improvements at Rustenburg's mechanized Bathopele shaft, and more stable output compared to 2024's disruptions at Siphumelele and Kroondal operations. At Marikana, output was affected by safety-related stoppages at the high-performing Saffy Shaft, but this was partially offset by K4's ramp-up, where production rose 41% to almost 100,000 ounces, contributing to Marikana's improved cost position. Surface production was lower by 29% at 108,000 ounces, influenced by high Q1 rainfall and the commencement to transition feed resources such as Rustenburg's Waterfall West TSF.

Speaker #4: Cost curve . Breaking it down underground production increased 2% to over 1.6 million ounces , supported by improvements at Rustenburg Mechanized , but propeller , shaft and more stable output compared to 2024 .

Speaker #4: Disruptions at and Kroondal operations at Marikana output was affected by safety related stoppages at the high performing Sati shaft , but this was partially offset by Carrefour's ramp up with production rose 41% to almost 100,000oz , contributing to Marikana .

Speaker #4: Improved cost position . Surface production was lower by 29% at 108,000oz . Influenced by high first quarter rainfall and the commencement to transition feed resources such as Rustenburg , Waterfall West , DSF , Americanas , Et1 to Et2 , tailings facilities .

Richard Cox: Amanzimtoti ETD1 to ETD2 tailings facilities. We are evaluating long-term surface opportunities at Rustenburg to support the sustainability of the surface business. Purchases of concentrate volumes were reduced by 24%, in line with contractual terms. We remain focused on cost discipline. Operating costs increased by just 7.3% in absolute terms, while all-in sustaining costs rose 10% to just over 24,000 ZAR per 4E ounce, and that was within our 23.5 to 24.5 thousand ZAR per ounce guidance, bolstered by by-product credits of ZAR 11.1 billion.

Speaker #4: We are evaluating long-term surface opportunities at Rustenburg to support the sustainability of the surface business. Purchase of concentrate volumes were reduced by 24%, in line with contractual terms.

Speaker #4: We remain focused on cost , discipline , operating costs , increased by just 7.3% in absolute terms , all in sustaining costs rose 10% to just over 24,000 rand per ounce , and that was within our 23.5 to 24.5 thousand rand , announced guidance bolstered by byproduct credits of 11.1 billion .

Speaker #4: Now, these credits were enhanced by stronger ruthenium and iridium contributions, helping offset a 261% increase in royalties to $765 million from higher prices and a 12% rise in sustaining capital to $2.9 billion for key mining equipment and precious metal refinery infrastructure.

Richard Cox: Now, these credits were enhanced by stronger ruthenium and iridium contributions, helping offset a 261% increase in royalties to ZAR 765 million from higher prices, and a 12% rise in sustaining capital to ZAR 2.9 billion for key mining equipment and precious metal refinery infrastructure. Project capital was lower by 16% at ZAR 675 million, which was below guidance due to completed Rustenburg initiatives and deferred Marikana expenditures. Total CapEx came in at ZAR 5.9 billion, under our ZAR 6.5 billion estimate. So this foundation we are creating enables us to capitalize on stronger PGM prices. The 2025 average for 6E basket price increased 28% to over ZAR 31,000 per ounce, driving adjusted EBITDA up 125% to ZAR 16.7 billion.

Speaker #4: Project capital was lower by 16% at R675 million, which was below guidance due to completed Rustenburg initiatives and deferred Marikana expenditures. Total CapEx came in at R5.9 billion.

Speaker #4: Under our 6.5 billion estimate. So this foundation we are creating enables us to capitalize on stronger PGM prices. The 2025 average for price increased 28% to over 31,000 rand per ounce, driving adjusted EBITDA up 125% to 16.7 billion early 2026.

Richard Cox: Early 2026 prices have risen 43% to over $44,000 per ounce, as shown in the chart, following an even higher and brief January adjustment. With supported fundamentals, we anticipate potential for additional earnings and cash flow improvements in 2026. We are continuing investing through the cycle in low risk, low capital intensity projects with quick paybacks, all supporting stable, high-performing operations with optionality to extend our portfolio. Overall, our SAPGM operations are very well-positioned to benefit long term and also from the current market upside. This slide illustrates our advancement on the PGM cost curve and based upon end December 2025 data, and highlights our positioning relative to peers. Starting on the right, Marikana's total cost, including CapEx, has been influenced by K4's project buildup phase, but as K4 approaches steady state, we're seeing a shift towards lower costs.

Speaker #4: Prices have risen 43% to over $44,000 per ounce, as shown in the chart, following an even higher and brief January adjustment with supported fundamentals.

Speaker #4: We anticipate potential for additional earnings and cash flow improvements in 2026 . We are continue investing through the cycle in low risk , low capital intensity projects with quick paybacks .

Speaker #4: All supporting stable , high performing operations with optionality to extend our portfolio . Overall , our SAP GM operations are very well positioned to benefit long term and also from the current market upside This slide illustrates our advancement on the PM cost curve , and based upon end December 2025 , data and highlights , our positioning relative to peers starting on the right Marianna's total cost , including CapEx , has been influenced by K-force project build up phase .

Speaker #4: But as K4 approaches steady state, we're seeing a shift towards lower costs. This combined Rustenburg and Crundall position has moved slightly higher due to the transition to toll treatment, which does introduce processing costs.

Richard Cox: This combined Rustenburg and Kroondal position has moved slightly higher due to the Kroondal transition to toll treatment, which does introduce processing costs, however, enhances profitability through improved revenue and margins. While we are at or below the 50th percentile now, and our low capital intensity greenfields projects are poised to further strengthen competitiveness against peers, spot 4E and 6E, which includes base metal basket prices, are positioned well above our costs, underscoring our leverage in the prevailing market. Our progression from the fourth to the second quarter reflects the value of our strategic investments in building long-term sustainable advantage in this business. Now, to our gold operations. These mature assets are highly geared to gold prices and continue to generate strong cash flows in the current supportive price environment. Total production, including DRDGOLD, was lower by 10% at 19.7 tons.

Speaker #4: However, it enhances profitability through improved revenue and margins. While we are at or below the 50th percentile now, our low capital intensity brownfields projects are poised to further strengthen competitiveness against peers.

Speaker #4: Spot for E and 60, which includes base metal basket prices, are positioned well above our costs, underscoring our leverage in the prevailing market.

Speaker #4: And so our progression from the fourth to the second quartile reflects the value of our strategic investments in building long-term, sustainable advantage.

Speaker #4: In this business. Now, to our gold operations—these mature assets are highly geared to gold prices and continue to generate strong cash flows in the current supported price environment.

Speaker #4: Total production , including DRD gold , was lower by 10% at 19.7 tonnes . Underground production reduced by 8% , primarily due to operational challenges at our operations , including seismicity and infrastructure constraints .

Richard Cox: Underground production reduced by 8%, primarily due to operational challenges at our Kloof operations, including seismicity and infrastructure constraints, while surface production was down 16%, influenced by lower yields as we transitioned from higher grade to lower grade tailings and lower grade third-party sources. A 39% increase in the gold price received helped mitigate this impact, though all-in sustaining costs increased 15% to ZAR 1.4 million per kilogram, with 14% lower gold sold. At our Kloof operations, persistent challenges, including a shaft incident at Kloof 7 Shaft in May of 2025, infrastructure age showing in ventilation pass and ore pass systems, logistics constraints, and seismic risk in high-grade isolated blocks of ground, or IBGs, resulted in production lower by 31% year-on-year at 3,374 kilograms.

Speaker #4: While surface production was down 16% . Influenced by lower yields . As we transitioned from higher grade to lower grade tailings and lower grade third party sources , a 39% increase in the gold price received helped mitigate this impact , though all in sustaining costs increased 15% to 1.4 million per kilogram , with 14% lower gold sold At our curve operations , persistent challenges including a shaft incident at our Magnano seven shaft in May of 25 infrastructure age showing in ventilation costs and all pass systems suggests constraints and seismic risk in high grade isolated blocks of ground or rbgs resulted in production lower by 31% year on year at 3374kg .

Speaker #4: This prompted a rebasing of the plan and a life of mine adjustment to one year . Safety remains our number one priority . We did relocate a number of teams from higher risk rbgs to an operations and subsequently post the comprehensive review process , removed those areas of operations from the long term plan to align with our risk tolerance That said , the sustained rise in the rand gold price over the period boosted adjusted EBITDA 115% to 12.5 billion , representing 33% of EBITDA and surpassing 2020s record .

Richard Cox: This prompted a rebasing of the plan and a life of mine adjustment to 1 year. Safety remains our number one priority. We did relocate a number of Kloof teams from higher-risk IBGs to Driefontein operations, and subsequently, post a comprehensive review process, removed those areas of Kloof operations from the long-term plan to align with our risk tolerance. That said, the sustained rise in the rand gold price over the period boosted adjusted EBITDA 115% to ZAR 12.5 billion, representing 33% of group EBITDA, and surpassing 2020's record. Excluding DRDGOLD, EBITDA increased 111% to ZAR 6.1 billion on average price of ZAR 1.8 million a kilogram.

Speaker #4: Excluding DRD Gold, EBITDA increased 111% to R6.1 billion on an average price of R1.8 million per kilogram for the whole gold business.

Richard Cox: For the whole gold business, we are pleased to have concluded a three-year wage agreement with labor, and that provides a degree of cost certainty moving forward. There is a lot of work underway supporting our strategic transitioning of the SA gold business, and this effort is to ensure long-term sustainability. Our investment in DRDGOLD is a prime example, providing long-life, high-margin surface gold exposure that is cash generative. We are also focusing on a higher margin, shallow gold mining business, with Burnstone's feasibility study underway and final investment decision being targeted for the first half of 2026. As you see in the image here, the Burnstone project exemplifies this strategic shift. We are also focusing on high-margin, shallow gold mining, where we have added over 1 million ounces in reserves at Cook Surface, Burnstone, attributable DRDGOLD, and Beatrix operations.

Speaker #4: We are pleased to have concluded a three-year wage agreement with labor, and that provides a degree of cost certainty. Moving forward.

Speaker #4: There is a lot of work underway supporting our strategic transitioning of the gold business, and this effort is to ensure long-term sustainability.

Speaker #4: Our investment in DRD gold is a prime example , providing long life , high margin surface gold exposure at its cash generative . We are also focusing on our higher margin , shallow gold mining business with Bernstein's feasibility study underway and final investment decision being targeted for the first half of 2026 .

Speaker #4: As you see in the image here , the Bernstein Project exemplifies this strategic shift . We are also focusing on higher margin shallow gold mining , where we have added over 1,000,000oz in reserves at cook surface , Bernstein attributable DRD and Beatrix operations Turning to the charts , the gearing and all in sustaining cost margin chart illustrates how price rising prices are opening up , expanding margins , the average gold price received climbing steadily against controlled all in sustaining costs .

Richard Cox: Turning to the charts, the gearing and all-in sustaining cost margin chart illustrates how price-rising prices are opening up, expanding margins, with the average gold price received climbing steadily against controlled all-in sustaining cost. The adjusted free cash flow bar chart highlights the magnitude and rapid cash flow turnaround, moving from negative in 2024 to positive and significant in 2025. Looking forward, our core operations will continue to drive performance excellence, and we're excited about the prospects in our current portfolio. For 2026, the outlook is positive. Spot prices are up 9% year to date to over ZAR 2.5 million per kilogram, and 20% above second half 2025 levels, all boding well for another successful year with potential earnings and cash flow growth. I'll now hand over to Charles.

Speaker #4: The adjusted free cash flow bar chart highlights the magnitude and rapid cash flow turnaround, moving from negative in 2024 to positive and significant in 2025.

Speaker #4: Looking forward, our core operations will continue to drive performance excellence, and we're excited about the prospects in our current portfolio for 2026.

Speaker #4: The outlook is positive. Spot prices are up 9% year to date to over R2.5 million per kilogram, and 20% above second half 2025 levels, all boding well for another successful year with potential earnings and cash flow growth. I'll now hand over to Charles.

Speaker #3: Thank you Richard .

Charles Carter: Thank you, Richard. The US PGM operations have had a solid year, with production of 284,002 ounces and an all-in sustaining cost of $1,203 an ounce, beating our guidance, combined with a strongly improving safety performance into year-end. The significant downsizing in late 2024, while turning around the cash bleed at the time in the context of depressed prices, also sowed the seeds of improved mining productivities and cost efficiencies that we have built on through the year under review. Certainly, with improved PGM prices later in the year, we returned to profitability, and when you overlay Section 45X benefits, you have a competent outcome.

Speaker #5: The US PGM operations have had a solid year with production of 284,000 oz and an all-in sustaining cost of $1,203 an ounce, beating our guidance, combined with a strongly improving safety performance into year end.

Speaker #5: The significant downsizing in late 2024, while turning around the cash bleed at the time in the context of depressed prices, also sowed the seeds of improved mining productivity and cost efficiencies that we have built on through the year under review.

Speaker #5: Certainly , with improved prices late later in the year , we returned to profitability and when you overlay section 45 benefits , you have a competent outcome during this period of getting our operating performance right , albeit at lower volumes .

Charles Carter: During this period of getting our operating performance right, albeit at lower volumes, the team led by Kevin Robertson has also done a significant amount of work on setting up the Montana operations for long-term success. You have seen in the earlier global cost curve that we are now sitting in the middle of the pack and have been for two consecutive quarters. Our drive towards $1,000 an ounce is aimed at being a lowest quartile PGM producer on a sustainable basis through price cycles. In the Montana operations, we have a legacy of semi-mechanized mining, with narrow headings and small stopes, using a range of small equipment such as 2-yard LHDs and Cmac bolting, which ultimately constrains you with lower tons per cycle and a higher cost per ounce.

Speaker #5: The team, led by Kevin Robertson, has also done a significant amount of work on setting up the Montana operations for long-term success.

Speaker #5: You have seen in the earlier global cost curve that we are now sitting in the middle of the pack and have been for two consecutive quarters, but our drive towards $1,000 an ounce is aimed at being in the lowest quartile.

Speaker #5: PGM producer on a sustainable basis through price cycles in the Montana operations . We have a legacy of semi mechanized mining with narrow headings and small stopes using a range of small equipment such as two yard leads and CMAC bolting , which ultimately constrains you with lower tonnes per cycle and a higher cost per ounce .

Speaker #5: Notwithstanding the fact that our miners are incredibly good at what they do and bring significant skills and experience to the process through last year , we trialled mechanised bolting with success and we are not right now rolling out a significant transformation programme , which will see , amongst many changes , the stepwise introduction of mechanised equipment , a progressive increase in heading size and advance with associated workforce and supervisory upskilling , and a shift from legacy captive staffing to task mining .

Charles Carter: Notwithstanding the fact that our miners are incredibly good at what they do and bring significant skills and experience to the process. Through last year, we trialed mechanized bolting with success, and we are now, right now, rolling out a significant transformation program, which will see, among many changes, a stepwise introduction of mechanized equipment, a progressive increase in heading size and advance with associated workforce and supervisory upskilling, and a shift from legacy captive stoping to task mining. The benefits of these changes really start bearing fruit in 2027, because we have a phased introduction of new equipment and changes to work practices running in parallel with our established approach.

Speaker #5: The benefits of these changes really start bearing fruit in 2027 , because we have a phased introduction of new equipment and changes to work practices running in parallel with our established approach , where this takes us in the next 18 months is a fully mechanised and scaled operation with higher productivity and lower costs , improved safety and wellness benefits , and a business that we believe will be resilient through price cycles .

Charles Carter: Where this takes us in the next 18 months is a fully mechanized and scaled operation, with higher productivities and lower costs, improved safety and wellness benefits, and a business that we believe will be resilient through price cycles. We are starting these change interventions at Stillwater East and then moving to East Boulder. And once we know that we can deliver around $1,000 an ounce, we will consider bringing back Stillwater West, although this will require infrastructure upgrades and a range of capital spend, which means that we have that decision point further down the road, and it will need to be based on an extensive feasibility study. If I turn to the US-based recycling business, 2025 has also been a busy year for us. We bedded down and integrated the Reldan acquisition, and late year added the Metallix acquisition.

Speaker #5: We are starting these change interventions at Stillwater East and then moving to East Boulder. And once we know that we can deliver around $1,000 an ounce, we will consider bringing back Stillwater West.

Speaker #5: Although this will require infrastructure upgrades and a range of capital spend, which means that we have that decision point further down the road.

Speaker #5: And it will need to be based on an extensive feasibility study. If I turn to the US-based recycling business, 2025 has also been a busy year for us.

Speaker #5: We bedded down and integrated the Weldon acquisition, and last year added the Metallics acquisition together with our Columbus Autocat recycling business. We believe that we have a compelling PGM and precious metals recycling platform that has low capital intensity and which can provide stable margins through price cycles.

Charles Carter: Together with our Columbus Autocat recycling business, we believe that we have a compelling PGM and precious metals recycling platform that has low capital intensity and which can provide stable margins through price cycles. The team, led by Grant Stuart, is moving very quickly to integrate the management teams and optimize which feeds go to which site, while leveraging a single sourcing and sales platform that now has very wide reach, both in the Americas but also into Asia and elsewhere. As investors and analysts will appreciate, there is significant change underway in global metals recycling, where we are seeing consolidation, vertical integration, and indeed some companies in various parts of the value chain going to the wall. Within the significant shifts underway, I think we are well positioned.

Speaker #5: The team , led by Grant Stuart , is moving very quickly to integrate the management teams and optimize , which feeds go to which site while leveraging a single sourcing and sales platform that now has very wide reach , both in the Americas but also into Asia and elsewhere .

Speaker #5: As investors and analysts will appreciate, there is significant change underway in global metals recycling, where we are seeing consolidation, vertical integration, and indeed some companies in various parts of the value chain go into the wall within the significant shifts underway.

Speaker #5: I think we are well positioned. We know what our value proposition is, the niches that we play in, and which differentiates us against some of our very large competitors.

Charles Carter: We know what our value proposition is, the niches that we play in, and which differentiates us against some of our very large competitors. And we now have the ability to organically grow an integrated recycling platform without needing to necessarily chase new acquisitions. Our Century Zinc retreatment business in Australia has also had a very good year, from a stellar safety performance through to increased production of 101 kilotons of payable metal and a 17% decrease in all-in sustaining costs to $1,920 a ton, which exceeded guidance. This team is very ably led by Barry Harris, and I want to thank Robert van Niekerk, who was the executive lead through the last couple of years, for a seamless handover. As you will be aware, the team has been working on two feasibility studies, PhosOne and Mount Lyell.

Speaker #5: And we now have the ability to organically grow an integrated recycling platform without needing to necessarily chase new acquisitions. Our Century Zinc Retreatment business in Australia has also had a very good year, from a stellar safety performance through to increased production of 101 kilotons of payable metal and a 17% decrease in all costs to $1,920 a tonne, which exceeded guidance.

Speaker #5: This team is very ably led by Barry Harris , and I want to thank Robert , who was the executive lead through the last couple of years , for a seamless handover As you will be aware , the team has been working on two feasibility studies Fosse one and Mount Lyell .

Speaker #5: Mount Lyell feasibility study is currently under assurance, review, and evaluation. We expect to have a close-out review in early May.

Charles Carter: The Mount Lyell feasibility study is currently under assurance, review, and evaluation. We expect to have a close-out review in early May. The PhosOne study is expected to be completed end of March, with assurance targeted to be completed end of May. Final decisions will be made within our disciplined capital allocation framework that Richard has spoken to. Given the remaining short life at Century, a pathway to new opportunities in Australia is important, and I'm looking forward to spending time with the team on the ground next week and working through the opportunity set. With that, let me hand over to Robert. Thank you.

Speaker #5: The first one study is expected to be completed end of March, with assurance targeted to be completed end of May. Final decisions will be made within our disciplined capital allocation framework that Richard has spoken to, given the remaining short life at Century, a pathway to new opportunities in Australia is important and I'm looking forward to spending time with the team on the ground next week and working through the opportunity set.

Speaker #5: With that , let me hand over to Robert . Thank you . Thank you Charles and hello , everybody . Sibanye Stillwater has a substantial life of mine and solid project base focusing only on the precious metals .

Robert van Niekerk: Thank you, Charles, and, hello, everybody. Sibanye-Stillwater has a substantial life of mine and a solid project base. Focusing only on the precious metals, we've got 356 million ounces in the resource category, of which about 16%, 58.2 million ounces, has been converted into the mineral reserve category. SA PGM operations contribute about 50% of the resource base, 177 million ounces, and again, about 16% of that has been converted into reserves, 29.4 million ounces. If you look on the right-hand side of the slide, you can see that these reserves serve very, very significant operations. Some of the Rustenburg operations have in excess of 32 years life. The Marikana K4 project, for example, has a 45-year life of mine, and the Marikana East Fort project has a 34-year life of mine.

Speaker #5: We've got 356,000,000 ounces in the resource category, of which about 16%, or 58.2 million ounces, has been converted into the mineral reserve category.

Speaker #5: Saipem operations contribute about 50% of the resource base—177,000,000 oz. And again, about 16% of that has been converted into reserves.

Speaker #5: 29 . Point 4,000,000oz . If you look on the right hand side of the slide , you can see that these reserves serve very , very significant operations .

Speaker #5: Some of the operations have in excess of 32 years life . The K4 project , for example , has a 4045 year life of mine and American East Fork Project has a 34 year life of mine as Richard said earlier on our bold operations are mature .

Robert van Niekerk: As Richard said earlier on, our gold operations are mature. They are all leveraged to the gold price, but I would like to add they are very insignificant. We have a 43 million ounce resource and a 9.4 million ounce reserve. The Beatrix operation in the Free State is a solid operation. The Driefontein operation is a very solid operation, and our DRD operation is a world-class tailings retreatment operation. We also have the Burnstone project, which is destined to become a very efficient, shallow, low-cost, 25-year life of mine operation. The second biggest category of our resource base is our US operations. Here we have 89 million ounces in resource, of which only 19.4 million ounces have been converted into reserves. Again, these assets are highly leveraged.

Speaker #5: They all leave Rich to the gold price. But I would like to add, they are very insignificant. We have a 43 million ounce resource and a 4 million ounce reserve.

Speaker #5: The Beatrix operation in the Free State is a solid operation. The Different Time operation is a very solid operation, and our DoD operation is a world-class tailings retreatment operation.

Speaker #5: We also have the Bernstein Project , which is destined to become a very efficient , shallow , low cost , 25 year life of mine operation .

Speaker #5: The second biggest category of our resource base is our US operations. Here we have 89,000,000 ounces in resource, of which only 19,400,000 ounces have been converted into reserves.

Speaker #5: Again , these assets are highly leveraged . They are hard grade . They are quality assets . And again , if you look at the right hand side of the slide , the Stillwater mine has a 26 year life of mine .

Robert van Niekerk: They are hard drive, they are quality assets, and again, if you look at the right-hand side of the slide, the Stillwater mine has a 26-year life of mine, and the East Boulder mine has in excess of 30 years, actually 35 years of life of mine. I would also like to add that this year we have included a maiden reserve for the Moedykani East project in the SAPGM region. We have also included a maiden reserve for the Cook TSF and a maiden reserve for the Mount Lyell copper project in Tasmania, Australia. In closing, I'd like to leave everybody on the call with a message that next year, 2026 and 2027, Sibanye-Stillwater will be focusing on converting a large percentage of the abundant resources into reserves. With that, I'm gonna hand over to Melanie. Thank you very much.

Speaker #5: And the East Boulder mine has in excess of 30 years , actually , 35 years of of mine . I would also like to add that this year we have included a maiden reserve for the Marikana East project in the SAP gem region .

Speaker #5: We have also included a maiden reserve for the TSF and a maiden reserve for the Mount Lyell copper project in Tasmania, Australia.

Speaker #5: In closing, I'd like to leave everybody on the call with a message that next year, '26, and 2027, Sibanye Stillwater will be focusing on promoting a large percentage of the abundant resources into reserves.

Speaker #5: With that, I'm going to hand over to Melanie. Thank you very much.

Speaker #6: Thank you, Robert. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening to all attendees. Our renewable energy program remains central to our journey towards carbon neutrality.

Melanie Naidoo-Vermaak: Thank you, Robert. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening to all attendees. Our renewable energy program remains central to our journey towards carbon neutrality, having set ourselves a target to reduce our emissions by 40% come 2030. Now, with the conclusion of the new agreements with Etana and NOA, our renewable pipeline has expanded to 765MW, delivering nearly the same capacity as a single Koeberg unit, and thus strengthening our energy security and accelerating progress towards carbon neutrality. Naturally, this positions us as the largest contracted private renewable energy off-taker in South African mining. With this portfolio, come 2028, it will supply more than half of our South African energy needs.

Speaker #6: Having set ourselves a target to reduce our emissions by 40% come 2030, and now with the conclusion of the new agreement with Aetna and NOAA, our renewable pipeline has expanded to 765 MW, delivering nearly the same capacity as a single unit, and thus strengthening our energy security and accelerating progress towards carbon neutrality.

Speaker #6: Naturally , this positions us as the largest contracted private renewable energy uptake in South African mining , and with this portfolio , and come 2028 , it will supply more than half of our South African energy needs .

Speaker #6: It will generate over $1 billion in annual savings and avoid 2.6 million tonnes of CO2 each year, a 41% reduction from our 2024 levels.

Melanie Naidoo-Vermaak: It will generate over $1 billion in annual savings and avoid 2.6 million tons of CO2 each year, a 41% reduction from our 2024 levels. At the same time, our operations, high water demand, and presence in water-stressed catchments make strong water stewardship critical. Through disciplined management practices and our investment in advanced water treatment plants, we've significantly reduced potable water reliance and increased resilience, and also contributed to margins. Four of our operations are now fully independent of municipal potable water, with our gold assets at 94% independence. Importantly, though, the water liberated through these efforts is equivalent to the needs of a mid-sized city and an essential social contribution in a water-scarce country that's currently grappling with water challenges.

Speaker #6: At the same time, our operations' high water demand and presence in water-stressed catchments make strong water stewardship critical to disciplined management practices. Our investment in advanced water treatment plants has significantly reduced potable water reliance and increased resilience, and has also contributed to margins for our operations. Our operations are now fully independent of municipal potable water, with our gold assets at 94% independence.

Speaker #6: Importantly, though, the water liberated through these efforts is equivalent to the needs of a mid-sized city and an essential social contribution in a water-scarce country that's currently grappling with water challenges.

Speaker #6: Our commitment to communities remains equally strong, and through the Marikana renewal process, we prioritize addressing the needs of affected families and rebuilding trust, and a key focus was closing the housing gap for families not supported by the AMCU Trust.

Melanie Naidoo-Vermaak: Our commitment to communities remains equally strong, and through the Marikana renewal process, we've prioritized addressing the needs of affected families and rebuilding trust. A key focus was closing the housing gap for families not supported by the AMCU Trust. I'm pleased to share that we delivered the final 2 of 17 houses, honoring our commitment to the widows. As a business, we remain committed to shared value with all stakeholders as we earn trust where we operate. Thank you, and handing over to you, Charles.

Speaker #6: I'm pleased to share that we delivered the final two of seventeen houses, honouring our commitments to the widows. As a business, we remain committed to shared value with all stakeholders as we earn trust where we operate.

Speaker #6: Thank you, and handing over to you, Charles.

Speaker #5: Thanks, Melanie. At Caleb, we are looking forward to hosting a market day in a couple of months and doing a deep dive on the operation.

Charles Carter: Thanks, Melanie. At Keliber, we are looking forward to hosting a market day in a couple of months and doing a deep dive on the operation. When you get there, you will see a really impressive build, and the team on the ground, led by Hannu Hätilä, has done an incredible job in completing the build program on schedule, and where changes to spend were related to revised permit requirements late in the process. This is Sibanye's first greenfields project build, and it has been incredibly well-executed. The financial investment decision for the refinery was made in November 2022. In October 2023, the scope change for the effluent treatment plant was approved, along with authorization to begin construction of the concentrator. Mechanical completion has been achieved for all components of both the concentrator and refinery, with the exception of the rotary kiln, kiln at the refinery.

Speaker #5: When you get there, you will see a really impressive build, and the team on the ground, led by Hannah Hatala, has done an incredible job in completing the program on schedule, and where changes to spend were related to revised permit requirements late in the process.

Speaker #5: This is Savannah's first greenfields project build, and it has been incredibly well executed. The financial investment decision for the refinery was made in November 2022.

Speaker #5: In October 2023, the scope change for the effluent treatment plant was approved, along with authorisation to begin construction of the concentrator. Mechanical completion has been achieved for all components of both the concentrator and refinery, with the exception of the rotary kiln at the refinery.

Speaker #5: As you may be aware, mining activities were delayed due to postponing contract signing until the completion of the deep dive analysis.

Charles Carter: As you may be aware, mining activities were delayed due to postponing contract signing until the completion of the deep dive analysis in the second half of last year. Commissioning of the concentrator, crusher, conveyance system, sorting plant, and laboratory is scheduled to be completed ahead of plan. The phased approach is a direct outcome of the deep dive work conducted by the corporate technical team. The guidance is that we will produce at least 15,000 kilotons to 20,000 kilotons of spodumene this year, either for direct sale or as a feed into the refinery, if approved late year and subject to market conditions. Let me unpack the stage approach in a little more detail. Stage one, EUR 783 million, is the initial capital and excludes any other pre-production SRB costs.

Speaker #5: In the second half of last year, commissioning of the concentrator crusher conveyance system, sorting plant, and laboratory is scheduled to be completed ahead of plan.

Speaker #5: The phased approach is a direct outcome of the deep dive work conducted by the corporate technical team. The guidance, that is, that we will produce at least 15,000 to 20,000 kilotonnes this year, either for direct sale or as a feed into the refinery.

Speaker #5: If approved , late year and subject to market conditions . Let me unpack the stage approach in a little more detail . The stage €1 783 million is the initial capital and excludes any other pre-production SRB costs 237 kilotons of stockpile is required by year end and to counter the limitation put on the mining permit being capped at 540 kilotonnes .

Charles Carter: 237 kilotons of stockpile is required by year-end, and to counter the limitation put on the Syväjärvi mining permit being capped at 540 kilotons. Stage two, spodumene grade of greater than 5.1%, is targeted to ensure a sellable product which will not incur penalties or rejection from commercial counterparties. Stage three, refinery start-up decision, is conditional on the market assessment at the time. If there's a pause, we will continue with spodumene sales. Stage four, focus on technical grade, will allow the team to sort out processing issues before quality issues. The team will continue to incorporate lessons learned from other facilities. Stage five, decision to proceed with ramp-up to produce battery-grade lithium.

Speaker #5: Stage two Spodumene grade of greater than 5.1% is targeted to ensure a sellable product, which will not incur penalties or rejection. Commercial companies' stage three refinery start-up decision is conditional on the market assessment at the time.

Speaker #5: If there's a pause, we will continue with spot sales. Stage four focus on technical grade will allow the team to sort out processing issues before quality issues.

Speaker #5: The team will continue to incorporate lessons learned from other facilities. Stage five decision to proceed with ramp-up to produce battery-grade lithium.

Speaker #5: It must be noted that the qualification process for battery grade may take six to nine months, which means battery grade could be commercially available, likely at the earliest.

Charles Carter: It must be noted that the qualification process for battery grade may take 6 to 9 months, which means battery grade could be commercially available likely at the earliest in 2028. On the operational overview, it's important to note that the feasibility profiles had a number of, satellite ore bodies in as well. As far back as 2023, we have kicked off mining optimization studies, which resulted in the extended life-only out of the Syväjärvi and Rapasaari pits. We intend to kick off further work on the other pits, as well as this year, work on the Tuoreetsaaret, which is a new pit which will lie close to Rapasaari. When you are on site, you'll see that we have a strong land position with further exploration options ahead of us at the right time.

Speaker #5: In 2028, on the operational overview, it's important to note that the feasibility profiles had a number of satellite ore bodies in, as well as far back as 2023.

Speaker #5: We have kicked off mining optimization studies , which resulted in the extended life only after the and pits . We intend to kick off further work on the other pits , as well as this year , work on the tooth , which is a new pit which will lie close to When you are on site , you'll see that we have a strong land position with further exploration options ahead of us .

Speaker #5: At the right time, and given all the exploration juniors that have pegged claims outside of our lease boundary, I have no doubt that the lithium story has legs in northern Western Finland for a very long time to come.

Charles Carter: Given all the exploration juniors that have pegged claims outside of our lease boundary, I have no doubt that the lithium story has legs in northern Western Finland for a very long time to come. The spike in SIRB in 2008, in the graph on the lower left, is mainly driven by the waste stripping for the Rapasaari pit. The cost overview will be updated as we get new insights from our cost optimization and debottlenecking studies, and certainly, the team is focused on improving this picture. Here, the further optimization work is focused primarily on the following work streams: mining study work to optimize pit design, pushbacks, and stockpiling. We're targeting here a potential EUR 10 to 15 million savings, and the mine to deliver a stockpile of 50 kilotons, or by 30 June, about one month of inventory.

Speaker #5: The spike in Seb in 2008, in the graph on the lower left, is mainly driven by the waste stripping for the pit.

Speaker #5: The cost overview will be updated as we get new insights from our cost optimization and bottling studies. And certainly, the team is focused on improving this picture here.

Speaker #5: The further optimization work is focused primarily on the following work streams: mining study work to optimize pit design, pushbacks, and stockpiling.

Speaker #5: We're targeting here at potential €10 to €15 million savings, and the mine to deliver a stockpile of 50 kilotonnes by 30th of June—about one month of inventory.

Speaker #5: As I noted, 237 kilotonnes need to be on stockpile to ensure stable production in 2027. The concentrator study is targeting a spodumene grade above 5.1% to optimize spodumene concentrate sales and boost refinery capacity.

Charles Carter: As I noted, 237 kilotons to be on stockpile to ensure stable production in 2027. The concentrator study is targeting spodumene grade above 5.1% to optimize spodumene concentrate sales and boost refinery capacity. Metallurgical work on grade versus recovery is in progress. First-grade recovery curves issued for mining production planning are also taking place. Cost reduction and efficiency optimization, targeting a potential unit cost decrease of $1,000 per ton of lithium hydroxide, has a number of components. We're reviewing the procurement for more cost savings, developing a full digital twin of the value chain to further optimize. We're studying the personnel and staffing optimization opportunities, and we're reassessing the maintenance strategy and costs post-ramped up.

Speaker #5: Metallurgical work on grade versus recovery is in progress. First grade-recovery curves issued for mining, production planning are also taking place.

Speaker #5: Cost reduction in efficiency optimization, targeting a potential unit cost decrease of $1,000 per ton of lithium hydroxide, has a number of components.

Speaker #5: We are reviewing the procurement for more cost savings, developing a full digital twin of the value chain to further optimize. We are studying the personnel and staffing optimization opportunities, and we are reassessing the maintenance strategy and costs.

Speaker #5: Post ramped up . So there's a lot of further optimization work on the go . And I'm confident that , you know , we'll start to see gains from that in the next few months .

Charles Carter: So there's a lot of further optimization work on the go, and I'm confident, that, you know, we'll start to see gains from that in the next few months. Refinery debottlenecking studies targeting higher throughput potential and overall yield improvement are also on the go. This is about increasing refining capacity by adding a magnetic separator and resolving process bottlenecks. We're looking to boost the yield 2 to 3%, recovering lithium from the effluent treatment stream, reducing ETP costs by reviewing current initiatives and working with other third parties to support refinery commissioning and ramp-up phases. With that, thank you, and let me hand over to Charles.

Speaker #5: Refinery debottlenecking studies targeting higher throughput potential and overall yield improvement are also on the go. This is about increasing refining capacity by adding a magnetic separator and resolving process bottlenecks.

Speaker #5: We look to boost the yield 2 to 3%, recovering lithium from the effluent treatment stream, reducing costs by reviewing current initiatives, and working with other third parties to support refinery commissioning and ramp-up phases.

Speaker #5: With that, thank you, and let me hand over to Charl.

Speaker #4: Thank you Charles .

Charl Keyter: Thank you, Charles. Good morning to all participants. It gives me great pleasure to share the financial results for the year ended 2025. If we start with the key highlights, headline earnings per share for 2025 increased 281% to ZAR 2.44 per share. During the same period, adjusted EBITDA increased almost threefold, from ZAR 13 billion to just under ZAR 38 billion, a 189% increase. As a reminder, we have set a target of reducing gross debt by 50% from the current ZAR 2.2 billion level over the next two to three years. The through-the-cycle net gearing target of below 1x net debt to EBITDA remains consistent with our financial policy and has served us well during periods of constrained commodity prices.

Speaker #3: Good morning to all participants. It gives me great pleasure to share the financial results for the year ended 2025. If we start with the key highlights, headline earnings per share for 2025 increased 281% to 244.

Speaker #3: South African cents per share during the same period. Adjusted EBITDA increased almost threefold, from 13 billion rand to just under 38 billion rand, a 189% increase.

Speaker #3: As a reminder, we have set a target of reducing gross debt by 50% from the current $2.2 billion level over the next two to three years. A through-the-cycle net gearing target of below one times net debt to EBITDA remains consistent with our financial policy and has served us well during periods of constraint.

Speaker #3: Commodity prices. If we look at our net debt to adjusted EBITDA at the end of 2025, it is down from 1.77 times at the end of 2024 to 0.59 times at the end of 2025. As a reminder, the dividend declared for 2025.

Charl Keyter: If we look at our net debt to Adjusted EBITDA at the end of 2025, it is down from 1.77 times at the end of 2024 to 0.59 times at the end of 2025. As a reminder, the dividend declared for 2025, as you would have heard, is ZAR 131 cents per share or 2% yield. Turning to the income statement, revenue increased by 16% and costs were down 8%. However, as highlighted on the previous slide, this translated to an increase of almost 200% in Adjusted EBITDA.

Speaker #3: As you would have heard, it is 131 cents per share, with a 2% yield. Turning to the income statement, revenue increased by 16% and costs were down 8%.

Speaker #3: However, as highlighted on the previous slide, this translated to an increase of almost 200% in adjusted EBITDA. Note, items for 2025 include the following.

Charl Keyter: Noteworthy items for 2025 include the following: The loss on financial instruments of ZAR 3.8 billion was mainly due to the impact of the protective gold hedges that amounted to ZAR 1.7 billion, as well as a revaluation of the Burnstone debt. With the sharp increase in the long-term price of gold, the Burnstone debt is now expected to be fully repaid, and that meant that we had to increase this liability by ZAR 1.7 billion. Another big item that impacted this period, impairments for the year at the US PGM operations, Keliber and Kloof, amounted to ZAR 15.8 billion. The impairment at Kloof was due to the reduction in the life of mine, due to the removal of isolated blocks of ground for safety reasons.

Speaker #3: The loss on financial instruments of R3.8 billion was mainly due to the impact of the protective gold hedges that amounted to R1.7 billion, as well as a revaluation of the Bernstein debt.

Speaker #3: With the sharp increase in the long term price of gold , the Bernstein debt is now expected to be fully repaid , and that meant that we had to increase this liability by 1.7 billion rand .

Speaker #3: Another big item that impacted this , this period , impairments for the year at the US , PGA operations Calibre and QF amounted to 15.8 billion rand .

Speaker #3: The impairment at QF was due to the reduction in the life of mine, resulting from the removal of isolated blocks of ground for safety reasons.

Speaker #3: The impairment at the USbm operations and Calibre were the result of changes in economic parameters, such as long-term prices. This was partially offset by the reversal of impairments at Beatrix, Driefontein, and Bernstein due to the increase in the long-term price of gold.

Charl Keyter: The impairment at the USPGM operations and Keliber were the result of changes in economic parameters, such as long-term prices. This was partially offset by the reversal of impairments at Beatrix, Driefontein, and Burnstone, due to the increase in the long-term price of gold. The transaction cost includes the $215 million or ZAR 3.6 billion settlement of the Appian claim. If we look at the net other costs, that benefited from credits in 2024 that were one-off and did not repeat in 2025. It is important to note that taxes and royalties of ZAR 4.3 billion increased in proportion to our profitability. As already mentioned, a full year dividend of ZAR 3.7 billion, or at the top end of the range, 35% of normalized earnings will be paid.

Speaker #3: The transaction cost includes the $215 million , or 3.6 billion rand settlement of the Appian Claim . If we look at the net other costs that benefited from credits in 2024 that were once off and did not repeat in 2025 , it is important to note that taxes and royalties are 4.3 billion rand , increased in proportion to our profitability As already mentioned , a full year dividend of 3.7 billion rand , or at the top end of the range , 35% of normalized earnings will be paid compared to the last dividend that we paid in 2023 .

Charl Keyter: Compared to the last dividend that we paid in 2023, this represents an increase of 146% on an absolute basis. In 2025, we had significant non-routine cash impacts that affected our financial results. These included the Appian payment and the gold hedges that was put in place in December 2024 to ensure the ongoing sustainability of our gold operations.... The question that a lot of people will ask is: What would your financial results have looked like in the absence of these non-routine items? The short answer is that the money available for the three areas of distribution would have increased by ZAR 5.2 billion to approximately ZAR 14.6 billion, and each bucket would have been allocated ZAR 4.9 billion.

Speaker #3: This represents an increase of 146% on an absolute basis in 2025. We had significant, non-routine cash impacts that affected our financial results. These included the Appian payment and the gold hedges that were put in place in December 2024 to ensure the ongoing sustainability of our gold operations.

Speaker #3: The question that a lot of people will ask is, what would your financial results have looked like in the absence of these non-routine items?

Speaker #3: The short answer is that the money available for the three areas of distribution would have increased by 5.2 billion rand to approximately 14.6 billion rand , and each bucket would have been allocated 4.9 billion rand .

Speaker #3: However , in 2025 , on a look basis , we did allocate more to growth as one . The revised allocation model was not in place , and two , we were finalising the project Importantly , for 2026 , our growth capital plan , excluding DRD is 3.7 billion rand compared to the 9.4 billion rand that we spent in 2025 .

Charl Keyter: However, in 2025, on a lookback basis, we did allocate more to growth as, one, the revised allocation model was not in place, and two, we were finalizing the Keliber project. Importantly, for 2026, our growth capital plan, excluding DOD, is ZAR 3.7 billion, compared to the ZAR 9.4 billion that we spent in 2025. The growth capital excludes Burnstone and other projects in study phase, and as we generate more cash and earn the right to allocate more to each bucket, these will be considered. Our debt maturities remain manageable due to a well-constructed maturity profile. Gross debt was ZAR 39 billion, and less the cash on hand of ZAR 17 billion equated to net debt of ZAR 22 billion. Liquidity headroom is strong at ZAR 40 billion, or roughly 5.5 months of OpEx plus CapEx.

Speaker #3: The growth capital excludes Bernstein and other projects in the study phase, and as we generate more cash and earn the right to allocate more to each bucket, these will be considered. Our debt maturities remain manageable due to a well-constructed maturity profile.

Speaker #3: Gross debt was 39 billion and less . The cash on hand of 17 billion equated to net debt of 22 billion . Liquidity headroom is strong at 40 billion rand , or roughly five and a half months of opex plus CapEx .

Speaker #3: The next priority on our debt profile will be the upcoming renewal and downsizing of our 2026 €675 million bond, and the target date for completion is before the end of half one, 2026.

Charl Keyter: The next priority on our debt profile will be the upcoming renewal and downsizing of our 2026, $675 million bond, and the target date for completion is before the end of H1 2026, and this will be subject to support of markets. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. I will now pass the baton to Cleanthra, who will discuss market performance. Thank you, Cleanthra.

Speaker #3: And this will be subject to supportive markets. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. I will now pass the baton to Kleantha Pillay, who will discuss market performance.

Speaker #3: Thank you. Kleantha Pillay.

Speaker #7: Thanks , Charlie , and good morning , everyone Markets were characterized by tariff uncertainty and geopolitical tensions throughout 2025 and into 2026 . And this has driven the precious metals rally gold spot prices broke the $4,500 mark during December , up 73% since the beginning of the year , and driven again by geopolitics , wars and a weak US dollar .

Kleantha Pillay: Thanks, Charles, and good morning, everyone. Markets were characterized by tariff uncertainty and geopolitical tensions throughout 2025 and into 2026, and this has driven the precious metals rally. Gold spot prices broke the $4,500 mark during December, up 73% since the beginning of the year, and driven again by geopolitics, wars, and a weak US dollar. Gold ETFs were up 25% year-on-year to 4,000 tons, and central bank buying continued. The platinum price rally has been driven largely by tariff uncertainty and was exacerbated by primary supply disruptions during the first half of the year. GE recycling volumes were up 9% year-on-year. However, this is still below the pre-COVID levels, despite better prices attracting hoarded stock. The tariff uncertainty has resulted in significant platinum flows into both the US and China.

Speaker #7: Gold ETFs were up 25% year on year to 4,000 tons, and central bank buying continued. The platinum price rally has been driven largely by tariff uncertainty and was exacerbated by primary supply disruptions during the first half of the year.

Speaker #7: GE recycling volumes were up 9% year on year . However , this is still below the pre-COVID levels despite better prices attracting hoarded stock .

Speaker #7: The tariff uncertainty has resulted in significant platinum flows into both the US and China . Over 600,000oz of platinum was imported into the US in July , compared with normal levels of around 200,000oz between July and October , 1,000,000oz of above normal levels moved into the US , and overall platinum imports were up over 50% year on year .

Kleantha Pillay: Over 600,000 ounces of platinum was imported into the US in July, compared with normal levels of around 200,000 ounces. Between July and October, 1 million ounces of above normal levels moved into the US, and overall platinum imports were up over 50% year-on-year. NYMEX stocks quickly reached a peak of about 630,000 ounces in April, and then dropped back to 280,000 ounces in July. This, as reciprocal tariffs were delayed, and then PGMs were on the list of goods not subject to tariffs. Stocks then jumped back to around 700,000 ounces in October, as the outcome of the Section 232 investigation was delayed due to the government shutdown. Since then, the outcome has been announced as negotiations, not tariffs, so uncertainty still lingers.

Speaker #7: Nimax stocks quickly reached a peak of about 630,000 oz in April, and then dropped back to 280,000 oz in July. This was because reciprocal tariffs were delayed, and then PGM's were on the list of goods not subject to tariffs.

Speaker #7: Stocks then jumped back to around 700,000 oz in October. The outcome of the Section 232 investigation was delayed due to the government shutdown.

Speaker #7: Since then , the outcome has been announced as negotiations , not tariffs , so uncertainty still lingers . Imports of platinum into China also increased steadily during the first half of the year , and then fell back in the second half as prices became too high .

Kleantha Pillay: Imports of platinum into China also increased steadily during the first half of the year, and then fell back in the second half as prices became too high. Investors and jewelry manufacturers switched into platinum as gold just became too expensive. Overall, platinum imports into China were up 7% year-on-year to 4.5 million ounces, supported by the launch of the platinum futures trading on the Guangzhou Futures Exchange in November. Large daily trading volumes, north of 6 million ounces per day in December, resulted in the GFEX having to implement restrictions on trading. Platinum demand, and along with it, palladium during 2025, was largely driven by investment and speculation rather than by fundamental industrial requirements. Over the near term, we continue to forecast deficits for both platinum and palladium, while the rhodium market balance will remain close to balance.

Speaker #7: Investors and jewelry manufacturers switched into platinum as gold just became too expensive . Overall , platinum imports into China were up 7% year on year to 4.5 million ounces , supported by the launch of the Platinum futures trading on the Guangzhou Futures Exchange in November .

Speaker #7: Large daily trading volumes north of 6,000,000 oz per day in December resulted in a GFX having to implement restrictions on trading platinum demand and, along with it, palladium.

Speaker #7: During 2025, was largely driven by investment and speculation rather than by fundamental industrial requirements. Over the near term, we continue to forecast deficits for platinum and palladium, while the rhodium market balance will remain close to balance.

Speaker #7: The recent rally in prices has set us a new, higher base, and the heightened focus on securing critical minerals will continue to drive regional supply chains.

Kleantha Pillay: The recent rally in prices has set us a new higher base, and the heightened focus on securing critical minerals will continue to drive regional supply chains, with it, price differentiation. Moving on to lithium, the appreciation in lithium prices during Q4 was driven by China's anti-involution drive and the clampdown on primary supply in that country, as well as from better-than-anticipated demand from battery energy storage systems. China changed the feed-in tariff model for renewable energy mid-2025, unlocking demand for energy storage systems. Prices moved from a low $7,000 per ton level up to just over $16,000 per ton currently. Inventory levels remain low, as CATL's lepidolite mine has yet to start producing again, and winter supply from brine production is reduced.

Speaker #7: And with it , price differentiation and now moving on to lithium , the appreciation in lithium prices during quarter four was driven by China's anti drive and the clampdown on primary supply in that country , as well as from better than anticipated demand from battery energy storage systems .

Speaker #7: China changed the feed in tariff model for renewable energy Mid 2025 , unlocking demand for energy storage systems . Prices moved from a low $7,000 per ton levels up to just over $16,000 per ton .

Speaker #7: Currently, inventory levels remain low as Kettle’s Lepidolite mine has yet to start producing again, and winter supply from brine production is reduced.

Speaker #7: Looking out to 2029, battery energy storage system demand is expected to grow at a 23% CAGR, while demand from battery electric vehicles will grow at a 9% CAGR.

Kleantha Pillay: Looking out to 2029, battery energy storage system demand is expected to grow at a 23% CAGR, while demand from battery electric vehicles will grow at a 9% CAGR. The market is expected to remain in surplus over the medium term and will start tightening from 2028 and 2029. New supply will need to be incentivized by higher prices. Looking forward to the rest of this year, we remain bullish on gold. We believe that PGM prices have reset at a higher base, but will continue to be volatile. And similarly, we believe that lithium prices will continue to be influenced by Chinese decision-making. We will therefore continue to focus on what is in our control, performance and delivery at our operations. I'll now hand back to Richard to conclude.

Speaker #7: The market is expected to remain in surplus over the medium term and will start tightening from 2028 and 2029. New supply will need to be incentivized by higher prices.

Speaker #7: Looking forward to the rest of this year . We remain bullish on gold . We believe that PJM prices have reset at a higher base , but will continue to be volatile and similarly , we believe that lithium prices will continue to be influenced by Chinese decision making .

Speaker #7: We will therefore continue to focus on what is in our control: performance and delivery at our operations. I'll now hand back to Richard to conclude.

Speaker #3: Thanks very much . And then I guess just heading into the last section to to wrap up with , I think just starting off with our , with our guidance for , for 2026 on the outlook , starting off with our South African PJM operations , I think a very slight decline in terms of our production guidance in line with the overall life of mine profile that many of you will be familiar with .

Neal Froneman: Thanks very much, Diante. Then I guess, just heading into the last section to, to wrap up with. I think just starting off with our, with our guidance for, for 2026 and the outlook. Starting off with our South African PGM operations, I think a, a very slight decline in terms of our production guidance, in line with the overall, life of mine profile that, many of you will be familiar with. But no significant changes across the, across the South African PGM operations. Guidance of the South African gold operations is slightly lower than what we, what we achieved this year or during 2025. And that is driven largely by the reduction of output at the Kloof operations, as Richard touched on earlier.

Speaker #3: But no significant changes across the across the South African PJM operations guidance of the South African gold operations is slightly lower than what we what we achieved .

Speaker #3: This year or during 2025 . And that is driven largely by the reduction of output at the turf operations . As Richard touched on earlier , I think in terms of the upm's , we do see a slight increase in terms of output at the underground operations .

Neal Froneman: I think in terms of the US PGMs, we do see a slight increase in terms of output at the underground operations. That is coupled with the ongoing work towards reducing the overall unit costs down towards $1,000 per ounce. And associated with that, we do see an increase in some of the capital as we start making those investments. On the recycling, we have quoted our production guidance as gold equivalent ounces, so you'll see 400 to 420 thousand ounces there. Please note that is gold equivalent. We produce a range of metals. But I think when looking at it on this basis, it does just demonstrate the significance of this business.

Speaker #3: That is coupled with with the ongoing work towards reducing the the overall unit costs down towards $1,000 per ounce and associated with that , we do see an increase in some of the capital as we start making those those investments on the recycling .

Speaker #3: We have quoted our production guidance as gold equivalent ounces. So you'll see 400,000 to 420,000 ounces there. Please note that is gold equivalent.

Speaker #3: We produce a range of metals, but I think when looking at it on this basis, it does just demonstrate the significance of this business.

Speaker #3: Almost half a million equivalent gold ounces that we have built over the time of a , as we mentioned , low capital intensity , very low capital base on caliber .

Neal Froneman: Almost half a million equivalent gold ounces that we have built over the time, of a, as we mentioned, low capital intensity, very low capital base. On Keliber, the guidance we are providing is we are anticipating producing spodumene concentrate as we ramp up the concentrator. At this stage, whether or not that goes into refinery, of course, will be dependent on the decision that is made on the commissioning of the refinery. In terms of total costs, we are guiding towards a total expenditure of about EUR 180 to 190 million. Just to unpack that briefly, approximately half of that, about EUR 90 million, is the remaining project capital that was due to get spent predominantly in the first quarter and a little bit in Q2.

Speaker #3: The guidance we are providing is we are anticipating producing spodumene concentrate as we ramp up the concentrator . At this stage , whether or not that goes into refinery , of course , will be dependent on the decision that is made on the commissioning of the refinery .

Speaker #3: And in terms of costs , we are guiding towards a total expenditure of about 180 to €190 million , just to unpack that briefly , approximately half of that about €90 million , is the remaining project capital that was due to get spent predominantly in the first quarter and a little bit in quarter two , so that is in line with the original Project capital of €780 million that we've shared with the market , and the balance is really the the costs of the as we ramp up the the overall operation at Century Zinc , this is likely to be the last full year of production out of Century Zinc .

Neal Froneman: So that is in line with the original project capital of EUR 780 million that we shared with the market. And the balance is really the costs of as we ramp up the overall operation. At Century Zinc, this is likely to be the last full year of production out of Century Zinc, and again, largely in line with what was achieved during 2025. So just moving on to the strategy. I think as we outlined in my earlier slides, I think we've set a very solid base, moving forward into 2026. The four key pillars that we have with regards to our strategy being simplification, simplification of our operating model and our portfolio. Performance excellence, which I think you heard us touching on today and unpacking around safe production.

Speaker #3: And again , largely in line with with what was achieved during 2025 . So just moving on to onto the strategy , I think as we outlined in my earlier slides , I think we've set a very solid base moving forward into 2026 .

Speaker #3: The four key pillars that we have with regards to our strategy being simplification, simplification of our operating model and our portfolio, performance excellence, which I think you've heard us touching on today.

Speaker #3: And unpacking around safe production, operational excellence, optimizing our resources to maximize value, and embedding sustainability in the way that we operate growth, which is initially focused on the value creation.

Neal Froneman: Operational excellence, optimizing our resources to maximize value and embedding sustainability in the way that we operate. Growth, which is initially focused on the value creation we believe we can drive from our existing resources, and therefore unlocking organic value. And finally, a disciplined capital allocation model. By bringing these four pillars together with the base that we've set in 2025, we are certainly confident that we can unlock significant value, as we move forward into, into 2026, irrespective of the environment that we find ourselves operating in. I think just wrapping up with the, with the overall strategy that we shared with the market at the end of January, towards creating a, a future-focused metals business.

Speaker #3: We believe we can drive from our existing resources and therefore unlocking organic value . And finally , a disciplined capital allocation model by bringing these four pillars together with the base that we've set in 2025 , we are certainly confident that we can unlock significant value as we move forward into into 2026 , irrespective of the environment that we find ourselves operating in .

Speaker #3: I think just wrapping up with the with the overall strategy that we shared with the market at the end of January towards creating a future focused metals business in the short term , our strategy is very much focused on strengthening our business fundamentals , and this will be achieved through increasing our operating margins through our operational excellence , simplifying our operating model and and ultimately simplifying our portfolio towards highest return assets and cash generative assets .

Neal Froneman: In the short term, our strategy is very much focused on strengthening our, our business fundamentals, and this will be achieved through increasing our operating margins through our operational excellence, simplifying our operating model, and, and ultimately simplifying our, our portfolio towards highest return assets, and cash generative assets. I think if we're successful in this regard, we will be generating free cash through a disciplined capital allocation framework, that looks at returning capital to shareholders, reducing our total gross debt, and investing in the, the growth and sustainability of the business, particularly unlocking our inherent, resource value. We certainly see that as ultimately continuing to build our business, building our production profile, and continuing to build on our resource stewardship model across primary mining, secondary mining, and recycling.

Speaker #3: I think if we are successful in this regard, we will be generating free cash through a disciplined capital allocation framework that looks at returning capital to shareholders, reducing our total gross debt, and investing in the growth and sustainability of the business, particularly unlocking our inherent resource value.

Speaker #3: We certainly see that as ultimately continuing to build our business , building our production profile and continuing to build on our resource stewardship model across primary mining , secondary mining and recycling So , ladies and gentlemen , I think in conclusion , once again , thank you for joining us today .

Neal Froneman: Ladies and gentlemen, I think in conclusion, once again, thank you for joining us today. To try and sum up in three quick points, I think where we are sitting today as a business, we've had a solid operational output in 2025, and I think we're well positioned moving into 2026 to unlock the significant value that we have within our portfolio. I think we have seen a noisy set of financials, but looking through that, there is some real financial stability in the company. We've reduced our gearing significantly, and certainly at the current commodity prices that we are experiencing and the operational output that we are achieving, we look forward to some significant cashflow as we move forward.

Speaker #3: To try and sum up in three quick points, I think this is where we are sitting today as a business. I think we've had a solid operational output in 2025, and I think we're well positioned moving into 2026 to unlock the significant value that we have within our portfolio.

Speaker #3: I think we have seen a noisy set of financials, but looking through that, there is some real financial stability in the company.

Speaker #3: We've reduced our gearing significantly, and certainly at the current commodity prices that we are experiencing, and the operational output that we are achieving, we look forward to some significant cash flow as we move forward.

Speaker #3: And then I think we finally have a resilient and a disciplined strategy . This is a strategy that is independent of of the external environment and positions us for long themes , which we see underpinning growth within the commodities market Just in terms of way forward , as we did share with you at the end of January , we launched our strategy on the 29th of January .

Neal Froneman: I think we finally have a resilient and disciplined strategy. This is a strategy that is independent of the external environment and positions us for long-term themes, which we see underpinning growth within the commodities market. Just in terms of way forward, as we did share with you at the end of January, we launched our strategy on 29 January. Today, we have shared our results, but as we move forward at the end of April, we will be looking to have a two-day capital markets day focused specifically on our international operations. That will be a webcast as well as an in-person visit in Finland at our Keliber operations, but will also cover both US recycling and Australian operations.

Speaker #3: Today , we have shared our results , but as we move forward at the end of April , we will be looking to have a two day Capital Markets day focused specifically on our international operations .

Speaker #3: That will be a webcast as well as an in-person visit in Finland to our operations, but will also cover both US recycling and Australian operations.

Speaker #3: And then, towards the end of June, another two-day Capital Markets Day in South Africa, specifically focused on our gold and PGM operations.

Neal Froneman: Then towards the end of June, another two-day capital markets day in South Africa, specifically focused on our gold and PGM operations. So we look forward to engaging with you and getting those invitations out. And thank you once again for joining us today, and of course, we happy to take any questions you may have. Thank you very much, and over to you, James.

Speaker #3: So, we look forward to engaging with you and getting those invitations out. And thank you once again for joining us today.

Speaker #3: And of course, we're happy to take any questions you may have. Thank you very much. And over to you, James.

Speaker #8: Thanks , Richard . Thanks , gentlemen . Got a couple of questions here . I think we'll start with the questions . I'm sorry Questions .

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thanks, Richard. Thanks, gentlemen. Got a couple of questions here. I think we'll start with the Kloof questions. Sorry, Keliber questions. Sorry, I'm missing my K's up here. At Keliber, you note that initial value realization depends on producing and selling spodumene concentrate at a specified grade during the concentrator startup. How do you assess the risk of achieving specification grade in the early stages of ramp-up? Can you give us some comfort around achieving these initial targets? That's from Arnold van Graan.

Speaker #8: Sorry, I'm missing my case up here at Calibre. You note that initial value realization depends on producing and selling spodumene concentrate at a specified grade during the concentrator startup.

Speaker #8: How do you assess the risk of achieving specification? Grade in the early stages of ramp-up? Can you give us some comfort around achieving these initial targets?

Speaker #8: That's from Arnold Van Horn. Okay.

Speaker #3: Thanks very much . Arnold . Good to hear from you I'll ask Ralph to come in and join me on some of the details , but just just on a high level .

Neal Froneman: Thanks very much, Arnold. Good, good to hear from you. I'll ask Ralf to come in and join me on some of the details, but just on a high level, let me maybe just unpack the sort of... We've spoken about the stage ramp-up and why it mitigates risk. I think a lot of the work, initially, the feasibility study for Keliber was, of course, based on mining all the way through to a final battery product. A lot of the work that we did in the second half of last year was around looking at these independent steps, both the costs associated with them, the commercial viability associated with them, and almost if you were to optimize, for example, just up to a spodumene concentrate, you know, what would that mean?

Speaker #3: Let me , let me maybe just unpack the sort of we've spoken about the stage ramp up and why it mitigates risk . I think a lot of the work initially , the feasibility study for caliber was , of course , based on mining all the way through to a final battery product , a lot of the work that we did in the second half of last year was around looking at these independent steps , so both the costs associated with them , the commercial viability associated with them , and almost if you were to optimize , for example , just up to a spodumene concentrate , you know , what would that mean ?

Neal Froneman: What's come out of that work is essentially we are confident that we can look at this in different stages. That we can have an initial stage that, in its own right, is commercially viable. And of course, that gives us the option to remain at that point. But we are also aware of a lot of the work that's currently going on in the EU, as well as for Western economies, generally, things like Project Bolt, but also EU looking at self-sustainability and supply of critical minerals. And we think that this will have an impact on what the ultimate sort of pricing layout looks like in time to come. And that, of course, is a key aspect of how we look at the refinery and when and how we turn that on.

Speaker #3: What's come out of that work is, essentially, we are confident that we can look at this in different stages; that we can have an initial stage that, in its own right, is commercially viable.

Speaker #3: And of course , that gives us the option to to remain at that point . But we are also aware of of a lot of the work that's currently going on in the EU , as well as Western , Western economies generally .

Speaker #3: Things like Project Volt, but also the EU. Looking at self-sustainability and supply of critical minerals. And we think that this will have an impact on what the ultimate sort of pricing layout looks like in time to come.

Speaker #3: And that, of course, is a key, key aspect of how we look at the refinery, and when and how we turn that on.

Neal Froneman: So, I'll let Ralf answer some of your more detailed questions, but I think just on a high level to note, that was a lot of the work we have done, and out of that, very confident that we can look at the project in different stages, each being commercially viable in their own right. But Ralf, please feel free to add anything there.

Speaker #3: So, I'll let Ralph answer some of your more detailed questions, but I think just on a high level, to note that that was a lot of the work we have done.

Speaker #3: And out of that, very confident that we can look at the project in different stages, each being commercially viable in their own right.

Speaker #3: But Ralph, please feel free to add anything there.

Speaker #9: Yeah , thanks , Richard . And Arnold , I Water . So just to give you a conference , we always tested the spot .

Ralph Lombard: Yeah. Thanks, Richard, and Arnold. I am Ralf Ombach, Head of Projects with Sibanye-Stillwater. So just to give you confidence, we always tested the spodumene grade, even during the feasibility, and we're quite confident we can push the grade in the high limits of more than 5%, based on those test work. Also, the concentrator is very traditional technologies, so obviously, we test the recovery versus spodumene grade. So we're quite confident and we're also confident in Syväjärvi, which is our first pit. It's quite a high grade with the lithium oxide percentage of close to 1.1% and even more at certain stages, which will also assist us in getting that higher grade.

Speaker #9: Even. Great. Even during the feasibility, and we're quite confident we can push a grade in the limits of more than 5% based on those test work.

Speaker #9: Also , the concentrator is very traditional technologies . So obviously we test the recovery versus spot . Even . Great . So quite confident .

Speaker #9: And we are also confident in Sovijarvi, which is our first pit. Great with the lithium oxide percentage of close to 1.1%, and even more at certain stages, which will also assist us in getting that higher grade.

Speaker #9: So from a caliber perspective, we don't see any new risks because we are pushing a II's great initially. Thanks. I hope that answers your question.

Ralph Lombard: So from a Keliber perspective, we don't see any new risk because we are pushing a higher spodumene grade initially. Thanks. I hope that answers your question.

Speaker #8: Thanks , Ralph . Second question is on impairment due to the longer term lithium price forecast stage , start up to preserve flexibility , questionnaires .

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thanks, Ralf. Second question is on impairment due to the longer-term lithium price forecast, stage startup to preserve flexibility. Question is: What long-term lithium price assumption underpins the revised recoverable amount at Keliber, and at what price level does the project fail to meet our hurdle rate?

Speaker #8: What long-term lithium price assumption underpins the revised recoverable amount at Kilobit, and at what price level does the project fail to meet?

Speaker #8: Our hurdle rate

Speaker #3: Very much . Let me maybe pick up on the on the hurdle rate question . And Shaul , if I could ask you then to pick up just on the prices that were used for our impairment .

Neal Froneman: Very much. Let me maybe pick up on the, on the hurdle rate question, and, and, Charles, if I could, ask you then to pick up just on the prices that were we used for our impairment. So I think in terms of hurdle rates, you know what... Well, let's put it this way, I think what you see in terms of the total project, as we've shared with you, you know, we currently have an all-in sustaining cost of about 12,000-odd dollars per ton. That is, if we go all the way through to a battery grade. You know, so we've, we've always said we would obviously like to see prices, I guess, you know, well in excess of that in order to meet our internal hurdle rates.

Speaker #3: So I think in terms of hurdle rates , you know what ? Well , let's put it this way . I think what you see in terms of the total project , as we've shared with you , you know , we currently have an all in sustaining cost of about 12,000 odd dollars per tonne .

Speaker #3: That is , if we go all the way through to a battery grade , you know , so we've we've always said we would obviously like to see prices .

Speaker #3: I guess, well in excess of that in order to meet our internal hurdle rates. So, looking at a region of $14,000 to $15,000 is where we'd want to see it sustainably, at least going forward.

Neal Froneman: So looking at the region of 14 to 15 thousand, you know, is where we'd wanna see it sustainably, at least going forward, on that basis. I think importantly, of course, what we are assessing as part of this is also the opportunity, on the earlier stage concentrate. And of course, that then is driven by, by spodumene concentrate prices. I think critically, you know, the long-term opportunity of this project is about supplying battery grade into the European ecosystems. We never built this really just to sell spodumene concentrate into, into more broader Chinese supply chains. So I think that's the opportunity that we've, that we've really got for this particular project. Thanks. But Charles, would you like to pick up on the long-term price for the payment models? Thank you.

Speaker #3: On that basis , I think importantly , of course , what we are assessing as part of this is also the opportunity on the earlier stage , concentrate .

Speaker #3: And of course , that then is driven by by spodumene concentrate prices . I think critically , you know , the long term opportunity of this project is about supplying battery grade into the European ecosystems .

Speaker #3: We never built this really just to sell squad . You mean concentrate into into more broader Chinese supply chains . So I think that's the opportunity that we've that we've really got with this particular project .

Speaker #3: Thanks . But , Charles , would you like to pick up on the long term price for the impairment models . Thanks . Yeah .

Charl Keyter: Yeah. Thank you, Richard. So the average price that we've used over the life of the mine, but obviously appreciate that the price builds up over the duration of the life of mine. The average price was just under $17,500 per ton. And that equates roughly to a long-term price of about $20,000 per ton. Thanks.

Speaker #7: Thank you, Richard. So, the average price that we've used is over the life of the mine, but obviously we appreciate that the price builds up over the duration of the life of mine.

Speaker #7: The average price was just under 17,500 USD per tonne . And that equates roughly to a long term price of about 20,000 USD per tonne , thanks

Speaker #8: The further question on what the remaining book value for KRB is.

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): A further question on what the remaining book value for Keliber is?

Speaker #7: Yes . So the remaining book value is , is 9 billion rand , or just under €460 million . James .

Charl Keyter: Yes. The remaining book value is ZAR 9 billion, or just under EUR 460 million. James?

Speaker #10: Thank you .

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thank you. And, Richard, for you, what are the next steps in the battery metal strategy?

Speaker #8: And Richard, for you, what are the next steps in the battery metals strategy?

Speaker #3: Very much . I think as we as we share our strategy day , you know , I think our our long term strategy as a company still remains to , to be able to supply metals that , that ultimately will support decarbonisation and , and energy transition .

Neal Froneman: Very much. I think as we shared at our strategy day, you know, I think our long-term strategy as a company still remains to be able to supply metals that ultimately will support decarbonization and an energy transition. So that remains the long-term strategy. You know, I think it's broader than perhaps just battery metals, but in the short term, our strategy is very much around optimizing the current portfolio. So as it stands today, you know, we have our core operations of our South African gold, our South African PGMs, our US PGMs, recycling, and Keliber. You know, and that is where our focus will be, and certainly our investment into our organic project there.

Speaker #3: So , so that that remains the long term strategy . I think it's broader than perhaps just battery metals . But in the short term , our strategy is very much around optimizing the current portfolio .

Speaker #3: So as it stands today , you know , we have our core operations of our South African gold , our South African pgms , our US Pgm's recycling and caliber .

Speaker #3: You know , and that is where our focus will be . And certainly our investment into our organic projects there . I think we will continue to assess the various projects , and that is where I did share with the market the the growth framework that we've developed , which talks about the different metals .

Neal Froneman: I think we will continue to assess the various projects, and that is where I did share with the market the growth framework that we've developed, which talks about the different metals we'll look at and the jurisdictions we'll consider. You know, that will ultimately drive how we think about it. But as I say, our sort of immediate focus, our short-term strategy, is very much on delivering from our core operations.

Speaker #3: We'll look at in the jurisdictions . We'll consider , you know , that will ultimately drive how we think about it . But as I say , our sort of immediate focus , our short term strategy is very much on delivering from our core , core operations .

Speaker #3: Thank you . Richard .

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thank you, Richard. Thank you for this wonderful presentation. Well done, IR team. Thank you. Can one expect this level of financial performance going forward, should the commodity prices hold? Richard, are you going to take that or Charles?

Speaker #8: Thank you for this wonderful presentation . Well done . Thank you Ken . One expect this level of financial performance going forward . Should the commodity prices hold Richard , are you going to take that or Charles .

Speaker #3: Yeah . Happy to happy to take that . More generally I mean I think , you know , as we as we mentioned on a high level , of course , I think the benefit of the prices that we saw coming through gold , of course , we saw coming through throughout most of the year .

Neal Froneman: Yeah, happy to, happy to take that more generally. I mean, I think, you know, as we mentioned on a high level, of course, I think the benefit of the prices that we saw coming through gold, of course, we saw coming through throughout most of the year, but the really big, all of these prices ramped up towards the end of the year. PGMs really only started recovering in H2 with a significant ramp-up in December. So of course, I think the type of financial that you've seen were based more on a back-ended portion of the year that delivered most of the value. But I think what we would look forward to, prices remaining exactly the same.

Speaker #3: But the really big move in all of these prices ramped up towards the end of the year. PGMs really only started recovering in H2, with a significant ramp up in December.

Speaker #3: So, of course, I think the type of financials that you've seen were based more on a back-ended portion of the year that delivered most of the value.

Speaker #3: But I think what we would look forward to , prices remaining exactly the same , I think as I mentioned , we've had a noisy set of numbers and quite a few one offs that we've had to deal with .

Neal Froneman: I think, as I mentioned, we've had a noisy set of numbers and quite a few once-offs that we've had to deal with. So if anything, under this environment, everything else the same, I would expect to see slightly improved financials with that noise out the window. But as Cleanthra mentioned, you know, the approach that we're adopting for the year ahead, I think we, we've got great tails of wins with the commodity prices. I think we see new bases being set. I think this market's being driven by a world that's scrambling to secure critical metal, so that's likely to remain. But it will be volatile, and certainly that's the way we're positioning it and looking at our business for the year ahead.

Speaker #3: So if anything , under this environment , everything else the same , I would expect to see slightly improved financials with with that noise out the window .

Speaker #3: But as Clint mentioned , you know , the approach that we're adopting for the year ahead , I think we we've got great tailwinds with the commodity prices .

Speaker #3: I think we see new bases being set. I think this market’s being driven by a world that’s scrambling to secure critical metals.

Speaker #3: So that's likely to remain . But it will be volatile . And certainly that is that's the way we positioning it . And looking at our business for the year ahead Thank you Richard .

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thank you, Richard. Given the record gold prices, to what extent are the reserve reductions at Kloof structural geotechnical constraints versus price sensitive? Would a sustained higher gold price justify reextending the mine life?

Speaker #8: Given the record , gold prices , to what extent are the reserve reductions at Cliff Structural geotechnical constraints versus price sensitive wood ? A sustained higher gold price justify re extending the mine life .

Speaker #3: Thanks , James . Let me let me take a first crack at that . And Rich , if you'd like to add anything .

Neal Froneman: Thanks, James. Let me take a first crack at that, and Richard, if you'd like to add anything. I mean, I think critically, so of course, you know, as has been noted, I think we do have slightly conservative prices that we use for reserves. And the reason for that is we look to do our long-term mine planning and capital allocation based on what we still see as through cycle prices. Ultimately, you're making capital decisions for really long, long, long durations. I do however think at Kloof, it's important to say that I don't think gold price was not a factor at all in terms of the decisions that we made. The decision to reduce Kloof was a safety decision, first and foremost.

Speaker #3: I mean , I think critically so of course , you know , as has been noted , I think we we do have slightly conservative prices that we use for reserves .

Speaker #3: And the reason for that is we look to do our long-term mine planning and capital allocation based on what we still see as through-cycle prices.

Speaker #3: Ultimately , you're making capital decisions for for really long , long , long durations . I do , however , think at Cliff , it's important to say that I don't think gold price was not a was not a factor at all in terms of the decisions that we made .

Speaker #3: The decision to reduce Cliff was a safety decision first and foremost. We did have some shafts that were coming to the end of their life anyway.

Neal Froneman: We did have some shafts that were coming to the end of their life anyway. That was part of the plan, during the course of last year. Kloof 7 Shaft, in particular, was planned to close, but then we lost volume due to safety. And that decision, I think when we make a decision to stop mining here, is because of safety. Price, price is not a factor that gets considered in those decisions at all. So what we are looking at with Kloof, essentially, is an operation that today is producing a lot less than it was obviously designed to. That means it's got a very high fixed cost base, and fundamentally, you know, that means your unit cost goes up.

Speaker #3: That was part of the plan. During the course of last year for Seven Shaft in particular, it was planned to close, but then we lost volume due to safety and that decision.

Speaker #3: I think when we make a decision to stop mining areas because of safety, price is not a factor that gets considered in those decisions at all.

Speaker #3: So what we are looking at with Cliff, essentially, is an operation that today is producing a lot less than it was obviously designed to.

Speaker #3: That means it's got a very high fixed cost base, and fundamentally, you know, that means your unit cost goes up according to our reserve price we use, i.e. through the cycle.

Neal Froneman: According to our reserve price we use, i.e., through the cycle, you know, we do not have long life reserves at Kloof. But we fully recognize that at these prices, Kloof remains profitable, and we can continue to mine it, as long as the prices remain where they are. So we have put a year-to-year plan in place. We will continue to assess Kloof at those prices, and I think that brings significant benefits, as Rich mentioned, not only commercial and cash flow for the company, but of course, also is a large employer. So we will keep Kloof going for as long as it is profitable and makes sense. But we won't be declaring or changing significantly the life of mine and reassessing capital at these numbers.

Speaker #3: You know , we do not have long life reserves at Cliff , but we fully recognize that at these prices , cliff remains profitable and we can continue to mine it as long as the prices remain where they are .

Speaker #3: So we have put a year to year plan in place . We will continue to assess Cliff at those prices , and I think that brings significant benefits .

Speaker #3: As Rich mentioned , not only commercial and cash flow for for the company , but of course also is a large employer . So we will keep Cliff going for as long as it is profitable and makes sense .

Speaker #3: But we won't be declaring or changing significantly the life of mine, and reassessing capital at these numbers.

Speaker #8: Thanks, Rich. I guess, related question, but can you give us a sense of your gold operations excluding DRD Gold environmental liabilities, and how much of this is funded through the environmental trust?

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): ... Thanks, Rich. I guess a related question, but can you give us a sense of your gold operations, excluding DRDGOLD, environmental liabilities, and how much of this is funded through environmental trust? So I guess that's rehab. I'm trying to get a sense of the longer-term cash flow impact, should there be further closures or rationalization.

Speaker #8: So, I guess that's rehab. I'm trying to get a sense of the longer-term cash flow impact. Should there be further closures or rationalization?

Speaker #3: Sure, Charl Keyter, perhaps ask you to pick that up, or Rich.

Neal Froneman: Sure. Charles, can I perhaps ask you to pick that up, or Rich?

Speaker #4: Would you pick that .

Richard Cox: Happy to pick that up. Thanks for the question. So we do have a liability over the gold operations of ZAR 5.4 billion, and of the ZAR 5.4 billion, ZAR 4.7 billion is funded, and the balance then is with guarantees. Thanks, James.

Speaker #3: Up

Speaker #4: Thanks for the question . So we do have a liability over the gold operations of 5.4 billion and of the 5.4 billion , 4.7 billion is funded and the balance then is , is with guarantees Thanks , James .

Speaker #3: Thanks, Shaul. Anything you'd like to add to that, or...

Neal Froneman: Thanks. Charles, anything you'd like to add to that, or?

Speaker #7: No . No . Rich . All covered . Thank you .

Charl Keyter: No. No, Rich, all covered. Thank you.

Speaker #3: Thanks . Thank you

Richard Cox: Thanks.

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thank you. Well, now I've got a question for you, Charles, actually, so go back on screen. How should we model the benefits of Section 45X credits in 2026 and 2027 in particular, and how this relates to cash flows? Related to that is, when are we expecting to receive the credits from 2023 and 2024's cash? Is the higher CapEx—oh, okay, that's a separate question. Let's just stick to Section 45X.

Speaker #8: Well , now I've got a question for you . Actually . So . And go back on screen . How should we model the benefits of section 45 credits in 26 and 27 in particular .

Speaker #8: And how this relates to cash flows. And then related to that is, when are we expecting to receive the credits from 2023 and 2024?

Speaker #8: Is cash and is the higher CapEx okay , let's that's a separate question . Let's just section 45 X .

Speaker #7: Yeah . So in terms of 45 x , the 23 and 24 payment should sorry , the 23 and 24 credits . We are expecting that in 2026 .

Charl Keyter: Yeah. So in terms of Section 45X, the 2023 and 2024 payment, Sorry, the 2023 and 2024 credits, we are expecting that in 2026, and then thereafter, we expect it to flow in the year following the claim. So the 2025 claim to flow at the back end of 2026, and then similarly, 2026 towards the back end of 2027, give or take a few months.

Speaker #7: And then thereafter, we expect it to flow in the year following the claim. So, the '25 claim to flow at the back end of '26, and some early '26 towards the back end of '27, give or take a few months.

Speaker #8: Just on when we're expecting the '23 and '24.

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Just on when are we expecting the 2023 and 2024?

Speaker #7: Yeah , so 23 and 24 James . We expect in 2026 due to the the the large amounts and this being fairly new , those amounts are subject to examination as it's referred to in the US or as we refer to an audit .

Charl Keyter: Yeah. So 23 and 24 gems, we expect in 2026. Due to the large amounts and this being fairly new, those amounts are subject to examination as it's referred to in the US or, as we refer to, an audit. Again, you know, we are working closely with our tax advisors, and we are continuously following up.

Speaker #7: But again, you know, we are—we are working closely with our tax advisers, and we are continuously following up.

Speaker #10: Thank you .

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thank you. Question on the higher CapEx at SA PGMs in 2026, due to some deferral spend in 2025. Is it, is it because of that, or what other factors?

Speaker #8: Question on the higher CapEx at SAP . James , in 2026 . Due to some deferral of spend in 2025 , is it is it because of that or what other factors

Speaker #3: Thanks , James . So I'll ask Rich to pick that up . I don't think it's so much a deferral in 2025 , but we do have an increase in CIB around some specific projects .

Neal Froneman: Thanks, James. I'll ask Rich to pick that up. I don't think it's so much a deferral in 2025, but we do have an increase in SIB around some specific projects. But Rich, perhaps I can hand over to you, please, to pick that up.

Speaker #3: But Rich, perhaps I can hand over to you, please, to pick that up.

Speaker #4: Yeah . Thanks , Rich . So there is a little bit of extra expenditure within our precious metal refinery , as well as some trackless mining machinery , but largely year on year .

Richard Cox: Thanks, Rich. So there is a little bit of extra expenditure within our precious metal refinery, as well as some tractors, mining machinery. But largely year on year, it's the same, except for those extra pickups in the tractors, mobile machinery, and in the precious metal refinery. Thanks, James.

Speaker #4: It's the it's the same except for those extra pickups in the trackless mobile machinery and in the precious metals binary . Thanks , James .

Speaker #4: Good .

Speaker #10: Thank you .

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thank you. So the related question to that, I'm not sure if it is relevant, but is capital spent on ore reserve development what type of development is funded from this CapEx, and what type of development is funded from working operating costs? And in terms of the Kopanang Deeps project, will it be a similar layout and arrangement to Siphumelele mechanized section, and which vertical shaft would be used to transport men and materials?

Speaker #8: So the related question to that , I'm not sure if it is relevant , but is capital spent on or reserve development ? What type of development is funded from this CapEx and what type of development is funded from working , operating costs ?

Speaker #8: And in terms of the project, will it be a similar layout or arrangement to the mechanized section, and which vertical shaft would be used to transport men and materials?

Speaker #4: I can pick those

Richard Cox: I can pick those.

Speaker #3: Thanks, James. Perhaps we'll ask Rich just to pick up on and call on the capital. Thank you.

Neal Froneman: Thanks, James. Perhaps we'll ask, Rich, just to pick up on Kopanang and Charles on the capital. Thank you.

Speaker #7: Thanks. Shall I go, Rich?

Charl Keyter: Thanks. Shall I go, Rich?

Speaker #3: Please go ahead, Charles.

Neal Froneman: Please go ahead, Charles.

Speaker #7: Okay , so in terms of all reserve development , it is effectively underground development work . That's undertaken to to open up access and prepare declared mineral reserves for , for mining in the future .

Charl Keyter: Okay. So in terms of ore reserve development, it is effectively underground development work that's undertaken to open up access and prepare declared mineral reserves for mining in the future production periods. But I have to specify here that the amount that gets capitalized is specifically the off-reef development to open up those ore blocks. The reef plane or on-reef development is expensed in the period that it's incurred. I hope that answers it.

Speaker #7: Production periods . But I have to specify here that the amount that gets capitalized is specifically the off reef development to , to to open up those all blocks .

Speaker #7: The reef plane on reef development is expensed in the period that it's incurred. I hope that answers that.

Speaker #8: On the accompanying deeps layout, etc.

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): On the Kopanang Deeps layout, et cetera.

Speaker #4: Please take that James . Thank you . So couponing is a concept study at the moment . It's a very attractive down tip extension .

Richard Cox: I'll take that, James.

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thank you.

Richard Cox: So Kopanang is a concept study at the moment. It's a very attractive down the extension. So the strike is over 5 kilometers, and that is then the challenge of how to gain access. So very good question. So initially, we will gain access on one of the flanks through a down-the-extension of the Bambanani asset. But then Komanani offers a very attractive into the ore body. However, Kopanang, Komanani 2 shaft doesn't have a rock pass, so we have to look at other down-the-extension, and then possibly even a down-the development of a decline from Komanani as well. So man and material, probably through Komanani and Bambanani in the initial phases, but I think in the long term, there are other more attractive options for bigger volumes.

Speaker #4: So the strike is over five kilometres, and that is then the challenge of how to gain access. So very good question. So initially, we will gain access on one of the flanks through down dip extension of the Bambanani asset.

Speaker #4: But then offers a very attractive entry into the ore body. However, Copenhagen 2 Shaft doesn't have a rock pass. So we have to look at other downdip extensions, and then possibly even a down development of a decline from as well.

Speaker #4: So man and material , probably through and bambanani in the initial phases . But I think in the long term there are other more attractive options for , for bigger volumes .

Speaker #4: We will be doing a pre-feasibility study in 2026 to sharpen up those carry forward options. Thanks, James. Thank you.

Richard Cox: We will be doing a pre-feasibility study in 2026 to sharpen up those carry-forward options. Thanks, James.

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): ... question for Cleanthra, I guess. How will the GFEX impact prices this year? Should there be physical delivery for May and June?

Speaker #8: Question for clients, I guess: how will the GFF impact prices this year? Should there be physical delivery for May and June?

Speaker #11: Yeah , thanks , James , and thanks for that question . Look , I think essentially we're going to see heightened metal flows into China , at least up until settlement date .

Kleantha Pillay: Yeah, thanks, James, and Arnold, thanks for that question. Look, I think essentially we're gonna see heightened metal flows into China, at least up until settlement date. So we've got a good price underpin there for platinum, and I think we're also gonna see lease rates moving up a little bit as we get closer to that date. Once that settlement date is reached, essentially, you're gonna have a very nice, cleverly made platinum stockpile in China. And I think post that, you will get some price correction. But, yeah, that is the nature of investment demand, unfortunately. So I think we will see some underpin, and then we'll see a bit of correction post that settlement date. Thanks.

Speaker #11: So we've got a good price underpin there for platinum. And I think we're also going to see lease rates moving up a little bit as we get closer to that date.

Speaker #11: Once that settlement date is reached, essentially you're going to have a very nice, cleverly made platinum stockpile in China. And I think post that you will get some price correction.

Speaker #11: But yeah, that is the nature of investment demand, unfortunately. So I think we will see some underpin, and then we'll see a bit of a correction post that settlement date.

Speaker #11: Thanks

Speaker #8: The US now in the US , PJM operations repositioning now for optimized for current . Sorry that's a bit okay . Basically the question is are we repositioning for current to EPM prices or is there further downside risk if prices soften

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): The US now. In the US PGM operations, repositioning now for optimized for current 2E-- Sorry, so the... Okay, basically the question is: Are we repositioning for current 2E PGM prices, or is there further downside risk if prices soften?

Speaker #3: Thanks , James . I'll pick that up . Initially . I think , you know , as as we have shared and as Charles unpacked in our objective in the US is is ultimately to get our cost base down closer to $1,000 per ounce .

Neal Froneman: Thanks, James. So I'll let me pick that up initially. I think, you know, as we have shared and as Charles unpacked, you know, our objective in the US is ultimately to get our cost base down closer to $1,000 per ounce. And again, the reason for that target is that's because that's where we see sort of through cycle, I guess being a low point, and therefore, you know, that operation being able to wash its own face sustainably with significant option to the, or optionality to the upside in terms of palladium prices.

Speaker #3: And again , the reason for for that target is that because that's where we see sort of through cycle , I guess , being a low point and therefore , you know , that operation , being able to to wash its own face sustainably with significant option to the or optionality to the upside in terms of palladium prices .

Neal Froneman: So we—I think in terms of have we positioned it for the current palladium prices, you know, I think right now our objective, we restructured that operation two or three years ago, to position it for the downturn that we saw. And our focus right now is on achieving those cost levels. Once we've achieved those, you know, then we will be able to assess the operations going forward and understand what the what a new base could look like. As Charles mentioned, we do have the opportunity to relook at Stillwater West in time, but today that's not currently part of the focus. The focus will be on East Boulder and Stillwater West, so largely in line with the current production levels.

Speaker #3: So , so we I think in terms of have we positioned it for the current palladium prices ? I think right now our objective , we restructured that operation 2 or 3 years ago to position it for for the downturn that we saw and our focus right now is on achieving those those cost levels .

Speaker #3: Once we've achieved those , you know , then we will be able to assess the the operations going forward and understand what the what a new base could look like .

Speaker #3: As Charles mentioned, we do have the opportunity to relook at Stillwater West in time. But today, that's not currently part of the focus.

Speaker #3: The focus will be East Boulder and Stillwater West, so largely in line with the current production levels.

Speaker #8: Thanks , Richard . Questions on streams and hedging . Could you give us an update on the streaming deals ? I guess that the details of streaming deals and then unpack your hedging book for us .

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thanks, Richard. Questions on streams and hedging. Could you give us an update on the streaming deals? I guess the details of the streaming deals, and then unpack your hedging book for us. Ounces per year, and at what price?

Speaker #8: Ounces per year, and at what price?

Neal Froneman: Thanks, James. So let me maybe take the streaming question, and Charles, if you could then follow on with some of the hedge questions. So I think in terms of the stream, we fundamentally have two streams within the company at the moment. One is at the Stillwater operations. That stream largely considers a palladium stream of about 4.5%, and most of the gold that comes out of that operation. So that's, and that is a sort of evergreen stream. I think it does step down at some point to sort of 2.5%, but that is, that's still quite a bit out. So that's the one stream that we've got in place. The second stream that we have in place is on the South African PGM operations.

Speaker #3: Thanks , James . So , so let me maybe take the streaming question and Shaul , if you could then follow on with the with some of the hedge questions .

Speaker #3: So I think in terms of the stream, we fundamentally have two streams within the company at the moment. One is at the Stillwater operations.

Speaker #3: That stream largely considers a palladium stream of about 4.5%. And most of the gold that comes out of that operation. So that's, and that is a sort of evergreen stream.

Speaker #3: I think it does step down at some point to 2.5% , but that is that's still quite a bit out . So so that's the one stream that we've got in place .

Speaker #3: The second stream that we have in place is on the South African PGM operations. That stream again considers all of the gold that is produced from those operations, which is about 1% of the total metal.

Neal Froneman: That stream, again, considers all of the gold that is produced from those operations, which is about 1% of the total metal. And then, if I recall, it's about 2.5% on platinum, which also steps down, and that is there for the life of the current mine. That does not include any extensions beyond that, so the platinum is limited to the current life of mine.

Speaker #3: And then if I recall , it's about 2.5% on platinum , which also steps down . And that is there for the life of the the current mine .

Speaker #3: It does not include any extensions beyond that. So the platinum is limited to the current life of mine. That's it.

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): The hedge book?

Speaker #7: Thanks, Rich. If we look at the gold hedges—so, in December 2023, we entered into some hedging arrangements for our South African gold operations.

Charl Keyter: Thanks, Rich. If we look at the gold hedges, so, in December 2023, we entered into some hedging arrangements for our South African gold operations. These hedges were put in place to protect the downside, specifically around our legacy assets. Well, all, all of the hedges have now been concluded at the end of December 2025, so there are no further gold hedges in place at the current moment. Thank you.

Speaker #7: These hedges were put in place to protect the downside , specifically around our legacy assets . They have . Well , all of the hedges have now been concluded at the end of December 2025 .

Speaker #7: So, there are no further gold hedges in place at the current moment. Thank you.

Speaker #8: Thanks , Charl . Charl , probably one for you again . What are the plans with the convertible bond due 2028 ? Given that it is now in the money from Lorenzo Parisi ?

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thanks, Charles. Charles, probably one for you again. What are the plans with the convertible bond due 2028, given that it's now in the money? From Lorenzo Parisi.

Speaker #7: Yeah , so ? So so we'll keep an eye on the convertible bond . It's got a 2028 maturity , but it's got a call option so we can call it towards the end of the year .

Charl Keyter: Yeah. So we'll keep an eye on the convertible bond. It's got a 2028 maturity, but it's got a call option, so we can call it towards the end of the year. And we'll just monitor it carefully to see, you know, what we do in terms of the convertible bond. Based on current prices, it is in the conversion territory, but for now, the focus is on refinancing the 2026 $675 million bond, and we'll just carefully monitor the convertible bond going forward.

Speaker #7: And we'll , we'll we'll just monitor carefully to see , you know , what what we do in terms of the convertible bond based on current prices .

Speaker #7: It is in the conversion territory. But for now, the focus is on refinancing the 2026 $675 million bond. And we'll just carefully monitor the convertible bond going forward.

Speaker #8: The value of that convertible bond on the balance sheet is in debt.

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): The value of that convertible bond on the balance sheet, as in debt?

Speaker #7: It's it's $500 million .

Charl Keyter: Yes, that's $500 million.

Speaker #10: Okay .

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thank you. In terms of simplification, Richard, might we, might we think about the Finnish and possibly the Australian assets being potentially available for sale? Thank you.

Speaker #8: In terms of simplification, Richard, might we think about the Finnish and possibly the Australian assets being potentially available for sale?

Speaker #10: Thank you .

Speaker #3: Thanks very much. I think we've been sort of quite clear at the moment that the Calibre Lithium Project certainly forms part of our strategic priority assets.

Neal Froneman: Thanks very much. I think we've been sort of quite clear at the moment that the Keliber lithium project certainly forms part of our strategic priority assets. I think we see that as a very valuable asset. I think the short answer to that is no. You know, I think when we look at the Australian assets today, you know, the new Century Zinc operations have been very successful. We remain very committed to those operations until the closure of those and the completion of that particular project. In Australia, we have a couple of projects that are being assessed. We have the Mount Lyell project.

Speaker #3: I think we see that as a very valuable asset . So so I think the short answer to that is no . You know , I think when we look at the Australian assets today .

Speaker #3: You know, the New Century zinc operations have been very successful. We remain very committed to those operations until the closure of those and the completion of that particular project.

Speaker #3: In Australia , we have a couple of projects that are that are being assessed . We have the Mount Lyell project . You know , I think as we mentioned , certainly , you know , copper is a is a metal that we would be interested in if we could see value accretion in those opportunities .

Neal Froneman: You know, I think, as we mentioned, certainly, you know, copper is a metal that we would be interested in if we could see value accretion in those opportunities. So Mount Lyell will currently be assessed, as Charles said, and understand whether or not that meets our hurdle rates and our overall capital investment criteria. And then we do have opportunities as well with the Phos 1 project to extend the New Century or to utilize the New Century infrastructure post mining of zinc. You know, I think it would be a wonderful opportunity to see that infrastructure continue being used. Phosphate likely does not fit in with our sort of strategic focus going forward.

Speaker #3: So Mount Lal will currently be assessed as Charles said, and we'll understand whether or not that meets our hurdle rates and our overall capital investment criteria.

Speaker #3: And then we do have opportunities as well with the FOS One project to extend the New Century or to utilize the New Century infrastructure.

Speaker #3: Post-mining of zinc. I think it would be a wonderful opportunity to see that infrastructure continue being used. Phosphate likely does not fit in with our sort of strategic focus going forward.

Neal Froneman: So, you know, our priority would be to look at how we could maximize value, try and ensure the sustainability of that project going forward, but how we could get value from that unlikely to be a core investment thesis on the phosphate side, from our side.

Speaker #3: So our priority would be to to look at how we could maximize value , try and ensure the sustainability of that project going forward , but how we could how we could get value from that unlikely to be a core investment thesis on the phosphate side from our side .

Speaker #10: Thanks .

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thanks, Richard. Just some questions on renewable energy. Can you remind us what is feeding into the operations currently, volume solar versus wind? Listen, I don't think we can give that breakdown right now, but we'll be able to get it. Oh, we got it. Okay. And what's in the pipeline, and when will it start feeding in? And then secondly, Stillwater, Sibanye-Stillwater is advancing well on the clean energy front. What is the overall renewables ambition, and what are the targets and deadlines?

Speaker #8: Richard, just some questions on renewable energy. Can you remind us what is feeding into the operations currently? Volume solar versus wind.

Speaker #8: Listen , I don't think we can give that breakdown right now , but we'll be able to get it . Oh , we got it .

Speaker #8: Okay . And what's in the pipeline and when will it start feeding in . And then secondly , Stillwater Sibanye Stillwater is advancing .

Speaker #8: Well, on the clean energy front, what is the overall renewables ambition and what are the targeted deadlines?

Neal Froneman: Hmm. Thank you very much. Perhaps, Rob, if I could maybe ask you to pick up on some of those.

Speaker #3: Thank you very much. Perhaps, Rob, if I could maybe ask you to pick up on some of those.

Speaker #5: Yes . Richard .

Robert van Niekerk: Yes, Richard. I can talk to the renewable energy. At the moment, we've got the Castle Wind Farm as well as the solar project, the Springbok Solar project, providing electricity into our operations. The Castle Wind Farm was commissioned in March. The Springbok Solar project was commissioned in September, and, to date, they've generated 293GWh. In 2026, we're gonna have another 2 plants coming into play. They are both wind farms. That is the Umsinde Emoyeni Wind Farm and the Witberg Wind Farm. And then by the end of 2026, we'll be receiving more than 400MW on an annual basis. This will exceed 727 and 728. So Lisa, I hope that answers your question on the renewable energy.

Speaker #7: I can talk to the renewable energy at the moment. We've got the Castle Wind farm, as well as the solar project. The Springbok Solar Project is providing electricity into our operations.

Speaker #7: The Castle Wind Farm was commissioned in March . The Springbok solar project was commissioned in September . And to date , that generated 293 gigawatt hours in 2026 , we're going to have another two plants coming into play .

Speaker #7: They are both wind farms. It is Cindy Wind Farm and a wind farm, and then by the end of '26, we'll be receiving more than 400 MW on an annual basis.

Speaker #7: This will exceed 727, and 28, so I hope that answers your question on the renewable energy.

Speaker #8: Thanks , Rob . That's a pretty comprehensive . Did you give the overall targets ? Sorry , I wasn't clear on that .

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thanks, Rob. That was pretty comprehensive. Did you give the overall target? Sorry, I, I wasn't clear on that.

Speaker #7: Overall target is slightly above 700 MW, James, by the end of '28.

Robert van Niekerk: Overall target is slightly about 700MW, James, by the end of 2028.

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): As big as the Kosiele unit. I think Melanie mentioned that.

Speaker #8: Unit . I think Melanie mentioned that . Correct . Pretty interesting . Let's get on to some of the sap . Jim questions .

Robert van Niekerk: Correct.

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): It's pretty interesting. Let's get on to some of the SAPGM questions. What are the key drivers of the lower SAPGM volumes and the much higher costs?

Speaker #8: What are the key drivers of the lower SAP volumes and the much higher costs?

Speaker #3: Thank you very much . Me take that one . Initially . So I think the slightly slight reduction in volume , our underground operations are in fact largely stable year on year .

Neal Froneman: Thank you very much. Let me take that one initially. So I think the slight reduction in volume, our underground operations are, in fact, largely stable year-on-year, so we aren't seeing significant change there. Much of that downgrade of about 100,000 ounces comes from a combination of surface, as well as some lower third-party assumptions on lower third-party PGM processing material. So that's the predominant driver down. I think in terms of the costs, the operating cost base, I think is actually pretty stable. You know, we're seeing that coming in line with or, in fact, below inflation.

Speaker #3: So we aren't seeing significant change . There . Much of that downgrade of about 100,000oz comes from a combination of of surface as well as some lower third party assumptions , assumptions on lower third party Parker processing material .

Speaker #3: So that's the predominant driver down . I think , in terms of the costs , the operating cost base , I think is actually pretty stable .

Speaker #3: You know , we're seeing that coming in in line with or in fact , below inflation . The big increase is largely around , I think , as we mentioned a bit earlier , the sustaining capital in particular , which is being driven by the the new projects in our refinery , specifically our opms or other precious metals plants in our precious metals refinery , as well as some upgrades to , to mechanized equipment .

Neal Froneman: The big increase is largely around, I think, as we mentioned a bit earlier, the sustaining capital in particular, which is being driven by the new projects in our refinery, specifically our OPMs or other precious metals plants in our precious metals refinery, as well as some upgrades to mechanize equipment. That's the really big driver on the cost side.

Speaker #3: That's the really big driver on the cost side.

Speaker #10: Thank you .

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thank you. Question from Incateco about production guidance being lower and then also reduction. Is it the reduction related to third-party volume or own metal? I think Richard just answered. There's quite a big decline in surface, and then we have got lower third-party metal. So I think that's pretty much been covered. The question on the Appian settlement, how it's been accounted for in the cash flow statement, Rob?

Speaker #8: Question from about production guidance being lower . And then also reduction . Is it the reduction relates to third party volume or own metal ?

Speaker #8: I think Richard's just answered this quite a big decline in surface . And then we have got lower third party metals . So I think that's pretty much been covered .

Speaker #8: The question on the Appian settlement—how it's been accounted for in the cash flow statement, Sean.

Speaker #10: Yes .

Charl Keyter: Yes, thank you. So the Appian settlement is in the cash flow from operating activities. So the number has been effectively paid or deducted in that number. So if you want to normalize cash flow from operating activities excluding Appian, you have to add that back for the year 2025.

Speaker #7: Thank you . So , so the Appian settlement is in the cash flow from operating activities . So , so the number has been effectively paid or deducted in that number .

Speaker #7: So if you want to normalize cash flow from operating activities , excluding Appian , you have that have to add that back for for the year 2025 .

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): The cash flow table that we've got in the book, that would be under corporate, would it?

Speaker #8: The cash flow table that we've got in the book, that would be under corporate.

Speaker #10: Would it .

Speaker #7: Correct .

Charl Keyter: Correct.

Speaker #8: Okay. Thank you. Question on uranium assets. When will there be a value unlock? Richard.

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Okay, thank you. Question on uranium assets. When will there be a value unlock, Richard?

Speaker #10: Yeah .

Speaker #3: Thanks very much . I mean , so I think we've got we've got the two uranium sort of assets at the moment . The one is the old Beatrix four shaft or Biser as it's known .

Neal Froneman: Yeah, thanks very much. I mean, so I think we've got, we've got the two uranium sort of assets at the moment. The one is the old Beatrix 4 Shaft or Beisa, as it's known. That is a, an asset where we are still in the process of a transaction with the junior company, Neometals Ltd, who is looking to develop that asset, and we, we retain a, an equity exposure to it. That transaction is still in process. Unfortunately, still tied up with regulatory conditions, and, and licensing that we're looking at there. But once that, once that is closed, you know, I think then we'll, we'll start seeing the opportunity to, to develop and get exposure to that project. The second big one is the Cooke Tailings project. That is the Cooke Tailings dam.

Speaker #3: That is an asset where we are still in the process of a transaction with a junior company, Neo Metals, who is looking to develop that asset.

Speaker #3: And we we retain an equity exposure to it . That transaction is still in process , unfortunately , still tied up with regulatory conditions and licensing that we're looking at .

Speaker #3: There . But once that once that is closed , I think then we'll we'll start seeing the opportunity to , to develop and get exposure to that project .

Speaker #3: The second big one is the tailings project. That is the tailings dam that is both a co-product gold and uranium opportunity. We have recently, or are in the process now, of completing the feasibility study on that.

Neal Froneman: That is both a co-product, gold and uranium, opportunity. We have recently, or we're in the process now of completing the feasibility study on that. It's going through assurance, that will also be reviewed in Q2 of this year, towards a financial decision or looking at various ways that could potentially be taken forward. So that would be the second one, and again, during the next quarter, we would come up with a decision on how to move forward on that. Those are our two current exposures to uranium.

Speaker #3: It's going through assurance that will also be reviewed in the second quarter of this year towards a financial decision, or looking at various ways that could potentially be taken forward.

Speaker #3: So, so that would be the second one. And again, during the next quarter, we would come up with a decision on how to move forward on that.

Speaker #3: So those are our two current exposures to uranium.

Speaker #10: Thank you I .

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thank you. I guess, sticking on the growth theme, what accretive investment opportunities do we see in South Africa amid the strong gold and platinum group metal price environment and with Burnstone update? And then some questions on collaboration or other with DRDGOLD.

Speaker #8: Guess, sticking on the growth theme, what investment opportunities do we see in South Africa amid the strong gold and platinum group metal price environment?

Speaker #8: And with the Bernstein update, and then some questions on collaboration or other with DRDGOLD.

Speaker #3: Yeah , thanks very much . I think , you know , as as mentioned right now , our focus in terms of opportunities on our current resources , that's where we see best returns .

Neal Froneman: Yeah. Thanks very much. I think, you know, as mentioned, right now, our focus in terms of opportunity is on our current resources. That's where we see best returns. I think any M&A in the gold space at this point in time is probably, I would suggest, high risk, depending on how you're looking at doing that, but given where the commodity cycle is, so that's not one we're looking at immediately. And again, on the PGM side, you know, I think we've said we're very happy with our portfolio. As we look forward onto the commodity markets of PGMs, now we see that playing out. And we think we've got some of the best brownfields opportunities to develop, so that's where we see our best value coming through.

Speaker #3: I think any M&A in the gold space at this point in time is probably, I would suggest, high risk, depending on how you're looking at doing that.

Speaker #3: But given where the commodity cycle is . So that's not one we're looking at immediately . And again , on the PM side , you know , I think we we've said we're very happy with our portfolio as we look forward onto the commodity markets of PMS and how we see that playing out .

Speaker #3: And we think we've got some of the best brownfields opportunities to develop. So that's where we see our best value coming through in terms of further collaboration with DRD Gold. We've been quite open in that regard.

Neal Froneman: In terms of further collaboration with DRD Gold, we've been quite open in that regard. I think it's been an excellent collaboration. I think we've seen real value created for both companies. And certainly, as we look forward to the future, we continue to build a significant secondary mining business. We are doing a lot of surface mining and projects on our PGM side. We still have some gold opportunities in South Africa, and we'd like to see that business growing. So, moving forward, I think we would certainly be keen on more collaboration with DRD Gold, and see that as a long-term, long-term partnership and future with the company.

Speaker #3: I think it's been an excellent collaboration . I think we've seen real value created for both companies , and certainly as we look forward to the future , we are building , continue to build a significant secondary mining business .

Speaker #3: We are doing a lot of surface mining and projects on our PM site. We still have some gold opportunities in South Africa, and we'd like to see that business growing.

Speaker #3: So , so moving forward , I think we'd certainly be keen on more collaboration with DRD gold and and see that as a long term , long term partnership and future with the company .

Speaker #8: Yeah , just another angle on the DRD gold side , I guess , from a gold bull or a gold base perspective , it's obviously worth about 25 billion .

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Yeah, just another angle on the DRDGOLD side, I guess from a gold bull or a gold bear perspective, it's obviously worth about ZAR 25 billion now, our 50%. Are we looking to dispose of the stake in time, and what would trigger a sale? Are we looking to buy, increase our position in DRDGOLD? Choose.

Speaker #8: Now 50%. Are we looking to dispose of the stake in time? And what would trigger a sale, or are we looking to increase our position in DRD Gold?

Speaker #8: Choose .

Speaker #3: We definitely not looking for a sale . As I mentioned , I think that's you know , we see a long term opportunity to to continue to grow with DRD and add a lot more value between our resources , their skills and the ability to grow together .

Neal Froneman: We're definitely not looking for a sale, as I mentioned. I think that, you know, we see a long-term opportunity to continue to grow with DRDGOLD and add a lot more value between our resources, their skills, and the ability to grow together. No, we're not looking to sell. I think in the long term, we would love to increase our stake in DRDGOLD, but again, clearly, now is not the time for that. I think we have different opportunities to invest capital now, but down the road, you know, if that opportunity is right and we can do it in a value accretive manner, certainly something we would consider.

Speaker #3: So no, we're not looking to sell. I think in the long term, we would love to increase our stake in DRD Gold.

Speaker #3: But again , clearly now is not the time for that . I think we have we have different opportunities to invest capital now , but down the road , you know , if that opportunity is right and we can do it in a value accretive manner , certainly something we would consider

Speaker #10: Thank you .

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thank you. And then I guess, yeah, another growth question, I guess, on, on copper for Sibanye. More copper exposure or not?

Speaker #8: And then I guess to, yeah, another growth question, I guess on copper—for more copper exposure or not.

Speaker #3: Yeah . I think as we as we shared in our , in our framework that we'll use to , to assess external growth opportunities , copper was definitely a metal that I think we would like exposure to , but I think the critical question is less around what we want exposure to or not the real question , when we look at any form of growth , is going to be is it value accretive ?

Neal Froneman: Yeah, I think as we shared in our framework that we'll use to assess external growth opportunities, copper was definitely a metal that I think we would like exposure to. But I think the critical question is less around what we want exposure to or not. The real question when we look at any form of growth is gonna be, is it value accretive? So yes, copper is a metal we would look at, but if we're going to do it, it would have to be done in a value accretive manner. And I dare say, where could we, you know, where do we see our strengths and opportunities? I think there are some niche opportunities where we could really create value from copper, and we will continue to look at those.

Speaker #3: So yes , copper is a metal . We would look at . But if we're going to do it , it would have to be done in a value accretive manner .

Speaker #3: And I dare say where could we you know , where do we see our strengths and opportunities ? I think there are some niche opportunities where where we could really create value from from copper .

Speaker #3: And we will continue to look at those , but that will be the underlying driver . Is is it value accretive ? And where do we think we can unlock value .

Neal Froneman: But that will be the underlying driver, is it value accretive, and where do we think we can unlock value?

Speaker #10: Thanks , Rich .

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thanks, Richard. And then a question on our chrome strategy, I guess, production and revenues. Does chrome now play a negligible role given the rise in PGM prices? Not, and I guess maybe just touch on the deal with Glencore.

Speaker #8: And then a question on our Chrome strategy, I guess production and revenues. Does Chrome now play a negligible role given the rise in PGM prices now, and I guess maybe just a touch on the deal with Glencore.

Speaker #10: Yeah .

Neal Froneman: Yep. Thanks very much. No, chrome's definitely not negligible to us. I think it's, you know, it's clearly a by-product in that regard, but it's a very important by-product for us, one we've given a lot of attention to over the last five years, and continue to look at going forward. So of course, in different commodity cycle, the relative impact of chrome is important. You know, I think we've seen over the years how chrome has gone from being about 2% of our revenue basket, almost as high as 15% during downtimes. At the moment, it's probably sitting around 10 to 12. So it's still a very material number. And of course, you know, even though that's relative to PGMs, that number in our earnings and bottom line is material.

Speaker #3: Thanks very much . No crimes . Definitely not negligible to us . I think it's you know , it's clearly a byproduct in that regard .

Speaker #3: But it's a very important byproduct for us . One , we've given a lot of attention to over the last five years . And and continue to look at going forward .

Speaker #3: So , so of course , in different commodity cycles , the relative impact of Chrome is is important . You know , I think we've seen over the years how Chrome has gone from being about 2% of our revenue basket , almost as high as 15 during downtimes .

Speaker #3: At the moment , it's probably sitting around 10 to 12 . So it's still a very material number . And of course , you know , even though that's relative to PMS , that number in our in our earnings and bottom line is material .

Speaker #3: So we will continue to focus on all value opportunities . And Chrome is certainly a very important one . I think critically , the , the the the transaction that we did with Glencore , you know what that what that really looked around , I guess was three big opportunities .

Neal Froneman: So we will continue to focus on all value opportunities, and chrome is certainly a very important one. I think critically, the transaction that we did with Glencore, you know, what that really looked around, I guess, was three big opportunities. The first one was at our Marikana operations. Historically, that chrome was sold to Glencore under, I guess, onerous terms for us. And that prohibited the potential expansion of some of those resources. And I think in recognition with Glencore, by opening up those resources, we can all benefit, and that was the first opportunity from that transaction. So that really unlocked some of the value from the new projects that we have announced... as part of our strategy.

Speaker #3: The first one was at our Marikana operations, historically, that chrome was sold to Glencore. And I guess onerous terms for us.

Speaker #3: And that that prohibited the potential expansion of some of those resources . And I think in recognition with , with Glencore , by opening up those resources , we we can all benefit .

Speaker #3: And that was the first opportunity from that transaction. So that really unlocked some of the value from the new projects that we have announced as part of our strategy.

Speaker #3: I think the second benefit was by looking at our Chrome operations across the board at Rustenburg and Marikana . We think there's some real synergies that can be derived there , and then we have substantial Chrome in in surface , in surface tailings , which again , I think with our combined skills , you know , we've got an opportunity to unlock that .

Neal Froneman: I think the second benefit was by looking at our chrome operations across the board at Rustenburg and Marikana. We think there's some real synergies that can be derived there. And then we have substantial chrome in surface tailings. Which, again, I think with our combined skills, you know, we've got an opportunity to unlock that. So, no, not at all. I think we will be a-- We are already, I think, well, I think if I'm not mistaken, the third biggest chrome producer, and I think with this going forward, we'll be a substantial chrome producer. So that's absolutely part of the strategy going forward.

Speaker #3: So, so no, not at all. I think we will be—we are already, I think, I think, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker #3: The third biggest chrome producer. And I think with this, going forward, we'll be a substantial chrome producer. So that's absolutely part of the strategy going forward.

Speaker #8: Thanks. And just the first estimate for gold from Bernstein.

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thanks. Just first estimate for gold from Bernstein?

Speaker #3: I think perhaps before then I need to say our first step is really to get an investment decision from our board. So that we would be going to in quarter two or towards the end of the first half.

Neal Froneman: I think perhaps before then, I need to say our first step is really to get an investment decision from our board, so that we would be going to in Q2 or towards the end of the first half. Let me just make that clear. We do still need to go through that process. I think first gold from Burnstone would come relatively quickly, but I think the thing with Burnstone is a long ramp-up period. While you access the ore body quite quickly and can get first gold quite quickly, it's about a 4 to 5-year period before you reach steady state of about 120 to 130,000 ounces. That's sort of what that profile looks like.

Speaker #3: So let me just make that clear . We do still need to go through that process . I think first , gold from Bernstein would come relatively quickly , but I think the thing with Bernstein is it is a long ramp up period .

Speaker #3: So, while you access the ore body quite quickly and can get first gold quite quickly, it's about a four- to five-year period before you reach steady state of about 120,000 to 130,000 ounces.

Speaker #3: So so that's sort of what that profile looks like . But again , we'll we'll unpack that in more detail at our , at our Capital Markets day , sharing those profiles with you .

Neal Froneman: But again, we'll unpack that in more detail at our Capital Markets day, sharing those profiles with you.

Speaker #8: Thanks, Richard. There are a couple here that I'll just answer myself. I think before we go to the call, are there any further payments due for this?

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thanks, Richard. There are a couple here that I'll just answer myself, I think, before we go to the call. Any further payments due for the Appian settlement? No, they're done. A question on surface sources and projected life for Rustenburg, PGM surface tailings. Again, that's been, you know, subject to a study, and we'll come to the market with all of the detail later this year when we have our capital markets day. So if you can hold on for that, we'll be able to give you all that sort of detail. And then a question from Steve Shepherd about development. Assay results are no longer included in this, the disclosure. One wonders how analysts are able to forecast future head grades and yields without this crucial information. Yeah, we'll speak about that offline, Steve. I have my opinions.

Speaker #8: Appian settlement ? No , they done . A question on surface sources and and projected life for Rustenburg , PJM surface tailings . Again .

Speaker #8: That's been, you know, subject to study, and will come to the market with all of the detail later this year when we have our Capital Market Days.

Speaker #8: So, if you can hold on for that, we'll be able to give you all that sort of detail. And then a question from Steve Shepherd about development assay results—those are no longer included in this.

Speaker #8: The disclosure—one wonders how analysts are able to forecast future head grades and yields without this crucial information. Yeah, we'll speak about that offline.

Speaker #8: Steve . I have my opinions . Can we go to the call , please

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Can we go to the call, please?

Speaker #12: Thank you. We have a question from Chris Nicholson of R&B Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Operator: Thank you. We have a question from Chris Nicholson of RMB Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Speaker #13: Hi . Morning , everyone . Thank you for the call . I've got a number of different questions . Believe it or not , after all , the ones you've been through on the webcast , I'll just limit it to a couple .

Chris Nicholson: Hi. Morning, everyone. Thank you for the call. I've got a number of different questions, believe it or not, after all the ones you've been on the webcast. I'll, I'll just limit it to a couple. Just the first one, just on Burnstone, are you in a position where you could guide on what's CapEx for that, for that project should be? Looks like your group CapEx this year is ZAR 17 billion, roughly. So I'm just kind of adding what we should, should add on top of that to get the 120,000 ounces. Otherwise, we can't really create a cube with those yet. Second question is just on costs. I think you've done a good... I think I understand what's happening in the gold and SA PGMs, but just in US PGMs, I see CapEx is up.

Speaker #13: Just the first one. Just on Bernstein. Are you in a position where you could guide on what CapEx for that, for that project should be?

Speaker #13: Looks like your group CapEx this year is $17 billion roughly. So I'm just kind of adding what we should add on top of that to get the 120,000 oz.

Speaker #13: Otherwise , we can't really create itchy with those yet . Second question is just on costs . I think you've done a good I think I understand what's happening in the gold and sap genes , but just in USP gems , I see CapEx is up , but even if you strip that out , it does look like the underlying unit cost is up .

Chris Nicholson: Even if you strip that out, it does look like the underlying unit cost is up. Is this just a case of a bit of catch up and poor development? What's driving that? Clearly, you know, you still wanna move down towards a $1,000 long-term target, but it's going up in the short term. Final one, I think you've glossed over it a bit, but just on Keliber, that extra EUR 100 million over and above the project CapEx this year, that just seems strange given the project's now finished. What actually is that? Is this a working capital build, or is there a working capital build in addition to that? If it is, can you actually capitalize all those ore stockpiles? Thank you.

Speaker #13: Is this just a case of a bit of catch up and forward development ? What's what's driving that ? Clearly , you know , you still want to move down towards $1,000 long term target .

Speaker #13: But it's going up in the short term . And then final one , I think you glossed over it a bit , but just on caliber , that extra €100 million over and above the project CapEx this year , that just seems strange given the projects now finished .

Speaker #13: What actually is that? Is this a working capital build, or is there a working capital build in addition to that? And if it is, can you actually capitalize all those or stockpiles?

Speaker #13: Thank you

Speaker #3: Chris , good morning and thanks very much . Good to hear from you . Let me I'll take the the Bernstein and the caliber question and then ask Charles if he can pick up on the , on the US costs in particular .

Neal Froneman: Chris, good morning, and thanks very much. Good to hear from you. Let me. I'll take the Burnstone and the Keliber question and then ask Charles if he can pick up on the US costs in particular. So, Chris, just on Burnstone, we haven't actually released the full capital number. So as soon as we've got that feasibility done, we'll do that. But what I can share with you is that the large project capital at Burnstone has already been spent. So when we turn that project off, you know, the underground infrastructure is developed, most of the surface infrastructure is developed, the plant's largely done. So the capital that will really be required on Burnstone is essentially opening up that ore body. So it's development capital, predominantly.

Speaker #3: So Chris , just on Bernstein , we haven't actually released a full capital number . So as soon as we've got that feasibility done , we'll do that .

Speaker #3: But what I can share with you is that the the large project capital at Bernstein has already been spent . So when we turn that that project off , you know , the underground infrastructures developed most of the surface infrastructure is developed .

Speaker #3: The plants largely done. So, the capital that will really be required on Bernstein is essentially opening up that all body.

Speaker #3: So, it's development capital predominantly. So what we're really looking at is the cost from going from start-up to steady state.

Neal Froneman: So what we're really looking at is the cost from going from start up to steady state. For those who are familiar, it's a Kimberly ore body, which means there's a lot of development required if you really wanna set that mine up for the long term, and that's our intention. So it's not a big slug of capital that will come through. It's essentially opening up and development capital. So if you were gonna think of a mine ramping up, its ORD style capital, that will be capitalized pre-production. So it's not big project CapEx, Chris, but we'll certainly look to give you the profiles on that-

Speaker #3: For those who are familiar , it's a Kimberley , ore body , which means there's a lot of development required . If you really want to set that mine up for the long term .

Speaker #3: And that's our intention. So it's not a big slug of capital that will come through. It's essentially opening up and development capital.

Speaker #3: So if you were going to think of a mine ramping up its Ord style capital , that will be capitalized pre-production . So it's not big project CapEx , Chris .

Speaker #3: But we'll certainly look to give you the profiles on that as those studies are completed and made public. I think on caliber.

Chris Nicholson: Okay.

Neal Froneman: - as those studies are completed and made public. I think on Keliber, so let me just unpack that, so we can be absolutely clear on those numbers. So we always said, well, the project CapEx for Keliber was EUR 763 million. That number has not changed. The last portion of that number, i.e., the EUR 90 million that I quoted, gets spent in 2026. And that gets spent during the first quarter of Q1 and a little bit into the second quarter. So the total project capital remains at 763. It hasn't changed, and the last 90 is being spent of Q1 and Q2 of this year. The balance to get us to the 180, so the balance, let's call it of EUR 90 million, that is effectively pre-production costs as we start up.

Speaker #3: So so let me just unpack that . And so we can be be absolutely clear on those numbers . So we always said , well , the project CapEx for caliber was €763 million .

Speaker #3: That number has not changed. The last portion of that number, i.e., the $90 million that I quoted, gets spent in 2026.

Speaker #3: So and that gets spent during the first quarter of first quarter and a little bit into the second quarter . So so the total project capital remains at 763 .

Speaker #3: It hasn't changed. And the last $90 million is being spent on Q1 and Q2 of this year. The balance will get us to the $180 million.

Speaker #3: So the balance, let's call it, of $90 million—that is effectively pre-production costs. As we start up, a large amount of that will likely be capitalized as pre-production.

Neal Froneman: A large amount of that will likely be capitalized as pre-production, but it's pre-production and sustaining capital type costs, Chris. The project capital remains as is. We're just spending the last $90 million now, but it is part of that original $763 million, and then the other $90 million, pre-production. I hope that's clarified it for you, Chris. Charles, do you want to pick up on the US?

Speaker #3: But as pre-production and sustaining capital type costs, Chris. So the project capital remains as is. We’re just spending the last $90 million now, but it is part of that original $763 million.

Speaker #3: And then the other 90 pre-production . I hope that I hope that clarified it for you , Chris Charles , do you want to pick up on the US ?

Speaker #13: It does. Yeah, it does.

Chris Nicholson: It does. Yeah, it does.

Speaker #3: Super. Thanks, Chris.

Neal Froneman: Super. Thanks, Chris.

Speaker #7: Yeah . Thanks , Rich . Us ? Yes ,

Charles Carter: Yeah, thanks, Rich. US, yes, Chris, on development, we do have quite an expanded development set of activities, particularly at East Boulder. We also have some incremental capital, so we're replacing the bridge at Stillwater East that runs between the east mine and the concentrator and mill. And, you know, that was capital we deferred in the last couple of years. We're now getting into it. And then we do have some mechanized bolters starting to come in, so there is that capital. And then we also have the initial spend on rock dump and tailings expansion at East Boulder as well. So all in, you know, you do have a sustaining cost number that is higher than you're probably expecting.

Speaker #5: Chris on development we do have quite an expanded development set of activities , particularly at East Boulder . We also have some incremental capital .

Speaker #5: So we’re replacing the bridge at Stillwater East that runs between the East Mine and the concentrator and mill. And you know that that was capital.

Speaker #5: We deferred in the last couple of years. We are now getting into it, and then we do have some mechanized bolters starting to come in.

Speaker #5: So there is that capital, and then we also have the initial spend on rock dump and tailings expansion at East Boulder as well.

Speaker #5: So all in you've got , you know , you do have a sustaining cost number that that is higher than you expecting . But I think the underlying run rates that you're getting from the operators is is what you can see going forward .

Charles Carter: But I think the underlying run rates that you're getting from the operators is what you can see going forward. And as I outlined in the presentation, you do have a mixed year of activity here. We've got steady state performance, and then we've got a big shift into the transformative work, where you really start to see the benefits on a cost basis and a productivity basis, probably at the tail end of the year and into next year. So those will start to be daylighted at Stillwater East late in the year, but they will only get into East Boulder next year. Thanks.

Speaker #5: And as I outlined in the presentation , you do have a mixed year of activity here . We've got steady state performance . And then we we've got a big shift into the transformative work where you really start to see the benefits on a cost basis .

Speaker #5: And on a productivity basis, probably at the tail end of the year and into next year. So those will start to be daylighted at Stillwater East late in the year, but they will only get into East Boulder next year.

Speaker #5: Thanks .

Speaker #8: Thank you. Is there another question on the line?

Neal Froneman: Thank you. Is there another question on the line?

Chris Nicholson: Sorry. Can I just ask, is $150 million a good stay-in-business CapEx level then for kind of 300,000 ounces at Stillwater? Is that what we should assume going forward?

Speaker #13: Sorry if I can , I just ask is €130 , $130 a good million dollars ? A good stay in business CapEx level ?

Speaker #13: Then for kind of 300,000 oz, it's Stillwater. Is that what we should assume going forward?

Neal Froneman: Chris, is that you talking on the US operations?

Speaker #3: Is that you talking on the US operations?

Speaker #13: I'm the US operations. Yeah.

Chris Nicholson: On the US operations, yeah.

Speaker #3: Yep . That's correct . Chris . Broadly in line with the guidance that we've put out . That's right . Yep

Neal Froneman: Yep, that's correct. Chris brought you in line with the guidance that we put out. That's right. Yep.

Speaker #8: Thank you . Okay . Operator . Oh , sorry , Chris . Another question . We like you . We'll give you another go

Charles Carter: Thank you.

Chris Nicholson: Okay.

Charles Carter: Uh-

Chris Nicholson: Thank you.

Charles Carter: Operator, is there another... Oh, sorry, Chris, another question. We like you. We'll give you another go.

Speaker #13: No, no, I'm good. Thank you very much.

Chris Nicholson: No, no, I'm good.

Charles Carter: Operator?

Chris Nicholson: Thank you very much.

Speaker #8: Operator, is there another question?

Neal Froneman: Operator, is there another question?

Speaker #12: Yes, we have a question from Adrian Hammond of SBG Securities. Please go ahead.

Operator: Yes, we have a question from Adrian Hammond of SBG Securities. Please go ahead.

Speaker #14: Good morning . Richard , just a question on your recycling guidance . If I know you've now consolidated the ops , but if on Mark calculations , then Columbus volumes have materially decreased , could you just unpick that for me ?

Adrian Hammond: Good morning, howzit Richard? Just a question on your recycling guidance. If I know you've now consolidated the ops, but if on my calculations, then Columbus volumes of material decrease. Could you just unpick that for me? And then for another one, on Kloof, for Charles, perhaps just the closure liabilities, do they cover the pumping costs that you foresee there? I'm just thinking about the aquifers that Kloof sits on. I know you incur about ZAR 1 billion a year for Cooke pumping. Does the liability you've mentioned cover the pumping that's envisaged for Kloof? Thanks.

Speaker #14: And then for another one on Kluth for Scholl , perhaps just the closure liabilities , do they cover the pumping costs that you foresee ?

Speaker #14: There? I'm just thinking about the aquifers that the cliff sits on, and are you incurring about a billion rand a year for Kook pumping?

Speaker #14: Does the liability you've . Mentioned cover the the the pumping ? That's envisaged for Cliff ? Thanks

Speaker #3: Adrian good good morning . Good to hear from you . Listen , I'm going to ask Grant . I think he is on the line just to pick up your your question on the recycling breakdown .

Neal Froneman: Adrian, good morning. Good to hear from you. Listen, I'm going to ask Grant, I think he is on the line, just to pick up your question on the recycling breakdown. I don't believe there's been a significant drop-off at the Columbus facility, but let me ask Grant just to unpack that. Just in terms of Kloof, I'll ask Charles if he does want to come in with any numbers, but just high level, Adrian, I think where Kloof is very different to the Cooke operations. So that, that's the billion you've just quoted now, which is the pumping across Cooke one to four. That's very interconnected with other operations. So on the northern side, we have the Harmony shaft, and on the southern side, we obviously got South Deep.

Speaker #3: I don't believe there's been a significant drop off at the Columbus facility , but let me ask Grant just to unpack that . Just in terms of Cliff , I'll ask Charles if he does want to come in with any numbers , but just high level .

Speaker #3: Adrian, I think where Cliff is very different to the Cooke operations. So that's the billion you've just quoted now, which is the pumping across Cooke 1 to 4.

Speaker #3: That's very interconnected with other operations . So on the northern side we have the Harmony shafts and on the on the southern side we've obviously got south deep , you know , and that is why a lot of that pumping has had to remain .

Neal Froneman: And that is why a lot of that pumping has had to remain, you know, while we develop stable systems to be able to ensure it's sealed from the surrounding operations as part of a connected basin. Both Kloof and Beatrix are standalone operations in that regard. When Kloof ultimately comes to closure, it's not interconnected to any other operating mines. So essentially, that can be flooded, you know, in line with our environmental permits. The pumping issues and liabilities that we have previously experienced at the Cooke shaft are not applicable to either Kloof or Beatrix. You know, it would, in time, become applicable to Driefontein.

Speaker #3: You know, while we developed stable systems to be able to ensure they are sealed from the surrounding operations as part of a connected basin, both Cliff and Beatrix are standalone operations in that regard.

Speaker #3: So so when Cliff ultimately comes to closure , it's not interconnected to any other operating mines . So essentially that can be that can be flooded , you know , in line with our with our environmental permits .

Speaker #3: So, the pumping issues and liabilities that we have previously experienced at the Cooke shafts are not applicable to either Cliff or Beatrix.

Speaker #3: You know, it would in time become applicable to Driefontein. And I think that's where there's obviously an important conversation around extending life of mines around Driefontein and what that future liability may look like.

Neal Froneman: You know, and I think that's where there's obviously an important conversation around extending life of mines around Driefontein, and what that future liability may look like. So that is one where that's got to be looked at down the line in the future. Driefontein is still about 10 years ahead of it. But for Kloof and Beatrix, that's not a problem on the liability. Charles, I don't know if you want to just add any numbers to that, and then we can... I don't, I don't think so.

Speaker #3: So that is one where that's got to be looked at down the line in the future . Still got ten years ahead of it , but for Chlorphen and Beatrix , that that's not a problem .

Speaker #3: On the liability... I don't know if you want to just add any numbers to that, and then we can, I don't know.

Speaker #7: So rich , I mean , yeah , we would not provide for for pumping or any liabilities because as you've explained , you know , it's we have the ability to flood and it's not similar to the Cooke scenario .

Charl Keyter: No, Rich, I mean, yeah, we would not provide for, for pumping, or any liabilities, because as you've explained, you know, it's, we have the ability to flood, and it's not similar to the Cooke, scenario. So, no, well covered. Thank you.

Speaker #7: So, no. Well covered. Thank you.

Speaker #3: Perfect . Thank you . And then Grant , if you are online , do you just want to pick up on the on the recycling question of Adrian's .

Neal Froneman: Perfect. Thank you. And then, Grant, if you are online, do you just want to pick up on the recycling question of Adrian's?

Speaker #7: Yeah , sure .

Grant Stuart: Yeah, sure, Richard, I'm online. Adrian, good to chat. Yeah, there hasn't actually been much of a decline on the ounces profile delivered by Columbus, if you look on 2024 and 2025, it was a 2%, I think, climb. I think there is significant shifts, though, in the market, so there is going to be a lot of different industry play coming out and strategic moves and shifts that will have to take place. And I guess we'll unpack that for you during the April 20 discussion, where we outline some of our broader recycling strategy. Thanks.

Speaker #15: Richard M on Adrian . Good to chat . Yeah . There hasn't actually been a much of a decline on the ounces profile delivered by Columbus .

Speaker #15: If you look on 24 and 25 , it was a 2% . I think , decline . I think there is significant shift , though in the market .

Speaker #15: So, there is going to be a lot of different industry play coming out, and sort of strategic moves and shifts that will have to take place.

Speaker #15: And I guess we'll unpack that for you during the April 20th discussion, where we are outlining some of our broader recycling strategy.

Speaker #15: Thanks

Speaker #8: Thank you, operator. Are there any calls on the line still? Thanks. Okay.

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thank you. Operator, are there any calls on the line still? Thanks.

Operator: We have no one else on the line.

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Okay, well,

Speaker #12: Well thank you .

Operator: Thank you.

Speaker #8: Thank you seem to have a thanks a lot . I think that's it . Really . Only one more question . There's always one from Arnold from about share buybacks .

[Analyst] (Company Unknown): Thank you. Just have a delay. Thanks a lot. I think, that's it, really. Only one more question. There's always one from Arnold van Graan about share buybacks next. Richard, what do you feel about that?

Speaker #8: Next, Richard, what do you feel about that?

Speaker #3: Arnold . That's a great way to end this . And thank you very much . Good to hear from you this morning . And I think as we as we shared in our strategy day , you know , the capital allocation model , we we're looking at at the moment is very focused on the three pillars .

Neal Froneman: Arnold, that's a great way to end this, and thank you very much. Good to hear from you this morning. No, listen, I think as we shared in our strategy day, you know, the capital allocation model we're looking at at the moment is very focused on the three pillars. So we've got our dividend policy that largely talks to about 1/3 of distributable free cash flow going to shareholders, 1/3 going to paying down our gross debt. Which I dare say should reflect in our overall share price as we get that down, and therefore, hopefully, we would see shareholders benefiting from that capital uplift, and then towards growth.

Speaker #3: So we've got our dividend policy that that largely talks to about a third of distributable free cash flow going to shareholders . A third going to to paying down our gross debt , which I dare should reflect in our overall share price as we get that down and therefore hopefully we would see shareholders benefiting from that capital uplift and then towards towards growth .

Neal Froneman: You know, I think until such time as we've, we've got our debt in line, you know, for now, we will be sticking to that dividend policy. And we wouldn't be considering any extra. You know, of course, if commodity prices stay where they are, and we've achieved those objectives on the, on the gross debt side, you know, then, then we'd have to look at where, where that policy or the capital allocation strategy lies. But for now, we'll be sticking to our dividend policy, Arnold. Thank you very much. I guess, is that the last question then? If that's the last question, then, perhaps just from my side, thank you very much, everybody, for, for joining us again. As mentioned, this is just one in a series of engagements we're looking to have with the market.

Speaker #3: You know , I think until such time as we've we've got our debt in line , you know , for now we will be sticking to that dividend policy and we wouldn't be considering any extra .

Speaker #3: You know , of course , if commodity prices stay where they are and we've achieved those objectives on the on the gross debt side , you know , then then we'd have to look at where where that policy or the capital allocation strategy lies .

Speaker #3: But for now , we'll be sticking to our dividend policy . Arnold , thank you very much , I guess . Is that the last question then , if that's the last question , then perhaps just from my side .

Speaker #3: Thank you very much , everybody . For for joining us again , as mentioned , this is just a one in a series of engagements we're looking to have with the market .

Speaker #3: I think we can tell that there are still a lot of questions and a lot of details. We need to share around some of the projects in particular that we've got.

Neal Froneman: I think we can tell that there are still a lot of questions and a lot of details we need to share around some of the projects, in particular, that we've got. And we certainly look forward to unpacking that with you during April and June of this year. So thank you very much for joining us again. Please have a good and a safe day. Thank you.

Speaker #3: And we certainly look forward to unpacking that with you during April and June of this year. So, thank you very much for joining us again.