Q4 2025 Auna SAA Earnings Call
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Speaker #1: Now , I would like to turn the call over to Ana Maria to Ana Maria mora , Head of Investor Relations . Ma'am , you may now go ahead , please
Speaker #2: Thank you . Operator . Hello , everyone , and welcome to our conference call to review our fourth quarter and full year results .
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, operator. Hello, everyone, and welcome to Auna's Conference Call to Review Our Q4 and Full Year Results. Please note that there is a webcast presentation to accompany the discussion during this call. If you need a copy of the presentation, please go to our investor relations website or contact Auna's investor relations team. Please note that when we discuss variances, we will be doing so on a year-over-year basis and in FX neutral or local currency terms with regard to Mexico and Colombia, unless we note otherwise. Let's move to slide two. In addition to reporting unaudited financial results in accordance with International Financial Reporting Standards, we will discuss certain non-IFRS financial measures and operating metrics, including foreign exchange neutral calculations. Investors should carefully read the definitions of these measures and metrics included in our earnings press release of yesterday to ensure that they understand them.
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, operator. Hello, everyone, and welcome to Auna's Conference Call to Review Our Q4 and Full Year Results. Please note that there is a webcast presentation to accompany the discussion during this call. If you need a copy of the presentation, please go to our investor relations website or contact Auna's investor relations team. Please note that when we discuss variances, we will be doing so on a year-over-year basis and in FX neutral or local currency terms with regard to Mexico and Colombia, unless we note otherwise. Let's move to slide two. In addition to reporting unaudited financial results in accordance with International Financial Reporting Standards, we will discuss certain non-IFRS financial measures and operating metrics, including foreign exchange neutral calculations. Investors should carefully read the definitions of these measures and metrics included in our earnings press release of yesterday to ensure that they understand them.
Speaker #2: Please note that there is a webcast presentation to accompany the discussion during this call. If you need a copy of the presentation, please go to our Investor Relations website or contact AUNA S.A.
Speaker #2: . Investor Relations team . Please note that when we discuss variances , we will be doing so on a year over year basis and in neutral or local currency terms .
Speaker #2: With regard to Mexico and Colombia , unless we note otherwise Let's move to slide two . In addition to reporting an audited financial results in accordance with international Financial Reporting Standards , we will discuss certain non IFRS financial measures and operating metrics , including foreign exchange , neutral calculations Investors should carefully read the definitions of these measures and metrics included in our earnings press release of yesterday , to ensure that they understand them .
Speaker #2: Non-financial measures and operating metrics should not be considered in isolation as a substitute for, or superior to, IFRS financial measures and are provided as supplemental information only. Before we begin our remarks, please also note that certain statements made during the course of today's discussion may constitute forward-looking statements.
Ana Maria Mora: Non-IFRS financial measures and operating metrics should not be considered in isolation as a substitute for or superior to IFRS financial measures and are provided as supplemental information only. Before we begin our remarks, please also note that certain statements made during the course of today's discussion may constitute forward-looking statements, which are based on management's current expectations and beliefs and which are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to materially differ, including factors that may be beyond the company's control.
Ana Maria Mora: Non-IFRS financial measures and operating metrics should not be considered in isolation as a substitute for or superior to IFRS financial measures and are provided as supplemental information only. Before we begin our remarks, please also note that certain statements made during the course of today's discussion may constitute forward-looking statements, which are based on management's current expectations and beliefs and which are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to materially differ, including factors that may be beyond the company's control.
Speaker #2: which are based on management's current expectations and beliefs, and which are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to materially differ, including factors that may be beyond the company's control.
Speaker #2: This includes , but are not limited to , our target leverage ratio . The expected resolution of the issues with physicians , suppliers and information systems in Mexico , the results of the key initiatives were implementing in Mexico , Colombia and Peru .
Ana Maria Mora: This includes, but are not limited to, our target leverage ratio, the expected resolution of the issues with physicians, suppliers, and information systems in Mexico, the results of the key initiatives we're implementing in Mexico, Colombia, and Peru, the expected capacity and market of Torre Trecca once built, the execution of our strategic plan, including the recovery of our growth levels and the rollout of the AunaWay in Mexico, our plant investments in Mexico, expected revenue growth and EBITDA guidance, and the creation of further growth and sustainable value for all stakeholders. For a description of these risks, please refer to our Form 20-F filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and our earnings press release. Slide 3, please.
Ana Maria Mora: This includes, but are not limited to, our target leverage ratio, the expected resolution of the issues with physicians, suppliers, and information systems in Mexico, the results of the key initiatives we're implementing in Mexico, Colombia, and Peru, the expected capacity and market of Torre Trecca once built, the execution of our strategic plan, including the recovery of our growth levels and the rollout of the AunaWay in Mexico, our plant investments in Mexico, expected revenue growth and EBITDA guidance, and the creation of further growth and sustainable value for all stakeholders. For a description of these risks, please refer to our Form 20-F filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and our earnings press release. Slide 3, please.
Speaker #2: The expected capacity and market once built, the execution of our strategic plan, including the recovery of our growth levels, and the rollout of the Wedding Mexico or planned investments in Mexico.
Speaker #2: Expected revenue growth and EBITDA guidance and the creation of further growth, sustainable value for all stakeholders. For a description of these risks, please refer to our Form 20-F filing with the US Securities and Exchange Commission and our earnings press release.
Speaker #2: Slide three . Please . On today's call , we have our Executive Chairman and President , Giselle Ramey , our chief financial officer and Executive Vice President , and Lorenzo Massat , our executive vice president of strategy and equity capital markets .
Ana Maria Mora: On today's call, we have Jesús Zamora, our Executive Chairman and President, Gisele Remy, our Chief Financial Officer and Executive Vice President, and Lorenzo Massart, our Executive Vice President of Strategy and Equity Capital Markets. They will discuss Auna's consolidated and segment financial and operating results for the Q4 and full year and will also provide updates on our various strategic growth initiatives. After that, we will open the call for your questions. Jesús, please go ahead.
Ana Maria Mora: On today's call, we have Jesús Zamora, our Executive Chairman and President, Gisele Remy, our Chief Financial Officer and Executive Vice President, and Lorenzo Massart, our Executive Vice President of Strategy and Equity Capital Markets. They will discuss Auna's consolidated and segment financial and operating results for the Q4 and full year and will also provide updates on our various strategic growth initiatives. After that, we will open the call for your questions. Jesús, please go ahead.
Speaker #2: They will discuss our consolidated and segment financial and operating results for the fourth quarter and full year, and will also provide updates on our various strategic growth initiatives. After that, we will open the call for your questions. Suzanne, please go ahead.
Speaker #3: Thanks . Annie . Good morning , everyone , and thank you for Review our 2025 results . During the fourth quarter , we stabilized our Mexico operations , which are now on a clear path to sustained top line and EBITDA growth in 2026 .
Jesús Zamora: Thanks, Annie. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us to review our 2025 results. During Q4, we stabilized our Mexico operations, which are now on a clear path to sustained top-line and EBITDA growth in 2026. Under the leadership of our new management team in Mexico, we have focused on expanding our reach into the larger segments of privately insured families and furthering our alignment with certain physician groups. These initiatives were implemented late in the year and therefore did not offset the volume losses experienced earlier in 2025, resulting in disappointing results for the year. Evidence of progress in Mexico includes Auna being again included in the policies that serve the larger segments of the privately insured markets.
Jesús Zamora: Thanks, Annie. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us to review our 2025 results. During Q4, we stabilized our Mexico operations, which are now on a clear path to sustained top-line and EBITDA growth in 2026. Under the leadership of our new management team in Mexico, we have focused on expanding our reach into the larger segments of privately insured families and furthering our alignment with certain physician groups. These initiatives were implemented late in the year and therefore did not offset the volume losses experienced earlier in 2025, resulting in disappointing results for the year. Evidence of progress in Mexico includes Auna being again included in the policies that serve the larger segments of the privately insured markets.
Speaker #3: Under the leadership of our new management team in Mexico , we have focused on expanding our reach into the larger segments of privately insured families and furthering our alignment with certain physician groups These initiatives were implemented late in the year and therefore did not offset volume losses experienced earlier in 2025 , resulting in results for the year .
Speaker #3: Evidence of progress in Mexico includes being again included in the policies that serve the larger segments of the privately insured markets Additional evidence is the award for the extension of a health care plan to cover , on an exclusive basis for most of the service's East Leon .
Jesús Zamora: Additional evidence is the award for the extension of a healthcare plan to cover on an exclusive basis for most of the services, ISSSTE León, the Social Security institution covering all state employees of the state of Nuevo León. During the quarter, Peru continued to outperform and underpin Auna's overall performance, driven primarily by a strong pricing mix in healthcare services and a record low medical loss ratio. Peru has operational scale and significant runway for growth. As recently announced, we signed an agreement with EsSalud under a public-private partnership framework to refurbish and operate a 600,000 sq ft high complexity outpatient facility in Lima, expanding access to care for approximately 3 million patients currently served by EsSalud. Colombia's results came in line with our objectives to grow, yet improve cash flow. With a higher mix of risk-sharing contracts and reduced reliance on intervened payers. These are promising results.
Jesús Zamora: Additional evidence is the award for the extension of a healthcare plan to cover on an exclusive basis for most of the services, ISSSTE León, the Social Security institution covering all state employees of the state of Nuevo León. During the quarter, Peru continued to outperform and underpin Auna's overall performance, driven primarily by a strong pricing mix in healthcare services and a record low medical loss ratio. Peru has operational scale and significant runway for growth. As recently announced, we signed an agreement with EsSalud under a public-private partnership framework to refurbish and operate a 600,000 sq ft high complexity outpatient facility in Lima, expanding access to care for approximately 3 million patients currently served by EsSalud. Colombia's results came in line with our objectives to grow, yet improve cash flow. With a higher mix of risk-sharing contracts and reduced reliance on intervened payers. These are promising results.
Speaker #3: The Social Security institution, covering all state employees of the state of Nuevo Leon during the quarter, Peru continued to outperform and underpin our owner's overall performance, driven primarily by a strong pricing mix in health care services and a record low medical loss ratio.
Speaker #3: Peru has operational scale and significant runway for growth as recently announced . We signed an agreement with Salud under a public private partnership framework to refurbish and operate a 600,000 square foot high complexity outpatient facility in Lima , expanding access to care for approximately 3 million patients .
Speaker #3: Currently serve by Salud . Colombia's results came in line with our objectives to grow , it improved cash flow with a higher mix of risk sharing contracts and reduced reliance on intervened payers .
Speaker #3: These are promising results. Consolidated adjusted net income reached $136 million in the quarter, compared to $36 million in the same quarter last year.
Jesús Zamora: Consolidated adjusted net income reached PEN 136 million in the quarter, compared with PEN 36 million in the same quarter last year. For the full year, adjusted net income more than tripled to PEN 336 million. We also strengthened Auna's capital structure during the quarter through the $825 million debt refinancing, which improved our maturity profile and lowered our interest expense. Despite the premiums and costs associated with the refinancing, we maintained our leverage ratio at 3.6x, supported by strong free cash flow generation that increased our cash position by 42%. Let's move to our consolidated results on slide five. Peru's strong performance and Colombia's resilience helped offset last year's setbacks in Mexico, which is now well-positioned for a strong recovery this year.
Jesús Zamora: Consolidated adjusted net income reached PEN 136 million in the quarter, compared with PEN 36 million in the same quarter last year. For the full year, adjusted net income more than tripled to PEN 336 million. We also strengthened Auna's capital structure during the quarter through the $825 million debt refinancing, which improved our maturity profile and lowered our interest expense. Despite the premiums and costs associated with the refinancing, we maintained our leverage ratio at 3.6x, supported by strong free cash flow generation that increased our cash position by 42%. Let's move to our consolidated results on slide five. Peru's strong performance and Colombia's resilience helped offset last year's setbacks in Mexico, which is now well-positioned for a strong recovery this year.
Speaker #3: For the full year , adjusted net income more than tripled to $336 million . We also strengthened our capital structure during the quarter through the $825 million debt refinancing , which improved our maturity profile and lowered our interest expense .
Speaker #3: Despite the premiums and costs associated with the refinancing , we maintained our leverage ratio at 3.6 times , supported by strong free cash flow generation that increased our cash position by 42% .
Speaker #3: Let's move to our consolidated results on slide five. Peru's strong performance and Colombia's resilience helped offset last year's setbacks in Mexico, which is now well positioned for a strong recovery this year. Consolidated revenue grew 6%.
Jesús Zamora: Consolidated revenue grew 6% FX neutral in the quarter, while adjusted EBITDA declined 14% FX neutral, mainly reflecting Mexico's underperformance as well as an unfavorable year-over-year comparison in Colombia related to extraordinary items recorded in the prior year quarter. For the full year, revenue grew 4%, while EBITDA declined 3%. As shown in the bottom half of the slide, capacity utilization in healthcare services decreased 2.3 percentage points to 64%, reflecting lower utilization, particularly in Colombia, as part of our focus to reduce reliance on intervened payers. At Oncosalud in Peru, plan memberships increased 4.4%, while the oncology MLR continued to improve, reaching a record low of 48.5%. Let's move to our segment results, beginning with Mexico on slide 7.
Jesús Zamora: Consolidated revenue grew 6% FX neutral in the quarter, while adjusted EBITDA declined 14% FX neutral, mainly reflecting Mexico's underperformance as well as an unfavorable year-over-year comparison in Colombia related to extraordinary items recorded in the prior year quarter. For the full year, revenue grew 4%, while EBITDA declined 3%. As shown in the bottom half of the slide, capacity utilization in healthcare services decreased 2.3 percentage points to 64%, reflecting lower utilization, particularly in Colombia, as part of our focus to reduce reliance on intervened payers. At Oncosalud in Peru, plan memberships increased 4.4%, while the oncology MLR continued to improve, reaching a record low of 48.5%. Let's move to our segment results, beginning with Mexico on slide 7.
Speaker #3: FX neutral in the quarter . While adjusted EBITDA declined 14% . FX neutral mainly reflecting Mexico's underperformance as well as an unfavorable year over year comparison in Colombia related to extraordinary items recorded in the prior year quarter .
Speaker #3: For the full year , revenue grew 4% , while EBITDA declined 3% . As shown in the bottom half of the slide , capacity utilization , health care services decreased 2.3 percentage points to 64% , reflecting lower utilization , particularly in Colombia .
Speaker #3: As part of our focus to reduce reliance on intervened payers at Uncle Salud in Peru planned memberships increased 4.4% , while the oncology MLR continued to improve , reaching a record low of 48.5% .
Speaker #3: Let's move to our segment results , beginning with Mexico on slide seven . As we further integrated option oncology and partly as a result of launching our new onco centered at Doctors Hospital revenues grew again in the fourth quarter , increasing 35% compared with the previous quarter .
Jesús Zamora: As we further integrated Opción Oncología, and partly as a result of launching our new Onco Center at Doctors Hospital Auna, oncology revenues grew again in Q4, increasing 35% compared with the previous quarter. Notably, out-of-pocket revenues also increased, reaching 12% of total revenues in Mexico in December. This growth reflects the early stages of Mexico's recovery and helped offset some of the legacy volume and margin pressures related to physician and supplier relationships that we are gradually putting behind us. We expect our oncology growth initiatives to continue gaining traction in 2026 as we further integrate the Onco Center into our healthcare network in Mexico. Market conditions remain soft in Mexico, affecting the number of surgeries and emergency visits and contributing to a 3% decline in Q4 revenues in local currency.
Jesús Zamora: As we further integrated Opción Oncología, and partly as a result of launching our new Onco Center at Doctors Hospital Auna, oncology revenues grew again in Q4, increasing 35% compared with the previous quarter. Notably, out-of-pocket revenues also increased, reaching 12% of total revenues in Mexico in December. This growth reflects the early stages of Mexico's recovery and helped offset some of the legacy volume and margin pressures related to physician and supplier relationships that we are gradually putting behind us. We expect our oncology growth initiatives to continue gaining traction in 2026 as we further integrate the Onco Center into our healthcare network in Mexico. Market conditions remain soft in Mexico, affecting the number of surgeries and emergency visits and contributing to a 3% decline in Q4 revenues in local currency.
Speaker #3: Notably , out of pocket revenues also increased , reaching 12% of total revenues in Mexico in December . This growth reflects the early stages of Mexico's recovery and helped offset some of the legacy volume and margin pressures related to physician and supply relationships that we are gradually putting behind us .
Speaker #3: We expect our oncology growth initiatives to continue gaining traction in 2026 as we further integrate the Onco center into our healthcare network in Mexico .
Speaker #3: Market conditions remain soft in Mexico, affecting the number of surgeries and emergency visits, and contributing to a 3% decline in fourth-quarter revenues in local currency.
Speaker #3: It is important to note, however, that revenues were unchanged from the previous quarter, reflecting the stabilization of our operations as shown on the right side of the slide.
Jesús Zamora: It is important to note, however, the revenues were unchanged from the previous quarter, reflecting the stabilization of our operations. As shown on the right side of this slide, Q4 adjusted EBITDA declined 36% and was down 18% for the full year. Lower revenues throughout the year and lower profitability in the last quarter resulted from higher costs and lower margins under our previous healthcare plan with ISSSTE León. On slide 8, we provide an update on the various initiatives underway to get back on track toward achieving these goals. We have strengthened our leadership team in Mexico with the commercial, operational, and clinical experience and skill set required to lead Mexico. With a reinforced team, we have implemented very successful actions that give us confidence we have achieved a turnaround of our operations in Mexico.
Jesús Zamora: It is important to note, however, the revenues were unchanged from the previous quarter, reflecting the stabilization of our operations. As shown on the right side of this slide, Q4 adjusted EBITDA declined 36% and was down 18% for the full year. Lower revenues throughout the year and lower profitability in the last quarter resulted from higher costs and lower margins under our previous healthcare plan with ISSSTE León. On slide 8, we provide an update on the various initiatives underway to get back on track toward achieving these goals. We have strengthened our leadership team in Mexico with the commercial, operational, and clinical experience and skill set required to lead Mexico. With a reinforced team, we have implemented very successful actions that give us confidence we have achieved a turnaround of our operations in Mexico.
Speaker #3: Fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA 36% and was down 18% for the full year . Lower revenues throughout the year and lower profitability in the last quarter resulted from higher costs and lower margins .
Speaker #3: Under our previous health care plan, with Leon on slide eight, we provide an update on the various initiatives underway to get back on track toward achieving these goals.
Speaker #3: We have strengthened our leadership team in Mexico with a commercial , operational and clinical experience and skill set required to lead Mexico and with a reinforced team , we have implemented very successful actions that give us confidence .
Speaker #3: We have achieved a turnaround of our operations in Mexico . The team includes a new chief medical officer who is helping deepen physician engagement , increased productivity and improve medical outcomes across our facilities .
Jesús Zamora: The team includes a new chief medical officer who is helping deepen physician engagement, increase productivity, and improve medical outcomes across our facilities. These actions position us well to resume growth in 2026. The Q4 results evidence the turnaround of our operations in Mexico. I highlight the inclusion of our hospital network in the preferred provider tiers, policies covering the larger segments of the privately insured population, and the rollout of various packaged services to better penetrate several market segments, particularly the out-of-pocket segment. Through targeted pricing initiatives and pre-negotiated physician rates, this high margin segment reached 12% of revenues in Mexico in December, up from 8% in the Q3. Corporates and government agencies represent another important opportunity.
Jesús Zamora: The team includes a new chief medical officer who is helping deepen physician engagement, increase productivity, and improve medical outcomes across our facilities. These actions position us well to resume growth in 2026. The Q4 results evidence the turnaround of our operations in Mexico. I highlight the inclusion of our hospital network in the preferred provider tiers, policies covering the larger segments of the privately insured population, and the rollout of various packaged services to better penetrate several market segments, particularly the out-of-pocket segment. Through targeted pricing initiatives and pre-negotiated physician rates, this high margin segment reached 12% of revenues in Mexico in December, up from 8% in the Q3. Corporates and government agencies represent another important opportunity.
Speaker #3: These actions position us well to resume growth in 2026 . The fourth quarter results evidenced the turnaround of our operations in Mexico . I highlight the inclusion of our hospital network in the preferred provider tiers policies covering the larger segments of the privately insured population and the rollout of various package services to better penetrate several market segments , particularly the out-of-pocket segment .
Speaker #3: Through targeted pricing initiatives and pre-negotiated physician rates, this high-margin segment reached 12% of revenues in Mexico in December, up from 8% in the third quarter.
Speaker #3: Corporates and government agencies represent another important opportunity. The most immediate impact of this strategy was the extension of the healthcare plan to cover.
Jesús Zamora: The most immediate impact of this strategy was the extension of the healthcare plan to cover, on an exclusive basis for most services, ISSSTE León, the Social Security institution covering all state employees of the state of Nuevo León, which resulted in a double-digit price increase for the year. We are currently in discussions with other governmental agencies. As mentioned earlier, we moved into the preferred tier with two major insurers, which should produce higher patient volumes going forward. We also signed an agreement with a leading insurer to direct policyholders to our own oncology services through targeted deductible structures and financial incentives. This will help further scale our oncology franchise, including the Onco Center in Monterrey, where we plan to double the medical staff this year. Physician engagement and productivity continue to grow.
Jesús Zamora: The most immediate impact of this strategy was the extension of the healthcare plan to cover, on an exclusive basis for most services, ISSSTE León, the Social Security institution covering all state employees of the state of Nuevo León, which resulted in a double-digit price increase for the year. We are currently in discussions with other governmental agencies. As mentioned earlier, we moved into the preferred tier with two major insurers, which should produce higher patient volumes going forward. We also signed an agreement with a leading insurer to direct policyholders to our own oncology services through targeted deductible structures and financial incentives. This will help further scale our oncology franchise, including the Onco Center in Monterrey, where we plan to double the medical staff this year. Physician engagement and productivity continue to grow.
Speaker #3: On an exclusive basis . For most services , este Leon , the social security institution covering all state employees of the state of Nuevo Leon , which resulted in a double digit price increase for the year .
Speaker #3: We are currently in discussions with other governmental agencies . As mentioned earlier , we moved into the preferred tier with two major insurers , which should produce higher patient volumes going forward .
Speaker #3: We also signed an agreement with a leading insurer to direct policyholders to own oncology services through targeted deductible structures and financial incentives . This will help further scale our oncology franchise , including the ankle Center in Monterrey , where we plan to double the medical staff this year .
Speaker #3: The decision, engagement, and productivity continue to grow, and during the quarter, we confirmed volume and margin improvements from approximately 250 physicians who account for about 80% of revenues in the hospital network.
Jesús Zamora: During the quarter, we confirmed volume and margin improvement from approximately 250 physicians who account for about 80% of revenues in the hospital network. These alignment incentives support higher productivity, improved clinical outcomes, and stronger operating performance. Let's turn to slide 9 to discuss Peru's performance. Operating at scale, Peru continues to outperform in both revenue and EBITDA. Revenue increased 11% during the quarter, driven by growth in high complexity services that lifted the average ticket, as well as higher volume supported by investments in new medical equipment, increased bed capacity, and targeted marketing initiatives. On the insurance side, Oncosalud's revenues grew 10%, supported by a 4% increase in plan memberships and annual price adjustments. Oncology's MLR also declined 4.4 percentage points to 48.5%, reflecting a sixth consecutive quarterly decrease in the MLR.
Jesús Zamora: During the quarter, we confirmed volume and margin improvement from approximately 250 physicians who account for about 80% of revenues in the hospital network. These alignment incentives support higher productivity, improved clinical outcomes, and stronger operating performance. Let's turn to slide 9 to discuss Peru's performance. Operating at scale, Peru continues to outperform in both revenue and EBITDA. Revenue increased 11% during the quarter, driven by growth in high complexity services that lifted the average ticket, as well as higher volume supported by investments in new medical equipment, increased bed capacity, and targeted marketing initiatives. On the insurance side, Oncosalud's revenues grew 10%, supported by a 4% increase in plan memberships and annual price adjustments. Oncology's MLR also declined 4.4 percentage points to 48.5%, reflecting a sixth consecutive quarterly decrease in the MLR.
Speaker #3: These alignment incentives support higher productivity, improved clinical outcomes, and stronger operating performance. Let's turn to slide nine to discuss Peru's performance.
Speaker #3: Operating at scale . Peru continues to outperform in both revenue and EBITDA revenue . Increased 11% during the quarter , driven by growth and high complexity services that lifted the average ticket , as well as higher volumes supported by investments in new medical equipment , increased bed capacity and targeted marketing initiatives on the insurance side , on revenues grew 10% , supported by a 4% increase in planned memberships and annual price adjustments .
Speaker #3: Oncology's MLR also declined 4.4 percentage points to 48.5% , reflecting a sixth consecutive quarterly decrease in the MLR . This improvement was driven by a combination of higher tickets and continued moderation in pharmaceutical costs .
Jesús Zamora: This improvement was driven by a combination of higher tickets and continued moderation in pharmaceutical costs. Total adjusted EBITDA increased 14% in the quarter and 14% for the full year. As we further penetrate Peru's healthcare market and expand relationships, we expect this segment of our regional platform to remain an important driver of growth going forward. Now let's move to Colombia on slide 10. During the quarter, we constrained our services to government-intervened payers and thus effectively managed the risks posed by them in our accounts receivable, and this resulted in a healthy cash cycle in Colombia. In addition, we expanded risk-sharing models such as PGPs, which grew 4 percentage points to represent 21% of segment revenue. Higher tickets in surgeries and emergency treatments more than offset lower volumes, supported by growth in chemotherapy and imaging.
Jesús Zamora: This improvement was driven by a combination of higher tickets and continued moderation in pharmaceutical costs. Total adjusted EBITDA increased 14% in the quarter and 14% for the full year. As we further penetrate Peru's healthcare market and expand relationships, we expect this segment of our regional platform to remain an important driver of growth going forward. Now let's move to Colombia on slide 10. During the quarter, we constrained our services to government-intervened payers and thus effectively managed the risks posed by them in our accounts receivable, and this resulted in a healthy cash cycle in Colombia. In addition, we expanded risk-sharing models such as PGPs, which grew 4 percentage points to represent 21% of segment revenue. Higher tickets in surgeries and emergency treatments more than offset lower volumes, supported by growth in chemotherapy and imaging.
Speaker #3: Total adjusted EBITDA increased 14% in the quarter and 14% for the full year . As we further penetrated Peru's healthcare market and expand relationships , we expect this segment of our regional platform to remain an important driver of growth going forward .
Speaker #3: Now, let's move to Colombia on slide ten. During the quarter, we constrained our services to government and intravenous payers, thus effectively managing the risks posed by them in our accounts receivables.
Speaker #3: And this resulted in a healthy cash cycle in Colombia . In addition , we expanded risk sharing models such as Pdps , which grew four percentage points to represent 21% of segment revenue .
Speaker #3: Higher tickets in surgeries and emergency treatments more than offset lower volumes, supported by growth in chemotherapy and imaging. In addition, serving the patient population of new payer and the expansion of PGX contributed to a 6% increase in Colombia's revenue for the quarter.
Jesús Zamora: In addition, serving the patient population of new payer and the expansion of PGPs contributed to a 6% increase in Colombia's revenue for the quarter. For the full year, revenue increased 4%, mainly driven by higher tickets. The decreases in adjusted EBITDA and margins shown on the right side of the slide reflect an unfavorable comparison with the Q4 of 2024, which benefited from extraordinary price adjustments, and a year-end recognition of procurement rebates. That concludes my review of the quarter and the year. I will now turn the call over to Giselle, who will discuss our results in greater detail.
Jesús Zamora: In addition, serving the patient population of new payer and the expansion of PGPs contributed to a 6% increase in Colombia's revenue for the quarter. For the full year, revenue increased 4%, mainly driven by higher tickets. The decreases in adjusted EBITDA and margins shown on the right side of the slide reflect an unfavorable comparison with the Q4 of 2024, which benefited from extraordinary price adjustments, and a year-end recognition of procurement rebates. That concludes my review of the quarter and the year. I will now turn the call over to Giselle, who will discuss our results in greater detail.
Speaker #3: For the full year , revenue increased 4% , mainly driven by higher tickets . The decreases in adjusted EBITDA and margins shown on the right side of the slide reflect an unfavorable comparison with the fourth quarter of 2020 .
Speaker #3: For which benefited from extraordinary price adjustments and the year-end recognition of procurement rebates. That concludes my review of the quarter and the year.
Speaker #3: I will now turn the call over to Giuseppe, who will discuss our results in greater detail.
Gisele Remy: Thank you, Suso. As the graphs show on Slide 12, the diversity of our owner's regional platform enabled us to deliver 6% revenue growth in the quarter and 4% for the year. Looking at the quarter, the 11% growth in Peru and 6% growth in Colombia offset the 3% decline in Mexico, where we have achieved steadier results in the operations. Although demand in the country remains soft, our business there has established a strong foundation for profitable growth this year and beyond, as Suso explained earlier. Now let's please turn to slide 13. Q4 adjusted EBITDA decreased 14% in FX neutral to PEN 220 million, with the margin contracting 4.5 percentage points to 19.5%.
Gisele Remy: Thank you, Suso. As the graphs show on Slide 12, the diversity of our owner's regional platform enabled us to deliver 6% revenue growth in the quarter and 4% for the year. Looking at the quarter, the 11% growth in Peru and 6% growth in Colombia offset the 3% decline in Mexico, where we have achieved steadier results in the operations. Although demand in the country remains soft, our business there has established a strong foundation for profitable growth this year and beyond, as Suso explained earlier. Now let's please turn to slide 13. Q4 adjusted EBITDA decreased 14% in FX neutral to PEN 220 million, with the margin contracting 4.5 percentage points to 19.5%.
Speaker #4: you . Susan As the grass show on slide 12 , the diversity of owner's regional platform enabled us to deliver 6% revenue growth in the quarter and 4% for the year Looking at the quarter , the 11% growth in Peru and 6% growth in Colombia offset the 3% decline in Mexico , where we have achieved steadier results in the operations .
Speaker #4: And although demand in the country remains soft, our business there has established a strong foundation for profitable growth—this year and beyond.
Speaker #4: As Susan explained earlier Now let's please turn to slide 13 . Fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA decreased 14% in FX neutral to 220 million souls , with the margin contracting 4.5 percentage points to 19.5% .
Speaker #4: Margin expansion and EBITDA growth in our Peru business was more than offset by Mexico's margin decline related to the mix of services and specialties.
Gisele Remy: Margin expansion and EBITDA growth in our Peru business was more than offset by Mexico's margin decline related to the mix of services and specialties, our previous healthcare plan to cover ISSSTE León, and our efforts to improve the operation in Mexico through the adjustments to our leadership and new IT systems. Also contributing to our EBITDA decline in the quarter was a higher proportion of risk-sharing contracts in Colombia, as well as the rebates recognized in Q4 of last year in Colombia, which created an unfavorable year-over-year comparison. When excluding extraordinary impacts in both periods, Colombia's EBITDA would have been relatively flat in Q4 2025 versus Q4 2024. Slide 14, please.
Gisele Remy: Margin expansion and EBITDA growth in our Peru business was more than offset by Mexico's margin decline related to the mix of services and specialties, our previous healthcare plan to cover ISSSTE León, and our efforts to improve the operation in Mexico through the adjustments to our leadership and new IT systems. Also contributing to our EBITDA decline in the quarter was a higher proportion of risk-sharing contracts in Colombia, as well as the rebates recognized in Q4 of last year in Colombia, which created an unfavorable year-over-year comparison. When excluding extraordinary impacts in both periods, Colombia's EBITDA would have been relatively flat in Q4 2025 versus Q4 2024. Slide 14, please.
Speaker #4: Our previous healthcare plan to cover isolation and our efforts to improve the operation in Mexico through the adjustments to our leadership and new IT systems , also contributing to our EBITDA decline in the quarter a higher proportion of risk sharing contracts in Colombia , as well as the rebates recognized in the fourth quarter of last year in Colombia , which created an unfavorable year over year comparison when excluding extraordinary impacts in both periods .
Speaker #4: Colombia's EBITDA would have been relatively flat in the fourth quarter of 2025 versus the fourth quarter of 2024 . Slide 14 please . For the year , adjusted EBITDA remained relatively flat , decreasing 3% in FX neutral to 917 million souls , with margin decreasing 1.7 percentage points to just under 21% .
Gisele Remy: For the year, adjusted EBITDA remained relatively flat, decreasing 3% in FX neutral to PEN 917 million, with margin decreasing 1.7 percentage points to just under 21%. The trend in EBITDA was largely due to the same reasons that I explained for Q4. Let's now move to slide 15. Our adjusted net income increased more than 3 times in Q4, aided by non-cash FX gains. On this slide, we break down the year-over-year change. Starting at the left of the bridge is operating income. The PEN 46 million decrease was primarily driven by Mexico's underperformance in the quarter, as well as the extraordinary pricing that Colombia benefited from in last year's Q4.
Gisele Remy: For the year, adjusted EBITDA remained relatively flat, decreasing 3% in FX neutral to PEN 917 million, with margin decreasing 1.7 percentage points to just under 21%. The trend in EBITDA was largely due to the same reasons that I explained for Q4. Let's now move to slide 15. Our adjusted net income increased more than 3 times in Q4, aided by non-cash FX gains. On this slide, we break down the year-over-year change. Starting at the left of the bridge is operating income. The PEN 46 million decrease was primarily driven by Mexico's underperformance in the quarter, as well as the extraordinary pricing that Colombia benefited from in last year's Q4.
Speaker #4: The trend in EBITDA was largely due to the same reasons that I explained for the fourth quarter. Let's now move to slide 15.
Speaker #4: Our adjusted net income increased more than three times in the fourth quarter, aided by non-cash FX gains. On this slide, we break down the over-year change. Starting at the left of the bridge is operating income.
Speaker #4: The 46 million decrease was primarily driven by Mexico's underperformance in the quarter , as well as the pricing that Colombia benefited from in last year's quarter .
Speaker #4: The positive noncash FX variance is primarily related to the appreciation of the Peruvian sol against the US dollar outside the range of the previous call spreads , we had in place , the 154 million dollars in net interest expenses that you see in the middle of the bridge was mainly due to 170 million of extraordinary expenses related to our refinancing , including not only the tender premiums paid , but also non-cash accounting impacts of derivative unwinds and derivative rollovers in order to effectively hedge the newly issued instruments , as well as the recognition of the unamortized costs of the previous term .
Gisele Remy: The positive PEN 71 million non-cash FX variance is primarily related to the appreciation of the Peruvian sol against the US dollar outside the range of the previous call spreads we had in place. The PEN 154 million delta in net interest expenses that you see in the middle of the bridge was mainly due to PEN 170 million of extraordinary expenses related to our refinancing, including not only the tender premiums paid, but also non-cash accounting impacts of derivative unwinds and derivative rollovers in order to effectively hedge the newly issued instruments, as well as the recognition of the unamortized costs of the previous term loan, which was repaid. These impacts are also a part of the PEN 187 million in extraordinary items and adjustments, along with the incentive payments related to the Opción Oncología doctors.
Gisele Remy: The positive PEN 71 million non-cash FX variance is primarily related to the appreciation of the Peruvian sol against the US dollar outside the range of the previous call spreads we had in place. The PEN 154 million delta in net interest expenses that you see in the middle of the bridge was mainly due to PEN 170 million of extraordinary expenses related to our refinancing, including not only the tender premiums paid, but also non-cash accounting impacts of derivative unwinds and derivative rollovers in order to effectively hedge the newly issued instruments, as well as the recognition of the unamortized costs of the previous term loan, which was repaid. These impacts are also a part of the PEN 187 million in extraordinary items and adjustments, along with the incentive payments related to the Opción Oncología doctors.
Speaker #4: The loan, which was repaid. These impacts are also a part of the $187 million in extraordinary items and adjustments, along with the incentive payments related to the option for Oncologia doctors.
Speaker #4: The $41 million in less income taxes are related to negative pre-tax profit in the quarter due to the extraordinary refinancing impacts, which resulted in an income tax credit.
Gisele Remy: The PEN 41 million in less income taxes are related to negative pre-tax profit in the quarter due to the extraordinary refinancing impacts, which resulted in an income tax credit. Slide 16, please. For the year, adjusted net income grew thanks to greater financial discipline and the steps we took to improve Auna's debt structure. The PEN 158 million decrease in operating profit was driven primarily by Mexico's aforementioned stabilization. The PEN 235 million difference in FX reflects a positive non-cash amount of PEN 193 million in 2025 compared to a negative PEN 42 million impact in 2024, and is related to the appreciation of the Peruvian sol, as I explained before.
Gisele Remy: The PEN 41 million in less income taxes are related to negative pre-tax profit in the quarter due to the extraordinary refinancing impacts, which resulted in an income tax credit. Slide 16, please. For the year, adjusted net income grew thanks to greater financial discipline and the steps we took to improve Auna's debt structure. The PEN 158 million decrease in operating profit was driven primarily by Mexico's aforementioned stabilization. The PEN 235 million difference in FX reflects a positive non-cash amount of PEN 193 million in 2025 compared to a negative PEN 42 million impact in 2024, and is related to the appreciation of the Peruvian sol, as I explained before.
Speaker #4: Slide 16 please , for the year , adjusted net income grew thanks to greater financial discipline and the steps we took to improve owner's debt structure .
Speaker #4: The $158 million decrease in operating profit was driven primarily by Mexico's aforementioned stabilization. The $235 million difference in FX reflects a positive, non-cash amount of $193 million in 2025, compared to a -$42 million impact in 2024, and is related to the appreciation of the Peruvian sol.
Speaker #4: As I explained before, it is important to the refinancing. We have adjusted the range on the Peruvian sol call spread hedges closer to current FX levels, which means we likely will not see these swings in 2026.
Gisele Remy: It is important to note that following the refinancing, we have adjusted the range on the Peruvian sol call spread hedges closer to current FX levels, which means we will likely not see these swings in 2026. The PEN 62 million increase in net interest expense was mainly driven by the extraordinary expenses related to the refinancing. Importantly, excluding net finance costs from exchange rate differences as well as extraordinary refinancing costs, net finance costs would have been PEN 459 million in the full year 2025, and PEN 561 million in the full year 2024, representing a decrease of PEN 102 million or 18.2%.
Gisele Remy: It is important to note that following the refinancing, we have adjusted the range on the Peruvian sol call spread hedges closer to current FX levels, which means we will likely not see these swings in 2026. The PEN 62 million increase in net interest expense was mainly driven by the extraordinary expenses related to the refinancing. Importantly, excluding net finance costs from exchange rate differences as well as extraordinary refinancing costs, net finance costs would have been PEN 459 million in the full year 2025, and PEN 561 million in the full year 2024, representing a decrease of PEN 102 million or 18.2%.
Speaker #4: But $62 million increase in net interest expense was mainly driven by the extraordinary expenses related to the refinancing . Importantly , excluding net finance from exchange rate differences as well as extraordinary refinancing costs , net finance costs would have been 459 million souls in the full year 2025 and 561 million in the full year 2020 .
Speaker #4: Four , representing a decrease of 102 million , or 18.2% . The $205 million in non-cash and extraordinary items mostly reflects the partial repayment of the 2029 notes , but also a 24 million adjustment to business development expenses in the first quarter of 2025 .
Gisele Remy: PEN 205 million in non-cash and extraordinary items mostly reflects the partial repayment of the 2029 notes, but also a PEN 24 million adjustment to business development expenses in Q1 2025 that was related to payments to the Opción Oncología doctors. Lastly, on this slide, the PEN 29 million increase in income tax simply reflects higher pre-tax profit in 2025. The 2025 effective tax rate was unfavorably impacted by the refinancing exercise in Q4. When excluding the impacts of the refinancing, our effective tax rate would have been largely in line with statutory rates and within our target range of 35% to 40%. Let's now move to the cash flow bridge on slide 17.
Gisele Remy: PEN 205 million in non-cash and extraordinary items mostly reflects the partial repayment of the 2029 notes, but also a PEN 24 million adjustment to business development expenses in Q1 2025 that was related to payments to the Opción Oncología doctors. Lastly, on this slide, the PEN 29 million increase in income tax simply reflects higher pre-tax profit in 2025. The 2025 effective tax rate was unfavorably impacted by the refinancing exercise in Q4. When excluding the impacts of the refinancing, our effective tax rate would have been largely in line with statutory rates and within our target range of 35% to 40%. Let's now move to the cash flow bridge on slide 17.
Speaker #4: That was related to payments to the Option Oncología doctors. Lastly, on this slide, the $29 million increase in income tax simply reflects higher pre-tax profit in 2025.
Speaker #4: The 2025 effective tax rate was unfavorably impacted by the refinancing exercise in the fourth quarter , when excluding the impacts of the refinancing are effective , tax rate would have been largely in line with statutory rates .
Speaker #4: And within our target range of 35 to 40% . Let's now move to the cash flow bridge on slide 17 . Free cash flow grew 35% to 582 million souls , while our year end cash position increased 42% to 335 million souls .
Gisele Remy: Free cash flow grew 35% to PEN 582 million, while our year-end cash position increased 42% to PEN 335 million. This means we have adequate funds to continue investing in our strategic growth initiatives in Mexico and Peru. Pre-tax operating cash flow increased nearly 2% on improved cash conversion. Organic maintenance CapEx was PEN 145 million, or 3.3% of revenues. This mostly included PEN 86 million of infrastructure CapEx, PEN 51 million for the implementation of SAP and hospital information systems in Monterrey, and PEN 15 million of the OCA holdback obligations. Free cash flow also benefited from PEN 76 million of cash resulting from a rebalancing of Auna Seguros's investment portfolio.
Gisele Remy: Free cash flow grew 35% to PEN 582 million, while our year-end cash position increased 42% to PEN 335 million. This means we have adequate funds to continue investing in our strategic growth initiatives in Mexico and Peru. Pre-tax operating cash flow increased nearly 2% on improved cash conversion. Organic maintenance CapEx was PEN 145 million, or 3.3% of revenues. This mostly included PEN 86 million of infrastructure CapEx, PEN 51 million for the implementation of SAP and hospital information systems in Monterrey, and PEN 15 million of the OCA holdback obligations. Free cash flow also benefited from PEN 76 million of cash resulting from a rebalancing of Auna Seguros's investment portfolio.
Speaker #4: This means we have adequate funds to continue investing in our strategic growth initiatives in Mexico and Peru. Pre-tax operating cash flow increased nearly 2% on improved cash conversion.
Speaker #4: Organic maintenance , CapEx was $145 million , or 3.3% of revenues . This mostly included 86 million soles of infrastructure CapEx , 51 million for the implementation of SAP and hospital information systems in Monterrey , and 15 million soles of the Oka hold back obligations .
Speaker #4: Free cash flow also benefited from 76 million of cash resulting from a rebalancing of Una Seguros investment portfolio . The 454 million souls in interest paid , which net of refinancing fees would have been 407 million soles , reflects an almost 90 million decrease versus the 498 million in interest paid in the 12 month period of 2024 .
Gisele Remy: The PEN 454 million in interest paid, which net of refinancing fees would have been PEN 407 million, reflects an almost PEN 90 million decrease versus the PEN 498 million in interest paid in the twelve-month period of 2024, also net of extraordinary items. This represents a material reduction in interest expense with increased interest coverage, leaving Auna in a solid position to continue deleveraging into 2026 off the back of growing cash flows and reduced interest expenses. Now a few words about Auna's new debt structure on slide 18. Our $825 million equivalent debt refinancing has significantly reinforced Auna's capital structure by reducing interest expense, extending our maturity profile, increasing short-term liquidity, and as a result, freeing up a material portion of short-term revolving credit facilities.
Gisele Remy: The PEN 454 million in interest paid, which net of refinancing fees would have been PEN 407 million, reflects an almost PEN 90 million decrease versus the PEN 498 million in interest paid in the twelve-month period of 2024, also net of extraordinary items. This represents a material reduction in interest expense with increased interest coverage, leaving Auna in a solid position to continue deleveraging into 2026 off the back of growing cash flows and reduced interest expenses. Now a few words about Auna's new debt structure on slide 18. Our $825 million equivalent debt refinancing has significantly reinforced Auna's capital structure by reducing interest expense, extending our maturity profile, increasing short-term liquidity, and as a result, freeing up a material portion of short-term revolving credit facilities.
Speaker #4: Also net of extraordinary items . This represents a material reduction in interest expense , with increased interest coverage leaving Ona in a solid position to continue deleveraging into 2026 .
Speaker #4: Off the back of growing cash flows and reduced interest expenses . Now , a few words about our owner's new debt structure on slide 18 , our $825 million equivalent debt refinancing has significantly reinforced owner's capital structure by reducing interest expense , extending our maturity profile , increasing short term liquidity , and as a result , freeing up a material portion of short term revolving credit facilities .
Speaker #4: I'd like to point out again that when excluding premiums and expenses resulting from the 2025 refinancing , we have successfully generated cash after interest payments in 2025 and are well positioned to increase that cash generation in 2026 .
Gisele Remy: I'd like to point out again that when excluding premiums and expenses resulting from the 2025 refinancing, we have successfully generated cash after interest payments in 2025 and are well positioned to increase that cash generation in 2026. Finally, all of the aforementioned impacts have moved us closer to achieving our target leverage ratio of 3x net debt to EBITDA in the medium term. That concludes my review. I'll now turn the call back to Suso, who would like to wrap up our presentation before we open the call for questions.
Gisele Remy: I'd like to point out again that when excluding premiums and expenses resulting from the 2025 refinancing, we have successfully generated cash after interest payments in 2025 and are well positioned to increase that cash generation in 2026. Finally, all of the aforementioned impacts have moved us closer to achieving our target leverage ratio of 3x net debt to EBITDA in the medium term. That concludes my review. I'll now turn the call back to Suso, who would like to wrap up our presentation before we open the call for questions.
Speaker #4: Finally , all of the aforementioned impacts have moved us closer to achieving our target leverage ratio of three times net debt to EBITDA in the medium term .
Speaker #4: That concludes my review. I'll now turn the call back to Sue, who would like to wrap up our presentation before we open the call for questions.
Speaker #3: Thank you . Giselle , let me close with a few key takeaways . We began 2026 . Well positioned both operationally and financially .
Jesús Zamora: Thank you, Giselle. Let me close with a few key takeaways. We began 2026 well-positioned both operationally and financially. Our new leadership team in Mexico has a clear path to growth, while the risk mitigation measures in Colombia continue to protect our cash cycle. Where Peru continues to underpin Auna's vertically integrated platform, demonstrating the strength and predictability of our business model at scale. The addition of initiatives such as the Centro Ambulatorio Trecca will further expand our addressable market in Peru and highlight the significant growth opportunities that remain, as do our PGP growth in Colombia and as do the ISSSTE León Healthcare Plan award in Monterrey. In Colombia, we will continue to diversify away from intervened payers and prioritize cash flows through PGP arrangements. We expect Mexico to recover in 2026, regaining volumes and margins.
Jesús Zamora: Thank you, Giselle. Let me close with a few key takeaways. We began 2026 well-positioned both operationally and financially. Our new leadership team in Mexico has a clear path to growth, while the risk mitigation measures in Colombia continue to protect our cash cycle. Where Peru continues to underpin Auna's vertically integrated platform, demonstrating the strength and predictability of our business model at scale. The addition of initiatives such as the Centro Ambulatorio Trecca will further expand our addressable market in Peru and highlight the significant growth opportunities that remain, as do our PGP growth in Colombia and as do the ISSSTE León Healthcare Plan award in Monterrey. In Colombia, we will continue to diversify away from intervened payers and prioritize cash flows through PGP arrangements. We expect Mexico to recover in 2026, regaining volumes and margins.
Speaker #3: Our new leadership team in Mexico has a clear path to growth . While the risk mitigation measures in Colombia continue to protect our cash cycle and where Peru continues to underpin our vertically integrated platform , demonstrating the strength and predictability of our business model at scale , the addition of initiatives such as the Central Ambulatorio Treka will further expand our addressable market and prove and highlights the significant growth opportunities that remain , as do our growth in Colombia and as do the East Leone Healthcare Plan Award in Monterrey in Colombia .
Speaker #3: We will continue to diversify away from intraven payers and prioritize cash flows through P-gp arrangements . We expect Mexico to recover in 2026 , regaining volumes in margins .
Speaker #3: The team has increased owners' accessibility to more policyholders and coverage plans, be it with private insurance companies, employer groups, or others. Finally, we entered the year with stronger liquidity and the financial flexibility needed to execute our growth strategy.
Jesús Zamora: The team has increased Auna's accessibility to more policy holders and coverage plans, be it with private insurance companies, employer groups, or ISSSTELEON. Finally, we enter the year with stronger liquidity and the financial flexibility needed to execute our growth strategy. Before turning to guidance, as trading volumes strengthen and our commercial and operational initiatives in high complexity gain traction, we expect Auna's share price to more fully reflect the intrinsic value of our platform. We will continue to strengthen our engagement with the investment community to further the understanding of what Auna is and can be in the future. Finally, let's turn to guidance on slide 20. Taking into account expected market conditions this year, our stronger position in Mexico, and Auna's strengthened capital structure, we expect adjusted EBITDA to increase 12% FX neutral, supported by disciplined cost management and ongoing investments in our strategic growth initiatives.
Jesús Zamora: The team has increased Auna's accessibility to more policy holders and coverage plans, be it with private insurance companies, employer groups, or ISSSTELEON. Finally, we enter the year with stronger liquidity and the financial flexibility needed to execute our growth strategy. Before turning to guidance, as trading volumes strengthen and our commercial and operational initiatives in high complexity gain traction, we expect Auna's share price to more fully reflect the intrinsic value of our platform. We will continue to strengthen our engagement with the investment community to further the understanding of what Auna is and can be in the future. Finally, let's turn to guidance on slide 20. Taking into account expected market conditions this year, our stronger position in Mexico, and Auna's strengthened capital structure, we expect adjusted EBITDA to increase 12% FX neutral, supported by disciplined cost management and ongoing investments in our strategic growth initiatives.
Speaker #3: Before turning to guidance, as trading volumes strengthen and our commercial and operational initiatives in high complexity gain traction, we expect the owner's share price to more fully reflect the intrinsic value of our platform.
Speaker #3: We will continue to strengthen our engagement with the investment community to further the understanding of what Ona is and can be in the future Finally , let's turn to guidance on slide 20 .
Speaker #3: Taking into account expected market conditions , this year , are stronger position in Mexico and own is strengthened capital structure . We expect adjusted EBITDA to increase 12% .
Speaker #3: FX neutral supported by disciplined cost management and ongoing investments in our strategic growth initiatives We are also projecting revenue growth of 12% , driven by sustained commercial momentum and operational execution Finally , we expect CapEx to remain at approximately 4% of revenue as we continue balancing growth , investments with cash flow generation .
Jesús Zamora: We are also projecting revenue growth of 12%, driven by sustained commercial momentum and operational execution. Finally, we expect CapEx to remain at approximately 4% of revenue as we continue balancing growth investments with cash flow generation. With that, we will open the call for questions. Thank you very much.
Jesús Zamora: We are also projecting revenue growth of 12%, driven by sustained commercial momentum and operational execution. Finally, we expect CapEx to remain at approximately 4% of revenue as we continue balancing growth investments with cash flow generation. With that, we will open the call for questions. Thank you very much.
Speaker #3: With that, we will open the call for questions. Thank you very much.
Speaker #1: Thank you At this time , we will open the floor for question and answer session . As a reminder , please , you can also submit your questions online by using the Q&A function of the webcast platform Your first question comes from the line of Arthur Alves of Morgan Stanley .
Operator: Thank you. At this time, we will open the floor for question and answer session. As a reminder, please, you can also submit your questions online by using the Q&A function of the webcast platform. Your first question comes from the line of Arthur Alves of Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.
Operator: Thank you. At this time, we will open the floor for question and answer session. As a reminder, please, you can also submit your questions online by using the Q&A function of the webcast platform. Your first question comes from the line of Arthur Alves of Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.
Speaker #1: Your line is now open
Arthur Alves: Good morning, Suso, Giselle, Lorenzo, and everybody else on the call. Thank you for taking our questions. We wanted to explore a little bit more your guidance, and if you're able to break down a little bit more by region or by business line, what are your growth and EBITDA expansions in each line? We would assume that a Mexico recovery it's what drives most of this improvement year-over-year. If so, shouldn't we expect a little bit more on the margin side, especially since revenues and adjusted EBITDA guidance imply flat margins? If Mexico is recovering, and this is a fixed business segment of the company, shouldn't I expect a little bit more in the EBITDA growth versus the revenue growth?
Speaker #5: Good morning Suzu , Lorenzo and everybody else in the call . Thank you for taking our questions We wanted to explore a little bit more .
Arthur Alves: Good morning, Suso, Giselle, Lorenzo, and everybody else on the call. Thank you for taking our questions. We wanted to explore a little bit more your guidance, and if you're able to break down a little bit more by region or by business line, what are your growth and EBITDA expansions in each line? We would assume that a Mexico recovery it's what drives most of this improvement year-over-year. If so, shouldn't we expect a little bit more on the margin side, especially since revenues and adjusted EBITDA guidance imply flat margins? If Mexico is recovering, and this is a fixed business segment of the company, shouldn't I expect a little bit more in the EBITDA growth versus the revenue growth?
Speaker #5: Your guidance . And if you if you're able to break down a little bit more by region or by business line , what what are your growth and expansions in each line We would assume that Mexico recovery is is what drives most of these .
Speaker #5: Improvement year on year . But if so , shouldn't we expect a little bit more on the on the margin side , especially since revenues and adjusted EBITDA guidance imply flat margins .
Speaker #5: But if Mexico is recovering and this is a fixed business segment of the company should not expect a little bit more in the everyday growth versus the revenue growth .
Speaker #5: And a second question , also on the guidance , what what are the risks to to your 2020 guidance ? Where do you think things could could potentially go wrong and how are you assessing Thank you
Arthur Alves: A second question also on the guidance. What are the risks to your 2026 guidance? Where do you think things could potentially go wrong, and how are you assessing that? Thank you.
Arthur Alves: A second question also on the guidance. What are the risks to your 2026 guidance? Where do you think things could potentially go wrong, and how are you assessing that? Thank you.
Speaker #3: Hello . Thank you . And good morning everybody . And thank you for that call . Let me . It's a it's a long question and it's a long response .
Jesús Zamora: Hello. Thank you. Good morning, everybody, and thank you for that call. Let me. It's a long question, and it's a long response. Let me address it in the following way. First of all, on Mexico, no. Mexico is off to a solid start for the year, you know, in line with our expectations and the part of everything that we've done in 2025. I see January and February.
Jesús Zamora: Hello. Thank you. Good morning, everybody, and thank you for that call. Let me. It's a long question, and it's a long response. Let me address it in the following way. First of all, on Mexico, no. Mexico is off to a solid start for the year, you know, in line with our expectations and the part of everything that we've done in 2025. I see January and February.
Speaker #3: Let me let me it in the following way . You know first of all , on Mexico , no Mexico is off to a solid start for the year .
Speaker #3: No. In line with our expectations and product, everything we've done is in 2025. So I see January and February 2026 versus 2025.
Jesús Zamora: 2026 versus 2025 metrics, you know, improved in various different lines. I mean, surgeries are up in single-digit growth. Hemodynamics are up double-digit growth. Of course, in oncology, radiotherapy and chemotherapy, you know, in the double- to triple-digit growth, you know. Of course, extremely high in comparison to last year because we did not have Opción Oncología, you know. Now, we see occupancy utilization in Mexico, you know, also trending up. I see it in February reaching 41%. Overall results in Mexico revenues are up in high single digits versus the same last period. Of course, ISSSTE León is just kicking up its volume. I'm excited about this now. With respect to margin, I'll get to guidance, but with respect to margin, as you may...
Jesús Zamora: 2026 versus 2025 metrics, you know, improved in various different lines. I mean, surgeries are up in single-digit growth. Hemodynamics are up double-digit growth. Of course, in oncology, radiotherapy and chemotherapy, you know, in the double- to triple-digit growth, you know. Of course, extremely high in comparison to last year because we did not have Opción Oncología, you know. Now, we see occupancy utilization in Mexico, you know, also trending up. I see it in February reaching 41%. Overall results in Mexico revenues are up in high single digits versus the same last period. Of course, ISSSTE León is just kicking up its volume. I'm excited about this now. With respect to margin, I'll get to guidance, but with respect to margin, as you may...
Speaker #3: Metrics . You know , improved in various different lines . I mean , surgeries are up single digit growth and dynamics are up , double digit growth .
Speaker #3: And of course , in oncology , radiotherapy and chemotherapy , you know , in the double to triple digit growth , you know , and of course , extremely high in comparison to last year because we do not have options .
Speaker #3: No , no , we see occupancy utilization in Mexico . No . Also trending up . I see it in February . I'm reaching 41% .
Speaker #3: So overall results in Mexico revenues are up on high single digits versus the same last period . Of course , Leon is just kicking up .
Speaker #3: It's volume . So I'm excited about this now with respect to margin . And I'll get to guidance . But with respect to margin , as you did , also comment on that .
Jesús Zamora: You did also comment on that. Mexico's EBITDA margin reflects mix of services and specialties that I'm referring to 2025. As we see 2026 with the expansion of ISSSTE Nuevo León with the preferred provider status now, you know, and with all our cost containment strategies that we've mentioned as well in the earnings release, you know, we see higher volumes and margin gains in 2026. You know, of course, as mentioned before, we see interesting and very promising growth in oncology and, of course, those are businesses that we have cost containment. With respect to guidance, to finish off the question.
Jesús Zamora: You did also comment on that. Mexico's EBITDA margin reflects mix of services and specialties that I'm referring to 2025. As we see 2026 with the expansion of ISSSTE Nuevo León with the preferred provider status now, you know, and with all our cost containment strategies that we've mentioned as well in the earnings release, you know, we see higher volumes and margin gains in 2026. You know, of course, as mentioned before, we see interesting and very promising growth in oncology and, of course, those are businesses that we have cost containment. With respect to guidance, to finish off the question.
Speaker #3: So Mexico's EBITDA margin reflects mix of services and specialties that I'm referring to 2025 as we as we see 2026 with the extension of the Leon , with the the preferred provider status .
Speaker #3: Now . No . And with all our cost containment strategies that we've mentioned as well in the earnings release , you know , we see higher volumes and margin gains in 2026 .
Speaker #3: No , of course , as I mentioned before , we see interesting and very promising Growth in oncology . And and of course those are businesses that we have cost containment .
Speaker #3: And then with respect to guidance to finish it off , the question no First of all , in terms of what could prevent or delay our achieving guidance , no , I think last year we didn't feel comfortable because there were many externalities .
Jesús Zamora: You know, first of all, in terms of what could prevent or delay, you know, our achievement guidance now. I think last year we didn't feel comfortable because there were many externalities, you know, and that's why we didn't provide guidance. The political headwinds in Colombia, the issues we had in Mexico as well. You know, today, given all the plans and all the way we've confronted these challenges and made them into opportunities, I think we're very confident in the stability of the business and the outlook, and we feel very comfortable with the guidance. You know, the main variables remain, of course, the pace of volume recovery in Mexico. We see that growing, as I mentioned before.
Jesús Zamora: You know, first of all, in terms of what could prevent or delay, you know, our achievement guidance now. I think last year we didn't feel comfortable because there were many externalities, you know, and that's why we didn't provide guidance. The political headwinds in Colombia, the issues we had in Mexico as well. You know, today, given all the plans and all the way we've confronted these challenges and made them into opportunities, I think we're very confident in the stability of the business and the outlook, and we feel very comfortable with the guidance. You know, the main variables remain, of course, the pace of volume recovery in Mexico. We see that growing, as I mentioned before.
Speaker #3: You know , and that's why we didn't provide guidance . The political headwind in Colombia , the issues we had in Mexico as well , you know , today , given all the plans and all the way we've we've affronted these these challenges and made them into opportunities .
Speaker #3: I think we're very confident in the stability of the of the business and the outlook . And we feel very comfortable with the guidance .
Speaker #3: No , the main variables remain , of course , the pace of volume recovery . Mexico . We see that growing , as I mentioned before , the macroeconomic conditions in operating markets , definitely .
Jesús Zamora: The macroeconomic conditions in operating markets, definitely, but we see Mexico pretty stable in that front. You know, and of course, certain dynamics affecting payers that I think might even benefit us, you know. I think with Peru continuing to perform strongly, Mexico way on its way to recovery, you know, I'm very confident that guidance is achievable. I don't know, Giselle, would you wanna comment anything on this more open-ended question?
Jesús Zamora: The macroeconomic conditions in operating markets, definitely, but we see Mexico pretty stable in that front. You know, and of course, certain dynamics affecting payers that I think might even benefit us, you know. I think with Peru continuing to perform strongly, Mexico way on its way to recovery, you know, I'm very confident that guidance is achievable. I don't know, Giselle, would you wanna comment anything on this more open-ended question?
Speaker #3: But we see Mexico pretty stable in that front . No . And of course , certain dynamics affecting payers that I think might even benefit us .
Speaker #3: No , I think with Peru continuing to perform strongly Mexico way on its way to recovery , no , I'm very confident that guidance is achievable .
Speaker #3: I don't know what you want to compliment anything on this . More open ended question
Speaker #6: Of course . Thank you . Thank you for for the question perhaps what I what I would compliment there is , you know , kind of what's that mix behind the guidance from a country perspective .
Gisele Remy: Sure, Suso. Thank you. Thank you for the question. Perhaps what I would complement there is, you know, kind of what's that mix behind the guidance, from a country perspective, and what are we expecting from margins is that, I think, you know, normally when we set out our growth targets, it's very well-balanced across the three geographies. So we are expecting solid growth from all three geographies off the back of all of the strategic initiatives that we mentioned in the call. In the case of margins, specifically when we talk about Mexico, as we noted in the call, Q4 impacts had an impact on the Q4 margin.
Gisele Remy: Sure, Suso. Thank you. Thank you for the question. Perhaps what I would complement there is, you know, kind of what's that mix behind the guidance, from a country perspective, and what are we expecting from margins is that, I think, you know, normally when we set out our growth targets, it's very well-balanced across the three geographies. So we are expecting solid growth from all three geographies off the back of all of the strategic initiatives that we mentioned in the call. In the case of margins, specifically when we talk about Mexico, as we noted in the call, Q4 impacts had an impact on the Q4 margin.
Speaker #6: And what are we expecting from margins . Is that I think , you know , normally when we set out our growth targets , it's very well balanced across the three geographies .
Speaker #6: So, we are expecting solid growth from all three geographies off the back of all the strategic initiatives that we mentioned in the call.
Speaker #4: And in the case of margins , specifically , when we when we talk about Mexico , as as we noted in the call , the fourth quarter impacts had a had an impact on the fourth quarter margin , but we will see that margin recovering .
Gisele Remy: We will see that margin recovering in the case of Mexico going into Q1 of 2026 and the rest of the year, you know, from that Q4 level, right? We will see both a mix of EBITDA growth across the three geographies, as well as all the strategic initiatives that we're taking in the case of Mexico also to contain costs and to finally increase volumes, which obviously will have a favorable impact on margin as well.
Gisele Remy: We will see that margin recovering in the case of Mexico going into Q1 of 2026 and the rest of the year, you know, from that Q4 level, right? We will see both a mix of EBITDA growth across the three geographies, as well as all the strategic initiatives that we're taking in the case of Mexico also to contain costs and to finally increase volumes, which obviously will have a favorable impact on margin as well.
Speaker #4: In the case of Mexico , going into the first quarter of of 2026 and the rest of the year , you know , from that fourth quarter level , right ?
Speaker #4: So we will see both a mix of EBITDA growth across the three geographies, as well as all the strategic initiatives that we're taking.
Speaker #4: In the case of Mexico, also to contain costs and to finally increase volumes, which obviously will have a favorable impact on margin as well.
Speaker #3: And I think just to finalize , we're not giving guidance by country , you know , at a certain moment we might consider that , definitely .
Jesús Zamora: I think just to finalize, we're not giving guidance by country. You know, at a certain moment, we might consider that, definitely. But right now, just directionally, and as I project the company five years out, I think Mexico and Peru will be the motors of the company. You know, Colombia will be diminished because of the growth of Mexico and Peru. Now, it's a critical part of our strategy, Colombia, but because of the scale, the cost efficiencies it has that we take to the other two countries. But the growth opportunities in Mexico and in Peru as well, you know, continue to be the most important sources for growth in the next five years. Thank you.
Jesús Zamora: I think just to finalize, we're not giving guidance by country. You know, at a certain moment, we might consider that, definitely. But right now, just directionally, and as I project the company five years out, I think Mexico and Peru will be the motors of the company. You know, Colombia will be diminished because of the growth of Mexico and Peru. Now, it's a critical part of our strategy, Colombia, but because of the scale, the cost efficiencies it has that we take to the other two countries. But the growth opportunities in Mexico and in Peru as well, you know, continue to be the most important sources for growth in the next five years. Thank you.
Speaker #3: But right now , just directionally and as I project the company five years out , I think Mexico and Peru will be the motors of the company .
Speaker #3: Colombia will be diminished because of the growth of Mexico and Peru , not it's a critical part of our strategy . Colombia . But but because of the scale , the cost efficiencies it has that we take them to the other two countries .
Speaker #3: But the the growth opportunities in Mexico and in Peru as well , you know , continue to be the most important sources for growth in the next five years .
Speaker #3: Thank you .
Speaker #5: That's very clear. Thank you.
Arthur Alves: That's very clear. Thank you.
Arthur Alves: That's very clear. Thank you.
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Speaker #7: Hello, Tim, can you hear me?
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Speaker #3: Yes ,
Jesús Zamora: Yes, perfectly.
Jesús Zamora: Yes, perfectly.
Speaker #8: Perfectly okay .
Giovanni Vescovi: Okay, perfect. Thank you for taking my question. Gisele and Lorenzo, my question regards to Torre Trecca, which I've seen some updates recently. I wanted to know more color, more details in terms of margins, revenue contribution, and if the company already has a set date for the opening of the project, maybe Q3, Q4 of 2028, if I'm not mistaken. Just for a recap on the ISSSTELEON price increase, you guys are expecting the double-digit price increase for 2026. Is this correct? That's it. Thank you.
Giovanni Vescovi: Okay, perfect. Thank you for taking my question. Gisele and Lorenzo, my question regards to Torre Trecca, which I've seen some updates recently. I wanted to know more color, more details in terms of margins, revenue contribution, and if the company already has a set date for the opening of the project, maybe Q3, Q4 of 2028, if I'm not mistaken. Just for a recap on the ISSSTELEON price increase, you guys are expecting the double-digit price increase for 2026. Is this correct? That's it. Thank you.
Speaker #7: Perfect . So thank you for taking my question . So , Lorenzo , my question regards to tour , which I have seen some updates recently , but I wanted to know more color and more details in terms of margins , revenue contribution , and if the company already has like a set date for the opening of the project , maybe third quarter .
Speaker #7: Fourth quarter of 2028 , if I'm not mistaken . And in terms just for a recap on the installation price increase , you guys are expecting the double digit price increase for 2026 .
Speaker #7: Is this correct And that's it . Thank you .
Speaker #3: Thank you very much . Thank you very much , Giovanni . So going with the last question , first . Yes , it is for all of 2026 .
Jesús Zamora: Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Giovanni. Going with the last question first, yes, it is for all of 2026. It's a much better award than we've had in the past. It allows us to control also prescription and devices. I think qualitatively and quantitatively, it's a much improved contract. I think, we're gonna deliver great service to them, and we're gonna also have attractive margins from a large contract. The largest contract you can get with respect to a counterparty like the state in the state of Nuevo León. Yes, it is for all of 2026. Then with respect to Torre Trecca.
Jesús Zamora: Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Giovanni. Going with the last question first, yes, it is for all of 2026. It's a much better award than we've had in the past. It allows us to control also prescription and devices. I think qualitatively and quantitatively, it's a much improved contract. I think, we're gonna deliver great service to them, and we're gonna also have attractive margins from a large contract. The largest contract you can get with respect to a counterparty like the state in the state of Nuevo León. Yes, it is for all of 2026. Then with respect to Torre Trecca.
Speaker #3: It's a much better award than we've had in the past . It allows us to control also prescription and devices . So I think qualitatively and quantitatively it's a much improved contract .
Speaker #3: I think we're going to deliver great service to them , and we're going to also have attractive margins from from our large contract .
Speaker #3: The largest contract you can get with respect to a counterparty like the state in the in the state of Nuevo Leon . So yes , it is for all of 2026 .
Speaker #3: So and then with respect to with respect to So this has to be viewed as a very attractive opportunity for for own . I know I want to I want to step back and make sure the investor community understands , you know , Ona is a healthcare play that has been very successful in B2B relationships with insurance company .
Jesús Zamora: This has to be viewed as a very attractive opportunity for Auna, you know. I wanna step back and make sure the investor community understands, you know. Auna is a healthcare play that has been very successful in B2B relationships with the insurance company, of course, large collective employers or groups, you know. And then improve particularly within B2C. The biggest market, you know, and then when you project out the next 10 years, is the B2G segment. You know, state being the large payer for certain services. You have that everywhere in the world, and you have it as a very attractive segment in Peru and particularly in Mexico as well. This contract is also foundational for our development for the B2G segment.
Jesús Zamora: This has to be viewed as a very attractive opportunity for Auna, you know. I wanna step back and make sure the investor community understands, you know. Auna is a healthcare play that has been very successful in B2B relationships with the insurance company, of course, large collective employers or groups, you know. And then improve particularly within B2C. The biggest market, you know, and then when you project out the next 10 years, is the B2G segment. You know, state being the large payer for certain services. You have that everywhere in the world, and you have it as a very attractive segment in Peru and particularly in Mexico as well. This contract is also foundational for our development for the B2G segment.
Speaker #3: Of course , large collective employers are or or groups , you know , and then in Peru , particularly with B2C , the biggest market .
Speaker #3: And then when you project out the next ten years is to be to GE segment , you know , state being the largest payer for certain services you have , you have that everywhere in the world , and you have it as a very attractive as a very attractive segment in Peru .
Speaker #3: And particularly in Mexico as well . So this contract is also foundational for our development for the B2B segment . So we don't want to call it anymore .
Jesús Zamora: Torre Trecca, we don't wanna call it Torre Trecca anymore. We wanna call it Centro Ambulatorio Trecca. You know, it is an ambulatory center that will deliver 3 million services, you know, for the EsSalud population. EsSalud is Peru's Social Security system. It's an ambulatory center that's very focused on few services, those that EsSalud has limitations to provide, you know. With a very well-known and very stable system of payments through EsSalud, you know, which are the issuance of some certificates, you know, for the operation every month and further construction, you know. As we make progress, the EsSalud will issue these certificates.
Jesús Zamora: Torre Trecca, we don't wanna call it Torre Trecca anymore. We wanna call it Centro Ambulatorio Trecca. You know, it is an ambulatory center that will deliver 3 million services, you know, for the EsSalud population. EsSalud is Peru's Social Security system. It's an ambulatory center that's very focused on few services, those that EsSalud has limitations to provide, you know. With a very well-known and very stable system of payments through EsSalud, you know, which are the issuance of some certificates, you know, for the operation every month and further construction, you know. As we make progress, the EsSalud will issue these certificates.
Speaker #3: We want to call it an ambulatory center . Treka . No . Is a is a is a is a ambulatory center that will deliver 3 million services for the population ?
Speaker #3: The Salud is the is Peru's social security system . You know , and it's a it's a it's it's an ambulatory center that's very focused on few services .
Speaker #3: Those that Salud has some limitations to provide . You know , with a very well known and very stable system of payments through a salud .
Speaker #3: You know , which are the issuance of some certificates , you know , for the operation every month . And for the construction , you know , as we make progress , we the , the Salud certificates that are easily discounted in the market , there are a implicit risk of the Republic of Peru , and there's no risk of payment .
Jesús Zamora: They're easily discountable in the market. There is an implicit risk of public approval. There's no risk of payment. It's a system of public-private partnerships that works in Peru and has been proven for the last, I think, over 10 years. There's no risk in payment. The contract is very solid and very focused, as I said, in very few services, 6 clinical services scaled, you know. Yes, this will commence operation in the second semester of 2028. You know. I can't give numbers.
Jesús Zamora: They're easily discountable in the market. There is an implicit risk of public approval. There's no risk of payment. It's a system of public-private partnerships that works in Peru and has been proven for the last, I think, over 10 years. There's no risk in payment. The contract is very solid and very focused, as I said, in very few services, 6 clinical services scaled, you know. Yes, this will commence operation in the second semester of 2028. You know. I can't give numbers.
Speaker #3: It's a system of public , private , private public partnerships that works in Peru and has been proven for the last I think , over ten years .
Speaker #3: So there's no risk in there's no risk in payment . The contract is very solid and and very focused . As I said , in very few services , six services , six clinical services scaled , no .
Speaker #3: And and yes , this will commence operation in the second semester of 2028 . No . And I can't I can't I don't I can't give numbers and I think right now what we see is that central Treka will represent , you know , something like 20 , 25% of our business in .
Jesús Zamora: I think right now what we see is that Centro Ambulatorio Trecca will represent, you know, something like 20-25% of our business in Peru, you know, at maturity. You know, it is a significant business. More importantly, qualitatively, it's a segment in which we have not been there. People sometimes talk to me about, you know, the private sector in healthcare in Peru and the size of it. It's growing, but it's not growing as fast as the other segments, you know. This is a substantial new opportunity for Auna in a major scale, you know, serving the principal payer in Peru. It's a very important opportunity for Auna, no doubt.
Jesús Zamora: I think right now what we see is that Centro Ambulatorio Trecca will represent, you know, something like 20-25% of our business in Peru, you know, at maturity. You know, it is a significant business. More importantly, qualitatively, it's a segment in which we have not been there. People sometimes talk to me about, you know, the private sector in healthcare in Peru and the size of it. It's growing, but it's not growing as fast as the other segments, you know. This is a substantial new opportunity for Auna in a major scale, you know, serving the principal payer in Peru. It's a very important opportunity for Auna, no doubt.
Speaker #3: No , at maturity . So it is a significant business and and more importantly , qualitatively , it's a segment in which we have not been there .
Speaker #3: People , people sometimes I'm talking to me about , you know , the private sector in in healthcare in Peru and the size of it .
Speaker #3: And it's growing , but it's growing . It's not growing as fast as the other segments . But this is this is a substantial new opportunity for for Ona in a major scale .
Speaker #3: No serving the principle , no payer in Peru . So it's a very important opportunity for for owner , no doubt . I don't know if you want to add anything if I forgot , if I forgot any parts of the question .
Jesús Zamora: I don't know, Gisele, if you wanna add anything, if I forgot any parts of the question.
Jesús Zamora: I don't know, Gisele, if you wanna add anything, if I forgot any parts of the question.
Gisele Remy: No, Suso. I think it's very clear. I would just reinforce the point for the audience's benefit that the construction expenditures are reimbursed through progress certificates.
Speaker #4: No, I think it's very clear. I would just reinforce the point, for the audience's benefit, that the construction expenditures are reimbursed through progress certificates.
Gisele Remy: No, Suso. I think it's very clear. I would just reinforce the point for the audience's benefit that the construction expenditures are reimbursed through progress certificates.
Speaker #4: Yeah . Paid by Salud , which significantly reduces any capital risk that owner exposed to . So it's fully funded
Jesús Zamora: Yeah.
Jesús Zamora: Yeah.
Gisele Remy: Paid by EsSalud, which significantly reduces any capital risk that Auna is exposed to. It's fully funded.
Gisele Remy: Paid by EsSalud, which significantly reduces any capital risk that Auna is exposed to. It's fully funded.
Speaker #3: And and we're not the first public private partnership in Peru that has this system . So this is something we're taking on that works and has been working as I indicated before , for years .
Jesús Zamora: We're not the first public-private partnership in Peru that has this system. This is something we're taking on that works and has been working, as I indicated before, for years in Peru. Thank you.
Jesús Zamora: We're not the first public-private partnership in Peru that has this system. This is something we're taking on that works and has been working, as I indicated before, for years in Peru. Thank you.
Speaker #3: And Peru Thank you .
Speaker #7: Perfect . Thank you very much
Giovanni Vescovi: Perfect. Thanks very much.
Giovanni Vescovi: Perfect. Thanks very much.
Speaker #1: Thank you. There are no more questions from the phone lines, so I will now turn the call over to Anna Maria Mora from ONA, who will proceed with questions from the webcast platform.
Operator: Thank you. There are no more questions from the phone lines, so I will now turn the call over to Ana Maria Mora from Auna, who will proceed with questions from the webcast platform.
Operator: Thank you. There are no more questions from the phone lines, so I will now turn the call over to Ana Maria Mora from Auna, who will proceed with questions from the webcast platform.
Speaker #2: Thank you . Operator . Good morning everyone . Let me begin with the questions from the webcast . Some of them have already been answered .
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone. Let me begin with the questions from the webcast. Some of them have already been answered. I would still like to acknowledge them. In case Giselle and Suso would like to mention something else, regarding the questions, the answers, please, go ahead. Otherwise, I can move on. The first one is from Joaquín Riesco, and his question is: Can you guys please detail more into the Torre Trecca project? Financing, operating, what is your view there? The second one is related to Trecca as well. It comes from Julio Lam. He is a graduate from Universidad de Piura. Thanks for the presentation. I have a question related. If you have expected CapEx that you will invest in Torre Trecca this year and the next one.
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone. Let me begin with the questions from the webcast. Some of them have already been answered. I would still like to acknowledge them. In case Giselle and Suso would like to mention something else, regarding the questions, the answers, please, go ahead. Otherwise, I can move on. The first one is from Joaquín Riesco, and his question is: Can you guys please detail more into the Torre Trecca project? Financing, operating, what is your view there? The second one is related to Trecca as well. It comes from Julio Lam. He is a graduate from Universidad de Piura. Thanks for the presentation. I have a question related. If you have expected CapEx that you will invest in Torre Trecca this year and the next one.
Speaker #2: I would still like to acknowledge them . So the and in case you Talentos , I would like to mention something else regarding the questions .
Speaker #2: The answers please go ahead . Otherwise I can move on . So the first one is from Joaquin Riesco and his question is can you guys please more into the Treca project financing operating ?
Speaker #2: What is your view there? And the second one is related to track as well; it comes from Julio Lamb. He is a graduate from Universidad de Piura.
Speaker #2: Thanks for the presentation . I have a question related . If you have expected CapEx that you will invest in this year and the next ones , and if it exists , is it possible to watch it
Ana Maria Mora: If it exists, is it possible to watch it?
Ana Maria Mora: If it exists, is it possible to watch it?
Speaker #3: So maybe , maybe just just quickly to reiterate , given that there are two questions now , again , central , it's structured under a concession framework .
Jesús Zamora: Maybe just quickly to reiterate, given that there are two questions. Now, again, Centro Ambulatorio Trecca, it's structured under a concession framework. So predictable revenues, you know, supported by minimum guaranteed payments from EsSalud. You know, as Giselle said, the construction expenditures, they're all reimbursed by these progress certificates she mentioned. You know, this reduces capital risk, you know. This is very much related to the large unmet demand for outpatient services in Lima. We're taking a huge chunk of these unmet demand for outpatient services in Lima, you know. In a very de-risked way, you know. Of course, as we make progress, we'd be happy to share milestones that we're reaching. With respect to. If it exists, is it possible to watch it?
Jesús Zamora: Maybe just quickly to reiterate, given that there are two questions. Now, again, Centro Ambulatorio Trecca, it's structured under a concession framework. So predictable revenues, you know, supported by minimum guaranteed payments from EsSalud. You know, as Giselle said, the construction expenditures, they're all reimbursed by these progress certificates she mentioned. You know, this reduces capital risk, you know. This is very much related to the large unmet demand for outpatient services in Lima. We're taking a huge chunk of these unmet demand for outpatient services in Lima, you know. In a very de-risked way, you know. Of course, as we make progress, we'd be happy to share milestones that we're reaching. With respect to. If it exists, is it possible to watch it?
Speaker #3: So, predictable revenues are not supported by minimum guaranteed payments from Salud. As Jesus said, construction expenditures are reimbursed by these project certificates.
Speaker #3: She mentioned no , this reduces capital risk . No , this is very much related to the large unmet demand for outpatient services in Lima .
Speaker #3: So we're taking a huge chunk of these unmet demand for outpatient services in Lima . No . So and in a very de-risked way , no .
Speaker #3: Of course , as we make progress , we will be happy to share share the milestones that we're reaching . And with respect to .
Speaker #3: And if it exists , is it possible to watch it ? I mean , of course , it's a , it's a , it's a tower that exists already .
Jesús Zamora: I mean, of course, it's a tower that exists already. It hasn't been finished, and we will be refurbishing and finishing it. Yes, of course, and we'll make sure that we post some photographs and some images of the inside and outside of what as we progress, and maybe some virtual tours as well. Let's jot that one down, Annie, please. Thank you.
Jesús Zamora: I mean, of course, it's a tower that exists already. It hasn't been finished, and we will be refurbishing and finishing it. Yes, of course, and we'll make sure that we post some photographs and some images of the inside and outside of what as we progress, and maybe some virtual tours as well. Let's jot that one down, Annie, please. Thank you.
Speaker #3: It hasn't been finished . And we will be refrigerated refurbishing and finishing it . So yes , of course . And we'll make sure that we post some , some photographs and some images of the inside and outside of what as we progress and maybe some virtual tours as well .
Speaker #3: Let's jot that one down. Any, please. Thank you.
Speaker #2: Thank you . So , so the next question then would come from Christian Tessi . What is the expected CapEx for 2026 ? And for 2027 and 2028 ?
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Suso. The next question would come from Christian Tessey. What is the expected CapEx for 2026, and for 2027 and 2028? I recall you have mentioned an expansion of the business. What would be the expected CapEx there?
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Suso. The next question would come from Christian Tessey. What is the expected CapEx for 2026, and for 2027 and 2028? I recall you have mentioned an expansion of the business. What would be the expected CapEx there?
Speaker #2: I recall you have mentioned an expansion of the business . What would be their what would be the expected CapEx there ?
Speaker #4: Thank you . Annie . Yeah . So to to give you a little bit more color on on CapEx , as already mentioned , our guidance for the year is approximately 4% of revenues .
Gisele Remy: Thank you, Annie. Yeah. To give you a little bit more color on CapEx, as Suso already mentioned, our guidance for the year is approximately 4% of revenue. Very much in line with what we've seen in previous years. That CapEx will be allocated to maintenance investments, both across medical equipment as well as infrastructure. It also includes our technology investments as we continue with systems implementations across Mexico as well as Colombia, and the rest of our recurring CapEx investments. We're not giving any specific guidance further on into 2027 or 2028, but as was mentioned in the question, we should expect investment for the expansion of our Lima network to begin in 2027.
Gisele Remy: Thank you, Annie. Yeah. To give you a little bit more color on CapEx, as Suso already mentioned, our guidance for the year is approximately 4% of revenue. Very much in line with what we've seen in previous years. That CapEx will be allocated to maintenance investments, both across medical equipment as well as infrastructure. It also includes our technology investments as we continue with systems implementations across Mexico as well as Colombia, and the rest of our recurring CapEx investments. We're not giving any specific guidance further on into 2027 or 2028, but as was mentioned in the question, we should expect investment for the expansion of our Lima network to begin in 2027.
Speaker #4: So, very much in line with what we've seen in previous years. And that CapEx will be allocated to maintenance investments, both across medical equipment as well as infrastructure.
Speaker #4: It also includes our technology investments as we continue with systems implementations across Mexico, as well as Colombia, and the rest of our recurring CapEx investments.
Speaker #4: We're not giving any specific guidance further on into 27 or 28 , but as was mentioned in the question , we should expect investment for the expansion of our Lima network to begin in 2027 .
Gisele Remy: We will give the market more information into that as the year progresses.
Speaker #4: And we will give the market more information on that as the year progresses.
Gisele Remy: We will give the market more information into that as the year progresses.
Speaker #2: Thank you . Giselle .
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Giselle.
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Giselle.
Speaker #3: Maybe , maybe I need an important with respect to Jesus last comment . So Lima is is reaching high levels of occupancy , you know , and as we contend with that , we see ourselves considering certain options to expand the urban ecosystem , healthcare in Lima in 27 and 28 .
Jesús Zamora: Maybe, Annie, important with respect to Giselle's last comment. Lima is reaching high levels of occupancy, you know. As we continue with that, we see ourselves considering certain options to expand urban ecosystem healthcare in Lima in 2027 and 2028. Thank you.
Jesús Zamora: Maybe, Annie, important with respect to Giselle's last comment. Lima is reaching high levels of occupancy, you know. As we continue with that, we see ourselves considering certain options to expand urban ecosystem healthcare in Lima in 2027 and 2028. Thank you.
Speaker #3: Thank you
Speaker #2: Thank you . The next question comes from Christian Tessi when do you expect when do you expect to happen that Mexico total occupancy rate reached 40% ?
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Suso. The next question comes from Christian Tessey. When do you expect to happen that Mexico total occupancy rate reach 40%?
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Suso. The next question comes from Christian Tessey. When do you expect to happen that Mexico total occupancy rate reach 40%?
Speaker #3: Yeah, thank you very much for that question. So, as I mentioned in a previous answer, I believe we're already at 41%.
Jesús Zamora: Yeah. Thank you very much for that question. As I mentioned, in a previous answer, I believe we're already at 41%. We're already at 41%. I've seen certain days, especially in Doctors Hospital, our main higher complexity facility in Monterrey, at much higher rates of that. Again, I'm optimistic. We are already above 40, we're at 41%, and we continue to see some potential for growing that, of course, during the whole year.
Jesús Zamora: Yeah. Thank you very much for that question. As I mentioned, in a previous answer, I believe we're already at 41%. We're already at 41%. I've seen certain days, especially in Doctors Hospital, our main higher complexity facility in Monterrey, at much higher rates of that. Again, I'm optimistic. We are already above 40, we're at 41%, and we continue to see some potential for growing that, of course, during the whole year.
Speaker #3: And we're already at 41% . I've certain days , especially in doctor's Hospital , our main higher complexity facility in Monterrey at a much higher rates of that .
Speaker #3: So again , I'm optimistic . We are already above 40 . We're at 41% . And we continue to see some potential for growing that .
Speaker #3: Of course, during the whole year.
Speaker #2: Thank you . So the next question comes from Gerald Ford . Hi . Regarding Colombia , what conditions are required for provisions to be reversed ?
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Suso. The next question comes from Gerard Ford. Hi. Regarding Colombia, what conditions are required for provisions to be reversed? Could this materialize beginning in first half of 2026?
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Suso. The next question comes from Gerard Ford. Hi. Regarding Colombia, what conditions are required for provisions to be reversed? Could this materialize beginning in first half of 2026?
Speaker #2: Could this materialize ? Beginning in first half of 2026 ?
Speaker #4: Thank you , Gerald , for for the question . As we've previously mentioned , the market , our provisions are based on an expected loss model , and that is the case for all three of the geographies .
Gisele Remy: Thank you, Gerard, for the question. As we've previously mentioned to the market, our provisions are based on an expected loss model, and that is the case for all three of the geographies. Specifically in the case of Colombia, within that expected loss model, there is separated methodology for the intervened entities. We continue to provision according to the expected loss model. We think that even though this does not reflect a view on that we will not be able to collect on those accounts, it does permit us to de-risk the balance sheet and de-risk future results. We do not expect to have any reversions in impairments of accounts receivable in the first half of 2026.
Gisele Remy: Thank you, Gerard, for the question. As we've previously mentioned to the market, our provisions are based on an expected loss model, and that is the case for all three of the geographies. Specifically in the case of Colombia, within that expected loss model, there is separated methodology for the intervened entities. We continue to provision according to the expected loss model. We think that even though this does not reflect a view on that we will not be able to collect on those accounts, it does permit us to de-risk the balance sheet and de-risk future results. We do not expect to have any reversions in impairments of accounts receivable in the first half of 2026.
Speaker #4: Specifically , in the case of Colombia , within that expected loss model , there is separated methodology for the intervened entities . We continue to provision according to the expected loss model .
Speaker #4: And we think that even though this does not reflect a view on that, we will not be able to collect on those accounts.
Speaker #4: It does permit us to de-risk the balance sheet and de-risk future results. We do not expect to have any reversions in impairments of accounts receivable in the first half of 2026.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Jesus. The next question comes from Alexander Louis, and also I'm going to bundle that with the question from Timo Tarrago.
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Giselle. The next question comes from Alexander Lewis, and also I'm gonna bundle that with the question from Demo Tárrago, and this relates to the Sojitz MOU. Can you provide any update on the Sojitz MOU?
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Giselle. The next question comes from Alexander Lewis, and also I'm gonna bundle that with the question from Demo Tárrago, and this relates to the Sojitz MOU. Can you provide any update on the Sojitz MOU?
Speaker #2: And this relates to the Sojitz MoU. Can you provide any update on the Sojitz MoU?
Speaker #3: Great. Well, we actually have been meeting in the last few weeks in Mexico and elsewhere with Sojitz on various alternatives.
Jesús Zamora: Great. Well, we actually have been meeting in the last few weeks in Mexico and elsewhere with Sojitz on various alternatives. I think we're not ready to inform anything to the market, but I think we're getting traction there. I do think that we need to focus in the future, as we have in the past, to grow inorganically. Sojitz is offering an attractive, you know, potential, you know, capital increase in that will sustain our growth in Mexico in particular. We'll bring that back, but it is related to Mexico and how to allocate more dollars to Mexico and grow Mexico.
Jesús Zamora: Great. Well, we actually have been meeting in the last few weeks in Mexico and elsewhere with Sojitz on various alternatives. I think we're not ready to inform anything to the market, but I think we're getting traction there. I do think that we need to focus in the future, as we have in the past, to grow inorganically. Sojitz is offering an attractive, you know, potential, you know, capital increase in that will sustain our growth in Mexico in particular. We'll bring that back, but it is related to Mexico and how to allocate more dollars to Mexico and grow Mexico.
Speaker #3: I think we're not ready to inform anything to the market , but but I think we're getting traction there I do think that we need to focus in the future , as we have in the past , to to grow inorganically and Sojitz is is offering a attractive , you know , potential , you know , capital increase in that will sustain our growth in Mexico in particular .
Speaker #3: So we'll bring that back . But it is related to Mexico and had to allocate more dollars to Mexico and grow Mexico . Well , and once we have it a little more built and defined , we definitely bring it back to the investor community And question on I don't know , I think that's the situation there any anything else .
Jesús Zamora: Well, once we have it a little more built and defined with Sojitz, we'll definitely bring it back to the investor community. That would be Demo Tárrago's question on Sojitz. I don't know, Giselle. I think that's the situation there. Anything else?
Jesús Zamora: Well, once we have it a little more built and defined with Sojitz, we'll definitely bring it back to the investor community. That would be Demo Tárrago's question on Sojitz. I don't know, Giselle. I think that's the situation there. Anything else?
Speaker #4: Correct. No, nothing to add on my own.
Gisele Remy: Correct. No, nothing to add on my end.
Gisele Remy: Correct. No, nothing to add on my end.
Speaker #3: Okay. Thank you, Tamara.
Jesús Zamora: Okay.
Jesús Zamora: Okay.
Ana Maria Mora: Okay.
Ana Maria Mora: Okay.
Jesús Zamora: Thank you, Demo.
Jesús Zamora: Thank you, Demo.
Ana Maria Mora: Moving along. The next question comes from Antonio Cardoso, and it relates to our debt. What's the all-in cost of debt after the refinancing?
Speaker #2: So, moving along, the next question comes from Antonio Cardoso and it relates to our debt. So, what's the all-in cost of debt?
Ana Maria Mora: Moving along. The next question comes from Antonio Cardoso, and it relates to our debt. What's the all-in cost of debt after the refinancing?
Speaker #2: After the refinancing
Speaker #4: Okay . For that question , first of all , it's important to note that we , you know , after the refinancing exercise , which we executed last year , we increased the proportion of direct local currency funding , which now leaves us , as was mentioned during the call with 56% of our total debt in local currency , direct local currency funding , and the remaining 44% of the debt is in US dollar denominated debt .
Gisele Remy: Thank you for that question. First of all, it's important to note that, we, you know, after the refinancing exercise, which we executed in last year, we increased the proportion of direct local currency funding, which now leaves us, as was mentioned during the call, with 56% of our total debt in direct local currency funding. The remaining 44% of the debt is in US dollar denominated debt. However, that US dollar denominated debt is 85% hedged to the Peruvian sol via derivatives. As you will recall, our all-in rate, which again, obviously reflects, a mix of currencies and where rates are in each one of the three geographies. Our blended rate, in 2025 was closer to approximately 12.5% with the old debt structure.
Gisele Remy: Thank you for that question. First of all, it's important to note that, we, you know, after the refinancing exercise, which we executed in last year, we increased the proportion of direct local currency funding, which now leaves us, as was mentioned during the call, with 56% of our total debt in direct local currency funding. The remaining 44% of the debt is in US dollar denominated debt. However, that US dollar denominated debt is 85% hedged to the Peruvian sol via derivatives. As you will recall, our all-in rate, which again, obviously reflects, a mix of currencies and where rates are in each one of the three geographies. Our blended rate, in 2025 was closer to approximately 12.5% with the old debt structure.
Speaker #4: However , that US dollar denominated debt is 85% hedged to the Peruvian soil via derivatives , as you will recall , our all in rate , which again obviously reflects a mix of currencies and where those where rates are in each one of the three geographies .
Speaker #4: Our blended rate in 2025 was closer to approximately 12.5% , with the old debt structure , and as a product of the refinancing and now also including the new derivatives which have been put in place to hedge the new debt structure , that that rate has dropped over 100 basis points .
Gisele Remy: As a product of the refinancing, and now also including the new derivatives, which have been put in place to hedge the new debt structure, that rate has dropped over 100 basis points. That's from a blended perspective, including all of our debt, both short and long-term.
Gisele Remy: As a product of the refinancing, and now also including the new derivatives, which have been put in place to hedge the new debt structure, that rate has dropped over 100 basis points. That's from a blended perspective, including all of our debt, both short and long-term.
Speaker #4: And that's from a blended perspective , including all of our debt of both short and long term
Speaker #3: Thank you . Jason .
Jesús Zamora: Thank you, Giselle.
Jesús Zamora: Thank you, Giselle.
Speaker #2: Thank you Jacob . The next question comes from Facundo Turconi , and it's also related to to cash flow . Facundo Turconi says congratulations on the strong 2025 finish .
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Giselle. The next question comes from Facundo Turconi, and it's also related to cash flow. Facundo Turconi says, "Congratulations on the strong 2025 finish. Now that the company has officially reached a positive free cash flow inflection point and is guiding for $45 million in free cash flow for 2026, how is the board prioritizing capital allocation? Specifically, given that the stock is trading significantly below its book value, is there any internal discussion regarding a share buyback program once the leverage ratio hits the 3x target?
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Giselle. The next question comes from Facundo Turconi, and it's also related to cash flow. Facundo Turconi says, "Congratulations on the strong 2025 finish. Now that the company has officially reached a positive free cash flow inflection point and is guiding for $45 million in free cash flow for 2026, how is the board prioritizing capital allocation? Specifically, given that the stock is trading significantly below its book value, is there any internal discussion regarding a share buyback program once the leverage ratio hits the 3x target?
Speaker #2: Now that the company has officially reached a positive free cash flow inflection point and is guiding for $45 million in free cash flow for 2026, how is the board prioritizing capital allocation specifically, given that the stock is trading significantly below its book value?
Speaker #2: Is there any internal discussion regarding a share buyback program ? Once the leverage ratio hits the three target
Speaker #3: That's a good , good question . Facundo , and thank you for that I don't have a precise answer , but at the board we've been discussing no , the best use of of our of capital in a different alternative allocations that we have no , I think it's it's important to note that I think we mentioned in the earnings release we've had the stock has underperformed dramatically .
Jesús Zamora: That's a good question, Facundo, and thank you for that. I don't have a precise answer, but at the board, we've been discussing, you know, the best use of our capital in the different alternative allocations that we have. No? I think it's important to note that I think we mentioned in the earnings release, we've had the stock has underperformed dramatically, we believe, because of the selling pressure from a very large shareholder that now is officially no longer a shareholder, has sold all their position.
Jesús Zamora: That's a good question, Facundo, and thank you for that. I don't have a precise answer, but at the board, we've been discussing, you know, the best use of our capital in the different alternative allocations that we have. No? I think it's important to note that I think we mentioned in the earnings release, we've had the stock has underperformed dramatically, we believe, because of the selling pressure from a very large shareholder that now is officially no longer a shareholder, has sold all their position.
Speaker #3: We believe because of because of the selling pressure from a very large shareholder that now is officially no longer a shareholder , has sold them all their position .
Speaker #3: No . So we believe that the share , given that there's no , you know , significant selling pressure from anybody , I think the stock will will trade much better and closer to its book value .
Jesús Zamora: You know, so we believe that the share, given that there's no, you know, significant selling pressure from anybody, I think the stock will trade much better and closer to, its book value, certainly, you know. To be clear, the board has discussed, has analyzed, you know, share buyback programs. We think that given that, the selling pressure has been solved, I'm not certain it would be a high priority. I think a higher priority would be to use the balance sheet once it's below three, to continue to grow at, you know, the rates that we've grown in the past, particularly in Mexico. In Mexico, we have a very rich pipeline of growth opportunities, high complexity, higher margin opportunities.
Jesús Zamora: You know, so we believe that the share, given that there's no, you know, significant selling pressure from anybody, I think the stock will trade much better and closer to, its book value, certainly, you know. To be clear, the board has discussed, has analyzed, you know, share buyback programs. We think that given that, the selling pressure has been solved, I'm not certain it would be a high priority. I think a higher priority would be to use the balance sheet once it's below three, to continue to grow at, you know, the rates that we've grown in the past, particularly in Mexico. In Mexico, we have a very rich pipeline of growth opportunities, high complexity, higher margin opportunities.
Speaker #3: Certainly no. But to be clear, the board has discussed, has analyzed, no share buyback programs. We think that given that this selling pressure has been solved, I'm not certain it would be a high priority.
Speaker #3: I think a higher priority would be to use the balance sheet once it's in below three , to continue to grow at the rates that we've grown in the past , particularly in Mexico and Mexico , we have a very rich pipeline of growth opportunities , high complexity , higher margin , higher higher margin opportunities .
Speaker #3: That's where we need to put the money to produce. I believe more appreciation in the stock price. Would you like to compliment my response?
Jesús Zamora: That's where we need to put the money to produce, I believe, more appreciation in the stock price. Would you like to, Giselle, complement my response?
Jesús Zamora: That's where we need to put the money to produce, I believe, more appreciation in the stock price. Would you like to, Giselle, complement my response?
Speaker #4: Yeah , just to compliment Suso on the first part of the question , with reference to free cash flow and what our expectations are .
Gisele Remy: Yeah. Just to complement Suso on the first part of the question with reference to free cash flow and what our expectations are. While we have not specifically given any guidance related to free cash flow, as Suso already mentioned, we've given strong guidance with reference to revenues and EBITDA growth, which will obviously have a direct impact in free cash flow generation in 2026. Additional to this, as we continue our disciplined working capital management, as well as I already mentioned, around the CapEx numbers, which in 2026 will continue to be close to historical levels and limited to maintenance and IT investments. We expect to see growth in free cash flow, also in line with what we're guiding for revenues and EBITDA.
Gisele Remy: Yeah. Just to complement Suso on the first part of the question with reference to free cash flow and what our expectations are. While we have not specifically given any guidance related to free cash flow, as Suso already mentioned, we've given strong guidance with reference to revenues and EBITDA growth, which will obviously have a direct impact in free cash flow generation in 2026. Additional to this, as we continue our disciplined working capital management, as well as I already mentioned, around the CapEx numbers, which in 2026 will continue to be close to historical levels and limited to maintenance and IT investments. We expect to see growth in free cash flow, also in line with what we're guiding for revenues and EBITDA.
Speaker #4: While we have not specifically given any guidance related to to free cash flow as already mentioned , we've given strong guidance with reference to revenues and EBITDA growth , which will obviously have a direct impact in free cash flow generation in in 2026 and additional to this , as we continue our disciplined working capital management as well as I already mentioned around the CapEx numbers , which in 2026 will continue to be close to historical levels and limited to maintenance .
Speaker #4: And in IT investments, we expect to see growth in free cash flow also in line with what we're guiding for, for revenues and EBITDA.
Speaker #4: And given that, as I already mentioned, we've materially reduced interest expense, this does generate a virtuous cycle as far as deleveraging.
Gisele Remy: Given that, as I already mentioned, we've materially reduced interest expense, this does generate a virtuous cycle as far as deleveraging. I do wanna emphasize the point that the company already showed in 2025 that we were able to generate cash flow after interest payments, and this will only grow going into 2026, permitting us to continue to delever and get closer to that 3x net debt to EBITDA target.
Gisele Remy: Given that, as I already mentioned, we've materially reduced interest expense, this does generate a virtuous cycle as far as deleveraging. I do wanna emphasize the point that the company already showed in 2025 that we were able to generate cash flow after interest payments, and this will only grow going into 2026, permitting us to continue to delever and get closer to that 3x net debt to EBITDA target.
Speaker #4: So I do want to emphasize the point that the company already showed in 2025 that we were able to generate free cash flow , generate cash flow after interest payments , and this will only grow going into 2026 , permitting us to continue to deliver and get closer to that three times net debt to EBITDA target
Speaker #2: Thank you . Gita .
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Gisele.
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Gisele.
Speaker #3: Thank you .
Jesús Zamora: Thank you, Giselle.
Jesús Zamora: Thank you, Giselle.
Ana Maria Mora: The next question comes from Joaquin Barrow. Hello, thank you for this question. How are you planning the ramp-up in occupancy in Mexico and the margins to come back up to 30%? What is the normalized level of occupancy you're looking for in 2026? Thank you.
Speaker #2: Okay , the next question comes from give me one second here . The next question comes from Joaquin Berro . Hello . Thank you for for this question .
Ana Maria Mora: The next question comes from Joaquin Barrow. Hello, thank you for this question. How are you planning the ramp-up in occupancy in Mexico and the margins to come back up to 30%? What is the normalized level of occupancy you're looking for in 2026? Thank you.
Speaker #2: How are you planning the ramp-up in occupancy in Mexico, and the margins to come back up to 30%? What is the normalized level of occupancy you are looking for in 2026?
Speaker #2: Thank you
Speaker #3: Okay . Thank you . Joaquin . So these two levers of of occupancy and margins , we we managed particularly through mix higher complexity mix no , of course one can fill a hospital much faster .
Jesús Zamora: Okay. Thank you, Joaquín. These two levers of occupancy and margins we manage particularly through mix, higher complexity mix. Of course, one can fill a hospital much faster, but with much lower margins. We're very careful with that. To fill a hospital and to maintain higher margins means to have a higher mix of higher complexity. That's how we plan to manage the ramp-up of occupancy in Mexico and, of course, the recovery of the margins. I think very importantly, I do wanna say volume and volume growth is the foundation on which everything else comes, even higher complexity and margin, of course.
Jesús Zamora: Okay. Thank you, Joaquín. These two levers of occupancy and margins we manage particularly through mix, higher complexity mix. Of course, one can fill a hospital much faster, but with much lower margins. We're very careful with that. To fill a hospital and to maintain higher margins means to have a higher mix of higher complexity. That's how we plan to manage the ramp-up of occupancy in Mexico and, of course, the recovery of the margins. I think very importantly, I do wanna say volume and volume growth is the foundation on which everything else comes, even higher complexity and margin, of course.
Speaker #3: But with much lower margins . So we're very careful with that . But to fill hospital and to maintain higher margins means to have a higher mix of higher complexity .
Speaker #3: And that's how we we plan to manage them . The ramp up of occupancy in Mexico and of course , the recovery of the margins , I think very importantly , I do want to say volume and volume growth is a foundation which everything else comes even higher complexity margins , of course , so being in these much larger healthcare plans throughout Monterrey gives us a , a huge improvement in the total addressable market with respect to the private policies that will produce volume growth , you know , and and then the mix will produce the margin recovery .
Jesús Zamora: Being in these much larger healthcare plans throughout Monterrey gives us a huge improvement in the total addressable market, you know, with respect to the private policies. You know, that will produce volume growth, you know, and then the mix will produce the margin recovery. We have a very clear plan for 2026 to recover at least a couple of points of the margin contraction that we have implemented to make sure that we have a growing volume of all our services and treatments in our hospital network. I don't think we're giving guidance on the occupancy level, Giselle. I definitely think that 41% that we have today is a really good base.
Jesús Zamora: Being in these much larger healthcare plans throughout Monterrey gives us a huge improvement in the total addressable market, you know, with respect to the private policies. You know, that will produce volume growth, you know, and then the mix will produce the margin recovery. We have a very clear plan for 2026 to recover at least a couple of points of the margin contraction that we have implemented to make sure that we have a growing volume of all our services and treatments in our hospital network. I don't think we're giving guidance on the occupancy level, Giselle. I definitely think that 41% that we have today is a really good base.
Speaker #3: No , we we have a very clear plan for 2026 to recover at least a couple of points of the margin contraction that we've that we have implemented to make sure that we are we have a growing volume of our of all our services and treatments in our hospital network So I don't think we're giving guidance on the occupancy level .
Speaker #3: I definitely think that 4,041% that we have today is a really good base. We're going to be growing that—we're definitely going to be growing.
Jesús Zamora: We're gonna be growing that. We're definitely gonna be growing that. I don't know, Giselle, should we comment on the occupancy in Mexico?
Jesús Zamora: We're gonna be growing that. We're definitely gonna be growing that. I don't know, Giselle, should we comment on the occupancy in Mexico?
Speaker #3: Then I don't know , should we comment on occupancy in Mexico ?
Gisele Remy: I would simply add, Suso, both from an occupancy as well as a margin perspective. I would like to remind the market, as Suso already said, that we have successfully been awarded the extension for the ISSSTE León Healthcare Plan with very improved economics.
Speaker #4: I would I would simply add both from an occupancy as well as a margin perspective . I would like to remind the market , as already said , that we have successfully been awarded .
Gisele Remy: I would simply add, Suso, both from an occupancy as well as a margin perspective. I would like to remind the market, as Suso already said, that we have successfully been awarded the extension for the ISSSTE León Healthcare Plan with very improved economics.
Speaker #4: The extension for the Leone Healthcare Plan with very improved economics .
Speaker #9: It's 6:00 .
Ana Maria Mora: It's 6:00.
Ana Maria Mora: It's 6:00.
Speaker #4: We are starting the year with preferred provider status with two major insurers. Cost containment strategies have been an integral part of the discussion with payers to secure the preferred provider status, and this will have a direct impact on the increase of volumes in 2026, as well as margin gains.
Gisele Remy: We are starting the year with preferred provider status with two major insurers. Cost containment strategies have been an integral part of the discussion with payers to secure the preferred provider status, and this will have a direct impact on the increase of volumes in 2026, as well as margin gains. Finally, as Suso already mentioned, in the first two months of 2026, we have continued to see growth across several services, and utilization as well as the cost base stabilizing. Therefore, we expect to gradually recover during 2026.
Gisele Remy: We are starting the year with preferred provider status with two major insurers. Cost containment strategies have been an integral part of the discussion with payers to secure the preferred provider status, and this will have a direct impact on the increase of volumes in 2026, as well as margin gains. Finally, as Suso already mentioned, in the first two months of 2026, we have continued to see growth across several services, and utilization as well as the cost base stabilizing. Therefore, we expect to gradually recover during 2026.
Speaker #4: And finally , as already mentioned , in the first few months of 2026 , we have continued to see growth across several services and utilization .
Speaker #10: Of long .
Speaker #4: As well as the cost base stabilizing . So therefore , we expect to gradually recover during during 2026 .
Speaker #3: Great
Jesús Zamora: Great.
Jesús Zamora: Great.
Speaker #2: Thank you Jesus . The next question comes from Constanza Urmeneta . Could you please detail how is the her year in Mexico in the Q4 and how this plant extension will be in improvement for 2026 ?
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Jesús. The next question comes from Constanza Urmeneta. Could you please detail how ISSSTE hurt your performance in Mexico in Q4, and how this planned expansion will be an improvement for 2026?
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Jesús. The next question comes from Constanza Urmeneta. Could you please detail how ISSSTE hurt your performance in Mexico in Q4, and how this planned expansion will be an improvement for 2026?
Speaker #3: Great . Thank you . Constanza . So basically , the improvement on the on the award of the contract for 2026 is related to , first of all , we increased prices 30% and we and we included the agreement that we control the the pharma and the device prescription in .
Jesús Zamora: Great. Thank you, Constanza Urmeneta. Basically the improvement on the award of the ISSSTE contract for 2026 is related to, first of all, we increased prices 30%. And we included the agreement that we control the pharma and the device and prescription. That's critical for cost containment and of course, for the increases in prices for margin, for better margins, no? The end of the quarter on this award, on the previous award of 2025, was mainly affected by higher complexity, you know, volume in that award. You know, that of course reduced the margins, but at a set price that was set in 2025. Of course, it reduced the margins.
Jesús Zamora: Great. Thank you, Constanza Urmeneta. Basically the improvement on the award of the ISSSTE contract for 2026 is related to, first of all, we increased prices 30%. And we included the agreement that we control the pharma and the device and prescription. That's critical for cost containment and of course, for the increases in prices for margin, for better margins, no? The end of the quarter on this award, on the previous award of 2025, was mainly affected by higher complexity, you know, volume in that award. You know, that of course reduced the margins, but at a set price that was set in 2025. Of course, it reduced the margins.
Speaker #3: And that's critical for cost containment . And of course , for the increases in prices for margin , for better margins . Now , the end of the quarter on this on this award , on the previous award of 2025 .
Speaker #3: Was mainly affected by higher complexity . You know , volume in in that , in that award , you know , that , of course , reduced margins .
Speaker #3: But at a set price that was set in 2025 . Of course , it reduced margins . So I think the 30% more than covers , you know , a very healthy margin for us with a large insurer , indirect insurer .
Jesús Zamora: I think the 30% more than covers, you know, a very healthy margin for us with a large, indirect insurer, you said earlier. We're very excited about what has occurred and our relationship with ISSSTE León is every day much more intimate and much more. The NPS we're getting from the beneficiaries of ISSSTE León is very positive. I think that's gonna be a growing contract in the future, a growing award in the future.
Jesús Zamora: I think the 30% more than covers, you know, a very healthy margin for us with a large, indirect insurer, you said earlier. We're very excited about what has occurred and our relationship with ISSSTE León is every day much more intimate and much more. The NPS we're getting from the beneficiaries of ISSSTE León is very positive. I think that's gonna be a growing contract in the future, a growing award in the future.
Speaker #3: So we're very excited about what has occurred . And and our relationship with them . Alone is every day . I'm much more intimate and much more .
Speaker #3: And and the NPS we're getting from , from the , the beneficiaries is very positive . I think that's going to be a growing contract in the future , a growing award in the future
Speaker #2: Thank you . Suso . We only have time for 1 or 2 more questions . I realize the time is up , so the next question comes from Joaquim Baro .
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Suso. We only have time for one or two more questions. I realize the time is up. The next question comes from Joaquin Barrow. I've noticed high impairment losses on trade receivables, not only in Colombia but in Peru. Can you give us more color in this? Thank you.
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Suso. We only have time for one or two more questions. I realize the time is up. The next question comes from Joaquin Barrow. I've noticed high impairment losses on trade receivables, not only in Colombia but in Peru. Can you give us more color in this? Thank you.
Speaker #2: I've noticed how impairment losses on trade receivables , not only in Colombia , but in Peru . Can you give us more color on this ?
Speaker #2: Thank you
Speaker #4: Yes . Thank you for the question , Joaquin . I think we talked a little bit about the impairment losses in Colombia in the previous question .
Gisele Remy: Yes. Thank you for the question, Joaquín. I think we talked a little bit about the impairment losses in Colombia in the previous question, so I'll address the ones in Peru. The first thing I'd like to highlight is that it's very important to note that accounts receivable days in Peru have improved in the Q3 and Q4 of 2025, and we expect to continue on that trend during 2026 as a product of several process and systems initiatives which we are rolling out specifically in the accounts receivable cycle. The higher impairment in the case of Peru in 2025 is more related to specific conciliations with some payers from previous years, right?
Gisele Remy: Yes. Thank you for the question, Joaquín. I think we talked a little bit about the impairment losses in Colombia in the previous question, so I'll address the ones in Peru. The first thing I'd like to highlight is that it's very important to note that accounts receivable days in Peru have improved in the Q3 and Q4 of 2025, and we expect to continue on that trend during 2026 as a product of several process and systems initiatives which we are rolling out specifically in the accounts receivable cycle. The higher impairment in the case of Peru in 2025 is more related to specific conciliations with some payers from previous years, right?
Speaker #4: So I'll address the ones in Peru . The first thing I'd like to highlight is that it's very important to note that accounts receivable days in Peru have improved in the third and fourth quarter of 2025 , and we expect to continue on that trend during 2026 .
Speaker #4: As a product of several process and systems initiatives , which we are rolling out specifically in the accounts receivable cycle , the higher impairment in the case of Peru in 2025 is more related to specific , specific conciliations , with some payers from previous years related to services around , 2024 , where we have , you know , had some specific negotiations related to those specific services , especially as a product of , you know , technology changes that have occurred in the insurance companies as well as on our end , which led to a lag in recovering those accounts .
Gisele Remy: Related to services, around, you know, 2024, where we have, you know, had some specific negotiations, related to those specific services, especially as a product of, you know, technology changes that have occurred in the insurance companies as well as on our end, which led to a lag in recovering those accounts. That's what impacted the impairment impact in Peru, specifically in 2025. It's a much more isolated effect, and we will be basically working on those reconciliation impacts, during the quarters of 2026. We should not expect to see impairment increase versus the 2020 to 2025 levels.
Gisele Remy: Related to services, around, you know, 2024, where we have, you know, had some specific negotiations, related to those specific services, especially as a product of, you know, technology changes that have occurred in the insurance companies as well as on our end, which led to a lag in recovering those accounts. That's what impacted the impairment impact in Peru, specifically in 2025. It's a much more isolated effect, and we will be basically working on those reconciliation impacts, during the quarters of 2026. We should not expect to see impairment increase versus the 2020 to 2025 levels.
Speaker #4: And that's what impacted the the impairment impact in Peru , specifically in in 2025 . It's a much more isolated effect . And we will be basically working on those conciliation impacts during the quarters of 2026 .
Speaker #4: We should not expect to see impairment increase versus the 2025 levels.
Speaker #2: Thank you . And I do think we have time one more question and this question comes from César Piedra , Peru continues to be the main growth driver for the group .
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Jesús. I do think we have time for one more question. This question comes from Cesar Huiman. Peru continues to be the main growth driver for the group. How much of that performance do you see as structural versus temporary, whether for pricing mix, ramp-up effects, or unusually favorable conditions?
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Jesús. I do think we have time for one more question. This question comes from Cesar Huiman. Peru continues to be the main growth driver for the group. How much of that performance do you see as structural versus temporary, whether for pricing mix, ramp-up effects, or unusually favorable conditions?
Speaker #2: How much of that performance do you see as a structural versus temporary ? Whether for pricing mix , ramp up effects or unusually favorable conditions
Speaker #3: So I feel I'm very comfortable in representing that Peru is a very solid and consistent part of our own, you know, so it's very predictable for us.
Jesús Zamora: I feel very comfortable in representing that Peru is a very solid and consistent part of Auna, you know, and very predictable for us. It's difficult for me to put Peru's performance with temporary or any unusual considerations. I think Peru works pretty much like clockwork, you know, with a model that's very mature, with brands and the medical staff is very well known. Our integrated insurance business we manage for an MLR, you know. Again, that proves there's a lot of predictability. No, besides some upside from Trecca and some other things in the future, I think it's a very stable operation with very few risk for surprises of any sort.
Jesús Zamora: I feel very comfortable in representing that Peru is a very solid and consistent part of Auna, you know, and very predictable for us. It's difficult for me to put Peru's performance with temporary or any unusual considerations. I think Peru works pretty much like clockwork, you know, with a model that's very mature, with brands and the medical staff is very well known. Our integrated insurance business we manage for an MLR, you know. Again, that proves there's a lot of predictability. No, besides some upside from Trecca and some other things in the future, I think it's a very stable operation with very few risk for surprises of any sort.
Speaker #3: So It's difficult for me to to put Peru and performance with temporary or , or any , you know , unusual considerations . I think Peru works pretty much like clockwork .
Speaker #3: You know , with a model that's very mature , with brands and a medical staff that's very well known and our , integrated insurance business , we manage for an MLR , you know , and again , that produces a lot of predictability .
Speaker #3: So , so no , besides some upside from Trek and some other things in the future , I think it's a very stable operation with very few risk for surprises of any sort
Speaker #2: Thank you . So-so this was our time for for questions . And now I will leave it to you for your closing remarks
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Suso. This was our time for questions. Now I will leave it to you for your closing remarks.
Ana Maria Mora: Thank you, Suso. This was our time for questions. Now I will leave it to you for your closing remarks.
Speaker #3: Well , thank you very much , everybody . We know it's been a difficult year for in 2020 , 2025 for for Oana , we've done the work .
Jesús Zamora: Well, thank you very much, everybody. We know it's been a difficult year for 2021, 2025 for Auna. We've done the work. It's been a year of introspection. It's been a year of a lot of internal work. We have built the foundations for continued and recovered growth for 2026 and onwards. I wanna thank the investing community for supporting us and our mandate to transform healthcare in Latin America. Thank you again.
Jesús Zamora: Well, thank you very much, everybody. We know it's been a difficult year for 2021, 2025 for Auna. We've done the work. It's been a year of introspection. It's been a year of a lot of internal work. We have built the foundations for continued and recovered growth for 2026 and onwards. I wanna thank the investing community for supporting us and our mandate to transform healthcare in Latin America. Thank you again.
Speaker #3: It's been a year of introspection . It's been a year of a lot of internal work . We have built the foundations for for continued and recovered growth for 2026 and onwards .
Speaker #3: I want to thank the investment community for supporting us and our mandate to transform healthcare in Latin America. Thank you again.
Operator: This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect. Goodbye.
Operator: This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect. Goodbye.