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Q3 2026 Universal Corp Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Thank you for standing by. My name is Jordan, and I'll be a conference operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to the Universal Corp Q3 2026 earnings call.
Operator: Thank you for standing by. My name is Jordan, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to the Universal Corporation Q3 Fiscal Year 2026 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you'd like to ask a question during this time, simply press Star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad, and if you'd like to withdraw your question, press Star one again. Thank you. I'd now like to turn the call over to Wushuang Ma, Vice President and Treasurer. You may begin.
Operator: Thank you for standing by. My name is Jordan, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to the Universal Corporation Q3 Fiscal Year 2026 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you'd like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad, and if you'd like to withdraw your question, press Star one again. Thank you. I'd now like to turn the call over to Wushuang Ma, Vice President and Treasurer. You may begin.
Speaker #1: All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. If you'd like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad, and if you'd like to withdraw your question, press star 1 again.
Speaker #1: Thank you. I'd now like to turn the call over to Wushuang, Vice President and Treasurer. You may begin.
Speaker #2: Good evening, and thank you for joining us. With me today are Preston Wigner, our Chairman, President, and CEO, and Johan Kroner, our Chief Financial Officer.
Wushuang Ma: Good evening, and thank you for joining us. With me today are Preston D. Wigner, our Chairman, President, and CEO, and Johan C. Kroner, our Chief Financial Officer. During the course of this call, we will be making forward-looking statements that are based on our current knowledge and some assumptions about the future. These are representative as of today only. Actual results, performance, or achievements could differ materially from anticipated results, prospects, performance, or achievements expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements, but we assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements except as required by law. For information on some of the risks and uncertainties related to these forward-looking statements, please refer to the report we filed with the SEC and under cautionary statements regarding forward-looking statements in our current earnings press release.
Wushuang Ma: Good evening, and thank you for joining us. With me today are Preston D. Wigner, our Chairman, President, and CEO, and Johan C. Kroner, our Chief Financial Officer. During the course of this call, we will be making forward-looking statements that are based on our current knowledge and some assumptions about the future. These are representative as of today only. Actual results, performance, or achievements could differ materially from anticipated results, prospects, performance, or achievements expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements, but we assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements except as required by law. For information on some of the risks and uncertainties related to these forward-looking statements, please refer to the report we filed with the SEC and under cautionary statements regarding forward-looking statements in our current earnings press release.
Speaker #2: During the course of this call, we will be making forward-looking statements that are based on our current knowledge and some assumptions about the future.
Speaker #2: These are representative as of today only. Actual results, performance, or achievements could differ materially from anticipated results, prospects, performance, or achievements expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements.
Speaker #2: And we assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements, except as required by law. For information on some of the risks and uncertainties related to these forward-looking statements, please refer to the report we file with ICC and under 'Cautionary Statements Regarding Forward-Looking Statements' in our current earnings press release.
Speaker #2: Finally, some of the information we have for you today may be based on unaudited allocations and may be subject to reclassification. Our comments today may also include certain non-GAAP financial measures.
Wushuang Ma: Finally, some of the information we have for you today may be based on unaudited allocations and may be subject to reclassification. Our comments today may also include certain non-GAAP financial measures. For details regarding those measures, including reconciliation of those non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures, please refer to our current earnings press release and other public materials. This call is being webcast live and will be available for replay on our website through 9 May 2026, and by telephone through 23 February 2026. This call is copyrighted and may not be used without our permission. Other than the referenced replay, we have not authorized and disclaim responsibility for any recording, replay, or distribution of any transcription of this call. I would like to now turn the call over to Preston.
Wushuang Ma: Finally, some of the information we have for you today may be based on unaudited allocations and may be subject to reclassification. Our comments today may also include certain non-GAAP financial measures. For details regarding those measures, including reconciliation of those non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures, please refer to our current earnings press release and other public materials. This call is being webcast live and will be available for replay on our website through 9 May 2026, and by telephone through 23 February 2026. This call is copyrighted and may not be used without our permission. Other than the referenced replay, we have not authorized and disclaim responsibility for any recording, replay, or distribution of any transcription of this call. I would like to now turn the call over to Preston.
Speaker #2: For details regarding those measures, including reconciliation of those non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures, please refer to our current earnings press release and other public materials.
Speaker #2: This call is being webcast live and will be available for replay on our website through May 9, 2026, and via telephone through February 23, 2026.
Speaker #2: This call is copyrighted and may not be used without our permission. Other than the referenced replay, we have not authorized and disclaim responsibility for any recording, replay, or distribution of any transcription of this call.
Speaker #2: I would like now to turn the call over to
Speaker #2: Preston.
Speaker #3: Good evening, everyone. Thank you for
Preston D. Wigner: Good evening, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. Fiscal Year 2025 was an extraordinary year for Universal. We're following that year with solid performance at the end of our Q3 of fiscal year 2026. I'm proud of our company's dedication and commitment to delivering results for all our stakeholders. During the Q3 of our fiscal year, our team executed well and advanced the strategic priorities that support long-term value creation. I'll start with our tobacco operations segment, which generated solid quarterly results in comparison to a robust Q3 last fiscal year. Customer demand remained firm for most tobacco styles following several years of undersupply. We continue to leverage our diverse global footprint, long-standing customer relationships, and deep local expertise to optimize results as the market transitions into an oversupply environment.
Preston D. Wigner: Good evening, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. Fiscal Year 2025 was an extraordinary year for Universal. We're following that year with solid performance at the end of our Q3 of fiscal year 2026. I'm proud of our company's dedication and commitment to delivering results for all our stakeholders. During the Q3 of our fiscal year, our team executed well and advanced the strategic priorities that support long-term value creation. I'll start with our tobacco operations segment, which generated solid quarterly results in comparison to a robust Q3 last fiscal year. Customer demand remained firm for most tobacco styles following several years of undersupply. We continue to leverage our diverse global footprint, long-standing customer relationships, and deep local expertise to optimize results as the market transitions into an oversupply environment.
Speaker #3: Joining us today. Fiscal year 2025 was an extraordinary year for UNIVERSAL. We're following that year with solid performance to the end of our third quarter of fiscal year 2026.
Speaker #3: I'm proud of our company's dedication and commitment to delivering results for all our stakeholders. During the third quarter of our fiscal year, our team executed well and advanced the strategic priorities that support long-term value creation.
Speaker #3: I'll start with our tobacco operations segment, which generated solid quarterly results in comparison to a robust third quarter last fiscal year. Customer demand remained firm for most tobacco styles, following several years of undersupply.
Speaker #3: We continued to leverage our diverse global footprint, long-standing customer relationships, and deep local expertise to optimize results as the market transitions into an oversupply environment.
Speaker #3: Turning to the Ingredients Operations segment, we continue to advance our strategy in order to build durable commercial and operational fundamentals that support sustained growth.
Preston D. Wigner: Turning to the ingredients operations segment, we continue to advance our strategy in order to build durable commercial and operational fundamentals that support sustained growth. Sales revenue for our value-added products has started to make up a significant portion of our overall ingredients revenue. However, our segment results reflect higher fixed costs from the significant investments we made, which have compressed margins. Additionally, market headwinds, such as the broader softness in the consumer packaged goods sector, weighed on our business directly and indirectly, and tariff impacts were more pronounced during this quarter. These headwinds reinforce the importance of our disciplined and deliberate approach to investing in the resources and capabilities needed to provide resiliency and grow our ingredients business for the long term.
Preston D. Wigner: Turning to the ingredients operations segment, we continue to advance our strategy in order to build durable commercial and operational fundamentals that support sustained growth. Sales revenue for our value-added products has started to make up a significant portion of our overall ingredients revenue. However, our segment results reflect higher fixed costs from the significant investments we made, which have compressed margins. Additionally, market headwinds, such as the broader softness in the consumer packaged goods sector, weighed on our business directly and indirectly, and tariff impacts were more pronounced during this quarter. These headwinds reinforce the importance of our disciplined and deliberate approach to investing in the resources and capabilities needed to provide resiliency and grow our ingredients business for the long term.
Speaker #3: Sales revenue for our value-added products has started to make up a significant portion of our overall ingredients revenue. However, our segment results reflect higher fixed costs from the significant investments we made, which have compressed margins.
Speaker #3: Additionally, market headwinds, such as the broader softness in the consumer packaged goods sector, weighed on our business both directly and indirectly, and tariff impacts were more pronounced during this quarter.
Speaker #3: These headwinds reinforce the importance of our approach to investing in the resources and capabilities needed to provide resiliency and grow our ingredients business for the long term.
Speaker #3: While our global commercial and operational results were strong, we also took several meaningful steps to strengthen our company and position ourselves for the future. We refinanced, upsized, and improved our corporate credit facility, which significantly expanded our liquidity and improved financial flexibility.
Preston D. Wigner: While our global commercial and operational teams focused on delivering strong results, we also took several meaningful steps to strengthen our company and position ourselves for the future. We refinanced, upsized, and improved our corporate credit facility, which significantly expanded our liquidity and improved financial flexibility. Earlier today, we were excited to announce the appointment of our new CFO, Stephen S. Deal, effective 1 April. Steve brings strong financial, business, and strategic expertise to his new role, and I look forward to working closely with him to advance our company's strategies and deliver value to our stakeholders. I will now turn the call over to Johan to review our financial and operational performance in more detail, after which I'll share a few additional thoughts.
Preston D. Wigner: While our global commercial and operational teams focused on delivering strong results, we also took several meaningful steps to strengthen our company and position ourselves for the future. We refinanced, upsized, and improved our corporate credit facility, which significantly expanded our liquidity and improved financial flexibility. Earlier today, we were excited to announce the appointment of our new CFO, Stephen S. Deal, effective 1 April. Steve brings strong financial, business, and strategic expertise to his new role, and I look forward to working closely with him to advance our company's strategies and deliver value to our stakeholders. I will now turn the call over to Johan to review our financial and operational performance in more detail, after which I'll share a few additional thoughts.
Speaker #3: And earlier today, we were excited to announce the appointment of our new CFO, Stephen S. Deal, effective April 1. Steve brings strong financial, business, and strategic expertise to his new role, and I look forward to working closely with him to advance our company's strategies and deliver value to our stakeholders.
Speaker #3: I will now turn the call over to Johan to review our financial and operational performance in more detail, after which I'll share a few additional thoughts.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Preston. Good evening, everyone. For the nine months ended December 31, 2025, consolidated revenue was $2.21 billion, compared to $2.25 billion in the prior year period.
Johan C. Kroner: Thank you, Preston. Good evening, everyone. For the nine months ended December 31, 2025, consolidated revenue was $2.21 billion compared to $2.25 billion in the prior year period. Operating income was $183.4 million versus $190 million for the same period last year. Net income was $75.9 million versus $85.7 million for the same period last year. In our tobacco operations segment, revenue was $1.94 billion compared to $2 billion in the prior year period. Segment operating income was $185 million, versus $194.4 million for the same period last year. In our ingredients operations segment, revenue was $265.2 million, compared to $249 million in the prior year period.
Johan C. Kroner: Thank you, Preston. Good evening, everyone. For the nine months ended December 31, 2025, consolidated revenue was $2.21 billion compared to $2.25 billion in the prior year period. Operating income was $183.4 million versus $190 million for the same period last year. Net income was $75.9 million versus $85.7 million for the same period last year. In our tobacco operations segment, revenue was $1.94 billion compared to $2 billion in the prior year period. Segment operating income was $185 million, versus $194.4 million for the same period last year. In our ingredients operations segment, revenue was $265.2 million, compared to $249 million in the prior year period.
Speaker #2: Operating income was $183.4 million, versus $190.0 million for the same period last year. Net income was $75.9 million, versus $85.7 million for the same period last year.
Speaker #2: In our Tobacco Operations segment, revenue was $1.94 billion, compared to $2.0 billion in the prior year period. Segment operating income was $185 million, versus $194.4 million for the same period last year.
Speaker #2: In our Ingredients Operations segment, revenue was $265.2 million, compared to $249 million in the prior-year period. Segment operating income was $1.4 million, compared to $7.9 million for the same period last year.
Johan C. Kroner: Segment operating income was $1.4 million, compared to $7.9 million for the same period last year. For Q3 of Fiscal Year 2026, consolidated revenue was $861.3 million, compared to $937.2 million in the same quarter of last year. Operating income was $82 million versus $104.1 million for Q3 of the last fiscal year. Net income was $33.2 million versus $59.6 million for Q3 of last fiscal year. In our tobacco operations segment, revenue was $779.9 million, compared to $853.9 million in the same quarter of last year. Segment operating income was $84 million versus $102.6 million for Q3 of last fiscal year.
Johan C. Kroner: Segment operating income was $1.4 million, compared to $7.9 million for the same period last year. For Q3 of Fiscal Year 2026, consolidated revenue was $861.3 million, compared to $937.2 million in the same quarter of last year. Operating income was $82 million versus $104.1 million for Q3 of the last fiscal year. Net income was $33.2 million versus $59.6 million for Q3 of last fiscal year. In our tobacco operations segment, revenue was $779.9 million, compared to $853.9 million in the same quarter of last year. Segment operating income was $84 million versus $102.6 million for Q3 of last fiscal year.
Speaker #2: For the third quarter of fiscal year 2026, consolidated revenue was $861.3 million, compared to $937.2 million in the same quarter of last year. Operating income was $82 million, versus $104.1 million for the third quarter of the last fiscal year.
Speaker #2: Net income was $33.2 million, versus $59.6 million for the third quarter of last fiscal year. In our tobacco operations segment, revenue was $779.9 million, compared to $853.9 million in the same quarter of last year.
Speaker #2: Segment operating income was $84 million, versus $102.6 million for the third quarter of last fiscal year. In our Ingredients Operations segment, revenue was $81.3 million, compared to $83.3 million in the third quarter last year.
Johan C. Kroner: In our ingredients operations segment, revenue was $81.3 million, compared to $83.3 million in Q3 last year. Segment operating loss was $0.1 million, compared to segment operating income of $3.7 million in Q3 of last fiscal year. Turning to liquidity and capital structure. During the quarter, with strong support from our existing and new banking partners, we refinanced our senior unsecured credit facility and upsized the facility by $250 million. The new facility significantly expands our available liquidity, lowers our borrowing cost, enhances our financial flexibility, and positions us well to advance our long-term strategic priorities. As of 31 December 2025, our net debt was $995 million, compared to $945 million at the same point last year.
Johan C. Kroner: In our ingredients operations segment, revenue was $81.3 million, compared to $83.3 million in Q3 last year. Segment operating loss was $0.1 million, compared to segment operating income of $3.7 million in Q3 of last fiscal year. Turning to liquidity and capital structure. During the quarter, with strong support from our existing and new banking partners, we refinanced our senior unsecured credit facility and upsized the facility by $250 million. The new facility significantly expands our available liquidity, lowers our borrowing cost, enhances our financial flexibility, and positions us well to advance our long-term strategic priorities. As of 31 December 2025, our net debt was $995 million, compared to $945 million at the same point last year.
Speaker #2: Segment operating loss was $0.1 million, compared to segment operating income of $3.7 million in the third quarter of last fiscal year. Turning to liquidity and capital structure, during the quarter, with strong support from our existing and new banking partners, we refinanced our senior unsecured credit facility and upsized the facility by $250 million.
Speaker #2: The new facility significantly expands our available liquidity, lowers our borrowing cost, enhances our financial flexibility, and positions us well to advance our long-term strategic priorities.
Speaker #2: As of December 31, 2025, our net debt was $995 million, compared to $945 million at the same point last year. Our liquidity availability, which includes cash and availability under our committed and uncommitted credit lines, totaled $917 million.
Johan C. Kroner: Our liquidity availability, which includes cash and availability under our committed and uncommitted credit lines, totaled $917 million. I will now turn the conversation back to Preston.
Johan C. Kroner: Our liquidity availability, which includes cash and availability under our committed and uncommitted credit lines, totaled $917 million. I will now turn the conversation back to Preston.
Speaker #2: I will now turn the conversation back to
Speaker #2: Preston. Thank you,
Preston D. Wigner: Thank you, Johan. We are pleased with our solid results through the first 3 quarters of the fiscal year. As anticipated, the leaf tobacco market is moving into an oversupply environment. Managing evolving market dynamics is an area where Universal has demonstrated consistent strength for more than 100 years. We're proud of our resilience and our ability to deliver strong performance under all market conditions. Our long history of tobacco leadership motivates us to build and grow Universal Ingredients to support our long-term success. Back in 2018, we made the decision and developed a strategy to diversify into food and beverage ingredients. As part of that strategy, we made 3 acquisitions in 2020 and 2021 to gain a broad product portfolio, established customer relationships, and experienced management teams.
Preston D. Wigner: Thank you, Johan. We are pleased with our solid results through the first 3 quarters of the fiscal year. As anticipated, the leaf tobacco market is moving into an oversupply environment. Managing evolving market dynamics is an area where Universal has demonstrated consistent strength for more than 100 years. We're proud of our resilience and our ability to deliver strong performance under all market conditions. Our long history of tobacco leadership motivates us to build and grow Universal Ingredients to support our long-term success. Back in 2018, we made the decision and developed a strategy to diversify into food and beverage ingredients. As part of that strategy, we made 3 acquisitions in 2020 and 2021 to gain a broad product portfolio, established customer relationships, and experienced management teams.
Speaker #3: Johan, we are pleased with our solid results through the first three quarters of the fiscal year. As anticipated, the leaf tobacco market is moving into an oversupply environment.
Speaker #3: Managing evolving market dynamics is an area where Universal has demonstrated consistent strength for more than 100 years. We're proud of our resilience and our ability to deliver strong performance under all market conditions.
Speaker #3: Our long history of tobacco leadership motivates us to build and grow Universal Ingredients to support our long-term success. Back in 2018, we made the decision and developed a strategy to diversify into food and beverage ingredients.
Speaker #3: As part of that strategy, we made three acquisitions in 2020 and 2021 to gain a broad product portfolio, established customer relationships, and experienced management teams.
Speaker #3: These moves created Universal Ingredients, an established foundation for a scalable, differentiated platform capable of delivering and offering new, innovative solutions-based products to our customers.
Preston D. Wigner: These moves created Universal Ingredients and established the foundation for a scalable, differentiated platform, capable of delivering and offering new, innovative, solutions-based products to our customers. To support that strategy, we invested in building commercial sales, R&D, and product development capabilities, and in adding industry-leading production capabilities. These investments culminated in the completion of our Lancaster, Pennsylvania, facility expansion just over a year ago. Since completing the expansion, our focus has been on leveraging these new resources and capabilities to grow Universal Ingredients and convert customer interest into sales. We're excited about the progress we've made since those early days in 2018. While we continue to navigate inflationary pressures and the impact of tariff headwinds, we're focused on increasing sales to absorb fixed costs from our growth investments in Universal Ingredients.
Preston D. Wigner: These moves created Universal Ingredients and established the foundation for a scalable, differentiated platform, capable of delivering and offering new, innovative, solutions-based products to our customers. To support that strategy, we invested in building commercial sales, R&D, and product development capabilities, and in adding industry-leading production capabilities. These investments culminated in the completion of our Lancaster, Pennsylvania, facility expansion just over a year ago. Since completing the expansion, our focus has been on leveraging these new resources and capabilities to grow Universal Ingredients and convert customer interest into sales. We're excited about the progress we've made since those early days in 2018. While we continue to navigate inflationary pressures and the impact of tariff headwinds, we're focused on increasing sales to absorb fixed costs from our growth investments in Universal Ingredients.
Speaker #3: To support that strategy, we invested in building commercial sales, R&D, and product development capabilities, and in adding industry-leading production capabilities. These investments culminated in the completion of our Lancaster, Pennsylvania facility expansion just over a year ago.
Speaker #3: Since completing the expansion, our focus has been on leveraging these new resources and capabilities to grow Universal Ingredients and convert customer interest into sales.
Speaker #3: We're excited about the progress we've made since those early days in 2018. While we continue to navigate inflationary pressures and the impact of tariff headwinds, we're focused on increasing sales to absorb fixed costs from our growth investments in Universal Ingredients.
Speaker #3: We're encouraged by the continued steady interest in our enhanced capabilities and the growing breadth of our solutions-based product portfolio. We are committed to continuing the progress we've made to date, and scaling the platform to support stronger earnings, improved resilience, and enhanced margins.
Preston D. Wigner: We're encouraged by the continued steady interest in our enhanced capabilities and the growing breadth of our solutions-based product portfolio. We are committed to continuing the progress we've made to date and scaling the platform to support stronger earnings, improve resilience, and enhance margins. Before we conclude today's discussion, I want to highlight our continued progress in advancing our sustainability priorities. We recently released our annual sustainability report, which highlights significant progress across our environmental and social commitments. Notably, we increased renewable electricity consumption nearly sixfold year-over-year, with approximately 17.7% of our global electricity sourced from renewable energy. These actions support our approved Science-Based Targets and our commitment to achieve Net Zero greenhouse gas emissions across the value chain by 2050.
Preston D. Wigner: We're encouraged by the continued steady interest in our enhanced capabilities and the growing breadth of our solutions-based product portfolio. We are committed to continuing the progress we've made to date and scaling the platform to support stronger earnings, improve resilience, and enhance margins. Before we conclude today's discussion, I want to highlight our continued progress in advancing our sustainability priorities. We recently released our annual sustainability report, which highlights significant progress across our environmental and social commitments. Notably, we increased renewable electricity consumption nearly sixfold year-over-year, with approximately 17.7% of our global electricity sourced from renewable energy. These actions support our approved Science-Based Targets and our commitment to achieve Net Zero greenhouse gas emissions across the value chain by 2050.
Speaker #3: Before we conclude today's discussion, I want to highlight our continued progress in advancing our sustainability priorities. We recently released our annual sustainability report, which highlights significant progress across our environmental and social commitments.
Speaker #3: Notably, we increased renewable electricity consumption nearly sixfold year over year, with approximately 17.7% of our global electricity sourced from renewable energy. These actions support our approved science-based emissions targets and our commitment to achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions across the value chain by 2050.
Speaker #3: We also further demonstrated our support for farming communities globally, advancing our Good Agricultural Practices and Agricultural Labor Practices programs to maintain momentum across our social responsibility and farmer sustainability initiatives.
Preston D. Wigner: We also further demonstrated our support for farming communities globally, advancing our Good Agricultural Practices and Agricultural Labor Practices programs to maintain momentum across our social responsibility and farmer sustainability initiatives. Our disciplined execution and clear strategic focus provide a strong foundation as we move into the final quarter of the Fiscal Year. We are confident in our ability to execute on our strategy and continue creating long-term value for our stakeholders.... Thank you again for joining us today. We will now open the call for questions.
Preston D. Wigner: We also further demonstrated our support for farming communities globally, advancing our Good Agricultural Practices and Agricultural Labor Practices programs to maintain momentum across our social responsibility and farmer sustainability initiatives. Our disciplined execution and clear strategic focus provide a strong foundation as we move into the final quarter of the Fiscal Year. We are confident in our ability to execute on our strategy and continue creating long-term value for our stakeholders.... Thank you again for joining us today. We will now open the call for questions.
Speaker #3: Our discipline, execution, and clear strategic focus provide a strong foundation as we move into the final quarter of the fiscal year. We are confident in our ability to execute on our strategy and continue creating long-term value for our stakeholders.
Speaker #3: Thank you again for joining us today. We will now open the call for questions.
Speaker #3: Questions. As a reminder, if you'd like to...
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Speaker #3: Thank you. Good afternoon, guys. Thank you so much for taking my questions. I'll start this afternoon with ingredients and with the mention of the tariffs, and obviously the overall market weakness within consumer packaged goods.
Daniel Harriman: Thank you. Good afternoon, guys. Thank you so much for taking my questions. I'll start this afternoon with ingredients. With the mention of the tariffs and obviously the overall market weakness within consumer packaged goods, I was hoping you could help us understand how those issues are affecting both the traditional business within ingredients and then also the newer solutions-based offerings. In tobacco, you know, you called out fiscal 2025, and while sales were down in the quarter, that's not necessarily a fair comparison, considering the supply backdrop last year, and margins have been holding up pretty well. Given that last year was a high watermark for the segment, how do you view the underlying performance of the tobacco segment this quarter, considering solid sales and, like I said, the maintained margins?
Daniel Harriman: Thank you. Good afternoon, guys. Thank you so much for taking my questions. I'll start this afternoon with ingredients. With the mention of the tariffs and obviously the overall market weakness within consumer packaged goods, I was hoping you could help us understand how those issues are affecting both the traditional business within ingredients and then also the newer solutions-based offerings. In tobacco, you know, you called out fiscal 2025, and while sales were down in the quarter, that's not necessarily a fair comparison, considering the supply backdrop last year, and margins have been holding up pretty well. Given that last year was a high watermark for the segment, how do you view the underlying performance of the tobacco segment this quarter, considering solid sales and, like I said, the maintained margins?
Speaker #3: I was hoping you could help us understand how those issues are affecting both the traditional business within Ingredients, and then also the newer solutions-based offerings.
Speaker #3: And then, in tobacco, you called out fiscal 2025, and while sales were down in the quarter, that's not necessarily a fair comparison considering the supply backdrop last year, and margins have been holding up pretty well.
Speaker #3: So, given that last year was a high watermark for the segment, how do you view the underlying performance of the tobacco segment this quarter, considering solid sales and, like I said, the maintained margins?
Speaker #4: Yeah, Daniel, I'll start with ingredients. So last year, third quarter, was a good quarter for ingredients. We had revenues and volume both up over the prior year's quarter.
Preston D. Wigner: Yeah, Daniel, I'll, I'll start with ingredients. So, last year, Q3 was a good quarter for ingredients. We had revenues and volume both up over the prior year's quarter. And this year, we've been impacted by market headwinds, product mix, and the higher fixed costs, and I'll, I'll talk about all three. Some of those market headwinds, which are affecting the industry and lots of the sectors where our customers are, there's weakness in that consumer packaged goods sector and other food and beverage sectors. And those inflationary pressures are putting pressures on the consumer goods prices, and therefore from those customers, pressures on us, on our pricing and compressing our margins, as well as, as tightening demand. As their sales might decrease, then their orders from us will decrease. If it impacts them, it'll impact us.
Preston D. Wigner: Yeah, Daniel, I'll, I'll start with ingredients. So, last year, Q3 was a good quarter for ingredients. We had revenues and volume both up over the prior year's quarter. And this year, we've been impacted by market headwinds, product mix, and the higher fixed costs, and I'll, I'll talk about all three. Some of those market headwinds, which are affecting the industry and lots of the sectors where our customers are, there's weakness in that consumer packaged goods sector and other food and beverage sectors. And those inflationary pressures are putting pressures on the consumer goods prices, and therefore from those customers, pressures on us, on our pricing and compressing our margins, as well as, as tightening demand. As their sales might decrease, then their orders from us will decrease. If it impacts them, it'll impact us.
Speaker #4: And this year, we've been impacted by market headwinds, product mix, and the higher fixed costs. And I'll talk about all three. So on those market headwinds, which are affecting the industry and not the sectors where our customers are, there's weakness in that consumer packaged goods sector and other food and beverage sectors.
Speaker #4: And those inflationary pressures are putting pressure on consumer goods prices and therefore, from those customers, pressures on us—on our pricing—and compressing our margins as well as tightening demand.
Speaker #4: As their sales might decrease, then their orders from us will decrease. If it impacts them, it'll impact us. And we've seen that maybe in particular with sales this quarter of our sort of traditional core products.
Preston D. Wigner: And we've seen that, maybe in particular, with sales this quarter of our sort of traditional core products. On the tariff side, and we've talked about this a little bit in the past, we've had direct tariff impacts, we've had indirect tariff impacts. Those impacts were just a little more pronounced this quarter than in the first half. On the direct tariff impacts, we've got tariff costs that are impacting the cost of the products that we import into the US and incorporate into the products that we sell. So we've got tariff costs in those raw materials that we're having difficulty this past quarter, capturing all of that in our, in our sales to our customers. And then on the indirect impact, our customers have tariff impacts, which are impacting the sale of their products.
Preston D. Wigner: And we've seen that, maybe in particular, with sales this quarter of our sort of traditional core products. On the tariff side, and we've talked about this a little bit in the past, we've had direct tariff impacts, we've had indirect tariff impacts. Those impacts were just a little more pronounced this quarter than in the first half. On the direct tariff impacts, we've got tariff costs that are impacting the cost of the products that we import into the US and incorporate into the products that we sell. So we've got tariff costs in those raw materials that we're having difficulty this past quarter, capturing all of that in our, in our sales to our customers. And then on the indirect impact, our customers have tariff impacts, which are impacting the sale of their products.
Speaker #4: On the tariff side, we've talked about this a little bit in the past. We've had direct tariff impacts. We've had indirect tariff impacts. Those impacts were just a little more pronounced this quarter than in the first half.
Speaker #4: On the direct tariff impacts, we've got tariff costs that are impacting the cost of the products that we import into the U.S. and incorporated into the products that we sell.
Speaker #4: And so, we've got tariff costs in those raw materials that we're having difficulty this past quarter capturing all of that in our sales to our customers.
Speaker #4: And then on the indirect impact, our customers have tariff impacts, which are impacting the sale of their products. Those tariffs might be on products, or packaging of their products, which is impacting components and has decreased their sales.
Preston D. Wigner: Those tariffs might be impacting components of their products or packaging of their products, which has decreased their sales. And again, if their sales are decreasing, then potentially their orders to us are decreasing. On the product mix side, we had just a different mix of products with a little higher margins in the Q3 last year than we did this year. Some of those could be attributed, for example, to customer ordering based on forecasts of how they think their products were going to perform last year. So they might have ordered higher margin products from us last year, ramping up for their sales into the market. And if those sales didn't turn out the way they had forecasted, then potentially this quarter, they would have had fewer of those sales or were different products that they'd be ordering from us with slightly different margins.
Preston D. Wigner: Those tariffs might be impacting components of their products or packaging of their products, which has decreased their sales. And again, if their sales are decreasing, then potentially their orders to us are decreasing. On the product mix side, we had just a different mix of products with a little higher margins in the Q3 last year than we did this year. Some of those could be attributed, for example, to customer ordering based on forecasts of how they think their products were going to perform last year. So they might have ordered higher margin products from us last year, ramping up for their sales into the market. And if those sales didn't turn out the way they had forecasted, then potentially this quarter, they would have had fewer of those sales or were different products that they'd be ordering from us with slightly different margins.
Speaker #4: And again, if their sales are decreasing, then potentially their orders to us are decreasing. On the product mix side, we had just a different mix of products with a little higher margins in the third quarter last year than we did this year.
Speaker #4: Some of those could be attributed, for example, to customers ordering based on forecasts of how they thought their products were going to perform last year.
Speaker #4: So, they might have ordered higher-margin products from us last year, ramping up for their sales into the market. And if those sales didn't turn out the way they had forecasted, then potentially this quarter they would have had fewer of those sales, or different products that they'd be ordering from us with slightly different margins.
Speaker #4: So it's a little bit of a mix. And then lastly, on the margin, higher fixed costs. We've been talking about that for a while.
Preston D. Wigner: So it's a little bit of a margin mix. And then lastly, on the higher fixed costs, we've been talking about that for a while. We're still focused on scaling the business to absorb the costs and the investments we've made to grow the Ingredients business, including the expansion of our capabilities at the Lancaster Extracts facility. We continue to try to absorb those costs, which are impacting our margins and impacting our earnings. So we're positioned to offer innovative solutions-based products to our customers, and our sales are up 7% year to date versus last year, despite this challenging market. And our goal is to maintain that momentum. The sales of our new products have contributed to our increased sales, and we're focused on continuing to increase those sales and increase new and existing customer interest in Universal Ingredients.
Preston D. Wigner: So it's a little bit of a margin mix. And then lastly, on the higher fixed costs, we've been talking about that for a while. We're still focused on scaling the business to absorb the costs and the investments we've made to grow the Ingredients business, including the expansion of our capabilities at the Lancaster Extracts facility. We continue to try to absorb those costs, which are impacting our margins and impacting our earnings. So we're positioned to offer innovative solutions-based products to our customers, and our sales are up 7% year to date versus last year, despite this challenging market. And our goal is to maintain that momentum. The sales of our new products have contributed to our increased sales, and we're focused on continuing to increase those sales and increase new and existing customer interest in Universal Ingredients.
Speaker #4: We're still focused on scaling the business to absorb the costs and the investments we made to grow the ingredients business, including the expansion of our capabilities at the Lancaster Extracts facility.
Speaker #4: We continue to try to absorb those costs, which are impacting our margins and impacting our earnings. So we're positioned to offer innovative, solutions-based products to our customers.
Speaker #4: And our sales are up 7% year to date versus last year, despite this challenging market. And our goal is to maintain that momentum. Sales of our new products have contributed to our increased sales, and we're focused on continuing to increase those sales and increase new and existing customer interest in Universal, our active product development, and ingredients.
Speaker #4: And we continue to add to pipeline that leverages our broad product portfolio across the full Universal ingredients foundation. And we think those capabilities and the products that we offer can help our customers deliver new or improved or unique products to navigate the existing headwinds that are impacting them.
Preston D. Wigner: We continue to add to our active product development pipeline that leverages our broad product portfolio across the full Universal Ingredients foundation. And we think those capabilities and the products that we offer can help our customers deliver new or improved, or unique products to navigate the existing headwinds that are impacting them. So our focus on the ingredients side every single day is to convert that customer interest and the product portfolio into increased sales and volume across the factory floor. So I'm really encouraged by the dedication of the teams putting in the hard work on a daily basis, and I'm really pleased with the progress that we've made and how far we've come since our early days of 2018. So on the tobacco side, as you mentioned, this has been a solid quarter and year to date for our tobacco business.
Preston D. Wigner: We continue to add to our active product development pipeline that leverages our broad product portfolio across the full Universal Ingredients foundation. And we think those capabilities and the products that we offer can help our customers deliver new or improved, or unique products to navigate the existing headwinds that are impacting them. So our focus on the ingredients side every single day is to convert that customer interest and the product portfolio into increased sales and volume across the factory floor. So I'm really encouraged by the dedication of the teams putting in the hard work on a daily basis, and I'm really pleased with the progress that we've made and how far we've come since our early days of 2018. So on the tobacco side, as you mentioned, this has been a solid quarter and year to date for our tobacco business.
Speaker #4: So, our focus on the ingredients side every single day is to convert that customer interest and the product portfolio into increased sales and volume across the factory floor.
Speaker #4: I'm really encouraged by the dedication of the team that's putting in the hard work on a daily basis, and I'm really pleased with the progress that we've made and how far we've come since our early days in 2018.
Speaker #4: So, on the tobacco side, as you mentioned, this has been a solid quarter and year to date for our tobacco business. Last year was an extraordinary year for us.
Preston D. Wigner: Last year was an extraordinary year for us, and last year's Q3 was really robust. We had very strong demand in the undersupply market last year. We moved a lot of tobacco in the Q3, including accelerated shipments in the Q3. And pricing, both for our farmer pricing, green pricing, as well as our sales prices, were high, resulting in high dollar margins. And we also shipped more of certain higher margin dark tobaccos last Q3, which supported the high operating margin last Q3. You know, this year, year to date, our tobacco segment revenues and operating income are only down slightly from last year's extraordinary results. You know, quarter to quarter, tobacco segment revenues and operating income are good, except in comparison to such a big Q3 last year.
Preston D. Wigner: Last year was an extraordinary year for us, and last year's Q3 was really robust. We had very strong demand in the undersupply market last year. We moved a lot of tobacco in the Q3, including accelerated shipments in the Q3. And pricing, both for our farmer pricing, green pricing, as well as our sales prices, were high, resulting in high dollar margins. And we also shipped more of certain higher margin dark tobaccos last Q3, which supported the high operating margin last Q3. You know, this year, year to date, our tobacco segment revenues and operating income are only down slightly from last year's extraordinary results. You know, quarter to quarter, tobacco segment revenues and operating income are good, except in comparison to such a big Q3 last year.
Speaker #4: And last year's third quarter was really robust. We had very strong demand in the undersupply market last year. We moved a lot of tobacco in the third quarter.
Speaker #4: Including accelerated shipments in the third quarter, and pricing—both for our farmer pricing, the green pricing, as well as our sales prices—were high, resulting in high dollar margins.
Speaker #4: And we also shipped more of certain kinds of higher-margin dark tobaccos last third quarter, which supported the high operating margin last third quarter.
Speaker #4: This year, year to date, our tobacco segment revenues and operating income are only down slightly from last year's extraordinary results. Quarter to quarter, tobacco segment revenues and operating income are good, except in comparison to such a big third quarter last year.
Speaker #4: Last year's year-to-date in third quarter numbers were the highest that we'd seen in a number of years. And just looking at the last four years, for us, which were all solid years, our current year-to-date tobacco numbers are the second highest during that period.
Preston D. Wigner: Last year's year to date in third quarter numbers were the highest that we'd seen in a number of years. Just looking at the last 4 years for us, which were all solid years, our current year to date tobacco numbers are the second highest during that period. Our third quarter tobacco segment revenues are second highest, and our tobacco segment operating income is within $4 million of being second highest for that period. So last year cast a big shadow, but we're still performing well this year and this quarter. This year's large crops, especially in Brazil and Africa, and still firm customer demand, have given us opportunities to keep up with last year's sales. We've also increased our third-party processing based on the size of those crops.
Preston D. Wigner: Last year's year to date in third quarter numbers were the highest that we'd seen in a number of years. Just looking at the last 4 years for us, which were all solid years, our current year to date tobacco numbers are the second highest during that period. Our third quarter tobacco segment revenues are second highest, and our tobacco segment operating income is within $4 million of being second highest for that period. So last year cast a big shadow, but we're still performing well this year and this quarter. This year's large crops, especially in Brazil and Africa, and still firm customer demand, have given us opportunities to keep up with last year's sales. We've also increased our third-party processing based on the size of those crops.
Speaker #4: And our third quarter tobacco segment revenues are the second highest, and our tobacco segment operating income is within $4 million of being the second highest for that period.
Speaker #4: So, last year cast a big shadow. But we're still performing well this year. And this quarter, this year's large crops—especially in Brazil and Africa—and still firm customer demand have given us opportunities to keep up with last year's sales.
Speaker #4: And we've also increased our third-party processing based on the size of those crops. But pricing is down slightly from last year. And we've had additional write-downs in certain dark air-cured tobaccos that have impacted results.
Preston D. Wigner: But pricing is down slightly from last year, and we've had additional write-downs in certain dark air-cured tobaccos that have impacted results. The comparative mix of products, which I just mentioned a second ago, that we sold this quarter, Q3 versus last year's Q3, also had an impact, with some higher margin styles shipped at higher volumes last Q3 versus this Q3. And then there's also some shipment timing impacts to the quarter-to-quarter comparison. So we've leveraged our tobacco expertise, our diversified footprint, and our strong customer relationships to navigate what's been a really complex year, and we're moving from undersupply to oversupply. And with all of that, I'm really proud of the job we've done around the world to deliver the results we've delivered and to support all of our stakeholders.
Preston D. Wigner: But pricing is down slightly from last year, and we've had additional write-downs in certain dark air-cured tobaccos that have impacted results. The comparative mix of products, which I just mentioned a second ago, that we sold this quarter, Q3 versus last year's Q3, also had an impact, with some higher margin styles shipped at higher volumes last Q3 versus this Q3. And then there's also some shipment timing impacts to the quarter-to-quarter comparison. So we've leveraged our tobacco expertise, our diversified footprint, and our strong customer relationships to navigate what's been a really complex year, and we're moving from undersupply to oversupply. And with all of that, I'm really proud of the job we've done around the world to deliver the results we've delivered and to support all of our stakeholders.
Speaker #4: And the comparative mix of products, which I just mentioned a second ago, that we sold this quarter—third quarter—versus last year's third quarter also had an impact, with some higher-margin styles shipped at higher volumes last third quarter versus this third quarter.
Speaker #4: And then there's also some shipment timing impacts to the quarter-to-quarter comparison. So, we've leveraged our tobacco expertise, our diversified footprint, and our strong customer relationships to navigate what's been a really complex year, and we're moving into undersupply.
Speaker #4: I mean, from undersupply to oversupply. And with all of that, I'm really proud of the job we've done around the world to deliver the results we've delivered and to support all of our
Daniel Harriman: That's really helpful, Preston. Thanks so much, and best of luck the rest of the year.
Daniel Harriman: That's really helpful, Preston. Thanks so much, and best of luck the rest of the year.
Speaker #1: Thanks so much, and best of luck the rest of the quarter.
Speaker #1: year. Thank you,
Preston D. Wigner: Thank you, Daniel.
Preston D. Wigner: Thank you, Daniel.
Speaker #1: Your next, Daniel. The question comes from the line of Anne Gurkin from Davenport. Your line is live.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Ann Gurkin from Davenport & Company. Your line is live.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Ann Gurkin from Davenport & Company. Your line is live.
Speaker #4: Good
Ann Gurkin: Good evening, everybody.
Ann Gurkin: Good evening, everybody.
Speaker #4: evening, everybody. Hi,
Preston D. Wigner: Hi, Anne.
Preston D. Wigner: Hi, Anne.
Speaker #3: Anne.
Ann Gurkin: I'd love to pick up with the conversation around the tobacco segment. Do you think you'd be able to exit fiscal 2026 with margins relatively in line with what you delivered in fiscal 2025? I thought Q3 was better than I would have expected, and it's very impressive. So I was just curious if you can give me any kind of direction as to the full year tobacco segment margin.
Ann Gurkin: I'd love to pick up with the conversation around the tobacco segment. Do you think you'd be able to exit fiscal 2026 with margins relatively in line with what you delivered in fiscal 2025? I thought Q3 was better than I would have expected, and it's very impressive. So I was just curious if you can give me any kind of direction as to the full year tobacco segment margin.
Speaker #4: Conversation around the tobacco segment: Do you think you'd be able to exit fiscal '26 with margins relatively in line with what you delivered in fiscal '25?
Speaker #4: I thought Q3 was better than I would have expected, and it's very impressive. So I was just curious if you can give me any kind of direction as to the full-year tobacco segment.
Speaker #4: I thought Q3 was better than I would have expected, and it's very impressive. So I was just curious if you can give me any kind of direction as to the full-year tobacco segment margin.
Speaker #3: Yeah, I'd say we're still working hard on the quarter. We've got some tobacco to ship. Some of that tobacco is higher-margin tobacco that may have otherwise shipped in the third quarter.
Preston D. Wigner: Yeah, I'd say, you know, we're still working hard on the quarter. We've got, we've got some tobacco to ship. Some of that tobacco is higher margin tobacco that may have otherwise shipped in the third quarter. It's really gonna come down to mix and to timing of shipments. Yeah, can we get all that tobacco out in the fourth quarter?
Preston D. Wigner: Yeah, I'd say, you know, we're still working hard on the quarter. We've got, we've got some tobacco to ship. Some of that tobacco is higher margin tobacco that may have otherwise shipped in the third quarter. It's really gonna come down to mix and to timing of shipments. Yeah, can we get all that tobacco out in the fourth quarter?
Speaker #3: It's really going to come down to mix and to timing of shipments. Can we get all that tobacco out in the fourth quarter?
Speaker #4: Okay. And any comments on the, sorry, customers' inventory levels or duration positions with your key customers? Any comments, any insight you can share?
Ann Gurkin: Okay. And any, sorry, comments on the customers' inventory level or duration positions with your key customers? Any comments, any insight you can share there?
Ann Gurkin: Okay. And any, sorry, comments on the customers' inventory level or duration positions with your key customers? Any comments, any insight you can share there?
Speaker #4: there? Yeah, we're
Preston D. Wigner: Yeah, we're in, we're in near constant communication with the customers. I think, with customers, it's a little bit of a mix. You know, some of those customers, last year and into this year, they've been buying what they need and maybe restoring some of their durations and looking at their duration policies. Some still have, lower durations, and, you know, they'll decide in the upcoming years whether they'll return to those historically high duration levels or, try to maintain a tighter duration and, and assume some of that risk as we go into oversupply.
Preston D. Wigner: Yeah, we're in, we're in near constant communication with the customers. I think, with customers, it's a little bit of a mix. You know, some of those customers, last year and into this year, they've been buying what they need and maybe restoring some of their durations and looking at their duration policies. Some still have, lower durations, and, you know, they'll decide in the upcoming years whether they'll return to those historically high duration levels or, try to maintain a tighter duration and, and assume some of that risk as we go into oversupply.
Speaker #3: In near constant communication with the customers. And I think with customers, it's a little bit of a mix. Some of those customers, last year and into this year, they've been buying what they need and maybe restoring some of their durations.
Speaker #3: And looking at their duration policies, some still have lower durations, and they'll decide in the upcoming years whether they'll return to those historically high duration levels, or try to maintain a tighter duration and assume some of that risk as we go into—
Speaker #3: oversupply. Okay.
Ann Gurkin: Okay. And then do you have a worldwide uncommitted lease inventory number?
Ann Gurkin: Okay. And then do you have a worldwide uncommitted lease inventory number?
Speaker #4: And then do you have a worldwide uncommitted lease inventory?
Speaker #4: number? Yep.
Preston D. Wigner: Yep. So estimated unsold, secured, and burley stock was about 102 million kilos at December 31, 2025, which is about the same as it was on September 30, 2025.
Preston D. Wigner: Yep. So estimated unsold, secured, and burley stock was about 102 million kilos at December 31, 2025, which is about the same as it was on September 30, 2025.
Speaker #3: So, estimated unsold food-cured and burley stock was about 102 million kilos at December 31, 2025, which is about the same as it was on September 30, 2025.
Speaker #4: Great. And then, switching over to an ingredient segment, I'd be curious what your biggest surprise was from the Q3 results versus Q2 on a sequential basis.
Ann Gurkin: ... Great. And then switching over to the ingredient segment, I'd be curious, what your biggest surprise was from the Q3 results versus Q2 on a sequential basis.
Ann Gurkin: ... Great. And then switching over to the ingredient segment, I'd be curious, what your biggest surprise was from the Q3 results versus Q2 on a sequential basis.
Speaker #4: basis. I think
Preston D. Wigner: You know, I think the market headwinds and the impacts and the length of those impacts we've seen in the third quarter on our customers. You know, I think that's had a bigger impact than maybe I would have thought a year ago. We're hearing and we're seeing lots of customers trying to keep up sales, trying to keep up volumes, and their own margins and results through the third quarter. But, you know, that will be cyclical and we will, you know, we're gonna continue to perform, continue to get in front of our customers and get our products sold. But I'd say that's, to me, that's probably the biggest surprise.
Preston D. Wigner: You know, I think the market headwinds and the impacts and the length of those impacts we've seen in the third quarter on our customers. You know, I think that's had a bigger impact than maybe I would have thought a year ago. We're hearing and we're seeing lots of customers trying to keep up sales, trying to keep up volumes, and their own margins and results through the third quarter. But, you know, that will be cyclical and we will, you know, we're gonna continue to perform, continue to get in front of our customers and get our products sold. But I'd say that's, to me, that's probably the biggest surprise.
Speaker #3: The market headwinds and the impacts, and the length of those impacts we've seen in the third quarter on our customers—I think that's had a bigger impact than maybe I would have thought a year ago.
Speaker #3: We're hearing and we're seeing lots of customers trying to keep up sales, trying to keep up volumes, and their own margins and results through the third quarter.
Speaker #3: But that will be cyclical, and we will—we're going to continue to perform, continue to get in front of our customers, and get our products sold.
Speaker #3: But I'd say, to me, that's probably the biggest.
Speaker #3: surprise. Okay.
Ann Gurkin: Okay. And if you break out the revenue component, can you break it out in volume, price, and new customer wins?
Ann Gurkin: Okay. And if you break out the revenue component, can you break it out in volume, price, and new customer wins?
Speaker #4: And if you break out the revenue component, can you break it out into volume, price, and new customers?
Speaker #3: Now, we don't have that breakdown for public disclosure. And it's also a little bit mixed. The mix this quarter versus the same quarter last—
Preston D. Wigner: We don't have that breakdown for public disclosure. It's, and it's also a little bit of mix is mixed this quarter versus-
Preston D. Wigner: We don't have that breakdown for public disclosure. It's, and it's also a little bit of mix is mixed this quarter versus-
Ann Gurkin: Okay.
Ann Gurkin: Okay.
Preston D. Wigner: Same quarter last year.
Preston D. Wigner: Same quarter last year.
Speaker #3: year.
Speaker #4: Do you anticipate in the
Ann Gurkin: Do you anticipate in the next several quarters, pricing catching up with the higher tariff costs or input costs?
Ann Gurkin: Do you anticipate in the next several quarters, pricing catching up with the higher tariff costs or input costs?
Speaker #4: Next several quarters, pricing catching up with the higher tariff costs or input.
Preston D. Wigner: I think we, you know, are optimistic with continuing sales that maybe at a higher cost inventory we have that's carrying those additional tariff that we can get that through the system in the coming quarters, and then get that behind us. That will certainly help.
Speaker #3: I think we're optimistic, with continuing sales, that maybe the higher-cost inventory we have that's carrying those additional tariffs—we can get that through the system in the coming quarters.
Preston D. Wigner: I think we, you know, are optimistic with continuing sales that maybe at a higher cost inventory we have that's carrying those additional tariff that we can get that through the system in the coming quarters, and then get that behind us. That will certainly help.
Speaker #3: And then get that behind us; that will certainly help.
Speaker #4: Okay. And then, can you quantify the amount of inventory write-down in the ingredients?
Ann Gurkin: Okay. And then can you quantify the amount of inventory write-down in the ingredients segment this quarter?
Ann Gurkin: Okay. And then can you quantify the amount of inventory write-down in the ingredients segment this quarter?
Speaker #4: segment? We
Johan C. Kroner: We had some, Ann, but that's like standard, you know, the methodology that we use. We just looked at some of the inventory at the end of the quarter and determined whether or not it was the net realizable value was below the cost. So we took a little bit, but it was primarily in the dark air-cured space where we had to take some write-downs.
Johan C. Kroner: We had some, Ann, but that's like standard, you know, the methodology that we use. We just looked at some of the inventory at the end of the quarter and determined whether or not it was the net realizable value was below the cost. So we took a little bit, but it was primarily in the dark air-cured space where we had to take some write-downs.
Speaker #2: Had some, Anne, but that's standard. The methodology that we use—we just looked at some of the inventory at the end of the quarter and determined whether or not the net realizable value was below the cost.
Speaker #2: So we took a little bit, but it was primarily in the dark air-cured space where we had to take.
Speaker #2: some write-downs. So it was
Ann Gurkin: So it was more write down in the tobacco space than it was in the ingredient space?
Ann Gurkin: So it was more write down in the tobacco space than it was in the ingredient space?
Speaker #4: more write-down in the tobacco space than it was in
Speaker #4: ingredients space? Oh, yes.
Johan C. Kroner: Oh, yes. Yes.
Johan C. Kroner: Oh, yes. Yes.
Speaker #4: Okay. Okay. And yes. Then, I'm just curious—with the CFO announcement, congratulations—but I think you put out a press release in January of a CFO, and then now you have another announcement today.
Ann Gurkin: Okay. Okay, and then I'm just curious with the CFO announcement, congratulations, but I think you put out a press release in January of a CFO, and then now you have another announcement today. I'm just kind of curious if you can walk me through what's going on.
Ann Gurkin: Okay. Okay, and then I'm just curious with the CFO announcement, congratulations, but I think you put out a press release in January of a CFO, and then now you have another announcement today. I'm just kind of curious if you can walk me through what's going on.
Speaker #4: I'm just kind of curious if you can walk me through what's going on.
Speaker #3: Yeah, we filed an 8-K announcing that we withdrew our offer to Mr. Matone to become our CFO, and our 8-K really speaks for itself.
Preston D. Wigner: Yeah, we filed an 8-K, announcing that we withdrew our offer from Mr. Mittal to become our CFO, and our 8-K really speaks for itself. Instead, we were thrilled to have our press release this morning, and Steve cannot wait to join these calls and talk to you.
Preston D. Wigner: Yeah, we filed an 8-K, announcing that we withdrew our offer from Mr. Mittal to become our CFO, and our 8-K really speaks for itself. Instead, we were thrilled to have our press release this morning, and Steve cannot wait to join these calls and talk to you.
Speaker #3: Instead, we were thrilled to have our press release this morning. And Steve, cannot wait to join these calls and talk to you.
Ann Gurkin: I bet he can't. That's great. Preston, I also wanna tell you how much I enjoyed your presentation at ICR. I'm so glad you all participated in that conference.
Ann Gurkin: I bet he can't. That's great. Preston, I also wanna tell you how much I enjoyed your presentation at ICR. I'm so glad you all participated in that conference.
Speaker #4: I said he can't. That's great. Preston, I also want to tell you how much I enjoyed your presentation at ICR. I'm so glad you all participated in that conference.
Speaker #3: Oh, good.
Preston D. Wigner: Oh, good. Thank you.
Preston D. Wigner: Oh, good. Thank you.
Speaker #4: I appreciate it. Terrific presentation. I have a couple of questions, if I can still ask.
Ann Gurkin: It was a terrific presentation. I have a couple of questions, if I can still ask questions-
Ann Gurkin: It was a terrific presentation. I have a couple of questions, if I can still ask questions-
Speaker #4: Questions. In relation to that presentation—in the presentation, you talked about participating in the next-generation supply chain for tobacco companies. Can you just flesh that statement out a little bit for—
Preston D. Wigner: Uh-huh.
Preston D. Wigner: Uh-huh.
Speaker #3: Sure.
Ann Gurkin: In relation to that presentation. In the presentation, you talked about participating in the next generation supply chain for tobacco companies. Can you just flesh that statement out a little bit for me?
Ann Gurkin: In relation to that presentation. In the presentation, you talked about participating in the next generation supply chain for tobacco companies. Can you just flesh that statement out a little bit for me?
Speaker #4: me? Yeah.
Preston D. Wigner: Yeah. As part of our strategy, we wanna make sure that we have opportunities to participate in some way in that supply chain. Some of that we do today. So if they've got tobacco-based products like Heat-Not-Burn, for those customers, we wanna make sure that that tobacco is coming from us. And then as they develop and expand other products, we wanna have opportunities to be part of that supply chain for that as well, whether it's liquid nicotine or going forward with our Universal Ingredients abilities with flavors. So all of that, we'd like to have that as part of our strategy, part of our growth going forward.
Preston D. Wigner: Yeah. As part of our strategy, we wanna make sure that we have opportunities to participate in some way in that supply chain. Some of that we do today. So if they've got tobacco-based products like Heat-Not-Burn, for those customers, we wanna make sure that that tobacco is coming from us. And then as they develop and expand other products, we wanna have opportunities to be part of that supply chain for that as well, whether it's liquid nicotine or going forward with our Universal Ingredients abilities with flavors. So all of that, we'd like to have that as part of our strategy, part of our growth going forward.
Speaker #3: As part of our strategy, we want to make sure that we have opportunities to participate in some way in that supply chain. Some of that we do today.
Speaker #3: So, if they've got tobacco-based products like Heat Not Burn for those customers, we want to make sure that that tobacco is coming from us.
Speaker #3: And then, as they develop and expand other products, we want to have opportunities to be part of that supply chain for that as well.
Speaker #3: Whether it's liquid nicotine or going forward with our universal ingredients abilities with flavors, all of that we'd like to have as part of our strategy, part of our growth going.
Speaker #3: forward. Okay.
Ann Gurkin: Okay, great. And then you talked about investing in commercial sales, the platform, and opportunities to cross-sell across the two segments. I was wondering if I can get an update on your ability to leverage that investment. And are you recognizing, realizing wins or cross-selling successes? Any kind of update there?
Ann Gurkin: Okay, great. And then you talked about investing in commercial sales, the platform, and opportunities to cross-sell across the two segments. I was wondering if I can get an update on your ability to leverage that investment. And are you recognizing, realizing wins or cross-selling successes? Any kind of update there?
Speaker #4: Great. And then you talked about investing in commercial sales in the platform and opportunities to cross-sell across the two segments. I was wondering if I could get an update on your ability to leverage that investment, and are you recognizing or realizing wins or cross-selling successes?
Speaker #4: Any kind of update
Speaker #4: there? I
Preston D. Wigner: I think that cross-selling referred to products within the Universal Ingredients platform, I think.
Speaker #3: I think that cross-selling referred to products within the Universal Ingredients platform, I think. And that's a big part of what we're doing in terms of building that active pipeline—getting the commercial sales teams in front of existing customers, selling new products; in front of new customers, selling new products; getting those in the pipeline and back through.
Preston D. Wigner: I think that cross-selling referred to products within the Universal Ingredients platform, I think.
Ann Gurkin: Okay.
Ann Gurkin: Okay.
Preston D. Wigner: And that's a big part of what we're doing in terms of building that active pipeline, getting those commercial sales teams in front of existing customers, selling new products, in front of new customers, selling new products, getting those in the pipeline and back through. And we don't have them broken out separately, but that's a big part of the increased sales, and also on the flavor side as well.
Preston D. Wigner: And that's a big part of what we're doing in terms of building that active pipeline, getting those commercial sales teams in front of existing customers, selling new products, in front of new customers, selling new products, getting those in the pipeline and back through. And we don't have them broken out separately, but that's a big part of the increased sales, and also on the flavor side as well.
Speaker #3: And we don't have them broken out separately, but that's a big part of the increased sales, and also in the flavor side as well.
Speaker #4: Okay, great. And then just one more question: What tax rates should I use for the year?
Ann Gurkin: Okay, great. And then just one more question. What tax rate should I use for the year?
Ann Gurkin: Okay, great. And then just one more question. What tax rate should I use for the year?
Johan C. Kroner: It's a good question, Ann. As you could see in the filings, you know, that it ticked up a little bit. We had some,
Speaker #2: It's a good question, Anne. As you could see in the filings, it ticked up a little bit. We had some—a hard look at
Johan C. Kroner: It's a good question, Ann. As you could see in the filings, you know, that it ticked up a little bit. We had some,
Speaker #4: Yeah.
Ann Gurkin: Yep
Ann Gurkin: Yep
Johan C. Kroner: A hard look at our taxes. There were some taxes implemented in certain countries by law, so that had an impact on this. So, you know, like I said before, you know, it's normally between 28% and 32%. We have been below that in the last couple of years, but, you know, we're ticking up slightly because of some of these changes. And of course, it depends on the mix. Where do we make it? And the currency it's earned in. So all those things come into play in the next quarter.
Johan C. Kroner: A hard look at our taxes. There were some taxes implemented in certain countries by law, so that had an impact on this. So, you know, like I said before, you know, it's normally between 28% and 32%. We have been below that in the last couple of years, but, you know, we're ticking up slightly because of some of these changes. And of course, it depends on the mix. Where do we make it? And the currency it's earned in. So all those things come into play in the next quarter.
Speaker #2: Our taxes—there were some taxes implemented in certain countries by law, so that had an impact on this. So, like I said before, it's normally between 28% and 32%.
Speaker #2: We have been below that in the last couple of years, but we're ticking up slightly because of some of these changes. And of course, it depends on the mix.
Speaker #2: Where do we make it, and the currency it's earned in. So all those things come into play in the next quarter.
Speaker #4: Okay, that's great. Thank you all very much for your time. I appreciate it.
Speaker #4: Okay, that's great. Thank you all very much for your time. I appreciate it.
Ann Gurkin: Okay, that's great. Thank you all very much for your time. I appreciate it.
Ann Gurkin: Okay, that's great. Thank you all very much for your time. I appreciate it.
Speaker #2: Thank you. Thanks,
Johan C. Kroner: Thank you.
Johan C. Kroner: Thank you.
Preston D. Wigner: Thanks, Anne.
Preston D. Wigner: Thanks, Anne.
Speaker #3: Anne, there are no further questions for the question.
Operator: There are no further questions for the question and answer session. I'd like to turn the call over to Preston Wigner for closing remarks.
Operator: There are no further questions for the question and answer session. I'd like to turn the call over to Preston Wigner for closing remarks.
Speaker #1: and answer session. I'd like to turn the call over to Preston Wigner for closing remarks.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Jordan. Thank you for taking the time to join us today. We look forward to connecting again on our next earnings call.
Preston D. Wigner: Thanks, Jordan. Thank you for taking the time to join us today. We look forward to connecting again on our next earnings call.
Preston D. Wigner: Thanks, Jordan. Thank you for taking the time to join us today. We look forward to connecting again on our next earnings call.
Speaker #3: call. That concludes today's meeting.
Operator: That concludes today's meeting. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.
Operator: That concludes today's meeting. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.