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Q2 2026 Upexi Inc Earnings Call
Operator 1: Good day. Welcome to Upexi, Inc. Fiscal Second Quarter 2026 Financial Results Conference Call. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Valter Pinto, Managing Director at KCSA Strategic Communications. Please go ahead.
Operator: Good day. Welcome to Upexi, Inc. Fiscal Second Quarter 2026 Financial Results Conference Call. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Valter Pinto, Managing Director at KCSA Strategic Communications. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Please go ahead. Thank you, Operator. Good evening and welcome, everyone, to the UPEXI Fiscal Second Quarter 2026 Financial Results Conference Call. I'm joined today by Allan Marshall, Chief Executive Officer, Andrew Norstrud, Chief Financial Officer, and Brian Rudick, Chief Strategy Officer.
Valter Pinto: Thank you, Operator. Good evening and welcome, everyone, to the Upexi fiscal second quarter 2026 financial results conference call. I'm joined today by Allan Marshall, Chief Executive Officer, Andrew Nordstrud, Chief Financial Officer, and Brian Rudick, Chief Strategy Officer. Before we begin, I'm going to remind everyone that statements made during today's conference call may be deemed forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially due to a variety of risks, uncertainties, and other factors. For a detailed discussion of some of the ongoing risks and uncertainties in the company's business, I'll refer you to the press release issued this evening and filed with the SEC on Form 8-K, as well as the company's reports filed periodically with the SEC.
Valter Pinto: Thank you, Operator. Good evening and welcome, everyone, to the Upexi fiscal second quarter 2026 financial results conference call. I'm joined today by Allan Marshall, Chief Executive Officer, Andrew Nordstrud, Chief Financial Officer, and Brian Rudick, Chief Strategy Officer. Before we begin, I'm going to remind everyone that statements made during today's conference call may be deemed forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially due to a variety of risks, uncertainties, and other factors. For a detailed discussion of some of the ongoing risks and uncertainties in the company's business, I'll refer you to the press release issued this evening and filed with the SEC on Form 8-K, as well as the company's reports filed periodically with the SEC.
Speaker #2: Before we begin, I'm going to remind everyone the statements made during today's conference call may be deemed forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.
Speaker #2: Actual results may differ materially due to a variety of risks and uncertainties and other factors. For a detailed discussion of some of the ongoing risks and uncertainties in the company's business, I'll refer you to the press release issued this evening and filed with the SEC on Form AK, as well as the company's reports filed periodically with the SEC.
Speaker #2: The company disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise, unless otherwise required by law.
Valter Pinto: The company disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise, unless otherwise required by law. In addition, during the course of the call, we may refer to non-GAAP financial measures that are not prepared in accordance with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States, and they may be different from non-GAAP financial measures used by other companies. The reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are contained in our earnings release issued this evening, unless otherwise noted. I'd now like to turn the call over to Upexi CEO Allan Marshall.
Valter Pinto: The company disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise, unless otherwise required by law. In addition, during the course of the call, we may refer to non-GAAP financial measures that are not prepared in accordance with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States, and they may be different from non-GAAP financial measures used by other companies. The reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are contained in our earnings release issued this evening, unless otherwise noted. I'd now like to turn the call over to Upexi CEO Allan Marshall.
Speaker #2: In addition, during the course of the call, we may refer to non-GAAP financial measures that are not prepared in accordance with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States.
Speaker #2: And they may be different from non-GAAP financial measures used by other companies. The reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are contained in our earnings release issued this evening.
Speaker #2: Unless otherwise noted. I'd now like to turn the call over to UPEXI CEO, Allan
Speaker #2: Marshall. Thank you, Valter,
Allan Marshall: Thank you, Valter, and welcome to our Q2 2026 Earnings Conference Call. I'm happy to review our results and discuss why, despite the difficult market backdrop, I remained extremely optimistic for the future and why we remain well-positioned to win. The market presented two key challenges for us last quarter, with both declining asset prices and Treasury Company multiple compression. This was reflected in our quarterly results as well as in our stock price. I'll discuss each in succession. On the former, the price of Solana fell 40% during the quarter, and it has fallen a further 31% since the quarter end. While there have been many reasons cited, including rising geopolitical risks, precious metals stealing the show, and many more, the fact of the matter is the biggest determinant of any Treasury Company success has and always will be the performance of its underlying token.
Valter Pinto: Thank you, Valter, and welcome to our Q2 2026 Earnings Conference Call. I'm happy to review our results and discuss why, despite the difficult market backdrop, I remained extremely optimistic for the future and why we remain well-positioned to win. The market presented two key challenges for us last quarter, with both declining asset prices and Treasury Company multiple compression. This was reflected in our quarterly results as well as in our stock price. I'll discuss each in succession. On the former, the price of Solana fell 40% during the quarter, and it has fallen a further 31% since the quarter end. While there have been many reasons cited, including rising geopolitical risks, precious metals stealing the show, and many more, the fact of the matter is the biggest determinant of any Treasury Company success has and always will be the performance of its underlying token.
Speaker #3: and welcome to our second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. I'm happy to review our results and discuss why, despite the difficult market backdrop, I remained extremely optimistic for the future and why we remain well-positioned to win.
Speaker #3: The market presented two key challenges for us last quarter, with both declining asset prices and treasury company multiple compression. This was reflected in our quarterly results as well as in our stock price.
Speaker #3: I'll discuss each in succession. On the former, the price of Solana fell 40% during the quarter, and it has fallen a further 31% since the quarter end.
Speaker #3: While there have been many reasons cited, including rising geopolitical risks, precious metal ceiling to show, and many more, the fact of the matter is the biggest determinant of any treasury company's success has been and always will be the performance of its underlying token.
Speaker #3: Thus, we are not immune and Solana's performance had a big impact on the company. That said, our remaining courage for three key reasons. The first is given their nascency, such volatility is normal with digital assets.
Allan Marshall: Thus, we were not immune, and Solana's performance had a big impact on the company. That said, I remain encouraged for three key reasons. The first is, given their nascency, such volatility is normal with digital assets, and Solana often exhibits large movements in both directions along a significant uptrend over time. Second, as Brian will discuss in more detail, the underlying fundamentals for Solana continue to improve as global finance moves on-chain. Here I'm particularly optimistic because, over time, price follows fundamentals, and improving fundamentals against a falling price is a recipe for greater potential upside. Lastly, as a Treasury Company, we have multiple mechanisms not available to native tokens or ETFs that can create value for shareholders, like accretive issuance and discount-at-lock token purchases.
Valter Pinto: Thus, we were not immune, and Solana's performance had a big impact on the company. That said, I remain encouraged for three key reasons. The first is, given their nascency, such volatility is normal with digital assets, and Solana often exhibits large movements in both directions along a significant uptrend over time. Second, as Brian will discuss in more detail, the underlying fundamentals for Solana continue to improve as global finance moves on-chain. Here I'm particularly optimistic because, over time, price follows fundamentals, and improving fundamentals against a falling price is a recipe for greater potential upside. Lastly, as a Treasury Company, we have multiple mechanisms not available to native tokens or ETFs that can create value for shareholders, like accretive issuance and discount-at-lock token purchases.
Speaker #3: And Solana often exhibits large movements in both directions along a significant uptrend over time. Second, as Brian will discuss in more detail, the underlying fundamentals for Solana continue to improve as global finance moves on-chain.
Speaker #3: Here I'm particularly optimistic because over time, price follows fundamentals. An improving fundamentals against a falling price is a recipe for greater potential upside. Lastly, as a treasury company, we have multiple mechanisms not available to native tokens or ETFs that can create value for shareholders.
Speaker #3: Like a creative issuance and discount at lock token purchases. We have, in the past, an aim to, in the future, increase our Solana per share to help offset any decline in token price.
Allan Marshall: We have, in the past, and aim to, in the future, increase our Solana per share to help offset any decline in token price or to add to any increase in price in an upmarket. So overall, between the volatility being expected, a positive view for potential Solana price appreciation, and our ability to increase Solana per share, we remain positive about the opportunity and continue to believe 2026 will be a strong year for Solana and Upexi. The second key challenge during the quarter was general multiple compression in the Treasury space. We believe this was due to the law of supply and demand. With over 200 Treasury Companies, it is not hard to see why many are trading at discounts to net asset value. Despite this, I remain optimistic for so many reasons.
Valter Pinto: We have, in the past, and aim to, in the future, increase our Solana per share to help offset any decline in token price or to add to any increase in price in an upmarket. So overall, between the volatility being expected, a positive view for potential Solana price appreciation, and our ability to increase Solana per share, we remain positive about the opportunity and continue to believe 2026 will be a strong year for Solana and Upexi. The second key challenge during the quarter was general multiple compression in the Treasury space. We believe this was due to the law of supply and demand. With over 200 Treasury Companies, it is not hard to see why many are trading at discounts to net asset value. Despite this, I remain optimistic for so many reasons.
Speaker #3: Or to add to any increase in price in an upmarket. So overall, between the volatility being expected, a positive view for potential Solana price appreciation, and our ability to increase Solana per share, we remain positive about the opportunity and continue to believe 2026 will be a strong year for Solana and Upexi.
Speaker #3: The second key challenge during the quarter was general multiple compression in the treasury space. We believe this was due to the law of supply and demand.
Speaker #3: With over 200 treasury companies, it is not hard to see why many are trading at discounts to net asset value. Despite this, I remain optimistic for so many reasons.
Speaker #3: First, I believe the subsector will work through some of its oversupply, either through M&A or from treasury companies selling their digital assets to close the discounts.
Allan Marshall: First, I believe the subsector will work through some of its oversupply, either through M&A or from Treasury Companies selling their digital assets to close the discounts. Secondly, I believe there are fundamental reasons why UPEXI can and should trade at a premium valuation in constructive market environments. As discussed in the past, these have to do with our multiple value accrual mechanisms, which have value. Third, as we have publicly stated, we are working to increase the yield that we generate on the Treasury in a risk-prudent and recurring fashion. Should we be successful, we believe this would increase our multiple, which in turn would accelerate the model and differentiate UPEXI from others. Lastly, I believe we're likely to see multiple expansion in a bull market.
Valter Pinto: First, I believe the subsector will work through some of its oversupply, either through M&A or from Treasury Companies selling their digital assets to close the discounts. Secondly, I believe there are fundamental reasons why UPEXI can and should trade at a premium valuation in constructive market environments. As discussed in the past, these have to do with our multiple value accrual mechanisms, which have value. Third, as we have publicly stated, we are working to increase the yield that we generate on the Treasury in a risk-prudent and recurring fashion. Should we be successful, we believe this would increase our multiple, which in turn would accelerate the model and differentiate UPEXI from others. Lastly, I believe we're likely to see multiple expansion in a bull market.
Speaker #3: Secondly, I believe there are fundamental reasons why Upexi can and should trade at a premium valuation in constructive market environments. As discussed in the past, these have to do with our multiple value accrual mechanisms, which have value.
Speaker #3: Third, as we have publicly stated, we are working to increase the yield that we generate on the treasury in a risk-prudent and recurring fashion.
Speaker #3: Should we be successful, we believe this would increase our multiple, which in turn would accelerate the model and differentiate Upexi from others. Lastly, I believe we're likely to see multiple expansion in a bull market.
Speaker #3: This has been the case historically with public companies. And there are large catalysts, like the potential passage of US digital asset legislation, that could quickly bring this to fruition.
Allan Marshall: This has been the case historically with public companies, and there are large catalysts like the potential passage of US digital asset legislation that could quickly bring this to fruition. In closing, while we have had a turbulent start to 2026, we remain positive about the future, and the company has developed a strong strategic plan to: 1, increase yield, 2, hedge positions use a maturing option market, and lastly, capitalize on top opportunities the volatility creates. All of these things should lead to significant growth in yield, cash flow, and stability for 2026 and beyond. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our Chief Strategy Officer, Brian Rudick.
Valter Pinto: This has been the case historically with public companies, and there are large catalysts like the potential passage of US digital asset legislation that could quickly bring this to fruition. In closing, while we have had a turbulent start to 2026, we remain positive about the future, and the company has developed a strong strategic plan to: 1, increase yield, 2, hedge positions use a maturing option market, and lastly, capitalize on top opportunities the volatility creates. All of these things should lead to significant growth in yield, cash flow, and stability for 2026 and beyond. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our Chief Strategy Officer, Brian Rudick.
Speaker #3: In closing, while we have had a turbulent start to 2026, we remain positive about the future, and the company has developed a strong strategic plan to: one, increase yield; two, hedge positions using the maturing option market; and lastly, capitalize on top of opportunities the volatility creates.
Speaker #3: All of these things should lead to significant growth in yield, cash flow, and stability for 2026 and beyond. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our Chief Strategy Officer, Brian Rudick.
Speaker #4: Thanks, Allan. And hello, everyone. Despite the challenges during the quarter, the underlying fundamentals for both Solana and UPEXI remain solid. As a brief reminder, Solana's North Star is what it calls internet capital markets, where it aims to upgrade our antiquated global financial infrastructure.
Brian Rudick: Thanks, Allan, and hello, everyone. Despite the challenges during the quarter, the underlying fundamentals for both Solana and UPEXI remain solid. As a brief reminder, Solana's North Star is what it calls Internet Capital Markets, where it aims to upgrade our antiquated global financial infrastructure. Existing constructs like ACH and the credit card issuer networks were created 50+ years ago and are slow and expensive, while even fintech is simply a front-end wrapper on this antiquated infrastructure. But we can now use internet and blockchain-based rails to upgrade this antiquated infrastructure for huge speed and cost savings, in addition to other benefits around transparency, composability, investor access, and many more.
Brian Rudick: Thanks, Allan, and hello, everyone. Despite the challenges during the quarter, the underlying fundamentals for both Solana and UPEXI remain solid. As a brief reminder, Solana's North Star is what it calls Internet Capital Markets, where it aims to upgrade our antiquated global financial infrastructure. Existing constructs like ACH and the credit card issuer networks were created 50+ years ago and are slow and expensive, while even fintech is simply a front-end wrapper on this antiquated infrastructure. But we can now use internet and blockchain-based rails to upgrade this antiquated infrastructure for huge speed and cost savings, in addition to other benefits around transparency, composability, investor access, and many more.
Speaker #4: Existing constructs like ACH and the credit card issuer networks were created 50-plus years ago and are slow and expensive, while even fintech is simply a front-end wrapper on this antiquated infrastructure.
Speaker #4: But we can now use internet and blockchain-based rails to upgrade this antiquated infrastructure for huge speed and cost savings. In addition to other benefits around transparency, composability, investor access, and many
Speaker #4: more.
Speaker #3: Solana continued to
Allan Marshall: Solana continued to progress throughout the quarter with increased development, adoption, and usage.
Allan Marshall: Solana continued to progress throughout the quarter with increased development, adoption, and usage.
Speaker #3: progress throughout the quarter with increased development and adoption,
Speaker #3: and usage. The
Speaker #4: spot Solana ETF launched and has seen over 850 million of net inflows since. Stablecoin supply reached a new record. Tokenized equities are MON and STRK began trading on Solana, and the fire dancer client launched on mainnet.
Brian Rudick: The spot Solana ETFs launched and have seen over $850 million of net inflows since. Stablecoin supply reached a new record, tokenized equities are booming, non-native tokens like MON and STRK began trading on Solana, and the FireDancer client launched on Mainnet. Importantly, key announcements were made by various leading institutions, including Western Union, Visa, Coinbase, Revolut, Robinhood, Kaoshi, and SoFi. In short, Solana demonstrated strong momentum, and particularly so related to its Internet Capital Markets goal. The opportunity to revolutionize finance is massive, and Solana is at its very heart. We remained active with the capital markets, highlighted by the private placement of up to $19 million in common stock and warrants, and subsequent to quarter end, an additional $7 million common stock and warrants offering, as well as a $36 million in-kind convertible note issuance.
Brian Rudick: The spot Solana ETFs launched and have seen over $850 million of net inflows since. Stablecoin supply reached a new record, tokenized equities are booming, non-native tokens like MON and STRK began trading on Solana, and the FireDancer client launched on Mainnet. Importantly, key announcements were made by various leading institutions, including Western Union, Visa, Coinbase, Revolut, Robinhood, Kaoshi, and SoFi. In short, Solana demonstrated strong momentum, and particularly so related to its Internet Capital Markets goal. The opportunity to revolutionize finance is massive, and Solana is at its very heart. We remained active with the capital markets, highlighted by the private placement of up to $19 million in common stock and warrants, and subsequent to quarter end, an additional $7 million common stock and warrants offering, as well as a $36 million in-kind convertible note issuance.
Speaker #4: And importantly, key announcements were made by various leading Union, Visa, Coinbase, Revolut, Robinhood, Kaushi, and SoFi. In short, Solana demonstrated strong momentum and particularly so related to its internet capital markets goal.
Speaker #4: The opportunity to revolutionize finances is massive, and Solana is at its very heart. We remain active with the capital markets highlighted by the private placement of up to 19 million in common stock and warrants, and subsequent to quarter end, an additional 7 million common stock and warrants offering as well as a 36 million in-kind convertible note issuance.
Speaker #4: Both were done at a premium to our fully loaded NAV, meaning they increased the adjusted Solana per share. We also became self-eligible during the quarter and quickly filed our shelf registration statement on Form S3 with the SEC, which is now effective.
Brian Rudick: Both were done at a premium to our fully loaded NAV, meaning they increased the adjusted Solana per share. We also became self-eligible during the quarter and quickly filed our shelf registration statement on Form S-3 with the SEC, which is now effective. We announced a $50 million share repurchase program, adding another important tool to manage capital. On the visibility front, we participated in over 10 conferences and events during the quarter, including Solana Breakpoint, Maxim, Cantor, Rothschild, Roth, Clear Street, and others. These resulted in myriad presentations and panels, as well as in over 100 investor meetings where we continue to evangelize both Solana and Upexi. We continue to appear in many news articles and podcasts throughout the quarter. Put simply, Solana is executing on its Internet Capital Markets roadmap, and Upexi is adding additional value for shareholders.
Brian Rudick: Both were done at a premium to our fully loaded NAV, meaning they increased the adjusted Solana per share. We also became self-eligible during the quarter and quickly filed our shelf registration statement on Form S-3 with the SEC, which is now effective. We announced a $50 million share repurchase program, adding another important tool to manage capital. On the visibility front, we participated in over 10 conferences and events during the quarter, including Solana Breakpoint, Maxim, Cantor, Rothschild, Roth, Clear Street, and others. These resulted in myriad presentations and panels, as well as in over 100 investor meetings where we continue to evangelize both Solana and Upexi. We continue to appear in many news articles and podcasts throughout the quarter. Put simply, Solana is executing on its Internet Capital Markets roadmap, and Upexi is adding additional value for shareholders.
Speaker #4: And we announced a 50 million share repurchase program, adding another important tool to manage capital. On the visibility front, conferences and events during the quarter, including Solana Breakpoint, Maxim, Cantor, Rothschild, Roth, ClearStreet, and others.
Speaker #4: These resulted in myriad presentations and panels, as well as an over 100 investor meetings where we continue to evangelize both Solana and UPEXI. And we continue to appear in many news articles and podcasts throughout the quarter.
Speaker #4: Put simply, Solana is executing on its internet capital markets roadmap, and Upexi is adding additional value for shareholders. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Andrew Norstrud, for a review of our
Brian Rudick: And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Andrew Nordstrud, for a review of our financial performance.
Brian Rudick: And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Andrew Nordstrud, for a review of our financial performance.
Speaker #4: financial performance. Thank you,
Andrew Norstrud: Thank you, Brian. As of 31 December 2025, the company had approximately $1.6 million in cash and 2.17 million Solana tokens. 1.32 million of those tokens were liquid, 850,000 of those tokens were locked. For the six months ended 31 December 2025, the company had digital asset revenue of approximately $11.2 million or approximately 65,700 tokens added. We expect to increase the number of tokens we hold in our Treasury each quarter and also increase the quarterly revenue from the Treasury. The direct Treasury expenses for the six months ended 31 December 2025 were approximately $6 million, which included management fees, custodial fees, service fees, and interest. For the six months ended 31 December 2025, the Treasury had an unrealized loss on digital assets of approximately $86.4 million, reflective of the Solana price per token of $124.48 at 31 December 2025.
Andrew Norstrud: Thank you, Brian. As of 31 December 2025, the company had approximately $1.6 million in cash and 2.17 million Solana tokens. 1.32 million of those tokens were liquid, 850,000 of those tokens were locked. For the six months ended 31 December 2025, the company had digital asset revenue of approximately $11.2 million or approximately 65,700 tokens added. We expect to increase the number of tokens we hold in our Treasury each quarter and also increase the quarterly revenue from the Treasury. The direct Treasury expenses for the six months ended 31 December 2025 were approximately $6 million, which included management fees, custodial fees, service fees, and interest. For the six months ended 31 December 2025, the Treasury had an unrealized loss on digital assets of approximately $86.4 million, reflective of the Solana price per token of $124.48 at 31 December 2025.
Speaker #5: Brian. As of December 31st, the company had approximately $1.6 million in cash and $2.17 million in Solana tokens. $1.32 million of those tokens were liquid, and $850,000 of those tokens were locked.
Speaker #5: For the six months ended December 31st, 2025, the company had digital asset revenue of approximately $11.2 million, or approximately $65,700 tokens added. We expect to increase the number of tokens we hold in our treasury each quarter and also increase the quarterly revenue from the treasury.
Speaker #5: The direct treasury expenses for the six months ended December 31, 2025, were approximately $6 million, which included management fees, custodial fees, service fees, and interest.
Speaker #5: For the six months ended December 31, 2025, the treasury had an unrealized loss on digital assets of approximately $86.4 million, reflective of the Solana price per token of $124.48 at December 31, 2025.
Speaker #5: There is no comparable financial information for the prior period, as the digital treasury was started in April 2025. The company continues to develop the digital asset treasury with a focus on maximizing the return for shareholders and had approximately 95% of all tokens staked as of December 31, 2025.
Andrew Norstrud: There are no comparable financial information for the prior period as the digital Treasury was started in April of 2025. The company continues to develop the digital asset Treasury with a focus on maximizing the return for shareholders and had approximately 95% of all tokens staked at 31 December 2025. For the second quarter, total revenue was approximately $8.1 million, an increase of approximately $4 million or just over 100%, compared to $4 million in the prior year quarter. For the six months period ended 31 December 2025, total revenue was $17.3 million, compared to $8.4 million in the prior period. This increase reflects the addition of digital asset Treasury business in 2025. The net loss for the quarter was approximately $178.9 million or approximately $2.94 per share.
Andrew Norstrud: There are no comparable financial information for the prior period as the digital Treasury was started in April of 2025. The company continues to develop the digital asset Treasury with a focus on maximizing the return for shareholders and had approximately 95% of all tokens staked at 31 December 2025. For the second quarter, total revenue was approximately $8.1 million, an increase of approximately $4 million or just over 100%, compared to $4 million in the prior year quarter. For the six months period ended 31 December 2025, total revenue was $17.3 million, compared to $8.4 million in the prior period. This increase reflects the addition of digital asset Treasury business in 2025. The net loss for the quarter was approximately $178.9 million or approximately $2.94 per share.
Speaker #5: For the second quarter, total revenue was approximately $8.1 million, an increase of approximately $4 million, or just over 100%. This compares to $4 million in the prior year quarter.
Speaker #5: For the six months period ended December 31st, 2025, total revenue was $17.3 million, compared to $8.4 million in the prior period. This increase reflects the addition of digital asset treasury business in 2025.
Speaker #5: The net loss for the quarter was approximately $178.9 million, or approximately $2.94 per share. This loss was primarily driven by the $164.5 million of unrealized losses on digital assets, reflecting non-cash quarter-end fair value adjustments as well as approximately $8.3 million of stock compensation expense.
Andrew Norstrud: This loss was primarily driven by the $164.5 million of unrealized losses on digital assets, reflecting non-cash quarter-end fair value adjustments, as well as approximately $8.3 million of stock compensation expense. Excluding these fair value changes, the underlying Treasury performance has remained strong. We increased the number of Solana tokens in our Treasury during the quarter by approximately 106,000 tokens. The increase was driven by spot token purchases, partially offset by a decline in the locked Solana through a swap transaction. We continue to strengthen our balance sheet in light of the changing market environment. Due primarily to accretive equity raises previously mentioned, we currently have approximately $9.7 million of cash on hand. Management continues to focus on growing Solana's holdings on a per-share basis through disciplined capital activities, staking yield, and opportunistic purchases of discounted locked tokens while maintaining prudent leverage and risk management.
Andrew Norstrud: This loss was primarily driven by the $164.5 million of unrealized losses on digital assets, reflecting non-cash quarter-end fair value adjustments, as well as approximately $8.3 million of stock compensation expense. Excluding these fair value changes, the underlying Treasury performance has remained strong. We increased the number of Solana tokens in our Treasury during the quarter by approximately 106,000 tokens. The increase was driven by spot token purchases, partially offset by a decline in the locked Solana through a swap transaction. We continue to strengthen our balance sheet in light of the changing market environment. Due primarily to accretive equity raises previously mentioned, we currently have approximately $9.7 million of cash on hand. Management continues to focus on growing Solana's holdings on a per-share basis through disciplined capital activities, staking yield, and opportunistic purchases of discounted locked tokens while maintaining prudent leverage and risk management.
Speaker #5: Excluding these fair value changes, the underlying treasury performance has remained strong. We increased the number of Solana tokens in our treasury during the quarter by approximately 106,000 tokens.
Speaker #5: The increase was driven by spot token purchases, partially offset by a decline in the locked Solana through a swap transaction. We continue to strengthen our balance sheet in light of the changing market environment.
Speaker #5: Due primarily to accretive equity raises previously mentioned, we currently have approximately $9.7 million of cash on hand. Management continues to focus on growing Solana's holdings on a per-share basis through disciplined capital activities, staking yield, and opportunistic stake purchases of discounted locked tokens.
Speaker #5: while maintaining prudent leverage and risk management. And now I'll turn it back over to Allan for concluding remarks.
Andrew Norstrud: Now I'll turn it back over to Allan for concluding remarks.
Andrew Norstrud: Now I'll turn it back over to Allan for concluding remarks.
Speaker #6: Thanks, Andrew. I wanted to conclude the call by highlighting our top priorities. While we, as always, remain hyper-focused on external visibility and intelligent capital issuance, there are two key initiatives worth highlighting.
Allan Marshall: Thanks, Andrew. I wanted to conclude the call by highlighting our top priorities. While we, as always, remain hyper-focused on external visibility and intelligent capital issuance, there are two key initiatives worth highlighting. The first is a continued focus on accretive growth. We aim to raise capital above NAV to increase our digital assets per share. We will continue to look for ways to raise equity capital in the most cost-effective manner available. Additionally, we will also continue to issue in-kind convertible notes at a premium to NAV. Such notes offer differentiated risk-reward for investors while significantly reducing credit risk for both parties. Our second key focus going forward is to increase the yield on the Treasury in a low-risk fashion, which we believe would enhance our valuation. If we are successful, we should trade at a sustainable premium, which itself would accelerate the capital market's flywheel.
Allan Marshall: Thanks, Andrew. I wanted to conclude the call by highlighting our top priorities. While we, as always, remain hyper-focused on external visibility and intelligent capital issuance, there are two key initiatives worth highlighting. The first is a continued focus on accretive growth. We aim to raise capital above NAV to increase our digital assets per share. We will continue to look for ways to raise equity capital in the most cost-effective manner available. Additionally, we will also continue to issue in-kind convertible notes at a premium to NAV. Such notes offer differentiated risk-reward for investors while significantly reducing credit risk for both parties. Our second key focus going forward is to increase the yield on the Treasury in a low-risk fashion, which we believe would enhance our valuation. If we are successful, we should trade at a sustainable premium, which itself would accelerate the capital market's flywheel.
Speaker #6: The first is a continued focus on accretive growth. We aim to raise capital above NAV to increase our digital assets per share. We will continue to look for ways to raise equity capital in the most cost-effective manner available.
Speaker #6: Additionally, we will also continue to issue in-kind convertible notes at a premium to NAV. Such notes offer differentiated risk-reward for investors while significantly reducing credit risk for both parties.
Speaker #6: Our second key focus going forward is to increase the yield on the treasury in a low-risk fashion, which we will believe would enhance our valuation.
Speaker #6: If we are successful, we should trade at a sustainable premium, which itself would accelerate the capital market's flywheel. In closing, we've remained active even in a significant downtrend.
Allan Marshall: In closing, we have remained active even in a significant downtrend, completing both a capital raise and an in-kind convert, both at slightly or above NAV. While this has not helped stem the downturn or the stock performance, we believe it will accelerate the upturn when Solana and crypto begin to recover from the current drawdown. With that, I'll turn it over to the operator for questions.
Allan Marshall: In closing, we have remained active even in a significant downtrend, completing both a capital raise and an in-kind convert, both at slightly or above NAV. While this has not helped stem the downturn or the stock performance, we believe it will accelerate the upturn when Solana and crypto begin to recover from the current drawdown. With that, I'll turn it over to the operator for questions.
Speaker #6: Completing both a capital raise and an in-kind convert, both at slightly or above NAV. While this has not helped stem the downturn or the stock performance, we believe it will accelerate the upturn when Solana and crypto begin to recover from the current drawdown.
Speaker #6: With that, I'll turn it over to the operator for questions.
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Speaker #7: Our first question is from Brian Kinslinger with Alliance Global Partners. Please proceed.
Speaker #8: Great, thanks. Excuse me. Thanks for taking my questions. With the recent pressure on Solana, coupled with your high conviction, is there any change in terms of your capital raising strategy?
Brian Kinstlinger: Great. Thanks. Excuse me. Thanks for taking my questions. With the recent pressure on Solana coupled with your high conviction, is there any change in terms of your capital raising strategy? Are you more willing to raise capital at a lower premium MNAV so to reduce your average purchase price? And then is the goal to use the ATM as much as possible to lower your cost of capital?
Brian Kinstlinger: Great. Thanks. Excuse me. Thanks for taking my questions. With the recent pressure on Solana coupled with your high conviction, is there any change in terms of your capital raising strategy? Are you more willing to raise capital at a lower premium MNAV so to reduce your average purchase price? And then is the goal to use the ATM as much as possible to lower your cost of capital?
Speaker #8: Are you more willing to raise capital at a lower premium MNAV, sort of reduce your average purchase price, and then is the goal to use the ATM as much as possible to lower your cost of—
Speaker #8: capital? I
Speaker #6: think I'll jump in here, Brian, Sal and Marshall. I don't think we've changed our perspective at all on this. We have one of the lowest costs on Solana tokens.
Allan Marshall: I think I'll jump in here, Brian, to Allan Marshall. I don't think we've changed our perspective at all on this. We have one of the lowest costs on Solana tokens. We were able to, like we said, do two capital raises subsequent to the quarter end with the one with Hivemind and then the cash one not too long ago, just over NAV. So we don't want to panic here or I shouldn't say panic, but make decisions based on just daily movement. We continue to bring that cost down. We'll definitely be open to raising capital as that gap to NAV closes again, but we're still going to look to raise above NAV or at NAV as often as possible. The ATM, obviously, is the lowest cost.
Allan Marshall: I think I'll jump in here, Brian, to Allan Marshall. I don't think we've changed our perspective at all on this. We have one of the lowest costs on Solana tokens. We were able to, like we said, do two capital raises subsequent to the quarter end with the one with Hivemind and then the cash one not too long ago, just over NAV. So we don't want to panic here or I shouldn't say panic, but make decisions based on just daily movement. We continue to bring that cost down. We'll definitely be open to raising capital as that gap to NAV closes again, but we're still going to look to raise above NAV or at NAV as often as possible. The ATM, obviously, is the lowest cost.
Speaker #6: We were able to, like we said, do two capital raises subsequent to the quarter-end with the one with Hivemind and then the cash one not too long ago, just over NAV.
Speaker #6: So, we don't want to panic here—or I shouldn't say panic—but make decisions based on just daily movement. We continue to bring that cost down.
Speaker #6: We'll definitely be open to raising capital as that gap to NAV closes again, but we're still going to look to raise above NAV or at NAV as often as possible.
Speaker #6: The ATM, obviously, is the lowest cost. Now that we have all the tools in place going forward, we'll certainly be willing to use that, but we'll also be willing to sell Solana to buy stock back if that gap gets too wide as well.
Allan Marshall: Now that we have all the tools in place going forward, we'll certainly be willing to use that, but we'll also be willing to sell Solana to buy stock back if that gap gets too wide as well.
Allan Marshall: Now that we have all the tools in place going forward, we'll certainly be willing to use that, but we'll also be willing to sell Solana to buy stock back if that gap gets too wide as well.
Speaker #8: Well, to that point, you've got $9.7 million of cash. How do you weigh buying SOL versus keeping a reserve?
Brian Kinstlinger: Well, to that point, you've got $9.7 million of cash. How do you weigh buying SOL versus keeping a reserve?
Brian Kinstlinger: Well, to that point, you've got $9.7 million of cash. How do you weigh buying SOL versus keeping a reserve?
Speaker #6: I think the one thing that this downturn has taught everybody is to keep a reserve, right? The volatility has been, even—I think even from the crypto news—it would be considered pretty volatile in such a short period of time, especially into what everyone considers tailwinds.
Allan Marshall: I think the one thing that this downturn has taught everybody is to keep a reserve, right? The volatility has been even, I think, even from the crypto news, would be considered pretty volatile in such a short period of time, especially into what everyone considers tailwinds. So right now, we're going to just be prudent. We do think we're getting close to washing out at the bottom here. Hopefully, it'll bounce around for a while and recover. So cash reserves are okay. What we've done is just kind of stoked the balance sheet, make sure that we're set. The other thing with the whole market, and I said it in our call, is the options market and everything are getting much more liquid. So you're going to have a lot more opportunity to hedge these positions or to partially hedge these positions.
Allan Marshall: I think the one thing that this downturn has taught everybody is to keep a reserve, right? The volatility has been even, I think, even from the crypto news, would be considered pretty volatile in such a short period of time, especially into what everyone considers tailwinds. So right now, we're going to just be prudent. We do think we're getting close to washing out at the bottom here. Hopefully, it'll bounce around for a while and recover. So cash reserves are okay. What we've done is just kind of stoked the balance sheet, make sure that we're set. The other thing with the whole market, and I said it in our call, is the options market and everything are getting much more liquid. So you're going to have a lot more opportunity to hedge these positions or to partially hedge these positions.
Speaker #6: So right now, we're going to just be prudent. We do think we're getting close to washing out at the bottom here. Hopefully, it'll bounce around for a while and recover.
Speaker #6: So cash reserves are okay. What we've done is just kind of shore up the balance sheet, make sure that we're set. The other thing with the whole market and I said it in our call is the options market and everything are getting much more liquid.
Speaker #6: So you're going to have a lot more opportunity to hedge these positions, or to partially hedge these positions. We tried to do it earlier in the year.
Allan Marshall: We tried to do it earlier in the year. We're just unable to get a liquid enough market to do the size we want it. Looking back, we wish we could have, but with all of the new kind of attention to it, all of the ETFs launching, liquidity is coming. So everything's maturing, and I think all of that's going to still bring a lot of opportunity, both to raise capital again, to hedge in any movements, to sit on cash. Right now, we're just, in general, playing it as close to the vest we can, but we're still looking to grow.
Allan Marshall: We tried to do it earlier in the year. We're just unable to get a liquid enough market to do the size we want it. Looking back, we wish we could have, but with all of the new kind of attention to it, all of the ETFs launching, liquidity is coming. So everything's maturing, and I think all of that's going to still bring a lot of opportunity, both to raise capital again, to hedge in any movements, to sit on cash. Right now, we're just, in general, playing it as close to the vest we can, but we're still looking to grow.
Speaker #6: We're just unable to get a liquid enough market to do the size we want it. Looking back, we wish we could have, but with all of the new kind of attention to it, all of the ETFs launching, liquidity is coming.
Speaker #6: So everything's maturing, and I think all of that's going to still bring a lot of opportunity—both to raise capital again, to hedge in any movements, to sit on cash.
Speaker #6: Right now, we're just, in general, playing it as close to the vest we can, but we're still looking to grow.
Speaker #8: Right. My last question is, you've alluded to your high-yield strategy plans. I think you had a press release a while back on that, too.
Brian Kinstlinger: Great. My last question is, you've alluded to your high-yield strategy plans. I think you had a press release a while back on that too. Any more you can share? We've seen a number of DAX lender digital coins. They've generated a much higher return. I guess I'm curious, is there a lower appetite for would-be partners for this type of transaction given the pressure in cryptocurrency, or are there still a number of parties that have a high degree of interest in something's imminent?
Brian Kinstlinger: Great. My last question is, you've alluded to your high-yield strategy plans. I think you had a press release a while back on that too. Any more you can share? We've seen a number of DAX lender digital coins. They've generated a much higher return. I guess I'm curious, is there a lower appetite for would-be partners for this type of transaction given the pressure in cryptocurrency, or are there still a number of parties that have a high degree of interest in something's imminent?
Speaker #8: Any more you can share, we've seen a number of DAX lender, digital coins, they've generated a much higher return. I guess I'm curious, is there a lower appetite for would-be partners for this type of transaction given the pressure in cryptocurrency, or are there still a number of parties that have a high degree of interest in something's imminent?
Speaker #8: Any more you can share, we've seen a number of DAX lender, digital coins, they've generated a much higher return. I guess I'm curious, is there a lower appetite for would-be partners for this type of transaction given the pressure in cryptocurrency, or are there still a number of parties that have a high degree of interest in something's
Speaker #6: A couple of things. One is, I want to see how that yield we understand how they're looping those tokens and everything. I don't believe that creates the yield that they're talking about.
Allan Marshall: A couple of things. One is, I want to see how that yield. We understand how they're looping those tokens and everything. I don't believe that creates the yield that they're talking about, so I want to see how that's. I'm not sure it's presented in an apples-to-apples presentation, so we want to see that. However, we are currently going through the exercise to pinpoint the risk-adjusted, high-yield strategies we're looking for or opportunities. While we do believe there's a time and a place for on-chain yield, today is not it for us. We're still not willing to go on-chain. We're still waiting for that regulatory clarity. The on-chain comes with additional smart contract liquidation risks. We don't want to enter into any of that. Like you said, with that volatility and those yields can also compress.
Allan Marshall: A couple of things. One is, I want to see how that yield. We understand how they're looping those tokens and everything. I don't believe that creates the yield that they're talking about, so I want to see how that's. I'm not sure it's presented in an apples-to-apples presentation, so we want to see that. However, we are currently going through the exercise to pinpoint the risk-adjusted, high-yield strategies we're looking for or opportunities. While we do believe there's a time and a place for on-chain yield, today is not it for us. We're still not willing to go on-chain. We're still waiting for that regulatory clarity. The on-chain comes with additional smart contract liquidation risks. We don't want to enter into any of that. Like you said, with that volatility and those yields can also compress.
Speaker #6: So I want to see how that's—I'm not sure it's presented in an apples-to-apples presentation, so we want to see that. However, we are currently going through the exercise to pinpoint the risk-adjusted, high-yield strategies we're looking for or opportunities.
Speaker #6: What we do believe is there's a time and a place for on-chain yield. Today is not it for us. We're still not willing to go on-chain; we're still waiting for that regulatory clarity.
Speaker #6: The on-chain comes with additional smart contract liquidation risks. We don't want to enter into any of that. Like you said, with that volatility—and those yields can also compress.
Speaker #6: So, we're looking at it as something more familiar and really easily understood by traditional investors; we're looking at something that's more familiar in the markets.
Allan Marshall: So what we're looking at is a more familiar and really easily understood by traditional kind of investors. We're looking at something that's more familiar in the markets. We're going to try to launch that here into Q2, so April forward. And at that point, we'll kind of give more clarity on how we're doing that. But it's not on-chain. That's all I can tell you for now.
Allan Marshall: So what we're looking at is a more familiar and really easily understood by traditional kind of investors. We're looking at something that's more familiar in the markets. We're going to try to launch that here into Q2, so April forward. And at that point, we'll kind of give more clarity on how we're doing that. But it's not on-chain. That's all I can tell you for now.
Speaker #6: We're going to try to launch that here into the second quarter, so April forward. And at that point, we'll kind of give more clarity on how we're doing that.
Speaker #6: But it's not on-chain. That's all I can tell you for now.
Speaker #8: Okay. Thanks for taking my questions.
Brian Kinstlinger: Okay. Thanks for taking my questions.
Brian Kinstlinger: Okay. Thanks for taking my questions.
Speaker #6: No problem.
Allan Marshall: No problem.
Allan Marshall: No problem.
Speaker #9: As a reminder, this is star one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to ask a question, our next question is from Brett Nablock with Cantor Fitzgerald.
Operator: As a reminder, there's star 1 on your telephone keypad if you would like to ask a question. Our next question is from Brett Knoblauch with Cantor Fitzgerald. Please proceed.
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Speaker #9: Please
Speaker #9: proceed.
Speaker #10: Hi,
Speaker #10: Guys, thanks for taking my question. I might have missed this, but is there an updated SOL balance following the direct offering and the placement of the convertible notes?
Brett Knoblauch: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I might have missed this, but is there an updated SOL balance following the direct offering and the placement of the convertible notes? In the press release, it said around 2.4 million. Is that the number that we should be using?
Brett Knoblauch: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I might have missed this, but is there an updated SOL balance following the direct offering and the placement of the convertible notes? In the press release, it said around 2.4 million. Is that the number that we should be using?
Speaker #10: In the press release, it said around 2.4 million. Is that the number that we should be using?
Speaker #6: That's the public number we have so far. It's really close. It's really close to that number. Nothing much has changed.
Allan Marshall: That's the public number we have so far. It's really close. It's really close to that number. Nothing much has changed.
Allan Marshall: That's the public number we have so far. It's really close. It's really close to that number. Nothing much has changed.
Speaker #10: Perfect. Appreciate it. And then, just to maybe double-click on the generating additional yield outside of staking, could you maybe elaborate on what forms of activities you would be participating in?
Brett Knoblauch: Perfect. Appreciate it. And then just to maybe double-click on the generating additional yield outside of staking, could you maybe elaborate on what forms of activities you would be participating in? Obviously, you said nothing on-chain, but any additional color on how or where you would generate additional yield to staking?
Brett Knoblauch: Perfect. Appreciate it. And then just to maybe double-click on the generating additional yield outside of staking, could you maybe elaborate on what forms of activities you would be participating in? Obviously, you said nothing on-chain, but any additional color on how or where you would generate additional yield to staking?
Speaker #10: Obviously, you said nothing on-chain, but any additional color on how or where you would generate additional yield to staking?
Speaker #6: What I'll let Brian step in here, but yeah, what I will say is we will definitely elaborate on that going forward. But right now, we're trying to get it set up the way we want to get it set up.
Allan Marshall: I'll let Brian step in here. But yeah, what I will say is we will definitely elaborate on that going forward. But right now, we're trying to get it set up the way we want to get it set up. But I'll let Brian step in and elaborate a little bit there.
Allan Marshall: I'll let Brian step in here. But yeah, what I will say is we will definitely elaborate on that going forward. But right now, we're trying to get it set up the way we want to get it set up. But I'll let Brian step in and elaborate a little bit there.
Speaker #6: But I'll let Brian step in and elaborate a little bit there.
Speaker #10: Yeah, thanks, Allen. And thanks, Brett. Yeah, as Allen mentioned, we're still in the exploratory phase. We think that we've identified specifically one strategy that can generate high yield in a low-risk way.
Brian Kinstlinger: Yeah. Thanks, Allan, and thanks, Brett. Yeah. As Allan mentioned, we're still in the exploratory phase. We think that we've identified specifically one strategy that can generate high yield in a low-risk way, but we're waiting till we're a bit further along in that path before we reveal too many details. The one thing I'd say is we've got really two key things that we're focused on. One is making sure that this is recurring, and number two, making sure that this is low-risk. And so when we think about it internally, our hurdle rate is that low to mid-teens that we can get on the locked. And so we've bought locked Solana at a 15% discount. When you think of it like OID and you put that 15% discount into a yield equivalent, we stick at the 7% staking yield on that.
Brian Kinstlinger: Yeah. Thanks, Allan, and thanks, Brett. Yeah. As Allan mentioned, we're still in the exploratory phase. We think that we've identified specifically one strategy that can generate high yield in a low-risk way, but we're waiting till we're a bit further along in that path before we reveal too many details. The one thing I'd say is we've got really two key things that we're focused on. One is making sure that this is recurring, and number two, making sure that this is low-risk. And so when we think about it internally, our hurdle rate is that low to mid-teens that we can get on the locked. And so we've bought locked Solana at a 15% discount. When you think of it like OID and you put that 15% discount into a yield equivalent, we stick at the 7% staking yield on that.
Speaker #10: But we're waiting till we're a bit further along in that path before we reveal too many details. The one thing I'd say is we've got really two key things that we're focused on.
Speaker #10: One is making sure that this is recurring. And number two, making sure that this is low-risk. And so, when we think about it internally, our hurdle rate is that low to mid-teens that we can get on the locked.
Speaker #10: And so we've bought locked Solana at a 15% discount. When you think of it like OID and you put that 15% discount into a yield equivalent, we stick at the 7% staking yield on that.
Speaker #10: And so it translates to an all-in low-teens yield. And so that, and we view that as low-risk as well. So that is kind of the hurdle rate of what we're looking to do.
Brian Kinstlinger: So it translates to an all-in low-teens yield. And we view that as low-risk as well. So that is kind of the hurdle rate of what we're looking to do. And everything that we do will be compared against that. But we will give more information in the future as we continue to progress there.
Brian Kinstlinger: So it translates to an all-in low-teens yield. And we view that as low-risk as well. So that is kind of the hurdle rate of what we're looking to do. And everything that we do will be compared against that. But we will give more information in the future as we continue to progress there.
Speaker #10: And everything that we do will be compared against that. But we will give more information in the future as we continue to progress there.
Speaker #10: Perfect. Thanks, guys. Appreciate
Brett Knoblauch: Perfect. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.
Brett Knoblauch: Perfect. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.
Speaker #10: it. There are no more further
Operator: There are no more further questions. I would like to turn the conference back over to Allan Marshall for closing remarks.
Operator: There are no more further questions. I would like to turn the conference back over to Allan Marshall for closing remarks.
Speaker #9: questions. I would like to turn the conference back over to Allen Marshall for closing
Speaker #9: remarks. Well,
Speaker #6: thank everybody for joining the call. I know it's been a tough quarter. For everyone in crypto, like I said, during the call, we do think the future is still bright.
Allan Marshall: Well, thank everybody for joining the call. I know it's been a tough quarter for everyone in crypto. Like I said, during the call, we do think the future is still bright. We think we're on the right path. And thank you for the great questions, and we look forward to updating you guys during the quarter and look forward to the next conference call. Thank you very much.
Allan Marshall: Well, thank everybody for joining the call. I know it's been a tough quarter for everyone in crypto. Like I said, during the call, we do think the future is still bright. We think we're on the right path. And thank you for the great questions, and we look forward to updating you guys during the quarter and look forward to the next conference call. Thank you very much.
Speaker #6: We think we're on the right path, and thank you for the great questions. We look forward to updating you guys during the quarter and look forward to the next conference call.
Speaker #6: Thank you very much.
Operator: The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.
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