Q4 2025 ONE Gas Inc Earnings Call

February 19, 2026

Operator: Good day, and welcome to the ONE Gas Q4 and year-end 2025 earnings conference call and webcast. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Erin Dailey. Please go ahead, Ms. Dailey.

Speaker #1: Good day and welcome to the ONE Gas fourth quarter and year-end 2025 earnings conference call and webcast. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Erin Dailey.

Speaker #1: Please go ahead, Ms. Dailey.

Speaker #2: Good morning, and thank you for joining us to discuss our fourth quarter and year-end financial results. This call is being webcast live, and a replay will be made available later today.

Erin Dailey: Good morning, and thank you for joining us to discuss our fourth quarter and year-end financial results. This call is being webcast live, and a replay will be made available later today. After our prepared remarks, we are happy to take your questions. A reminder that statements made during this call that might include ONE Gas expectations or predictions should be considered forward-looking statements and are covered by the Safe Harbor Provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, the Securities Act of 1933, and the Securities and Exchange Act of 1934, each as amended. Actual results could differ materially from those projected in any forward-looking statement. For a discussion of factors that could cause actual results to differ, please refer to our SEC filings.

Speaker #2: After our prepared remarks, we are happy to take your questions. A reminder that statements made during this call that might include one gas expectations or predictions should be considered forward-looking statements, and are covered by the Safe Harbor Provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, the Securities Act of 1933, and the Securities and Exchange Act of 1934, each as amended.

Speaker #2: Actual results could differ materially from those projected in any forward-looking statement. For a discussion of factors that could cause actual results to differ, please refer to our SEC filings.

Speaker #2: This call will include financial results and guidance with respect to adjusted net income and adjusted net income per share, which are non-GAAP financial measures as defined by the SEC.

Erin Dailey: This call will include financial results and guidance with respect to adjusted net income and adjusted net income per share, which are non-GAAP financial measures as defined by the SEC. A reconciliation of the company's GAAP net income and GAAP earnings per share to adjusted net income and adjusted net income per share is available in the appendix to the earnings release we issued yesterday. Joining me on the call this morning are Sid McAnnally, Chief Executive Officer, Chris Sighinolfi, Chief Financial Officer, and Curtis Dinan, Chief Operating Officer. And now I'll turn the call over to Sid.

Speaker #2: A reconciliation of the company's GAAP net income and GAAP earnings per share to adjusted net income and adjusted net income per share is available in the appendix to the earnings release we issued yesterday.

Speaker #2: Joining me on the call this morning are Sid McAnally, Chief Executive Officer; Chris Signolfi, Chief Financial Officer; and Curtis Dinan, Chief Operating Officer. And now I'll turn the call over to Sid.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Erin, and good morning, everyone. I begin our call today by recognizing our coworkers across the company for their dedication to serving our 2.3 million customers during winter storm Fern.

Sid McAnnally: Thanks, Erin, and good morning, everyone. I begin our call today by recognizing our coworkers across the company for their dedication to serving our 2.3 million customers during Winter Storm Fern. This storm was the first multi-day, sub-freezing event we've experienced since Winter Storm Uri in 2021. On the peak day of the storm, we delivered over 3 billion cubic feet of gas to our customers with no supply disruptions. This performance is a testament to the work completed after Uri, including the Austin system reinforcement, which boosted our available winter peak capacity by approximately 25%. Our post-Uri investments also included a focus on gas supply. We increased our storage capacity to over 60 BCF, implemented strategic reinforcements across our system, and diversified our gas supply, all enhancing reliability and reducing the impact of price fluctuation on our customers.

Speaker #3: This storm was the first multi-day sub-freezing event we've experienced since Winter Storm Yuri in 2021. On the peak day of the storm, we delivered over 3 billion cubic feet of gas to our customers, with no supply disruptions.

Speaker #3: This performance is a testament to the work completed after Yuri, including the Austin system reinforcement, which boosted our available winter peak capacity by approximately 25%.

Speaker #3: Our post-Yuri investments also included a focus on gas supply. We increased our storage capacity to over 60 Bcf, implemented strategic reinforcements across our system, and diversified our gas supply, all enhancing reliability and reducing the impact of price fluctuation on our customers.

Speaker #3: As a result, across our service territory, over 80% of the gas supply needed during the storm was shielded from temporary price increases. Our full-year 2025 financial results were also strong.

Sid McAnnally: As a result, across our service territory, over 80% of the gas supply needed during the storm was shielded from temporary price increases. Our full year 2025 financial results were also strong. In August, based on a solid first half performance and the expected impact of Texas House Bill 4384, we raised the midpoint of our EPS guidance to $4.37. We finished the year fully in line with that mid-summer expectation. This marks our 12th consecutive year of meeting or surpassing the midpoint of our initial EPS guidance. Finally, to ensure that the financial impact of the Texas legislation is appropriately reflected in our disclosures, we've introduced a non-GAAP adjustment to our net income and earnings per share. This update adds clarity to our disclosures and helps better illustrate the earnings that our regulator allows. I'll ask Chris to discuss the details. Chris?

Speaker #3: In August, based on a solid first-half performance and the expected impact of Texas House Bill 4384, we raised the midpoint of our EPS guidance to $4.37.

Speaker #3: We finished the year fully in line with that midsummer expectation. This marks our 12th consecutive year of meeting or surpassing the midpoint of our initial EPS guidance.

Speaker #3: Finally, to ensure that the financial impact of the Texas legislation is appropriately reflected in our disclosures, we've introduced a non-GAAP adjustment to our net income and earnings per share.

Speaker #3: This update adds clarity to our disclosures and helps better illustrate the earnings that our regulator allows. I'll ask Chris to discuss the details. Chris?

Speaker #4: Thanks, Sid, and good morning, everyone. With solid fourth-quarter performance, we delivered full-year financial results squarely in line with our revised guidance. 2025 net income totaled $264 million, or $4.37 per diluted share, compared with $223 million and $3.91 in 2024.

Chris Sighinolfi: Thanks, Sid, and good morning, everyone. With solid fourth quarter performance, we delivered full-year financial results squarely in line with our revised guidance. 2025 net income totaled $264 million or $4.37 per diluted share, compared with $223 million or $3.91 in 2024. Capital expenditures totaled $760 million for the year. As Sid noted, we have introduced non-GAAP adjustments to our financial reports and our earnings guidance. These adjustments offer a comprehensive view of our performance within the Texas regulatory model and better reflect the returns allowed by our regulator. I want to spend a moment detailing specifically what these adjustments represent and why we are introducing them now.

Speaker #4: Capital expenditures totaled $760 million for the year. As Sid noted, we have introduced non-GAAP adjustments to our financial reports and our earnings guidance. These adjustments offer a comprehensive view of our performance, within the Texas regulatory model, and better reflect the returns allowed by our regulator.

Speaker #4: I want to spend a moment detailing specifically what these adjustments represent and why we are introducing them now. In 2011, the Texas Railroad Commission adopted Rule 8.209 of the Texas Administrative Code.

Chris Sighinolfi: In 2011, the Texas Railroad Commission adopted Rule 8.209 of the Texas Administrative Code. This rule allows natural gas utilities to defer depreciation expense and ad valorem taxes, and accrue a carrying cost on qualifying safety-related capital expenditures between the time of project in service and its inclusion in rates. Texas House Bill 4384, signed into law last June, extends the approved deferrals and accruals of Rule 8.209 to all capital expenditures in the state. The carrying cost allowed to be accrued under both provisions is defined as the unrecovered gross plant, multiplied by the utility's pre-tax weighted average cost of capital, as established in its most recent rate proceeding. As we know, weighted average cost of capital includes a return on debt and a return on equity.

Speaker #4: This rule allows natural gas utilities to defer depreciation expense and ad valorem taxes and accrue a carrying cost on qualifying safety-related capital expenditures between the time of project in service and its inclusion in rates.

Speaker #4: Texas House Bill 4384, signed into law last June, extends the approved deferrals and accruals of Rule 8.209 to all capital expenditures in the state.

Speaker #4: The carrying cost allowed to be accrued under both provisions is defined as the unrecovered gross plant multiplied by the utility's pre-tax weighted average cost of capital as established in its most recent rate proceeding.

Speaker #4: As we know, weighted average cost of capital includes a return on debt and a return on equity. It is specifically the accrual and allowed recovery of this equity return and the timing of its impact that cause a delta between our regulatory books in Texas and our reported GAAP financials.

Chris Sighinolfi: It is specifically the accrual and allowed recovery of this equity return and the timing of its impact, that cause a delta between our regulatory books in Texas and our reported GAAP financials. This difference in treatment between our regulatory accounting and GAAP accounting has existed since the adoption of Rule 8.209 in 2011, but it represented a modest annual impact when only Rule 8.209 applied. For example, in 2024, this difference was approximately $2 million, or roughly $0.03 per diluted share. With the expansion of qualifying capital under House Bill 4384 last year, this delta widened to nearly $7 million, or roughly $0.11 per diluted share.

Speaker #4: This difference in treatment between our regulatory accounting and GAAP accounting has existed since the adoption of Rule 8.209 in 2011. But it represented a modest annual impact when only Rule 8.209 applied.

Speaker #4: For example, in 2024, this difference was approximately $2 million. Or roughly $0.03 per diluted share. With the expansion of qualifying capital under House Bill 4384 last year, this delta widened to nearly $7 million.

Speaker #4: Or roughly $0.11 per diluted share. With a full year of impact in 2026, we anticipate it will constitute an approximate $12 million variance, roughly $0.18 per diluted share, or 4% of our projected consolidated full-year EPS.

Chris Sighinolfi: With a full year of impact in 2026, we anticipate it will constitute an approximate $12 million variance, roughly $0.18 per diluted share, or 4% of our projected consolidated full-year EPS. In sum, this difference in treatment is a fundamental aspect of our regulatory framework and an embedded feature of our financial profile. Texas House Bill 4384 has amplified the impact of these adjustments and with them, meaningfully increased the persistent delta between regulatory accounting and GAAP accounting. For these reasons, we will report non-GAAP adjusted net income and EPS figures as key indicators of business performance going forward. Adjusted net income for Q4 was $90 million, or $1.48 per diluted share, compared with $78 million and $1.35 in the same period in 2024.

Speaker #4: In sum, this difference in treatment is a fundamental aspect of our regulatory framework and an embedded feature of our financial profile. Texas House Bill 4384 has amplified the impact of these adjustments and, with them, meaningfully increased the persistent delta between regulatory accounting and GAAP accounting.

Speaker #4: For these reasons, we will report non-GAAP adjusted net income and EPS figures as key indicators of business performance going forward. Adjusted net income for the fourth quarter was $90 million, or $1.48 per diluted share.

Speaker #4: Compared with $78 million and $1.35 in the same period in 2024. For the full year, adjusted net income was $271 million, or $4.48 per diluted share.

Chris Sighinolfi: For the full year, adjusted net income was $271 million, or $4.48 per diluted share, compared with $225 million and $3.94 in 2024. Our expected financial performance, as expressed in our 2026 financial guidance, has not changed, but we intend to also provide guidance based on our adjusted numbers going forward. So for 2026, we expect adjusted net income in the range of $306 million to $314 million, and adjusted earnings per share in the range of $4.83 to $4.95. Consistent with our previously communicated five-year financial outlook, we expect long-term adjusted net income growth of 7% to 9% and adjusted EPS growth of 5% to 7%.

Speaker #4: Compared with $225 million and $3.94 in 2024. Our expected financial performance as expressed in our 2026 financial guidance has not changed, but we intend to also provide guidance based on our adjusted numbers going forward.

Speaker #4: So for 2026, we expect adjusted net income in the range of $306 million to $314 million, and adjusted earnings per share in the range of $4.83 to $4.95.

Speaker #4: Consistent with our previously communicated five-year financial outlook, we expect long-term adjusted net income growth of 7% to 9% and adjusted EPS growth of 5% to 7%.

Speaker #4: These growth rates now use adjusted 2025 actual results as the baseline for the 2026 through 2030 planning period. Implying a 2030 adjusted EPS midpoint of roughly $6.

Chris Sighinolfi: These growth rates now use adjusted 2025 actual results as the baseline for the 2026 through 2030 planning period, implying a 2030 adjusted EPS midpoint of roughly $6. Turning to other financial results, O&M expense for the full year was up approximately 5% over 2024, slightly above our 4% CAGR guidance. As I noted on our Q3 call, we had the opportunity and capacity to execute some projects earlier than we had initially planned, resulting in the slightly elevated expense rate for 2025. Executing certain projects ahead of schedule is another example of how we continually look for ways to deliver improvements more efficiently while maintaining financial discipline. Our long-term outlook continues to project a 3% to 4% O&M CAGR, as indicated in our guidance...

Speaker #4: Turning to other financial results, ONM expense for the full year was up approximately 5% over 2024, slightly above our 4% CAGR guidance. As I noted on our third-quarter call, we had the opportunity and capacity to execute some projects earlier than we had initially planned.

Speaker #4: Resulting in the slightly elevated expense rate for 2025. Executing certain projects ahead of schedule is another example of how we continually look for ways to deliver improvements more efficiently while maintaining financial discipline.

Speaker #4: Our long-term outlook continues to project a 3% to 4% ONM CAGR, as indicated in our guidance. Excluding amounts related to KGSS-1, interest expense in the quarter was $2.9 million lower year over year, primarily reflecting lower rates on commercial paper borrowings and the implementation of Texas House Bill 4384.

Chris Sighinolfi: Excluding amounts related to KGSS1, interest expense in the quarter was $2.9 million lower year-over-year, primarily reflecting lower rates on commercial paper borrowings and the implementation of Texas House Bill 4384. We benefited from Federal Reserve rate cuts in 2024 and 2025, which we anticipated, though they occurred more quickly than we had assumed in our plan. As a reminder, we have assumed no further rate cuts in 2026. As with everything we do, we are focused on efficient execution of our financing strategy, so any future rate cuts flow through to our bottom line. Our balance sheet remains strong. In December, S&P affirmed its A- credit rating and stable outlook, and earlier this month, Moody's affirmed its A3 rating and stable outlook.

Speaker #4: We benefited from federal reserve rate cuts in 2024 and 2025, which we anticipated, though they occurred more quickly than we had assumed in our plan.

Speaker #4: As a reminder, we have assumed no further rate cuts in 2026. As with everything we do, we are focused on efficient execution of our financing strategy so any future rate cuts flow through to our bottom line.

Speaker #4: Our balance sheet remains strong. In December, S&P affirmed its A-minus credit rating and stable outlook. And earlier this month, Moody's affirmed its A3 rating and stable outlook.

Speaker #4: 2025 cash flow metrics were several hundred basis points above our respective downgrade thresholds with both agencies, and our financial plan supports similar performance going forward.

Chris Sighinolfi: 2025 cash flow metrics were several hundred basis points above our respective downgrade thresholds with both agencies, and our financial plan supports similar performance going forward. With that, Curtis, I'll turn it to you.

Speaker #4: With that, Curtis, I'll turn it to you.

Speaker #5: Thank you, Chris. And good morning, everyone. I'll begin with an update on regulatory and legislative activity. Earlier this month, we received a final order in the Texas rate case.

Curtis Dinan: Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. I'll begin with an update on regulatory and legislative activity. Earlier this month, we received a final order in the Texas rate case. The Texas Railroad Commission approved a $14.4 million revenue increase, a 9.8% return on equity, and a 59.9% equity ratio. The commission also approved consolidation of our three remaining Texas jurisdictions into a single statewide division. We plan to make one GRIP filing for Texas Gas Service and our PBR filing in Oklahoma later this quarter. Our Kansas GSRS filing is planned for April. We have no full rate cases planned until the Oklahoma filing in 2027, as required by our tariff. Turning to legislative activity, we are supporting proposed legislation in Kansas that would allow for more efficient recovery of the capital we invest in the Kansas Gas Service system.

Speaker #5: The Railroad Commission approved a $14.4 million revenue increase; a 9.8% return on equity; and a 59.9% equity ratio. The Commission also approved consolidation of our three remaining Texas jurisdictions into a single statewide division.

Speaker #5: We plan to make one grip filing for Texas Gas Service and our PBR filing in Oklahoma later this quarter. Our Kansas GSRS filing is planned for April.

Speaker #5: We have no full rate cases planned until the Oklahoma filing in 2027 as required by our tariff. Turning to legislative activity, we are supporting proposed legislation in Kansas that would allow for more efficient recovery of the capital we invest in the Kansas Gas Service system.

Speaker #5: We view this as a constructive step towards better aligning capital recovery with investment timing as we help to advance ongoing economic development in Kansas.

Curtis Dinan: We view this as a constructive step towards better aligning capital recovery with investment timing as we help to advance ongoing economic development in Kansas. Moving on to operations and commercial activity. Our strong finish to the year reflects the consistent, disciplined execution of our capital plan, which is designed to support growth while staying closely aligned with our affordability, safety, and reliability commitments. We completed $760 million worth of capital investment projects during 2025, with $170 million dedicated to serving our growing customer base. An example of the investments we're making is the new pipeline announced in December, where ONE Gas will invest roughly $120 million to deliver over 100 billion cubic feet of natural gas annually to Western Farmers Electric Cooperative in southeastern Oklahoma.

Speaker #5: Moving on to operations and commercial activity. Our strong finish to the year reflects the consistent disciplined execution of our capital plan, which is designed to support growth while staying closely aligned with our affordability, safety, and reliability commitments.

Speaker #5: We completed $760 million worth of capital investment projects during 2025, with $170 million dedicated to serving our growing customer base. An example of the investments we're making is the new pipeline announced in December, where ONE Gas will invest roughly $120 million to deliver over 100 billion cubic feet of natural gas annually to Western Farmers Electric Cooperative in southeastern Oklahoma.

Speaker #5: This project will support a new natural gas-fueled generation plant and create capacity for future economic growth across the region. We have also broken ground on a project to serve an advanced manufacturing plant outside of El Paso, which is on track to be in service by the third quarter of this year.

Curtis Dinan: This project will support a new natural gas fuel generation plant and create capacity for future economic growth across the region. We have also broken ground on a project to serve an advanced manufacturing plant outside of El Paso, which is on track to be in service by Q3 of this year. This is another project that supports reliability and system growth without increasing costs for residential customers. Both projects were included in our guidance. Beyond these projects, we continue to add about 23,000 new residential customers each year. Growth in our customer base allows us to spread costs more efficiently, helping keep service affordable. In addition to our customer-focused growth strategy, our overall approach to running the business ensures customer affordability remains a key priority. Sid alluded to some of the steps we take to mitigate gas costs.

Speaker #5: This is another project that supports reliability and system growth without increasing costs for residential customers. Both projects were included in our guidance. Beyond these projects, we continue to add about 23,000 new residential customers each year.

Speaker #5: Growth in our customer base allows us to spread costs more efficiently, helping keep service affordable. In addition to our customer-focused growth strategy, our overall approach to running the business ensures customer affordability remains a key priority.

Speaker #5: Sid alluded to some of the steps we take to mitigate gas cost. Examples include sourcing gas at the Waha Hub, which often offers favorable pricing, increasing our storage by 20%, and using physical and financial hedges to mitigate temporary price fluctuations like we saw last month.

Curtis Dinan: Examples include sourcing gas at the Waha Hub, which often offers favorable pricing, increasing our storage by 20%, and using physical and financial hedges to mitigate temporary price fluctuations like we saw last month. We're also focused on long-term value and efficiency as we make staffing and operational decisions. Our insourcing program is a good example. While onboarding and training new employees temporarily increases cost, the long-term benefits are clear. Our teams operate more efficiently, deliver stronger performance, and create a pipeline of future talent. We completed 1.3 million line locates last year and now perform about 40% of that work in-house. Insourcing this work has delivered significant operational improvements as our ratio of total excavation damages per 1,000 locates, a common industry metric, decreased by over 14% year-over-year, even though we experienced an 8% increase in ticket volumes.

Speaker #5: We're also focused on long-term value and efficiency as we make staffing and operational decisions. Our insourcing program is a good example. While onboarding and training new employees temporarily increases costs, the long-term benefits are clear.

Speaker #5: Our teams operate more efficiently, deliver stronger performance, and create a pipeline of future talent. We completed 1.3 million line locates last year, and now perform about 40% of that work in-house.

Speaker #5: Insourcing this work has delivered significant operational improvements, as our ratio of total excavation damages per 1,000 locates—a common industry metric—decreased by over 14% year over year, even though we experienced an 8% increase in ticket volumes.

Speaker #5: Bringing this work in-house reflects our broader focus on improving execution, reducing long-term cost, and strengthening our operational capabilities. Our efforts to run the business efficiently have paid off as we have kept our cumulative residential bill CAGR below inflation at just under 2% while continuing to deliver top-tier safety performance.

Curtis Dinan: Bringing this work in-house reflects our broader focus on improving execution, reducing long-term costs, and strengthening our operational capabilities. Our efforts to run the business efficiently have paid off as we have kept our cumulative residential bill CAGR below inflation at just under 2%, while continuing to deliver top-tier safety performance. Now I'll turn it back to Sid for closing remarks.

Speaker #5: And now I'll turn it back to Sid for closing remarks. Thank you, Curtis. Yesterday, we announced that Curtis will take on an expanded role as President and Chief Operating Officer.

Sid McAnnally: Thank you, Curtis. Yesterday, we announced that Curtis will take on an expanded role as President and Chief Operating Officer.

Speaker #5: As our system continues to grow and the number and scale of new projects increases, this change will allow us to leverage the experience that Curtis brings from both his time in operations as COO and his financial experience as CFO in the early years of our company.

Curtis Dinan: ...As our system continues to grow and the number and scale of new projects increases, this change will allow us to leverage the experience that Curtis brings from both his time in operations as COO and his financial experience as CFO in the early years of our company. We're fortunate to have someone that combines deep experience across the business with strong leadership skills to take on this expanded role at an exciting time for our company. Operator, we're now ready for questions.

Speaker #5: We're fortunate to have someone that combines deep experience across the business with strong leadership skills to take on this expanded role at an exciting time for our company.

Speaker #5: Operator, we’re now ready for questions.

Operator: Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Again, press star one to ask a question. We'll pause for a moment to allow everyone an opportunity to signal for questions. First question comes from Gabe Moreen with Mizuho. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: ask a question, please signal by pressing star one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment.

Speaker #6: Again, press star one to ask a question. We'll pause for a moment to allow everyone an opportunity to signal for questions. First question comes from Gabe Maureen with Mizuho.

Speaker #6: Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #7: Hey, good morning, everyone, and congrats to Curtis. I'm sure he's looking forward to saving all that time on conference calls talking through only one Texas regulatory jurisdiction at this point.

Gabe Moreen: Hey, good morning, everyone, and congrats to Curtis. I'm sure he's looking forward to saving all that time on conference calls, talking through only one Texas regulatory jurisdiction at this point.

Speaker #5: Thank you, Gabe.

Curtis Dinan: Thank you, Gabe.

Speaker #7: Yeah. I want to start off on some of the non-GAAP adjustments here. I'm curious why, first of all, maybe you couldn't—didn't feel like you could speak to this in December.

Gabe Moreen: Yeah. I want to start off on the, you know, some of the non-GAAP adjustments here. I'm curious why, first of all, maybe you didn't feel like you could speak to this in December, but then sort of as a larger picture here, given that this, I think, is a bit of a material step change as far as kind of your starting point here for EPS growth. Does that also play into kind of equity issuance or needed equity issuance, how you think about your cap structure, your dividend payout ratio, or does it matter less because, you know, this is sort of, as you mentioned, regulatory versus financial accounting?

Speaker #7: But then sort of as a larger picture here, given that this, I think, is a bit of a material step change as far as kind of your starting point here for EPS growth, does that also play into kind of equity issuance or needed equity issuance?

Speaker #7: How do you think about your cap structure, your dividend payout ratio? Or does it matter less because this is sort of, as you mentioned, regulatory versus financial accounting?

Speaker #6: Hi, Gabe. It's Chris. On the timing, a couple of things to note. This was obviously legislation passed in June, and we studied it throughout the period.

Chris Sighinolfi: Hi, Gabe. It's Chris. On the timing, a couple things to note. You know, this was obviously legislation passed in June, and we studied it throughout the period. As you may recall, the Railroad Commission had a 270-day window to draft and pass procedural rules associated with this legislation. We've been party to that process throughout the fall and the early part of the winter. And so, you know, we participated in comments. We looked at early drafts. The final rules are on the RRC agenda for approval at next Tuesday's meeting. So, you know, if there was a final step to solidify our understanding of the state's intent in this legislation, we feel very confident that we know with the final rule sitting for approval, where the state's intent is.

Speaker #6: As you may recall, the railroad commission had a $270-day window to draft and pass procedural rules associated with this legislation. We've been party to that process throughout the fall and the early part of the winter.

Speaker #6: And so participant and comments, we looked at early drafts. The final rules are on the RRC agenda for approval next Tuesday's meeting. So if there was a final step to solidify our understanding of the state's intent in this legislation, we feel very confident that we know with the final rules sitting for approval where the state's intent is.

Speaker #6: And so, that was kind of the final step of it. It was the increase in the magnitude of the delta between regulatory books and GAAP books.

Chris Sighinolfi: That was kind of the final step of it. It was the increase in the magnitude of the delta between regulatory books and GAAP books, and then it was the conclusion of that process that led us to take action on this at this point and not at an earlier juncture. As it pertains to your question as to, you know, the capital market side of the plan, it really doesn't have an effect in a meaningful way on that. The House bill accounting treatment is, in the early part of it, more impactful to earnings than it is to cash flow. And so I wouldn't expect that it would change that in a material way. It may over time, but not initially.

Speaker #6: And then it was the conclusion of that process. That led us to take action on this at this point and not at an earlier juncture.

Speaker #6: As it pertains to your question, as to the capital market side of the plan, it really doesn't have an effect in a meaningful way on that.

Speaker #6: The House Bill accounting treatment is in the early part of it more impactful to earnings than it is to cash flow. And so I wouldn't expect that it would change that in a material way.

Speaker #6: It may over time, but not initially.

Speaker #7: Got it. Thanks, Chris. And then maybe if I can just pivot a little bit to some of the, I think, growth opportunities with the Western Farmers announcement and the like.

Gabe Moreen: Got it. Thanks, Chris. And then maybe if I can just pivot a little bit to some of the, I think, growth opportunities, you know, with the Western Farmers announcement and the like. Can you just talk about sort of the competitive landscape and I think some of the backlog within the projects that I think you, you're in negotiation on? How you're competing with, I think, some other providers, like midstream providers, that also may be looking to lay their lines to additional power gen facilities. How that shapes up within kind of, I think, the regulatory construct that you're probably pitching to potential customers?

Speaker #7: Can you just talk about sort of the competitive landscape and I think some of the backlog in the projects that I think you're in negotiation on how you're competing with, I think, some other providers like midstream providers that also may be looking to lay their lines to additional power gen facilities?

Speaker #7: How that shapes up within, kind of, I think, the regulatory construct that you're probably pitching to potential customers?

Speaker #5: Yeah, Gabe, we try to do early in the process, we have lots of these opportunities coming towards us. And one of the early filters we apply to it is, do we have a competitive advantage to serve that facility?

Curtis Dinan: Yeah, Gabe, it's a really good point. What we try to do early in the process, we have lots of these opportunities coming towards us, and one of the early filters we apply to it is, do we have a competitive advantage to serve that facility? There are some situations where we are very competitively advantaged because of assets we already have nearby to the opportunity, and there's other situations where we're not as competitive. We don't have assets in those areas, so we quickly try to move on from those. You're right, though, where those two things are maybe equal between a midstream provider and us, the tiebreaker often is our regulatory structure and being able to be very transparent about what's included in our rates, how charges to that customer would be funded.

Speaker #5: There are some situations where we are very competitively advantaged because of assets. We already have nearby to the opportunity. And there's other situations where we're not as competitive.

Speaker #5: We don't have assets in those areas. So we quickly try to move on from those. You're right, though, where those two things are maybe equal between a midstream provider and us.

Speaker #5: The tiebreaker often is our regulatory structure and being able to be very transparent about what's included in our rates, how charges to that customer would be funded, if there are any customer payments required for the construction.

Curtis Dinan: If there are any customer payments required for the construction, it's very transparent by being able to look at our tariffs. So I think in many ways, just that transparency gives us a competitive advantage. But that's just one of the pieces of it, in addition to what I was describing as the geographic advantages we have sometimes.

Speaker #5: It's very transparent by being able to look at our tariffs. So I think in many ways, just that transparency gives us a competitive advantage.

Speaker #5: But that's just one of the pieces of it in addition to what I was describing as the geographic advantages we have sometimes.

Speaker #7: Got it. Thanks, Curtis.

Gabe Moreen: Got it. Thanks, Curtis.

Speaker #6: We now turn to poll Zimbardo with Jeffries. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Operator: We now turn to Paul Zimbardo with Jefferies. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Paul Zimbardo: Hi, good morning, team, and congratulations, Curtis, as well.

Speaker #8: Hi. Good morning, team. And congratulations, Curtis, as well.

Speaker #5: Good morning, Paul.

Curtis Dinan: Good morning, Paul.

Speaker #8: Hi. No, thank you. The first question: is there any way that you could frame the potential benefit from that proposed Kansas legislation you mentioned, whether earned are we or net income?

Paul Zimbardo: Hi, notes. Thank you. The first question is there any way that you could frame the potential benefit from that proposed Kansas legislation you mentioned, whether earned early or net income? That'd be helpful.

Speaker #8: That'd be helpful.

Speaker #5: So, Paul, it's still in the early stages. I think just this morning, the proposed bill cleared the House of Representatives. The main parameters in the bill as it's written—that's going to the Senate—is an increase in the types of capital that can be included.

Curtis Dinan: ...So, Paul, it's still in the early stages. I think just this morning, the proposed bill cleared the House of Representatives. The main parameters in the bill, as it's written, that's going to the Senate, is an increase in the types of capital that can be included. Essentially, all of the capital that we invest directly in Kansas would now be part of that GSRS filing, so an expanded universe, so to speak. And then the cap would increase. Today, it is $0.80 per month of impact to a customer. That $0.80 would increase to $1.35. But I would emphasize, it's the point is, it's cleared the House. It still has to go through the Senate process. So, I would characterize this still as in early innings.

Speaker #5: Essentially, all of the capital that we invest directly in Kansas would now be part of that GSRS filing. So, an expanded universe, so to speak.

Speaker #5: And then the cap would increase today. It is $0.80 per month of impact to a customer; that $0.80 would increase to $1.35.

Speaker #5: But I would emphasize it's the point it is, it's cleared the House. It still has to go through the Senate process. So I would characterize this still as an early innings.

Speaker #8: Okay. And how much of—you said it would make substantial, all the capital qualify. How much would qualify currently?

Paul Zimbardo: Okay. And how much of—you said it would make substantial all the capital qualify. How much would qualify currently?

Speaker #5: Currently, what qualifies is safety-related expenditures. So system integrity type of work, as well as cybersecurity. So this would add in any growth capital we're doing facilities that we're putting in place.

Curtis Dinan: Currently, what qualifies is safety-related expenditures, so system integrity type of work as well as cybersecurity. So this would add in any growth capital we're doing, facilities that we're putting in place, those types of things that are directly in the state of Kansas. Any corporate allocations, such as an ERP system, and that applies to all of the company, that would have to go through a full rate case to be able to be included. So it substantially includes all of the capital we're spending up there, other than those corporate items.

Speaker #5: Those types of things that are directly in the state of Kansas. Any corporate allocations such as an ERP system that's applies to all of the company, that would have to go through a full rate case to be able to be included.

Speaker #5: So it substantially includes all of the capital we're spending up there, other than those corporate items. And you've seen our filings. Each year, at 80 cents, it's been about an $8 million GSRS filing.

Paul Zimbardo: Okay.

Curtis Dinan: And you've seen our filings each year at $0.80, it's been about an $8 million GSRS filing. So it would increase from that $0.80 to $1.35.

Speaker #5: So it would increase from that 80 cents to $1.35.

Speaker #8: Okay. No, that's helpful. And then a bigger picture one, just as you add in the Texas legislation benefit to the adjusted profile, any direction you're providing on the growth rate range?

Paul Zimbardo: Okay. No, that's, that's helpful. And then a bigger picture one, just as you add in the Texas legislation benefit to the adjusted profile, any direction you're providing on kind of where within that growth rate range? I think the latest vintage was around the midpoint, long term. Any refresh thoughts on that as you shift?

Speaker #8: I think the latest vintage was around the midpoint, long-term, any refresh thoughts on that as you shift?

Speaker #9: Hey, Paul. It's Chris. No, not specifically. When we offered guidance last year, we had noted the high end of the range. This year, we noted the midpoint.

Chris Sighinolfi: Hey, Paul, it's Chris. No, not specifically. When we offered guidance last year, we had noted the high end of the range. This year, we noted the midpoint. It's so-- and we're just six weeks in. I would stick to that for now.

Speaker #9: It's—so, I mean, we were just six weeks in. I would stick to that for now.

Speaker #8: Okay. Thank you very much.

Paul Zimbardo: Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator: As another reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad now. We now turn to David Alcaro with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #6: Has another reminder if you'd like to ask a question. Please press star one on the telephone keypad now. We now turn to David Alcaro with Morgan Stanley.

Speaker #6: Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Speaker #10: Hey, thanks. Good morning.

David Arcaro: Hey, thanks. Good morning.

Speaker #5: Good morning, David.

Curtis Dinan: Good morning, David.

David Arcaro: Congratulations, Curtis, as well. Best wishes to you in the new, expanded role here. I was wondering, let me see. Oh, just to check, does the guidance in the adjusted EPS level, does that assume the latest Texas rate case outcome, essentially, that you just got, in terms of what, you know, cost of capital is being embedded in there?

Speaker #10: Congratulations, Curtis, as well. Best wishes to you in the new expanded role here. I was wondering—let me see. Oh, just to check, does the guidance in the adjusted EPS level, does that assume the latest Texas rate case outcome, essentially, that you just got?

Speaker #10: In terms of what cost of capital is being embedded in there?

Speaker #9: Yeah, it does. Our original guidance back in the fall embedded a best estimate for what we thought that would prove to be, and it's pretty close to that.

Chris Sighinolfi: Yeah, it does. Our original guidance back in the fall embedded a best estimate for what we thought that would prove to be, and it's pretty close to that. So it's in on, on the GAAP side, and obviously carries forward from there to the non-GAAP.

Speaker #9: So it's in on the gap side. And obviously, it carries forward from there to the non-gap.

Speaker #10: Got it. Okay. Thanks. And I didn't quite catch it, Chris, but is the adjustment is there a cash component to that in terms of the higher earnings from the regulatory perspective?

David Arcaro: Got it. Okay, thanks. Didn't quite catch it, Chris, but is the adjustment, is there a cash component to that? Like, in terms of the higher earnings from the regulatory perspective, are you getting that as a cash recovery, like a boost to cash in some way? Or is that all pure, you know, just on paper in terms of the accounting?

Speaker #10: Are you getting that as a cash recovery, like a boost to cash in some way? Or is that all pure—just on paper in terms of the accounting?

Speaker #9: The accrual and deferral is not. But once, obviously, that gets rolled into the grip filing, it'll be a larger cash flow item than it would have been without the legislation.

Chris Sighinolfi: The accrual and deferral is not. But once obviously that gets rolled into the GRIP filing, it'll be a larger cash flow item than it would have been without the legislation. So there is a cash component, but the cash component is, it shows up as it would in normal rates and not in the deferral accrual.

Speaker #9: So there is a cash component, but the cash component is it shows up as it would in normal rates. And not in the deferral accrual.

Speaker #10: Got it. Yep, that's clear. Thanks for that. And then just last quick, when I was curious, how are treasuries and the current kind of treasury curve lining up against your guidance expectations at this point?

David Arcaro: Got it. Yep, that's clear. Thanks for that. And then, just last quick one. I was curious, how are treasuries and the current kind of treasury curve lining up against your guidance expectations at this point?

Speaker #9: We've seen pretty strong market performance from issuers that have gone so far. I would say, David, if we were to move with something today, it's probably slightly favorable to what we embedded in our refinancing for the year.

Chris Sighinolfi: We've seen pretty strong market performance from issuers that have gone so far. I would say, David, if we were to move with something today, it's probably slightly favorable to what we embedded in our refinancing for the year. But, you know, that term loan that we put in place last year does not mature until September. And so, you know, I'm always nervous to take today's conditions that may or may not exist by the time we access the capital markets. But specific to your question, it's favorable to it today.

Speaker #9: But that term loan that we put in place last year does not mature until September. And so I'm always nervous to take today conditions that may or may not exist by the time we access the capital markets.

Speaker #9: But specific to your question, it's favorable to it today.

Speaker #10: Okay. Great. Thanks so much.

David Arcaro: Okay, great. Thanks so much.

Speaker #6: That concludes the question and answer session. I would now like to hand it back to the ONE Gas team for closing remarks.

Operator: That concludes the question and answer session. I would now like to hand it back to the ONE Gas team for closing remarks.

Speaker #1: Thank you again for your interest in ONE Gas. We look forward to seeing many of you at upcoming conferences in Chicago and New York.

Paul Zimbardo: Thank you again for your interest in ONE Gas. We look forward to seeing many of you at upcoming conferences in Chicago and New York. Our quiet period for Q1 starts when we close our books in early April and extends until we release earnings in May. We'll provide details on the conference call at a later date. Have a wonderful day.

Speaker #1: Our quiet period for the first quarter starts when we close our books in early April and extends until we release earnings in May. We'll provide details on the conference call at a later date.

Speaker #1: Have a wonderful day.

Operator: This concludes the ONE Gas Q4 and year-end 2025 earnings conference call and webcast. You may now disconnect.

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