Q4 2025 GeneDx Holdings Earnings Call

Speaker #1: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the GeneDx fourth quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode.

Operator: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the GeneDx Q4 2025 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Sabrina Dunbar, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Operator: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the GeneDx Q4 2025 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Sabrina Dunbar, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker #1: After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1-1 on your telephone.

Speaker #1: You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 1-1 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded.

Speaker #1: I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Sabrina Dunbar, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Thank you, operator, and thank you to everyone for joining us today. On the call, we have Katherine Stueland, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Kevin Feeley, Chief Financial Officer.

Sabrina Dunbar: Thank you, Operator, and thank you to everyone for joining us today. On the call, we have Katherine Stueland, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Kevin Feeley, Chief Financial Officer. Earlier today, GeneDx released financial results for the Q4, ended 31 December 2025. Before we begin, please take note of our cautionary statement. We may make forward-looking statements on today's call, including about our business plans, guidance, and outlook. Forward-looking statements inherently involve risks and uncertainties and only reflect our view as of today, 23 February, and we're under no obligation to update. When discussing our results, we refer to non-GAAP measures, which exclude certain items from reported results. Please refer to our Q4 2025 earnings release and slides available at ir.genedx.com for definition...

Sabrina Dunbar: Thank you, Operator, and thank you to everyone for joining us today. On the call, we have Katherine Stueland, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Kevin Feeley, Chief Financial Officer. Earlier today, GeneDx released financial results for the Q4, ended 31 December 2025. Before we begin, please take note of our cautionary statement. We may make forward-looking statements on today's call, including about our business plans, guidance, and outlook. Forward-looking statements inherently involve risks and uncertainties and only reflect our view as of today, 23 February, and we're under no obligation to update. When discussing our results, we refer to non-GAAP measures, which exclude certain items from reported results. Please refer to our Q4 2025 earnings release and slides available at ir.genedx.com for definition...

Speaker #2: Earlier today, GeneDx released financial results for the fourth quarter ended December 31, 2025. Before we begin, please take note of our cautionary statement. We may make forward-looking statements on today's call, including about our business plans, guidance, and outlook.

Speaker #2: Forward-looking statements inherently involve risks and uncertainties and only reflect our view as of today, February 23, and we are under no obligation to update. When discussing our results, we refer to non-GAAP measures, which exclude certain items from reported results.

Speaker #2: Please refer to our fourth quarter 2025 earnings release and slides available at ir.gendx.com for definitions and reconciliations of non-GAAP measures, and additional information regarding our results.

Sabrina Dunbar: for definitions and reconciliations of non-GAAP measures and additional information regarding our results, including a discussion of factors that could cause actual results to materially differ from forward-looking statements. With that, I'll turn the call over to Kathryn.

Sabrina Dunbar: for definitions and reconciliations of non-GAAP measures and additional information regarding our results, including a discussion of factors that could cause actual results to materially differ from forward-looking statements. With that, I'll turn the call over to Kathryn.

Speaker #2: Including a discussion of factors that could cause actual results to materially differ from forward-looking statements. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Katherine.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Sabrina, and good morning, everyone. The fourth quarter was a strong finish to a transformative year for GeneDx. We reported quarterly revenues of $121 million, bringing full-year revenues to $428 million, underpinned by 54% exome and genome revenue growth.

Katherine Stueland: Thank you, Sabrina, good morning, everyone. The Q4 was a strong finish to a transformative year for GeneDx. We reported quarterly revenues of $121 million, bringing full-year revenues to $428 million, underpinned by 54% exome and genome revenue growth. We continue to balance high growth and profitability in service of a massive unmet need, delivering accurate genetic diagnosis to the millions of patients and families seeking and waiting for it. Today, we reaffirm our full year 2026 guidance, and we'll talk you through the elements of this growth that give us such confidence in our near and long-term targets. 2026 is going to be a breakout year for GeneDx. We're operating in an enormous and largely untapped market with a 25-year head start.

Katherine Stueland: Thank you, Sabrina, good morning, everyone. The Q4 was a strong finish to a transformative year for GeneDx. We reported quarterly revenues of $121 million, bringing full-year revenues to $428 million, underpinned by 54% exome and genome revenue growth. We continue to balance high growth and profitability in service of a massive unmet need, delivering accurate genetic diagnosis to the millions of patients and families seeking and waiting for it. Today, we reaffirm our full year 2026 guidance, and we'll talk you through the elements of this growth that give us such confidence in our near and long-term targets. 2026 is going to be a breakout year for GeneDx. We're operating in an enormous and largely untapped market with a 25-year head start.

Speaker #3: We continue to balance high growth and profitability in service of a massive unmet need, delivering accurate genetic diagnosis to the millions of patients and families seeking and waiting for it.

Speaker #3: Today, we reaffirm our full-year 2026 guidance and will talk you through the elements of this growth that give us such confidence in our near- and long-term targets.

Speaker #3: 2026 is going to be a breakout year for GeneDx. We're operating in an enormous and largely untapped market, with a 25-year head start. We've cemented our position as the clear leader in Rare by diagnosing more patients with exome and genome than anyone else in the world, and we have the number one genetic test, the largest and most diverse rare disease data set, and the leading technology and team.

Katherine Stueland: We've cemented our position as the clear leader in rare by diagnosing more patients with exome and genome than anyone else in the world. We have the number one genetic test, the largest and most diverse rare disease data set, and the leading technology and team. Our leadership position was further reinforced by our recent FDA breakthrough device designation, which positions GeneDx to become the first FDA-authorized comprehensive genomic solution in this category, a meaningful long-term differentiator, particularly as we enter mainstream medicine. The clinical case, the economic case, and the policy case for exome and genome are converging, and GeneDx, alongside our patients, is shifting the power of genomics from promise to practice. Patients are at the center of everything we do at GeneDx.

Katherine Stueland: We've cemented our position as the clear leader in rare by diagnosing more patients with exome and genome than anyone else in the world. We have the number one genetic test, the largest and most diverse rare disease data set, and the leading technology and team. Our leadership position was further reinforced by our recent FDA breakthrough device designation, which positions GeneDx to become the first FDA-authorized comprehensive genomic solution in this category, a meaningful long-term differentiator, particularly as we enter mainstream medicine. The clinical case, the economic case, and the policy case for exome and genome are converging, and GeneDx, alongside our patients, is shifting the power of genomics from promise to practice. Patients are at the center of everything we do at GeneDx.

Speaker #3: Our leadership position was further reinforced by our recent FDA Breakthrough Device designation, which positions GeneDx to become the first FDA-authorized comprehensive genomic solution in this category.

Speaker #3: A meaningful long-term differentiator, particularly as we enter mainstream medicine. The clinical case, the economic case, and a policy case for exome and genome are converging.

Speaker #3: And GeneDx, alongside our patients, is shifting the power of genomics from promise to practice. Patients are at the center of everything we do with GeneDx.

Speaker #3: Every test, every data point, and every partnership comes together to create a network effect in service of faster answers, deeper understanding, and expanded access to precision care.

Katherine Stueland: Every test, every data point, and every partnership comes together to create a network effect in service of faster answers, deeper understanding, and expanded access to precision care. We're opening new markets, like general pediatrics, to reach patients at the earliest moment possible. Rare disease affects 1 in 10 Americans, and it still takes an average of 5 years for a patient with a rare disease to receive an accurate diagnosis. The current standard of care often allows years of disease progression at a time when we can offer an accurate diagnosis in a matter of hours. There's a huge opportunity here that looks similar to where cancer diagnostics was 15 years ago, and GeneDx is best positioned to serve this massive unmet need. Diagnosing rare disease is fundamentally a scale problem.

Katherine Stueland: Every test, every data point, and every partnership comes together to create a network effect in service of faster answers, deeper understanding, and expanded access to precision care. We're opening new markets, like general pediatrics, to reach patients at the earliest moment possible. Rare disease affects 1 in 10 Americans, and it still takes an average of 5 years for a patient with a rare disease to receive an accurate diagnosis. The current standard of care often allows years of disease progression at a time when we can offer an accurate diagnosis in a matter of hours. There's a huge opportunity here that looks similar to where cancer diagnostics was 15 years ago, and GeneDx is best positioned to serve this massive unmet need. Diagnosing rare disease is fundamentally a scale problem.

Speaker #3: We're opening new markets, like general pediatrics, to reach patients at the earliest moment possible. Rare disease affects 1 in 10 Americans, and it still takes an average of five years for a patient with a rare disease to receive an accurate diagnosis.

Speaker #3: The current standard of care often allows years of disease progression at a time when we can offer an accurate diagnosis in a matter of hours.

Speaker #3: There's a huge opportunity here that looks similar to where cancer diagnostics was 15 years ago. And GeneDx is best positioned to serve this massive unmet need.

Speaker #3: Diagnosing rare disease is fundamentally a scale problem. And in cancer, the key genes are well characterized, but in rare disease, most patients carry genetic changes that have never been seen before.

Katherine Stueland: In cancer, the key genes are well characterized, but in rare disease, most patients carry genetic changes that have never been seen before. Novel variants aren't the exception, they're the norm. To diagnose these patients, you need to find others who share the same genetic change and the same symptoms. That means the size and diversity of your reference data set is everything. The larger your data set, the more matches you make and the more diagnoses you deliver. No one does this at the scale we do, and that's because of GeneDx Infinity. Infinity is the world's largest and most diverse rare disease data set, composed of more than 2.5 million rare genetic tests, over 1 million exomes and genomes, and over 8 million phenotypic data points.

Katherine Stueland: In cancer, the key genes are well characterized, but in rare disease, most patients carry genetic changes that have never been seen before. Novel variants aren't the exception, they're the norm. To diagnose these patients, you need to find others who share the same genetic change and the same symptoms. That means the size and diversity of your reference data set is everything. The larger your data set, the more matches you make and the more diagnoses you deliver. No one does this at the scale we do, and that's because of GeneDx Infinity. Infinity is the world's largest and most diverse rare disease data set, composed of more than 2.5 million rare genetic tests, over 1 million exomes and genomes, and over 8 million phenotypic data points.

Speaker #3: Novel variants aren't the exception; they're the norm. To diagnose these patients, you need to find others who share the same genetic change and the same symptoms.

Speaker #3: That means the size and diversity of your reference data set is everything. The larger your data set, the more matches you make, and the more diagnoses you deliver.

Speaker #3: No one does this at the scale we do, and that's because of GeneDx Infinity. Infinity is the world's largest and most diverse rare disease data set, composed of more than 2.5 million rare genetic tests, over 1 million exomes and genomes, and over 8 million phenotypic data points.

Speaker #3: More than 60% of the exomes and genomes in Infinity have parental data, which is critical for interpretation. And over 50% are from patients of non-European descent, which improves their diagnostic capabilities across real-world populations.

Katherine Stueland: More than 60% of the exomes and genomes in Infinity have parental data, which is critical for interpretation, and over 50% are from patients of non-European descent, which improves our diagnostic capabilities across real-world populations. While incredibly vast, Infinity is also deep, structured, and expertly annotated to enable fast and accurate diagnoses at scale and across clinical indications. As we test more patients, the power of Infinity compounds. With over 12 exome and genome products currently on the market, GeneDx is still chosen 80% of the time by the most discerning specialists, and we've held that share through multiple competitive cycles. Infinity was built specifically for rare disease, patient by patient, year by year in the clinic. It would take decades to replicate what we have today, and by then, we'll be decades further ahead.

Katherine Stueland: More than 60% of the exomes and genomes in Infinity have parental data, which is critical for interpretation, and over 50% are from patients of non-European descent, which improves our diagnostic capabilities across real-world populations. While incredibly vast, Infinity is also deep, structured, and expertly annotated to enable fast and accurate diagnoses at scale and across clinical indications. As we test more patients, the power of Infinity compounds. With over 12 exome and genome products currently on the market, GeneDx is still chosen 80% of the time by the most discerning specialists, and we've held that share through multiple competitive cycles. Infinity was built specifically for rare disease, patient by patient, year by year in the clinic. It would take decades to replicate what we have today, and by then, we'll be decades further ahead.

Speaker #3: While incredibly vast, Infinity is also deep, structured, and expertly annotated to enable fast and accurate diagnoses at scale and across clinical indications. As we test more patients, the power of Infinity compounds.

Speaker #3: With over a dozen exome and genome products currently on the market, GeneDx is still chosen 80% of the time by the most discerning specialists.

Speaker #3: And we've held that share through multiple competitive cycles. Infinity was built specifically for rare disease, patient by patient, year by year in the clinic.

Speaker #3: It would take decades to replicate what we have today, and by then we'll be decades further ahead. AI models are only as good as the data they're trained on, and GeneDx Infinity is the richest resource available.

Katherine Stueland: AI models are only as good as the data they're trained on. GeneDx Infinity is the richest resource available. Our clinical experts in leading AI tools leverage Infinity to surface insights hidden within complex clinical and geno- genomic data. We are constantly innovating to amplify this impact. For example, our proprietary AI gene ranker, Multiscore, analyzes billions of internal and external data points to identify the most likely genes causing a patient's symptoms, improving our scale, efficiency, and turnaround time. AI is an enabler for us. Our team will remain at the forefront of leveraging this technology to improve outcomes for patients. We are currently operating in six massive, untapped markets, each of which will contribute to our accelerated growth in 2026. We are nearly tripling what was already the largest sales force in rare disease to capture the wide-open space ahead of us.

Katherine Stueland: AI models are only as good as the data they're trained on. GeneDx Infinity is the richest resource available. Our clinical experts in leading AI tools leverage Infinity to surface insights hidden within complex clinical and geno- genomic data. We are constantly innovating to amplify this impact. For example, our proprietary AI gene ranker, Multiscore, analyzes billions of internal and external data points to identify the most likely genes causing a patient's symptoms, improving our scale, efficiency, and turnaround time. AI is an enabler for us. Our team will remain at the forefront of leveraging this technology to improve outcomes for patients. We are currently operating in six massive, untapped markets, each of which will contribute to our accelerated growth in 2026. We are nearly tripling what was already the largest sales force in rare disease to capture the wide-open space ahead of us.

Speaker #3: Our clinical experts and leading AI tools leverage Infinity to surface insights hidden within complex clinical and genomic data, and we are constantly innovating to amplify this impact.

Speaker #3: For example, our proprietary AI gene ranker, Multiscore, analyzes billions of internal and external data points to identify the most likely genes causing a patient's symptoms.

Speaker #3: Improving our scale, efficiency, and turnaround times—AI is an enabler for us, and our team will remain at the forefront of leveraging this technology to improve outcomes for patients.

Speaker #3: We are currently operating in six massive, untapped markets, each of which will contribute to our accelerated growth in 2026. And we're nearly tripling what was already the largest sales force in rare disease to capture the wide-open space ahead of us.

Speaker #3: We have multiple levers for growth—namely, one: activating new clinicians in our existing call points; two: driving higher utilization among clinicians already ordering from us; and three: introducing our industry-leading testing to new markets.

Katherine Stueland: We have multiple levers for growth, namely, 1, activating new clinicians in our existing call points, 2, driving higher utilization among clinicians already ordering from us, and 3, introducing our industry-leading testing to new markets. Even with geneticists, our most established market, we have 80% clinician penetration, but still have room to grow by shifting more testing from single gene and panel approaches to exome and genome. Among pediatric specialists, we've reached about 30% of clinicians and only 15% of eligible patients, giving us 2 clear ways to grow: establishing more doctors and increasing how often they order. In our 4 newer US markets, prenatal, NICU, adult specialists, and general pediatricians, there are over 1 million addressable patients, and we've barely scratched the surface, with clinician adoption still in the single digits.

Katherine Stueland: We have multiple levers for growth, namely, 1, activating new clinicians in our existing call points, 2, driving higher utilization among clinicians already ordering from us, and 3, introducing our industry-leading testing to new markets. Even with geneticists, our most established market, we have 80% clinician penetration, but still have room to grow by shifting more testing from single gene and panel approaches to exome and genome. Among pediatric specialists, we've reached about 30% of clinicians and only 15% of eligible patients, giving us 2 clear ways to grow: establishing more doctors and increasing how often they order. In our 4 newer US markets, prenatal, NICU, adult specialists, and general pediatricians, there are over 1 million addressable patients, and we've barely scratched the surface, with clinician adoption still in the single digits.

Speaker #3: Even with geneticists, our most established market, we have 80% clinician penetration, but still have room to grow by shifting more testing from single-gene and panel approaches to exome and genome.

Speaker #3: Among pediatric specialists, we've reached about 30% of clinicians and only 15% of eligible patients, giving us two clear ways to grow: establishing more doctors and increasing how often they order.

Speaker #3: And our four newer U.S. markets—prenatal, NICU, adult specialists, and general pediatricians—there are over a million addressable patients, and we've barely scratched the surface, with clinician adoption still in the single digits.

Speaker #3: Our first-mover position, focused sales strategy, best-in-class products, geneticist endorsements, and experienced market access teams, along with the best physicians, allow us to build these new markets and take dominant share early.

Katherine Stueland: Our first-mover position, focused sales strategy, best-in-class products, geneticist endorsements, and experienced market access teams best position us to build these new markets and take dominant share early. With that in mind, I want to walk you through our building blocks of growth, each contributing to a stacking effect of revenue and volume that will compound over time. Our foundational markets, geneticists and pediatric specialists, delivered most of our growth in Q4, and there's still significant runway ahead. These markets drove nearly all of our growth in 2025 and have strong momentum entering 2026. We will continue to layer on new indications and call points to these specialist markets, and we've expanded our dedicated sales team from approximately 50 reps in 2025 to 75 in 2026 to drive continued adoption.

Katherine Stueland: Our first-mover position, focused sales strategy, best-in-class products, geneticist endorsements, and experienced market access teams best position us to build these new markets and take dominant share early. With that in mind, I want to walk you through our building blocks of growth, each contributing to a stacking effect of revenue and volume that will compound over time. Our foundational markets, geneticists and pediatric specialists, delivered most of our growth in Q4, and there's still significant runway ahead. These markets drove nearly all of our growth in 2025 and have strong momentum entering 2026. We will continue to layer on new indications and call points to these specialist markets, and we've expanded our dedicated sales team from approximately 50 reps in 2025 to 75 in 2026 to drive continued adoption.

Speaker #3: With that in mind, I want to walk you through our building blocks of growth, each contributing to a stacking effect of revenue and volume that will compound over time.

Speaker #3: Our foundational markets, geneticists and pediatric specialists, delivered most of our growth in Q4, and there's still significant runway ahead. These markets drove nearly all of our growth in 2025 and have strong momentum entering 2026.

Speaker #3: We will continue to layer on new indications and call points to these specialist markets, and we've expanded our dedicated sales team from approximately 50 reps in 2025 to 75 in 2026 to drive continued adoption.

Speaker #3: On top of that foundation, we're ramping in key expansion markets, the largest of which is general pediatricians. We're hearing positive feedback on our one-minute ordering experience, which is set to launch this summer, and, in combination with a dedicated 50-person sales force, we're well positioned to begin seeing volumes really pick up in Q4.

Katherine Stueland: On top of that foundation, we're ramping in key expansion markets, the largest of which is general pediatricians. We're hearing positive feedback on our one-minute ordering experience, which is set to launch this summer, and in combination with a dedicated 50-person sales force, we're well-positioned to begin seeing volumes really pick up in Q4. The NICU remains another key element of our expansion strategy. We know what good looks like here, based on our experience with leading institutions like Seattle Children's and the recommendations outlined in the 2025 Seek First study. This market takes longer to convert, but once it does, it's incredibly sticky and profitable. We have a team of 10 reps dedicated to the NICU and expect to see steady growth in 2026. We recently stepped into prenatal diagnostics with an exome and genome test intended for patients with abnormal ultrasounds....

Katherine Stueland: On top of that foundation, we're ramping in key expansion markets, the largest of which is general pediatricians. We're hearing positive feedback on our one-minute ordering experience, which is set to launch this summer, and in combination with a dedicated 50-person sales force, we're well-positioned to begin seeing volumes really pick up in Q4. The NICU remains another key element of our expansion strategy. We know what good looks like here, based on our experience with leading institutions like Seattle Children's and the recommendations outlined in the 2025 Seek First study. This market takes longer to convert, but once it does, it's incredibly sticky and profitable. We have a team of 10 reps dedicated to the NICU and expect to see steady growth in 2026. We recently stepped into prenatal diagnostics with an exome and genome test intended for patients with abnormal ultrasounds....

Speaker #3: The NICU remains another key element of our expansion strategy. We know what good looks like here based on our experience with leading institutions like Seattle Children's and the recommendations outlined in the 2025 Seek First study.

Speaker #3: This market takes longer to convert, but once it does, it's incredibly sticky and profitable. We have a team of 10 reps dedicated to the NICU and expect to see steady growth in 2026.

Speaker #3: We recently stepped into prenatal diagnostics with an exome and genome test intended for patients with abnormal ultrasounds. We're targeting maternal-fetal medicine specialists with a small team of about 10 new reps to begin driving utilization, to help clinicians deliver answers in these critical moments for families.

Katherine Stueland: We're targeting maternal-fetal medicine specialists with a small team of about 10 new reps to begin driving utilization to help clinicians deliver answers in these critical moments for families. Additionally, we began leveraging our specialist sales force to sell into adult neurologists, diagnosing patients with pediatric onset conditions that were missed as children. Lastly, we continue building an international strategy centered around software and interpretation as a service, and we have 5 reps executing in key geographies. We also see 3 key future markets on the horizon: genomic newborn screening, new channels like telemedicine, and leveraging our data set for biopharma in service of patients in precision medicine, and are laying the groundwork to unlock each. As you can see, our growth is not dependent on any single market or a single bet. It's layers, it's compounding, and it's anchored in a strong and fast-growing core.

Katherine Stueland: We're targeting maternal-fetal medicine specialists with a small team of about 10 new reps to begin driving utilization to help clinicians deliver answers in these critical moments for families. Additionally, we began leveraging our specialist sales force to sell into adult neurologists, diagnosing patients with pediatric onset conditions that were missed as children. Lastly, we continue building an international strategy centered around software and interpretation as a service, and we have 5 reps executing in key geographies. We also see 3 key future markets on the horizon: genomic newborn screening, new channels like telemedicine, and leveraging our data set for biopharma in service of patients in precision medicine, and are laying the groundwork to unlock each. As you can see, our growth is not dependent on any single market or a single bet. It's layers, it's compounding, and it's anchored in a strong and fast-growing core.

Speaker #3: Additionally, we began leveraging our specialist sales force to sell into adult neurologists diagnosing patients with pediatric-onset conditions that were missed as children. Lastly, we continue building an international strategy centered around software and interpretation as a service, and we have five reps executing in key geographies.

Speaker #3: We also see three key future markets on the horizon: genomic newborn screening, new channels like telemedicine, and leveraging our data set for biopharma and service of patients in precision medicine, and we're laying the groundwork to unlock each.

Speaker #3: As you can see, our growth is not dependent on any single market or a single bet. It's layered, it's compounding, and it's anchored in a strong and fast-growing core.

Speaker #3: By introducing our services to mainstream clinicians, we're seizing a massive growth opportunity, and as the leader in rare, we're setting the standard for what exome and genome testing should be.

Katherine Stueland: By introducing our services to mainstream clinicians, we're seizing a massive growth opportunity. As the leader in rare, we're setting the standard for what exome and genome testing should be: accurate, fast, accessible, simple to order, and easy to understand. We will continue to raise the bar. With that, I'll pass it over to Kevin.

Katherine Stueland: By introducing our services to mainstream clinicians, we're seizing a massive growth opportunity. As the leader in rare, we're setting the standard for what exome and genome testing should be: accurate, fast, accessible, simple to order, and easy to understand. We will continue to raise the bar. With that, I'll pass it over to Kevin.

Speaker #3: Accurate, fast, accessible, simple to order, and easy to understand—and we will continue to raise the bar. With that, I'll pass it over to Kevin.

Speaker #1: Thanks, and good morning, everyone. For the fourth quarter, total revenues were $121 million, up 27% year over year. Within that, though, exome and genome revenues were $104 million, an increase of 32% year over year.

Kevin Feeley: Thanks, good morning, everyone. For Q4, total revenues were $121 million, up 27% year-over-year. Within that, though, exome and genome revenues were $104 million, an increase of 32% year-over-year. Excluding a $6.8 million one-time payer recovery in Q4 last year, our organic growth rate was 42% for exome and genome revenues. Turning to volume, we reported 27,761 exome and genome test results in Q4, capping a consistent trend of acceleration through the year. From 24% growth in Q1 to 29% in Q2, 33% in Q3, now exiting the year at 34%.

Kevin Feeley: Thanks, good morning, everyone. For Q4, total revenues were $121 million, up 27% year-over-year. Within that, though, exome and genome revenues were $104 million, an increase of 32% year-over-year. Excluding a $6.8 million one-time payer recovery in Q4 last year, our organic growth rate was 42% for exome and genome revenues. Turning to volume, we reported 27,761 exome and genome test results in Q4, capping a consistent trend of acceleration through the year. From 24% growth in Q1 to 29% in Q2, 33% in Q3, now exiting the year at 34%.

Speaker #1: Excluding a $6.8 million one-time payer recovery in Q4 last year, our organic growth rate was 42% for exome and genome revenues. Turning to volume, we reported 27,761 exome and genome test results in the fourth quarter, capping a consistent trend of acceleration through the year.

Speaker #1: During '24, from 24% growth in Q1 to 29% in Q2, 33% in Q3, and now exiting the year at 34%. In the fourth quarter, we saw geneticists increasingly shift towards whole genome, signaling a desire among these experts to generate even more data for their hardest-to-diagnose patients.

Kevin Feeley: In Q4, we saw geneticists increasingly shift towards whole genome, signaling a desire among these experts to generate even more data for their hardest-to-diagnose patients. Our average reimbursement rate, or ARR, for exome and genome was approximately $3,750 in the quarter. As flagged on our last call, the rate fluctuated some in Q4 due to mixed dynamics, but the long-term trend is up and durable. Full year 2023 was $2,500, which went up to $3,000 in 2024, and now $3,750 in 2025. While any mix towards genome over exome in the outpatient setting may introduce some short-term ARR variability, it's ultimately what is best for both patients and our business.

Kevin Feeley: In Q4, we saw geneticists increasingly shift towards whole genome, signaling a desire among these experts to generate even more data for their hardest-to-diagnose patients. Our average reimbursement rate, or ARR, for exome and genome was approximately $3,750 in the quarter. As flagged on our last call, the rate fluctuated some in Q4 due to mixed dynamics, but the long-term trend is up and durable. Full year 2023 was $2,500, which went up to $3,000 in 2024, and now $3,750 in 2025. While any mix towards genome over exome in the outpatient setting may introduce some short-term ARR variability, it's ultimately what is best for both patients and our business.

Speaker #1: Our average reimbursement rate, or ARR, for exome and genome was approximately $3,750 in the quarter. As flagged on our last call, the rate fluctuated some in the fourth quarter due to mixed dynamics, but the long-term trend is up and durable.

Speaker #1: For 2023, it was $2,500, which went up to $3,000 in 2024, and now $3,750 in 2025. And while any mix towards genome over exome in the outpatient setting may introduce some short-term ARR variability, it's ultimately what is best for both patients and our business.

Speaker #1: Total company adjusted gross margin for the fourth quarter and full year 2025 was 71%. Genome costs more than exome today, but that's mostly a function of higher reagent costs, which we expect to continue to come down as the adoption curve ramps.

Kevin Feeley: Total company adjusted gross margin for Q4 and full year 2025 was 71%. Genome costs more than exome today, that's mostly a function of higher reagent costs, which we expect to continue to come down as the adoption curve ramps. Importantly, our dry side cost advantage applies equally between exome and genome. The annual trend demonstrates our proven ability to drive the cost curve down with scale over time. Full year 2023 gross margin was 45%, which went up to 65% in 2024, and now 71% in 2025. Moving to the bottom line, adjusted net income for Q4 was $4.4 million, and $4.8 million for the full year, demonstrating the leverage in our business model.

Kevin Feeley: Total company adjusted gross margin for Q4 and full year 2025 was 71%. Genome costs more than exome today, that's mostly a function of higher reagent costs, which we expect to continue to come down as the adoption curve ramps. Importantly, our dry side cost advantage applies equally between exome and genome. The annual trend demonstrates our proven ability to drive the cost curve down with scale over time. Full year 2023 gross margin was 45%, which went up to 65% in 2024, and now 71% in 2025. Moving to the bottom line, adjusted net income for Q4 was $4.4 million, and $4.8 million for the full year, demonstrating the leverage in our business model.

Speaker #1: Importantly, our dry-side cost advantage applies equally between exome and genome. The annual trend demonstrates our proven ability to drive the cost curve down with scale over time.

Speaker #1: For 2023, gross margin was 45%, which went up to 65% in 2024, and now 71% in 2025. Moving to the bottom line, adjusted net income for the fourth quarter was $4.4 million, and $4.8 million for the full year, demonstrating the leverage in our business model.

Speaker #1: Now, Katherine just laid out the strategic layers of our growth. To help you model the business, here's how we expect those layers to contribute to 2026.

Kevin Feeley: Now, Catherine just laid out the strategic layers of our growth. To help you model the business, here's how we expect those layers to contribute to 2026. Let's first look at those foundational markets. First, we have deep penetration with approximately 80% share among clinical geneticists, who are still only ordering for about 30% of the patients, which we believe will grow over time. The go-get here is converting multi-gene panels into exome and genome, which we view as inevitable. Even within our own business, more than half of all tests are still single gene and multi-gene panels. Moving those patients from exome or genome to exome or genome materially improves diagnostic yield and reduces time to diagnosis. Conversion is driven by guidelines, education, and sales coverage.

Kevin Feeley: Now, Catherine just laid out the strategic layers of our growth. To help you model the business, here's how we expect those layers to contribute to 2026. Let's first look at those foundational markets. First, we have deep penetration with approximately 80% share among clinical geneticists, who are still only ordering for about 30% of the patients, which we believe will grow over time. The go-get here is converting multi-gene panels into exome and genome, which we view as inevitable. Even within our own business, more than half of all tests are still single gene and multi-gene panels. Moving those patients from exome or genome to exome or genome materially improves diagnostic yield and reduces time to diagnosis. Conversion is driven by guidelines, education, and sales coverage.

Speaker #1: Let's first look at those foundational markets. First, we have deep penetration with approximately 80% share among clinical geneticists. We're still only ordering for about 30% of the patients, which we believe will grow over time.

Speaker #1: The go-get here is converting multi-gene panels into exome and genome, which we view as inevitable. Even within our own business, more than half of all tests are still single-gene and multi-gene panels.

Speaker #1: Moving those patients from exome or genome to exome or genome materially improves diagnostic yield and reduces time to diagnosis. Conversion is driven by guidelines, education, and sales coverage. Repetition is key.

Speaker #1: And conversion will continue to be a source of high-volume growth for years to come. And as it occurs, it will provide higher reimbursement and strong contribution margin tailwinds.

Kevin Feeley: Repetition is key, conversion will continue to be a source of high volume growth for years to come. As it occurs, it will provide higher reimbursement and strong contribution margin tailwinds. Second, in February, we went live with an exome-to-genome reflex testing option, allowing clinicians to start with exome if more data is needed, proceed to whole genome. This approach provides a faster, more cost-effective, and comprehensive diagnostic pathway. Third, nearly 30% of pediatric neurologists now order through us, and we've reached patient penetration in the mid-teens, all after just 3 years of targeting these clinicians. Growth here will come from both new clinician activation and increasing order rates per clinician for years to come. Moving to those expansion markets.

Kevin Feeley: Repetition is key, conversion will continue to be a source of high volume growth for years to come. As it occurs, it will provide higher reimbursement and strong contribution margin tailwinds. Second, in February, we went live with an exome-to-genome reflex testing option, allowing clinicians to start with exome if more data is needed, proceed to whole genome. This approach provides a faster, more cost-effective, and comprehensive diagnostic pathway. Third, nearly 30% of pediatric neurologists now order through us, and we've reached patient penetration in the mid-teens, all after just 3 years of targeting these clinicians. Growth here will come from both new clinician activation and increasing order rates per clinician for years to come. Moving to those expansion markets.

Speaker #1: Second, in February, we went live with an exome-to-genome reflex testing option, allowing clinicians to start with exome and, if more data is needed, proceed to whole genome.

Speaker #1: This approach provides a faster, more cost-effective, and comprehensive diagnostic pathway. And third, nearly 30% of pediatric neurologists now order through us, and we've reached patient penetration in the mid-teens.

Speaker #1: All after just three years of targeting these clinicians. Growth here will come from both new clinician activation and increasing order rates per clinician for years to come.

Speaker #1: Moving to those expansion markets, first, the NICU remains a focus, and we're convinced these institutions should be ordering over 200,000 tests a year to address the unmet need and provide better and more efficient patient care.

Kevin Feeley: First, the NICU remains a focus. We're convinced these institutions should be ordering over 200,000 tests a year to address the unmet need and provide better and more efficient patient care. Nearly 25% of the target accounts are existing customers, yet utilization remains in the single digits. As our efforts to push forward the standard of care and ease the implementation burden take hold, we aim to influence that utilization rate up to 60% over time. We're seeing early signs of improved utilization. We will remain conservative in our modeling assumption for the time being. Second, general pediatricians is a game changer. Following the mid-2026 launch of our custom design one-minute ordering workflow, we expect volumes to pick up in Q4 2026 and accelerate into 2027. Third, prenatal, adults, and international remain wide open.

Kevin Feeley: First, the NICU remains a focus. We're convinced these institutions should be ordering over 200,000 tests a year to address the unmet need and provide better and more efficient patient care. Nearly 25% of the target accounts are existing customers, yet utilization remains in the single digits. As our efforts to push forward the standard of care and ease the implementation burden take hold, we aim to influence that utilization rate up to 60% over time. We're seeing early signs of improved utilization. We will remain conservative in our modeling assumption for the time being. Second, general pediatricians is a game changer. Following the mid-2026 launch of our custom design one-minute ordering workflow, we expect volumes to pick up in Q4 2026 and accelerate into 2027. Third, prenatal, adults, and international remain wide open.

Speaker #1: Nearly 25% of the target accounts are our existing customers, yet utilization remains in the single digits. As our efforts to push forward the standard of care and ease the implementation burden take hold, we aim to influence that utilization rate up to 60% over time.

Speaker #1: We're seeing early signs of improved utilization, but will remain conservative in our modeling assumptions for the time being. Second, general pediatricians is a game changer.

Speaker #1: Following the mid-2026 launch of our custom-designed one-minute ordering workflow, we expect volumes to pick up in the fourth quarter of 2026 and accelerate into 2027.

Speaker #1: Third, prenatal, adults, and international remain wide open. We expect prenatal to begin to ramp in Q2, and adults in the second half of the year.

Kevin Feeley: We expect prenatal to begin to ramp in Q2, and adults in the second half of the year. Internationally, we're putting a small number of boots on the ground now to pre-prepare for a broader expansion that will become a contributor in late 2026 and beyond. The primary product here will be software and interpretation as a service. In all these new outpatient markets, we will remain conservative in our volume and ARR modeling assumptions until more history is built up. Now, in terms of operating expense, we're in a phase of deliberate investment to accelerate growth. Specifically, we're deploying capital to nearly triple our commercial footprint in 2026. We're also investing in a next-generation customer experience, a portal designed by pediatricians for pediatricians, which will launch later this summer. We're ramping our R&D to support clinical research that underpins the commercial strategy.

Kevin Feeley: We expect prenatal to begin to ramp in Q2, and adults in the second half of the year. Internationally, we're putting a small number of boots on the ground now to pre-prepare for a broader expansion that will become a contributor in late 2026 and beyond. The primary product here will be software and interpretation as a service. In all these new outpatient markets, we will remain conservative in our volume and ARR modeling assumptions until more history is built up. Now, in terms of operating expense, we're in a phase of deliberate investment to accelerate growth. Specifically, we're deploying capital to nearly triple our commercial footprint in 2026. We're also investing in a next-generation customer experience, a portal designed by pediatricians for pediatricians, which will launch later this summer. We're ramping our R&D to support clinical research that underpins the commercial strategy.

Speaker #1: Internationally, we're putting a small number of boots on the ground now to prepare for a broader expansion that will become a contributor in late 2026 and beyond.

Speaker #1: The primary product here will be software and interpretation as a service. And in all these new outpatient markets, we will remain conservative in our volume and ARR modeling assumptions until more history is built up.

Speaker #1: Now, in terms of operating expense, we're in a phase of deliberate investment to accelerate growth. Specifically, we're deploying capital to nearly triple our commercial footprint in 2026.

Speaker #1: We're also investing in a next-generation customer experience—a portal designed by pediatricians for pediatricians—which will launch later this summer. And we're ramping our R&D to support clinical research that underpins the commercial strategy.

Speaker #1: That includes finding the right balance in market fit for things like supplementing short-read with long-read sequencing, and other new technologies to increase diagnostic yield and reduce turnaround times.

Kevin Feeley: That includes finding the right balance and market fit for things like supplementing short-read with long-read sequencing and other new technologies to increase diagnostic yield and reduce turnaround times. With all that in mind, we're reaffirming our guidance to include total revenues in the range of $540 to $555 million, exome and genome volume growth of 33% to 35%, with a baseline of 33% growth for Q1. We expect the foundational markets to contribute 25% to 27% towards the growth rate. We expect those expansion markets to contribute 7% to 8% towards the growth rate, and we're assuming a very modest second-half contribution from general pediatricians this year. The future markets are about 1%.

Kevin Feeley: That includes finding the right balance and market fit for things like supplementing short-read with long-read sequencing and other new technologies to increase diagnostic yield and reduce turnaround times. With all that in mind, we're reaffirming our guidance to include total revenues in the range of $540 to $555 million, exome and genome volume growth of 33% to 35%, with a baseline of 33% growth for Q1. We expect the foundational markets to contribute 25% to 27% towards the growth rate. We expect those expansion markets to contribute 7% to 8% towards the growth rate, and we're assuming a very modest second-half contribution from general pediatricians this year. The future markets are about 1%.

Speaker #1: So, with all that in mind, we're reaffirming our guidance to include total revenues in the range of $540 to $555 million, exome and genome volume growth of 33% to 35%, with a baseline of 33% growth for Q1.

Speaker #1: We expect the foundational markets to contribute 25 to 27 percent towards the growth rate. We expect those expansion markets to contribute 7 to 8 percent towards the growth rate.

Speaker #1: And we're assuming a very modest second-half contribution from general pediatricians this year. The future markets are about 1%. So, to put all that in context—another way, 33% volume growth in 2026 would mean 32,000 tests on top of the fiscal 2025 count.

Kevin Feeley: To put all that in context another way, 33% volume growth in 2026 would mean 32,000 tests on top of the fiscal 2025 count. In 2025, we were only really active across geneticists, pediatric neurology, and the NICU, and those delivered the 23,000 tests of growth, all accelerating throughout the year. Given current penetration status, there's no reason to think those three markets would slow down, and on top of it, we're now adding 100 new sales reps, approaching new markets, launching a new customer experience, and doubling our marketing efforts. We're confident in our plan to deliver. We're expecting adjusted gross margin at approximately 70%, which takes mix shift dynamics into consideration. Despite a heavy investment cycle, we expect adjusted net income positive for the full year and each individual quarter.

Kevin Feeley: To put all that in context another way, 33% volume growth in 2026 would mean 32,000 tests on top of the fiscal 2025 count. In 2025, we were only really active across geneticists, pediatric neurology, and the NICU, and those delivered the 23,000 tests of growth, all accelerating throughout the year. Given current penetration status, there's no reason to think those three markets would slow down, and on top of it, we're now adding 100 new sales reps, approaching new markets, launching a new customer experience, and doubling our marketing efforts. We're confident in our plan to deliver. We're expecting adjusted gross margin at approximately 70%, which takes mix shift dynamics into consideration. Despite a heavy investment cycle, we expect adjusted net income positive for the full year and each individual quarter.

Speaker #1: In 2025, we're only really active across geneticists, pediatric neurology, and the NICU, and those delivered the 23,000 tests of growth, all accelerating throughout the year.

Speaker #1: Given current penetration status, there's no reason to think those three markets would slow down, and on top of it, we're now adding 100 new sales reps approaching new markets, launching a new customer experience, and doubling our marketing efforts.

Speaker #1: We're confident in our plan to deliver. We're expecting adjusted gross margin at approximately 70%, which takes mixed-shift dynamics into consideration. Despite a heavy investment cycle, we expect net income to be positive for the full year and each individual quarter.

Speaker #1: The first quarter of 2026 in particular will be close to break-even, as we've deliberately prioritized market capture over near-term margin optimization. As these newly deployed territories activate and ramp towards full productivity, we expect adjusted operating margin to build towards double digits by Q4 as these investments yield revenue.

Kevin Feeley: The Q1 of 2026 in particular, will be close to breakeven as we deliberately prioritize market capture over near-term margin optimization. As these newly deployed territories activate and ramp towards full productivity, we expect adjusted operating margin to build towards double digits by Q4 as these investments yield revenue. Before I move on, a few notes for your model. At this point in the quarter, volume is matching expectation. That huge storm in January did cost us a full day of volume, and we're experiencing another storm in the Northeast today. We've always built that level of impact into our Q1 projections. In our case, these children are sick, and missed appointments are not typically lost so much as they are rescheduled in the next quarter or maybe even two. Beyond that, this business has a predictable seasonal rhythm.

Kevin Feeley: The Q1 of 2026 in particular, will be close to breakeven as we deliberately prioritize market capture over near-term margin optimization. As these newly deployed territories activate and ramp towards full productivity, we expect adjusted operating margin to build towards double digits by Q4 as these investments yield revenue. Before I move on, a few notes for your model. At this point in the quarter, volume is matching expectation. That huge storm in January did cost us a full day of volume, and we're experiencing another storm in the Northeast today. We've always built that level of impact into our Q1 projections. In our case, these children are sick, and missed appointments are not typically lost so much as they are rescheduled in the next quarter or maybe even two. Beyond that, this business has a predictable seasonal rhythm.

Speaker #1: Before I move on, a few notes for your model. At this point in the quarter, volumes are matching expectation. That huge storm in January did cost us a full day of volume, and we're experiencing another storm in the Northeast today.

Speaker #1: We've always built that level of impact into our Q1 projections. In our case, these children are sick, and missed appointments are not typically lost so much as they are rescheduled in the next quarter or maybe even two.

Speaker #1: Beyond that, this business has a predictable seasonal rhythm. In case clarification is required—and I've been at the company for 10 years now—Q1 always steps down due to deductible reset dynamics.

Kevin Feeley: In case clarification is required, and I've been at the company for 10 years now, Q1 always steps down due to deductible reset dynamics. All else equal in terms of underlying fundamentals, volume in Q1 is typically lighter by a couple of days, and underlying collection rates is typically down about 5% in Q1 compared to Q4, and then builds back up because of the impact of deductibles. We've factored this rhythm into our guidance. Last point, as a reminder, we wound down the hereditary cancer testing line in Q3 2025. In terms of comps, that business line generated $2 million in Q1 of last year and $5 million in fiscal 2025. Before we move to Q&A, I do want to hit on something Kathryn might be too humble to bring up.

Kevin Feeley: In case clarification is required, and I've been at the company for 10 years now, Q1 always steps down due to deductible reset dynamics. All else equal in terms of underlying fundamentals, volume in Q1 is typically lighter by a couple of days, and underlying collection rates is typically down about 5% in Q1 compared to Q4, and then builds back up because of the impact of deductibles. We've factored this rhythm into our guidance. Last point, as a reminder, we wound down the hereditary cancer testing line in Q3 2025. In terms of comps, that business line generated $2 million in Q1 of last year and $5 million in fiscal 2025. Before we move to Q&A, I do want to hit on something Kathryn might be too humble to bring up.

Speaker #1: All-out SQL—in terms of underlying fundamentals, volume in Q1 is typically lighter by a couple of days, and underlying collection rates are typically down about 5% in Q1 compared to Q4, and then build back up because of the impact of deductibles.

Speaker #1: We've factored this rhythm into our guidance. Last point, as a reminder, we wound down the hereditary cancer testing line in Q3 2025. So, in terms of comps, that business line generated $2 million in Q1 of last year and $5 million in fiscal 2025.

Speaker #1: Now, before we move to Q&A, I do want to hit on something—Katherine might be too humble to bring it up. Last week, she was named to the 2026 TIME 100 Health List.

Kevin Feeley: Last week, she was named to the 2026 TIME100 Health list. Kathryn's been quick to transfer all credit to the GeneDx team here. On behalf of our 1,400 employees and countless families we serve, we want to offer our applause. Knowing Kathryn, she would want me to point out who else was on that list, because it validates exactly where this industry is going. She was honored alongside pioneers like Dr. Mun Suthanaru, Dr. Aarons Nicholas from CHOP, who saved Baby KJ with a world-first patient-tailored CRISPR therapy. There were several other honorees this year related to rare disease and the pioneering work to bring gene therapies forward. This all signals something important: Rare disease and genomic medicine are having their moment. We're decades behind oncology. We're coming fast in terms of diagnosis and eventual therapies.

Kevin Feeley: Last week, she was named to the 2026 TIME100 Health list. Kathryn's been quick to transfer all credit to the GeneDx team here. On behalf of our 1,400 employees and countless families we serve, we want to offer our applause. Knowing Kathryn, she would want me to point out who else was on that list, because it validates exactly where this industry is going. She was honored alongside pioneers like Dr. Mun Suthanaru, Dr. Aarons Nicholas from CHOP, who saved Baby KJ with a world-first patient-tailored CRISPR therapy. There were several other honorees this year related to rare disease and the pioneering work to bring gene therapies forward. This all signals something important: Rare disease and genomic medicine are having their moment. We're decades behind oncology. We're coming fast in terms of diagnosis and eventual therapies.

Speaker #1: Katherine’s been quick to transfer all credit to the GeneDx team here, but on behalf of all we serve, we want to offer our applause.

Speaker #1: But knowing Katherine, she would want me to point out who else was on that list, because it validates exactly where this industry is going.

Speaker #1: She was honored alongside pioneers like Dr. Moon Sunuru and Dr. Aaron Nicholas from CHOP, who saved baby KJ with a world-first, patient-tailored CRISPR therapy. There were several other honorees this year related to rare disease and the pioneering work to bring gene therapies forward.

Speaker #1: This all signals something important: rare disease and genomic medicine are having their moment. We're decades behind oncology, but we're coming fast in terms of diagnosis and eventual therapies.

Speaker #1: Now, as an investor, here's why you should care about that. The evidence is clear. The science is ready. Our technology is capable. The therapies are coming, and GeneDx is the engine.

Kevin Feeley: Now, as an investor, here's why you should care about that. The evidence is clear, the science is ready, our technology is capable, the therapies are coming, and GeneDx is the engine that finds the patients who need them. Operator, let's open up for Q&A.

Kevin Feeley: Now, as an investor, here's why you should care about that. The evidence is clear, the science is ready, our technology is capable, the therapies are coming, and GeneDx is the engine that finds the patients who need them. Operator, let's open up for Q&A.

Speaker #1: That finds the patients who need them. Operator, let's open up for Q&A.

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Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Our first question comes from the line of Subhalaxmi Nambi with Guggenheim. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Our first question comes from the line of Subhalaxmi Nambi with Guggenheim. Your line is now open.

Speaker #2: Our first question comes from the line of Sabrina Dunbar with Guggenheim. Your line is now open.

Speaker #3: Hey, guys. Good morning. Firstly, congratulations, Katherine, on that achievement—truly remarkable. Second, I have a question on guidance. Let me start with some observations.

Subhalaxmi Nambi: Hey, guys. Good morning. Firstly, congratulations, Katherine, on that achievement. Truly remarkable. Second, I have a question on guidance. Let me start with some observations. Your guidance assumes 25,200 or so tests, 200 or so more foundational tests at the midpoint. This is impressive, given that the number of foundational tests last year was 22,700, down from 25,000 in 2024. Your guidance reflects an assumption that a recent trend reverses. What is driving that, and what gives you the confidence to bake this assumption into the guide?

Subhalaxmi Nambi: Hey, guys. Good morning. Firstly, congratulations, Katherine, on that achievement. Truly remarkable. Second, I have a question on guidance. Let me start with some observations. Your guidance assumes 25,200 or so tests, 200 or so more foundational tests at the midpoint. This is impressive, given that the number of foundational tests last year was 22,700, down from 25,000 in 2024. Your guidance reflects an assumption that a recent trend reverses. What is driving that, and what gives you the confidence to bake this assumption into the guide?

Speaker #3: Your guidance assumes approximately 25,200 or so tests, and around 200 more foundational tests at the midpoint. This is impressive, given that the number of foundational tests last year was 22,700, down from 25,000 in 2024.

Speaker #3: So, your guidance reflects an assumption that a recent trend reverses. What is driving that, and what gives you the confidence to make this assumption into the guide?

Speaker #4: Yeah, I think, well, there’s a lot of factors there, including the point we made on repetition. I think if you look at the overall amount of white space available in terms of penetration rates, there’s just so much runway to activate new clinicians, to get them to order more, and, frankly, continue the conversion cycle from single gene and multi-gene tests.

Kevin Feeley: Yeah, I think. Well, there's a lot of factors there, including the point we made on repetition. I think if you look at the overall amount of white space available in terms of penetration rates, there's just so much runway to activate new clinicians, to get them to order more and frankly, continue the conversion cycle from single gene and multi-gene tests. For the past few years now, we've really just focused a few cohorts of doctors, outpatients, geneticists, and pediatric neurologists, and spent most of the last 3 years specifically talking just about a few indications: that being epilepsy, intellectual development delay, and autism. There's a far wider range of tests that will be ordered by those physicians over time.

Kevin Feeley: Yeah, I think. Well, there's a lot of factors there, including the point we made on repetition. I think if you look at the overall amount of white space available in terms of penetration rates, there's just so much runway to activate new clinicians, to get them to order more and frankly, continue the conversion cycle from single gene and multi-gene tests. For the past few years now, we've really just focused a few cohorts of doctors, outpatients, geneticists, and pediatric neurologists, and spent most of the last 3 years specifically talking just about a few indications: that being epilepsy, intellectual development delay, and autism. There's a far wider range of tests that will be ordered by those physicians over time.

Speaker #4: For the past few years now, we've really just focused on a few cohorts of doctors—outpatients, geneticists, and pediatric neurologists—and spent most of the last three years specifically talking just about a few indications.

Speaker #4: That being epilepsy, intellectual development delay, and autism. There's a far wider range of tests that will be ordered by those physicians over time. And I think some of the strength that I could point to there is, if you look at the comment I made on even GeneDx's volume in the fourth quarter—still, more than half of all tests we ran at GeneDx, despite our focus on exome or genome, is single gene and multi-gene panels.

Kevin Feeley: I think some of the strength that I could point to there is if you look at the comment I made on even GeneDx's volume in Q4, still more than half of all tests we ran at GeneDx, despite our focus on exome or genome, is single-gene and multi-gene panels. Repetition is key. We've got a strong commercial team. We've got the largest rare disease sales team in the market, and as we said in the comments, we'll, we'll be nearly tripling the size of that team. There's still a lot of work to do to move the paradigm towards exome and genome being the test to diagnose all hereditary disease. Frankly, we're just in the early innings of that.

Kevin Feeley: I think some of the strength that I could point to there is if you look at the comment I made on even GeneDx's volume in Q4, still more than half of all tests we ran at GeneDx, despite our focus on exome or genome, is single-gene and multi-gene panels. Repetition is key. We've got a strong commercial team. We've got the largest rare disease sales team in the market, and as we said in the comments, we'll, we'll be nearly tripling the size of that team. There's still a lot of work to do to move the paradigm towards exome and genome being the test to diagnose all hereditary disease. Frankly, we're just in the early innings of that.

Speaker #4: And so, repetition is key. We've got a strong commercial team. We've got the largest rare disease sales team in the market. And, as we said in the comments, we'll be nearly tripling the size of that team.

Speaker #4: There's still a lot of work to do. To move the paradigm towards exome and genome being the test to diagnose all hereditary disease—and, frankly, we're just in the early innings of that.

Speaker #3: Well, thank you so much for that, Kevin. Could we also discuss the percentage for quarterly cadence this year on both volumes, ASPs, and maybe gross margins?

Subhalaxmi Nambi: Well, thank you for so much for that, Kevin. Could we also discuss the puts and takes for quarterly cadence this year on both volumes, ASPs, and maybe gross margins? Thank you so much.

Subhalaxmi Nambi: Well, thank you for so much for that, Kevin. Could we also discuss the puts and takes for quarterly cadence this year on both volumes, ASPs, and maybe gross margins? Thank you so much.

Speaker #3: Thank you so much.

Speaker #4: Yeah, I mean, I think if you look at the cadence of any year here at GeneDx, you’d expect Q1 to be the low point in terms of volume and reimbursement rates, in particular driven by those deductible factors I discussed as well.

Kevin Feeley: Yeah, I mean, I think if you look at the cadence of any year here at GeneDx, you'd expect Q1 to be the low point in terms of volume and reimbursement rates, in particular, driven by those deductible factors I discussed, as well, of course, weather. With Q4 typically being on a per-day basis, the strongest. There is variability in the number of operating days. You know, our business, if you look at the outpatient setting, does tend to follow or draw strength from the school calendar as well as the holiday calendar. To the extent you have quarters that are heavy on the inability for families to get into physicians' offices, it obviously plays a factor. We typically see Q1 as the low point, have that ramp throughout the year.

Kevin Feeley: Yeah, I mean, I think if you look at the cadence of any year here at GeneDx, you'd expect Q1 to be the low point in terms of volume and reimbursement rates, in particular, driven by those deductible factors I discussed, as well, of course, weather. With Q4 typically being on a per-day basis, the strongest. There is variability in the number of operating days. You know, our business, if you look at the outpatient setting, does tend to follow or draw strength from the school calendar as well as the holiday calendar. To the extent you have quarters that are heavy on the inability for families to get into physicians' offices, it obviously plays a factor. We typically see Q1 as the low point, have that ramp throughout the year.

Speaker #4: Of course, weather—with Q4 typically being, on a per-day basis, the strongest. There is variability in the number of operating days. Our business, if you look at the outpatient setting, does tend to follow or draw strength from the school calendar as well as the holiday calendar.

Speaker #4: And so, to the extent you have quarters that are heavy on the inability for families to get into physicians' offices, it obviously plays a factor.

Speaker #4: But we typically see Q1 as the low point and then have that ramp throughout the year. From a seasonal strength perspective, Q4 is the strongest, typically followed by Q1, then Q2, and then Q3 from a strength perspective.

Kevin Feeley: From a seasonal strength perspective, Q4 is the strongest, typically, followed by Q1, then Q3, and then Q4, then Q2, then Q3, and then Q1, from a strength perspective, and we see this year being no different.

Kevin Feeley: From a seasonal strength perspective, Q4 is the strongest, typically, followed by Q1, then Q3, and then Q4, then Q2, then Q3, and then Q1, from a strength perspective, and we see this year being no different.

Speaker #4: And we see this year being no different.

Speaker #3: And anything on gross margins, Kevin, as people ramp to newer call points, start to order whole exome? And then I'll hop back in the queue.

Subhalaxmi Nambi: Anything on gross margins, Kevin, as people ramp to newer call points start to order whole exome, and then I'll hop back in the queue. Thank you so much.

Subhalaxmi Nambi: Anything on gross margins, Kevin, as people ramp to newer call points start to order whole exome, and then I'll hop back in the queue. Thank you so much.

Speaker #3: Thank you so much.

Speaker #4: Yeah, I mean, I think overall, where we ended the year—around 71% for total company—underlying that, the exome-genome portfolio operates significantly stronger than that.

Kevin Feeley: Yeah, I mean, I think overall, where we ended the year, around 71% for total company, underlying that, the exome genome portfolio operates significantly stronger than that. The combined exome genome portfolio in the 80s in terms of gross margin. Now, the reality is, we still have a long way to go to reduce cost per test. The past couple years, we've been optimizing for reimbursement and cost per test on exome in particular. And now is our time to turn attention towards optimizing genome cost and reimbursement. I think we're well equipped to do that. We've got a proven playbook to do that. We're going to take many of the learnings from exome, and invariably, genome cogs will be coming down as, I mean, we'd expect them to, as the utilization ramp increases.

Kevin Feeley: Yeah, I mean, I think overall, where we ended the year, around 71% for total company, underlying that, the exome genome portfolio operates significantly stronger than that. The combined exome genome portfolio in the 80s in terms of gross margin. Now, the reality is, we still have a long way to go to reduce cost per test. The past couple years, we've been optimizing for reimbursement and cost per test on exome in particular. And now is our time to turn attention towards optimizing genome cost and reimbursement. I think we're well equipped to do that. We've got a proven playbook to do that. We're going to take many of the learnings from exome, and invariably, genome cogs will be coming down as, I mean, we'd expect them to, as the utilization ramp increases.

Speaker #4: The combined exome-genome portfolio in the 80s in terms of gross margin. Now, the reality is we still have a long way to go to reduce cost per test.

Speaker #4: The past couple of years, we've been optimizing for reimbursement and cost per test on exome, in particular. And now is our time to turn attention towards optimizing genome cost and reimbursement.

Speaker #4: I think we're well equipped to do that. We've got a proven playbook to do that. We're going to take many of the learnings from exome, and invariably genome COGS will be coming down, as—I mean, we'd expect them to as the utilization ramp increases.

Speaker #4: And in large part, the combination of that demand will put pressure on payers to open up access, while at the same time allow us to get even further economies of scale and buying power with respect to the use of genome.

Kevin Feeley: In large parts, the combination of that demand will put pressure on payers to open up access, while at the same time allow us to get even further economies of scale, and buying power with respect to the use of genome. What we've taken is a fairly conservative view to gross margin in terms of the guide. We want to see how some of these new markets, volumes from new diagnosis codes play out, and ensure that we have the ability to outperform in terms of cause- cost and, and gross margin. Ultimately, as we see the conversion from panels into exome or genome, both are far more favorable and, and we'd expect tailwinds from that for many years to come.

Kevin Feeley: In large parts, the combination of that demand will put pressure on payers to open up access, while at the same time allow us to get even further economies of scale, and buying power with respect to the use of genome. What we've taken is a fairly conservative view to gross margin in terms of the guide. We want to see how some of these new markets, volumes from new diagnosis codes play out, and ensure that we have the ability to outperform in terms of cause- cost and, and gross margin. Ultimately, as we see the conversion from panels into exome or genome, both are far more favorable and, and we'd expect tailwinds from that for many years to come.

Speaker #4: What we've taken is a fairly conservative view to gross margin in terms of the guide. We want to see how some of these new markets, volumes from new diagnosis codes, play out and ensure that we have the ability to outperform in terms of cost and gross margin.

Speaker #4: But ultimately, as we see the conversion from panels into exome or genome, both are far more favorable, and we'd expect tailwinds from that for many years to come.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Bill Bonello with Craig-Hallum. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Bill Bonello with Craig-Hallum. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Bill Bonello with Craig-Hallum. Your line is now open.

Speaker #5: Hey, great. I'm just going to push a little bit more on the sequential, just so we don't have kind of a repeat of last year.

Bill Bonello: Hey, great. I'm, I'm just gonna push a little bit more on the sequential, just so we don't have kind of a repeat of, of last year, if you can help at all. Last year, I think we had cases down, you know, about 114 tests or so. So not a, not a very significant sequential decline. On the ASP side, we were just a little under $60 down. Given what you talked about with, with weather, and the, you know, big pop-up that we had in, in Q4 this year, should we be assuming, you know, a more significant sequential decline than 100 tests or so? I mean, maybe something more in the, you know, 400 to 500 range, or how, how are you thinking about that?

Bill Bonello: Hey, great. I'm, I'm just gonna push a little bit more on the sequential, just so we don't have kind of a repeat of, of last year, if you can help at all. Last year, I think we had cases down, you know, about 114 tests or so. So not a, not a very significant sequential decline. On the ASP side, we were just a little under $60 down. Given what you talked about with, with weather, and the, you know, big pop-up that we had in, in Q4 this year, should we be assuming, you know, a more significant sequential decline than 100 tests or so? I mean, maybe something more in the, you know, 400 to 500 range, or how, how are you thinking about that?

Speaker #5: If you can help at all. But last year, I think we had cases down about 114 tests or so, so not a very significant sequential decline. And on the ASP side, we were just a little under $60 down.

Speaker #5: Given what you talked about with weather, and the big pop-up that we had in Q4 this year, should we be assuming a more significant sequential decline than 100 tests or so?

Speaker #5: I mean, maybe something more in the 400 to 500 range, or how are you thinking about that?

Speaker #4: Yeah, hi, Bill. In the prepared remarks, I said the baseline expectation for Q1 should be 33%. So if you could take the Q1 number at 33%, that would infer a decline of even 300 to 400 tests in Q1 off of Q4 sequentially.

Kevin Feeley: Yeah. Hi, Bill. In the prepared remarks, I said the baseline expectation for Q1 should be 33%. If you take the Q1 number at 33%, that would infer a decline of even 300 to 400 tests in Q1 off of Q4 sequentially, would not be unexpected. Like I said, we lost a day of volume due to that storm. We're actually providing our first virtual call today, given the storm in the Northeast. You know, the guide is anchored in 33% to 35% because of the dynamic of both weather and the deductible reset. Typical seasonal plays would ask people to look to the 33% for Q1, and then we'll build back up off of that.

Kevin Feeley: Yeah. Hi, Bill. In the prepared remarks, I said the baseline expectation for Q1 should be 33%. If you take the Q1 number at 33%, that would infer a decline of even 300 to 400 tests in Q1 off of Q4 sequentially, would not be unexpected. Like I said, we lost a day of volume due to that storm. We're actually providing our first virtual call today, given the storm in the Northeast. You know, the guide is anchored in 33% to 35% because of the dynamic of both weather and the deductible reset. Typical seasonal plays would ask people to look to the 33% for Q1, and then we'll build back up off of that.

Speaker #4: Would not be unexpected. Like I said, we lost a day of volume due to that storm. We're actually providing our first virtual call today, given the storm in the Northeast.

Speaker #4: And so the guide is anchored in 33 to 35 percent because of the dynamic of both weather and the deductible reset, typical seasonal plays.

Speaker #4: I would ask people to look to the 33% for Q1, and then we'll build back up off of that. The good news, bad news of it all in terms of missed appointments from weather is, as I said, in our space, if a family can't get to a physician because of weather impacts, kids are sick, they're not going to skip the appointment.

Kevin Feeley: The good news, bad news of it all, in terms of missed appointments from weather, is, as I said, in our space, if a family can't get to a physician because of weather impacts, the kids are sick, they're not gonna skip the appointment, they're gonna get back. The unfortunate reality that we aim to solve here at GeneDx is it might take a quarter or even two, or sometimes 9 months to get back into a specialist's office. I think the way I'd point you to is 33% is the baseline expectation, and we'll try to beat that number. I'll get a little wonky on you, Bill, but in both 2025 and 2026, Q1 has 61 operating days, Q2 has 63, Q4 has 64, and Q4 has 62 days.

Kevin Feeley: The good news, bad news of it all, in terms of missed appointments from weather, is, as I said, in our space, if a family can't get to a physician because of weather impacts, the kids are sick, they're not gonna skip the appointment, they're gonna get back. The unfortunate reality that we aim to solve here at GeneDx is it might take a quarter or even two, or sometimes 9 months to get back into a specialist's office. I think the way I'd point you to is 33% is the baseline expectation, and we'll try to beat that number. I'll get a little wonky on you, Bill, but in both 2025 and 2026, Q1 has 61 operating days, Q2 has 63, Q4 has 64, and Q4 has 62 days.

Speaker #4: They're going to get back. But the unfortunate reality that we aim to solve here at GeneDx is it might take a quarter, or even two, or sometimes nine months to get back into a specialist's office.

Speaker #4: And so, I think the way I'd point you to is 33% is the baseline expectation, and we'll try to beat that number. I'll get a little wonky on you, Bill, but in both 2025 and 2026, Q1 has 61 operating days.

Speaker #4: Q2 has 63. Q4 has 64. And Q4 is 62 days. And so right off the bat, just calendar-wise, there's one less day in Q1 available, then Q4 sequentially, and then you layer on seasonable deductible impacts and the weather is the way we think about it.

Kevin Feeley: Right off the bat, just calendar-wise, there's one less day in Q1 available than Q4 sequentially, and then you layer on seasonable deductible impacts and, and the weather, is the way we think about it.

Kevin Feeley: Right off the bat, just calendar-wise, there's one less day in Q1 available than Q4 sequentially, and then you layer on seasonable deductible impacts and, and the weather, is the way we think about it.

Speaker #5: Yep, that makes sense. And just to be clear, the 33%—you're talking about that for both volume and revenue—is a good starting point?

Bill Bonello: Yep, that makes sense. Just to be clear, the 33%, you're talking about that for both volume and, and revenue is a good starting point?

Bill Bonello: Yep, that makes sense. Just to be clear, the 33%, you're talking about that for both volume and, and revenue is a good starting point?

Speaker #4: Yes.

Speaker #5: Okay, that's good. And then just one follow-up, if I could. You talked about nearly tripling the commercial footprint. What's sort of the base there?

Kevin Feeley: Yes.

Kevin Feeley: Yes.

Bill Bonello: Okay. That's. Thank you. Good. Then just one follow-up, if I could. You talked about nearly tripling the commercial footprint. What's sort of the base there? Is that from where you were before, the heads that you were talking about in January that you've added or, you know, triple relative to what?

Bill Bonello: Okay. That's. Thank you. Good. Then just one follow-up, if I could. You talked about nearly tripling the commercial footprint. What's sort of the base there? Is that from where you were before, the heads that you were talking about in January that you've added or, you know, triple relative to what?

Speaker #5: Is that from where you were before, the heads that you were talking about in January, that you've added? Or triple relative to what?

Speaker #4: Yeah, just call it the average through 2025. But if you look at the full year of 2025, frankly, we didn't add a lot to the base.

Kevin Feeley: Yeah. Just call it the, the average, through 2025. If you look at the full year of 2025, frankly, we didn't add a lot to the base. You know, some, some reps come and go, but the way I think about it is the full size and scale of the team for the most of 2025 was about 50 sales reps, calling on those outpatient markets of geneticists and pediatric neurologists. Then, a small team, let's call it 10, focused on the NICU in particular. 60 reps was really what we went to bat with for the balance of 2025. We'll be adding about 100 on top of that to start the year.

Kevin Feeley: Yeah. Just call it the, the average, through 2025. If you look at the full year of 2025, frankly, we didn't add a lot to the base. You know, some, some reps come and go, but the way I think about it is the full size and scale of the team for the most of 2025 was about 50 sales reps, calling on those outpatient markets of geneticists and pediatric neurologists. Then, a small team, let's call it 10, focused on the NICU in particular. 60 reps was really what we went to bat with for the balance of 2025. We'll be adding about 100 on top of that to start the year.

Speaker #4: Some reps come and go. But the way I think about it is the full size and scale of the team for most of 2025 was about 50 sales reps.

Speaker #4: Calling on those outpatient markets of geneticists and pediatric neurologists, and then a small team—let's call it 10—focused on the NICU in particular.

Speaker #4: So, 60 reps was really what we went to bat with for the balance of 2025. And we'll be adding about 100 on top of that to start the year here.

Speaker #4: Now, of course, there's a natural ramp. And that ramp has been contemplated in the guide. We added 50 new sales reps to general pediatricians in January.

Bill Bonello: Okay. Thank you.

Bill Bonello: Okay. Thank you.

Kevin Feeley: Of course, there's a natural, there's a natural ramp, and that ramp is being contemplated in the guide. You know, we added 50 new sales reps to general pediatricians in January. We added 10 new prenatal reps in January. We're adding about 10 more reps for the NICU, but it's gonna take a few quarters for those reps to get fully productive.

Kevin Feeley: Of course, there's a natural, there's a natural ramp, and that ramp is being contemplated in the guide. You know, we added 50 new sales reps to general pediatricians in January. We added 10 new prenatal reps in January. We're adding about 10 more reps for the NICU, but it's gonna take a few quarters for those reps to get fully productive.

Speaker #4: We added 10 new prenatal reps in January. We're adding about 10 more reps for the NICU, but it's going to take a few quarters for those reps to get fully productive.

Speaker #5: Yep. Okay. Thank you.

Bill Bonello: Yep. Okay. Thank you.

Bill Bonello: Yep. Okay. Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kyle Mixon with Canaccord Genuity. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kyle Mikson with Canaccord Genuity. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kyle Mikson with Canaccord Genuity. Your line is now open.

Speaker #6: Hey, guys. Thanks for the questions. Congrats, Katherine as well. And I hope you're doing well in this storm in the Northeast. So, just on the guidance, thanks for the Q1 framing, Kevin.

Kyle Mikson: Hey, guys. Thanks for the questions. Congrats, Katherine, as well, and I hope you're doing well with this storm in the Northeast. Just on the guidance, thanks for the Q1 framing, Kevin, but, you know, for the full year, helpful that you had this expansion in future market and the, and the, and the kind of, the current, you know, stable base, assumptions and stuff. As you think about upside and you know, what you're not baking in and things like reimbursement that wasn't exactly called out, how can you just help, like, contextualize that for us in terms of, you know, the excitement levels and what's actually possible to penetrate maybe in these newer areas? Thanks.

Kyle Mikson: Hey, guys. Thanks for the questions. Congrats, Katherine, as well, and I hope you're doing well with this storm in the Northeast. Just on the guidance, thanks for the Q1 framing, Kevin, but, you know, for the full year, helpful that you had this expansion in future market and the, and the, and the kind of, the current, you know, stable base, assumptions and stuff. As you think about upside and you know, what you're not baking in and things like reimbursement that wasn't exactly called out, how can you just help, like, contextualize that for us in terms of, you know, the excitement levels and what's actually possible to penetrate maybe in these newer areas? Thanks.

Speaker #6: But for the full year, it's helpful that you had this expansion and future market, and the kind of the current stable base assumptions and stuff.

Speaker #6: But as you think about upside and what you're not baking in, and things like reimbursement that wasn't exactly called out, could you just help contextualize that for us in terms of the excitement levels and what's actually possible to penetrate, maybe in these newer areas?

Speaker #6: Thanks.

Speaker #4: Yeah, obviously, we've got greater ambitions than what is baked into the guide for the year. I think areas where we've stayed appropriately conservative but offer potential upside— we've consistently said, on general pediatricians, expect 18 to 24 months from guidelines to see volumes ramp.

Kevin Feeley: Yeah, I-- look, obviously, we've got greater ambitions than what is baked into the guide for the year. I think areas where we've stayed appropriately conservative, but offer potential upside, you know, we've consistently said on general pediatricians, expect 18 to 24 months from guidelines to see volumes ramp. All interactions with pediatricians to date, including focus groups, extensive market research, we're out in the field, extremely positive. I, I think we have immense confidence these physicians will order, the acumen and willingness to order will be there. It's also told us we have to deliver the front-end and back-end experience, that they said they would need in order to get comfortable ordering, and we launch that customer experience, later this summer, the end of Q2 into Q3.

Kevin Feeley: Yeah, I-- look, obviously, we've got greater ambitions than what is baked into the guide for the year. I think areas where we've stayed appropriately conservative, but offer potential upside, you know, we've consistently said on general pediatricians, expect 18 to 24 months from guidelines to see volumes ramp. All interactions with pediatricians to date, including focus groups, extensive market research, we're out in the field, extremely positive. I, I think we have immense confidence these physicians will order, the acumen and willingness to order will be there. It's also told us we have to deliver the front-end and back-end experience, that they said they would need in order to get comfortable ordering, and we launch that customer experience, later this summer, the end of Q2 into Q3.

Speaker #4: All interactions with pediatricians to date, including focus groups and extensive market research, were out in the field. Extremely positive. I think we have immense confidence these physicians will order.

Speaker #4: The acumen and willingness to order will be there. But it's also told us we have to deliver the front-end and back-end experience.

Speaker #4: That they said they would need in order to get comfortable ordering, and we launch that customer experience later this summer—the end of Q2 into Q3.

Speaker #4: And so, we built some time for volumes to ramp following that launch. It's conceivable that that takes off immediately after that launch. We're putting in the groundwork and effort now.

Kevin Feeley: We've built some time for volumes to ramp following that launch. You know, it's conceivable that that, that takes off immediately after that launch. We're putting in the groundwork and effort now. Those reps have started. Before we build in any upside to the guide, ahead of what has always been our baseline expectation, we wanna get that experience launched and into the hands of folks more than the focus groups that are building it. I think prenatal is another one. We started with a small team of 10. If you look at the size of the number of MFNs across the country, certainly that team can and will be larger over time. It's a new market. We started with a bit of a pilot team.

Kevin Feeley: We've built some time for volumes to ramp following that launch. You know, it's conceivable that that, that takes off immediately after that launch. We're putting in the groundwork and effort now. Those reps have started. Before we build in any upside to the guide, ahead of what has always been our baseline expectation, we wanna get that experience launched and into the hands of folks more than the focus groups that are building it. I think prenatal is another one. We started with a small team of 10. If you look at the size of the number of MFNs across the country, certainly that team can and will be larger over time. It's a new market. We started with a bit of a pilot team.

Speaker #4: Those reps have started. But before we build in any upside to the guide, ahead of what has always been our baseline expectation, we want to get that experience launched and into the hands of folks—more than the focus groups that are building it.

Speaker #4: I think prenatal is another one. We started with a small team of 10. If you look at the size of the number of MFNs across the country, certainly that team can and will be larger over time.

Speaker #4: But it's a new market. We started with a bit of a pilot team. We'll see how signals pull through in the next couple of months and it may mean we have the ability to add to the sales force there, but we wanted to take a conservative approach and learn the market.

Kevin Feeley: We'll see how signals pull through in the next couple of months, and that may mean it. We have the ability to add to the sales force there, but we wanted to take a conservative approach and learn the market. Those are just 2, but I think there's plenty of areas in terms of volume that we've left out of the guide to be surprised with. Then in terms of reimbursement rates, as I said on the call, we're taking a fairly conservative view on what payment and denial rates will be in those outpatient markets that are new.

Kevin Feeley: We'll see how signals pull through in the next couple of months, and that may mean it. We have the ability to add to the sales force there, but we wanted to take a conservative approach and learn the market. Those are just 2, but I think there's plenty of areas in terms of volume that we've left out of the guide to be surprised with. Then in terms of reimbursement rates, as I said on the call, we're taking a fairly conservative view on what payment and denial rates will be in those outpatient markets that are new.

Speaker #4: Those are just two, but I think there are plenty of areas, in terms of volume, that we've left out of the guide to be surprised with.

Speaker #4: And then, in terms of reimbursement rate, as I said on the call, we're taking a fairly conservative view on what payment and denial rates will be in those outpatient markets that are new.

Speaker #4: There's no reason to see a vastly different reimbursement rate or payment denial rate in those markets. But history has told us that the first time we supply new diagnosis codes or physician types to payers, they often have an inherent reaction to auto-deny those, and you have to prove sustained demand and that the revenue cycle is going to keep coming back via appeal and further evidence.

Kevin Feeley: There's no reason to see a vastly different reimbursement rate or payment denial rate in those markets. History has told us that the first time we supply new diagnosis codes or physician types to payers, they often have a inherent reaction to auto-deny those, and you have to prove sustained demand and that the revenue cycle is gonna keep coming back via appeal and further evidence. So we think we've built in fairly conservative view to reimbursement rates. It's an area where we tend to stay on that side of conservatism, and we'll look for periodic updates throughout the year to see if we can't beat those numbers.

Kevin Feeley: There's no reason to see a vastly different reimbursement rate or payment denial rate in those markets. History has told us that the first time we supply new diagnosis codes or physician types to payers, they often have a inherent reaction to auto-deny those, and you have to prove sustained demand and that the revenue cycle is gonna keep coming back via appeal and further evidence. So we think we've built in fairly conservative view to reimbursement rates. It's an area where we tend to stay on that side of conservatism, and we'll look for periodic updates throughout the year to see if we can't beat those numbers.

Speaker #4: And so we think we've built in a fairly conservative view to the reimbursement rate. It's an area where we tend to stay on that side of conservatism.

Speaker #4: And we'll look for periodic updates throughout the year to see if we can't beat those numbers.

Speaker #7: The only one I would add to that, Kyle, is the NICU setting. We've been, I would say, line of sight on NICU. Just given our experience in 2025, we did just bring on a new Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Linda Gennon, who is a neonatologist who's also been in the business of practice management for the NICU.

Katherine Stueland: The only one I would add to that, Kyle Mikson, is the NICU setting. We've been, you know, I would say, line of sight on NICU. Just given our experience in 2025, we did just bring on a new chief medical officer, Dr. Linda Genen, who is a neonatologist, who's also been in the business of practice management for the NICU. We have new commercial leadership, including a neonatal nurse, leading the strategy and the go-to-market there that's driving more of a protocol approach in the NICU. You know, I think we kept a conservative view on the NICU, but we're keeping an eye on that because I would say, you know, 6 weeks into the year, we're, we're seeing some encouraging signs there.

Katherine Stueland: The only one I would add to that, Kyle Mikson, is the NICU setting. We've been, you know, I would say, line of sight on NICU. Just given our experience in 2025, we did just bring on a new chief medical officer, Dr. Linda Genen, who is a neonatologist, who's also been in the business of practice management for the NICU. We have new commercial leadership, including a neonatal nurse, leading the strategy and the go-to-market there that's driving more of a protocol approach in the NICU. You know, I think we kept a conservative view on the NICU, but we're keeping an eye on that because I would say, you know, 6 weeks into the year, we're, we're seeing some encouraging signs there.

Speaker #7: We have new commercial leadership, including a neonatal nurse leading the strategy and the go-to-market there, that's driving more of a protocol approach in the NICU.

Speaker #7: So, I think we kept a conservative view on the NICU, but we're keeping an eye on that because, I would say, six weeks into the year, we're seeing some encouraging signs there.

Speaker #7: So that's another one we're going to continue to drive forward.

Katherine Stueland: That's another one where we're gonna continue to, to drive forward.

Katherine Stueland: That's another one where we're gonna continue to, to drive forward.

Speaker #6: All right. Perfect. And then just a quick, unrelated follow-up on test performance—something that's been difficult at times recently in our conversation. So, could you maybe talk about a snapshot regarding how performance compares to some of the up-and-coming tests, in your view?

Kyle Mikson: All right. Perfect. Just a quick unrelated follow-up on test performance, something that's been, that's called out recently in our conversation. Could you maybe talk about, like, a snapshot regarding how performance compares to some of the up-and-coming, you know, tests in your view? Could you maintain or accelerate market share if you, you know, don't really invest in or lean into, like, integrating long-read or these other technologies to increase diagnostic yield?

Kyle Mikson: All right. Perfect. Just a quick unrelated follow-up on test performance, something that's been, that's called out recently in our conversation. Could you maybe talk about, like, a snapshot regarding how performance compares to some of the up-and-coming, you know, tests in your view? Could you maintain or accelerate market share if you, you know, don't really invest in or lean into, like, integrating long-read or these other technologies to increase diagnostic yield?

Speaker #6: And could you maintain or accelerate market share if you don’t really invest in or lean into integrating long-read or these other technologies to increase diagnostic yield?

Speaker #7: Yeah. So I think as we look at the strength of our test, we deliver two times the accuracy of any other exome or genome out on the market today.

Katherine Stueland: Yeah. I, I, I think as we look at the strength of our test, we, we deliver 2 times the accuracy of another exome or genome out on the market today, and that is because of Infinity and that reference data that I spoke at length about in the prepared comments. I, I think as competitors start to enter the market, they and their customers will realize exactly how important it is to have the breadth and depth of both the genotypic and phenotypic data for your expert geneticist to be able to tap, to tap into. I would say at a baseline, we're, we're absolutely confident in the importance of the accuracy of our testing. Not to mention the fact that we also have the scale.

Katherine Stueland: Yeah. I, I, I think as we look at the strength of our test, we, we deliver 2 times the accuracy of another exome or genome out on the market today, and that is because of Infinity and that reference data that I spoke at length about in the prepared comments. I, I think as competitors start to enter the market, they and their customers will realize exactly how important it is to have the breadth and depth of both the genotypic and phenotypic data for your expert geneticist to be able to tap, to tap into. I would say at a baseline, we're, we're absolutely confident in the importance of the accuracy of our testing. Not to mention the fact that we also have the scale.

Speaker #7: And that is because of Infinity and that reference data that I spoke at length about in the Prepare comments. Because I think as competitors start to enter the market, they're going to—they and their customers will realize exactly how important it is to have the breadth and depth of both the genotypic and phenotypic data for your expert geneticists to be able to tap into.

Speaker #7: So, I would say at a baseline, we're absolutely confident in the importance of accuracy of our testing. Not to mention the fact that we also have the scale. The turnaround times for other competitors in our space are far longer.

Katherine Stueland: The turnaround times for other competitors in our space are far longer. We have our turnaround times down to about two weeks for an exome and a genome. We're turning these around fast, and that matters to customers. And we're doing it cost effectively, and we have the payer contracts, which, of course, is beneficial for from the customer, from the patient standpoint. We stand in a confident position in terms of our ability to continue to keep the competitive mode extraordinarily strong amidst competitors entering the market, which, again, is not a new phenomenon. There have been dozens of these tests on the market over the past decade plus. We are gonna continue to invest in R&D. Kevin mentioned layering in long-read sequencing.

Katherine Stueland: The turnaround times for other competitors in our space are far longer. We have our turnaround times down to about two weeks for an exome and a genome. We're turning these around fast, and that matters to customers. And we're doing it cost effectively, and we have the payer contracts, which, of course, is beneficial for from the customer, from the patient standpoint. We stand in a confident position in terms of our ability to continue to keep the competitive mode extraordinarily strong amidst competitors entering the market, which, again, is not a new phenomenon. There have been dozens of these tests on the market over the past decade plus. We are gonna continue to invest in R&D. Kevin mentioned layering in long-read sequencing.

Speaker #7: We have our turnaround times down to about two weeks for an exome and a genome. So we're turning these around fast. And that matters to customers.

Speaker #7: And we're doing it cost-effectively, and we have the payer contracts, which of course is beneficial from the customer and from the patient standpoint. So we stand in a confident position in terms of our ability to continue to keep the competitive moat extraordinarily strong.

Speaker #7: Amidst competitors entering the market—which, again, is not a new phenomenon. There have been dozens of these tests on the market over the past decade-plus.

Speaker #7: We are going to continue to invest in R&D, Kevin mentioned. Layering in long-read sequencing, we're also looking at additional technologies for really keeping an eye on how we continue to have the best industry-leading diagnostic test out there.

Katherine Stueland: We're also looking at additional technologies for, you know, really keeping an eye on how do we continue to have the industry-leading diagnostic test out there. If we're able to increase our diagnostic yield because of a new technology, you, you can bet that we're gonna make sure that we, that we're layering that in. I think interestingly, though, as, as we look at how far Infinity actually gets most patients, we, we actually do a pretty darn good job with, with Infinity alone and short-read. But we're seeing some, some encouraging additional diagnostic yield that we can get out of long-read. As new technologies come to bear, you can bet on us that we're gonna have the highest diagnostic yield without a doubt.

Katherine Stueland: We're also looking at additional technologies for, you know, really keeping an eye on how do we continue to have the industry-leading diagnostic test out there. If we're able to increase our diagnostic yield because of a new technology, you, you can bet that we're gonna make sure that we, that we're layering that in. I think interestingly, though, as, as we look at how far Infinity actually gets most patients, we, we actually do a pretty darn good job with, with Infinity alone and short-read. But we're seeing some, some encouraging additional diagnostic yield that we can get out of long-read. As new technologies come to bear, you can bet on us that we're gonna have the highest diagnostic yield without a doubt.

Speaker #7: And if we're able to increase our diagnostic yield because of a new technology, you can bet that we're going to make sure that we're layering that in.

Speaker #7: I think, interestingly, though, as we look at how far Infinity actually gets most patients, we actually do a pretty darn good job with Infinity alone and short read.

Speaker #7: But we're seeing some encouraging additional diagnostic yield that we can get out of long read. So, as new technologies come to bear, you can bet on us that we're going to have the highest diagnostic yield, without a doubt.

Speaker #6: Perfect. Appreciate it, guys.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of David Westenberg with Piper Sandler. Your line is now open.

Kevin Feeley: Perfect. Appreciate it, guys.

Kevin Feeley: Perfect. Appreciate it, guys.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of David Westenberg with Piper Sandler. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of David Westenberg with Piper Sandler. Your line is now open.

Speaker #8: Hi, thanks for the question. And I echo everybody's congratulations on all the work done in rare disease health. I just wanted to talk about general pediatrics.

David Westenberg: Hi. Thanks for the question. I echo everybody's congratulations on all the work done in prenatal, rare disease health. Just wanted to talk about general pediatrics. You've noted an 18 to 24 month adoption curve following the AAP guidelines and deployed a 50-person sales force to target this. What specific indicators, I don't know if that would be like, repeat testing, number of new positions ordering per quarter, utilization of 1-minute workflow. What are you tracking to gauge success in that market that sales force expansion is working? At what point in 2026 or 2027 do you believe this translates into a material inflection in revenue?

David Westenberg: Hi. Thanks for the question. I echo everybody's congratulations on all the work done in prenatal, rare disease health. Just wanted to talk about general pediatrics. You've noted an 18 to 24 month adoption curve following the AAP guidelines and deployed a 50-person sales force to target this. What specific indicators, I don't know if that would be like, repeat testing, number of new positions ordering per quarter, utilization of 1-minute workflow. What are you tracking to gauge success in that market that sales force expansion is working? At what point in 2026 or 2027 do you believe this translates into a material inflection in revenue?

Speaker #8: You've noted an 18- to 24-month adoption curve following the AAPA guidelines and deployed a 50-person Salesforce to target this. What specific indicators—I don't know if that would be repeat testing, number of new positions ordering per quarter, utilization of one-minute workflow—what are you tracking to gauge success in that market that that Salesforce expansion is working?

Speaker #8: At what point in 2026 or 2027 do you believe this translates into a material inflection in revenue?

Speaker #7: Yeah, so you're hitting on all the right key metrics, Dave. So, thank you. We want to see a number of new clinicians, and then we want to see time to ramp.

Katherine Stueland: Yeah. You, you're hitting on all the right key metrics, Dave. So thank you. We wanna see number of new clinicians, and then we wanna see time to ramp. You know, we're tracking, are they gonna do one or two at a time just to kind of get some experience without the one-minute ordering? Then how much faster can we actually see the one-minute ordering start to accelerate utilization? Those are the key metrics. We're obviously gonna be tracking average reimbursement rates. Wanna make sure that we have our revenue cycle management team revved up and continuing to make sure that we're getting paid for those tests.

Katherine Stueland: Yeah. You, you're hitting on all the right key metrics, Dave. So thank you. We wanna see number of new clinicians, and then we wanna see time to ramp. You know, we're tracking, are they gonna do one or two at a time just to kind of get some experience without the one-minute ordering? Then how much faster can we actually see the one-minute ordering start to accelerate utilization? Those are the key metrics. We're obviously gonna be tracking average reimbursement rates. Wanna make sure that we have our revenue cycle management team revved up and continuing to make sure that we're getting paid for those tests.

Speaker #7: So, we're tracking—are they going to do one or two at a time, just to kind of get some experience without the one-minute ordering?

Speaker #7: And then, how much faster can we actually see the one-minute ordering start to accelerate utilization? So those are the key metrics we're obviously going to be tracking: average reimbursement rates, so we want to make sure that we have our revenue cycle management team revved up and continuing to make sure that we're getting paid for those tests.

Speaker #7: Again, in the one-minute ordering, we are building in the opportunity for a parent to be able to upload their child's symptoms—so all the phenotypic information.

Katherine Stueland: Again, in the, the one-minute ordering, we are building in, the, the opportunity for a parent to be able to, upload their child's symptoms, so all the phenotypic information. We think that's gonna be really powerful, also in, the appeals denial, process. Those are the, the main metrics that we're looking for. That Q4 inflection that we're anticipating, where we start to see reps get productive, we have one-minute ordering launched. As I said in the, the prepared comments, the feedback on that one-minute ordering is, is really positive. It was designed by and for pediatricians. You know, we're, we're gonna keep an eye on that sales force and see, you know, we're, we're looking routinely to, to, to figure out exactly when we can continue to add reps.

Katherine Stueland: Again, in the, the one-minute ordering, we are building in, the, the opportunity for a parent to be able to, upload their child's symptoms, so all the phenotypic information. We think that's gonna be really powerful, also in, the appeals denial, process. Those are the, the main metrics that we're looking for. That Q4 inflection that we're anticipating, where we start to see reps get productive, we have one-minute ordering launched. As I said in the, the prepared comments, the feedback on that one-minute ordering is, is really positive. It was designed by and for pediatricians. You know, we're, we're gonna keep an eye on that sales force and see, you know, we're, we're looking routinely to, to, to figure out exactly when we can continue to add reps.

Speaker #7: We think that's going to be really powerful also in the appeals denial process. So those are the main metrics that we're looking for. And that Q4 inflection that we're anticipating, where we start to see reps get productive, we have one-minute ordering launched.

Speaker #7: And as I said in the prepared comments, the feedback on that one-minute ordering is really positive. It was designed by and for pediatricians. We're going to keep an eye on that Salesforce and see—we're looking routinely to figure out exactly when we can continue to add reps.

Speaker #7: We know that 50 is not going to be the right size forever, but it's a great, great size just to get some experience, get some data, and then really start to accelerate as we re-ramp into 2027.

Katherine Stueland: We know that 50 is not gonna be the, the right size forever, but it's a great, great size just to, to get some experience, get some data, and then really start to accelerate as we re-ramp into 2027.

Katherine Stueland: We know that 50 is not gonna be the, the right size forever, but it's a great, great size just to, to get some experience, get some data, and then really start to accelerate as we re-ramp into 2027.

Speaker #8: Perfect, thank you. And just one follow-up here on the NICU and Q4. You mentioned a 5% penetration rate. How do you grow that penetration rate, and what is within your control in terms of growing that?

David Westenberg: Perfect. Thank you. Just one follow-up here on the NICU in Q4. You know, you mentioned a 5% penetration rate. You know, how do you grow on that penetration rate? You know, what, what, what is in within your control in terms of growing that? Then just, again, a reminder of how it went in Q4 and there are opportunities to try to ramp that throughout this year. Thank you very much.

David Westenberg: Perfect. Thank you. Just one follow-up here on the NICU in Q4. You know, you mentioned a 5% penetration rate. You know, how do you grow on that penetration rate? You know, what, what, what is in within your control in terms of growing that? Then just, again, a reminder of how it went in Q4 and there are opportunities to try to ramp that throughout this year. Thank you very much.

Speaker #8: And then just, again, a reminder of how it went in Q4, and there are opportunities to try to ramp that throughout this year. Thank you very much.

Speaker #7: Yeah, yeah. No, thank you. We learned a lot in the NICU, and we are, with our now 10 reps out there, really having them focus on selling directly to the neonatologists.

Katherine Stueland: Yeah. Yeah, no, thank you. We learned a lot in the NICU. We are, with our now 10 reps out there, really having them focus on selling directly to the neonatologists. Dr. Genen is, she's been with us for about 1 month, but already has made an incredible impact. As I mentioned, we have a neonatal nurse who has helped us kind of refocus the go-to-market strategy. You know, we're eager to let that play out for a little bit, but early signs, I would say, are good in terms of this new strategy in place, and we'll keep you posted on what that momentum looks like.

Katherine Stueland: Yeah. Yeah, no, thank you. We learned a lot in the NICU. We are, with our now 10 reps out there, really having them focus on selling directly to the neonatologists. Dr. Genen is, she's been with us for about 1 month, but already has made an incredible impact. As I mentioned, we have a neonatal nurse who has helped us kind of refocus the go-to-market strategy. You know, we're eager to let that play out for a little bit, but early signs, I would say, are good in terms of this new strategy in place, and we'll keep you posted on what that momentum looks like.

Speaker #7: Dr. Gennon—she's been with us for about a month, but already has made an incredible impact. As I mentioned, we have a neonatal nurse who has helped us kind of refocus the go-to-market strategy.

Speaker #7: So we're eager to let that play out for a little bit, but early signs, I would say, are good in terms of this new strategy in place, and we'll keep you posted on what that momentum looks like.

Speaker #8: Thank you.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Dan Brennan with TD Cowen. Your line is now open.

David Westenberg: Thank you.

David Westenberg: Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Dan Brennan with TD Cowen. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Dan Brennan with TD Cowen. Your line is now open.

Speaker #6: Great, thanks. Congrats on the quarter—a good close to the year. Maybe I had one on the growth drivers and one on pricing. Maybe I'll just start with pricing, Kevin.

Dan Brennan: Great, thanks. Congrats on the quarter, good close to the year. Maybe just have one on the growth drivers and one on pricing. Maybe I'll just start with pricing, Kevin. Implied in the guide, right, is flat pricing for exome genomes. Obviously, you're talking about conservatism on some of the new markets, and in your prepared remarks, you talked about continued upside on pricing. I guess the first question is just kind of, you know, where do we see really pricing going? Like, kind of what's the headroom if we look out even beyond 2026? I know you had some comments in the prepared remarks on genomes and exomes. I'm wondering how those influence pricing, and is there anything baked in for Medi-Cal on pricing?

Daniel Brennan: Great, thanks. Congrats on the quarter, good close to the year. Maybe just have one on the growth drivers and one on pricing. Maybe I'll just start with pricing, Kevin. Implied in the guide, right, is flat pricing for exome genomes. Obviously, you're talking about conservatism on some of the new markets, and in your prepared remarks, you talked about continued upside on pricing. I guess the first question is just kind of, you know, where do we see really pricing going? Like, kind of what's the headroom if we look out even beyond 2026? I know you had some comments in the prepared remarks on genomes and exomes. I'm wondering how those influence pricing, and is there anything baked in for Medi-Cal on pricing?

Speaker #6: Implied in the guide, right, is flat pricing of exome genomes, but obviously you're talking about conservatism on some of the new markets. And then, in your prepared remarks, you talked about continued upside on pricing.

Speaker #6: So I guess the first question is just kind of, where do we see pricing really going? Kind of, what's the headroom if we look out even beyond '26?

Speaker #6: And I know you had some comments in the prepared remarks on genomes and exomes. I'm wondering how those influence pricing. And is there anything baked in for Medi-Cal on pricing?

Speaker #8: Yeah, there's nothing baked in yet with respect to Medi-Cal. In fact, although policy went effective November 1, we still don't have a public price, which makes it hard to accrue and forecast.

Kevin Feeley: Yeah, there's nothing baked in yet with respect to Medi-Cal. In fact, although policy went effective 01 November, we still don't have a public price, which makes it hard to accrue and forecast. That's just working through the mechanics of the powers at Medi-Cal. So continue to leave Medi-Cal out of the guide for now, and consistent with what's always been our approach, what we've left out of the guide, of course, is any new Medicaid state coming online as well. A lot of work to influence more Medicaid coverage expansion, but there's just so many factors out of our control. So the guide does effectively assume 0 new Medicaid states this year. Do I think that that's reasonable to expect 0?

Kevin Feeley: Yeah, there's nothing baked in yet with respect to Medi-Cal. In fact, although policy went effective 01 November, we still don't have a public price, which makes it hard to accrue and forecast. That's just working through the mechanics of the powers at Medi-Cal. So continue to leave Medi-Cal out of the guide for now, and consistent with what's always been our approach, what we've left out of the guide, of course, is any new Medicaid state coming online as well. A lot of work to influence more Medicaid coverage expansion, but there's just so many factors out of our control. So the guide does effectively assume 0 new Medicaid states this year. Do I think that that's reasonable to expect 0?

Speaker #8: That's just working through the mechanics of the powers at Medi-Cal. And so continuing to leave Medi-Cal out of the guide for now, and consistent with what's always been our approach.

Speaker #8: What we've left out of the guide, of course, is any new Medicaid state coming online as well. A lot of work to influence more Medicaid coverage expansion, but there are just so many factors out of our control.

Speaker #8: So, the guide does effectively assume zero new Medicaid states this year. Do I think that that's reasonable—to expect zero? I don't. But we'll always leave new Medicaid coverage out until proven otherwise.

Kevin Feeley: I, I don't, we'll, we'll always leave new Medicaid coverage out until proven otherwise. That's one I'd point to. As I said, on the, the new markets, we've taken a, a fairly conservative view. What does that mean? Back in 2023, when we first launched into pediatric neurology, which was the first outpatient call point beyond geneticists, we saw for the first couple quarters, the denial rate elevate up to about 70%, so being paid about 30%. As you know, over the past 2 years, we've now worked that down to the point where we're, we're getting paid, you know, in the high 50s. We've taken that past experience and applied that level of expectation for the first few quarters out of the gate at those new outpatient call points.

Kevin Feeley: I, I don't, we'll, we'll always leave new Medicaid coverage out until proven otherwise. That's one I'd point to. As I said, on the, the new markets, we've taken a, a fairly conservative view. What does that mean? Back in 2023, when we first launched into pediatric neurology, which was the first outpatient call point beyond geneticists, we saw for the first couple quarters, the denial rate elevate up to about 70%, so being paid about 30%. As you know, over the past 2 years, we've now worked that down to the point where we're, we're getting paid, you know, in the high 50s. We've taken that past experience and applied that level of expectation for the first few quarters out of the gate at those new outpatient call points.

Speaker #8: So that's one I'd point to. And then, as I said, on the new markets, we've taken a fairly conservative view. What does that mean?

Speaker #8: Back in 2023, when we first launched into pediatric neurology—which was the first outpatient call point beyond geneticists—we saw, for the first couple of quarters, the denial rate elevate up to about 70%.

Speaker #8: So, being paid about 30%. And, as you know, over the past two years, we've now worked that down to the point where we're getting paid in the high 50s.

Speaker #8: And so we've taken that past experience and applied that level of expectation for the first few quarters out of the gate at those new outpatient call points.

Speaker #8: Now, again, if you look at underlying policy coverage and the markets and diagnosis codes that we're choosing to pull through, there's no reason that we should see that high of a denial rate.

Kevin Feeley: Again, if you look at underlying policy coverage in the markets and diagnosis codes that we're choosing to pull through, there's no reason that we should see that, that high of a denial rate, but want to let history build up. Would be pleased to be surprised otherwise, but we built that level of conservatism into the ARR guide.

Kevin Feeley: Again, if you look at underlying policy coverage in the markets and diagnosis codes that we're choosing to pull through, there's no reason that we should see that, that high of a denial rate, but want to let history build up. Would be pleased to be surprised otherwise, but we built that level of conservatism into the ARR guide.

Speaker #8: But we want to let history build up, and so would be pleased to be surprised otherwise. But we built that level of conservatism into the ARR guide.

Speaker #6: Great. And then maybe just on the 7 to 8 percent contribution from the new growth drivers, could you share a little bit of color between the Prenatal and NICU? Since I'm assuming—excuse me—the Prenatal and, yeah, Prenatal and/or NICU, just any relative contribution you can share with us? Kind of want to inform that.

Dan Brennan: Great. Maybe just on the 7-8% contribution from the new growth drivers, could you share a little bit of color between the pediatric neurology and prenatal, since I'm assuming, excuse me, the pediatric neurology and, yeah, prenatal and or NICU, just any relative contribution you can share with us and kind of want to inform that. Thanks a lot.

Daniel Brennan: Great. Maybe just on the 7-8% contribution from the new growth drivers, could you share a little bit of color between the pediatric neurology and prenatal, since I'm assuming, excuse me, the pediatric neurology and, yeah, prenatal and or NICU, just any relative contribution you can share with us and kind of want to inform that. Thanks a lot.

Speaker #6: Thanks a lot.

Speaker #8: Yeah. If you had to if you had to rank. Order those NICU, is at the top of the pack there. I think as we talked about on this call, we're seeing great early signs to start the year in the NICU in terms of increased utilization rate.

Kevin Feeley: Yeah, if you had to, if you had to rank order those, NICU is at the top of the pack there. I think as, as we talked about on this call, we're seeing great early signs to start the year in the NICU in terms of increased utilization rate. If you look back at 2025, we actually activated more NICU accounts than what was in our original plan. Now, what offset that was we didn't see the, the quick ramp-up that we expected in terms of ordering patterns. If you look at where's that utilization rate gone in the past couple months, I think we've seen great signs to start off the year. We've, like I said, we'll, we'll take a fairly modest approach in terms of modeling at this point until that really takes hold.

Kevin Feeley: Yeah, if you had to, if you had to rank order those, NICU is at the top of the pack there. I think as, as we talked about on this call, we're seeing great early signs to start the year in the NICU in terms of increased utilization rate. If you look back at 2025, we actually activated more NICU accounts than what was in our original plan. Now, what offset that was we didn't see the, the quick ramp-up that we expected in terms of ordering patterns. If you look at where's that utilization rate gone in the past couple months, I think we've seen great signs to start off the year. We've, like I said, we'll, we'll take a fairly modest approach in terms of modeling at this point until that really takes hold.

Speaker #8: And if you look back at 2025, we actually activated more NICU accounts than what was in our original plan. Now, what offset that was we didn't see the quick ramp-up that we expected in terms of ordering patterns.

Speaker #8: But if you look at where that utilization rate has gone in the past couple of months, I think we're seeing great signs to start off the year.

Speaker #8: But we've, like I said, we'll take a fairly modest approach in terms of modeling at this point until that really takes hold. But the NICU does provide significant growth out of that expansion market layer.

Kevin Feeley: The NICU does provide significant growth out of that expansion market layer in 2026. We think we've got all the pieces in place now, including a revamped approach on how to ease implementation burden from hospital systems. After that, prenatal, we've got a team of 10. It's a big opportunity. We'll see how that ramps throughout the year. With a launch in Q1 into that market, really expecting 0 contribution in Q1, very little in Q2, but some early volumes in Q2. Q3, the start of a nice ramp-up. As we talked about pediatricians, we've taken a fairly modest, modest view there.

Kevin Feeley: The NICU does provide significant growth out of that expansion market layer in 2026. We think we've got all the pieces in place now, including a revamped approach on how to ease implementation burden from hospital systems. After that, prenatal, we've got a team of 10. It's a big opportunity. We'll see how that ramps throughout the year. With a launch in Q1 into that market, really expecting 0 contribution in Q1, very little in Q2, but some early volumes in Q2. Q3, the start of a nice ramp-up. As we talked about pediatricians, we've taken a fairly modest, modest view there.

Speaker #8: In 2026, we think we've got all the pieces in place now, including a revamped approach on how to ease implementation burden from hospital systems.

Speaker #8: After that, prenatal, we've got a team of 10. It's a big opportunity. We'll see how that ramps throughout the year. But with a launch in Q1 into that market, we're really expecting zero contribution in Q1 and very little in Q2.

Speaker #8: But some early volumes in Q2, and then Q3, the start of a nice ramp up. And then, as we talked about, pediatricians—we've taken a fairly modest view there.

Speaker #8: But just remember that, in that expansion layer, is the NICU, which will be the bulk of the growth here for that layer in 2026.

Kevin Feeley: Just remember that in that expansion layer is, is the NICU, which, which will be the bulk of the growth here for that layer in 2026.

Kevin Feeley: Just remember that in that expansion layer is, is the NICU, which, which will be the bulk of the growth here for that layer in 2026.

Speaker #6: Great. Thanks a lot, Kevin.

Dan Brennan: Great. Thanks a lot, Kevin.

Daniel Brennan: Great. Thanks a lot, Kevin.

Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tycho Peterson with Jefferies. Your line is now open. Tycho Peterson, your line is open.

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Speaker #9: Hey, can you guys hear me? Kevin, can you—maybe—I appreciate all the color on ASPs. I mean, obviously, in the background here, you've got HR 7118, the Genomic Answers for Children Act, and the Florida Sunshine Genetics Act.

Brandon Couillard: Hey, can you guys hear me?

Tycho Peterson: Hey, can you guys hear me?

Kevin Feeley: Mm-hmm.

Kevin Feeley: Mm-hmm.

Brandon Couillard: Kevin, can you maybe, I appreciate all the color on ASPs. I mean, obviously, in the background here, you've got, you know, H.R. 7118, you know, the Genomic Answers for Children's Health Act in Florida, you know, Sunshine Genetics Act. Can you maybe just talk about, you know, how you are thinking about these opportunities? Obviously, more of a 2027 driver than 2026 driver, you know, if it does go through for H.R. 7118, but how are you kind of handicapping this, over the next, you know, couple years?

Tycho Peterson: Kevin, can you maybe, I appreciate all the color on ASPs. I mean, obviously, in the background here, you've got, you know, H.R. 7118, you know, the Genomic Answers for Children's Health Act in Florida, you know, Sunshine Genetics Act. Can you maybe just talk about, you know, how you are thinking about these opportunities? Obviously, more of a 2027 driver than 2026 driver, you know, if it does go through for H.R. 7118, but how are you kind of handicapping this, over the next, you know, couple years?

Speaker #9: Can you maybe just talk about how you were thinking about these opportunities? Obviously, more of a 2027 driver than 2026 drivers. If it does go through for H.R. 7118.

Speaker #9: But how are you kind of handicapping this over the next couple of years?

Speaker #8: Yeah, clearly, nothing in 2026 in terms of uplift is expected from any national legislation. Look, it's exciting, and we're part of a group of about 30 influencing that bill to make its way through the process.

Kevin Feeley: Yeah, clearly nothing in 2026 in terms of uplift expected from any national legislation. Look, it's exciting, and, and we're part of a group of about 30 influencing that bill to make its way through the process. Now introducing a bill and getting it signed and across the president's desk is 2 very different things. I think what we're seeing is great reception across policymakers, and it, it could be a big deal for us, but obviously something that we wouldn't build into our short-term expectation until we get a much clearer line of sight. I've left anything off of that pending legislation out of the outlook. For now, we'll continue to do that until we get some more, more clarity.

Kevin Feeley: Yeah, clearly nothing in 2026 in terms of uplift expected from any national legislation. Look, it's exciting, and, and we're part of a group of about 30 influencing that bill to make its way through the process. Now introducing a bill and getting it signed and across the president's desk is 2 very different things. I think what we're seeing is great reception across policymakers, and it, it could be a big deal for us, but obviously something that we wouldn't build into our short-term expectation until we get a much clearer line of sight. I've left anything off of that pending legislation out of the outlook. For now, we'll continue to do that until we get some more, more clarity.

Speaker #8: Now, introducing a bill and getting it signed and across the President's desk are two very different things. I think what we're seeing is great reception across policymakers.

Speaker #8: And it could be a big deal for us. But, obviously, it's something that we wouldn't build into our short-term expectations until we get a much clearer line of sight.

Speaker #8: So I have left anything off of that pending legislation out of the outlook for now, and we'll continue to do that until we get some more clarity.

Speaker #8: But overall, I'd say beyond the national stage, there continues to be great progress at statehouses with respect to moving along both biomarker bills and expansion of Medicaid coverage for exome and genome, and we'd expect another great year there.

Kevin Feeley: Overall, I, I'd say beyond the national stage, there continues to be great progress at state houses with respect to moving along both biomarker bills and expansion of Medicaid coverage for exome and genome. We'd expect another, another great year there. We're just gonna leave it out of the, the expectations until they hit. I, I think more and more we're seeing policymakers understand not just that there's an unmet medical need, but it's really the best thing for them to spend their dollars wisely to prevent disease, to diagnose it early. I don't think there's any slowing down of that.

Kevin Feeley: Overall, I, I'd say beyond the national stage, there continues to be great progress at state houses with respect to moving along both biomarker bills and expansion of Medicaid coverage for exome and genome. We'd expect another, another great year there. We're just gonna leave it out of the, the expectations until they hit. I, I think more and more we're seeing policymakers understand not just that there's an unmet medical need, but it's really the best thing for them to spend their dollars wisely to prevent disease, to diagnose it early. I don't think there's any slowing down of that.

Speaker #8: We're just going to leave it out of the expectations until they hit. But I think more and more we're seeing policymakers understand not just that there's an unmet medical need, but it's really the best thing for them to spend their dollars wisely—to prevent disease, to diagnose it early—and I don't think there's any slowing down of that.

Speaker #9: And then, that's helpful, thanks. Catherine, can you maybe touch on pharma? I know you're talking about doubling the business this year. I guess any color on just kind of what sort of contracts these are?

Brandon Couillard: That's helpful. Thanks. Kathryn, can you maybe touch on pharma? I know you're talking about doubling the business this year. You know, I, I guess, any color on just kind of what sort of contracts these are? Does the recent Komodo Health partnership help pull through, you know, incremental demand there, or is that too early? I know you've, you know, hired a bit. You hired Lisa Guerrieri in September. Maybe just talk a little bit about, you know, where you are from scaling up on the pharma side. Is that mostly, you know, patient matching and longitudinal data for FDA submissions, or are you kind of expanding the scope of what you're doing with pharma, too?

Tycho Peterson: That's helpful. Thanks. Kathryn, can you maybe touch on pharma? I know you're talking about doubling the business this year. You know, I, I guess, any color on just kind of what sort of contracts these are? Does the recent Komodo Health partnership help pull through, you know, incremental demand there, or is that too early? I know you've, you know, hired a bit. You hired Lisa Guerrieri in September. Maybe just talk a little bit about, you know, where you are from scaling up on the pharma side. Is that mostly, you know, patient matching and longitudinal data for FDA submissions, or are you kind of expanding the scope of what you're doing with pharma, too?

Speaker #9: Does the recent Komodo Health partnership help pull through incremental demand there, or is that too early? I know you've hired a bit. You hired Lucy Gurry in September.

Speaker #9: So maybe just talk a little bit about where you are from, scaling up on the pharma side. And is that mostly patient matching and longitudinal data for FDA submissions, or are you kind of expanding the scope of what you're doing with pharma too?

Speaker #10: Yeah, thank you for that. So, we're encouraged, I would say, by the types of conversations we're having with pharma companies. I think one of the notable shifts in our go-to-market strategy is focusing on some of the adult-onset conditions, and we feel like in focusing on adult-onset conditions—whether it's sponsored testing or patient matching—that gives us the opportunity to work really strategically with these companies, as we've seen happen in the pediatric side of things, to accelerate adoption of these technologies.

Katherine Stueland: Yeah, thank you for that. We're encouraged, I would say, by the types of conversations we're having with, with pharma companies. I think one of the notable shifts in our go-to-market strategy is focusing on some of the adult onset conditions. We feel like in focusing on adult onset conditions, if it's sponsored testing or patient matching, that gives us the opportunity to work really strategically with these companies, as we've seen happen in the pediatric side of things, to accelerate adoption of these technologies, generate a body of evidence to be able to go to payers. So, I- you know, we're thinking across both pediatric and adult, as well as many of these bespoke. We talked about CHOP and Baby KJ. There are more and more...

Katherine Stueland: Yeah, thank you for that. We're encouraged, I would say, by the types of conversations we're having with, with pharma companies. I think one of the notable shifts in our go-to-market strategy is focusing on some of the adult onset conditions. We feel like in focusing on adult onset conditions, if it's sponsored testing or patient matching, that gives us the opportunity to work really strategically with these companies, as we've seen happen in the pediatric side of things, to accelerate adoption of these technologies, generate a body of evidence to be able to go to payers. So, I- you know, we're thinking across both pediatric and adult, as well as many of these bespoke. We talked about CHOP and Baby KJ. There are more and more...

Speaker #10: Generate a body of evidence to be able to go to payers. And so we're thinking across both pediatric and adult, as well as many of these bespoke.

Speaker #10: We talked about CHOP in baby KJ. There are more and more—there's more and more organizing happening amongst these parents who are becoming biotech CEOs.

Katherine Stueland: There's more and more organizing happening amongst these parents who are becoming biotech CEOs. How do we really work in partnership with them to put our data to work for, for their families and for their businesses? Encouraged by, I think, the, the shift in thinking and the more expansive nature, it is everything from clinical trial matching to sponsor testing, just getting different types of docs using testing. What's also really, I know we've talked about this in the past, Tycho, but it is true across every condition, the more you test, the higher the prevalence is of these diseases. You know, we were sitting with a, a pharma company that was looking for 400 patients.

Katherine Stueland: There's more and more organizing happening amongst these parents who are becoming biotech CEOs. How do we really work in partnership with them to put our data to work for, for their families and for their businesses? Encouraged by, I think, the, the shift in thinking and the more expansive nature, it is everything from clinical trial matching to sponsor testing, just getting different types of docs using testing. What's also really, I know we've talked about this in the past, Tycho, but it is true across every condition, the more you test, the higher the prevalence is of these diseases. You know, we were sitting with a, a pharma company that was looking for 400 patients.

Speaker #10: So, how do we really work in partnership with them to put our data to work for their families and for their businesses? I'm so encouraged by, I think, the shift in thinking and the more expansive nature—it is everything from clinical trial matching to sponsored testing, just getting different types of docs using testing.

Speaker #10: And what's also really— I know we've talked about this in the past, Tycho, but it is true across every condition: the more you test, the higher the prevalences of these diseases.

Speaker #10: And so we were sitting with a pharma company that was looking for 400 patients; we happen to have 2,300 of them in our database.

Katherine Stueland: We happen to have 2,300 of them in our database, and really challenged the understanding of the prior limited prevalence. I think it's gonna change the equation for investors as well. The larger patient populations are gonna make it much more compelling for investors to get involved in these companies. More to come, but we're excited about what we're seeing and the conversations we're having and the opportunity that's ahead.

Katherine Stueland: We happen to have 2,300 of them in our database, and really challenged the understanding of the prior limited prevalence. I think it's gonna change the equation for investors as well. The larger patient populations are gonna make it much more compelling for investors to get involved in these companies. More to come, but we're excited about what we're seeing and the conversations we're having and the opportunity that's ahead.

Speaker #10: And really challenge the understanding of the prior limited prevalence. So I think it's going to change the equation for investors as well. The larger patient populations are going to make it much more compelling for investors to get involved in these companies.

Speaker #10: So, more to come, but we're excited about what we're seeing, the conversations we're having, and the opportunity that's ahead.

Speaker #9: Great. And then maybe just one last one on competition. I mean, we haven't really touched on it on the call, and you've always said competition validates the market size.

Brandon Couillard: Great. Then maybe just one, one last one on, on competition. I mean, we haven't really, you know, touched on it on the call, and you've always said competition validates the market size. It doesn't really threaten your leadership, and, you know, new entrants can help educate payers and governments. Anything you can kind of flag here, is that, you know, how your, your thinking here has evolved? I mean, are you gonna have to counterdetail more? Are you pulling forward any hiring? Just maybe just talk a little bit about the competitive environment, because we're obviously all getting more questions on that, too.

Tycho Peterson: Great. Then maybe just one, one last one on, on competition. I mean, we haven't really, you know, touched on it on the call, and you've always said competition validates the market size. It doesn't really threaten your leadership, and, you know, new entrants can help educate payers and governments. Anything you can kind of flag here, is that, you know, how your, your thinking here has evolved? I mean, are you gonna have to counterdetail more? Are you pulling forward any hiring? Just maybe just talk a little bit about the competitive environment, because we're obviously all getting more questions on that, too.

Speaker #9: It doesn't really threaten your leadership, and new entrants can help educate payers and governments. But anything you can kind of flag here, as far as how your thinking here has evolved.

Speaker #9: I mean, has it—are you going to have to counter-detail more? Are you pulling forward any hiring? Just maybe talk a little bit about the competitive environment, because we're obviously all getting more questions on that too.

Speaker #10: Yeah, yeah. No, and you're right. I think competition is a good thing. I think that more, it validates, as you said. But it also helps put more and different types of pressure on clinicians to start using this testing.

Katherine Stueland: Yeah. Yeah. No, you're right. I think competition is a good thing. I think that more it validates, as you said, but it also helps put more and different types of pressure on clinicians to start using this testing. You know, the sheer size of our sales force, I think our sales team is 6 times the next largest sales team. I think we have more reps in California than one company has for their entire sales team. We've got a massive footprint for rare disease. We are always gonna be looking to pull forward hiring. We talked about some encouraging signs in the NICU. That might be an area where we could pull forward some more hiring.

Katherine Stueland: Yeah. Yeah. No, you're right. I think competition is a good thing. I think that more it validates, as you said, but it also helps put more and different types of pressure on clinicians to start using this testing. You know, the sheer size of our sales force, I think our sales team is 6 times the next largest sales team. I think we have more reps in California than one company has for their entire sales team. We've got a massive footprint for rare disease. We are always gonna be looking to pull forward hiring. We talked about some encouraging signs in the NICU. That might be an area where we could pull forward some more hiring.

Speaker #10: So, the sheer size of our Salesforce—I think our sales team is six times the next largest sales team. I think we have more reps in California than one company has for their entire sales team.

Speaker #10: So we've got a massive footprint for rare disease. We are always going to be looking to pull forward hiring. We talked about some encouraging signs in the NICU.

Speaker #10: That might be an area where we could pull forward some more hiring. We pulled forward hiring into our specialty sales team. So, as a commercial person, I, of course, am always eager to see how do we continue to accelerate our growth.

Katherine Stueland: We pulled forward hiring into our specialty sales team. You know, as a commercial person, I, of course, am always eager to see how do we continue to accelerate our growth. I would say we're seeing positive signs across the board, but even if we were to not hire another person, which I feel confident we'll continue to strengthen that team, we have a monster-sized team compared to the next one out there. You know, I think more education on this is a good thing. There's plenty of wide-open space.

Katherine Stueland: We pulled forward hiring into our specialty sales team. You know, as a commercial person, I, of course, am always eager to see how do we continue to accelerate our growth. I would say we're seeing positive signs across the board, but even if we were to not hire another person, which I feel confident we'll continue to strengthen that team, we have a monster-sized team compared to the next one out there. You know, I think more education on this is a good thing. There's plenty of wide-open space.

Speaker #10: So I would say we're seeing positive signs across the board, but even if we were to not hire another person—which I feel confident we'll continue to strengthen that team—we have a monster-sized team compared to the next one out there.

Speaker #10: And I think more education on this is a good thing. There's plenty of wide-open space. Infinity as the reference data set is going to continue to ensure that JDX is delivering the most accurate information, which is, of course, what's most important to these clinicians and these families.

Katherine Stueland: Infinity, as, as the, the reference data set, is going to continue to ensure that GeneDx is delivering the most accurate information, which is, of course, what's most important to these clinicians and these families, but also the turnaround times. I said we're now at 2 weeks for exome and genome, just being able to do it better, faster, more cost effectively. All of that means we can move faster and keep adding more clinicians along the way.

Katherine Stueland: Infinity, as, as the, the reference data set, is going to continue to ensure that GeneDx is delivering the most accurate information, which is, of course, what's most important to these clinicians and these families, but also the turnaround times. I said we're now at 2 weeks for exome and genome, just being able to do it better, faster, more cost effectively. All of that means we can move faster and keep adding more clinicians along the way.

Speaker #10: But also the turnaround times. I said we're now at two weeks for Exome and Genome, just being able to do it better, faster, more cost-effectively.

Speaker #10: All of that means we can move faster and keep adding more clinicians along the way.

Speaker #9: Great. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Keith Hinton with Freedom Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Brandon Couillard: Great. Thank you.

Tycho Peterson: Great. Thank you.

Kevin Feeley: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Keith Hinton with Freedom Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Keith Hinton with Freedom Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Speaker #11: Great. Thank you. Can you hear me okay?

Keith Hinton: Great, thank you. Can you hear me okay?

Keith Hinton: Great, thank you. Can you hear me okay?

Speaker #10: We can.

Speaker #11: Okay, great. Just one question and then a quick follow-up. Just in terms of the foundational market growth, obviously, as we've talked about, looking for a little bit of an acceleration here.

Katherine Stueland: We can.

Katherine Stueland: We can.

Keith Hinton: Okay, great. Just 1 question, then a quick follow-up. Just in terms of the foundational market growth, obviously, as we've talked about, looking for a little bit of an acceleration here, versus last year. I just wanna clarify, are there any sort of major new indications or disease areas you're launching in 2026 that fall into that foundational bucket, or is this just a natural re-acceleration?

Keith Hinton: Okay, great. Just 1 question, then a quick follow-up. Just in terms of the foundational market growth, obviously, as we've talked about, looking for a little bit of an acceleration here, versus last year. I just wanna clarify, are there any sort of major new indications or disease areas you're launching in 2026 that fall into that foundational bucket, or is this just a natural re-acceleration?

Speaker #11: Versus last year, so I just want to clarify: are there any sort of major new indications or disease areas you're launching in 2026 that fall into that foundational bucket, or is this just a natural re-acceleration?

Speaker #12: No, we've got a multi-year roadmap for expansion of indication targets that we kicked off early 2025. As I said, we went the previous three years really just talking about three of what ultimately is a span of thousands.

Kevin Feeley: No, we've got a multiyear roadmap for expansion of indication targets that we kicked off early 2025. As I said, we went the previous 3 years really just talking about 3 of what ultimately is a span of thousands of rare disease that our technology can diagnose. We've been taking a fairly disciplined approach to only target pulling through volumes where underlying guidelines and reimbursement policy would be secure to get paid. The aperture of that continues to increase, in large part because of our work, but also other evidence provided by many others. Yeah, underpinning those foundational markets is, of course, effort across the commercial engine, but there's a far larger set of diagnosis types or indications that we'll be targeting in those clinician offices.

Kevin Feeley: No, we've got a multiyear roadmap for expansion of indication targets that we kicked off early 2025. As I said, we went the previous 3 years really just talking about 3 of what ultimately is a span of thousands of rare disease that our technology can diagnose. We've been taking a fairly disciplined approach to only target pulling through volumes where underlying guidelines and reimbursement policy would be secure to get paid. The aperture of that continues to increase, in large part because of our work, but also other evidence provided by many others. Yeah, underpinning those foundational markets is, of course, effort across the commercial engine, but there's a far larger set of diagnosis types or indications that we'll be targeting in those clinician offices.

Speaker #12: Of rare disease that our technology can diagnose. We've been taking a fairly disciplined approach to only target pulling through volumes where underlying guidelines and reimbursement policy would be secure to get paid.

Speaker #12: And the aperture of that continues to increase, in large part because of our work, but also other evidence provided by many others. And so yeah, underpinning those foundational markets is, of course, epidurocrust, the commercial engine, but there's a far larger set of diagnosis types or indications that we'll be targeting in those clinician offices.

Speaker #11: Got it. Okay. And then, just on the follow-up, I'm looking at slide 22 of the deck here and looking at the 300,000 annual patients among geneticists, with penetration a little bit above 30%.

Keith Hinton: Got it. Okay, just on the follow-up, I'm looking at slide 22 of the deck here, you know, looking at the 300K, you know, annual patients among geneticists, penetration a little bit above 30%. You know, kind of two ways to look at that. On the positive side, you know, a lot of room for growth. On the negative side, you could say you guys have been at this a long time, it's only at 30%. My question is sort of more geared towards that more bearish look, which is, you know, obviously some portion of those patients may not have a best fit for getting an exome versus a single or multi-gene panel.

Keith Hinton: Got it. Okay, just on the follow-up, I'm looking at slide 22 of the deck here, you know, looking at the 300K, you know, annual patients among geneticists, penetration a little bit above 30%. You know, kind of two ways to look at that. On the positive side, you know, a lot of room for growth. On the negative side, you could say you guys have been at this a long time, it's only at 30%. My question is sort of more geared towards that more bearish look, which is, you know, obviously some portion of those patients may not have a best fit for getting an exome versus a single or multi-gene panel.

Speaker #11: Kind of two ways to look at that. On the positive side, a lot of room for growth. On the negative side, you could say you guys have been at this a long time, and it's only at 30%.

Speaker #11: So my question is sort of more geared towards that more bearish look, which is, obviously, some portion of those patients may not have a best fit for getting a next-gen versus a single or multi-gene panel.

Speaker #11: I'm thinking about a patient that has kind of strong suspicion for a particular rare disease based either on pheno or family history. So, do you have any sort of insight based on your market research into what percent of that 300,000 patients may be, where the best clinical practice would not be a next-gen, but would be to start with something like a single or multi-gene panel, and then flex to a next-gen as needed?

Keith Hinton: I'm thinking about a patient that has kind of strong suspicion for a particular rare disease based either on pheno or, or family history. Do you have any, any sort of insight, based on your market research, into what percent of that 300,000 patients, you know, maybe the, the best clinical practice would not be an exome, would be to, to start with something like a single or multi-gene panel and then flex to an exome if needed?

Keith Hinton: I'm thinking about a patient that has kind of strong suspicion for a particular rare disease based either on pheno or, or family history. Do you have any, any sort of insight, based on your market research, into what percent of that 300,000 patients, you know, maybe the, the best clinical practice would not be an exome, would be to, to start with something like a single or multi-gene panel and then flex to an exome if needed?

Speaker #12: Yeah. Look, I think our position has always been, and remains, that ultimately there will be one test for all hereditary disease diagnosis, and it will be a whole genome.

Kevin Feeley: Yeah, look, I think our position has always been and remains that ultimately there will be one test for all hereditary disease diagnosis, and it will be a whole genome. I think if you look to say, Well, we've activated 8 out of 10 clinical geneticists who've been ordering from GeneDx, and we've held that share for at least the 10 years I've been with the company, I think proves the power of our service offering. You say, Well, why are they only ordering for 30% of their patients? Like I said, we've not been attempting to pull through all volume types, in Q4 and all periods prior, there's volume we've left on the table.

Kevin Feeley: Yeah, look, I think our position has always been and remains that ultimately there will be one test for all hereditary disease diagnosis, and it will be a whole genome. I think if you look to say, Well, we've activated 8 out of 10 clinical geneticists who've been ordering from GeneDx, and we've held that share for at least the 10 years I've been with the company, I think proves the power of our service offering. You say, Well, why are they only ordering for 30% of their patients? Like I said, we've not been attempting to pull through all volume types, in Q4 and all periods prior, there's volume we've left on the table.

Speaker #12: I think if you look to say, 'Well, we've activated 8 out of 10 clinical geneticists who've been ordering from GDX, and we've held that share for at least the 10 years I've been with the company,' I think it proves the power of our service offering.

Speaker #12: You say, "Well, why are they only ordering for 30% of their patients?" Like I said, we've not been attempting to pull through all volume types in the fourth quarter, and all periods prior—there's volume we've left on the table.

Speaker #12: There would be demand out there for offering physicians a far better answer than multi-gene panels. If we were just willing to take all the volume and not get paid for it, we've been taking a fairly disciplined approach to step up those conversion rates over time in a way that's both good for patients and healthy for our business.

Kevin Feeley: There would be demand out there for offering physicians a far better answer than multi-gene panels if we were just willing to take all the volume and not get paid for it. We've been taking a fairly disciplined approach to step up those conversion rates over time in a way that's both good for patients and healthy for our business. I think we're going to continue to do so, but with the emergence of new guidelines, clinical evidence, economic support, there is and will continue to be a tidal wave of support in terms of adding exome and genome into reimbursement policy to replace those, those tests. All in, we still think we're in the very early days of a generational change to replace all multi-gene panels. With exome, and eventually genome, we'll be the one test that outlasts them all.

Kevin Feeley: There would be demand out there for offering physicians a far better answer than multi-gene panels if we were just willing to take all the volume and not get paid for it. We've been taking a fairly disciplined approach to step up those conversion rates over time in a way that's both good for patients and healthy for our business. I think we're going to continue to do so, but with the emergence of new guidelines, clinical evidence, economic support, there is and will continue to be a tidal wave of support in terms of adding exome and genome into reimbursement policy to replace those, those tests. All in, we still think we're in the very early days of a generational change to replace all multi-gene panels. With exome, and eventually genome, we'll be the one test that outlasts them all.

Speaker #12: I think we're going to continue to do so, but with the emergence of new guidelines, clinical evidence, and economic support, there is and will continue to be a tidal wave of support in terms of adding Exome and Genome into reimbursement policy to replace those tests.

Speaker #12: All in, we still think we're in the very early days of a generational change to replace all multi-gene panels—with Exo and, eventually, Genome.

Speaker #12: We'll be the one test that outlasts them all.

Speaker #10: The only thing I would add to that is, by continuing to utilize single-gene or multi-gene panels, we're just contributing to the diagnostic odyssey. So, we've gotten the industrial strength of Exome and Genome to the point where multi-gene panels really should, for the most part, be retired.

Katherine Stueland: The only thing I would add to that is, is by continuing to utilize single gene or multi-gene panels, we're just contributing to the diagnostic odyssey. We've gotten the, the industrial strength of exome and genome to the point where multi-gene panels really should, for the most part, be, be retired. Their use in, in the settings that we're in are just continuing to, to proliferate the, the delayed diagnosis.

Katherine Stueland: The only thing I would add to that is, is by continuing to utilize single gene or multi-gene panels, we're just contributing to the diagnostic odyssey. We've gotten the, the industrial strength of exome and genome to the point where multi-gene panels really should, for the most part, be, be retired. Their use in, in the settings that we're in are just continuing to, to proliferate the, the delayed diagnosis.

Speaker #10: But their use in the settings that we're in are just continuing to proliferate the delayed diagnosis.

Speaker #11: Understood. Thanks so much.

Keith Hinton: Understood. Thanks so much.

Keith Hinton: Understood. Thanks so much.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brandon Couillard with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brandon Couillard with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brandon Couillard with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.

Speaker #13: Hey, thanks for the morning. Thanks for squeezing me in. Kevin, just one for you. Given it sounds like you have front-end loaded the sales rep build for the year, and I think you talked about a double-digit operating margin by the fourth quarter.

Mark Massaro: Hey, thanks. Good morning. Thanks for squeezing me in. Kevin, just one for you. Given it sounds like you have front-end loaded the sales rep build for the year, I think you talked about a double-digit operating margin by the Q4. Should we expect a modest loss in to start the year here on the operating line? Just how we think about OpEx ramp moving through the year? Thanks.

Brandon Couillard: Hey, thanks. Good morning. Thanks for squeezing me in. Kevin, just one for you. Given it sounds like you have front-end loaded the sales rep build for the year, I think you talked about a double-digit operating margin by the Q4. Should we expect a modest loss in to start the year here on the operating line? Just how we think about OpEx ramp moving through the year? Thanks.

Speaker #13: Should we expect a modest loss to start the year here on the operating line? And just how should we think about OPEX ramp moving through the year?

Speaker #13: Thanks.

Speaker #14: Yeah, not a loss, but as we said, expect Q1 to be right near break-even. So it will push the boundary there. But we expect to be able to hold it positive and then build up throughout the year as those reps in particular and some other factors start to earn their keep.

Kevin Feeley: Yeah, not a loss, but as we said, expect Q1 to be right near breakeven. It, it will push the boundary there. We, we expect to be able to hold it positive and then build up throughout the year as those, those reps in particular and some other factors start to earn their keep.

Kevin Feeley: Yeah, not a loss, but as we said, expect Q1 to be right near breakeven. It, it will push the boundary there. We, we expect to be able to hold it positive and then build up throughout the year as those, those reps in particular and some other factors start to earn their keep.

Speaker #13: Great. Thanks.

Mark Massaro: Great. Thanks.

Brandon Couillard: Great. Thanks.

Speaker #2: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mark Massaro with BTIG. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mark Massaro with BTIG. Your line is now open.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mark Massaro with BTIG. Your line is now open.

Speaker #15: Hey, guys. Thank you for taking the questions, and congrats on a strong 2025, and congratulations, Katherine, for the award. I wanted to ask about—I didn't hear a lot about EMRs or Epic Aura.

[Operator 2]: Hey, guys. Thank you for taking the questions, and congrats on a strong 2025, and congratulations, Katherine, for the award. I wanted to ask about, you know, I didn't hear a lot about EMRs or Epic Aura. Can you just speak about your EMR strategy in 2026? Should we expect that to lift, and how do we think about EMRs going into the pediatrician market?

Mark Massaro: Hey, guys. Thank you for taking the questions, and congrats on a strong 2025, and congratulations, Katherine, for the award. I wanted to ask about, you know, I didn't hear a lot about EMRs or Epic Aura. Can you just speak about your EMR strategy in 2026? Should we expect that to lift, and how do we think about EMRs going into the pediatrician market?

Speaker #15: Can you just speak about your EMR strategy in 2026? Should we expect that to lift? And how do we think about EMRs going into the pediatrician market?

Speaker #10: Yeah. Dan, thank you, Mark. I'm glad you're asking this. So last year, we, for better or for worse, I think we tied EMRs very much to the NICU.

Katherine Stueland: Yeah, thank you, Mark. I'm glad you're asking this. Last year, we, you know, for better or for worse, we, I think we tied EMRs very much to the NICU, and we learned a lot. What we learned is that clinicians who have been ordering testing from us, like our portal. That's great. We continue to improve it. They like that workflow. We've spent a lot of time with the team at Epic just to really understand where the opportunities are from their perspective. They obviously see a lot of this business. We really want to focus our Epic strategy on new customers. General pediatricians would be a great example of a new customer where Epic can be helpful.

Katherine Stueland: Yeah, thank you, Mark. I'm glad you're asking this. Last year, we, you know, for better or for worse, we, I think we tied EMRs very much to the NICU, and we learned a lot. What we learned is that clinicians who have been ordering testing from us, like our portal. That's great. We continue to improve it. They like that workflow. We've spent a lot of time with the team at Epic just to really understand where the opportunities are from their perspective. They obviously see a lot of this business. We really want to focus our Epic strategy on new customers. General pediatricians would be a great example of a new customer where Epic can be helpful.

Speaker #10: And we learned a lot. What we learned is that clinicians who have been ordering testing from us like our portal, so that's great. We continue to improve it.

Speaker #10: And so they like that workflow, and so we've spent a lot of time with the team at Epic just to really understand where the opportunities are from their perspective.

Speaker #10: They obviously see a lot of this business, so we really want to focus our Epic strategy on new customers. So, general pediatricians would be a great example of a new customer where Epic can be helpful.

Speaker #10: So, we are thinking about Epic as a driver for both outpatient and inpatient, so really going in with health systems. We've been kind of reprioritizing which health systems we're going into.

Katherine Stueland: We are thinking about Epic as a driver for both outpatient and inpatient. Really going in with health systems, we've been kind of reprioritizing which health systems we're going into. Looking at it less as a current customer unlock and more as a future customer unlock. That has been, I think, a really healthy shift for us and very much in line with what Epic sees as kind of best in class moving forward. More to come on that and how it plays a part in unlocking new customer types.

Katherine Stueland: We are thinking about Epic as a driver for both outpatient and inpatient. Really going in with health systems, we've been kind of reprioritizing which health systems we're going into. Looking at it less as a current customer unlock and more as a future customer unlock. That has been, I think, a really healthy shift for us and very much in line with what Epic sees as kind of best in class moving forward. More to come on that and how it plays a part in unlocking new customer types.

Speaker #10: So, looking at it less as a current customer unlock and more as a future customer unlock. So that has been, I think, a really healthy shift for us.

Speaker #10: And very much in line with what Epic sees as kind of best-in-class moving forward. So, more to come on that and how it plays a part in unlocking new customer types, as we've talked about.

Speaker #10: We're also going to be releasing that one-minute ordering. So I think we can kind of see, in a sense, Epic is one-minute ordering. So we can see what's going to work better for different types of clinicians, so I think we'll be tracking it.

Katherine Stueland: as we've talked about, we're also gonna be releasing that one-minute ordering, so I think we can kinda see, like, in a sense, Epic is one-minute ordering, so we can see what's gonna work, better for different types of clinicians. I think we'll be tracking it. We'll share as we learn. we're, without a doubt, enthusiastic about Epic being able to unlock more volumes, really focused on new customers who haven't had a prior experience with us ordering.

Katherine Stueland: as we've talked about, we're also gonna be releasing that one-minute ordering, so I think we can kinda see, like, in a sense, Epic is one-minute ordering, so we can see what's gonna work, better for different types of clinicians. I think we'll be tracking it. We'll share as we learn. we're, without a doubt, enthusiastic about Epic being able to unlock more volumes, really focused on new customers who haven't had a prior experience with us ordering.

Speaker #10: We'll share as we learn, and we're without a doubt enthusiastic about Epic being able to unlock more volumes really focused on new customers who haven't had a prior experience with us ordering.

Speaker #15: That's really helpful. And then, last question from me: It looks like the NICU is going to likely be the largest source from that 7% to 8% growth from the expansion markets.

[Operator 2]: That's really helpful. Then last question for me. It looks like the NICU is going to likely be the largest source from that 7% to 8% growth from the expansion markets. I understand that you're adding 10 reps into the NICU, and, you know, you've talked about onboarding a neonatal nurse. You've talked about, you know, a lot of lessons learned last year. It seems like this is an important initiative for 2026. Is there anything else you could just speak to that gives you confidence about maybe some of the, you know, encouraging early performance you've seen here in Q1, but how you're thinking about this building throughout the year with respect to the lessons you learned from last year?

Mark Massaro: That's really helpful. Then last question for me. It looks like the NICU is going to likely be the largest source from that 7% to 8% growth from the expansion markets. I understand that you're adding 10 reps into the NICU, and, you know, you've talked about onboarding a neonatal nurse. You've talked about, you know, a lot of lessons learned last year. It seems like this is an important initiative for 2026. Is there anything else you could just speak to that gives you confidence about maybe some of the, you know, encouraging early performance you've seen here in Q1, but how you're thinking about this building throughout the year with respect to the lessons you learned from last year?

Speaker #15: I understand that you're adding 10 reps into the NICU, and you've talked about onboarding a neonatal nurse. You've talked about a lot of lessons learned last year.

Speaker #15: So it seems like this is an important initiative for 2026. Is there anything else you could just speak to that gives you confidence about maybe some of the encouraging early performance you've seen here in Q1?

Speaker #15: But how you're thinking about this building throughout the year, with respect to the lessons you learned from last year.

Speaker #10: Yeah, so we're happy with what we're seeing from an ordering perspective year to date. So, I think that's point one, and that's a great message to be able to deliver.

Katherine Stueland: Yeah. We're happy with what we're seeing from an ordering perspective year-to-date. I think that's point one, and that's a great message to be able to deliver. Much so that we're, you know, we're taking a look at, do we want to add more reps, and at what point in time? The new leadership that we brought on, our Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Genen, she's super eager to be spending time in the field and to start a real peer-to-peer KOL strategy, because her view is neonatologists are gonna listen to other neonatologists. We need to kind of break the pattern of the neonatologist constantly deferring to the geneticist.

Katherine Stueland: Yeah. We're happy with what we're seeing from an ordering perspective year-to-date. I think that's point one, and that's a great message to be able to deliver. Much so that we're, you know, we're taking a look at, do we want to add more reps, and at what point in time? The new leadership that we brought on, our Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Genen, she's super eager to be spending time in the field and to start a real peer-to-peer KOL strategy, because her view is neonatologists are gonna listen to other neonatologists. We need to kind of break the pattern of the neonatologist constantly deferring to the geneticist.

Speaker #10: So much so that we're taking a look at whether we want to add more reps, and at what point in time. The new leadership that we brought on, our Chief Medical Officer, Dr. Gennan, she's super eager to be spending time in the field.

Speaker #10: And to start a real peer-to-peer KOL strategy, because her view is neonatologists are going to listen to other neonatologists. So we need to kind of break the pattern of the neonatologist constantly deferring to the geneticist, and so I think the peer-to-peer work that we are going to be deploying this year, we feel like is going to be powerful.

Katherine Stueland: I think the, the peer-to-peer work that we are going to be deploying this year, we feel like is, is gonna be powerful. She's, she's been making calls already, sharing great feedback on GDX from those who are ordering, and then, you know, just in, in her network, being able to, to already unlock some, some good opportunities for us to go get. With that, and then also with, the, the Seek First protocol as being, a really important tool for us, I think it's really just trying to simplify the, the selling strategy, so we're going right to those neonatologists and activating them more directly versus, having to tackle it in a more systemic way.

Katherine Stueland: I think the, the peer-to-peer work that we are going to be deploying this year, we feel like is, is gonna be powerful. She's, she's been making calls already, sharing great feedback on GDX from those who are ordering, and then, you know, just in, in her network, being able to, to already unlock some, some good opportunities for us to go get. With that, and then also with, the, the Seek First protocol as being, a really important tool for us, I think it's really just trying to simplify the, the selling strategy, so we're going right to those neonatologists and activating them more directly versus, having to tackle it in a more systemic way.

Speaker #10: She's been making calls already, sharing great feedback on GDX from those who are ordering, and then just in her network being able to already unlock some good opportunities for us to go get.

Speaker #10: And so, with that and then also with the Seek First protocol as being a really important tool for us, I think it's really just trying to simplify the selling strategy.

Speaker #10: So we're going right to those neonatologists and activating them more directly, versus having to tackle it in a more systemic way.

Speaker #15: That sounds great. Thanks for all the color, guys.

[Operator 2]: That sounds great. Thanks for all the color, guys.

Mark Massaro: That sounds great. Thanks for all the color, guys.

Speaker #10: Wonderful. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Thank you. And I'm currently showing no further questions at this time. This does conclude today's call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect.

Katherine Stueland: Wonderful. Thank you.

Katherine Stueland: Wonderful. Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. I'm currently showing no further questions at this time. This does conclude today's call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect.

Operator: Thank you. I'm currently showing no further questions at this time. This does conclude today's call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect.

Q4 2025 GeneDx Holdings Earnings Call

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Q4 2025 GeneDx Holdings Earnings Call

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